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00:14 r/relationships - [9] How can I (25F), as a nanny, phrase to my bosses (40s F/M) that I am quitting when I promised them 1 year?
10:40 r/trueoffmychest - I (28F) just found out that the babysitter was breastfeeding my son without my consent
42:24 r/relationship_advice - [40f][64f]What to do when a step grandparent steals your child's present and gives it to their blood grandchild.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:14):
I changed my whole life for him, and now we're done.
It's over. I twenty five female, moved from X state
to Y state, let's say California to Tennessee because my boyfriend,
twenty four male, got a position here. Unfortunately, there were
zero job openings in my field, so I took a
job as a nanny instead. I have been with my
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boyfriend nearly two years. When I got here, I promised
the bosses forties female and male aka the parents, that
I would be able to be their nanny for a year,
But after the year, I wasn't sure. By the way,
this comes from leaving for Florida. And if you want
to submit your own stories, go to the r slash
Okay Storytime Separate it. I'm Sophia, I'm Riley, and I'm
(00:55):
key On, and we're here to give good advice goofily,
but we don't have all the answers. We only know
what we do, so let us know what you'd do
in the comments.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
But Op says first and foremost, I like how Op's
name puts the state, and yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Well that's presumably that's where they want to go.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Oh got it?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Not where they are?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Okay, Okay, that's z state.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah. I have only been with them for five months. Unfortunately,
I am one hundred percent going to leave my boyfriend
and I do not want to stay in this.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Location Tennessee's okay.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
My relative said I could stay with her until I
find a job or housing, and I already have found
and applied to ten plus jobs in my field in
her area. Here's my dilemma. I already know I'm going
to leave. I know I want to give my bosses
a month notice. I also know I'm going to ghost
my s O what Oh, you don't want to get
into it. But basically, he won't let me break up
with him, so I'm just gonna leave while he's at work.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Oh okay.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It doesn't seem like a safe situation. Honestly, the only
thing that has kept me here the last few months
is this job. I have fallen in love with the
kids and enjoy it. Unfortunately, I hate everything else in
my cannot afford me an apartment on my own, and
really I want to pursue an actual career. I just
feel so bad about telling them i'd be with them
a year and then around halfway through say I have
(02:10):
to leave. I have become somewhat friends with the parents
and have even gone out with the mom for a
social event about a month ago. I need help with
the wording right now. I just feel like I'm ultimately
letting them down and pulling the rug from under them.
Both parents work full time and they have four kids,
some of which have autism, ADHD and MS, so definitely
some special needs there. Please can someone help me in
(02:32):
some way, as in I plan to take the mom
aside tomorrow off to work. How can I phrase it?
What should I say?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
I feel scared and embarrassed and guilty and there are
some comments, But what do you think OP should do?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
The truth? Yeah, this person has created relationship with you
outside of the confounds of you working for her m HM,
and she'll understand. She'll probably work with you on getting
out of the situation you're in.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Quicker too, You guys said that, you know you said
that you guys were friends. I feel like, just be
as honest as you can say you know, I didn't.
I never intended to leave early kind of circumstances have changed, though.
I will help you find a like a replacement. All that.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
And if you can't get out and they're like, no,
we won't let you leave, you got to leave for yourself.
Was there a contract you signed? Can you get out
of it?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Comment one. I think being as honest as possible is
the best way you can go. Just tell the mom
how you feel that you're sorry and so worried to disappoint,
but it turns out you're in a bad situation with
yoursso and we'll be moving home or wherever. A month's
notice is very generous if you are in any way
in an unsafe situation with yours, oh, and need to
go sooner than do it. You're saying he won't let
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you break up with him sounds like a red flag.
Your safety and well being our paramount. As a mother
who has had nanni's and babysitters, move on to do
bigger and better things. I was always sad but very
gracious when things like this happened. Good luck and please
take care of your well being above all else. Oh,
he says he isn't physically harmful. I will say that otherwise.
He's very manipulative and perhaps harmful in other ways. But
(04:06):
if I ignore him and spend my free time in
the bedroom, he'll ignore me right back, which is how
my life has been for a while. I have to
force him to spend any time with me, and whenever
I try to talk to him about something, it turns
into an argument.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Dude, why are there so many guys? She's useless? Yeah,
what happened? What happened to America? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
What's that one bald guy's name?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
It's Steve Harvey.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
No, and is it Andrew Tate?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Andrew Tate said, the.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Guy that's bald in your mind?
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Is beautiful?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Anyway, Thank you very much for the advice. It helps
me to hear from someone who has had nanny's in
the past. I think she would appreciate me being fully honest.
She's a very empathetic and genuine person and I like
her a lot, which is pretty much why it's hard
to leave. But I'll try to keep in mind that
she will understand and reply. Says side note, welcome back.
To Florida. Remember that you come first in all this.
(05:01):
When you're ready to leave, give the mom notice, just
sit her down and tell her what you told us.
It's very reasonable. Opie says, thanks. I love how I
tried to keep vague about the locations in the post,
but gave myself away with my username. Oops. Comment two says,
as a parent who had a nanny, is there some
way you can find a substitute nanny for them? Which
is yeah what I was saying. That would make a
(05:23):
world of difference. When our nanny left us on two
weeks notice, it was a real scramble to find alternative childcare.
If you can find a replacement and maybe even do
a gradual transition from you to her, it'll be so
helpful to them. Replies says, how would she go about
doing this in any way that is different from how
you would do it as the parent. She's only been
in the area for five months, since she's not a
career nanny, so it's not like she has contacts. I
(05:46):
thought selection of a nanny was usually more formal than
asking someone inexperience to find you a sub I am
sure she's lovely, but I can't say I take my
new nanny's inexperienced suggestion for a replacement nanny. They don't
even know themselves, knowing my current nanny is going through
some stuff I can't even imagine even asking. Reply says, yes,
this is a little ridiculous. I very much doubt they're
(06:07):
paying her to find, hire and train your replacement money
if she can't even afford an apartment where they live.
Opie says, Unfortunately, I don't know anyone in the area
other than their family and my neighbor who is a
full time nurse. They actually found me and I them
through a well known nanny search site. However, I would
be more than willing to write up the duties and
or train my replacement.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Dude, that would be a world of difference. Yeah, I
feel like.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I mean, I get what those commenters are saying and
saying like what are you going to do? But I
do think it's nice to offer, like say, yeah, I'll
help you with whatever transition you need, but there's an update.
Do you have any thoughts?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Dude? Twelve year olds these days can do really good
at babysitting. Well back in the day they could. I
don't know about these days. They might be iPad kids. Yeah,
but yeah, good luck. I don't know. I think she'll
take it well. My prediction is she's gonna take it well.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I think, so move on.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Yeah, I think it'll be all right, especially if you
explained the situation. Yeah, I don't see any outcome, or
it'd be like no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I don't think she'd be like, you have to stay here.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
You're blinded to us.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I know you're in a bad situation, but you gotta stay. Update.
I did talk to my mom two nights ago. I
waited until her work was over. I work based on
her hours, not the dads, but I also feel more
comfortable talking to her. I took the advice of a
lot of people on the original post and was just
completely honest. I told her that I was moving to Florida,
and that I planned on breaking up with my essoh,
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and that I really wished I could stay for the family,
but that everything outside of work was not enjoyable, which
is all true. Her response was as expected, surprised but understanding.
She did immediately say, well, I know her friend knows
someone who's been looking. I'll ask her. So she went
straight into damaged control mode. She also thanks me for
giving her so much notice. One month, I did tell
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her that I could train or write something up for
the next nanny, which she didn't really respond to. I
think she was still try to figure out who to
ask to be the new nanny, but I did get
it out there. One of my favorite parts was when
I asked her not to mention anything to s O
if she saw him out and about. We live less
than five minutes away, so it's possible. And she just
looked at me and said, why would I ever tell him?
(08:15):
It was great?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Awesome, Okay, good?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Do you have any final thoughts? I think it all
worked out.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah. It was a little shocking coming from the mom
not being like, oh, like, is everything okay? Are you good?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
M m.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
It was just like damage control, get a lookout for herself. Yeah,
which if someone came up to me, I gotta leave town,
it's not Well, maybe OP didn't present it in that way.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, I'm wondering if she just didn't say, like specifically
like I've got to leave my partner because it's bad. Yeah,
we don't know exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
How she said it, but and you know, everything was
in good timing. I think you were meant to leave now.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Mm hmm, I agree.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I think it was a ninety nine percent of op
knew like she's gonna understand, but it's that one percent
that like eats at her. She's like, yeah, I don't
think that one percent. If she says no can ruin everything.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, no, I have a friend news and Nannie and
you know who has like critiques about things. But it's like,
it's so hard because you get attached to the family
and stuff, and you're like, I don't want to I
don't want to leave them in a lurch and stuff.
So you feel guilty. Yeah, to the more negative side,
at least for me. Yesterday after work, I stuck around
and ate dinner with them. Then I had sort of
(09:23):
a mini breakdown. I know it was totally unprofessional and
not okay, but I ended up crying a bit, and
the mom took me to the front porch and calmed
me down. I was crying because I realized I did
not want to go home at all. I was making
up any reason to stay and I told her that
as well, and she actually offered me to stay on
their couch if I felt I needed it. What a
wonderful woman. So overall, even though I acted like an
(09:45):
idiot and definitely will not use them as a job reference.
Ha ha. I would give them an a plus on
being decent human beings and helping me out. And there
are some comments common one. I work at a contact
center where I employ a number of staff. I have
seen my staff members cry snotty tears because a customer
has been crappy to them, or because their home life
is interfering with their work, and I've had to talk
(10:05):
to them about why, and I've discovered they're struggling with
a booze problem, they're just barely managing, or they have
a parent in trouble, or some or other things. No
decent employers should ever expect their staff to be any
less than human. And sometimes things get to us in
environments where we want to keep our heads work life
and home life. Do you interact and have an impact
on each other? So maybe don't beat yourself up too
(10:27):
badly about being unprofessional. And that is the end of
that story. There you go. I think everything is gonna
be okay, and I think get out of that situation,
and I hope, uh Florida's great.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, I lost custody of my son to his babysitter. Wow.
Trigger warning. This story gets progressively more crazy and disturbing,
so skip it if you don't want to be disturbed
right now. I twenty eight female. I'm a single working mom.
I remain pregnant after a breakup and decided to carry
on the pregnancy because I was excited to become a mom.
(11:00):
I got a twelve week unpaid maternity leave, and afterwards,
since I live far away from family and had no help,
I look for a babysitter. By the way, this comes
from Evening Butterfly sixteen and if you want to sping
old stories, go to the r slash okay stories. I'm subreadt,
I'm Riley.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
I'm Sophia, I'm Keon, and we're here.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
To give good advice. Gorufleldy or. We don't have all
the answers. We only know what we do, so let
us know in the comments what you would do, as
op says. I quickly found a fellow mom thirty two
female who agreed to come to my house five days
a week, nine hours a day from eight am to
five pm. She was so nice and bonded with my
baby easily and seems skilled and I felt so calm.
(11:37):
That's amazing, that's.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Kind of I'm wondering what her situation with her kids is. Yeah,
she's a mom, maybe maybe what you know, he's a mom,
but is an older mom and you know her kids
are off.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, and the house already.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
No, she said thirty two, right, yeah, so yeah, it
would be young mom.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Well, mom, I'm with young kids. I mean my mom
at thirty two, at a nine year old, seven year old.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
But still like kids that need to be taken care
of my point, So yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I didn't give many rules, just as for daily summary
and said she wasn't allowed in my bedroom before work.
I left everything we needed on the table and pumped
milk and bottles in the fridge for her to use.
First two months were great, she summarized the day. Everything
was in order and the bottles were used. During my
baby six months, he began refusing my front airbag and
wouldn't latch, though he took the bottle fine. After talking
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with her and reading up, I figured he was getting
used to bottles, or maybe my scent was different. It
was a stressful time, so I let it go since
he was still fed. Until I couldn't pump enough anymore.
I switched to formula, gave her instructions as usual, and
started weaning with some solids. Two months later, around eight months,
something felt off. In two days, I used more formula
(12:49):
than she used in five I asked if she was
using it. She said yes. I thought I might be
mistaken since the baby wasn't fussy, but I set up
a GoPro in the living room an old phone recording
in the kitchen. When I watched the recordings, I was horrified.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Uh oh, he thought, I'm assuming that she's feeding the baby.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
She's breastfeeding the baby front airbag.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, the baby.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
After I left, she sat on the sofa and front
air bag fed my baby.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yep. Yikes, yikes, yiks ya, yikes.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
She's taking place like you could get You could get.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Her arrested for that, presumably, Yeah, not once, but three
times for a long time.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
He had refused my front airbag but latched onto her.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Oh yikes.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
She never went to get formula or solids for him,
only to cook for herself, and she front of her
bag while eating, holding him with one hand under his butt.
She also tried to get him to call her mama.
She sat him on her lap and said mama, say mama,
and who am I mama?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
When he uttered it, she said, that's my good boy.
He kissed him. I felt crazy. This one is razy.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yike, that's a bit. Jail.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Why why jail?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
She's crazy?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, it's crazy. Does she even have kids?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
That's a good question.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
This is her kid, she has kids in her head,
this is her kid.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Oh yeah, I am a mom to your kid.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
To your kid, you're the babysitter.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I confronted her in person and showed the videos. She
said my son needed a real mother, not one available
only two days a week, and she wouldn't give him
formula or frozen milk, only real milk, admitting she had
done it since day one. I won't repeat the rest
because I wasn't polite.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Oh my goodness. Yeah, I'm literally immediately pleased. I'd be like,
I have proof that she did this. I have video
proof of her doing it. I did not give her
consent to do it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Jail, what do you even do?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
You could sue this woman's absolute under.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Good ser I fired her immediately.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah, yes, as you should.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
God, dude, this is crazy. She breastfed my son without
my consent and tried to replace me. I'm horrified and broken.
I took a week off of work to process this
and reconnect with my son. Feel like our family was violated.
Your thoughts would be highly appreciated. Edit. She isn't local.
I live on the countryside without agencies. I posted in
Facebook groups and left my number. She contacted me within
(15:23):
half an hour, asked for a photo and description of
my child, and we realized she lived forty minutes away.
It seemed far, but she agreed. She emitted pouring my
pumped milk down the sink to make it looked used.
I had given her a key for emergencies. I collected
it before firing her and will change the locks. Edit too,
I had my baby checked right away. Nothing seems wrong,
(15:43):
though I'm waiting for more in depth analysis. It looks
like she entered my bedroom. I usually lock it, but
sometimes forget, like the day I set up the cameras.
I found blonde hair on my sheets and in my
private bathroom strain. I think she showered there and used
my towels. I'm missing a bra to where I hope
they turn up in the laundry.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
She literally tried to take your place. Oh, this is
so freaky. She tried to take your place.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
She's trying to become you.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
She's trying to become you.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Oh man, I suspect she took my baby outside multiple times.
I bought broke both a stroller and a baby carrier
while pregnant. I only ever used the stroller. The unopened
carrier was boxed in the guest room. After this, I
found it unwrapped, a bit dirty at the shoulders and
smelling used. She never mentioned it and I never told
her it existed. I also remember a small car seat
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in her car. Even though she said her daughter was
seven and nine hours a day, five days a week,
she could have done anything. Oh yikes, she probably isn't
a mom.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Well she's she could be, because someone in that I
was saying, like if she to breastfeeds, she would have
had to take hormones unless she was she had her
own baby.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, But like the other thing is she was getting on. Ope,
they need a real mom, not just someone there two days.
But what about what about your kids?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Exactly? That's a good, great point. And I do think
she probably would have had to be taking hormones because
how is she away from a baby that needs to
be breast fed for you know, five am to or
what what is it like five to eight pm?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
She might have a milking business something like that.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I don't know what you can.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Have a milking business?
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Where you where you stimulate your your Why do you
know this? Nipples? And then you you who informed your
socks for fifteen minutes a day and then after about
three to six months you can produce them.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I'm talking about how she probably doesn't have a kid,
I know, but I'm saying, you're just adding more.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
You're saying this is how she got Like.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Sure, sure, okay, yep, yeah, all right?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Then what keon? Do you not research on how you
can potentially feed your child in case something happens?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Not me?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Maybe you should.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
I should get baby formula eleven? But not me? Are
you trying to you know what? I love you? Just stop?
All right?
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Then?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
You be you, man, You be you.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I'm consulting a lawyer about pressing charges. My mom is
coming to help and watch my baby when I return
to work. I don't feel safe hiring another babysitter makes sense.
My baby still won't latch and seems uneasy with me.
He lashed once while very sleepy. He takes formula. Fine,
I'll work to reconnect and move past this. Mothers, please
be careful about who watches your children. People say it
(18:18):
isn't my fault, but it feels like it is, so
please be careful. We have comments. Yeah, I mean realize
it early on.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I would say, when you're trying to find people to
watch your kids, like going through obviously you can never
be like one hundred percent certain.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, but going through.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Like babysitting apps where they have to be vetted and
have like reviews, or people that you know, like that's
how I babysat, Like it was either people that I
was recommend, like friends being like, hey, sovia babysits do
you need like I know this person that needs a
babysitter and doing that way or going through an app.
So that's a one way to feel a little bit
more reassured about who you're you know, letting watch your kids.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, but it isn't your fault.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
You didn't know, and the second that you found out,
you know, kicked her out.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Comment Number one. Take time with your baby, but you
shouldn't minimize the situation. You need to contact a doctor
in case she can give him something through the milk. Also,
you should also contact the police. Big Yes, she is
crazy and could do that to others, So press charges now, agreed?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, and definitely Yeah, make sure that like everyone knows
on Facebook, be like this person name blah blah blah
did this to my kid.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, definitely let it out there asap, coming too, I
would call the police. That has to be illegal. Reply,
Hey to be that guy because I'm equally disgusted by
this story and came to the comments hoping a lawyer
had chimed in. But what exactly would the charge be?
Feeding it a hungry child. I hope ope finds something
to charge her with and lands like the hammer of
(19:51):
thor because what the babysitter did was a violation of
trust and of Opie's family, exactly what Opie said. But
I'm at a loss as to what would even be
illegal and moral? Yes if thing evil, yes, but illegal.
This is totally fed up situation, and I hope Opie
gets justice. I just don't see what the legal system
could do. I hope I'm wrong and a lawyer has
(20:12):
chimed in somewhere saying do this, But I don't know, there's.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
No way that that's not illegal. There's no I would
be shocked. I would be shocked if that wasn't illegal.
That's putting a that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Is it illegal to breastfeed someone that's not my child
without the consent of the mother?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I mean just the fact that it involves being partially
like unclothed.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Breast feed a child that's not mine without the consent
of another mother. Okay, Yes, it can be illegal and
is generally discouraged to breastfeed a child discourage the consent
of the mother due to potential health risk and legal ramifications. Yeah,
as the act can be considered authorized touching or a
child in exagerates it's.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Literally it involves being unclothed in front of a child
that is not your child. Obviously that's illegal. I don't
know what that commentary is thinking, Oh, moral, not illegal?
What do you mean it's not illegal? That's so obviously illegal.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
All right, update the last twenty days, a lot has happened.
My baby is okay after an in depth analysis, which
relieves me. But that is only the good news. Just
take a moment.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
That's the only good news. It's just everything else is bad.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, I was just take a moment.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
That's why we started with the bad news first.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah, a sandwich. I prefer good news, bad news, good news, whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
There's more of lead with the less amount. If there's
more good news, lead with the bad news.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Anyway, let's sear the bad news.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I spoke to a lawyer and the police. But in
my country there is no laws against front airbag feeding
someone else's child without consent unless disease is knowingly transmitted.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
That's crazy. How are there no laws against that?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
The disease? How can you make up? One doctor? Can you?
Can you do something? Here's twenty bucks? What can you do?
No law diagnose?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
That's insane.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
It also isn't a harmful act because my baby cannot testify.
What the baby can google? Gaga, Mama, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
If anything, well, here's the scary part because if the
baby does testify in a way, he knows how the
same mama with the babysitter.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah, and she's like see see, and they're like, well,
this child is that woman's mother.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
That's up to the stage.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Mother, Mama, Mama, point to your mother, say mama, when
we show pictures of the babysitter.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Not great not great.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I show the tastes, but they said he willingly accepted
her front airbag. What I feel powerless and I'm still
talking to my lawyer. But the chances are very low.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I'm sorry. Their excuse was, well, he seemed to like it.
He's a baby.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
I you know what country this is, because this is crazy.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
That's crazy. I'm sorry. Hear me up, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
This country cannibalism of like if you feed a chicken chicken,
well the chicken ate the chicken, chicken ate it.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
That's what it sounds like. It's literally a while that
chicken liked it. What's wrong with that?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
It's like in the show Hannibal. If Hannibal's defense when
they were like, you fed a bunch of people human meat,
and he was like, well they liked it.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Would that happen?
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yeah, it's the show Hannibal. The whole show is basically
him like feeding people human meat, but like he's a
really good cook, and they're like, wow, this is delicious.
And so if at the end of the show, I've
actually only seen a couple episodes, but if at the
end of the show he was like, well they liked
my food. So what's the issue here? Oh my god,
that would be crazy.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Okay, sorry, would they make a show about that it's
so dark?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Or being like, you know what? Another thing, if a
teacher groomed like beause someone said this, and if a
teacher groomed a like a student at like in Pretty
Little Liars, that girl is in a relationship with her teacher.
I've also never seen Pretty Little Liars like the student
she has a relationship with her teacher and she's obviously
she's into it. So if their excuse was oh well, no,
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I wanted to be on that, like, no, this excuse
makes no sense. I hate that you have a bad lawyer.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Your country's weird.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Yeah, no offense, All right, let's get back.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I'm so bothered by this. Oh man.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
So if someone kidnaps a baby and the baby's like
chill with it, that's fine too.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
That's on the baby.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah, the baby Willamy's fault.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
That's literally baby went with that person.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Low key.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
I feel like this judge is gonna be like the like, well,
let's just decide who the baby wants to go with.
The Baby's like ah mam to the babysitter, and the
judge is like, well, baby wants to be with that lady,
So sorry, OPI can't have your baby and I guarantee you.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
The court would be like, will you let her babysit?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yes, okay, let's find out what out I need to know.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I spoke to her again to confirm what she did.
She admitted taking my son out often using the carrier
or stroller front air bag, feeding him in public, and
taking him on car trips for errands more than a
dozen times. She said there was nothing wrong with it.
She admitted passing my baby office hers because as it
was simpler when talking to other moms. She confirmed showering
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in my room and resting the baby on my bed,
saying she didn't remember my rule. She claims she borrowed
my bra and underwear and put them in the laundry,
which I never found. When I asked why, she said
my son needed a real caring mother like her, that
a mother who works most of the week is not
enough and I would never be enough. I ended the call.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yikes, she's crazy, du Lulu crazy crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I tried warning other mothers on Facebook, but posts were
removed for defamation and hate speech. My mom is helping
things are getting back to normal, but I feel powerless.
I plan to start therapy when I can. My son
still doesn't seem at ease with me, and he won't
latch on at all. It hurts, but I need to
be strong for him. Thank you for reading my venting.
I hope nothing like this ever happens to any mother.
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We have another update.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Oh man, oh, I need to know.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
This is why we have another update. I remember the title.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Oh oh no, oh ooh.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Uh oh ming Minx is hopefully you recorded that? OPI Yeah,
I hope, so, I really freaking hope. So yeah, Kim
Fine says she's LARPing as you.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Ope, she's gonna change her name to your ni.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, probably probably gonna have like an identity fraud case
going on here.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You yikes, I'm scared.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
I'm scared, op, So you need to get a better lawyer.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
That's the thing, though, it's not it's not the lawyer's fault.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
This is the country's literal like laws. There are no
laws for this.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Oh, she's laws. Where do you live? And why has
this not ever happened before? Where you live?
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Because I hope the main reasons because it's never happened.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Before ah hopefully Update two, I started therapy straight away.
As of now, I'm still attending with the help of antidepressants.
Unfortunately they are the only thing keeping me straight in
the situation. I made a couple of posts a while
ago describing what happened with my former babysitter, and after
two months in therapy, she filed a petition for a
third party child custody rights.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Mind blown when I was notified of such an event
and thought it could never happen. But from a legal standpoint,
she's using the fact that she was my son's babysitter
for seven days a week from eight am to eight
pm for five months before getting unjustly fired and is
filing for extreme neglect on my part.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
That is such a whoa. I'm sorry if you live
in a country where this lady is able to get
your child after this claim.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Move, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
That would be insane.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
You was hired as a baby hired.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
As a babysitter, you were paying her presumably, and then
you fired her because one she went against your rules
of don't go into my bedroom and also was breastfeeding
your baby. I guess your consent.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
This is actually legit wild.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
That is insane weird. That would be insane.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Ever ever, ever, ever heard of a story?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
If your country allows this at.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
What where do you live? This is completely false, but
it's proof. She's using text messages. I wrote to her
at different times after eight pm that was coming back
home in half an hour or so, sometimes even on Saturdays.
This happened five or six times, since I worked overtime
in extreme cases. But since we never signed any contract
or registered slash texted the details, I have no proof
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to demonstrate that this wasn't real. Also, she's using the
fact that she didn't have a regular work contract to
her advantage, showing proof of deposits to her bank account
every month. For me, I feel so stupid because I'm
the one who proposed avoiding cash and using bank transfers
since I usually keep tracked of all my expenses that way.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Wait, why do you feel stupid? That's perfect? Do you
have proof that you were paying her to have a job,
a job that was babysitting for your child.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
She's even using the fact that I'm on antidepressants to
try and prove that I'm an unfit to be the
mother of my child. It's been like five months of this,
and a week ago I went to court for the
last time. I tried to rebuke every claim by proving
my work shifts. But I live on the countryside. It's
hard to prove that it came back home constantly at
five pm.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
It doesn't matter if you came home late. If I'm
sorry the amount, like every literally almost every person that
I've ever babysat for, has come back late at some
time or other. And if I was able to go
to court and say, well, they came back late so
I should be able to parent their children, that would
be insane.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I tried asking my neighbors, but they couldn't testify in
my favorite since they couldn't be one hundred percent sure
what what neighbors are those your neighbors are like.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
M You're like you going to your neighbors and you're like, hey,
my babysitters trying to steal my baby. Can you say something?
And they're like, I don't know, man.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Are you sure that she's on the mother and you're
the baby sitter?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah, we haven't seen you around.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
The tapes were also of no use since, according to her,
we agreed her front airbag feeding him and she was
taking good care of him. Obviously false, But again I
had no proof. In two weeks, the judge will deliberate,
and my situation is looking really, really grim.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
How you must have the worst lawyer in the world.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
That makes no sense. How like if you have no proof, then.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
How she's got no proof?
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Yeah, then how does she have proof of Like she said,
I can do this, I'm sorry if I.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Go to a judge and I say, yeah, I told
I fired it because she was breastfeeding my baby and
I didn't know, and then I got video footage of
her doing it, and then the babysitter goes, no, we
agreed on it. If I'm the judge and I'm not
a complete idiot, I'm going, oh, well, obviously this babysitter
is a liar. What how is this possibly in any world?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Grim for op, this is crazy.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
This is again. I need to know what country.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
This is, because you move out of that country.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
This is insane if this is real.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah, miskidicusses what about the police report that she tried
a vile.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, this feels like a nightmare. My antide presidants are
literally the only thing keeping me on my feet, along
with the support of my therapist and my mother, but
I'm going crazy with social soar or just keeping a
constant eye on my child and rushing in and out
of my house. It's stressing me out like crazy. I
feel like I don't have any chance in that I'm
losing my son forever. I don't even want to write
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this here, but I don't want to stress my mother
or repeat this again and again to my therapist. I
feel like it's all my fault that I should have
taken a part time job instead of keeping a full
time one. I'm sorry this feels incoherent or like I'm rambling,
but I really really need to be listened to in
order to keep my sanity. I can't believe this is real.
Update three, Oh my gosh, where do you live?
Speaker 4 (31:35):
This cannot be a real place.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Where do you live?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Is this actually real? Hannah says, I don't know anymore.
This is crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I don't know. I have nothing to say because I
need to know how this happens.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Update three, he's John og host.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
We don't get back to the stories, but a quick
three minute break of ads from our sponsors.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
A lot of editors in the past six months reached
out to me worried about my situation. Honestly, I don't
even want to give an update because I feel so
ashamed of myself that it's hard not to burst out crying.
The court's decision came through months ago, and it gets
every shred of hope I had. Custody of my song
was granted to my former babysitter.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
What Everyone who was involved in that case should lose
their jobs. They should lose their jobs because how are
you giving taking custody away from a woman who is
literally going to work to provide a house and care
for her child. We have no proof that she has
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provided any unsafe conditions for child, like that she's done
anything unsafe. The only unsafe thing that's happened is the babysitter.
This doesn't make sense. Miss Kittikat says she's a terriblelawyer.
If this is real, Yeah, yeah, she's got it. She
must have had a terrible lawyer if she lost custody
to her babysitter.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Maybe the former babysitter was in on everything, bribed.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Probably, here's my conspiracy theory. Babysitter found out she was
never gonna have kids on her own. Couldn't find a partner,
wasn't able to be pregnant, so to.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Stole a kid and stole kids literally kidnapping.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
And found the way still this child and knew everything
because this is going so easy, and also the fact
that she's proving everything, she's such a villain.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Ming mag says, why would the babysitter have more claim
than the grandmother, who knows any other family member? That
doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah, like, I feel like the baby, the babysitter planned
all this because she knows all the laws and was like, yeah,
I did this and that, Yeah, we agreed on this
on the first day.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
I literally don't. I'm like, I don't believe this. I
can't believe this is real.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Legally, the decision was based on the extensive time my
son spent under her care, me being considered unfit due
to my antidepressant medicsane and the absence of a formal work.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Contract also insane.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
The court perceived her daily involvement in my son's life
as taking on a parental role. They decided that she
was the one providing my son with emotional, physical, and
developmental needs, something they ruled I wasn't doing. Even if
I was working to provide for him. The court said
my working routine amounted to extreme neglect.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
That's a lie. What are you talking about, really quick?
It's not neglect. If OPI is paying for a person
to care.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
For her child, wait for them. She was the one
raising my son and to protect his welfare, she would
continue doing so. I was shattered.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
This doesn't make sense. It's not neglect. If OPI was
literally paying someone to take care of her child so
that she could pay to have her child in a
safe environment and be cared for, she's literally going to
work to support her child.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
This doesn't make any sense. These people are corrupt.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
This is wild. The moment when they handed my son
over to her was beyond agony. She took him in
her arms, she kissed him like he was her world. Moreover,
my son immediately tried to unbutton her blouse to accept
her front airbags, something he never did with me. He
started crying like crazy when he couldn't manage while with
the babysitter looked at him with a loving smirk. I
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think that was the moment I realized that for him,
I wasn't anything. I wasn't his mom wasn't family for him.
The babysitter was his mother. I can't describe what I felt,
other than realizing I worked full time and ultimately lost
my son to another woman. I felt defeated, and as
much as I hate to admit it, I accepted the defeat.
This is insane because no one was fighting for you.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
This can't be true. I don't understand how this would
possibly happen.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
How is this kid gonna grow up and find out.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Yeah, like oh yeah, oh you're my babysitter. You stole
me from my mom.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Well, the thing is, the babysitter's gonna twist him like no,
no, no no. She was a terrible person. She was never
there for you. I'm your mother, what the heck?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Feeling so broken, I went to have a chat with her.
I asked her to please at least let me visit
my son and get updates on him. She accepted, but
with conditions. I cannot touch him or hold him. She
will hold him for the entire visit, and she will
be the one arranging the dates. I accepted out of
pure desperation. I don't know what got into me, but
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after that, I held my tears and asked her why
she was so obsessed with my son that she even
took him away from me legally, She replied. She felt
I was unfit as a mother and that my baby
was so beautiful and needy that he needed a real
mother who could raise him properly. She's just saying that.
That's not really the reason.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I'm also very confused because she took that as a job.
What is her job? How is she supporting this baby
other than the time.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
She doesn't have a job. She doesn't have a job.
She was doing that eight am to eight pm.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
You were getting paid to take care of that baby.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
She legally stole a baby and doesn't even have a
job to support the baby.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
I don't I'm yeah, I'm so confused out this is crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
She said she loves breastfeeding and told me she loved
the sensation when she breastfad.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Well, that sounds really weird and icky.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
It was something she never experienced with her daughter or
with other babies. She said, he just sucked her.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I don't like that. I hate that.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
She says she liked it so much that she had
to become his mother. After that, I felt dizzy and
I'm the venge of passing out. But she continued. She
told me not to worry about him because she will
do an amazing job raising him. She said she would
make him fully dependent on her, just like a good
baby should be with his mother, and she had no
intention of winning him off or stop breastfeeding. And since
he likes my front air bags and milk so much,
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I don't think I'll ever stop. Those exact words still
echo in my head.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
This can't be true. I's gotta be a fake story.
It's gotta because if the mom is saying all this,
or the babiesit are saying all this, I'm recording all
of it and going up judge freak alert.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
That'll care, dude, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
She also said she doesn't trust school, so she would
homeschool him, just like she did with her daughter, and
she walked off, telling me I should leave the mother
roll to the better fitted one. After that, I draw
myself in work to avoid facing reality. I got most
of my social relations because it's hard to explain what happened.
I feel so ashamed, like I did everything wrong. The
only friends I kept along with my mother told me
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I should fight to get my son back, but I'm
so broken mentally that he don't have the strength. I'm
also going to my therapist, but she doesn't seem to help.
I'm relying on the antidepressants more than ever, and on
my work, which at least gives me a reason to
get out of the bed in the morning.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Girl, what just like I need you to finish this story,
I need it to be done.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I visited my son less than ten times in the
four months. My life revolves around working and waiting for
a text from the babysitter so I can see him.
Sometimes she texts, sometimes she doesn't. Sometimes she greets me
while breastfeeding him. It's hard to keep my composure, but
he seems so calm and in love with her, and
that's the only thing keeping me saying. He looks at
her in a way he never looked at me. She
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arranges visits in public spaces like parks or bars.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
She's bringing a baby to a bar and they.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Never last more than twenty minutes. She always brings her daughter,
who clings to her mother and never leaves her side.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Okay, so she second does have a daughter who she
was after that whole talk about you know you need
to be there for your kids. She's supposedly homeschooling this daughter,
but she leaves the daughter alone from eight am to
eight pm.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
I'm saying, there's too many plot holes here.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
There's too many plot holes.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
I don't like this at all.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
I don't think this is real.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Is that her daughter or is that somebody else's kid?
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah, that's either someone's lying, like massively, like she's lying
about she's got a hole. I don't know. This is
sting operation going on, or someone's lying.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
She just buries her face and her mother and never
looks at me like I'm a monster. I hope my
son doesn't become like this. She just the thought drives
me insane. The visits usually consists of me watching whatever
she does with my son. I can't even touch him,
or she calls off the visit. This sometimes even means
watching her nurse him while saying how amazing her baby
is and how great of a mother she is. It
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assures me mentally and physically, but I need to see
my son. One time, when she was leaving, I think
I overheard her daughter asking for her front air bags
when they got back. I really hope I misheard. Just
thinking about how it makes me shiver and cry knowing
my son is with someone like that woman and might
become like that. I would like to try and get
my baby back, but I don't have the mental strength.
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It feels like the legal system betrayed me, and I
don't see myself having a chance. I feel so stupid,
like I lost everything because I was careless. Can we
look up some more stuff for this?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Are all the comments just saying this is fake?
Speaker 4 (40:16):
No? A lot of the comments like, so sorry for
your loss of the baby, but this is from like
the last upbeat was from two years ago, and that's it.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
I literally don't believe this story. And I never say
this about story is I never say they're fake because
I try to give advice regardless of whether or not
I think the story is real. I can't believe this
story is real. I cannot believe it's real. It just
simply can't be real. That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
I tried to look for like any sense of it.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Control f fake.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Yeah, I don't see if anyone.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Says I did on the most recently the last update,
but everyone.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Is just no one is clocking this story. There's just
no way that the legal system would give your child
away to a babysitter.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
It's probably the worst story I've ever read.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
There is okay there there was one comment on the
third update where was like, there's no way this is real. Yeah,
that's it.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
There's one comment is it popular.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Not as popular?
Speaker 3 (41:08):
What the heck?
Speaker 1 (41:09):
How many uphotss have on that.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Update was twenty one. But on the most recent update,
let me start from the like from the very top,
dang man, wow, the very first one, three hundred ninety three.
I mighta check that one.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Let's see ya yai i ay yi wow. That's the
end of that story. Though.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
I really don't have any thoughts on this. That was
a nightmare.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
That was a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
I feel like I'm still asleep and I need to
wake up.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
I feel yeah, I feel like I'm in a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
A very surreal nightmare.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
Yeah, nothing on that most that's a least update seven
up votes twelve.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
This would not happen in the US, No, that would
be insane. Like a babysit are getting rights over any
like other family members is crazy.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
I'm baffled.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
That just made us a zero sense to me.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
If a teacher said, I like I teach these kids
from eight to three pm. And I'm watching this person's
kids more than they're watching.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Their kidding them, not even airbag, but just feeding.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Just feeding them. I deserve to have their kids. That
would be crazy. You can't just take someone's kids. She
was being paid to do a job, and OPI had
proof that she was paying this person.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
I need more evidence. I need to see the court
place I need Please, can we.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Prove this is true?
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Prove it, prove it. I want to see it. I'm
going to the next one ready.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
My father's wife kept stealing my child's gift and giving
it to another.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
This isn't white elephant.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
I forty female, went with my s thirty six male,
and our child, eight female, to visit my father and
family for the holidays. This is no weekend trip. I
drive eleven hundred miles one way every other year or
so to visit my family for the holidays, weddings, funerals,
and sometimes during the summer. This year, the plan was
to spend Christmas with my father sixty six male, his
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wife sixty four female let's call her March, and my
brothers alongside their families. I normally end up at my
older brother's house with his wife and kids because my
daughter loves to spend time with her cousins, which we encourage.
By the way, this comes from Starbight eighty two and
if you want to spend your own stories, go to
the r slash Okay Storytime Separate. I'm Sophia, I'm Riley,
and I'm Keon. So Marge and I have had a
(43:15):
very strange relationship for over two decades. I have tried
to get along with her time after time, always ending
up compromising on my part. She's extremely passive, aggressive, and
will not confront or admit to any wrongdoing by herself
or her children. They are apparently all saints, and my
father's blood relatives are always wrong and need to apologize.
Because of the distance and the fact that we're driving,
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I purchased a majority of our child's presence online and
add them shipped directly to my father's work. He owns
his own business. I was afraid of something happening to
them while sitting on my dad's home doorstep during the day.
People be steelinder in the holidays. I love to give gifts,
not in excess, as we do live very frugal lives
and usually only buy things we need. My child does
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not receive gifts except for her birthday and holidays throughout
the year. A few days prior to our trip, we
were making plans for Christmas Eve, and I mistakenly assumed
that my father and Marge would spend Christmas Eve with us,
considering that we were staying their home for the duration
of our trip. They had already committed to spending it
with my older stepbrother and his family two hours away.
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We accepted this and said, Okay, we'll spend Christmas Eve
with my younger brother and his wife's family. No problem.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Yeah, like you guys usually do. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
We had an extremely wonderful time, and I'm glad that
we went. A few days prior to Christmas Eve, I
opened the shipping box that contained the one special present
that I knew my child would have liked. It was
a niche gift that is only sold online by about
two retailers, both of which do not have a traditional
brick and mortar store fund.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Is it a live view pro Yes, really no, and
you can lie.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
I opened the shipping box to check the gift show
my asso, and I also mistakenly showed Marge.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Uh, oh, guess who's going to have opinions.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
Christmas morning, I had forgotten about this one gift when
it came time to put presents under the tree, and
ran to our room where we were staying to find it.
I checked that room high and low at least twice over,
and myso also checked three times over to no avail.
I showed a picture to my father and he made
the remark that he saw Marge's grandchild wearing it on
her head the day before when they visited my stepbrother's
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family on Christmas Eve. What March tells me she found
it on clearance at a well known store. Yet when
you look on this store's website for anything associated with
the gift in questions genre, there are no results. I
again give her the benefit of the doubt, because we
were leaving the day after Christmas to a neighboring state
where my mother lives. I have a touch of add
and I lose things. But if I spend the time
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to find the lost things, I always find them. The
day after I got to my mother's house, I pulled
everything out of my car, went through every single bag,
every suitcase, and no present. Before I make accusations, I
try to cover my bases and look at all possible situations,
because I need to be sure. The only possible explanation
in my mind is that she stole it.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Does this item have a serial number? Well? I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Yeah, we should.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
You think I'd be against this. We should put serial
numbers on everything.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
I think you ask her where she got it from,
and then you email the people that sell it and say,
do you ever put this in this store?
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Yeah, she didn't mention it, but probably like get more
into it.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
That's weird.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Why would she still that you give it to another kid? Hey,
it's Sean here.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
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Speaker 3 (46:32):
I have contacted my father, my full blood brothers, and
my uncle who is my father's brother. They all shared
stories except my father, about Marge and her shenanigans that
would make the average moral person gasp. She has constantly,
over the years tried to separate my father from his
family and embrace her side. She plans parties and gatherings
and makes excuses as to why she does not invite
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my father's side of the family. This isn't just a
few times. I'm talking over twenty years here, my father
has made them and to my older brother that he
feels as though he's being tracked by her. She consistently
has his phone in her possession, so when I call,
it's hard to not speak to her in some way.
I have tried to save face over the years, but
this is the last straw for me. I've already told
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my father that she has passed away to me and
that she is trying to control his life by pushing
his children away.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Yeah, it's isolation technique.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
I mean, she takes his phone all the time.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Why what's on there?
Speaker 3 (47:25):
He asked me why we always have tension, and I
told him I don't know. I've tried to get along
with her, and this was the icing on the cake.
This woman is everything she could possibly need or want,
and yet is still not happy or satisfied. This woman
is literally spoiled, rotten, and is complete control over my
father who's just trying to make everyone happy. In the process.
My brothers and I have been the ones to bear
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the blame, the shame and have had to back down
to keep her happy. I just can't do it anymore.
I draw the line when you steal from my child, who,
by the way, also has special needs. My intention of
this post is for advice going forward. I just don't
know what to do other than try to stake constant
in my father's life. I love my father and I
worry about his health and her lack of care for him.
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She takes medication and drinks on a daily basis. My
father may never leave her because of his health, and
the divorce would absolutely ruin him financially, medically, and the
aftermath would destroy his mental health. The punter is that
my ESSO works extremely hard to give us a decent life,
and he hasn't had a real vacation for the better
half of a decade. This is by his own choosing.
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Believe me, I have tried to make him take a break.
He does not get along with his brother's or stepfather.
This trip was to try and convince him to move
closer to my family, because I'm close to all of
my family except for my father's wife and her children's families. Yikes.
So you're trying to convince him to move closer to them,
but one of the people that you're moving closer to
is controlling thief.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
Yeah, doesn't help that they've been married for about twenty
years too.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Oh dude, I actually I don't.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Okay, I would confront her way more about that gift
that she stole. I would definitely be may give me
to pay that back.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Mamaete all over. Yeah, I don't see isolation techniques happen
with older people. You should with younger people.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
I feel like I've seen a lot like people my
age not like this.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Yeah, anyone can isolate. Uh. Comment one, You're going to
have to be blunt with her and with your father.
This is unacceptable behavior. She needs to reimburse you for
the item that she took, because it didn't just disappear
over night. Then you'll have to go no contact and
let your father know that you will be there for
him if he ever decides that he wants to be
with his family again. I'm sorry, But if he chooses
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to stay with her, then he condones her behavior. Oh,
he says, I completely agree with you. I just know
that the no contact is exactly what she wants. This
is really where I'm torn. Thank you for your comment.
Comment two says you cut them out of your life.
I'm really sorry for your father's situation, but at the
end of the day, he made a choice and decided
to stick by it. He chose his wife over and
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over again, and yet he doesn't put his foot down
to be like this. He probably understands his role in
the relationship is giving her whatever she needs to keep
tapping that.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Fine young But what it's not the same age.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
The same age, and he allowed it to continue to
this day. So that's the bed he made. You and
your family, however, don't have to partake in this circus.
Go low contact or no contact at all. Meet him
only in restaurants, cafes and whatnot. Don't go to their house.
Don't subject your kids to interact with Marge. Your father
had twenty years to wise up and choose his family
over her. He decided not to. Opie says, we live
(50:31):
out of state, so my child already has limited contact
with them. I have warned my brother and his father
about the contact that my niece and nephew have with them.
Common Three says, Drive to your Stepro's house, show him
your virtual receipt and take the gift back. Embarrass her
for stealing. Opie says, what's funny is that my step
ro is a cop oh and today he confronted her
about it. She gaspled him, and now there's a storm bruin.
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Common Force says, Marge is not the problem. It's easier
to say she's the problem, but she's not. If I
drive a burning car on your driveway, do you blame
the fire or the person who put it in your driveway.
It might be hard for your father to leave now,
but can you honestly say he has had no opportunity
for twenty years?
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (51:10):
Just because your father wants you to assimilate to his
choices doesn't change the fact that he has made his choice,
and he chose March six thousand plus days of him
waking up and staying married to a woman who hates
his children. Have you ever wondered how Cinderella's dad left
her with the evil step mom. Your dad is the
template on which the story was written. If you really
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really feel like he deserves more of your patients than
arranged to see him without her there, take him to dinner.
If he can't be alone with you without her there.
It's just another choice he's making. Yeah, but there is
another update this any final thoughts.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
It's crazy. This is heartbreaking to see that the dad
you know again wants to stay with the mother kind
of passed on from his kids. It's really sad to see.
It's tough, really tough.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
To see he has to stay with his wife, stepwife,
with stepwife, with her stepmom.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
I guess, off, yes, my gosh, we'll stay with his wife. Yeah,
but you got other family, it seems like, and make
the most of it while you can through this tough season.
Speaker 3 (52:08):
Mm hmm. I think that, like if all of you
kind of unite, all of the other family members unite
and are like, Okay, we're going to limit contact with
his mom or you know, set some boundaries with her
and get on the same page about it. Not even
necessarily of same page on like how much contact you're
you gonna have with her, but just the same page
about who she is. Uh, and limit contact with your
dad till he realizes that he can't have a relationship
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with you. Well the mom is there or the wife
is there.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Yikes, yikes.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
But there is an update. After giving it a little
time and attempting to stay constant in my father's life,
I have received a phone call from him today. Okay,
small talk went good until I asked if he had
spoken to March. She has expected would not admit to
any wrongdoing, and he frankly didn't want to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
Uh oh, So.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
Unfortunately I told him I was going no contact with
both of them. I also told him he lost a
daughter and a granddaughter, to which I was and still
heartbroken about. Thank you for all your advice. I deeply
appreciate it. Some I didn't want to hear or realize,
but it helped me to make this decision, and I
hope in the future will allow me to have less
stress when I visit my hometown. I have informed all
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of my family members about this, and every single one
is being supportive in my decision. She has one child
out of three left to drive away. I hope it
doesn't come down to that, but I have a feeling
at will.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
When one falls other will too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
I think that was the right decision. Oh Pee, yep,
your dad just can't see what he's doing and he
needs to, you know, have consequences so that he changes
his behavior. But that is the end of that story, folks,
and the end of this episode. So if you love us,
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I changed my whole life for him, and now we're done.
It's over. I twenty five female, moved from X state
to Y state, let's say California to Tennessee because my boyfriend,
twenty four male, got a position here. Unfortunately, there were
zero job openings in my field, so I took a
job as a nanny instead. I have been with my
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boyfriend nearly two years. When I got here, I promised
the bosses forties female and male aka the parents, that
I would be able to be their nanny for a year,
But after the year, I wasn't sure. By the way,
this comes from leaving for Florida. And if you want
to submit your own stories, go to the r slash
Okay Storytime Separate it. I'm Sophia, I'm Riley, and I'm
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key On, and we're here to give good advice goofily,
but we don't have all the answers. We only know
what we do, so let us know what you'd do
in the comments.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
But Op says first and foremost, I like how Op's
name puts the state, and yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Well that's presumably that's where they want to go.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Oh got it?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Not where they are?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Okay, Okay, that's z state.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah. I have only been with them for five months. Unfortunately,
I am one hundred percent going to leave my boyfriend
and I do not want to stay in this.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Location Tennessee's okay.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
My relative said I could stay with her until I
find a job or housing, and I already have found
and applied to ten plus jobs in my field in
her area. Here's my dilemma. I already know I'm going
to leave. I know I want to give my bosses
a month notice. I also know I'm going to ghost
my s O what Oh, you don't want to get
into it. But basically, he won't let me break up
with him, so I'm just gonna leave while he's at work.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Oh okay.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It doesn't seem like a safe situation. Honestly, the only
thing that has kept me here the last few months
is this job. I have fallen in love with the
kids and enjoy it. Unfortunately, I hate everything else in
my cannot afford me an apartment on my own, and
really I want to pursue an actual career. I just
feel so bad about telling them i'd be with them
a year and then around halfway through say I have
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to leave. I have become somewhat friends with the parents
and have even gone out with the mom for a
social event about a month ago. I need help with
the wording right now. I just feel like I'm ultimately
letting them down and pulling the rug from under them.
Both parents work full time and they have four kids,
some of which have autism, ADHD and MS, so definitely
some special needs there. Please can someone help me in
(02:32):
some way, as in I plan to take the mom
aside tomorrow off to work. How can I phrase it?
What should I say?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
I feel scared and embarrassed and guilty and there are
some comments, But what do you think OP should do?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
The truth? Yeah, this person has created relationship with you
outside of the confounds of you working for her m HM,
and she'll understand. She'll probably work with you on getting
out of the situation you're in.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Quicker too, You guys said that, you know you said
that you guys were friends. I feel like, just be
as honest as you can say you know, I didn't.
I never intended to leave early kind of circumstances have changed, though.
I will help you find a like a replacement. All that.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
And if you can't get out and they're like, no,
we won't let you leave, you got to leave for yourself.
Was there a contract you signed? Can you get out
of it?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Comment one. I think being as honest as possible is
the best way you can go. Just tell the mom
how you feel that you're sorry and so worried to disappoint,
but it turns out you're in a bad situation with
yoursso and we'll be moving home or wherever. A month's
notice is very generous if you are in any way
in an unsafe situation with yours, oh, and need to
go sooner than do it. You're saying he won't let
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you break up with him sounds like a red flag.
Your safety and well being our paramount. As a mother
who has had nanni's and babysitters, move on to do
bigger and better things. I was always sad but very
gracious when things like this happened. Good luck and please
take care of your well being above all else. Oh,
he says he isn't physically harmful. I will say that otherwise.
He's very manipulative and perhaps harmful in other ways. But
(04:06):
if I ignore him and spend my free time in
the bedroom, he'll ignore me right back, which is how
my life has been for a while. I have to
force him to spend any time with me, and whenever
I try to talk to him about something, it turns
into an argument.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Dude, why are there so many guys? She's useless? Yeah,
what happened? What happened to America? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
What's that one bald guy's name?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
It's Steve Harvey.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
No, and is it Andrew Tate?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Andrew Tate said, the.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Guy that's bald in your mind?
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Is beautiful?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Anyway, Thank you very much for the advice. It helps
me to hear from someone who has had nanny's in
the past. I think she would appreciate me being fully honest.
She's a very empathetic and genuine person and I like
her a lot, which is pretty much why it's hard
to leave. But I'll try to keep in mind that
she will understand and reply. Says side note, welcome back.
To Florida. Remember that you come first in all this.
(05:01):
When you're ready to leave, give the mom notice, just
sit her down and tell her what you told us.
It's very reasonable. Opie says, thanks. I love how I
tried to keep vague about the locations in the post,
but gave myself away with my username. Oops. Comment two says,
as a parent who had a nanny, is there some
way you can find a substitute nanny for them? Which
is yeah what I was saying. That would make a
(05:23):
world of difference. When our nanny left us on two
weeks notice, it was a real scramble to find alternative childcare.
If you can find a replacement and maybe even do
a gradual transition from you to her, it'll be so
helpful to them. Replies says, how would she go about
doing this in any way that is different from how
you would do it as the parent. She's only been
in the area for five months, since she's not a
career nanny, so it's not like she has contacts. I
(05:46):
thought selection of a nanny was usually more formal than
asking someone inexperience to find you a sub I am
sure she's lovely, but I can't say I take my
new nanny's inexperienced suggestion for a replacement nanny. They don't
even know themselves, knowing my current nanny is going through
some stuff I can't even imagine even asking. Reply says, yes,
this is a little ridiculous. I very much doubt they're
(06:07):
paying her to find, hire and train your replacement money
if she can't even afford an apartment where they live.
Opie says, Unfortunately, I don't know anyone in the area
other than their family and my neighbor who is a
full time nurse. They actually found me and I them
through a well known nanny search site. However, I would
be more than willing to write up the duties and
or train my replacement.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Dude, that would be a world of difference. Yeah, I
feel like.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I mean, I get what those commenters are saying and
saying like what are you going to do? But I
do think it's nice to offer, like say, yeah, I'll
help you with whatever transition you need, but there's an update.
Do you have any thoughts?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Dude? Twelve year olds these days can do really good
at babysitting. Well back in the day they could. I
don't know about these days. They might be iPad kids. Yeah,
but yeah, good luck. I don't know. I think she'll
take it well. My prediction is she's gonna take it well.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I think, so move on.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Yeah, I think it'll be all right, especially if you
explained the situation. Yeah, I don't see any outcome, or
it'd be like no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I don't think she'd be like, you have to stay here.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
You're blinded to us.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I know you're in a bad situation, but you gotta stay. Update.
I did talk to my mom two nights ago. I
waited until her work was over. I work based on
her hours, not the dads, but I also feel more
comfortable talking to her. I took the advice of a
lot of people on the original post and was just
completely honest. I told her that I was moving to Florida,
and that I planned on breaking up with my essoh,
(07:34):
and that I really wished I could stay for the family,
but that everything outside of work was not enjoyable, which
is all true. Her response was as expected, surprised but understanding.
She did immediately say, well, I know her friend knows
someone who's been looking. I'll ask her. So she went
straight into damaged control mode. She also thanks me for
giving her so much notice. One month, I did tell
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her that I could train or write something up for
the next nanny, which she didn't really respond to. I
think she was still try to figure out who to
ask to be the new nanny, but I did get
it out there. One of my favorite parts was when
I asked her not to mention anything to s O
if she saw him out and about. We live less
than five minutes away, so it's possible. And she just
looked at me and said, why would I ever tell him?
(08:15):
It was great?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Awesome, Okay, good?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Do you have any final thoughts? I think it all
worked out.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah. It was a little shocking coming from the mom
not being like, oh, like, is everything okay? Are you good?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
M m.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
It was just like damage control, get a lookout for herself. Yeah,
which if someone came up to me, I gotta leave town,
it's not Well, maybe OP didn't present it in that way.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, I'm wondering if she just didn't say, like specifically
like I've got to leave my partner because it's bad. Yeah,
we don't know exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
How she said it, but and you know, everything was
in good timing. I think you were meant to leave now.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Mm hmm, I agree.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I think it was a ninety nine percent of op
knew like she's gonna understand, but it's that one percent
that like eats at her. She's like, yeah, I don't
think that one percent. If she says no can ruin everything.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, no, I have a friend news and Nannie and
you know who has like critiques about things. But it's like,
it's so hard because you get attached to the family
and stuff, and you're like, I don't want to I
don't want to leave them in a lurch and stuff.
So you feel guilty. Yeah, to the more negative side,
at least for me. Yesterday after work, I stuck around
and ate dinner with them. Then I had sort of
(09:23):
a mini breakdown. I know it was totally unprofessional and
not okay, but I ended up crying a bit, and
the mom took me to the front porch and calmed
me down. I was crying because I realized I did
not want to go home at all. I was making
up any reason to stay and I told her that
as well, and she actually offered me to stay on
their couch if I felt I needed it. What a
wonderful woman. So overall, even though I acted like an
(09:45):
idiot and definitely will not use them as a job reference.
Ha ha. I would give them an a plus on
being decent human beings and helping me out. And there
are some comments common one. I work at a contact
center where I employ a number of staff. I have
seen my staff members cry snotty tears because a customer
has been crappy to them, or because their home life
is interfering with their work, and I've had to talk
(10:05):
to them about why, and I've discovered they're struggling with
a booze problem, they're just barely managing, or they have
a parent in trouble, or some or other things. No
decent employers should ever expect their staff to be any
less than human. And sometimes things get to us in
environments where we want to keep our heads work life
and home life. Do you interact and have an impact
on each other? So maybe don't beat yourself up too
(10:27):
badly about being unprofessional. And that is the end of
that story. There you go. I think everything is gonna
be okay, and I think get out of that situation,
and I hope, uh Florida's great.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, I lost custody of my son to his babysitter. Wow.
Trigger warning. This story gets progressively more crazy and disturbing,
so skip it if you don't want to be disturbed
right now. I twenty eight female. I'm a single working mom.
I remain pregnant after a breakup and decided to carry
on the pregnancy because I was excited to become a mom.
(11:00):
I got a twelve week unpaid maternity leave, and afterwards,
since I live far away from family and had no help,
I look for a babysitter. By the way, this comes
from Evening Butterfly sixteen and if you want to sping
old stories, go to the r slash okay stories. I'm subreadt,
I'm Riley.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
I'm Sophia, I'm Keon, and we're here.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
To give good advice. Gorufleldy or. We don't have all
the answers. We only know what we do, so let
us know in the comments what you would do, as
op says. I quickly found a fellow mom thirty two
female who agreed to come to my house five days
a week, nine hours a day from eight am to
five pm. She was so nice and bonded with my
baby easily and seems skilled and I felt so calm.
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That's amazing, that's.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Kind of I'm wondering what her situation with her kids is. Yeah,
she's a mom, maybe maybe what you know, he's a mom,
but is an older mom and you know her kids
are off.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, and the house already.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
No, she said thirty two, right, yeah, so yeah, it
would be young mom.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Well, mom, I'm with young kids. I mean my mom
at thirty two, at a nine year old, seven year old.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
But still like kids that need to be taken care
of my point, So yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I didn't give many rules, just as for daily summary
and said she wasn't allowed in my bedroom before work.
I left everything we needed on the table and pumped
milk and bottles in the fridge for her to use.
First two months were great, she summarized the day. Everything
was in order and the bottles were used. During my
baby six months, he began refusing my front airbag and
wouldn't latch, though he took the bottle fine. After talking
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with her and reading up, I figured he was getting
used to bottles, or maybe my scent was different. It
was a stressful time, so I let it go since
he was still fed. Until I couldn't pump enough anymore.
I switched to formula, gave her instructions as usual, and
started weaning with some solids. Two months later, around eight months,
something felt off. In two days, I used more formula
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than she used in five I asked if she was
using it. She said yes. I thought I might be
mistaken since the baby wasn't fussy, but I set up
a GoPro in the living room an old phone recording
in the kitchen. When I watched the recordings, I was horrified.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Uh oh, he thought, I'm assuming that she's feeding the baby.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
She's breastfeeding the baby front airbag.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, the baby.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
After I left, she sat on the sofa and front
air bag fed my baby.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yep. Yikes, yikes, yiks ya, yikes.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
She's taking place like you could get You could get.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Her arrested for that, presumably, Yeah, not once, but three
times for a long time.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
He had refused my front airbag but latched onto her.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Oh yikes.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
She never went to get formula or solids for him,
only to cook for herself, and she front of her
bag while eating, holding him with one hand under his butt.
She also tried to get him to call her mama.
She sat him on her lap and said mama, say mama,
and who am I mama?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
When he uttered it, she said, that's my good boy.
He kissed him. I felt crazy. This one is razy.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yike, that's a bit. Jail.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Why why jail?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
She's crazy?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, it's crazy. Does she even have kids?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
That's a good question.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
This is her kid, she has kids in her head,
this is her kid.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Oh yeah, I am a mom to your kid.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
To your kid, you're the babysitter.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I confronted her in person and showed the videos. She
said my son needed a real mother, not one available
only two days a week, and she wouldn't give him
formula or frozen milk, only real milk, admitting she had
done it since day one. I won't repeat the rest
because I wasn't polite.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Oh my goodness. Yeah, I'm literally immediately pleased. I'd be like,
I have proof that she did this. I have video
proof of her doing it. I did not give her
consent to do it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Jail, what do you even do?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
You could sue this woman's absolute under.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Good ser I fired her immediately.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah, yes, as you should.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
God, dude, this is crazy. She breastfed my son without
my consent and tried to replace me. I'm horrified and broken.
I took a week off of work to process this
and reconnect with my son. Feel like our family was violated.
Your thoughts would be highly appreciated. Edit. She isn't local.
I live on the countryside without agencies. I posted in
Facebook groups and left my number. She contacted me within
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half an hour, asked for a photo and description of
my child, and we realized she lived forty minutes away.
It seemed far, but she agreed. She emitted pouring my
pumped milk down the sink to make it looked used.
I had given her a key for emergencies. I collected
it before firing her and will change the locks. Edit too,
I had my baby checked right away. Nothing seems wrong,
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though I'm waiting for more in depth analysis. It looks
like she entered my bedroom. I usually lock it, but
sometimes forget, like the day I set up the cameras.
I found blonde hair on my sheets and in my
private bathroom strain. I think she showered there and used
my towels. I'm missing a bra to where I hope
they turn up in the laundry.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
She literally tried to take your place. Oh, this is
so freaky. She tried to take your place.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
She's trying to become you.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
She's trying to become you.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Oh man, I suspect she took my baby outside multiple times.
I bought broke both a stroller and a baby carrier
while pregnant. I only ever used the stroller. The unopened
carrier was boxed in the guest room. After this, I
found it unwrapped, a bit dirty at the shoulders and
smelling used. She never mentioned it and I never told
her it existed. I also remember a small car seat
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in her car. Even though she said her daughter was
seven and nine hours a day, five days a week,
she could have done anything. Oh yikes, she probably isn't
a mom.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Well she's she could be, because someone in that I
was saying, like if she to breastfeeds, she would have
had to take hormones unless she was she had her
own baby.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, But like the other thing is she was getting on. Ope,
they need a real mom, not just someone there two days.
But what about what about your kids?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Exactly? That's a good, great point. And I do think
she probably would have had to be taking hormones because
how is she away from a baby that needs to
be breast fed for you know, five am to or
what what is it like five to eight pm?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
She might have a milking business something like that.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I don't know what you can.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Have a milking business?
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Where you where you stimulate your your Why do you
know this? Nipples? And then you you who informed your
socks for fifteen minutes a day and then after about
three to six months you can produce them.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I'm talking about how she probably doesn't have a kid,
I know, but I'm saying, you're just adding more.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
You're saying this is how she got Like.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Sure, sure, okay, yep, yeah, all right?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Then what keon? Do you not research on how you
can potentially feed your child in case something happens?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Not me?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Maybe you should.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
I should get baby formula eleven? But not me? Are
you trying to you know what? I love you? Just stop?
All right?
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Then?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
You be you, man, You be you.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I'm consulting a lawyer about pressing charges. My mom is
coming to help and watch my baby when I return
to work. I don't feel safe hiring another babysitter makes sense.
My baby still won't latch and seems uneasy with me.
He lashed once while very sleepy. He takes formula. Fine,
I'll work to reconnect and move past this. Mothers, please
be careful about who watches your children. People say it
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isn't my fault, but it feels like it is, so
please be careful. We have comments. Yeah, I mean realize
it early on.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I would say, when you're trying to find people to
watch your kids, like going through obviously you can never
be like one hundred percent certain.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, but going through.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Like babysitting apps where they have to be vetted and
have like reviews, or people that you know, like that's
how I babysat, Like it was either people that I
was recommend, like friends being like, hey, sovia babysits do
you need like I know this person that needs a
babysitter and doing that way or going through an app.
So that's a one way to feel a little bit
more reassured about who you're you know, letting watch your kids.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, but it isn't your fault.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
You didn't know, and the second that you found out,
you know, kicked her out.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Comment Number one. Take time with your baby, but you
shouldn't minimize the situation. You need to contact a doctor
in case she can give him something through the milk. Also,
you should also contact the police. Big Yes, she is
crazy and could do that to others, So press charges now, agreed?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, and definitely Yeah, make sure that like everyone knows
on Facebook, be like this person name blah blah blah
did this to my kid.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, definitely let it out there asap, coming too, I
would call the police. That has to be illegal. Reply,
Hey to be that guy because I'm equally disgusted by
this story and came to the comments hoping a lawyer
had chimed in. But what exactly would the charge be?
Feeding it a hungry child. I hope ope finds something
to charge her with and lands like the hammer of
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thor because what the babysitter did was a violation of
trust and of Opie's family, exactly what Opie said. But
I'm at a loss as to what would even be
illegal and moral? Yes if thing evil, yes, but illegal.
This is totally fed up situation, and I hope Opie
gets justice. I just don't see what the legal system
could do. I hope I'm wrong and a lawyer has
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chimed in somewhere saying do this, But I don't know, there's.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
No way that that's not illegal. There's no I would
be shocked. I would be shocked if that wasn't illegal.
That's putting a that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Is it illegal to breastfeed someone that's not my child
without the consent of the mother?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I mean just the fact that it involves being partially
like unclothed.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Breast feed a child that's not mine without the consent
of another mother. Okay, Yes, it can be illegal and
is generally discouraged to breastfeed a child discourage the consent
of the mother due to potential health risk and legal ramifications. Yeah,
as the act can be considered authorized touching or a
child in exagerates it's.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Literally it involves being unclothed in front of a child
that is not your child. Obviously that's illegal. I don't
know what that commentary is thinking, Oh, moral, not illegal?
What do you mean it's not illegal? That's so obviously illegal.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
All right, update the last twenty days, a lot has happened.
My baby is okay after an in depth analysis, which
relieves me. But that is only the good news. Just
take a moment.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
That's the only good news. It's just everything else is bad.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, I was just take a moment.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
That's why we started with the bad news first.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah, a sandwich. I prefer good news, bad news, good news, whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
There's more of lead with the less amount. If there's
more good news, lead with the bad news.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Anyway, let's sear the bad news.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I spoke to a lawyer and the police. But in
my country there is no laws against front airbag feeding
someone else's child without consent unless disease is knowingly transmitted.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
That's crazy. How are there no laws against that?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
The disease? How can you make up? One doctor? Can you?
Can you do something? Here's twenty bucks? What can you do?
No law diagnose?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
That's insane.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
It also isn't a harmful act because my baby cannot testify.
What the baby can google? Gaga, Mama, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
If anything, well, here's the scary part because if the
baby does testify in a way, he knows how the
same mama with the babysitter.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah, and she's like see see, and they're like, well,
this child is that woman's mother.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
That's up to the stage.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Mother, Mama, Mama, point to your mother, say mama, when
we show pictures of the babysitter.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Not great not great.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I show the tastes, but they said he willingly accepted
her front airbag. What I feel powerless and I'm still
talking to my lawyer. But the chances are very low.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I'm sorry. Their excuse was, well, he seemed to like it.
He's a baby.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
I you know what country this is, because this is crazy.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
That's crazy. I'm sorry. Hear me up, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
This country cannibalism of like if you feed a chicken chicken,
well the chicken ate the chicken, chicken ate it.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
That's what it sounds like. It's literally a while that
chicken liked it. What's wrong with that?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
It's like in the show Hannibal. If Hannibal's defense when
they were like, you fed a bunch of people human meat,
and he was like, well they liked it.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Would that happen?
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yeah, it's the show Hannibal. The whole show is basically
him like feeding people human meat, but like he's a
really good cook, and they're like, wow, this is delicious.
And so if at the end of the show, I've
actually only seen a couple episodes, but if at the
end of the show he was like, well they liked
my food. So what's the issue here? Oh my god,
that would be crazy.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Okay, sorry, would they make a show about that it's
so dark?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Or being like, you know what? Another thing, if a
teacher groomed like beause someone said this, and if a
teacher groomed a like a student at like in Pretty
Little Liars, that girl is in a relationship with her teacher.
I've also never seen Pretty Little Liars like the student
she has a relationship with her teacher and she's obviously
she's into it. So if their excuse was oh well, no,
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I wanted to be on that, like, no, this excuse
makes no sense. I hate that you have a bad lawyer.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Your country's weird.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Yeah, no offense, All right, let's get back.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I'm so bothered by this. Oh man.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
So if someone kidnaps a baby and the baby's like
chill with it, that's fine too.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
That's on the baby.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah, the baby Willamy's fault.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
That's literally baby went with that person.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Low key.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
I feel like this judge is gonna be like the like, well,
let's just decide who the baby wants to go with.
The Baby's like ah mam to the babysitter, and the
judge is like, well, baby wants to be with that lady,
So sorry, OPI can't have your baby and I guarantee you.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
The court would be like, will you let her babysit?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yes, okay, let's find out what out I need to know.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I spoke to her again to confirm what she did.
She admitted taking my son out often using the carrier
or stroller front air bag, feeding him in public, and
taking him on car trips for errands more than a
dozen times. She said there was nothing wrong with it.
She admitted passing my baby office hers because as it
was simpler when talking to other moms. She confirmed showering
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in my room and resting the baby on my bed,
saying she didn't remember my rule. She claims she borrowed
my bra and underwear and put them in the laundry,
which I never found. When I asked why, she said
my son needed a real caring mother like her, that
a mother who works most of the week is not
enough and I would never be enough. I ended the call.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yikes, she's crazy, du Lulu crazy crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I tried warning other mothers on Facebook, but posts were
removed for defamation and hate speech. My mom is helping
things are getting back to normal, but I feel powerless.
I plan to start therapy when I can. My son
still doesn't seem at ease with me, and he won't
latch on at all. It hurts, but I need to
be strong for him. Thank you for reading my venting.
I hope nothing like this ever happens to any mother.
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We have another update.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Oh man, oh, I need to know.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
This is why we have another update. I remember the title.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Oh oh no, oh ooh.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Uh oh ming Minx is hopefully you recorded that? OPI Yeah,
I hope, so, I really freaking hope. So yeah, Kim
Fine says she's LARPing as you.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Ope, she's gonna change her name to your ni.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, probably probably gonna have like an identity fraud case
going on here.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You yikes, I'm scared.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
I'm scared, op, So you need to get a better lawyer.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
That's the thing, though, it's not it's not the lawyer's fault.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
This is the country's literal like laws. There are no
laws for this.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Oh, she's laws. Where do you live? And why has
this not ever happened before? Where you live?
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Because I hope the main reasons because it's never happened.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Before ah hopefully Update two, I started therapy straight away.
As of now, I'm still attending with the help of antidepressants.
Unfortunately they are the only thing keeping me straight in
the situation. I made a couple of posts a while
ago describing what happened with my former babysitter, and after
two months in therapy, she filed a petition for a
third party child custody rights.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Mind blown when I was notified of such an event
and thought it could never happen. But from a legal standpoint,
she's using the fact that she was my son's babysitter
for seven days a week from eight am to eight
pm for five months before getting unjustly fired and is
filing for extreme neglect on my part.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
That is such a whoa. I'm sorry if you live
in a country where this lady is able to get
your child after this claim.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Move, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
That would be insane.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
You was hired as a baby hired.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
As a babysitter, you were paying her presumably, and then
you fired her because one she went against your rules
of don't go into my bedroom and also was breastfeeding
your baby. I guess your consent.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
This is actually legit wild.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
That is insane weird. That would be insane.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Ever ever, ever, ever heard of a story?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
If your country allows this at.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
What where do you live? This is completely false, but
it's proof. She's using text messages. I wrote to her
at different times after eight pm that was coming back
home in half an hour or so, sometimes even on Saturdays.
This happened five or six times, since I worked overtime
in extreme cases. But since we never signed any contract
or registered slash texted the details, I have no proof
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to demonstrate that this wasn't real. Also, she's using the
fact that she didn't have a regular work contract to
her advantage, showing proof of deposits to her bank account
every month. For me, I feel so stupid because I'm
the one who proposed avoiding cash and using bank transfers
since I usually keep tracked of all my expenses that way.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Wait, why do you feel stupid? That's perfect? Do you
have proof that you were paying her to have a job,
a job that was babysitting for your child.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
She's even using the fact that I'm on antidepressants to
try and prove that I'm an unfit to be the
mother of my child. It's been like five months of this,
and a week ago I went to court for the
last time. I tried to rebuke every claim by proving
my work shifts. But I live on the countryside. It's
hard to prove that it came back home constantly at
five pm.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
It doesn't matter if you came home late. If I'm
sorry the amount, like every literally almost every person that
I've ever babysat for, has come back late at some
time or other. And if I was able to go
to court and say, well, they came back late so
I should be able to parent their children, that would
be insane.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I tried asking my neighbors, but they couldn't testify in
my favorite since they couldn't be one hundred percent sure
what what neighbors are those your neighbors are like.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
M You're like you going to your neighbors and you're like, hey,
my babysitters trying to steal my baby. Can you say something?
And they're like, I don't know, man.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Are you sure that she's on the mother and you're
the baby sitter?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah, we haven't seen you around.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
The tapes were also of no use since, according to her,
we agreed her front airbag feeding him and she was
taking good care of him. Obviously false, But again I
had no proof. In two weeks, the judge will deliberate,
and my situation is looking really, really grim.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
How you must have the worst lawyer in the world.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
That makes no sense. How like if you have no proof, then.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
How she's got no proof?
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Yeah, then how does she have proof of Like she said,
I can do this, I'm sorry if I.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Go to a judge and I say, yeah, I told
I fired it because she was breastfeeding my baby and
I didn't know, and then I got video footage of
her doing it, and then the babysitter goes, no, we
agreed on it. If I'm the judge and I'm not
a complete idiot, I'm going, oh, well, obviously this babysitter
is a liar. What how is this possibly in any world?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Grim for op, this is crazy.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
This is again. I need to know what country.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
This is, because you move out of that country.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
This is insane if this is real.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah, miskidicusses what about the police report that she tried
a vile.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, this feels like a nightmare. My antide presidants are
literally the only thing keeping me on my feet, along
with the support of my therapist and my mother, but
I'm going crazy with social soar or just keeping a
constant eye on my child and rushing in and out
of my house. It's stressing me out like crazy. I
feel like I don't have any chance in that I'm
losing my son forever. I don't even want to write
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this here, but I don't want to stress my mother
or repeat this again and again to my therapist. I
feel like it's all my fault that I should have
taken a part time job instead of keeping a full
time one. I'm sorry this feels incoherent or like I'm rambling,
but I really really need to be listened to in
order to keep my sanity. I can't believe this is real.
Update three, Oh my gosh, where do you live?
Speaker 4 (31:35):
This cannot be a real place.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Where do you live?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Is this actually real? Hannah says, I don't know anymore.
This is crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I don't know. I have nothing to say because I
need to know how this happens.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Update three, he's John og host.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
We don't get back to the stories, but a quick
three minute break of ads from our sponsors.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
A lot of editors in the past six months reached
out to me worried about my situation. Honestly, I don't
even want to give an update because I feel so
ashamed of myself that it's hard not to burst out crying.
The court's decision came through months ago, and it gets
every shred of hope I had. Custody of my song
was granted to my former babysitter.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
What Everyone who was involved in that case should lose
their jobs. They should lose their jobs because how are
you giving taking custody away from a woman who is
literally going to work to provide a house and care
for her child. We have no proof that she has
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provided any unsafe conditions for child, like that she's done
anything unsafe. The only unsafe thing that's happened is the babysitter.
This doesn't make sense. Miss Kittikat says she's a terriblelawyer.
If this is real, Yeah, yeah, she's got it. She
must have had a terrible lawyer if she lost custody
to her babysitter.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Maybe the former babysitter was in on everything, bribed.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Probably, here's my conspiracy theory. Babysitter found out she was
never gonna have kids on her own. Couldn't find a partner,
wasn't able to be pregnant, so to.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Stole a kid and stole kids literally kidnapping.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
And found the way still this child and knew everything
because this is going so easy, and also the fact
that she's proving everything, she's such a villain.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Ming mag says, why would the babysitter have more claim
than the grandmother, who knows any other family member? That
doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah, like, I feel like the baby, the babysitter planned
all this because she knows all the laws and was like, yeah,
I did this and that, Yeah, we agreed on this
on the first day.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
I literally don't. I'm like, I don't believe this. I
can't believe this is real.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Legally, the decision was based on the extensive time my
son spent under her care, me being considered unfit due
to my antidepressant medicsane and the absence of a formal work.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Contract also insane.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
The court perceived her daily involvement in my son's life
as taking on a parental role. They decided that she
was the one providing my son with emotional, physical, and
developmental needs, something they ruled I wasn't doing. Even if
I was working to provide for him. The court said
my working routine amounted to extreme neglect.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
That's a lie. What are you talking about, really quick?
It's not neglect. If OPI is paying for a person
to care.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
For her child, wait for them. She was the one
raising my son and to protect his welfare, she would
continue doing so. I was shattered.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
This doesn't make sense. It's not neglect. If OPI was
literally paying someone to take care of her child so
that she could pay to have her child in a
safe environment and be cared for, she's literally going to
work to support her child.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
This doesn't make any sense. These people are corrupt.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
This is wild. The moment when they handed my son
over to her was beyond agony. She took him in
her arms, she kissed him like he was her world. Moreover,
my son immediately tried to unbutton her blouse to accept
her front airbags, something he never did with me. He
started crying like crazy when he couldn't manage while with
the babysitter looked at him with a loving smirk. I
(34:57):
think that was the moment I realized that for him,
I wasn't anything. I wasn't his mom wasn't family for him.
The babysitter was his mother. I can't describe what I felt,
other than realizing I worked full time and ultimately lost
my son to another woman. I felt defeated, and as
much as I hate to admit it, I accepted the defeat.
This is insane because no one was fighting for you.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
This can't be true. I don't understand how this would
possibly happen.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
How is this kid gonna grow up and find out.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Yeah, like oh yeah, oh you're my babysitter. You stole
me from my mom.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Well, the thing is, the babysitter's gonna twist him like no,
no, no no. She was a terrible person. She was never
there for you. I'm your mother, what the heck?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Feeling so broken, I went to have a chat with her.
I asked her to please at least let me visit
my son and get updates on him. She accepted, but
with conditions. I cannot touch him or hold him. She
will hold him for the entire visit, and she will
be the one arranging the dates. I accepted out of
pure desperation. I don't know what got into me, but
(35:56):
after that, I held my tears and asked her why
she was so obsessed with my son that she even
took him away from me legally, She replied. She felt
I was unfit as a mother and that my baby
was so beautiful and needy that he needed a real
mother who could raise him properly. She's just saying that.
That's not really the reason.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I'm also very confused because she took that as a job.
What is her job? How is she supporting this baby
other than the time.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
She doesn't have a job. She doesn't have a job.
She was doing that eight am to eight pm.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
You were getting paid to take care of that baby.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
She legally stole a baby and doesn't even have a
job to support the baby.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
I don't I'm yeah, I'm so confused out this is crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
She said she loves breastfeeding and told me she loved
the sensation when she breastfad.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Well, that sounds really weird and icky.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
It was something she never experienced with her daughter or
with other babies. She said, he just sucked her.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I don't like that. I hate that.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
She says she liked it so much that she had
to become his mother. After that, I felt dizzy and
I'm the venge of passing out. But she continued. She
told me not to worry about him because she will
do an amazing job raising him. She said she would
make him fully dependent on her, just like a good
baby should be with his mother, and she had no
intention of winning him off or stop breastfeeding. And since
he likes my front air bags and milk so much,
(37:18):
I don't think I'll ever stop. Those exact words still
echo in my head.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
This can't be true. I's gotta be a fake story.
It's gotta because if the mom is saying all this,
or the babiesit are saying all this, I'm recording all
of it and going up judge freak alert.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
That'll care, dude, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
She also said she doesn't trust school, so she would
homeschool him, just like she did with her daughter, and
she walked off, telling me I should leave the mother
roll to the better fitted one. After that, I draw
myself in work to avoid facing reality. I got most
of my social relations because it's hard to explain what happened.
I feel so ashamed, like I did everything wrong. The
only friends I kept along with my mother told me
(37:59):
I should fight to get my son back, but I'm
so broken mentally that he don't have the strength. I'm
also going to my therapist, but she doesn't seem to help.
I'm relying on the antidepressants more than ever, and on
my work, which at least gives me a reason to
get out of the bed in the morning.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Girl, what just like I need you to finish this story,
I need it to be done.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I visited my son less than ten times in the
four months. My life revolves around working and waiting for
a text from the babysitter so I can see him.
Sometimes she texts, sometimes she doesn't. Sometimes she greets me
while breastfeeding him. It's hard to keep my composure, but
he seems so calm and in love with her, and
that's the only thing keeping me saying. He looks at
her in a way he never looked at me. She
(38:40):
arranges visits in public spaces like parks or bars.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
She's bringing a baby to a bar and they.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Never last more than twenty minutes. She always brings her daughter,
who clings to her mother and never leaves her side.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Okay, so she second does have a daughter who she
was after that whole talk about you know you need
to be there for your kids. She's supposedly homeschooling this daughter,
but she leaves the daughter alone from eight am to
eight pm.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
I'm saying, there's too many plot holes here.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
There's too many plot holes.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
I don't like this at all.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
I don't think this is real.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Is that her daughter or is that somebody else's kid?
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah, that's either someone's lying, like massively, like she's lying
about she's got a hole. I don't know. This is
sting operation going on, or someone's lying.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
She just buries her face and her mother and never
looks at me like I'm a monster. I hope my
son doesn't become like this. She just the thought drives
me insane. The visits usually consists of me watching whatever
she does with my son. I can't even touch him,
or she calls off the visit. This sometimes even means
watching her nurse him while saying how amazing her baby
is and how great of a mother she is. It
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assures me mentally and physically, but I need to see
my son. One time, when she was leaving, I think
I overheard her daughter asking for her front air bags
when they got back. I really hope I misheard. Just
thinking about how it makes me shiver and cry knowing
my son is with someone like that woman and might
become like that. I would like to try and get
my baby back, but I don't have the mental strength.
(40:04):
It feels like the legal system betrayed me, and I
don't see myself having a chance. I feel so stupid,
like I lost everything because I was careless. Can we
look up some more stuff for this?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Are all the comments just saying this is fake?
Speaker 4 (40:16):
No? A lot of the comments like, so sorry for
your loss of the baby, but this is from like
the last upbeat was from two years ago, and that's it.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
I literally don't believe this story. And I never say
this about story is I never say they're fake because
I try to give advice regardless of whether or not
I think the story is real. I can't believe this
story is real. I cannot believe it's real. It just
simply can't be real. That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
I tried to look for like any sense of it.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Control f fake.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Yeah, I don't see if anyone.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Says I did on the most recently the last update,
but everyone.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Is just no one is clocking this story. There's just
no way that the legal system would give your child
away to a babysitter.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
It's probably the worst story I've ever read.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
There is okay there there was one comment on the
third update where was like, there's no way this is real. Yeah,
that's it.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
There's one comment is it popular.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Not as popular?
Speaker 3 (41:08):
What the heck?
Speaker 1 (41:09):
How many uphotss have on that.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Update was twenty one. But on the most recent update,
let me start from the like from the very top,
dang man, wow, the very first one, three hundred ninety three.
I mighta check that one.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Let's see ya yai i ay yi wow. That's the
end of that story. Though.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
I really don't have any thoughts on this. That was
a nightmare.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
That was a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
I feel like I'm still asleep and I need to
wake up.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
I feel yeah, I feel like I'm in a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
A very surreal nightmare.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
Yeah, nothing on that most that's a least update seven
up votes twelve.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
This would not happen in the US, No, that would
be insane. Like a babysit are getting rights over any
like other family members is crazy.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
I'm baffled.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
That just made us a zero sense to me.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
If a teacher said, I like I teach these kids
from eight to three pm. And I'm watching this person's
kids more than they're watching.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Their kidding them, not even airbag, but just feeding.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Just feeding them. I deserve to have their kids. That
would be crazy. You can't just take someone's kids. She
was being paid to do a job, and OPI had
proof that she was paying this person.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
I need more evidence. I need to see the court
place I need Please, can we.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Prove this is true?
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Prove it, prove it. I want to see it. I'm
going to the next one ready.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
My father's wife kept stealing my child's gift and giving
it to another.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
This isn't white elephant.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
I forty female, went with my s thirty six male,
and our child, eight female, to visit my father and
family for the holidays. This is no weekend trip. I
drive eleven hundred miles one way every other year or
so to visit my family for the holidays, weddings, funerals,
and sometimes during the summer. This year, the plan was
to spend Christmas with my father sixty six male, his
(42:53):
wife sixty four female let's call her March, and my
brothers alongside their families. I normally end up at my
older brother's house with his wife and kids because my
daughter loves to spend time with her cousins, which we encourage.
By the way, this comes from Starbight eighty two and
if you want to spend your own stories, go to
the r slash Okay Storytime Separate. I'm Sophia, I'm Riley,
and I'm Keon. So Marge and I have had a
(43:15):
very strange relationship for over two decades. I have tried
to get along with her time after time, always ending
up compromising on my part. She's extremely passive, aggressive, and
will not confront or admit to any wrongdoing by herself
or her children. They are apparently all saints, and my
father's blood relatives are always wrong and need to apologize.
Because of the distance and the fact that we're driving,
(43:37):
I purchased a majority of our child's presence online and
add them shipped directly to my father's work. He owns
his own business. I was afraid of something happening to
them while sitting on my dad's home doorstep during the day.
People be steelinder in the holidays. I love to give gifts,
not in excess, as we do live very frugal lives
and usually only buy things we need. My child does
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not receive gifts except for her birthday and holidays throughout
the year. A few days prior to our trip, we
were making plans for Christmas Eve, and I mistakenly assumed
that my father and Marge would spend Christmas Eve with us,
considering that we were staying their home for the duration
of our trip. They had already committed to spending it
with my older stepbrother and his family two hours away.
(44:18):
We accepted this and said, Okay, we'll spend Christmas Eve
with my younger brother and his wife's family. No problem.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Yeah, like you guys usually do. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
We had an extremely wonderful time, and I'm glad that
we went. A few days prior to Christmas Eve, I
opened the shipping box that contained the one special present
that I knew my child would have liked. It was
a niche gift that is only sold online by about
two retailers, both of which do not have a traditional
brick and mortar store fund.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Is it a live view pro Yes, really no, and
you can lie.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
I opened the shipping box to check the gift show
my asso, and I also mistakenly showed Marge.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Uh, oh, guess who's going to have opinions.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
Christmas morning, I had forgotten about this one gift when
it came time to put presents under the tree, and
ran to our room where we were staying to find it.
I checked that room high and low at least twice over,
and myso also checked three times over to no avail.
I showed a picture to my father and he made
the remark that he saw Marge's grandchild wearing it on
her head the day before when they visited my stepbrother's
(45:20):
family on Christmas Eve. What March tells me she found
it on clearance at a well known store. Yet when
you look on this store's website for anything associated with
the gift in questions genre, there are no results. I
again give her the benefit of the doubt, because we
were leaving the day after Christmas to a neighboring state
where my mother lives. I have a touch of add
and I lose things. But if I spend the time
(45:41):
to find the lost things, I always find them. The
day after I got to my mother's house, I pulled
everything out of my car, went through every single bag,
every suitcase, and no present. Before I make accusations, I
try to cover my bases and look at all possible situations,
because I need to be sure. The only possible explanation
in my mind is that she stole it.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Does this item have a serial number? Well? I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Yeah, we should.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
You think I'd be against this. We should put serial
numbers on everything.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
I think you ask her where she got it from,
and then you email the people that sell it and say,
do you ever put this in this store?
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Yeah, she didn't mention it, but probably like get more
into it.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
That's weird.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Why would she still that you give it to another kid? Hey,
it's Sean here.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
We're gonna get back to this episode, but a quick
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Speaker 3 (46:32):
I have contacted my father, my full blood brothers, and
my uncle who is my father's brother. They all shared
stories except my father, about Marge and her shenanigans that
would make the average moral person gasp. She has constantly,
over the years tried to separate my father from his
family and embrace her side. She plans parties and gatherings
and makes excuses as to why she does not invite
(46:53):
my father's side of the family. This isn't just a
few times. I'm talking over twenty years here, my father
has made them and to my older brother that he
feels as though he's being tracked by her. She consistently
has his phone in her possession, so when I call,
it's hard to not speak to her in some way.
I have tried to save face over the years, but
this is the last straw for me. I've already told
(47:14):
my father that she has passed away to me and
that she is trying to control his life by pushing
his children away.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Yeah, it's isolation technique.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
I mean, she takes his phone all the time.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Why what's on there?
Speaker 3 (47:25):
He asked me why we always have tension, and I
told him I don't know. I've tried to get along
with her, and this was the icing on the cake.
This woman is everything she could possibly need or want,
and yet is still not happy or satisfied. This woman
is literally spoiled, rotten, and is complete control over my
father who's just trying to make everyone happy. In the process.
My brothers and I have been the ones to bear
(47:46):
the blame, the shame and have had to back down
to keep her happy. I just can't do it anymore.
I draw the line when you steal from my child, who,
by the way, also has special needs. My intention of
this post is for advice going forward. I just don't
know what to do other than try to stake constant
in my father's life. I love my father and I
worry about his health and her lack of care for him.
(48:08):
She takes medication and drinks on a daily basis. My
father may never leave her because of his health, and
the divorce would absolutely ruin him financially, medically, and the
aftermath would destroy his mental health. The punter is that
my ESSO works extremely hard to give us a decent life,
and he hasn't had a real vacation for the better
half of a decade. This is by his own choosing.
(48:28):
Believe me, I have tried to make him take a break.
He does not get along with his brother's or stepfather.
This trip was to try and convince him to move
closer to my family, because I'm close to all of
my family except for my father's wife and her children's families. Yikes.
So you're trying to convince him to move closer to them,
but one of the people that you're moving closer to
is controlling thief.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
Yeah, doesn't help that they've been married for about twenty
years too.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Oh dude, I actually I don't.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Okay, I would confront her way more about that gift
that she stole. I would definitely be may give me
to pay that back.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Mamaete all over. Yeah, I don't see isolation techniques happen
with older people. You should with younger people.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
I feel like I've seen a lot like people my
age not like this.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Yeah, anyone can isolate. Uh. Comment one, You're going to
have to be blunt with her and with your father.
This is unacceptable behavior. She needs to reimburse you for
the item that she took, because it didn't just disappear
over night. Then you'll have to go no contact and
let your father know that you will be there for
him if he ever decides that he wants to be
with his family again. I'm sorry, But if he chooses
(49:36):
to stay with her, then he condones her behavior. Oh,
he says, I completely agree with you. I just know
that the no contact is exactly what she wants. This
is really where I'm torn. Thank you for your comment.
Comment two says you cut them out of your life.
I'm really sorry for your father's situation, but at the
end of the day, he made a choice and decided
to stick by it. He chose his wife over and
(49:57):
over again, and yet he doesn't put his foot down
to be like this. He probably understands his role in
the relationship is giving her whatever she needs to keep
tapping that.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Fine young But what it's not the same age.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
The same age, and he allowed it to continue to
this day. So that's the bed he made. You and
your family, however, don't have to partake in this circus.
Go low contact or no contact at all. Meet him
only in restaurants, cafes and whatnot. Don't go to their house.
Don't subject your kids to interact with Marge. Your father
had twenty years to wise up and choose his family
over her. He decided not to. Opie says, we live
(50:31):
out of state, so my child already has limited contact
with them. I have warned my brother and his father
about the contact that my niece and nephew have with them.
Common Three says, Drive to your Stepro's house, show him
your virtual receipt and take the gift back. Embarrass her
for stealing. Opie says, what's funny is that my step
ro is a cop oh and today he confronted her
about it. She gaspled him, and now there's a storm bruin.
(50:53):
Common Force says, Marge is not the problem. It's easier
to say she's the problem, but she's not. If I
drive a burning car on your driveway, do you blame
the fire or the person who put it in your driveway.
It might be hard for your father to leave now,
but can you honestly say he has had no opportunity
for twenty years?
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (51:10):
Just because your father wants you to assimilate to his
choices doesn't change the fact that he has made his choice,
and he chose March six thousand plus days of him
waking up and staying married to a woman who hates
his children. Have you ever wondered how Cinderella's dad left
her with the evil step mom. Your dad is the
template on which the story was written. If you really
(51:31):
really feel like he deserves more of your patients than
arranged to see him without her there, take him to dinner.
If he can't be alone with you without her there.
It's just another choice he's making. Yeah, but there is
another update this any final thoughts.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
It's crazy. This is heartbreaking to see that the dad
you know again wants to stay with the mother kind
of passed on from his kids. It's really sad to see.
It's tough, really tough.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
To see he has to stay with his wife, stepwife,
with stepwife, with her stepmom.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
I guess, off, yes, my gosh, we'll stay with his wife. Yeah,
but you got other family, it seems like, and make
the most of it while you can through this tough season.
Speaker 3 (52:08):
Mm hmm. I think that, like if all of you
kind of unite, all of the other family members unite
and are like, Okay, we're going to limit contact with
his mom or you know, set some boundaries with her
and get on the same page about it. Not even
necessarily of same page on like how much contact you're
you gonna have with her, but just the same page
about who she is. Uh, and limit contact with your
dad till he realizes that he can't have a relationship
(52:31):
with you. Well the mom is there or the wife
is there.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Yikes, yikes.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
But there is an update. After giving it a little
time and attempting to stay constant in my father's life,
I have received a phone call from him today. Okay,
small talk went good until I asked if he had
spoken to March. She has expected would not admit to
any wrongdoing, and he frankly didn't want to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
Uh oh, So.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
Unfortunately I told him I was going no contact with
both of them. I also told him he lost a
daughter and a granddaughter, to which I was and still
heartbroken about. Thank you for all your advice. I deeply
appreciate it. Some I didn't want to hear or realize,
but it helped me to make this decision, and I
hope in the future will allow me to have less
stress when I visit my hometown. I have informed all
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of my family members about this, and every single one
is being supportive in my decision. She has one child
out of three left to drive away. I hope it
doesn't come down to that, but I have a feeling
at will.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
When one falls other will too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
I think that was the right decision. Oh Pee, yep,
your dad just can't see what he's doing and he
needs to, you know, have consequences so that he changes
his behavior. But that is the end of that story, folks,
and the end of this episode. So if you love us,
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