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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:15):
My boyfriend keeps using demeaning Game of Thrones quotes with me.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm thinking of it.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Oh, I don't have any quotes ready for this.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
This is embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
We are both Game of Thrones fans and I love
to advanter about it with Paul, who I've been dating
for two months. I really like him and he's super sweet. However,
his quotes are really becoming really demeaning and feel like
he is nagging me. Am I overreacting? Well, this comes
from Gemini Georgie, and if you want to submit your story, go.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
To our slash Okay Storytime Senator.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
When we were at a friend's party, Paul said towards
a group of mainly a few of my friends, Paul
says about me Sarah in front of them. We have
our differences, Sarah and I. She's braver I'm better looking.
This was really embarrassing for me. You don't say, because
I think some of them didn't get the reference, and
now that they think the guy I'm dating doesn't think
I'm that good looking. But on another occasion, we were
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making out and Paul whispered in my ear in a
silly voice, you know this is gonna be so great.
You have less honor than a back alley or I
got really angry because I didn't recognize that it was
a quote from Game of Thrones.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Bro at least picked the big ones. So I jumped up.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
From the couch and he said, chill out, it's a
Game of Thrones quote from such and such episode. I
told him that I was really upset and I'm leaving
his house now, and he just replied with I'm Sansus
Stark of Winterfill.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
This is my home and you can't frighten me. There's
no freaking way. But that was it.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
It's like he had no remorse for what he had
done and just thinks upsetting me is funny. I haven't
answered his text or call since it has been two days.
Am I overreacting? And we got some relevant comments Jill
bo Wagons says, love it great.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I told him the crossover.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I told him that I was really upset and are
leaving the house now, and he just applied with I'm
Sansus Stark of Winterfel. This is my home and you
can't frighten me. Joking references are one thing, but you
don't have to be the three Hyde raven to see
that he's.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Such a nerdy start.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So much and I watched the series.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I'm prepared now that your girlfriend is legitimately upset and
about to leave your house, it's time to knock get
the f off and actually listen to her.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
OPI replies to that, I agree.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
After I left, he texted saying, look, Love, it's just
my sense of humor. Do you really want to be
with a guy who has no personality and watches craft
TV shows. He then sent another text today saying much offended,
followed straight away with okay, I'm sorry. I don't even
know what to think about these texts. Jana nine to
nine says Ariya Stark would tell you this guy belongs
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on a list of stupid people to date.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Oh yeah, and another list.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Santa Stark agrees and would like to know if you'd
care to borrow a dog at a quick Lee says
he sounds like he should wear a fedora to be honest,
which Opi replies, he owns a foot but I've never
seen him wear it.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Luckily, Miss bullet dang.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Sianella says, oh, come on, haven't we reached peak loser
status yet? Sometimes we don't even know why someone is single,
and other times we know exactly why, and we have
an update. A friend of Paul saw the post on
our Slash Relationships.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Homepage and has sent it to him.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
It turns out I no longer need to worry about
if I overreacted because I've been dumped d.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I might leave this up.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
For a bit longer just to annoy him off now,
seeing as he has blocked me. Anyways, He Facebook messaged
me and said this, So, a friend just lead me
to a post on Reddit's relationship advice page that you
wrote about. I get that you were upset by the
joke that I made, but you've handled this whole situation terribly.
I am disgusted that was dating someone who would ridicule
me and let three thousand people bully me online, blocking
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you forever now, Sorry that I upset you with my jokes,
not sorry about your insecurities that you're gonna have to
live through.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
All right, that's a little extra dude, although I will
say he did cook when he was like, how are
you gonna let three thousand strangers bully me online?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Infra says that's absolutely hilarious. I wouldn't even be mad anymore.
That guy has given you what's likely to be the
single funniest ex boyfriend story you'll ever get. I think
you won the breakup before it even happened. I work hard.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Seven says yes.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Most of the time, awkward breakups take a few months
to age into funny anecdotes. Not this one, though, and
then prison Lamb Shanks says, your ex is a real
Walder Fray. Paul has texted me now saying that he
will unblock me on Facebook and won't block my number
if I stop entertaining the post about him and remove it.
I feel like I know where this is going because
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we're only halfway through.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
He says.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
He does think that we should still cool it off
for a while, but can we keep in touch if
we resolve this? Sa Melvin comments from deleted please reply
to everything he texts you with Game of Thrones quotes. Now, yes,
Luckykelt says, I love this. When he asks you to
take it down.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Say not today.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Bobo seventy five says, you know nothing, a hole, Paul,
And then we have updates. So I can't post this
as an update because Reddit lock the original post.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I think maybe because of too many comments.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Fast forward one month later and I see Paul on
Tinder and super like him as a joke. He matched
me back and actually messaged me saying something really funny
about all that had happened. We joked in a good
natured way about while went down, which eventually led to
us hashing things out and we got back together, and
then not long after that officially became boyfriend and girlfriends.
The whole reddit post s aga became a quirky story,
one we mostly keep to ourselves, and even a running
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joke between the two of us.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Then he definitely lightened up to it.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I think the experience of it made him take himself
a lot less seriously and learned to see the funny
side of things.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
At better times. No, Paul didn't make any Game of
Thrones jokes again.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Okay, so I am now extra confused because can you
go back a little bit.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
What did that just say? It said, what are you No,
it's my brain?
Speaker 6 (05:57):
It was that he he oh, it was that.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
He just now he takes himself less seriously, which is
like if you were really taking yourself seriously as.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Like, I'm serious game my Thrones fan, it's like, it's
it's pretty cringe. It's pretty cringe.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
He moved into my place at the beginning of December
when his lease ran out, and things were great, but
only for a.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Week okay, no kids.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Initially we split the cost of everything evenly. However, Paul
majorly upped his coffee habits due to an increased workload
trying to make sales.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
This is crazy, he's a salesman.
Speaker 7 (06:33):
Ugh.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
But he even started drinking as much on the weekend.
Ninety percent of a time. Around the apartment, he always
had a cup of tea or coffee in his hand.
It never made him jittery or anything, but it did
make him stay up a couple of hours later each night,
which was very disruptive to our normal nighttime routine. Also,
it wasn't cheap coffee he was drinking. Plus he would
also get two to go coffees every day or so,
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he claimed, as well as buying himself lunch at work
every weekday.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
He apparently had.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
No money to contribute to groceries for the past month
from coffee.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
This is the same lie, right, This is the same
time warp into another's story.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
No, we're here.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yeah, this guy sucks. Dude, bro, I feel stupid for
even trying. Did it thend this guy for a split second.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Now he apparently had no money to contribute to groceries
for the past month, yet he's buying to go coffees
and lunch every weekday at work, as well as a
relatively expensive type of coffee to be drinking at home.
But he said that if we are in this for
the long term, I needed to understand that his job
is stressful at this time of year, and so I
felt bad to ask him to stop buying these things
at work around this time of year. So I paid
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for all of the groceries myself. However, the worst part
of the problem came when we went to my family
house for Christmas. He bought his own stupid brand of
coffee with him to use. We were only there for
two days, and so it was really awkward when we
all had coffee slash cocoa, and he would decline my
family's offer of coffee and insisted on making his own
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separate one.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
That's also cringe.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
It's cringe, like, I mean, you don't have to.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I'm better than anything. It's like, I don't worry.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
Oh, I brought my own. Your trash is beneath me.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah, I mean if he he's just so cringe.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Man, he's just so cringe.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
We got into a huge fight later over this, and
I told him that he was being uptight and rude,
and he told me I was looking for issues in
him and that no one is perfect.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
By the way, We're not perfect. You're not perfect. But
we have a.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
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content longer than the wall. So, speaking of things ending,
the story is finally coming to an end here.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
You know what this guy sounds like. He sounds like
the stereotypical, like ipa hipster. You know, he's like, oh
you know, I think yeah, Like.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Yes, he thinks he's the coolest guy in the room
at all times. Yeah, and he, I guess thinks he
could get away with saying anything he wants as long
as it's the Game of Thrones.
Speaker 7 (09:09):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Come on, I watched elevated television.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Also, Game of Thrones is like the most popular television
show of all time. So you freaking suck as a
hipster too.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
It's true. Come on, bro, what do we think about
the start getting back to it? Just break up with him,
just break out. What are you saying?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yeah, but you're not compatible, especially given you know, it's
like the cringey behavior is one thing, but then like
the stuff with like he's spending all the money on
coffee and not.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Contributing to the grocery. He's crazy. This guy's a child,
a child, you know what? His only nutrients was coffee.
It's really so.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
On Saturday he broke up with me. Well you know
what they say, Wait, why did we work with you?
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Wait you broke up with him? Or he broke up? Nope, nope, no,
he broke up with her again. Oh pee, what do
you but what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
He told me that he started to emotionally shut down
after the fight. We had a Christmas and he wanted
to end things and that we don't realistically have enough
things in common. You don't watch good enough TV, babe.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
He said, I did warn you not to trust me.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
He was able to move out that day because he
doesn't have that many blockings subtle this, and we only
kept a couple of pieces of his furniture when he
moved in. I'm completely heartbroken and haven't gone into work yet,
and I feel taken advantage of. I don't understand how
someone could change their opinion of me so drastically after
one little fight. Obviously it's over, I know it is,
but it doesn't make it hurt less.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And it just seems to be so out of the blue.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
You know what I'm gonna say it, Ope, you might
need to do a little self work, sister, a.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
Little bit like twice he got he got to end
it twice. He should have never been the one.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
And she's like, I'm blindsided. I'm heartbroken. Like Bro showed you,
I guarantee you. This guy was like, Opie, your your
watch has ended?
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Yes yes, yes, yeah, yeah yes.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
No it's like spending money on expensive coffee because it's
your sales crunch time and like kno, no, this guy's
a low value man.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Ooh, and you do not keep him around.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
It's low value.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Oo.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I agree, I agree, I agree, true, And that's it.
That's all we got there. My boyfriend got upset I
didn't make him a plate. I'm so sick of his
childish attitude.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Yeah, but I'm hungry.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
Where's my food? A low hungry boy man? My baby way?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
This is literally what I deal with all day.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
God, do you understand how hard it is to maintain
these two see me?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (11:35):
It takes is one place.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
So by thirty four male boyfriend is upset with me
thirty two female because I didn't make his plate and
serve it to him during Christmas.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Where do I go from here?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Our five year anniversary is a couple of weeks from now,
and we have a two year old.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I didn't know anything was wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Until we started the five hour drive home after spending
the holidays with the family.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
By the way, this comes from Goblin cock damn.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And if you want to submit your story like mister Goblin,
good dogs, I shoka a story time and send him in.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
This is the Goblins.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
So he was pretty much quiet the hallway and snapped
at me when I asked why he was following too
closely behind a vehicle and also driving too fast. As
soon as we got home, he leaves without a word
for a couple of hours, gets back and says he
went to the mall to buy a couple more gifts
and shoes for himself. I'm annoyed because I've been telling
him for weeks to pick out shoes and I will
buy them for his upcoming birthday.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
He's really hard to shop for and picky about his clothes.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
So I asked him why he bought himself with the
shoes when I wanted to buy him some as a gift.
He says, in a rude tone, send me one hundred
dollars then, because that's how much they were. I finally
asked him what his problem was, and he was upset
that I didn't make him a plate. I spent over
four hours cooking for my whole family and also cooked
for Christmas Eve the day before.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I was tired.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
The holidays are exhausting. I couldn't believe he was upset
about that. He seemed annoyed on Boxing Day, day after Christmas,
because we ordered pizza and I made a play for
my stepfather, who uses a cane. I told him to
make himself a plate, and he just sat there.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Dude, how ain't you being your thirties acting?
Speaker 7 (13:07):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
This is god, this is absurd.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
He also said I barely looked at him during our visit,
and if I did, I didn't smile or look at
him lovingly.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Like I said, I was tired.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
My two year old was also extra clingy, so I
fell over stimulated and was just trying to be present
with my family. Lastly, he was mad because I didn't
go sledding with him and my family the final nail
in the coffin. I stayed back with my sister and
baby Niice, and we watched a rom com Unacceptable Jail.
I wanted to relax and have some me time, and
he was upset about that, saying I just wanted to
go on my phone, which I did.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I got to watch tiktoks and just scroll for a bit.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Anyways, after we got home and had this conversation, I
left upset and went to have dinner by myself while
he took our child for a walk. As soon as
I got home, he left again and didn't come back.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
For four hours. WHOA.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
We have barely spoken and I don't want to be
the one to sit down and start this conversation to
coddle him and make him feel better. I'm so sick
of this. Where do I go from here? And we
have some comments from Chicken Scratch Coffee coming up, but
just real quick, Dakota like, okay, the start off as
a plate, but this became now more than we can chew.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Guys, really quick.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I have to now defend myself because I was joking.
I mean, yes, studding is fun. She cooked all day
and just wanted to chill.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
It's fine. I'm being facetious.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Comments from Chicken Scratch Coffee, Why are you allowing this
toxic relationship to continue?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
He's a grown adult. He can get his own plate.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Opie says, it's my first long term relationship, my first love.
I asked myself this question as well. Low self esteem perhaps,
but I've just started therapy again, so I'm hoping things
will get better for my mental health. Lady Klepsadraw says,
sounds like you are a servant to him, not a partner,
considering his age. This most likely comes from deeply rooted
misogyny and it won't change. Watch out for isolation attempts.
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The way he didn't like you taking some me time
with your family but wanted you to be with him
and his family instead doesn't bode well. Do not prioritize
his family over yours is my advice.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
You don't want to end.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Up isolated from your closest people. They controlling, sexist man,
and it seems like you may end up exactly there.
Lazy B ninety four says this this, this be careful appie.
His behavior is so outrageous it shouldn't be acceptable. He
was angry that you weren't at his beck and call
at all times as the woman, and this only gets worse.
Please dump his a You will do so much better
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without him, she says, you're right, gets trauma from his mother.
And I feel like he hates me sometimes when all
I do is work, cook for my family, take care
of our child, paying for daycare and doing drop offs
and pickups, and stay home, he always finds something to
be mad about with me. If he isn't being jealous,
then he's mad that I don't clean enough or want
some alone time. And the judgment on op was not
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the a hole go figure. So we have this update
it might be our final update, but we got half
the story left.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
What do we we We all know that Opie should leave.
Speaker 9 (15:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Yeah, it's gonna be really hard though, because this is
like a first love type scenario.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yeah, the kid, it'll be tough, but we've seen we've
seen tougher. What do you how do you suggest Opie leaves?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Make him a plate of food and drop it in
front of him.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Oh and then he's eating, He's like, what's this? Unfolds
it divorce papers? Do they have? They have a kid together? Yes,
two year old?
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Okay, you got to try and go to therapy first,
I think, yeah, yeah, I think there's nothing like here
that's like so terrible that it's like, oh, like leave immediately.
It's just like, this is clearly not something that you'd
want to establish a long term, serious relationship with if
you this behavior was there earlier.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
In the relationship.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
But now you guys have a kid, it's like you
got to try to figure out at least how to
like community.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
I feel like there's just no communication here at all, like.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
An absolute dumb But I stayed. I cried my eyes
out and told him how I felt, and he didn't
have anything to say just that he's sorry and he
will do better. We were okay for a week. Today
is our five year anniversary. Well it would have been.
He broke up with me today. Oh I had to
stay home all week with our child because of a
parasite and I'm waiting on tests. Oh my god, jeez,
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that week for ape parasite test. Apparently on Thursday, I
got sick and I'm still sick with what feels like
a chest cold slash infection. The morning of our anniversary,
he goes rock climbing. I don't know what time he left,
but he was gone until noon. I was pissed, and
I texted him that would have been nice to have
help while I rested. I canceled the reservations. I made
it to the restaurant that we met at. When I
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told him this, he ripped up the card he got me,
told me he's going to stay elsewhere and we're done.
Oh broken, even broken, even.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Oh god, this guy's so much worse than I thought
he was going to be.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
He said, I am miserable and just want to be sad,
and that I make him pay with all the ways
my dad failed me. My father could care less about
me and I do have daddy issues. Loll By the way,
if you have daddy issues, I'm not saying I can
solve it. But what I am saying is we have
thousands of hours of catalog content that are of stories
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that might be of service to you. That's on Spotify,
Apple podcasts, wherever you listen to podcasts. You search, Okay,
story time and you got all the episodes, were full episodes.
It's stories just like this. But big daddy, d oh yeah, yeah,
I gotta talk to you my friend.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
So we've we've got the divorce. We actually have a
good bit of the story left. Where do we go
from here?
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Up?
Speaker 6 (18:08):
I guess like you can't.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Really this was bad, right, Okay.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
I did see some comments that were like, you know,
maybe it's even worse for the kids if they stay together,
which like after this reaction, I'm like, yeah, maybe this
shouldn't This guy shouldn't be raising anybody. I don't think, well,
like because he does sound like people were like, oh ideally,
and like all I said, I was like, is he though,
And it's like the way that he just broke up
with op because he could probably sense that that was
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gonna come from her side.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, yeh feels like that. That's true.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I don't think I'm being unreasonable for expecting him to
spend the whole day or coming back early from climbing.
I didn't even get a good morning, happy anniversary text,
but it is what it is. Anyways, y'all were right.
I knew it in my heart, but didn't want to
believe it. There's no coming back from this, but I'm okay.
Question Mark, thank you for letting me vent and for
all your advice. It's nice to come back and read
all the positive support. Speaking of which, a comment from
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mb Minx, who says, just hold your head high and
move forward. When he changes his mind, hold firm, talk
to her lawyer about child support, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
You can do this.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You've seen how he is now you don't let yourself
unsee it. I believe in you, and you deserve all
good things. Get your to Giff says, he sounds like.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
A man child now he's gone.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I almost guarantee you'll start thriving that which very quickly.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
I do think that is another point.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Like you said earlier, there's only up from here, and
I think op he will actually realize that this like
dark cloud is going to be lifted from her and
now she can like live her life, yeah, without like
constantly she's probably constantly worried about like, oh, he's gonna
be mad at me for something.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Yeah, and now And it was like the first the
first the first love.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
First love is blinding. It's tough, man, and it's rough.
It's tough.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
It's a whole show with him not around, putting you down,
draining your energy and self esteem. You'll start noticing a difference.
Opie says, thank you. Just got to get over the
sad part. I was the best version of myself when
I met him. I've lost myself in this relationship, but
I feel ready to move forward. Bef Official Knee sixty
seven ninety seven says, he's right on one thing, and
that has to do with your disappointment with your father.
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If we have a neglectful or abusive father, we tend
to see those wonderful things about a new man as familiar,
the things that give us happiness in childhood. But in reality,
it is our little child's heart yearning for the attention
and possibly the love and protection of our father. The
promise is empty and in the fact that the new
guy is enamored with you based on the same criteria.
If you had known this about each other and still
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wanted to go ahead, you could have gone to couples counseling.
I hope you will get some therapy for codependency before
you get into another relationship, because if you don't, your
little boy will continue to suffer. If you still have
unresolved issues with their father, now is probably the best
time for you to work through those things. If the
problems with your dad is a mouse related things, you
would want to find the best and strongest support at
alan On, which is a family program connected to aa
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Uziak's Anonymous which is all free and the best dream
that you can get to read Codependent no More and
getting the life you want. Op responds to that my
father chose a horrible woman as a step mom for us.
He had a new family and just doesn't care to
be an active father or grandfather to his previous kids.
I've told my ex how all I ever wanted for
my dad was to try harder to be present in
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our lives, to be a positive mail figure in my life.
And I've said maybe my expectations of my ex were
too high, so which makes sense. It's like, all right,
all if I don't get the fatherly affirmation from from dad,
try to get it from husband, which could be not great.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Daddy issues and edny issues.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
But all I asked for was care and consideration in
the relationship and communication. And I'm gonna go ahead and
close out the story.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
There. Final thoughts to Koda.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Don't let the sunk cost fallacy keep you in a
bad relationship like this for longer.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Then you need to Yeah, keep on truck and go
to and you know what, blessing in disguise, And I
think it's gonna be up, like like you said, up
from here. My boyfriend keeps breaking up with me over
a Facebook relationship. Status's literally the most important aspect of
any relationship. So we've been together on and off at
his whim for almost a year now. The last time
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we broke up, I had decided to make a Facebook
account so I could get in touch with old friends
and be back in the loop. I see you in
the comments. If you know what it's about to happen.
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it wasn't until July that I asked him why he
never posted photos of us on his Facebook. He got
a little annoyed at me for even asking, but he
put me in his profile picture. A month later, we
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argued over something ridiculous and.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
He told me to leave, and I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
We lived together, and at the time we were far
far from home and have the trailer with us while
he was working and I was taking care of things
waiting for him to come home and hang out with me.
He wanted to come home to dinner that I made
him and have.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
The trailer clean. I did those things for him, and
then he started asking for space.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I started leaving fifteen minutes before he got home, granted
I'd have dinner on the stove and the place spotless
for his arrival, for him to get mad at me
and accuse me of Lord knows what because I wasn't
home when he got there. I felt crappy that he
won a space for me as soon as he got home,
but giving him space didn't make him happy. Every time
we came into a disagreement, usually it was me not
feeling wanted or validated, or trying to find resolutions to
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why he's not happy and why I can't be the
one to make him happy, even though I know when
there wasn't a cloud of his two faced lying friends
in between us, he was perfect and happy.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Red flag because he's like, we need space. It's like,
do we not have that all day while you're at work?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
And yeah, I'm not there. You're not getting space.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I think he's doing something naughty. I think he's doing
something naughty. And then he gets home from doing something naughty,
as in cheating, and then he's like, oh.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Get away from me. I can't. I can't. I don't,
but like be perfect, but I can't get out of
my way. I need space. We'll get back to reality
and see, but I just wanted to.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
It would definitely check out that he's cheating. I just
don't think that he would be like he's like even more.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I can't.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
I cannot stand the sight of you, for it makes
me so guilty.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
He's been on and off with me almost every weekend
or month since the beginning.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I broke up with him.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Once for crossing a boundary and not showing he had
any care for the relationship and for lying.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Wonder what that was.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
He showed me exactly what I thought he would when
I had originally brought up the issue. He wasn't ready
to commit, nor was he ready to be considerate of
me or the relationship. He came back apologizing and saying
he knows he wasn't right, and he knows that he
didn't treat me right, and acted as if he realized
that he knew what he did wasn't kind and that
he would change and try to be better.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Well, three days later, A three days later, three days later.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Three days later, he's at a girl's house.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
So so it's three days grace, O, you.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
No, if it can even be cheating, if like you were, like.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
We were breaking up every week, are y'all even together?
We're going to break it's just just someone you live with,
you'und the impression that he's trying.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
She's trying.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
She's probably confused, she's trying to figure it out, but he.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Is cheating ten trillion percent? Oh god.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Well, three days later, he's at a girl's house, ignoring
my calls and texts, and then answers a call to
tell me he's busy and he will call me back.
We texted a bit and then he stops answering me
completely until the next morning, and he tells me that
he failed his wee Wei test.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Trash man.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I'm hurt and disappointed and also want to confront him
and help him do better.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I call him and it's not even eleven am and.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
He's at the bar with his buds, trying to forget
about his f ups. I tell him that maybe doing
the thing that caused him to fail isn't the answer.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Whoa, and maybe.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
The people that he's around aren't the best influence. He
yells at me and hangs out. I'm getting off topic,
SORDA fast forward to last week, where he removed me
again and then saw that I had made a Facebook
My Facebook profile is just me, as is his.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
His is just him. He broke up with me again
and fed off.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
To his idiot friends. He also called the police on
me while he was on all kinds of fed up
stuff to attempt to have me removed, but he was
told to leave instead. Ooh, thank god, they thank They
hit him with the switcher rou the switcher Freakin' rue
oun a reverse card. So I set up my PROI
and then a section where I asked for my relationship status.
I stated it as single, as I was very much single,
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not because I wanted to be, but because he told.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Me later than I. He comes back wasted.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
I'm sleeping in the bed with my dog, and I'm
woken up by him yelling at me, insulting me, and
packing my things.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
You're single on Facebook?
Speaker 3 (26:18):
He was not happy about that, although he goes around
telling his friends he's getting me out. He's evicting me
and breaking up with me. But how dare I make
a Facebook in state that I am single? Why would
you post in a relationship? After being broken up with
so many times and realizing that maybe he isn't going
to change like he says he is, and maybe this
relationship is better off coming to an end. So over
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the next few days, he's being nice to me again,
unpacking my things, being kind, and I ask him, what
is going on, sister, that is a question we all
want to know.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
He says, let's try to make this work.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
He wants me to change my Facebook and change my
relationship status. I only remove my status from being public
to only me.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
I'm sorry, but I literally see this as an episode
of trailer Boys right now, Dude, this is like a
like there's a side plot, the b plot, new characters,
and it's like someone's having a spat because the relationship
status on Facebook is wrong. Dude, that is an actual
Trailer park Boys plot line.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Wrong, but it's actually right. He's like, oh, I break
up with you. And then he's like, why is this thing.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Going's like, maybe because you told me yeah, Maybe you told.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Me that yes. Maybe because we're broken up, dude.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I ask him why it's so easy for him to
remove me from his profile every time we get in
some type of petty disputes, but never willing to add
me back.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
He gets mad at me.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
I ask him to put me back in and he
tells me only if I put him in mind. So
I tell him if he goes a month without breaking
up with me.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I will What are you doing?
Speaker 5 (27:46):
No?
Speaker 3 (27:48):
He tells me no way then, and then states himself
as publicly single. Days go by, we had fights to
go somewhere and we would be civil on the trip.
So first thing that happens is I question his single
status on Facebook and he gets bad at me and
tells me if I want to be in his profile,
he needs to be in mine first, because he doesn't
want to be some chump with a single girlfriend on Facebook. God,
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I told him I'm not ready to be public about
him not knowing if he's going to break up with
me come the weekend. He cannot guarantee me a month
of commitment, security or civilness. And we're getting into this
update two hours later. So I am now in his
profile for sure. I can't even celebrate that. It's just
we're staying in this mess, and he's on my booty
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about me putting him in mind. I ask him about
this woman he's been talking too lately and ask to
see their conversation. In the conversation, she asks if I'm working,
and then he corrects her to tell her that I
am no longer his girlfriend and that I don't work.
I work from home. I didn't know that we were
broken up this morning either.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I am slightly hurt because I thought things were going
to get better. But he's already telling this random lady
he's never met but lives in our neighborhood district that
he's single and lying to her about what I do
like it's her business.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Yes, So hey, leave this man leave this man.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
This next part in his defense.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
No, he tells me that they have healthy conversations and
I don't with my friends. No, that's not in his defense. No. No,
my friends lift me up as I do them. We
reminisce on the good old days, hope for good futures,
and make sure that they know that they.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Are awesome, loved and missed.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
A lot of my friends are men and love me
for all of me and remind me that any guy
would be lucky to have me and to never let
anyone break me down. Get her away from this man.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Listen to your friend.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Listen like friends, friends, please like listen to this point.
Intervene at this point, say something to her.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
They're telling that they are They were telling her that.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Huh.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
If that's what they're telling you, listen to them.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Oh wait, I do not tell them my problems. I
do not hit them up or pump them up in
a spicy sleep or physical way as if I'm attracted
to them. Ever, so basically she doesn't flirt with them, right,
she just like has like a healthy relationship. But also
she doesn't tell her problems to them, so they don't know.
The next up update is eight months out. We went
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from two hours after to eight months after. Do we
think they're still together?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Or why would you update eight months later?
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I made a mistake where I sound out a picture
that was intended to be paid for but ended up
not being paid, not knowing it would hurt him because
he told me he didn't care as long as it
was people we didn't know, and I thought that was
our mutual friends that we had together.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I didn't think that.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
It included this person twenty nine male who lives fourteen
hours away and I haven't seen in eight years, who
received the photo. Had I known it would have hurt him,
I would not have done it. I asked him to
correct it and tell her that he is, in fact
in a relationship with me. He yelled at me and
told me to go be with one of those guys
who is good to me. And instead of telling him
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the thing I always do, I want you, I don't
want them, I told him fine and walked away. Hey,
yes this is we like we like this, we like
this momentum, we like where where we're headed.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Okay, actually step into that and mean it instead of
doing it as like a point like no, just be
like Okay, that was the best advice you've ever given me.
I'll go find someone else.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Not even a minute later after that, he deleted me
and removed me from his Facebook profile and his friend's list.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Go by the.
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Speaker 3 (31:43):
Okay, story time two thousand full episodes, full length episodes.
But Dakota, we are we are nearing the end of
the story. It looks like, ope, he might be walking
away this time.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Do we think it's for real?
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Like?
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I hope so. I don't think it started from that.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
I think it started from that place where it was like,
and now he's gonna come crawling back.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah, but I really hope.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
That you wake up, op and realize that, Oh I
actually don't want him to crawl back because he sucks.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I think this finally might be the time.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
We then had a nice talk and he said he
was sorry and acted as if he was validating my
feelings and empathizing with me. He added me back to
his profile picture. I asked him if he told this
woman yet that he wasn't single. He then told me
that he won't tell her he's single until I add
him back on Facebook.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Wait, this is the dumbest relationship I've ever seen, maybe
the dumbest of all time.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
I told him I'm sticking to my word, and if
he goes a month and he shows me we're back
to here, that he can be in a relationship without
this constant need to be right and need to devalue
and diminish my worth in this relationship for a whole month,
then I will be happy to place him in my
profile picture.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Treating this guy like he's dry January? What is this story?
Speaker 6 (32:56):
He's not gonna be a trend for a month.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
And then to be set like that for the rest
of his life.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
You leave him.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
He still refuses to tell this other woman that he's
not single and refuses to guarantee me even a month
or to be patient enough to wait that month. Am
I the a hole for not placing him in my
photo after he put me back?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Oh my god, Oh my I'm exhausted. Yes, I op
and everyone in the story.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah, honestly, wake up, call, I will say, wake up.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I will say.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
I do feel for op because I think she's just
in the toxic vortex, right, and sometimes you just you
just fall down the endless toxic vortex wormhole and it's
just so hard to see it get out of. It
becomes your whole world. He's so controlling and who knows
what else he's done.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
So this is big facts being cooked up over here
by Big John.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
But still like you know.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I mean, she does say like, hey, you devalue me.
You make me feel what she is seeing a lot
of these things, so it's like take that and run.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
I want to know is where are the friends? Where
are these great friends? Where is your support system?
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Screaming in your face that you need to leave this man?
There were literally people you described that said, don't anybody
ever dig away yourself worked.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
And don't anybody talk down to you.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
And it's just like anybody will be lucky to have
you as a partner.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
It's like where did they go?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Where they go?
Speaker 6 (34:29):
I don't know because that they're all right, And it's
what you need to do.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
You need to leave this man. Leave this man.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
You are an a hole to yourself for not leaving
this man.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
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Speaker 8 (34:48):
My boyfriend's mother made him browse Tender daily because she
doesn't approve of me. Buckle up and prepare your teacups
because we've only been dating for a week and my
boyfriend's mom is already trying to aboutage things between us.
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six female, met Patrick thirty one male, through an online
writing group and we instantly clicked. While we're waiting to
actually meet later this year to decide if we're going
to make things official, we've been calling each other boyfriend
and girlfriend. When did you meet? How long has it been?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Sometimes it feels like people are rushing things.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Yeah, it like online relationships are weird because I know
people who've had very successful on relationships and I've had
people who are just crash.
Speaker 8 (35:34):
Well, we'll see what this one is. And we do
talk about marriage and kids, but it's the what if
kind of talks. I did tell him that I'm the
marrying kind, and he's open to the idea as well.
The problem is his mom, a Holly sixties female. I
haven't met Alli yet. Although I'm open to the idea.
The problem is that she already doesn't like me because
she's convinced I'm trying to trap him in marriage, even
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though we're still figuring out things. She even spent four
days fasting, either in protest or out stress or both.
That's not too extra what who is this lady? Although
I do feel sorry for her. Patrick did confront her
about her behavior yesterday, being fed up with it, and
she revealed that she had a bad experience with a
man she dated years before she met Patrick's father, her husband,
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but she didn't reveal any details. Why is that relevant?
Patrick and his dad were stunned that she never told anyone,
although I can understand why she wouldn't feel comfortable sharing it. Well.
Just now, Patrick and I were talking and he said
that Holly made him promise to scroll through Tinder before
her what for forty five minutes a day to ensure
he's keeping his options open.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
I have forty five minutes, like why not like an
hour or thirty more?
Speaker 8 (36:40):
It's forty five minutes.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
This is calculated.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
She like optimal time swipes per matches, clicks per minute.
Speaker 8 (36:48):
I do have complete faith and trust in him, given
how he's been treating me and how despite a few
hiccups and miscommunication, we've been able to work through things,
and he's told me that he is the most excited
to meet me and doesn't want to anyone else. I
really hope he doesn't have to go no contact with her,
but I believe he would if Holly got worse. I
do feel bummed, though, because I was planning on sending
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him weekly letters and cards. I love sending and getting letters,
and we're both afraid that she's going to get a
hold of them and burn them.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
This just keeps getting more what insane.
Speaker 8 (37:18):
I feel like they're not seeing how crazy she is.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
This is.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
This is literally pyromaniac. That's like, if it's through the mail,
this is felony. We're talking about a felony here.
Speaker 8 (37:29):
He's still living with them until his condo, which he's
purchased in is being built, is ready. However, Patrick did
tell me to keep writing the letters and that'll pick
them up when he visits me. He's holding his ground
and will be coming to see me one way or another.
And I'm standing by my man unless and until he
gives me reason to otherwise. It's just gonna be a
bumpy road. And there is an update, but there is
so much to unpack already. Do you have any thoughts
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save a lot?
Speaker 5 (37:54):
There's being involved in your child's see yeah, and then
there's this.
Speaker 8 (37:58):
Like she's doing a hunger strip because her child has
a girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Hey, let's commit felonies.
Speaker 8 (38:04):
She's like, I'm gonna burn Also, it seems like this
has probably already happened. If he thinks that she'd burn
the letters, Like, I feel like she's done that before.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
It's gotten probably on to the point where her insane
behavior has become normal.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (38:18):
So he's like, ah, she'll probably burn them. I don't know,
something crazy.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
It's like, what if this is like this is normal?
What's like the worst thing she's done.
Speaker 8 (38:24):
That's what I'm saying. She was like uh oh. He
was like, Oh, if Holly gets worse, he'll cut her off.
She's already at worse. We're already in the bad place, man.
We need to reel her back in asap. But there
is an update, So We're to dive right in. It
hasn't been a day and I already have some tea.
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First off, i'd like to thank everyone for their responses,
both good and bad. I would also like to add
a lot more contact context that I didn't add. I
was on my iPhone, so that's why my initial post
was so short. One. Firstly, Patrick isn't even from the States.
He's from Switzerland, which is particular lessly expensive to live in,
so that's why he's still at home. He does contribute
to bills and the like. However, he has purchased a condo.
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He's sent me pictures of the floor plan and they
have his name on them, so I know that's the
real thing. Holly and Carl's sixties mail. Patrick's dad have
an our house, our roles, which fine, which is what
she's using his leverage. He's playing the long game. In
essence Number two. We have a lot of discussions about
all sorts of things. We talk about favorite movies, favorite games,
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favorite styles of music, favorite sports, philosophical discussions, and marriage kids.
We're not actively planning a wedding. They're the fun discussions
that last maybe five minutes, and then we move on
to the next topic, although there was an adorable moment
where he told me that he said to his friends
that he was hanging out with his fiance, but you
guys aren't official. You guys have an interesting relationship. They're
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calling each other boyfriend and girlfriend, but they're not official.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
There's a lot unset.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
I think, Yeah, in this, I'm just absorbing all now
coming out. It's like, okay, so this was right, like
there's something that the parents are holding over.
Speaker 8 (40:02):
When I clarified what that meant here in the States,
he was embarrassed, but we had a good laugh about it. Three.
Patrick and I had our first phone call a week
or so after we started talking, and it lasted six hours. Well,
there was a bit of a translation English not being
his first language and I only know a little German. Problem.
We just talked and talked and talked, not really aware
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of the time that so much or that so much
time had passed, until my friend asked me if I
was coming to supper. The next week, we had a
video date where we watched the sunset in Switzerland, so
I actually got to see him and he got.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
To see Okay, at least this is not like a
ninety day fiance system, and.
Speaker 8 (40:37):
You never see him until he visits Number four while
we call each other boyfriend and girlfriend. We're going to
get together this summer after he finishes getting certified for
a new position at his job, and from there decide
if we're going to make it official. He's always wanted
to come to the States, but wasn't able to find
a good reason to come. I really hope it does
work out, because I like him and he likes me,
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but we're taking things very slow. Number five. What do
I see in Patrick? He's one of the few guys
I've met who actively takes an interest in what I'm
doing and what I like to do. He's also very selfless.
A week or so after we met, I decided to
ask him to help me pick out a bouquet for
my mom's birthday. He said, I have a three D printer.
I'm gonna make her a vase to put the flowers in,
and he's going to mail it to me. When I
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asked him to tell me the shipping cost so I
could reimburse him, he declined, saying it was his present
to her and that my joy was worth it. I
told him a little bit about my struggles with mental
health issues, and he insisted on giving me his number
so I can call him anytime. He was like, oh, no,
I have I've got to give you my number. I
gave him mine so he knew the number, and he
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texted me to ensure he had the right number. He
hasn't used it since, nor have I hounded him. When
he learned that I might have to work a double,
he set his alarm early. He's seven hours ahead of me,
so he could catch me as I got off work
because I wouldn't be able to talk to him at
a regular time. Fortunately, someone else was able to cover
for me, so I didn't have to do it, but
it still moved me that he did it. I've also
hung out on Discord with him and his friend as
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they gamed, and his friend treated me pretty well. Patrick
told me afterward that his friend liked me. So, with
that all out of the way, on to the updates.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Oh, that was just the fake.
Speaker 8 (42:10):
That was just yeah, that was just like, here's what
your life is.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
That's like the preamble to the update.
Speaker 8 (42:15):
Yeah, we were just learning where how it started. After
reading your responses, Patrick and I had a very long
talk once he got off work. I told him that
I didn't feel comfortable with him not telling his mom
off and I was already having doubts about us. That's
when he revealed that Holly also went a step further
and created a Tinder account for Patrick behind his back.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
This mom was just doing the most and not.
Speaker 8 (42:37):
In a good way at all. Carl and Patrick both
told Holly to knock it off and leave us alone.
Now here's where it gets really crazy. Holly decided to
go through Tinder to find dates for him. Apparently she
didn't realize that Tinder is a hookup app. According to Patrick,
she isn't the best at computer or social media and shouted,
this app is just for spici sleep. I was feeling secondhand,
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embarrassed and for Patrick is still going to come here
to the States this summer and this summer and from
there we'll make a decision on if we're going to
make things official. But he has my back as much
as I have his. I have no reason to doubt him,
and if he breaks my trust, I'm done. And he
knows that you changed all of his passwords to everything
he can think of and is hiding his important paperwork
as soon as the Kondo is ready, he'll be moving
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in and she won't be getting a spare key, and
the landlord will be made aware that Holly isn't welcome.
We just have to hold on until then. I did
share how sad I was that I wouldn't be able
to send him letters and that he was going to
have to wait to pick them all up for me.
I've been writing to him every week and we came
up with a solution with the help of one of
his friends who he met through work and also thinks
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Holly is crazy. But you know what else is crazy
The fact that you can listen to full episodes with
stories just like this. Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts,
or your favorite podcast app and search up. Okayst right time.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
That's crazy in the good way.
Speaker 8 (43:52):
I know that's crazy, and the really really good way.
But there is a little bit left to this story.
Do you have any final thoughts?
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Having the mom create.
Speaker 8 (44:01):
The count and then go on it actively.
Speaker 5 (44:03):
Mm hmm is very unexpected, Yeah, and.
Speaker 8 (44:06):
A little very ikey, very icky that she's toxic, very toxic. Yeah,
Because I feel like she said, after finding out, you know,
I got this, I feel like she must have been
flirting with some of these women's women's women on Tinder.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
That brings up the the issue of if they eventually
did meet up, how would that conversation be.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Is like, Oh, it wasn't actually me. It wasn't me.
Speaker 8 (44:31):
It was my mother the whole time.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Anything we talked about, because we didn't talk, it wasn't me.
Speaker 8 (44:37):
Yeah, but there's a little bit more. I'll send my
letters to this friend and then he'll give Patrick the
letters and cards. At work. Patrick had a lock box
that only he is the key to, and we'll keep
them there. So we're still hanging out and talking, but
we're lying low for the time being. We're still talking
by phone every weekend when Patrick takes their dog for
a very long hike. You may not be reshued about
our relationship, but I'm choosing to be cautiously optimistic. Things
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reading and I'll be sure to keep everyone updated. And
that is the end of the story. And I now
understand what Max max Andre was asking why resort to
a letter? Yeah, they were. It was just more romantic
because they've been calling and discord messaging and everything, but
writing letters.
Speaker 5 (45:16):
Yeah, yeah, it's like it's a lot of there's a
lot of people. I know you prefer like that tactile.
It shures you're putting them prey to it, and it's
like it's a special thing because you don't often get
mailed these days. That's not like bills or spam or
coupons that you never use or forget to use intil
The liter writing is a letter writing is.
Speaker 8 (45:35):
It shouldn't be a dying art form. Let's get it
back up.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
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Speaker 8 (45:45):
My boyfriend avoids kids, and I finally learned the reason
why trigger warning loss of a child. Sorry, this has
gotta be a long one. I, twenty seven female, have
been with my boyfriend, twenty eight male Jay for five years.
We've both been very close with each other's families, and
we've even talked about marriage. However, one touchy subject is children.
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if you want to submit your own stories, got our
Slashokay storytime separate, So whenever we discuss it, he gets
kind of stand offish. He doesn't really dismiss the idea, though,
it's just that he doesn't seem invested. I've always wanted kids,
and he just always says he's fine with whatever makes
me happy. Ever since, I've been content with the situation.
Speaker 5 (46:25):
If it's not an enthusiastic yes, it's not yeah.
Speaker 8 (46:28):
You gotta be on board have kids.
Speaker 5 (46:30):
At that point, there's people who will be like, I'll
have the kid just to make me happy, to keep
you there. But it's like the kid's gonna know. The
kid's gonna know that you didn't want them to be yeah,
and the lissoning.
Speaker 8 (46:39):
It can't be like a, oh, the dog that he
didn't want, and then.
Speaker 5 (46:44):
It's just that you know that there's gonna be resentment
and the kid's gonna not have a happy life.
Speaker 8 (46:48):
However, things escalated during this holiday season. Are setup has
always been that Jay spends Christmas Eve and Dinner with
my family, then I spend Christmas Day with his family.
This was the first Christmas I'll spend with my first
and only nie to female Anna. She spent her first
Christmas in the hospital due to her health condition, but
she's okay now, so I made sure to spend a
lot of time with her. We played a lot, we
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opened gifts together, and I even re enacted Anna's favorite
storybook using her favorite doll, and we even had matching outfits.
My sister, thirty female Amy, thanked me for giving her
and her husband some relief from childcare.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
That entire day.
Speaker 8 (47:23):
However, Amy also said she noticed that Jay, who was
just either sitting on the couch watching me or helping
my mom with additions dishes, was kind of distant with Anna.
I told her I also noticed that before, and I
just chalked it up to maybe Jay was hesitant and
awkward to play with Anna because he feels he's just
my boyfriend. Then Amy said she won't mind since she
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and her husband already treat Jay as part of our family.
I then went back to Jay and encouraged him to
play with Anna and to help us set up her
new dollhouse, but he said he's not feeling too well.
He ended up drinking a few more beers and staying
on the porch by himself, scrolling on his phone. I
didn't press harder and thought he might really just be
feeling under the weather. I just want to add for
context that Jay isn't a heavy drinker. He's a sweet,
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wonderful funny man who's sometimes broody and deep in thought,
but never use manipulative or moody, and he only drinks
on special occasions. The next day, on Christmas Day, we
had lunch with Jay's family. Afterward, I volunteered for clean
up to help Jay's mom sixty two female Mary and
brother thirty one male John. Jay's family was the best
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any significant other could ever ask for. Their very sweet
and supportive of us. But they're never prying. They always
check up on us, but they never overstep. So as
we were cleaning up, Mary asked me how my sister's
baby was. They helped with the bills when Anna was
hospitalized last year. Wow, this is a great family. I
told them that Anna's in great condition now and that
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she already spent the Christmas at home. They were very
delighted upon hearing this. Then I shared with them the
thing I noticed about Jay. Initially, I thought maybe Mary
could just give me advice on how to approach the
issue with Jay, since he's clearly not the playing with
kids kind of guy. But then John casually said something
like oh, because of Rosie. Then Mary quickly shushed him.
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Rosie was the daughter of Jay and John's eldest sister,
Beth thirty five female. I never knew the actual details
because everyone was very secretive about it. But all I
know was that Rosie passed away when she was just
three years old, and Beth and her husband moved away afterward.
I never met them in person. So later that night,
when Mary John and the other family members got a
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bit mit Moore wasted and Jay was already sleeping the bedroom,
they told me the story. I didn't force them or anything. Apparently, Jay,
being the youngest of the siblings, was really close with
Rosie back then. Jay was just around fourteen years old
when Rosie was born, so he became the super fun
uncle like I am now with Anna. He was actually
Rosie's best friend. Men On summer of twenty twelve, Jay
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was playing with Rosie outside and everyone, if again, if
this is something that you do not want to hear,
you can take a step outside because it seems like
it's going to be sad again. Trigger warning, loss of child.
I know this is Then on summer of twenty twelve,
Jay was playing with Rosie outside. He was blowing bubbles
and she was chasing and popping them, when a speeding
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car driven by a woman who was distracted on her phone,
skidded into the yard towards Rosie's direction. Jay reacted quickly
and was able to reach and grab Rosie, so the
car actually hit him, but the impact of the crash
Rosie did not survive. Jay was in a coma for
three days and had multiple severe injuries and internal bleeding,
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but Rosie didn't make it. Oh my god, I mean,
it is completely before we I mean, like, let's just
take a minute. It is completely understandable why he could not,
you know, would not feel able to be around a
young child at experiencing that's trauma, that is that's truly
and again I think he was around fourteen.
Speaker 5 (50:54):
Yeah, yeah, so they were only seven years apart. He's
still a child, Yeah when that happened.
Speaker 8 (50:59):
And also for him to act like step in the way.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
He's in there.
Speaker 5 (51:03):
He tried, Yeah, he.
Speaker 8 (51:04):
Tried, and everything to the point where.
Speaker 5 (51:06):
He was in a coma, he was he was going
to take the impact for her.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Yeah, he did the full Superman, Yeah, a superhero move.
Speaker 5 (51:12):
There's literally nothing else he could have done.
Speaker 8 (51:13):
Yeah, nothing. Everything was caught by the neighbor's CCTV, so
everyone knew that Jay was a hero for trying to
protect Rosie. It was even covered by the local news,
but Beth, who was understandably in grief, resented Jay for
not being able to save her daughter.
Speaker 5 (51:27):
I don't feel like putting that on the news was
good for him, because then she.
Speaker 8 (51:32):
Probably not everyone's talking about it, or even yeah.
Speaker 5 (51:35):
He's being hailed as a hero, he probably doesn't feel like.
Speaker 8 (51:38):
No, And now his sister is also saying you're not
a hero.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
And now it's forever out there. Yeah, that is.
Speaker 8 (51:44):
Just so devastating. She better, I really, I mean, of
course she went through the loss of a child, but
I really hope that, like now or at some point
she came back and you know, apologized for treating a
child that way. But at fourteen year old, Beth and
her husband then decided to move to another country to
cope their grief and start a new life, and they've
had minimal contact with the family ever since. Jay meanwhile,
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took the loss really hard. He blamed himself for not
being able to save Rosie and not being able to
attend her funeral since he was still at the hospital
at the time. Mary said that Jay was never the
same after that. He never went near kids and became
a lot colder, quieter, more reserved and antisocial. He also
had anger issues, but it thankfully went away. I haven't
had any issues with this. We also live in an
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area where people don't believe in therapy. That's that was
my question.
Speaker 5 (52:29):
I'm seeing in chat that he was seventeen when it happened.
He was fourteen when she was. Oh, okay, but still
everyone it happened. But still, that's seventy. That's not even
an adult. You're still not even You're not even out
of high school.
Speaker 8 (52:39):
So Jay never received professional help. After learning all of this,
I bawled my eyes out because I never knew Jay
was carrying such a heavy burden. The whole incident became
a taboo family secret that no one mentions in fear
of Jay breaking down or doing something he might regret.
They also never told me before because they assumed Jay
would be the one to tell me, But I told
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them that he never did, and that I never really
asked him. I then thanked everyone for letting me in
on this, and I told him that I talked to
Jay about it when the time was right. They understood,
and they said I could just ring them up if
I need help or support in any way. For now,
I just want Jay to enjoy the holidays and his
remaining vacation days from work. Now, I don't really know
how to start with him. I know, seeking professional help
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to process all the trauma and grief, even if it's
been over a decade ago, would be the top priority, absolutely,
but I don't know how to bring it up to him.
I don't even know when the right time to bring
it up is. I just want him to know that
I love him no matter what, and that I'll support
him in every step towards his healing, especially if we're
to form a family of her own. And there are
some comments and an updates, Oh okay, but I think
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right off the bat, I think that oh, he needs
to go to him at some point, maybe after the
holidays probably mm hmm, and say, hey, I was talking
to your family about you know, how we could maybe
approach like you talking to or like you hang out
with my niece. Bring that like why it came up,
and then say they told me the story about your
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knees and I understand why you didn't feel it, you know,
ready to tell me, and just going into that with
a lot of love and then saying kind of leading
into the talk about therapy because I do think that's
really important for him to go.
Speaker 5 (54:18):
Yeah, I feel like I think that your approach is
probably the best of both worlds, where you let him
know but also let him know that it's up to
him when he wants to bring it up again, exactly
because if you force him to, he's going to get
even more resentful and he's gonna be even more upset
with the family than he probably is already going to
be after knowing that they told her before he was ready,
when it's kind of his thing to tell. Yeah. But
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the therapy, is think is very important, but it's also
like difficult if they'd live in a part of the
world with therapy isn't accepted, because I've had friends who
are going through stuff and they're scared to go to
therapy because like if people find at home find out,
then they're going to think I'm broken, They're going to
think all the less about me. Yeah, And in places
where like there's such a strong like focus on commu
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like it seems that there is here that can be
in some people's mind's worse than actually living through the trauma.
Speaker 8 (55:06):
Yeah. I think Also I was talking to a friend
about this about they were interested in looking into therapy,
but a lot of people have been telling them that
who weren't going to therapy, and they were saying, like,
it's really annoying when people who aren't in therapy tell
me to do it. Ah, and like when people who
are in therapy, it's like I'm more receptive. So it's
you know, are you in therapy?
Speaker 1 (55:24):
Op?
Speaker 8 (55:24):
Do you know anybody who's in therapy that like could
talk to him about that, you know about the benefits,
so that you actually have someone who has experienced going
to it and has seen how helpful it is.
Speaker 5 (55:34):
I think a lot of the stigma around therapy is
going away now, yeah, because mental health is now being
talked about. It's being more accepted, especially with like minority
communities where mental health isn't talked about. It's seen as
like if you again go to therapy, there's something wrong
with you. But now like a lot of companies, through
insurance and stuff, are willing to like, Okay, you can
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get this amount of therapy paid for. So it's a step,
but I feel like it's not enough. Yeah yet, No,
we're getting there, but I'd like therapy is to go
back to the story. I think the best thing for
Scott asolutely.
Speaker 8 (56:08):
There are some comments comment one, Jay is absolutely a
better man than me times a thousand op From what
I gathered from Jay's family, Beth never really voiced out
that she blamed Jay for Rosie's passing. However, she became
cold toward him to the point of almost ignoring him
during family gatherings before they moved. Of course, everyone knew
what it was all about. And then a person replied,
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I think it's probably much more complicated than that. Grief
like this isn't really an A plus B equal C
situation like, oh, she's being cold, so clearly she blames him.
To have a little empathy for her, I'd say it's
a combination of grief, pain, and guilt that caused her
to withdraw from her brother, Like obviously the blame is
really assigned to the driver, not the child who had
a split second reaction to be selfless and brave. But
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now all those feelings and people are intertwined, and you
can't look at your little brother without wishing your daughter
was still there, and how you weren't there to protect
her and if you were, it would have turned out differently.
And maybe there's also guilt of not being able to
protect him because he was in a coma. Yeah, situations
like this devastate families. It sounds like Jade didn't receive
adequate support at the time from anyone in the family,
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and they really let him down in that regard. But
he's an adult now and can choose to take steps
towards healing. It'll be painful all over again, but it
sounds like he's been getting dragged through life by this
and he needs to know he still deserves relief. Comment
two says, don't bring it up to him, let him
come to you when he's ready. He might get pissed
that they told you, because that is his story to
tell you when he's ready. Hope. He says, Yeah, this
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is what I was leaning toward as well. I just
hope it happens sooner so is pain and sadness don't
consume him any more than they already have, and replies says,
I do agree that you probably should wait till he
brings it up himself, which might be sooner than later.
Before you decide to have children together, you have to
have this talk. Don't just assume having his own kids
will magically heal him. It might make him worse, cause
him to doubt himself and his abilities all over again.
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But I also don't see him bringing this up on
his own, his darkest secret, his greatest shame and failure
to the one person he would never want to look
at them and differently, you bringing up kids and your
concerns around them will bring this issue to the forefront.
If you were at this correctly, you could approach him
yourself with this. I think you should. I think I
kind of disagree with the comment saying the guests you've
already been told. Say something that addresses all his fears
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directed anger, but is also full of empathy, coming from
a place of love and healing. Maybe remind him, despite
how he feels, you are the one person he should
be able to talk about this with, to cry with.
You're his person and he's yours. You know he's in pain,
and you can't just do nothing. If he was in
your place, ask him what he would do. I still
think you should wait, but I fear that he will
never bring up this on his own if his family
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hadn't already known. I doubt he would have told them.
I'm so sorry. Ope, your story breaks my heart and
I wish you the best. Please while you were waiting,
just keep in mind what I said. It might become
relevant one day And there is an update Part one
the confession. Since learning about Rosie and posting here and
read it, I've been so conflicted about what to do.
A lot of you had opposing opinions, and all of
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them had merit, But knowing Jay and how he'd most
likely react, I chose to keep it a secret until
I find the perfect time, which you know, I mean,
you know him better. So what I didn't anticipate was
that the perfect time would come in the form of
a pregnancy scare. Maybe is that the perfect time is that,
back in January had a false positive. Everything happened so
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quickly within a day. I had to roll acoaster of emotions,
but bottom line was that I'm not pregnant after all.
When Jay got back home that night, I knew I
had to tell him everything. I told him I had
a pregnancy scare, but he has nothing to worry about
since it ended up being negative. At that moment, I
saw all the blood drained from his face and He
became so pale that I was worried he was going
to faint. I was holding his hand. He became so
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sweaty and cold and shaky. He rushed to our refrigerator
to get some water, and it was obvious he was
spiraling really hard. That was when I told him I
knew about Rosie. I'm gonna be honest. I mean, it
came out probably fine.
Speaker 1 (59:51):
M hm.
Speaker 8 (59:52):
I feel like that was the best time.
Speaker 1 (59:54):
No, that's absolutely the worst time, because that's when he's.
Speaker 8 (59:56):
Like already having like a like maybe a panic attack. Yeah,
it came clean because because I knew that was what
he was panicking about. I assured him that I'm by
his side and he could react however he wanted to it.
I repeatedly apologized for disrespecting his trust and lying to
him for weeks. I also asked him to please not
be mad at his family, because they meant well when
they told me. Throughout all of it, I couldn't really
read Jay's expressions. I wasn't sure if he was about
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to scream out of anger or burst into tears. I
told him that we don't have to talk about it
any further if he doesn't want to, but I'd be
willing to listen and support him whenever he's ready. His
only response that time was him asking me if I
wanted to break up with him, oh, which confused me.
I told him, of course not. Then we hugged and
he said he needs some time to process everything before
we discuss it, which I respected. For the rest of
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the week, we try to interact like nothing happened, but
everything was awkward since there is this huge thing hanging
between us and there is a part two to this
update the talk, But any other thoughts before we jump
into that.
Speaker 5 (01:00:53):
I can't imagine what this guy's going because on top
of the oh god, I could have been that, which
is stressful enough.
Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Yeah, it's already.
Speaker 8 (01:01:03):
It already comes with its own fears of stress.
Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:01:06):
But then to not only know that your girlfriend has
been keeping this from you, yeah, for weeks, that your
family told.
Speaker 8 (01:01:13):
Her without telling him.
Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
Yeah, and then just to have to relive it on
top of learning all this new information.
Speaker 8 (01:01:20):
Yeah, that was just that was that was a lot.
That was a lot in that moment.
Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Oh, I can't imagine what he's thinking.
Speaker 8 (01:01:26):
Durad says she probably should have waited for the panic
attack to subside before revealing. But this conversation needed to
happen before kids are on the table. Absolutely. I still
think if I were to give her retroactive advice, I
would have said, do it, yeah, much sooner, like what
you tell.
Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Him looking at this now, It would have lessened the blow.
Speaker 8 (01:01:44):
Yeah, and you would have been able to talk to
him while he was still kind of, you know, in
a little bit more calm mind. Part two the talk
the following weekend, which was eight days after we finally
sat down and talked about everything, He started apologizing for
not telling me sooner, but he revealed that his last
girlfriend dumped him after he told her about Rosie.
Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
What we Okay, that's insane.
Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
That's a lot the proper response to someone.
Speaker 8 (01:02:08):
Oh my god, Like it wasn't even dumped him because
she found out that he didn't want to have kids
after this trauma thing or this dramatic experience. It was
dumped him after he told her about this. That's insane.
He then told me that it was something that's been
weighing him ever since, and he's confirmed that he never
sought or received professional help. However, he said he's very
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much open to doing that, but he didn't think he's
ready yet. He also said he's afraid to go down
that path because it might release some inner demons and
drag me down with him. Another thing Jay told me
was that ever since Rosie was born, he felt an
instant and deep connection and sense of responsibility for her,
even when he was just a teenager at the time.
He said that having Rosie in his life made him
realize how much he wanted to be a father when
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he's older. However, since the incident, he's afraid of messing
things up again, so he never really considered having kids
from then on, despite really wanting to do so. I
assured him that we're on the same page on this.
Although I also want to have kids with him in
the future, I don't want to force it on him
when he's not yet ready. He also said that whenever
he sees me with Anna, my niece, he gets kind
of jealous because he wants to join us. Every time, However,
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he constantly reminds himself to keep his distance just to
be safe. I told him he doesn't have to worry
about that, and that he's more than welcome to join
us if he wants to. I also told him that
my sister and the rest of my family actually considers
him a part of our family. Just to reassure him
even more, Jay tried to lighten the mood by joking
and saying, now that I know everything about him and
still didn't break up with him, I could finally expect
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a proposal anytime soon. Sure. Yeah, we both had a
good laugh, but we agreed to wait for his recovery
first before getting engaged or discussing our future.
Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
Fan.
Speaker 8 (01:03:42):
What a healthy conversation.
Speaker 5 (01:03:43):
That went so much better than I thought it could have.
Speaker 8 (01:03:45):
Yeah, I mean because he was in like a much
better state of mind. Yeah than having a panic attack.
Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
He could have been angry. He could have been like
I want to leave y. Yeah, you hid this from me.
But no, No, it was surproprisingly immature conversation.
Speaker 8 (01:03:59):
Oh yeah, he was Okay, this is what happened. This
is why I felt this way. I'm open to getting help.
I just didn't know if I was ready. Yes, super
super healthy conversation. But there is a part three. Beth, Beth,
this is the sister. I was like, who's Beth. Oh
that is the sister, Yes, who moved away. During our discussion.
Jay also had another heartbreaking revelation. He said that during
the height of the pandemic, Beth's husband, Brian, reached out
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to him. Brian said that Beth had the VID and
was confined in a hospital, and that he was already
running low on funds due to bills and unemployment. He
also said that Beth had been almost catatonic since Rosie's passing.
She had been resistant to any outside and professional help,
but she was institutionalized for about a year after a
self harming incident. For the past decade, she's been cold, distant,
and withdrawn from society. Apparently the rest of Jay's family
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also knew about this, but again they just swept it
under the rug. It seems like this family does that
a lot, and it's not helpful to anyone involved.
Speaker 5 (01:04:52):
It's that thing of where we don't want to confront it. Yeah,
so we put it off to the side until there
is a point where it goes away or it gets
to the point where we can no longer ignore it.
Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Which is it's not healthy.
Speaker 8 (01:05:05):
It's not healthy for anyone. It wasn't healthy for Opie's boyfriend,
and it wasn't healthy for Beth, who probably felt like
she you know, she moved away, and then I'm sure
that a lot of her family kind of didn't feel
like they could talk to her, so they just didn't try,
and so that's so isolating. To be fair, they had
been helping Brian by sending financial aid to support Beth,
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but their version of the story was that Beth had
just gone low contact since they moved. Also, to be
very clear, Jay said that Beth never blamed him for
what happened to Rosie, although he initially felt that way
when he was younger. It was more of their parents
interpreting and spinning things a certain way to avoid tarnishing
their family's reputation. But when Brian reached out to him
directly years ago, he started to understand better. However, he
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still hasn't processed everything, and he still partly blames himself
for the whole thing, and there is a part for
but again the family misinterpreting things and not talking to
Beth and then putting that kind of misinterpretation on uh
on too uh Jay.
Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Part four.
Speaker 8 (01:06:05):
Our current situation for now, what we're exploring is couples
therapy so we can discuss our mutual issues in a
safe and pressure free space and hopefully kind of ease
him into the world of therapy. That's great because then
it's like you're there too.
Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
He doesn't feel alone. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 8 (01:06:21):
We've already found the perfect therapist to help us, and
we've now had six sessions with her. From what I
can tell, Jay seems a lot happier and less burdened.
We've also had homework from our session, and Jay was
even the one reminding me to do them.
Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
This guy's just green flags all the way down right.
Speaker 8 (01:06:35):
This is so I mean, it was such a sad story,
but like so much progress and so much you know,
great work done. Right now, I'm just hoping that he
becomes ready enough to up about Rosie so he can
heal and recover from his trauma. Not for me, but
for his mental and emotional well being. No rush though,
all in his own time. Also, Jay is no social media,
but I showed him the original Breddit post I made.
He spent like three hours reading through all the comments.
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It was the first time I saw him get teary
eyed because he never expected so many people giving him
support and saying kind words. He was extremely overwhelmed by
everyone's kindness. So we're both grateful to all of you
for that. We also saw some TikTok and YouTube versions
of the story, and you bet Jay browse through all
of them. He's still baffled. Why the TikTok versions have Minecraft.
Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Oh god, that's crazy.
Speaker 8 (01:07:18):
This is a crazy story. It's like talking about drama
and losing a child and it's just freaking Minecraft Parkour.
Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
It's brain rot.
Speaker 8 (01:07:29):
But you know what's not brain rot? Listening to fall
episodes of stories just like this. Just go to Spotify,
Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcast happen such a cocky
story time. So there, if you've made it this far
into our story, thank you for your time. I have
a good feeling that Jane and I are going to
be fine. I think so. We still have a lot
of challenges ahead of us, but here's to open for
the best and edit. So, Jay and I are now
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kind of sharing this account. He might reply directly from
time to time. This is his first time on Reddit,
so please be kind to him. Yeah, we're both reading everything,
and thank you again for being so And that is
for real, the end of that story.