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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
My brother's girlfriend demands that we treat her kids like
our own. I refuse. Those aren't my kids.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
I thirty two female, have two sons with my husband,
a ten month old and a three year old.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
I obviously love my kids, but I don't really like
other kids, especially kids I don't know very well.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
I am just not the maternal type that we'll want
to interact with other kids or find them.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Cute or whatever.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
By the way, this comes from Okay Jeweler forty one
thirty two and if you want to submit your own stories,
go to the our slash Okay Storytime Separate it. So,
my brother has been dating his girlfriend, Natalie thirty one female,
and she has two kids as well, seven male and
five females. When we first met Natalie, she seemed excited
that I have kids and started planning how our kids
will bond and play together. This did not happen, and

(00:55):
the main reason is the age difference. Again, my kids
are three years old and ten months I don't know
how she imagined that her seven year old will bond
so well with the baby or someone four years younger
than him. Her five year old daughter is a different situation.
She is very rowdy, so my oldest avoids her at
all costs whenever we meet during family functions or whatever.

(01:15):
Despite our kids clearly not blending well. I would say
that we were nice towards Natalie and her kids. Last Christmas,
for example, the first Christmas since they got together, we
gave gifts to her kids when we met at my parents'
place for dinner, and I thought that was enough. However,
Natalie decided to confront me on things I apparently did
wrong and hurt her feelings. She mentioned I did not

(01:36):
show a special interest in her kids that will potentially
become my niece and nephew in the future. I refuse
to have her kids over at my place for play
dates without her being present. To be clear, I am
okay with hosting her, my brother and her kids for
a dinner or something. I refuse to make my son
like her daughter. I am cold towards her kids. I
explained to her that I can't and will not force

(01:56):
my kid to play or be friends with anyone. I
also said that I am not comfortable having her kids
in my house without her present. I do not know
where kids that well, I have no idea how they
behave outside of the few family settings that we have
all attended, and I don't want to be responsible for
two stranger kids in my house. On the coldness side,
I explained to her that I am not cold on purpose,

(02:17):
but this is how I am as a person. I'm
not a kids fan, I am not overly maternal, and
I simply don't feel like being overly excited over kids.
She said that this is not true because she saw
that I am everything I claim not to be with
my kids. Well, yes, because they're my own children. That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
It's like, well, why don't you kept my children like
you care for your children? Yeah? Well maybe because them
literally my children. Yeah. She also claims that everyone has
been excluding her children. When I asked her how, she
gave me the same examples from above and claimed that
my parents are more affectionate towards my kids.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Oh my god, yes, because they are their grandchildren. This
is their first Christmas together. They have not been together
for very long year.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah year man, Yeah, I think like once it is
like official that you're in the family, or like you know,
fully welcome, you're like married or something like that, then yeah,
they'd probably have it changed in mind. Sure, but sure
right now you are still getting to know each other.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, so mmmmmm. In the end, we were not getting anywhere.
So I told her, Look, Natalie, you started dating my
brother one year ago. Also, my parents and I had
a couple of meetings with you and your kids, and
everyone was nice to all of you. I don't know
what your problem is, but you need to speak to
my brother. No one is excluding your kids. You can't
expect us to treat your kids the same as mine.

(03:33):
This is never going to happen. My kids are my kids.
They don't owe anything to yours, and you are not
entitled to anything from us.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Please solve this issue with my brother. My brother apologized
for her and mentioned to me that she sounds like
a mad woman focused on the absurd differences she sees
when it comes to our kids. He agrees that our
parents are not doing anything wrong and that I am
not doing anything wrong. He knows me, and he is
aware that I am not doing anything on purpose. Said
that Natalie has been crying after our discussion, and while

(04:02):
he agrees with me, he asked if I can try
being more empathetic towards her feelings. I told him that
I am polite to her, but she seems manipulative and
if she doesn't want to hear the truth, she should
not start this kind of discussion with me. My brother
is lost. He does not know how to manage this madness.
And I am honestly confused if I did anything wrong
when speaking to her. And we do have an update.

(04:22):
But do you think that she did anything wrong?

Speaker 4 (04:24):
No?

Speaker 2 (04:25):
I think that this woman is like expecting so much
or just like a lot of a lot of closeness
in a very short time. Yeah. For example, if like
you start dating someone and then they're like I love
you within two weeks, Yeah, it's like whoa, whoa, that's
a lot, that's a lot. Yeah. Yeah, And I mean

(04:46):
that would be weird for the kids too.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
I feel to be like, eh, like I love you
so much, and then like the kids don't even know
these adults.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
They're very young kids. We shouldn't be forcing these functions
to have a relationship with kids who are older than them. Yeah.
I have received a lot.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Of feedback on my original post, and for that I
am very grateful. I tried replying to as many of
you as I can, but it is overwhelming and my
DM's are full. But I have read your comments and
I really appreciate you spending some of your time to
talk to me. I will clarify some points that keep
being mentioned, and then I will get to the update.
Many of you pointed out that Natalie is looking for
an instant family. I was not used to this term,

(05:21):
but yeah, after reading your comments and looking for more information,
I agree that this seems to be the case. Many
of you asked about her family and her kid's father
and grandparents. I don't know much about them. My brother
told us something along the lines of she has a
complicated relationship with her family, and we did not insist
for more details. We considered this to be her privacy
and assumed that we would get more info when she's ready.

(05:43):
There was a lot of confusion on why the children
don't like each other. Natalie's seven year old son has
no interest in the kids, not even for his sister,
who is five. My baby is ten months old, so
except for his food, laughing and being entertained, he has
no interests at the moment. My three year old son
doesn't like it Natalie's daughter because, as I mentioned, she
is rowdy and too much for him. She is not

(06:04):
used to playing with the little kids, and so she
broke one of his favorite toys and pushed him on
two different occasions, making him land on his butt. This
led to my son clinging to me, my husband, or
my parents each time he's around her. The most overwhelming
part of this post for me was receiving a lot
of messages from people who told me how they were
forced to play with kids that they didn't like and.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
How this affected them.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
I'm really sorry for all of your experiences, but I
guarantee you I will not do the same to my kids.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
I would rather have people calling me names than force
my kids to do something that they are not comfortable with,
only to feed my ego and make myself seem like
a nice person. In case it was not clear, I
am a mother first and my main priority is to
be an ally to my kids, not be a saint
or seen as the most amazing woman alive. Many of
you accused me of not making time to bond with
Natalie and her kids, even after her dating my brother

(06:53):
for a year. To be clear, up until this point,
I've only met her kids four times. I think people
missed some details in regard to timing. Natalie started daging
my brother last year. Around February last year, I was pregnant,
I gave birth, and after that I had to raise
a newborn baby and a toddler. So yeah, sorry to
disappoint some of you for not abandoning my kids at

(07:13):
home to go meet my brother's latest girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
I'm a very nasty person for raising my kids. Some
of you seem to be very social people who are
able to form bonds with new people in a matter
of hours upon meeting them.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
I am not like this.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
For me, it takes time to grow a relationship, get
used to someone, and be able to be comfortable. So
in my books, the people who I've seen only four
times in my entire life are still strangers. Lastly, I
was accused of being a cruel person for not being
willing to be Natalie's village. I'm sorry if she's in
the position of needing a village instead of already having
people willing to help her, But I have no obligation

(07:48):
to be anyone's village. At this point in time, I
am my family's village, meeting my husband, my kids, and
my pets. I have enough excitement daily with my gremlins.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Not quite, that's not a village, that's just a family
in it. Yeah. Well, if we're being technical, that's not
a village. That's just definition. You're wrong, No, sorry, more.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
To be that for your family English major, Well, just.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Don't get it. I think she's just using I know
what she's saying, like like, oh, it's because the thing
is all about you know, takes a village. My family's myage.
That's just your family. She want a village.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
That's I think there's accurate, very wrong way, and I
think we've ignored she's saying she is her family's village.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, which that's you can't be your family using different words, Oh,
can't be your family's village. Okay, that's okay, Sophia, that's fine.
You don't have to be your family's village anyway.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Anyway, my oldest, although a calm and cute kid, is
a pain in the butt that needs to be supervised
all the time. If I don't supervise him all the time,
he will sneak and eat the cat's food or insert
his fingers into wire sockets. By the way, a genuine
question for all the parents who have three year old kids.
Are all the kids so kamakazi? Or is only mine

(09:06):
this level of menace?

Speaker 2 (09:08):
I think it's generally all kids.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
They all do that.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, so yeah, I don't need two additional stranger kids
in my home unsupervised by their parents, sue me.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Now to the update.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
After reading all your replies, I understood my brother is
not being fair. He asks me to be understanding of
Natalie's situation, But is he understanding of mine? I don't
think so, so I sent him the following message. Hey, brother,
I had some time to think about the entire situation,
and I want to share my thoughts with you. First
of all, I did something that might make you mad,
and you might not agree with it, but please keep

(09:40):
an open mind and read what I am about to
send you. I made a post on Reddit and asked
about my situation with Natalie, and the replies were mostly
pointing in the same direction. Maybe you'll want to see
some unbiased feedback from hundreds of people who don't know
us and are able to have a clear perspective.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Now I feel like you are not fair towards me.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
I understand that you have a relationship with Natalie and
she is your life partner, but it seems very selfish
of you to put the burden on meat. I understand
Natalie may have some issues with her family. She may
desperately need to feel accepted and to have a big
family for her and her children, but her struggles were
not caused by me. You asked me to be understanding
towards her, but were you understanding towards me? Did you

(10:18):
defend your nephew when he was pushed twice by Natalie's daughter.
Did you even explain to Natalie that she is expecting
too much from your sister, who is dealing with a
baby and a toddler. Did you defend your parents when
Natalie commented about them. I'm so sorry it got to
this point, but I will be honest. My main priority
will always be my family, not Natalie, not her kids.

(10:39):
I am not a therapist, I am not an emotional
support animal, and I am not her the old one
twoing bag for times when things don't go her way.
I love you, I am happy if you are happy,
but I need some space from the toxicity that she brings.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
You have known me.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Since I was a baby, you know how I am.
So please set the record straight with her and explain
that I will never be what she wants when she wants.
There is a little bit more to the story. Yeah,
I would love to know your thoughts on all of this.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
My guy. Yeah, I know, I think that was very reasonable.
I mean, I'm always an advocate for in person. Yeah,
for at least, you know, phone communication. I think that
text things can be misread or misinterpreted. Sure, sorry, but
I think nothing you said in the text was wrong.
I think it was all very valid. And yeah, I think,

(11:27):
what's your brother's girlfriend expecting way too much from you? Well,
there is a little bit more into the story.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
After around an hour, he replied, Oh crap, give me
some time to read everything and gather my thoughts.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
I will come over at your place. Just give me
some days. Please love you. Now. The ball is in
his court. You were right.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Natalie is his girlfriend, so it's his problem. Let's see
how things turn out after he comes to talk. But
I'm keeping my expectations low and that is the end
of that story.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, my brother in law demanded my grandfather's vintage watch
because he wants the good luck. Well, what if I
want good luck? Huh? I thirty mail, am engaged to
Sarah twenty nine female, and our wedding isn't ten months.
I have my grandfather's a vintage watch which he wore
on his own wedding day. It's a family tradition that

(12:12):
the firstborn son wears it on his wedding day for
good luck. By the way, this comes from be real son,
And if you want to submit your own stories, go
to the r slash Okay story time severed it. So
since my dad passed away when I was young, the
watch came to me and I've always planned to wear
it when I got married. My future brother in law,
Ben twenty eight male, is Sarah's younger brother and he's

(12:33):
getting married in four months. He knows about the watch
and its significance. Recently, he asked if he could borrow
it for his wedding, arguing that since his wedding is first,
he should be the one to have the good luck.
I told him no because I want to honor the
family tradition and wear it myself. It is literally no
meaning to this guy. Ben was upset and told Sarah

(12:55):
that I'm being selfish. Sarah is caught in the middle.
She understands my attached to the watch, but also feels
for her brother. I don't feel for her brother. Now
her parents are saying I should let Ben wear it first,
as it's just a watch and traditions can be flexible.
I really value this tradition and the memory of my grandfather.
Am I being unreasonable by refusing to let Ben borrow

(13:15):
the watch?

Speaker 6 (13:16):
And?

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Folks, there is an update? But now that you're on
the same page, what I think it's crazy. I think
it's crazy. I think it's Yeah, it doesn't mean anything
to him. I don't know. I mean, maybe you could
do it if you guys are kind of close and
like it seems like part of the family and it's
really just innocent, like hey, just like for some good luck,

(13:37):
you know, but like maybe you could talk about it.
But the second sol says no, yeah, we don't keep badgering.

Speaker 6 (13:44):
Like.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
For example, another maybe a little bit more dramatized version
of this is let's say Op has a wedding dress
and another you know, their partner's sibling says, hey, can
I use that wedding dress. Yeah, by my wedding and
they're like, no, this is my mom's wedding dress. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And they're like, no, it's just a wedding dress. Can
I just use it? Can I just borrow it? Huhh? Update?

(14:05):
Hey everyone, thanks for the comments on my post. They
really got me thinking. I talked to Sarah last night
after work about Ben wanting my grandfather's watch, and it
turned into a massive fight. We figured things out eventually,
but it was a rough one. Here's what happened. I
started by telling Sarah there's no way Ben's getting the watch.
It's my grandfather's worn't on his wedding day, and the

(14:26):
tradition is that the firstborn son wears it for good luck.
Since my dad passed away when I was young, it's
mine and I've always planned to wear it at our wedding.
In ten months, I hit her with what some of
you suggested, If it's just a watch to Ben, why
is he so desperate to wear it for his wedding.
In four months, she got heated, saying Ben's freaking out

(14:46):
about his wedding and thinking the good luck will make
it perfect. I called that straight up entitled, Ben's got
no claim to my family's heirloom, and I'm not handing
it over. Then I went in on her for not
having my back, like a lot of you pointed out.
I said she's only caught in the middle because she
won't tell Ben and her parents to back off. Sarah
lost it, shouting that I'm forcing her to pick sides,

(15:06):
and her parents are blowing up her phone saying I'm
being a knucklehead. We're clinging to a relic. That set
me off. I yelled that it's not a relic. It's
all I have left of my dad and grandfather, and
if she can't see that, maybe she doesn't care about me.
She snapped back that I'm fixated on a stupid tradition
and making her family feel like garbage. Ah, you're making

(15:28):
his tradition feel like garbage. Yeah. I have a feeling
this is gonna be the kind of situation where it's
like this watch is gonna be at my wedding, no
matter what are you going my wedding? Bars? Is this
what's gonna happen here?

Speaker 5 (15:41):
Bars?

Speaker 2 (15:41):
I told her, if we're getting married, she needs to
act like my fiance, not Ben's defender. It got nastier.
I said I will lock the watch in a safe
because I don't trust her family not to misplace it,
and she flipped, screaming that I'm calling them thieves. I
shouted that I wouldn't have to if she just shut
this down from the star. She started crying, saying I'm

(16:02):
making her feel like a horrible fiance, and I wasn't calm.
I snapped that she's letting me down by siding with Ben.
She grabbed her bag, said she's done with me for now,
and stormed out to her friend's place. I was furious,
thinking this might just be more than just the watch.
Late last night, Sarah called, still upset but calmer. She
said she doesn't want this to ruin us. I admitted

(16:24):
I got two worked up, but I stood by, needing
her support. Good in Europe. She broke down, saying she
gets how much the watch means and feels awful for
calling it a relic. She promised to tell Ben and
her parents it's a hard no and we'll face them
together this weekend. Good. Okay, okay, good?

Speaker 6 (16:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
I mean she was being pretty sucky, but you know,
she came around and realized, you know, sometimes you get
a lot of pressure from your parents and your family,
and you feel like you have to do it because
they're telling you you have to do it. Yeah, and
you have this big blow up thing and then you'd
take some time and you realize, oh, yeah, I'm in
the wrong. It seems like that's kind of the case here. Yeah.

(17:02):
I feel like if I was him, I would still
need a second to absolutely give because it's like it's
not just gone. It doesn't you know, right. I feel
like it's like, Okay, great, you realize how crazy you
will be in now let's talk about it because what
does happen? Like why did you feel the need to
react that way? Yeah, Like, I mean, I don't know
if he feels this way, but me personally, as Angie,

(17:23):
I feel differently about this woman. Yeah, I would feel disrespected. Yeah,
so I'd feel like my consent in matters doesn't really
matter exactly. And if they were saying that it's just
a watch, then like why did they care about it
so much? To this point, she's coming home today and
we agreed to work on talking without blowing up, especially
with her family causing trouble. To keep things cool, We're

(17:44):
considering getting Ben a nice watch as a wedding gift,
so he's got something without touching mine. But there is
a second update. Hey everyone, thanks for the support on
my posts about the watch mess. People wanted another update.
Here's what went down this weekend. When Sarah and I
talked to Ben and her parents on Sunday, we sat
down at her parents' place for brunch. Ben brought up

(18:04):
the watch, saying it be a classy touch for his
big day. I'd been thinking a lot about why he
wants it. He's well off, got a old watch collection,
all flashy modern stuff, not vintage like my grandfather's. It
doesn't fit him, so I'm guessing it's his way of
flexing control, like he's got a one up me before

(18:25):
his wedding. I stood my ground. It's my family's tradition,
tied to my dad and grandfather both gone. It's all
I've got left of them, and it's for my wedding.
Sarah didn't hesitate and backed me, saying if Ben kept pushing,
we'd draw a line. Things got heated. Ben got defensive,
saying I was making a fuss over just a watch,
an ignoring family harmony. He rolled his eyes when I

(18:46):
mentioned my dad, which pissed me off. His fiance finally
left brunch. I think fed up with Ben. That seemed
to knock some sense into him. He stepped out. They talked,
and both came back and apologized. Long story short, we're
doing a go in two weeks to ash things out.
I might be naive, but I'm optimistic. Sarah's parents didn't
say much, but her mom mentioned helping with her wedding

(19:08):
in ten months, Like I owed them something that hit wrong,
especially since we're signing a prenup to protect their family assets. Yeah, okay,
these are rich people who think that they are owed everything.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
We go, that's it, they're found it. Oh yeah, we
want that watch? Can give me that watch? Yeah, poor person,
give me the watch.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
It was crazy that he was saying, like, why are
you making such a fuss out of this, when clearly
it was a him making the fuss.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
This exactly.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
I'm glad you said.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yep. Yeah, it's it's wild. Wild that hit wrong, especially
since we're signing a prenup to protect their family assets.
I'm no slouch, though I made something of myself. Sarah
was there through my darkest days addiction hitting rock bottom,
falling apart. Her parents thought she could do better, kept
pushing their family piety thing, which probably made her feel
stuck in the middle. Early on, some of you said

(20:03):
I should dump Sarah, but that's not right. We've been
together for years and she's been my rock through that mess.
I've got screw ups, she's that slide addictions, some darker stuff,
so I'm not going to judge her for one rough patch.
We've started counseling soon, something we both want to keep
a solid There is a little bit left to the story,
any final thoughts. One of our commentarers said something about,

(20:24):
like add the watch to the prenup. Yeah, yeah, you
don't get the watch. Yeah you're not getting that watch, honestly. Yeah,
but there's a little bit left of the story. But yeah,
I think that you are on the right path with
really Sarah for sure. Yes, And I think it's just
like I think in therapy, you need to have a
pretty long discussion about how you know what you want

(20:44):
your relationship with her family to be going forward. Yeah,
and hopefully you kind of set those boundaries, don't let
them walk all over you as it seems they want
to do. And I think you'll be all right. Yes,
I agree, we decided not to get better. Watch. A
lot of you pointed out a wedding gift should be
for both the bride and groom, and I wasn't thinking
straight before. We're leaning towards a honeymoon contribution instead. I'm

(21:07):
starting to see clearer. Thank you everyone for the suggestions
and support. I know I'm going against the main suggestion
to dump Sarah, but that's not an option at this point,
not without me giving it my all because I know
she's willing to do the same. And that is the
end of that story. Folks. Good good, We're head in
the right direction.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
Though.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, I agree, I think what on like the brother
in law's behalf, Huh, you're crazy, you're cit But with
Sarah and NP, I think that's good. I still think
it's probably a good discussion to have of like, hey,
why did that happen in the first place?

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yes, but you know, still something that you can work
through for sure. For sure, I refuse to pay my
cats at her because she did a horrible job.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Well, how much were you paying her per hour? I
twenty nine female have an eleven year old Calico named Daisy.
A year Ago.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
I moved a few hours further from home for work,
which came with the issue of needing to find a
new sitter. By the way, this comes from cat Mom
five one five two five and if you want to
submit your own stories, go to the ur slash Okay
story time separate it. So my fiance thirty four male
and I were lucky to find somebody pretty quickly through
a pet sitting app, but she ended up being unavailable
during the week of our trip. This came up over

(22:22):
dinner at my sister's house and her daughter and my
niece suggested her cousin brother in law's family, Ava eighteen female,
saying that she's been looking for some side jobs to
make money before she goes off to college this fall.
I contacted Ava and she accepted the job. I invited
Ava over a couple of days early so that she
could meet Daisy and get acquainted with this space. The
most important detail here is that I emphasized our main

(22:45):
rule to not let Daisy out unleashed and unsupervised. I
showed Ava the harness and leash I used to take
Daisy on walks, explain the risks of letting her out unsupervised.
And she seemed to understand. Fiance and I left on
our trip a couple of days later. Thanks all was well.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
We finally got back yesterday after a genuinely lovely week
and met Ava as she was finishing up with her
last drop in. During our reunion, I found scratches on Daisy.
I asked Ava if she had any idea of what happened.
At first, Ava's story was that she didn't know, and
then she admitted that it might have happened when they
went on a walk. I went to find the harness
to see if there was any damage to it, but

(23:22):
it was in the exact same spot that I left
it in, along with the leash. I asked Ava point
blank because she let Daisy out by herself, and she
finally admitted, yes, don't do that. Guys, don't let your
cats out by themselves. They ruined the local ecology. Really, yeah,
I was thinking, you know, the cat could like run
away or get hit by car that, but also they

(23:43):
are like a menace to the local wildlife, which did
a pretty big pot problem the bird population. That makes sense, Yeah,
I could see that. Yeah. Ava said that Daisy wouldn't
stop hounding her for food.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
And treats, and that she was yowling so much during
a drop in when she was having a headache that
she put her out for a little while while she
set up the food and cleaned the litter.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
She then forgot Daisy outside all nights.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
Oh my gosh, which honestly is that's probably the most
fun that Daisy had in a long time.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah, honestly, mean, she gone to a tussle, But she
gone to a freaking tussle, man, Yeah, oh mysh, It's
like a miracle that she is still here, dude, and
came back. I would not give this lady money. I
would not give it.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
Absolutely, I wouldn't either. I would not either. I think
neglecting my pet like disqualifies you from payment. Although I
do believe in that cats and all animals have more
fulfilled life outside.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, probably, well I would agree with that, but forgetting them, Yeah,
living outside is different from just enjoying the outdoors, for sure,
But like I enjoy the outdoors, could you survive in
the oudoor? No, I'm domesticated degree. She said that she
realized when she dropped back in the next morning for
a feeding and a walk, and Daisy wasn't waiting just

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inside the door that she remembered that she put her,
so she tried shaking a bag of Daisy's favorite cat treats,
which worked. She's a greedy little cat.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
I was furious at that point and asked Ava to leave.
She asked what about the money, and I told her
that she wouldn't be getting paid. She got upset and
so that it wasn't fair to not pay her for
an entire week over one mistake, but eventually she left.
She has texted me an apology since. But I've also
received text from my brother in law, who was mostly
taking her side in the issue and saying that I
should absolutely pay her, but that he would understand if

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I docked.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
A day off.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
I told him that I'll be putting my money towards
a vet visit, which I have an appointment for tomorrow.
And to clarify a few things, Ava is not a
family member of mine. She is my brother in law's niece,
technically step niece, as his sister is Ava's stepmother.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
I do not consider her a niece or cousin of mine.
Family is not a factory here for me. I didn't
know her at all, and admit that I should have
been more cautious about hiring her. Brother in law said
that she was a very good and responsible kid, and
she had done some pet sitting jobs before.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
So I thought everything would be fine. Wouldn't be making
that mistake again. To those suggesting that I still pay
Ava but dock the vet bills from her pay, if
I do that, it will result in her owing me.
I do not want to pursue legal action or try
to get any money out of Abam. I've told her
and the brother in law this and expressed more than
once that the best I will do is compromise and
consider us square. I don't pay her. She doesn't pay

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any of Daisy's vet bills. Honestly, so fair.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
I think that's so fair because it is one thing
like when she was saying, like, you know, maybe you
don't get paid for all this, I was thinking like, well,
maybe like you can pay for like one day out
of the whole week or something. Yeah. Maybe. But the
fact that I, like I forgot about the scratches, scratches,
the scratches she's going to the vet. Yeah, that's expensive,
totally expensive and overpriced. Yeah, So I think that's totally fair.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yeah, I know results for certain things won't be available
or reliable, so soon I will be doing follow up
appointments for further testing and assessments. Some relevant comments, Scarlet
not that one info is the VET visit due to
harm incurred from the unleashed walk. If so so, then
not the a hole for not paying. Normally, she would
deserve to get paid for most or all of what

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she worked. But if she intentionally disregarded your clear instructions
and that caused damage, then it's fair for the cost
of damage to be deducted from the pay. Opie responds.
The VET visit is for the scratches that I found
on her. Yes, I want to make sure that they
aren't infected and that she didn't contract anything. I'm honestly
not sure how Ava didn't notice them, or if she
just thought that she could get away with it. They

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had dried blood stuck to them, and they were two
to three inches in length.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Hikes spikes man.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
I've since cleaned the wound a bit with some water
and a towel, and I gave her a true tube.
I wanted to take her to the VET immediately, but
we got home quite late, so it had already closed.
And when I called first thing this morning to ask
about coming in, they said that they had several appointments
and that somebody had called out sick, but they would
squeeze me in tomorrow. Jem's anity says, not the a

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hole at all. She's lucky your cat didn't get lost
or worse. Yeah, I'm currently dog sitting to help my
friend out as I'm not used around dogs. He's given
me a comprehensive list of dues and dunts. You bet
I'm following that list to the letter because he knows
his dog.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Better than I do.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
No.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Every time I've ever pet said, people give me like
a whole spreadsheet, you know, like a whole list of
things that I do, and then you go down the
list and you literally do everything that they say everything.
That's part of the job. Yeah, that's part of job.
Yeah what I Those pets are important to them. Yeah.
I catsit for my aunt like all the time. And
there was one time where like I was going into
that yard and one of them like accidentally got out,

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and I was like, I was terrified, but luckily I
was able to it like ran out and then paused,
and so I just snuck up behind it and picked
it up nice.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
I was terrified. Yeah, because of this. It's so dangerous
to let like cats that don't go out often. I mean,
this one seems too but on a leash. Yeah, it's
so dangerous to let them out because you don't know
if they're going to come back get up to Yeah,
although we're getting on quite well. She even took me
for a walk earlier. Opi responds, I'm honestly so glad
that nothing worse happened. We live close to a busy

(28:57):
road and I've seen other strays in the area. I'm
a little worried if she was attacked by a stray cat,
which is what it looks like, that she could have
contracted something. Northern lit Up says, not the a hole.
Tell her that you will pay her whatever is left
of her fee after the bed visit, provided that your
cat doesn't need anything due to her injuries. Daisy very
easily could have been affected by FIV from a faral cat.

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That's the part that would terrify me quite frankly, she'd
be lucky if you didn't suit her for the bet care.
If Daisy did contract a disease, oh, he says, FIV.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Is one of the big concerns right now. I've seen
strays in the area. Here.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
We do have an update, but yeah, someone in the
chat said that Eva is eighteen.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
I forgot about all that. That's crazy. Don't tell Ronald
Reagan about fib do you won't do anything.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
Yep, he's like the cat that out there. What does
We're going to have a gay cat wedding.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Gay cat wedding, Keep that away from the gay rat weddinges.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
BACA officiate space lasers?

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Ron what those were his thoughts when he got towards
the end of his Yeah, he was like after he
saw Star Wars, Ronald Reagan actually like wanted to develop
a space laser defense system to protect.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
Us from like missile threats.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
And everyone was like, okay, mister Reagan, go back to
your tapioca.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Like listen, you can get ideas from all over the place.
You'll never know when inspiration strikes.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah, but there is an update, come and right up.
I have been incredibly busy with handling my job, apparently
three people were fired in my absence and caring for
Daisy since making my original post. But I've read many
of the comments and understand that many people have questions
and won an update, so I'm taking my first real
free moment since coming back from my vacation to fill

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you all in on what's been happening. I took Daisy
to the day after making my original post due to
the scratches.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
I found on her.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Like I mentioned in the comments, they were two to
three inches in length and had dried blood on them.
The vet's opinion was that they were decently deep and
lanthly infected, which was later confirmed and Daisy was prescribed
meds to deal with that. She's much better now and
she seems to be back to near perfect health, but
there will be subsequent visits to determine if she has

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any other issues such as f IVY, which can't be
accurately tested for so soon. My vet was kind enough
to give me a quote for the future visits I've scheduled,
which I presented along with a bill from this visit
to Ava and her parents, who ended up getting involved
as well, but were much less aggressive than Ava or
the brother in law. The current bill by itself exceeds

(31:39):
what we had agreed to pay Ava. Ava tried to
push back more, which I ignored, and then her parents
reached out to me. The four of us, me, Ava,
her mom, and her dad met up, and Ava's parents
immediately brought up small claims Court and asked that I
please not drag them and their daughter through the system
over a VET bill. Just to be clear, I never
threatened to do so. The only time court came up

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was when brother in law brought it up to me,
and I'm assuming Eva as well, and I insisted that
I didn't want to make this illegal matter. I told
Ava's parents the same that I was not seeking legal
action and was happy to consider us square. There is
a little bit more to the story. But what are
your final doubts stories.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
I feel like everything's kind of working out right, totally
working out, Yeah, I think you're just getting you know,
don't give her that money, yep, get your cat all
fixed up, yeah, and find a better person to cat
sit your cat. Totally totally. I know.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
I hope he was mentioning, like the brother in law
brought up small claims court. I wonder if he brought
it up in the way of like, if you don't
pay Ava, we're gonna take you to court. And she's like, okay,
go ahead, bet like go ahead, this is all the
stuff that you cost me from this stupid mistake.

Speaker 5 (32:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, it's what a ridiculous thing. Ridiculous got her outside. Yeah,
and then it's trying to like I need money, you
don't do anything, because that makes you wonder, like how
much she was paying attention to the cat anyway? I
doubt at all. Yeah, get a little bit more into
the story before we wrap it up.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
The only other thing I wanted was for Ava to
apologize for endangering Daisy. She didn't seem happy, but she
said sorry, and that was that. I'm glad my cat
is safe and healthy, and I'm glad the drama is over.
Safe to say I won't be planning any more trips
away until my regular sitter is available again.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
There are a few other questions I noticed in the
comments that I'd like to answer. They will be in
a comment I post below. Thank you to everyone for
your feedback and your support. More relevant comments. Op provides
more info on her own comments. I got busy with dinner,
but here are those questions and answers I mentioned. Thank
you all again to the question why wasn't your usual
cats are available?

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Did she not like Daisy?

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Did she cancel. I think we covered that before. Lana,
our usual sitter, is currently dealing with.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
The personal loss. Oh.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
She let us know about it when we reached out,
and that she would not be available for a few
months as she got her affairs in order and traveled
to attend the funeral. She loves Daisy and has told
us many times that she enjoys caring for her. She
even croucheted Daisy as saying to have for Christmas and
we took photos of her in it for Christmas cards.
That is the cutest thing I've ever heard.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Another question, is Daisy poorly trained or very loud, very
needy and a nuisance? Yeah, it's a.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Cat, poorly trained.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
She's a cat.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Are you implying you can't train a cat? No, but
I'm complying that they don't like to be treated. They
like to rebel. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
But another question was does she wait by the door
or try to run outside? The answer from op is no.
On occasion, if she isn't preoccupied, she may follow me
to the door to say goodbye, or if she's expecting
a walk, we go out during a specific time of day,
but she doesn't wait by the door when we're going
in or out trying to run for it, and we've
never had an issue with her trying to slip out.
She knows that she's an indoor kiddy. I have also

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never had a sitter tell me that they've had an
issue with Daisy around feeding times. Sometimes she willed me
out quietly as I'm preparing her bowl or getting treats,
but she is not loud and obnoxious. Another question is
why don't you want Daisy going outside? Opie's answer is
I do want her to go outside, but only when
she is leashed and supervised for the safe of her
and the environment around us. Outdoor cats are more likely

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to be enlived by predators, harmed or infected by other animals,
or hit by cars.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
They pose a major threat to local product. Yeah. Love, Ope,
you're awesome. Yeah, you know a lot of stuff and
I like that. Yeah, very very true. They could wander
into a neighbor's yard and eat toxic plants. The list
goes on and on. I love Daisy very much.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
I care about her health and safety, so she is
an indoor cat, but I also want her to be
able to safely experience the outdoors leashed walks are the
only solution at the moment until fiance and I can
get a cadio built.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Okay. Another question is Daisy Spade are her shots up
to date?

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Yes and yes, But even with up to date shots,
she can still potentially contract something.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Oh and that is the end of that story.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
John, Here, we're gonna get back to this juicy story.
But a quick three minute break of ads from our sponsors.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
The bride purposely made us look bad, so I wore
a different colored dress.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
I would dressed with the cutters.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Note story has two ops woo the bride and the friends.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
Oh boil boil boy.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Original post by first Ope, am I the ale for
wearing a different colored bridesmaid dress after the bride tried
to purposely make us look unflattering. Recently, I twenty eight
female was a bridesmaid in My Friend Tara twenty eight
female and Tony's thirty male wedding, along with bridesmaids Amy
twenty seven female, Jane twenty nine female, and her sister

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Lily thirty two female. Tara was one of those brides
where everything had to be perfect so early on, Tara
placed her priority on the logistics. Because of this, Tara
had left the details about the bride'smaid dress.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
For last a Tara or Tara, Tara oath Tara or
Tara Okay, you can pronounce it either way.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
By the way, this comes from bad Dress and you
slash a friend's bride's throwaway And if you want to
submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay
storytime superad it Oh. Tara had organized a lunch for
us in April to talk over the details of the dresses.
She handed out swatches and said that the dresses must
be in that color and floor length. I asked Tara

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if she was being serious, to which Tara asked what
the problem was. Simply put, the color was ugly and unflattering.
Hmm ok already, it seems like you're the problem, OPI.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
Yeah, maybe you could have just been like, can I
have a different color?

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah. Jane also spoke up and said that this color
is gonna make everyone in the party look bad. Amy
also agreed this is like a bad episode of freaking
say yes to the dress when all the bridesmaids are
ganging up on the bride.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
But look when you have like three people being like
this is the worst color ever.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
Maybe it actually is clearly possible. Maybe it's the color
of baby food. This is not how you bring it up, though, yup,
this is not how you bring it up peas and carrots.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Tara rolled her eyes at us and said that she
was sure and she expect us as bridesmaids, to go
along with what she wanted. Lily decided to chime in
said that she thought the color was fine. I think
that she said this to prevent her younger sister from
going full bridezilla. For months, Amy, John and I begged
Tara to consider a different color, but she wouldn't budge.

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We asked Lily to ask her sister to reconsider her,
but she said that she was the bride and that
we should respect her choices. Yeah, no, crap, she was
the bride, but that doesn't mean that we have to
sacrifice the way we look and look unattractive. Honestly, I
feel like they're overreacting. I think that there is a
lot of you know, if the dresses were really revealing

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or really unflattering, like shape wise, I think that's fair.
But I feel like the color you don't really get
too much saying.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
I personally think that both sides are wrong. I think
if you have three people who are like, yeah, I know,
this color is literally the ugliest color I ever seen,
you should be like, oh, I should probably not put
that in my wedding that I'm happy my friends be
in seeing as they hate it. You, I can make
it literally any of the infinite colors available to me
as an alternative.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
But okay, i'll give you one thing. I'm not saying
that you're wrong.

Speaker 5 (39:12):
It'd be different if they were saying her dress needed
to change.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
They're like that color is disgusting. She's like, it's white.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
Right.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
No, I'm not saying that you're wrong, because I see
where I see where you're coming from. However, we've read
a lot of stories where people are like this color
is super significant, which is I'm not saying, is this
you know the case here, but like, there are a
lot of brides who are like, this is the color
I want because this is my husband and I's favorite color,
and we've always dreamed of having, you know, navy blue wedding.

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And they're all like, I don't look good in navy blue.
I don't want to wear and that's ugly. It's like, okay,
but this is my wedding.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
I feel like it can and I really love I
get it because navy blue, I mean navy blue be
one thing.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
The navy blue.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
We don't need the color.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
I need to know what horrendous imagine it's like a
gradient of like baby puke gen and like maroon.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
It's like it's like just highlighter yellow.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
And incomprehensible color combo.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Maroon's not oh, you mean color right?

Speaker 5 (40:14):
If you it's a split.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
If you split Maroon with baby Puke green. I mean,
I'm physically like upset just thinking about that.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Anyway. Amy pointed out that Tara was probably making us
look bad on purpose so that she could look better,
and that made me furious, a lot of conjecture going
on there. And also, it's her wedding day. She's supposed
to look better than you, right.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
That that is that is out of pocket.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
And here's where I may be in the wrong. Amy,
Jane and I decided that enough was enough and that
Tara was really being unreasonable about this whole thing, and
so was Lily. So we decided to lie to Tara
and say that we were going to order dresses in
the color she wanted and sent her screenshots of dresses
in that color. Yeah, you guys are the al Tara
is fine without seeing.

Speaker 5 (40:59):
The color, I have to say, you guys are there.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
You are the a whole unequivocally, it's tari istally fine.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
There is there any way that we can get color.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
No, I think we're about to find I think we're
gonna find that.

Speaker 5 (41:09):
Please please don't don't tell us, because I think.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
We're gonna find it. Meanwhile, the three of us created
a separate group chat and decided to order dresses that
would actually make us look good. We agreed on baby
blue and bought the dresses online.

Speaker 5 (41:22):
Ay, these broad's hedge are full of rocks. You ordered
baby blue for a wedding?

Speaker 4 (41:28):
Oh my god, as the brides isn't that like, I
you know, isn't that supposed to be like very tightly
controlled at a wedding?

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yes, the color.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Blue, well, no specific Yeah, something borrowed something blue. But
also the bridesmaid dress colors are tightly supposed to be
tightly controlled. Also, I feel like we there might be
a different reason for all of them agreeing that that
color was ugly, And I think it's because they're all
controlling and they pick on Op, or they pick on
the bride. That's what it feels like. It feels like

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they're all mean girls.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
Right, the freaking lie like all the bride. Also, it's
her wedding days if it's the group. No, no, no,
I'm not saying the bride and mean girl for being
like where this color. I'm just saying, these are three
people in your bride's maids.

Speaker 5 (42:12):
Yeah, closest friends.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
Sure, you might have some overlap in the way that
you guys act.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Sure. Tara didn't ask any more questions about the dresses
and essentially just took our word that everything was okay. Wow,
your friend took your word. Flash forward to the wedding day.
The moment we put on our dresses, Tara lost her
crap and I bet that Op's going to call her
a bridezilla. I bet that Op's going to call her

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bridezilla for that gets pretty dumb. She started yelling at
us and crying, and Lily had to escort her out
of the room. Apparently she must have gotten ready elsewhere
because we didn't see her up until we were called
to go to the venue for the ceremony. The wedding
was great, but Tara was upset. Since the wedding, none
of us have heard from Tara. However, Lily and Tony
have been texting us, calling us horrible people and claimed

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we ruined the wedding. Tony even said that Tara almost
canceled the whole thing and he had to force her
to go through with it. Maybe Tara was upset that
we didn't get the color that she asked for, but
I don't think it was right for us to make us.
I don't think it was right for her to make
us look unattractive? Am I the Ahle? Yeah? Yeah, and
there are there is a verdict, and I think we're
gonna find the color. You are automatically the ale unequivocally

(43:25):
the Ahle.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
Imagine like the Statue of Liberty, but it's five times
bigger and it's just someone's buttthole.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
That's you. Yeah, yeah, that is you, guys. Well, verdict
a hole info. What was the color? Terra cotta?

Speaker 5 (43:44):
A pretty a pretty good color. Not gonna lie, that's
not that bad spring wedding.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Yeah, that's like a summer wedding.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
That's nice.

Speaker 5 (43:53):
No matter what the color was, it's you're still kind
of the a whole.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
Yeah, it just would have been more understandable if it
was truly like, like it is.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Truly something that, like everyone who went to that wedding
was like.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
Why like a sea foam green like teacup dress.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
That's horrific. I'm not gonna wear that. You're not gonna
wear that.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
I understand insane, something insane. This is not even close
to being insane. Some people don't like that color. You
can't be upset about some people not liking that color. Like,
that's not a color that you can literally sabotage the
wedding for.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
You know what, I'm buying you tickets to Antarctica one way.
One you have a nice trip, to have a vacation.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
She shows someone who can get you some research.

Speaker 5 (44:39):
You know someone who can get you tickets to Antarctica.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Anyway. To all the redditors who are saying that it
was a fall wedding, ever, think she just chose that
theme as an excuse, just saying Oki what second post
by second ot, we're about to hear the brides the
bride's teak and I'm so excited for that. Man, your
friend is such a girlfriend sucks. Hi everyone, this is

(45:02):
my first time posting on reddits. I found this forum,
and I just need to vent a little. Over a
week ago, I married the love of my life, Lommel
Before the most part, the wedding was everything I dreamed
it would be. I wish I could say that our
wedding wasn't ruined. I wish I could look past the bad. However,
my bridesmaids went behind my back and decided to lie
to me and embarrass me. I had four bridesmaids. Three

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of them were good friends of mine, and the other
one was my sister, who was the maid of honor.
I could have asked other better friends of mine to
be my bridesmaids, but unfortunately they were booked and didn't
have time to be bridesmaids with their schedules, so they
attended as guests. So I picked three of my other friends.
Looking back, it would have been way better to just
have my sister as my bridesmaid. I wish I could

(45:46):
go back in time and slap myself. When the wedding
planning started, my friends didn't put much effort into helping me,
which was the first red flag. However, I kind of
just sucked it up and did mostly everything myself. A
few months later, I got my bridesmaids together and told
them the requirements for the bridesmaid dresses. I told them
that they would have to pay for it themselves since

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my and my husband, since me and my husband were
pretty much paying for everything else, and that the dresses
would have to be long and terra cotta, burnt earthy orange.
I provided swatches as well so they would have a reference.
This was the biggest issue.

Speaker 5 (46:22):
Just this watches.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
I just want to pointelle, they need to take a
page out of out of I can't remember the character's name,
but the lady from twenty seven Dresses, she goes to
twenty seven freakin' weddings where she's a bridesmaid, and literally
there's a montage of her pulling all these ugly dresses
that she's never gonna wear again. That's the whole point

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of that montage is that she has these terrible, terrible dresses,
and she does it anyway because she realizes that she's
not the bride and she doesn't really have a say
in that. She just needs to stuck it up and
wear these ugly dresses and be there for her friends. Yeah,
do that. Other than my sister, who has no issues
with the dress. My other bridesmaids were whining about how
ugly the color was, and now they wanted me to

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pick something else. My wedding was fall themed, so the dresses,
decor tables, place settings, invitations, floral suits, et cetera. Were
meant to be in the orange brown color palette and
they chose baby blue.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
So there is some stuff about how because they have
to pay for the dress, it's like they should have
oh somewhat of say I, but.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
I still disagree. I think that if you can't afford it,
then say that you can't be a bridesmaid.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
Sure, exactly like you get to say on.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Like the fit.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
Maybe you know I would actually in that exact same
train of style of dress.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
I'm sorry, No, I was just saying, I think you
get to say on the style of dress.

Speaker 5 (47:47):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
Same logic applies though to the why the wife and
groom who are paying for everything.

Speaker 5 (47:55):
Else at the wedding.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
Yep, you're not paying for that, so maybe you should
listen to Maybe is one thing.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
That they want you to do.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Yep. Several times after this, my bridesmaids would text me
asking me to change the color of the dress. Their
biggest complaint was that the color made them look ugly, which,
in all honesty I don't think it did. Plus, I
have already planned out the color scheme with virtually everything else,
so it wouldn't make any sense to change the color. Finally,
later on, they stopped complaining about the color and sent

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me screenshots of the dresses that they had bought online,
which were all in an earthly orange tone. When they
did this, I really thought that they had stepped up
as friends and wanted to make me happy. I would
have never thought that they were sabotaging me, because they're
all adults, you would think. I asked them if the
dresses fit correctly and if they needed any adjustments or hemming,
which I was happy to pay for them. But the

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three of them said the dresses fit fine. I trusted
them blindly. The morning of the wedding, my bridesmaids arrived
with all of their stuff and started getting ready. Hair
and makeup are done, the weather's nice, the wedding jitters
are coming in. I felt giddy, but happy and excited
to finally marry my partner. Then comes time to put
on the bride'smaid dresses. My friends reach into their bags

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and pull out their dresses, which were in the color
light blue. I was shocked. I asked them why the
dresses were blue, as that wasn't the dress I asked
them repeatedly to buy. One of my bridesmaids said that
the terra cotta was an ugly collar and that and
that they thought blue would be better. I asked them,
but what, But what about the screenshots that they sent me?

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Apparently it was to get me off.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
Their back, and I'm not kidding. They're not staying.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
No, no, I would have kicked them out. I kicked
them out.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
Don't talk to me anymore, don't text me. You literally
staged a coup at my wedding while you're one of
my what are supposed to be my closest friends. Yep,
so thanks for letting me know why forever.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
I was in tears at this point and ask them
why the heck they would lie to me. One of
the other bridesmaids then accused me of trying to make
them look bad on purpose so that they and outshine me. Dude,
if you look ugly in a terra cotta dress, then
you're not gonna outshine this girl.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
I just think you're not gonna outshaw all you were ugly.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Yeah, I can just I could just tell you're ugly.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
You're rotten on the inside.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
If you were truly beautiful, you'd look beautiful in anything.
You're ugly on the inside and the outside. And I
hate you.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Yeah, snap your fingers.

Speaker 5 (50:20):
I cast power would dissolve.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Sorry, I don't hate you. I'd just like you strongly.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
I'll say it. Cut it out.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
No, No, I'm just kidding. Cut it out. I told
them that wasn't true, and I was just going for
a fall themed wedding. My sister and I went to
a separate room because the conversation was escalating and I
was getting more and more upset. My sister had to
console me, and my husband consoled me over the phone.
After I was able to get ready, we all made
it to the venue for the ceremony. The car ride

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was silent. At this point, I didn't care anymore. I
just wanted to get married. The bridesmaids, aside from my sister,
stood out like a sore thumb. I'm really hoping that
they weren't too much of a distraction to the guest
during the wedding, but it's no doubt that they were
a distraction, all right, The photos with the entire wedding
party in it obviously sucked. My photographer said that she

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would try and photoshop the dresses, but still, I really
wanted to uninvite them from the reception, but I had
already paid for their seats, stable settings, and I didn't
want that to go to waste. The reception was a
lot better, but I had to still deal with the
disrespectful attitude for my bridesmaids. They were talking during my
sister's speech my dad's speech. One of them made comments
about how blue is definitely our color, to which the

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others laughed. My sister had to shut them down multiple times,
get them out. Who cares? If you already paid for them,
why would you want them there?

Speaker 5 (51:43):
They're not even there during my ceremony.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
No bye bye. They also continued their accusations about how
I was sabotaging the way they looked. I didn't have
the strength to argue with them. I just wanted to
enjoy my wedding. Since the wedding, I haven't talked to
my bridesmaids and I don't really plan on keeping them
as friends anymore. Makes sense, Yes, at the end of

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the day, the color isn't gonna be the biggest deal
about your wedding, let alone your marriage. But it's the
fact that they lied to me, put their selfish needs
in front of my needs, and the fact that they
were disrespectful towards me, and something that me and my
husband put a lot of thought into. It sucks because
the vast majority of the wedding was wonderful, but there
is a glaring stain over it that was caused by

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my so called friends. And there is a second update
by that by the bride. But uh, yeah, cut these
people off.

Speaker 5 (52:36):
They suck, and you let them off on easy street.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
I would have probably.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
Orchestrated some sort of really embarrassing if they insisted on
being at the reception. I would have organized some sort
of embarrassing call out being like, can.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
We have the baby blues stand up? Everybody? All the
baby blues?

Speaker 5 (52:52):
Can we have you stand up?

Speaker 7 (52:54):
These women thought it'd be a great idea to trick
me and buy a dress that specifically the worst color
they could have ever chosen for an earth tone wedding.
Can we all give them a round of applause for
being so brave?

Speaker 2 (53:08):
I probably wouldn't do that because I wouldn't want to
give them any more attention. Dude, I don't need to
go full crazy medieval or I'm just kicking them out.
That's all. Halbird update though, bridesmaid dress fiasco. Hi everyone,
I'm with my husband and I'm trying to forget about
the whole dress ordeal and just enjoy married life.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
I'm trying to forget.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
For some reason, the mods removed my post. Someone said
that I should wear a white dress to all three
of their weddings. It's funny, but I don't plan on
attending any of their weddings right. No, you shouldn't hang
out with them ever again, and like I said before,
I'm limiting my contact with them. Many people were saying
that I should have just punted the three of them out. Yeah,
and had my sister as my bridesmaid, which isn't a

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bad idea. However, it was all about having an even
number of bridesmaids to groomsmen, as there were four groomsmen
as well to those asking why my other friends couldn't
be a bridesmaid but yet could attend the wedding. In
case you don't know, being a bridesmaid involves more than
just being there for one day. And No, when I
asked my bridesmaids, I didn't see them as lesser friends
than my other ones. They are all just close friends

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of mine from different parts of my life. There is
a little bit left to this story. But do you
have any final thoughts?

Speaker 5 (54:23):
Probably prioritize piece.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
Yes, you know, like I said, I wouldn't even let
them stay. No, I would have kicked them out at
this ceremony. And although the thing I suggested to do
with the reception is funny, in reality, you should probably
just quietly have them removed. Yeah, unless you're feeling particularly
spicy about it, I don't know. I'm just tooted it

(54:49):
up on a Monday right now, and I'm ready to
choose the path of no good.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
But they, you know what, I don't know. They deserve it.

Speaker 4 (55:00):
They deserve to be embarrassed, humbled and called out. And
you know silver lining is they're such miserable people. Imagine
having to beat at person. Imagine imagine living your life
fundamentally from the lens of I can't let the bride
outshine me at her own wedding. What a miserable person.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
I'm just thinking that your friend is trying to make
you purposely look.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
Bad, which means that it's something that you would do. Yeah,
because you're a miserable not no, sad Seck's not the
right word. That was not right.

Speaker 5 (55:33):
I'm trying not to curse, and that came up.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
I want to.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
I wanted to do the funny, but I can't do
that one.

Speaker 5 (55:39):
Not yet. The world's not ready.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
The world's not ready for that. But the world is
ready for the end of the story. And finally, apparently,
according to the comments, there is a post out there,
supposedly posted by one of my bridesmaids, detailing this whole ordeal.
The comments are saying that my story matches up with
their story. I wasn't able to find it yet, but
I'll keep looking because, oh my god, no, I'm not

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deleting any comments like people are suggesting. This is my
first time logging back on since I posted, so I
don't know what's going on. PS. If anyone could message
me the link, that would be great too. It's a
lot easier than looking through hundreds of posts on Reddit
about bridesmaid dresses. Small update, I found the post. Yeah,
all of the details line up unless there was another

(56:21):
person out there who had three of their bridesmaids wear
blue instead of terra cotta. The ages line up two.
Unless the ages were fake, I don't even know what
to say or if I should say anything at all,
based on the age the post are put down. I'm
pretty sure I know which one of them posted. Like
I said before, I'm limiting my contact with them, which
is why I'm not even sure if I should comment

(56:43):
on her post or message here. I'm seething right now.
The fact she wrote an entire post bragging about what
she and the other two did is icky comments common one.
If they didn't love terra cotta, then go with deep
red or burgundy, white light blue. It's so different. Plus
terracotta is a pretty color anyway. The writer should have
chosen lime green or neon orange, more realistic and truly

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horrendous on most people. Reply says, right, like, even if
they were poc, terra cotta looks on looks okay on
most skin tones. I have no idea why they went
with something that would stick out like a sore thumb,
like a sore thumb at the wedding. It's because they're
bad friends. Yeah, they're bad fronds. See mean they're just

(57:26):
bad friends. We know why, and that's the end of
that story. Folks. They're just bad friends. That's that's the
easiest explanation, and it's the right explanation.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
They just suck, that's right.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
And they wanted attention. They wanted attention.

Speaker 6 (57:40):
Now and now that you know what they are, you
just give them as little of your emotional and mental
energy as possible. You agreed, you know, no need to
play the long con and then show up to their
wedding and like ruin it or whatever, because that's just
really all that is is you hanging on to a
negative thing in your life and having it be propped up.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
Don't prop up any negativity in for some other donkey
brained individual.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
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Speaker 2 (58:17):
My friend's boyfriend demanded my room on a trip, but
I already paid for it.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Sounds like you're out of money.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
My friend group Me twenty six, Mail, my girlfriend twenty
five female, and friends Jay twenty five, Mail, Eva twenty
six female, Liam twenty five mail and Frank twenty six
Mail have a tradition of renting a cabin every summer
and winter. We should got that.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
I love that. I would do camping, but someone doesn't
like to.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Camp to camp, I like to clamp. The cabin has
a master bedroom, double bed, a twin room, two single beds,
aloft two single beds, and a pull out couch in
the living room. My girlfriend and I have always paid
extra to use the master exclusively. Everyone else shares the
remaining beds, and Eva usually takes the couch since she

(59:04):
snores and she doesn't want a room with a guy grouse.
By the way, this comes from Wild Wind ninety eight
twenty and if you want to smit your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay storytime separate it. So
this year Frank asked if his boyfriend Ed twenty eight
mail could come with us. None of us had met him.
None of us had hadn't what I think none of

(59:27):
us had met him, but Frank said he'd cover meals
to make up for the cost. Ed seemed nice at
first and paid for dinner the first night, which was cool.
Problems started when we got to the cabin. Ed said
he and Frank wanted to take the master bedroom too bad,
tooting bad. I told him, maybe a little harshly, that

(59:48):
my girlfriend and I usually use it since we pay extra.
ED said he didn't get what the big deal was,
and that we could sleep in one of the single
beds or the couch. It sounds like they're already there, yeah,
in which case Opie's probably already paid.

Speaker 8 (01:00:03):
They've already paid. Also, if you wanted, like, there is tradition, too, right,
a tradition.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
You can't just bring another person and then be like, well,
I want to know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
It's not really how it works unless you talked about.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
It before, man, unless you talked about before, you know.

Speaker 8 (01:00:16):
Let's get let's just get a cabin that has two
awesome bedrooms exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
We could change it up, man. These single beds are
small and could not comfortably fit two people. Plus Eva
would have to share a room with one of the guys,
and she didn't want to. Ed said that my girlfriend
and Eva could share the couch and I could room
with one of the guys. I didn't want a room
with a guy when my girlfriend and I have been
together a lot longer and there's no reason for me

(01:00:41):
to room with someone else. In favor of a couple
who's been together less than a year. Jay and Liam
tried to help, like giving Ed and Frank the couch
so they could sleep side to side, but Ed said
he didn't feel comfortable in open spaces and insisted on
the master. Is Ed the new one? Or is Frank
the new one?

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Open space? Were you doing in open spaces that makes
you afraid?

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Okay? Okay, yeah, so Frey, Ed is the new one?

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Why are we afraid of the open spaces?

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Were we afraid? Where was I? I lost my place? Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Ed?

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
And I argued more, and he called me closet a
closet officer, saying I didn't support his and Frank's relationship,
but not letting them share a room.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
I see now, Lord.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
I was about to shout when my girlfriend shut me
up and told Ed we'd take the couch. Well, they
better be paying more. They better be paying more if
they're going to steal your space.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Yeah, that is true. How long are they sent? Just
a weekend? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
I think so? I don't know, maybe longer, I'm not sure.
We didn't see them much the rest of the trip.
I mostly hung out with my girlfriend and Eva on hikes.
Ed and Frank used the Master and left a few
days early.

Speaker 8 (01:01:48):
They didn't even they didn't even they were even there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
They're there, they just wanted a little hotel to do.
Who knows what.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
My girlfriend, Jay, Liam, and Eva and I have been
talking about what happened. Jay supports me, but even Liam
said I made a huge deal out of nothing and
that letting them have the Master for a week wasn't
a big deal. Even my girlfriend says I took things
too far by keeping everyone up, keeping everyone up. I'm
still pissed about being punted out of the room, but
I think I might be an ale because it was

(01:02:18):
late and everyone wanted to sleep, But I kept dragging
out the argument and didn't welcome Ed after he argued
with me, Am I the ale?

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
No. No, Also, it kind of sucks that your girlfriend
didn't really have your back on.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
The Yeah, that sucks, Like that was your room, you
paid for it, You were already presumably like settled, because
if it was late, you probably were already in the room,
and then Ed just started saying I want it, I
want it, and you were like, uh no.

Speaker 8 (01:02:45):
Everyone raised your hand. If you're afraid of open spaces,
and if you're not.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Don't raise your hand, don't raise that. I'm just seeing
if anyone here is afraid of open spaces. Yeah, because
if he's afraid of open spaces, that maybe you could
have had like some curtains around them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Yeah, we could make a little uh yeah, it's usually
the other way around.

Speaker 8 (01:03:08):
I would say mm hmmm, because he's been presumably in
the closet for so long, so he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Wouldn't you think he'd like to be in open spaces?
It's gate joke. Would you like to be out?

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
That's like really like I'm confused there, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
What's you tell? What's the me? Or he's like, this
is my friend Valentino, Oh she's an ally? Yeah, Ally?

Speaker 5 (01:03:36):
I lie.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Consensus not the ale. Commenters tell OP to send them
a money request. Commenters by OP or comments by OP
on why Frank was telling Ed sorry? On why Frank
wasn't telling Ed to shut up. Frank has always been
the quietest. I don't know why he didn't say anything
in my defense, because I'd never want him to think
I didn't support him.

Speaker 6 (01:03:59):
Ed.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
It seemed cool at four. Ed seemed cool at first.
Paying for dinner at a pricey place we ate at
one night, but everything went downhill after that. I did
my best to ignore both of them after the blow up.
The cabin had enough beds to sleep eight people, two
on the couch, four on the twin beds, and two
in the master. This was my fault because I didn't
think about it until we got to the cabin. I

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incorrectly assumed Eva would continue to sleep on the couch
and Ed would take one of the spare twin beds, which, honestly, yeah,
maybe that was an incorrect assumption. But also if they
wanted something different, they should have said, can we find
a different place?

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
Yeah? Expectations, dude, I bet you ten bucks this happened
in Pigeon Forge or Gatlinburg. What. There's just a lot
of cabins in Gatlenburg and Pigeons that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
You're just naming a place where they're probably at. Okay,
it was late and everyone wanted to sleep. My girlfriend
was getting annoyed with me for keeping everyone up, so
I ended up just sleeping on the couch like she wanted.
Eva ended up sleeping in the laft by herself, so
she was okay, But yeah, the whole thing sucked all around.
Eva usually sleeps on the couch so she won't have
to share a room with a guy. The couch sleeps too,

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and since my girlfriend and I still wanted to sleep
in the same bed, the guy suggested it. The other
two rooms only have two tiny beds. Eva ended up
sleeping alone in the loft while Jay and Liam slept
in the downstairs bedroom. I think they thought it was
better than us sleeping separately. I'm still mad at them
for not agreeing with me on the spot. If Frank
and Ed pay the difference for the master, they didn't.

(01:05:31):
I'm not speaking to Frank right now. There's room for
eight people to sleep just fine, so I didn't think
about it. We usually split based on who has the
best room. My girlfriend and I pay about forty percent
of the total cost since the master also has its
own bathroom.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Eva pays ten percent since she doesn't get an actual bed,
and the guys each pay about sixteen percent. Eva's always
been fine on the couch. I've slept on it before
and it's more comfortable than my bed back home. Also,
before my girlfriend and I started dating, Eva and her
share the masters, so they get up privacy while four
guys slept wherever. I could have handled it better, but

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these changes were all very last minute, after everything had
been booked. I expected Ed and Frank to share one
of the twin rooms and be done with it. We
paid extra for the master. They did not. They left
a few days early, so we got it back. For
the last two days of the trip, Girlfriend and I
slept on the couch, Liam and Jay spent sorry. Liam

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and Jay slept in the downstair bedroom with two beds,
and Eva slept by herself in the loft. I'd only
spend time with Ed if he apologizes and pays me back.
They ignored me the rest of the trip, as I
ignored them if Frank paid for other things he did.
We went out to eat as a group two more times,
lunch and dinner, before it became too awkward. On the

(01:06:50):
third day, he went out once to get more basic
groceries for everyone drinks, snacks, stuff to make sandwiches, and
after that we all did our own thing for meals.
Agreeing with you that this tradition will need to change
when and if more couples eventually come. Ed joined after
the cabin had already been booked and I incorrectly assumed
he'd be okay sleeping at a twin bed in the

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same room as Frank. Before my girlfriend and I got together,
she and Eva had exclusive use of the master bedroom
for privacy. If anyone else in the group wanted it,
they could pay with My girlfriend and I paid for
it and we'd sleep in the other room. This has
worked for us for five plus years. Again, if they
wanted something different, they should have talked about it and

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gotten a different place I was.

Speaker 8 (01:07:34):
And I'm assuming they go to the same kind of
same cabin. Yeah, that's just weird.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
The times that I've gone with like John and Sam
out to places, we just kind of looked there and like, okay,
you know, couples get kind of first Pick, then Sam
and then whoever else you know after that, and that's
kind of like the expectation of it. But this is
really weird. I don't know. And is it because of

(01:08:02):
the new person that came along that has caused all this?

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Yeah, well it's because Frank's boyfriend came along, but like
literally caused all this problem, like when they were all
the all the problems when they got there.

Speaker 8 (01:08:13):
Yeah, that makes me think of a deeper issue within
the friend group.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Yeah, I fought a little crazy trying to type out
realm assignments in a way that made sense. Lol. This
is the fifth version of this post. Update they get
their money back. I think that you need to ask
for your money. I think you need to talk to
your other friends, talk to your girlfriend about this, because

(01:08:37):
back there, no one, no one had your back there,
like you guys paid for more. And I think you
could have a conversation with Frank. But but yeah, he
needs to apologize.

Speaker 8 (01:08:46):
Frank's the new one, right, the one Frank. I would
definitely talk to Frank. Frank, Dude, that kind of wasn't cool.
Expect you to stay for the whole time. Kind of
bullied me into taking this and that didn't pay that much.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Yeah, speed up front update.

Speaker 8 (01:09:01):
Maybe maybe I should do something like this to you
to see if you'd ever be up front with me,
bully me, just like, do something like this until I
confront you, and then like she confronts me, like a
good job, and then I give you a little extra money.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
You were like, good job, this was all a tist.
Take the money kid to go buy yourself some nice
you passed update. I had some people ask so I
wanted to update. Thanks to everyone who commented. I realized
I needed a bit of distance from this group for
not having my back. Yeah. On the money issue, I
spent some time trying to work out the cost breakdown
since many people asked about the numbers. All prices have

(01:09:39):
been converted to US dollars. The total cost for the
seven night cabins day was a thousand and forty sorry,
a thousand and seven hundred and forty four dollars. Okay.
My girlfriend and I covered half of that three point
five nights, and the other half was split between Frank,
Liam and j Eva. Paid for gas. She drives a
van for work, so she drove us all up, which

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comes to about one hundred and ninety nine dollars. Ed
paid for three meals and snacks, which came to two
hundred and thirty dollars one hundred and fifty seven dollars
for the first meal and seventy three dollars for snacks
and two fast food runs. What everyone paid me four
hundred and thirty six dollars, Girlfriend four hundred and thirty
six dollars, Frank two hundred ninety point sixty seven dollars,

(01:10:22):
Liam two hundred ninety point sixty seven dollars, Jay another
two hundred ninety point sixty seven dollars, EVA one hundred
ninety nine dollars ED two thirty, so ED covered almost
the cost of one night, but it was significantly less
than my girlfriend and I paid for the Master. The
six of us have been going on. The six of
us has been going to the same cabin for five years,

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and before my girlfriend and I got together, she and
Eva used the Master. The others are more than welcome
to use the Master if they pay what my girlfriend
and I do, which I see now might not be
super fair to them since we're the only couple in
the group so that we can afford it more easily.
But I'm I mean, if they wanted, I don't think that. Yeah,
I don't think that's not fair. If like, I don't know,

(01:11:07):
I feel like, yeah, that doesn't mean like its two people,
come on, guys, go on, like many said to do.
I texted Frank and asked him to pay me and
my girlfriend for one night's day on the trip two
hundred and ninety dollars. It might have been a little
under but I didn't want to argue anymore, and my
girlfriend told me to sort this out and drop the issue.
Frank paid me a few days later and asked if
we could meet so he could explain what happened at

(01:11:29):
our local bomb. Okay, okay, at least he paid it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
So there's more behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
I was to see Ed there when my girlfriend and
I arrived. It took some time for the conversation to start,
but Ed eventually told us his relationship with his parents
had been rocky due to his spicy due to his identity.
A few months before the cabin trip, he brought Frank
home to meet them for the first time, and his
parents made them sleep in separate rooms. Ed said his

(01:11:56):
folks imply that he and Frank would be punted out
if they didn't. He said that when I refused to
let them use the master bedroom, it brought up those
bad feelings, and he misdirected his anger at me.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Okay, oh my gosh, you made it seem like your
parents were homophobic.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
They were, No, they weren't. Yeah, he said, the parents
like wouldn't let them sleep in the same room because
they wouldn't recognize their relationship.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
I thought it was my parents were used to be
in a different.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Room no, I think that they were being like, wait
right back, read back his parents show Oops, I am no.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
I was talking to him.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
His parents made them sleep in separate rooms. His ed said,
his folks imply that he and Frank would be punted
out if they didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
I didn't say anything about them not.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Well, I think he's implying. I think that he's implying
that there they weren't support of But regardless, really it
doesn't really matter whether or not it was, doesn't give
you any excuse to be like, oh, Pete, you were
being It made me feel like you were being homophobic
in this situation. Like one they were in the same room.

(01:13:02):
They were gonna be in the same room. They were
to be in separate breads, but like, I don't know,
push them together, dude, literally push them together.

Speaker 8 (01:13:08):
Yeah, uh, you were going to be in the same
room and his girlfriend or not your mom and dad.

Speaker 5 (01:13:13):
They're not your.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
Mom and dad. They're people who paid more for a
room you've chose that that does not give you, does
not give you a I don't totally buy the explanation,
nor would I not the full extent of it, but
I can understand how not being allowed to share a
bed might bring up bad memories frohim. That's not what happened.
For Frank's sake, I agreed to let it go and

(01:13:35):
told them I appreciated the apology, but I still need space.
I'm not ready to pick up where we left off.
My friends usually talk about taking another trip in November
at this time, but I think I'll find somewhere closer
to go with my girlfriend so I don't have to
deal with this group drama again. I'm still not entirely
over her not having my back either, so nothing's in

(01:13:56):
the works right now.

Speaker 8 (01:13:57):
Thanks Again, she seems to be just the people pleaser,
which I have come to the consensus that being a
people pleaser is manipulative.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
Yeah, I agree, I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
Oh wow, I got a lot there, Yeah, there are
a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
I'm trying to see if there are any comments, okay
that are irrelevant.

Speaker 8 (01:14:16):
I think I just I don't know. It's just I
feel like it's wrong that Frank put this on Ope,
Like what the heck? This isn't this isn't what it's
I'm not your parents, dude, Like, come on, we're friends.
We're supposed to have a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
At this, Like be an adult.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Yeah, separated.

Speaker 8 (01:14:34):
Come on, But there's a little bit, a little bit
more from Ope, some more comments to finish the story off.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
There is a little bit left. But yeah, I think
it seems like you've kind of solved this. It seems
like Frank's a little bit of a pushover when it
comes to Ed. But yeah, don't let Ed walk all
over you. He's new to the group. He doesn't get
to you and say whatever he wants.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Oh, tell him, tell Ed out of here, add them out.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Of here here. Yeah, no, not cool, not cool. Mary R.
Says it's a cop out for the behavior and you
need to have a combo with her. And everyone was tired,
but what they did was rude and childish. Yeah, it's
like everyone was tired, tired, but that went odd for
a couple of days, Like they they insisted on being
there for four days and.

Speaker 8 (01:15:26):
This is just like I was tired. Yeah, and then
they just kind of ignored each other. I don't know,
if I have a tip with my friends, I'm not
going to ignore them on a.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Trip for a week.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
Yeah, that's weird.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
That is weird. It really hard to do.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
It's so hard to do. It's so hard to do yeah,
response there oh. Nina Nilsen says it wasn't about not
sleeping together. It was about sleeping in the room you
pay for exactly as a queer. He's using the parent
thing as an excuse. Absolutely, he's using it as an
excuse because he just like came up with a thing
that would make him look better and would make make

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them feel bad for him. Of comments by op on
why his girlfriend didn't have his back, she told me
she was tired and that I should stop waffling on
the issue to make up my mind if I'm upset
about the room and want my money back, or just
let it go, because I was making the entire group uncomfortable.
We were friends in this group before we started dating.
It feels like she sometimes puts the good of group

(01:16:21):
above our relationship. It was a long day. We left
our city early in the morning, drove for almost the
whole day, ate dinner, and got to the cabin late
at night. She and everyone else told me they wanted
to sleep. How far away the cabin is sixteen hours total,
eight hours there and eight hours back. If his girlfriend
paid her share or didn't know it was that much,

(01:16:42):
she paid a portion, She's still at school, and I
covered a bit of her share. She knows how much
the room costs because she paid her part in full before.
Someone commented the apology is a lie. I might be
a huge idiot, but I'm not sure why he'd lie
about it to save face. I don't think he's trying
to make me see him in a better light, because
I made it pretty clear what I thought about him
when we argued on night one at the trip. I'm

(01:17:03):
not sure Ed knows exactly how much we spent. I
asked Frank directly for the money, and he paid without
fighting back. ED would probably know about Eva paying for gas,
but he might have assumed my girlfriend and I pay
a little bit more for the master, not almost fifty percent.
I won't be seeing him if he's at any social
things we do. I'm avoiding the group as a whole

(01:17:24):
right now. We like it because it's cheap and in
a nice area. The drive there is a pain in
the butt, but it's worked for five years. It sucks,
but this is probably the last time we'll go. Wow,
and that, folks, is the end of that story.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Yeah, you guys got any travel plans coming up?

Speaker 6 (01:17:41):
Me?

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
No, Just like oh, everyone else, everyone else in the chat.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
I mean I do in a month.

Speaker 4 (01:17:46):
I do going to Chicago about a month and a half,
month and a half.

Speaker 5 (01:17:53):
Riley's so excited for me, right y.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
I really don't want you to leave.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Don't leave.

Speaker 8 (01:17:57):
Kean has made my life so much better and I
don't want him to ever go.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
And I might cry, I might cry.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Don't worry, you have him.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
You said, Okay, I'm still gonna cry. But you said
a month, right, what month and a half? Month and
a half. Now you can leave. You can leave and go.
It's fine, we can. We can find replaces for you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
Really,

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