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Okay story Time wherever you get your podcasts. My dad
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found his biological parents, should he reach out to them?
This is answered a question should DNAGE results always be shared?
And it comes from eyes on Pies, who says, I'm
not sure this is the place to post this.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well, it's sure as the place to read.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
It, but I just want to get my excitement out somewhere,
so I figured that counts as getting off my chest.
As you would expect from my title. My dad male
fifty six, was adopted at birth. He was raised in
Eastern Canada and never really searched for his birth parents.
The people who raised him are his parents to him,
and he loves them very much. They've always been amazing
grandparents to my sister female nineteen and I male twenty two.
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All he had from his birth parents was a letter
which told him he was born out of love, but
they could not.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Support him when he was born.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
When my sister decided to get him a genetic test
for Christmas, it was purely with the intention to find
out what ethnicity we all are, and the thought of
finding his birth parents didn't even cross or mine.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Eventually, when we got his results, we were.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Surprised to find the names of two people with perfect
genetic matches to my dad. My dad had the option
to reach out to the parents, so he wrote them
each an email and just waited for their responses. Almost immediately,
his biological dad, who all called Jim not his real name, Reswanda.
He said how excited and happy he was to have
found my dad, and he was looking for him for
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so long. My dad, who was usually an emotionally reserved man,
was curled up on the couch grinning as he was
texting Jim for the first time. I was still in
shock from the news, but so happy to see my dad,
even happier than when I graduated university. Soon thereafter, he
also received a message from his biological mom, Debbie, also
not her real name. By talking to both of them,
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my dad learned the story of his birth, and I
think that it's absolutely wild.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
See.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Debbie is the daughter of an Australian mining engineer, and
they all moved to Canada for his work when she
was in high school. Later on, they moved to the Midwest,
where she met Jim at the age of seventeen. They
were high school sweethearts and were thinking of marriage after
they graduated, but then Debbie got pregnant. This being the sixties,
this was a huge deal. Her dad was furious and
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sent her back to Canada to give birth and arranged
a private adoption as he knew of a couple who
were trying to have a kid my grandparents now. Once
she gave birth, she was able to let Jim know
that she was sent back to Australia. They never saw
each other again. For the next forty years.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
The Bio parents were split up and never saw each
other again.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yes, she was like shipped off to Canada like pop
his baby out. She was sent back to Australia after giving.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Birth, so she was separated from the baby in Canada,
then moved back to.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Australia, basically exiled. Jim apparently was only able to move
on once he received a letter over five years later
from Debbie saying that she got married. Eventually, he got
married to and they moved to the West Coast, but
his wife got into a terrible car crash and lost
the use of both legs and one arm, so they
were never able.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
To have kids.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Debbie had three daughters in Australia, oldest of which is
seven years younger than my dad. They saw each other
for the first time around twelve years ago as they
reconnected on Facebook and Debbie happened to be taking a
trip to the West Coast of America. Both Jim and
Debbie had always wanted to keep my Dad and so
they tried for decades to find him, but is apparently
one of the hardest to find adoption information, especially since
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my dad only received his birth certificate at his baptism,
so their names were not on it. Jim had essentially
given up trying to find my dad until genetic tests
become popular. He asked Debbie to take every single one,
and he did the same about five years ago in
the hopes that one day my dad would take one.
When he received my Dad's message, he immediately wrote to Debbie,
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I found him. Since then, we have had several calls
with Jim and his wife and they are absolutely lovely.
We are their only family since they don't have kids,
and I couldn't be happy. At the end of the month,
we'll be flying to the West Coast to meet them.
This is a DNA test actually like coming out great
and also DNA tests are low key, like family extension bags.
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It's been harder to talk to Debbie as Australia is
so many hours ahead of us, but she's also so
kind in an absolute joy to talk to. I haven't
met my three new aunts yet, but apparently one lives
in London. It's crazier to think that I might have
been a few kilometer away from her of the few
times that I visited. I also have five new younger cousins.
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A couple of them are huge fans of Japanese culture,
so they're ecstatic to hear that they have half Japanese cousins.
My mom is Japanese Canadian, so my sister and I
are both half We hope to visit them one day
in Australia, but we might all meet up in Japan
next year.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Simply the happiest DNA story we read, so Obie says,
I don't know how to end this.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I'm still processing everything. It's absolutely incredible to have my
family grow so much, but also a little overwhelming. I'm
so happy for my for Jim, for Debbie, and I'm
so excited to get to know them better. I hope
I get to meet my new cousin soon too. I
feel so incredibly lucky that this has happened. Seemingly against
all odds. So my dad was initially raised Francophone, meaning
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French speaking, so it's a miracle that they even speak
the same language. Anyways, thank you so much for taking
the time to read through this, and my apologies for
how long this post ended up being. I might post
an update after I meet Jim and his wife. I
hope y'all have a wonderful day and there is an
update one month later. Let me read this quick relevant
comment and then I want.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
To discuss the question for this episode.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
So sponge Jake says, the visual of your dad curled
up on the couch grinning as he texted Jim brought tears.
Congratulations to your dad, your family, and your new extended family.
Such joyful news. Opie says, thank you so much. I
might have been crying a little a bit while typing
this out. But we have a question to answer. Should
DNA results always be shared?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And listen?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
So fi, I'm about to go completely contrary to all
of the good feelings that we're having right now and
just take a big, bat, stinky dump all over it.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I think it usually always comes out.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I don't think they ever keep it a secret. I
think sometimes they're like, just should tell them, and then
they do.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
If it involves cheating, I think you should tell. But
let's get into this update here. First of all, thank
you so much to everyone who loves such kind and
heartfelt comments on my first post. It's incredibly It's been
incredible hearing all of your stories. To those of whom
who are concerned we would abandon my grandparents that I
grew up with, that is most definitely not the case.
They were the people I grew up with, and I
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absolutely love them to bits. Although only my grandmother is
still with us, all the incredible times I've had with
our growing up are so much more important than blood,
and I can't comprehend the stories I read where people
forget about their adoptive parents or grandparents when they find
their biological I won't recap my previous post here because
I'm lazy, hah. So we just got back from visiting
Jim and his wife. The big visit had happened who.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
All call Mary, not her real name on the West.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Coast, and it was one of the the best experiences
of my life. We spent a week in their city
and got to experience so much with them. Our first
time meeting in person was very emotional and felt very surreal.
We spent the whole day looking through my dad's and
our old photos, basically catching Jim up on everything that
he missed out on the past fifty six years. We
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got to see so many of his and Mary's old
photos too, which was very cool. We went to a
park near their house and on the walk I heard
Jim whisper my son with a massive smile across his face.
Throughout the week, we explored their city and saw so
many cool sits and tried so much delicious food. Mary
knows her city so well and it was great to
see her favorite spots all around the city, from food
carts to gardens to museums. We all went to an
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incredible Japanese American museum and Jim and Mary absolutely loved it.
They were very keen to learn about the internment during
World War Two and said they knew a bit about
it before, but now it feels personal. We went on
two walks with Jim. Mary wasn't able to come because
she was in a wheel chair. It's so cool to
have such an active, outdoorsy grandfather who was able to
go on long hikes. He taught us some forging tips
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and told us stories from when he used to go
camp for years on end.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Both he and Mary are.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Very spiritual, so he told us great stories from meditation
retreats that they've done. He's even tried psychedelics, so he's
definitely the cool grandpa. I won't go into precise details
of places we went, but it was great exploring such
a cool part of the world with amazing people. We
were all very sad when the trip was over and
we had to leave. I've gained two new grandparents on
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the West Coast, and I couldn't be happier. And they
said that they've gained two grandchildren. I'm so glad that
they see us as such. Mary told me her greatest
regret in life was not being able to have children
and grandchildren. This has been such a transformative time in
our lives, and I think it's incredible just how many
people are so much happier now because my sister just
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happened to get my dad a DNA test.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
This is the beginning of our.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Relationship with our new grandparents, and I'm so excited. Now
I have to figure out a way to get to
Australia to meet Debbie. Whenever that happens, maybe i'll make
another update. Until then, I hope all of you have
a lovely day, and thank you so much for taking
the time.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Wow, what a beautiful story.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
This has been an amazing positive story.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
My parents planned to leave almost everything to my disabled brother,
so I cut them off.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
That's your brother, Come on, you're being petty all right.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
My twenty four female brother, thirty two Mal is a
failure to launch.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
What does that mean?
Speaker 5 (10:31):
He's never been very smart. He did badly in school
and never went to college. He tried two different trade schools,
welding a mechanic, but he basically flunked out of both.
He works at a gas station now. By the way,
this comes from Away Jaguar twenty eight on the R.
Sosh Okay story. Times upbrut it. My brother and I
are our parents' only children. They always treated us relatively
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equal until adulthood. They've always insisted we earn our way.
They refuse to pay for our college or anything. I
joined the military at seven, got an associate's degree while
in and my gi Bill went towards my bachelor's. I'm
working towards my master's now. My husband and I bought
a house and have done well for ourselves. My parents, however,
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fully paid for my brother to try twice in grades
trade school. They've given him cash when he was behind
on rent and countless loans. They support him cosplaying as
an adult. Meanwhile, they'll never paid for my wedding education nothing.
I don't really care so much that they didn't give
me money, but the disparity and how they treated me
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versus my brother. Our parents are now in their sixties,
and while they aren't that old, they're both bad in
health and probably won't live another ten years.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Oh P, you're like the most negative person.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
They just recently started working on their will and notified
us that they are leaving almost everything to my brother,
while they want me to be their medical power of attorney,
manage their estate, etc. I told my parents to give
my brother everything and that I'm completely done with them.
They told me to have some grace and understand the
fact that he isn't very capable and needs her support
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even after they're gone. Okay, first off, what are the
conditions that the brother is in.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I need to know.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Does this guy like have autism to reds or like
some kind of like learning disability, mental disability.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It could be, we just don't know the full capacity
of it.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
My mother had a doctor's appointment this morning and asked
me for a ride since she medically can't work. I
told her to ask her favorite child or pay for
an uber. Things have been tense and hostile. My brother
called me to apologize and asked me not to be
mad at him, and I told him that I'm not
mad at him. I'm mad at her parents for not
treating us equally and he did nothing wrong. Am I
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the a hole? I'm meant to put disabled in quotation marks?
My mother refers to my brother as it'sabled, even though
he isn't. She's had him tested for every kind of
learning disability there is. He's just below average IQ. She
thinks that still counts as a disability when it isn't.
And we have some freaking comments to set OPI straight. Maybe,
but he's just dumb basically? Is that it infoe needed?
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Why can't your brother live with them, help them take
them to appointments? Seems like the least he can do?
Can he drive? Is he disabled or just lazy? OPI replied?
They don't want to ask him. He's forgetful and they
probably wouldn't been able to rely on him all anyways,
comment to he does not sound disabled to me if
he went to two different trade schools welding, a mechanic,
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just lazy. Odds are if he gets some money, it'll
not last him long. Then it'll be looking for you
to pay his bills. OPI replied, he's not disabled, but
he's very unintelligent and has poor critical thinking skills. He
doesn't really understand how to manage money at all, despite
having been taught how Another reply, if it's his IQ,
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that it's that low, it's intellectual disability, and IQ below
seventy five is considered intellectually impaired. It doesn't excuse the
implied favoritism, OPI responds. When they tested us was one
thirty one, I believe, and his was around eighty. It's
been so many years, I'm having a hard time remembering.
It's definitely above the cutoff for being considered intellectually disabled,
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because I remember them being surprised that he scored above it.
Oh man. And then another reply, that's pretty low and
maybe right, he just isn't capable of normal adulting and
he needs significantly more help. We have updates a little
bit more about the brother. Just seems like he's not
intellectually all there.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah, I mean he's right around the cusp. And again,
I understand the favoritism that that's not an excuse, but
I feel like you're looking at it that in a
different way. I get it. You're like, oh, I'm not
mad at you brother, but I kind of seem like
you're mad at your brother too. You're definitely mad at
your parents, which makes sense, it's fair, but you like, oh,
they have ten years to live whatever those are your parents.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Yeah, come on, she's just furious. And it seems like
the brother's nice too, he apologized. I appreciate that. Well,
not like that, I appreciate that, but like this just
shows his character.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, like he's not being selfish. He's like, I'm not
asking for this, but like I'm sorry that I cannot,
you know, do things my own, or like I keep
screwing up, like I wish I couldn't. I wish there
was a better way or easier way, but sometimes it
just happens. Update.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
So the consistence on my post was a bit of
a mixed bag. I sat down with my parents, and
I wanted to give an update and answer some stuff.
My brother is actually not disabled. He just has a
low IQ just over eighty. You need an IQ under
seventy where I live to be considered disabled to qualify
for any sort of benefits. My parents have babied him
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from a young age because he wasn't as smart as
the other kids, had low self esteem because of that,
and was quick to give up on things when they
seem too hard. Ah, this is just a failure on
your parents.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Half one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
He doesn't okay.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
On his own. He works and pays his bills most
of the time, he drives, and lives with a roommate.
Onto the update, I sat down with my parents and
explained that I have always felt like they've treated me
worse than my brother. They always emphasized to me that
as an adult, you need to support yourself and figure
out things on your own. I had to join the
military at seventeen because I knew they'd kicked me out
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when I was eighteen. My parents never offered me any
support outside of raising me as a child. They didn't
buy my husband and I a wedding gift. They didn't
offer much of anything. Meanwhile, they brag about having over
a million in the bank and having succeeded from nothing.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
What now, this is different? So the main ale here
are the parent.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Also, if like a million is going to the brother,
I feel like all the money should go to you.
But in that will there's like a condition that you
have to make sure your brother's okay.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I feel like things would be so much more differently
if the parents helped out a little bit in this,
like the relationship with the family with Opie's brother would
be so much better than how it is now. But
that's again on the parents. The parents really just don't
understand what they're doing.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
They really don't. Meanwhile, they paid to put my brother
through two trade schools that he felled out of, offered
him money to start his own business. They've always built
him out, even when he was short on rent. For me,
it's not much about the money, but about the disparity
and how we've been treated. It's obvious that they love
and care about him more because they're willing to do
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these things for him and not me. But despite them
not being there for me, I've still done really well
in life. I told my parents about all of this,
and while they're interrupting me and talking over me the
whole time. They told me I'm not entitled to a
dime when they die, and that I'm an adult and
I can handle myself. They just weren't understanding or even
caring about my point. They told me I need to
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step up treat them better, and that it's wrong of
me to not take my sick mother to the doctor
or take care of her because of money. Eventually, I
just gave up on trying to talk about my feelings.
They just don't care. I told them that they're adults,
They're not entitled to be anything for me. Just like
how they're never required to help me, I'm not required
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to help them. I told them to completely remove me
from their will. I'm not willing to be their a
state executor, medical power of attorney, nothing. I don't want
a dime from them at this point, and I suggest
that they spend all the money they have saved over
the years to pay for a really good nursing home
and the stay executor because I'm no longer willing to
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do anything for them. My mother was floored and asked
if I really put my parents in a nursing home.
I asked if they really let their seventeen year old
daughter join them in the army to get spicially harassed
by other older men in order to go to school
without taking on a huge debt. And if you want
to hear more crazy filled stories just like this, go
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to your favorite podcast platforms. Search up Okay Storytime and
we're there on Spotify, Apple, just with stories crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Like this, even crazier sometimes.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
And we got a little bit more. But her parents
were never really there for her.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
No, this is a failure on the parents. I now
fully understand where Op's at. Op seems like she still
doesn't have that much as that meant towards her brother,
which is fine because he didn't do anything wrong. He
just it's just not his fault really, just he tried.
It's on the parents. The parents failed at a young
age for both of them, and this is the sins
of their actions.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Yeah. Lastly, my parents cried and yelled at me and
I left and that's that, I guess, And I kind
of feel relieved, like a massive weight is off my shoulders.
I have a wonderful husband, we owned a nice home.
I'm getting ready to start my working.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I've heard that Opie has a wonderful home and a
wonderful husband at least three or four times in the story. See,
like I said, at least you have something to cherish.
Your brother really doesn't.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
I'm getting ready to start working on my master's degree
and we're thinking about maybe having a baby soon. I
no longer have to worry about dealing with my parents.
They're adults. They can deal with their own problems. It's
like I've done with mine, and yeah, that's it. I'm
not sure if that's the update everyone's wanted. And Opie
replied to a comment, my brother is not a terrible guy,
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makes bad joices sometimes, but at the end of the day,
he's still my older brother and he tries to be
good to me. I would have cut him off without
a good reason. And Opie's not a complete monster, but
no parents are.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Opie, you have a wonderful life. I would say keep
close to your brother because that's going to be your
only family that you have. It seems like coming up
pretty soon, so just make amends with him and see
what you can do for him and what you guys
can do. I feel like the no contact with your family.
That makes perfect sense. You can do that. I refuse
to co sign my sister's mortgage because my parents went
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behind my back. It's always about the money, spider Man,
I twenty eight female, have been busting my butt for
years to say for my own house. I work in software,
so I make decent money, but it still takes forever
to build up a good down payment. Meanwhile, my younger sister,
twenty five female, is in grad school with barely any credit.
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By the way, this counts from user fancy a Panda
and you can submit your stories on the r slash
Okay storytime supparate it. So our parents, both mid fifties,
found a house near them and decided she needs it.
They made an offer without telling me, and now the
deal only goes through if I co sign. Oh, okay
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deal or no deal. In this one, the problem, I
had no clue they'd do this. My parents basically drop
a bomb. You have the best credit score, co sign
so your sister can get the house, honey. They also
hinted I should chip in for the down payment because
you've got the money. If I co sign, I'll be
on the hook if my sister can't pay. She's still
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in school, has debt and zero backup plan. The bank
might also reject my future mortgage application, since they'll see
I'm already tied to another loan. But my parents say
I'm selfish and forgetting my family values. My sister's calling
me a monster for leaving her stranded, and my mom
threatened to cut off any future financial help like wedding
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money if I do not help right now. Some relatives
think it's insane my parents tried to rope me into
this after they already made the offer. Others say, hey,
I should just do it for the family's sake. I
feel guilty, but also mad they put me in this spot.
Am I the ahole for protecting my own finances? Or
are they wrong for strong arming me into co signing
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a mortgage? I never wanted it in the first place.
And we have an edit. I'm actually adopted LMO forgot
to mention in my confused and angry state. My parents
adopted me when I was very young because they been
struggling to conceive. A few years later, they had my
sister naturally, which was a huge deal to them. She
was their miracle baby. Ever since, it felt like my
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role in the family became the older, adopted one, while
she was the golden child who could do no wrong,
so we got favoritism. Now. Growing up, I was expected
to pitch in more, be more responsible, and generally look
after for my sister. I worked my butt off in school,
staged scholarships, and eventually landed a good job in software.
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All the while, I felt like my family mostly saw
me as the fallback option in case anyone needed financial
or emotional support. Now that I'm actually building my own life,
saving for a house, focusing on my career, I'm realizing
how my success just makes me look like a bigger
piggy bank than my parents. The more independent I become,
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the clear it is that I need to separate myself
from constant guilt trips and the unspoken expectation that I'll
always bail them or my sister out. I love them,
but I can't keep sacrificing my own future to maintain
a dynamic where I'm never the priority. So thank you
for the wake up call update to come and make
some comments. One thing I didn't get to mention is
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Mom threatened that will like will no longer financially provide
for you. Great it seems like you could provide for yourself.
You're like, you know what, I can provide for myself. Thanks,
and you can use.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
That money for my sister.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Yeah, go for it?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
You know what, I'm unadopted. We have some relative top comments.
Why didn't Op's parents co sign the loan? Op? They
have financial strains and don't want to incure that risk
and don't have the best credit I have. I wonder
what why didn't Ope's parents help her with buying a house? Op?
We are at odds due to another family issue. Their
commentary says, So your sister is a golden child and
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you are not. Don't co sign the loan. Tell your
parents to give your sister the wedding money, and since
your finances won't be a dumpster fire as they would
if you co signed the loan, you'll pay for your
own wedding and will be sure to send them a
picture since obviously they won't be there. Tell them how
much do you appreciate them freeing you from having to
care for them as age, since that this will fall
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one hundred percent on your sister, not the Ahle. But
your family is really toxic. Op says, probably something I
should have said, I was blinded by my confusion and
forgot to mention I was adopted not as a baby,
but around the age of six. Was always different and
never bothered to reconnect with my bio mom. I knew
I was an outsider, but as I get older and
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somewhat overshadowed by my younger sister with my successful career,
I think I created resentment between my parents and myself.
So I think it's hitting a breaking point and it's
really showing. We have a commentary too, Absolutely, do not
co sign. Not the a hole. If you refuse, let
your mom not pay for the wedding. If she's threatening
now she will again in the end she probably won't,
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but that's not the main reason not to co sign.
The main reason is there is a huge chance you'll
be in debt for a house that is not even yours.
Smart and come to her number three terrible idea, Why
does she need a house right now if she has
barely any credit and she's in mid grad school, an
apartment sounds like what she needs. Another commentary says, lock
down your credit score and make sure they can't use
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your information anyway. My sister had hers trash by an
x because he would take out the loans in her name.
I have seen parents do this as well, regardless of
the child's age or consent. And now we have an update.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Do not co sign.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Yeah, everyone in the world's saying, don't do it.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
The internet selling you don't do it. The Internet's always right.
The Internet never loses update. Okay, So here's where I'm at.
I'm absolutely not co signing my sister's mortgage, and I'm
definitely not pitching in for any down payment. This whole
thing was the final push I needed to realize how
messed up our family dynamic has been four ages. I mean,
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I've always known it was bad, but having them basically
try to volunteer me and my finances without even asking
just cross the line. I cannot ignore anymore. I'm done.
I've decided to cut ties. I'm already in the process
of dropping any financial entanglements we might have, cutting off
shared accounts, making sure they can't use my information for anything,
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and basically scrubbing them from my finances. My job lets
me work remotely, so I'm planning to move out of
the States soon. That was always in the back of
my mind, but now it feels urgent. I need space, distance,
and a real shot in a normal life without the
constant guilt trips. I'm also locking down my credit, raising it,
changing passwords everything. I'm not taking any chances that someone
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might try to open a line of credit in my name.
I've seen enough horror stories and I'm not about to
become one. Thankfully, I'm not alone in all of this.
My close friends have been incredible. They're basically my real
family at this point, helping me pack, offering me a
place to stay if I need it, reminding me that
I'm not crazy for wanting to protect my future. They've
been the biggest source of support and I'm honestly so
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grateful to have them in my corner. So yeah, that's it.
I'm not sighting, I'm leaving.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I'm done. If my family wants to blow up at
me for abandoning them, so be it. I've got to
look out for myself, my credit, and my sanity. Here's
hoping things only get better from here. Thank goodness, you
made this situation so easy for yourself. Everyone who commented
their two cents are amazing people, and I thank you
all for your support. While I'm dealing with this truly
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think you OP clarifies the timeline on when she was
adopted into the family. Honestly, it was not as dramatic
as it sounds. Were three years of pardon age, I'm older,
but my adoption was finalized around the time my sister
was a toddler age. The process itself had started earlier,
and it wasn't all done in a day. My parents
had me placed with them before it was legally official.
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By the time the paperwork went through when I was six,
she was already three. It's just a messy timeline that
happens when adoption, fertility struggles, et cetera. I forget all
the details sometimes. My apologies and on too. Update two.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Oh boy, dude, something that just popped into my head.
You think as parents financially manipulate OP because they may
have like her Social Security number.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
That's why I think she's freezing everything. She's doing the
right thing because she knows like they do have chance.
That's why she's like, nope, nope, nope, freezing everything until
I'm out, which is very smart. Update number, do discovered
a credit card in my name? Okay, so I was
really hoping the update post would be the last one,
but here we are. I didn't expect it to turn
(28:50):
into a bigger mess. After deciding not to co sign
the mortgage for my sister, I started taking extra precautions
with my finances, locking down my credit pulling my fone
credit reports like you all suggested. I wanted to be
absolutely sure no one could use my information without me knowing.
That's when I stubbled on an active credit card I
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didn't open. Some of you guys warned me. I guess
I wasn't fast enough to lock down. It's been around
for a couple of years now. It was being used,
but I'm assuming my parents wanted to keep it from
me with the intention of using it as leverage. As
of yesterday, the statement's show purchases that look a lot
like household expenses. You're not buying a house. I wonder
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who in your family's buying a house. The building address
on file points right back to my parents's home. I
confront with them via text because I'm currently a couple
hours away with a close friend. They claimed I benefited
from it from these expenses, which doesn't make much sense
because they never helped me with setting up my own apartment. Also,
it explains why they assumed I'd be okay with co signing.
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Turns out they've been using my credit for a while.
Oh yeah, because remember their credits are not that great.
You know, his credits really good? Yours op. Needless to say,
I feel completely betrayed. This wasn't some tiny oversight. My
parents have been quietly using my name to fund their expenses.
Now I'm talking to a professional to figure out whether
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I should dispute the charges or close the account outright
without tanking my own credit in the process. Yes, smart.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
It's nerve racking.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Realizing how they went behind my back even before this
mortgage bs. At this point, I'm even more determined to
move out of the state to get distance from all
of this. My job is thankfully remote friendly, so relocating
won't wreck my career. My friends have been amazing offering support,
so I don't completely lose my mind. If it weren't
for them, I'd be a mess right now. And there's
(30:43):
no real good segue. But by the way, you can
listen to full episodes with stories just like this. Just
go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app
and just search Okay story Time we have another relevant
update and could have finish the story, but Riley, anything
else to add.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Dude, this is scared.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
I just like I can't even imagine my parents doing
this to me.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
The parents were like, we adopted her because she's going
to be very, very successful, and we're gonna use that
as leverage. We did a bad job, but we'll use
her to be a good job. I'm not trying to
be vindictive or over dramatic. I just need to protect myself.
The trust is gone, and I don't see how I
can maintain a healthy relationship with people who thought this
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was okay. I would also bring this up to your sister, like, hey,
because guess what if they can do this to me,
so they're probably gonna do it to you if you're successful.
It's sad and I wish you didn't come to this,
but I've got to prioritize my own future. I'll let
you know if anything else make sure happens, but for now,
I'm focused on fully separating my finances from my family,
getting ready to move, and making sure I don't pay
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the price credit wise for something I never agreed to.
It's scary, but I'm hoping it'll be worth it to
finally have a life and a credit score of my own.
And we have some relevant comments comments. You're one, well,
if they open credit in your name, that is considered
an identity theft. You should file a police report. Let
the chips fall where they have me a and that
looks like a couple of comments also state police reports.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Oh my gosh, wow, that's gross.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, get away from your family. You don't need them.
You were very smart, you did your best and they
stull gotcha.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
But you live on.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
You're gonna be fine. But that's the end of that story.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
My fiance's parents criticized me NonStop, so they're not invited
to my wedding.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
What in loss?
Speaker 5 (32:27):
My now fiance, Jim, and I have always been rocky
with his parents. I have no contact with my family
due to abuse, and met Jim's parents at a very
uncertain and scary time for me. By the way, this
comes from Angel of Music five in the artsash Okay
story tom soeu abreut it. So they never particularly liked
me and thought I was weird because of how nervous
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I was. However, I had a good reason. Jim still
lived with them at the time, and I heard a
lot about how controlling they were. His dad had some
issue with looking at inappropriate content and lying about it
in the past, so I won't fully go into that,
but basically never took accountability for it. Jim's mom, Becky,
not only enabled him, but projected onto Jim and became
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hyper controlling in his teenage years. She assumed he would
do the same thing just as he was mal and
didn't let him watch any movies where a woman wore
tight clothes. Even cartoons allowed and was not allowed because
Jasmine's design, and it even got to the point where
Happy Feet was banned because penguins moved.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Whostanly, what what is this story that we're reading?
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Jim was also not allowed to have Instagram or Facebook
until he was eighteen for fear he might see inappropriate pictures.
You're just like holding back a crazy animal. This same
restrictions were not placed on his sister. Jim's first relationship,
which happened when he was eighteen, ended because the girl
could not stand how awful Becky was. She grounded him
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from seeing her a week because he posted a picture
of them kissing. Jim was stuck obey because he wasn't
financially able to move out, and was still caught in
the process of realizing how extreme this was. When the
girl broke up with him, His mom refused to admit
that she had a role in it and just ignored it,
while he struggled with severe depression for several months and
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later told him he had hurt the family, spending a
lot of time in his room and trying to process everything.
I met Jim through my family's business. We had become
best friends and then fell in love. He helped me
break out of and gain independence another story, and we've
been together ever since. When I met his family, Becky
was as hard on me as she had been on
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his first girlfriend, but it was bad enough. She criticized
every move I made. Was always behind my back. I
talked too much, didn't talk enough, didn't make enough contact.
Did it look like I was listening. There was always
a problem. When Jim tried to stick up for me,
she would just overrule him and insist she was right.
If we tried to explain she was making me nervous,
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she got offended because she wasn't doing anything to make
me nervous. I was just trying to act like she
was my mother. Her other biggest issue was with my clothes.
She's extremely picky about what women should wear, especially curvier women.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Well not Jasmin. Come on, she's back to Jasmine from Aladdin.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
I wasn't even allowed to wear anything below my collarbone
in her house because I would be tempting her struggling
husband to look I am curvy with a big bust,
big hips, and she didn't particularly like that. Jim chose
a curvy girl at all. Maybe insecure she is. My
button leggings was a problem, but they always poke phone
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at me for wearing skirts, which I like to do.
I have chronic pain conditions that make jeanes really uncomfortable
to wear, so a lot of times I at a
loss to what they wanted from me. I of course
dressed the way I wanted outside of her home, but
she would see my Facebook photos and complain. I thought
about unfriending her, but that would have caused so much offense.
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I didn't want to put Jim through that. He was
already dealing with getting treated badly by his sister, unfairly
by his dad, and trying to juggle college and getting
a second job to be able to move out and
I just wanted to be there as little drama as possible,
just until we could get a place together. We also
started to notice her rules were very inconsistent. Jim's sister, Sidney,
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would wear things I definitely wouldn't be permitted to wear
in Becky's house.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah, because guess what, Dad's not going to be tempted
with Cindy's daughter, but you are not.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Becky indicated this was because Cindy was more petite. This
made it clear her problem wasn't even with my clothing style.
It was with my body, which made me very uncomfortable.
Clothes are one thing, but I can't change the size
and shape of my hips. And so moving forward a
little bit to when Cindy began dating a guy, we
expected her to go through what Jim and I went
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through upon introduction, but they didn't. Becky fell all over
Sidney's boyfriend, welcomed him with open arms, made up cute
nicknames for him, and literally would gaze at him while
we sat at the table.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
The double standard. I wonder what mister Dad's saying in this.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
Jim and I figured she was living vicariously through Sydney.
Were just planed, liked him because she was always showed
signs of preferring Sydney to Jim. She didn't like any
girl Jim ever was interested in, but absolutely adored Sidney's guy.
Another note, she had an issue with everything with me,
but Sidney's guy was a different religion than her. Based
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on all Becky's opinions and views, that should have been
a huge problem, but she didn't seem to care. In
the slightest. Jim was really hurt by the difference. We
weren't allowed to do anything other than hold hands around them.
If we hugged or put her arms out to one another.
Becky would complain and tell Jim we needed to act
like friends. But Sidney could straight up slap her guys
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but in the kitchen, and Becky acted like it was cute.
This is gross that in a mix of other things.
Blew up and Jim and I put a deposit down
on an apartment. Of course, holy heck. Blew up at
the prospect of Jim living with me unmarried, but Becky
realized he was serious and seemed to calm down out
of worry she might lose a relationship. After moving out,
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things got better. We saw them about once a month
for holidays instead of every Sunday. We all got along better.
They seemed genuinely happy to see us. For about two months,
Sydney began pulling her entitled crap again, Jim's dad began
being overly authoritarian, and Becky started nitpicking again. It didn't
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get far before the big issue started. Jim does a
lot of theater and we got involved with the production
of Macbeth. Jim was co directing and I was Lady Macbeth.
Jim adored Shakespeare and this was a big deal, but
it also became a very stressful process. We got stuck
putting together costumes last minute that we didn't know would
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be our responsibility. And we had been hold a great
flashy red formal gown for me to wear in the
banquet scene. I found the highest quality one I could
afford that still had a full skirt and wasn't stretchy
and cheap, and it was off the shoulder and showed
some cleavlage. I asked Jim if it was okay since
his mom would come to the show. He said, I
really don't care. They've come to my show where girls
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wore low cut stuff. Before they'll complain I don't have
to plan my show around their opinions.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
I wore the dress.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
They came to the show and walked out at intermission.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
These people are so like Pg. Thirteen.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
I don't understand why just because the dad had a
problem doesn't mean like op has a problem, Like.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Come on, I got a problem with Becky, Becky, come.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
On and eat these fists. The entire cast was shocked.
I only wore the dress for fifteen minutes on a
tall stage from thirty feet away from them. It wasn't
that bad. Everyone was extremely supportive of Jim, which was great,
but we knew it wasn't over yet. The fact is
his mom was willing to walk out of the middle
of a show Jim directed when she knew how much
theater means to him, thelor to me. When she called
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him a few days later, she was self righteous and accusatory,
calling him a bad boyfriend for letting me go on
stage like that and claiming he did it on purpose.
Jim told her it was literally the best one we
could find, and she said she didn't believe him. He
began pointing out all of her inconsistency, how she still
watches Titanic Pearl Harbor because she likes them, and how
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she didn't leave other family events when girls were dressed
in lower cut stuff than me. It was just because
it was me. She began gaslighting and denying. She said
those things, said she was perfectly justified to leave the show,
and they were wrong to have a problem with it.
She said, we were choosing to take offense when she
was just speaking truth. Jim told her, yes, them leaving
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was a consequence of our actions, but us having a
problem was a consequence of theirs, and needed to put
herself in our shoes and take some account of it.
Ended with nothing getting resolved. A few days later, I
ran across a very good article about how society treats
women when men look at them in gross ways, how
we need to stop transferring the shame to the women,
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and remember that even in the Bible Jesus said to
pluck out your eye if you're looking at a woman
with lustful thoughts, and not to tell the woman to
change her clothes. I reshared the article because I liked it.
Q Becky blowing up publicly on the post about what
about the her wife of the man who has to
see him look at inappropriate women. Why does no one
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care about her? I replied as politely as I could,
pointing out that that wasn't the topic of the particular post,
and that there were plenty of resources of wives of
men who struggle therapy, church groups, support groups, et cetera,
while mainly pointing fingers at women who get dejeptified, many
of whom don't even know they're being looked at, or
(41:59):
like me, getting objectified no matter how we dress, I
get hit on a work when I'm wearing a black polo.
Becky continued on berating a lecture, and I snapped back,
telling her I was tired of her criticism and I'm
perfectly within my rights to share my opinion on the subject,
considering she does that constantly and I never rate her publicly.
When I disagree, we sitch to texting and continue arguing
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for a few texts. Jim's dad finally showed himself in
a few nasty texts to Jim as well, which was
bold considering his past behavior, because their entire issue for
the family, and he's never apologized. This family's horrible.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
I'm out of this family.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
I think that Becky is a Christian. How can you
live life with this much bitter and hate your heart? Really, like,
this is crazy to me. People deal with stuff, people
struggle with sin, Like, girl, you gotta cope a different way. Man,
this is crazy.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Every woman's the devil.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
If I tell.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
You not to think about an elephant, what are you
gonna think about? No, you're gonna think about elephants. What
you need to do if you're a Christian, you need
to think about God and love Jesus more in this case.
But it just seems like she's like, no, no, no,
instead of like looking at something else. If you was
like don't look at this, don't look at this, you're
gonna look at it. It's gonna make it worse. Rather
think about and do other things.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Becky is just thinking about Op's curves and how Becky
can never be what Op is because Becky's husband never
looks at her the way that ever looks at Op.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
Then, without giving me time to respond, Becky texted Jim
and told him she was cutting contact until we had
a change of heart. Jim was furious and sent them
each a final message detailing all the crap they did
again and gaslit him about for years and said maybe
some distance would be beneficial. We had her own little
nose stress Thanksgiving, and then Jim proposed to me. It
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had been well known that he was going to propose,
but Jim didn't reach out or tell his family when
he was going to except for his grandmother who lives
out of state. His family said nothing, didn't reach out anything,
which was pretty normal for them, as they always refuse
to acknowledge our dating anniversaries or any smaller couple milestones
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in the past. Then, just before Christmas, Becky reached out.
She told Jim a package had been accidentally delivered to
their house and cheerfully invited him to come over and
they'd love to see him accidentally.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
Jim was even angrier at this because not only were
they not acknowledging this milestone in his life, not acknowledging
me at all, they were just acting like nothing had
happened and things should just pop back into normal. And
if you want the opposite of normal, you need to
go to your favorite podcast platform, search up Okay, storytime
and listen to stories just like this. We got tons
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far from normal.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
We got a little bit more.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
But this family is ridiculous and crazy.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
They already did the thing. We're like, we're gonna cut contact.
You're like, okay, bye, great, you ripped off the band
aid for.
Speaker 5 (44:51):
Us, great, Thank you appreciate it. I didn't want to
talk to you anyways.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
They're the type of people that you cannot change. It's
just the I'm always right, you're always wrong kind of thing.
And that's what Becky is. She's like, whatever I think
is right and what everyone else thinks is wrong.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
It's just crazy.
Speaker 5 (45:05):
He told his mom, don't think that would be a
good idea, since I haven't had a change of heart.
She responded by saying she didn't know what he was
talking about and trying to rephrase her contact cutting text.
He proceeded to ignore her since gaslighting is such a
pattern and there's no talking to her when she does that.
He hasn't responded and doesn't feel ready to reach out,
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and they haven't said anything else. Our wedding is set
for October, and the say of the dates are going
out in March, so they have three months to shape
up or they will not be invited. Neither of us
really want them. There a case of love them but
don't like them. For Jim and a genuine dislike for me,
But of course if they make nice, we will invite them.
But there's going to have to be accountability and acceptance
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of our alternate views. And we seriously don't see that happening.
Absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
I don't see that happening either. Or it's fake, like
they just come and then they'll say something and you're like, okay,
well you tried. Do we try and give him a chance.
Do we tell them that okay?
Speaker 5 (46:03):
Do we want to be stressed out at our own
wedding that should be about us? Or do we have
a good wedding and don't invite them?
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Yeah, you're right, your wedding, your rules, you know did
lingo opie.
Speaker 5 (46:12):
You know what's right and you know what to do.
And that's the end of that story.
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Speaker 4 (46:22):
I refuse to supply drinks for my sister's party. She
got me arrested.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Oh you pulled the opposite of the tea pain.
Speaker 6 (46:30):
Yeah, she said, I won't buy you no drinks.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
This happened some years ago. I'm in my thirties now,
but back then I was twenty two, my sister was
eighteen and was my mom's golden child. My dad thankfully
has a good head on his shoulders and always called
my sister out on her crap, but my mom's interference
always meant my sister got off easy. Anyway, this is
what happened back then. By the way, this comes from
material topic four five two two, and you can spent
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your stories if you go to our slash showcase story
Times Separate it. My parents decided to take action to
ski in Aspen and let my sister watch the house
for them. They told her no parties, but that was
a rule she straight up ignored. A day after our
parents left, my sister started sending out invites to a party,
and she was promising free illegal drinks. I didn't see
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that post just yet, but my sister called me and
asked me to go get drinks for her party because
I was over twenty one and could legally buy it.
She also wanted me to pay for it and said
she'd invite me to the party and introduced me to
an easy girl h in order to pay me back.
I told her that I wasn't going to break the law.
To make her happy. She should never have told people
her party would have illegal drinks. She screamed at me
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over the phone that I was ruining her life and
that she couldn't take back the invites now that they
were all over her Facebook.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
Ooh see, now that's where you messed up.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
I told her that what she did was release and
she and her friends were all underage, so it's illegal.
She tried to say it only be illegal if I
narked on them. I said I wouldn't nark, but I
wasn't going to buy her drinks either. She screamed at
me some more, so I hung up the phone. Well,
that night, my sister had the party and someone called
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the police for underage drinking. After being arrested and confronted
by police later on, my sister threw me under the
bus and said that I'd supplied the drinks she was using.
Turns out she broke into dad's liquor cabinet and thought
it'd be better to frame me for her crime. Police
came and arrested me at my apartment the day after
the party. They seemed already convinced I was guilty and
(48:31):
didn't really listen to me when I said I was
never there, but I willingly cooperated with them At the station,
I told them the whole story and got them to
look at my sister's Facebook post. Thankfully, there were a
few people there who listened to me, but I still
had to sit the night out in the cell while
my parents were called. My mom and dad flew back
home over night and bailed out both my sister and I,
but my mom tried to make my dad leave me
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in jail because my sister had told them her lies
as well, but my dad took the time to talk
to me and look at my sister's Facebook though he
believed me. This caused a fight between him and my mom.
When they got home. My dad discovered my sister had
broken into his liquor cabinet and spoke to police on
my behalf. My mom, however, still wanted the blame to
fall on me, because, as she put it, the charges
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would ruin a baby's future, but if she's under eighteen,
it would probably ruin it way less than if OP
got charged. Because he's an adult.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
I think it's more of probably an immediate thing.
Speaker 6 (49:25):
I bet you would screw up like college admissions and
like stuff like that, but probably but they probably guess what, Yeah,
that much, it's going.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
To ruin the other person's life as well.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
Honestly, it would probably ruin his way more if he
had a charge like that than she had, just like
an underage.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
It's a very not respectable felony to have.
Speaker 4 (49:44):
But my innocence was further proven by the fact that
I and my car were seen on CCTV when I
left work and when I arrived at home soon after,
As the apartment I was living in then had CCTV
cameras to watch the parking lot. My car did not
move from there for the rest of the day and night.
In my sister's story to police, I had driven out
and gotten the drinks for her, but I wasn't seen
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on CCTV in any liquor store in the county, and
my bank account showed no transactions buying drinks. My parents'
house also had a camera at the front door, and
my car was never seen in the driveway that day.
After being confronted with those facts, my sister's story changed
to saying I already had the drinks and gave it
to her at my apartment, but my sister's car had
never showed up at my apartment either, and there was
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like three cheap bias in my apartment. Fringe and Noah
had rags. My sister finally had to give up on
her lies, and my parents were severely disappointed in her,
but my mom still tried to convince me to take
the fall for my sister. She came to my apartment
and actually demanded that I tell police that it was
all my fault. I said, I wasn't going to ruin
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my future for my sister. She refused to leave and
went from demanding to begging. She even got on her
knees and tried to convince me that she and Dad
would make everything okay in the long run if I
just took the blame. Are these people who are so
rich and connected they.
Speaker 6 (51:03):
Don't worry, sweetie, Please we'll pay the jodge, just please.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
It's like, well't you just do that? Anyway?
Speaker 4 (51:10):
What I'm imagining is ten things I hate about you?
The guy who throws the party like that house. That's
what I'm thinking. I said, I'd rather live my life
poor than have that felony on my record. She threw
a huge fit and started throwing things because I refused
to do as she wanted. I threatened to call police,
and she left my apartment cussing me out like a
mad woman. I've never heard so many f bombs out
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of her before or since. I called my dad right
away and told him everything that happened. He was insanely
pissed and got into a huge fight with my mom
as soon as she got home. She didn't even deny
anything she said or did, because she deemed it would
have been for the greater good of their daughter. But
my dad told her that she couldn't destroy me to
save my sister. Then he threatened to divorce her if
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she didn't try and make things right. She ended up
sobbing and then saying she'd do whatever he wanted. My
dad said that it was couples in family counseling, or
it was divorced. Wow, my mom signed a prenup before
she married him and really had no choice in the
family counseling. I called her out on how she always
believed my sister's lies. My sister tried to say they
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were not lies, but each one I pointed out from
over the years that otherwise I'd taken the time to
write a list of all the ones I could remember
from the past decade that had all been proven. She lied,
and my mom and sister were forced to stay silent
as I read them all. They tried to interject repeatedly,
but my dad and the counselors silenced them. My sister,
now proved beyond doubt to be a liar and a manipulator,
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just shut down and refused to say anything more to
the counselor, and my mom finally apologized to me, but
it was obviously a forced apology because she looked so
uncomfortable doing it. I told her that her apology was
very fake, and after so many years of favoritism, the
dam wage was already done. My relationship with her never
really recovered because she was convinced I was guilty no
matter what was said until my sister admitted the truth
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and then wanted me to pretend to be the guilty
one anyway to protect her favorite child, but nothing went
her way, so she just went back to crying about it.
When my sister went to court, my mom pleaded with
the judge to go easy on my sister for the
charges of underage drinking.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
Other underaged people drank.
Speaker 4 (53:16):
As well as attempting to frame me for the crime.
She also resisted arrest when the police came and shut
down the party. She was a very franky, she was
dranked out, she was ranked out, she was dranked up
when it happened. They kept her in a cell of
her night to sober up, and then she told police
I'd been the one to provide a lot rank my
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mom's begging along with the relentless lawyer my parents hired,
got the judge to cut a deal provided my sister
pled guilty, which she did not want to do, but
her lawyer highly recommended she takes a deal to avoid
jail time because there was no other way of keeping
her from getting a felony on her record.
Speaker 6 (53:53):
Wow, she's such an entitled golden child. She's even like
trying to argue with the lawyer, like no, I don't
want to, like I didn't do it.
Speaker 3 (54:00):
He's like, oh, yeah, ah, you don't know how good
of a deal you're geting.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (54:06):
My sister's lawyer used the fact that the drank had
not been bought that day, but rather had already been
in the house long before the party happened to help
lessen the charts. My sister's Facebook had also been completely
deleted by her as soon as she was able to
in order to hide the post. The judge just wanted
the case over with, so my sister got off with
a huge fine that our mom paid most of out
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of her pocket and a couple of years probation. She
was also made to get therapy too by our dad.
She's never really showed actual remorse for what she did
and only had animosity for me no matter how in
the wrong she was. She was eventually diagnosed as a
nartist after Dad made her go see a doctor. After
her probation and four years of college were over, she
decided she was going to leave home for California and
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never come back once she landed a good job. She
currently works in an office in LA and we've not
spoken for years. Dad got her that job, and she's
not really shown any appreciation for it. Even my mom
has given up on her ever coming home for the
holidays and us being a family again. It tore her
up inside for a few years, but now she's just bitter.
He doesn't really blame me anymore, but we only seem
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to show indifference to each other just because my sister
cut her off. Wouldn't make me the new de facto favorite.
It just means my mom lost her baby and isn't
getting her back. Shocking that the sister cut everyone off.
They all helped her.
Speaker 6 (55:21):
Well, I mean that it's the diagnosis.
Speaker 4 (55:26):
Yeah, she's like, no, it's all about me and the
fact that you get me completely.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
Off revenge justice her.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
Place.
Speaker 4 (55:34):
Yeah, I'm getting any consequences I don't appreciate.
Speaker 6 (55:37):
Well, I think that she should have been made to
pay back at the cost of that fine.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
Whatever the fine.
Speaker 4 (55:42):
She's her baby, he's her golden child, and it seems
like they're probably pretty rich. She can't leave my dad
because she's too relying on him. Despite having her own career,
she'd never want to be on her own again, so
she's just become a shell of her former self. Things
between me and my dad are still great. He's pretty
much disowned my sister for what she's done and has
stopped caring if she'll ever talk to him again. He
and my mom don't even sleep in the same bedroom anymore.
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She moved into the guest room some five years ago.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
And I stayed there.
Speaker 4 (56:07):
Dang, they liked this family collapsed.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
Yeah, Well, I mean one bad apple.
Speaker 4 (56:13):
Yeah, their marriage is really only one on paper. These
days info, it's a felony or misdemeanor to provide rank
to miners. And my sister provided stolen drank to at
least a dozen people who were under twenty one. Then
she resisted to rest and tried to frame me bite
lying to the police. The fact that she got off
easy thanks to the shark tooth lawyer my parents hire
for my sister was incredibly lucky, not that she was
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ever appreciative. The jot hit her with a fine for
each person she gave Frank two wow, which added up.
How did he know how many people were at that party?
Speaker 1 (56:45):
Maybe he was there.
Speaker 4 (56:46):
He was like it was about like so many people there.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
He's like, Hey, that party was way too cool.
Speaker 4 (56:52):
The party was off the chain. Yeah, and with the
cost of the lawyer, Well, my parents were out a
lot of money. Edit. Yes my parents are wealthy. Yes, yes,
my parents are wealthy. And you know that means that
the rich rich in case says, my parents so wealthy.
The ski trip to Aspin didn't tip you off, especially
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my dad as he's a business owner. He owns several businesses.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Actually, we didn't need that one.
Speaker 4 (57:18):
One big one and a few smaller ones. He even
owns one of the local gas stations, and the town
we live in is full of board police that are
just itching to get some action. Also heard that a
couple of the miners arrested at the party were the
kids of police as well. Yikes, which did not help
my aunts when the cops came for me. I also
went out of my way to provide some of the evidence,
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like the CCTV from my job, my apartment complex, and
my big statements showing I didn't buy the rank. The
rest my dad pushed for. He had a lawyer get
the CCTV from every liquor store in the county for
that day, though my mom tried to talk him out
of doing so. In the end, this took way too
much to prove my sister was a liar because she
tried to stick to her story hard, even after my
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parents discovered she got the drank from my dad's liquor
cabinin And yes, my parents lost a ton of money
basically paying off the court to dismiss most of my
sister's charges. My sister had to pay like ten percent.
That's about it. And that's just the little bit, my
parents made her pay. They still paid for her college
after that as well. Though people calling this out as
rich people drama are exactly right because it is just
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that at the time this went on, I was still
in college myself, but my dad insisted I have a
part time job to learn the value of work, and
he was exactly right about that. My family is wealthy,
but my dad tried to keep me from acting spoiled
growing up. I even bought my own first car with
money iron work in part time. But I can't say
the same for my sister, as my mom treated her
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like a princess. The rest of the family as a
whole also hates my sister after what she did back then,
so there wasn't much love lost when she ghosted us,
save for my mom. She cried about it often for
an entire year. And edit two. Yes this happened in
the US, and yes it was the way police arrested me.
My dad had some pretty strong words with them about that,
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but I guess the cops have nothing to better to do,
and the arrest was expunged for my record after I
was proven innocent. But as someone in the comments pointed out,
it's scary how easily your freedom can be taken away.
I've instinctively avoided police ever since that happened. For them,
arresting the son of a rich guy must have been
a big scandal waiting to happen. And you know what
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else is a big scandal? Tell me, you guys not
listening to full episodes with stories like this on Spotify,
Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcast app. Just search up
Pokey story Time. Why would you not be listening to us?
It's a scandal and there is a little bit left
to the story. But do you have final thoughts for op?
Speaker 1 (59:44):
I would say you did good, you did the right thing.
Speaker 6 (59:47):
Yeah, clearly, you guys, you're probably you know, it's it's
hard realizing you better off without a family, Memba, it's hard.
So it sounds like the mom's gonna need to get
therapy to really compute that.
Speaker 4 (59:59):
Oh yeah, but it seems like she's like pretty like
broken down. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:00:03):
I think it's got to be hard, like your kid
cutting you off has you got to be hard? But
it's like it's coming from a place of like negativity, right,
So I don't know, but there is a little.
Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
Bit more to this story, and no one was injured
as a result of a dui. But I've spoken with
my dad and he said there were a few DUIs
because a few of the miners that got in their
cars and tried to drive away. Considering I heard a
few of the people there were the kids. The police
officers that only made things look things worse for me.
The cops that arrested me both looked middle aged, so
if their kids were involved, that may explain why they
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treated me like I was guilty. Those who say this
is fake, I wish it was, because it's so that
it really should be. But my ungrateful sister broke our family,
and she nearly destroyed my reputation. These days, everyone in
town has forgotten her. She lost most, if not all,
of her friends after that party because they were all arrested.
It is obviously her fault about everything else, but kind
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of great to be like, I got a rest in
for underrage drinking, and that's your fall.
Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Like you went to the party, you drank.
Speaker 6 (01:01:08):
My entitled aunt wants my life because she couldn't have
a daughter.
Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
That's my life.
Speaker 6 (01:01:14):
Get your own, ecky angel of my life. I've gotta admit.
My poor dad has told me numerous stories of my
entitled aunt Sarah fifty female maake name. So I wanted
to write these down because there are a few I
want to remember before I twenty one female forget they're
in chronological order.
Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
oOoOO very impressible. Pete love that.
Speaker 6 (01:01:35):
By the way, this comes from user Skeleton eighteen fifty one,
and you can submit your stories on the r slash
okay storytime subreddit.
Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
So here's some background.
Speaker 6 (01:01:44):
My entitled aunt Sarah is the eldest of three kids.
There's her and then my aunt Tory or ooh, so
I gotta keep the aunts in the aunts consistent. Here
my aunt Tory forty seven female and my dad forty
six male. All players have their own kids. Sarah has
three boys, which is important for later Tory has three girls,
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and my dad has a boy and a girl. Feel
free to share. I'd be happy to share more stories,
as my entitled aunt isn't the only entitled woman in
my family. Here's the beginning. Sarah was deemed the brain
of Britain, growing up always top of her class and
never getting into bother at school, so she willingly stayed
until the last year of high school so she could
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get better grades to go to university. Mind you, this
is in the eighties and I don't really know if
there was tuition covered in Scotland, but I doubt it.
So Sarah declared she would be taking a gap year
to work and go to university the following year. At nineteen, however,
she met her future husband, butt Face that's what he
will be known as, and he was from a decently
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well off family. This is what my aunt Tory declares
is the start of her entitlement, since butt Face told
her she never had to work a day again if
they got married.
Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
They didn't marry until two.
Speaker 6 (01:03:00):
Years later, but butt Face gave Sarah the life she
wanted and felt she deserved after a childhood of poverty
and hiding from social workers. Fair to say, she never
did apply for university at nineteen or any point after that.
My grandfather, her father, was so angry with her because
he felt she was wasting her future for a life
of sitting about. Obviously, Sarah didn't care Britain. Sarah's the
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brain of Britain and she used that big brain to
get herself a sugar daddy.
Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Onto the marriage and children.
Speaker 6 (01:03:27):
Here, Yes, butt Face and Sarah did get married and
it was a lovely affair.
Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Apparently I didn't even know. I wasn't born yet.
Speaker 6 (01:03:35):
Now I should mention that my entitled aunt is incredibly
religious and this was brought on more by her marriage.
She had to wait until she was married to have
a child because quote, the elders in the church will
speak so badly if I had a child out of wedlock. Woman,
this was the nineties in Scotland. The elders in the
church would have the elders in the church. Was everyone
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just having babies out of wedlock in Scotland in the nineties.
I mean it was the nineties in Scotland. Who wasn't
having babies?
Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
So yeah? What.
Speaker 6 (01:04:06):
In the mid nineties, Sarah announced she was expecting a
baby boy with butt face and the family went insane.
Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
This was my first grandchild.
Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Did grandchild be mistaken as like grand niece.
Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
Let's keep going and see if it makes sense of.
Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Me, Okay?
Speaker 6 (01:04:21):
But then Tory also announced she was pregnant two weeks
later and announced it was a baby girl. This set
off Sarah because she developed a sick obsession with having
a girl. Before the end of the nineties, Sarah had
managed to have the first born and two boys. Tory
managed to have two girls, and Nick had my older brother,
so five grandkids in total. After the millennium, my dad
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had announced that my mom was pregnant again and so
did Tory, which was unexpected. So just a few months apart,
I was born in May and my little cousin in September.
Now you'll never guess what Sarah did. She got pregnant again.
She's just like, I want to join in on the pregnancy.
Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Like everyone was getting pregnant with me. Everyone baby, make
a little baby.
Speaker 6 (01:05:06):
She was told during the scans that she was having
a girl and she was ecstatic. However, the doctor was
beyond stupid and my youngest cousin ended up being a boy.
She was so depressed and turned on her sister and brother.
She berated her sister and brother for having children out
of wedlock and saying that they were going.
Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
To the bad place and deserve to burn for.
Speaker 6 (01:05:27):
Rubbing it in her face that they managed to have girls.
This actually caused no contact for a few months between
my dad and Sarah. However, this all changed once we
started to visit her quote, give me your daughter, She's
my golden child. Apparently that is a quote from Opie's aunt. Surprisingly,
I do remember this, despite being like four years old.
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By this point, my parents were married, so the wedlock
issue stopped. But Sarah had become quite possessive over me
over the last year. When I saw I had to
stick by her side or stay within reach of her,
I was lucky my two older cousins told her to
go do one in young Kid's speech, so I could
go play Pokemon and watch Power Rangers with them. I'm
assuming that that slang for just like buzz off.
Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
You got day one. That's not Scottish. To be clear,
I was just British. I was just British, Greater Britain. No,
it's which is the same as schooland I a little bad.
Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
I feel really bad for Opie's I think cousins, because
Sarah's like, oh, I love you Opie, You're like the best,
and she's like, I don't care about my sons at all.
Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
This is some unhinged behavior from the auntie here.
Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
Most definitely all he says, I just kept having kids
until I had a girl. I think that's fine. It's
just the act of like being like, oh dang, I
hate this kid because it's not the gender.
Speaker 6 (01:06:48):
Yeah, it's like we read a story yesterday that was
like a parent where they were just like they didn't
expect to have twins, and they were just like, ah,
we'll give away the one that doesn't have the blue eyes.
Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
It's like, what is wrong with you that one?
Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (01:07:02):
On one visit, nearly at my fifth birthday, I was
downstairs with my little cousin and we were playing when
my dad told me to get my shoes on so
we could get home for dinner.
Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
I remember looking up and seeing Sarah death glare at
my dad.
Speaker 6 (01:07:15):
Now, this is sixteen year old memories mixed in with
paraphrasing from my dad, but this is the exchange that
supposedly happened. Sarah says, go home. I told you I
wanted her to stay the night, Dad, Sarah, I told
you already. She's going to go see Tory and the
girls tomorrow. And Sarah, she scoffs.
Speaker 7 (01:07:34):
You're prioritizing your nieces again. I told you next, she's
my golden child's she's mine. She's going to stay here
tonight so we can have a girl's night's air.
Speaker 6 (01:07:46):
Oh my god, And he shut up about this. You
never got a girl, Get over it. She's my daughter,
so if you don't shut up, I'll make sure you
never see her again. Fair to say, I was able
to go home with my dad, and I didn't really
see my cousins for a few months. It was on
and off visits until I was about seven, and then
they moved up north for butt Face's job. Out of wedlock,
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bites Sarah on her behind. This has got to be
a fan favorite tale of mine, mainly because I was
there to witness it. Now, my eldest cousin, A was
nineteen at this time, so I was thirteen. I had
seen him the previous week for a visit and he
told me that he's going to be announcing some really
good news on a family group call. As soon as
I joined the call, I was lambasted by Sarah for
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wearing a football top and told to change it. She
hated that I was not the once innocent little girl
she knew, but a tomboy.
Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
However, that is for another day. Now.
Speaker 6 (01:08:39):
I sat with my dad and my brother whilst A
joined the call with his girlfriend Pee. We're gonna have
Alvin and Porsche. Porsche, Porsche and Alvin. Okay, we thought
he was announcing an engagement. Nope, Allen and Porsche announced
that they were pregnant and expecting a baby in November,
and they're gonna name it a Lorsha.
Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
I see you. It's gonna be a baby girl, and
Sarah's gonna be like it's mine.
Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
I see you. She's gonna sneak in and steal that baby.
Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
She's gonna do it like Tangled style, and then she's
going to lock the child on a tower and we
steal youth.
Speaker 6 (01:09:13):
She's going to give a kookie magical palace, and she's
going to use her kooky magical palace, and she's.
Speaker 4 (01:09:19):
Going to fall out of a tower and turned to dus.
Speaker 6 (01:09:21):
I screamed in delight at the news. My dad was
proud of Alvin, and my brother was so pleased. My
granddad already knew Sarah and butt Face looked pale, about
to faint and started screaming at Alvin. Sarah demanded that
we leave the call, and we did. I was horrified
at her reaction, but my dad told me not to worry.
And this is how I was told the previous stories
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I've mentioned above. Sarah was seriously so entitled because she
wanted everything her way, and the fact her eldest son
was having a child before the age of twenty with
his girlfriend of nine months and refused to get married
set her off. Alvin had to cut contact from Portia
being three months pregnant until just before his daughter was
I was like, did Alvin cut off his own It
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sounded like he cut off Porsche.
Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
But he didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
He cut off the aunt.
Speaker 6 (01:10:06):
Yes, you'd never believe now that Sarah is a doting
grandmother to the now six year old daughter of Alvin.
After all she put her son through. I've actually yet
to meet her in the flesh. I've only met her
on video call. That's just life when you're two hundred
miles apart bragging about your lifestyle at a wedding.
Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
So all these have been different stories.
Speaker 6 (01:10:25):
To be clear, all of these are little bullet points,
little windows into the entitlement of OPI's auntie.
Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
It's all about her wanting children kind of.
Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
The through line or.
Speaker 6 (01:10:37):
The through line is she's like, you despicable beast sho
having children out of Wednock.
Speaker 4 (01:10:44):
This is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Give your kids, slow key what she did? Yeah, right,
low key already what she did?
Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
Did she Oh, yeah, she did it at.
Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
The beginning, and then they got married.
Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
Oh but I think what she's really upset with is
that they're not getting married because they don't have plans
to get married. It's seems like and so she's like,
this is ridiculuss.
Speaker 6 (01:11:02):
Just find yourself a man in the eighties who'll tell
you you'll never have to work another day.
Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Now, this is a more recent story.
Speaker 6 (01:11:10):
My dad attended his cousin's wedding about four years ago,
and Sarah was actually invited. No idea who thought that
was a good idea. To preface this story, I need
to explain something. Do you remember how I said Sarah
was promised to never work again once she married butt Face. Yeah,
that backfired. So it turns out butt Face lost his
high paying job and was forced into a crappy office
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job for a few years. Because Sarah couldn't live her lifestyle,
she had to get a job for the first time
in twenty six years and was brought back down to earth.
Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
It was a humbling experience for her.
Speaker 6 (01:11:45):
Now I wasn't at this wedding, but my dad informed
me that Sarah was showing how entitled she was again.
She sat with a cousin of theirs my dad and
my mom, and began to detail how they were going
back home to go on a yaw no not their yacht,
friends yacht, and not a yacht, but a decent sized boat.
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This lasted forty five minutes and the cousin had to
walk away before telling her to f off and save
this for.
Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
A more appropriate occasion.
Speaker 6 (01:12:14):
And by the way, it's always an appropriate occasion for
you to listen to full episodes with stories like this,
and all you need to do to find them is
go to the Spotify or Apple podcast or wherever you
listen to things.
Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Just search up.
Speaker 6 (01:12:27):
Okay, storytime, I don't really think this is like a
story looking for advice, but I mean my advice would
definitely be to this lady.
Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
Not let this lady around around your kids.
Speaker 4 (01:12:38):
Yeah, moral of the story, don't let this lady are
und your kids. She might be the brain of Britain,
but not a good idea to bring her und your kids.
Speaker 6 (01:12:45):
To conclude, my dad hasn't actually seen Sarah in about
three years. They never spoke for ten years because my
dad realized how one sided their relationship was. He decided
after she moved to not text her and see how
long it would take for her to text him. When
he did that, she hasn't ever texted him once. Dad
only speaks to Alvin and doesn't bother with Sarah's other sons.
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My brother talks to all three of them. I only
talk to Alvin as well as he's helping me with
some UNI stuff. Sarah will never change. She never thanked
us for her fiftieth birthday posts or the present in
card that we sent up to her. She hates the
fact that I'm the first granddaughter to go to university
and pushed one of her sons to be a teacher too.
Screw you, Sarah, you just prioritize your own lifestyle and
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instead of loving your nieces and nephew and that I
love that.
Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
The end of that story.
Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
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Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
My aunt keeps demanding to switch houses, but we stood firm.
Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Girl to say monopoly.
Speaker 4 (01:13:50):
Just Traine, Hello Reddit, this is on mobiles, so I
apologize for any grammar or spelling errors. So this is
the first of probably many stories of my mother's entitled
sister for the sake of her series, because there are
many instances, I'll call her Jackie. By the way, this
comes from Rock and Roller ninety three, and if you
want to submit your stories, go to Okay Storytime on Reddit.
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This is going to be a lot of context before
the main story, so please bear with me. Jackie is
the middle sister, with my mom being the youngest of three.
My oldest aunt on my mom's side will be Maria
since she is a saint to put up with my
entitled aunt Jackie, So Maria, Jackie and Mom. Maria was
always the caring nurse eldest sister who took care of everyone.
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My mom was the youngest who loved cheerleading and being
the boss lady of a corporation before giving it up
to be a stay at home mom for me and
my sister. Jackie. On the other hand, she was the
pretty smart and petty sister that always got all of
the boys in high school, but afterwards spiraled. She never
tried hard. She didn't graduate from college until she got
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a social work degree at a community college. I pity
the poor kids that had her as their overseer with
how she treate people in general. Her mental health took
a nose dive as her looks apparently got worse after
high school. From her perspective, she got plenty of attention,
but any positive relationship you ever had she destroyed. As
a kid, I knew there was something up with her,
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since she always seemed negative or had something pitiful to say.
You would snap at everyone and cry about how her
life should have been better. She'd also tell me from
seven to eleven to give her my Christmas money before
my nana and Pop, my mom's parents, finally shut her down. Wait,
She's like, hey, Gig, give me your money and he's like, what,
but this is my Christmas money and she's like, I
don't give it here.
Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
No, I bet you she's doing like that. Don't worry.
I'm gonna hold on the way like.
Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
I'm gonna put this into stocks and invest this for you,
and then in a couple of years it's gonna be
double the money and you might be wondering, oh, when
am I get the money? Don't ask. She was living
with my nana and pop from when she was twenty
six into her fifties before they finally had enough. She's
always been a moocher and plays the victim in every situation,
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even if the story she's telling was never hers to
begin with. Sorry for the long background of my aunt Jackie.
While I don't have ill will towards her and understand
her frustrations with her life, her decisions and attitude are
what cement her leech like image in my brain. During
the global crisis, I've been staying at home with my
parents in our house. This four bedroom house has been
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with us since before I was born, almost thirty years
in a neighborhood that grew around it. The neighborhood would
years later become an impressively expensive area with McMansions and
golf courses as far as the eye can see. My
parents have finally, as of this summer, paid off the
mortgage of this impressive and amazing house, and I love
living here with them. I pay them rent and water
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bills as well as food. I have a great room,
and I am not too far from my office in the
store bus. I get to cook for my mom and
dad for their opinions on my recipes win win, and.
Speaker 6 (01:16:50):
Then after I cook a fantastic diner out, i'd take
a sojourn to the golf course play a quick session
on the back nine.
Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
Aunt Jackie has her own two bedroom house and has
for a couple of years now. Problem is she doesn't
take care of it or herself. My mom has gone
on more than one occasion to clean out the house
for my aunt because she's physically disabled. Aunt Jackie only
screams at Mom about what to do like she's her slave,
but refuses to help or praise her. I wanted to
go with my mom to act like a buffer, but
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she refuses, saying I'll just end up getting guilted and tricked.
I've been pretty firm as of late, but I've been
known to forgive things more readily than others would allow.
So during the crisis, we haven't seen her, but have
had phone conversations. Well. Last weekend, my Aunt Jackie called
my mom to check in.
Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
Jackie.
Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
I haven't talked to you in a while. How are you, Mom?
Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Oh good, everything's been doing as well as ken be
doing this time, Jackie.
Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
That's nice now that vaccines are rolling out. It's got
to be nice to see everyone again. She always leaves
a pause after she says something to try and get
more information out of people or make her voice sound
weaker and more pitiful.
Speaker 6 (01:18:00):
We usually keep to ourselves, so we've been good so
far with distancing.
Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
What are you looking forward to once everything goes back
to normal.
Speaker 4 (01:18:08):
Well, I can't wait to come visit. My house has
gone so cluttered lately. I'm thinking of getting a bigger
house for all my stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
It's huge.
Speaker 6 (01:18:17):
Stay now it's me Mom's other personality, the Italian version
of mom. Really, why don't you just get rid of
some stuff you don't use instead?
Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Selling houses are tough right now?
Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
Actually, I was hoping you would just let me have
your house. I have so much more stuff, and your
house is so much nicer and cleaner than mine.
Speaker 6 (01:18:39):
Jackie, I already told you No, this is my house
and my husband's house. Eventually it will be Opie in
her sister's house. I have no intention of selling it.
Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
No, No, I don't want to buy your house. Just
switch with me. You and your husband gonna have my
house and hope you can live with me over there.
Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Number one, what makes you think I'll let you have
my house? And number two? Why would ope be staying
with you in my house?
Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
Well, you've had her for a long enough, don't you
think she makes all these amazing meals for you and
helps around the house. I figure she can just keep
it up but for me, But she'll have to pay
for the internet, electricity, water, et cetera. I mean, she
has a job and I only have my little old pension.
And with your husband still working, he can pay off
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the mortgage for my house.
Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
I am no longer on Jackie's side.
Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
Yeah, so Jackie just like, just give me your house. Ope.
His Mom's like no, and she's like, but that's unfair.
But that's really what I want, really want your house.
Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
My house is full of crap.
Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
Crash.
Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
I trashed my house. Let me trash your house.
Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
Jackie continued with her delusional rant for a few minutes,
with my mom looking at the receiver like a spewed
fire at her. Finally, after a few minutes, Mom got
angry enough to cut her off.
Speaker 6 (01:20:02):
You are not setting foot in my house, and you
sure as heck are not going to use my daughter
as a slave labor. You are out of your god
dang mind. Good night, Jacqueline, and then she hung up.
Speaker 4 (01:20:19):
My mom then had to pop open a bottle of
red wine and told my dad and I everything they said.
My Mom was on the phone. Dad and I were
evesdropping from the other room, praying Mom wouldn't let her come.
My yeah, the uld be crazy and she was like, yes,
Jackie is moving into the house and we are moving out.
Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
She's like, after a couple of glasses of red wine.
Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
I've decided to over the house.
Speaker 6 (01:20:39):
She's like, hey, you know what is the more the
Mary's After Mom has a couple of glasses of red wine,
that's when the Italian comes Theah.
Speaker 4 (01:20:48):
We were so relieved Mom put her foot down. It
turns out Jackie called Maria to complain about what Mom
said to her, spinning a sob story about how cruel
a little sister she was but not giving up her
house and how she was going to be alone until
she could rent an RV to go live with Aunt Maria.
Suffice to say, Aunt Maria shut that idea down and
told her to stop trying to force herself on other
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people at almost sixty seven years of age. Sorry for
the long story, everyone. There are other stories of my
Aunt Jackie, but her madness only seems to get worse
as the years go on. So I thought I'd share
the most recent craziness with all of you before going
back to rehash the past, and there is an updates. Okay, guys,
this has just gotten more crazy. Jackie called my mom
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just a few minutes ago. It's not even eight am
yet here sad about how last weekend went with their conversation.
She was sorry about asking for the house. Instead, she's
willing to settle for my room and I can take
her house or reasoning, I'll be thinking about getting her
own place anyway. I can just transfer the mortgage to her.
It'll be sad not to have her stay, but she
needs to leave the nest sometime, right.
Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
Low key though I kind of.
Speaker 4 (01:21:54):
Like that, I mean, but then the bear I live
with Jajackie.
Speaker 6 (01:21:57):
That's the bad part is that now Jackie lives at
the house. But like low key sweet deal for ope,
being like she's to pay a mortgage, well, I mean,
how much some of us got have already be paid off?
Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
Right, you don't have to pay the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (01:22:08):
Mom was simmering, hasn't even had her coffee yet, and said, no,
she's welcome to stay here until she saves enough for
her own place. It will be her decision, not yours.
Mom put her on speaker and walked to my doorway
as I'm working from home and.
Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
My room is right next to hers.
Speaker 4 (01:22:23):
Much she's all and half. She shouldn't be living with
her parents at her age. She should just get a
boyfriend and move out on her own. She looks right
at me with my mouth hanging open.
Speaker 6 (01:22:31):
Mom, well, husband, and I love having her here. She
can get a boyfriend and move out whenever she feels comfortable,
but that will not be dictated by you.
Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
Also, if she leaves.
Speaker 6 (01:22:42):
Who's going to pay the water bill and groceries and
make my favorite pizza?
Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
You?
Speaker 4 (01:22:46):
No, why would I be cooking when i'd be the guest?
Speaker 6 (01:22:49):
Well, oh, people's await around the house is my tenant
in the meantime and saving for her first house, so
I don't see why we should be bringing you in.
Speaker 4 (01:22:57):
After that, Mom starts walking back the kitchen and I
get back to work. And I want you guys to
work on listening to more full episodes with stories like this.
Just go to Okay story Time, search that up on Spotify,
Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app. And there was
a little bit more to this story. But any any
final final thoughts.
Speaker 6 (01:23:18):
You'll only get once house, Please say no and say
no if you can get that house, though it'd be
pretty sweet.
Speaker 4 (01:23:24):
It seems like it's pretty like run down and also
more you can flip that, you'll flip that, you can
flip that one. But op. He finishes it off with
I didn't hear the rest, but my mom is half asleep,
just brushing her off. That is, until Jackie had the
nerve to ask for us to renovate the garage to
make her a room, since my living there probably saves
them so much money they would be able to afford it.
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Mom just screamed, you have a house, now live in it.
I burst out laughing, and I've been sitting here typing
this word for word. Thank God for long zoom meetings
and not having to have our cameras on. And that,
my friends, is the end of that story.