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My ex boyfriend cheated on me before the most important day.

Speaker 4 (00:19):
Of my life got at least wait a day.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Come on, bye twenty six female x thirty three mail.
At the time had been together for four and a
half years. We had a rough start, and honestly, he
showed all of his red flags at the beginning, and
I chose to ignore them. We met through a mutual
friend in it off right away. I was gone the
first month of our relationship for a family trip, but
we talked every day. When I got back, I started

(00:44):
seeing how bad his drinking was, so I brought it
to his attention, and he tried to be better, such
as sticking to a certain number.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
When we were with friends and such.

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Speaker 3 (01:05):
So I finally asked if we could take the weekend
and be sober and talk again on Monday and have
a clear conversation. He of course, went out with someone else,
and I got a call from his sister that night
saying he hadn't come home yet and asked if I
was with him, because he told her I would be.
I said no, and after a lot of chaos, I
got him home and went over to talk to him
the next day, because at this point he was never

(01:26):
going to stop for at least a day. I sat
down as he cried, cried every time I had to
remind him what he did. I said, as much as
I care about him, I don't want this from my life,
so I'm okay if he wants to beat this person,
I just can't stay around.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
He quit cold turkey that day.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Three months into our relationship, he decided he decided he
couldn't trust himself without me around, so he moved in
with me right away, and then the VID hit real quick.
He and I definitely come from different backgrounds. I got
everything I ever needed growing up a good, loving family.
I went to private schools and was working on my
bachelor's degree. He, on the other hand, had a rough life,

(02:05):
growing up lots of substances and getting mixed up in
bad news. And once was ambitious, but after a bad
previous relationship and a bad accident, he fell into depression
and drinking.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
During the VID, things were pretty bad.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
I'm a really happy person, always optimistic and ambitious and
always had a goal in mind and nothing was going
to stop me from getting there.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
He wasn't always like this either.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
We had plenty of times where we were happy, cooked together,
took long rides together, enjoyed the life we were living
with the more than frequent.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Fighting and tears.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
I got a job after graduation, waiting for the VID
to ends so I could go to grad school. It
was always the plan, and I told him from the
beginning I couldn't stay in our home state to do
what I wanted to do, and he agreed. He has
never lived anywhere else but the small town we met.
After three and a half years since we got together,
I finally got into grad school across the country and

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was so excited to be almost there. I saved up
money for the entire year so I wouldn't have to
work while at school and he would have a job
to help. He, of course was apprehensive, but agreed to
go with I did give him the choice, but I
was going with or without him. We moved, and boy,
oh boy, I didn't know what we were in for.
We had never lived in a big city, and it

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made both of us more depressed. But I was still
excited to get my degree and worked hard for it.
In the meantime, during the year and a half it
took me to get my master's, he failed to find
a job, so I paid for everything, and that washed
out my entire savings. He did try, but for some
reason he had bad luck or it didn't feel right
to him. I'm not too sure, but I was not

(03:44):
happy sure about that. While we were there, I found
out I had some health problems that contributed to me
not feeling like, being weak and losing hair, finding spicy, sleep, painful,
and just overall a shell of myself.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
He was relieved to hear that.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
There was some wrong with me, and it wasn't that
I was unattracted to him, but to be honest, I
had been through so much I think to an extent
that was true I started treatment, and it's taking me
all the way until now to feel like myself again.
He wanted to excel in his passion of weight training,
so I thought I could help support him since he
was supporting me for my dreams. He thought he could

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start something back in his hometown, so he started flying
back and forth to work on his goal.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
I was supportive.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
I just wanted him to finally be happy and finally
maybe help pay for a life for us. He'd be
gone anywhere from a week to a month at a time.
Finally the day came. I was getting ready for family
and friends to fly in to see me graduate with
my masters.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
This was the most.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Important day to me because I never got a proper
graduation due to the VID, and I got a job
offer in the field. I had been working my entire
life to get. This was my dream finally coming true.
Something had been bugging me that something wasn't right between us.
This was one of the hardest years of our lives.
But before I began my new chapter, I needed to

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know everything. As we were going to bed, he was
downstairs shutting everything off, and I decided to check his phone.
I found his deleted messages. I found in his deleted messages,
messages to a girl, clearly flirting, calling her all the
names he called me, saying spicy sleep is better with her,

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how she how he wanted to be with her, sending
pictures and more and more.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Yikes, dune yikes.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Staring longingly into a bowl of ice cream, like, yeah,
I know that guy is a red flag crazy dude.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
No, he cheated.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
He's bad, and you knew he was bad the whole time.
You said that, you saw the red flags, and you
were just like no. I'm sure there were probably.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
More girls and more messages, but I didn't get that far.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
He came upstairs and I told him to stop once
he got to the door, and told him I was
going to read to him what I just read so
we could both be on the same page. I didn't
get too far into reading before he tackled me for
his phone and ran out of the house to his
truck and drove away. I called my best friend, who
was flying in that night, also the friend that introduced us,
and she was shocked. When he finally returned home, he

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said he had deleted everything from his phone because he
didn't want there to be anything else that I could misconstrue,
but promised that was the only girl. Buddy, What do
I look like? I just blew in from stupid town?
What this is another classic? There's no list?

Speaker 2 (06:32):
What list are you talking about? Yeah, there was never
a list. What do you mean?

Speaker 4 (06:35):
I didn't even bring up a list?

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Are you talking about? There was never anything in my phone? Look,
I deleted it. Look I deleted it. And also you.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Misunderstood what that even was, which is why I deleted
it because I hate just people misunderstanding me.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
But also that was like the only girl that you
that you could have misunderstood anything about.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
It was the only girl that I cheated on you with.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
But also you misunderstood, and so I'm just leading so
you can't misunderstand anything else because it's.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Your fault, your phone. I was right for tackling you
to the ground.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
It's like the equivalent of like you're walking down the
beach and then your partner just grabs your phone and
throws it into the ocean like that literally, and they're like, no,
it was I was saving you. Actually, the fat phone
is danger next, Yeah, the phone was dangerous. Yeah, because
I thought maybe if you accidentally walked into the water,
it would like shock you like no, so I just

(07:23):
don't worry about it. Also, whatever you were reading must
have been a fanfit that I deleted. I saw his
phone again and sure enough, he deleted everything. His phone
was totally white. We had a big fight and he
would now sleep on the couch for the rest of
the week while I celebrated with everyone who came to
support me. We didn't really have time to talk with
everything going on. But the night before my graduation he

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and I went to pick up food for everyone and talked.
He was weeping, saying he's never been a cheater, he
doesn't recognize himself and I don't deserve this.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
I saved his life. I'm a good person. Blah blah,
blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
I said, I have never been this selfish to him,
and this was the most it's important thing I was
going to do in my life, and he tainted it.
He suggested couples counseling and I said, sounds great. You're
going to pay for it, and he nodded and hung
his head. Onto the day of graduation, I was on
cloud nine. I walked across the stage through my hat
in the air, and I turned around to where my
family was and I see him, and all I can

(08:17):
do is cry, cry because I was finally here, and
then cry harder because the one person I thought would
be even more happy for me was the one who
broke my heart into pieces, and all I could see
was a stranger. Festivities went on and he didn't come
to anything. After I had dropped off the last of
my family at the airport, I was alone for the
first time since all of this and cried all the
way home. When I got home, he asked me what

(08:38):
was wrong, and I told him I was alone for
the first time, and all.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
He did was say, oh.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
And I looked up at him and said, you're breaking
up with me. He nodded his head and said we
should talk.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
I'm sorry. What how did we get there? How did
we get there? How did we get there?

Speaker 3 (08:56):
So he's going to be like, honestly, I just can't
respect to you anymore after you didn't break up with
me when you discovered did I cheated?

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Honestly? Like the fact that you went through my phone.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
The fact that I had to tackle you just so
that you could stop is like really crazy and.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
I should never have to do that.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
I hated doing that more than you hated being tackled. Yeah, true, true, Yeah,
this hurts me more than it hurts you.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, this guy needs to get Oklahoma drio.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
That's crazy, dude, for real.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
I assume the tackle was into like the bed.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, I assume the tackle was not like a full
form linebacker tackle.

Speaker 5 (09:28):
Yeah, but like still trying to physically tackle you to
get the phone out of your hands.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Man handled to get the phone out of the hands,
out of the door, and leaves and then come back
and he's like, well, I thank god I deleted all
that stuff so that you wouldn't be used anymore.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
That's insane, dude. No, he's bringing up with her.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah, that's crazy girl.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
I hope that every time he goes to a restaurant
they're always out of whatever he wants to order.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
I hope that so hard, dude.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
I hope your cold gaspacho is always warm.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
Yeah, you foolauze man.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
It was a long night, but I wasn't going to
change his mind, and nor did I want to. Two
days later, he flew his dad out, packed up his car,
and left back to his hometown. After four and a
half years, I did try reaching out to the girl,
just seeing if she would talk to me. I'm not
mad at her completely, but I just wanted to know,
and she blocked me without saying a word. I do
now know she was married with kids. This is a

(10:25):
woman he never wanted me to get to know anyway.
I only talked to him if it had something to
do with logistics. But after everything was said and done,
I never wanted to talk to this man ever again.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
He was the worst years of my life.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
He was going to propose to me, but before he left,
I gave him back our promise rings. I then moved
to a different city closer to the job. I got
to a place we had picked out together, with no
family and no friends, just my two dogs, which is
a blessing because without them I wouldn't have made it
through these four and a half years. Honestly, there's nothing
to say. It's like this guy cheated on you. He's
moving out, You're doing good. WHI just sorry, superman. I

(11:02):
moved and made a lot of new friends, and four
months later I met someone who is from my home
state and in a similar field as me, and we
have been inseparable since. He has his own dog, works
at the same place I do, and after a year
and a half together, we're a happy little family and
are looking to the rest of our lives together.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
I'm still working at my.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Dream job, living in an amazing place that feels much
better to me, and I'm happier than I've ever been.
As for my ex, I blocked him and everyone that
was associated with him, and I haven't heard anything about
him besides that he got into a relationship with a
woman his age with many kids.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Honestly, the complete opposite of me. I'll be honest.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
I hold a lot of resentment in my heart that
I have been working on, but my amazing boyfriend now
has made it easy to fall feel at peace and
show me what real safety and love and loyalty feels like.

Speaker 6 (11:50):
Oh beautiful, that's so beautiful.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Did I say that they had a talk together, that
he had.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
A dog dog and she had two dogs, and then
their dogs came down and so cute.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
I just discovered he's married, So I'm telling his wife
about us.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Ah, good luck with that dude.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
Thirty four female didn't know that he fifty three male,
was married.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
When we met at work.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
We were friends for half of a year, eating lunch
or getting coffee daily and texting on weekends. He got
closer and he kept asking me to have drinks after
work or get lunch on weekends.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
After a year, I agreed.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
One night during drinks, he hugged me and so that
he felt like he could be himself with me. A
week later, he kissed me and told me that he
loved me, and that's how we began. By the way,
this comes from a maleficent step six to sixty seven
and if you want us to make your own stories,
go to the r slash okay storytime at Supreddit. So
as he was late forties early fifties with teenage kids,

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I never questioned why he didn't invite me to his house,
but he slept over at mine often, and I live
in a nice part of town where restaurants and concert
venues were, so it made sense why we hung out
in my place and not his and supper. I could
never have imagined that the man I fell in love
with was a bad person, so I made so many
excuses in my head, ignoring the obvious signs as they
came up during the first year of our relationship. Realizing, okay,

(13:12):
he's married legally, but maybe he separated. Maybe she's a
Safacan allowing him spicy sleep. Maybe it's an open marriage.
Maybe they don't like each other but are staying for
the kids. Once, after about a year, I saw him
texting his wife, calling her a moore and kissing face emojis,
and I felt like the stupidest person on earth. All
the while, he was telling me that he loved me

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so much and wished that he could restart his life
to hold on.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
To meet me.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
Every time I said how disgusted I felt with myself
and that I am a total pos he would love
bomb me even harder. I'm not his first affair, probably
the twentieth woman he's slept with since getting married, but
he claims that I'm the first that he's fallen in
love with. He claimed that his affairs started when his
wife told him that she didn't want to have spicy
sleep anymore after having kids ten years ago, But then

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later he told me that the last time he had
spicy sleep with his wife was the same year he
had met me. Later, I found out that he had
been cheating on her ever since that they were engaged,
and he never stopped. Since his work allows him to
travel a lot, and he told me quote funny stories
about threesomes in Australia, one night stands in New Orleans
and getting hit all my girls in fancy hotel bars

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in Paris, sleeping with spicy dancers and waitresses at twin
peaks and nightclubs. That's actually one of the reasons why
I didn't think he was married, because if he was,
how could he get away with so much For almost
twenty five years. He even brought back a few women
to the house that he shared with his family. He
told me not to feel bad. If it wasn't me,
he would be with one of them. The guilt of
my part to play and my desire to do the

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right thing are now strongest. When I found out he
was married, I wanted to see his wife for myself,
to ask her what the deal was with their marriage.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
But if I'm going to be honest, I loved.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
Him too much and didn't have the strengths to give
him up, and it was if it was really full
on cheating. He told me recently, he was just telling
me he loved me in the past because he wanted
me to be his girlfriend.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Since those days three years ago, he's changed which is mine?
Who is this man?

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Honestly though, like, I'm like you kinda you've earned this.
I hope this is a big old wake up call
for you. I hope so, because what you worked to
get here, right he said?

Speaker 5 (15:14):
He said, Oh, like, man, I loved you, but I
just said that to you to get you to be
my girlfriend.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
And now three years later, I changed my mind.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
You should maybe not believe the things that come out
of the guy who openly flexes.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
He's cheated on his wife with twenty plus people.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
And three years ago. Dude, they've been together for three years.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Now, this girl, Yeah, call me the weekend because I'm
gonna say, girl, you earned it.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
He also said, I told my wife I'd love her
forever and promised to always be hers.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
But that's not true anymore, is it.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
His mask came completely off, and any love I used
to have for him has turned to absolute hatred.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Good.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
I never told his wife because I was weak and
because I loved him too much to hurt him. But
now it's different. His wife is a stay at home mom. Frankly,
he uses that fact to financially her. After a few years.
I saw the game he plays. He has a separate phone,
separate credit card, separate bank account that is actually his
dad's bank account that he has a debit card for.
He makes the money, pays the bills, pays the taxes,

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handles any finances and phone bills. His wife can use
their joint credit card whenever she wants, and he always
pays it, so she has no need to look into
their joint bank account. She probably never questions why their
bank account doesn't get direct posits from his.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
Work and is instead a transfer.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
She never asks questions how come their taxes say he
makes so much more than what ends up in their bank,
and she never asks questions about how come there are
extra credit cards being used by him that she doesn't
know about. I heard him say that he works and
makes money in their family, so he gets to have
fun and do whatever he wants. I laughed once because
he said he likes a woman with ambition who works.

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But that's funny because he cannot take any criticism. One
of his complaints about me, and really what he wants
is a woman who shuts up whenever he tells her
to stop asking questions and give freedom. I know that
she doesn't work, but she could become very wealthy if
she gets even half of his assets in a divorce.
He has a four oh one K and pension that
are worth several millions and a fully paid off house,

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in addition to several brokerage accounts.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
There is also a.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
Likelihood, if she gets a good lawyer, that there will
be clawbacks for the thousands in hotel rooms and restaurants
that he used for his infidelity over the years. I wonder,
as he claimed he was traveling for work but instead
going on date nights and sleeping over, could have Judge
subpedia his outlook calendar from work to verify if he
was traveling or not.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
Good question. There's a chance that she does not divorce him.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
They are Catholic and from a culture that excuses men
for cheating, especially as he has been providing her a
good lifestyle and an outwardly social picture of perfect life.
But I feel like she needs to make the decision herself,
after knowing everything.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Their youngest is now eighteen.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
And will go to college in the fall, so there
will be no child sport to pay, and everyone is
an adult and can decide their own relationship with him.
I thought many times about how I would tell her
I don't have her and can't find her on social media,
but I do know where they live. I know he
is traveling for work in Europe today and won't be home,
so I'm thinking of just ringing her doorbell in the
afternoon and talking to her face to face. I'll take
anything that comes at me. I'm prepared to be arrested

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for trespassing even if it comes to that. I'm prepared
for retaliation at work if it came to that, But
it would screw him over even more if he did that.
The last three years was not the person I wanted
to be, and I am so ashamed of myself. Any
relationship that I have in the future, I will disclose
everything that happened, and if it means I'm alone for
the rest of my life, so be it.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
There is an edits.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
I have texts, videos, pictures, and recorded him admitting to
the one night stand and shoote. I live in a
one party consent state. If a judge wants me to
make a statement, get subpoenaed, or be in a disposition,
I would be happy to. There are some comments, but
I want to hear your comments. Do you think that
talking face to face with this woman is a good idea. Nope, Yeah,

(18:53):
I'm a little worried for her. I do appreciate that
she's trying to make things right and trying to do
the right thing because because of her guilt. I do
appreciate that she's trying that.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yeah, but it's just like I think this is more
about you than that at that actual situation.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
It's kind of more about like you like making up
for it.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
I really de vibe to me is that she's probably
known what's going on. She's Catholic, she's not gonna divorce,
she's got the money, she's got. You know, she're gonna
walk in there and she's gonna be like this, just
leave me alone, and then you're gonna be upset and

(19:33):
just write her a letter, yeah, something where you could
just give it to her and then remove yourself. You
don't need to be involved in what she does after that.
It's out of your hands. You've done enough.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
I mean, I don't know if she knows, though, I think,
like it said that the the in the Catholic community
in her area, like that's the vibe. But but I
don't like, like it's funny.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
For you to be forgiven people but since they got engaged, though, you.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
Don't think talking about it, I don't think she would
like fine, or you don't think she would like I mean,
I don't know. It is surprising that he kept it
quiet for like twenty five years.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
It seems to be so wide open that it's like, yeah,
it's almost like he's like flaunting it where it's like
I can get away with anything, like she won't even
leave me check it out.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Oh man. Yeah, we're just so brazen, especially because it's
like the way that.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
He's treating her now, oh p yeah, by being like,
oh yeah, you think I was in love with you?

Speaker 2 (20:28):
I mean I'm not.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
That's crazy. Oh I forgot. That's not how you would
treat someone. You'd be like, he knows that she could
just go talk to his wife whenever. So if he
was actually afraid, I feel like he would have handled
that situation with more delicacy.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
But I could be wrong.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
It's just regardless though, it's like, you just tell her
the info that you have, you don't necessarily have to
do it face to face.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah, I like.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
Your letter idea, even if that says handle the letter
and walk away and she greet it later. There are
some comments. Comment Number one says, I would tell her.
Chances are she knows he's cheating, but probably doesn't know
the extent he is putting her.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
At risks of STIs too.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
I would go to her home and tell her in person,
and then just remove yourself from it. If she stays,
she stays. If she leaves, she leaves. Opie says, I
really don't think that she knows. They call each other amore,
and I see her sending him funny jokes through text.
At least, by some miracle, she did not have an
STI when he and I were together. I insisted that
he can get a test, and he showed me a

(21:31):
clean bill of health. Amazing how he's never had an STI.
Coming Number two says, tell her and tell her about
the secret accounts too. She needs all the information, Opie says, oh,
one hundred percent, especially his debit card to his dad's
bank account. His dad is older and has dementia, so
he's not monitoring the bank account. He would use his
own credit card and bank account to pay for things
his dad needs in his nursing home, and then use

(21:52):
his dad's card for his affairs. At the end of
the day, he's not taking anything more from his dad's money,
but by using his dad's bank account to pay for
his affairs, he's not using marital assets, so that may
not be clawed back. A judge may see differently, though
he may also get reamed for spending his dad's money
on his personal things. Of course, he can just say

(22:13):
that he's paying himself back for taking care of his dad.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
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Speaker 6 (22:20):
My in laws are demanding gifts even though we've been
no contact for years.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
That doesn't deserve any sort of present.

Speaker 6 (22:27):
I called my father this morning to see how they
were all doing. Before he said good morning, he asked,
what the f is a dorm shower? And why are
my in laws asking for money and gifts? By the way,
this comes from key conclusion five five eleven, And if
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Speaker 4 (22:44):
T'm separate it.

Speaker 6 (22:44):
So background, my husband, children adult teens now, and I
went no contact with my husband's entire immediate family and
most extended relatives since twenty sixteen. That's nine plus years
of not talking to, contacting, or having any type of
relationship or interactions. We gave them over twenty years of

(23:05):
chances and boundaries and consequences. That's to say it wasn't
a rash decision that was made selfishly or thoughtlessly through
the years. They send us in the actual USPS mail
because they're blocked everywhere else requests for gifts.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
They have their Amazon wish list. They're like, hey, literally,
I know we're not talking that. Look I've been eyeing
this one thing on Amazon right type HTTPS. You see.
They like to create registries, Oh my gosh, what I said,
Like you.

Speaker 6 (23:36):
Would for a bridle or baby shower, and fill them
with obscenely priced items for simple things like birthdays, Christmas,
graduation anniversaries, and every little eye.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Farted and therefore I deserve an expensive gift.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
Event On to last week into today, I called my
husband's on to catch up. She's the only one we're
still in contact with, and she gave me a heads
up that my in laws were trying to get her
to pay.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
They use the term donate.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
Over one hundred thousand dollars, not a typo for the
Golden granddaughter's dorm fees because we're family and we need
to stick together and do our part.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
Why aren't you doing your part to pay for her? Yeah?
Why aren't you doing your part? Doesn't make sense.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
Right, Like you're I feel like part of your part
would be to like talk to your family. Yeah, Like
imagine getting getting this from people that are like bloodlines,
wait down the line, Like, yeah, they're like your family
from I know, your third cousin twice removed, but your family,
and you gotta give me one hundred thousand.

Speaker 6 (24:39):
Dollars exactly, Like, no, not, how I actually will not
be doing that. When the lady, who is living a
modest life and on Social Security, said absolutely not, they
then send her an invitation via text to the dorm shower,
and husband's aunt said it was beyond ridiculous not to
mention the request for straight up cash when she graduated.

(24:59):
In the meanwhile, while I'm getting texts and calls from
old acquaintances and childhood friends. We all grew up in
the same town and in law still live there, but
we've moved about four hours away, saying that my in
laws are pestering them and trying to get a hold
of our information because we changed our cell numbers and
blocked them everywhere we digitally could. Last week, in the mail,

(25:20):
I received an actual printed invite along with registry information
not one place, but three separate stores, and because we
were curious, we my whole family found it comical, took
a peak.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
The cheapest thing on there was a.

Speaker 6 (25:35):
Pack of washcloths in the sixty dollars range, followed by
a power strip at one hundred and twenty dollars, and
the prices went up from there, including items in the
two thousand dollars range. They even had commercial type appliances,
which you can't even take or use in a dorm room. Yeah,
because they're like, she really needs this new oven, not us,

(25:58):
she needs it for herroom.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
Yeah, but like mail it to us and then we'll
move it to the dorm room. It'll just be easier
that way, Yeah, exactly. So why are they even on there?
Then the phone calls started rolling in, which were sent
to voicemail from phone numbers we aren't familiar with. Mother
in law ended up leaving a message husband's name.

Speaker 7 (26:17):
This is your mom, niece's name is going away for
college and we need you to contribute one hundred thousand
dollars for her dorm. We also sent you, apparently the
rest of us no longer exist, an invitation to our
dorm shower, and a picture from our graduation, which had
requests for straight up money without even hosting a party.
Don't disappoint us because you owe it to your niece

(26:37):
and sister.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
First of all, no to the effity note. Second, niece's
parents make more than half a million a year. They
both work for the state, love to brag, and their
salaries are posted found that out from aunt. So shouldn't
they easily be able to afford their child's dorm necessities.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
Third, my husband and I have her own.

Speaker 6 (26:57):
Two children in university, one going into sophomore year and
one going into junior year, and we never made any
grand announcements, much less requests for money. They also choose
to stay local in order to save money. I mean,
it's not the problem is not that, you know, I
feel like grad parties are.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Very common people. Yeah, usually you don't.

Speaker 6 (27:18):
Request money, but uh right, but you can be like, hey,
like if I don't need these gifts, I'm saving up
for something, like you could rephrase.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
It that way.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
It's weird to reach out to your family who you're
no contact with. Yeah, and ask for one hundred thousand dollars.
That's that's an intense amount of money that you can't
just ask for. Fourth, what the effort you're trying to
get money and gifts out of my parents and other
elderly relatives. Aren't their laws against swindling senior citizens. My
husband dropped everything into the shreudter and I erased the

(27:48):
voicemail with full intent of remaining and maintaining no contact.
In the last two hours, I've gotten six calls from
numbers I don't know, but area codes that are from
the area, with nobody leaving any messages. WTF, Just when
you think you're out, they try to pull you back
into their e fery, so f and tired and the

(28:08):
nerve to do that. They didn't even bother asking about
their biological grandchildren that they claim to love with all
their hearts. Yeah, where's their hudred K. Yeah, there is
an edit and an update, folks, But do you have
any thoughts?

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (28:23):
It just that's just so ridiculous, so ridiculous that you
can't even respond to it.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
I'm glad they just put it in the shutter and
just need Yeah, it's like what you even say trying
to interact, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Because that's really like, like, you know, it's not going
towards any of that stuff, No, not at all. You know,
it's not.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
They're they're getting kicked out of their house or something,
or they've gotten into substances or gambling or something like
that and they're down on cash.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
So some reason they need the money.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
Yeah, it's not going like I feel like they're going
to give your or their granddaughter like thirty bus You're
like happy.

Speaker 5 (29:01):
Graduation, right right, It's like that's a a lot.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
You're very far away from that one hund thousand.

Speaker 6 (29:09):
Yeah, but there isn't edits. I'm so sorry that I
didn't explain it correctly. To be clear, it's two separate things.
Request one one hundred thousand dollars for dorm fees and boardings,
so essentially rent and food.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Request to dorm shower.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
Registering for gifts at specific stores that people are expected
to buy for you off a list produced and chosen.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
By the graduate.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Edit too.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
How did mother in law get the number?

Speaker 2 (29:33):
We don't know.

Speaker 6 (29:35):
We did have a friend say that they gave out
our address, which they had anyway, Why why'd the friend
do that? Yeah, we have friends in my family that
still live there. Our hometown that we both me and
my husband grew up in. Many people go to the
same church weekly, and many of the in laws attend.
That's the most probable place. We still give our new
numbers to our friends and family. Mother in law managed

(29:57):
to get our new number, and nobody has confessed to giving.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
It to her.

Speaker 6 (30:01):
I'm also getting a lot of calls from random numbers
I don't know, and they're not leaving voicemails that coincide
with mother in law calling. Mother in law as of
right now, has left a single message. Reverse directory on
the other numbers doesn't give me information somehow, at the
very least, mother in law has.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
Gotten our number.

Speaker 6 (30:18):
We don't know if the other calls are related to
mother in law because they don't leave voicemails, but considering
the uptick in calls and the message from mother in law,
we think it's related to each other. No further voicemails
at this time and relevant comments. What is Opie's husband's
take on the situation. Opie says, as of now, he
wants to maintain no contact, which is the smartest move

(30:40):
for sure, Opie says. Prior to the no contact, he
was a diplomatic fensitter and it infuriated me because his
silence was the equivalent of acceptance. I credit our children
for somewhat dragging him out of the fog. But it's
been a two steps forward, one step back deal, and
there are cultural expectations and dysfunction that come into play.

(31:00):
Brainwashing would be the best way to describe it, and
doing what they wanted was his easiest choice. These people
are not normal or controllable, and they are very large family.
Mother in law has six siblings. Father in law has five.
Each sibling has a minimum of three children and one
had ten, oh with two passing away in their middle age.
Those children have gotten married and have children. When you

(31:23):
oppose one, you become their enemy. So picture a NonStop
barrage of Bible thumping and telling you that you're all
going a heck and curse. In our family and children,
conversations don't work. We gave them over twenty years of chances.
I refuse to fight and I refuse to submit. Therefore
we ignore. Commenter one says, and how is letting you
be subjected to pesterments somehow, not him imploding your marriage,

(31:46):
because you sound like you're at your wits end with
these people and he refuses to take steps. Well, okay,
now it sounds like he has taken steps. He went
no contact with thems. Not really his fault that they're
finding ways.

Speaker 5 (31:59):
To Yeah, I mean they didn't give their address or
their number.

Speaker 6 (32:03):
Like, yeah, a season desist letter might work, no need
to even go to court. But your husband prefers to
bury his head in the sand and let you be pestered.
Opie says, you're not wrong, but there's more to the story.
That doesn't make anything easy. But I'm not naive, and
there's a plan in place if things go south. He's trying,
and I'm giving him grace to change and learn. But
I'm not stupid, and my patience isn't infinite. But I

(32:25):
do think, like it's not just like he's trying, like
he did do something. They are no contact. That's not nothing. Yeah,
he went no contact with his entire family.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Yeah, and it's been like twenty years. Yeah, of no contact.
That's like pretty significant.

Speaker 6 (32:39):
Oh yeah, that doesn't mean op has, you know, doesn't
have a right to be upset about the current stuff
that's going on. But like I think to say, like, oh,
you're to be married to a guy that like lets
his family walk off, like he won no contact.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
Yeah, Like it's he's not letting them, No, he's not. Op.

Speaker 6 (32:54):
He provides some context and an example of her in
law's entitlement. My in laws didn't approve of our marriage.
They didn't want us to succeed. They thought that without
them and their help and influence, we would be nothing.
They're probably asking OP and her husband at their wedding
for one hundred k.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
They're like, for your wedding, we would like one hundred k.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
Right now that you're a part of the family, officially
you have to contribute.

Speaker 6 (33:16):
Yeah, there's the wedding registry and then there's the in
law registry.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:20):
We proved them wrong. If we had anything or were
successful in any capacity, they couldn't stand it. Example, we
bought our first condo. They felt entitled and wanted keys
so they could come and go as they pleased.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
I said no.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
They waited till we were at work, oh my goodness,
and tried getting in using a locksmith.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
So they tried to break in what are they not
in jail?

Speaker 6 (33:42):
Honestly, they claimed to be the owners and said, look,
their name is on the butter and they hadn't have
time to change their driver's license. The locksmith went to
the manager's office because they often had spare keys, and
because I had been in and out of the manager's
office getting approvals for our renovations. They knew right away
that they weren't the owner and called the police. We

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showed up and we're talking to the manager. We pulled
up to see my in laws standing next to the
cop car along with another officer. They explain what happened.
We reaffirmed that they had no right to enter. They
asked us if he wanted to press charge. His husband
said no, I okay, I would.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
You should have press charged. They tried to break into
your house.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
Yeah, but I begged the officer to scare the crap
out of them, and he kindly did. This is not
even the worst of it. So their logic is to
constantly take everything they can take, so we get overrun
with debt while they keep progressing and achieving, thus proving
to everyone that we were losers and.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
They predicted it. Why did they try?

Speaker 6 (34:39):
Because they can and they think eventually they're going to
be successful.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
And there is an update eight days later.

Speaker 6 (34:46):
Wow, I do say, I do think that if they're
trying to break in, like that's the level of stuff.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
Yeah, she'd get a restraining order or something like.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
File chargers something. Yeah, because yeah, and then I'm sure,
like I mean they deleted in like shredded things. But
like if they keep getting letters and voicemails and stuff
like that, like that's stuff. So it's like you could
you have always proof?

Speaker 4 (35:10):
Yeah, you could.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
Add all that up, like and maybe that will make
them stop. Like bring if you are just ignoring them,
isn't going to make them stop?

Speaker 4 (35:18):
Maybe the law can.

Speaker 6 (35:20):
Maybe the law has something to say about it. Update
eight days later. We are maintaining no contact, no gifts
or donations of one hundred thousand dollars because what they
ultimately want is a reaction or contact. We refuse to fight,
and we refuse to submit. Therefore we ignore. Our silence
is clear message that they don't hold any value in

(35:43):
our lives, and that drives them absolutely crazy. Google Voice
has been set up and everything else is being blocked
on the landline. If they don't leave a message or
aren't part of our contacts. Mother in law at this
point has left a single message, but we received at
least fifty calls last time I counted from numbers that
we don't know, but we suspect our mother in law's
flying monkeys. I still don't understand why they're asking for

(36:04):
one hundred thousand dollars for dorm rent and food, because
anyway I look at it, the math ain't mathen That's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
I spoke to my cousin, a lawyer not in my area,
and gave her all the information and asked her if
anything could be done. She reached out to.

Speaker 6 (36:18):
A retired colleague who used to practice and now teaches,
and they basically said to continue to ignore because legally
not much can be done.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Annoying, but it is what it is. Now on to
the gossip.

Speaker 6 (36:30):
My dad and uncles are part of the church board
and have been for decades. They, the board, secretary, and
clergy get together every Monday and review the week ahead,
deal with issues, and approve or reject anything that needs
to be dealt with. Pretty standard stuff. The in laws
attend the church but aren't really active in terms of committees.
Fundraising and activities planning. Mother in law has volunteered once

(36:52):
at a bake sale in the forty plus years of
living in the community and attending this church. The church
has a huge banquet room that includes a stage, bar area,
and fountain. It's used for church functions, plays, bazaars, dinner dances, parties,
and can be rented out.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
For a fee.

Speaker 6 (37:10):
Everyone pays some sort of fee. The fee is a
complete breakdown of everything. There are two prices, one for
stewards members that pay yearly membership to the church, and
one for non stewards, non members or anyone else who
would like to rent the space. If you're a member,
then you get the rentals that cost, so the church
doesn't really make anything extra on the rental. If you're
not a member, then there's an op charge for using

(37:32):
the space. Mother in law and sister in law want
to rent the space because they're anticipating two hundred plus
people for the dorm shower. Why is it a dorm shower?
Could it have just been a graduation party? I know,
I've never heard of the dorm shower. It's a grad party, Yeah,
that's what it is. Like.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
It sounds like they're all gonna huddle up into this
tiny little dorm that's like probably half hers and then
throw a little party.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Yeah, no one's gonna fit in there. Exactly, exactly, no
one's gonna fit.

Speaker 6 (38:00):
They filled in a request online that requires you to
input your information, steward number, information about what the party
is for, how many people, what vendors, if there will
be liquor, and special requests. The board reviews it and
if they have questions, they make follow up calls. The
secretary had mother in law on speakerphone so that everyone
could listen and ask questions if needed. They aren't current stewards.

(38:22):
Last time they were stewards was when their kids were little.
No judgment, just explaining they used their steward number from
decades ago and played stupid when the secretary said that
they need to be current stewards in order to get
the discount. They know this because they tried to bowl
the same crap for sister in law's big bridal shower.
You had a total of five as well as the

(38:42):
christenings of her children. Sheared a total of five bridal showers.
Whats how that's there's too many. The church has to
pull a variety of permits depending on what type of
party you're having, insurance plus security, liquor permits, custodians, and
a few other things. I'm sure I'm forgetting. There's a
pre approved list of vendors that you need to choose
from if you want to serve food or liquor, and

(39:04):
they set their own prices separately from the church if
you want to runt the space. Those are the rules
and have been for over thirty years. If you follow
the rules, then it's pretty seamless, and I've used them
plenty of times throughout the years without any issues. Mother
in law then try to negotiate the price because they
have volunteered so much throughout the years. Once you volunteered once,

(39:27):
then she tries to say that they're going to bring
in their own food and liquor, which we know they
can't because there's a license for it.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
These people man piece of work. Wowee man, oh wow.
I mean I don't know how you even put up
with them at all.

Speaker 5 (39:44):
Yeah, it does suck. They still like live relatively nearby, yeah,
like four hours.

Speaker 6 (39:49):
But also it seems like you live nearby other family
members and other friends, right, so there's still some kind
of overlap.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
Yeah, and which is tricky that they're involved in the church. Still,
it's like ever, everyone just needs they need to be
far away from other people.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
I agree, because they're they're not acting how people should.

Speaker 6 (40:08):
Know they're acting, how people shouldn't. Yes, and there is
a little bit left to this story, so I should
finish it. Church said you have to use the preapproved
vendors or you can't serve food or beverages. Then mother
in law pivots and wants to charge a fee to
enter and have a cash bar so she can use
the space and knowing her up charge to make a profit. Yes,

(40:30):
use the church's space to up charge, that's.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
Crazy, so wild. The church explains that there would be
additional paperwork and fees for that paperwork. Mother in law
doesn't like that and says to just forget it.

Speaker 6 (40:43):
Under special request, she wants the choir to donate a performance,
and at the end they wanted to do some sort
of parade. My dad said that they were all just
sitting there shaking their heads at the ridiculousness of mother
in law. The fact that the party is supposed to
happen supposedly the first week of August, with the address
on the original invite being sister in law's house address.

(41:04):
So two hundred plus people are going to go into
a residential neighborhood with limited parking for a dorm shower.
I'm sure it'll be as classy as they are.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
My in laws tried to have their wedding on my
property after I already rejected it.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
Not around a year partner.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
My brother in law I.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
Was thirty let's call him Duke, and my sister in
law at twenty five let's call her a Deana, have
been together for two years.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
This summer they had their wedding. I am still reeling.
Let's start from the beginning, Okay.

Speaker 5 (41:37):
Duke and Diana got engaged winter of twenty twenty three.
In spring of twenty twenty four, they were evacuated from
where they lived twelve hours north of us because of
a forest fire. Oh of course we said that they
could stay with us. This included them and their two
large dogs. We live on an acreage and have two
large dogs ourselves, so.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
This isn't an issue, or so we thought.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
No.

Speaker 5 (41:59):
By the way, that's from a mess patient eight two
six four on the Charlotte Dover YouTube supreddit and if
you want to submit your own stories, go to the
hour slash Okay, Storytime, Sepreddit. So Duke, Indiana enjoy some
recreational activities, which is legal where we live to.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
Each their own.

Speaker 5 (42:14):
However, we at the time had two young children and
now we have three. Legal or not, there are no
substances allowed in our home. They were respectable of this
rule and kept it outside, although our home reeked the
entire time while they were here. They would not take
care of their large, hyperdogs, and it became my responsibility.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Oh no, no, no.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
My husband works full time and I am at home
with the kids. Their dogs are not well behaved, and
I did not feel comfortable taking care of large dogs
constantly jumping at me and starting fights.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
With our dogs. Our dogs are large, but lazy and
they don't jump truly.

Speaker 6 (42:47):
Like the second that I start seeing this behavior, yeah,
I'm like, uh, sorry, you need to take care of
your dogs.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
This is unacceptable behavior if you want to continue to
live here. Yeah, you address that immediately imediately.

Speaker 6 (43:00):
Like the second that you have to start taking care
of their dogs and they're being aggressive with yours.

Speaker 5 (43:06):
I promise the dogs are relevant. They would leave late at.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
Night and drive high. I don't want to have to.

Speaker 5 (43:11):
Deal with that responsibility if anything happens to them. Anyways,
during that time that my brother in law, let's say Tim,
got married that year, while they were down here for
the evacuation, he is brothers with my husband and Duke.
Duke and Diana were late to help with setup and
over an hour late to the intimate rehearsal dinner because
they were napping, which was not really they.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Were okay, no, well, both of those excuses are dumb.
Absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 6 (43:38):
I also would I think I would be really pissed
if someone told me they were napping and that's why
they missed something.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
I feel like, yeah, the.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Truth set alarm. Yeah, come on, come on.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
Throughout the wedding, Diana was commenting about all the things
that she would never do at her wedding. It was
a classy and well done wedding. It's clear from so
many small instances that they have no respect for others,
their boundaries, property, or time.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
I mean, what did they know about class? Yeah, clearly nothing.

Speaker 5 (44:06):
Well, they stayed with us for three weeks waiting to
be allowed back into their home.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Nothing was damaged. They planned their wedding.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
Sort of they asked if they could have their wedding
on our property. No, this is where my husband and
I got married in the height of the VID before
my husband bought the house.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
It was family land.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
We said we would consider it because it could be
considered a special spot to duke.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
After three weeks they went back up north.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
My husband and I talked about it and decided that
we could not host a wedding for them.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
That summer. I became pregnant with.

Speaker 5 (44:33):
Our third My husband works a lot of overtime in
the summer, and they were aiming to get married in
July twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
We didn't think we would be able to get the house.

Speaker 5 (44:42):
Or property wedding ready as well, I didn't want to
have to host a wedding while caring for three young children,
as our baby would be a newborn at the time.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
And you know, you would have to do everything absolutely.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
They wouldn't even take care of their own dogs.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
And on top of that, much of Deanna's family partakes
in reck creational activities and we couldn't trust that these
people we didn't know would respect our rules of no
devils let us in the house. Now, the one thing
this family lacks is communication the one thing, and we
must take responsibility for our lack of communication. They said
that they thought our place would make a good venue.

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They did not say for sure that they wanted to
get married there, so we waited to hear about more
wedding plans. We didn't want to have to say no
and be a holes if they choose a different venue.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
I think that's fair. I don't even think that's a
lack of communication on your end.

Speaker 6 (45:31):
I think it's just them being like, oh, it'd be
nice to have a wedding gear, and you're like, hmmm, yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
They didn't say, hey, can we have the wedding here?

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Right right?

Speaker 5 (45:39):
Yeah, and like hopefully you guys didn't say like, oh, yeah,
that would be nice.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
As long as you didn't say that, right, you're fine.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
We assumed after announcing our pregnancy that they wouldn't expect
us to host with a new baby. We told family
about the baby in August twenty twenty four. They never
followed up with us, and since we didn't agree to hosting,
we assumed that they found a different wedding venue. Fast
forward February twenty twenty five. I am as pregnant as
it gets, and honestly, my mental health wasn't great. Duke

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and Deana sent out wedding invites location my address when July.
Of course, No, that's crazy. What and now the invite's
already out.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
That's insane.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
I was livid.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
My husband, who was also upset, handled it very well.
He told them that we were.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
Unable to accommodate them, and he was much kinder about
it than I would have been. We expected a fight,
but they agreed to change the venue. We appreciated that greatly.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
Okay, okay, okay, and it.

Speaker 5 (46:38):
Was e invites, so it was not costly to change
or wesend free. In fact, now you may have already
decided that I'm the a hole for making them change
their venue.

Speaker 4 (46:47):
No, no, not at all.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
No, But let me paint a picture for you of
their wedding and celebration. After we said our place was
a no go, they had to look for another venue,
but it was difficult because they wanted a specific date,
a Thursday.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
Weird. J We thought that was weird. But whatever.

Speaker 5 (47:04):
My husband asked to why that day was so important,
and we were told you.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
Aren't allowed to ask. Okay, what's a secret. It's a secret,
don't ask me.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
It'sant It's important because of Nuanya business.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
Now it's the end of June and they are.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
Getting married at the beginning of July. As expected, this
wedding is messy and unorganized. At this point, they have
had one and a half years to plan and prep
for this wedding. All decores, Ye, why and so was
mine for my wedding? My mom and I did it
all during our six month engagement. Duke Indiana have done
none of it beforehand. Everything is brought down. They still
got married down here to be made and done, only

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two weeks before the wedding. During this time, they are
staying with mother in law and father in law because
I was not hosting and caring for their insane dogs.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
With young children and a new baby.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
The family thinks I'm ridiculous for not catering to the
knees of the precious family Fave and his doom to
be born. They try to passive aggressively encourage us to
take the dogs to our house because there is more
space on our property.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
We did not cave. I started to wonder if I'm
being the a hole.

Speaker 5 (48:10):
It is their wedding, maybe I should be more lenient,
but apparently Deiana doesn't like anything mother in law cooks.
I don't always agree with my mother in law and
we don't always get along, but she's a good woman
and she would cook anything for anyone. And sister in
law keep saying, oh no, I don't like that and
won't eat it with the family. She will only go
get fast food after the meal.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
That's so rude, dude.

Speaker 5 (48:32):
If someone is like letting you stay with them, even
for anything, like especially a wedding, like yeah, and you're
not gonna eat their cooking.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
That's crazy.

Speaker 6 (48:41):
If someone was staying with me and they were like
and I was like, yeah, like I cooked it, and
they're like yeah, and.

Speaker 5 (48:46):
Then you do cook and afterwards they get fast food
because they don't like it.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
I would be heartbroken, I tell much.

Speaker 5 (48:54):
I like, like, I feel like, if you really really
didn't like whatever someone's cooking for you offered cook yourself.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
Yeah, like you for everyone? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (49:03):
Yeah, like come on, father in law cooks a steak
and she requests a hot dog instead.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
What this is?

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Like me?

Speaker 4 (49:12):
This is like how I was as a child.

Speaker 6 (49:14):
Yeah, your parent gives you like pasta and you're like, yeah,
I want chicken.

Speaker 5 (49:18):
Nig yeah exactly. They of course give her what she
wants what, But suddenly mother law is very upset when
they leave to stay at a hotel a few days
before the wedding and she is left to care for
the dogs and the cats. Yes, they brought their cats
because apparently there's no house sitter or animal caretaker where
they live, and that's why we didn't want the animals
at our house.

Speaker 6 (49:39):
Well, uh a dendum, no free house. Yeah, cat sitter exactly.
That's a very important note.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
My daughter had her second birthday the first week of
July and it was great to have them in town
so everyone could come for the party. Just a super
chill ween or roast. Sister in law is upset that
it's hot dogs and won't eat anything.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
She doesn't want hot dogs. Come on, girl, make up
your mind.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
Mind It Unfortunately rains and we have to move the
party inside. She sits outside and will not come in
to do cake in presents with her knees.

Speaker 6 (50:09):
She's getting soaked eating a hot dog or not eating
a hot dog today.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
I don't know what she's eating today. Why are you
staying outside? You're crazy?

Speaker 5 (50:16):
I know my daughter won't remember, but it frustrates me
when my family won't make an effort with my kids.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
She's too just come and have cake with her.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
Supposedly she has social anxiety, which is fair, but except
she sure didn't have any during her wedding celebration.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
Which I promise we will get to. It wasn't a big.

Speaker 5 (50:34):
Birthday party, just a little celebration with family and a
couple close friends.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
So it's the day before the wedding.

Speaker 5 (50:39):
I go with lots of other family to help decorate
and set up the hall. But we aren't setting up.
We are making the decorations they've had, they've had a
year and a half.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
We're making signs, bouquets with fake flowers. You had all
been done.

Speaker 5 (50:56):
Advance centerpieces, painting signs, and making and decorating an arch.
Nothing was organized. We went out to grab more supplies.
It was thirty degrees celsius in a building with no ac.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
Ooh, and it's hot. Yeah, that's not too hot, but
with no ac that is hot. That's a hot, you know,
like that's like a yeah something ay.

Speaker 5 (51:17):
Her dad had to stop helping to bathe his dogs.
It was wild. I worked hard, and so did everyone else.
They worked their butts off to pull this wedding together
for Duke and Deanna, because despite my.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
Bad attitude, we do love them. So rehearsal.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
The chaplain isn't there to run the rehearsal, so we
are missing a groomsman, and the littlest flower girl eighteen
months old, isn't there to practice.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
Deanna is looking lost, so I offered a help.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
I'm no expert, but I've been to a lot of
weddings recently and explain how things are usually done, and
I ask if she wants me to step in or
if she wants me to just sit and be quiet.
She did ask for my help, so I directed the processional.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
It's messy, but we practice and it's okay.

Speaker 5 (51:55):
She's very specific about the timing of her entrance, which
I get the little parts. I told her we might
have to loop the song as it's quite a long
walk down a hill to where they are saying their vows.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
Don't worry, it's relevant. So finally, the day of the wedding,
Are we ready?

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Every were ready? We ready?

Speaker 4 (52:14):
We get to the hall.

Speaker 5 (52:15):
Deanna is there not ready, freaking out about the dcorseto
the groom and grooms men are almost laid because they
realized that morning that he didn't have a tie.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
They also had to stop and grab sorry what Yeah, yeah,
he didn't have a tie. He didn't have one tie.
That's crazy, dude.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
They also had to stop and grab booze for the
wedding the morning of, because why would we be prepared.
When Duke gets there, Deanna starts fighting with him about
stuff that he was supposed to do but didn't.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
It's a mess.

Speaker 5 (52:44):
Finally, whatever the heck is going on is resolved, and
she keeps getting ready. The wedding ceremony starts thirty minutes late.
In the grand scheme of things not bad, probably the
best part of the day, so things are off to
a rocky start. No one thought to bring the speakers
out for the music. We finally get it set up
and we can start. I'm at the top of the
hill with the flower girls and ring bearer. Two of

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the four kiddos are mine. My son is almost four
and he's the oldest. I asked him to hold the
littlest girl's hand to help her down the hill, and
most eighteen month old kids haven't been walking for long
and they certainly haven't mastered hills. Music is playing. The
bridal party is making their entrance, but not fast enough.
Deanna starts freaking out. Why aren't they going fast enough?

(53:26):
I said, it's.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Okay, we can loop the song.

Speaker 5 (53:28):
The Grandma's took a little longer going down the hill
than expected. They were walked down the hill with help,
but old ladies take a while.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
She snaps at me. No one gets how important it
is until it's their moment. Okay, Well, it wasn't that
important to you, clearly because we plan anything.

Speaker 5 (53:43):
Yeah, like, why are you starting at the top of
a hill for your walk down the aisle? You're supposed
to start, like where the people are sitting? Yeah, my guy,
I doubt you have enough people at this party to
be up stations.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
Of the cross. Let's make it a little easier. Come on.
I didn't say anything. I don't want to be rude.

Speaker 5 (54:01):
It's her wedding and it can be stressful, but I,
of all people, get it. I replanned my wedding four
times during the VID to follow all the rules. She
throws her phone to me. It's connected to the speakers
with the music, and she doesn't want to carry her
phone in the aisle.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
There.

Speaker 5 (54:14):
Now it's time for the children to go. My son
is going slow because the little girl can barely walk
and it's downhill. Deanna snaps at the kids to hurry up.
They turn around and start coming back up because they
think that they're.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
Doing something wrong.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Aw.

Speaker 5 (54:29):
She snaps again and grabs the littlest one and barrels
down the aisle. My son is sensitive and starts to
cry because this ant that he barely knows is yelling
at him, and there's lots of people around that he
doesn't know. I take my kids and go sit down.
I can only imagine what pictures look like. And somehow
it doesn't end here. They have super fast vows, and

(54:50):
here's the twist. The chaplain announces that they are already
married and it's their one year anniversary.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
Hike one of those things jokes on you. You've just
been pranked.

Speaker 5 (55:06):
No one says anything, no one collapsed, and they kiss.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
There's absolute silence.

Speaker 5 (55:14):
It's a fake wedding, she yelled at my kids for
a fake moment.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
It's fine to a lope, and.

Speaker 5 (55:21):
It's okay to celebrate at a different date if you
can't afford it, But to lie to everyone for a
whole year. Now we know why the day was so special. Yeah,
they weren't allowed to ask because it's their anniversary.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
Anniversary. Yeah, my gosh, that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (55:36):
And a year before they posted a pick of both
of them at wearing rings and I asked, did you
guys get married? And she said no, it's a men's
engagement ring. My husband was in the wedding party, so
of course he was in the photos. They had to
take multiple breaks during photos to light up and get
some fresh air.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
They were over an hour late for the reception.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Wild.

Speaker 5 (55:57):
Everyone at the wedding is pleasant, but it for sure
put a damper on the whole mood. Not gonna lie,
I checked out, I did not help with clean up.
I wasn't gonna drag my kids back to the hall
for another day. And my husband wasn't taking another day
off work for this.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
He was hurt his brother got married and didn't tell
him or anyone about it.

Speaker 6 (56:15):
If I found out that Sam got married and I
didn't know, I'd be devastated.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
I would be so sad. But I have a very
close relationship with my brother. Yeah, if I you know,
maybe maybe Opie's husband doesn't have that closed. I don't know. Yeah, yeah,
but uh, I say, yeah, Sam's not allowed to do. Yeah.
My cousin told me to take our gift back. I
thought about it, but we didn't.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
Many people traveled so far for this wedding, anywhere from
five to twenty three hours of driving or flights for
a fake wedding for a joke.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Well, I will say, I don't think it was a joke. Yeah,
I wouldn't call it.

Speaker 6 (56:50):
I think it was a ceremony to celebrate and they
were trying to do a whole because I have I
have seen the trend that you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
Yeah, and regardless of.

Speaker 6 (56:56):
What like I would do or not, right, I do
think it's it's not fair to say it's fake.

Speaker 4 (57:01):
It is still a ceremony. Yeah, but I understand that
you're hurt.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Right, right.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
There were so many small things that happened. My husband
did not hide how he was feeling. Deanna asked me,
is your husband mad at me? He seemed kind of grumpy.
I just laughed and walked away. So am id a hole.
I didn't let them have their wedding at my house.
I didn't help with cleanup, and I don't want them
to stay at my house again. I feel like they
have no respect for time, property or boundaries of others,

(57:28):
and I don't want her around yelling at my kids
that she won't take the time to make an effort
with am I overreacting. At the end of the day,
it doesn't really matter because it wasn't a real wedding.

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Speaker 3 (57:45):
My best friend accused me of cheating on him platonically.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Not a thing. That's quit. That's not a thing.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
I'm in the middle of an ongoing argument with my
best friend, my female nineteen best friend male at nineteen
and I have been closed for three years. I have
quite a large social circle, but it has always been
common knowledge that Matt is the person I'm obviously fondest of.
People know that, and it's no secret that we spend
most of our time with each other. By the way,
this country, mus are soft savings four one two six,

(58:13):
and if you want to submit your own stories, go
to the r slash joke story time subbreddit. So things
were absolutely fine until this week. I was invited on
a five day camping trip with some of my coursemates
at college. We spend a lot of time together and
wanted to celebrate the end of the semester by saving
up to go somewhere for reference. Matt isn't part of
this group because he does another major, so it didn't

(58:35):
really come up in conversation before this point because he
hardly knows these people and.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
It didn't seem like a big deal to me.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
The trip is scheduled for the start of August, and
I told Matt at the start of this week that
I was going. He went silent, and when I asked
him what was the matter, he said that it was
weird how I put that much money in time aside
for people I've only known since September. I told him
that's ridiculous, because we spend a lot of time together
as a group and we're good friends. He still went

(59:01):
on to say that we've never traveled together and he's
got two years on them. Then he said, it's like
I'm a platonic cheater, quote unquote. I feel bad because
my first instinct was to laugh a bit, because honestly,
I didn't expect him to come out with that, but
he hung up the phone and wouldn't answer my texts.
I don't know what to do about this because I
can't find it in me to apologize. I'm not a cheater,

(59:23):
and I feel like he's making me out to be
the a hole for having friends besides him. To be honest,
I think the reason we've never traveled alone is because
it'd be a solo trip between two members of the opposites,
and frankly.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
It'd feel like dating territory.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
It's just not appropriate and I'd rather travel in a group.
But Matt's friends aren't my friends, and my friends aren't his.
It's not that I think he'd come on to me
or anything, but I think that's the type of thing I'd.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Rather reserve for a boyfriend.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
By the way, this will be my first traveling experience
done with friends rather than family. So am I the
a hole for choosing to vacation with relatively new friends
instead of my best friend of three years? So there's
an edit here from the next day. I rang Matt
today after reading the comments from this morning, asked and
asked if we could meet up to talk in person
because I'm not happy about the silent treatment.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
We argued on Wednesday night.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
He'll said he'll come over after his shift on Tuesday,
so I guess i'll update if we resolve. I'll probably
be the only one doing this because I don't want.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
To drag the situation. So whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
He didn't apologize over the phone. By the way, and
there's some more comments here from Ope. A commenter says
he seems to think you're his girlfriend or something. Right,
Opie says people do often mistake us for a couple.
A commenter says, not the a hole. You are allowed
to have other close friendships and go on trips with
whoever you want. Matt is acting possessive and framing your

(01:00:45):
choice as betrayal, which is unfair and emotionally immature. It's
okay for him to feel left out, but it's not
okay to guilt you over it. You've done nothing wrong
by saying yes to a fun opportunity with your college friends.
If he values the friendship, he'll talk it out once
he cools down. Ope, He replies, thank you. I'm trying
to assure myself of that. But he has been a

(01:01:06):
rock for me, so he's kind of got me thinking
I've betrayed him in a way, which sounds crazy, But
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
I mean, like there is.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Something to be said about like completely abandoning like old
friends for like the new hotness or whatever, like, but
I don't feel like that's what's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Happening, because you told him about the trip a week
before it happened. You were actively hanging out, like.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
Yeah exactly, And I mean, do we know how old
these people are?

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Nineteen?

Speaker 5 (01:01:30):
Yeah, hey, yeah, Like it feels like a very high
school thing and a nineteen year out of high school now,
but like it feels like a very high school thing
to not understand that, like people can do things without
like either the entire friend group or like without everyone
that you know, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
Like it's a big thing to go on a trip.

Speaker 5 (01:01:50):
Yeah, but like even though it's a big deal, it
doesn't mean that everyone has to be involved.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
Yeah, just let it, let it be. Come on, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Another commenter says, Matt, that is obviously into you and
not telling you. Opie says peace.

Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Top comment is, girl, I think your friend likes you.
Why else would someone come up with platonic cheater? Give
me a break. Opie's like, I thought it was because
we're so close, am I effingdnse? No, you're nineteen about
being more than friends, Opie says, I'm starting to worry
that is the case, which I don't think would end well,
because we have been so close and opened up about

(01:02:25):
so much that it's almost too vulnerable.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
You know, like our relationship is not a casual friendship.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
We know deep things about the other's life, and I
feel like that's too intense for a budding and dating relationship.
Does that make sense, Opie continues, I guess I would
have to interrogate him over that. I feel like I'm
in my I feel like in my head he's always
been an off limits person because we're so close, and
so even when there were times I considered us being
something more, I never entertained the thought. It's weird he's

(01:02:51):
off limits, but not because I would never be attracted
to him or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
He is attractive objectively.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Before we were actually friends, my first impression of him
was that he was attractive.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
It's because I don't know or think it would work.
I don't know. I'm just yapping now.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Another commenter says, not the AO, I don't think Matt
is into you necessarily. I mean, it's possible, but there's
no certainty of that, and I wish people would stop
suggesting that just because they're of the opposite.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Genders and best friends.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
I've had plenty of jealous friends that weren't romantically interested
in me, and I have been scared of being replaced
in friendships before, when I was much younger.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Opie, maybe plan a day trip with Matt.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Something that takes a few hours or so to get to,
so you can go there and back without having to
get a hotel room in all the rigamarole. Go to
a city, see some sites, do something fun, eat good food,
and have an honest talk about the jealousy. Reassure him
you're not going to disappear or replace him, but you
have separate lives and that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
It means you'll always have new stories to share.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Opie says, you know, it's a relief to hear you
say that, because I've had the same jealousy over girlfriends
and I'm completely straight probably lol, and so it's not
outlandish that he just feels replaced in a platonic way.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
And there is an update two days after the original post.

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
I think I think he likes you, dude, I think
so too.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
No one throws around the term platonically cheating if you're
not like so obsessed with that person that you're like,
I wanted to go me, I won't go on trip
with you?

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
Me right, maybe just nineteen.

Speaker 5 (01:04:22):
You're just so young. You're just so young and stupid,
both of you. I mean, maybe not up, but it's
just like, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
Just such a no.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
It's a little silly to.

Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
Be jealous of, Like, you know, your friends hanging out
with other friends.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
That's a stupid thing to do when you're young.

Speaker 5 (01:04:41):
Yeah, man, if he's having these feelings, like if he's
having these strong feelings about wanting to go somewhere special
with you, it's very possible that it's because.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
Of more feelings.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
Indeed, let's let's get to the bottom of this update.
Two days after the original post, things are kind of resolved,
but also up in the air emotionally. In short, Matt
came over and it started off pretty heated because I
was quite mad. I said, he's completely overreacted and it
was immature of him to ignore me for nearly a week.
He didn't say much, and he had his head in
his hands for a while, which made me go quiet.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
He kept saying, I know, I know, I'm sorry. I
feel stupid. So I just came out with.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
It and asked if there were something he needed to
tell me, because I want to know. At this point,
I was crying. I was a little riled up, to
say the least. So he hugged me and said he
loved me, and he was irrational and jealous. Can't lie.
I thought we were going to kiss, but we didn't.
I don't know what's going on here, but you guys
weren't crazy. We talked more about why the trip bothered
him so much, and he kind of echoed what you
guys theorized. He felt left behind and said out of

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all of his friends, I'm the one he values the most,
and he'd loved to do something like his first friend
holiday with me. Neither of us are that well off
and have only been on a handful of trips with
family when younger.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Clearly they like each other.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Go you want to kiss him, Maybe talk about that,
Maybe talk about that then maybe kiss afterwards. Yeah, maybe
I can't lie. I was very nervous, very emotional. I
didn't want to push it by asking explicitly if he
had a crush on me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
But I do acknowledge that the way we act with
each other.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
Like wanting to kiss, is a little more than holy platonic.
Maybe it's just one of those loves where you'll always
have that attachment, but I need not materialize into a
romantic relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
I'm still confused anyway. I think he was a bit
immature at best, you could argue slightly possessive at worst.
He said that when he said platonic cheater, it was ironic,
which explains the theoretical wording or theatrical wording, but the
jealousy was obviously real. We laughed about it a bit,
and we enjoyed some some leafy greens. I think we're okay.

(01:06:45):
I mean, i'd love to hear your takes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
I don't know. Someone will say I'm in denial. Haha,
you are, y'all needed you guys gotta talk about that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
Yeah, it started off annoying, but now I think it's
kind of cute. I think you both like each other.
It's kind of cute. It's silly that he said that
that was ironic, saying like a platonic cheater, but then
hung up after you laughed.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
At that, like, yeah that wasn't ironic, dude.

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
You were mad, yeah, upset, Yeah, you.

Speaker 5 (01:07:12):
Just wanted to I think he just wanted to be like, Oh,
it feels like you're cheating on me, but like but
like we're just friends though, like I.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
Promise, So yeah, I was in it platonically, but it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Yeah, if we were dating, I would think this was cheating.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
Yeah, and you're nineteen, so you're like, I don't know
how to crush on her.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
What am I gonna do?

Speaker 5 (01:07:29):
Just hold hands already, Just go on long walks on
the beach already, Come on, hold hands

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