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00:15 r/charlottedobreyoutube -  [5] I found out my ex-boyfriend of 3 years was cheating on me with his own sister.
14:52 r/relationship_advice - Am I (35m) in the wrong because I said no to giving away my now ex partner (36f) at a future wedding with her new fiancé (30f)
33:22 r/okstorytime - My ex boyfriend left me, just to end up with his sisters pregnant best friend… less than a week later.
47:34 r/okstorytime - Would I (28 f) be tah if I exposed my ex's (27m) relationship pre our break up with his step sister (A) he's now dating

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
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our happily Ever after my.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Ex boyfriend cheated with his sister.

Speaker 4 (00:19):
What and uh clearly the Figger warning here for intimate
familial relations and general family dysfunction. So I was with
this bloke for three years, and for months I had
this gut feeling he was cheating. He'd stay up late
at night on his phone, nothing weird in itself, but
he would literally turn his whole body so I couldn't

(00:41):
see his screen, like lying there facing me but holding
his phone away proper shady. I asked him about it,
but he'd always get super defensive. By the way, This
comes from user extension blue Jay ninety three on the
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Speaker 1 (01:00):
I'm Dakota, I'm Sophia, I'm Keon, and we're here to
give good advice goofully. But we don't have all the answers.
We only know what we'd do, So tell us what
you would do in the comments.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
I've never been through this, and I'm scared.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
I don't have any siblings.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Oh I don't have any Sturblay.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Can't possibly go through this, Op says, so yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
One night I thought forget it and went through his
phone while he was in the shower. This man was
on every dating app going sliding into random girls DMS. Honestly,
it was pathetic. Half the girls left him on red
and the rest gave him one word replies. He looked thirsty.
I was honestly embarrassed. I'd even touched him.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Let alone.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Wasted three years, and I benned him off the next day.
Fast forward six months, I'm minding my business. A mate
sent me a random video she found in some group
chat and said, OMG, look at this grim crap. I
click it and see some random couple.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Going at it. I'm about to scroll past, but then
I notice the tattoo.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Wait, I'm sorry, your friends just sending you.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Corn, but it's like where they even have how? Why?
Why is that floating around?

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Why is that floating around?

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Your friends don't send you any Thank.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Goodness knows, Sophia just admitted her and all her friends
are super boring.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
You're my friend.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
You We're all boring. Dunk dunked on because.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
We know what the rice purity test was.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Dakota would pass that with fly colors, you would probably
get a hun knew it was. Of course, I know
what it was because I'm Asian.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
What what someone's crossing off a very unfortunate box on
the rice purity test?

Speaker 1 (02:44):
On this toy? So true, my blood ran cold. I
knew that tattoo. I zoom in and then I see
the girl's face.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
It's his sister.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
Oh man, are you really going to say it? This?
This is that's the story where we actually say it.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Eh.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
He probably kissed his sister.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
That's I said it like that, I know.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
I swear to god, I almost threw my phone. This
man was with his own sister. I did a bit
of digging because I thought, surely I'm losing my mind.
But nope, apparently their whole circle already knew what like
this was some open secret.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Ha ha. I'm sorry. The second I find out about that,
Hello police, ring ring Ring, Hello police? Is it illegal
and presumably the UK.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
I can look it up.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Don't kiss your sister, George Lucas.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Meanwhile, I was playing Happy Families, planning our future, kissing
this man who.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Was literally with his sister. I felt physically ill.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Like I used to think being cheated al was humiliating,
but this is trauma on another level.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
Is it like a specific tattoo that nobody else has ca.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Wh It's just that she even recognized his sister's face.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Somebody could have done the nick cage face off.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Well.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
She also went and checked with his friends and family,
and it's an open secret.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Man, also pretty concerning. I want to know, like what
the age difference is between these siblings, because.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
I don't know, because there's life. They're both to fia a.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Lot of like genetic intimate.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Old enough unviable to make a child. More.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
My point is that a lot of those types of
relationships are not not necessarily not consensual, but they're not
always consdual.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
So yes, it looks like our residents from the UK. Yeah,
did say it's illegal, but cousins can.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
All right, folks, let's get through this. I feel like
I need bleach for my soul. Yeah me, too.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Now, can someone help me on what I should do
about this blow? Shall I tell his mom because I'm
still in contact with her, or.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Do you think I should just leave it?

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Don't just leave it.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
You probably tell his mom.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Pile his mom if you have, If you're still in
contact with his mom, tell his mom, I hope, and
then if she knows, then go to the police.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
If she knows and she's like, yeah, I love that
for them.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
I love how close my children are.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
We're a tight knit family.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Here to jail all of you.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Ah. So I'm already really pissed off. I got cheated
on and let him go easily off the hook. Does
anyone have any recommendations on how I can ruin his life? Sorry,
I'm a little evil. My recommendation is that vengeance is
bad for your brain.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
His life is already ruined.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
His life is already bad.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Just yeah, tell the relevant parties that.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Hey, yeah, hey found this information out. You can even
do it anonymously. Text his mom from a different number.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Comments comment number one.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Do not get involved in this in a way that
will come back to you or involve your name. If
you cannot be anonymous, then leave it alone. If it's
an open secret, then it will or has already gotten
back to other family members. Interfamilial relations are explosive and
extremely taboo. People react with such disgust, and rightly so.

(06:04):
It is entirely possible he will face real pushback and
will look to blame someone. Don't take that chance, especially
if his family already knows and has chosen denial. If
you can find a way to be anonymous, then go
for it. Just be sure you aren't breaking a law.
If not, the best revenge is just living well. Honestly,
if this is happening to me, I'm like, I tell

(06:25):
the mom and then I never speak to any of
these people ever again, lose all of their information, all.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Of their information and then I go to the front
and say, where did you get this? Why did you
send it?

Speaker 5 (06:38):
By the way, why do the why does the circle know?
These friends know?

Speaker 1 (06:41):
And they're like, yeah, that's cool, let's just keep going coming.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Number two, Please do not send the video to anyone,
as this is classed as revenge coorn and has been
illegal in the UK for years. Update to address a
few things. The video was on an Instagram reel on
a bait account. It was up for a while and
my friend was sent it by another friend on a
group chat, and then it got sent to me. I

(07:07):
got asked why my friend wasn't freaked out, and yet
she was freaked out, which is why she sent it
to me. I've messaged the account and reached out, but
I've still not received a reply. The video got taken
down the day before yesterday. His sister is older by
about three years. I've met her and the rest of
his immediate family. I've met a few aunts, uncles, and
cousins at a wedding as well. He's extremely close to

(07:28):
his mom, typical mummies boy.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
His dad has always been a bit of a weirdo.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
I can't imagine this family's normal.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
This can't be real.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
I can't imagine this family is normal.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
I'm not completely sure if his parents knew about it before,
but they definitely do now. The day after seeing the video,
I looked up his Instagram and saw it was taken down.
On the bit account post his at was being posted
all over and people were calling him a sister effer
and others were saying to remove the video. He ended
up either deactivating or deleting his whole account, and I

(08:01):
checked his TikTok, and that too was also taken down.
I know for a fact that he has seen this,
but after reading some of the comments you guys have left,
I'm not reaching out to this bloke or his creepy family.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah, everyone knows. You don't need to. Also, I'm wondering
why Opie said she was still in contact with the mom.
Maybe like she thought the mom was nice, but now
it's like, oh, on further reflection, mom is.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
A creep Sometimes when you realize family's down with this
kind of.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
This is definitely down with the sickness. Yep.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, you don't have to do anything, Opee. Everyone knows.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
I've been getting messages from our old mutuals and rumors
are spreading really quickly. I thought i'd speak to my
mom and a younger brother about it before they hear
from someone else. My brother said he's not surprised and
that he always was way too close to his sister.
And what my brother means by close is they were
always holding hands like a couple when they walked and
talked about weird topics that you wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Speak to your siblings about.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
For example, I remember this one time when we were
shopping for his sister's engagement party and her partner did
not come with us. When we were walking, he would
be in the middle holding both of our hands, and
I'm such an idiot I didn't speak up. I mean,
holding your sister's hand is not an identicator that you would.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Do something like that.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
That's not Yeah, no, be honest, folks, Also like you,
what would you do? He's holding his sister's hand, and
you're like, hey, cut that out.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, now you're the weirdest.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Oh you're weirdo, cause now it's like, that's my sister, bro,
why are you being weird?

Speaker 4 (09:31):
There were many times when his sister or mom would
do something weird, like making me sit in the back
of the car while they sat in the front seat,
or talking about his ex and how she was so
different from me. I'm not really a confrontational person, so
I would just let it go. And my ex would
never stick up for me. That's why I didn't really
fight him or argue much. When I found out.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
He was cheating on me, I just left. One thing I.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
Did find really weird about him is that when his
mom would stay over at ours, she would sleep in
the same room as us. Please don't judge me. I
do not know what was going through my head. For context,
we lived in a one bedroom flat and his mom
said she had never slept alone before and she's afraid
of being alone. So I told her she could sleep

(10:13):
next to me, but she refused, saying that I'm not family.
So she felt really uncomfortable sleeping next to me and
she would rather sleep with my ex her son. Now,
this is not a common thing in my family, so
I don't see this as normal. Please tell me what
you think. We ended up getting an old air mattress
out and letting her sleep in our room, right next.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
To us on my ex's side.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Okay, you've never slept alone in your life, that's weird.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
I'm not letting that go.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
I'm saying, excuse me, time for us to get out
of our comfort zone.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
You're a big girl, you can sleep alone. However, the
only thing I will say I think OPE is latching
on to things that like now that we know the truth,
are obviously indicators. But the holding hands with sister quit
me normal. The sleeping in the same bed with the
mom because they didn't have other arrangements could be normal. Obviously,

(11:04):
knowing what we know they're not, but I feel like,
OHP's kind of being hard on herself, being like, I
don't know, I didn't see it like they did all
these things, and I feel like though all of those
things could have been normal if they weren't all freaks.
So don't beat yourself up, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Oh my brother was not shocked, but my mom was
shouting at me for telling other people about it. She
said that I'm poking my nose in other people's business
and I should stay out of it.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Kind of your business. Honestly.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
She was a little mean about it, but I totally
get where she's coming from. She asked me if I
still love him.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
I said no. She said, then you shouldn't care about
what he does. She's got a point, so fair enough.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, but also this is insane.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah no, but I agree, cut your losses, move on
with your life. An ex who.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Did something like this, would you not be like you
will not believe what I just found out about my ex?

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Of course I would, of course she would.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
She also said not to reach out to anyone or
tell anyone that I dated him, because it would also.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Ruin my reputation.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
But that's already kind of late because our pictures were
still up on his Instagram highlights and everyone knew that
we dated each other.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Rough it just.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
Kind of ruined my Wednesday vibe.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Ah, why was this the first story? Man?

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:18):
I mean, don't advertise that you dated this guy. You
could talk about it with the people that know that
you dated them. But I honestly, if this happened to me,
I'd be telling everyone I knew forever.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
I don't know. I would be like, I don't want
to talk about you anymore. I don't want to talk
about that guy exactly.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
So conversation starter.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Oh at the Great Icebreakers, Soovia instant about getting myself checked.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
I feel fine.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Been almost seven months since I left, and I'm finding
it difficult to book an appointment.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
With my GP.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
They're always fully booked, but I will at some point
when I'm free. I work almost every day, so it's
a little difficult at the moment. I know this isn't
the update you guys wanted. You all wanted me to
send the video to his mom and have a revenge plan.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I didn't want no one.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
No, I don't want that no one. People watched that.
People wanted you to send the video of her children
going at it.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
You're probably crime doing that.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
Whole game of thrown one crime.

Speaker 6 (13:17):
Don't who I'm sorry who said send the video of
this mother's children going at it to them all.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Y'all move different, y'all are free. Okay, let's also just
keep going. We're gonna finish this story.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
I want all of your Internet privileges revoked permanently, everyone
involved in this.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
If I were a good friend, like I'm gonna warn you,
this is gonna scar.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
You don't want to watch it.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
It's one of those videos online that you never want
to see. You can't wash your eyeballs ever again. Yeah,
Da Coda knows those videos.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Anyway, there's a little lift.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
I was all for that when I was angry, but
after reassessing the situation, I don't think it's a clever move.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Like I said, I live in the UK.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
And it would be seen as revenge corn and I
could get into a lot of trouble with the police. Yes,
I could report it to the police, but like I said,
my mom had a huge go at me and said
it's not my place and not my business. I don't
think she would be happy if she found this post. Also,
if you're feeling bad for my ex, please don't.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
He doesn't deserve it.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Why would I feel bad?

Speaker 5 (14:22):
Who would feel bad for him?

Speaker 1 (14:23):
One he cheated, but two with his sister.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
He kissed his sister.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
If the parents were in any way you know, knowledgeable
of this, then they should definitely be investigated. But anyway,
that's it. That's the end of that story.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
I need saltine, no business. I have this and I
still don't feel anything.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Was it like, were they step siblings? Hopefully?

Speaker 6 (14:49):
No?

Speaker 5 (14:49):
No?

Speaker 3 (14:50):
All right, let's do this. My ex asked me to
give her away at her upcoming wedding.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
I'm the flowery oh Laurie.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Basically me thirty five male and my ex thirty six females.
Split up three years ago when we had been together
seven years, when she came out to me as a saffok.
At first, we were very rocky when we separated, but
as we shared custody of a dog together, we had
to stay civil.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Had to.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Over time, we became not just friends again, but in
my opinion, best friends again.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Lovely little co parenting fur baby.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
By the way, this comes from deleted and if you
want to submit your own stories, go to the r
slash Okay storytime separate it. I'm Sophia, I'm Riley, and
I'm ke On, and we're here to give good advice goofly,
but we only know what we'd do, So let us
know what you do in the comments and OPI says,
when our dog passed away in the summer, we got
very close. Again, It's important to point out that we

(15:49):
never married, and we had both been married before, so
we said we were in no rush. She said she
was adamantly opposed to remarriage, whereas I said I was
not bothered by it, but would now rule it out. Well,
I think she meant remarriage to a man, really, presumably
to a man.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
I thought she just wouldn't get married in general, because
divorce is just so hard. She wouldn't want to go
through that. Again.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Well, she's about to get married.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
That's the plot of this, right, I know that. But
I guess my question is, how did you get that
conclusion that she would not remarry to a man. That's
what I just think, Like, because he's like, I'm not
gonna get married ever again, it's like they wouldn't get
married either.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Because she's getting married and she that she was Gothic.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
I know that, but if someone makes oh got it,
oh sorry, I'm like our Facebook viewers, I'm not taking
your droop seriously. She's like, you know what, I'm gonna
try the woman thing now.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
She met a new woman, thirty female last year after
two years of what she called her snoop face of
newly coming out. I have met her and she seems okay.
We get on, but we're not close, just civil. They
moved on quickly, though, moving in together after only seven months.
They are coming up to only you're together this month.
I have not found anyone yet. I've had flings and

(17:04):
a few one night stands, but I'm quite shy and
have anxiety issues despite being told I'm a good looking guy.
The other day, she asked me if we could have
a coffee, which I agreed to. She proceeded to show
me a diamond ring and said her girlfriend now fiance
proposed to her, and she said yes.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
WHOA.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
This took me by surprise, considering how opposed she was
while we were together again, she was sappix, so I
think she had other oppositions to your relationship.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Wait, is this put a joke now or not here.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
I'll explained to you. She was in a relationship with
a man, yes, she realizes I'm not into men, yes,
and then gets into a relationship with a woman yes,
and then marries that woman and no, p's like, yes,
why didn't she want to marry me because she didn't
want to be in a relationship with a man at all?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Okay, but no, no budes much. Can I ask a question?

Speaker 5 (18:00):
Yes, question answer.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
She made a statement, I don't want to be married again.
Does that apply to both teams?

Speaker 3 (18:07):
I think that she just said, Well.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
She just said that because she was with the man
and realized, oh, I don't want to dude man. Yes,
I don't like you've got there. I don't like beards.
I'm here, I'm here now, he's there, I'm here here.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
While I was taking it in, she said that as
her dad and her are estranged, he is religious in
him and her family disowned her when she came out.
She thinks I am the best man she knows, and
asked if I would give her away when they were married.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Because she used to call you daddy.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Oh, without thinking, I said, you must be kidding, No way.
I do not remember the exact words after that, but
it was a very awkward situation. We paid up and
left without hardly talking. She looked like she was crushed though,
and could not get her words out. That's kind of sad,
Like I, on the one hand, I understand why. I
hope he doesn't want to do this, but like she

(18:57):
clearly sees the relationship very differently that he does, because
it seems like he's still kind of seeing the relationship
as like this very important thing to him, which makes sense.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
She went on a different journey.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yeah, She's like, Oh, I realized I was never really
in love with you, mm hmm, and oh I didn't
have that. After getting home, I received a very angry
phone call from her fiance, telling me what a piece
o crap I am for crushing her dreams and putting
a dampner on her big day. She said along the
lines of don't think you're coming to the wedding, and
I equally responded along the lines of, don't worry, love,

(19:31):
I wouldn't go anyway. Oh dang, y'all getting nasty, getting
nasty nasty. A few mutual friends and family of mine
that she still sees have wrung me or messaged me
saying they think I'm out of line and that they're
going to show their support. I've been ignoring them like
it is their business. Anyway. I personally feel crushed all

(19:52):
over again, like when she came out to me. I
feel like I was not good enough for her to marry,
but good enough to help make her big days special.
I do not seem and her regaining our friendship like
we had. I think even if we patch it up,
we will always have this over us. Am I wrong
for doing it? Should I have bit the bullet and
given her away? I think what is annoying me a
lot is that I consider what she did a big no.

(20:14):
Inviting an ex to a wedding is something I would
not do, and consider it a bit insensitive on her part.
Why does she, her fiance and others think it's okay?
And why does she get a pass on the basis
that she's a woman and marrying a girl. Uncles and
aunts of mine who divorce stayed cool with her exes
and later remarried never dreamed of asking exes to be
a part of and go to their future weddings. Why

(20:35):
should my situation be any different?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Okay, I see where he's coming from.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
I think he is not over her. He hasn't been
in a serious relationship for three years. When she came
to him, instead of being polite and being like, hey,
you know, I'm not super comfortable doing that, he went, no, way,
that's great. Like he had this huge reaction, which was rude,
and now he's going on this thing like why is
it indifferent? Why is it different because she's marrying a girl.

(21:02):
It's different because you guys literally said you were best friends.
Her fiance is fine with it, and also she said
she wasn't attracted to men.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
I think, Op, he's hanging out that note. Yeah, exactly,
he's still into her, still hanging out to the notion
like she didn't marry me. How is that possible?

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (21:20):
Yeah, why couldn't she marry me?

Speaker 3 (21:22):
It's five hundred days of summer.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
He's definitely not over her. And from her point of view,
I'm just thinking in the movie or the TV show,
how about your mother? Yeah? How I think like Head
dated Robin but everyone was still friends or like New Girl.
You know, you can still date someone and be friends
and be close, but you can definitely season over by
the way he's like, you would never invite an extra wedding.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah, you're not still seized.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, yeah, you're not an ex to op anymore. You're
a best male friend. Yeah. She doesn't have a lot
of those in her life.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
She even says she's like, I don't have a lot
of you know, good male figures.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Which confuses me on why he can continued the relationship
of friendship with me.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Exactly if you saw this as so like taboo, Yeah
that's the thing. I think that you are absolutely justified
and being like I'm not comfortable, yeah doing that, but
it could have done it more respectfully. And even if
your first thing was like no way, then you take
a minute and you go, I'm so sorry I reacted
that way. You asked me this really special thing, and
I am not comfortable, but I shouldn't have reacted like that.

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Comment one strip away all the other stuff, and it
comes down to this. The woman who didn't want to
marry you and who broke your heart wants you to
come to her wedding and literally give her away to
someone else. You're allowed to say no comment to. I
would say any chance of reconciliation flew away as soon
as your ex decided to let her fiance and your
family members get involved and pester you about it. I

(22:46):
would also agree with that. I don't blame you for
saying no. Definitely could have been worded better, but she
should have talked to you more about it before just
telling everyone you're an awful person and making them mad
at you, Opie says. A cousin of mine even tried
to guilt me saying bye my actions, I was subconsciously
showing my internalized homophobia. I mean, WTF right? Also, that's

(23:08):
not what internalized homophobia is? Internalized homophobia? That would be
like homophobia. Oh, I don't know's I feel like that
doesn't make sense? Reply? I hate this logic. Ask them
to take their identity out of it completely. Ask them
would you be comfortable if your ex who broke your
heart asked you to give them away at their wedding
to someone new?

Speaker 2 (23:28):
No?

Speaker 3 (23:28):
So why should I treat her any differently because of
her identity?

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Is their best friends?

Speaker 3 (23:33):
You told us they were best friends. Comb and three.
From reading the whole thread, it's obvious that she sees
you Ope as a very dear and platonic friend. In
her mind. It's honoring the connection you have as friends.
Asking you to give her away. She does, however, obviously
not get at all how much the initial rejection of
the breakup and its aftermath have hurt you and still do.

(23:55):
I don't think he realizes this either. She's got up
in her own happiness and didn't think to consider perspective.
Nobody's trying to be an ale, but you both hurt
each other bad. Honestly, I'd say that since you have
not properly healed, you should consider if it's really healthy
to stay friends, to stay close friends, or if you'd
heal better on your own. Obviously you feel strung long.

(24:17):
I honestly think it's great when people start living for
you to themselves, but there is often a partner left
behind feeling tricked, and there is an update. I don't
really agree with all those comments. I agree with some
of them and parts of some of them, except for
that last comment. I think they were all leaving out
that he said that they were best friends. Yeah, and
I think that he is not realizing that he is

(24:38):
not over this relationship.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Definitely not man, But you're gonna apologize for saying the
word you said and not go to the wedding and
be on okay terms with Opie or your ex right, yeah, right, Opie.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
I also wonder because he was saying that you would
never invite an X to a wedding, So is he's
not even going to go to their wedding? He's like,
don't now he's not. But before his friend asked oh
him to walk her down the aisle, was he not
even planning to go to the wedding. I don't think
he was, which is crazy because she was absolutely going
to invite him even if she wasn't asking him to
walk her down the aisle. Like, imagine your best friend

(25:15):
not going to your wedding.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah, if you're hanging out with someone one on one regularly,
you're going to their wedding. Yeah, that makes them crazy.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
The correlation doesn't make any sense at all.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah. Update, I have lots of great advice, but one
was to write a letter to convey my feelings. I
was in the process of doing so when I got
a text from her yesterday asking if she could come
to my house in the evening so we could chat
about what went down and clear the air. I agreed,
and she came over. The first thing she did was
apologize for her fiance's behavior and for people pestering me.

(25:46):
She admitted that she was so upset when she got
home that afternoon that her partner freaked out and how
to go at me without thinking the others found out
because she has a WhatsApp group that she set up
to talk about her proposal, and she mentioned in there
that she was going to ask me, so people had
been messaging her on there to ask how she got on, which, honestly,
I feel like kind of takes a lot of the

(26:07):
you know, blame off her because that was the only
thing that I was saying that she was the a
hole for uh And she didn't even do it on purpose.
She was just like he didn't accept. She assured me
she's going to ask people on there to leave me alone.
Now you let me go first, And I said, basically
that I was so taken aback because of her stance
on marriage when we were together and the fact I
wanted to marry her so much. When she asked me,

(26:29):
I guess all the feelings I had when she first
came out and we separated came flooding back. She said
she could see where I was coming from, and admitted
in hindsight, she didn't really stop and consider my feelings
because she's so caught up in her happy little world.
She then said that the reason why she wants me
to not only be there is that she loves me
so much, and even though she's not into me spicily

(26:50):
or romantically, she still considers me her soulmate in a way.
She said she feels I get her more than anyone
else in the world, including her fiance. This took me
by surprise to actually hear, and I broke down and
started crying, and so did she. I don't know if
that is the thing that OP needs to hear, but
I understand what she's saying. He's like, you're my best friend,
soul mat Yeah, I would consider my best friends like

(27:13):
I have a best friend, I would consider it is
my soulmate.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Soulmate.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah, BOMT doesn't have to be romantic.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
What Yeah, okay, never thought about that. To be honest,
kind of gave up on the concept of soulmates long ago.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
I don't believe in one soulmate. I think that soulmates
are just people that I think that you can have
multiple sumets and that yeah, that are meant to be
in your life, oh joy. And yeah, after we cleared
our heads, she told me I can still come to
the wedding if I wanted, and there's no pressure to
be involved as such. I said to her, I do

(27:46):
not think I can, as the love I have for
her is not strictly platonic on my party and there
it is still not.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
Ever he thought it was just a phase. Yeah, he
thought it was just a.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Phase, and to give her away in the way she
wants feels like a punt in the ball. I just
don't think I can.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Do.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
You seem to get angry at this thinking about it.
In hindsight, I think she was just being direct and
told me I need to accept we are over.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
I think that's just direct. I think that's her being like,
it's been three years, you need to get over me.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, But the late nuts hanging out with the fur
baby's why.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
I don't think that helped him. She stressed to me
that she is not into me in that way. I said,
I do not think I can, and that we may
be best to properly cut ties, at least for a time,
as it's eating me up. There is a little bit
left of the story, but I do think that is
the right move for op Oh?

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
I don't think that you can be friends with the
next who you're into.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Mm hmm. Yeah. There was There's this friend of mine
that was going through a breakup and I was like, Oh,
we should hang out and go on dates. And then
it kind of got a little and I was like,
you need to process your breakup. We can't be friends.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Oh he's here, he's been here for three months hoping
that she'll come back, and she can, so you have
to leave that. I guarantee that's why he's not had
a sixful relationship or like a long term relationship in
three years.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
What's soul mate, dude? That's wild. I understand the differ
between twin flame and soulmate now, but if I just
got heard that, I'd be like screaming on the inside.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
That I assume that's how he feels.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Souse.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
She's seeing us as like a platonic soulmate, and he's
being like, you're my you're my romanticsmate, I'm in love
with you.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, I understand the feeling. I want to date with
one chick. Yeah, now she's with another woman now. And
then I went through the mindset of like, yeah, what
is my sexuality if I'm attracted to lesbian? And I
was like, what does this mean? I was just like,
I'm attracted a woman.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
What is this?

Speaker 2 (29:36):
I'm attracted to a woman? Attracted a woman? What am
I straight?

Speaker 5 (29:39):
Three? Okay, but guess what She's not attracted to just
attracted to you? Does that make her simple?

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Math?

Speaker 3 (29:48):
She said, if that is what I want, she understands,
and she started to really cry.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
We hugged and parted there. Before she left, she told
me she could tell I'm drinking again and said, if
all else fails and this is it, but please try
and at least get sober again. To say my head
is a mess is an understatement. Luckily, I've not heard
from her since she left, and I have deactivated all
my social media so I cannot see what she's up to.
Smart comment Wan, this is literally the weirdest, most unhealthy

(30:16):
relationship dynamic post separation that I've ever heard of. You
cannot stand contact with her. This whole thing is super unhealthy.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Also hit the gym reply to be frank, it.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Sounds like they both aren't over each other. She literally
told them she sees him in a way she doesn't
even see her fiance because this is her best friend.
Separation in this instance might serve them both for the better.
She needs to focus on her fiance and he needs
to find someone else. Comment two says, not the a
whole reality didn't meet her ideas, and she blames you
for not being what she embodied you to be. She

(30:47):
should have managed her expectations out of respect. She didn't
even think you could say no worse, she thought you'd welcome.
Mitt speaks volumes. Oh Pi says good point. I think
she thought she knew me so well that she assumed
it would be an instant. Yes. I think because she
put me on the spot, I had to make a
decision there and then where If she did it over
the phone or text an email, I have thought about
it differently, in the outcome may have been different. Common three.

(31:10):
Has she been paying attention to your emotional state in
the slightest Opie says when we first split up, she
was amazing. I was drinking loads and she was so
helpful and trying to get me out of that and
helped me into therapy. She's also trying to help me
with my self esteem, even vetting some of my dating choices.
In the last three years since the argument, however, we

(31:30):
haven't spoken really much at all, so not lately, I
don't feel and that's the end of that story. Again,
I feel like they're letting Opee way too off the hook.
They're like, oh, she did this, Why is she still
trying to be friends with you? It's like they both
did that. Yeah, and she thought he was over her
and now is finding out that, Oh no, he's really

(31:51):
not over me. And I thought we had this friendship
and yeah, maybe she was being a little oblivious, but
I feel like they're both you know, a blame for
all this relationship was.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
I think like they should have definitely communicated where they were.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Taking some time off, and because it seems like they
broke up and then he was she was just helping
him with his you know, drinking problem.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
This separation seems best for both of them. Angry because
if you're about to get married to someone and you
consider your ex even though you're not attracted to them anymore,
you're closer to them than you are your fiance, that
honestly would not sit right with me.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
I will say she's known a p four five years,
probably three years at least, well at least three years
because they broke up three years ago, but probably more
because they were talking about marriage. So let's say like
five years at the most. She considers him her best friend.
She's known her fiance for a year. Their marriage was
pretty quick or their engagement was this just happened. Not

(32:50):
saying that it should be, but it does make sense.
Why the timelines, why she sees this person, you know,
p as her platonics told me, and like best friend,
and she's close to him, especially again, she doesn't have
really great male figures in her life.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Just wouldn't sit round with me.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yeah, says totally equal blame on this.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
Yeah, I was gonna say the same thing, like they're
both that fault. It's it's one of those situations where
you think you can be best friends or friends with
your eggs. Yeah, and one moves on and one is
always hung up.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Anyways, we got another story coming up for you guys.
All right, my boyfriend dumped me for his sister's pregnant
best friend.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Did he make her pregnant?

Speaker 2 (33:27):
My ex friend set me up with a guy, let's
call him Chris. She considered him to be like a brother.
Back in twenty twenty. I twenty two at the time,
didn't really date guys didn't really seem attracted to me.
I'm a bigger woman with hEDS pcos pots among other issues.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
What does that mean, well, polycystic ovarian syndrome. I know
one of the symptoms is like if you stand up
fall like you get the blackout thing really easily. Oh no,
it's like a lot of iron deficiencies. Often a company.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Okay. The guys who seem interested only seemed to be
interested in getting me in the bedroom, so I rarely
got to the relationship basis. By the way, this comes
from a witchy woman nineteen ninety eight. And if you
would have spit your own stories, go to the r
slash okay story t I'm stubborned where this story came from?
What this is one of our own? My name's Riley,
I'm Sophia, I'm Keon, and we're here to give good

(34:22):
advice s gooefully. But we don't have all the answers.
We only know what we do know. So let us
know what you would do in the comments below. So
Opie says Chris twenty three at the time, had a
child from a previous marriage. My ex friend thought he
was looking for someone to settle down with after the
stuff he went through with his ex. She was violent.

(34:43):
I was iffy due to the last few guys. I
tried dating with kids who led me on, just to
ghost me after a few weeks, but I finally cave
and had her tell him to message me. We talked
and hung out for a few weeks. Two a month,
he said he wasn't sure if he wanted a relationship.
What was hope he would be soon. I told him
there was no rush because I'd rather him be sure

(35:05):
than the lead me on. Yeah, that's that's smart. About
a week after he told me that, he asked me
to be his girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Okay, so he took a week. He was like, I'm
pretty sure.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
He liked that. He was schmitten by the idea.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Hey, it's Sam.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
We're gonna get back to the stories.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
But here's three minutes bads from our sponsors.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
I asked him if he was sure, since it wasn't
long after he said he wasn't sure he'd be ready
for a relationship. He told me he was one hundred
and ten percent sure he was ready.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
So I said, yes, See, that would make me less suer,
I'd be like, oh, that's not even possible. He can't
be one hundred and ten percent short, ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Maybe they're bad at math that they don't know what
one hundred ten percent.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Well, maybe he's bad at relationships too, hot.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Take you're bad at math. You're bad at relationships by Sophia.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Dang it, I'm bad at that's su trure. I'm good
at math, just not mental math. So if i'd keep
the relationship in my head, it's bad.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
About a week into us dating, he decided he want
me to meet his family, which I figured was going
to happen quickly since they all lived across the street
from my friend and I was going over there quite often.
All of this family seemed to love me, except or
his sister Lola.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Uh oh.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
That weekend I met his family, his sister showed up
with her baby daddy and her pregnant best friend. This
was Chris's first time meeting Lola's best friend, Grace.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Hmmm, love at first sight hopefully not?

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Hopefully not. As I was talking to Lola before they left,
I noticed, for some reason, when Grace said bye, she
hugged into Chris for an awkwardly long time. I mean
Chris sort of looked uncomfortable with how long it was,
so I wasn't concerned, especially since Chris hadn't given me
any reason to not trust him. A couple of days later,

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my ex friend told me Grace thought I hated her
because of the hug, so I went and found her
social media messaged her to let her know I didn't
hate her, as I had no reason not to trust
Chris for some reason. Chris at this point had gone
radio silent on me.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
What this is? How long into the girlfriendness is this?

Speaker 2 (37:19):
I want to say, like a couple of weeks, not yeah,
like a week fresh, it's super fresh. He went from
texting and video chatting every often to leaving me on
red or giving me one or two word responses other
than him telling me he was going through something mentally
and thought he needed some space. I thought it was

(37:39):
a bit weird, but said I understood and left him
to be for about a week. After week, he just
continued to leave me on red.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah, these are the signs. These are the breakup signs.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
His family would ask me we were still together. I
would just say at this point, I don't know, go
ask him yourself doesn't know how to respond to me.
About a month after he asked me to be his girlfriend,
two months since we started talking, he came over to
my ex friend's house in a T shirt. I gifted
him with his kid I haven't met before this.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
You hadn't met his kid before y'all started dating. I
take that back, because I feel like oftentimes when you
have kids, you don't want to introduce them until you're serious. Yeah,
that does make.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Sense, mind you. He was still leaving me on read
other than a couple of one word responses. Three to
four days after, I got a message from Grace asking
for Chris and I were still together. I told her
to ask him because he wasn't responding to me. She
responded with, you should ask him again. So, of course,
being that it was a weird message to see from

(38:44):
another female, I asked Chris lo and behold. He did
not respond. A couple of days later, I was sick
of it and message Chris saying we need to talk
because are we even together? He responded with I'm sorry,
but I forced myself to be in a relationship with
you when I wasn't ready for one. Again, I'm so sorry.
I just responded to him with the thumbs up emotion.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
That's ridiculous. What do you mean you forced yourself to
be in a relationship that you weren't ready for?

Speaker 5 (39:12):
Remember one hundred ten percent?

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Yeah, yeah, I knew that was a lie because one
hundred percent is impossible.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Probably was just ten percent to be ready.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Ridiculous, you freaking little liar.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Or he was eleven percent ready and just added a
zero own.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Assaid yes, sir, I didn't I didn't mean to.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
It was a point sorry, it was a point zero.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
It was eleven point zero percent. And it was like
he was like, I was really confused. Why you were
so excited about the eleven percent. Uh, that's ridiculous. Stop
doing that. People don't do that if you're not ready
to be in a relationship.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Yep, don't be in one and just say you're giving
it your one hundred percent, not one hundred and ten percent.
Two days later he blocked me on everything is hundred
ten percent problem. Two days after that, I saw Grace's
Facebook that she and Chris were in a relationship.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Well, it won't last long because he forced himself to
be in a relationship with you, And if a man says, ah,
I'm sorry I forced myself to be in a relationship
with you and then gets into another relationship right after that.
He is not handling anything healthily. He does not know
how to be alone.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
My first thought was they knew each other longer than
they mentioned, and she was pregnant with Chris's baby.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
That would be my first thought.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
But my ex friend and Chris's other sister confirmed that
she was pregnant with another man's baby who wanted nothing
to do with Grace for the baby. My ex friend
threw a fit to both of them because she knew
I had started to fall for Chris pretty hard when
he had me meet his family. I tend to fall
for someone pretty hard and sometimes a bit fast. The

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fit my ex through had Chris's sister, Lola, messaged me mad.
I was upset Chris was already with another woman, not
even a week after he told me he wasn't act
ready for a relationship. A couple of months went by
and I was finally mostly over him, only to find
out they were engaged.

Speaker 5 (41:08):
Wow, they're really rushing.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Yikes. I mean, just comfort yourself with the fact that
that relationship is going to be so messy.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
You don't want any part of that.

Speaker 5 (41:17):
That ship is on fire from the beginning, like.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
It's super zocks that you know he led you on
and treated you like this, but just know that he
was not a man that you want to be in
a relationship with and that you will find someone better.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
It only bugged me a tiny bit. It had been months,
but there was still a sting knowing they were working
out the way I was hoping. About eight to ten
months after that, my ex best friend told me go
look at Grace's page because it was interesting. Her and
Chris got married the day after what had been his
and mine one year anniversary. My ex friend told me

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she had overheard Grace wanting to do it on the day,
but there were no time slots at the courthouse to
do it.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
That's insane and feels like on purpose.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
That's weird.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Why the day that can't be coincidental.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
The only good thing that came out of this relationship
and the friendship with my ex friend is I got
a wonderful dog who absolutely loves Dakota and Riley. Reading
from my ex's younger sister, not Lola, who is best
friends with my ex friend. Dude is this Jamie, Jamie?

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Are you here?

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Someone d m Jamie that we're reading.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
We don't know that love our voices for sure?

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Sorry, I just I thought so.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
I just got excited.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Dang, that's crazy. I also learned not to trust most
guys named Chris.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
No, you can't do that.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Come on, Chris's prap no, very lovely Chris.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
I was like, I love Chris. Chris Pine's pretty cool
Chris Pine.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Chris Evans sevens.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Dude, Uh your friend, Chris, I.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Said, I know.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Christoph Waltz, Christian in college, was named Chris. There you go,
because if Chris crossed applesauce, what would he do to you?

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Sure? And I've always said that yop.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Caught on at number one. Chris showed you who he
is by leading you on, ignoring your messages, and then
turning around to be with someone almost immediately. That is
not a reflection of your worth. It's a reflection of
its immaturity and dishonesty. You gave him the benefit of
the doubt and patience when he asked for space, and
he chose to use that time to move on behind
your back instead of being upfront with you. Best thing

(43:31):
you can do now is gut ties with Chris and
anyone in his circle who stirs up drama or tries
to make you feel guilty for having emotions. Protect your
peace and distance yourself from people who do not respect
your feelings. It might still sting, especially knowing how quickly
he moved on, but healing will come from focusing on
yourself and refusing to let him or his family take

(43:54):
up any more of your energy. Spend time with people
who uplift you, and invest in things that remind you
of your value. This is also a chance to practice
setting stronger boundaries for future relationships. If someone starts pulling away,
going quiet, we're acting inconsistent, It's okay to step back
and protect yourself instead of waiting around for clarity. You
deserve a partner who is clear about what they want

(44:17):
and who values your trust from the very beginning. We
have an update John here.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
We're gonna get back to this juicy story, but a
quick three minute break of ads from our sponsors.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Yes, I agreed to all of that. Was this a
piece like first relationship? No one of her first Okay,
I think it's like I think go specified that like
she hadn't been in very like serious, like long lasting relationships.
So I feel like when you have that mindset or
you know or don't have that experience.

Speaker 5 (44:42):
And you're yearning for one and you're.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Yearning for one, you're kind of not attuned to red flags. Yes,
but you were getting the hang of it.

Speaker 5 (44:51):
It's also experience. Yeah, I think everyone when when we
all had our first relationships, you're like, this is perfect,
this is I can see my future with this person.
And then you look back on your oh boy, that was.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
Yeah, you get the hang of it. And next time,
if a guy says one week ago, I'm not ready
for relationship, and then says the next week I'm one
hundred and ten percent ready for relationship, you're gonna be like,
that doesn't sound right.

Speaker 5 (45:15):
It's a learning experience. I mean some people can get
it right off the bat, which is great for others,
it takes takes multiple partners.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
And we got an update. My boredom got the best
of me and I went to see if my ex's wife,
the woman he left me for it still blocked me
on Facebook, mainly because I saw she viewed my TikTok
profile and liked a few of my videos from five
years ago, right after he broke up with me, he
blocked me on Facebook. When I laugh reacted to her

(45:44):
and Chris making things official on Facebook, well, she unblocks me.
I immediately noticed her profile picture wasn't of her and my
ex or her and the kids like normal, But I
quickly realized who was in the picture with her. It
was my ex's brother.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Who wait, whose picture?

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Is this her ex's wife? So the profile picture isn't
with her ex and the wife, it's with her ex's
wife and brother. Ooh, Naturally I got more curious, so
I looked up my ex's second Facebook that I wasn't
blocked on to see what was on his page. His

(46:21):
profile picture was with the same brother's baby mama. They
just flip flopped. That's insane, Sophia Keon, What do we
think of the switcher room here?

Speaker 3 (46:32):
I mean, clearly they're messy. Yeah, clearly they're messy, and
you got out of their op. So just be thankful
for that.

Speaker 5 (46:39):
I told you that ship was on fire.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Yikes, Honeybee, keep it in the family.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
I guess. So they just did a little wife swap.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
So messy wrestling mama. Yeah, I'm shocked too.

Speaker 5 (46:50):
Crazy honestly, MOPI good, you dodged this bullet.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Finish it off. Chris, my ex has one biological kid
with the woman he married after breaking up with me,
and his brother has one biological kid with the woman
my ex is now with. So my ex and his
brother have become Uncle Daddy's apparently.

Speaker 5 (47:09):
Okay, hey, oh all right then, Ah, we're just gonna
have a lot of these today.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Huh Uncle Daddy. It made me even more glad I
wasn't with Chris anymore and totally made me laugh because
what kind of Jerry Springer bs is going on with
that family?

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (47:26):
I don't know, man, that's crazy, But you're out of
there and hope you find someone better.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
Yeah, and think we have one like mini story.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
My ex dumped me to be with his stepsister, not
the steps and this comes directly from the R slash
Showcay storytime severed it. Oh a little backstory, Me twenty
eight female and my now ex let's call him John,
Oh twenty seven male. Oh, we're going through what I
thought was a rough patch. He'd distance himself from me

(47:57):
and by extension are three now four year old daughter.
He began to hang out more around his close in age, stepsister,
staying out late, hanging out with friends, and definitely drinking.
The more days went by, I noticed how weirdly close
they had gotten more than normal.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yeah, they always hang out in the laundry room.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Eh. By the way, this comes from Wolf of Snow
ninety seven, And if you want to spit your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay, storytime subured it. I'm Sophia,
I'm Riley and Keon, and we're here to give good
advice goofily, but we don't have all the answers. We
only know what we'd do, So let us know what
you would do in the comments. But Op says he'd
almost never help around the house when I asked and

(48:37):
told him how I needed the.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Help, but Stepsister was kept getting stuck, so I had
to kept getting her unstuck.

Speaker 5 (48:43):
Eh, more like he got stuck in her a.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
Instead, he enlisted his stepmom and stepsisters out help, which
I thought was weird but a nice gesture until he
voiced how he thought it was embarrassing that he had
to ask for help for me. Looking back, I think
he was trying to create a reason to break it off.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
It's the stepmom too.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
I then started to become aware that it was getting
way more suspicious after I caught them close face to
face in the front of the house, not kissing, but
definitely close enough distance to be awkward to watch. He
noticed me and backed away before walking out the garage door.
I also backed up, wondering what I just witnessed at
the time. As forward a bit, the night before, I

(49:25):
received his breakup text, not even in person. He had
been so seemingly loving and we had spicy sleep, giving
me the illusion that maybe we'd be okay after all.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Oh no, the breakup. Spicy sleep, the breakup sleep.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
We'd been together seven almost eight years, oh and threw
one breakup and back together. But looking back, it was
the optimism of love blinding me. I tried to bargain
how we could work it out and get past it
for our little family and little one, but every suggestion
was shot down. I tried to find a job so

(50:02):
I could get stable and help, but him being my
only ride, he left me to miss my interview without
feeling supported. I packed me and my daughter up to
leave and talked to my family to see if they
would be able to get us out, and they did.
Not without some defensiveness that I was taking the daughter.
I was pretty much there for everything. For while he
only ever wanted the fun side of being a dad,

(50:23):
there's a little bit left to this story.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
He wanted the fun side of being a dad and
a brother.

Speaker 5 (50:28):
Yikes, today's theme is just not on it.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
I don't I don't like this. I don't like this.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
Today's theme has played like guitar rift from a Lynyrd Skynerd.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
I don't like this. I don't want it. I don't
want any of my stories. I don't want to read it.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
It's just spicy sleep, Sophia. No, it's my spicy sleep
in the confounds of family.

Speaker 5 (50:51):
All right, Fast and furious.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Fast forward to after we left. John, his best friend,
and oddly his stepsister followed us down the week after
for Father's Day week, despite claiming no money for months,
he traveled to all the places he wanted to take
our daughter to with her tagging along, including to his
other side of his family's houses. I now recognize this

(51:13):
as him introducing her to his family. How did he
introduce her? How exactly did he what did he introduce her?

Speaker 5 (51:21):
Ass, this is my step girlfriend?

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Fast forward a few months after the breakup after being
told he's not interested in dating. News flash, she's dating.

Speaker 5 (51:33):
Her girlfriend stepsister. That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
It's always the parentheses of not dating.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
You also going to meet the family. What do you
think they're thinking? Hey, honey, so what happened to your
other girlfriend?

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Yeah? Why is your stepsister here? I find out through
some of her posts tagging him and his dad's post.
That's so weird tagging him and what to anyone would
look like Cutesye, dating poses whether fishing or even in
the car with him leaning on her shoulder. The audacity
to not only lie then make it public is wild.
His Facebook relationship status reflects that yes, he's definitely dating.

(52:11):
There's no misconception, including his dad's photocaption about them's dealing
kisses so amy the ale if I expose them publicly
for what definitely seems like cheating, Nah.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
Well, I feel like just get away from that pecular explosion.
I feel like, just get away from the fire, walk away,
don't look.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Yeah, we don't need to be anywhere near that.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
If you can, this is my only advice I could
give to you. Save up as much money as you can,
fly to BALI, go to a bood and stay there
for a week or.

Speaker 5 (52:43):
Two, maybe three.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Fore you would be perfect. A month would be amazing.
Just find yourself in Bali because that's what people do.
That's what I did.

Speaker 5 (52:52):
And what do you find in Bali?

Speaker 2 (52:53):
You guys, and you found me and.

Speaker 5 (52:56):
BALI found in Bali.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
It led me to you guys.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
Oh that's nice.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Yeah, so I would definitely get out.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Hit a different talent. But that's the end of that
story and the end of this cursed episode.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
We got comments.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
We got comments here.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Yeah, that means this video was posted on August thirteenth
and the TLDR. The first story was Opie's dad decided
to leave the entire family business to his older brother
instead of giving op any ownership, even though op does
most of the physical work. Opie quit got offered a
way better job by their biggest client, which meant the

(53:36):
client would stop using Dad's company. When op told his
family about the new job, they called him selfish tried
to sabotage him by bound mouthing him to his new boss.
Now Dad's business is failing and they had to fire people,
and the family isn't speaking to Ope anymore.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
I remember the story all right.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
So Cynthia Guzman seventy one thirty take it from the
top here. I'll have to comment on this. You. Dad
and brother never acknowledged Ope's contribution to the business. They
thought of him as just a loathly grunt, so they
never would have treated Op the way that he earned.
He was the reason that their business was staying afloat,
and they never would have seen that their biggest client
always requested Op for the work that they needed done.

(54:17):
That should have been a sign for Daddy, Deer and
beloved brother to try and keep him, but instead they
just figured that he was replaceable and business would continue
as normal. L O L. I really do love watching
Karma work her incredible magic when greatly deserved. As far
as the will goes well, beloved Brother will be lucky
if there's anything left after the business folds. Opie has

(54:39):
a lifetype of wins coming towards him, and I'm quite
sure that he will be hearing from dear Daddy and
brother in the future when they are both hurting for money.
He won't be needing any inheritance in the future. The
company that hired him will continue to appreciate him, and
even if they don't. With the experience that OPI's building,
someone will that is the first come real.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Quick working for a company and being there from like
the round up. Yeah, you really understand like the inner
workings of it, and you kind of come up to
your own ideas of, oh, I could do this better,
do that better because that story the dad was very
traditional in everything. And I'll just come a long way.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
Remember like Opie wasn't getting paid, well he wasn't, and yeah,
there's just a bunch of other problems.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
If you can bring new technical innovations to a company,
he's gonna kill.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
It's gonna do already got like a way better job.

Speaker 5 (55:26):
So yeah, we have a second comment. This is from
Nana pe A two seven. The father and brother use
the son as a grunt worker. It's the grunt workers
that make you money. To me, it looks like God
had a plan for this young man and open a
window for him.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
That's right, God does. And you know if he wants
to close it, he'll just not make it happen, just
won't get anything.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
And one more comment from code Rain. If the client
can replace twelve people with the one son they're hiring directly,
that's a damn shame, and I don't love layoffs. But
from a family business point of view, it shows who's
been carrying the business. They clarify OPI has been generating
the revenue that keeps twelve people employed, but being excluded
from the decision making and value. If this were a

(56:11):
normal business relationship, it'd be enough to quit. If it's
a family, it's a demonstration of inequitable access to support,
emotional et cetera. Opie is carrying the family and the
company he really was.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Really it didn't do well when he left.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Being a part of a company is like you gotta
you have so many processes and so many things you
gotta stay on top of m hm. Kind of crazy door.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
And that's the end of that comment session and the
end of the story and the end of this episode.
But if you love us, make sure to subscribe.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
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