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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My ex husband ruined my life, so I took everything
from him in our divorce.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Girl, take it all.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
I want to know how much you took. So sorry.
This will be a long post, but there is some
background information that I believe is relevant. This happened in
twenty twenty. For some background information, at the time, I
was twenty six female when I met my now ex
husband at the time thirty one male via Facebook in
January twenty seventeen. He messaged me this long paragraph about

(00:30):
how he really wanted to meet me and we should
go out and I should give him a chance to
see where it goes me being vulnerable and going through
some heartbreaking life changes. Agreed, and we started talking. By
the way, this comes from you just particular three one
eighty four on the rok storytime subreddit. So long story short,

(00:50):
We went on a couple dates. He stayed over one
night and then never left, basically moved in with me.
At the time, he had nothing. He was living in
a small storage building behind his parents' home, so small.
All that fit in it was a recliner that he
slept in, a TV, and a mini fridge. He would
be locked out of the house when they went to bed,

(01:11):
so he had to use the bathroom outside in the
woods after that. Geez, what did she steal from him?
He's got nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
This guy is at rock bottom massage cheese.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
He had no car and no job at all, and
his wife had left him a year prior. He was
on workmen's comp for a work related injury and was
in the middle of a lawsuit. Okay, things were going
pretty good, and we got along pretty well and had
a lot of fun together. In April of twenty seventeen,
he got my family and his family together at my parents'

(01:42):
house to have a dinner. Said it was so our
families could meet to see how they could get along.
Little did I know it was so he could propose.
Being on the spot, I said yes, and by the
time we left, everyone had already picked a date for
the wedding August of twenty seventeen and started planning it.
Me feeling the pressure, went along with it. The next

(02:03):
four months were super stressful, planning the wedding and trying
to figure out if this is what I wanted to do.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
This is not the situation you want to be in.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
I gotten married. I had always told him I wanted
to date at least a year before even being proposed to,
and I almost left him multiple times, but our families
talked me into staying because every couple goes through this
when planning a wedding. August comes and we are married.
Everything was fine for a while, but we would have

(02:31):
small disagreements that I now realized were huge. On our
one year anniversary, I bought him a vehicle. Jeez, marry me,
I need one. It was a brand new twenty eighteen
thirty five thousand dollars vehicle, even though I was in
a beat up two thousand and five vehicle. We had
moved into a new place. He said it was weird
staying somewhere that my exes had been, and convinced me

(02:54):
we needed a fresh start in a home that was ours.
And even managed to get him a job with a
large retail company because a friend of mine was a
manager there. I even had helped him set up to
a manager's position there within a couple of months of
being there. So basically, in the span of a year
and a half, he went from nothing to having a wife, home, vehicle,

(03:18):
and well paying job because of me.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Wow, Yeah, because of you. That's crazy. You've taken this
guy who was borderline like just optically at his least
worthwhile like good, just like doesn't have a bathroom at night,
rock bottom type stuff, and you have flipped his entire life,
and I hope nothing bad happens because of it.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
I'm once again wondering, what did she take from this man?
Because she gave him everything.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
He might just be really hot. A lot of times
when we have stories.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Like this and we're like, how does this make sense,
we're like, oh, what if they're just really hot?

Speaker 2 (03:56):
It could be that's true, Might not be though, might
be true.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Love.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Well, the home we moved into, I knew the landlord
since I was a kid, so he was happy to
give me a special rate on the place. And my
ex knew it was because the landlord knew me that
we got this place. This is relevant. Later in twenty nineteen,
we got to a point we were fighting all the
time and I felt unappreciated. I was always told I

(04:20):
didn't do anything to you. You have no reason to
feel that way. You need to stop being so emotional.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yikes.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
The straw that broke the camel's back came when I
got home from work. I was working ten hour days,
six days a week. One day and he was passed
out on the couch while my son autistic was in
the kitchen and had gotten a hold of a knife
and said he was trying to make us dinner. I
got my son and left to stay with my parents
for a while. Over the next few months, we tried

(04:48):
to work things out. We decided to start over it
day in a while to see how things went and
go from there. I didn't want to be another statistic
and was feeling pressured from parents to make it work out.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
What is there to work out with this guy?

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, they shouldn't have pressured him to propose.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
They maybe they know about this, like whatever, this settlement
that he's trying to get, and they're like he's gonna
have million.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, I just wait till the lawsuit kicks in.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Just wait, babe.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Ultimately, in twenty twenty, I decided I was done for good,
found my own place, and cut contact. For the most part.
I'm twenty nine and he is thirty three. Now they're
still so young. At this point, I just wanted to
be done, and we agreed that I could take all
my son's belongings and we would split the rest of
my stuff so he wasn't left with nothing, and he

(05:33):
could keep the place we had. He got a house
out of this.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
You're literally just like, come on, give it. You're gonna
give him the house. You're gonna give him the car.
You're gonna give him half of your own stuff. You're
just like you my kids stuff back.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah. Wow, Angel, give me a little too much of one.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
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Speaker 2 (05:53):
Okay, back to the street.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
We also agreed he could keep the vehicle, but only
so long as he would make the payments on it
on time, and once he was able to finance himself,
he would take my name off or he could pay
it off and I would sign it over to him.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
No no, no, no, no, no, no no no no, that is
a bad idea.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
I'll tell you one thing.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
I know for a fact that guy is not making
all the payments on that vehicle, and he doesn't have
to because it's not your name.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
That's bad, bad, bad bad. The vehicle was in my name,
along with the least to the home. Her credit score
is about to Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
You're about to You're throwing your credit score into a volcano.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Like for this guy.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
He made the first payment on time, but the second month,
when I contacted him about the payment, he said he
didn't have it and needed to wait until he got
paid at the end of the week. I was getting
nervous because the payment was due within a week and
a half. When I contacted him again and again, he
said I don't have it and then hung up. It
was Friday. Payment was due the next Wednesday. That Sunday,

(06:56):
a mutual friend and I was hanging out and let
it slip that he was already engaged to another woman. WHOA,
and said he was gonna keep the vehicle until they
rebow it so he could ruin my credit and screw
me one last time.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
WHOA? This guy is a demon?

Speaker 3 (07:16):
How do you She gave you a house and a
car and you're like, yeah, let me screw over?

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Who are you?

Speaker 1 (07:22):
This is where he effed up. Of course, being the
owner of the vehicle. On that Monday, while he was
at work, I had someone drop me off in the
parking lot to pick up my vehicle. I got straight
in door wasn't locked, and drove it home. Who doesn't
lie a car door.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
If you have the key in the car and it's unlocked,
you don't deserve to even have one of the first place.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
This man is rude and dumb. His work was about
an hour from where we lived. Once he got off
work and realized he had no way home, he called
and told me if I didn't bring him his vehicle back,
that he would come to my house and get it.
I told him to go ahead, and as soon as
he drove it off my property, I would have him
arrested and charged for grand theft. Auto get him, at

(08:06):
which point I told him he could return his key
to the vehicle and collect his belongings out of it.
During the heat of the fight, I said, I picked
you up from nothing and gave you everything and even
made this as simple as I could so you were
not left with nothing again. But keep on and I'll
make sure to leave you where I found you.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Ooh oh, I'll leave you where I found you. Drop
on sis.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
It's at rock but underneath the rock at rock bottom,
like that's where you were very bikini body, and it's
honest rock where you should be based on how you've
been behaving in this story.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
He tried to call my bluff, but ultimately gave me
the key and took his belongings and left. I took
the vehicle, cleaned it up, took it to a dealership
and sold it before the payment was due, and got
it paid off and even an extra six thousand for
it over payoff value. He relentlessly harassed me from the
time he left till I had enough. On Thursday, I

(09:04):
had over one thousand Texan voicemails telling me I'm a
petty beep and that I'm going to pay for leaving
him without a vehicle.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Funny thing about that is she actually got paid for
leaving you without a vehicle.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
As she should, and also like she left him better
than he was before she picked him up. Yeah, so dude,
she why is he complaining she tried to give you a.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
House in a car and you were like you're You're yeah,
I'm above you.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Wild.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
So I made good on my threat. I called the landlord,
explained what happened, and told him my name was to
come off the lease. He happily took my name off.
I called the internet, water and power companies and told
them I moved and needed the service that was in
my name disconnected from the previous address. They happily disconnected
the same day. Mans don't got water or power.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Not until you start paying for it.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Now here we go. I also called my friend his
manager and told her about him leaving the cash safe
keys unattended in the vehicle unlocked in the parking lot
while on the clock.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
This guy is just completely inept.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
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Speaker 2 (10:23):
Give it a tap.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
So clearly the solution here is like, well, the solution
has already been done.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
I think justice is being served.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yeah, she's serving justice of just a hot steaming plate
of justice.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
And I hope her wealth is multiplied.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah, it's gotta be, because she's not taking care of
this man baby anymore.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Who's just leeching all of her money from him?

Speaker 1 (10:46):
So sad. People are weird. When he got home from work,
he had no water, no power, and no internet. His
credit was shot so he couldn't get water power in
his name, so he eventually was evicted. Dude to not
being able to maintain the property in proper living conditions.
On Friday, he was called into the office and let

(11:06):
go due to negligence. I texted him Friday evening and
told him that now he has seen a petty beep
and now I can officially say I left him where
I found him, blocked him and never looked back. Wow.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Congratulations. That guy fully deserve that treatment.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
I will say the EmPATH in me like, does feel
for this guy a little bit, but also.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
No, stop it, get out of here, No, your EmPATH.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
He literally got engaged to another woman immediately. He's true,
and she's like, He's like, I can't wait. I'm gonna
screw her where one more time? True by getting the
car repote and ruining her credit.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
You deserve every bad thing that ever happens to you.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
You're right, you don't deserve my empathy. Okay. Edit to
add the divorce was finalized in twenty twenty one. This
is what we agreed to amongst ourselves when we were separated.
By the time the divorce was finalized, we had lived
separate lives for a year with no contact, and that
is the end. My ex husband said, our kids don't
recognize him as their father, I said, that's his faults.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah, maybe you should have been there for him a
little bit more.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
That's just my guess.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
I'm thirty three and have two kids, twelve and eight.
I divorced their dad when I discovered he was cheating
on me with the mom from our younger son's school group.
Despite that betrayal, I agreed to share custody because I
wanted my kids to grow up with their father and
their lives. By the way, this comes from you glittering
mail one one seven on the rok Storytime subreddit. However,

(12:42):
since the divorce, he's only been around when he's picking
them up for visits. He often goes out with his stepchildren,
but rarely includes our kids, claiming those outings are spur
of the moment and can't always include them. Eventually I
stopped pushing it, but I've always thought it was unfair
that he keeps his distance from our children's lives. Recently,

(13:05):
I decided to upgrade my older son's computer, and he
asked if we could give his old one to his cousin,
my brother's son. My brother has been a huge support
for my kids. He's always available to take them to
their school events, when I can't, and often takes him
out to the park or for trips when I'm busy.
My ex, on the other hand, is rarely available for them.

(13:25):
Any time I ask him for help with inactivity, he
has an excuse he's out of town or swamped with work. Ironically, though,
whenever his step kids need something, he's there. Very suspicious,
very interesting, see what his priorities lie. Once he even
argued with the step kid's father at a school event,

(13:47):
insisting he had the right to be there. When my
ex found out I gave the computer to my nephew,
he got upset. He complained that if I had money
to spare on a gift like that, I should have
forgiven to two months of child support he'd missed since
his finances were tight with a new baby, skipping on
child support. He added that if I could give away

(14:09):
a computer, I should have gifted it to either his
kids or his step kids, who shared just one computer
among the three of them. I told him my finances
were none of his business and that I owed nothing
to his stepchildren. Then his wife jumped into the conversation,
accusing ME of spoiling my son by giving him a

(14:29):
new computer and of being petty for letting my son
bring it to their house, claiming it was just to
show off in front of his step siblings. I told
her she had no right to speak to me that
way or question my decisions. I added that I allow
my kids to see their father so they can grow
up with him in their lives, not so she can
interfere with how I parent. My ex was offended, but

(14:51):
I told him this whole situation could have been avoided
if his wife hadn't inserted herself where she doesn't belong.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, hello, this is my child and and his cousin,
my brother slash his uncle. You're not hey, you're not
involved here? Golly, be involved with your own kids.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, blended family. I feel like that's a tough situation,
but that's not like the woman's fault. After that, things
seemed to calm down until last week. I went to
pick up the kids and my ex was visibly upset.
He explained that he'd tried reading a bedtime story to
our youngest at home. He still likes to be read
before bed, usually by me, his brother, or my brother,

(15:30):
and when none of us are around, he listens to audiobooks. Apparently,
my ex wanted to make an effort to connect, so
he offered to read to him, but our son turned
him down, saying he didn't need him for that because
he could do it himself. My ex stayed to listen
as he searched for a story for eight year olds
without a dad on his tablet, and it hit him hard.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, I bet it. I hope it hit you hard.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
That should be a big wake up call that you've
been an absentee parent in your youngest son's live.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Also, that's like, it's so sad, but also like kind
of funny that the son was like story for eight
year olds. I thought a dad like as his dad's
like in.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
The room, he's trying to he's just trying to feel
what he feels this dad.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
It's that it's basically my stepdad.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
And yeah, he probably thinks of his cool uncle more
of his dad father, the cool uncle.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
What's going to be?

Speaker 1 (16:26):
I can The next day, my ex offered to take
our older son to basketball practice, but he replied that
he'd be going with his dad. He quickly corrected himself
and said uncle. That made my ex even angrier. And
when I came to pick up the kids, he confronted
me about it. I told him that if our kids
feel like they don't have a father, he has only

(16:47):
himself to blame. He tried to shift the blame onto me,
saying I was the one pushing him away from his role.
I told him it's up to him to show up
for his kids, not something I can do for him.
I reminded him that he was the one who broke
our family and he's chosen to be more involved with
his step kids than with his own children. I told
him not to kid himself. The kids are growing up

(17:08):
and they're starting to see the reality of who he
is as a father. If he keeps us up, he
can't expect much from them in the future.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
I feel like he kind of just did it to himself.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Hello, knock, knock. The consequences of your actions are here. Yeah,
your kids don't really like you. Yeah, you need now
to step up.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
After that exchange, his mom called me. While she's always
been polite to me, I felt the need to say
that I would have appreciated the same concern from her
when she supported her son's affair, knowing her grandchildren were
losing their father in the process. She hung up and
we haven't spoken since. My brother advised me that I
had every right to express how I feel, but he

(17:47):
suggested that maybe the discussion shouldn't have happened in front
of the kids. Oh that's yeah. Later my ex texted
me saying that if I weren't so difficult, he'd spend
more time with them. I told him his duty as
a father doesn't depend on whether I'm easy or not,
and he knows I've never prevented him from seeing the kids.
The truth is, when he has to choose, he prefers

(18:09):
outings with his step kids over his own children, and
that's something only he can change.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Time to take personal responsibility. Man, this is one hundred
percent on you update.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
These past days have been a bit unusual. First, I
want to thank all of you. I didn't expect to
receive so much advice, and I never thought this app
would be so useful. It's not very popular in my country.
Now back to the topic. My ex sent me messages
saying he wanted to resolve things, stop arguing and talk
to me. I agreed. He came to my house and

(18:40):
we didn't beat around the bush. We went straight to
the point. He asked me if I really thought he
was a bad father. I replied that, looking back now,
I never would have chosen him to be the father
of my children. He said it wasn't easy for him,
and I answered that it wasn't easy for me either,
because I take on both his role and mine. He
told me he could I didn't leave his step children

(19:01):
without a father because he had already broken their family,
and I replied that he had left his own children
without a father. He started crying and told me it
was my fault, saying that when the infidelity happened, I
refused to forgive him or go to couple's therapy.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
I am so mad at this guy.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Jesus, they have all the tools that you need to
repair this problem in your life. They're right here. They're
in your hands. They are your own two hands. You
can fix this like it's her fault that you cheated.
How on earth are you going to say that it's
your ex wife's fault for not forgiving you for cheating
on her.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
You are an absurd person.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
I kept telling him things. I'll admit they weren't kind,
but none of them were lies. He asked me if,
given his current state, I didn't feel sorry for him,
and I said no. He told me he didn't think
I could be so cruel, and I replied that when
I changed jobs, pulled my kids out of school two
months before the end of the term, moved houses, and

(20:03):
watched him disappoint our kids over and over again, any
empathy I might have felt turned into apathy.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Wow, Mike dropped on that for sure. Yeah, and well deserved,
Mike drop. This guy's just he just wants someone to
baby him.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
He left. After that, his mother called me and said
that she knew what I had told her son, that
he hadn't stopped crying, and that she didn't understand how
I could carry so much hatred to her son.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Like that, Why is the mom the mediator? This guy
is a Why you're a grown man. Why is your
mom mediating your conversations with your ex?

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Also, like don't you care about your grandchildren? Like don't
you feel bad for the situation? Where's the remorse?

Speaker 2 (20:44):
The apple must not fall far from the tree.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
She said, I should just get over it. I answered,
with all due respect, what I said wasn't out of hatred,
but out of truth. If your son is crying, it's
because he's finally facing the consequences of his actions. Maybe
instead of worrying about how he feels now, you should
have taught him to take responsibility and treat people with respect. Yes,
she said, I didn't know what it was like to

(21:08):
feel a mother's love and see a child suffer. And
I replied that I did understand because I have two
children who cry over a living father, two children who
see their dad being a father to other kids when
he doesn't have time to be their father. She said
he was sorry, and I told her not to put
words in his mouth and to stop calling me about

(21:29):
anything related to her son. I hung up. I wanted
to cry so badly, but I'm a danged mother and
I don't have time for that. I want my kids
to feel safe, loved, and strong enough to not need anyone,
not even me, to be themselves.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
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Speaker 2 (21:49):
Okay, back to the story.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Last Thursday, I took my kids to their cousin's birthday
party hosted by my ex sister in law. I still
have a good relationship with her. She was the one
who told me about the infidel and that her mother
was already encouraging it. My ex showed up alone and irritated.
My kids kept their distance from him. They kissed his hand,
but then ignored him completely. My ex mother in law

(22:13):
told the kids they should show more respect to their father,
and my eldest replied that he doesn't show respect for me,
since he and his partner talked badly about me. I
scolded my son not for what he said, but for
how he addressed his grandmother. I told him it was
wrong to eavesdrop on private conversations and repeat them. Then
I asked him to gather his things because we were leaving.

(22:34):
My ex mother in law asked me not to leave,
saying the kids were having fun and we could resolve
this as adults. She asked my ex what he had said,
and he claimed not to remember. I told her I
didn't care, and she said we should be good parents.
I replied that to be good parents, you need to
be good people first.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Boom, this is.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Dragging on so long too, Like this makes me so
sad for these kids collateral damage to this like dis
functional dynamic.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
You gotta think of the children.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
You can't just go choose like your new family over
your old family for years and then be like.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Wait, why do my kids not like me?

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (23:11):
It's like yeah, because you were not there for them
in their formative years.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, my ex was getting agitated. My ex mother in
law asked why we couldn't have a civilized co parenting relationship.
I told her everything I've mentioned here about his free
will to see the kids and how the second custody
agreement isn't working since he only sees them some weekends.
My ex didn't want to discuss it, saying he had
too many kids at home. My ex mother in law

(23:37):
told him the only kids who should feel comfortable are his,
and the comfort of that of the others should be
provided by their biological father.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Amen, Hey, grandma's been in fact, mus been in facts.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Finally, my ex wanted to end the conversation because his
mother was scolding him for being a careless father. He
also said it was my fault. I asked him to
clarify how it was my fault. You can see the
kids whenever you want. What more do you want? He
started yelling, claiming I was only being petty because I
didn't really need the money, since I earned more than
him and had fewer kids to feed. I told him

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I wouldn't continue the conversation and that I'd show him
what being uncivilized looks like by filing for the overdue
child support payments. His mother asked what I meant by
overdue payments. I explained that he was three months behind.
She was furious, slapped him and demanded to know what
he had done with the money for his children. He answered,
I couldn't let Junior miss out on attending the same

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school as my son. I didn't want him to feel inferior. Dude,
you're not meeting the mark. Junior doesn't need to go
to the same school.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
It's okay, Yeah, that's facts. Junior does not necessarily need
to go to the same school. Yeah, you have child
support payments to me.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Take care of your other kids too. My ex mother
in law said she couldn't believe it, and they started arguing.
I left yet, for context, my youngest son attends a
private school, and my ex pays for his step son
to attend the same school. Yesterday, my ex mother in
law came over and said she would pay the overdue fees.
She brought the money in cash.

Speaker 5 (25:08):
I knew my.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Ex would be furious. Here's some contexts. My ex mother
in law doesn't work, doesn't own anything herself, and lives
with my ex sister in law. However, she does have
significant savings from her inheritance if she pays the tuition
my ex and knows there won't be much left for
him when she passes, even though she's still healthy. He's

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been asking her for years to invest some of that
money in his business ideas, but she's always refused. My
ex's retaliation was not picking up the kids this weekend.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
WHOA, what a perfect logical leap you took there.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
You're like, I want to get back at my ex
wife for making me pay child support. I guess I'll
be a beat dad. That'll make my kids like me. Dude,
you just keep digging the hole deeper and deeper and deeper.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
This is sad. Yesterday, my ex sister in law called me.
He doesn't know all the details yet, but apparently my
ex's fifteen year old step son punched him in the mouth.
She said she'll let me know exactly what happened once
she finds out. This guy just keeps getting karma.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
He is losing on all fronts, and you know he
might just deserve it from the way he's been acting
and treating his family four years.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Man is taking l's left and right before anybody asks.
The new custody agreement will likely take a year to finalize.
The court says the overdue payments are the priority and
the rest can wait. We have more urgent cases. Update two.
A promise is a promise. As I mentioned earlier, my
excess step son had an altercation with him because my

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ex refused to let him go out. Now I have
more details. My excess step son had plans to go
bowling with some friends. His biological father had already given
him permission and money for the outing. However, when he
told his mother, she's said he couldn't go because they
needed him to stay home and watch his younger siblings.
My ex and his wife had planned on outing and

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needed someone to stay with the kids. This led to
an argument. The boy raised his voice to his mother,
and my ex stepped in to demand that he respect her.
The boy replied that he wasn't his father trying to
maintain authority. My ex told him that as long as
he lived under his roof, he had to follow his rules.
The boy ignored him, and turned him away. My ex

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followed him and touched his shoulder to get his attention.
At that moment, the boy turned around, punched him and
shouted that he wasn't his father and could never compare
it to him. Wow, that's so Now your own kids
hate you, and then the step kids that you prioritized
over your own kids hate you too.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
His head's spinning right now, not just from the strong
right he just received from his stepkid, but from just
he's every possible decision, every decision he could have made
in the last like handful of years.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
It's like he's the wrong one every time.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Crazy, I will say.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
To all the children of divorce parents, like, my heart
is with you, because that is so hard.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah, that's what think of the children, Think of the children.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
They have to think of the children.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Like this kid, right, he got permission from one parent
and then the other parents who obviously are not communicating
with the dad, Like, that's a kid should not have
to deal with that.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Well, what would you do in that situation if it's
like your hypothetical child is like, oh I want to
go bowling, but you had like a date night.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Well that's the thing I feel like if you're co parenting,
like you have to communicate with both parents, like even
if you're separated. I feel like parents need to be
on the same page if you don't want to introduce
like chaos and unnecessary like emotional strife. Like the stepdad
could have like checked in with the mom like hey,
or vice versa. The bio dad could have been like, hey,

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Billy just asked me if he could go to the
bowling alley like I'm down, I can give him money.
And then mom's got to be like, hey, actually, we
have this plan so he can't go, and boom, They're
both on the same page, right.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yeah, so it's better a clear communication communication is kihi okay?

Speaker 1 (29:07):
And again this is like my mental health background.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
I'm like, don't traumatize the kids.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
The mother scolded him for his behavior, but the boy,
still angry, shouted back that he hated her. This version
was shared by my ex and his wife to my
ex mother in law. My sister in law later related
to me they went to see my ex mother in
law to try to gain her sympathy and convince her
to take care of the kids, the two step children

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and the baby so they could go out However, my
ex mother in law told them she would not take
care of the children even the grandma's turning against them.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Literally, zero people on your side.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
When I spoke to my ex, he mentioned he was
dealing with family issues and claimed that the boy's biological
father was turning him against him. He didn't give me
many details and omitted most of what my sister in
law had shared. He simply informed me that due to
the situation, he wouldn't be able to pick up our
children this weekend. The fifteen year old boy is now

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staying with his biological father. As for what I mentioned earlier,
my ex was two months behind on child support and
that same week he was supposed to make another payment.
He didn't, leaving him three months behind. In the end,
his mother was the one who covered the overdue amount.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
You gotta feel bad having your mom cover all that
you gotta, right, or does this guy not feel bad
about anything?

Speaker 2 (30:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
He's got to feel bad about stuff, right, Yeah, he's
got it, but he only feels bad about himself.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Well, while she's covering the bills, we're covering the content.
So by the way, you can join us live on
YouTube and Facebook every weekday at three pm PST. And
we're probably live right now, so tap our profile. There's
another relevant update. But let's discuss this guy is a
nightmare and his family is falling apart.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
I mean he's already doghouse with his own kids.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Now he's in the doghouse with the older step child who, like,
clearly this guy just does not have any self awareness,
because I can almost see in my head like he
instead of you know, clearly the kid. He's fifteen years old.
You thought you're going bowling with your friends. Now you're
told that your babysitting. You are upset. I can put

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myself in that person's shoes. I'm mad.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, And it's like dad.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Already said I can go, and now Mom's like no,
And then you get kind of snippy, and then this
the random dude you have no respect for it, Yeah,
probably because you've seen the way that he.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Treats his own kids.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, is like you can't say that, and you're just
gonna be like shut up, Dave.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah, who do you think you are?

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Dave? You know my dad get out of here. Yeah,
and you can't walk away from me.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
I mean, maybe you don't clock him with the strong right,
but on a real level. Yeah, that's the solid advice
is like, y'all need some counseling.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
I'll get some healing. Regarding the child who attends the
same school as my son, it's not the fifteen year
old involved in the altercation, it's his younger stepbrother, who
is eight years old, the same age as my son.
I decided to enroll my son in that school when
the affair became public. At the time, I was working
as a kindergarten teacher at the same school and the

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boy had been one of my students. We all knew
each other, and to protect my children from rumors, I
transferred them to a private school. This happened two months
before the school year ended. Thanks to the circumstances and
the support of some kind people, we managed to get
them admitted. That's the end.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
My ex husband cheated on me, so I exposed his
theft to our friends. Tell everyone to make an incredibly
long story short, I twenty seven female, caught my husband
twenty nine male, cheating back in the beginning of June,
after he said he wanted a break in our nine year,

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five year married relationship with a woman he met on
an online game in Australia.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
What was he playing? How do I find this game?
Just kidding?

Speaker 5 (33:06):
Who lives in Australia right now and is playing this game?
By the way, this comes from the spiciest cucumber on
the Okay storytime separed it so when I tried to
reach out to him after he had left to try
and fix things, he said, I'm not coming back. I'm
not afraid of change anymore. I don't want to fix us.

Speaker 6 (33:22):
I'm done.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
Dang, that game really turned his whole life around. Did
I wonder if he moved to Australia. I was upset
and hurt, and we both respectively moved into our parents' houses,
me going to my mom and dad's and him moving
to his mom and grandmother's. During this time, his mom
and grandmother still spoke to me and shared their condolences
with me. They loved me like their own and were

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very upset with my ex for doing this to me.
Now a bit about my ex. I loved him greatly.
He did have things I would get upset about.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
I e.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
Constantly calling into work to play video games. Well was
he actually playing video games? Or was he gen on you?

Speaker 1 (33:58):
This guy really has a thing for video, not.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Communicating feelings, not doing chores, et cetera. However, we had
fun together. I would often join things he wanted to
do together, like LARPing, running a role played tavern at
ren fairs, and playing card games like Yugyoh and Disney's
card game Lorcana at the game store he worked at.
And we had a great community slash friend group in both.

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That does sound so fun.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
What is LARPing?

Speaker 5 (34:23):
It's like live action role playing. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
So it's like if you go too. It's not exactly
like you could do LARPing at a ren fairs, like costplaying,
but you're in character, So you're in costume and you're
in character.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
We had fun playing together and it was a nice
way to spend time with ourselves and our friends. When
both groups found out that I had filed for divorce,
they came to me and asked what had happened, and
I told them a very short summary, and they were shocked.
Apparently he had just been telling people we both fell
out of love, which is hard to believe because we

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were a cute couple to most. About a week after
he I met with him to get him to sign
a document that he would need to either refinance his
van or sell it as my mother is a co
signer on his van by a certain time as he
plans to move to Australia to be with his mistress. Dang,
he's uprooting his whole life for this stress, for this
lady that he met on a game. He doesn't has

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he met her in person before. I'm assuming not. If
he didn't pay the three K left on it, it
would get put on my mom and she does not
want to handle that on top of her health problems
right now, and he has a habit of making late payments.
He said it was a fair statement and that he
had no problem with it. He then tried to be
friendly ask how the dogs and cats were adjusting. He

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then gives me the only apology I have still received
from him, which was, I'm sorry this has hurt you.
Couldn't even say like, I'm sorry I hurt you, just
this situation, Sorry that someone else, you know, the game
got in the way.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
It's giving gaslight. It's like, I'm sorry you felt like
I hurt you, not even accountability.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
No, I had never felt more anger in my life.
Flash forward two months at the beginning of August, I
have a new, well paying job and have a really
great support system behind me. My ex has all but
abandoned every friend group except a few mutuals here and
there and the LARP group, as he had known a
majority of them longer than I had, some of them

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being friends for over eleven years. He had a habit
of not reaching out to people until he needed something,
and he would always frustrate my friends and I as
we seemed more convenient than actual friends. I think this
is where the title starts to come into play. I
go into the card shop to play Lorcana and I
had a paper for him to sign for tax reasons.

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I ask our friend at the counter where he was,
and turns out he had been fired for calling in
sick and then going to an event where he posted
pictures of him being there, so he's also just a
bad liar in general. I was shocked, as the owner
is good friends with my ex. But I guess my
exit called in six seventeen times in four months and

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the owner got sick of it. He also said he
had caught him selling cards back to the shop, but
they were my lorcana cards. As they saw me pull
some of them in store and would then see them
in his cell pile a few days later, when we
were still living together. I was furious, but thanked them
for telling me you can't catch a break.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
This poor woman. She gets cheated on and then her
stuff is stolen. Also like this man just keeps calling
in sick.

Speaker 5 (37:27):
Yeah, seventeen days, get a better excuse to ask for
some time off. I don't know, it's ridiculous. The next week,
I find out from the owner of our LARP group
that the members of the group aren't supposed to take
money from tips, as no one person is better than
the group as a whole. This immediately raised a red
flag for me, as my ex took tips, but told
me it had been okayed by the owner.

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Speaker 2 (37:55):
Okay, back to the story.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
I asked them to clarify, and they said they had
suspicions of people doing it, but had no proof. Since
my ex was going to be going to Australia, I
figured I wouldn't tell them as I wanted him to
still have friends before he left. However, they told me
he was wanting to come to the planned events for
the rest of the year, so I told them I
had found a screenshot from two years ago confirming that

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he had taken two hundred dollars from an event in
tips and used it to buy a gaming computer. Oh
my god, two hundred dollars from one event caught up
guys getting tip. Well, we did the math and he
had probably taken over five hundred dollars total over those
two years. He's not even good at getting tips.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Honestly, I expected more.

Speaker 5 (38:38):
Yeah, over like five hundred years, he only had five
hundred dollars. I feel like my friends who work in
service industry in one day. Yeah, we'll get like, you know,
three hundred dollars in a day or something.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
This guy's bad.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
It's bad server.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
And I confessed that he had given me some of it,
but I was under the impression that the bartending staff
could keep the tips handed to us and have since
paid them back in full with interest because I felt.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Felt so horrible.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
So hope he was saying she was under the impression
that he was allowed to do this and is now
giving it all back, which.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Is very considered okay, we slay on his queen.

Speaker 5 (39:12):
The following week, they couldfront him over phone and gave
him multiple tries to come clean on his own, but
he denied it and said that he was tired of
me trying to ruin his life and that I was
setting him up. Then they said they had proof, and
he said that he had only taken one hundred dollars
total from the tips. They show him the screenshot and
he types for a long time but only responds with

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a I see.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
That's what he's like.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
So he goes from he goes, I didn't take anything,
and they're like, well, be a proof, and he's like,
I'm being set up and they're like, no, you you
took money. And he's like, well, I only took one
hundred dollars and they're like no, and he was like,
I see, I see. They offered to let him stay
in the group, but he just can't be around the money,
but he declined immediately and told them he wishes them

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the best and respond to any other message, including a
message where he can pay back the two hundred dollars
at most. By the way, you can pay us back
by joining us live every Weekdad three PMPSD on YouTube,
Facebook and TikTok to stop her profile. But what do
you think?

Speaker 2 (40:14):
What do you do here?

Speaker 5 (40:15):
Do you just block this man and never talk to
him again?

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, I mean sounds like he's a lame o and
a liar. Yeah, he's dealing serves lor Kana cards.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:25):
And also I don't know why his friends are still
I mean the fact that he stole money and his
friends were still like, you.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Can still join our the group, like, just you can't
touch the money. He needs to go to Australia orwer
right now, right now.

Speaker 5 (40:38):
I don't know if I was one of his friends, Like,
obviously it makes sense why op he doesn't want to
be around him because he's been awful to her. But
I just don't understand why his friends would want to
stick around this guy. They're good people, yeah, but there
is a little bit left to the story. Am I
an a hole for doing this? Most of my friends
are on my side, even though I told them I
wouldn't make them choose a side. Every time I speak

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about him to my friends who have been in contact,
they tell me he's not doing great mentally and try
to guilt me who's doing that?

Speaker 2 (41:07):
This is so weird.

Speaker 5 (41:08):
She said that most of her friends were on her side,
but then tried.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
To guilt her.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah, yikes.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
I can't contact him since he blocked me on every
social media and my phone number. I'm torn emotionally, as
this was someone I loved for nine years, just throwing
everything away and acting like I never existed. I don't
want to see him fall and drown. But at the
same time, I'm just telling people the truth and I
haven't lied about a single aspect of what I've been saying.

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It's made me realize he wasn't a great person all
the time. I won't be apologizing to him until he
gives me more of an apology than he gave me.
Am I the A hole? No?

Speaker 2 (41:45):
No, you literally just told people the truth.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
This guy, you know, was awful. He screwed you over
so many times. Is moving to Australia stole your Laconic cards.
You can't forget that.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
I have a fresh start in Australia.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
He'll be okay, He'll move on, and you should move
on and not think about him. And any of your
friends who are like, oh, you need to apologize, they're crazy.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
You're not the whole No, and I do. You know,
it's good that you feel bad for the guy, but
he did it, but you don't have to. Yeah, that's
his fault.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
I refused to follow my husband's ex on Facebook.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
She keeps trying to break.

Speaker 6 (42:21):
Us up influencers these days.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Yeah, throwaway account.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
But my female forty six fiances male forty six ex
wife female forty eight is melting down because I won't
include her in my life.

Speaker 6 (42:35):
Just can't wait for her to find this on Facebook.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
She gon't find it now.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
I understand that since there's children involved, there should be
some co parenting on both our parts and that we
should be able to communicate together for the well.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Being of the kids.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
However, with her actions and behavior, I've felt it best
to keep her out of our lives, letting my fiance
who I will call Ben, and her talk about the kids,
and letting him convey their conversations to me without me
getting involved. My argument being, you guys are the parents,
so what you guys decide is between the two of you.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Okay, makes perfect sense.

Speaker 6 (43:09):
Reasonable.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
By the way, this comes from users Stormy Rains on
the r slash okay storytime subreddit. So I've distanced myself
for my own sanity, because once her ex and I
got together, she turned into the jealous ex wife, despite
being the one who cheated on him with his best
friend and leaving Ben for him. She also had a
kid with the friend, which she passed off as Ben's

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until the divorce.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Whoa secret baby? Woo dude she had? Oh no, she's
crazy too.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
She hadn't a fair baby and lied to him about it.
Oh my ay. Once she discovered that Ben moved on,
she started blowing up his phone with furious texts about
how I quote can't hold a candle to her and
it's not love, it's a rebound, as well as telling
him that they both know it's her he wants to with.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
He showed me the texts.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
New Year's Eve, their kids spent a few days at
my place for the first time.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
She had plans, as did we.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
She asked Ben to take care of the kids and
he explained he would be with me. She had no
problems dropping them off so she could go away for
three days. This will come into play in a minute.
By the end of January, Ben and I moved in together,
he with me as I had the bigger place. She
exploded again over our relationship. Valentine's Day night, she blew

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up his phone with spicey pictures of herself and messages of.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
You know you wish it were me with you right now.

Speaker 6 (44:37):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
That is huh. He gotta move on, girl.

Speaker 6 (44:42):
I would give it to my wife and be like,
please delete these pictures.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
I'd be I'd give it to my wife and be
like send some back.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
As furious as I was, I understood that any reaction
from me could be used against him during the custody battle,
and it was best I do and say nothing.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
She was digging her own hole and digging it deep.
Then she changed tactics. She sent me a friend request
on Facebook. I saw it and it baffled me. I
checked my messenger, expecting.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
To see a message of her saying that I'm in
her kids' lives and we should keep in touch about
matters involving them. But there wasn't anything. If roles were reversed,
I would have included a message of intent. And I
understand that not everyone is me, but still this seemed off.

Speaker 6 (45:25):
Maybe she didn't know she could message you until you
guys are friends.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Yeah, for sure, it's a technical problem. I left the
request for a few days and thought it over. Yes
we should have communication between us for the sake of
the kids, but Facebook didn't seem like the place for that.
Most of my page was public but personal things. I
selected family and friends only, and I didn't want her
to have access to that. After thinking it over, I
deleted her requests. Not even an hour later, she's calling

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Ben and screaming that I refused to friend her on
Facebook and that he needs to make me accept her
quote words, you need to make.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Her well, it's crazy, Stacy. I have news for you.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Unfortunately, free will exists, and uh, he's not gonna force
her to do anything.

Speaker 6 (46:07):
Facts.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
When I calmed down, I told him I don't want
her as a Facebook friend. We don't know each other
like that, and I'm not comfortable having her there and
I'm not going to have to guard myself because she'll
be able to see everything.

Speaker 6 (46:19):
There we go.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
She didn't even explain why she wants to be friends.
She just dropped the request and that was it. If
she wants to discuss the kids, she can call, text
or meet me. Ben relate this to her, and my
answer only seemed to infuriate her more. She started saying
that she needs access to my Facebook so she can
see the kind of person her children are spending time with.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
It's her right as their mother.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
And at this Ben then told me to chest friend her,
because in this situation, he'd want to see who his
kids were spending time with too. I doubled down. Oh,
I said, she doesn't need Facebook to get to know me.
She can easily call me up and ask to sit
down face to face over coffee or something like our
parents did back in the day, actually meet, but she

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doesn't want to do that.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
She wants to spy from afar.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
I opened my Facebook and went to view as, which
shows you what the public can see, and handed him
my phone and asked what it was she needed to see.
Most of my page was public except for a few things,
those things being photos and posts about Ben and I,
which I made friends only because I had a feeling
she was already combing through my page. Yeah, I asked

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him what does she need to know that she can't
already see? Then I showed him that the only thing
she couldn't see are my posts about him. I told
him all of this is bs. She didn't care who
I was on New year's when she dropped the kids
off at my place for three days and took off
to party. It's not like there was no way she
can communicate with me about the kids.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
She can call, she can text.

Speaker 6 (47:47):
Yeah, and that's the most direct way to communicate with
someone this.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
It's like, she's totally right.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
The Facebook is completely unnecessary for what she's saying she
wants to use it for. I went on and on
about how laughable it is is that she's worried about
the kind of person I am when she's the one
who dropped her kids off at a total stranger's house
and never called to check in on them the entire
time they were over. How she goes on a personal
attack on someone she doesn't even know. She sure has

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a lot to say about me, considering we have never
spoke to each other, going so far to keep telling
her ex how much better she is than me, Oh
my god, sending spicy pictures and having a meltdown because
she can't stalk my page, cheating on her husband with
his best friend and having a kid and passing it
off as his Yeah, hello, look in the.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Mirror, girl, you were the problem.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
I am not the one pulling all this crap, nor
would I. I went on to say that I think
she's seen enough of the kind of person I am,
because I'm sure as heck have seen enough to know
what a complete piece of crap she is.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
And I don't even need to.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Look at her Facebook page to find that out. Oh, Mike,
drop boom. Ben reluctantly agreed with me. He said I
was right, and he understood. But yes, there's a butt here.
But he said it would make things a lot easier
if I just accepted her friend request so he could
stop fighting with.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Her over it.

Speaker 6 (49:04):
M mmmmmm. It just is gonna make her shut up. Yeah,
there's gonna be another thing.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
It's not gonna stop.

Speaker 6 (49:10):
Okay, Then share me your account pausewords.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Yeah, can I take a.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Look at your bank accounts because I need to make
sure that this woman's not spending your money on anything unnecessary.
Give me her social Security number immediately. Yeah, I need
to do a background check. That pissed me off because
I saw that as him still letting her have the
control over him, and I wasn't having it. As far
as I'm concerned, there's nothing to fight over the answer
is no, and that's that she just doesn't want to

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accept it. I refuse to give in to the request
and tripled down.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
I said that there is no need for her and
I to ever speak. She's not a part of my life,
nor will she be. There's nothing she needs to convey
to me. Ever, if it's about the kids, she can
talk to you their father, and you can tell me
and we can handle what we need to on our end.
My life will not include her and I will not
stand for her trying to control me through Bend. She
did like that I was still refusing. Her next action

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was to start sending friend requests to my friends and family.
When my sister called me asking why Ben's ex wife
was sending her a friend request.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
I just about lost it.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
Yeah, I had enough and shut her out as much
as I could. I made a post on Facebook about
what was happening, which got me screenshots from people showing
me the friend requests they received from her, and I
changed my settings so that she couldn't see a dang thing.
I figured she'd make a backup account and try snooping.
I blocked her on every social media platform I have.
She's currently still calling and texting that I'm hiding from

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her because I don't want her to see that I'm
a danger to their kids all because I shut her out.
I don't think I'm being unreasonable. I don't think I
need to give her full access to my life, and
I believe that our life with the kids can be
separate from her. What we do as a family is
what we do. What she does when she has them
is what she does. And I honestly think that giving
in only opens the door to more issues. Exactly what

(50:56):
you said, Riley, I really think I'm making the right
choice here. Additional information I'm going to add Ben and
her were married for over twenty years. Oh wow, that's
quite a lot of time.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
That's it. The ain't know what job about me? It
explains her.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
I think a couple things actually explain that level of attachment.
Is that one they were together for twenty years. Two
it's her fault that it ended because she cheated on him,
and she's now obsessed with like fixing this mistake or
like undoing it. And it's like, you know, she's probably me.
I guarantee you she has never fully accepted responsibility for
what she did.

Speaker 6 (51:31):
Oh heck no, the way she's acting, no, And if
she did. It was just to manipulate to get back
into the situation.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
They were together since they were teens. He's gone through
twenty years of her lies, gaslighting, abuse and manipulations. For him,
it's easier to give in rather than fight, taking the
path of least resistance. Ah, he's got the muscle memory. Yeah,
he's just like, just let just do it. It's so
much easier to get easier.

Speaker 6 (51:55):
And then if you just crawl on the ground and
lie like this in a fetal position, she just goes away.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Giving into her was easier than emotional and physical abuse.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
He went through a lot for the sake of his family,
and despite everything, tried his best to hold it together.
It's patterned behavior which I'm trying to help him with.
It's a process, and breaking the patterns isn't going to
happen overnight. Everyone deserves a worthy and healthy love and
taking on someone that's been through the emotional slash physical
ringer is going to come with its share of hiccups
and adjustments. This is an ongoing battle because of the kids.

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We are documenting everything good, thank god, We're recording calls,
saving screenshots, all that good stuff. It's soul crushing, taking
it and not giving it twice as hard back. However,
as I stated, the cards are stacking more and more against.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Her with each one of her outbursts.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Not doing anything is hopefully going to show the courts
how unhinged she is. As long as we don't engage
in it ourselves, it goes more in our favor. Keep
in mind there are children involved, and they are watching
her go bonkers. Meanwhile, they're not seeing any craziness from Ben.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Now.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
As I stated, Ben has years of her minulation conditioning,
and she is pretty good at trying to flip things
around and make you look like you're the one who's
the bad guy. He's still stuck on the inside looking out,
where we're on the outside.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Looking in so we can see clearly the bigger picture.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
And this is where I am the a hole, because
I actually enjoy locking horns with her and showing her
that her tactics don't work on me, and I get
a little satisfaction in seeing her come apart and not
getting her way. She's so used to having control over Ben,
it's killing her that she's slowly losing that. I snatched
the controller out of her hands and she's throwing a
tantrum over it. And by the way, you don't have

(53:34):
to throw a tantrum, because you can just join us
when we go live on YouTube Facebook, and we're always
live every.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Weekday at three PMPST. So tap our profile and.

Speaker 6 (53:43):
Ahead, join us.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
We just might be live right now. You never know, never, no,
go ahead and check. Ben will get.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Where he needs to be one day at a time.
Is he worth it?

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Yes, a faithful man that despite everything fought for his family.
He went through heck, and I feel like he deserves
a healthy, loving relationship. To me, this drama is all
temporary and hey, op, you're right about that. Drama does
not last forever. It's just one bad chapter in our book. Eventually,
she will exhaust herself and she'll either lose legally or
the kids hit that age, which is soon where co
parenting isn't necessary anymore. Ben's figuring it out. He's got

(54:15):
a long road of healing, and I'd rather support him
over abandoning him. And that is the end of that story.
And hey, support him maybe going to therapy. You're definitely there.
You're a great support for him. In a professional setting,
it could certainly help him work through as some of
the experiences he went through with his ex wife, who
is a crazy manipulator.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Isn't that right? Dude?

Speaker 6 (54:32):
Agreed? Agreed.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
That is the end of this story, so catch us
on the next one. My husband's ex wife can't move
on now. She won't stop spreading lies or legs. I'm
sorry for grammar mistakes, but English is not my first language.
I twenty eight female, met my husband Rod thirty mail,
nine years ago after I moved to his city, hot Rod.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Hot Rod.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
He was my brother's buddy and we also became friends quickly.
I had a boyfriend at the time and he had
a couple of relationships during the We always liked each other,
but the time was never right. We were just friends
that grabbed the beer together from time to time, had fun,
and gave each other advice on whatever.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Was going on in our lives.

Speaker 6 (55:10):
I'm just like us, just like us.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
And by the way, this comes from user sea Lover
twelve thirty on the r slash Okay storytime subreddit, where
you can submit your stories as well. So two years
ago we found each other both single and looking for
something meaningful, so we started dating and within a year
and a half we got married. I know this sounds rush,
but we have known each other for years and didn't
want to waste any more time. We are just a normal,

(55:35):
happy couple that is trying to enjoy life. This does
not sit well with my husband's ex, Mary thirty three female.
I never met Mary in person, but I have known
her through what Rod and my brother told me about
her over the years. Rod and Mary were together for
about a year and a half before Rod broke up
with her. I'd say two or three months before we
started dating. During the last six months of their relationship,

(55:57):
Rod often complained about her, saying that she wanted to
control his friendships, she was becoming extra jealous, and he
suspected that she was trying to quit her birth control
pills without telling him.

Speaker 6 (56:09):
Oh wow, that seems like a very important piece of information.
You should tell your partner.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
You should tell your partner if you're getting off birth control.
The final straw was about buying a house. She was
unemployed and living with her parents. He was living with
his parents but had finally reached a salary high enough
to ask for a loan and buy a house. Long
story short, He wanted to buy a house for himself.
She wanted him to buy a two family home for him,
her and for her parents. She went ballistic when she

(56:35):
discovered that he found an apartment that he liked and
made an offer.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
He was paying for all of.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
It, so he decided that this was enough, dumped her
and went on a three week long vacation. Dude, Rod
knows how to do it. Hot hot rod knows how
to get it done. From that point on, a nightmare started.
I'll summarize just the main events of the last two
and a half years in bullet points.

Speaker 6 (56:57):
Oh no, thank you, I love bullet points.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Was on vacation.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
She went to his workplace, asking who was the bee
he was sleeping with. Oh, that's not very cool. She
waited for him to come back from the vacation on
the front door of his building with a cake, saying
something like, I forgive.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
You after you boiled it off.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
I think you should tell me you're sorry and hand
me the keys for my house.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
You got all that on a cake?

Speaker 6 (57:20):
WHOA how did you do that?

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Is that a big cake? It must have been a
pretty big one. She sent multiple letters to his address.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
At that point, she was blocked everywhere else because of
constant calling and texting, saying stuff like she got a
tattoo with their initials.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Which she really did.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
She took a pregnancy test that was negative, but new
in her heart she was pregnant and lost the baby,
a baby boy, she said, like a month after being
dump this girl needs their like for real, for real.
She's not only trying to gaslight the X in that letter.
She wrote that to convince herself that that was the truth.

Speaker 6 (57:55):
Oh yeah, you put it on a lit detector out
after that, She's, Oh true.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Dude, she might pass it.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
Oh my god, which is very concerning.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
She really wanted to help him quote fight his demons
and come back to her where he belonged, to mourn
together the loss of their child and try again for
a baby and other nonsense, which, for the record, I
think it's ninety nine percent likely that that child never existed.
One night, she entered his building and sat in front
of his door until midnight, waiting for him to come
back home to talk. The neighbor called Rod when she

(58:24):
went out to walk the dog and found a sobbing
woman she had never seen before on the doormat. When
she found out that we were dating, she started spreading
rumors that he cheated on her with me, he was
cheating on me for sure, and writing in letters that
I was just a replacement to forget her, that he
could stop and come back to her now because she
forgave him. She called most of his friends just to

(58:45):
insult them, because if they were real friends, they would
tell him to take her back because she was his
soul meat, and then proceeded to block them and my
personal favorite, she started a podcast on Spotify using.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
All our real names and surnames.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Every single episode was composed by a part where she
narrated a part of the story, twisting reality like it
was twisted in her mind, like how she was pregnant
and he abandoned her, he cheated on her, et cetera.
A part where she insulted someone, mostly his mother because
quote she handled the divorce badly from his father, so

(59:19):
he has unresolved issues. His father left when he was
a kid to never be seen again. He calls his dad,
his mother's current husband that grew him up, and me
as I am just a pair of unknown thighs, in
which he thinks he finds comfort, but in reality he's
so unhappy.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
You can see it from his Instagram stories. You need
to see.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
Legal restraining orders against this person. This is like dangerously
unhinged behavior. The last part was just her begging him
to come back to her and telling him she knows
he will come back. We had lawyers involved to make
her stop, thank god. And her excuse was that her
psychologist told her to open the podcast. Bro, I think
she needs a new psychologist because clearly it's not doing it.

Speaker 6 (01:00:00):
I think this like Alog just said, hey, just go
in your voice memos and keep it there in a
hidden folder. She's like, oh, make it public, okay, great,
Like yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Your psychologist was like, write letters that you never said,
and she's like, oh great, I'm gonna write fifteen letters
and send all of them. When she found out about
the wedding, she told in her podcast that every plan, date,
and vendor we had was chosen by her when they
were planning their wedding. The problems are, he never proposed
and they were never even talking about getting married. I

(01:00:29):
chose the date and the vendors, which most of them
I know personally for years, and the church and venue
were in my little hometown, a two to three hour
drive from where we all live. We still had to
hire security in case she showed up, and fortunately she
did not.

Speaker 6 (01:00:44):
We are on your side, Op, I believe you, Op,
but I'm just like, I would love to see how
outrageous the other person is. And now I'm like ninety
five percent that you are correct. I just want to
since there's another perspective out there, I want to see it.
That's all I want.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
As of today, she still tried now and then to
have updates on our lives. She burrates him on social media,
insulting him, telling lies like he calls her with mute
calls just to hear her voice. And we know all
of that because she makes sure to tell mutual friends
who are unfortunately caught in the crossfire. And there's nothing
unfortunate about you being caught.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
In our crossfire.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
When we go live every weekday at three PMPST on Facebook, YouTube, TikTok,
and Twitch.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Just tap on our profile for all wondering.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
I know this is the truth because being Rod's friend before,
I have literally lived all.

Speaker 6 (01:01:32):
Of this in real time with him.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
Oh God, I never used social media, but now I
make sure to post at least once a month my
husband's and my smiling faces while on our little adventures adorable,
you know, just to let her know that this pair
of unknown thighs and rod are still having fun together.
Oh well, you know what, OPI I hope you guys
have a beautiful life together and you get some sort

(01:01:55):
of legally binding thing that prevents this woman from definition
coming you. I don't know if you can really sue
her for defamation or prevent her from speaking on you
see if you can, but make it so that if
she gets within like fifty feet of you, like you
can have her arrested. Because she sounds borderline dangerous. Yeah,
she sounds like she's capable of doing something completely unhinged.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Yeah, so keep that in mind.

Speaker 6 (01:02:18):
But that's all we got for you on that. At
the end of that story, my husband's ex wife demanded
I sell my house? Should we could buy her a
new one?

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
I mean it's only fair.

Speaker 6 (01:02:27):
She's mathing bro throwaway account. I thirty two female have
been married to a forty male for two years. He
brought two kids into the marriage, and I have one
of my own, total three. We don't have any children together.
By the way, this comes from Frosty Tier thirty seven
eighty eight on the r slash Okay story Tom Sebright. So,
my husband was previously married and has been divorced for

(01:02:48):
about a decade. His kids live with their mother nearby,
like twenty minutes away. Initially she showed some pretty petty behavior,
but nothing major. She's very entitled and judgmental. She often
made snider me working too much, et cetera. She would
make contrasting statements about me and my husband's marriage compared
to hers, to the point where one day I told

(01:03:09):
her that her relationship with my husband was over and
she needed to move on. My husband backed me up
and she stopped her ways. I honestly don't think she
is over him, but that has nothing to do with me.
She's unemployed since getting fired fifteen years ago, whoa, and
relies on her kids to get more time and money
from my husband.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Dude, that's a whack.

Speaker 6 (01:03:30):
She's been unwell lately, not maintaining her health effectively, and
have been using her condition to collect sympathy points from
my husband, asking him to be there at doctor appointments
of course, to watch the kids while she's there, asking
him for rides constantly because she doesn't feel safe driving.
She's always wanted to attack long when we take the
kids out. She has a boyfriend by the way.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Yeah, this is I don't like this.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
It's like you need to drive, You need someone to
give you a ride because you don't feel safe driving.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Hey, uber lift, Oh I can't for that. Get a job.
It's been fifteen years.

Speaker 6 (01:04:03):
Lately, she's been suggesting to my husband that she isn't
well enough to take care of her children right now.
They have shared custody and they are with us every
other weekend and during school vacations. She told my husband
I should sell my house, which I bought before we met,
to downgrade and buy a smaller home, and to build
her a tiny house on the land close to us

(01:04:23):
to provide more support for her and the kids. Excuse me,
the level of entitlement you have here? Why do you
think you deserve all this?

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Something doesn't add up here, because how is she she's
jobless for fifteen years. How does she have the primary
custody of those kids with no.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Job for fifteen years? Ooh, yeah, there's gonna be something
else there.

Speaker 6 (01:04:46):
I don't know, dude. I was flabberyasted that he would
even mention this to me. I couldn't understand why he
needed to sell my house to accommodate her. I offered
to have the kids live with us, but she'd gone,
stating that she prefers to stay close to the kids
and doesn't trust us to raise them.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Dude.

Speaker 6 (01:05:03):
She has a boyfriend and a family nearby, but insists
on receiving care only from us, dude, even saying that
my husband made vows to her before he made vows
to me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Dude, that is okay, you said earlier you think she's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Still not over your husband. Bro, she just threw their
wedding vows back in your face, So.

Speaker 6 (01:05:23):
Pete, what the heck?

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Dude.

Speaker 6 (01:05:24):
I feel totally disrespected, don't want to sell my house,
and don't want to have a crown woman free loading
off of me. I believe she should rely on her
existing support system. Boom, Yeah, total sense. Some of my
in laws say I'm just being selfish and don't need
such a big house anyways. My husband hasn't expressed anything
either way, which is annoying. I want to stand my ground,

(01:05:46):
but I'm starting to feel like an a hole because
she is sick.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Updates.

Speaker 6 (01:05:51):
Thanks everyone, I think I need to stand my ground here.
I'll speak with him tonight and we'll update. I'm really
tired of the sex and don't think she should be
the main character in our lives anymore. I want to
put this here because a lot of people have been
asking why my husband won't speak up. This was my
response to posts. He says he doesn't want to be
a deadbeat father because his father was, and she often

(01:06:13):
threatens to not allow him to see them.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
How does she have that power though, That's what I
don't understand.

Speaker 6 (01:06:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
It doesn't sound like she should be able to like
throw threats around like that.

Speaker 6 (01:06:25):
I don't understand either. Even at our wedding, she would
not allow the kids to be there unless she was
also invited, and we have an update. I spoke to
my husband and told him that there was absolutely no
way I was going to sell my house. I told
him my house was an investment that I planned to
one day past it to my children as an asset.

(01:06:45):
That he and his parents and his ex are dead
wrong for suggesting I sell it. I said, if his
parents have something to say, then they can build a
tiny home for her on their ten acres of land.
He agreed and said he's been feeling bad that he
was entertaining the idea, but his ex was guilting him
because of her condition. She has MS. I told him

(01:07:06):
that he will no longer be supplementing her lifestyle and
no more running errands. I'm his wife and I should
be priority. I told him that he has to call
her in front of me and tell her this. He
called her and told her that he will no longer
be used as a placeholder for her boyfriend and she
needed to stop trying to manipulate everyone. She said it

(01:07:26):
was unfortunate that I was acting insecure and that I
was interfering with her healthy co parenting relationship. She said
I was young and immature and should consider their kids
and she knew that this would happen one day.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Well, I mean, of course it's gonna happen one day
when you're just like an overbearing, demanding person who's like,
by the way, the kids can't go anywhere without me, yeah,
and by the way, the kids can't do this without
me or do that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
That'd mean blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 6 (01:07:55):
I told her that she needs to get off her
lazy butt and take care of herself and her kids
and stop freeloading off everyone. I told her that she
needed to be focusing on her attention on her current
relationship because that is her best shot at a decent
future because we are pulling back effective immediately, she immediately
started crying and said that she was feeling sick and

(01:08:16):
needs to go to the emergency room. Oh no, and
needed to end the conversation to protect herself and her health.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Dude, I hate being the guy.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
I don't want to be the guy who calls out
the person with chronic illness. But like, it really reads
like she's hiding behind her chronic illness as a get
out of jail free card for whenever she is pressed
to a point of no return.

Speaker 6 (01:08:39):
And we couldn't really get into outlining all the boundaries
before she just hung off and blocked both of us. Wow,
she really is hiding behind it. I typed out an
email and copied all parties involved and sent it to her.
I'm so mad right now. I'm seeing red. And if
you want to see red from the Okay storytime members,
come and join us live every weekday at three PMPSDWO

(01:09:00):
on YouTube, Facebook, and Twitch.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Yeah we might be live right now.

Speaker 6 (01:09:04):
I want to provide clarity. She was recently diagnosed, maybe
a year ago.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
Okay, so I'm backtracking immediately to why didn't you have
a job for the fourteen years before you were diagnosed
with MS.

Speaker 6 (01:09:15):
She has been manipulating since I met her, but has
been more invasive after her diagnosis. She has been out
of work for fifteen years, which is the only reason
I call her lazy. She was on every government subsidy
we could get her on. I helped facilitate this when
she was diagnosed, but she keeps wanting and expecting more.
I admit I felt bad for her for a long time,

(01:09:38):
which is why I let it go on for so long.
But asking me to sell my house is beyond my limits.
She has been diagnosed with US for a year, but
has been milking it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
So it's like immediately started milking ito.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
You know, it can progress at different rates, but like regardless,
you know, not having a job for fourteen years I
think paints the perfect picture of.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Like what kind of person she is.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
Yeah, yeah, if she can float by on something, if
she can coast on something, she'll do it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
And as soon as she got this diagnosis, which is
not good, it's terrible.

Speaker 6 (01:10:09):
No, yeah, yeah, yeah, but she also saw.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
The other side of that, which is, ah, I can
weaponize this. It's my opportunity to Now I have the
ultimate get out of jail free card, which is I
have MS.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Yeah, you have to give me a ride because I
have MS. That is gross. Good.

Speaker 6 (01:10:22):
Let me know what you guys think of the comments.
Let's see the story and episode. We love you and
we'll see you tomorrow.
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