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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My father called me ungrateful after I cared for him
during a medical crisis, so I exposed his affair as
you should, as you should be fits the crime. This
whole thing happened a year prior, but the repercussions are
still happening, and I hope they continue until the day
that be tard. Oh my goodness, WHOA, this will be long,
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So buckle in now. This this is a story background.
Growing up, me and my sister had no love towards
our father whatsoever. I'm not going to bore you with
the details of a Bosaic abusive, violent man, but there
are a few details that come to mind. So, by
the way, this comes from Thunderkirk on the r slash. Okay,
storytime supparate it. So, when my sister got accepted into
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a much better but also further high school than our
local one, she moved immediately and rarely visited, so she's
no longer there. We were ten years apart and I
was four at the time. I grew up resenting her
for leaving me to deal with this BS all by myself.
But now I understand better and we're on good terms.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah. I feel like when you get older, you realize,
oh we were both in a bad situation.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah. Yeah, it's like I also like the I saw
this meme of like of a guy going off to
like college and leaving his like abauty household, and then
there's like like that he's like going off and then
he looks down and it's his little brother like like
looking up at him.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
A meme.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
A meme. Yeah, it was like a sad meme like
a comic. No, it was like it was like a
little little like TikTok video. But yeah, I know, I
think that's like it's tough to like leave like a
sibling all alone to deal with it alone. Yeah, but
now I understand better and we're on good terms. My
local factory was so big that it supported my whole town.
Virtually everyone worked there, so everyone knew each other, my
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parents too. But then it was purchased by the Defense
Ministry and decided to cut off anyone without at least
a high school degree. My mother was let go, and
this was after she'd had me four months. So basically,
like everyone in this town is losing their jobs, including
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Opie's mother. My father out made it until retirement and
was granted military status. Basically they gave it an honorable rank,
so his pension would almost double. But also you have
to act accordingly because in terms of speaking your military personnel. Now,
my childhood was an absolute nightmare. So needless to say,
I turned out to be an absolute mess, and your
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management and mental instability are notably the worst, and I'm
still working on them. Well, when I turned eighteen, i enlisted.
I feel like I'm confused by that because it's like,
you had this like very hard upbringing, seemingly maybe like
spurred by the military, or like I'm going to en
list too.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Well, I mean, it's if it's what you know, it's true,
and also you get benefits from it. Yeah, and if
you've had kind of that hard life and you don't
have that support system, a lot of people do tend
to go into the military to get that.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, military does support you, unless unless it.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Kills you until you were out of the military.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Till you're out of the military, and then it will
just push you on the streets. Two major benefits It
didn't cost money, and I could never come home if
I didn't want to. For me, it was literally a
highway out of hell. Fast forward three years later, I
got an honorable discharge. Turns out I had mental problems,
actual mental problems. Who would have known. I got a
bulk load of money and even more in the following
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months when they were able to process my military insurance.
Came home to find my town incredibly underwhelming and my
father hadn't changed a bit. And this father was no good.
I took what I could and moved to the city
where my sister was living. The last words my dear
old dad said to me was You'd never make it,
because apparently being discharged for mental illness showed that I
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was a coward.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
That sucks.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Also, I think he didn't like that I was tougher
than the boy who used to obey his every word
that I once was when I stood up for myself
more in the few weeks I've stayed with him than
the entire eight heen first years of my life. So
at least OP is now like sticking.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Up you guys like you can't push me around. I
went to the freaking military.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, I moved to a new environment, took up a
blue collar job. I was pretty beefy thanks to the military,
and decided to pursue a career in it all the
while taking care of my mental health. All right, now,
this is when it all started. So now we're getting
even into the deeper tea.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Juicy, let's dive in.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
We're wading into the tea. So sometime during this time,
he got diagnosed with cancer. I was told it wasn't dangerous,
but operations were required. My sister had actually reconciled with him,
partly because my mother a few years prior and would
occasionally bring my niece home to visit them. She was
quite successful, so he decided, so she decided to pay
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for the whole thing. Operations, treatment, hospitals, recoveries. It was
all hers. She paid for this while moving into a
new house and buying her first car. Though things are
pretty expensive in my country. My father had a huge
bank account because of his pension, but he didn't have
to pay a single penny. Yeah, I'm confused why they
didn't like let him pay if he had so much money. Yeah,
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like why why is there? Probably why are your kids paying?
But yeah, he has military insurance and he has a
huge bank account pension.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Like why is maybe she just like she felt responsible
or something.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I don't know. Yeah, maybe during this time I was
struggling with work. So after your so of recovery, all
in all, things were good, all right, So he's recovering.
During this time, I was struggling with working and studying,
living paycheck to paycheck and had to rely on a
social program to get treatment for my illness. I visited
him after every operation, though it wasn't anything tearful. If
he didn't poke me, I was fine. So apparently everything
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was fine. Maybe he learned from his cancer to not
being such a a whole.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Well sometimes sometimes people have life near death experiences, change
change people every once in a while.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Possibly, after nearly a year of staying at my sister's house,
he and my mother headed home after his doctor gave
him a go. At the time, I was looking for
a new job because current one was horrible and made
my health mental health actually worse, and I was lucky
to find one where most of my skills were transferred
and I had enough time to finish my study. One day,
my mom called in tears and asked me to come
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home that weekend. She told me that my father had
been seeing someone else while getting cancer treatment.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Dang, he's got he's got some moves.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Oh, that's Stevie with Joseph Gordon Levitt where Joseph Gordon
Levitt has cancer.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, and shaves his head.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, but he like uses it to flirt with people.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
And is it's very of that successful or like Stephen
Hawking like flirting with his nurse and successfully cheating on
his wife even though he couldn't move, like he could
like wink an eye.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Oh he could move somewhere.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, is that crazy?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I can't imagine.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, dude, but this is like.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Una reverse because usually the spouse has cancer and the
other spouse was cheating.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
You don't get to have cancer and she you can't
do that.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Faith Belling says cancer. Is that is true? But man's
got some cancer riz that feels weird, saying, I don't know.
I don't know about that. Now, I must admit I'd
not put anything behind this man. But then I thought
she was paranoid. She still is up to this day
about everything. And I was under the thought of going
home on a four hour trip both just for something
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that's utterly unimportant. So I calmed her and swept it
under the rug. Fast forward a few months, I got
another call this time for my sister. She came to
visit that week with my niece to inform them that
she was three months pregnant.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Whoa.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
What was supposed to be a happy union turned into
an absolute crap show. Apparently, when my father left his
phone unattended for a few minutes, his mistress sent him
a very spicy picture, and my mom saw it pop up.
Needless to say, all heck broke loose?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
What was he sitting back just like he's like in
the hospital ward?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, I think this might be right after Oh yeah,
I don't think. I think he's cleared now, but I
think the cheating might have begun while he was in
the hospital.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
War How how did he meet this girl?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Maybe was his nurse? Yeah she was. She was sticking
the chemo needle in him and he was sticking his needle.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
What if you're like a nurse so like.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
To have spicy sleep with your patience.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I don't know. It happened a lot in Grey's Anatomy.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
But yeah, nurses, let us know. Is that illegal? Yeah?
Needs to say, all heck broke loose. My sister said
that was the first in many years that she saw
my mother scream bloody, stabby stab my father, and when
he tried to give her the old one too, my
sister threw herself in between, which prompted her husband to
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throw himself in between because you know, she's still pregnant.
It all ended in a very teary trip back to
our city after hours of hurling insults at each other.
The only good thing that came out of it was
my mother somehow was able to bring his phone with her.
We convinced my mother to get a divorce. Okay, at
least at least that that's happening. Yeah, I mean, he
sounds like an awful man, but she's the submissive housewife
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who thought divorces were worse than boiling live puppies, and
I think back then, she's still somewhat hoping that he
turned around. They've been together for almost thirty five years
at this point, so I figured something must have been there.
She didn't want it, so we dropped it and decided
to cut him out for good, good lo and behold.
Half a year later after the incident, my father's side
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of the family started to contact me. I have a
strict no call policy where the only people allowed to
call me outside of work hours are my mother, my sister,
her husband, three of my best friends, and only recently
my boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Oh it's getting serious.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So to my bamboozlement, my father, his sister, my aunt,
his mother all called within a day. They suddenly acted
so nice, convinced me to come visit them. All right,
I'm a little suspicious. Obviously that was all a ruse.
After the incident, my father's side blamed my mother and
said she should have kept it a secret and not
made a mess for the family's sake. Maybe the father
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Opie's father shouldn't have cheated and made a mess for
the family's sake.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I hate when the person who's don't shoot the messenger,
don't sorry, don't poop you the messenger. They're just trying
to spread the word. If we unlive Paul Revere for
letting everyone know that the British were coming.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
We wouldn't have America.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
It wouldn't have America.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
America would be done.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
And that is a point that stands for this story
as well.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Agreed. Yeah, I can't believe they're getting mad. They're getting
mad to the wrong person here.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Oh I see.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
They also disavowed me and my sister because we were
ungrateful brats after we did not accept their ultimate argument,
he's your father, out.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Of course he's blad.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Out of morbid cure curiosity, I ventured back home alone
to see what it was about. Turned out they wanted
to sell his house. It was all my grandmother's land
back when he was about to undergo his first operation.
Oh my god. We didn't know how it turned out,
so we transferred the house to my name, because apparently
inheriting a dead person's estate in my country it is
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a living nightmare. Out of convenience, we convinced my grandmother
to give me the land as well, since she was
very old eighty at the time. This was back when
we were on good terms. I knew for sure they
would rather gorge their eyes out wow opia is away
with warbid words, then follow up with any of that.
If it had happened a year later, Well, I smelt
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something in the air. Couldn't place it, but I knew
it was there. So I told them nicely that I
would think on it, and immediately went back to faking
an emergency. A plan formed when I was driving back,
and that's the first time I'd been so pleased about
anything I actually cracked a smile. I'm imagining the Grinch smiling,
you know, yeah, very very excited. Do you know what
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Opie's dast really plan could be.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I'm no, I haven't a hoot. I don't see.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
That's the face that I'm imagining.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
It's the curling up.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yes, Riley got it.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
So op was at their house, was talking to them
about getting this right around and we have like kind
of inheritance thing going on.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, so Ope was given this house and I think
the family was being all nice.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
To Ope, but they knew it was a lot of
like castle.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, okay, yeah, but well, so what happened was Opie's
dad had this house on the grandmother's land. Yeah, because
they were unsure what was going to happen with Opie's
dad wasn't sure if he was going to live or die.
They gave it to op to kind of hold on to.
And now they're like coosing up to op to try
to get the house.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Is like, I have got a dastly plan.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
But yeah, so and also now op has the land too.
So Opie has the house and the land from the grandmother,
so they kind of like op owns everything. This is
back when they were on good term and they they're
trying to get the house back.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I guess interesting, Yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
They wanted to sell his house and the mother is
already correct, no one's.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
No one's, no one's everyone's alive.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Everyone's alive.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I'm just saying, to get out of some taxes. And
then she set up a trust and then put the
house into the trust so they don't have to pay
taxes on the house whenever someone dies.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Well, I think I don't think this is in the US.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, it's not in the US. But also I think
they put it in Op's name because they knew that
it would be all of this hassle and stuff if
he passed away exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah. Yeah, so they were trying to do that. But
now Op just has all of this. So I cracked
a smile and I went to my sisters immediately. My
mom had been staying with her, and I laid out
a plan. After a year living in the city, my
mom was much more open minded and only took a
few convincing for her to agree to the plan. Faith
Belling says he gives it to his mom or something.
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I honestly have no idea what the plan could be.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I haven't the foggiest.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
The foggiest idea of this plan. So my sister contacted
a lawyer and asked what our options were. Because both
the house and the land were in my name, they
had no claim to them, and any paper that didn't
have my signature on it would be considered useless under
the law. They could try and claim it was rented out,
but then they'd have to move far away and hope
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that I'd never be able to locate them, and I
knew it'd be too much trouble for a couple of
old folks. They could claim it's his life achievement. Because
he and my mother never divorced, it's technically half hers
as well. This, however, is when I came up with
an idea. I asked the lawyer what if my mother
filed for divorce. He said, it's highly unlikely the court
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would reward my mother's full claim unless we could prove
that he was unfaithful before the separation. To a surprise,
I could ops receipts.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Get me took a phone.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, remember the phone that my mother It was smashed
during the fighting, but generally still in one piece. She
asked me to throw it away. A few days later,
after my lazy a just brought it back to my
place and threw it in the loft. Sufficient to say
it provided us with more than enough proof of his indecency.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Nice being lazy pays off. Sometimes gotta be lazy to
be to win.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
To win, we got the execution now. So after weighing
our options, I called to inform my father that I
would come home the next month to make an announcement.
He was eager to hear it. Upon my arrival, they
were so nice and sweet and whatnot. But after I
introduced my lawyer, it's like they flipped a switch and
suddenly became vile and violence. I presented him with two options,
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relinquish any claim to the house or be served with
a lawsuit. In my country, marital violations are six month
probation minimum up to two years in prison.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Riley, Can you look at what country that is?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah? Yeah, look at it. Look up the country. Why
don't they never want to tell us what country is?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Tell us you think that we're going to find you
in your country?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Come on, unless you're like your country's ten people.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, maybe Vatican City. Maybe we could find you other
than that probably not.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
This is actually the pope writing.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, yeah, dude, Pope's got tea. All the confessions, the.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Pope is a queer man with tea, according to the story,
I mean probably true. I mean according to this.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I don't know if he's queer man, but he definitely
has ta. I mean he's listening. He's listening to a
lot of stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
India, Middle East, Asian cities, European cities.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Okay, man, that's too many. After a lot of screaming
and name calling and feet stomping tantrums, he kicked us out,
So naturally, I assumed he chose the ladder at the
first hearing. So the hearing of the court my mom, me,
and my lawyer were present turned out to be another
screaming contest in which he made up all kinds of
lies about my mother. At some point, my lawyer leaned
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in to tell me that if the officer didn't stop
his rantings, it's likely they were buddies and asked me
to let him handle things.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
So they're saying that the dad is ranting at the
mom and being like my and the officer. The officer
isn't doing anything, and simpler is like they're probably in cohoots.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
The officer told us this case wasn't a priority and
it would take months to process. We wouldn't like the paperwork.
It's best to settle this out of court. So yeah,
the officer that is conducting the court hearings and the
father are in cohoots with each other. My lawyer politely
declined and told my father to expect another hearing soon
under much less friendly circumstances. He tried one more tactic
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in between, which was calling all the relatives and telling
them how my mother was a bee and I was
an ungrateful brat in hope of creating some kind of
pressure on us. Very few of them took a side,
and even if all of them did, I would have
never let him get off that easy. And the second hearing,
he finally cracked and agreed to my terms, which were
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we're relinquishing any claim he might have with the house
and divorcing my mom. So those are the two stipulations. Basically,
the only person who has any claim to the house
now is my mother. I agreed to let him keep
living in it for the rest of his life, though,
but not anyone else. AKA is mistress who he was
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basically living with, so now he's.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Just kind of like a renter in this place.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Which honestly is kind of nice of op to let
that happen.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Very considerate after how he treated it.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, I feel like you could, you could like kick
him out for what he's been doing. Yeah, completely, Okay,
and now the revenge, because that wasn't revenge enough. No,
all right, Opis Opie's going in out.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
That's what the military gives you, organization.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, that it does.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, exactly, These are military tactics.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
So this was where my work started. First, my sister
gathered all the receipts from all the medical billings she
has paid for his treatment. A few of them were missing,
but we were able to put up a huge folder.
I also crap my pants learning how expensive cancer treatment
could be. Not a fan when we had a general
sum of the money we build him for it. This
is very unethical in my country, since children are expected
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to take care of their parents, but we threw that
out the window long ago. We also knew it was
not a criminal case, so we just went to small
court claims and then sent in the bailiffs to collect,
which was just this lady. She went on with a
I don't give an f attitude. When he failed to comply,
she sent in the thugs by that, I mean police
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to start seizing assets. So I guess like they're like, like,
the father can't pay all the cancer treatment even though
the sister started paying, and so the government's just seizing
their shit.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah yeah, well it seems like they're they're charging him
for all this tiff.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Yeah yeah, those sister is say goodbye to the wooden furniture,
a twenty seven I smart TV of fridge reclining massaged here.
All were bought by my sister as well. He had
to pay out of pocket because that lady insisted they
continue seizing whatever he bought until she saw the money.
Although the final amount was half to my mother under
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the eyes of the law, shared half of that for
some reason, so half of the debt, it still cost
him seventy percent of his savings. Of course, this wasn't
about the money. We were just petty.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
No. I think what happened here is that the sister
Op's sister charged was charging him for the costs. That's
what it sounds like. It doesn't sound like because it
sounds like she sued him or something, and then they
basically took all of his assets to pay for it.
That's what it sounds like to me.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
But yeah, but I guess, like what, Yeah, but the
government is seizing it on their.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Behalf, Yes, to pay for the sister.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yes, Yes, the government is seizing on behalf of a
sister because like I guess, I guess she but she
paid for all that stuff. But I guess because she
paid for it under the pretenses.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
She's basically like, yeah, she's billing him to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Can confuse what that court case would be because she
willingly paid.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, I also am confused. I don't know how she
would be able to get that money when she did young,
when she willingly played for it.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Looking back, I should have taken the recliner because my
back hurts like a bee, even though I'm only in
my late twenties. But after that was done, I contacted
my local factory to file a report. Remember the sweet
pension he got with the condition that he behaved accordingly, Well,
clearly someone had been a bad boy and they let
him go with it, even though it was a small
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town and everyone knew everything, because nobody ever filed a report.
But that's not the case anymore. I gave them a
very detailed folder with pictures from his phone to say
they were spicy. Sleep yole was an understatement.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
So there's kind of a morality clause ye. For the
the military pension.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
They immediately set up a hearing and he was of
his rank, making his pension down to just over half
the original amounts. I know this because old folks gossip
like their lives depend on it, and my mother is
not excluded. She was very happy hearing about that. It's
all she talked about for a month. I was about
to be done here, but a week later, my sister
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called to tell me that my aunt came to her
door to rate her and her children. My sister was
working from home. My mom also lived there but had
gone out for some reason. My sister just called security
to kick her out and warn me she could go
for me next. I was seeing blood, not because of
some lame booty Karen that could cause some inconvenience at most,
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but because she was screaming at my niece and nephew.
As a gay man, I know full well the blood
line ends with me. So I put all of my
love into those little guys, to the point that if
I had been there, I would have bitten her head off.
So I dug a little around and found out my
aunt was knees deep in debt. She was hoping, Yeah,
she was hoping she could lead some money off my father.
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It's not from the money he made selling the house
and then from his big bank account, since neither of
those was available anymore. She was angry and thought she
could lay it on my sister. You want to know
what a man could do with determination and raging hatred. Well,
I'd never set up an online social presence, mainly because
up to my eighteenth birthday I was too poor to
have a phone, and then the military taught me it
wasn't needed. But for a special occasion I made an exception.
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I created a Facebook account, befriended her, and didn't even
have to pretend to be anyone, since old people apparently
except friend with a question anyone. She's on this vibe
where she'd throw off her money and her vacations and
her items like a wealthy person from my mother and
her trusty gossip circle. I knew that she always told
whoever she owed money that she was struggling, so I
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figured out she must be blocking them. The next part
was easy. I just send all the selfies to everyone
she's owing to. I didn't have to declare myself since
I was literally on a throwaway account. So it's just
this really long line of messages that showed my aunt
spending her money lavishly. So the next following month she
was threatened, not with legal actions like I did, but
with much more sinister actions. She would have thugs, not
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the police, throw gifts at her door like paint, fish, sauce,
and sometimes literal craps.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Dude, this chick is gonna end up on the squid Games.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Oh my god, is Op going too far? Wow? Wow?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Because we were like, oh, that's nice that, Like, you know,
OPI let his dad live in the house even though
he treat him so badly.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
He's trying to get this person like lived.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
No, we don't stop here, we keep going.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
How I feel about this. I don't know. I think
is systematically destroying everyone who messed with him.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Yeah, because the line here is getting justice for his
mom getting cheated on. But now he's getting all the
justice that is available to him. If that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, I think it's a little bit too much. I
think it's a little bit too much. But I would
love to know what you guys think. Yeah, but your
answers in the chat.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
But just ins far as people, he's Yeah, Karina Krena
says he's going too far. He's putting her in danger.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah, she finally figured out what I was going to
do when I told her to find me a list
of all the people she's going to. Oh my god,
And now there's the pro revenge.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
That wasn't the pro revenge. I hope that I never
get on Op's bad side.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Oh my god. As much as I want to take
credit for this, the idea wasn't mine. Forgive me, for
I once again had to lay out a bigger background.
So my father's side of the family is this very
traditional family where you would have a person acting as
the head of the family, deciding things that matter. This
was way before the war, so obviously they don't do
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such things anymore, I imagine the Vietnam War. But the
head of the family still has a certain voice. And
there's this once in a year ceremony where we gather
together to pay tribute to our ancestors. During the ceremony.
The head of the family will give a speech and
then some announcements like who died, who got married, who
gave birth, etc. Then there will be a celebratory party
where we basically get wasted. My great grandfather was ahead.
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He had three sons and two of them passed away
during the war, so my grandfather took the mantle, then
my father and eventually me. The whole side of the
family is another town that's like three hours away, mainly
because my grandfather didn't expect to be the head, so
he moved out seeking opportunities. I found these gatherings redundant
and unnecessary, but that year was actually looking forward to it,
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probably for the revenge. My father tried to keep the
actual date hidden. It wasn't fixed, but generally somewhere between June.
But he seriously underestimated my mother. She doesn't have a
gossip circle, she has an infinite number of them. So
my mother, me and my sister's family all head back
for it. The trip is fourteen hours in total, but
the result was so worth it we timed it so
it'd come two days earlier than my father. Again thanks
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to her gossip circle. I guess getting all the information.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
She's like, she's got like a hole.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
She has the little buds throughout the city.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
She's like a rat king she's collecting.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, this side of the family had never heard the
full story, only the version my father gave them, which
was that he had left my mother in good faith.
I actually gave my father some credits for not bowd
mouthing my mom. After weighing all the pros and cons,
we decided to let my mother a loose and she's
exceptional when it came to relaying details about her personal tragedies.
I kid you not. If I posted her story word
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for word, by the time next week, there would be
a global justice for thunder Kirk's Mother movement. It took
just one day for everyone to know what an a
hole my father had been. The look on his face
when he arrived with my aunt my grandmother and saw
my family already there was priceless. He got the stink
guy from everyone. For the rest of the day, nobody
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would initiate conversations with him. So he's just sitting there
like a sad dog. Now. I know what they say
about passing it passed away horses. But the idea was
brilliant not to follow through.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I don't think op ever, wastes an opportunity to be
get revenge, to beat a passed away horse.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Oh my god, my uncle, let's call him Oliver, came
up with this. And the hierarchy is equal to my father.
And the event that my branch doesn't have a male
successor one hundred percent, what's going to happen. His branch
will be the head of the family. He told me
I should take up the mantle of the head. It
was very sudden. I didn't have a speech ready. My
father was supposed to do that, but Oliver told me
I could just tell whatever I want because nobody really
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paid attention to that thing anyway. All the other elders
were okay with it. The speech wasn't even the best thing.
At the celebratory party, people will be assigned tables based
on the family tree. Heads of each branch will sit together,
their children sit together, the elders sit together, so on
and so forth. This sounds very like royal like. This
sounds intense like the familial dynamic. Because I was elevated
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to the head of my branch, I would be sitting
at the big boy table. My father didn't even get
to sit at that supposed table because miraculously it was full,
even though I could have sworn there weren't twenty of
us and each table can sit up to ten. He
had to sit at a regular table with my aunt
and a bunch of nasty widows who didn't hold back
their snarky comments. So I was told, I didn't think
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he'll ever come back to one of those anytime soon.
I I'm kind of so OPI was kind of promoted
in the family.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I do think it's funny, though, that that was the
pro revenge, because that does seem more tame than all
of the other revenge.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah, dude, the other revenge was like catfishing everything.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
So like the normal revenge, I catfished my aunt and
people might un alive for now. And like the you know,
pretty good revenge was getting the law to take all
of my dad's assets from him. But the pro revenge
was making my father sit at a different table.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, I don't think that should reorganize it. Yeah, I
think we should reorganize that.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
But well, it might be a cultural thing.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I think it might be. That's true, babe, really important.
Maybe he's getting threatened by the mafia. Is not as
bad is getting devoted in your familial dynamic.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Yeah, because in the Southern Baptist church, if you don't
sit where you usually sit, people get irritated. They're like, oh,
that's like my seat, but they don't say anything, and
they kind of be past progressive.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
But we still got a little bit more to the story.
Let's run it the aftermath. My father is now just
a miserable old man. His mistress left him because surprisingly
she was after his money. He's living in our old
house with next to nothing. His retirement money, though halved,
was good enough for him to live by. And last
I heard, his cancer has come back, and obviously this
time my sister won't be paying for it anymore. He
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had tried to initiate contact with my mother, trying to
make amends. We had to block his number and his
profile on my mother's account because she actually considered it.
She has her soft side my aunt, which OPI definitely
does not have. My aunt has to sell her house
to pay all the debt or else they just continue
harassing her. She now lives in a small house she
bought off with the rest of her money. I felt
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bad for her. Husband because she's because he's actually chill
and quite nice, but he's not the most decisive, and
therefore he doesn't really confront her. I hope he's doing better.
I have no empathy for her only son, though. Damn.
Let's just say the apple doesn't far fall from the tree.
So how do I know all this my mother's gossip circle?
Of course, I love my grandmother out of this because
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she's very old. She's not demented in any way. She's
perfectly sane, but she loved her son too much to
admit he's in the wrong. Also, she was very nice
and sweet to me growing up. A lot of my
good memories are with her. I'm sad because he doesn't
see my mother the same. I also stopped talking to
her and would only visit once during Lunar New Year.
She's lived in the small house she and my grandfather
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built on the land that's now in my name. When
she and my father are passed away, I will carry
out their wish to build an altar for her and
my grandfather. Whether or not my father will be included
is still up for debate. Just to clarify, all this
wouldn't have happened if he acted in good faith. He
could have called all of us back and now said
he'd be leaving my mother, and I wouldn't have given
a dang. Instead, he tried to scream and punch his
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way through it, and I acted in response. Also, I
deleted that Facebook count. I'm crazy, but not that crazy.
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(32:18):
you get your podcasts. There's another relevant update. But dang
op is getting getting their revenge.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yeah, and I'm not surprised to see that eighty four
percent of Chat did not think that was too far.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, of course, of course, yeah, Chat, that's like, oh,
they only got death threats, Like that's not enough, not enough,
that's not enough, man.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I mean, like to be clear, obviously, the people that
received this you know, revenge or of this vengeance, they
weren't great, they weren't good people. They were bad people.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
But yeah, it was a lot, Yeah, it was a
lot that Cassana says, I'm Vietnamese of origin but never
lived there. Than goodness, all the bs they have to
deal with is toxic. Af I am not Vietnamese either,
but I did, I know, I know, surprising Sophia. But
I did go on a solo travel through Vietnam and
I met this girl in a coffee shop that I
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hung out with for a little bit while I was there,
and she wanted to leave her town and like explore,
but she felt like she had to live with her
mother and take care of her and so like there's
just like an intense duty to family there. Fly, Yeah,
which I can understand why, like in the context of
all that, why getting demoted might be pro revenge just
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rather than just revenge.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Like getting excommunicated from the.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Church exactly exactly. But we got a little bit more
of this story. So also about the small court claim.
As I've mentioned, these kinds of claims are highly unethical
in my country. So the law is also very slippery.
You just have to prove that someone owes you money
or for something. It doesn't have to be big. I
made it sound easy, but in reality we had to
go through three different hearings. The judge invitis to settle
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out of court the two. Since my father wasn't present,
the whole thing took almost a year before a claim
was rewarded. My sister gave birth to my nephew around
this time. In short, we found a loophole and utilized it. Also, yes,
I'm Vietnamese, whoo in fidelity is definitely a crime here.
In fact, it's the first time I've heard it's not
a crime somewhere else, So thank you read it for
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the newfound knowledge. Also, clearly this wasn't a spur of
moment thing. I had thought about it, like what we
should do if things got messy, but nothing concrete Because
my mother's reproval everything. We didn't wake up and decide
to scorch the earth.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
We planned, We planned, We planned and plotted to scorch
the earth.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Oh man, wow, that was intense. Op OPI went, Opie
went ham Yeah, Opie went Scorchedtrey. Yeah for sure. Shout
out OPI forgiving us a good story.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Good story to start the stream of Yeah, man, man,
we got another story in this episode.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
My father demanded I pay for the house he bought
for his stepdaughter, so I went on off on him.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
If it's not your house. You don't have to pay.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
So a few years ago, I posted about how my
father cheated on my mother coming out the gate strong
A little little cheating always hurt somebody, and how I
retaliated to him financially and socially. Wait wait, what is
this is? This is this? Is this from the same person? Mmm? No,
this is from the same person.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
It's from the same person.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
This is an update. This is an update. What this
is an update? So that last from a few years ago.
This is an update.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
It's about the house.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
A few years ago I posted about how my father
cheated on my mother and how I retaliated against him
financially and socially. Again, this is related to that last story.
This is an update from the last story. This will
serve as somewhat of an update, as there have been
developments ever since for those who want to go back
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and read the post. I have some good news. But
five months after I posted the story, my cousin reached out.
He had been fired from his job, but he had
met a wonderful girl and that really changed his perspective.
By the way, this comes from thunder Kirk on the
ar Slash Okay Storytime Subreddit. So growing up, he was
an only child and his parents were rich enough he
didn't need to care about school. While I and my
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sister thrived academically, he made no effort to even try
to graduate from high school, as being a legacy meant
that he would always have a place in the local plants,
the one that's big enough to support the entire town.
That was until he found out how his family was
struggling financially. His mom had spent all their savings to
keep an unnecessary lavish lifestyle, and the local plant, after
three decades, decided to stop hiring people without a degree
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or a trade certific legacy or not. My cousin was
working as a bus operator at the time, but got
let go and couldn't find a job. And that's when
this girl changed his life.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
So this is the cousin that OPI said he didn't like.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yeah, this is a cousin that was like, oh, like,
there doesn't fall far from the tree. Got you well,
She pointed out how helpless he was being a golden child,
not having to do anything growing up up, and he
listened to her. He reached out, trying to make amends,
and I and my sister accepted it. He went back
to community college, got a degree, and started working at
the plant late August. That's one relationship saved at his wedding.
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My aunt also wanted to make amends. She had a
falling out with my father and perhaps her son had
talked some senses into her, so she reached out and
wanted to talk. Now, we're much more reserved about this
one because knew her antics so well, but she was
quite genuine and understanding when we said we couldn't let
her back into the grace as easily as her son
and the good graces. We went low contact for a while.
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She's made efforts to be friendly to my niece and
nephew and never showed signs of any malicious intent. So
it seems like two for two. Relationships kind of getting better.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Op he's winning the revenge, turned around and bloomed flowers.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
We're still keeping a short leash, but I want to
believe that people can change, and so far she's not
given me any reason to think otherwise. That's two for two.
The third is my grandmother. She's eighty five this April.
Among and among the grandchildren, I am closest to her.
So it pained me to have to go low contact
with her since our last interaction. She had also had
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a falling out with my father because he was trying
to get her to sign over her estates. Maybe a
story for another time, but she was having none of it,
so they fought. In the end, he went a wall.
They did not see each other for over a year
until he showed up at my cousin's wedding. At said wedding,
my father made an effort of avoiding me and my sister,
but approaching my brother in law to brag that he
bought a house and that he has his mistress living
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in it. We did not think much of it because
his pension is hefty to those who read my previous post,
even though it went down forty percent, it's still almost
as double that of my aunt, so he can pretty
much afford like anything. But then after we're on talking terms,
my aunt let it slip that he had to take
a loan to pay for that. So maybe not as
much as he thought because he is going to the
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debt or alone debt get getting get.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
In the house, but he was originally living in oh pease.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Or like yeah, but that was too small you want
to want something big well.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
But also I don't think he's allowed to live in
with his mistress there.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
No either, no, So that's why I guess he had
to get a new new place. But his name is
not on the deed. It's the oldest son of the
mistresses instead, so he's kind of using the mistress's son
to get the loan. At this point, we figured that
he's being scammed, but yeah, not our problem. Because of
a series of incidents at my job, I was offered
a much more secure and high paying position. I will
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admit that this is truly an opportunity I thought I'd
never have for at least another three years, but perhaps
one can only have so many tragedies. With the raised salary,
my mom's money from divorce in my sister's help, I
was able to put a down payment for a house
for me and my mother, even though the housing market
in my city was as crazy as ever. Even though
I'm now eyeballs deep in debt, I'm proud of myself
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for having a house to my name. My father didn't
contribute anything, and frankly, I didn't want to take anything,
even if he had asked. Around late November of last year,
my childhood friend with whom my cousin and I are
very close, passed away from a car accident. It was
very sudden. My cousin called me at two in the night,
and before I knew it, I was home for his funeral.
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Leadless to say, I was in a bad place mentally
leading up and following his funeral, so I decided to
move back home until after Lunar New Year, which is
two weeks away, take care of my grandmother, but I
was also hoping the change of scenery would do me
some good. My mother stayed to look after the kids.
My sister's house is literally within walking distance from mine,
so she'll be fine. And seven days after said funeral,
my father shows up at my doorstep. I was very
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much still grieving, so I was in no mood to
play games. I shut down any effort at pleasantries and
just stared at him while he mumbles about traveling or
some crap. Then he told me that his mistress's second child,
a girl, is attending college in my city next summer,
and suggested we meet and be friends. I just laughed
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and told him to have off. That's when he brought
up the house. Apparently, the precious little stepdaughter doesn't want
to stay in a college housing campus, nor does she
want to share an apartment with friends or other renters.
She wants a whole house for herself. That's crazy in
the middle of the worst housing economy in our country's history.
Of course, having taken a loan for the house he
bought for his stepson, he could never afford buying a
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house in the capital city, where prices go up by
the hour. An attempt to please his mistress, he came
to me asking for money. I kid you not. This
man literally dropped my sister off in a foreign city
and told her to fend for herself when she went
to go to college for the first time. And now
he wanted to bend over backwards for a child that
isn't even his well, asking for money from his son,
who he loudly claimed that he'd rather see passed away.
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I truly can't comprehend the gears in his gee heead
what little did he know? He poked me at the
worst moment possible. Oh you don't want to poke opop
will go?
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
I was still grieving from a lost friend, and I
ripped him a new one detailing things. I didn't even
know where it came from. I was mentally checked out
when my mouth did the work, and towards the end
I cracked my voice a little. He tried to argue
a bit, but after my aunt and cousin showed up
they lived nearby, he bolted last month. I haven't heard
from him since now that I care. Anyway, work is
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busy and I have Lunar New Year to prepare for.
By the way, you can prepare for listening to us
every single second of every day by just going to
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Apple podcasts. You can listen while doing other stuff. True, dad,
But there's a little relevant update that I'm just gonna
drive right into.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Oh. I was just gonna say really quick, kind of
shocking that the dad was like, I know my son
has crippled me, or tried to cripple me financially, cast
me out of the family. But I'm gonna go ask
him for money. That don't work.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
You sometimes every shot you don't take is a shot missed.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Oh yeah, well, oh he's not missing any shots.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Oh he's not missing any shots. Neitherre's the dad that
the dad's taken every shot. He's missing a lot, but
he's taking every shot.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Oh, he's hitting all the shots. The dad is missing,
maybe every single one.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
I'll admit that encounter didn't do me any good. It stings,
to be honest, having your father prioritiz a child that's
not even his over his son and daughter. I've had
sleepless nights over it, trying to think of a good reason.
Maybe something we did, or something in his life that
was so unsatisfying that he had to seek it elsewhere
and not within his own family. I've come to accept that.
Even though I always say I'm over it, deep down,
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I'm still hoping for Rian, hoping that one day he
will come to his sentences and try to make amends.
It's a long shot, but I hope for such a day.
I'm not letting my guard down for one second. If
anything happens, I'm more vindictive than ever.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Scared, but I have hopes. I'm frightened. I'm frightened for
the day God more happens because Opi, Oh my god,
Oh Pi scares me. Opie scares me.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Opie is a little little little Cray Cray, a little
little Cray Cray.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
But but if you had OPI on your side.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
I mean, there's nothing that OPI wouldn't do for you,
you know. Here, question question for chat question. I kind
of have a policy of like if someone is super vindictive,
I kind of like am a little scared to be
friends with them because and that was actually one of
the reasons that the last person I was like seeing,
like I'm like, oh, I don't know if like I
want to keep seeing them was because they were super vindictive.
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Hella loyal and like super hard working, great in a
lot of ways, but like, like I feel like when
you're too vindictive, I'm just worried that's going to be
be thrust upon me at some point, you know.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Yeah, Well it's like when you talk to people and
they're like, oh, I've dropped all of my friends and
like or or they are always talking about this person
that they hate and they're really trying to you know,
it's just like it's.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
All Yeah, I feel like I feel like vindictiveness is
one of like I think it's like a not that
great of equality because you never know when that that
will flip around to you. Yeah, well and it will,
it will flip around to you because no one's perfect.
You probably, you know, make someone unhappy at some point,
and if they're vindictive, like they're going, you know that
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that power will be put to you. So yeah, I'm
a little wary of it. But I'm curious what you
guys think. Is vindictiveness a good quality or not? Yes,
Kaitl Van Campus says it's a character trait. It'll come
back to you no matter how good of friends you are.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah, it says it's valid to be concerned over that trait. However,
if you own up your own mistakes, then you should
be fine. I yes, but I do think with some
people they aren't forget, like they hold grudges. So even
if you do own up to your mistake, they're not
going to forgive you. Like there's no like three strikes.
It's just like one thing and you're like, oh go on.
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Pinky Disslayer says, most people who have wronged me, no,
don't speak to me. I don't necessarily think I'm vindictive,
but I am very petty. And Nicole Lynn says, if
they are constantly vindicted forward to me, then one person,
yeah run. But if they speak vindictively about just one person,
and only one person. They may be a nice person
who's finally pushed too far.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
That is true. That is true.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
It's just seeing they behave, just watching that behavior. Of course,