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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Cowboy Sam and this is ee how John. Hey.
We've lastowed in some amazing stories for y'all the Okay
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
To wrangle a quick little to minute ad break from
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us the bucks to help this show stay alive. My
father cut me out of the inheritance, cut me back in,
put me in, Duddy. Well, my dad is a business
that me and my brother worked for. My dad wants
to leave the family business entirely to my older brother.
He says that makes the most sense because my older

(00:31):
brother is his oldest child and has been in the
business the longest. He has a business degree and knows
much more about the business side of his work because
there's some other side that's not business related.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Business business business.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
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Speaker 1 (00:55):
So.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
While I do the physical aspect of the job very well,
I was a bit in poled also when I was younger,
so he doesn't think it would be a good idea
for me to be charged. To be honest, I don't
think it would be either. But considering how much I
contribute to this business and that I am his son too,
I think I should at least get some of the
say in the future of the business and a stake

(01:15):
in the company.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
I mean, I think, yeah, yes, in part, but also
I think that you need to kind of prove that.
And if you are trying to prove that and he's
not even letting you, like he's not acknowledging that, then
that's another thing.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Indeed.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
But I feel like if you're just like I deserve
it because I want it, so that's nepotism.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Indeed.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
I feel like at this early in the story, it's like, Okay,
could could potential way either way. The one thing I
will say is the you don't have to give him
the control of the well I.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Guess he said he's done a lot of the physical
work for the late yeah. Yeah, and he has done
a lot of work for the company.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, Because like inheritance is like, oh, I'm giving my
children just part of it that's generally not even associated
with like oh they worked on.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
It way exactly.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
So the steak in the company.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, so something something there, not even half, but some
some steak in the company. Right in the end, my
father said no, but that I would get some money
after he passed away. The whole thing really pissed me off,
and I was starting to get bitter continuing to work
there and be around them. So I gave two weeks notice.
I've been trying to keep a neutral demeanor the whole time.

(02:23):
This is my last week. And Jared, the guy that
presents our biggest client, was asking if I could take
care of this other project next week. So I told
him I would pass that along to my brother, that
I'm not going to be working here next week.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Oh I'm not gonna be here.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Which, honestly, yeah, if you're not getting paid the way
that you want to be, Yeah, like if your dad's
not appreciating the work that you do and you've asked
for your raise or not your raise, but you've asked,
you know, you've made your requests and stuff, and he's like, no,
don't stay there.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, being in family business can be tough.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
It's tough.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah, not everyone is the donners.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
It's so true. Tell you, not anyone can flowish work
with their brother.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Jared and I talk a lot and are pretty friendly
with each other because I'm the one who mostly works
this job. Who've actually hung out outside of work a
few times. So he asked me why I was leaving.
I just said for personal reasons. He asked where I
was going to be working, and I told him I
wasn't sure yet because there's not a lot of business
that need employees with my skills. Anyway, today, while I'm working,

(03:25):
Jared's boss comes down and asks if I will consider
working for them.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Whoa little poaching going on?

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, coaching action.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
He said he's been thinking for a while of doing
all this work in house, but has been having trouble
finding someone experienced since.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
It's such a specialized field.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
He said, He's always been very happy with my work
and that's why they always request me. He offered me
a three year contract, and the salary is so much
more than I ever would have made at my dad's company.
Plus it comes with benefits and an office.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Heck, yeah, perfect. I mean you get benefits and an office.
Come on, and somebody who appreciates what you can offer,
because your dad clearly does not this.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
He just listed all things that were all significantly better.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Not sure what I'll do with an office with that,
saymes pretty gold.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
I don't know what I'm going to do an office. Shock.
I could do anything with office, and the pus ability's
a limitless.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
With a whole box, I can sit and.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Waken I I don't know. I could play in an office.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
I could shuffle papers in an office.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Who's to say I could do a lot in an office.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
I also get to pick out the equipment, and I
can hire two employees.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
To work under me.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
It just keep getting better. Overall, It's an amazing deal.
But I know that losing this client will hit my
family's business hard because remember this means that the client
would no longer be working with his family's business with
OP coming over. At the same time, It's not like
I was asking for it or trying to steal their client.
He was the one that came to me and wanted me.

(05:01):
I thought about maybe using this as a bargaining ship
with my dad to gets some say and stake in
the company, but honestly, I don't want to get it
that way, and I just don't want to work with
either of them anymore. Yeah, I mean, we have a
quick edit coming up. But yeah, it seems like he's like, hey, look,
you guys are not showing me the respect, and this
new company instantaneously is giving him like way more respective benefits.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Salar and everything.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, because at the beginning, I was like, oh, well,
if it's just him asking for it, and he's actually
he's not able to like, you know, meet the needs
for the roles that he wants to be a part of,
that's different. But he is seemingly yeah, he's just not
being given that chance, and so he's going to somewhere
where they're going to give him that chance.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
And again the like, if you don't want to give
your kids.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Inheritance, that's fine, But to give one kid like pretty
much all the inheritance or like the vast majority of
the inheritance and not give it to the other is
kind of like.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (05:56):
You could you could you could give him the monetary
amount and have him not have say in the company.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
That's that's what Yeah, like you could have a steak
in the company. He's doing a lot of work.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, come on, now there's an edit.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I really regret putting the whole bargaining chip in this post,
people seem to keep focusing on me doing that when
I say right afterwards that I don't want to do
that and don't even want to work with them anymore.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
It was just a fleeting thought. Guys, It's okay, we
can have a fleeting thought.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
I can fleet, we can can flip, we can fleet.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Had at number two.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Seriously, guys, not actually planning on bargaining or negotiating with
my dad or my brother. And the verdict was not
the a hole. We have some relevant comments, but very
quick do we agree?

Speaker 3 (06:35):
So you yeah, I mean in the same way. I
mean not exactly in the same way, but like somewhat
in the same way that your dad said no to
giving you a stake in the company or you know,
a say in the business, because that was just business.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
So is this Yes, it's like, hey, you didn't want
to give me something, that's okay.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, them, these guys over here, they offered it.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
They wanted me more than you.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
What am I supposed to do?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Not get anything from you and then not get anything
from them, but peace out me if you if you
want me so bad, then give me the things they're
offering me.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Beg for me, beg for me.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Oh, we got some relevant coments going on. So propa
to number one says, not the a whole. It's not personal,
it's just business. If he's been thinking about looking for
someone specialized in that field, he could have left from
your dad's firm at any moment once said person would
have shown up. Will it be awkward or your family
be upset? Maybe, But you gave your notice and they
haven't attempted to retain you. You would be the A

(07:35):
hole if you tried to leverage this. But as is,
you gave your notice. The client was looking for someone
to employ. Anyone who has ever employed anyone or had
clients knows that people leave or make choices that you
may disagree with.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Prompa to number two says, just want to second this,
but op, please don't use this as leverage or anything
like that. Op, don't worry, it was just a fleeting thought.
Or don't want to work with either of them anymore,
how much? Or number three says, not the a hole.
Your dad was being completely unfair. You now have an
awesome opportunity. Go for it.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I would, however, check any employment contracts you have and
make sure you're doing it by the book.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
For example, my old contract said I couldn't work in
a competitor business until six months after I left my
old place. Opie says, I'm pretty sure mine didn't have
any competitor clause. It was it was really short, like
two paragraphs long. I'll check again later though, when I
get back to.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
My office really quick.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Would Ope be the a hole if he came back
to his dad and was like, Hey, they offered me this.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Do you want to cash out to beat that?

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Everyone was saying, don't use this as leverage. Don't I
feel like you could. I don't know, Like I was like,
I feel like you could, Like what is so? I
feel like a lot of people do that all the time. No, Yes,
they're like, hey, I'm getting paid, I can get paid
way more. Yeah, if you want to keep me, you
have to pay more.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah. I think it's perfectly fine.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
I think I was also wondering about that. I was like, oh,
is that.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
It sounds like like people with groves or lammed. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
I'm like, what what is you wrong about that?

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Like, like I mean, I guess like tone matters of
like if he goes he's like, hey, look I got
this other offer, Like, here's everything they offered me, Like,
are you guys able to match that? So I could, like,
you know, because it kind of low key wouldn't make
sense to continue working here when I have all of
these things in this other offer, yeah, versus like, all right,
now I've got all this, Now you need to you know,

(09:30):
three axis or whatever, like Okay. If he's saying that,
then yeah, okay, that's like giving some a whole vibes.
But if he's just like, hey, can you match this
or beat it? Like yeah, yeah, sure sure. Competent number
four info, do you know how much money they pay
your dad's company for the work. The new company may
be taking advantage of you and your family by hiring
you and quitting business with your dad. I guess that

(09:52):
makes sense if it's like, oh, we pay them, you know,
one hundred and fifty k a year and we're giving
you one hundred k or whatever.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
But like also again, like if.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
They can get what they need for hiring him for
like that salary, then it kind of is what it is.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
I don't no one else will say.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, Opie says, they definitely pay my dad's company a
lot more to do the work, which would make like
a whole company's own company makes sense, But the salary
they're offering me is more than what the high end
of someone in my position normally makes. I wouldn't expect
to make as much as a subcontractor would since I'm
not the one paying for all the expenses and equipment.
Commentar number five says, not the a whole. Obviously, Jared

(10:32):
and his company respect slash value your work more than
your brother and father. Yeah, I can't believe your brother
didn't even try to fight for you to get some
kind of stake in the company. I would be pissed,
Like everyone else said, you're just another employee.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Screw that, screw that.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Flip side. If you take this job, be prepared for
your father to take you off his will and you
make it nothing. Yeah, that is true, because he did
say you'll get some money. The one thing we didn't
specify how much, and like, for example, if he just
gave op the dollar equivalent of what the stake in
the company is, that that's okay. Yeah, I think sure,

(11:10):
you know, if it's like a company control or saying,
you know, like oh I want him to be decision
making or whatever since he's been making decisions.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, or it could be at least better, at least
my better.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, I I guess you just have to like decide
do you want this job and the opportunities it will
provide you more than you want that money that you'll
get like much further down the line.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Are you okay with losing that? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Are you okay with losing It's a good question to
ask yourself here. If you take this job, you prepared
for your father to take you off as.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Will, and you make it.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Nothing seems like a good possibility of this happening from
the way it sounds. Don't let that stop you from
taking a great job opportunity. I would take the job offer.
I wouldn't start for a couple of weeks after you left, though,
then tell your father and brother about a week before
you started. I would also ask Jared and his company
if they think after three years they're going to renew
contracts and keep the position, and basically find out how

(12:02):
secure the job is in the future with the new company.
Keep us updated. I'm very curious on how this plays
out and pays out.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
I added that I.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Just added that smart by the way you putting in
your two weeks notice and they didn't even try to
retain you, says something. A. They think you'll come crawling
back and they're your only choice. B they don't care
or see. Maybe they think you were trying to use
your two weeks as a bargaining ship to get a stake,
and they showed that they weren't budging on the decision,

(12:33):
to which Ope responds when I put in my two
weeks notice, they did offer me a small salary bump,
but that honestly felt more like an insult. Yeah, I'm
going to give you a whopping point one percent raise.
What do you say, pal, Did.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
You like that? No, I can give you a cent
every every year you get one more cent.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
You know what, I'm going to increase that. I'm going
to double that offer two cents.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Two cents EveryWare, you're gonna get two more cents. How
does that sound deal?

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Johnson?

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Johnson?

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Is that good work? Johnson? Not good work?

Speaker 3 (13:08):
No?

Speaker 2 (13:08):
How much A number six says info. I'm guessing the
guy has the choice of hiring you or your dad's company,
in which case, of course, he came to you. He's
saving money buying your work directly make sure you're actually
getting paid what you're worth. They're definitely paying you less
than they paid your dad. That's why they're hiring you directly.
Do you know how much your dad was charging them?
Hopefully it's reasonably close to.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
What you're getting.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
And Opie says the pay is significantly less than what
my dad charges. But considering I'm not going to be
paying for any of the business expenses or equipment like
my dad, like my dad does, the pay is very generous.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah. Again, like I feel like it could be.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
It's like, Okay, maybe it's not as much as the
dad would make, but if Opie's still getting better than
the high end of his salary and all these things, Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Mean it's like law, it's long in the long term,
better for your career, I think, Yeah, go to go
with the somewhe.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Where they appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah, Like, why would you want all that money if
you're just having people who like don't think that you're
capable exactly.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, That's the other thing is like do you just
want to keep working and being like, okay, brothers getting everything,
I'm getting nothing. I'm not appreciated, and over here they're like, dude,
you're freaking awesome. Yeah, what what else can we do
for you?

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Exactly?

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Go for the vibes, Go for the vibes. But we
have got an update a little more than one month later.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Okay, so Opie should be working at this other company.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Now, let's see. So it's been a while since my
first post and things have been settled. Oh. I felt
like a good amount of you said it was okay
to take the job.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
There were a few that said that I should give
my dad and brother a heads up that this was
all happening before accept at a job, so as not
to blindside them. Quick poll, Yes, heads up or not?
Do we give the dad and brother heads up or not?

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Quick take Sophia mmmmmm mmmmm. She's thinking I don't know.
She's thinking, I think I'll find out eventually.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, even I don't know if they quote unquote.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Deserve it, Yeah, but I do.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
If your relationship, like family wise, is the outside of that,
I think it's good.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
I yes, I would say if you have a good
relationship with them outside, yeah sure.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
But if they just freaking suck all around, yeah, then no,
you know, yeah no, maybe maybe not, maybe not. So
that's what I did. The day after I made my
original post. The talk itself didn't go so smoothly, though.
They got pretty angry. My dad said this was a
reason why it would have been bad to give me
part of the business, because I'm selfish and only think

(15:47):
of myself when he's trying to keep over a dozen
people employed.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Well, perfect, you don't have me anymore. You don't have
to worry about me.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yep, there you go.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
I'm working somewhere else now, good yep.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
And you're not selfish for giving it all to the brother.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, anything interesting I ever heard of?

Speaker 1 (16:03):
A mirror?

Speaker 2 (16:03):
My brother said, I was basically betraying the family because
I didn't get something that I didn't really deserve from
the ouch. I didn't exactly want to stay around them
anymore after that, so I just walked out early that
day and decided not to finish the rest of the
week that I was going to. Later, I called to
formally accept the job. The equipment we ordered only came
in last week, so I was basically just been paid

(16:25):
to stay at home and do nothing for the first
few weeks. Nice paid time off.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
For a few weeks.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
They already appreciate you more.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
They already do that. Yeah, yeah, man, look at that.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
It was actually nice to have a break from everything
before diving into work again. It's been pretty great at
a new place, though. My new workspace is a lot different,
nicer from my dad's shop. It's wide and open, it
has air conditioning, assigned parking so when we're fighting for
a spot.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
On the street.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
The office they gave me isn't huge, but it's also nice.
Like I said in my previous post, I don't have
much use for an office, but it's still a nice
to have a private place to my especially one with
a mini fridge. Heck, you you can stock it with
all your favorite snacks.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Snack.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Overall, I definitely feel much more appreciated here than I
ever felt working for my dad. By the way, if
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(17:30):
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Speaker 2 (17:42):
That's right, Opie says, speaking of which I haven't talked
to my dad or brother since and I don't think
I will. WHOA going no contact, which leads me to
my next pole, no contact or not.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
I mean, if they're gonna treat you like this, not great.
I think it could be like limit contact and if
they continue to be like you're destroying the family, and
it's like okay, bye.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
I had heard from Jared that right after I had
left after talking to them about the job, they had
called my new boss and tried to tear him from
hiring me.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Ooh see, yeah, at that point, I'd be like, I
don't want to contact people that are actively trying to
get like not sabotage my job opportunities.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Let me get the bag dad.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Bye, come on, I'm not contacting.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
I also heard from a cousin that my dad's business
isn't doing so well right now and they had to
let some people go and are downsizing. Some of the
other clients had shut down their business due to COVID,
so that combined with losing another big client permanently hit
them hard.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
So maybe you left a good time right.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Also, if they had appreciated Op, none of at least
the peace stuff wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Have happened exactly exactly. You could have sucks to suck.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
I have to imagine they would have come out money ahead,
giving Op everything he wanted and keeping the clients.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
I absolutely agree.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
I have to imagine.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
I absolutely agree.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
But I'm also not imagining. Some relevant comments from comment
are number one, congrats on the new job. It's bad
business to rely so heavily on a single client vendor
slash product.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
That is your dad and brother's fault. Calling your new.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Boss to bad mouth you reflects very poorly on them.
I doubt Jared is going to recommend them to anyone
who needs the service they offer. After that, another good point,
So yeah, like, yeah, they're just they just keep digging
their own grades.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Are Yeah, they're making it worse for themselves.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
My goodness. Enjoy your new office with a mini fridge,
me jeous who Opie says oll.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
The mini fridge is honestly one of my favorite things
about the new place. Commuch To number two says, in
the original post, you said you'd be able to hire
a couple of people to work under you, any chance
you can hire two people that were laid off from
the family business. Opie says, I actually already hire people
before I found about the layoffs. Okay, too late timing
day it happens, it happens, two hundred and of three

(20:06):
says my dad said. This was a reason why it
would have been bad to give me part of the business,
because I'm selfish and only think about myself when he's
trying to keep over a dozen people employed. My brother said,
I was basically betraying the family because I didn't get
something that I didn't really deserve from them. They're mixing
up cause and effect. Business partners are responsible for looking
out for the well being of the business. Employees are

(20:28):
responsible for doing a job in return for money. Your
father and brother made a decision that you're an employee instead.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Of a business partner.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
That is so true, so true, and now they're mad
at you for acting like an employee instead of a
business partner. If they actually wanted you to act in
the best interest of the business instead of seeking the
highest pay and best working conditions for the job you
are paid to do, then they should have cut you
in as a part owner. So that way, it would
actually be one of your responsibilities. That is a main point.

(21:00):
It's if you're being treated like an employee. It's like, well,
let me.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Make yea Why does it matter if I leave? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, Why does it matter.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
If your business is declining?

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:11):
An employee would be like, hey, let me go where
I'm most appreciated and get the best salary in all
those things for myself.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Maybe if I had a say in the business, I
could have helped you, but I didn't.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Sorry, come on, come on, how much?

Speaker 2 (21:24):
A number four says It's unfortunate that your dad and
brother didn't consider the potential consequences of their decision. I'm
sorry they have chosen to make this all your fault,
blaming you for looking after yourself and your own future.
I wish you the best of luck in the new
job and hope that your family will eventually be able
to mend things. And that is if for the story.
What the poll said was ninety five percent no contact. Yep,

(21:48):
I agree, I agree.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
I think that at this point they have tried to
get you fired from your new job. They have told
you that you broke the family apart. I mean, until
they are to apologize and recognize that you did nothing
wrong and they didn't appreciate you, and you found a
new job that they don't. There's no point in like
trying to have a conversation with them, because they're just
gonna yell you.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah, these are good points.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
I think maybe maybe because I'm just a big old
mister softy like the ice cream, I would have them
on very limited contacts.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
But I just thing is that like they've dropped the ball.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, Like trying to sabotage his job is pretty pretty
awful if your own son.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Don't your own son, Like I could see him being like, look,
I'm not gonna lie. This really sucks and kind of
hurts that we're losing this business. However, because I'm your
father and I love you, I'm so glad that you
have this good situation. They they treated him not just
like an employee, but like as a poorly treated him

(22:52):
as an employee.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
That'd be like if if Kean was leaving the company
to go work for another YouTube channel, and then we
went to that YouTube channel and we're like, Keon sucks,
he's terrible.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
To smire him, I would have to say a lie,
like he's not the sexiest man I've ever met. He's
so he's not he's so unsexy. Not his cakes won't
won't help.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
It's tiny.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
His butt is tiny, tiny, little flat button. I would
have to go and say, looks.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Oh. But that's the end of the story, ladies, gentlemen.
But there's more.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
There's more.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
I see, I see what you do there. There's more stories.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
There's more, and we're going to get into them. So
let's do it. I refuse to let my mother stay
with me.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Get out, mom.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
I'm gonna go through a long timeline of events. But
to start, my mom isn't the nicest person. Until I
was like twelve, we never really had a full conversation.
What type of conversations were you having?

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Hey, mom, Okay, when you get to school, I was
learning how to do fractions and I thought I was
pretty cool, but yeah, it was kind difficult. And they
told me to ask you some questions about the fractions
to see if if you can help me on my homework.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yeah, it's Google that helps it.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
I can't risk saying too many words to otherwise it'll
become a full conversation. But I've already said too much
already so I'm leaving goodbye.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
It got worse in twenty twenty my dad had left
our family and so it was just her, my little sibling,
and me. That time, I got super sad and didn't shower,
do the chores, anything like that. This led to my
rockiest period with my mom. She would yell at me
to take out the trash or do the dishes, and
I would just stay in my bed, triggered and even
less willing to do my chores. By the way, this

(24:39):
comes from Neither League thirty one sixty three, and if
you want to submit your own stories, go to the
r slash Okay, storytime separate it. So, of course that
isn't really an excuse. But over the past three years,
I've told my mom explicitly to stop yelling at me
because it was making my bad habits worse. Every time
she promised, and then after a few we would be

(25:00):
back to square one, and sometimes her screams would be
even more explosive. My last straw was six months ago
when she started the rule that if we didn't do
the dishes or throw at the trash, we didn't get food.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Oh my god, yikes, that's not whole CPS she would buy.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Groceries for herself, but not for me or my sibling.
And to be clear, at that time, I was working
full time with full time college, my sister was still
in high school doing a bunch of aps and extracurriculars,
and my mom had quit her job to work on
an online business at home.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
She her job, you can earn so much by working
at home.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
It didn't make sense to me why she expected us
to do all the chores when she was at home
all the time, then to threaten to take away our
food for it. At that moment, I knew I wanted
to leave and never talk to her again. The next
couple of months were like a fever dream. I stupidly
blurted out that I was planning to leave, but she
didn't seem to care. In fact, she passed aggressively said

(26:00):
that she'll even let my siblings stay with me, and
that she's only gonna live for herself. That's when she
went on a two month long business trip. She works
from home for her own business. During that time, I
finished signing a lease to a great low income apartment.
I started to actually relax and see my future again,
one with me and my sibling in our tiny studio,

(26:22):
working together to take care of ourselves, inviting friends over,
et cetera. I learned how to be an adults and
stuff through my older college friends, advisors and so on.
I felt so supported and at peace. And you're probably
doing all those tours right, So there we go.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Literally, just by living as an adult, you do the
chores by default.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
When my mom came back, she was calm. I still
felt so tense around her, but it seemed like she
mellowed out a lot over the trip, like she wasn't
getting mad at me for leaving the lights on and
wasting power. Wait, didn't you move out?

Speaker 1 (26:54):
I don't know when he's visiting or something.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
I yeah, I'm confused. Didn't he be move out and
you got I thought you got a studio with your sibling?

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, I'm confused too.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
She bought us take out a lot. Even when I
still acted upset around her, she would actually back off
and let me cool down. And finally, this feels really silly,
but she thanked me for taking care of my sibling
and commended me for my strength. She said she was proud,
and I felt validated by her. I still didn't like
living with her, but I thought maybe I could keep
contact with her. Then last night happened. This week is

(27:26):
my finals, and so I've been sleeping from six pm
to eleven PM, studying from eleven to six am, going
to class at seven to eleven, and then working between
twelve to six pm. Dang, that's terrible. I'm absolutely exhausted.
And because of that, I stupidly forgot I had a
final tomorrow at the same time we were supposed to
have movers help us load and unload our rented truck.

(27:48):
Oh my goodness, I honestly, ope, I think you should
do It's good? How awful seven eleven because I'm I'm
assuming you can't have classes. Well, actually no, you might
be able to from seven to eleven the whole time,
and then you go to work twelve to six, take
an hour break, and then do all of your studying, like,

(28:09):
take an hour nap, do all of your studying from
like let's say seven, seven thirty to eleven, and then
go to sleep. Because that your schedule sounds bad. Six
pm to eleven PM and then studying from eleven to
six am is insane. That's a bad schedule. Ope, sick,
that's a bad schedule. Hi, my mom checked in with

(28:33):
me today and I told her about it. To be honest,
I didn't think it was a big deal because we
have different crews helping us load and unload. With my
mom moving the truck, I wasn't going to be available
for the loading crew, but we have everything packed, so
in my mind there was nothing to really coordinate. But
she completely snapped at me in the same furious, loud
yelling way. She kept telling me how I promised, Why

(28:55):
couldn't I just do it anyway? And then we don't
have much time. She then said she was canceling our
truck reservation and that I was on my own. FYI,
I do not have a driver's license. Financial issues and
depression got in the way, and my mom offered to
pay and drive the truck to help save costs. Not
only am I going to lose the money from paying
for the movers because of this last minute cancelation, but

(29:17):
we all have less than a week until our lease
for the current apartment we all live in together until
that ends. To say that she completely sabotaged me is
an understatement.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah. Ope, he's the one paying for What are you
crying about? It?

Speaker 3 (29:30):
I don't understand she's not even paying. She's not paying
for it.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
This mom sucks.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
I think you have to like completely move out, like
don't have any content like or I don't be living
with your mom at all. Yeah, because you know this
isn't working.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
I know I'm at fault for messing up my timing,
but I just couldn't take it anymore. I embarrassingly just
started screaming like I was being unlived. I broke down,
ugly crying and wailing. I was pulling my hair out,
and just crumpled onto the floor. I've never done that before.
I feel absolutely foolish and dramatic for doing that. This

(30:07):
leads me to my final point. A week before all this,
my mom sat me down and asked if she could
stay with me for the next two months. Wait, I okay,
so she's not staying with them. Okay, because I was,
That's what I thought, But then it sounded like she
was kind of staying with like she's coming over all
the time. Yeah, so she's not staying with you currently.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Was it that all of them were moving out of
the old apartment and then OPI was moving into their
new apartment and the Mom's like, Hey, now I don't
have a place to stay, so let me live with
you for two months.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Which that probably means for forever for free.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Okay. So Opie signed Elise to a great low income
apartment and then they're oh they had it. Yeah, Okay,
so they hadn't moved in yet. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, he hadn't moved into They.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Hadn't moved into the new apartment yet. Yes, that's what
it seems like, because Opie was like seeing that future
of being like, Oh, I'm gonna like live with my sibling.
It's gonna be so great, blah blah blah. So it
doesn't seem like they have Yes. Yeah, Emily Lame says
Opie was moving and oh Mom is trying to mooch,
and when Opie said no, Mom said, I'm not helping you. Okay. Yeah,
so Opie had not yet moved out. This leads me

(31:17):
to my final point. A week before all of this,
my mom sat me down and asked if she could
stay with me for the next two months. Honestly, my
hair is pricked up. When she asked. I felt like
she was starting to invade my space again, and I
was scared she would ruin the peace and comfort I
found at my apartment. Again, we were wrong. Apparently they've
Ope is gone, Opie has moved out. I don't understand.

(31:40):
I guess is moving to a new place.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Maybe well maybe maybe they were saying that that was
like right before the move, But now Opie is at
their new place.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
I'll keep going. It's a little bit confusing, but if
I said no, she would have nowhere else to go.
Ever since she quit her job or savings have depleted,
and he's even asked for money to help pay bills
and stuff. And then, because of our relationship was improving,
I accepted, despite my body screaming to say no. Now
I don't now. I don't know if I am in
the mental space to decide, especially after my mental freak out,

(32:13):
but I need to know whether I should let my
mom stay with me. I don't think I can mentally
have her with me for even one more week, but
my moral compass won't let me fully commit to that.
We have less than a week. But I'm just not
ready to sit down and think about it right now.
So would I be the a hole if I don't
let my mom stay at my place, even if she
could become homeless and there is an update, folks.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Hmm, yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Badpool girl is asked the mom is asking if she
can move with them. I was just kind of cool, Yeah,
there's an update, but I was a little bit confused
because Opie had already moved out to a new place,
because that's what they said. They said they were staying
in their new apartment, and so it seems like they're
once again moving. But regardless, don't move in with your mother?

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Uh, I mean what about the whole time and everything
else that she's had a place to live?

Speaker 1 (33:06):
What about that?

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah? She used why does she not? Why is she
losing that place?

Speaker 1 (33:11):
You know, if you're that doesn't make any sense you're
of college age.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Just sounds like so it sounds like for at least
the past eighteen years and probably longer, she's had some sort.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Of box like structure for you and her to live in.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Could she not figure out a plan to get another
box like structure aka a home to be in?

Speaker 1 (33:33):
And she's a she's a big girl.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Yeah what did she do with that home? Where did
it go?

Speaker 1 (33:38):
And the business and the business? What is this? What
is this online? She quit her job?

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Yeah? Maybe she can get a job if she's so
you know, low on cash.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah, this business sounds like she figured out went on
vacation for two months and then and then that's it.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
She w on a vacation for two months. No wonder
you had of money.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
You have no job and spent two months on a vacation. Well,
that that's hard to keep money.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Then it is, so, I opie, that is not your
responsibility at all. And your it seems like your living
situation was going really well with your sibling and like
not having your mom around. So just remember that, remember
how good it was. And also, you don't really owe
your mom anything because she wasn't even feeding you.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Guys, Simba, remember remember Simba, look to the stars.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
There's an update, though, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Hey, it's Sam. We're gonna get back to these stories.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
But here's three bits of ads from our sponsors that
keep the show alive.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
I'm so used to being ignored a lot of the time,
even when I had my intense breakdowns, because my mom
would never react. Either she'd walk away or stare at
me blankly while I'm a wreck. And after so much
of that, I think I convinced myself that I was wrong, guilty, shameful,
and dramatic at the same time, though I also think
all of the people were right in that deep inside,

(34:58):
even as I was writing the post, I knew we
were a toxic and horrible match. As for the update,
my sister and I are fully moved in now.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
Yay.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
While I did not roll high on loving family, I
have an exceptional friend group. They all helped me pay
for the movers and moving truck, while also helping me
move boxes themselves and comforting me through the mess. Yay,
this is great. They're the best. This morning, though, I
woke up with a text from my mom. I think
I'll just send a screenshot of the whole thing, because honestly,

(35:28):
I had a hard time reading it. Basically, the whole
thing was littered with the same frustrations and excuses she's
had since twenty twenty that I don't seem like I'm
doing enough. She was tired, and she had a hard
time controlling her emotions the whole time. I was just
thinking of every moment she screamed in my face when
I was literally breaking down on the floor crying, and

(35:50):
now half the time she apologized, and now one hundred
percent of the time her promises to change were temporary.
The worst part is that I just think my mom
is simply unempathy. Whenever I say something like I'm tired,
she always responds with it you're tired. You can't be
as tired as I am. I'm old. If I don't
do something well or don't know something, oh sorry. If

(36:12):
I don't do something well or don't know something, she'll
say something alluding to me being stupid, but claim that
she never actually called me stupid. And if I ask
about anything serious that is related to me, especially finances,
she says, you're too young to understand. Not to mention.
She does this and then flips around to tell me
she loves and cares about me.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Boo oooh.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
This is an understatement. But she is emotionally exhausting to
be around. But it's never exhausting listening to full episodes
of stories just like this. Just go to Spotify, Apple
Podcast for iHeartRadio and search up Okay, storytime. Do there's
a little bit left to the story? What does OPI do?

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Uh? Well, I hate this Mama, I hate her. I
hate so much. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Well, K says maybe she's bipolar. I think she kind
of said she has trouble regulating her emotions, so.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
That could be the case. Yeah, and then maybe unmedicated
if that's yeah case, absolutely, but yeah, like at the
end of the day, op doesn't deserve us, op or
their sibling, No, both don't deserve us. And hey, Opie's
got a good head on their shoulders. And it can
be super hard, especially from like your parents in the environment.
We talk about reality disortion fields and like you know,

(37:22):
like a partner, I mean you're dating or married to dude,
your mom, and that's like full you're fully rewired your brain.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Oh yeah, so it can be hard to kind of
like and you were so overworked and everything.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
You like, OPI's probably like nineteen maybe Max.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
So much, so much burden on OPI's shoulders, and they're
handling it so well, and they totally deserve their own
space and peace and they've you know, done the work.
They've been going to school, like you've quite literally earned
that space by you know, doing all of that, taking
all that responsibility and doing all these things to have it.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
So, yeah, your mom can freaking yeah find her own
situation exactly.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
She'll figure it out. She'll get a job like you did.
And also just imagine your current schedule that sucks and
then putting your mom into it. Oh my god, nightmare, nightmare.
Not for me, truly. Yeah, she's got her own problems
to solve, and she's an adult and she'll figure them out.

(38:21):
Right now, you're literally taking care of your sibling. You
don't need to take care of your mom too, but
there's a little bit left a let's do it anyway.
I have not explicitly told her I won't let her
anywhere near my apartment because I feel both my energy
and my tears will be completely drained if I dare
to even try to talk or respond to her. I've
let my landlord know, though, so that makes me feel

(38:42):
more secure about that. She still tries to keep in
contact with my sibling, which stresses me out. I'm planning
on opening a secret bank account for them, just in
case the messages seemed a bit fishy. Great job of me,
I mean, just like, how mature and how like you're
doing a great job of being unfortunately a parent, but

(39:02):
for your sibling's sake, fortunately that they have someone in
their life that is willing to like take care of
them when your mom is not stand standing, you know,
stepping up for you guys.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Doing You're doing great, op doing great. Shout out to you.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Yeah, and good luck. Change your sleep schedule. It's bad. Yes,
stop doing the eleven to six study. That's bad.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Eleven pm to six am studying is great, especially considering
that you're already doing all the other stuff during the
other hours of the day.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Time, Yeah, yeah, let's do let's do our two hour
break study for a couple hours, go sleep.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, or even like take half the course load.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Well, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
So you can like yeh, yes, it will take longer
of course, or or like three you know whatever.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
You can decide what the sliding scale is.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
But if it's half the courseload, you get like a
lot of that time back, and it's way ward pressure
and yeah, it's it's too much for one one person.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Well that was the end of that story.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
That's the end of that story. But Sophia, we've got
another story. We've got around a story coming up. My
mother abandoned me to raise another man's children.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Uh, hold on, come back here, parent me.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
My twenty two father, seventy six male at the time
of his passing, married his first wife at a young age.
They had one son, my brother, now fifty eight male,
whoa twenty two and fifty eight day rata.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
That might be the furthest siblings were.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Twenty two and fifty eight.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Wow. Wow wow.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
My father's family comes from old money, so after his parents'
death when my brother was little, my dad inherited a
sizable fortune. The wife passed away when my brother was
nineteen years old. By the way, this comes from thurrow Away, Pippy,
And if you want to submit your own stories, go
to the r slash Okay, storytime subredits. So after around
seventeen years after his first wife's passing, my dad met

(41:00):
my mom, forty seven female, and after a year of dating,
they got married. At the time of their wedding, my
dad was fifty three and my mom was twenty four.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Okay, wow.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
I think it's important for the context of story to
specifically note their age difference, as it's caused some resentment.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
I can imagine why there.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
It is particularly in my older brother, who is eleven
years older than my mother.

Speaker 5 (41:26):
Ooh ooh, yeah, the fifty eight year old when your
old stepson is eleven years older than you stuff, that's
tough man.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
That's wow. Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
I was born soon after their wedding, and when I
was around two months old, my mom essentially packed her
bags and left my father and me.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Whoa wow.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
That was all I knew of the story until my
father passed away thereafter. I was solely raised by my father,
and we had a fantastic relationship. He was a great
dad and tried his best to give me everything he could.
But one thing you refused throughout my childhood was talking
about my mother in any way. He never bad mouthed there,
but he also never said anything substantial that would give
me any clue about what kind of person she was.

(42:11):
My brother and I had a complicated relationship. He was
always respectful and friendful towards me, but also distance well understandably.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
So yeah, to be fair, there's more than twenty years
of difference between you guys. So he's not I mean,
like it would be weird. Yeah, Like maybe he could
be kind of like uncle brother.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
I think I think he should be an uncle brother.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Yeah, he could be an uncle brother. But yeah, it
makes sense that you guys don't have like a sibling relationship. Yeah,
the man who's let's go get some dinner significantly older
than you.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
And yeah, this is like you're five and he's forty.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Yeah, he's like, hey, kid, what do you like to
do for fun? Why did day? And then you go
like you're driving around your little this little baby, and
you're like, yeah, this is my sibling.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Right, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
We've never had a brotherly sisterly relationship, which in a
way is expected since he is thirty six years older
than me.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
So crazy through him.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
I also have two nephews and a niece twenty nine,
twenty seven, and twenty.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Four, all of whom are older.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
That's great, and we'd had more of a cousin type relationship.
My brother and my father had a very strange relationship.
I later learned this was due to the resentment my
brother held over our father for marrying my mother. Fair
As said before, I had no contact with my mother
or any member of her family for my entire childhood.
Besides my father, brother and his family, the only family

(43:47):
was my aunt. In November twenty nineteen, my father was
diagnosed with stage four lung cancer. It was advanced and
very aggressive. Although he went through extensive treatment, he passed
away last January, which devastated me. We were extremely close
and I still can't believe he's gone. He left some
of his money to my aunt and my nephews and nieces,
but most of it was split evenly between my brother

(44:10):
and myself. After my dad's passing, I was dealing with
some anxiety. One of the fears I particularly harbored was
the fear of being left alone and abandoned. I had
my aunt, but she was also poor in health, and
if anything happened to her, I was really afraid that
I would be left alone. I didn't think my brother
would be particularly inclined to upkeeping our relationship, but I

(44:31):
was very wrong.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Oh, my brother and his.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Wife, fifty six female, stepped up and in a way
assumed a sort of parental role, maybe because they're thirty
six years older than you.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
As their parent age sister.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
In law has been very keen on in concluding me
in their family life and has been calling me and
visiting very often.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
I love that. I mean, yeah, he had this complicated
relationship with his dad because of your mom, very rightfully so,
but has not let that bleed into his relationship with you.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Don't carry it over into the children.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Don't do it.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
We've seen this with the fair babies, yeap, where people
are like, oh, it's a baby as.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
A baby, it's a person who literally baby did nothing
wrong and did nothing that as a baby. That baby
doesn't even know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
That's correct, it's a baby because babies don't speak words.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Babies are dumb.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
They speak babbel. Yep.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Now I couldn't be more grateful, and we've established a
close relationship. The core of my problem, however, appeared at
my father's funeral back in January.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
My father had lots.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Of friends, what he called associates, so my brother decided
to hold an open funeral so that everyone could come
and say goodbye to my father.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Well, my mother appeared. Hey, it's John here. We're gonna
get back to the stories.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Put a quick three minute ad break from our sponsors
that keep the show going.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Whoa what girl, you've been gone for years? What are
you doing here?

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Wow? With her entire family?

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Oh, I would be so upsessed.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yeah, which again, Oh, to remind everyone, the mom's entire
family never saw, spoke, had any interaction with Ope whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
And also I think she was twenty four when she
had opee, right, yeah, not young enough to be like ah,
I like I needed to or like, you know, not
that anyone should ever abandon the child, but like you know,
usually when you're younger, that is, it's like, okay, well
she was so young and like blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
When never she's twenty four.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yeah, she decided to have a kid, and then she
abandoned that kid and then had more kids. Never once
came back. Why are you here?

Speaker 1 (46:41):
I know another woman who's twenty four years old.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
I'm not having a good children.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Well, my mother appeared with her entire family, and when
I say her entire family, I mean it.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
I didn't recognize her.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
I've only seen some photos of her, but my brother's
reactions soon made me realize it was her. I didn't
recognize any of the other people that came with Amber,
my mother's name, but was later told about them by
my aunt. Amber brought her husband, children, her parents' siblings,
and their families. My god, we're talking like probably like

(47:15):
twenty thirty plus people.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
To your ex husband's funeral that you haven't seen in
ten twenty twenty four years, four years, two and a
half decade. What huh?

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Moreover, her husband's family also came.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
They come that just does? She was like, Hey, do
you guys all want to come to my ex husband's funeral?
Thought it could be like a fun outing. There's gonna
be drinks, it's gonna be a nice tip. Maybe we
could go get dinner afterwards.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Love little or nerves. We can wear the best blackout fits. Good, No,
don't do that. My brother was pissed and wanted to
throw them out, but sister in law convinced them otherwise.
I have to say I didn't know how to react
at that point. I think I glanced their way A
couple of times. After the funeral's over, Mom came towards
us with her husband and tried to give her condolence.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
The audacity to literally come over and be like, hey,
sorry for your loss. I'd be like, Mom, mama, Mama,
haven't seen you in twenty four years.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
You're not You can you can keep it?

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Yeah, you keep that title. I don't want it.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
You can.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
I mean, it would already be a lot to reach out,
you know, outside of the far and be like, yeah, hey,
I messed up with that.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
But she's not even addressing it. She's not even like, hey, child,
who I haven't seen ever.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
She's like, c up, sorry about your dad, sorry to
oops Oopsie, sorry abandoned you, Oopsie. But my brother told
her to leave, that she was not welcome and to
not come close to us ever. Again, I didn't speak
with her or any member of her party when she
came over. I sort of partially hid behind my nephew.
At one point, I think she tried to say something
to me, but my brother shut her down. He was

(48:54):
pretty rude, but I think it was in a way understandable.
When people do things that that are terrible, it is
acceptable to get frustrated and mad at them.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
I concur that is acceptable.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Yeah, could be nice to you when you were awful.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
And also I appreciate that your brother's standing up for you.
This is true once again, he is being much more
of a parent than your mother literally ever was because
she wasn't even at all any sort of parent or
any sort of figure in your life.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
There you have it.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
I think I tried to ask my brother questions about mom,
but he refused to talk. So I convinced my aunt.
Seeing my mother and her new children made me want
to know why she left me. I was half expecting
that Aunt would also be hating Mom, but she seemed
convinced that my mom cared for my father when they
first met, but that after they married realized the impact
their age difference had on their married life. I learned

(49:47):
that while my mom was pregnant with me, she met
x mom's current husband, fifty two male I'm gonna call
him Xander.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Ooh, Xander called Xander.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Who I was working close to. My father.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Mom's new husband was married at the time and had
three children, but his wife was very sickly and passed
away at one point during my mother's pregnancy. After I
was born, my mother suffered postpartum depression and left with
Xander when I was two months old.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Well, now I'm feeling like there was some overlap between
the sick wife's passing and Xander and Opie's mom's relationship.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
It's definitely, I mean two months after he was born.
I mean that's and she just it wasn't like oh,
I like, for instance, divorced before the baby came out,
and then after by no, she left she familyft with Zane.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
I mean yeah, so they were absolutely had some sort
of relationship before.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
You don't leave with someone that you don't know, and
that's that's not the beginning of their relationships.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Yeah, it's just not.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
My brother hated my mother and believed she was a
gold digger, but my aunt assured me that my mom
never demanded or got any money. After Dad and her divorced.
Last aunt heard my mom married her new husband soon after.
Just real quick, Yeah, maybe she's not a gold digger,
but she also is.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Not a good person.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Left you. And yes, she had postpartum depression, which.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Is very real, absolutely very serious and deserves you know,
deserve a lot of support and treatment and all of those.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Did she have postpartum depression for twenty four years?

Speaker 1 (51:17):
That part, that part make a mistake. Got owned up
to it.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
She gave up all her parental rights after the divorce
and also refused visitations my god. I asked aunt if
mom ever tried to initiate a contact while I was
growing up. She didn't, but her younger sister tried to
see me twice when I was six and ten, but
my father refused that.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
That is actually rough, that's rough that the aunt tried
to go in cop because she probably wanted to have
a relationship with her niece. Yeah, and then the father
was like, no, like what that's that's her aunt.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
And I have to say this hurt me a lot.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
It was one thing knowing that she left, but another
to know that she left to be with another man
and his children. I searched her on Facebook and saw
that she had three children with Xander and also considers
his three children hers.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
In some posts, they refer to her as a mom.
But you weren't a mom for your yeah, iological first daughter.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
I mean four years, Opie. It is really awful and
your mom does not deserve any of your you know, forgiveness.
But I do think it's important to note that, like,
you have your brother, and you have your brother's family
who all love you and all support you and all
care about you, and so that is not nothing. Yes,

(52:40):
but still obviously her is a lot.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
And especially I think the coming up at the funeral
for such a loop so disgusting.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Yeah, like that's terrible behavior. Who does that?

Speaker 2 (52:53):
God, who freakin does that? I was pretty hurt, so
I left it at that. In a way, I kind
of forgot about it until March when a girl with
a familiar name followed me on Instagram, so I recognized
her instantly. As a step sibling. I was confused, why
would she follow me? I did not follow her back.
During the next couple of months, I got followed on
Instagram by other members of my mom's family, her children,

(53:15):
nephew's nieces. Even her mother followed me the grandmother what.
I never followed back, nor did we ever strike a conversation.
Some of them liked some of my pictures, but never
anything beyond that. I didn't tell anyone about this, nor
did I have any intention of initiating any conversation with them.
But a week ago I was followed by my mom, Oh,

(53:35):
what is this weird?

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Like this? It's so ichy. So if she had I
don't know if she had maybe sent a letter or
sent some sort of message to op and said, Hey,
I know I don't deserve a relationship with you in
any way. You don't owe me anything. I just wanted
to tell you that I have. I don't know. Maybe

(54:00):
she's made changes in her life, realize the errors of
her way, YadA, YadA, YadA, and said I just wanted
to know that I'm here if you ever want to talk.
But I will respect your you know, respect your decision
and leave it at that. That would be the right move.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
This is not at this point so long.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
That would be probably almost the only accept I agree.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
I agree. Yeah, this getting your entire family to follow
op in some kind of weird like I don't know,
it just feels like psychological like torment. Yes, you know,
it feels I would be like, why are they following me? Yeah,
like obviously not like to be clear to all reviews,

(54:43):
not following, but Instagram following or social media social media following,
but why I would be so confused.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Yeah, and every every person that follows you just like
brings it.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Yeah. It can't sack all.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Those emotions every single time. It was quite shocking and
seeing the notification, I did not know what to think.
In a way, it felt intrusive. Yes, I should have
put my profile in private. That very same day, she
sent me a message. It was a very long message,
and after reading it, I was very conflicted and also
too like, again, you can write this letter, but I
feel like sending it on an Instagram DM just feels

(55:18):
like like like at least in emails, like yeah, but
I guess how do you.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
Get your emails? Yeah, yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Yeah, Facebook message, even if I don't know, but I'm
just flitting hair. But even if Facebook message feels like okay,
I'm like trying to find the most respectable channel personally.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
I think if she was gonna go to that freaking funeral,
which I don't think she should have, she should have
come with a letter in said here you go. You
don't have to read this if you don't want to.
Just wanted to give it to you. There we go,
and then left and not brought the whole freaking family. Yeah, Like,
I'm sorry. What No.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
In the message she introduces herself expresses how hard it
is for her to write this message. She in a
way expresses regret for leaving me, doesn't say why, Anne
expresses her wish of beating me in to talk and
get to know me. I did not respond. It's been
a week since I read it, but I simply can't
bring myself to respond. In a way, I don't know
what to say. On one hand, I've always wanted to
know my mom, but that was before learning why she left,

(56:13):
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Speaker 1 (56:30):
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Speaker 2 (56:39):
I don't know why, but Frank the Puck I think
said sixty five the other day.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
I know with that right now we have sixty five
straight days.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Like, if you listen twenty four to seven for sixty
five days, you would still not right out, which means.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
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listen to our podcast. Oh and you know what, Please
please please rate us five stars on Spotify while you're
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Speaker 2 (57:06):
We are approaching the end of the story. But my god,
this one's a dude.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
It is. And I think my advice for op right
now is that first kind of sit with this before
you go and take it to your siblings, your family members,
because they'll have their own thoughts, probably saying don't talk
to her. Sit with it before you talk to anyone.
Think about does any part of you want to see her?

(57:33):
Is any part of you curious about what she has
to say? And if you aren't, if you're like I
literally don't want to see her, and it's just like
maybe some obligation you think that you have to see her.
You don't. There's no obligation to see her.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
And also if you are at all curious, you don't
have to see her. Now you can say, hey, I
appreciate for reaching out. Don't feel comfortable right now. Maybe
there will come a day when I am it's not
right now, so you can postpone that she's on your timeline,
not the other way around. And then once you've made
those decisions, you can go talk to your family members
if you want. But it can also just be kind

(58:08):
of a thing for you.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Well, that was phenomenal advice.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
I mean basically everything Sophia just said.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
But I guess also if you do feel that part
of you that is, you know, whether it's curiosity, whether
it's like, hey, I just want to have a mother
in my life, you don't wish again, like, whatever you
want to do, that's the move. You know, whatever you
feel and your desires are for this again, it's your timeline.
This is for you because you know you're the one

(58:36):
that had to go through this very awful thing right
potentially be prepared to potentially be let down. Yes, because
she has literally flubbed the ball at every single pass,
at every single juncture.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
You can prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Yeah, go into it being like she might ask me
for money. Yep, you might say that she hates me, like,
you know, go into it knowing that she might hurt you.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Yes, And if you do want to talk to her,
maybe fine, especially with the new inheritance. You're like a
really good therapist that specializes in this kind of maybe
like mother ab abandonment or something along those lines, to
help you navigate that if you want to do that.
M Dang, Sophia, we both kind of crushed the advice
on this one.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
I gotta agree. Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
What a great allue was. Thank you welcome.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
But ladies and gentlemen, we're going to get to the
conclusion of this roller coaster we've got in front of us.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Opie says.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
But then again, I feel like meeting her would be
a betrayal to my father. I truly believe that he
started hating her after she left. I also feel like
meeting her would be a betrayal to my brother, who
has become my biggest a port system in the last year,
and he has truly taken.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Care of me.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
He detests her, and I know he would not be
okay with me meeting her. I also ask myself, why,
now the only thing that's changed, my father is no
longer around. Why would my mom contact me? If my
father was still alive, would she contact me at all?
It is very suspicious, Yeah, suspecially because what happens when
people pass away in inheritance, it's probably won that money.

(01:00:19):
And maybe every one of the hundred family members that showed.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Up, Yeah, I was all looking for money.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Our most I think still our most popular episode of
all time was the story of basically how army of
family literally stormed Opie's lawn to demand for money and
they literally got in a physical altercations.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Trying to demand money from her. It can get a
little nutty.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
It can get crazy, especially when you have mob of
family like literally.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
I'll come into your dad's funeral.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Yeah, I have no idea what to do, or how
to respond, or whether to respond at all. I would
I really appreciate any advice at all. I will quickly
say that OPI mentioned like, oh, I wouldn't want to
you know, let down my father, my father's memory, or like,
but my brother.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
You do what you want to do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Yes, it's okay if it goes against their wishes because
I think this is your experience that you went through. Absolutely,
and I fully believe that you are entitled to do
what you want to do. Maybe that aligns with what
they want, but if you want something different than then
it's perfectly okay, which.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
Is why I think it's like, figure out what you
want before. Yeah, before you got people putting things in
your head.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Absolutely, but that's the end of that story and I
think the end of this episode.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
But guys, if you love us, make sure to subscribe

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
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