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00:00 r/relationship_advice - My dad married the woman he had an affair with, she has been causing a lot of drama ever since and I need advice on knowing how to deal with all of this!! I’m feeling so hopeless
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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My father married is a fair partner.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Oh that's not the person you're supposed.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
To marry, Sugar warning. Emotional abuse. My eighteen female dad's
wife has been very difficult for me to deal with,
and it has made coming to terms with the past
much more painful for me. I really need advice on
how to handle the situation and how to set boundaries
so I don't have to deal with the same problems
over and over. By the way this comes from, should
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Speaker 2 (00:47):
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Speaker 3 (00:56):
Uh so, Opie says. My dad and stepmom got married
almost five years ago, and I've become overwhelmed and exhausted
by the emotional effort required to maintain a relationship with
my father. While keeping things peaceful with stepmom. I live
with my mom in a different state than my dad.
I visit him three to four times a year, wanting
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nothing more than to spend quality time with my dad
and younger brothers. But without fail, every single visit in
the past five years, stepmom is thrown a complete fit.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Does does the fit go hard though?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, that's the question.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I feel intense anxiety about going to my dad's house.
It is made visiting my family incredibly difficult. I want
to see them often to maintain good relationships, but seeing
her stresses me out beyond explanation. Every visit. I do
my absolute best to be respectful and gauge her in conversations,
keep my space immaculate, run errands for her, and always
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express gratitude for anything she does for me. While I
show her respect, I may contain boundaries because she and
my dad had an affair.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Ooh, yike, yikes. I don't understand how a parent can
like expect a child to just be cool with that.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, they're like, yeah, she.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Done your mom here she is, She's gonna be in
charge of you.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
It's something I'm still working through, and I think it'll
take a lot of time to get past it is
made trusting both of them very difficult. I made it
clear that I will respect her, but I don't want
her to try and act like we're close or like
she's my mom, and that I don't want a tight
relationship with her at this time. I think that's reasonable,
though I understand why she wouldn't be happy about it.
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Despite making my boundaries clear, she always finds a way
to cross them, leaving me feeling defeated. Every trip follows
the same pattern. First, she's aggressively nice, offering me tons
of money, which I always refuse.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Take it. Take the money, Take that money.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Money. If she's gonna stomp all of your boundaries anyway,
take the money, take the money. I just be like,
this doesn't change anything.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, just don't even say that. Just take it and
know it changes.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Nothing, and telling me she's going to do everything for
me so I can relax. Over the next few days,
she gets frustrated because I won't open up as much
as she wants and realizes she can't buy my forgiveness
and affection. This is when she starts taking jabs at
my mom, calling my younger brothers her son's knowing this
bothers me and constantly asking my opinion just to disagree
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with me. I can tell she's on edge trying to
pick a fight, which makes me avoid her. That leads
her to tell my dad I'm being disrespectful and won't
acknowledge her, which isn't true. I just spend more time
in my room to avoid trouble. Stepmom bugs my dad
about how I'm not being nice to her, putting him
on edge too. Soon, both stepmom and my dad are
worked up and they usually get in a full blown
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rage fight while I'm there screaming, throwing things, stomping around,
and it makes me incredibly uncomfortable because I hate seeing
my dad upset and he's you usually irate with me
since I'm apparently the cause of her behavior. Great, yeah,
excellent parenting at your.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Faud clearly though your fault. All of this is your fault,
eighteen year old daughter, and not my fault for marrying
my affair partner.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
No surre, Glad we cleared that up. After the blowout,
things come down for a day or two with everyone
laying low, but soon enough, Stepmom regains energy to stop
sulking and continues pursuing ways to upset me. She constantly
needs attention and makes me feel like I have to
compete for my own dad. Through all this, I usually
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managed to push through to the end of my trip
with my sanity intact and without saying anything that would
further damage our relationship. My Thanksgiving trip was the breaking point.
All the usual drama had happened, but this time she
wouldn't leave me alone. Four days into my visit, she
was discussing religion with some missionaries she'd invited over from
my church. She'd always been vocal about having no interest
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my religion, and I'm perfectly okay with that. I just
want her to respect my beliefs, since my religion is
something I hold in high importance and cherished deeply. She
engaged with the missionaries and began making false accusations against
my church, knowing full well they were far fetched. I'm
convinced she said these things not to get the truth,
but to get a reaction from me. Finally, I couldn't
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help but scoff at her absurdity. I know this was
my mistake. I'm only human, and I immediately apologized for
my rudeness. Despite this, my scoff sent her into a
full tantrum. She screamed at me, telling me I needed
to humble myself. Ow dare I laugh at.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Her not being so funny?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
You're just too dang funny. You should get on stage
because you're a gosh darn comedian.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
You're just a little uh a diamond in the rough
with your humor.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Mmmmm, and that she hated me and wouldn't stop attacking
me with name calling and low blows. All I did
was scoff, I couldn't take it anymore and snapped. I
started yelling back and ended up calling her a witch
and telling her I hated her. This happened in front
of her guests, and I'm still embarrassed by this interaction.
Stepmom apologized the next day, telling me this was somehow
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my dad's fault and basically deflecting all accountability.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
This is actually your dad's falt for marrying me.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I know he wasn't there, but I mean, you know,
if you didn't have an affair, we would never have had.
This fight.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Is action the blood butterfly, first fish that crawled out
of the ocean. It's that it's its fault.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, certainly not mine.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
The first mitochondria. It's the mitochondria's fault, actually.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
The big Bang's fault. I didn't return the apology, which
upset her even more since she'd only apologize to get
one back from me. I left my Dad's feeling incredibly
bitter and sad. I'm exhausted by having to deal with
this petty drama who every single visit. I do my
best to stay out of it, but I'm only human
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and eventually reach my breaking point. Step mom has disrespected
my space and feelings every time I visit, and I
haven't done anything until that last visit to fuel an argument.
I don't see this cycle ever ending and feels so hopeless.
I don't want it to affect my relationship with my
dad that it already has. How could I move on
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from this mess? How can I communicate with someone as
unreasonable as her? How can I ensure my next visit
won't be full of drama? How do I have a
healthy relationship with my dad with the resentment I have
towards both of them? And what do I do next
time so I won't leave feeling hopeless and sad. Stepmom
is obviously insecure and it shows, making her almost impossible
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to reason with or communicate with. I really would appreciate
any advice offered. Thank you, and there is an update, folks.
But what's your advice for op.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I mean, like, it's hard when you're eighteen, but you
just have to care less about what this person who
ultimately like doesn't have any control over you anymore, like things,
you know, I feel that great advice, but it's like
literally just learning to like just be like, okay, yeah,
you just not ignore. Is your dad's not gonna divorce her?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah? I my advice if you know, if you still
want to be with like have time with your dad
is I mean, you're eighteen, so you don't have to
stay over at their house anymore. Maybe invite your dad
to do things outside of the house and just have that,
like a really frank conversation about you know, you just
can't have a relationship with your stepmom right now. It
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just isn't working. And I still want to have a
relationship with you, So let's figure out a way we
can do that outside of the house.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, if you do want that an yeah, I think
it should be pretty understandable to go like, hey, the
woman you cheated on my mom with I'm never gonna
really be cool with her. Yeah, and I don't think
she's gonna ever be cool with me because I won't
be cool with her. So what are you gonna do that?
Because you're also not the parent in this situation, you're
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the child, so you shouldn't have to be the one
managing all exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
But there is an update three years later. WHOA, Okay,
so we're about to find out probably exactly what OPI did.
When I now twenty one female was fourteen, my parents
divorced and my father forty five male, married his mistress
forty's female I'll nickname her Latoxica, three weeks after finalization.
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The very first time I stayed at my dad's house,
I was sitting in my room on my phone while
my dad was at work.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Dude, he married this woman three weeks after the divorce
was finalized. That's actually that's crazy. That's like I read that,
but I didn't absorb it.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I wouldn't be cool with my dad.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I would never be cool. I would be like, Dad,
I'm not coming to the wedding.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, did you go to the wedding? I'd be I'd
be so so uncool.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Latoxica came into my room asking if we could discuss
my parents de and I'd say.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
No, Oh, how you had homewrecked to my family.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
With my father? I politely said I don't feel up
to talking about it. Despite me setting that boundary, she
sat on my bed and told me the divorce wasn't
her fault and I had no right to blame her
for anything.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Hey, am going to blame you for not getting out
of my room right now?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Why are you in? I literally be like, sorry, why
are you in? Why are you in my room?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Like straight up, like why are you looking behind you?
Like what who are you talking to? Because it's not me.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I didn't even completely blame her. I knew there was
blame on my dad and even my mom. I told
her again I didn't want to talk about it, and
she said we had to talk about it. When I
refused again, I was forced to lock myself in the bathroom,
where she knocked on the door for over an hour
yelling at me to come out. Man, I literally would
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never forget that.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Lady me at eighteen that becomes a physical.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Well, this isn't when OP was eighteen.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Now, this has been there fourteen. Yeah, oh even more so.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah. After that incident, she's held a grudge against me
for not accepting her, despite the fact that I was
only fourteen and simply did not want to talk about
painful things at that time. Every visit since then, Latoxika
finds petty things to get angry about. She has a
clear double standard. My brothers leave stuff all over the
house and she picks up after them without complaints, but
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if I leave something out for a second, she accuses
me of doing it to piss her off.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
At that point, I'd be like, you're right, Yeah, you're right.
I'm doing this. Does it exclusively to upset you?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Is it working? Are you furious?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Every moment of every day is a calculation to make
you upset.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
When I was sixteen, Latoxika accused me of laughing at
her while she debated religion with guests. I wasn't even
the same room. I was texting friends with headphones in.
She demanded I come downstairs, where she screamed and humiliated
me in front of the guests. I eventually yelled back
and told her I hate you, which wasn't mature. You
were fourteen or sorry, sixteen, but still she yelled at
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you in front of a bunch of people, and then
you said I hate you. Seems warranted. During quarantine when
I was nineteen, I stayed at my dad's for a month.
He told me I could play his Nintendo Switch while
there no way. I asked everyone where it was and
they all said no idea. I spent hours looking for it.
The next day, my father told me his wife has
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been hiding it and lying because she didn't want me
to play it. I said it was super lame that
she would lie. I wouldn't have cared if she told
me I just couldn't play it. She overheard me and
threw the switch at me, saying she was sick of
my attitude. She threw the switch at you.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
If I was ope, I'm throwing him, there'd be there'd
be like a bell. There would have already been a
bell in the bathroom and on the door. I'm opening
that thing up, I'm saying, straight right, okay, and then
I'm back in the bathroom. I'm not advocating for that.
I'm just saying that's what I would have done at fourteen.
If my dad's mistress is screaming at me that I
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need to talk to her about how she's not to
blame for anything.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yi.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I responded, you didn't have to lie to me, that's all.
I apologize for disrespecting her in her house, and she responded,
remember this is my house, not yours. I'm pretty sure
it's my dad's pretty sure you're wrong about that, lady.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Hours later, she cornered me in the kitchens, screaming that
I was a hypocrite, that I'd lied before, so I
had no right to call her out.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
So the uppercut is you throw it with the elbow
tucked in right. It's a lot of bad job jab
and come up with the back.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I asked her to back off because she was upsetting me,
and she started condescendingly laughing, saying I'm not going to
back off in my house. I flipped her off, yelled
f you, and ran out. After that incident, I decided
to never fuel the fire again. I started putting maximum
effort into having a good relationship with her. I apologized
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for every single time I'd ever wronged her and let
go of the past, despite never receiving an apology. Back
in June, I cleaned the house multiple days, gave her compliments,
offered to help. Despite being nice, she was extremely critical
of how I dressed, telling me, all of our friends
think my family makes too much money for you to
be dressing like that. I even bought new clothes to
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please her. My boyfriend came for the part of the
trip and she liked him, so she was on better behavior.
After this trip, I felt like I could finally have peace.
Year's where it gets bad again. In October, my dad
took me to Florida with La Toxica and my younger
brother heck ensued, Oh no. When I met them at
the airport, she told me my outfit was horrible. I
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actually I'm wondering, like why did we go on this trip, because.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I think it's like, you know, it's kind of like
what I said about not caring, but instead it was
like the opposite. Instead of not caring, you're like, I
won't care to get mad. I'll just try to be
the peacemaker, which is kind of almost not caring but not.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Quite the problem is that when you try and do
everything to please her, you realize that she there is
nothing that you need to please her exactly because she's
just gonna keep raising the bar because she just doesn't
like you.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
If she's like, your outfit's horrible, I'm like, well, it
certainly is horrible to sleep with a married man. Yeah,
every time, not something I've ever done. Every time you
just hit her with that, Wow, where's my mom? I
don't see her, She's not you. Oh yeah, and then
just slept with my dad every time.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I didn't know it was expected to wear something nice
on a red eye flight.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, what is this like the fifties? Like everyone has
to wear.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Everyone's got to be messed up on your flights. You
never know who you gotta meet.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Dakota, you never know could be on that Howard Hues,
could be.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Flying that plane, would be Marlon Brando.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
We're flying twa so true.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
On the first night there, I was talking to my
aunt about my grandma and we were laughing about some
of her ridiculous antics. It wasn't serious, and I didn't
say anything hurtful about my grandma or anything I wouldn't
say to her face. These harmless comments about my grandma
triggered Latoxika the entire trip. She got angry at me
for the pettiest things, interjected every time I talked to
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my dad, and was extremely passive aggressive. She kept making
comments like I just love younger brother because he's genuine
while glaring at me.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I'd be like, I'm genuinely repulsed by you.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I genuinely hate you.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Like is your name Rita, rita repulsa? Uh aren't you
supposed to be on the Power Rangers TV show?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Oh? I was incredibly distraught and cried the whole trip
because I was so stressed. She would lash out at me.
I genuinely I feel like, if you're having these types
of stress reactions, don't go on trips with your stepmom.
If your dad says, hey, you want to come on
a trip with the family, you say, is Stepmom'm gonna
be there? And if he says yes, you go.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Well No, I feel like you're like one step removed
from like the Promised Land Nirvana of just being like
truly nothing you say holds.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Anything, you can't affect me.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
It's like, yeah, you are now the clown from it,
and I am not afraid of you anymore.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yep, you can.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
You can't get me.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
After the trip, she had no idea why I was
sad during it. You called me after one counseling session
to explain that she should have communicated better. But I
was the one in the wrong for criticizing my grandma.
You're not even related to her.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, i'd be like, so peace, Grandma, who are you
talking about?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I apologize because I wanted it to be over, But
I told my dad I would never go on vacation
with them again and that she would never regain my trust.
Last week, I was on the phone with my brother.
He had me on speakerphone but forgot to tell me.
During the conversation, something came up about toxica, and I
laughed and said she was so toxic. She was eavesdropping,
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and about an hour later sent me a text accusing
me of still trash talking about her. She claimed that
she had been nice to me for seven years, pointed
out that I had asked her for money just a
week prior, and said she thought we had resolved her issues.
The truth is I only ever asked her for money
because my dad supports me through college, but insists I
ask her instead of him. He says.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
She likes the acknowledgment, the acknowledgement of what just having
someone else's money.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
In reality, she's simply transferring me my dad's money, but
I have no choice but to go through her.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
You just asked me for money last week. Whose money
was that, you know?
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Was it your money?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Whose money was that?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I didn't realize that you just got all of my
father's assets.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Oh are you his employee? M oh so all of
I'm confused. I thought you guys got married after you
cheated with him. But no, I guess you're an employee.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Most of the time, I save up my own money
just to avoid interacting with her. I replied to her,
admitting that I shouldn't have said what I did. I
explained that I was having a private conversation with my brother,
but that it was still unacceptable. I told her I
wouldn't make excuses, but I didn't feel she had been
nice to me at all over the past seven years,
and that she had treated me in ways that were toxic.
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I admitted that I still resented her for mistreating me
in the past, but I shouldn't have said unkind things
and was sorry.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Bro, she was literally being the NSA on you right now.
She was spying on you. She said that in a
private conversation she sucks. You should be like, I'm sorry
you decided to eavesdrop and get your own feelings hurt.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I'm sorry that you are toxic, and I said that
you were toxic.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
You're doing it right now.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I mean, the sky's blue. What do you want me
to say? You want me to lie? I also told
her that I had only asked for money because my
dad told me to. She responded by saying she had
nothing else to say to me. Then she claimed that
in the past she had barely spoken to me and
suggested I must only remember the negative things, or maybe
if you're barely speaking to her, then every time you're
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speaking to her it's negative.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
She would have just said, I just would. After she
said I have nothing else to say to you, I
was to thank God.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I didn't think you were glad ever gonna shut up?
You just kept talking. She questioned when she had ever
been toxic to me, and claims she was trying to
remember any such time. Each of her texts were laced
with passive aggressive emojis. Her claims were completely false. I
didn't avoid speaking to her. She was the one who
constantly pestered me throughout my adolescence, forcing me into dozens
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of conversations I didn't want to have. I had no
idea where she was getting the idea that she barely
spoke to me. There is a little bit left to
this story. Do you have any final thoughts?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
She's like, when have I been toxic? I'd be like,
I don't know. I remember I was fourteen. I was
locked in the bathroom for an hour because you just
wanted to tell me that the affair wasn't your fault.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I think you just go through all the times that
you remember. You know, when I was fourteen, and when
some when I was sixteen, and when when I was
sixteen and a half eighteen.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Honestly, at the end of the day, all of this
is like if you because I would also have a
problem with my dad, I'd be like, if y'all had
like a shred of decency, y'all would have waited six
months before you got married, but you did it three
weeks after. You're literally garbage. I don't want anything to
do with you.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah. And also the fact that he keeps trying to
pressure Op into having a relationship with her stepmom. Yeah,
you know, like one he's trying to make Op go
on these trips together, making her ask her stepmom for money.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
And he's studying for school too, So it's like, I
guess you can't really yeah, obliterate that relationship, Yeah, but
certainly can't after school. Yes, And I'll go, wait, what
do you mean I paid for your school? He'd be like,
I wonder if this is how mom felt when she
found out you were cheating on her rug pull.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Just maybe, but there's a little bit left. I end
at the exchange by telling her that she should figure
it out on her own. I told her I had
endured abuse from her since the moment I met her,
wished her good luck, informed her I was blocking her,
and told her not to contact me again.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Good good job.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
But you got there. Took you a while, ten years,
we got there.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I would love to just bother her though, you know
what I mean, Like, I get it that the blocking
is the most peaceful. But she just talk to me,
and I just go like this, oh cheater, says what
what exactly? Was there something you said?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
After this conversation, my dad called to let me know
she was completely lost in crying because she had no
idea she was harmful and toxic. Well, then go to therapy.
If you don't have any self awareness, this is like, have.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
You heard like, you know, the performative male joke right now,
this is like the flip side of the performative male,
like the like the dark counterpart of the performative like
toxic a fair wife being like, oh my god, I'm
so distraught.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I didn't know I was toxic and no harmful, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
So upset about it. It's like, no, you're upset. You're
being called out on it. Literally.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I mean, from when she had the affair and NOP
was fourteen, she has asserted that she has not done
anything wrong, nothing.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
It's not my faults, not.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
My fault, and she just can't accept fault or blame
for anything. She told my brother she was sad I
would make up lies and trade her that way after
she'd been so nice to me. I told my dad
I didn't care and that she's a self absorbed person
I don't want in my life. I'm exhausted by the gas,
slighting and abuse, but my dad keeps telling me it's
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not that bad, it's not abuse. I want to maintain
no contact with her because I cannot see any solution.
Is there something I'm missing here?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
No?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Keep no contact?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, I mean you kinda are missing that it could
be really funny to just bother her incessantly, but that
is not the path of peace. No, and you can
maintain no contact. You're not ready. You're still twenty one.
You're not ready yet to fully just like bother this
person while everything that they say means nothing to you. Like,
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you're not there yet. You need a little more time
in the rock tumbler before you know, you get polished
to that level.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
So true, Oh pee, just keep tumbling, you'll get there.
We'll get there eventually. But that's the end of that story.
And we've got another one coming right up.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
I demanded money from my brother after my pet passed away.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Was he responsible?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Let's find out? I twenty female and my brother sixteen male.
I have never gotten along. This all started years ago,
when I was around ten. I don't know what's in
this story, but I'm putting a trigger warning for something
happening to a pet right now. If you're a person
who can't handle that, probably this is a risky story
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to listen to, because the next sentence is, I know
it's common for siblings not to get along, but this
kid is a psycho.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Oh no, that's not good. Get your pets out of there.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Our arguments were always very severe. And by the way,
this comes from user Amy Louver And if you want
to submit your own stories, go to the r slash
Okay storytime subred it. I'm Dakota, I'm Sophia, I'm Riley,
and Op says I have always been an animal lover.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I'm scared.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
I just hope it's not a turtle.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
What because he likes turtles woodles.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
I don't know anybody else. You get to pick one,
You get to pick one one pet. You hope it's not.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Oh, I hope it's not a dog.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Me as well. I hope you can't get mine. Yeah,
hope it not a bigger dog.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Okay, I don't know what size my dog was.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Fine, I hope it's not a cat. Okay, we've got cats,
turtles and dogs.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Are covered everything else. Sorry, And all.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Of my pets have lived long and happy lives up
to this point. He, on the other hand, is not
good with pets. All of his animals have turned on
each other through lack of care and research. He's running
the watership.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Down and cock fights in there.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Oh, it's the bunnies turning on each other, which actually
they will do that.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah. Yeah, that's the one passage that Dakota read from.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
No, No, I'm not even from Watership that like if
you bunnies will get aggressively violent.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Yeah, and apparently if you put pigs, horses and other
you know, animals on a farm, they will start like
communism or something.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
And that's it.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
And that's Watership down and.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
That's Watershed and animal Farm is actually about bunny.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah. I love that movie. This led me to taking
on a few of his small pets, two different types
of hamsters, also bloodthirsty creatures, to emphasize our different views
on animals. I go out of my way to rescue animals,
no matter if I'm scared of them or not, while
he would rather see them suffer. What okay, Well, to
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be clear, I'm not saving a bear. I'm want to
see them suffer. I don't want it. I'm gonna look away.
But I'm not saving the bear because it kill me.
I'm not going up to the bear. But I'm calling in,
you know, someone.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
To save the bear.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Savings guys saying he'd go in and go It's okay.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
It's with that hamster.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Ah until how big cot fox Fox?
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I need anything that can kill me.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Fox, I'm saving the fox, saving the fox, for sure.
I can take a fox, right, yeah, possom, yeahssums can
get dangerous. Anything that can't rip me apart possum.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I had six Gerbils at the start of last year
from two different litters. Two of them are three years
old currently and four of them would be two years
old today.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Oh no, I do want to say. None of the
animals we said we didn't want to see, so that's something.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
A few months ago, I lost one of the two
year old Gerbils due to suspicious circumstances. The vett told
me he had been fed something he shouldn't have been,
and this was very strange to me because I'm so
careful with what's in and around their enclosure. I've always
been suspicious of my brother since then. I just I'm sorry.
I'm visualizing a little like Gerbil detective figuring out.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
I always knew there was something wrong about my brother.
Since Little Pity passed away under suspicious circumstances, I've been
on the trail ever since, sneaking around the shadows.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
It was actually for clues. It was actually one of
the other Gerbils. In this situation, she said, my brother.
So the Gerbils are spraming Op's youngest sibly the Gerbils perspective.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
He was talking about how he thinks his brother did it.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, but this is from Op's perspective. No, I was saying,
Gerbil detective like the Gerbil is the detective like a
toy story type situation, or G force or G force
when you say or in front of that movie. It
sounds kind of funny just putting it out there. The
second I brought my two year old Gerbils home, they
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would have been around four to six weeks old, he
threatened to throw them down the stairs. He has made
many more threats towards them since, and yesterday he finally
got his wish for context. We have three cats in
the house. Oh at least it's the circle of life,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Oh at least.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Uh, well, actually it might not be. This has made
me take extra precautions to make sure they can't get
to the The enclosure is taller than it needs to be,
and I have things around the base to ensure the
cats won't be able to see in. The cats weren't
allowed upstairs, so the door is always shut to my
room and to the stairs. Despite this, my brother always
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manages to let the cats up out of spite. My
gerbils were playing peacefully while my cat was gently opening
the door to my bedroom so I didn't notice him.
He lunged himself at the wall near the enclosure and
scared three of my younger gerbils. Gerbils, like many small creatures,
have tiny hearts. They've got a hard so cute though
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saying that.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
They've got tiny little hearts.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Is this about to be like a fainting goat situation?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I think they're probably pass away them.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
So this can be enough to unlive them. I launched
myself off my bed and grabbed my cat. I took
him downstairs and found my brother. I asked if he
had shut the door, and his response was they should
be allowed upstairs. It's not my fault you decided to
get gerbils. Now. Do I think think that the cat
should be able to scare the gerbils to death? No?
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Do I think the cats should be allowed upstairs? Yes?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Do I think maybe we shouldn't have gerbils and cats
in the house. If you if your gerbils can be
unlive by the cats.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Why why aren't the Gerbils in their fun little ball things?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, why aren't the gerb Why are the gerbils on
the ground? Why are the gerbils well, their ages on
the floor. Put them in a raised place.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Well, cats can jump. That wouldn't really help, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, but they make me. Give them a platform to
jump onto. You know, you can jump.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
It'd make me feel better.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
I just think if I knew I had a sibling
who was a psycho, and also I had diny little
creatures that could be hurt by the other creatures in
my house, I probably wouldn't get those tiny little creatures.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, i'd even like that, just hurt by the presence
of the cat. When I came upstairs, everything seemed okay.
They had stopped playing and were a little shaken up,
but with everything that happened, they seemed fine. They were
smoking a little gurbil cigarette.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Comment, Oh that was so scary.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Don't nobody smoke. It doesn't actually calm you down. They
had to deal with stress.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
It was just bubbles.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, they were just yeah. They had like a little
jurable candy.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Cigarets and one of them was gone. Do you think,
think let the door open. Who couldn't possibly.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Have been Riley just slamming the red light button over
there doesn't work anymore.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
That was relevant. That was relevant.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
This is too funny for us not to do. Okay.
I had an over the phone consultation with my local vet,
who told me to keep an eye on the Gerbils
for at least twelve hours. Sometimes it won't happen instantly
and could be delayed. I started watching the net of
flicks and kept checking them periodically. This is when I
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noticed one of my Gerbils suddenly becoming very slow. I
thought he might be tie it or something of the sort. However,
when I picked him up, he was limp oh no.
I tried everything to bring him back and wake him up,
but it was just too late. I couldn't do any more.
After the hour had passed and I had to say goodbye.
The Dribble was called Swiss and was only two years old. Hey,
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it's Sam. We're gonna get back to these stories. But
here's three of bits of bads from our sponsors that
keep the show alive. So sorry, I'm just thinking of
like doing tiny.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
That's sad.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
This is sad. This is sad.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
This is sad.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Would I be more sad if the cat had a
heart attack?
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Yes, all animals have equal value of life.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Dakota, Yeah, Dakota is factually incorrect, but we're gonna move on.
When I checked him moments before, he was fine. However,
shock can unlive a dribble almost instantly. At any point
within those twelve hours, at midnight, I found myself crying
at the table downstairs whilst wrapping my Gerbil up and
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putting him in a small box to bury in the garden.
My partner twenty mail, was on the phone with me
while this was all happening.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
This is really sad. It really sucks to lose like
any animal, you know. But I do think don't buy
any more Gerbils.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
True, you live in a house with cats that can
just I mean, the cats didn't even get to the gerbils,
just the presence of the You know what, I'm starting
to think that maybe your lack of building a tolerance
to the cat might be partially responsible for these gerbil
heart attacks, you know, because you got it. They got
a big dosa cat all at the same time.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
They'd never seen that cat.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
And it's like if you would have just trickled the
cat exposure in and then they would know, oh, I'm
in this cage. The cat is a non issue, this
large creature.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
I'm always very impressed by people who have like guinea
pigs and Gerbils and hamsters, because they seem to understand
them in ways that I just don't get. Like they'll
be whole them and the gerbil or the guinea pig
will be like and they're like, Oh, it's happy, and
then like two seconds later it's like and they're like,
oh it's angry. I'm like, what that durable just said
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the same thing.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
What do you mean.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
It's having a heart attack? What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I'm pretty sure if you saw a durable happy and
a durable having a heart attack, you know the difference.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I don't know. It might look very similar, Honestly, it.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Looks and when I said i'd just be like they
get scared or like happy, they look the same.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I'm remembering all of my hamster slash gerbil interactions I've
had in my life, and it is they're pretty pretty homogenous.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Theaters are like always like, oh, oh you can't hold it,
Oh you can. I likes that now, I'm like, what
do you mean, so I just never touch them because
I don't I'm scared of them.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
And demanded my brother pay for the gerbil I lost
due to his negligence when it comes to leaving doors
open that he has been told to shut. My mother
was not happy with this at all, neither would I be.
She called me into a room and told me that
it was all my fault and that they are my gerbils,
so I should be responsible for shutting doors in the house.
I tried to argue that it's impossible if I'm not
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aware my brother has left a door open on a
completely different floor of the house, but she was having
none of it. She told me to grow up and
leave them both alone. This morning, the argument started again.
She asked me if I was okay, and I simply
replied with no and carried on with my morning routine.
She scoffed and walked away. Then my brother came out
of his room and I reminded him of the money
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he now owes me ten pounds. She told him he
didn't owe me anything and to just ignore me. I
reminded both of them that I didn't even get an apology.
My brother went on to explain that he thought I
was lying about my gerbil being unalived and that I
just wanted the money. He told me he'd pay me
the money if I showed him proof. I told him
I wouldn't be digging up my beloved pet all for
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a bit of money. After a while of a screaming match,
he finally coughed up the money and told me to
leave it or he would unlive all of my Gerbils.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Okay, yikes.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Not a cool vibe. That my mother chipped in and said,
I'm lucky she doesn't boot me out of the house,
and kept reminding me that it was all my fault.
Which do I think it's all your fault? Now? Do
I think it could have been entirely prevented by you alone? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:23):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, Yeah, your brother didn't sneak in and throw the
cat in your room and then close the door while
you were gone. You were there, and.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Then, oh, PE's just upset. She last a pet.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
It's upsetting a little Durbil heart attack. My mother said
she would decide if I needed to leave when she
gets back from work. Yikes. Since she left, I've received
the money from my brother along with many threatening texts
from him and text from my mother telling me I'm
in the wrong and I shouldn't own pets. So here's
my question. Am I wrong for blaming my brother as
opposed to my cat for the passing of my gerbil?
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You're wrong on both of those.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Am I wrong for demanding my there pays me for
the loss of my beloved pet? Yeah? Kind of. But
should you be get kicked out because of this? But
also blame yourself? I'm sorry, I just you gotta blame yourself.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
I think that his reaction after everything of being like
I'm gonna unlive your other ones, that's crazy, not cool, right,
all of his reactions after not Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
You knew that your little gerbils had little hearts that
could be heart attacked, so maybe they shouldn't have been
in a cage on the ground where if the cat
got into your room, because even you know, accidents happened.
This definitely wasn't an accident, and he definitely let the
cat upstairs on purpose. But like, I don't know, close
your door, keep the door closed. Yeah, if you're aware
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that you own animals that are that delicate, then you
gotta own one. Hundred percent of the responsibility of keeping
them safe. Yeah, some small context for the story here.
I thought I would give a little bit more context
to clear up anything that may have needed more information.
My mother has always defended his behavior and always stood
by him. Sounds like she also doesn't like gerbils. My father,
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on the other hand, is lovely and has never meant
to do this. I don't live with my dad after
he got removed from the house the day he returned
home from his cancer surgery and month long stay in
the hospital.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
What way see, Okay, that you just said.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
You were gonna give us more information and you're not
gonna explain that.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
That's crazy. That's super relevant information to why your mom
is like, out of the blue trying to kick you
out or trying to punch you out of the house.
Now you're telling me that she already did that with
your dad because he was in the hospital for a month.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
What happened just well, just the cold heartedness that like
even if that's like he gets back from the hospital
after having cancer and then she's like, I can't do this.
It's like you're actually disgusting.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
Yeah, and I'm sorry to kick someone for sickness and health.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah right, well you're gross for that. If that's what that.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Was like, least maybe figure out some sort of live
in situation.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
First had an affair with the nurse something the doctor that.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Got no clue.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I don't know. Ah okay. I have two locks for
the bedroom door ordered, one being for the inside of
my bedroom door and the other for the outside, both
lockable with keys. I have yet to tell my mother
about this, however, I shall leave an update if I'll
go as well.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
See that's what I was thinking. That's the best way
to do this.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, just have a door that locks.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
As for moving out, I've been looking for places to stay,
but while still being in college, this is very difficult.
I'm hoping the lock will be enough while I'm waiting
for a place and a stable income I could live off.
To clear up any confusion about the cats living in
the house, we have a rule that applies to everyone
that they need to be shut downstairs and not allowed
in the bedroom section of the house. This is to
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prevent more than just harmed my gerbils. My brother seems
to be the only one that ignores this. The door
is very secure us. Yes, I know my animals are
my responsibility, and I fully accept that doesn't sound like it. However,
the cats don't belong to just me and are shared
with all three in the house, hence why we still
have a door to the hall leading to the stairs,
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which my brother refused to shut. My bedroom door had
only been left open to make sure the gerbils didn't
get heat stroke as it was nearing thirty five degrees
celsius in my room and it's important to keep the
room ventilated.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Then you gotta get them a little fan.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
You gotta do something.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
You gotta get them a little fan in there.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Small update and response to some comments. I was going
to tell my dad I wanted a lock put on
my door, but he called me to tell me he
was going to take me to a shop to get
a more sturdy lock for my door, pop lock and
drop it. Rather than having a lock on both sides
screwed in easy to just pull off of the door
or unscrew he was gonna get me a lock like
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our bathroom. It locks from both sides, keeping me away
from my brother more as well as the animals. It
works by having a herning lock for the inside, no
key required and a key for the outside, so I
can lock it while I'm not there. This means I
can also lock it while I'm asleep. It works by
locking the door handle up rather than something within the
door sliding like a normal house door. Thanks for that.
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I told my mother about the lock situation. She flipped.
She tried to hide it momentarily, and then when she
couldn't any longer, started screaming at me for thinking of
violating her home and that apparently I had no right.
I don't pay to live with her. She wanted me to,
but I told her that when I'm treated like a
human being, I would maybe give her a small cut. However,
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I told her no. After my brother started making more
threats about me and started actively convincing her to exile me,
there was some shame directed at me for bringing animals
into the situation in the comments. If I had known
my brother would be this bad, of course, I wouldn't
have gotten them in the first place. However, I couldn't
predict what was going to happen. Weeks and years after
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I had gotten them. There were no hints this would happen,
as he's never said he was going to harm an animal.
Let alone, unlive it, or purposely leave a door open
to try to achieve this. Okay, I think that's such
a stretch.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
I do think that you could have predicted a little.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Bit, yeah, to be like that, at least no way
I could.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Have known just that the cats might get into your
room and scare your gerbals. I feel like that could
have been predicted a little bit.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
I still don't feel like we're taking any responsibility for that. Yeah,
and your brother can also be bad, and you can
take responsibility for what happened.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
I feel like you need to move out. It seems
like nobody really wants you here, and that sucks.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
I don't think they can move out.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
I know, but I feel like we need to like.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Start trying hard, try hard to move out. I will, however,
take full responsibility for my door being open. I once
again couldn't have guessed that my brother would actually do
this knowing my door was open. There were reasons as
to why my door was open. It was to create
a small draft for the gerbils so they didn't get
too hot. If I could go back and change literally
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anything about all of this, it would be to shut
my door. No animal, lover, you ask, would honestly tell
you that they would have decided against getting an animal
because they love the pet weigh too much. However, in
that moment, if I had known, I would have heavily
weighed everything up and decided my dad's would have been
the best place to keep them. Before anyone asks, no,
I can't just move the gerbils. Now, this is an
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environment they're used to. They've also gotten used to me
and become very tame. If I suddenly move them, any
bond of trust and comfort I've built up would shatter. Hey,
it's John here. We're gonna get back to the stories.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Put a quick three minute ad break from our sponsors
that keep the show going.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Okay, well, I feel like we can still move them.
It just might take a little bit of work.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
I posit that if just moving them to your dad's
would obliterate any bond of trust or comfort that has
been built up, there's.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Not really anything there. Well I feel like not right, No, Well,
no gerbils in like from when I know about guinea pigs,
which I'm assuming they're somewhat similar, Like, yeah, they are
very finicky, and why are you what different?
Speaker 2 (45:07):
The gurbils have the ability to know you moved them,
and it's like you, my, my betrayer, I will not
give you the happy squeaks. Ever. Again, they're different. Grubles
are like this big, and guinea pigs are like.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
I'm aware, I'm I know it's size wise, they're different,
but I'm saying that they're they're demeanors.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Are sim would you say thing a fox and a parrot,
a fox and a ferret, fair a fox and right.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
My point is that with guinea pigs you can't, like
it's it's hard to just move them to different places.
You have to get them accustomed to them. However, when
the alternative is decease, when it's passing away, sorry, then
yeah you should move them.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
I'm just dying because there's all these comments being like
you can absolutely move Gerbil will do anything adverse to them.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
No, they might be like a little bit like scared
or something. But my point is like, there's no way
that that's harder than them like passing away.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Yeah, in your heat stroke room. Apparently Lisa Bumgartner was like,
I'm in vet school learning about all this right now,
and they are not that sensitive. This is overboard because.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Then you would never be able to bring them to
the vet if that were.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
It's like crazy, Yeah, I don't like it. Again, I'm
not liking anybody in this story right now. Okay, but
we're coming up to the end. Let's go. I moved
some gerbils in with my dad, my older three, so
I could decorate my room. I did this for a
week so the fumes could be let out and they
would be safe from the cats. When they came back,
they didn't recognize my smell or the smell of the room.
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They were unsettled for weeks and kept me up at night.
Slowly they built up some trust with me, but some
of their old habits never returned. For everyone telling me
to move out, that's the plan. However, I'm a student.
I need to finish my education for a good job
in order to support myself in the future. That's adorable.
Finishing college is the only way I'm going to be
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able to do that. My dad and I have planned
for me to move in for two years. My mother
booted him out after he got cancer, which led to
our relationship breaking down. So she did do that. She
sucked us aways. Your mom's for me and my dad's
planned to go ahead. I need money for a car.
My dad would charge me rent while I got settled,
and it wouldn't be like living with a parent, more
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like a bedsit or small flat with a landlord. The
whole of the upstairs wouldn't be mine. Just enough so
I have everything I need to live in the UK,
the prices for homes and to rent are getting worse
and worse each year.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Wow. Yeah, oh yeah, I don't know if you know
a lot about gurbils.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
HONEYB eighty five says gurbils are nocturnal.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
That's what I was saying.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Of course they will keep her away.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
My first thought was that every again. I only have
experience with guinea pigs, but they're off all night. I
don't understand.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
If I wanted to move out before I could, I
would end up miles away from my workplace, college, and
my partner, all while not being able to get a car.
I need to think logically about that rather than move
the second I have money for a house or flat,
which would also take a lot more time than if
I was just to move in with my dad, Get
a bike, get a bike, use a bus.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
Bike bike bus, publicize.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Get out of here, and then figure it out. You
do not have. There's no such thing as having everything
figured out right the perfect time, and then you do it.
Get out of the house, out, figure out the car situation.
Having to ride a bike every day will really motivate
you to get enough money to get a car. As
for the your twenty just move out comments, plenty of
twenty year olds have to live with their parents now
due to housing prices being so bad. If you're fresh
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out of UNI or college and are on minimum wage,
this just isn't affordable. Some unis even offer housing as
part of the price or give aid to students who
will be further from home and still have no other option.
After that, the majority of them move back in with
their parents. I haven't gotten any pets in over two years,
so I haven't gotten any more since this all started
to get worse. The cats are around ten and eleven
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years old. I didn't purchase them, so technically have no
say over what they do, but my mother does as
she was the one who purchased them. She is also
a terrible owner and has me paying for a ton
of the vet bills, or they wouldn't get specific treatments
they need to have. I am reminded of my lack
of ownership daily, and that is the end of that story.
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Sin stop being the vet bills.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
I'm sorry. If your mom says, hey, I need you
to pay rent, and your response was I'll pay rent
when I start getting treated like a human being, then
when she says, hey, I need you to pay for
the vet bills, then your response is I'll pay for
the vet bills when I own the cats. Why couldn't
you do that that time?
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Well, because it's like, oh he is, like it, wouldn't
they care about it?
Speaker 3 (49:57):
You gotta help the other Well, is she not pay
for them if you didn't.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
We have to be able to prioritize our ourself first.
We have to that money you're spending on vet bills
for the cats that you I guess, I mean, you
don't hate, but you're more pro Gerbil than you are
a pro cat.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
You gotta use that to move out.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
You gotta, Yeah, you gotta save the money, no excuses.
Go move in with your debt and pay that little
slice of rent and be further away from school, adjust
and be better than living with you know, in an
environment where you know, it seems like everyone's had to
get each other. Everyone's had to get you get out
of there.
Speaker 4 (50:38):
You are the Gerbil and they are the cats.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
So yeah, you don't want to have a tiny heart attack.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
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Uh so, Opie says. My dad and stepmom got married
almost five years ago, and I've become overwhelmed and exhausted
by the emotional effort required to maintain a relationship with
my father. While keeping things peaceful with stepmom. I live
with my mom in a different state than my dad.
I visit him three to four times a year, wanting
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nothing more than to spend quality time with my dad
and younger brothers. But without fail, every single visit in
the past five years, stepmom is thrown a complete fit.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Does does the fit go hard though?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, that's the question.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I feel intense anxiety about going to my dad's house.
It is made visiting my family incredibly difficult. I want
to see them often to maintain good relationships, but seeing
her stresses me out beyond explanation. Every visit. I do
my absolute best to be respectful and gauge her in conversations,
keep my space immaculate, run errands for her, and always
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express gratitude for anything she does for me. While I
show her respect, I may contain boundaries because she and
my dad had an affair.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Ooh, yike, yikes. I don't understand how a parent can
like expect a child to just be cool with that.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, they're like, yeah, she.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Done your mom here she is, She's gonna be in
charge of you.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
It's something I'm still working through, and I think it'll
take a lot of time to get past it is
made trusting both of them very difficult. I made it
clear that I will respect her, but I don't want
her to try and act like we're close or like
she's my mom, and that I don't want a tight
relationship with her at this time. I think that's reasonable,
though I understand why she wouldn't be happy about it.
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Despite making my boundaries clear, she always finds a way
to cross them, leaving me feeling defeated. Every trip follows
the same pattern. First, she's aggressively nice, offering me tons
of money, which I always refuse.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Take it. Take the money, Take that money.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Money. If she's gonna stomp all of your boundaries anyway,
take the money, take the money. I just be like,
this doesn't change anything.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, just don't even say that. Just take it and
know it changes.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Nothing, and telling me she's going to do everything for
me so I can relax. Over the next few days,
she gets frustrated because I won't open up as much
as she wants and realizes she can't buy my forgiveness
and affection. This is when she starts taking jabs at
my mom, calling my younger brothers her son's knowing this
bothers me and constantly asking my opinion just to disagree
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with me. I can tell she's on edge trying to
pick a fight, which makes me avoid her. That leads
her to tell my dad I'm being disrespectful and won't
acknowledge her, which isn't true. I just spend more time
in my room to avoid trouble. Stepmom bugs my dad
about how I'm not being nice to her, putting him
on edge too. Soon, both stepmom and my dad are
worked up and they usually get in a full blown
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rage fight while I'm there screaming, throwing things, stomping around,
and it makes me incredibly uncomfortable because I hate seeing
my dad upset and he's you usually irate with me
since I'm apparently the cause of her behavior. Great, yeah,
excellent parenting at your.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Faud clearly though your fault. All of this is your fault,
eighteen year old daughter, and not my fault for marrying
my affair partner.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
No surre, Glad we cleared that up. After the blowout,
things come down for a day or two with everyone
laying low, but soon enough, Stepmom regains energy to stop
sulking and continues pursuing ways to upset me. She constantly
needs attention and makes me feel like I have to
compete for my own dad. Through all this, I usually
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managed to push through to the end of my trip
with my sanity intact and without saying anything that would
further damage our relationship. My Thanksgiving trip was the breaking point.
All the usual drama had happened, but this time she
wouldn't leave me alone. Four days into my visit, she
was discussing religion with some missionaries she'd invited over from
my church. She'd always been vocal about having no interest
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my religion, and I'm perfectly okay with that. I just
want her to respect my beliefs, since my religion is
something I hold in high importance and cherished deeply. She
engaged with the missionaries and began making false accusations against
my church, knowing full well they were far fetched. I'm
convinced she said these things not to get the truth,
but to get a reaction from me. Finally, I couldn't
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help but scoff at her absurdity. I know this was
my mistake. I'm only human, and I immediately apologized for
my rudeness. Despite this, my scoff sent her into a
full tantrum. She screamed at me, telling me I needed
to humble myself. Ow dare I laugh at.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Her not being so funny?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
You're just too dang funny. You should get on stage
because you're a gosh darn comedian.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
You're just a little uh a diamond in the rough
with your humor.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Mmmmm, and that she hated me and wouldn't stop attacking
me with name calling and low blows. All I did
was scoff, I couldn't take it anymore and snapped. I
started yelling back and ended up calling her a witch
and telling her I hated her. This happened in front
of her guests, and I'm still embarrassed by this interaction.
Stepmom apologized the next day, telling me this was somehow
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my dad's fault and basically deflecting all accountability.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
This is actually your dad's falt for marrying me.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I know he wasn't there, but I mean, you know,
if you didn't have an affair, we would never have had.
This fight.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Is action the blood butterfly, first fish that crawled out
of the ocean. It's that it's its fault.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, certainly not mine.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
The first mitochondria. It's the mitochondria's fault, actually.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
The big Bang's fault. I didn't return the apology, which
upset her even more since she'd only apologize to get
one back from me. I left my Dad's feeling incredibly
bitter and sad. I'm exhausted by having to deal with
this petty drama who every single visit. I do my
best to stay out of it, but I'm only human
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and eventually reach my breaking point. Step mom has disrespected
my space and feelings every time I visit, and I
haven't done anything until that last visit to fuel an argument.
I don't see this cycle ever ending and feels so hopeless.
I don't want it to affect my relationship with my
dad that it already has. How could I move on
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from this mess? How can I communicate with someone as
unreasonable as her? How can I ensure my next visit
won't be full of drama? How do I have a
healthy relationship with my dad with the resentment I have
towards both of them? And what do I do next
time so I won't leave feeling hopeless and sad. Stepmom
is obviously insecure and it shows, making her almost impossible
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to reason with or communicate with. I really would appreciate
any advice offered. Thank you, and there is an update, folks.
But what's your advice for op.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I mean, like, it's hard when you're eighteen, but you
just have to care less about what this person who
ultimately like doesn't have any control over you anymore, like things,
you know, I feel that great advice, but it's like
literally just learning to like just be like, okay, yeah,
you just not ignore. Is your dad's not gonna divorce her?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah? I my advice if you know, if you still
want to be with like have time with your dad
is I mean, you're eighteen, so you don't have to
stay over at their house anymore. Maybe invite your dad
to do things outside of the house and just have that,
like a really frank conversation about you know, you just
can't have a relationship with your stepmom right now. It
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just isn't working. And I still want to have a
relationship with you, So let's figure out a way we
can do that outside of the house.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, if you do want that an yeah, I think
it should be pretty understandable to go like, hey, the
woman you cheated on my mom with I'm never gonna
really be cool with her. Yeah, and I don't think
she's gonna ever be cool with me because I won't
be cool with her. So what are you gonna do that?
Because you're also not the parent in this situation, you're
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the child, so you shouldn't have to be the one
managing all exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
But there is an update three years later. WHOA, Okay,
so we're about to find out probably exactly what OPI did.
When I now twenty one female was fourteen, my parents
divorced and my father forty five male, married his mistress
forty's female I'll nickname her Latoxica, three weeks after finalization.
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The very first time I stayed at my dad's house,
I was sitting in my room on my phone while
my dad was at work.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Dude, he married this woman three weeks after the divorce
was finalized. That's actually that's crazy. That's like I read that,
but I didn't absorb it.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I wouldn't be cool with my dad.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I would never be cool. I would be like, Dad,
I'm not coming to the wedding.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, did you go to the wedding? I'd be I'd
be so so uncool.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Latoxica came into my room asking if we could discuss
my parents de and I'd say.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
No, Oh, how you had homewrecked to my family.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
With my father? I politely said I don't feel up
to talking about it. Despite me setting that boundary, she
sat on my bed and told me the divorce wasn't
her fault and I had no right to blame her
for anything.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Hey, am going to blame you for not getting out
of my room right now?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Why are you in? I literally be like, sorry, why
are you in? Why are you in my room?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Like straight up, like why are you looking behind you?
Like what who are you talking to? Because it's not me.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I didn't even completely blame her. I knew there was
blame on my dad and even my mom. I told
her again I didn't want to talk about it, and
she said we had to talk about it. When I
refused again, I was forced to lock myself in the bathroom,
where she knocked on the door for over an hour
yelling at me to come out. Man, I literally would
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never forget that.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Lady me at eighteen that becomes a physical.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Well, this isn't when OP was eighteen.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Now, this has been there fourteen. Yeah, oh even more so.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah. After that incident, she's held a grudge against me
for not accepting her, despite the fact that I was
only fourteen and simply did not want to talk about
painful things at that time. Every visit since then, Latoxika
finds petty things to get angry about. She has a
clear double standard. My brothers leave stuff all over the
house and she picks up after them without complaints, but
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if I leave something out for a second, she accuses
me of doing it to piss her off.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
At that point, I'd be like, you're right, Yeah, you're right.
I'm doing this. Does it exclusively to upset you?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Is it working? Are you furious?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Every moment of every day is a calculation to make
you upset.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
When I was sixteen, Latoxika accused me of laughing at
her while she debated religion with guests. I wasn't even
the same room. I was texting friends with headphones in.
She demanded I come downstairs, where she screamed and humiliated
me in front of the guests. I eventually yelled back
and told her I hate you, which wasn't mature. You
were fourteen or sorry, sixteen, but still she yelled at
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you in front of a bunch of people, and then
you said I hate you. Seems warranted. During quarantine when
I was nineteen, I stayed at my dad's for a month.
He told me I could play his Nintendo Switch while
there no way. I asked everyone where it was and
they all said no idea. I spent hours looking for it.
The next day, my father told me his wife has
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been hiding it and lying because she didn't want me
to play it. I said it was super lame that
she would lie. I wouldn't have cared if she told
me I just couldn't play it. She overheard me and
threw the switch at me, saying she was sick of
my attitude. She threw the switch at you.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
If I was ope, I'm throwing him, there'd be there'd
be like a bell. There would have already been a
bell in the bathroom and on the door. I'm opening
that thing up, I'm saying, straight right, okay, and then
I'm back in the bathroom. I'm not advocating for that.
I'm just saying that's what I would have done at fourteen.
If my dad's mistress is screaming at me that I
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need to talk to her about how she's not to
blame for anything.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yi.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I responded, you didn't have to lie to me, that's all.
I apologize for disrespecting her in her house, and she responded,
remember this is my house, not yours. I'm pretty sure
it's my dad's pretty sure you're wrong about that, lady.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Hours later, she cornered me in the kitchens, screaming that
I was a hypocrite, that I'd lied before, so I
had no right to call her out.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
So the uppercut is you throw it with the elbow
tucked in right. It's a lot of bad job jab
and come up with the back.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I asked her to back off because she was upsetting me,
and she started condescendingly laughing, saying I'm not going to
back off in my house. I flipped her off, yelled
f you, and ran out. After that incident, I decided
to never fuel the fire again. I started putting maximum
effort into having a good relationship with her. I apologized
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for every single time I'd ever wronged her and let
go of the past, despite never receiving an apology. Back
in June, I cleaned the house multiple days, gave her compliments,
offered to help. Despite being nice, she was extremely critical
of how I dressed, telling me, all of our friends
think my family makes too much money for you to
be dressing like that. I even bought new clothes to
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please her. My boyfriend came for the part of the
trip and she liked him, so she was on better behavior.
After this trip, I felt like I could finally have peace.
Year's where it gets bad again. In October, my dad
took me to Florida with La Toxica and my younger
brother heck ensued, Oh no. When I met them at
the airport, she told me my outfit was horrible. I
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actually I'm wondering, like why did we go on this trip, because.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I think it's like, you know, it's kind of like
what I said about not caring, but instead it was
like the opposite. Instead of not caring, you're like, I
won't care to get mad. I'll just try to be
the peacemaker, which is kind of almost not caring but not.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Quite the problem is that when you try and do
everything to please her, you realize that she there is
nothing that you need to please her exactly because she's
just gonna keep raising the bar because she just doesn't
like you.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
If she's like, your outfit's horrible, I'm like, well, it
certainly is horrible to sleep with a married man. Yeah,
every time, not something I've ever done. Every time you
just hit her with that, Wow, where's my mom? I
don't see her, She's not you. Oh yeah, and then
just slept with my dad every time.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I didn't know it was expected to wear something nice
on a red eye flight.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, what is this like the fifties? Like everyone has
to wear.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Everyone's got to be messed up on your flights. You
never know who you gotta meet.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Dakota, you never know could be on that Howard Hues,
could be.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Flying that plane, would be Marlon Brando.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
We're flying twa so true.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
On the first night there, I was talking to my
aunt about my grandma and we were laughing about some
of her ridiculous antics. It wasn't serious, and I didn't
say anything hurtful about my grandma or anything I wouldn't
say to her face. These harmless comments about my grandma
triggered Latoxika the entire trip. She got angry at me
for the pettiest things, interjected every time I talked to
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my dad, and was extremely passive aggressive. She kept making
comments like I just love younger brother because he's genuine
while glaring at me.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I'd be like, I'm genuinely repulsed by you.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I genuinely hate you.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Like is your name Rita, rita repulsa? Uh aren't you
supposed to be on the Power Rangers TV show?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Oh? I was incredibly distraught and cried the whole trip
because I was so stressed. She would lash out at me.
I genuinely I feel like, if you're having these types
of stress reactions, don't go on trips with your stepmom.
If your dad says, hey, you want to come on
a trip with the family, you say, is Stepmom'm gonna
be there? And if he says yes, you go.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Well No, I feel like you're like one step removed
from like the Promised Land Nirvana of just being like
truly nothing you say holds.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Anything, you can't affect me.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
It's like, yeah, you are now the clown from it,
and I am not afraid of you anymore.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yep, you can.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
You can't get me.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
After the trip, she had no idea why I was
sad during it. You called me after one counseling session
to explain that she should have communicated better. But I
was the one in the wrong for criticizing my grandma.
You're not even related to her.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, i'd be like, so peace, Grandma, who are you
talking about?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I apologize because I wanted it to be over, But
I told my dad I would never go on vacation
with them again and that she would never regain my trust.
Last week, I was on the phone with my brother.
He had me on speakerphone but forgot to tell me.
During the conversation, something came up about toxica, and I
laughed and said she was so toxic. She was eavesdropping,
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and about an hour later sent me a text accusing
me of still trash talking about her. She claimed that
she had been nice to me for seven years, pointed
out that I had asked her for money just a
week prior, and said she thought we had resolved her issues.
The truth is I only ever asked her for money
because my dad supports me through college, but insists I
ask her instead of him. He says.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
She likes the acknowledgment, the acknowledgement of what just having
someone else's money.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
In reality, she's simply transferring me my dad's money, but
I have no choice but to go through her.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
You just asked me for money last week. Whose money
was that, you know?
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Was it your money?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Whose money was that?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I didn't realize that you just got all of my
father's assets.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Oh are you his employee? M oh so all of
I'm confused. I thought you guys got married after you
cheated with him. But no, I guess you're an employee.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Most of the time, I save up my own money
just to avoid interacting with her. I replied to her,
admitting that I shouldn't have said what I did. I
explained that I was having a private conversation with my brother,
but that it was still unacceptable. I told her I
wouldn't make excuses, but I didn't feel she had been
nice to me at all over the past seven years,
and that she had treated me in ways that were toxic.
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I admitted that I still resented her for mistreating me
in the past, but I shouldn't have said unkind things
and was sorry.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Bro, she was literally being the NSA on you right now.
She was spying on you. She said that in a
private conversation she sucks. You should be like, I'm sorry
you decided to eavesdrop and get your own feelings hurt.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I'm sorry that you are toxic, and I said that
you were toxic.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
You're doing it right now.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I mean, the sky's blue. What do you want me
to say? You want me to lie? I also told
her that I had only asked for money because my
dad told me to. She responded by saying she had
nothing else to say to me. Then she claimed that
in the past she had barely spoken to me and
suggested I must only remember the negative things, or maybe
if you're barely speaking to her, then every time you're
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speaking to her it's negative.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
She would have just said, I just would. After she
said I have nothing else to say to you, I
was to thank God.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I didn't think you were glad ever gonna shut up?
You just kept talking. She questioned when she had ever
been toxic to me, and claims she was trying to
remember any such time. Each of her texts were laced
with passive aggressive emojis. Her claims were completely false. I
didn't avoid speaking to her. She was the one who
constantly pestered me throughout my adolescence, forcing me into dozens
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of conversations I didn't want to have. I had no
idea where she was getting the idea that she barely
spoke to me. There is a little bit left to
this story. Do you have any final thoughts?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
She's like, when have I been toxic? I'd be like,
I don't know. I remember I was fourteen. I was
locked in the bathroom for an hour because you just
wanted to tell me that the affair wasn't your fault.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I think you just go through all the times that
you remember. You know, when I was fourteen, and when
some when I was sixteen, and when when I was
sixteen and a half eighteen.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Honestly, at the end of the day, all of this
is like if you because I would also have a
problem with my dad, I'd be like, if y'all had
like a shred of decency, y'all would have waited six
months before you got married, but you did it three
weeks after. You're literally garbage. I don't want anything to
do with you.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah. And also the fact that he keeps trying to
pressure Op into having a relationship with her stepmom. Yeah,
you know, like one he's trying to make Op go
on these trips together, making her ask her stepmom for money.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
And he's studying for school too, So it's like, I
guess you can't really yeah, obliterate that relationship, Yeah, but
certainly can't after school. Yes, And I'll go, wait, what
do you mean I paid for your school? He'd be like,
I wonder if this is how mom felt when she
found out you were cheating on her rug pull.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Just maybe, but there's a little bit left. I end
at the exchange by telling her that she should figure
it out on her own. I told her I had
endured abuse from her since the moment I met her,
wished her good luck, informed her I was blocking her,
and told her not to contact me again.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Good good job.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
But you got there. Took you a while, ten years,
we got there.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I would love to just bother her though, you know
what I mean, Like, I get it that the blocking
is the most peaceful. But she just talk to me,
and I just go like this, oh cheater, says what
what exactly? Was there something you said?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
After this conversation, my dad called to let me know
she was completely lost in crying because she had no
idea she was harmful and toxic. Well, then go to therapy.
If you don't have any self awareness, this is like, have.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
You heard like, you know, the performative male joke right now,
this is like the flip side of the performative male,
like the like the dark counterpart of the performative like
toxic a fair wife being like, oh my god, I'm
so distraught.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I didn't know I was toxic and no harmful, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
So upset about it. It's like, no, you're upset. You're
being called out on it. Literally.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I mean, from when she had the affair and NOP
was fourteen, she has asserted that she has not done
anything wrong, nothing.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
It's not my faults, not.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
My fault, and she just can't accept fault or blame
for anything. She told my brother she was sad I
would make up lies and trade her that way after
she'd been so nice to me. I told my dad
I didn't care and that she's a self absorbed person
I don't want in my life. I'm exhausted by the gas,
slighting and abuse, but my dad keeps telling me it's
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not that bad, it's not abuse. I want to maintain
no contact with her because I cannot see any solution.
Is there something I'm missing here?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
No?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Keep no contact?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, I mean you kinda are missing that it could
be really funny to just bother her incessantly, but that
is not the path of peace. No, and you can
maintain no contact. You're not ready. You're still twenty one.
You're not ready yet to fully just like bother this
person while everything that they say means nothing to you. Like,
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you're not there yet. You need a little more time
in the rock tumbler before you know, you get polished
to that level.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
So true, Oh pee, just keep tumbling, you'll get there.
We'll get there eventually. But that's the end of that story.
And we've got another one coming right up.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
I demanded money from my brother after my pet passed away.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Was he responsible?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Let's find out? I twenty female and my brother sixteen male.
I have never gotten along. This all started years ago,
when I was around ten. I don't know what's in
this story, but I'm putting a trigger warning for something
happening to a pet right now. If you're a person
who can't handle that, probably this is a risky story
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to listen to, because the next sentence is, I know
it's common for siblings not to get along, but this
kid is a psycho.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Oh no, that's not good. Get your pets out of there.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Our arguments were always very severe. And by the way,
this comes from user Amy Louver And if you want
to submit your own stories, go to the r slash
Okay storytime subred it. I'm Dakota, I'm Sophia, I'm Riley,
and Op says I have always been an animal lover.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I'm scared.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
I just hope it's not a turtle.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
What because he likes turtles woodles.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
I don't know anybody else. You get to pick one,
You get to pick one one pet. You hope it's not.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Oh, I hope it's not a dog.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Me as well. I hope you can't get mine. Yeah,
hope it not a bigger dog.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Okay, I don't know what size my dog was.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Fine, I hope it's not a cat. Okay, we've got cats,
turtles and dogs.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Are covered everything else. Sorry, And all.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Of my pets have lived long and happy lives up
to this point. He, on the other hand, is not
good with pets. All of his animals have turned on
each other through lack of care and research. He's running
the watership.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Down and cock fights in there.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Oh, it's the bunnies turning on each other, which actually
they will do that.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah. Yeah, that's the one passage that Dakota read from.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
No, No, I'm not even from Watership that like if
you bunnies will get aggressively violent.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Yeah, and apparently if you put pigs, horses and other
you know, animals on a farm, they will start like
communism or something.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
And that's it.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
And that's Watership down and.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
That's Watershed and animal Farm is actually about bunny.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah. I love that movie. This led me to taking
on a few of his small pets, two different types
of hamsters, also bloodthirsty creatures, to emphasize our different views
on animals. I go out of my way to rescue animals,
no matter if I'm scared of them or not, while
he would rather see them suffer. What okay, Well, to
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be clear, I'm not saving a bear. I'm want to
see them suffer. I don't want it. I'm gonna look away.
But I'm not saving the bear because it kill me.
I'm not going up to the bear. But I'm calling in,
you know, someone.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
To save the bear.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Savings guys saying he'd go in and go It's okay.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
It's with that hamster.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Ah until how big cot fox Fox?
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I need anything that can kill me.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Fox, I'm saving the fox, saving the fox, for sure.
I can take a fox, right, yeah, possom, yeahssums can
get dangerous. Anything that can't rip me apart possum.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I had six Gerbils at the start of last year
from two different litters. Two of them are three years
old currently and four of them would be two years
old today.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Oh no, I do want to say. None of the
animals we said we didn't want to see, so that's something.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
A few months ago, I lost one of the two
year old Gerbils due to suspicious circumstances. The vett told
me he had been fed something he shouldn't have been,
and this was very strange to me because I'm so
careful with what's in and around their enclosure. I've always
been suspicious of my brother since then. I just I'm sorry.
I'm visualizing a little like Gerbil detective figuring out.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
I always knew there was something wrong about my brother.
Since Little Pity passed away under suspicious circumstances, I've been
on the trail ever since, sneaking around the shadows.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
It was actually for clues. It was actually one of
the other Gerbils. In this situation, she said, my brother.
So the Gerbils are spraming Op's youngest sibly the Gerbils perspective.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
He was talking about how he thinks his brother did it.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, but this is from Op's perspective. No, I was saying,
Gerbil detective like the Gerbil is the detective like a
toy story type situation, or G force or G force
when you say or in front of that movie. It
sounds kind of funny just putting it out there. The
second I brought my two year old Gerbils home, they
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would have been around four to six weeks old, he
threatened to throw them down the stairs. He has made
many more threats towards them since, and yesterday he finally
got his wish for context. We have three cats in
the house. Oh at least it's the circle of life,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Oh at least.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Uh, well, actually it might not be. This has made
me take extra precautions to make sure they can't get
to the The enclosure is taller than it needs to be,
and I have things around the base to ensure the
cats won't be able to see in. The cats weren't
allowed upstairs, so the door is always shut to my
room and to the stairs. Despite this, my brother always
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manages to let the cats up out of spite. My
gerbils were playing peacefully while my cat was gently opening
the door to my bedroom so I didn't notice him.
He lunged himself at the wall near the enclosure and
scared three of my younger gerbils. Gerbils, like many small creatures,
have tiny hearts. They've got a hard so cute though
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saying that.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
They've got tiny little hearts.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Is this about to be like a fainting goat situation?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I think they're probably pass away them.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
So this can be enough to unlive them. I launched
myself off my bed and grabbed my cat. I took
him downstairs and found my brother. I asked if he
had shut the door, and his response was they should
be allowed upstairs. It's not my fault you decided to
get gerbils. Now. Do I think think that the cat
should be able to scare the gerbils to death? No?
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Do I think the cats should be allowed upstairs? Yes?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Do I think maybe we shouldn't have gerbils and cats
in the house. If you if your gerbils can be
unlive by the cats.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Why why aren't the Gerbils in their fun little ball things?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, why aren't the gerb Why are the gerbils on
the ground? Why are the gerbils well, their ages on
the floor. Put them in a raised place.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Well, cats can jump. That wouldn't really help, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, but they make me. Give them a platform to
jump onto. You know, you can jump.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
It'd make me feel better.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
I just think if I knew I had a sibling
who was a psycho, and also I had diny little
creatures that could be hurt by the other creatures in
my house, I probably wouldn't get those tiny little creatures.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, i'd even like that, just hurt by the presence
of the cat. When I came upstairs, everything seemed okay.
They had stopped playing and were a little shaken up,
but with everything that happened, they seemed fine. They were
smoking a little gurbil cigarette.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Comment, Oh that was so scary.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Don't nobody smoke. It doesn't actually calm you down. They
had to deal with stress.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
It was just bubbles.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, they were just yeah. They had like a little
jurable candy.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Cigarets and one of them was gone. Do you think,
think let the door open. Who couldn't possibly.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Have been Riley just slamming the red light button over
there doesn't work anymore.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
That was relevant. That was relevant.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
This is too funny for us not to do. Okay.
I had an over the phone consultation with my local vet,
who told me to keep an eye on the Gerbils
for at least twelve hours. Sometimes it won't happen instantly
and could be delayed. I started watching the net of
flicks and kept checking them periodically. This is when I
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noticed one of my Gerbils suddenly becoming very slow. I
thought he might be tie it or something of the sort. However,
when I picked him up, he was limp oh no.
I tried everything to bring him back and wake him up,
but it was just too late. I couldn't do any more.
After the hour had passed and I had to say goodbye.
The Dribble was called Swiss and was only two years old. Hey,
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it's Sam. We're gonna get back to these stories. But
here's three of bits of bads from our sponsors that
keep the show alive. So sorry, I'm just thinking of
like doing tiny.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
That's sad.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
This is sad. This is sad.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
This is sad.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Would I be more sad if the cat had a
heart attack?
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Yes, all animals have equal value of life.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Dakota, Yeah, Dakota is factually incorrect, but we're gonna move on.
When I checked him moments before, he was fine. However,
shock can unlive a dribble almost instantly. At any point
within those twelve hours, at midnight, I found myself crying
at the table downstairs whilst wrapping my Gerbil up and
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putting him in a small box to bury in the garden.
My partner twenty mail, was on the phone with me
while this was all happening.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
This is really sad. It really sucks to lose like
any animal, you know. But I do think don't buy
any more Gerbils.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
True, you live in a house with cats that can
just I mean, the cats didn't even get to the gerbils,
just the presence of the You know what, I'm starting
to think that maybe your lack of building a tolerance
to the cat might be partially responsible for these gerbil
heart attacks, you know, because you got it. They got
a big dosa cat all at the same time.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
They'd never seen that cat.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
And it's like if you would have just trickled the
cat exposure in and then they would know, oh, I'm
in this cage. The cat is a non issue, this
large creature.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
I'm always very impressed by people who have like guinea
pigs and Gerbils and hamsters, because they seem to understand
them in ways that I just don't get. Like they'll
be whole them and the gerbil or the guinea pig
will be like and they're like, Oh, it's happy, and
then like two seconds later it's like and they're like,
oh it's angry. I'm like, what that durable just said
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the same thing.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
What do you mean.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
It's having a heart attack? What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I'm pretty sure if you saw a durable happy and
a durable having a heart attack, you know the difference.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I don't know. It might look very similar, Honestly, it.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Looks and when I said i'd just be like they
get scared or like happy, they look the same.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I'm remembering all of my hamster slash gerbil interactions I've
had in my life, and it is they're pretty pretty homogenous.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Theaters are like always like, oh, oh you can't hold it,
Oh you can. I likes that now, I'm like, what
do you mean, so I just never touch them because
I don't I'm scared of them.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
And demanded my brother pay for the gerbil I lost
due to his negligence when it comes to leaving doors
open that he has been told to shut. My mother
was not happy with this at all, neither would I be.
She called me into a room and told me that
it was all my fault and that they are my gerbils,
so I should be responsible for shutting doors in the house.
I tried to argue that it's impossible if I'm not
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aware my brother has left a door open on a
completely different floor of the house, but she was having
none of it. She told me to grow up and
leave them both alone. This morning, the argument started again.
She asked me if I was okay, and I simply
replied with no and carried on with my morning routine.
She scoffed and walked away. Then my brother came out
of his room and I reminded him of the money
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he now owes me ten pounds. She told him he
didn't owe me anything and to just ignore me. I
reminded both of them that I didn't even get an apology.
My brother went on to explain that he thought I
was lying about my gerbil being unalived and that I
just wanted the money. He told me he'd pay me
the money if I showed him proof. I told him
I wouldn't be digging up my beloved pet all for
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a bit of money. After a while of a screaming match,
he finally coughed up the money and told me to
leave it or he would unlive all of my Gerbils.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Okay, yikes.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Not a cool vibe. That my mother chipped in and said,
I'm lucky she doesn't boot me out of the house,
and kept reminding me that it was all my fault.
Which do I think it's all your fault? Now? Do
I think it could have been entirely prevented by you alone? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:23):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, Yeah, your brother didn't sneak in and throw the
cat in your room and then close the door while
you were gone. You were there, and.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Then, oh, PE's just upset. She last a pet.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
It's upsetting a little Durbil heart attack. My mother said
she would decide if I needed to leave when she
gets back from work. Yikes. Since she left, I've received
the money from my brother along with many threatening texts
from him and text from my mother telling me I'm
in the wrong and I shouldn't own pets. So here's
my question. Am I wrong for blaming my brother as
opposed to my cat for the passing of my gerbil?
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You're wrong on both of those.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Am I wrong for demanding my there pays me for
the loss of my beloved pet? Yeah? Kind of. But
should you be get kicked out because of this? But
also blame yourself? I'm sorry, I just you gotta blame yourself.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
I think that his reaction after everything of being like
I'm gonna unlive your other ones, that's crazy, not cool, right,
all of his reactions after not Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
You knew that your little gerbils had little hearts that
could be heart attacked, so maybe they shouldn't have been
in a cage on the ground where if the cat
got into your room, because even you know, accidents happened.
This definitely wasn't an accident, and he definitely let the
cat upstairs on purpose. But like, I don't know, close
your door, keep the door closed. Yeah, if you're aware
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that you own animals that are that delicate, then you
gotta own one. Hundred percent of the responsibility of keeping
them safe. Yeah, some small context for the story here.
I thought I would give a little bit more context
to clear up anything that may have needed more information.
My mother has always defended his behavior and always stood
by him. Sounds like she also doesn't like gerbils. My father,
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on the other hand, is lovely and has never meant
to do this. I don't live with my dad after
he got removed from the house the day he returned
home from his cancer surgery and month long stay in
the hospital.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
What way see, Okay, that you just said.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
You were gonna give us more information and you're not
gonna explain that.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
That's crazy. That's super relevant information to why your mom
is like, out of the blue trying to kick you
out or trying to punch you out of the house.
Now you're telling me that she already did that with
your dad because he was in the hospital for a month.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
What happened just well, just the cold heartedness that like
even if that's like he gets back from the hospital
after having cancer and then she's like, I can't do this.
It's like you're actually disgusting.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
Yeah, and I'm sorry to kick someone for sickness and health.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah right, well you're gross for that. If that's what that.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Was like, least maybe figure out some sort of live
in situation.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
First had an affair with the nurse something the doctor that.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Got no clue.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I don't know. Ah okay. I have two locks for
the bedroom door ordered, one being for the inside of
my bedroom door and the other for the outside, both
lockable with keys. I have yet to tell my mother
about this, however, I shall leave an update if I'll
go as well.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
See that's what I was thinking. That's the best way
to do this.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, just have a door that locks.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
As for moving out, I've been looking for places to stay,
but while still being in college, this is very difficult.
I'm hoping the lock will be enough while I'm waiting
for a place and a stable income I could live off.
To clear up any confusion about the cats living in
the house, we have a rule that applies to everyone
that they need to be shut downstairs and not allowed
in the bedroom section of the house. This is to
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prevent more than just harmed my gerbils. My brother seems
to be the only one that ignores this. The door
is very secure us. Yes, I know my animals are
my responsibility, and I fully accept that doesn't sound like it. However,
the cats don't belong to just me and are shared
with all three in the house, hence why we still
have a door to the hall leading to the stairs,
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which my brother refused to shut. My bedroom door had
only been left open to make sure the gerbils didn't
get heat stroke as it was nearing thirty five degrees
celsius in my room and it's important to keep the
room ventilated.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Then you gotta get them a little fan.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
You gotta do something.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
You gotta get them a little fan in there.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Small update and response to some comments. I was going
to tell my dad I wanted a lock put on
my door, but he called me to tell me he
was going to take me to a shop to get
a more sturdy lock for my door, pop lock and
drop it. Rather than having a lock on both sides
screwed in easy to just pull off of the door
or unscrew he was gonna get me a lock like
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our bathroom. It locks from both sides, keeping me away
from my brother more as well as the animals. It
works by having a herning lock for the inside, no
key required and a key for the outside, so I
can lock it while I'm not there. This means I
can also lock it while I'm asleep. It works by
locking the door handle up rather than something within the
door sliding like a normal house door. Thanks for that.
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I told my mother about the lock situation. She flipped.
She tried to hide it momentarily, and then when she
couldn't any longer, started screaming at me for thinking of
violating her home and that apparently I had no right.
I don't pay to live with her. She wanted me to,
but I told her that when I'm treated like a
human being, I would maybe give her a small cut. However,
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I told her no. After my brother started making more
threats about me and started actively convincing her to exile me,
there was some shame directed at me for bringing animals
into the situation in the comments. If I had known
my brother would be this bad, of course, I wouldn't
have gotten them in the first place. However, I couldn't
predict what was going to happen. Weeks and years after
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I had gotten them. There were no hints this would happen,
as he's never said he was going to harm an animal.
Let alone, unlive it, or purposely leave a door open
to try to achieve this. Okay, I think that's such
a stretch.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
I do think that you could have predicted a little.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Bit, yeah, to be like that, at least no way
I could.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Have known just that the cats might get into your
room and scare your gerbals. I feel like that could
have been predicted a little bit.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
I still don't feel like we're taking any responsibility for that. Yeah,
and your brother can also be bad, and you can
take responsibility for what happened.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
I feel like you need to move out. It seems
like nobody really wants you here, and that sucks.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
I don't think they can move out.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
I know, but I feel like we need to like.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Start trying hard, try hard to move out. I will, however,
take full responsibility for my door being open. I once
again couldn't have guessed that my brother would actually do
this knowing my door was open. There were reasons as
to why my door was open. It was to create
a small draft for the gerbils so they didn't get
too hot. If I could go back and change literally
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anything about all of this, it would be to shut
my door. No animal, lover, you ask, would honestly tell
you that they would have decided against getting an animal
because they love the pet weigh too much. However, in
that moment, if I had known, I would have heavily
weighed everything up and decided my dad's would have been
the best place to keep them. Before anyone asks, no,
I can't just move the gerbils. Now, this is an
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environment they're used to. They've also gotten used to me
and become very tame. If I suddenly move them, any
bond of trust and comfort I've built up would shatter. Hey,
it's John here. We're gonna get back to the stories.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Put a quick three minute ad break from our sponsors
that keep the show going.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Okay, well, I feel like we can still move them.
It just might take a little bit of work.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
I posit that if just moving them to your dad's
would obliterate any bond of trust or comfort that has
been built up, there's.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Not really anything there. Well I feel like not right, No, Well,
no gerbils in like from when I know about guinea pigs,
which I'm assuming they're somewhat similar, Like, yeah, they are
very finicky, and why are you what different?
Speaker 2 (45:07):
The gurbils have the ability to know you moved them,
and it's like you, my, my betrayer, I will not
give you the happy squeaks. Ever. Again, they're different. Grubles
are like this big, and guinea pigs are like.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
I'm aware, I'm I know it's size wise, they're different,
but I'm saying that they're they're demeanors.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Are sim would you say thing a fox and a parrot,
a fox and a ferret, fair a fox and right.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
My point is that with guinea pigs you can't, like
it's it's hard to just move them to different places.
You have to get them accustomed to them. However, when
the alternative is decease, when it's passing away, sorry, then
yeah you should move them.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
I'm just dying because there's all these comments being like
you can absolutely move Gerbil will do anything adverse to them.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
No, they might be like a little bit like scared
or something. But my point is like, there's no way
that that's harder than them like passing away.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Yeah, in your heat stroke room. Apparently Lisa Bumgartner was like,
I'm in vet school learning about all this right now,
and they are not that sensitive. This is overboard because.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Then you would never be able to bring them to
the vet if that were.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
It's like crazy, Yeah, I don't like it. Again, I'm
not liking anybody in this story right now. Okay, but
we're coming up to the end. Let's go. I moved
some gerbils in with my dad, my older three, so
I could decorate my room. I did this for a
week so the fumes could be let out and they
would be safe from the cats. When they came back,
they didn't recognize my smell or the smell of the room.
(46:53):
They were unsettled for weeks and kept me up at night.
Slowly they built up some trust with me, but some
of their old habits never returned. For everyone telling me
to move out, that's the plan. However, I'm a student.
I need to finish my education for a good job
in order to support myself in the future. That's adorable.
Finishing college is the only way I'm going to be
(47:14):
able to do that. My dad and I have planned
for me to move in for two years. My mother
booted him out after he got cancer, which led to
our relationship breaking down. So she did do that. She
sucked us aways. Your mom's for me and my dad's
planned to go ahead. I need money for a car.
My dad would charge me rent while I got settled,
and it wouldn't be like living with a parent, more
(47:37):
like a bedsit or small flat with a landlord. The
whole of the upstairs wouldn't be mine. Just enough so
I have everything I need to live in the UK,
the prices for homes and to rent are getting worse
and worse each year.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Wow. Yeah, oh yeah, I don't know if you know
a lot about gurbils.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
HONEYB eighty five says gurbils are nocturnal.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
That's what I was saying.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Of course they will keep her away.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
My first thought was that every again. I only have
experience with guinea pigs, but they're off all night. I
don't understand.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
If I wanted to move out before I could, I
would end up miles away from my workplace, college, and
my partner, all while not being able to get a car.
I need to think logically about that rather than move
the second I have money for a house or flat,
which would also take a lot more time than if
I was just to move in with my dad, Get
a bike, get a bike, use a bus.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
Bike bike bus, publicize.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Get out of here, and then figure it out. You
do not have. There's no such thing as having everything
figured out right the perfect time, and then you do it.
Get out of the house, out, figure out the car situation.
Having to ride a bike every day will really motivate
you to get enough money to get a car. As
for the your twenty just move out comments, plenty of
twenty year olds have to live with their parents now
due to housing prices being so bad. If you're fresh
(48:53):
out of UNI or college and are on minimum wage,
this just isn't affordable. Some unis even offer housing as
part of the price or give aid to students who
will be further from home and still have no other option.
After that, the majority of them move back in with
their parents. I haven't gotten any pets in over two years,
so I haven't gotten any more since this all started
to get worse. The cats are around ten and eleven
(49:14):
years old. I didn't purchase them, so technically have no
say over what they do, but my mother does as
she was the one who purchased them. She is also
a terrible owner and has me paying for a ton
of the vet bills, or they wouldn't get specific treatments
they need to have. I am reminded of my lack
of ownership daily, and that is the end of that story.
(49:36):
Sin stop being the vet bills.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
I'm sorry. If your mom says, hey, I need you
to pay rent, and your response was I'll pay rent
when I start getting treated like a human being, then
when she says, hey, I need you to pay for
the vet bills, then your response is I'll pay for
the vet bills when I own the cats. Why couldn't
you do that that time?
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Well, because it's like, oh he is, like it, wouldn't
they care about it?
Speaker 3 (49:57):
You gotta help the other Well, is she not pay
for them if you didn't.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
We have to be able to prioritize our ourself first.
We have to that money you're spending on vet bills
for the cats that you I guess, I mean, you
don't hate, but you're more pro Gerbil than you are
a pro cat.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
You gotta use that to move out.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
You gotta, Yeah, you gotta save the money, no excuses.
Go move in with your debt and pay that little
slice of rent and be further away from school, adjust
and be better than living with you know, in an
environment where you know, it seems like everyone's had to
get each other. Everyone's had to get you get out
of there.
Speaker 4 (50:38):
You are the Gerbil and they are the cats.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
So yeah, you don't want to have a tiny heart attack.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
But that's the end of that story and the end
of this episode. So if you love us, make sure
to subscribe.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
We love you and see you tomorrow.
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