My fiancé CALLED OFF our wedding… because of our financial difference! | Reddit Stories | EP2156 - ok storytime

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is jonnas is Sam your og Okay Storytime
podcast hosts. We have some great stories coming up, but
before that, we have a quick two minute break from
the sponsors that keep the show alive. My fiance called
off our wedding because of our financial differences. It's just
too expensive, too expensive these days. By the way, this
comes from the r sash okay starting Time subbred were

(00:20):
my own, so I will be using fake names just
for privacy. Also, Kara with a CE is on Reddit
and I have her permission to share the story just
to make sure that I can seal their identities. Last October,
my husband Luke thirty five male and I thirty four female,
got invited to an engagement dinner party of his besty
fiance Kara thirty two female and her fiance Steven thirty

(00:43):
four male. By the way, this comes from Hikari Sakura
and if you want to submit your own stories, go
to the r slash okay storytime subreddits like this one
is from It's one of our very own. For context,
my husband and Kara are best friends and they both
work as er nurses for eight years now in the
same hospital. Steven, he's an EMT and is currently going
to nursing school in twenty twenty, during the peak of

(01:04):
the pandemic, and they started dating just a few months
after meeting. We're very happy for both of them, and
we both think she finally found someone who matches her quirky,
in fun attitude. We even helped Stephen play in the
proposal during a camping trip. We both helped organize, as
uncomfortable as I am to discuss this. This will be
important to address. Kara has her own apartment now, but

(01:26):
she remains really close to her family, who live in
a very affluent Newport Beach neighborhood. oOoOO Vetti fancy. Her
mom is a nurse practitioner and her dad is a
cosmetic surgeon. Her older twin sisters are corporate lawyers. Dude,
twin sister corporate lawyers? Crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Do they work together? That would be why, thank Johnson
and Johnson. We're not the same person, We're different. What're
different for you, twin sister?

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Corporate lawyers sounds like a TV show, a fake TV
show inside of a real TV show.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, ye yes.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Kara herself will be enrolling in the nurse practitioner program
and we even spoke about probably doing it together in
the future when I graduate from nursing this year. Needless
to say, Kara came from a family of high achievers
and money, but despite all of that, she and her
family remain humble and down the earth. These details are
important to note. Steven, on the other hand, grew up

(02:25):
with six other siblings and a single mother who had
to work multiple jobs to get by and had to
take a student loan for education, like the most of us,
unlike Kara, who graduated without any student loan and got
gifted with a luxury car as a graduation gift. Very
She's got that money, big sch money. Let me be clear,

(02:45):
there is nothing wrong with how Stephen lived, as he
is like most of us. Also nothing wrong with how
Kara grew up. They are both kind people, and I
thought that they would make a very good couple. You
thought wrong, but I caught that opie. Going back to
the engagement party that was held at Kara's family home,
everyone was so happy to see them together. Steven's family

(03:06):
came by and they met Kara's family, who treated them
like they were family already. Kara's mom and I are
both introverts, so we went ahead and sat by the
pool where we spoke about life. They attended my own
wedding years ago, and how happy we are that her
daughter is finally setting down with the man who they
think will love her dearly and sincerely.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I do want to say I was really worried that
this was going to be about Opee, like someone leaving Opee. Yeah,
because it's one of our own. And I was like, oh,
oh no, but it's not. I mean, obviously still about
someone you care about, but yes, at least it's not.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
We're glad your relationship is safe. Ope, And just like that,
the wedding planning began. Save the date was June twenty
eighth birthday. Wait, that's this month, that's this month, that's
this month. It hasn't even happened.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
It hasn't even happened yet. It's one day before my body.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
We are talking about the future day pre sophia birthday.
Future that is now. Fast forward to last Saturday, when
Luke received a phone call from Kara. Whilst crying, she
who's Luke? Again?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
That's a good question, yes, in one I don't know
the answer to.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Let's use this Who's Luke? I have a feeling like
This might have been the first time he was mentioned
and just like plopped in there. Oh, Luke is a
husband of the narrator in the story, who is the
thirty five year one.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Okay, they're out killing it, dingus.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
I think that's the first time I've seen it work.
Let's I've seen it work a couple of times. There
we go. But I'm proud of it. Nonetheless, that was
so helpful, shout out Dingaspot. She asked if she could
come to our home and talk to us Luke. Opie's
husband is on medical leave after an appendectomy, so they
haven't seen each other in a week. I heard her
distressed voice, so I asked if she wanted me to

(04:51):
pick her up from her apartment, and she said okay.
I drove over to her apartment and saw her with
her hair all unkempt and her face was swollen from
I'm crying. She immediately hugged me and cried all over again. No,
I have a sense something might be wrong. I sat
her down on the couch and grabbed a glass of

(05:12):
water for her to drink. As soon as she calmed
down a little bit, she started telling me that no
wedding was going to happen. I was shocked and asked
what happened, and she said, she just wants to have
someone to talk to. So I told her that she
can stay in our spare room for as long as
she wants. Can't leave Luke, who's recovering from surgery, so
she has to move in with us, and she said okay.

(05:33):
I helped pack up some of her clothes and necessities,
and I drove her to our home and had her
settle in our guest room. There. She told us she
needed to sleep first and she'll eventually talk to us.
We didn't force her, but we did tell her that
she can talk to us at any time she's ready,
and she thanked us. She slept for a few hours,
and Luke and I were concerned. I mean I would

(05:55):
be too. It's like, hey, I'm canceling the wedding. I
don't want to live here. And so she's just like
at your place now, just like sleeping, sleeping, And of
course it's like, you know, if she's distressed, like hey,
take your time, But I'd be like, man, what what
is going on? Like I'd be talking to my partner
like yeah, But we let her restaurant now as she
looked like she needed it badly. We tried calling Steven,

(06:16):
but he wasn't picking up, and we were getting concerned
if he was okay or whatever. When she woke up,
I offered her some toiletries so she could shower and
freshen up. I also ordered her favorite food so we
could all eat together. Op Opi is Opie's thinking ten
steps ten steps ahead, clutch friend and obviously obviously part
of the community. We already we already knew Opi was
going to be amazing. True, it was after we ate

(06:37):
when she told us what happened. Stephen and Kara did
break up and the wedding got canceled. Oof. She told
us that ever since the engagement party, Steven had been
acting very insecure towards her family, but she never spoke
about it to anyone, thinking it would just drive him
further away.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
And she's comes from a really wealthy family and he
does not. Right, It's the that's it's super tough, because
in either direction, money can be very divisive. Yeah, because
like you know, you can have families who are very
rich and look down upon a person who is, like,
you know, lower income background. But then on the other

(07:19):
side you have like people that can never get over
that kind of not necessarily jealousy, but like other ring
they're like I am never gonna be that. I never
had that, Yeah, like I can never understand you life.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
It could also be the classic like male like, oh
I'm not the they're like wealthier than me, I'm not
like that inadequacy, big family, breadwinner, whatever, and then that
insecurity just drives them to be yeah dumbos. Plus, the
stress of the wedding planning was also overwhelming her. Her
family offered to pay for all of the wedding expenses,
but she said she didn't want them to take full

(07:53):
financial responsibility, so they settled that her parents and siblings
would pay fifty percent of the expenses, while Kara and
Steven would take care of the other half. Apparently, this
made Stephen feel awful and said that she made him
feel inadequate. Right, exactly what I said, Like he can't
provide her with the wedding she wanted. When asked how

(08:16):
she could make it right, he just said nothing could
be done anymore because it's already a fact that he
grew up in poverty while she came from money.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
He said that he said that, dude, like, why are
you letting your pride and your you're I don't know,
jealousy get in the way of this clearly good relationship.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, also, you got a wedding for half off my guys.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Why I really don't understand. I understand why people don't
want to take handouts and stuff, but like, I don't know,
like you're really letting. You're allowed to say, hey, like
I don't want to fully take all of this, like
you can you can say no, don't break up over it. Yeah,
you know, maybe maybe your maybe your thing is, hey,

(09:01):
I don't feel super comfortable accepting that much money. Let's
have maybe like let's have a smaller wedding.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah's and then you work.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
At a compromise. Maybe it's like her saying, you know what,
like I would love to have some of my family
members come and you know where they're willing to chip
in to like have that. Yeah, like compromise. It doesn't
have to be the end. But he's so like he's
got all this like machismo, yeah, attitude about like oh.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
I have to be the man er and you know
what too, He's probably like I can't downsize the wedding
because she grew up in all this crazy stuff and
now she has to have like the biggest thing ever.
And yeah, I feel at least I don't know what
it is about weddings where people are like, oh, there's
no middle ground. This has to be the way it is.
We read a story recently where they were hosting their
their wedding in Dubai and had they're like, oh, this

(09:47):
is the quote unquote you know, mandatory hotel to stay
at and it was like four grand and the parents
were like, hey, we can't make it so like, oh,
the parents aren't coming to the wedding. It's like, dude,
let them stay in a different hotel. Literally literally, if
you had just done that, I mean forget even moving locations,
which also could have been smart. Just let them stay
at a cheap hotel they can afford, and boom, they
can come to the wedding and it's not an issue. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
No, he literally could have just talked to her. He's
just assuming. He's assuming that she wants the wedding exactly
this way and is not willing to compromise without asking.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Not cool, dude. Yeah. Kara's dad also politely offered to
pay off his nursing tuition and the loans he made
since he's already part of the family and he wants
them to start their married life with less stress. But
he nicely declined, saying that since he's working, it wasn't
an issue, which is fine, I know, yeah, yeah, totally,
But while the whole conversation was polite, it made Steven

(10:40):
feel like he was useless.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
That's like a therapy thing, yes, unless they are actually
being rude saying like, oh, like we look down at
you because you have this background and because you make
less money. Yeah, then you are creating these problems in
your mind, which obviously maybe you have like some you
know upbringing that like has created these mental issues. Yeah,

(11:06):
problems that you're creating a run, But that's what therapies were, Yes,
don't put that on your partner.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
And yeah, maybe again maybe the upbringing kind of was
kind of what grew some of these problems, but it
is our which is, you know, you didn't ask to
grow up the way he did, but it is ultimately
our responsibility to work on those things. So many other
stories to mention, but it all ended with Stephen becoming
more and more insecure to a point that he started

(11:32):
developing resentment towards Kara and her family. It also didn't
help that Stephen's coworkers were teasing him during their party
that he's so lucky that he found his ultimate meal
ticket with Kara's family, that he won't have to worry
about anything once the marriage contract is filed.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Which then you realize, Oh, these people around me who
are saying this are not my friends. Yes, they are
making fun of me. Yeah, they are not people I
want to have in my life anymore. Not like, oh, they're.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Right, I have to leave Kara. Yeah? Right. Do you
wanna keep the friends who are like belittaling you and
making jokes about your life? Or do you want to
stay with the woman you decided to spend your life with. Yeah,
you're marrying your stupid friends. Yep. They kept telling him
that he's such a lucky guy with a rags to
richest story. Wow, his friend sucks. Come on man. From

(12:21):
Kara's side of the story, all these engagement and wedding
plan events made Steven spiral down into a deep depression,
basically being mentally dragged down by his own insecurities. I
felt so bad for Kara and her family, who really
didn't look down on him and his family in any way,
but also felt horrible for Steven because in a way,
I do understand how he felt. The final straw was

(12:42):
the night before Stephen came over to her apartment and
they started discussing their honeymoon. Stephen said that he couldn't
afford to pay his share of the honeymoon expenses just
yet because he had to help his family financially right now.
She responded by saying that she could pay for it
now and he could pay her once he's capable of
doing so. Stephen apparently just went silent, went to the
bathroom for a few minutes, and told her that he

(13:05):
couldn't marry her and that she should date someone who
was rich as well.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Literally could have just had a conversation with her and said, Hey,
I don't feel super comfortable with people, you know, not
in art like that? Are not you?

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Paying for everything? I want to feel a sense of independence,
and so instead of you know, paying for this super
expensive thing, could we instead pay for something a little
bit more manageable. Yeah, like that? He could have said
that that would have been fine. Yeah, Like she is
operating from the perspective of like, it's just money, you know,

(13:43):
I love you? Who what you know? What's the problem?
And he's operating from the perspective of like, I did
not grow up but with a lot. I've had to
work to get where I am, and it means a
lot when someone offers to pay something like that is
a big deal. Yeah, both are fine perspectives. Both take
a little communication, Yes, which maybe you shouldn't get married

(14:05):
if you can't communicate.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah. I mean again, at the end of the day,
if you have such a huge misalignment to the point
where someone says, uh, we shouldn't marry each other because
you should date someone who's rich. Come on, what are
we going to do from there? Hard? Hard to fix.
Kara panicked and apologized profusely, but he said that he
wouldn't be able to tolerate the facts that people would

(14:27):
overlook his own efforts because of Kara's opulence. He said
he'd tell his family and friends and she'd be responsible
for telling hers and just walk down. She cried all
night and hasn't told anyone but us. After hearing her out,
she asked to be left alone in the room so
she could make the necessary phone calls and emails. Luke

(14:47):
and I offered to help in any way we could,
but she thanked us, telling us that this is something
that she has to do alone. Luke is upset about
this and kept trying to call Stephen, but he kept
rejecting his Call's been days since this has happened. Kara
moved in with her parents for the meantime, and Stephen
finally called Luke. The whole conversation went heated. That went

(15:09):
so heated that I had to calm Luke down as
he was getting upset and started clutching his wound. They
stopped talking when Stephen hung up. Luke told me that
Stephen did confirm what Kara told us and that he
a poor chud his words, not mine, doesn't deserve someone
like Kara. He called Stephen a coward and an a hole,

(15:30):
and then the call ended. The cancelation emails have been
sent to everyone invited and the reservations made, and Kara
will be going to the Kawhi honeymoon with her family instead.
Blessed them for being so supportive during these dark times.
They won't be getting their full refund of the deposits
on the canceled services. That's oh man, the canceled weddings.
It's just like it's so expensive and then you you know,

(15:54):
only get a portion if that sometimes, and.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
It seems like this is probably for it if it's
you now, you know this is probably pretty recent.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yes, Yes, the wedding was going to be the day
before your birthday, the day before my birthday. Kara's family
didn't care, and they just want to get over it.
Her wedding dress is already paid for, so she plans
on donating it to another bride who can't afford to
buy a dress that's really lovely. I like that.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
That's you know, I think that's another point. Knowing that
she is really not you know, she knows she has
a lot of money, yes, and she knows that she
has a responsibility.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yes. Because of that, it can be done. I think
Kara's family is an example of it being done well
again again, like the dad saw he was stressed the loans.
He's like, hey, if you want, I would love to
pay it off. And then Stephen polightly declined, and it
seemed he told was like, oh yeah, no, no problem.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
No, I've had I've known a lot, Like you know,
some people get close friends or family friends who are
like very wealthy, and some have been like very generous, yeah,
like lovely, people like you wouldn't even know you know
that they have this wealthy. And then you have some
people who are like, I have a lot of will
and you're gonna know it, and I'm not gonna share
any of it, and you know its not these people.

(17:07):
It's not and it's not these people. So I'm like,
if Steven does not have a you know, anything to
stand on.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Absolutely, if you want to stand on the rock solid
foundation of over two thousand episodes of our show by
listening to them, you can go to Spotify, Apple iHeart
and search Okay Storytime and binge your entire catalog to
your heart's delight. But ladies and gentlemen, we are almost

(17:34):
at the end of the story here. We actually do
have a decent chunk left before we finish. I have
a question for you. Can I have an answer specifically
on Luke's phone call to Steven. What do you think
of Luke's approach in talking with Steven.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Well, it seems like he was just trying to like
talk to him, and then they he learned the what
happened yeah, I don't think it was necessarily bad. I think, yeah,
probably was kind of the only way he could have
talked to Steven because Stephen probably didn't want to meet
up with him.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yeah. No, I mean like about what was said or
like the not the phone call happening again.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
So much of what was said other than like he
got the information and then he said that he was
a coward afterwards.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like trying to think.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
I'm like, because I was like trying to think basically,
I was like, was it a little too much to
like call him a coward in a hole?

Speaker 2 (18:28):
I don't know if he said that too Well, he
might have.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
I think he said I think he said that to
Stephen on the phone.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
I know that he called him a coward and a
hole to Ope.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
He called Stephen Luke told me that Steven did confirm. Okay, yeah,
maybe maybe he did. He might have. I mean, there's
a good chance that he did, confusing whether it was
on the call or when he was telling Opie about
the call and saying yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Mean sure, maybe not like the best way to go
about it. But also if he did do that, but
also I totally understand he's probably feeling very protective.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
About that, very frustrated.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, frustrated about like this man who's thrown away great
stuff is life?

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yes, a great relationship. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
There is a comment from Renie I would could throw
up a little bit. Renie says, I really don't think
this is ego. I think this is growing up poor
and not being able to handle people, being flipped about money,
working so hard to pull himself out and no one
recognizing it. I think that is an explanation for But
I do think it is ego and pride. I think
that when you've had to work yourself up, you have

(19:29):
this pride in how much effort you've done, you put
in to get money and have like a stable life
that you don't want to accept any hands outs, and
you become very independent. It's very much like on a
broader scale, it's very much like the American mindset of
like independence, I don't want no hand like, I don't

(19:49):
want to government handouts, whereas you see other cultures where
like familial government a lot more involved. Yeah, and on
a micro scale, that's what Steven's doing. He's like, I
had to work so hard for this, I can't believe
that they would insult me, insult my pride, to even

(20:09):
say that they would just like pay for all of this,
as if my money doesn't matter, as if my hard
work doesn't matter, which is not what they're saying, but
is what he's hearing.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, and like the bottom line is he's that is
coming out in a very very negative fashion in the relationship. Yeah,
where he's you know, bringing all this negativity to and
then ultimately calling off the wedding.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, which, like definition is ego. He's thinking about himself, Yes,
and you know how it affects He's placing his own
meaning on the actions of others.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yes, this is true, and we have a little bit
left of the story. Let's dive in. Luke said she's
taking an indefinite leave and their supervisor, who is supposed
to officiate the wedding, helped her with that. Kara asked
us if we could come as well. So now we're
making arrangements to make that happen, since we could use
some time to relax too and be there for her

(21:06):
as she has been with us when we needed her.
I just wish that both Kara and Stephen will find
love and peace. The whole event is the definition of
sometimes love just ain't enough and it's so sad to
think about. We do have some relevant comments, one from
Chloe Roses it is sad some guys would like their
future father in law to pay for expenses like their

(21:28):
school debt and others apparently not. The only odd thing
to me is traditionally the parents of the bride are
supposed to pay for the wedding and the bride and
the groom and the honeymoon. So this fifty to fifty
thing with parents for wedding expenses seems silly given their means. Dude, like,
let her parents give her a nice wedding, focus on

(21:49):
paying for the ring and honeymoon. No shame in that.
I think Stephen is struggling with the question why does
this amazing woman want me in her life? He clearly
doesn't feel good enough for her. I think it's just
sad he threw it away. Well, it was better for
him to do it now then wait and get married,
only to divorce her in a few years time. Hope
Kara and he find their perfect matches and wish both

(22:09):
of them the best. Yeah again, Like, I think it's
okay for for him to for Stephen to feel like
a man like I feel bad about not being able
to like provide in a way or give you this gift.
He's like, maybe he's like, you know, I can see
where it's like, hey, this is a gift I would

(22:31):
like to give you. But again, he goes down the
rabbit hole of the ego and the insecurity and then
he brings all of that negativity into the relationship without
stopping to say, well, wait a second, maybe this is
you know, my own like spiraling of of what I
feel about these things, and maybe there is a way

(22:53):
to you know, talk about it, yea and figure it out.
Because again, I personally don't think I would totally understand
if he's like, hey, I just got to say it
like I am like sad, I feel like defeated. Maybe
like I could, I could totally understand that perspective if
he felt that way. And there's I think in expressing

(23:15):
that there's room to work together for them to be
able to have a successful relationship.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Agreed. I mean, like, I've been in situations where like
I'm hanging out or you know, talking to people who
have a lot more money than me or grew up
with a lot more money, and there is like a
can be a cognitive dissonance in how you spend money,
and it can make get a little bit frustrating to
talk to people when they're like, oh, well, just you know,

(23:42):
just buy that. Well I don't know, you just do this,
and I'm like, well, no, yeah, because I have a
different relationship to money than this, And I can totally
understand where Steven's coming from to try and have conversations
with his wife or a fiance and then her being like,
well you just you just buy it and he's like no,

(24:02):
But that does not mean that you can't compromise and
have conversations and reach like an agreement that you know
is not just ending the relationship.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
And that's a good point to bring up because it
seems just reading in between the lines, they never fully
got the understanding of each other's perspective, where it's like
the family kind of kept offering in a nice way,
it seems, but maybe they never got the connection of like, oh, hey,
maybe this is you know, because our perceptions, oh, just
pay for it, it's fine, like like the wedding dress

(24:35):
and everything. They're like, oh, we don't care about the money.
We just want you to feel better, right, which is
great in many ways, but again to Steven's perspective, it's like,
well that no, like exactly.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
And I I understand.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yes, but again it can't come to this.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
No, you had the conversation and you still didn't listen. Yes,
different story.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Totally different.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
That's not what happened here.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
But we're in this story.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Story and he didn't communicate at all.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
And we have a comment number two from Rosalie eighty
three and this is just another example of toxic masculinity.
Instead of working on his own insecurities about their different
financial upbringings, he made it her faults. But look at
the friends he surrounded himself with, Kara. I know it
hurts like heck now, but he did you a favor.
He wasn't strong enough to be your partner. Your family's

(25:22):
financial advantages shouldn't be a burden to your partner. He
should have been happy for you, respected it, respecting it
and them, and working hard in his own chosen career,
knowing you chose him for him as your equal partner,
and not what he can provide for you as you
can provide for yourself. Hugs, and that is it. Huggs, hugs.

(25:43):
That is how we're closing this bad boy out.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, man didn't work out.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, I mean I to that last comment. The good
news here is that they did discover this now and
there's just a clear misalignment. Imagine they had already gotten married, Oh.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
My goodness, the financial stuff would have been even more
of a problem. So they probably would have wanted to
pay for the kids. And then he would have been.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Like, oh the bad off that shouse. Yeah, so better
better it happened, you know, sucks that it was right
before the wedding. You know what, better that way, better
that happened before the wedding than any any time after,
anytime after.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
So there we go.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
But that's the end of that story, folks.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
We're going to get into the next one.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Let's get it. Hey, it's Sam. We're get back to
the stories. But here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
I asked my boyfriend's friend to move out. It sent
our relationships spiraling down. For background, I am a twenty
seven year old woman. My boyfriend, twenty eight male, and
I have lived together in our two bedroom house for
about two years now. We live in a suburb outside a.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
City in the US Niche City Niche.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
By the way, this comes from throw a Hello Reddit
and if you want to spit your own stories, go
to the r slash Okay storytime separate it. So, oh,
we met about four and a half years ago when
working at the same place and have been together for
coming up on four years. That makes sense because you
met yep.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Okay, we met four years ago and we have been
together four years for four years.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
We had planned to get married last summer, four years
after they met, Oh, but I had to cancel it
due to the VID. We both have parents who have
health conditions and wanted them to attend. We are both
waiting for the vaccine to get more available to have
our wedding since a wedding wedding is something we both want.
My boyfriend has a friend who I'll call Bill, twenty

(27:34):
eight male. Bill and my boyfriend have been friends since
childhood and attended school together as children. Bill and my
boyfriend were very close and did many things together. As
I understand it, Bill's family was pretty dysfunctional, so my
boyfriend and his parents late fifties male and female, provided
a lot of stability for him. Bill didn't go to

(27:55):
college and my boyfriend did, but they remained good friends
as we all live in the same area. The entire
time I've been with my boyfriend, he and Bill have
been close and I've gotten to no Bill. Before the VID,
we would often go on double dates with Bill and
Bill's girlfriend. This will become relevant later later, but Bill's
always had many girlfriends, with the relationships never lasting very long.

(28:18):
My boyfriend is implied to me that this stems from
commitment issues from his childhood. But as someone who isn't
by any means a psychologist, I can't speak to this.
What is commitment issues from his childhood?

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Like his parents, Hey son, I'll take you to the
football game later, and he never came. No football. My
dad has a ah ah. Do you want to go
to a football game?

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Riley?

Speaker 1 (28:39):
My dad, not me. Do you want to play catch?

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Riley?

Speaker 1 (28:42):
I said, I'm good. He took care of me. His dad.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Oh, okay, I'll go ask your dad if he wants
to go. I've always liked, well, you know what generational trauma,
So maybe you feel the pain of your dad.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
No, my dad was doctor Dufinsmurtz and then he treated
me how doctor Dufinsburgs treats.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
No, I'm just saying like, maybe you have the memories.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
I played catch with them.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Never I nott, never mind, never mind. I've always liked Bill.
He's friendly, kind and funny. He's always been a great
friend to my boyfriend, and I've gotten to the point
where I consider him a friend, albeit not as close
as him and my boyfriend. In May twenty twenty, Bill
lost his job and it was unable to pay his rent.

(29:25):
At the time, he didn't have a partner again, no
stable girlfriends, and had no family to rely on. My
boyfriend offered for him to stay with us. He asked
me first, and I said I was happy to help
Bill out until he got on his feet again, assuming
it was temporary. At this point, Bill has been living
with us since May, and to put it bluntly, I'm
getting tired of it. In August, he was able to

(29:47):
find a new job that, while I don't know the
details of, pays comparably to his last one. In response,
he's helped with tility bills and with the groceries, but
made no move to move out.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Uh. Oh, we've got Scott Pilgrim.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
I haven't seen that movie.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
I have, am I right?

Speaker 3 (30:07):
But wait, what's Scott Pilgrim lives with his gay roommate,
and his gay roommate's like, you're gonna have to move
out because he's having dudes over all the time.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
That's right now, I remember, I forgot.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
I like Bill and he's a good guest, but I
feel like it's time for him to find his own place.
Our house is very small, so it feels like I'm
never alone with my boyfriend. It's always me.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
My boyfriend and Bill, good old Bill.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
This is amplified because we are all in an area
that has a lot of the VID cases, so we're
all working from home and quarantining. For the most part.
I forgot this was during the VID. This accentuates the
problem tenfold. Yeah, not only are you trying, Oh wow,
you're stuck with your boyfriend, which you know can put strain,
but you're stuck with your boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
And Bill and Bill.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
In our county, many things are closed, so it's not
even like my boyfriend and I couldn't go on a
date alone to a restaurant or something because of the VID.
Around New Year's I brought up to my boyfriend Bill
finding his own place while Bill wasn't present. Well, my
boyfriend wasn't mad at me. He explained that he feels
like we need to be there for Bill and his
time of need. When I pointed out that Bill has

(31:17):
a job and is much more financially stable now, my
boyfriend said that Bill would be lonely if he moved
into an apartment by himself now because of the pandemic.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
That sounds like a Bill problem.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Furthermore, my boyfriend said that Bill was there for him
when his brother, my boyfriend's brother that is, passed away
in a tragic accident when they were all teenagers. Because
of that, he says that he should be there for
Bill now. That doesn't mean that you get to force
Opete to also have to be there for.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Bill, and that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
He also said that he considers Bill a brother and
is happy to do whatever for him. He brought up
how my sister thirty females stayed with us for a
month in the past when she was trying to get
out of a harmful relationship versus how long Bill's.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Stayed undefined time.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Undefined time, probably more than a month.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
I think it was it a got the job in
August May to I think it was May to August.
So far in the story, we've had a couple months.
We've got a couple months at least.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Coming out of the talk. I guess I've been confused.
I go back and forth between feeling like I'm being
irrational to want Bill out of our house and feeling
like it's justified. Maybe I'm being too harsh about the
whole situation. I don't know. From our talk. It doesn't
seem like my boyfriend mine's Bill living with us at all.
I suppose I don't know where to go from here.
Should I just let it all be and assume Bill

(32:38):
will move out when he's ready. Should I talk to
my boyfriend again? Should I bring it up with Bill.
I'm considering doing this, but was worried it would be
inhospitable and not my place, as he's much closer with
my boyfriend. Anyway, thank you for any advice you can give,
and there are some comments and an update, but do
you have any advice that you can give?

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Well, just to plus one your brilliant comment from earlier.
Thanks just because uh Opie's boyfriend wants to you know,
uh let Bill do whatever? Stay living the place now
that this is also oh PE's living space, he cannot
force and encroach what he wants upon her.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
No, no, no. And it also seems like OPE was
operating under the idea that this wouldn't happen, you know,
it wouldn't go on for so long.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, like it would be a one month or you know,
not not a indefinite thing. And and also too, you know,
it also would have been fair if OPI was like, hey,
happy to have him in, no worries, no problems, and
then when it happened, she's like, I know I said that,
but the reality of living it, I, you know, and

(33:45):
the the everything shut down. I would honestly like to
have my space. But det's yeah, also okay.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
She's also not saying kick him out right now. She's saying, Hey,
can we talk to him about starting to make you know,
begin the process of moving out finding a place. Yes,
make it a point, you know, like that's a very
fair request.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, so I think I think OPI maybe could say
that to the boyfriend's like, hey, listen, if it was
him and you, I totally get it, totally understand. But
kelsey Hoff also says, secret lovers, that's what we are.
Here's the theory. It could be true. It could be true.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Amy Lens says, I don't think OPI is the a
hole for feeling how she does. And also it was
hard to find you lodging during the bid, which like
totally fair if you know, he literally can't find anything.
I don't think he's looking, though, and so I think
her request is that he starts looking. She's what's saying,
I'm gonna kick him out right now, even if he
doesn't have a place. Comment one, your boyfriend isn't being

(34:43):
fair comparing a single month for your sister with the
eight months of Bill. Oh, that's a lot of Bill.
That's a whole lot of Bill.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
That's a whole lot of Bill.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Hardly on the same scale. If the only reason is
he'll be lonely, it's not as if you want him
remove from your lives completely or are banning him from visiting.
Does he really have no no other friends or relatives
to talk to? Does he not have a phone?

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Ope?

Speaker 2 (35:04):
He says, right, that's exactly what I thought. And yes,
I'm happy with Bill being in our lives. I just
don't want him literally living with us. As for relatives,
from what I understand Bill's parents were addicts. His mother
passed a few years ago, a boyfriend went to funeral,
and he's not in contact with his father. He has
a half brother who lives in another state he talks
with occasionally. He considers boyfriend's family his family and lived

(35:27):
with them at various times as a kid, though to
my knowledge there was no formal arrangement. Most holidays he
comes to boyfriend's parents with us. They have other friends
and a friend group that consists mostly of boyfriend's college friends.
Pre the VID, they would all go out drinking. I
don't believe he's very close with any of them though,
just my boyfriend Mom. Two, I get it, having your

(35:48):
girlfriend and best friend living with you during the VID
is the best of both worlds. It is probably very
comforting to him. But this isn't college. Bill has a job.
It's time for him to go and live as a
couple again. Up with boyfriend again, and also ask Bill
what his timeline might be. Common three says your boyfriend
does not mind Bill living there. His statement about Bill
being lonely says, all you need to know you're in

(36:11):
a trouble or in trouble. Ooh, and finally looking up.
This has been going on since Bill was dating. They
set the scene and it has continued until you realize
you didn't sign up for a roommate. Bill has been
there almost a year. You need an exact move out date?
Is he paying Bill's Are they split three ways? It
sounds like you might need an ultimatum. It doesn't sound

(36:32):
like your boyfriend will ask him to leave move out
date for Bill or leave and there is an update.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Hmmm, I mean I think we could wait. Oh, were
they saying an ultimatum on like Bill moving out or
like ultimatum like hey, boyfriend, if you don't make Bill
get out leaving the relationship.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
I don't know, because the way it sent it to
me was that that could be very well what they're saying. Yeah,
I think also, I mean, a solution that's still dramatic,
but maybe a step down from that is just moving out.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah. Well, I feel like there's no I feel like.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
There's a name, you know. I feel like there are
many steps before that that we could take before we
get to.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
That, even just going to the boyfriend and without attaching
this like ultimate dire consequence or ultimatum in their relationship being.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Like, hey, I'm no longer comfortable with this.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
I'm no longer comfortable with this. I want to go
to Bob and say, hey, let's see I don't know,
give you like another thirty days or whatever, whatever the
situation is, right, Let's let's have this plan. Let's go
tell him so that way there's a clear date. Let's
do this, yes, and then see what happens.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
And maybe also you can include Bill in that conversation
and say, hey, guys, I wanted to talk to you,
like I really have loved having you Bill.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
You're great, You're.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Like, this is not a you know, against you were
a friendship or anything. I just you know, didn't sign
up to have a third room me.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Yeah, I'm kind of having that happen right now. It's
like just like new roommate. They like to walk on
all kind of always stays in Christien's room and it's
nice when he's around, but I'd like to know when
he's coming around too, you know.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
And sometimes he like goes in your room and like
sleeps on your bed.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yeah, And then also like I'll have food and he's
always knows he's trying to have some, and I'm like, dude,
get your own food, make your own food.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
It's blondes.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
He's so easy.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Blonds are always like that, are everywhere.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, there's an update, though. I took advice from some
of the commenters and decided I was going to talk
to both my boyfriend and Bill about Bill moving out.
On Tuesday morning, when my boyfriend was out jogging, I
asked Bill when he thought he was going to get
his own.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Place, This is just good a little let's see.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
I try to be casual and not judgmental about it.
Bill responded in stride, apologizing for staying with us for
so long, and saying that he had been looking for
an apartment. I took this as a good sign. On Wednesday,
my boyfriend smells fishy.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Oh oh oh, but I've been looking this whole time.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Cozzie, haven't you got it? Where's the urgency? Pick up
the bill?

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Bill.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
On Wednesday, my boyfriend had a big presentation at work.
It was virtual. Oh, bring it up with him. On Thursday,
after dinner, Bill was in his bedroom and my boyfriend
and I were watching TV in the living room. I
told my boyfriend that I had talked to Bill about
moving out, and it sounded like he'd been planning to
do so soon. I honestly assumed that if he was
truly planning to move out, he would have already told

(39:26):
my boyfriend, as they're close. Boyfriend was immediately unhappy and
told me that I shouldn't have told Bill that I
wanted him to move out, which wasn't even what I said,
because it probably made him feel bad. Yeah. Op.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
He literally just.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Said, oh, like, how's the apartment hunt going.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
I told him that Bill didn't seem fazed by it,
but my boyfriend said that I don't know Bill well
enough to tell he's been living with Bill for eight months.
He then started talking about how Bill's mental health issues
such as depression, anxiety, and living with us was helping
him get over that this is the first I've ever
heard of about any of this, though obviously I don't
know everything about Bill and he could very well have
these issues. I was starting to get upset by this

(40:04):
point and told him that it was too bad if
Bill had these issues, but they weren't our problem, and
that Bill was still intruding on our home and relationship.
We started fighting to the point I was nearly crying.
Sounds like a loud conversation.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, that Bill.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
This is a small house.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
At this point, Bill came out of his bedroom. Our
house is a one story, so everything is close together.
You must have heard us. Yeah, you guys were fighting
loudly in the living room and said he was leaving
if it was causing so much stress. My boyfriend tried
to stop him, but he left in his car, though
all his stuff was still at our place. After that,
my boyfriend and I exchanged a few words, and I

(40:44):
finally told him that I didn't want to fight that night,
when we were both tired and emotional. I was going
to stay the night of my sister's thirty female. I
took my laptop for work and a change of clothes
and went to the apartment my sister lives in about
fifteen minutes away with her daughter eight female. Yes, I
know this sounds of hypocritical, but I was only planning
on staying at my sister's for the night, not months.

(41:05):
I worked online from sisters today. During the day, boyfriend
did not call me and I did not call him.
When I got out of work at three, I drove
back to my house to try and talk with my boyfriend.
He wasn't there, and neither was Bill. Oh are they
I'm detication. This is odd as both work remotely during

(41:26):
the day and usually work until four or five. All
their stuff is still here, so obviously Bill hasn't moved out.
I've tried calling them six to nine. I've tried calling
both of them and they didn't pick up. I fed
our cat and am just kind of sitting here waiting
for them to call me back. I don't really know

(41:46):
what to do. On another note, I've gotten several calls
from boyfriend's mother fifty six female during the day. I
didn't pick up, mainly because I was working and also
I really didn't want to involved in everything that was
going on. Yeah, a huge read fla that he's seemingly
involved his mother before actually having a conversation with her
to the point where she's calling op.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Yeah, he's like, mom my girl, was doing these things
like let me hang out with Bill. I like like
hanging out with Bill, and like I want to like
live in with us for forever. I want to get
married and have kids with Bill. There mummy mom for reference.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Boyfriend's mother and I are not particularly close. We talk
on holidays and family get togethers, not really happening now
because the VID and what she calls our home to
talk to my boyfriend, but not much outside of that.
While she's always been nice to me to my face,
I know she disapproves of us living together before marriage,
as she's very religious. She has also had disagreements with

(42:42):
my boyfriend about us not going to church frequently, but
these have largely ended due to the VID. Needless to say,
she doesn't really call me regularly, so I think her
calls are probably about this situation, but I honestly have
no clue what she could possibly have to say about it.
I'm also confused as to why my boyfriend with even
involve her, as they aren't really close. He talks to

(43:03):
her regularly, but more out of obligation. I'm not sure
if maybe he or Bill are at her place, I
don't know. I guess I'm asking for advice. My sister
thinks I should break out with my boyfriend. I'm not sure.
We planned and built a life together. We have been
planning a wedding. Oh, if it weren't for the VID,
we'd already been married, which yeah, they said at the
beginning of the strike.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
It's true. I totally forgot.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
I love him. On the other hand, I feel slighted
and unimportant. It's Valentine's Day weekend and he's not even
here and is off who knows where.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Spinning it with Bill, spinning on it on Bill.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Oh, I'm just so confused and feel like I don't
even understand what's going on anymore. How could Bill be
more important than me? I don't get it. Any input
would be appreciated. I feel like I need an outside perspective.
I'm sorry if this doesn't make sense. I'm pretty upset
and emotional and edit, Toad, he's my fiance. You should

(43:57):
be my husband by now, as we're going to be
married last summer, but the VID we weren't. And there
is a second update, folks, But I want thoughts.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Yes, yes, go ahead, Riley.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
We got to test our fiance's integrity with the camera
by setting it up in the house to see what
Bill and him get into.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
This is the opposite of all the advice we've ever
given testing cameras, filming.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
No, no, no, no, it's just uh yeah, testing testing the integrity,
it's just exactly right. Yeah, and cameras, it's seeing the stress.
How much of the stress can the relationship hold on
to with a certain amount of integrity.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
I disagree with this point. I do not condone this. John,
Do you have any advice that's maybe better?

Speaker 1 (44:45):
I think that Ope, he should go to I feel like,
go to the store and buy a camera. Yes, we
need to explain to boyfriend, like, hey, do you understand
how you like bringing Bill in and kind of like
stone walling me, like wanting to him to not live there.

(45:07):
It impedes upon like my like you know, freedoms and
the way I want to be able to live and
like not have to share everything because like he's getting
mad at her. But it's like, hey, like I've I've
put up with this and this is my space too,
like it's both of our spaces, and it's like I
have no say any time I suggest we don't have
Bill here because that's not what I personally prefer, which

(45:29):
is fine, you just get mad and shut it down. Yep,
it's all crazy. I think I really need to like
hammer that home and be like and if he doesn't
see that bad good. Here we go, Here we go,
Here we go, here we go, here we go round too.
Gay cation.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Gaycation put a flyer to the gaycation for Bill and Phil,
and you see what they think. And if they start saying, hey,
we're going to be taking a trip to the where
do they go is Baalabista Abista Ebita, Ibita Abita.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
You already know what is the gay caation? Can we cannetnude?

Speaker 3 (46:02):
So basically, John, it's where straight men can go to
abita for a week and and and indulge in uh
with other men. But whatever happens and bet on the
gaycation stays in the gacation. So you can you can
go there. You must submit or be destroyed. Yeah, and
you can't resist there. You must submit that mind to

(46:24):
these men, and you're with these men. But when you
come back, none of it was gay and it passes
not cheating at all.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
It's not cheating. Okay.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
So so wow, this was the argument made in this story.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
We know that's the beauty of the gacations, the beauty
of the gay case. So this, whatever happens on the
gay cation stays in the vacation.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
This isn't like like go to a gay bar and
get a free drink and feel pretty as a boy.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
This is yeah that yeah yeah, yeah, and you are
straight there and when you come back.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Wow, you're not You're not gay at all.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
It's the beauty of the cacas.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Yeah, but some people get like mind warped and they
stay there forever and they and they're gay forever and
they never come back.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah, because they've been.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Brainwashed, brainwashed.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Should definitely check out that live stream if you haven't.
Everyone it was. It was phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
But there is an update.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Oh hey, it's Sam. We're gonna get back to these stories.
But here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Edit. Just talk to my boyfriend's mother. Apparently my boyfriend
called Thursday night and said he was going up to
their cabin this weekend. It's about an hour away with
who with bell Oh couldn't get a hold of either
of them, and was calling me to see if I
could because she wanted to remind them of how to
take care of the cabin. I assume they're up there
on Valentine's Day weekend.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
I mean, I have to say Riley's theories looking strong.
Virus second is looking strong. I have to say looking hard. Right.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
The service is sketchy there, so that might be why
I can't get a hold of them either. Edit too, Hi, guys,
this really blew up. Thank you for all your comments
and support. I appreciate it so much. I will try
and respond. Still can't get in contact with my my boyfriend.
I'm planning on going over to my sisters and talking
it over with her. If we still can't get in contact,
we might go up to the cabin.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
She doesn't have her daughter this weekend because she's with Rex.
Edit three, Hi, guys, some of you asked for an update.
I did not go to the cabin. In the end,
I left a voicemail to my boyfriend saying that I
was worried and concerned and do please call me back?

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Yeah, because it's been how many days has it been
since they've talked? Or he's been there too many? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
On the urging of my sister, I told him that
his mom had told me where he was and that
I was worried and would come up if I didn't
hear back from him. After that, he did get back
to me finally and we talked briefly. He said he
just needed to blow off steam and that's why he
went away. He said he would be back Monday and
we would talk then. We both have work off for
President's Day. He apologized for missing Valentine's Day. All you

(48:54):
all are going to be a preparing for a wedding
for much longer.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Yeah, this is looking you, my guy.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
I felt bad, but tried to stay calm because I
didn't want to cause a scene. He initially said he
was up there alone, but when I pointed out that
his mom had said Bill was with him, he agreed
that Bill was with him. This kind of made me
feel a little weird, but I don't know. I asked
if Bill was okay, and he said yes, that he's fine,
which is good because after something you guys said, I
was worried. I'm sorry I didn't respond. Last night, I

(49:24):
stayed at my sister's with my cat. I saw some
of you were worried. I would never leave her alone,
at least not if I knew no one else was
home and wanted to get away from everything. Update three,
I just need to keep going because I really need
to find out if they went on a gacation. Let's see, Hey, guys, TLDR,

(49:44):
we decided to break UPO DESP my now ex boyfriend
came back around noon with Bill. Bill briefly apologized to
me for everything that had happened, and then went back
to his room. Boyfriends still calling in this to reduce
confus and I talked in the living room of our
house alone without Bill. I started and told him that

(50:05):
I was sorry for overreacting on Thursday, but that I
felt by running away and lying to me, he breached
my trust. I told him that I felt we should
break up. Boyfriend agreed with me. He apologized for everything
he did, for missing Valentine's Day, for running away all weekend,
for everything with Bill. He sounded sincere. He was crying.

(50:27):
I asked him why he'd reacted the way he did.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
A great question.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
You guys who said he was in a relationship.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
With Bill were right.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Riley called it from the start, happy bride. You can
say I told you so.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
I suppose, dude, ain't no way on Valentine's Day you
go with the person you're with, Okay, to a.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Cabin in the cabin.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
In the woods on Moose Mountains Day. On Moose Mountain,
according to him, he and Bill fooled around words not
mine it as kids, but stopped when boyfriend's brother passed
away when they were seventeen. He said they were not
involved since then, but we're just close friends. He said
that things developed after Bill moved back in with us,

(51:13):
but that it was never his intention and that's not
why Bill moved in with us. He claims he did
not have spicy sleep with Bill wow he was living
with us, but that they make me feel so much better. Yeah,
but that they did things this weekend.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yeah, I don't believe it. I don't believe it.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Plus like, well, you know what, I actually do believe
that they didn't do anything while they were living together,
because it would have been really hard to get away
with that when they're all stuck together. What during the
VID no, where they're all working at home, I mean
and barely going out.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Not that it's impossible, Yeah, harder, harder, but not impossible.
But guys, I'm going to the grocery store.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
It all was visual every time.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Some people are visual learners, Okay, I thought, no visual
humor Riley, Well.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
For our video watchers, they might need assistance. There was
a sound but fu fun to me. So I'm rethinking
now all of his behavior before, right, and he was
so viciously adamantly against Bill moving out that to me
is like, oh, you were in love with Bill and

(52:24):
loved living with Bill and low Ki living with both
of them at the same like like kind of a
really f thing where we're like, Hey, I'm I'm gonna
get cake and eat it too. I would get my
cake and eat it too. You're I'm gonna say I
think he's in love probably with Bill, right. They have
so much shared history in.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
All this time, and it must have been really hard
not to like admit, yes.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
And he's with It's it's it's just such an FT scenario. Yeah, yeah,
boyfriend fed up big times.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
I don't know if that's true, though. I doubt they
could have been hooking up a lot because our place
was so small and I was usually around. He said
that when I confronted Bill about moving out, Bill in
turn confronted him about deciding what he wanted. He said
he freaked out, that he was confused and scared and
overreacted and treated me bad. He said he's not gay
or bye, and insisted that he was straight and that

(53:17):
was the beauty of the gay cation, and that he
loved me. It was an emotional conversation. We were both crying.
By the way, you can cry with us if you
listen to full episodes of stories just like this. Just
go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or iHeart Radio and search up. Okay, storytime.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
What Uh?

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Oh man, you're so far in the closet.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Yeah, ah, boyfriend needs to understand and uh figure out
what's going on in here? Am I Am? I wrong?

Speaker 2 (53:51):
No? This is so frustrating. This is so frustrating. In
the end, I told him that I was gonna move
out and then he could stay there of like Bill
will staying too. I'm staying at my sister's now with
my kitty, and I'm going to start looking for an apartment.
I'm doing okay. I'm still struggling and feel pretty horrible
that I'm starting to realize that it was probably good

(54:12):
all this came out before he became my husband. It
is good that he came out before he became your husband,
and then you would.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Have been the beard. I mean, she kind of already
was like this.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
This is literally Brooke pack Mountain. They're like, we're not,
we're not, we're not that we're straight. I love my wife,
but I can't quit you. Thank you again for all
your help. I keep saying this, but I truly appreciate it. Folks,
that's the end of that story.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Reney says, well, I truly feel bad for people with
religious trauma that prevents.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Them good point, yes, talk about it.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Prevents them from recognizing who they are imparting that trauma
on others is never okay. I totally forgot that his
mom is super religious to the point she's like, I
don't want you guys living together, even.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
You're not your go to church church.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
More so, she's probably pretty real religious. So he probably
doesn't feel comfortable coming out. Does not mean that he
can cheat on his partner, yeah, no, no.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
No, or like uh and again we don't he doesn't
fully understand his sexual preferences yet. But like if he
never was romantically or spicily interested in OPI in the
first place. Now OPI has spent all this time in
this relationship with this person and built up expectational I'm

(55:27):
going to marry this person.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
It's like, oh, I think there's probably a possibility that
he totally isn't like how has been in love with her?

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Yes, totally, very very possible. Yeah, but it's just has.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Just been like kind of putting pushing this other feeling
of love. Yeah, you know, attraction to Bill and other
men down.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Have you guys ever dated someone and then right after
they started being with the same sex.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
I've only dated one person, so now this has also
happened to me to me twice, once in high school
and then another in two years ago.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Decide what I'm doing something wrong? Yeah, but like what
do you do after that? Like, as this girl, what
do you do? Like, oh, like was he ever really
attracted to me? Did he ever really love me? You know,
like those thoughts would death and ride right.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Yeah, but I think you know, I just have to
remember that bisexuality exists, Like I see you, Yeah, you're
like cool, but.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
Like it's during that time, like if like your partner,
your ex leaves you and gets with another person immediately after,
when you have those same thoughts and feelings.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Sure, but it just depends on the scenario. I mean,
like if a person's like openly by, then you can
be like, oh, you know, if they got immediately with
another person, maybe they don't really like respect our relationship.
I can I could be like a thing that you feel.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
I just would be pretty hurt because it seems like
she's just stunned and taking a step back instead of
being hurt.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
I mean I would imagine, right, I would imagine she's hurt, stunned, shocked,
and this is gonna be your husband.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Yeah, oh I got I thought we were still talking
about you. No, no, sorry, I was confused. Oh yeah,
probably very hurt and stuff she was cheated on. And
also he doesn't even know what you know he is. Yes, yes,
he has not even come to like reckon with that. Yes.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
And to clarify my comment from earlier, I wasn't saying
for sure that he was not by I was saying
there could be a possible scenario potentially in which you know,
that wasn't the case. But yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Mean he really didn't. He's been suppressing there's, of course
a possibility of that, because he literally doesn't know.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
It does It seems the only thing that is at
least the clearest of what we do know is that
he wants to be with or explore what like looking
what it looks like to be with Bill. Yes, this
point all.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Right, Well, folks, that's the end. That's story and the
end of that episode.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Out of the stream. No, keep going first eight more
hours straights with no breaks. Yeah, too much.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
But folks, if you love us, make sure to subscribe.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
We love you and see you tomorrow.

All Episodes

My fiancé CALLED OFF our wedding… because of our financial difference! | Reddit Stories | EP2156

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know

Dateline NBC

The Breakfast Club

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}My fiancé CALLED OFF our wedding… because of our financial difference! | Reddit Stories | EP2156