My fiancé's boss’ wife is a LIAR…I REFUSE to have her at my wedding! | Reddit Stories - ok storytime

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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is Alayah. I refuse to have her at my wedding.
Oh cheating involved boss's wife. Oh no. Me female and

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my fiance twenty nine male got engaged in July of
this year. We immediately started planning book revenue and are
slowly getting things into place. We're pretty mutual on the
guest list, as we have both met each other's friends
and family are the extended family of mine because it's
basically the size of a medium army. By the way,
this comes from WINNI friend on the r slash Okay

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story Time sot about it. So the conversation has brought
up a few times of work colleagues coming to the wedding.
He's met a fair few of mine through small events
and after work drinks, and I've met a few of
his and similar situations, including his managing director. I have
never met his MD's wife that I know. She also
works at his business. She's head of accounting, but seems

(01:04):
to think she's a chief operating officer despite that, not
me in her position.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, go back to your numbers book, lady, No.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Your place, That's what I'll be saying. I've heard things
about her from what I gather, she's not the nicest woman.
And it's not because she's a tough boss. She's very
much a person that is do as I say, not
as I do. Gotta love those kind of people. On
top of this, I have never once had a conversation
with her, And even at one point I saw my
fiance in town and said hi, and she was there

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and she didn't even acknowledge me. He says, it's because
she didn't know who I was. But the fact that
I walked up to him and kissed him should have
been a big enough hint.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, that's not even a hint. That's like a big
flashing sign.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Hey. Maybe she was like, oh, that's a mistress I'm
gonna disrespect. Could be now for the story that has
made me point blank not want her at the wedding.
Around the pandemic times after the second lockdown, my fiance
was asked to go out and meet some clients. One
of his clients were based in my hometown, so I
asked if I could go with them so I could
visit my mom. We were driving around to get some

(02:08):
breakfast from unnamed fast food place and I got caught
on a round about. When we went to pull off,
we got stuck in fifth gear, so we had to
call a mechanic to come grab the car as the
gear selector cable had broken. He called his bosses to
let them know that he wasn't going to be able
to drive out that day. His CEO was fine with it,
because you know, if these things happened, and let him
take the day off. Whilst we were waiting for the

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toe vehicle, his CEO must have told his wife what
had happened. I think for some reason, she didn't believe
my fiance, So not long after that he got a
call from her and she was asking where exactly he was.
My fiance, very confused, told her and asked her why,
of which she had no reason to call, and then

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hung up. We were both so puzzled, but didn't think
much of it. Fast forward, the toe van came and
he dropped us and the car back to our house.
Not even fifteen minutes after being in this house, the
CEO call and asked him to go into the office
because they needed him in work. Again, this is weird,
but my fiance caught the tram into work and left

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me confused as to what was going on. Hour or
so later, he called me up and I could tell
he was raging. He told me that his boss and
his wife called him into a meeting to interrogate him
because they didn't believe his car wasn't drivable. He was
so insulted, right rightfully so that he asked why they'd
ever think that he'd lie about that. We were in
a time where people would use having the sickness of

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the pandemic as again out of jail card for work
so often that if he really wanted to, he'd just
have to call in and say that if he didn't
want to work. He told me that managing director's wife
told him that she walked from their house with their
dogs to our exact spot where we'd broken down and
didn't see us, so she knew he was lying. Wow,

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literally took her dogs to walk to the spot where
his car had broken down and was like, actually, I
hated you there so like, you're like a tally, like
a liarn I got you.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Like, if your car's not working, why aren't you in it?
I mean, am I wrong? Is that not what she's saying?
Is your refrigerator running? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Good, that's what they always say.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Good. It was at this point I heard his voice crack,
and I knew he was a whole new level of angry.
I then started to get angry because they'd pushed him
to that, and he then went on to tell me
they threatened to fire him if they found out he
was lying, and then sent him off his way to
work for the rest of the day. Wow, now, ladies,

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I know you can relate when I tell you, there's
no feeling that matches the maternal rage of wanting to
protect a loved one that's been hurt. In that moment,
I was ready to go into his office and throw
hands with his bee, but I reframed. I spoke with
him and calmed him down because they really weren't worth
rising to. I made him put in rioting that he
won't be going out to visit clients free of charge anymore,

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and he is to be paid additional by the mile,
and they would have to supplement for the business expense
of the car insurance, of which I think they threw
him a bit because he was their only sales runner,
but they did agree. Fast forward again, my fiance and
is Empdy talked things out after he realized that he
was telling the truth and his boss apologized. You think
his wife would apologize, But did she, Dakota, Do we

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think the wife, who after the CEO said it was fine,
was like, no, no, no, no, no, we need to torture you.
You're a liar. Do you think she's going to be like,
you know what, my bad. You were totally in the
right and that was totally my fault.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
No, because she's going to be like, oh, I walked
past your car.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
It looked fine.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
I've seen your car. It looks drivable.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
You're not only lying in front of God, You're lying
in front of my dogs.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Not the dog.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Those are my dogs? How not the dogs? Dare you? No?

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Not at all.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
I got curious as to how she saw us, and
after going to his MD's house once I decided to
bring up Google maps how long it would take to
walk from their house to the spot we broke down.
We're doing some some uh investigation over here giving me.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Some high school math problems where it's like if the
distance between point A and point B is relative to
blah blah blah. It's been a long time, I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Think it's like I'm like, oh, who would do that
in a math equation?

Speaker 1 (06:20):
And like, oh, now I'm the person in the math equation.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah right.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
And guess how long it was to go to I
don't know, two hours. It would take two hours. And
you want to know how long we were waiting for recovery, folks,
forty five minutes. There was no way she walked to us,
not unless she's the bloody flash. After I found out
she lied, I despised her for having the audacity to
call my man a liar when she stood there made

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him feel like crap, all whilst lying herself. So now
you know the backstory, you can understand why I don't
want her near my wedding. I told my Fance I
didn't want her there based on that story, the fact
that she's never apologized, and the fact that I've never
spoken to her, and that she's a horrible you. And
he told me that he just wants me to suck
it up because basically, he wants his boss there, and

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she won't let him come if she isn't invited.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
It is the bosses. Why why do you want your
boss there? Let's be real, why do you want your
boss at your wedding? I have no desire for any
of my boss I mean, well except for with some exception. Yeah,
we may wait, maybe with some exception. Now, actually, now
I can think there's only there's three.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
I guess I'm not a good sample size all day,
but I'm not a good sample for this because bosses. Yes, technically, yes, Well.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
What's what's what's the percentage though? How many total bosses
are we talking?

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Oh that's like not even that's like maybe ten percent
of my boss Okay, so only passing, right, Yeah, that's
that's still, you know.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Pretty low. Opie said, that's stupid. He's a grown man
who can do what he wants. Oh and if either
of them need an explanation, they are welcome to talk
to me about that. My fiance then got mad and
told me he wouldn't be able to invite anyone from
his work if they didn't come. I asked why, and
he said it would be awkward in work. Afterwards, I
told him if it's awkward, then that's down to his

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boss's wife, not us, and that she shouldn't be such
an ahole. And you know what, ladies and gentlemen, you
shouldn't be an ahole because you can listen to full
episodes with stories like this. Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts,
or your favorite podcast player and search. Okay, story time.
Don't be an ahole. Guys, it's all you gotta do.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Don't do it, and then you get the no a
hole seal of approval.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Everyone wants that. John himself, let's talk about the story here, Dakota,
I'm thinking everyone sucks her. Do you agree? Because fiance
was like, I can invite whoever I want. I'm gonna
bet my boss and everyone will be awkward if I
don't invite everyone.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
I do kind of get that where it's like it
could be awkward. It depends on the company, depends on
what kind.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Of job it is.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
We don't really know anything about it. He's in sales,
very clicky.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Like I was just gonna say, uh, hey, this is
your wedding, do we need to use it for it?
Sounds like he's like politicking with it the company and
it's like, you know what, just enjoy the day.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Maybe yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Like, but then if you do have friends that you
want from your job, that you're like that you would
want there, then it does make it hard because if
you don't want the boss feeling like you don't like him,
because then he's not gonna like you. Just like it's
a fact you never want your boss to not like you,
because it's gonna make your job more miserable. Like that's
just the wave of the that's the natural order of things.
But I don't think necessarily the problem here isn't even

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the boss.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
It's his wife.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
So if you can find I have a contingency that
somehow keeps the wife from like becoming like the coo
of the wedding, or should I say the fake coo
of the wedding, She's like, I have some numbers to
crunch here. Let's really crunch the numbers on your wedding.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
You know what, She's the CFO. She fake officer.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, she fake CFO.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
She fake officer, chief, fake officer.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
So Obi says, he then switched on me and said
it was my fault and that I was being too
stubborn and I should just let her come to the wedding.
I've held my ground and said no. By now I
feel bad because, just like me, he's stubborn. He said
he won't invite anyone from his work who we actually
would want there because I don't want his boss's wife there,
and I don't want him to do that. I don't

(10:11):
know what to do because he does have some lovely colleagues,
but I can't stand his boss's wife. Am I the
a hole? Actually everyone sucks about Ope, That's what I
meant to say earlier.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
I don't know why is OP so concerned about it,
like the boss. I mean, it's not even OP doesn't
work there. OP didn't have to go into the office
and be accused of being a liar. Op's just caught
up on the fact that the wife hasn't apologized, which
who cares her apology would be meaningless because she probably
wouldn't even mean it.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
True to play Devil's advocate, I would say, it's like, hey,
you don't want someone, you don't like her, you feel
brings negative energy to you at your wedding. Well, let's
see we've got we got a little bit on the
story left or some relevant commenters on I'd SAYE who
might have their own take comment number one. Inviting someone
who is consistently cold and rude to your fance to

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your wedding may have unintended consequences. Think about how their
behavior could impact your fiance's work environment and relationships with colleagues,
including the MD, in the long run. That's so funny.
I thought they were saying the opposite, like, think about
how it might make you know, like ope feel to
have someone out their wedding, But they're like, no, think
about fiance's work life, like being ruined for the rest

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of his yayh you care with the money.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
You can't mess the money up, can't mess the money
up over because then this person's winning. All this goes
back to like there's this weird like circles all the
way back around and if you like make all these
decisions over one person who you don't want to be around,
they're actually they're still winning. They're still they're they're impacting
your life so much that now you're making decisions just

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based upon their existence.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
This like, this is impossible for me. Commenter says, it's
possible that you may not even interact with the MD's
wife during the wedding, and she may not even attend
the ceremony. So ask yourself, is standing firm on inviting
her really worth potentially jeopardizing your fiance's work life and
causing him undue stress and anxiety. Consider what's more important
to you being right or ensuring your fiance's happiness and

(12:05):
well being. Do you want him to be calling you
every week anxious and upset because of the uncomfortable work
environment you've created. Take a step back and think about
the potential long term effects of your decision. Is inviting
someone who is route to your fiance really worth the risk?
I understand your reason, and my petty self would would
call her lieout, But him having a job is worth
more than calling her out. I'm still undecided, but it's

(12:27):
convincing argument. But we're gonna get into comment to number two.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Hmmm.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
If your fiance won't stand up and have a firm
professional boundary with these people, I don't think you should
be fighting that battle. This is sticky. I do understand
where you're coming from. Nice I did effort to go
to NICE. I wouldn't want them to be there either.
Why is your fiance hell bent on having them there
image slash promo seems like too much, so we've got

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kind of like one take from each side.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
I can answer that, and it's it's because it's not
in a vacuum. It's like he because if you invite
everyone but your boss, your boss can find out your
boss is gonna and then that impacts your work. I
don't even think it's about like making it himself look
good or getting a promotion. It's literally just if we
don't invite him, we can't invite the rest of my

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friends from work, who I would assume you'd want to
be at your wedding.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Comment number three, Invite them and put them at a table,
buy the kitchen at reception. Comment number four, man for
your fiance psych invite the troll. When she tries to
congratulate you, look her up and down and walk off.
But I'm just a petty biatch.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah, just give her the look at luberatly. Yeah, I'd
be proud of me too. See you, and that's it, goodbye,
see you.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
My parents compared me to my brother's girlfriend because she's better. Dang.
I twenty nine female and my partner twenty nine were
invited to my brothers jay twenty eight birthday party a
few days ago. The whole thing was more than a
bit last minute, because the invite came two hours before
the actual party. This is the reason why my partner
couldn't come, since they had already made plans. Plus me

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and Jay are pretty estranged at this point, so the
short notice didn't surprise me. By the way, this comes
from Expensive Place ninety six seventy eight and if you
want to spend your own stories, go to our slash
okay storytime suppered it. So Jay started dating his girlfriend
twenty five about two years ago and they moved in
together this summer. He adores her and she's head over
heels for him. I'm really happy for them and I

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only wish them the best. As for girlfriend, we aren't
really close, but our conversations are pretty pleasant, even if
we're really different character and interest wise. On the drive
to the party, I got a text from my mom
sixty one that she and my dad sixty six wouldn't
be available that evening but were wishing me fun. So
I wasn't really surprised when I met them at Jay's

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and his girlfriend place, but I think they were so
I congratulated, Jake greeted his girlfriend, and the other guest
started to trickle in, eating Jay's friends and his girlfriend's parents. Now,
my parents, especially Mom, adore girlfriend in every single way possible,
often talking about her accomplishments, good looks, and sweet nature.

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They are also visiting her parents or Jay's friend's parents
a lot, while the same can't be said about my partners,
with them, never having with them, never having showed much
of an interest. Yes, we've been in a partnership for
only half a year, but we've been best friends for
more than ten years before that. During the evening, everyone drank,
with the exception of girlfriend's mom since she was the

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designated driver, and me because I drove there by myself,
especially my dad, but my mom wasn't far behind. Also,
I was seated with them. The whole time. I listened
to my mom praising girlfriend and going on and on
about how she's such an amazing cook, how she and
Jay keep the house so tidy and are renovating the

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gardens so beautifully, and how she had such a great
time while picking out the new couch and closet for
my parents' living room last week. Now that part was
news for me, since I've only heard that my mom
wanted to paint the walls, to paint the walls, to
which I had already agreed on helping. Also, we've been
in contact multiple times the last weeks, me helping her

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declutter on the phone or on the phone since I
don't live close. Then she told girlfriends' parents how she
was looking forward to pick the color and to paint
the room with girlfriends, as if it wasn't something that
I had already agreed to help her with. When I
asked her about it, she kind of blew me off,
saying that she forgot to tell me about the new
furniture and that they had had it picked a date

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for painting it. Sadly, it's not the first time something
like that happened, so I'm kind of used to it.
Like she forgot that I was coming over before served
me a meal with eggs, even though I'd been allergic
to them since I was a child. Oh boy, come on,
you're a parent. You don't forget your like your children's

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deadly owl or pass Yeah, nothing major. I just get
really bad stomachaches. Also, she criticizes me for a lot
of things, like my weight, my ADHD, etc. The only
time I'm receiving a compliment these days are either for
my job. How I was always looking so well after
my brother while growing up and during our teenage years.
Then like half an hour later, my dad exclaimed how

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in his and my mom's opinion, I can do nothing right.
He was going on and on about how I can't
speak well in the dialect of my parents, how I
always do everything completely disregarding their wishes, and how I'm
not even in a proper relationship and everything. My mom
didn't make a comment, and I don't know if she
didn't hear since she was talking with someone else in
that moment, or decided to ignore it. When girlfriend's dad

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spoke up how there isn't really a right way to
live a life, my dad told him that that wasn't true,
and that he knew what was right, and I just
didn't do those things on purpose. He is blamed me
for things even out of my control before, but somehow
it took me off guard this time. I decided to
leave quietly after that. I spoke with my partner the
next day and they are livid with my parents right now.

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I also have trouble sleeping since then, with how the
whole evening reminded me of things that happened in the past,
For example, my dad naming me as the reason why
he suffered a heart attack, my late grandmother telling me
she wished I had never been born, my mom blaming
me for that particular argument in how my grandmother threatened
to harm herself after I set boundaries. Furthermore, I am
celebrating my own birthday in a few weeks. My family,

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including girlfriend, are invited, along with my partner and their parents.
I'm going to treat them to a pretty high end restaurant,
and I know that they are all really looking forward
to it, my family, especially since girlfriend really wants to
try that kind of restaurant. Currently, I'm contemplating on just
either calling the whole thing off or putting some distance
between me and my family after it. I know it

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sounds petty, but if they already have such a perfect
daughter in law and I'm nothing but a disappointment to them,
why should I keep them this close to me just
so I can feel even more like a burden in
the future. My partner has been great through those last
few times, but tonight I couldn't help feel like an
a hole for thinking like that? So am I the
a hole or unfounded for feeling like that? There are

(19:01):
some comments and I'm sure an update, but I have
some thoughts. What are your thoughts, Sophia. I think that
OPI has two options here. One you you know, cancel
the thing and you distance yourself, or to you just
invite the people who care for you and who have
been treating you well, and that it seems like that's

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everyone but your parents, so you don't have to invite
your parents they have you can say. If they say why,
you can say, because you guys said that I do
nothing right, so I don't want you there. There are
some comments, though, I think you should take some time
for yourself, go to the restaurant with people who value
you and think about the past with them who cares,
if they're looking forward to it, it's about you. Do

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they bring joy, support or positivity? Or do you keep
them in your life out of obligation if you weren't
related to them. Are they the kind of people you
would want to be in your life? Opie says, thank you.
I think I needed to be reminded of that, and
they support me when it aligns with their own belie
chiefs or interests, for example, like me going in my
current field of work or me getting my driver's license,

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but don't listen to my troubles with ADHD since they
don't believe it exists. Also, I used to love spending
time with them, but in recent years those feelings got
more complicated and we run in completely different circles. So
if it wasn't if I wasn't related to them, I
probably wouldn't have met either of my family. It's something
my partner, as well as their family and our mutual

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friends have always been baffled about and comment too. I
think that for your birthday you should not cancel, but
I know all the invitations of your family. I would
even say that you should cut ties with your family.
You should be devoting yourself to people who value and
who help you move forward. People who are toxic to
you and hurt you need to get out of your
life for a very long time. Your mother just wants

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you for what suits her. The day you have to paint,
tell her that you have the VID and can't go,
Obie says, I will definitely not help her paint the
living room. That was also one of the first things
my partner said when I spoke to them, thank you
for your and there is an update. Oh boy, let's
jump in. Let's do it. Basically, it has been quite
a wild ride since then. For one, my mother broke

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her leg whoa and had to rely on me as
well as girlfriend, since my younger brother Jay is busy
working and my father can't really help for health reasons.
That in itself has been quite something because while my
parents talk to me when I'm over, as soon as
my brother and girlfriend show up, I'm literally not interesting anymore.
Since I'm around my parents more than usual, I set

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some boundaries. For one, I've told them firmly that I'm
not someone they can just order to come over at
their demand, and they have to tell me a day
before if they need something. My mother really didn't like
hearing that, but I'm just past the point of caring
right now, as you should be great for them if
girlfriend shows up whenever they want to, but I won't,
and I really don't care if she thinks that other

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people have their priorities set straight, I don't. Also, if
they fail to show up or be there when we
set a date for like me coming over, to cook
dinner for them and they're not home. Once again, I
won't repeat these appointments anymore, either I'm important enough for
them to remember or not. I also told the both
of them that next year, I, not my father or
girlfriend nor anybody else, would pick the place where I

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celebrate my birthday and they would either welcome, be welcome,
or could stay away for all I care. Again, that
was not received very well, or when I told them
that my job was majorly exhausting I work full time
as a kindergarten teacher, and that they can expect me
the same things for me as from my brother as
an office worker. As for the birthday party in two weeks, well,

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I decided to go through with it, be the bigger person,
even though it will probably not be that entertaining, especially
since my partner broke up with me a few days ago.
They said they rather wanted us to be friends again
than be in a relationship, and that me being a
doormat for my family and showing no backbone when they
or my partner themselves are being mean to me isn't

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something they can do in that capacity anymore.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
That's hard, because that's understandable, and I think we've seen
that side of a lot of different stories.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Yeah, but man, man, also because I'm still undecided if
I want kids in the future, and they definitely don't,
and that's very fair reason. Yeah, that hurt like a
knife to the gut, but I get it on some points. Also,
when I told my mother, I received zero emotional support,
and only after I explained to her that she's way
out of line, she apologized for like the first time

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in a long while. So yes, I'm going to be
the biggest person there is celebrate my birthday with my
emotional labies, family, my ex partner and their parents. Your
ex partner broke up with you right before your birthday.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
Yeah, and then they're just gonna be like, yeah, but
we could just go as a friend.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
What. I don't think it's that easy. Unfortunately, probably the
worst time. And after that, I'm going to laylo for
a while and minimize contact to a lot of people,
do things I like, and go back to therapy because
after all that crap this last two months, my psyche
is not really doing that great. I read your previous

(23:58):
post are you Asians Chinese? Because you said dialect. Anyways,
if the girlfriend can do the Airlands can do the errands,
then you don't have to do it. Is like your
parents are already molding her into the obedient daughter in
law that will serve them. Anyway. Do you have other
friends that you can do a low key celebration of
You might want to work with a counselor with similar
heritage as you. You deserve better grieving the relationship sucks,

(24:20):
but is needed. I hope you can find yourself and
your values and find a way to see yourself as
valuable and have worth from within. And Opie says, no,
I'm German and I'm speaking mostly what we call High German,
while my family is only speaking with speaking with the
Bavarian dialect. My family is these old Bavarian values deeply
ingrained in their minds, and that includes anything outside of

(24:42):
Bavaria is let's just say they, especially my father, don't
really like people outsiders state very much. And yes, they
mostly just call me if girlfriend doesn't have the time
or something. So I'm not feeling bad about making my
boundaries clear in that regard. And yeah, I'm celebrating with
a few friends A week later, I'm keeping family and
friends pretty apart. Since my friends have quite the bone
to pick with my family. Understandably, I'm going to look

(25:05):
into that. Thank you, And there is a second update.
Oh my gosh, man, oh man, do you have any thoughts?
My brain is hurting, Rope. It's a lot. I mean, OK,
he's going through a lot, like trying to stand up
to your parents and seemingly is doing that, but then
also got broken up for not standing up. These two
links are what happened until now. Also, this will be

(25:28):
the final update. The birthday party came and went and
it was pretty much like I thought it was going
to be, except that both my mother as well as
my brother tried to include me more than before, and
in general it was nice. Again, this is Opie's birthday,
I would hope you were included. Yeah, everyone was happy
and I had a nice time as well. It didn't
feel like I was an outsider all the time, just

(25:50):
a little bit, which is more than I can usually say.
As for the other three guests, my ex parents in
law excuse themselves, but they invited for us for coffee
on that day and I got my favorite cake lovely.
I still have a pretty solid relationship with them, and
I hope it holds and my ex partner now trying
to act like my best friend again because that was
who they were before our relationship started. Didn't show up either,

(26:12):
X claim that it would be too uncomfortable for them,
since my parents could make a comment or something about
why they broke up with me, and they didn't want
to expose themselves like that. You could say that our
relationship is a bit strained with some of the stuff
they said during the breakup still doesn't sit right with me,
like how I and my problems are a huge burden
to them and that I'm nothing more than a doormat.

(26:33):
I respect their decision, but it still makes me sad
and angry, which is totally understandable. Yeah, maybe I've just
grown bitter since the one person who I thought would
never hurt me did that so easily and seems to
thrive now that they're single once more. Sometimes it feels
like I can't recognize them anymore. But oh well, they
just have to realize and accept that they lost a

(26:55):
whole lot of my trust. Also, I've been in contact
with another old friend more made two friends that way,
So yeah, things aren't looking that bleak anymore. That is
amazing to hear yeah. And you know what else is
amazing to hear? Well, you guys can listen to full
episodes with stories just like this if you go to Spotify,
Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app to search up

(27:16):
Okay story time. I think, Op, you are headed in
the right direction. You've been through a lot of tough stuff.
But your partner breaking up with you does not mean
that you aren't going in the right direction. You are
standing up for yourself. You're putting up boundaries and that
is still needed, and you're making steps to that, and
that's great. In the grand scheme of things, this might
be the right direction. It might be Yeah, and maybe

(27:37):
you know you wanted to kids, your partner doesn't. In
the long run, that would have been another tricky thing.
So I think, yeah, you know exactly, Yeah, this is
right for you. As for my family and futures, since
I set up some boundaries and stuck with them, they're
in general more careful with me. I already went low
contact with them, but if they decide to pull some
bs again, I told them the consequences, meaning that I

(27:59):
would lower it even more. I've already heard my mother
talk about how much he misses me and how I'm
not aroullied as much anymore. Maybe you shouldn't have taken
Ope for granted. I hope with time they can accept
that I may be their daughter and not the offspring
who never did meet their expectations. With that, thank you
to everyone who read and left a comment. You made
me smile in difficult times, and your words gave me

(28:20):
some options I hadn't thought about. Take care and that
is the end story. That is the end of the
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Speaker 5 (28:35):
My brother wrongly accused our parents of being controlling, so
I confronted him. Maybe they were only controlling with him
your favorite child alert.

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Speaker 5 (28:46):
My brother in law twenty five male and sister in
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any day now?

Speaker 4 (28:52):
Congratulations.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
They have started giving my parents the silent treatment and
I have no idea what to do, especially because I
live in a different state from.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
All of them. Sorry, it is a long story. By
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Speaker 5 (29:07):
Okay story ten Supreddit do it do it? There has
been constant tens for my brother and sister in law
towards myself and my parents throughout their entire married life.
This all started due to a conflict that occurred when
I was in college before they got married. To give
some context, my brother proposed to his girlfriend from high
school now wife when he was twenty one. She had
been planning her wedding on Pinterest for years, like many

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of us two, but had no desire to have a
large bachelorette party, especially because she was not even a
big drinker. Sister in law decided to have her bachelorette
a Halloween Horror Nights, inviting her friends from her high school,
her cousin, and her sister in law. I was also invited,
and with my college nearby, I said I would be
able to go, even though I had a busy class schedule.
She sent me a time and purchased a ticket or

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and I purchased a ticket. A few weeks later, I
went to the amusement park an hour early before the
time that she told me to be there so I
would not be late. I sat at the Starbucks and
just people watched until it was around five o'clock, the
meeting time. I had not received a text and decided
to reach out to check the status on their arrival.
My soon to be sister in law was planning to
carpool with everyone from our hometown and drive one hour
to the park, so I assumed that they were late

(30:11):
for traffic reasons. I waited for a reply and still nothing.
Waiting for another thirty minutes, I texted again and finally
received a reply. She said that they were on their
way to the park. Apparently, my sister in law decided
to book her hairstyle practice for her wedding the same
day as Halloween. Horranites in the afternoon, so her hair
would be done for her bachelorette and that's why she

(30:33):
said she was running late. I decided to grab some
food as the event would not be opened until six o'clock,
and sat waiting.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
About an hour later.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
I waited expecting them to have reached the hotel, and
texted my sister in law yet again for an update.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
She said that they.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
Arrived but were hungry. They ordered pizza to the hotel.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Again.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
I waited thirty minutes, so it was close to eight o'clock.
At this point, I had not heard any updates, so
I decided to head into the park to experience some
of the scare zones, but did not enter any houses
because the express pass only worked.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
Once for each house.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
I sat alone in the park and still not having
heard from my sister in law, I texted my brother
if he knew where she was and told my parents
about the situation.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
Big mistake.

Speaker 5 (31:13):
My dad called my brother in a frenzy, asking him
how his future wife could lack empathy and not communicate
where she was. He was pissed that I was left
in the park by myself during a huge event like
Halloween horror nights where something could happen, even though I
was a college student at the time. My brother called
me soon after and apologized, asking me where I was
and to go have fun by myself. During this time,

(31:34):
my brother was also snapchatting my sister in law asking
her where she was. My brother said that she was
on her way and that was that. I sat on
the curb and they all finally showed up a little
after nine o'clock.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Jang and they said six. Yeah, I mean Opie chose
to be there at five, but like still has been
there right since five? Yeah, I mean, like you can't
complain for being there for like an hour if they
were like if they go there for sake, you could
be like, I've been here for an hour. But the
several hours like after the meeting time, you can definitely

(32:06):
think about that. Yeah, absolutely, four hours after they were
supposed to be there. My sister in law looked unbothered,
and they all brushed it off like nothing happened. Actually, no,
they said.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
Five, so it was it was four hours, So she
I think was there at four then, and then they
pushed it back to six because of the hair thing
and then so it's just like it's just I think
I think.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
We did get there at five, but I think you're
right that, Like originally the time was yeah, five, and
then they pushed their way. Most a lot of hours
had gone by, bad communications, so bad regardless of what
the time was.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
Yeah, my sister in law looked unbothered and they all
brushed it off like nothing happened, nudging me, yeah, nudging
me to follow them to our first house. Throughout the evening,
it was fine. I made small talk with her friends,
but did not have too much in common with them.
I was nice and did not bring up their root delay.
At the end of the night, I decided to leave
early because I still had class the next morning, and
bid them a goodbye. They seemed kind of relieved I

(33:03):
was leaving, but I decided to brush it off.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Dang, that's rough, man, that's rude.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
Fast forward, my sister in law was not forgiving of
That night, my brother apparently was told off by my
dad and said that his wife should have been more
responsible in caring for other people's time. He said that
he did not appreciate her leaving his daughter alone and
not communicating with her. He said something along the lines
of you should think twice about marrying someone like that.
My father said that in the heat of the moment

(33:28):
when he was very angry at my sister in law,
my dad stood up for me when I could not,
and he came from a loving place for my sake. Apparently,
my brother told everything to my future sister in law,
especially that part in quotes. Dude, yikes, dude, we probably
could have probably could have kept a few things.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Yeah, you don't need to be that. Yes, it would
have to be like a freaking court reporter. Yeah, exactly.
You can pare a phrase. She was pissed at me
and moreover, my father.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
My mom went out to lunch with them to mitigate
the situation, and sister in law said that it was
not her fault. She communicated clearly and then I should apologize.
I decided to let it go. I knew it was
not my fault. She was late and left me, deciding
to be the bigger person. I did, in fact apologize
to her, but said that I did not feel like
I was in the wrong. I only contacted my brother
and my parents because I was worried about what to

(34:19):
do in the situation. I did not come from a
malicious place to ruin her bachelorette like she said I did.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
No, you literally didn't do anything wrong. Yeah, not at all.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
Then this mess led to the first ever harsh treatment
from her and also my brother. According to her, it
was my fault and my parents for messing her up
her bachelorette and causing drama. The wedding came and we
were left out of details and were not told much,
even though my parents were paying for the majority of it.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
WHOA wow, wondering if they were left out like if
OP was originally going to be like a bridesmaid or
something and then was left out. I don't know that.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Would be a crazy, crazy thing to yeah, or if
they're just like, hey, we decided on these flowers and
they're like the most expensive flowers or something like that.
Sister in law told her entire family about what my
father said and turned his words against us, all making
us scene like we hated her and wanted to break
off their engagement. The wedding rehearsal came and it was
awkward silence. Her family clearly was angry at us, thinking

(35:17):
of hit this predisposition they had in their mind. We
had already met them before, but to have this switch
was scary and uncomfortable. Getting to the wedding, her family
was put first throughout the process, and everyone from her
family made a speech, while myself and my parents were
never asked. My parents and I kept in the background
with our side of the family. I never even got
to dance with my brother or really talked to him,

(35:39):
which I guess happens at weddings. My parents ended up
paying for my brother and my sister in law's entire
honeymoon to an all inclusive resort as a wedding gift.
They had a great time, but never really told us
much about it. They then went on to get an
apartment and a dog. My brother left me and my
mom to clean out his entire childhood room, bringing all
his stuff to his new apartment. We boxed everything and

(36:01):
helped him out because we wanted to. But when we
got to his apartment, he asked, why did you bring
all of this? We looked at each other, confused. We
spent hours packing this up. Sister in law walked in
and started going through the stuff, making piles for us
to take back.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
No, come on, my goodnes, come on, you just ask Yeah,
you just asked. Yeah, that's wild.

Speaker 5 (36:22):
My poor mom relented and started taking stuff back to
the car. After this event and move, my parents and
I did not hear much from my brother. We decided
to give him space to figure out this new process
in his life, leaving out other small events that happened
in between.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
It was my turn to graduate college.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
This even started the first silent treatment phase. How you
may ask, I only got five tickets for my graduation,
and clearly I was giving two to my parents who
supported me, one to my grandma, one to my brother,
and the last ticket I figured I would give to
my sister in law. However, with not hearing from them much,
I assumed that she would not want to go, and
she was not a big contributor to this milestone. My

(36:59):
best friend, however, was studying with me and cheering me
on twenty four to seven. But I decided to give
it to my sister in law because my brother was invited.
I came home from college one weekend and they were
over for dinner at my parents' house. As the sister
in law was leaving, I whispered to my mom if
it would be the right time to invite her to
my graduation. My mom said, clearly, do what you want, sweetie,
it's your decision. I then proceeded to ask my sister

(37:21):
in law if she and my brother would like to attend.
She gave me a weird look and asked the date
in a weird tone. I told her, and she said,
I probably can rushing out with my brother right behind her,
she can show up at like nine o'clock.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
Yeah, exactly, Like.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
Oh sorry, I was sitting my hair done right, It's
like everyone's gone, We're.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
Graduated in this I already walked yeah, like at twelve
right coming back to this.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
Later, a few months after my parents and I, in
little to no contact with my brother, learned that they
had moved back into my sister in law's parents' house.
This was shocking because they had been living there for
months and did not tell us. My brother said words
that he would never use towards my parents. We thought
you would judge us. My parents were in fact not
judgmental and understood about saving money, but were more appalled

(38:10):
by the thought that my brother was not living where
he said he was. My graduation announcement was sent to
their apartment, and when it was sent back, they lied,
telling me that their mail system still had a few
things they needed to sort out.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
It was a crazy shock.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
Nonetheless, I graduated and was prepping to move to a
different state for a graduate school when they messaged my
mom randomly saying that they needed to talk.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
I remember this.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
Being a random evening this past summer when they sat
us down and started accusing each person of wrongdoing. First
was my father. They brought up the Halloween horror Nize
event that occurred, saying that he hated my sister in
law and would never welcome her into the family, which
was a complete lie. My father said that out of
defense for me and was angry in the spur of

(38:54):
the moment. Also, they accused him of being too judgmental
about their living situation, which he never spoke a peep about.
Then they started to accuse my poor mother of encouraging
the fact that I would not invite my sister in
law to my graduation. That is when I started getting
pissed I was inviting her and she took it out
of context. Sister in law started ranting about my mom

(39:16):
and how she was in the wrong. Then they both
looked at me. She mentioned the graduation invite, saying, even
if I did not want to go, my family still goes,
bringing it back to why her.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
Family was better.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
What even if I did not want to go, my
family still goes. She's saying that, like her family would
go to Ope's graduation.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know what that means. It
doesn't make any sense, but it's is not a contest.
I digress.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
Sister in law then started getting angry at my constant
messaging for my brother to hang out by himself with me.
My brother joined in, saying that they are a pair
now and need to be invited together.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
I don't like any of this. They were invited to
the graduation. I'm confus.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
I think this is now like they're both the graduasure happened. Yeah,
this is now about just hanging out in general, just
hang out just with the brother.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
This is so silly. This is so silly. That's also ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (40:13):
I can see all the manipulation behind it, of all
the isolation twisted a big no.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
No. Yeah, she's trying to twist it because he seems
like he was like super when he first called him,
he was like super apologetic and was like, oh my god,
I'll just you know, have fine, I'll find out. And
then after that there was this huge switch, right, and
I feel like she got her her hooks in them.

Speaker 5 (40:36):
Yeah, she got offended and then she was like, oh no,
they're all against me, and now she needs some sort
of validation or something like that by by convincing him
that they're all against both of them. Yeah, and it's
like no, what now, No, No, that's so hard to see.
That isolation. Man, that's rough. I said that that.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
Is fine, but I also want to do things with
just you.

Speaker 5 (40:57):
Sister in law did not take that well, which was
not a good sign. They left more talkative and nicer
to us after they simply pointed fingers at us. The
next part of the story is where I got crazy.
I hate getting sentences like that.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
I wanted to be like in the next part of
the story. My brother apologized and we figured it out.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
Everyone held hands in the sunset together and said together,
Oh my gosh. Sister in law and my brother came
back for a family dinner right after that weird meeting,
the first.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
In a while.

Speaker 5 (41:31):
I am about to move, and they brought over a
bag for Father's Day. They also brought a gift for
my mom, which I thought was a belated Mother's Day
gift because they didn't get it or anything.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
Inside, they announced that they were having a baby. I
knew it. I knew it. I knew I was coming.
I freaking knew it was coming. Man, let us know
in the chat if you also knew, do you know it?
Because we knew it.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
I'm in pain right now. Yeah, this is hard. We
had no clue what to say. We were happy, but
just shocked. After hugging them and giving our congratulations, I
went to my room. They clearly did not talk with
us for months because they were angry, but decided to
confront and make up with us because they were having
a baby. We did not even know that they were

(42:13):
mad in the first place. We had just gotten used
to no contact because sister in law is controlling of
every little thing my brother does. Flash forward, Everything is fine,
I guess in terms of the normal dynamic.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
It is the fall and the baby shower is coming up.

Speaker 5 (42:27):
I was nervous because I had to tell them that
I would not be able to make it because of
my classes. Fortunately it did not seem to matter, but
that sounds kind of sad. My parents had a wedding
that they already planned to attend, but drove down the
next day so that they would be able to attend
their first grandchild's baby shower.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
They were very excited.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
Sister in law rented out a wedding venue discount through connections,
but still expensive. My parents, yet again, out of the
kindness of their hearts, gave them money for the baby shower.
My mom asked if she could invite people, and sister
in law gave her a limit. My mom invited thirtyish
people minus me. Sister in law invited over seventy five.
This is a giant baby shower. Oh my goodness, yows

(43:06):
us in the seventy five?

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Yeah, they they got a wedding venue for a baby shower.
That's kind of insane. And they're gonna have one hundred people.
And did they say who's paying for it?

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (43:16):
I think probably they were paying for it. But the
parents Opie's parents are like giving them so much. Of course,
that's what I thought. Yeah, in exchange for being able
to advise some people. My parents attended and they said
that they were glad I did not come because I
would have been banished to the background. Just like the wedding.
They hung out with the few people that did come
from their invites. But again this was not enough for

(43:38):
sister in law and my brother. Apparently during their opening
of presents, my brother was not able to get their attention.
At the same time, did not try too hard. He
got mad that they were not present for the opening
of their gift. My parents were stuck all the way
the freaking back. For Christ's sake, what do you expect,
like grandparents should be in the front.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
Absolutely, absolutely twenty people at this party.

Speaker 5 (44:01):
Yeah, but it's like that's people that you would find
and be like, Okay, you got to come here.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
I want you here. Yeah, Like hey, you don't feel like, hey,
someone's seen my mom. Yeah. They like I don't know,
and you're like, okay, well that's it. They're like as
hard as I'm trying at the very end of the room,
and you're like.

Speaker 5 (44:15):
Hey mom, Mom, Ah, she didn't, she didn't keep ignoring me,
keep going.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:23):
Anyways, after the baby shower, my mom called and asked
if they got the extra money as she put in
the cart. My brother validated that he got the check,
but then proceeded to ask my mom if she would
be willing to purchase a five hundred dollars car seat
on top of what my parents did.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
I'll let that sink in. Bro, just go to Target.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
Why do you need this premiere car seat and Lulu
Lemon diaper bag? What Lululemon diaper bag? I think it
is still some very solid diaper bag. I had no idea, dude,
I'm looking this up while you read. Yeah, please do
I think it is sister in law asking you to
ask mom for sure? Now almost caught up to the
story in the title.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
I just pretty nice. It's actually pretty nice, but Lulu Lemon.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
You don't even need Lulu Lemon leggings. Those are still overpriced.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
Yeah, a diaper bag, I feel like I could get
a cheaper one that still does the job. I kind
of just need, like any backpack I think. I mean, I've.

Speaker 5 (45:17):
Douvered a one, but like I'm it looks like a
backpack with some extra pockets.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
That's what it is. I guess it's just organizationally, it's easier. Maybe, yeah, maybe,
I'm sure there are alternatives that are other options for
than a Lulu Lemon bag.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
My parents received a call around Thanksgiving when they were
visiting me, asking if sister in law and my brother
could stay.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
At their house for the weekend.

Speaker 5 (45:37):
My parents, being the kind of people that they are,
said sure, we are not there anyways. Apparently my sister
in law's dog bit her brother's newborn, and this caused
her to have a big fight with her parents. WHOA,
my sister in law's dog bit her brother's newborn.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
Wow? Whoa, Oh my god, wild a newborn getting bit
by a dog. Oh my god, that's terrifying. Yikes, yikes,
sud Be So, I mean, oh my god, how do
you not know that? Your your dog is yeah, you
know like like bites people.

Speaker 5 (46:13):
Yeah, or just even any dog being around a newborn.
It's like your own watch. Yeah, you have to be
so carefully honestly. Also, parents should have been like, don't
like keep this dog regardless of how friendly the dog is. Absolutely,
and I mean we might find out a little bit
more about that situation, but I'm guessing that the whatever
it was, a sister in law was just like no,
like it's yeah, it's like, well, it's your dog, girl.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
Sorry.

Speaker 5 (46:38):
They packed up their stuff and moved into my parents'
house and staying with them till Christmas. During this time,
my mom did the dishes, helped watch their dog, and
a bunch of other chores on top of working.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
My mom would ask simple.

Speaker 5 (46:50):
Favors, like to go help her pick up her car
from the shop, but sister in law had a scheduled
lunch that she has every week with her brother and
her own sister in law. Sister in law would still
this is it her own family who she was angry with.
During the day, when my parents and brother were at work.
Talking to my brother, my dad agreed to help him
pay for a down payment for a home and readily.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
My brother agreed.

Speaker 5 (47:12):
Oh boy, the day I come home for Christmas, my
brother and sister in law were signing for a house
and moved out the very day I arrived. Do you
really think that we heard from them after Christmas?

Speaker 4 (47:23):
Not really.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
Even though my parents decided to help with the house
and try to bridge this disconnect, they were back to
square one. I had already given up on my relationship
with my brother, but for them, I wanted it to
get better. They now have a house and the baby
is due soon this month. However, a new silent treatment
has begun. My parents have now been accused of being
too controlling and have given my brother anxiety when it

(47:47):
comes to judging him. My brother is now in therapy,
but all he discusses is how my father expects more
from him, and how his father hates his wifeikes yike yuey.
Who knows what he says about my mom? And I
called him this week after hearing that he was not
talking to my parents. I tried to hear his side,
but he was accusing them of things that they have
never said and never even would. He even brought up

(48:09):
the Halloween hornites again, and how my father was horrible
to my sister in law, saying that they still dwell
on it. It seems that he has lost sight of
who our parents are and that sister in law is
feeding him lies. I feel the person I am talking
to is not even him.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
Oh this is this is getting sad now eahn they
have like a good relationship. I feel like, yeah, before
this they yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:32):
Man, I confronted him, angry that he would say such
things after our parents gave us a loving home and
have done so much for us despite their own hardships
in life.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
It is like he forgets that my parents.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
Are loving and kind people who would give up their
lives for us and.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
Also like paid for his wedding. Yeah, they contributed a lot.

Speaker 5 (48:51):
Yeah, and this thing is like the Halloween Hornites saying
has got to be at least like two years past. Yeah,
this is ridiculous. Like this, oh my gosh. You know
it's not ridiculous is the fact that we are.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
We got full episodes of stories just like this.

Speaker 5 (49:06):
Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, your favorite podcast app
and search.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
Okay, story time.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
We have given up our lives for you, and I
think that's the one, the one time we'll make that exception.
We've got days and days, even weekdays, even weeks over
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bit more to the story. Have any final thoughts before

(49:34):
we move on.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
I'm really hoping that eventually the brother comes around and
realizes that he's in this kind of toxic relationship that
is pulling him away from his familial relationships. Yeah, and
other relationships as well.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
Yeah, but I don't know if that's gonna happen. I
don't know, man, Yeah, that's just hard.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
She's obviously this is like textbook manipulation, textbook, you know,
hanging on to one little thing from soul long ago
and having that be like the reason for everything. And
then it's like and she's probably saying, like, oh, well,
this all wouldn't have happened if you just didn't say
that that one time two years ago.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
It could be Yeah, that's just oh man. I really
hope he's okay. But there is a bit more.

Speaker 5 (50:16):
I did not tell my brother anything bad about his
wife and only confronted his odd behavior. Sister in law
now blocked me on Instagram for no reason after that conversation.
I find that there is some deeper meaning of control
going on, and she would prefer that our family is
out of his life. I would love to see my
nephew and have my parents be awesome grandparents, but there
is some weirdness constantly happening. We feel like we are

(50:38):
walking on eggshells. So am I the a hole for
confronting him after all that has happened?

Speaker 4 (50:43):
And that's the end. That's our final question.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
Please please answer in the comments what you think?

Speaker 4 (50:50):
How what you think? The answer is? Am I? Or
is OP the a hole? No? I think no, No,
I don't think you were ever the a hole. You
literally just ask when they were coming. Yeah, yeah, like
that that's all you.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
Did, though, And I feel like in this kind of situation,
it's so hard with situations.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Like these because it's like you can't when.

Speaker 5 (51:11):
Someone's in like a toxic situation like this, It's like
you can't be like too overbearing and be like this.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
This person's terrible, you're doing this blah blah blah, because
then it's just more fuel for the fire, which I
think is kind of what happened. I mean, the dad
was like you should be careful who you get married
to and then it was like, ah, exactly exactly. But
it's like at a certain point, it's like if you
actively see.

Speaker 5 (51:30):
This person changing, like you'll want to say something about that.
Especially this is your brother, Like, this isn't just some
friend that you just like, I don't know, can part
ways with. This is your brother. So like, that's that's
really hard. So you're definitely not the ahole. You're doing
the best you can. That's really all you can do
in the situation.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
Agreed. It may just be the thing that you.

Speaker 5 (51:48):
Just have to I don't know, just just I'm glad
you're you're not being too aggressive and just like letting
it happen kind of and then you know, trusting that
he'll just have to come to this conclusion himself or something.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
Yeah, and hopefully he comes to it soon, hopefully hopefully.
But that is the end of that story.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
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Speaker 4 (52:15):
First, my boyfriend cheated on me with my sister. Then
they continue to cheat on each other. Oh man, is
it worse that they cheated on each other and didn't
stay together? I feel like that's how it goes. It's
just the cycle of cheaters. It would it be better
if they cheated on OP and then like stayed together,

(52:36):
because it's like at least it was, you know, worth it. No,
it's still bad.

Speaker 5 (52:40):
Then she'd have to be reminded of that every Yeah,
this way, I hope he can be like you like
see freaking.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
Just torture each other. I twenty two female, have a
sister twenty five female, who has always made me miserable.
For context to my older sister we will call Emily,
has always liked younger guys and is my mom's prize child.
By the way, this comes from Maximum Dentist thirty five
ninety two and if you want to submit your own stories,
got our slash okay, storytime separate it So. A few

(53:07):
years ago I had a guy best friend will call Drew.
I fell deeply in love with him. After six months
of viking him, he asked me to be his girlfriend.
I was over the moon when he asked me, and
my sister was happy for us, as she was also
in a relationship at the time with a boy we
will call Tyler. As Drew and I grew close, I
noticed him and my sister got closer as well. Uh oh,

(53:28):
my sister always suggested we go on double dates. Not
even two months into our relationship, I noticed strange behaviors
between my sister and my boyfriend. I had a talk
with Tyler about it, and he agreed he was not
comfortable with how they acted around each other. I told
Tyler that my sister has a history of manipulating and
cheating on guys. I told him to be careful of

(53:48):
her because I actually liked him as a person. I mean,
now you take that as Tyler as the boyfriend. Side note,
he was my friend before he ever met her, and
he was the closest in age she's ever been with.
Drew All always reassured me that he never had any
kind of feelings for Emily and agreed not to be
around her so much. Emily wasn't the only issue though.

(54:08):
At this time, I still trusted Emily, but did not
trust her friends as they are known home wreckers. I
wouldn't trust Emily if her friends are known home wreckers.
Yeah you are. Yeah, by the transit of property. Yeah.
One day I asked to use my boyfriend's phone, but
he refused. I thought I was suspicious and grilled him
on why he wouldn't let me use it. I know,

(54:30):
not the best way to communicate with your partner, but
I was young and dumb. He eventually confessed that one
of Emily's best friends, a girl who I was also
very close to at the time, had been asking him
to have a thing with her and her friend because
they were prettier than me. Oh no, big red flag
baggrad flag Emily's best friend. Oh my god, So Emily's

(54:52):
best friend asked, oh, he's boyfriend for a little a
little action because they were like that much. That's ikey.
That is really ichy. You showed me messages from weeks
before and refuse to let me see their present conversations.
That's suspicious. He began hanging out with that girl and
her friends frequently, which made me very uncomfortable. I'm sorry.

(55:16):
The second that like a partner shows you like messages
from people saying I want to have a threesome without
your partner, yeah, like without ope, yeah, and also that
they're prettier than ope, I'd just like no, No, I'd
be like absolutely, I mean, like, you can hang out
with them, but I'm I don't want to continue this relationship.
If you do, yeah, that would not be that's so

(55:38):
very comfortable. Yeah, absolutely, But I dismissed it because he
would guilt me into being okay with it by saying
things like you have to trust me to be a
good girlfriend, or you're so controlling, or I'm assuming trust
me to be a good boyfriend, or you're so controlling.
About four months into our relationship, I thought it would
be funny to switch phones with Emily and text Drew.
She at first was hesitant, but then agree it would

(56:00):
be funny. Her only condition was that she had to
know what I was saying. I began texting him as
if I were her and asking funny questions and stupid things. Suddenly,
my sister got a text from her friend group about
my boyfriend. The message explained how our friends thought Emily
and Drew would have made the perfect couple and how
they should have kissed when they played Truth or Dare
at their last hangout. Why are they at twenty five

(56:22):
years of age playing truth or Dare with someone who
has a partner.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
And one of those dares is to give a cuz
I don't like that high school.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
I immediately texted Drew as my sister, asking if he
wished he had kissed her that night. He told me
he wished he had kissed her and that I still
would jail jail. I then got mad at my sister
and went into the bathroom with her phone. I started
to flirt with him to seize reaction, and he flirted back. Suddenly,
I wasn't getting responses, and my sister desperately wanted her

(56:53):
phone back. When she gave me my phone back, I
went into the deleted messages and saw that she had
told him I had her phone and was pretending to
be her. I almost lost my crab then and there,
but me being my young and dumb self, I let
the two of them convince me to forgive them and
let it go. Girl. My gosh, girl, he confessed to
wanting to cheat on you and that he was interested

(57:14):
in your sister. Yeah you saw him flirting'. The two
of them eventually began hanging out alone together almost every day,
and I became very jealous. Yet if I even talked
to a boy, I would be scolded by Drew, and
if I hung out with anyone other than him, he
would yell at me and say I didn't love him.
And then my friends mattered more to me than him.
I literally hate this man's tribute. Shit, we always what happens.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
I hate this always projects yeah, and they always it
just they just turned out.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
It's ah ah. I forgot to mention that by this point,
Tyler had broken things off with my sister and she
banned me from talking to him because he broke up
with her. And there is an update, But man, oh man,
is this annoying? Ope? If this update isn't you breaking
up with your boyfriend? I don't want it, please, I

(58:08):
don't want it. Please. Five months into our relationship, one
of Emily's friends got a boyfriend. He was a very
attractive and sweet guy and all the girls in the
group swoon for him. We'll call him Liam, and he's
also younger than me. Liam is very important to the
story and other stories I would love to share. Our
six month mark came, and so did my birthday. Liam
attended my party without his girlfriend, and Emily could not

(58:30):
keep away from him. I told his girlfriend and she
was extremely angry at Emily. But at my party, Emily
was also all over my boyfriend and I barely got
to talk to him. A week after that, my sister
invited Drew and Liam to a party with her friends,
including the friend who asked him to cheat on me
with her. I told him I wasn't comfortable with him going.
He immediately told me I was controlling him and I

(58:51):
wouldn't let him do anything with his wife. Minutes later,
I was getting texts from my sister or her friends
and calls from my family. The texts that were getting
were how horrible I was as a girlfriend for not
letting him go to the party. I told him he
could go to the party, it's his choice, but I'd
rather be there with him since I didn't trust my
sister's friends. My mom called me home, and when I
got there, she said that Emily had told her about

(59:12):
the party and that I was horrible and controlling for that,
and that I needed to let my boyfriend live his
life where he can live his life alone. There you go,
got the mom on board. Yeah, on, who's lying to
this lady? Honestly, my mother made me believe it was
all my fault and that I needed to leave him
because I was manipulative and controlling. I broke down, ran

(59:33):
out and called Drew to tell him we were over. Good. Oh, good.
Oh my gosh. I wouldn't stop crying and apologizing to
him while he listened with not a care in the world.
He went to the party with my sister but still
kept in touch with me. Emily sent me a video
of them dancing together and hugging at the party, which
really hurt. Why would you do that, wow, psycho? Oh

(59:55):
my god, gosh. I still wanted to be with him,
so I told them, and he said he still loved
me and suggested we get back together. He said I
should stay away from other guys and fix myself so
he could get back with me soon. Oh so now
he's putting it on her. Now. He's like, well, you
need to so you need to be that you need
to work out because right now you're not letting me

(01:00:17):
get with your sister, and that's a problem.

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
Yeah, He's like, like, you have you were the problem.
You have to change so that I can get better.
It's like, that's simply never how it works out.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
Emily and Drew hung out every day without me after that.
A week after the breakup, I saw them holding hands
in a store. Another week went by and I caught
them hooking up in her car. They began to just
kiss and hold hands in front of me, which broke
my heart because I was still deeply in love with him.
I told her I wasn't okay with it, but she
told me it's not up to me and that they
love each other. I don't think that's gonna last. Really,

(01:00:49):
it always ends how it begins. Uh huh. Emily told
me that I wasn't good enough girlfriend to him and
that he deserves someone better like her. They became exclusive,
but soon cheated on each other. They didn't last a
month of you see, Dan, there you go. I don't
understand the thought process of like getting together and then
immediately cheating like a month and you could break up, yeah,

(01:01:13):
or just like never make it official.

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
Yeah, just be like yeah, no, we're just like having fun.
We're just a situation ship.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
But if you can do whatever you want, dude. Yeah.
It's important to note that he cheated on her with
one of her friends, and she cheated on him with Liam,
who was also still dating her friend. His friend group
man Messy Messy. Liam and Emily are now together, Oh
my goodness, and have been for about two years. Wow.
Going strong. In the span of this time, I have
caught Emily cheating on Liam twice, never mind going very weak.

(01:01:43):
I even got pictures of cuddling and kissing other guys.
I obviously told them immediately and sent them the pictures
because I believe cheating is a terrible thing, but he
said he loved her, so would rather forget about it. Liam, dude,
I mean, you also cheated on your girlfriends, so like,
probably don't have that many moral qualms, but yeah, come on. Yeah.
Just about a month ago, some of my sister's old
friends reached out to me because they all hate her

(01:02:05):
for being with Liam and confess that my sister had
been hooking up with Drew toward the end of our relationship,
and that Emily and Drew made it clear to the
group they hated me and also planned on getting together again.
They even showed me screenshots as proof. I finally feel
validated for feeling insecure and telling him I wasn't comfortable
with him being around her so much. I am now
starting to tell others as it still gets brought up.

(01:02:27):
It has caused drama and people to stop talking to
my sister. Emily and my mother are now telling me
i'd need to not bring it up that it's in
the past, so it doesn't matter. I've finally come to
realize it wasn't my fault and I was just trying
my best as a girlfriend and a sister. I left
out many other terrible details of ways Drew and Emily
hurt me during that time period. This is just a
fraction of what my sister has done to me, and

(01:02:48):
I think it's time I stopped talking to her because
talking to her only makes me miserable, and also talking
to her she steals your boyfriend. Yeah, as she just
degrades me and goes off on me. But you know
who you guys should talk to us and you can
listen to full episodes with stories just like that, this
and that. Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, you your
favorite podcast app and search up. Okay, story time, do it?

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Do it?

Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
Tath a little bit more to this story. But OHI,
oh my boy, oh.

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
Boy, hoy yy yay is just like kind of crazy
because there's like so much going on. It all started
with like what happened with Opie and the boyfriend, and
then it's like it's just continuing on for the rest of.

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
The group chat like everyone else is just dipping their
fingers and all the byes.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
Yeah, it's just, oh my gosh, she's just like watching
this all unfurl. Yeah, it's wild, Like, uh okay, but
there's a little bit left after all of this.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
I am now with the absolute love of my life
and fiance, who refuses to even talk to Emily, knowing
what she has done to me. He's like, I can't
let her get her her hooks into me. I've got
to stay away from Emily. No surprise, when she somehow
got his number and hit on him, he blocked her
and told me immediately, good amazing. I couldn't be more
grateful for him. Still to this day, my mom and

(01:04:10):
sister stick by their statement that she did nothing wrong
and that I was the terrible and controlling girlfriend who
should just let go. Am I the able for exposing
my sister for hooking up with her my now ex boyfriend,
and there is that is actually no, there's nothing more, okay.
That is the end of the story.

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