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00:00 r/AITAH - AITAH for forcing my fiancé into cutting off his late wife’s family?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Cowboys Sam, and this is Eh John. And
we've last showed in some amazing stories for y'all the
Okay Storytime podcasts. But before that we got a wrangle,
a quick little two minute out break from those bucking sponsors.
We bucking love so much and they're paid us the
books to help this show stay alive. My fiance's late
wife's family is obsessed with him. It's becoming a problem.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
He's just too cool.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I twenty five female, am getting married to my fiance
twenty nine Mail and met. When we first got together,
he told me that he was married from twenty to
twenty two years old to his high school sweethearts. We
met when he was twenty five, but she passed away
from sepsis due to a botched surgery. That is so sad.
(00:45):
Pay didn't cope well and stayed in contact with her family,
namely her father and two sisters nineteen and twenty four.
By the way, this comes from cut Off Family Away
And if you want to submit your own stories, go
to the r slash Okay Storytime stubret it. So it
was a side spot for me for a while at
the beginning because there was so much history they had
that we would not have, and it was tough knowing
(01:07):
that she was all around him red flag. I never
told him and decided to work through it on my own,
especially with the fact that he would often spend time
with her family during our relationship. Her birthday, their anniversary,
and the anniversary of her death. He'd spend the day
with her family three days. It was uncomfortable at first
knowing the man I loved was reminiscing about love he
(01:30):
had with someone else, but I kept trying to see
it from his perspective, so if he is locked in
on the pundit square, I can see her. But the
last couple of years, I've been completely secure in a
relationship and it doesn't bother me much anymore. He proposed
this time last year, and I was over the moon.
I love this man with all my heart, but I
recently learned that he never told them the family of
(01:50):
his girlfriend that we got engaged, his ex girlfriend, his
dead girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
That's not good.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I've been trying local coffee shops for the past few months,
rather than my usual run and try to one. His
late wife's sister worked there, and other than being awkward,
she did a double take of my engagement ring and
looked really unhappy. I didn't mention it and left.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
See that's the problem they were going to find out.
He should have been the one to tell them.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
My fiance told me that she kept messaging him on
social media about it, and I wasn't happy that he
kept a secret. He apologized, and it was very depleted
by it all. He said that he didn't want to
hide me, but didn't want to hurt them either, and
that both of us were a huge part of his life.
And I understand that and let him off the hook slightly.
Just told him to be upfront with them from now on.
(02:35):
That was that, at least I thought so. A week
ago on Sunday, I got a message, I'm listening. Stop
sending things in chat about blood types. You're distracting her.
I got a message from the twenty four year old
asking if I was happy with myself, that I would
never replace his late wife and that if she was
still alive, he'd choose her over me every time. Yikes.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Come on.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
She even said that he only kept me around for
my money and something to stick his dong in. I
ignored it, but I can't say that it didn't affect
me when you're in my position. All these points are
ones you have to work through, and it's not easy
to get over those insecurities. It feels like a knock
in the teeth when they're used against you. I mentioned
(03:21):
it to him, and he comforted me and reassured me.
He said he'd set boundaries with her and that I'd
never hear from her again. Fine by me.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
A big part is on her fiance. Yeah, he had
communicated earlier. Maybe we could have at least mitigated.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
That was until I found out my car with the
word or salutes O whre and grave robber.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
These people need therapy so bad in red paint. I'm sorry.
Did they expect him to remain celebrate for the rest
of his life because because his partner.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Passed, maybe they expected him to run through the family.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
You know, maybe that's what the sister thought.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
At least, Oh, the sister that's writing that wanted O
piece fiance for herself. Ho. I had saved for this
car for a year and it was expensive, very expensive.
The tires were slash, the windows cracked. I asked the
store a few doors down for their CCTV camera footage
of that night, but it was blurry and didn't catch much.
(04:31):
I did manage to catch half a license plate, though,
and the color and make of a car. It was
late wife's youngest sister's car.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, take him a court.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I told him I was filing a police report, and
he asked me to hold off until he talked to
them first. I told him no, but I would if
they paid for the damages and apologized to my face.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I think that's fair. I think that's fair, like absolutely not.
The only way that I'm not filing a police report
if they'd pay for the car.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
He set up the meeting for last night, and it
did not go well, to say the least. Everyone was shouting.
The sisters told me they guess both of them had
nothing to be sorry for, and that I should leave
their family alone, including my fiance and their family. He
told them that it wasn't fair to him to be
lonely forever and that he'd hoped they'd be supportive of
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him finding love again. They told him he was betraying
late wife and that he never loved her. If he'd
marry someone else, they didn't have a problem with him
having a new girlfriend because he'd realize she was the
only one for him and get tired of me.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
She's traumatized by losing the late wife. They need there
be so bad.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
And now that that hadn't happened, they were putting their
foot down. So they were hoping he would see the
light and be like, oh, I'll just you know, be
with late wife's ghosts forever. The youngest told him to
tell me that they were right and that he'd never
love anyone like late wife. My fiance broke down at
the table. I picked him up and made us leave.
I told them I'd be finally report and suing for
(05:59):
damages and the next time they saw us would be
in court. When we got back and calm down, I
gave him an ultimatum. Is this the time to give
the ultimatum? It sounds like he was prey the whole things.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I need to know what the ultimatum is.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Well, the ultimatum either he cuts contact or we call
off the wedding and go our separate ways. I wasn't
going to live my life with this pestor mens and
someday subject my children to their bullying. He said they
would never bully a child, but I shot him down
and said he didn't expect any of this either. He
called their father, who was fairly chill about it all,
but still defending his daughters. They say I shouldn't control
(06:32):
him and that I'm horrible for cutting them off. I
don't know what to do. I can't live like this,
and I don't think I should have to just because
we're getting married and there's an updates. Yeah, what do
we think about that ultimatum?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
We know we don't like ultimatums on this show. Yeah,
I think what you are asking for, reasonable in general,
is reasonable. He has to cut them off because they
are being crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I agree that he has to cut him off. I
just wonder about the time like he it sounded like
he was pretty broken from this whole thing. Give him
a chance to recover, and then give him the ultimatum,
like the next day or something. Hey, everyone, there's a
mini update to clear some things up before I have
a discussion with my fiance either later today or tomorrow
about my ultimatum. I didn't sleep at all yesterday or
the night before for obvious reasons. There's a ding on
(07:19):
my phone at least once an hour from them saying
one thing or another. Mainly the nineteen year old, and
I don't know what they've told people, but I've got
messages from one of their uncles and grandparents calling me
horrible stuff too, So obviously they've been spreading what's happened
this week and twisting it. I haven't blocked them because
I want to gain as much evidence as I can
for the inevitable case. Regardless of any outcome with my fiance,
(07:42):
I will be suing and filing a criminal case for
pestorments and vandalism and looking for a restraining order. I
just haven't had the mental fortitude to do so yet.
I'm hoping my fiance will help me. I haven't spoken
to my fiance since the argument at the table, other
than to tell him this or I do. It was
my choice to give him a couple of days space
(08:03):
to come to terms with everything, and I will contact
him when I'm ready. All this from the first message
till now has been a week. It's a huge weight
to contemplate leaving people you've known for fifteen years and
who you grew up with. I think it's really cool
that Ope recognizes that, yes, I feel like that's an
important correction.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
She understands that there is a weight here.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, he did set hard boundaries with the sister from
the coffee shop. As I've seen the messages. He said, paraphrasing,
you have no talk. You have no right talking to
Opie at all. If this is how you're going to
behave she doesn't deserve this and you've gone too far.
Why are you acting like this? And she responded with
more name calling him back and forth. He ended by
saying not to message me again and to make sure
everyone else does the same. I was happy with that.
(08:43):
At this point, only one person in the family had
an issue to my knowledge, so it was silly to
have him cut all them off. It may not be
enough for some, but it was enough for me to
feel safe and comfortable. For those saying he needs therapy
and counseling, he's already getting it good. That's good. That's good.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I'm honestly, I think they need therapy in counseling.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
He's been getting it since before we even started dating.
After the incident at work. I don't know about any
of their family though, the first time I had a
conversation with any of them was that night. Some people
are wondering what late wife passed away of and it
was a batched weight loss surgery where she passed away
of sepsis.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
That's devastating. That's devastating. Oh, like maybe like gastron, you know, oh, devastating.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
People were wondering if he was somehow the reason behind
the surgery, hence the family's insane reaction, but he was
not in the slightest He likes bagger women and wouldn't
pressure something like that onto her. They are Yeah. I
also want to clear up that I'm not calling the
police about the car thing. It was entirely my idea
not to file charges in exchange for a face to
phase apology in damage payment. He only wanted me to
(09:53):
wait so that he could talk to her to see
if she regretted it, and then had the father pay
the damages. At the time, we thought it was just
an herold that smashed up my car, not both daughters.
Neither of us wanted to ruin her life. When I
found out it was both of them, it was full
steam ahead. Thank you for all your messages and hopefully
I'll have a positive update for you tomorrow. There is
an edit. There is more updates, But how do we
(10:16):
feel about like Op's update here. It seems like I
do like the space that she's giving for fiance and
recognize it.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I think he's also doing like making a lot of
moves to set boundaries. I still think that she should
absolutely go ahead with the restraining order and with the
police report, because they have refused to at all admit faults.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, I just I don't see a way that you
can preserve a relationship with his family. I just don't
see it. I chose for him to take this space apart.
It's not him being indecisive. I said to take time
and that i'd reach out so that his decision is
thought out. It's for me. I don't want to be
chosen only to be three kids down the line and
stuck in a resentment spilled mane. It's for me, Please
(11:01):
understand that. And we got an update two that we're
gonna jump straight into. So, well, what a wild morning
I've had. My fiance came over bright and early this morning,
and I've never been so danged higher. You may want
to take a seat because this one's gonna be long.
You said, See everyone is everyone popped and squatted pop squad.
(11:23):
So first of all, I want to set the record
straight here. A lot of people are coming for my
fiance over not cutting them off from the get go,
which I don't think is fair. He's a very mild mannered,
calm and calculating person, and that's who I always knew
he was. Nothing has changed. If he had been Rocky
Balboa and flipped the cafe table shouting obscenities, it would
(11:46):
not have been the man I fell in love with.
We love a mild mannered man, you know, a little
little superman Clark Kent kind of you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
No, exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
He did exactly what I expected him to do and
exactly what I was comfortable with. You may be attracted
to other things and men and expect other things, and
that's awesome, but not me. I love my men mild mannered,
like I like my hot sauce. Mild.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Can't do spicy.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Nope, I like my men mild and my women spicy.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
All right, put that on the shirts.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Somebody put that on a shirt updates. I text him
saying I thought it was time to discuss this, and
he was back at home not a half hour later.
He'd been staying with a friend for a couple of
nights and we had no contact. We sat on a
bed to talk because my back is sore from all
the packing and I wasn't going to force myself to
sit at the table. Before we even got to talking,
he asked if we could cuddle for a minute. Definitely
(12:37):
took some weight off and were able to talk like
a couple and not awkward strangers. Regardless of some people's beliefs,
we do love each other and took me a very
long time to feel confident in that fact before anyone
calls me a doormat again. No, I was still sure
I would stick to my ultimatum, and the first thing
I asked was if he felt he had enough time
to make his decision, and he said he didn't need time.
(12:58):
He was very shocked and bewilled at how so much
could change in just a week and how everything he
knew was shook up and he couldn't think and went numb.
He did apologize that he didn't take a more defensive
stance at the cafe, and he doesn't want to make
excuses for it. An explanation was that he genuinely didn't
expect such a vitriolic response, which I think is understandable.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
It's like a family that he's had been close to
for what was it, fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
It's a long long time time. It's a long time.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
And also probably like trauma bonded.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah too, I mean, because they all love his late
wife so much. Yeah, he hid the engagement because he
knew they weren't over late wife's death and would be
upset at the news. It wasn't like I would feel
upset by them not knowing, which I wasn't. Really. He's
known these girls since before they were in double digits,
and he would never have thought they were capable of it.
It came so far out of left field that he froze.
(13:55):
I asked him if there was any possibility that either
of them had a thing for him, and he looked
very confused and disturbed, which is what we thought. I
do think they got a thing for him. Yeah, maybe
they're fighting over who would get him, you know, I said,
how I've had people tell me it's not uncommon for
siblings to do this after a loss, and he thought,
on it turns out you were right nailed it. Do
(14:18):
you think there's any cheating?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
No, I think that we're just going to find out
that they had a crush on him. I don't think
that he would have cheated on I don't I don't
think that he would have cheated.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Well, he said. The twenty four year old, about eight
months after a late wife's death, made a move and
tried to kiss him. He immediately left and told her
mother about it. Mother and father are divorced now, but
weren't then. Her mother made her see the school counselor
and didn't allow her to be alone with him for
a while. It was years ago, so he'd forgotten it
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even happened. I don't know, he said. He was sure
that wasn't the case now because it had been so long,
But I'm not so convinced now that it matters anymore.
He opened up his Facebook and gave it to me
to read. Four year old had been messaging him, which
he ignored. She ranged from telling him off to crying
and saying how betrayed the family was trying to manipulate
him against me, blah blah blah. He said he was
(15:09):
sure that he needed to put them behind him. I
had been thinking it on and off since he proposed,
but couldn't bring himself to do it. After this week,
the fire was lit and he knew what he had
to do. It was all just abstract until suddenly it
was real. He asked me how I've been coping, and
I told him I felt like I'd done everything right,
but somehow things turned out worse than if I'd been
(15:31):
the jealous type and stop their contact at the beginning.
I tried to be understanding and put in so much
effort to be securing myself in a relationship, only for
everything I worked on to be thrown in my face
like I was a mistress that was cheating with him.
He didn't blink the entire time and just listened.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Ooh.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
He said he should have been more observant and realized
I was struggling with this so that he can help me.
But I've always been the strong one, so he neglected
to do so. And he'll do better as I've I've
seen in a few comments now. His parents had him
in their late forties and are retired. He hates to
involve them in negativity, but I was stunned when he
said he'd been talking to them about this since the
(16:11):
first Facebook method. They were very understanding, but his father
took a tough love approach. He said, the best quote
I think I've ever heard, get your act together before
the jig is up.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
That's the best quote you've ever heard.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Like they're better quotes.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Oh, He's like, Wow, that really spoke to me. I
don't think i've ever heard anyone say that before. You're right, Dad, or.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Your father in law, Papa wise, Woods of wisdom.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I will get my act together before the jig is up.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
They offered to come and stay for a while and
help us move. I don't think that's necessary, but I
really appreciate the thought. On the subject of moving. I
mean it clear that I would not be living in
this house any longer than I had to, and he
completely agreed. The house's late wife his parents offered to
find us a place in their state, and he wanted
to have more of a support network. And I'm honestly
considering it. After all this, They're only a state away
(17:00):
for my own family, so it would be a lot
better off. His job is remote and I should be
able to find work there easily enough. I've been in
contact with a friend who's a mechanic, and they've quoted
me between one to two thousand dollars or the damages.
But that's an at costs estimate as a discount. A
few people I've said to get a real statement and
to shop around. The real cost is between four and
five thousand, and that's just for the noticeable damage. My
(17:23):
friend thinks they've done something to the engine, so thank
God see them. I couldn't drive it anywhere breaking sue them.
He thinks I may be entitled to a replacement car altogether.
If so, I will be sure to sue for it good,
and that's not going to be cheap. After all the
emotional things that were discussed. He mentioned, when would I
be comfortable enough to go to the police? I made
(17:44):
it clear he was okay with that, or I go
on my own. He said the surest I've ever seen him,
that this is what we needed to be done, and
he wasn't going to let them continue. He had done
enough to try to shield them, but he wasn't going
to let it come at my expense. I'm currently in
the bath, frothing in bath bombs love, but we'll be
going to the station as soon as I'm done. He's
(18:04):
downstairs right now printing out the new quotes from the
mechanics and the messages the twenty four year old sent
him over the last couple of days, so we can
go prepare it. People have said that nothing will come
of it, and you may be right, but I have
to try, hoping my local police don't have anything better
to do. It's a small town, and to finish. And also,
by the way, we are far from finished. We're less
than halfway through to finish. I made a point of
(18:26):
asking again if he would cut them off or had
to go. He did not miss a beat and said
that they are no longer going to be part of
his life, even if I decided to leave. He did
ask for one last meeting to say goodbye to her
parents and to put a clothes on that part of
his life, and to explain to the girls that this
is not my fault, but his decision after seeing how
cruel they were capable of being. After that we would
(18:48):
block them on everything and move forward. And I was
completely fine with that. What do we think about the closure?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I think that's good.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I think that's good.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I think so. I think he needs it. Yeah, I
mean he already lost his wife in such like a.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
But I also feel like it almost feels like it
feels like, yes, it could give him closure, but it
almost feels like it's closure for the family, so sure
they don't act in weirder ways.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I agree. I think yeah. I think he's saying like, hey,
don't go over after my wife. This is my decision
and hopefully that works.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
So there we have it. Writing all this out and
being able to talk to people about everything has been
both helpful and a good distraction from the dumpster fire
that was my life, and everything worked out as well
as I could have hoped. Again, there's an update after this,
so we're going to get into more of the story.
We'll see how his meeting goes with them. Is it
gonna go well? I wonder. I'm sure they won't be
very happy about it, but that's not my problem. Thank
(19:37):
you all, and I'll update after they've met up and
there is let's freaking dive in another update. So it
seems I've been naughty because I got temporary banned on
here for three days in chat someone who's calling me
every derogatory and sexist term imaginable. But I was put
in time out for defending myself. I appealed, but the
appeal took the band time away. Oh well, sorry, this
(19:59):
update is taking so long for reasons stated above. So
we drove down to the police station with our block
of paperwork and had a couple hours talk. They were
so sweet about everything, as some of you expected. They
did say I should have come earlier, but they didn't
really care because it was only a few days. They
said that it often takes people about this amount of
time to actually file charges if they weren't in immediate
(20:21):
threat or danger. So unless someone was about to throw
the old one two's, this was par for the course.
I handed them everything and it looks like I've got
plenty of evidence. They'll be contacting my insurance on my
behalf to get the ball rolling so they can come
to a check of the car themselves, and then they
can open a claim with me if I want. They're
not filing a claim, they're just notifying about the criminal damages.
(20:42):
I filed criminal damages for pastor mento vandalism, and they'll
notify me with more details about my restraining order. This week,
my fiancee told the police that he was planning on
meeting with late wife's family and asked if that would
contradict my case, right, because he's like oh, is if
creating a relationship with them, you know, ur it's the
ability to get a restraining order whatever. Yeah, and they said, no,
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we're not married at the time of filing, so legally
we're two separate entities in this case or something. So
my car is totaled. My mechanic friend, I'm going to
call him Tom because I can't keep saying. My mechanic
friend and his partner at the shop did a full
check on my car and this is the damage they found.
So we're getting a full.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Full list of what's going on with this car.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Shattered windshield, four slash tires, two broken windows, paint obvious
I think, unknown substance in the engine, oil, and battered
body work.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
They did a number.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
They said, with this amount of damage, I should just
go for a new car. So that's what I'll be doing.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, and make sure they freaking pay for it.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Oh my god, that's so rough. If anyone is curious,
it's evolvough. I'd always wanted one and managed to buy
a new one two years ago. Either they get me
a new car or they'd be set back around sixty
thousand dollars. That's an expensive volve. What does the sixty
thousand dollars volver live like right now, Yeah, that's that's
an expensive Volvough the amount classifies the vandalism as a felony,
(22:08):
so they could be looking at jail time too.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Obviously clearly a felony.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
My fiance met with the family on Saturday and Tom
sat by the window. I currently live in a one
party state, so as long as my fiance consents, the
recording can be used in my case. While it may
not be as drama filled as some of you may want,
it was still pretty stressful to see. They met at
the same cafe that we did before, and Tom sat
a few tables away. Fiance arrived after their father and
(22:35):
before them for the best because they managed to have
a calm conversation for once. I thought it was gonna
blow up.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, I thought it was gonna be like how dare
you fight?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Fiance told him how he was feeling, and father in
law was very understanding but still trying to minimize. He
was saying things like, you know, they missed late wife,
and they'll come around. You just need time to come
to terms with you moving on. Kept trying to initiate
paying for the damages, but fiance wouldn't talk about it
until the sisters arrived. It was like butter wouldn't melt
with a twenty four year old, but nineteen came in
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like the Tasman devil. My fiance didn't acknowledge anyone until
it all settled down. Where then he said this would
be his last meeting with all of them and they'd
be going their separate rays. He turned to the girls
and said that he would miss who he thought they were.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
That that's kind of hit deep.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
That's got it for someone.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
To say, I miss who I thought you were.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Oh oh, that is a line.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
See that's that's a good line.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
That's a good line. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, when the act is over, the jig is up.
That's a bad lot. That's just a very SciTE.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah. I've heard that the mill, but I haven't heard.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
I miss who I thought you were.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
That is that cuts deep. But the way they could
treat people horrified him, especially me. He said that this
was all him and they needed to accept that I
was not to blame. He even said that it was
me who offered the apology in exchange for not filing charges.
The nineteen year old then interrupted, asking what charges, and
that no one was going to charge them for barely
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touching a car. She was a deer in headlights. When
he asked what they'd done to the engine oil, and
the two looked at each other. Seems they didn't expect
me to find out. H The groveling twenty four year
old tried to touch his hand and told him he
had to stop me pressing charges because this would ruin
her and interfere with the nineteen year old's college. Oh
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you should have thought about that, he said. It was
too late, and the cops should be issuing a warrant soon.
It can take a few days. I thought it was
an instant thing, but apparently not. This is when their
dad got involved and said for everyone to calm down
and fix this like adults. Now. He wants his girls
to be adults. I see. He asked if fiance would
convince me to drop the charges in exchange for that apology,
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and he'd pay the damages. When my fiance said it
was sixty thousand dollars. The eyes he gave to those
women would shave the hair off a cat. The video
wasn't the best, but I swear I could see the
color drain from their faces. It may sound awful, but
I enjoyed it. Call me what you will. They kept
going on about apologizing and that they'd pay, but he
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just said it was too late and he was done.
He tried to be civil, but they were the ones
that wouldn't let him go. The twenty four year old
actually asked him to set up a meeting with me
so they could get to know me and put it
all behind us. What crocodile tears? You know?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Too late?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Too late late? Memj grow says, play a dog games?
Oh win adult prizes?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yup? Sorry, you gotta pay that sixty thousand now.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
He didn't reply, and after the silence, they piped up again, like,
so she won't even meet us, so she's behind all
this because she doesn't want us around. We'll see about that.
Not using the exact quotes because I don't know if
I'm allowed, so not risking it thinks that's it went
on and on. Frankly, it was funny more than harmful,
but they didn't incriminate themselves. More and more for my
pestorment case. And the nail on the coffin was the
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nineteen year old said, if we can do that to
a car, Imagine what else we could do?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Threat? Threat, threat, threat?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
How are you talking like a mob boss?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Nineteen year old girl going? If we could destroy your car,
imagine what we could do to a person.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Imagine if your shoes were filled.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
With Magine that your body was that car.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Imagine that your body was at the bottom of it.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Would that your body was that vovo That we could
do a whole lot of damage.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
The V ninety cross country and MSRP is around sixty thousand.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Imagine that those slash dies were your arms and the
engine oil was your blood. I could do a whole
lot of damage.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Oh lot, That, my friends, is both a confession and
a threat of bodily harm. My fiance said one loud
stop before wishing father in law well and telling the
girls to not come near me. Then got up left,
and that's where the recording ends, because you wouldn't be
able to use anything afterwards. Anyway. As for moving, we're
pretty much all packed up and have a truck coming
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on Friday. We'll be staying with his parents until we
find a place. We're looking at buying this time, but
might get an RV in the meantime, so we're not
all stepping on each other. I doubt his parents would
mind it all. But this is the last update for
a while. I think I have a wedding to finish,
a venue, to change, new invites, etc. In less than
two months to do it all. Send help, but thank
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you all for being ears and helping me to get
through this. It only distracts me from ruminating and digging
a huge mental hole. I guess what, Sophia, what you
thought it was over?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I thought it was over.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
You thought it was done.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I thought it was done.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
But there is a fourth update. But there's a fourth update,
come and right up your little buttercups, So strap in.
But what do we think about this meeting? So we
decided that it was good to have a final send off.
What do you think about how oh he responded the
family and how the family responded to him.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
You beat Ope's field too?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Oh pis fiance?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah? I think that was all brilliant. I think not
only was it a final send off, but it was
a way to now get you know, even more evidence evidence. Yeah,
and clearly these people are more than a little crazy. Yeah,
yike seg seggs, they're threatening bodily harm.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
So update four, Sam here og host. We're gonna get
back to these stories, but here's three minutes fads from
our sponsors. First. So it's been a while. Guys, calling
the past few months a roller coaster wouldn't quite do
a justice. A lot has happened, and I hope I
don't leave anything out here it goes. So, first, we
moved away. We're only a couple of towns over from
my husband's parents legally, but we kind of just live
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in their backyard and my own are a state over Hallujah.
It's been really great living in our own new RV,
and we've been able to take small trips now and
then too, which has been a great breather. Took a
chunk out of our house savings, but we're not too
worried about it. Looking for a house has been fun too.
I can't speak to what have happened, but by a
stroke of luck, the warrants came through the day before
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our moving day, and the sisters spent the whole move
in police custody. I'm sure it was not as formal
as cuffs and interview rooms, but I'd like to imagine
it that way. So we didn't have to deal with
any drama that for sure would have happened otherwise. As
I said before, we didn't block them because we wanted
to keep the line open for more evidence. M boy,
was that a good idea? The nineteen year old has
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only now just stopped sending me my messages. Start off
with pleading and hoping for a meetup, then went to
calling me names and such for trying to ruin her life.
But the past few weeks have been pure rage, which
has been draining, if entertaining. She says she'll find me
and I'd better watch my back. Blah blah blah. My
printer has been working overtime. As you can imagine, so
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many receipts to give to my lawyers.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
She just keeps digging her own freaking grace.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I know, I know, I mean, hey, Opie's case is
a rock solid, rock solid, so many receiepts to give
my lawyer. The two twenty four year old is still
working on. My husband reached ahead a few days ago
before the wedding. We should have changed the dates, but
it just wasn't feasible. We had family from all over
that had taken time off work and we really wanted
everyone to be there after what happened. She tried to
call my husband over a dozen times and actually left
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two voicemails. She was crying and hyperventilating, saying how she
didn't want to lose him. For those of you who
said she still had a thing for him in Dingdong.
My husband listened to the voicemails with me, and she
just rambled. It was actually quite sad. She said that
she always thought they would be together because they've been
through so much together and it felt right. She blamed
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him for leading her on and making her fall for him,
only to choose someone else that he hardly knew. She
even said she felt replaced, which made me uncomfortable. All
this all the while degrading him for betraying his late
wife by moving on at all. I genuinely do not
understand her logic. As for my car, we found out
what the unknown substance was. It was anti freeze. The
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entire engine was written off and with everything else. My
insurance launched a case against them for the cost of
a new car. I was expecting sixty thousand dollars or so,
but Tom, my mechanic friend, said to ask for more
based on the current market value and such and they
came back with a new offer, seventy five thousand dollars. Yes, keon,
(31:20):
what's a seventy five thousand dollars olive?
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I look like, Oh no, I'm too hot hot, let
me look it up.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
It took over a month for the money to hit
my account, but I got it. Seventy five big ones.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Dang man, you won.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
As for the case, I'm no longer going after them
for repayment my insurances, so that's one less thing I
have to worry about. As far as I know, their
father is paying for the legal fees, but I doubt
he'll pay back the insurance company for them. There is
still a case against them for pesterment and threatening behavior,
and I'm suing for the money it took to move
away and the emotional stress. My lawyer says they'll be liable,
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and it's looking like they want to settle. I don't
feel great about going for emotional distress, but after everything
they've done, it was surely yeah, emotionally.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Distressing threatened you multiple times.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
The courts are moving slowly, so I don't have anything
new on the criminal case yet other than that they
are going to plead guilty. Shouldn't be long now, and
it's looking like they're getting probation and mandatory anger management,
not a stint in jail, but oh well, at least
they'll both have a record. My husband has been down
for a while since we left, but he hasn't wavered
in supporting me.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Helb you husband, I think he's allowed to feel a
little down.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
He's getting back to his old self now that he's
settling at work, and he's enjoying being closer to his parents.
It's been great for our relationship too, because we all
get on so well. And if you want to get
on well with us, you should listen to full episodes
of stories just like this. Go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts,
or your favorite podcast app and search. Okay, storytime, there's
another relevant updates. But how are we feeling about where
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things are ending up?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I think that everyone, I mean op and her partner
have taken all the right steps here. I think Opie's
partner felt a little bit of he was unsure about it,
like he wasn't. He didn't go full steam ahead into
cutting them off because they were really important part of
his life.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, and I understand that. I understand that, but I
feel like he's kind of made all the right moves
since then.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, like once he realized, oh they are a huge problem,
let's pump the brakes, let's get them out of my life,
he did all of that, you know, So I think
all of the right steps.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
How it was made, all the right steps. What a
crazy family to be, like to.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Crazy to find out that they were this crazy all
after fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I could understand maybe, you know, the twenty four year
old being crazy, but the fact that it's both the
twenty four year old and the nineteen year old that
are spearheading it, and the dad and the mom are
just kind of being like, yeah, kids will be kids.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Let's just know what it goes.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
So it goes, Yeah, a little crazy, But we do
got a little bit more of this story as of
the twenty first, I'm a married woman. Let's go. We
got through the marriage. It was very tack and stressful
to change basically our entire wedding in two months, but
we did it, and our guests were so understanding. We
had to settle for a few things like our cake
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and catering, but everything else worked out amazingly. Now, we
couldn't imagine any other way. It happened as it was
all supposed to. All in all, things are going well
and thanks to everyone who got invested. It's been a
tough journey, but I'm just glad to have them out
of my life. And that is where this story ends.
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I mean, I think this is a prime example of
what happens when you have a deep familial relationship with
someone that needs to end. It's going to be.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Hard, absolutely, I mean, like tearn off a.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Leech, Yeah, exactly, and it's and it's uh, but it's necessary.
And sometimes sometimes you only see who someone is when
they're actually being like emotionally tested, right, Like maybe like Ope,
Ope's fiance never saw a jealous side of it family,
so never was exposed to the crazy that they had.
But it is. But I'm like surprised that it took
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fifteen years to get like this.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I I know, fifteen years because it seems like they
were fine with OPI when they were just dating. It
was the marriage that really triggered them.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Well yeah, I mean I think the twenty four year
old's like, oh my god, I'm never going to give
a chance to actually be with him.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah. Ms Woozy says I hope the twenty four year
old can't escape the wedding photos online, so she's constantly
reminded what a butt she was.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
But that's what a seventy five k all looks like. Whoa,
it took me a second.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I like the sixty five k one more.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Well, that's like a plug in hybrid. Oh it's a
weird one.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Not a big It's not not as big a fan
of that. Alvough. We have heard a lot of stories
of like the siblings basically stepping up and becoming, yeah,
the partner and becoming the partner. And I think we
were like, I think at some point we're like, oh,
like that's a little odd. But a lot of the
comments we actually saw were like grief, basically Kim Robers
grief change things to people, And that's actually more common,
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maybe more accepted than you might think.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
It's like pretty common in like different cultures.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Where it's like the brother steps up or like like
the really good friend up. Jellybu says, it's expected to.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah, like if you've seen a boy and the heron,
that's what happens.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Oh really, yeah, Like.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
The whole plot of the movie is that the young
boy loses his mom and then his aunt becomes his mom,
and they kind of have to deal with that new relationship.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
I never saw that.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
It is a good movie if you go into it
just for the vines, the reds. It is a very
confusing movie. And that is coming from a hardcore me
as Oki fan. I asked my sister to change your
wedding date because I'm graduating that day.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I mean, I can't change my graduation. You have the
power to change your wedding.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
My sister is getting married next year on May seventeenth,
twenty twenty five. This is a problem because I graduate
that day. By the way, this comes from civil signature
Nino seven. And if you want to spit your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay storytime separate it. So
I was informed about the date in March. Long story short,
I was looking at my academic calendar just a few
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days ago and I found out that was my graduation
day at my school. Usually graduates during the first week
of May, so this surprised me. I let my parents
know about the date, and they told me to tell
my sister. When I told her about the date, I
asked her if she could change the date. She told
me that she already changed the date three times and
she wasn't going to change it a fourth time. She
told me that she was sorry and she'll understand if
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I can't come. I was kind of upset because I
thought it was very dismissive when I told her that.
She got mad and told me that I can't expect
her to try and change her date again, and that
it was set and it was final. Now, I'm kind
of worry that none of my family members would be
at my graduation and I won't be able to see
my sister get married. I understand that it's an inconvenience
for her, but she could change her wedding date. I
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have no control over my graduation date. When I talked
to my parents about who's going to be my graduation,
they just told me not to worry about that right
now because it's not time to stress about that. They're
not going to be there. That means no one's gonna
be there.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
I if I was, I do think a marriage is
more important than a graduation.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
I didn't even want to attend my graduation, huh.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
I agree. However, if Op's sister can still change the date.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
That she should.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Then she should, but.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
There might be a lot of things that are.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Like's if things are booked, then I'd be like, yeah,
she's already booked everything. It doesn't make sense, like really sucks.
Doesn't make sense if she has not booked things and
she just doesn't want to change the date because she
just doesn't want to change the date.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
I also feel like it's it's also not what she said,
it's how she said it. Yeah, it was like I'm
obtaining it for you.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
It's like I've ready change it three times. It's annoying.
If she didn't have anything holding her to that date,
I think she should change the date. My parents are
telling me that they are going to try convinced my
sister to change the date, but I doubt she will consensus.
Not the ale commenters tell op that nobody is trying
to cause drama or be mean and that this is
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a crappy coincidence. Comments by Ope, I'm not going to
a wedding if it's during my graduation. If no one
in my family comes to my graduation, I'd like them
to tell me now instead of waiting until later. This
is her first wedding. I'm sixteen. She's twenty five. Oh oh,
it's your high school graduation. Graduation.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I actually think a high school I think it was important.
It's more important than college graduation.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
I think college graduations are huge. Yeah, at least mine was.
If I mean, I would have been like sad if
you guys hadn't come to my graduation. But like, also,
it was like a fifteen minute thing.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
You know, what do you mean? It wasn't fifteen minutes.
It was like three hours.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
No, but like the actual part of me going on
stage was.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Like no, it was in two seconds. Yeah, I was
like thirty seconds.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Like I'm talking about the walking, right. I would have
been more sad if you hadn't gone to the theater
graduation because I actually like got awards and that was
like actually a cooving. But the main graduation. I would
like to be at her wedding. But I'm not missing
my graduation. Yeah, I think the high school graduation is
like pretty big deal.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah I'm still hot.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
But do you remember your graduation because I was there
because you and Keiona graduated.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Oh my god, yeah, you would have been there.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
I was there. I was the guy who show the
confetti gun.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Why would I remember that because.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Everyone was really upset about you.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Oh, I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
One of the teachers with like the curly hair was like,
we're gonna take that away from you now.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
I got the theater award. That's what I remember.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
At shockingly your shockingly shockingly big deal, A big deal. Alert.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Well, there's only like three you did I know exactly
who you asked one of my friend's sisters.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
I did, Well, what like, we went on a couple
of dates.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
I was at your graduation, yeah, man, Samon graduate. I
was always there in spirit, yeah, and also physically.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
My parents are conflicted. They're not sure what to do,
and just told me that they're going to try and
convince her to change the date. My sister wanted a
spring wedding at first, but she changed her mind wanting
and wanted to get married during September, but most of
us would be in school by that time.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Oh do it do it go go?
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Stays no, no, but most of us would be in
school by that time, and she just decided to change
it to May. It keeps getting pushed back. If OP
was at sister's graduation, yes, we all attended except her
college graduation. It was only a few of us who
could go, Me, my mom and dad, and two of
our cousins. It had limited tickets, but for her high
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school one everyone went. The thing is also cater Rance's
All graduations are a big deal, very very true. But
I think that like high school graduation is a little
bit of a kind of it's a little bit different
because you're eighteen. It's usually smaller and you are like you're.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Going on to the world your family.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Often, like college is that you know you're going out
in the world for like you're going to get a
job and stuff. But like high school graduation is you
have just become an adult. You were about to become
independent to a certain extent, live apart from your parents
for maybe the first time. It says it's one hour
and thirty one minutes away from my school. On the
calendar it says at four pm, but I know that
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the graduates have to be there earlier for lineup, and
I'm not sure what time that'll be. My sister wants
to start her wedding at five thirty. Even if my
graduation ends before, I'll miss part of it. I want
my family at my high school graduation too. They're both
important and I liked seeing how everyone was proud of
my cousins and sister when they graduated, and I want
that for me too. In order for my parents or
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anyone who wants to see the wedding, that means they'll
have to miss my graduation because of the time it
takes to get there. I can't go to a reception
with no transportation. That even bigger point. Yeah, I don't
think she really checked in with anyone. She just told
everyone that was the date. She originally had it for September,
but I wasn't working out for everyone, so she just
changed it.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
It feels like she's not considering her sister in her wedding,
which is that sounds like she doesn't want her there.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
My parents are telling me not to talk about it
right now. You have to talk about it right now
before she books anything. And I would like it if
everyone came to my graduation. I went to theirs, But
if I'm being honest, I don't really care if my
uncle's aunts and cousins don't come. I just wanted my
parents to be there for me. If both of my
parents don't want to come to my graduation, they need
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to tell me now, so I can accept that no
one will be there for me instead of prolonging it
and refusing to talk about it. V Ran says she's
sixteen graduating in high school. No, this is a year
from now, So she's saying that she found out about
when her graduation date is a year before.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
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Speaker 2 (43:43):
Did I say she was too blame new It just
sucks that I went to everyone everyone's graduation and I'm
going to be the only person without having anyone there.
I got my hopes up for nothing, and that's what's
upsetting me. I always looked forward to seeing my cousins
and my sister graduating, and I liked how I've everyone
in the family was always there. If my parents can't
convince her to change the date, I'll accept it and
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not expect anyone to come until told. If someone is, I.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Wonder, do you have one parent go to the wedding?
One parent go too?
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Would they even do that?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Though? You know, well, I guess what would you do
in this situation? Right? So graduation you can't you can't
move the wedding.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Am I a parent in this situation?
Speaker 1 (44:22):
You can't move the wedding and you can't move the graduation.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
I probably would split up if that, yeah, because I
don't think it's fair to have the you know, and
I would, and hopefully that would be an incentive to
the other daughter, Yeah, to change the date. I would say, hey,
if this is your wedding, you can do that. One
of us needs to be there for your sister.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah, but does suck.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
It sucks.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
It sucks so much.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
And I would hope that them saying that would convince
the sister to be like, you're right, I want both
of my parents and my sister to be there.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
So I feel like the parents keep pushing it off
and saying, oh, let's not talk about it, like, let's
not talk talk about it now.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Oh yeah, it needs to I think they just they
I think that's hoping it resolves itself. For like op
just stops being, stops caring.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Somebody says to go no contact with her family, thanks,
But I couldn't do that to my parents. I love
them too much to stop talking to them. I also
won't say I'll stop talking to my sister either, But
I will view her differently, and I'm not sure if
we could ever be as close anymore. It hurt my
feelings a lot when she basically told me that she
was okay with me not being at her wedding and
didn't sound as concerned as me. She made it sound
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like it wasn't a big deal. It made me realize
that I maybe valued her more than she valued me.
I'm gonna be hurt regardless not having everyone there, but
I don't really know what I can do. And there
is an update, folks ten months later.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Oh boys jumps straight into it. I So, I guess
we're gonna know whether people are going to Ope's graduation
or the wedding.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
I forgot about this account until I checked my other
Gmail accounts on my phone. It's May twentieth now, and
I graduated.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Who with no one there.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Everyone in my family went to my sister's wedding. I
didn't go.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
That is crushing.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
My parents left me my mom's car so i'd have
transportation while they were away and could still make it
to my graduation. I graduated top five in my class,
and I felt alone. Oh when my name was called,
a few people in the crowd clap, But it wasn't
like everyone else who had their whole famili's cheering, yelling
and making noise. It was embarrassingly quiet. You could feel
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that I didn't have anyone there. However, I didn't even
know my school live streams graduations on Facebook until the
day afterwards. The camera angle was so far away you
couldn't really see me though. You could only hear my
voice and see me when I was at the podium
reading the pledge and when they said my name, that
was it. So op was even like reading at their graduation. Afterwards,
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I went to McDonald's and then went home. Oh, I
would have been at your graduation. That's so sad, that's hurt.
If you ever had to graduate before me and I
was supposed to have a wedding, I would always move
it for you. I would move heaven and earth to
have you be at my wedding too, Because you're going
to be at my bridal party.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Heck, yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
I was talking to as well about this. Actually, we've
confirmed who my bridesmaids are.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
Yeah, and you're one of them. Cool.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Don't have to wear a dress, Oh, I mean you
can if you want to. Cool okay, because my graduation
ended around five PM and my parents didn't make it
home until around eleven that night. My parents tried to
plan a celebratory dinner for me Sunday. The places I
really wanted to eat at are closed on Sundays and Mondays.
Now they're pushing it to this Saturday so everyone in
the family could come. I already told them they can't
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really make up for missing my graduation though, at least
that's how I feel. A dinner after the fact doesn't
fix how invisible I felt. To be honest, but you
guys will never be invisible to us because we're always
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a little bit left to the sat.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
It is sad. I mean, it's just like the family's
just so obviously choosing yeah the sister, and the sister
is not care, doesn't care if he's.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
There, Like, Wow, not of your sister who it seems
like they were close before. Do not have your sister
be at your wedding to not have anyone go to
her graduation? Wow? But let's finish this off. They're upset
that I said at dinner and wasn't really going to
make up for missing my graduation. They said they thought
long and hard about it and figured I'd still have
the chance to graduate college later on and they could
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see me then. Meanwhile, they wouldn't have to miss my
sister's weddings since she'd only get married once. My sister
and the rest of the family have been texting me
congratulations now, but it all just feels late, if that
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
I'm happy I graduated, but I do feel a little overlooked.
Comments coming one says this situation just sucks. I want
to give Op the biggest hug. Another reply says same.
The parents should have persuaded the older sister to change
the date or made dang sure one of them could
be there for.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Yeah, exactly, which is what we suggested.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
What a crappy family all in all, heartbreaking. Comment two
says the situation sucks, but I'm a little baffled about
why at least one member of the family didn't go
to cheer on Op and then they high tail it
over to the wedding and attend the reception. If I'd
been the oldest sister, I would have announced Op's arrival
at the reception and let everyone cheer she walked in.
That would have been no one to go to the graduation. Yeah,
(49:23):
and why did Op just go home instead of going
to the second after the wedding? Well, because Opie was sad. Yeah,
O if he was sad, no one came to their
graduation and then expected.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
State or something like it was an hour and a half,
an hour a half away.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Yeah. Another reply says, yeah, even if it meant op
he missed some part of the wedding, I would have
wanted my sister there and would have arranged for her
to be there. I understand not moving the date because yeah,
wedding venues, you got to get them on time. But
I don't understand not doing everything possible to have your
sister there tbh. I blame the parents. Parents need to
know the date of the graduation, let everyone know and
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make sure people attended the graduation, and that is the end.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Wow. Wow, I feel so bad for Op. But maybe
you kind of like know a little bit more where
you stand with these relationships and know maybe to invest
in different ones. Agreed, But it's definitely hard.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Really sucks, sucks.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
It sucks to see, but but else sucks less. I mean,
I guess this sucks too, exactly the end of that story.
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wife's family is obsessed with him. It's becoming a problem.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
He's just too cool.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I twenty five female, am getting married to my fiance
twenty nine Mail and met. When we first got together,
he told me that he was married from twenty to
twenty two years old to his high school sweethearts. We
met when he was twenty five, but she passed away
from sepsis due to a botched surgery. That is so sad.
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Pay didn't cope well and stayed in contact with her family,
namely her father and two sisters nineteen and twenty four.
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was a side spot for me for a while at
the beginning because there was so much history they had
that we would not have, and it was tough knowing
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that she was all around him red flag. I never
told him and decided to work through it on my own,
especially with the fact that he would often spend time
with her family during our relationship. Her birthday, their anniversary,
and the anniversary of her death. He'd spend the day
with her family three days. It was uncomfortable at first
knowing the man I loved was reminiscing about love he
(01:30):
had with someone else, but I kept trying to see
it from his perspective, so if he is locked in
on the pundit square, I can see her. But the
last couple of years, I've been completely secure in a
relationship and it doesn't bother me much anymore. He proposed
this time last year, and I was over the moon.
I love this man with all my heart, but I
recently learned that he never told them the family of
(01:50):
his girlfriend that we got engaged, his ex girlfriend, his
dead girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
That's not good.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I've been trying local coffee shops for the past few months,
rather than my usual run and try to one. His
late wife's sister worked there, and other than being awkward,
she did a double take of my engagement ring and
looked really unhappy. I didn't mention it and left.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
See that's the problem they were going to find out.
He should have been the one to tell them.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
My fiance told me that she kept messaging him on
social media about it, and I wasn't happy that he
kept a secret. He apologized, and it was very depleted
by it all. He said that he didn't want to
hide me, but didn't want to hurt them either, and
that both of us were a huge part of his life.
And I understand that and let him off the hook slightly.
Just told him to be upfront with them from now on.
(02:35):
That was that, at least I thought so. A week
ago on Sunday, I got a message, I'm listening. Stop
sending things in chat about blood types. You're distracting her.
I got a message from the twenty four year old
asking if I was happy with myself, that I would
never replace his late wife and that if she was
still alive, he'd choose her over me every time. Yikes.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Come on.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
She even said that he only kept me around for
my money and something to stick his dong in. I
ignored it, but I can't say that it didn't affect
me when you're in my position. All these points are
ones you have to work through, and it's not easy
to get over those insecurities. It feels like a knock
in the teeth when they're used against you. I mentioned
(03:21):
it to him, and he comforted me and reassured me.
He said he'd set boundaries with her and that I'd
never hear from her again. Fine by me.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
A big part is on her fiance. Yeah, he had
communicated earlier. Maybe we could have at least mitigated.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
That was until I found out my car with the
word or salutes O whre and grave robber.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
These people need therapy so bad in red paint. I'm sorry.
Did they expect him to remain celebrate for the rest
of his life because because his partner.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Passed, maybe they expected him to run through the family.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
You know, maybe that's what the sister thought.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
At least, Oh, the sister that's writing that wanted O
piece fiance for herself. Ho. I had saved for this
car for a year and it was expensive, very expensive.
The tires were slash, the windows cracked. I asked the
store a few doors down for their CCTV camera footage
of that night, but it was blurry and didn't catch much.
(04:31):
I did manage to catch half a license plate, though,
and the color and make of a car. It was
late wife's youngest sister's car.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, take him a court.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I told him I was filing a police report, and
he asked me to hold off until he talked to
them first. I told him no, but I would if
they paid for the damages and apologized to my face.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I think that's fair. I think that's fair, like absolutely not.
The only way that I'm not filing a police report
if they'd pay for the car.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
He set up the meeting for last night, and it
did not go well, to say the least. Everyone was shouting.
The sisters told me they guess both of them had
nothing to be sorry for, and that I should leave
their family alone, including my fiance and their family. He
told them that it wasn't fair to him to be
lonely forever and that he'd hoped they'd be supportive of
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him finding love again. They told him he was betraying
late wife and that he never loved her. If he'd
marry someone else, they didn't have a problem with him
having a new girlfriend because he'd realize she was the
only one for him and get tired of me.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
She's traumatized by losing the late wife. They need there
be so bad.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
And now that that hadn't happened, they were putting their
foot down. So they were hoping he would see the
light and be like, oh, I'll just you know, be
with late wife's ghosts forever. The youngest told him to
tell me that they were right and that he'd never
love anyone like late wife. My fiance broke down at
the table. I picked him up and made us leave.
I told them I'd be finally report and suing for
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damages and the next time they saw us would be
in court. When we got back and calm down, I
gave him an ultimatum. Is this the time to give
the ultimatum? It sounds like he was prey the whole things.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I need to know what the ultimatum is.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Well, the ultimatum either he cuts contact or we call
off the wedding and go our separate ways. I wasn't
going to live my life with this pestor mens and
someday subject my children to their bullying. He said they
would never bully a child, but I shot him down
and said he didn't expect any of this either. He
called their father, who was fairly chill about it all,
but still defending his daughters. They say I shouldn't control
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him and that I'm horrible for cutting them off. I
don't know what to do. I can't live like this,
and I don't think I should have to just because
we're getting married and there's an updates. Yeah, what do
we think about that ultimatum?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
We know we don't like ultimatums on this show. Yeah,
I think what you are asking for, reasonable in general,
is reasonable. He has to cut them off because they
are being crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I agree that he has to cut him off. I
just wonder about the time like he it sounded like
he was pretty broken from this whole thing. Give him
a chance to recover, and then give him the ultimatum,
like the next day or something. Hey, everyone, there's a
mini update to clear some things up before I have
a discussion with my fiance either later today or tomorrow
about my ultimatum. I didn't sleep at all yesterday or
the night before for obvious reasons. There's a ding on
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my phone at least once an hour from them saying
one thing or another. Mainly the nineteen year old, and
I don't know what they've told people, but I've got
messages from one of their uncles and grandparents calling me
horrible stuff too, So obviously they've been spreading what's happened
this week and twisting it. I haven't blocked them because
I want to gain as much evidence as I can
for the inevitable case. Regardless of any outcome with my fiance,
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I will be suing and filing a criminal case for
pestorments and vandalism and looking for a restraining order. I
just haven't had the mental fortitude to do so yet.
I'm hoping my fiance will help me. I haven't spoken
to my fiance since the argument at the table, other
than to tell him this or I do. It was
my choice to give him a couple of days space
(08:03):
to come to terms with everything, and I will contact
him when I'm ready. All this from the first message
till now has been a week. It's a huge weight
to contemplate leaving people you've known for fifteen years and
who you grew up with. I think it's really cool
that Ope recognizes that, yes, I feel like that's an
important correction.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
She understands that there is a weight here.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, he did set hard boundaries with the sister from
the coffee shop. As I've seen the messages. He said, paraphrasing,
you have no talk. You have no right talking to
Opie at all. If this is how you're going to
behave she doesn't deserve this and you've gone too far.
Why are you acting like this? And she responded with
more name calling him back and forth. He ended by
saying not to message me again and to make sure
everyone else does the same. I was happy with that.
(08:43):
At this point, only one person in the family had
an issue to my knowledge, so it was silly to
have him cut all them off. It may not be
enough for some, but it was enough for me to
feel safe and comfortable. For those saying he needs therapy
and counseling, he's already getting it good. That's good. That's good.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I'm honestly, I think they need therapy in counseling.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
He's been getting it since before we even started dating.
After the incident at work. I don't know about any
of their family though, the first time I had a
conversation with any of them was that night. Some people
are wondering what late wife passed away of and it
was a batched weight loss surgery where she passed away
of sepsis.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
That's devastating. That's devastating. Oh, like maybe like gastron, you know, oh, devastating.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
People were wondering if he was somehow the reason behind
the surgery, hence the family's insane reaction, but he was
not in the slightest He likes bagger women and wouldn't
pressure something like that onto her. They are Yeah. I
also want to clear up that I'm not calling the
police about the car thing. It was entirely my idea
not to file charges in exchange for a face to
phase apology in damage payment. He only wanted me to
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wait so that he could talk to her to see
if she regretted it, and then had the father pay
the damages. At the time, we thought it was just
an herold that smashed up my car, not both daughters.
Neither of us wanted to ruin her life. When I
found out it was both of them, it was full
steam ahead. Thank you for all your messages and hopefully
I'll have a positive update for you tomorrow. There is
an edit. There is more updates, But how do we
(10:16):
feel about like Op's update here. It seems like I
do like the space that she's giving for fiance and
recognize it.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I think he's also doing like making a lot of
moves to set boundaries. I still think that she should
absolutely go ahead with the restraining order and with the
police report, because they have refused to at all admit faults.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, I just I don't see a way that you
can preserve a relationship with his family. I just don't
see it. I chose for him to take this space apart.
It's not him being indecisive. I said to take time
and that i'd reach out so that his decision is
thought out. It's for me. I don't want to be
chosen only to be three kids down the line and
stuck in a resentment spilled mane. It's for me, Please
(11:01):
understand that. And we got an update two that we're
gonna jump straight into. So, well, what a wild morning
I've had. My fiance came over bright and early this morning,
and I've never been so danged higher. You may want
to take a seat because this one's gonna be long.
You said, See everyone is everyone popped and squatted pop squad.
(11:23):
So first of all, I want to set the record
straight here. A lot of people are coming for my
fiance over not cutting them off from the get go,
which I don't think is fair. He's a very mild mannered,
calm and calculating person, and that's who I always knew
he was. Nothing has changed. If he had been Rocky
Balboa and flipped the cafe table shouting obscenities, it would
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not have been the man I fell in love with.
We love a mild mannered man, you know, a little
little superman Clark Kent kind of you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
No, exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
He did exactly what I expected him to do and
exactly what I was comfortable with. You may be attracted
to other things and men and expect other things, and
that's awesome, but not me. I love my men mild mannered,
like I like my hot sauce. Mild.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Can't do spicy.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Nope, I like my men mild and my women spicy.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
All right, put that on the shirts.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Somebody put that on a shirt updates. I text him
saying I thought it was time to discuss this, and
he was back at home not a half hour later.
He'd been staying with a friend for a couple of
nights and we had no contact. We sat on a
bed to talk because my back is sore from all
the packing and I wasn't going to force myself to
sit at the table. Before we even got to talking,
he asked if we could cuddle for a minute. Definitely
(12:37):
took some weight off and were able to talk like
a couple and not awkward strangers. Regardless of some people's beliefs,
we do love each other and took me a very
long time to feel confident in that fact before anyone
calls me a doormat again. No, I was still sure
I would stick to my ultimatum, and the first thing
I asked was if he felt he had enough time
to make his decision, and he said he didn't need time.
(12:58):
He was very shocked and bewilled at how so much
could change in just a week and how everything he
knew was shook up and he couldn't think and went numb.
He did apologize that he didn't take a more defensive
stance at the cafe, and he doesn't want to make
excuses for it. An explanation was that he genuinely didn't
expect such a vitriolic response, which I think is understandable.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
It's like a family that he's had been close to
for what was it, fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
It's a long long time time. It's a long time.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
And also probably like trauma bonded.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah too, I mean, because they all love his late
wife so much. Yeah, he hid the engagement because he
knew they weren't over late wife's death and would be
upset at the news. It wasn't like I would feel
upset by them not knowing, which I wasn't. Really. He's
known these girls since before they were in double digits,
and he would never have thought they were capable of it.
It came so far out of left field that he froze.
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I asked him if there was any possibility that either
of them had a thing for him, and he looked
very confused and disturbed, which is what we thought. I
do think they got a thing for him. Yeah, maybe
they're fighting over who would get him, you know, I said,
how I've had people tell me it's not uncommon for
siblings to do this after a loss, and he thought,
on it turns out you were right nailed it. Do
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you think there's any cheating?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
No, I think that we're just going to find out
that they had a crush on him. I don't think
that he would have cheated on I don't I don't
think that he would have cheated.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Well, he said. The twenty four year old, about eight
months after a late wife's death, made a move and
tried to kiss him. He immediately left and told her
mother about it. Mother and father are divorced now, but
weren't then. Her mother made her see the school counselor
and didn't allow her to be alone with him for
a while. It was years ago, so he'd forgotten it
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even happened. I don't know, he said. He was sure
that wasn't the case now because it had been so long,
But I'm not so convinced now that it matters anymore.
He opened up his Facebook and gave it to me
to read. Four year old had been messaging him, which
he ignored. She ranged from telling him off to crying
and saying how betrayed the family was trying to manipulate
him against me, blah blah blah. He said he was
(15:09):
sure that he needed to put them behind him. I
had been thinking it on and off since he proposed,
but couldn't bring himself to do it. After this week,
the fire was lit and he knew what he had
to do. It was all just abstract until suddenly it
was real. He asked me how I've been coping, and
I told him I felt like I'd done everything right,
but somehow things turned out worse than if I'd been
(15:31):
the jealous type and stop their contact at the beginning.
I tried to be understanding and put in so much
effort to be securing myself in a relationship, only for
everything I worked on to be thrown in my face
like I was a mistress that was cheating with him.
He didn't blink the entire time and just listened.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Ooh.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
He said he should have been more observant and realized
I was struggling with this so that he can help me.
But I've always been the strong one, so he neglected
to do so. And he'll do better as I've I've
seen in a few comments now. His parents had him
in their late forties and are retired. He hates to
involve them in negativity, but I was stunned when he
said he'd been talking to them about this since the
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first Facebook method. They were very understanding, but his father
took a tough love approach. He said, the best quote
I think I've ever heard, get your act together before
the jig is up.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
That's the best quote you've ever heard.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Like they're better quotes.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Oh, He's like, Wow, that really spoke to me. I
don't think i've ever heard anyone say that before. You're right, Dad, or.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Your father in law, Papa wise, Woods of wisdom.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I will get my act together before the jig is up.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
They offered to come and stay for a while and
help us move. I don't think that's necessary, but I
really appreciate the thought. On the subject of moving. I
mean it clear that I would not be living in
this house any longer than I had to, and he
completely agreed. The house's late wife his parents offered to
find us a place in their state, and he wanted
to have more of a support network. And I'm honestly
considering it. After all this, They're only a state away
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for my own family, so it would be a lot
better off. His job is remote and I should be
able to find work there easily enough. I've been in
contact with a friend who's a mechanic, and they've quoted
me between one to two thousand dollars or the damages.
But that's an at costs estimate as a discount. A
few people I've said to get a real statement and
to shop around. The real cost is between four and
five thousand, and that's just for the noticeable damage. My
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friend thinks they've done something to the engine, so thank
God see them. I couldn't drive it anywhere breaking sue them.
He thinks I may be entitled to a replacement car altogether.
If so, I will be sure to sue for it good,
and that's not going to be cheap. After all the
emotional things that were discussed. He mentioned, when would I
be comfortable enough to go to the police? I made
(17:44):
it clear he was okay with that, or I go
on my own. He said the surest I've ever seen him,
that this is what we needed to be done, and
he wasn't going to let them continue. He had done
enough to try to shield them, but he wasn't going
to let it come at my expense. I'm currently in
the bath, frothing in bath bombs love, but we'll be
going to the station as soon as I'm done. He's
(18:04):
downstairs right now printing out the new quotes from the
mechanics and the messages the twenty four year old sent
him over the last couple of days, so we can
go prepare it. People have said that nothing will come
of it, and you may be right, but I have
to try, hoping my local police don't have anything better
to do. It's a small town, and to finish. And also,
by the way, we are far from finished. We're less
than halfway through to finish. I made a point of
(18:26):
asking again if he would cut them off or had
to go. He did not miss a beat and said
that they are no longer going to be part of
his life, even if I decided to leave. He did
ask for one last meeting to say goodbye to her
parents and to put a clothes on that part of
his life, and to explain to the girls that this
is not my fault, but his decision after seeing how
cruel they were capable of being. After that we would
(18:48):
block them on everything and move forward. And I was
completely fine with that. What do we think about the closure?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I think that's good.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I think that's good.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I think so. I think he needs it. Yeah, I
mean he already lost his wife in such like a.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
But I also feel like it almost feels like it
feels like, yes, it could give him closure, but it
almost feels like it's closure for the family, so sure
they don't act in weirder ways.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I agree. I think yeah. I think he's saying like, hey,
don't go over after my wife. This is my decision
and hopefully that works.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
So there we have it. Writing all this out and
being able to talk to people about everything has been
both helpful and a good distraction from the dumpster fire
that was my life, and everything worked out as well
as I could have hoped. Again, there's an update after this,
so we're going to get into more of the story.
We'll see how his meeting goes with them. Is it
gonna go well? I wonder. I'm sure they won't be
very happy about it, but that's not my problem. Thank
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you all, and I'll update after they've met up and
there is let's freaking dive in another update. So it
seems I've been naughty because I got temporary banned on
here for three days in chat someone who's calling me
every derogatory and sexist term imaginable. But I was put
in time out for defending myself. I appealed, but the
appeal took the band time away. Oh well, sorry, this
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update is taking so long for reasons stated above. So
we drove down to the police station with our block
of paperwork and had a couple hours talk. They were
so sweet about everything, as some of you expected. They
did say I should have come earlier, but they didn't
really care because it was only a few days. They
said that it often takes people about this amount of
time to actually file charges if they weren't in immediate
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threat or danger. So unless someone was about to throw
the old one two's, this was par for the course.
I handed them everything and it looks like I've got
plenty of evidence. They'll be contacting my insurance on my
behalf to get the ball rolling so they can come
to a check of the car themselves, and then they
can open a claim with me if I want. They're
not filing a claim, they're just notifying about the criminal damages.
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I filed criminal damages for pastor mento vandalism, and they'll
notify me with more details about my restraining order. This week,
my fiancee told the police that he was planning on
meeting with late wife's family and asked if that would
contradict my case, right, because he's like oh, is if
creating a relationship with them, you know, ur it's the
ability to get a restraining order whatever. Yeah, and they said, no,
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we're not married at the time of filing, so legally
we're two separate entities in this case or something. So
my car is totaled. My mechanic friend, I'm going to
call him Tom because I can't keep saying. My mechanic
friend and his partner at the shop did a full
check on my car and this is the damage they found.
So we're getting a full.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Full list of what's going on with this car.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Shattered windshield, four slash tires, two broken windows, paint obvious
I think, unknown substance in the engine, oil, and battered
body work.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
They did a number.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
They said, with this amount of damage, I should just
go for a new car. So that's what I'll be doing.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, and make sure they freaking pay for it.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Oh my god, that's so rough. If anyone is curious,
it's evolvough. I'd always wanted one and managed to buy
a new one two years ago. Either they get me
a new car or they'd be set back around sixty
thousand dollars. That's an expensive volve. What does the sixty
thousand dollars volver live like right now, Yeah, that's that's
an expensive Volvough the amount classifies the vandalism as a felony,
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so they could be looking at jail time too.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Obviously clearly a felony.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
My fiance met with the family on Saturday and Tom
sat by the window. I currently live in a one
party state, so as long as my fiance consents, the
recording can be used in my case. While it may
not be as drama filled as some of you may want,
it was still pretty stressful to see. They met at
the same cafe that we did before, and Tom sat
a few tables away. Fiance arrived after their father and
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before them for the best because they managed to have
a calm conversation for once. I thought it was gonna
blow up.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, I thought it was gonna be like how dare
you fight?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Fiance told him how he was feeling, and father in
law was very understanding but still trying to minimize. He
was saying things like, you know, they missed late wife,
and they'll come around. You just need time to come
to terms with you moving on. Kept trying to initiate
paying for the damages, but fiance wouldn't talk about it
until the sisters arrived. It was like butter wouldn't melt
with a twenty four year old, but nineteen came in
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like the Tasman devil. My fiance didn't acknowledge anyone until
it all settled down. Where then he said this would
be his last meeting with all of them and they'd
be going their separate rays. He turned to the girls
and said that he would miss who he thought they were.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
That that's kind of hit deep.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
That's got it for someone.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
To say, I miss who I thought you were.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Oh oh, that is a line.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
See that's that's a good line.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
That's a good line. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, when the act is over, the jig is up.
That's a bad lot. That's just a very SciTE.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah. I've heard that the mill, but I haven't heard.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
I miss who I thought you were.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
That is that cuts deep. But the way they could
treat people horrified him, especially me. He said that this
was all him and they needed to accept that I
was not to blame. He even said that it was
me who offered the apology in exchange for not filing charges.
The nineteen year old then interrupted, asking what charges, and
that no one was going to charge them for barely
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touching a car. She was a deer in headlights. When
he asked what they'd done to the engine oil, and
the two looked at each other. Seems they didn't expect
me to find out. H The groveling twenty four year
old tried to touch his hand and told him he
had to stop me pressing charges because this would ruin
her and interfere with the nineteen year old's college. Oh
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you should have thought about that, he said. It was
too late, and the cops should be issuing a warrant soon.
It can take a few days. I thought it was
an instant thing, but apparently not. This is when their
dad got involved and said for everyone to calm down
and fix this like adults. Now. He wants his girls
to be adults. I see. He asked if fiance would
convince me to drop the charges in exchange for that apology,
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and he'd pay the damages. When my fiance said it
was sixty thousand dollars. The eyes he gave to those
women would shave the hair off a cat. The video
wasn't the best, but I swear I could see the
color drain from their faces. It may sound awful, but
I enjoyed it. Call me what you will. They kept
going on about apologizing and that they'd pay, but he
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just said it was too late and he was done.
He tried to be civil, but they were the ones
that wouldn't let him go. The twenty four year old
actually asked him to set up a meeting with me
so they could get to know me and put it
all behind us. What crocodile tears? You know?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Too late?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Too late late? Memj grow says, play a dog games?
Oh win adult prizes?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yup? Sorry, you gotta pay that sixty thousand now.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
He didn't reply, and after the silence, they piped up again, like,
so she won't even meet us, so she's behind all
this because she doesn't want us around. We'll see about that.
Not using the exact quotes because I don't know if
I'm allowed, so not risking it thinks that's it went
on and on. Frankly, it was funny more than harmful,
but they didn't incriminate themselves. More and more for my
pestorment case. And the nail on the coffin was the
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nineteen year old said, if we can do that to
a car, Imagine what else we could do?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Threat? Threat, threat, threat?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
How are you talking like a mob boss?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Nineteen year old girl going? If we could destroy your car,
imagine what we could do to a person.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Imagine if your shoes were filled.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
With Magine that your body was that car.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Imagine that your body was at the bottom of it.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Would that your body was that vovo That we could
do a whole lot of damage.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
The V ninety cross country and MSRP is around sixty thousand.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Imagine that those slash dies were your arms and the
engine oil was your blood. I could do a whole
lot of damage.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Oh lot, That, my friends, is both a confession and
a threat of bodily harm. My fiance said one loud
stop before wishing father in law well and telling the
girls to not come near me. Then got up left,
and that's where the recording ends, because you wouldn't be
able to use anything afterwards. Anyway. As for moving, we're
pretty much all packed up and have a truck coming
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on Friday. We'll be staying with his parents until we
find a place. We're looking at buying this time, but
might get an RV in the meantime, so we're not
all stepping on each other. I doubt his parents would
mind it all. But this is the last update for
a while. I think I have a wedding to finish,
a venue, to change, new invites, etc. In less than
two months to do it all. Send help, but thank
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you all for being ears and helping me to get
through this. It only distracts me from ruminating and digging
a huge mental hole. I guess what, Sophia, what you
thought it was over?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I thought it was over.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
You thought it was done.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I thought it was done.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
But there is a fourth update. But there's a fourth update,
come and right up your little buttercups, So strap in.
But what do we think about this meeting? So we
decided that it was good to have a final send off.
What do you think about how oh he responded the
family and how the family responded to him.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
You beat Ope's field too?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Oh pis fiance?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah? I think that was all brilliant. I think not
only was it a final send off, but it was
a way to now get you know, even more evidence evidence. Yeah,
and clearly these people are more than a little crazy. Yeah,
yike seg seggs, they're threatening bodily harm.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
So update four, Sam here og host. We're gonna get
back to these stories, but here's three minutes fads from
our sponsors. First. So it's been a while. Guys, calling
the past few months a roller coaster wouldn't quite do
a justice. A lot has happened, and I hope I
don't leave anything out here it goes. So, first, we
moved away. We're only a couple of towns over from
my husband's parents legally, but we kind of just live
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in their backyard and my own are a state over Hallujah.
It's been really great living in our own new RV,
and we've been able to take small trips now and
then too, which has been a great breather. Took a
chunk out of our house savings, but we're not too
worried about it. Looking for a house has been fun too.
I can't speak to what have happened, but by a
stroke of luck, the warrants came through the day before
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our moving day, and the sisters spent the whole move
in police custody. I'm sure it was not as formal
as cuffs and interview rooms, but I'd like to imagine
it that way. So we didn't have to deal with
any drama that for sure would have happened otherwise. As
I said before, we didn't block them because we wanted
to keep the line open for more evidence. M boy,
was that a good idea? The nineteen year old has
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only now just stopped sending me my messages. Start off
with pleading and hoping for a meetup, then went to
calling me names and such for trying to ruin her life.
But the past few weeks have been pure rage, which
has been draining, if entertaining. She says she'll find me
and I'd better watch my back. Blah blah blah. My
printer has been working overtime. As you can imagine, so
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many receipts to give to my lawyers.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
She just keeps digging her own freaking grace.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I know, I know, I mean, hey, Opie's case is
a rock solid, rock solid, so many receiepts to give
my lawyer. The two twenty four year old is still
working on. My husband reached ahead a few days ago
before the wedding. We should have changed the dates, but
it just wasn't feasible. We had family from all over
that had taken time off work and we really wanted
everyone to be there after what happened. She tried to
call my husband over a dozen times and actually left
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two voicemails. She was crying and hyperventilating, saying how she
didn't want to lose him. For those of you who
said she still had a thing for him in Dingdong.
My husband listened to the voicemails with me, and she
just rambled. It was actually quite sad. She said that
she always thought they would be together because they've been
through so much together and it felt right. She blamed
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him for leading her on and making her fall for him,
only to choose someone else that he hardly knew. She
even said she felt replaced, which made me uncomfortable. All
this all the while degrading him for betraying his late
wife by moving on at all. I genuinely do not
understand her logic. As for my car, we found out
what the unknown substance was. It was anti freeze. The
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entire engine was written off and with everything else. My
insurance launched a case against them for the cost of
a new car. I was expecting sixty thousand dollars or so,
but Tom, my mechanic friend, said to ask for more
based on the current market value and such and they
came back with a new offer, seventy five thousand dollars. Yes, keon,
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what's a seventy five thousand dollars olive?
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I look like, Oh no, I'm too hot hot, let
me look it up.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
It took over a month for the money to hit
my account, but I got it. Seventy five big ones.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Dang man, you won.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
As for the case, I'm no longer going after them
for repayment my insurances, so that's one less thing I
have to worry about. As far as I know, their
father is paying for the legal fees, but I doubt
he'll pay back the insurance company for them. There is
still a case against them for pesterment and threatening behavior,
and I'm suing for the money it took to move
away and the emotional stress. My lawyer says they'll be liable,
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and it's looking like they want to settle. I don't
feel great about going for emotional distress, but after everything
they've done, it was surely yeah, emotionally.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Distressing threatened you multiple times.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
The courts are moving slowly, so I don't have anything
new on the criminal case yet other than that they
are going to plead guilty. Shouldn't be long now, and
it's looking like they're getting probation and mandatory anger management,
not a stint in jail, but oh well, at least
they'll both have a record. My husband has been down
for a while since we left, but he hasn't wavered
in supporting me.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Helb you husband, I think he's allowed to feel a
little down.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
He's getting back to his old self now that he's
settling at work, and he's enjoying being closer to his parents.
It's been great for our relationship too, because we all
get on so well. And if you want to get
on well with us, you should listen to full episodes
of stories just like this. Go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts,
or your favorite podcast app and search. Okay, storytime, there's
another relevant updates. But how are we feeling about where
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things are ending up?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I think that everyone, I mean op and her partner
have taken all the right steps here. I think Opie's
partner felt a little bit of he was unsure about it,
like he wasn't. He didn't go full steam ahead into
cutting them off because they were really important part of
his life.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, and I understand that. I understand that, but I
feel like he's kind of made all the right moves
since then.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, like once he realized, oh they are a huge problem,
let's pump the brakes, let's get them out of my life,
he did all of that, you know, So I think
all of the right steps.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
How it was made, all the right steps. What a
crazy family to be, like to.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Crazy to find out that they were this crazy all
after fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I could understand maybe, you know, the twenty four year
old being crazy, but the fact that it's both the
twenty four year old and the nineteen year old that
are spearheading it, and the dad and the mom are
just kind of being like, yeah, kids will be kids.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Let's just know what it goes.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
So it goes, Yeah, a little crazy, But we do
got a little bit more of this story as of
the twenty first, I'm a married woman. Let's go. We
got through the marriage. It was very tack and stressful
to change basically our entire wedding in two months, but
we did it, and our guests were so understanding. We
had to settle for a few things like our cake
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and catering, but everything else worked out amazingly. Now, we
couldn't imagine any other way. It happened as it was
all supposed to. All in all, things are going well
and thanks to everyone who got invested. It's been a
tough journey, but I'm just glad to have them out
of my life. And that is where this story ends.
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I mean, I think this is a prime example of
what happens when you have a deep familial relationship with
someone that needs to end. It's going to be.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Hard, absolutely, I mean, like tearn off a.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Leech, Yeah, exactly, and it's and it's uh, but it's necessary.
And sometimes sometimes you only see who someone is when
they're actually being like emotionally tested, right, Like maybe like Ope,
Ope's fiance never saw a jealous side of it family,
so never was exposed to the crazy that they had.
But it is. But I'm like surprised that it took
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fifteen years to get like this.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I I know, fifteen years because it seems like they
were fine with OPI when they were just dating. It
was the marriage that really triggered them.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Well yeah, I mean I think the twenty four year
old's like, oh my god, I'm never going to give
a chance to actually be with him.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah. Ms Woozy says I hope the twenty four year
old can't escape the wedding photos online, so she's constantly
reminded what a butt she was.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
But that's what a seventy five k all looks like. Whoa,
it took me a second.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I like the sixty five k one more.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Well, that's like a plug in hybrid. Oh it's a
weird one.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Not a big It's not not as big a fan
of that. Alvough. We have heard a lot of stories
of like the siblings basically stepping up and becoming, yeah,
the partner and becoming the partner. And I think we
were like, I think at some point we're like, oh,
like that's a little odd. But a lot of the
comments we actually saw were like grief, basically Kim Robers
grief change things to people, And that's actually more common,
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maybe more accepted than you might think.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
It's like pretty common in like different cultures.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Where it's like the brother steps up or like like
the really good friend up. Jellybu says, it's expected to.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah, like if you've seen a boy and the heron,
that's what happens.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Oh really, yeah, Like.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
The whole plot of the movie is that the young
boy loses his mom and then his aunt becomes his mom,
and they kind of have to deal with that new relationship.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
I never saw that.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
It is a good movie if you go into it
just for the vines, the reds. It is a very
confusing movie. And that is coming from a hardcore me
as Oki fan. I asked my sister to change your
wedding date because I'm graduating that day.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I mean, I can't change my graduation. You have the
power to change your wedding.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
My sister is getting married next year on May seventeenth,
twenty twenty five. This is a problem because I graduate
that day. By the way, this comes from civil signature
Nino seven. And if you want to spit your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay storytime separate it. So
I was informed about the date in March. Long story short,
I was looking at my academic calendar just a few
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days ago and I found out that was my graduation
day at my school. Usually graduates during the first week
of May, so this surprised me. I let my parents
know about the date, and they told me to tell
my sister. When I told her about the date, I
asked her if she could change the date. She told
me that she already changed the date three times and
she wasn't going to change it a fourth time. She
told me that she was sorry and she'll understand if
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I can't come. I was kind of upset because I
thought it was very dismissive when I told her that.
She got mad and told me that I can't expect
her to try and change her date again, and that
it was set and it was final. Now, I'm kind
of worry that none of my family members would be
at my graduation and I won't be able to see
my sister get married. I understand that it's an inconvenience
for her, but she could change her wedding date. I
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have no control over my graduation date. When I talked
to my parents about who's going to be my graduation,
they just told me not to worry about that right
now because it's not time to stress about that. They're
not going to be there. That means no one's gonna
be there.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
I if I was, I do think a marriage is
more important than a graduation.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
I didn't even want to attend my graduation, huh.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
I agree. However, if Op's sister can still change the date.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
That she should.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Then she should, but.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
There might be a lot of things that are.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Like's if things are booked, then I'd be like, yeah,
she's already booked everything. It doesn't make sense, like really sucks.
Doesn't make sense if she has not booked things and
she just doesn't want to change the date because she
just doesn't want to change the date.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
I also feel like it's it's also not what she said,
it's how she said it. Yeah, it was like I'm
obtaining it for you.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
It's like I've ready change it three times. It's annoying.
If she didn't have anything holding her to that date,
I think she should change the date. My parents are
telling me that they are going to try convinced my
sister to change the date, but I doubt she will consensus.
Not the ale commenters tell op that nobody is trying
to cause drama or be mean and that this is
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a crappy coincidence. Comments by Ope, I'm not going to
a wedding if it's during my graduation. If no one
in my family comes to my graduation, I'd like them
to tell me now instead of waiting until later. This
is her first wedding. I'm sixteen. She's twenty five. Oh oh,
it's your high school graduation. Graduation.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I actually think a high school I think it was important.
It's more important than college graduation.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
I think college graduations are huge. Yeah, at least mine was.
If I mean, I would have been like sad if
you guys hadn't come to my graduation. But like, also,
it was like a fifteen minute thing.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
You know, what do you mean? It wasn't fifteen minutes.
It was like three hours.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
No, but like the actual part of me going on
stage was.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Like no, it was in two seconds. Yeah, I was
like thirty seconds.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Like I'm talking about the walking, right. I would have
been more sad if you hadn't gone to the theater
graduation because I actually like got awards and that was
like actually a cooving. But the main graduation. I would
like to be at her wedding. But I'm not missing
my graduation. Yeah, I think the high school graduation is
like pretty big deal.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah I'm still hot.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
But do you remember your graduation because I was there
because you and Keiona graduated.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Oh my god, yeah, you would have been there.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
I was there. I was the guy who show the
confetti gun.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Why would I remember that because.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Everyone was really upset about you.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Oh, I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
One of the teachers with like the curly hair was like,
we're gonna take that away from you now.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
I got the theater award. That's what I remember.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
At shockingly your shockingly shockingly big deal, A big deal. Alert.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Well, there's only like three you did I know exactly
who you asked one of my friend's sisters.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
I did, Well, what like, we went on a couple
of dates.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
I was at your graduation, yeah, man, Samon graduate. I
was always there in spirit, yeah, and also physically.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
My parents are conflicted. They're not sure what to do,
and just told me that they're going to try and
convince her to change the date. My sister wanted a
spring wedding at first, but she changed her mind wanting
and wanted to get married during September, but most of
us would be in school by that time.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Oh do it do it go go?
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Stays no, no, but most of us would be in
school by that time, and she just decided to change
it to May. It keeps getting pushed back. If OP
was at sister's graduation, yes, we all attended except her
college graduation. It was only a few of us who
could go, Me, my mom and dad, and two of
our cousins. It had limited tickets, but for her high
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school one everyone went. The thing is also cater Rance's
All graduations are a big deal, very very true. But
I think that like high school graduation is a little
bit of a kind of it's a little bit different
because you're eighteen. It's usually smaller and you are like you're.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Going on to the world your family.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Often, like college is that you know you're going out
in the world for like you're going to get a
job and stuff. But like high school graduation is you
have just become an adult. You were about to become
independent to a certain extent, live apart from your parents
for maybe the first time. It says it's one hour
and thirty one minutes away from my school. On the
calendar it says at four pm, but I know that
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the graduates have to be there earlier for lineup, and
I'm not sure what time that'll be. My sister wants
to start her wedding at five thirty. Even if my
graduation ends before, I'll miss part of it. I want
my family at my high school graduation too. They're both
important and I liked seeing how everyone was proud of
my cousins and sister when they graduated, and I want
that for me too. In order for my parents or
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anyone who wants to see the wedding, that means they'll
have to miss my graduation because of the time it
takes to get there. I can't go to a reception
with no transportation. That even bigger point. Yeah, I don't
think she really checked in with anyone. She just told
everyone that was the date. She originally had it for September,
but I wasn't working out for everyone, so she just
changed it.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
It feels like she's not considering her sister in her wedding,
which is that sounds like she doesn't want her there.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
My parents are telling me not to talk about it
right now. You have to talk about it right now
before she books anything. And I would like it if
everyone came to my graduation. I went to theirs, But
if I'm being honest, I don't really care if my
uncle's aunts and cousins don't come. I just wanted my
parents to be there for me. If both of my
parents don't want to come to my graduation, they need
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to tell me now, so I can accept that no
one will be there for me instead of prolonging it
and refusing to talk about it. V Ran says she's
sixteen graduating in high school. No, this is a year
from now, So she's saying that she found out about
when her graduation date is a year before.
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Speaker 2 (43:43):
Did I say she was too blame new It just
sucks that I went to everyone everyone's graduation and I'm
going to be the only person without having anyone there.
I got my hopes up for nothing, and that's what's
upsetting me. I always looked forward to seeing my cousins
and my sister graduating, and I liked how I've everyone
in the family was always there. If my parents can't
convince her to change the date, I'll accept it and
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not expect anyone to come until told. If someone is, I.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Wonder, do you have one parent go to the wedding?
One parent go too?
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Would they even do that?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Though? You know, well, I guess what would you do
in this situation? Right? So graduation you can't you can't
move the wedding.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Am I a parent in this situation?
Speaker 1 (44:22):
You can't move the wedding and you can't move the graduation.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
I probably would split up if that, yeah, because I
don't think it's fair to have the you know, and
I would, and hopefully that would be an incentive to
the other daughter, Yeah, to change the date. I would say, hey,
if this is your wedding, you can do that. One
of us needs to be there for your sister.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah, but does suck.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
It sucks.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
It sucks so much.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
And I would hope that them saying that would convince
the sister to be like, you're right, I want both
of my parents and my sister to be there.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
So I feel like the parents keep pushing it off
and saying, oh, let's not talk about it, like, let's
not talk talk about it now.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Oh yeah, it needs to I think they just they
I think that's hoping it resolves itself. For like op
just stops being, stops caring.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Somebody says to go no contact with her family, thanks,
But I couldn't do that to my parents. I love
them too much to stop talking to them. I also
won't say I'll stop talking to my sister either, But
I will view her differently, and I'm not sure if
we could ever be as close anymore. It hurt my
feelings a lot when she basically told me that she
was okay with me not being at her wedding and
didn't sound as concerned as me. She made it sound
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like it wasn't a big deal. It made me realize
that I maybe valued her more than she valued me.
I'm gonna be hurt regardless not having everyone there, but
I don't really know what I can do. And there
is an update, folks ten months later.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Oh boys jumps straight into it. I So, I guess
we're gonna know whether people are going to Ope's graduation
or the wedding.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
I forgot about this account until I checked my other
Gmail accounts on my phone. It's May twentieth now, and
I graduated.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Who with no one there.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Everyone in my family went to my sister's wedding. I
didn't go.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
That is crushing.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
My parents left me my mom's car so i'd have
transportation while they were away and could still make it
to my graduation. I graduated top five in my class,
and I felt alone. Oh when my name was called,
a few people in the crowd clap, But it wasn't
like everyone else who had their whole famili's cheering, yelling
and making noise. It was embarrassingly quiet. You could feel
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that I didn't have anyone there. However, I didn't even
know my school live streams graduations on Facebook until the
day afterwards. The camera angle was so far away you
couldn't really see me though. You could only hear my
voice and see me when I was at the podium
reading the pledge and when they said my name, that
was it. So op was even like reading at their graduation. Afterwards,
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I went to McDonald's and then went home. Oh, I
would have been at your graduation. That's so sad, that's hurt.
If you ever had to graduate before me and I
was supposed to have a wedding, I would always move
it for you. I would move heaven and earth to
have you be at my wedding too, Because you're going
to be at my bridal party.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Heck, yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
I was talking to as well about this. Actually, we've
confirmed who my bridesmaids are.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
Yeah, and you're one of them. Cool.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Don't have to wear a dress, Oh, I mean you
can if you want to. Cool okay, because my graduation
ended around five PM and my parents didn't make it
home until around eleven that night. My parents tried to
plan a celebratory dinner for me Sunday. The places I
really wanted to eat at are closed on Sundays and Mondays.
Now they're pushing it to this Saturday so everyone in
the family could come. I already told them they can't
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really make up for missing my graduation though, at least
that's how I feel. A dinner after the fact doesn't
fix how invisible I felt. To be honest, but you
guys will never be invisible to us because we're always
making you full episodes for you to listen to with
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a little bit left to the sat.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
It is sad. I mean, it's just like the family's
just so obviously choosing yeah the sister, and the sister
is not care, doesn't care if he's.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
There, Like, Wow, not of your sister who it seems
like they were close before. Do not have your sister
be at your wedding to not have anyone go to
her graduation? Wow? But let's finish this off. They're upset
that I said at dinner and wasn't really going to
make up for missing my graduation. They said they thought
long and hard about it and figured I'd still have
the chance to graduate college later on and they could
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see me then. Meanwhile, they wouldn't have to miss my
sister's weddings since she'd only get married once. My sister
and the rest of the family have been texting me
congratulations now, but it all just feels late, if that
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
I'm happy I graduated, but I do feel a little overlooked.
Comments coming one says this situation just sucks. I want
to give Op the biggest hug. Another reply says same.
The parents should have persuaded the older sister to change
the date or made dang sure one of them could
be there for.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Yeah, exactly, which is what we suggested.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
What a crappy family all in all, heartbreaking. Comment two
says the situation sucks, but I'm a little baffled about
why at least one member of the family didn't go
to cheer on Op and then they high tail it
over to the wedding and attend the reception. If I'd
been the oldest sister, I would have announced Op's arrival
at the reception and let everyone cheer she walked in.
That would have been no one to go to the graduation. Yeah,
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and why did Op just go home instead of going
to the second after the wedding? Well, because Opie was sad. Yeah,
O if he was sad, no one came to their
graduation and then expected.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
State or something like it was an hour and a half,
an hour a half away.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Yeah. Another reply says, yeah, even if it meant op
he missed some part of the wedding, I would have
wanted my sister there and would have arranged for her
to be there. I understand not moving the date because yeah,
wedding venues, you got to get them on time. But
I don't understand not doing everything possible to have your
sister there tbh. I blame the parents. Parents need to
know the date of the graduation, let everyone know and
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make sure people attended the graduation, and that is the end.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Wow. Wow, I feel so bad for Op. But maybe
you kind of like know a little bit more where
you stand with these relationships and know maybe to invest
in different ones. Agreed, But it's definitely hard.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Really sucks, sucks.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
It sucks to see, but but else sucks less. I mean,
I guess this sucks too, exactly the end of that story.
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