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00:18 r/BestofRedditorUpdates - [9] I might have a stalker. What can I do?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Cowboy Sam and this is Eh John.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
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Much they're paid us the bucks to help this show
stay alive. My former best friend is stalking me. I
think they just miss you and trigger warning for stalking
and intimidation. Location East Tennessee, USA.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
This is in Knoxville, I or John Johnson, Yes, I
know where this is.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well, there you go. I don't think anything illegal has occurred,
but I think the situation is spiraling in that direction.
I'm getting letters in the mail and now phone calls
at my workplace from a guy I haven't seen in
ten years. He won't stop. This has been going on
for about two years now. I'm really scared he's going
to show up here. I work at an elementary school
(00:52):
and it's my worst nightmare that'll come for me freak
out and innocent children get caught in the crossfire.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I might know who this is.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
That's terrifying. By the way, this comes from Hopeful Muppet
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Speaker 2 (01:08):
I'm Sophia, I'm Riley, I'm kinda from East Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I'm Carly, and we're here to give good advice. Goofy,
but we don't have all the answers. We only know
what we'd do, So let us know what you would
do in the comments and background. This dude used to
be my best friend in middle school. In high school,
we talked nerd stuff most of the time, like video
games and comics. I'm arroace to the core, and I
was well aware of rumors that he was crushing on me,
(01:36):
so now and then I would sprinkle my feelings into conversations.
Dating is gross, stupid, waste of time. I don't like guys,
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I don't like other guys, is what he heard.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, he said. He said dating is gross when it's
not you. Dating is stupid when it's not with you.
Dating is such a waste of time when I'm not
with you. I don't like guys.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Unless you's gonna save you from this, don't you worry.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I thought I covered all my bases, but he still
asked me out in high school. I said no and
reiterated that I already informed him that I don't date
and wasn't interested. He looked like his soul passed away,
and from that point forward never spoke to me or
even looked in my direction ever. Again.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
This might have happened to my friend Nina back in
East Tennessee, Dan, because she also works out elementary school.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
So you might know this guy.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I don't know the guy that I know.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
OP should text her? I might this year.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Bro, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm going to fast.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Forward to two years ago. I got a letter in
the school's mailbox, a handwritten letter with brown stains all
over it, asking how I've been and now it's so
crazy ten years have past, and asking to meet up again.
He left his phone number, email, and address. I'm not stupid.
It's obviously sketchy as heck, so I ignored it. Then
I got another one a few months later, identical down
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to the letter, Then another several months after that. The
third one I threw in the trash. The fourth one
returned to send her with the paper of my own stating,
do not contact me this morning. Our front office is
getting repeated calls asking for me. I panicked, pretended I
couldn't hear him, and hung up. I'm afraid to ask
if he's still calling, what can I do now? I
(03:20):
already called the post office and they stopped him from
sending mail, and it's not illegal to make phone calls.
My instincts are right ninety nine percent of the time,
and my gut is telling me things are going to escalate.
I briefly entertain calling his local police department to talk
to him, but I don't know if that's the thing
I'm allowed to do. You don't know until you try.
(03:40):
I've never had problems like this before. Can someone please
point me in the right direction? Please? And there are
some relevant comments.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I waity remember a story yeah where this take was
very effective.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
What this person is They got a boyfriend, and this
boyfriend stalked their stalk and then that scared their stocker away.
Eh yeah, well there you go. And then the stalker
that was stalking in the first place found out about
the person that was stalking them was like, I'm very uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
This is really ye oh yeah I read this story.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah yeah, I think you need to find a stalker
for your stalkers, so they can get a taste of
their own blood.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Taste of their own blood, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
The stock's blood. Yeah, not of their own blood, that's
what they say.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
That's insane, right, taste of your own medicine.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
It's not blood.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Common one.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I've been hanging out with too many vampires.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Then I would imagine that you have shut down social
media content. You need to bring this to your employer's
attention immediately. Stop hiding it. Make it known how scared
you are. People can't keep eyes open if you keep
your mouth shut. You need to alert friends and family.
People need to hear it. Security camera needs to go
up inside and outside of all doors, check windows and
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lock them down if they open up and down at
a wooden bar, there are manual door alarms that you
can buy cheaply online. They stick to the door with
adhesive or a screw and make an obnoxiously loud sound
of your preference should a door be open. You can
get the same alarms for windows. To reach out to
a lawyer for education about your rights. They might be
able to write something to spook the butt hat away,
(05:14):
but they can also teach you what steps you should
take to build an intimidation case. A consultation with a
lawyer is worth a couple hundred bucks for peace of mind.
You can also speak with your local police to learn
how these situations are handled in your area. Calling the
non emergency line or going to the station is the
best method for that. Stop throwing away the letters. You
need them if you ever go to court. Every email,
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every text, every phone call needs to be logged. Keep
track of the time, date, phone number, any messages left,
make paper trails. Just don't sit there hiding in fear.
That's probably the most dangerous thing you can do in
a stalking situation. Be loud, be vigilant. Oh P says, thankfully,
I kept the original letter just in case because I'm paranoid.
(05:57):
My principal got our school officer and detective involved. He
thinks I have enough information to get a restraining order
and possibly press charges. I already have security cameras around
my home, and my workplace has cameras everywhere. They even
changed my schedule so that I'm never alone. I'm grateful
I work with good people.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Dude, that's an awesome work place.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, they all have your back, and that's the most
important thing. I'm glad that you reached out to them
and let them know, and you got a detective involved.
You are absolutely right. I was hoping he would give up,
but he's clearly sick and needs help. But now I
have no choice. I can't let him near these students.
I love them like my own is there.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I've seen a YouTube channel, yeah, where this girl is
breaking up with her very like really bad realized ship
X and these guys come and they're like here for her,
and they're like, hey, man, you gotta leave, and they're
like kind of her protectors. There's something we can do there,
like higher protectors or like get a big brother involved.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I don't even. But the thing is, I don't know
if she knows where he lives or at least specifically,
because he's just sending like letters and stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
No return addresses on it. This guy's yeah, I don't
go wild.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Would he sends something back return to sender?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, but you that just goes return to center, But.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
They'd need the return address to know how to return
it to the sender.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
That's true. It probably would have an address on it,
So I guess you could reach out to him, but
probably yeah, you know, so probably just do detective stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Guys. I'm getting together a business called working on the name,
But essentially we come to your stalker's house, tell him
no more, beat him up, and we have a team
of how to locate them, and we have like what
I need to be skilled? Yes, tall people. I need
big scary looking guys that have the heart of a
(07:45):
teddy bear, but like are also incidating. If you have them,
send me their contact information. Yeah, please, I would love
to call them.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
What is this some kind of suicide squad?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah? Yeah, if they got some jail time but they
came out of it great. Also is yeah, it's a
part better. Yeah, it's hard for people like coming out
of jotaphone jobs. I will give them a job.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Give him a job.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Also, what chat pointed out, I just double checked he
left his phone, email and address in the letter.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Good point. So yeah, send that to the detective.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Comment too, this isn't a mite. You are being hassled
and stalked and you have a right to be left alone.
Here's some steps you can take to assert that legal right.
Send a cease and desist letter, return receipt requested. You
don't need a lawyer for this, but if you can
afford an hour of one's time and think it would
give you a peace of mind, have a lawyer do it.
You'd probably want a lawyer that is experienced in family law.
(08:36):
The cease and assist letters should tell him to not
contact you in any way and that you will be
pursuing a restraining order against him if he contacts you again.
There are free templates for this that you can trivially
find online. This gives you documentation that one you told
them to go away, Two he received your message telling
him to go away or refused, but refusing a certified
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letter isn't a strong defense, and three the exact time
when he received your message telling him to go away.
Tell your employer that this guy is stocking you, to
not forward any calls, not let him in on premises,
and that you're looking into restraining order. If you hear
from him again, go to your local police department and
request a restraining order. You can do this right now, too,
(09:18):
but more documentation equals better. You can also go to
the police in the town he lives in, but it's
probably easier to go to your town's police department. Plus
his might tell you to handle it in your locality.
They shouldn't tell you to bug off, but it's very
possible that they might keep all the documents on hand. Also,
ideally back them up in eycloud or whatever cloud storage
service your phone is easy backups to. If he has
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a restraining order served against him, his local cop should
confiscate any weapons he might have. I wish you the
best of luck, and OP says, thank you so much
for the tips. Our resource officer is involved now and
we are getting set for a restraining order. Apparently he
called again talking crazy stuff, so the detective wants to
press charges to keep them away from the area. And
(10:01):
there is an update.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I also got an update. What so instead of me
making this company, there's already a system in place. Biker
gangs there you go. Sorry, sorry, biker clubs.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Biker clubs, just like in Veronica, Mars. Yeah, gets the
biker club on our side.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I think maybe hitting up if you are going through
some of this, hitting up your local biker club, explaining
the situation, and I think they would actually love to
help you out.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Bring them some cookies. Yeah, I think you could work.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I feel like they like simple chocolate too.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
They like their chocolate chip kind of people.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Maybe peanut butter.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Oh well, but you don't want to worry about allergies.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I don't think you can have a peanut butter allergy
and pean a biker club.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
They're not extensive. I don't think they're exclusive.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Really. Yeah, oh man, I thought they like rub peanut
butter on whoever, just to make sure, Oh he's good.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
One month later, I posted on here a little over
a month ago, asking for advice on an uncomfortable situation.
I thought it was fair to update since I got
advice from you nice people. All right, here's the update.
A few hours after our court session. It felt like
a disaster. I was a wrex, so I probably didn't
explain as much as I could, but I told the
judge how uncomfortable I was and that I wanted to
(11:13):
be left alone. I was visibly shaking and crying while
I tried to explain the situation. Although no threats were made,
I was still uncomfortable. The judge offered us two choices,
a mutual restraining order so neither of us was allowed
to contact the other, or a trial if someone wanted
to dispute the order. His mother was loudly whispering agree,
just agree. I agreed, He however, did not. According to him,
(11:36):
I was wasting everyone's time with misunderstandings and false statements.
We have so much proof that you yourself have given,
literally proves that you are.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
So guilty, But Sophia can't reason with the fool true guys.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Man is a fool. Straight yeah, He stated I was
one of multiple people he was trying to reconnect with,
and that I was exaggerating the number of letters he sent.
He claims too, but I got four and only kept one,
which I brought to court. He put all the blame
on me for not speaking to him. He also said
he never received my note telling him not to contact me.
(12:13):
He got in trouble multiple times for speaking out of
turn and constantly putting his hands in his pockets. He
spoke and gestured dramatically like he was on some kind
of TV show. Everyone in the room looked confused and uncomfortable.
The judge even stopped more than once to question the
fact that this guy insists he isn't a stalker, but
also refuses the restraining order at the same time. Unfortunately,
(12:34):
because he claims to not know that I didn't want
to communicate with him, I can't get a restraining order.
That is not how that works.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Man.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Apparently ignoring his attempts for two years doesn't automatically equate
to I don't want to talk.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
The judge did send a letter back thing, don't contact me.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Well, he's saying that I didn't get that letter. That
was his excuse. So now oh, he's saying, I never
knew that you didn't want to talk to me, and
so oh, he's like, well, even if you didn't get
the letter, I would think that not talking to you
also maybe.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
If you're talking to someone and they're not responding, Abe,
that's a hint.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
The judge did give him a stern warning to leave
me alone and that any more calls or letters will
result in bigger consequences.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Okay, at least we're leaving with this.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, at least we've got the law on your side. Op,
he's gotta be in bait trouble. The officer stayed at
my side the whole time and even kept him in
the courtroom longer to give me time to leave without
being seen by him. So there's a little bit left.
I feel like, OHP's got it. All handled. That is
such a scary situation, but I do appreciate that it
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seems like she had everyone on her side. She went,
got a lawyer, got to court, So it seems like
you're doing everything you can. Scary situation, but like you're
handling it well.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Only I've been in one encounter where I didn't feel safe,
and it was between like two guys and a girl,
and I was still like, ah, I feel uncomfortable, like
something could happen here, and I just like, it's not
no fun going through this. Have you guys ever been
through I had a.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Well, somewhat recently. I guess it's not like a terrible
it's not a bad, bad situation, and it's not technically stalking.
But there's this guy that I went to college with
who I never met at college but knew of and
he did not have the best reputation in college either.
Oh that keeps coming to my plays and to try
and ask me out, and I'm like, please stop. Ye, like,
(14:27):
I never respond to him. He wasn't. He wasn't this one.
I think he hopefully is my boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Oh your boyfriend? Okay, wouldn't say that now, ye boyfriend?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
So I guess that's all I can do. Hope for
the best. Is there anything else I can do to
protect myself? I don't really blame the judge on the technicality,
but that doesn't mean I'm not still paranoid and uncomfortable.
At least there were plenty of witnesses to his strange behavior. Today.
I'm hoping this is the end of it, but I
still feel scared. Is there anything else I can do?
(14:56):
And some relevant comments? Says common One says, don't be
yourself up. Sounds like you did great. Everyone can see
what you can see, the judge, his mom, the officers, everyone,
And while you didn't get what you wanted, you laid
the first step. Next time he contacts you in any way,
you'll have a clear path to getting the restraining order
you want. But chances are you never hear from him again.
(15:19):
And besides, you don't want a mutual restraining order that
beyond your record too. Hope he says, I never thought
about it like that. I guess everything worked out as
well as it could. Thank you for changing my perspective.
Comment to says, I am not a lawyer. I am
not your lawyer. I would submit that bigger consequences for
any more calls and letters should probably serve about as
well as a deterrent as a restraining order. A restraining
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order would still mean that you would need to alert
someone if you did contact you again. Obviously, and unfortunately,
a restraining order is not a magical bubble. What you
have is different from a restraining order and will likely
involve a different process if more happens. But it sounds
like he has a guarantee of serious consequence if he
contacts you again. Either way, perhaps that is worth some solace. Oh,
(16:05):
he says. Everyone keeps telling me to calm down, and
I'm trying my best. You're right that the results are
pretty much the same either way. I just need to
deal with this paranoia for a while. Thank you for
your kind words. Comment Thri says, Unfortunately, our legal system
is usually a process. It's rarely one and done. You've
taken the first step and made his behavior known, and
now he's been warned by the judge. You also now
(16:28):
know to document everything. If any more letters show up,
save them and alert the police immediately. Also ensure your
employer documents any calls from him and alerts the police
immediately if he does call. I'm guessing he'll stop, but
if he doesn't, you're now one step closer to him
facing real consequences. And Op says, thankfully, our school has
(16:49):
great security, tons of cameras and an attentive soro. She
tells me often that they have my back. Plus she's
good friends with our towns detective. You have a town's
to detective.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Set of a city detective. Do those city detectives are
very like snobby?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Well, I feel like, yeah, you just got a small
town detective. He wears a little fedora and a coat,
and he goes around smoking a little bubble pipe.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Mmmm, bubble bar ash.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I think we've cut the criminal bubble bubble comment for
cameras can help provide proof he is physically following you.
Most folks are a lot less clever than they think
they are. Cameras for home. If you feel he might
be stalking you on foot, you can put a rear
facing go pro type on a backpack. Oh, pieces, cameras
are a must. I have them facing all parts of
(17:36):
my property and with motion sensors they definitely give me
a little piece of mind. Mine are set to flash
bright lights if something activates the motion sensors. A few
years ago. It's spooked a guy trying to get into
my mother's car. When the lights came on, he took
off running. I recommend the ring system to anyone. And
that is the end of that story.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I'm just glad this one turned out pretty good. Yeah,
not what we wanted. We wanted the restraining order.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
But like you know, it can be so much worse.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
But we put the fear of the judicial system in
the judicial system. That worked out well. Yeah, my friend
is forcing me to learn the violin in one year
for her wedding. Why. I, twenty three female, have a
friend twenty two female from school who asked me to
be in her wedding over lunch today. I have known
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this girl for about two years and because we share
the same major, we are school friends. We partner up
in classes, do projects together, et cetera. But I don't
really know or hang out with her outside of this setting.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
You don't hang out with her.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Basically, schoolwork that's all they do.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
And to learn the violin, that's that's like. Imagine imagine
like some guy or some person in your class. Yeah,
and you're having like you're getting married and you reach
out to them and you're like, hey, I know you
know how we took like psych one O one together.
I need you to learn the violin immediately. Now start working.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Anyway, she asked me to be in her wedding, and
I assume she meant as a bride'smaid, but I was wrong.
By the way, this comes from Breeze Blocks. And if
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We may seem like we do, but we don't. But
if you have anything you'd like to add, please edit
below in the comments. We'd love to read them. So,
(19:26):
he continues. She said she had a dream of her
perfect wedding and it was so beautiful. She woke up crying,
wrote it all down and cried for hours because it
was just so beautiful and perfect. She even made some
sketches and said that this was a vision from God
from her wedding. She couldn't even explain the warmth and
ecstatic love to me because she didn't have the words,
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but that she would do anything to capture it perfectly.
I believe her.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
She's like, she's like sobbing. She's like, oh, p you
don't understand. I need a giant spider to be tap dancing, okay,
and I need you to come in. It's beautiful. It
was really beautiful. I need you to come in in
a clown suit.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
This isn't Harry Potter.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, that was. Yeah, that's the only thing I could.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
What are your dreams like so far?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I'm just thinking of a crazy dream that that she's
basing her wedding off of. Ah.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I see, it was a joke. It was a joke.
It was joke. I believe the vision from God. Yeah,
I do believe that he can bless people with uh
with through dreams. It just depends on if you know
tap dancing spiders are involved or not.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I had a dream that I was driving on the
highway and some guy motioned for me to pull roll
down my window and I was like no, So I
rolled down a little bit and then he sticks. He
goes to stick his hand and so I try to
roll it up, but his hand's blocking, so I roll
it down more. He like reaches warding yanks me out
of my car, and I woke up and then I
turned and like in my adult sleep like sleep state,
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thought I saw something like yelled, and then like went
under the covers for like five minutes, and then I
was like, wait, what's going on? And then I fully
woke up and was like, I'm fine, and that's a
vision from God or my wedding plans.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
We're your wedding plans. What about you, Carly? What's your
latest dream?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I have really weird dreams. My latest dream h included
dream Keon being a little witch boy.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Okay, I was mad at him.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I woke up and I was like, dream Keon, dream
Keon's in trouble.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Oh I thought you meant like he was a witch. No,
you mean like be born? Yeah, okay, gotcha?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Oh yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I was like he's been a little a hole. I
got you.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
You were in it too, though.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
You were lovely. Ah shus, thanks, You're not in my dreams.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Okay, girlways mean to me. She then likened herself to
an artist with divine inspiration and went on for about
twenty minutes about the details of her inspiration and how
beautiful and uniting this wedding would be that would change
lives and be so much more than a ceremony, and
that the execution was so perfect it would be more
of a visual statement, an artistic dedication to love that
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everyone will be living a part of Okay, I kind
of like this, in this beautiful, perfect wedding, I'm to
be at the front line of the aisle, playing the
violin as her guests arrive in a long white gown,
feathered and beaded and soft. Very romantic. I will know
it whenever I see it, I laughed and told her
I've never played the violin before. Ana such may have
(22:20):
a hard time performing for her guests. She told me
that I had a year to learn it and that
this was extremely important to her.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
She's looking at you, and she says, I need you
to play the violin, and I need you to play
it like no one's ever played before.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I like how this is so beautiful to her. This
might work out. It may be more than just a wedding.
It might be like the best thing since sliced bread.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
You're about to be a famous violin player. Yeah, I
can only think of a cello players. Yoom. That's the
only one I had to You're about to be the
next yo yo ma. If you played the violin.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Wrong strings the next and Sophie muttered about to be
the next and Sophie mutter.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I looked at what I could of her beautiful wedding notes.
They seemed really intense, lots of stuff, fevershly circled or
written over and over like inspect what you expect repeatedly
and all in white, literally scribbled over other words, copied
into big paragraphs. The part she showed me of my
role just said my name, violent, soft, complex, beautiful and
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integrate concerto, lots of details, while the guests.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
It's just nonsense. Yeah, I can't. I can't even like
the guess the dreams white concerto crescendos like this threat
from a bad woman.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, I'm kind of leaning towards that now. I don't
know how to play the violin at all. I've literally
never touched one, probably don't even know what it looks like.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Do I hold it here like a guitar.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Shannon feverish and flitting from topic to topic, talking about
how maybe I can compose something. But she wanted it
to sound so intricate that no one would believe it
was just one person playing it. Beyond normal bride stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
So she wants you to not only play the violin
at her wedding, have.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Multiple layers of a violin plane, but also play the
violin in a way that no one's ever played a
violin before.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Just don't learn to play the violin. Yeah, and then
it'll sound like no one's ever heard before.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
So true.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Oh pee, I'm gonna teach you a little.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I'm gonna teach you another one.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, that's what you do. You go up to her
and you just say no, that's about it.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Or if you actually love this person, you say yes.
You dedicate every single free second.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Of your life violin, and then you become the next
Lindsay Sterling.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
When I told her, even if I did have a
year to learn how to play, it would be basic
at best, she slammed her hand on the table and said, stop,
my god, and she went right back to her cherry,
exciting talk about her divine wedding. She don't high off
this thing.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, I think she's actually having a mental breakdown.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I very gently tried to refuse and offer to find
a professional play for her. She just said, hm, no, no,
has to be you. I'm sure of it, and went
back to talking as if I had suggested wearing a
hat to the beach.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
This is a prophecy, now, oh.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
She then dropped a bomb. Besides, I already bought your violin,
and it was almost two thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Okay, op, genuinely, you gotta start learning how to play
the violin. She just bought you a two thousand dollars violin.
She's gonna give you a two thousand dollars violin, maybe
for free.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
What I don't know how to play. I told her
she was being insane, but she kept making no noises
or putting up her hands, saying enough. Eventually, she told
me the violin would be here in a few weeks
and that I needed to find someone who gives lessons
and learn. She said she believed in me.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Do it for the plot.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Learn. She told me that worst case scenario, I get
to learn a skill most people would love to learn,
and that if I do well, I give the violin.
It's a payment. I don't want a violin. I don't
want to play. Then she left, and here I am founded. Okay,
this is where I have problem.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I think you have to do it now, No, I
think so. Now we've swapped. Now, I really want you
to do it.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I was thinking there was going to be payment at
the other end of this. No, two thousand dollars violin
that's going to depreciate by the time over a year.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I think. I think, you tell her you how to
pay for my lessons, and then I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I think, lessons and time, free.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Violin, pay for my lessons and pay for my time
at the wedding, at the wedding, and then the violin.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
No, no, no, but pay for the lessons as you're learning it.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I said that, I said, I said, free violin, pay
for my lessons, and potentially pay for me to play
at your wedding, because now I'm a professional violin player.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Now I've learned how to professionally play.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
But I thought, like paying as you're learning kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I don't want to learn. Yeah, but see I want to.
I'm doing this for you.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
All right, all right, all right, all right, realistically, Angie,
I'm getting married September thirtieth next year. Yeah, no joke.
Actually I want you to be play the violin ten number.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
To play the violin.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, wait are you playing? Are you paying for the violin?
I'm paying you just ten thousand flat yes, to get
a violin lap Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
You can buy such a cheap violin and still do
the same, Like I don't need a two thousand dollars violin.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Can buy one thousand dollars I do, I mean would
I'm buying a one thousand dollars violin, and then I'm
spending you know, let's say like one fifty per lesson,
like for the best of the best. I'm getting so
good at the violin, I'm doing it. I totally. If
I was ope and the person said that she would
pay for lessons, I would do it.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
My thing with the needing payment for the wedding too,
is I can already tell how crazy this girl is
going to be about her wedding, and I need like
that kind of damages.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
We take a biology together and did lamps. I don't
know your favorite color. I don't even know where you
came from. I don't even know where.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Who are you getting married to?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yeah, because she also only gets to keep the violin
if the bride think she does well.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, I can't exactly cut ties and run. It is
summer now, but we have a together currently and three
classes together in the fall. I can only see her
getting crazier about this. She's always had a flare for
the dramatics, but she's never been this extreme before. I'm
not sure if this is just megabridezilla energy and she
will get over it, or if I should just pretend
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I don't know her, or if I should call a
looney bin to come pick her up, or just take
up the violin and hope whatever God of weddings visit
her grants meet magical powers.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I really hope that all these relevant commons say, do
it for.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
The plot, for the plot, do it down asaur train. Honestly,
she sounds like she's dealing with a mental illness. Yes,
this is typically the age that schizophrenia kicks in. She
likely doesn't know she has it, nor does anyone else
who loves her and can help her. If I were you,
I would approach her fiance, her family, and school mental health.
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She's not Bridezilla. She's a very sick woman in need
of help. You didn't ask to be in this position,
but you are. You need to get other people involved
in helping her.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Okay, Yeah, that's good advice. Alternate advice, we freaky Friday.
This you pretend like you're playing the violin, but you
get a professional violin.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Behind a curtain. Yes, someone pulls it down the curtain paint.
Pay no attention to that. Yeah, I got you two
violin players.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Obi says, I guess I can try and shoot him
a message to the fiance. God is my co pilot, says,
I think you should mention something to her fiance or family.
Sounds like it is potentially very serious. Not a temper
tantrum or demands. Something is very wrong, Obi says, Facebook
friends with her fiance. What do I even say? I'm
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sure she's told him about this dream of hers. I
mean she like immediately bought a two thousand dollars us.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah, she's definitely a little man.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Absolutely, I'll say all that.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
What Obi says, how are they affording the wedding? She's
not rich, I know. No fiance is in the army.
She's a student who works part time at the Mexican
chain restaurant on campus. I really don't care to learn
the violin, even if she wasn't expecting some kind of
a magic I don't think she is sane enough for
me to take her up on the offer. And two
(30:16):
thousand dollars on a violin seems crazy for a beginner. Anyways, Okay,
now I'm like, we got shift gears here. She's not rich.
I thought she had some bank behind na.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
She doesn't have that. I mean, she's in like school,
doesn't have that money. Definitely get family members involved, any
mental health professional. This is is getting a little not good,
a lot of not good, or you learn the violin.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I was really hoping for her not to be going.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I really hope hoping that it'd be kind of a
Joan of Arc situation.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
That's what I thought at the beginning, but now, like
Jon of Arc, I was hoping for that. Nope. At
first it was kind of funny imagining the awkward swing
that would commence. Then it was horrifying. It was troubling
and really really sad. So did fonce a message on Facebook.
He has seen it, but he hasn't responded. I also
can't believe she spent so much money on a violin
on someone who can't even play even in a year's time.
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How the f can anyone play so well they'd fool
people into thinking multiple people were playing? Is that even possible?
And we have an update?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I want to hear the rest of the wedding personally.
If this is just one aspect of the wedding, what
else is happening here?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
What is a husband doing?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
How is he getting into it? Is he like you know?
Does he have a white horsetro? Is he like white horse?
Roses and doves are flying everywhere?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
He comes down in like a hot air balloon, continuing
the Wizard of Oz theme.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yep, what's up with you today?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I don't know, it's just your dream.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Sophia had a dream last night too.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, guys, you have to learn how to play the
obo in five years.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Update, it's Sam.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
We're gonna get back to the stories. But here's three
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Speaker 2 (32:04):
Asians are still twenty three female and twenty two female,
and the link of the relationship is two years. I
sent him out a fine post to her fiance and
added after, I'm really worried because this seems pretty mentally unstable,
way beyond normal bride stuff. I got this reply on
Facebook from her not a fiance at around two pm today.
I didn't see it because she deleted me from her
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friends and it went to a different mailbox. Facebook is weird.
Thanks so much for trying to tell my husband I'm crazy.
Thank god he understands what it's like to love someone
and what planning a wedding is all about. Excuse me,
I have a dream that I'm passionate about. Trust me,
if you ever get a ring with that attitude, you
will understand too. But I doubt it. Nice try trying
(32:48):
to get in between us. But guess what, sweetie, nothing
can tear us apart, least of all you. Ha ha ha.
You are clearly jealous, and that makes me feel really
bad for you. I flipping it, dude, think.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
You're jealous of my perfect wedding.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Then about an hour ago, I got a message from
her fiance, a long message. The DODR is that she
went completely nuts on a floorist because she's gonna do
her entire wedding in Syria. Hysteria. How dare you? She
almost got arrested for making a scene in this store.
He also found out she spent her financial aid slash
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student loan money for the second half of the summer
and the fall on random wedding stuff, including my violin,
and has been booking venue tours and tasting with ridiculously
expensive prices anyone is familiar with Texas. She is looking
at doing her wedding in a giant castle in the
ritzy Lake Travis area of Austin, near the huge, multi
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million dollar mansions. But where is this?
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Oh boy, you don't have that money, girl.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
He told her about the need for a budget and
being realistic. She threw an epic fit. At this point,
she left and went to her sister's house. Message it back,
saying that she may beat pipolar and in the manick state,
and suggesting asking her sister to maybe get her to
a doctor. He was more upset and focused on being
(34:16):
hurt at what she had said to him about the
wedding than her. She also threw a tantrum and accused
us of sleeping together.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Oh yeah, this is not this is not normal. Definitely
something is going on.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
This isn't fun anymore.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
I just wanted a violin.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Sorry, I wanted a fiddle to be played.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I just wanted this to be a happier version of
your lie in April.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I told him that, needless to say, I would not
be playing the violin in their wedding, and I was
sorry for any trouble. But I really did think it
was best he seeks some mental help for her. He said,
you made your point. You don't need to rub it in.
I can take care of my family.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Well, he's a little nasty too, you made.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I told him I understood and wish them the best
and that I guess that's it. I didn' see her
in class today and looks like she won't be coming
back for fall unless she has a plan to get
more money.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Oof.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Thank you for the help everyone, I really did appreciate
having a few hundred friends in this Commerce says we
demand the long message from the fiance please, Ope says no.
Something feels kind of sleazy about doing that. I did
the update, but there's a difference to me between telling
people the outcome of something that happened to me and
copying out a message about someone I don't know. It
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seems shady and there's some details in it. I'm sure
he would be embarrassed to have out there. She made
a scene and spent all of her money ere march
for school. Use your imagination for the rest. Oh man,
we got one more comment here, honestly, hope he doesn't
even reply. So, yeah, I think this woman needs some help.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yep, but that was a good one.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I feel unwelcome at my friends Quinsaneta, so I'm not
going Well that settles that. And this comes directly from
the r slash Okay story Time Separate. So for context,
I'm gender fluid and eighteen years old. I'll name the
birthday girl Rose. I met Rose in the hospital as
a newborn. My dad actually became friends with Rose's dad
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before I was even born, I believe sometime in the nineties.
I love Rose as a sister and always wanted to
be your friend. By the way, this comes from Sleepy Sheeps.
And if you want to submit your own stories, go
to the r slash Okay Storytime Separated. Then we're here
to give good advice. Goofy. But we don't have all
the answers. We only know what we'd do, so let
us know what you would do in the comments, and
op says. She of course, like most young children, was
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super shy from the moment she started walking and talking.
Over time, as her dad spent more time at my house,
she got closer to me. We became best friends, and
she even admitted years ago that I'm like an older
sister to her. We had lots of sleepovers throughout the years,
and on days her parents wouldn't be home, she stayed
with me. She was my next door neighbor. Because our
families loved being around each other so much, they had
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to live next door. We were even starting to think
about tearing down our fat so we could see each
other every day. With that bit of context, let's go
back to Rose. Rose was kind of a brat, but,
learning from friends with younger siblings, children can be brats.
She was rude and made discriminatory comments a few times,
which I had to teach her were wrong, and she
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was selfish.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Hey, just wanted to inform you that it's never too
late to be a brat.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
You should be a brat at any age. That's true.
Me and Rose were in the same boat, though we
both had one sibling and older brother so old that
by the time we hit the age where we could
finally start having fun, they were both off to college.
I knew since I didn't have an older sister role model,
it was my job to be her big sister role model.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Oh maybe like together I got you. Yeah, I was
about to say, like, I feel like the years of
like zero to seven are probably like the most fun
years of your life. Because it was a comment about
like once we were old enough to start having fun.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah, I feel like you have a lot of fun seven.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I misconstrued that.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
I knew this in my heart, so I was that
also parents and her parents told me to be a
good role model for her and always look out for her.
This led me down a path of always prioritizing her
and doing what she wanted me to do. I didn't
like it, but I didn't want to hurt her feelings
since she's younger than me. Fast forward to twenty twenty one.
I moved out of my home to a bigger house
that kind of suck. I knew our friendship would be different,
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but if I kept putting time and effort into our relationship,
our friendship would never end right wrong. I moved about
a five minute golf cart drive away from her, a
thirty minute walk uphill, one minute drive by car. We
live in a community where most people have golf carts.
She has a golf cart that she can drive. We
have options for how to get to my house. It's
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a thirty minute walk and a one minute drive. It's
like a crazy hill that must be a crazy hill. Sorry,
I just remember, I just like registered that.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Or you are not good with hills? Were our two options?
Hills are your natural nemesis.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Or that is the hill that is Yeah, that's Sissyphis's hill. Cissficient,
siss sissisficient hill. That hill's got Sissyphis. Yeah, get it
checked out. She could either walk or drive. Is her
walk shorter? Well, it's downhill? Is it like a five
second walk downhill? She flew.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
She is the rock.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
She just brings a little like sled.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
She does backhand springs down the whole hill.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Her dad is over at my house almost every weekend.
She's welcomed whenever she wants. Whitney Anderson says, bet it's
a thirty second fall. I was fourteen years old, trying
to make our friendship last. Since I've known this girl
since before she was born. Well, you've only known her
since she was born, because you can't know someone before
they were born. I knew them when they were still
a star child. Matter of fact, there are photos and
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videos of me holding her as a toddler. I'm one
of her oldest friends in life. Yet I had to
put all the effort into our friendship Eventually I got
tired of planning things because if I didn't plan things
with her, it just wouldn't happen. We rarely speak when
we do see each other. She only speaks to me
if I'm a last option. If her cousins are around,
she won't talk to me unless I can benefit them
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in some way, shape or form.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Yeah, So what is his reading as is just like, uh,
a relationship that has changed as your cousin grew up,
and like you guys are striking your own sense of
self a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, And that's say I feel like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Like sometimes when you're like a little kid and you're
falling around your big cousin and you idolize them and
it's great, And then you get older and you're like,
I want to hang around my you know, people my
own age. And then maybe you a couple of years
later come back around you're like, I want to hang
out with my cousin again because we're at the same level.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Now, Say, what's your like an adolescent to the end
of being a teenager, and then even early adulthood, it's
like it's easy to just like be focused on yeah,
things that don't matter at all, and he realized, Oh,
I didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
I just like my cousin. I want to hang out
with my cousin.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
I finally realized I was always a last resort. When
I told them how I felt, I just got a
simple okay or sorry you felt that way. I realized
I deserve better, and if my own friends don't care
to see me, well I don't need them anyways. Are
they the same age? Sure, the op's three years older.
We went no contact, and the last time I saw
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Rose she was quite rude toward me. She repeatedly hit
me in the face with her sweater and even clipped
me with the zipper, which really hurt. I had to
sit next to her in a car because my mom
and I were running late for the airport and my
dad took the only working car that day. His car
was at our repair shop, so we borrowed my mom's car.
Fast forward to today. Sometime in August, we received an
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invite for roses Keithsinnetta. I don't really want to go.
When we were younger, me and Rose planned her Kitsignetta together,
including the dress. She promised me that she would take
me dress shopping with her and the family to pick
out the dress due to how our friendship turned out.
Of course, I didn't go dress shopping. I didn't even
know she had picked out a dress already. She promised
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me for years when we were younger, that we would
do a dance together and then I would do her
traditional dance with her cousins, which if you can't tell,
I won't be doing on her invites. I found out
she took photos with our shared friend Millie. Personally, I
just don't want to go to our Kinsinetta. I got
a courtesy invite because my parents are invited. I'm not
really wanted there. I'll be left on my own with
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my parents, who will end up doing their own thing.
I'll have no friends at the event, and honestly, Rose
wouldn't care if I showed up or didn't show up.
I would rather spend time with my friends who would
actually care about my presence. So there is a little
bit left to the story. But do you have any
final thoughts for our Okay, listener.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
I kind of agree that Rose wouldn't care, but it's
really just up to you.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Is your call. I guess you want to go or not,
but your cousin I don't.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Are they cousins. Weren't they.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
I thought they were their cousins.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Okay, cool, I don't think it specified three years older,
but OPI is older.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Well if the keys and her is happening, that she's
steen I, Op's eighteen.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah, Op's eighteen. I don't think they're cousins. She was
my next door neighbor. I think I think they were
just family friends. Parents are best friends. Yeah, it's like,
it's that kind of cousin.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
They are looking like their cousins. You like they're saying cousin,
but they're not.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Don't they're Actually. I think, especially at that age, you
get some this kind of attitude and I think you know,
just know that right now, if you're not close, that's okay.
Sometimes friendships fade, they change, it's it's you know, they're
they're never going to be solid forever, and sometimes they
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come back around. I said this yesterday, but I think
friendships kind of do like a this. Sometimes they just
do this, Sometimes they do this. There's a lot of
different ways that friendships occur, and sometimes they do this. Whoa,
And that's a messy friendship. But we've got a little
bit left to this story. I don't want to be
a drama queen, just be sad and alone at the Kingsannetta. Honestly,
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if I disappeared, Rose probably wouldn't care and would say, oh,
that's the sad then move on. Also, knowing Rose, if
she wanted to be there, she would say it in
person or call me to see if I could make it.
She has an reached out to me, and personally, I
don't care. I just want to move on with my life.
I know my parents will be upset that I won't come,
but just for my mental health and well being, it
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would be better if I don't go to the King Signetta.
I'm probably just got to plan something around that timeframe. Anyway,
I have plenty of time to plan since the King
Signetta is in December twenty twenty five and we're in
September twenty twenty five. So Reddit, am I the ale
for not going to the King Sennetta? No, you're not
the ale. Just guys. You guys aren't close anymore. And
that's okay. Sad, but it's okay. Yeah, But that's the
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end of that story, folks. And we've got some comments.
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flags for all the roommates except Omar.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Yes, Omar was a Omar excuse, But yeah, I remember,
I remember Omar was af the shout out Omar.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
I don't remember this story.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
Comment to by individual girl. I was in a relationship
and he was cheating. We had a mutual friend and
she knew because she knew the girl, she didn't tell
me or the other girl because she felt it wasn't
her place. We are no longer friends.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
I uh, this was a messy situation. So messy A.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
Commenter by it's a me malio. How crazy would it
be that it turns out Cindy hasn't shown up to
classes and has been trying to reach out to Matt
because she's pregnant.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Oh my goodness that story. Would he get even crazier
than I already? Was a surprise?
Speaker 4 (46:36):
Pregnancy would always make something a little crazier, now, wouldn't it?
Speaker 3 (46:39):
And last comment by Isabella Kitchen six' eighty just saying
Omar didn't create drama, Matt did by putting them in
this situation to begin with, and being a cheating a hoole.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Exactly exactly everyone's Oh Omar is gonna.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Get Jama, No free Omar.
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stay alive. My former best friend is stalking me. I
think they just miss you and trigger warning for stalking
and intimidation. Location East Tennessee, USA.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
This is in Knoxville, I or John Johnson, Yes, I
know where this is.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well, there you go. I don't think anything illegal has occurred,
but I think the situation is spiraling in that direction.
I'm getting letters in the mail and now phone calls
at my workplace from a guy I haven't seen in
ten years. He won't stop. This has been going on
for about two years now. I'm really scared he's going
to show up here. I work at an elementary school
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and it's my worst nightmare that'll come for me freak
out and innocent children get caught in the crossfire.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I might know who this is.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
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I'm Sophia, I'm Riley, I'm kinda from East Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I'm Carly, and we're here to give good advice. Goofy,
but we don't have all the answers. We only know
what we'd do, So let us know what you would
do in the comments and background. This dude used to
be my best friend in middle school. In high school,
we talked nerd stuff most of the time, like video
games and comics. I'm arroace to the core, and I
was well aware of rumors that he was crushing on me,
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so now and then I would sprinkle my feelings into conversations.
Dating is gross, stupid, waste of time. I don't like guys,
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I don't like other guys, is what he heard.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, he said. He said dating is gross when it's
not you. Dating is stupid when it's not with you.
Dating is such a waste of time when I'm not
with you. I don't like guys.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Unless you's gonna save you from this, don't you worry.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I thought I covered all my bases, but he still
asked me out in high school. I said no and
reiterated that I already informed him that I don't date
and wasn't interested. He looked like his soul passed away,
and from that point forward never spoke to me or
even looked in my direction ever. Again.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
This might have happened to my friend Nina back in
East Tennessee, Dan, because she also works out elementary school.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
So you might know this guy.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I don't know the guy that I know.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
OP should text her? I might this year.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Bro, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm going to fast.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Forward to two years ago. I got a letter in
the school's mailbox, a handwritten letter with brown stains all
over it, asking how I've been and now it's so
crazy ten years have past, and asking to meet up again.
He left his phone number, email, and address. I'm not stupid.
It's obviously sketchy as heck, so I ignored it. Then
I got another one a few months later, identical down
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to the letter, Then another several months after that. The
third one I threw in the trash. The fourth one
returned to send her with the paper of my own stating,
do not contact me this morning. Our front office is
getting repeated calls asking for me. I panicked, pretended I
couldn't hear him, and hung up. I'm afraid to ask
if he's still calling, what can I do now? I
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already called the post office and they stopped him from
sending mail, and it's not illegal to make phone calls.
My instincts are right ninety nine percent of the time,
and my gut is telling me things are going to escalate.
I briefly entertain calling his local police department to talk
to him, but I don't know if that's the thing
I'm allowed to do. You don't know until you try.
(03:40):
I've never had problems like this before. Can someone please
point me in the right direction? Please? And there are
some relevant comments.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I waity remember a story yeah where this take was
very effective.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
What this person is They got a boyfriend, and this
boyfriend stalked their stalk and then that scared their stocker away.
Eh yeah, well there you go. And then the stalker
that was stalking in the first place found out about
the person that was stalking them was like, I'm very uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
This is really ye oh yeah I read this story.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah yeah, I think you need to find a stalker
for your stalkers, so they can get a taste of
their own blood.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Taste of their own blood, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
The stock's blood. Yeah, not of their own blood, that's
what they say.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
That's insane, right, taste of your own medicine.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
It's not blood.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Common one.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I've been hanging out with too many vampires.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Then I would imagine that you have shut down social
media content. You need to bring this to your employer's
attention immediately. Stop hiding it. Make it known how scared
you are. People can't keep eyes open if you keep
your mouth shut. You need to alert friends and family.
People need to hear it. Security camera needs to go
up inside and outside of all doors, check windows and
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lock them down if they open up and down at
a wooden bar, there are manual door alarms that you
can buy cheaply online. They stick to the door with
adhesive or a screw and make an obnoxiously loud sound
of your preference should a door be open. You can
get the same alarms for windows. To reach out to
a lawyer for education about your rights. They might be
able to write something to spook the butt hat away,
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but they can also teach you what steps you should
take to build an intimidation case. A consultation with a
lawyer is worth a couple hundred bucks for peace of mind.
You can also speak with your local police to learn
how these situations are handled in your area. Calling the
non emergency line or going to the station is the
best method for that. Stop throwing away the letters. You
need them if you ever go to court. Every email,
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every text, every phone call needs to be logged. Keep
track of the time, date, phone number, any messages left,
make paper trails. Just don't sit there hiding in fear.
That's probably the most dangerous thing you can do in
a stalking situation. Be loud, be vigilant. Oh P says, thankfully,
I kept the original letter just in case because I'm paranoid.
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My principal got our school officer and detective involved. He
thinks I have enough information to get a restraining order
and possibly press charges. I already have security cameras around
my home, and my workplace has cameras everywhere. They even
changed my schedule so that I'm never alone. I'm grateful
I work with good people.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Dude, that's an awesome work place.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, they all have your back, and that's the most
important thing. I'm glad that you reached out to them
and let them know, and you got a detective involved.
You are absolutely right. I was hoping he would give up,
but he's clearly sick and needs help. But now I
have no choice. I can't let him near these students.
I love them like my own is there.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I've seen a YouTube channel, yeah, where this girl is
breaking up with her very like really bad realized ship
X and these guys come and they're like here for her,
and they're like, hey, man, you gotta leave, and they're
like kind of her protectors. There's something we can do there,
like higher protectors or like get a big brother involved.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I don't even. But the thing is, I don't know
if she knows where he lives or at least specifically,
because he's just sending like letters and stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
No return addresses on it. This guy's yeah, I don't
go wild.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Would he sends something back return to sender?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, but you that just goes return to center, But.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
They'd need the return address to know how to return
it to the sender.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
That's true. It probably would have an address on it,
So I guess you could reach out to him, but
probably yeah, you know, so probably just do detective stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Guys. I'm getting together a business called working on the name,
But essentially we come to your stalker's house, tell him
no more, beat him up, and we have a team
of how to locate them, and we have like what
I need to be skilled? Yes, tall people. I need
big scary looking guys that have the heart of a
(07:45):
teddy bear, but like are also incidating. If you have them,
send me their contact information. Yeah, please, I would love
to call them.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
What is this some kind of suicide squad?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah? Yeah, if they got some jail time but they
came out of it great. Also is yeah, it's a
part better. Yeah, it's hard for people like coming out
of jotaphone jobs. I will give them a job.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Give him a job.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Also, what chat pointed out, I just double checked he
left his phone, email and address in the letter.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Good point. So yeah, send that to the detective.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Comment too, this isn't a mite. You are being hassled
and stalked and you have a right to be left alone.
Here's some steps you can take to assert that legal right.
Send a cease and desist letter, return receipt requested. You
don't need a lawyer for this, but if you can
afford an hour of one's time and think it would
give you a peace of mind, have a lawyer do it.
You'd probably want a lawyer that is experienced in family law.
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The cease and assist letters should tell him to not
contact you in any way and that you will be
pursuing a restraining order against him if he contacts you again.
There are free templates for this that you can trivially
find online. This gives you documentation that one you told
them to go away, Two he received your message telling
him to go away or refused, but refusing a certified
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letter isn't a strong defense, and three the exact time
when he received your message telling him to go away.
Tell your employer that this guy is stocking you, to
not forward any calls, not let him in on premises,
and that you're looking into restraining order. If you hear
from him again, go to your local police department and
request a restraining order. You can do this right now, too,
(09:18):
but more documentation equals better. You can also go to
the police in the town he lives in, but it's
probably easier to go to your town's police department. Plus
his might tell you to handle it in your locality.
They shouldn't tell you to bug off, but it's very
possible that they might keep all the documents on hand. Also,
ideally back them up in eycloud or whatever cloud storage
service your phone is easy backups to. If he has
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a restraining order served against him, his local cop should
confiscate any weapons he might have. I wish you the
best of luck, and OP says, thank you so much
for the tips. Our resource officer is involved now and
we are getting set for a restraining order. Apparently he
called again talking crazy stuff, so the detective wants to
press charges to keep them away from the area. And
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there is an update.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I also got an update. What so instead of me
making this company, there's already a system in place. Biker
gangs there you go. Sorry, sorry, biker clubs.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Biker clubs, just like in Veronica, Mars. Yeah, gets the
biker club on our side.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I think maybe hitting up if you are going through
some of this, hitting up your local biker club, explaining
the situation, and I think they would actually love to
help you out.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Bring them some cookies. Yeah, I think you could work.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I feel like they like simple chocolate too.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
They like their chocolate chip kind of people.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Maybe peanut butter.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Oh well, but you don't want to worry about allergies.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I don't think you can have a peanut butter allergy
and pean a biker club.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
They're not extensive. I don't think they're exclusive.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Really. Yeah, oh man, I thought they like rub peanut
butter on whoever, just to make sure, Oh he's good.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
One month later, I posted on here a little over
a month ago, asking for advice on an uncomfortable situation.
I thought it was fair to update since I got
advice from you nice people. All right, here's the update.
A few hours after our court session. It felt like
a disaster. I was a wrex, so I probably didn't
explain as much as I could, but I told the
judge how uncomfortable I was and that I wanted to
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be left alone. I was visibly shaking and crying while
I tried to explain the situation. Although no threats were made,
I was still uncomfortable. The judge offered us two choices,
a mutual restraining order so neither of us was allowed
to contact the other, or a trial if someone wanted
to dispute the order. His mother was loudly whispering agree,
just agree. I agreed, He however, did not. According to him,
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I was wasting everyone's time with misunderstandings and false statements.
We have so much proof that you yourself have given,
literally proves that you are.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
So guilty, But Sophia can't reason with the fool true guys.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Man is a fool. Straight yeah, He stated I was
one of multiple people he was trying to reconnect with,
and that I was exaggerating the number of letters he sent.
He claims too, but I got four and only kept one,
which I brought to court. He put all the blame
on me for not speaking to him. He also said
he never received my note telling him not to contact me.
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He got in trouble multiple times for speaking out of
turn and constantly putting his hands in his pockets. He
spoke and gestured dramatically like he was on some kind
of TV show. Everyone in the room looked confused and uncomfortable.
The judge even stopped more than once to question the
fact that this guy insists he isn't a stalker, but
also refuses the restraining order at the same time. Unfortunately,
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because he claims to not know that I didn't want
to communicate with him, I can't get a restraining order.
That is not how that works.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Man.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Apparently ignoring his attempts for two years doesn't automatically equate
to I don't want to talk.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
The judge did send a letter back thing, don't contact me.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Well, he's saying that I didn't get that letter. That
was his excuse. So now oh, he's saying, I never
knew that you didn't want to talk to me, and
so oh, he's like, well, even if you didn't get
the letter, I would think that not talking to you
also maybe.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
If you're talking to someone and they're not responding, Abe,
that's a hint.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
The judge did give him a stern warning to leave
me alone and that any more calls or letters will
result in bigger consequences.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Okay, at least we're leaving with this.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, at least we've got the law on your side. Op,
he's gotta be in bait trouble. The officer stayed at
my side the whole time and even kept him in
the courtroom longer to give me time to leave without
being seen by him. So there's a little bit left.
I feel like, OHP's got it. All handled. That is
such a scary situation, but I do appreciate that it
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seems like she had everyone on her side. She went,
got a lawyer, got to court, So it seems like
you're doing everything you can. Scary situation, but like you're
handling it well.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Only I've been in one encounter where I didn't feel safe,
and it was between like two guys and a girl,
and I was still like, ah, I feel uncomfortable, like
something could happen here, and I just like, it's not
no fun going through this. Have you guys ever been
through I had a.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Well, somewhat recently. I guess it's not like a terrible
it's not a bad, bad situation, and it's not technically stalking.
But there's this guy that I went to college with
who I never met at college but knew of and
he did not have the best reputation in college either.
Oh that keeps coming to my plays and to try
and ask me out, and I'm like, please stop. Ye, like,
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I never respond to him. He wasn't. He wasn't this one.
I think he hopefully is my boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Oh your boyfriend? Okay, wouldn't say that now, ye boyfriend?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
So I guess that's all I can do. Hope for
the best. Is there anything else I can do to
protect myself? I don't really blame the judge on the technicality,
but that doesn't mean I'm not still paranoid and uncomfortable.
At least there were plenty of witnesses to his strange behavior. Today.
I'm hoping this is the end of it, but I
still feel scared. Is there anything else I can do?
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And some relevant comments? Says common One says, don't be
yourself up. Sounds like you did great. Everyone can see
what you can see, the judge, his mom, the officers, everyone,
And while you didn't get what you wanted, you laid
the first step. Next time he contacts you in any way,
you'll have a clear path to getting the restraining order
you want. But chances are you never hear from him again.
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And besides, you don't want a mutual restraining order that
beyond your record too. Hope he says, I never thought
about it like that. I guess everything worked out as
well as it could. Thank you for changing my perspective.
Comment to says, I am not a lawyer. I am
not your lawyer. I would submit that bigger consequences for
any more calls and letters should probably serve about as
well as a deterrent as a restraining order. A restraining
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order would still mean that you would need to alert
someone if you did contact you again. Obviously, and unfortunately,
a restraining order is not a magical bubble. What you
have is different from a restraining order and will likely
involve a different process if more happens. But it sounds
like he has a guarantee of serious consequence if he
contacts you again. Either way, perhaps that is worth some solace. Oh,
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he says. Everyone keeps telling me to calm down, and
I'm trying my best. You're right that the results are
pretty much the same either way. I just need to
deal with this paranoia for a while. Thank you for
your kind words. Comment Thri says, Unfortunately, our legal system
is usually a process. It's rarely one and done. You've
taken the first step and made his behavior known, and
now he's been warned by the judge. You also now
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know to document everything. If any more letters show up,
save them and alert the police immediately. Also ensure your
employer documents any calls from him and alerts the police
immediately if he does call. I'm guessing he'll stop, but
if he doesn't, you're now one step closer to him
facing real consequences. And Op says, thankfully, our school has
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great security, tons of cameras and an attentive soro. She
tells me often that they have my back. Plus she's
good friends with our towns detective. You have a town's
to detective.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Set of a city detective. Do those city detectives are
very like snobby?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Well, I feel like, yeah, you just got a small
town detective. He wears a little fedora and a coat,
and he goes around smoking a little bubble pipe.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Mmmm, bubble bar ash.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I think we've cut the criminal bubble bubble comment for
cameras can help provide proof he is physically following you.
Most folks are a lot less clever than they think
they are. Cameras for home. If you feel he might
be stalking you on foot, you can put a rear
facing go pro type on a backpack. Oh, pieces, cameras
are a must. I have them facing all parts of
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my property and with motion sensors they definitely give me
a little piece of mind. Mine are set to flash
bright lights if something activates the motion sensors. A few
years ago. It's spooked a guy trying to get into
my mother's car. When the lights came on, he took
off running. I recommend the ring system to anyone. And
that is the end of that story.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I'm just glad this one turned out pretty good. Yeah,
not what we wanted. We wanted the restraining order.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
But like you know, it can be so much worse.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
But we put the fear of the judicial system in
the judicial system. That worked out well. Yeah, my friend
is forcing me to learn the violin in one year
for her wedding. Why. I, twenty three female, have a
friend twenty two female from school who asked me to
be in her wedding over lunch today. I have known
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this girl for about two years and because we share
the same major, we are school friends. We partner up
in classes, do projects together, et cetera. But I don't
really know or hang out with her outside of this setting.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
You don't hang out with her.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Basically, schoolwork that's all they do.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
And to learn the violin, that's that's like. Imagine imagine
like some guy or some person in your class. Yeah,
and you're having like you're getting married and you reach
out to them and you're like, hey, I know you
know how we took like psych one O one together.
I need you to learn the violin immediately. Now start working.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Anyway, she asked me to be in her wedding, and
I assume she meant as a bride'smaid, but I was wrong.
By the way, this comes from Breeze Blocks. And if
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he continues. She said she had a dream of her
perfect wedding and it was so beautiful. She woke up crying,
wrote it all down and cried for hours because it
was just so beautiful and perfect. She even made some
sketches and said that this was a vision from God
from her wedding. She couldn't even explain the warmth and
ecstatic love to me because she didn't have the words,
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but that she would do anything to capture it perfectly.
I believe her.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
She's like, she's like sobbing. She's like, oh, p you
don't understand. I need a giant spider to be tap dancing, okay,
and I need you to come in. It's beautiful. It
was really beautiful. I need you to come in in
a clown suit.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
This isn't Harry Potter.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, that was. Yeah, that's the only thing I could.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
What are your dreams like so far?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I'm just thinking of a crazy dream that that she's
basing her wedding off of. Ah.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I see, it was a joke. It was a joke.
It was joke. I believe the vision from God. Yeah,
I do believe that he can bless people with uh
with through dreams. It just depends on if you know
tap dancing spiders are involved or not.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I had a dream that I was driving on the
highway and some guy motioned for me to pull roll
down my window and I was like no, So I
rolled down a little bit and then he sticks. He
goes to stick his hand and so I try to
roll it up, but his hand's blocking, so I roll
it down more. He like reaches warding yanks me out
of my car, and I woke up and then I
turned and like in my adult sleep like sleep state,
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thought I saw something like yelled, and then like went
under the covers for like five minutes, and then I
was like, wait, what's going on? And then I fully
woke up and was like, I'm fine, and that's a
vision from God or my wedding plans.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
We're your wedding plans. What about you, Carly? What's your
latest dream?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I have really weird dreams. My latest dream h included
dream Keon being a little witch boy.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Okay, I was mad at him.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I woke up and I was like, dream Keon, dream
Keon's in trouble.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Oh I thought you meant like he was a witch. No,
you mean like be born? Yeah, okay, gotcha?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Oh yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I was like he's been a little a hole. I
got you.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
You were in it too, though.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
You were lovely. Ah shus, thanks, You're not in my dreams.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Okay, girlways mean to me. She then likened herself to
an artist with divine inspiration and went on for about
twenty minutes about the details of her inspiration and how
beautiful and uniting this wedding would be that would change
lives and be so much more than a ceremony, and
that the execution was so perfect it would be more
of a visual statement, an artistic dedication to love that
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everyone will be living a part of Okay, I kind
of like this, in this beautiful, perfect wedding, I'm to
be at the front line of the aisle, playing the
violin as her guests arrive in a long white gown,
feathered and beaded and soft. Very romantic. I will know
it whenever I see it, I laughed and told her
I've never played the violin before. Ana such may have
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a hard time performing for her guests. She told me
that I had a year to learn it and that
this was extremely important to her.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
She's looking at you, and she says, I need you
to play the violin, and I need you to play
it like no one's ever played before.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I like how this is so beautiful to her. This
might work out. It may be more than just a wedding.
It might be like the best thing since sliced bread.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
You're about to be a famous violin player. Yeah, I
can only think of a cello players. Yoom. That's the
only one I had to You're about to be the
next yo yo ma. If you played the violin.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Wrong strings the next and Sophie muttered about to be
the next and Sophie mutter.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I looked at what I could of her beautiful wedding notes.
They seemed really intense, lots of stuff, fevershly circled or
written over and over like inspect what you expect repeatedly
and all in white, literally scribbled over other words, copied
into big paragraphs. The part she showed me of my
role just said my name, violent, soft, complex, beautiful and
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integrate concerto, lots of details, while the guests.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
It's just nonsense. Yeah, I can't. I can't even like
the guess the dreams white concerto crescendos like this threat
from a bad woman.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, I'm kind of leaning towards that now. I don't
know how to play the violin at all. I've literally
never touched one, probably don't even know what it looks like.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Do I hold it here like a guitar.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Shannon feverish and flitting from topic to topic, talking about
how maybe I can compose something. But she wanted it
to sound so intricate that no one would believe it
was just one person playing it. Beyond normal bride stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
So she wants you to not only play the violin
at her wedding, have.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Multiple layers of a violin plane, but also play the
violin in a way that no one's ever played a
violin before.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Just don't learn to play the violin. Yeah, and then
it'll sound like no one's ever heard before.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
So true.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Oh pee, I'm gonna teach you a little.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I'm gonna teach you another one.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, that's what you do. You go up to her
and you just say no, that's about it.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Or if you actually love this person, you say yes.
You dedicate every single free second.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Of your life violin, and then you become the next
Lindsay Sterling.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
When I told her, even if I did have a
year to learn how to play, it would be basic
at best, she slammed her hand on the table and said, stop,
my god, and she went right back to her cherry,
exciting talk about her divine wedding. She don't high off
this thing.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, I think she's actually having a mental breakdown.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I very gently tried to refuse and offer to find
a professional play for her. She just said, hm, no, no,
has to be you. I'm sure of it, and went
back to talking as if I had suggested wearing a
hat to the beach.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
This is a prophecy, now, oh.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
She then dropped a bomb. Besides, I already bought your violin,
and it was almost two thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Okay, op, genuinely, you gotta start learning how to play
the violin. She just bought you a two thousand dollars violin.
She's gonna give you a two thousand dollars violin, maybe
for free.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
What I don't know how to play. I told her
she was being insane, but she kept making no noises
or putting up her hands, saying enough. Eventually, she told
me the violin would be here in a few weeks
and that I needed to find someone who gives lessons
and learn. She said she believed in me.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Do it for the plot.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Learn. She told me that worst case scenario, I get
to learn a skill most people would love to learn,
and that if I do well, I give the violin.
It's a payment. I don't want a violin. I don't
want to play. Then she left, and here I am founded. Okay,
this is where I have problem.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I think you have to do it now, No, I
think so. Now we've swapped. Now, I really want you
to do it.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I was thinking there was going to be payment at
the other end of this. No, two thousand dollars violin
that's going to depreciate by the time over a year.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I think. I think, you tell her you how to
pay for my lessons, and then I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I think, lessons and time, free.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Violin, pay for my lessons and pay for my time
at the wedding, at the wedding, and then the violin.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
No, no, no, but pay for the lessons as you're learning it.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I said that, I said, I said, free violin, pay
for my lessons, and potentially pay for me to play
at your wedding, because now I'm a professional violin player.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Now I've learned how to professionally play.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
But I thought, like paying as you're learning kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I don't want to learn. Yeah, but see I want to.
I'm doing this for you.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
All right, all right, all right, all right, realistically, Angie,
I'm getting married September thirtieth next year. Yeah, no joke.
Actually I want you to be play the violin ten number.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
To play the violin.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, wait are you playing? Are you paying for the violin?
I'm paying you just ten thousand flat yes, to get
a violin lap Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
You can buy such a cheap violin and still do
the same, Like I don't need a two thousand dollars violin.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Can buy one thousand dollars I do, I mean would
I'm buying a one thousand dollars violin, and then I'm
spending you know, let's say like one fifty per lesson,
like for the best of the best. I'm getting so
good at the violin, I'm doing it. I totally. If
I was ope and the person said that she would
pay for lessons, I would do it.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
My thing with the needing payment for the wedding too,
is I can already tell how crazy this girl is
going to be about her wedding, and I need like
that kind of damages.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
We take a biology together and did lamps. I don't
know your favorite color. I don't even know where you
came from. I don't even know where.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Who are you getting married to?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yeah, because she also only gets to keep the violin
if the bride think she does well.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, I can't exactly cut ties and run. It is
summer now, but we have a together currently and three
classes together in the fall. I can only see her
getting crazier about this. She's always had a flare for
the dramatics, but she's never been this extreme before. I'm
not sure if this is just megabridezilla energy and she
will get over it, or if I should just pretend
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I don't know her, or if I should call a
looney bin to come pick her up, or just take
up the violin and hope whatever God of weddings visit
her grants meet magical powers.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I really hope that all these relevant commons say, do
it for.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
The plot, for the plot, do it down asaur train. Honestly,
she sounds like she's dealing with a mental illness. Yes,
this is typically the age that schizophrenia kicks in. She
likely doesn't know she has it, nor does anyone else
who loves her and can help her. If I were you,
I would approach her fiance, her family, and school mental health.
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She's not Bridezilla. She's a very sick woman in need
of help. You didn't ask to be in this position,
but you are. You need to get other people involved
in helping her.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Okay, Yeah, that's good advice. Alternate advice, we freaky Friday.
This you pretend like you're playing the violin, but you
get a professional violin.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Behind a curtain. Yes, someone pulls it down the curtain paint.
Pay no attention to that. Yeah, I got you two
violin players.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Obi says, I guess I can try and shoot him
a message to the fiance. God is my co pilot, says,
I think you should mention something to her fiance or family.
Sounds like it is potentially very serious. Not a temper
tantrum or demands. Something is very wrong, Obi says, Facebook
friends with her fiance. What do I even say? I'm
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sure she's told him about this dream of hers. I
mean she like immediately bought a two thousand dollars us.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah, she's definitely a little man.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Absolutely, I'll say all that.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
What Obi says, how are they affording the wedding? She's
not rich, I know. No fiance is in the army.
She's a student who works part time at the Mexican
chain restaurant on campus. I really don't care to learn
the violin, even if she wasn't expecting some kind of
a magic I don't think she is sane enough for
me to take her up on the offer. And two
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thousand dollars on a violin seems crazy for a beginner. Anyways, Okay,
now I'm like, we got shift gears here. She's not rich.
I thought she had some bank behind na.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
She doesn't have that. I mean, she's in like school,
doesn't have that money. Definitely get family members involved, any
mental health professional. This is is getting a little not good,
a lot of not good, or you learn the violin.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I was really hoping for her not to be going.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I really hope hoping that it'd be kind of a
Joan of Arc situation.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
That's what I thought at the beginning, but now, like
Jon of Arc, I was hoping for that. Nope. At
first it was kind of funny imagining the awkward swing
that would commence. Then it was horrifying. It was troubling
and really really sad. So did fonce a message on Facebook.
He has seen it, but he hasn't responded. I also
can't believe she spent so much money on a violin
on someone who can't even play even in a year's time.
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How the f can anyone play so well they'd fool
people into thinking multiple people were playing? Is that even possible?
And we have an update?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I want to hear the rest of the wedding personally.
If this is just one aspect of the wedding, what
else is happening here?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
What is a husband doing?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
How is he getting into it? Is he like you know?
Does he have a white horsetro? Is he like white horse?
Roses and doves are flying everywhere?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
He comes down in like a hot air balloon, continuing
the Wizard of Oz theme.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yep, what's up with you today?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I don't know, it's just your dream.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Sophia had a dream last night too.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, guys, you have to learn how to play the
obo in five years.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Update, it's Sam.
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Asians are still twenty three female and twenty two female,
and the link of the relationship is two years. I
sent him out a fine post to her fiance and
added after, I'm really worried because this seems pretty mentally unstable,
way beyond normal bride stuff. I got this reply on
Facebook from her not a fiance at around two pm today.
I didn't see it because she deleted me from her
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friends and it went to a different mailbox. Facebook is weird.
Thanks so much for trying to tell my husband I'm crazy.
Thank god he understands what it's like to love someone
and what planning a wedding is all about. Excuse me,
I have a dream that I'm passionate about. Trust me,
if you ever get a ring with that attitude, you
will understand too. But I doubt it. Nice try trying
(32:48):
to get in between us. But guess what, sweetie, nothing
can tear us apart, least of all you. Ha ha ha.
You are clearly jealous, and that makes me feel really
bad for you. I flipping it, dude, think.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
You're jealous of my perfect wedding.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Then about an hour ago, I got a message from
her fiance, a long message. The DODR is that she
went completely nuts on a floorist because she's gonna do
her entire wedding in Syria. Hysteria. How dare you? She
almost got arrested for making a scene in this store.
He also found out she spent her financial aid slash
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student loan money for the second half of the summer
and the fall on random wedding stuff, including my violin,
and has been booking venue tours and tasting with ridiculously
expensive prices anyone is familiar with Texas. She is looking
at doing her wedding in a giant castle in the
ritzy Lake Travis area of Austin, near the huge, multi
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million dollar mansions. But where is this?
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Oh boy, you don't have that money, girl.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
He told her about the need for a budget and
being realistic. She threw an epic fit. At this point,
she left and went to her sister's house. Message it back,
saying that she may beat pipolar and in the manick state,
and suggesting asking her sister to maybe get her to
a doctor. He was more upset and focused on being
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hurt at what she had said to him about the
wedding than her. She also threw a tantrum and accused
us of sleeping together.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Oh yeah, this is not this is not normal. Definitely
something is going on.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
This isn't fun anymore.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
I just wanted a violin.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Sorry, I wanted a fiddle to be played.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I just wanted this to be a happier version of
your lie in April.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I told him that, needless to say, I would not
be playing the violin in their wedding, and I was
sorry for any trouble. But I really did think it
was best he seeks some mental help for her. He said,
you made your point. You don't need to rub it in.
I can take care of my family.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Well, he's a little nasty too, you made.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I told him I understood and wish them the best
and that I guess that's it. I didn' see her
in class today and looks like she won't be coming
back for fall unless she has a plan to get
more money.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Oof.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Thank you for the help everyone, I really did appreciate
having a few hundred friends in this Commerce says we
demand the long message from the fiance please, Ope says no.
Something feels kind of sleazy about doing that. I did
the update, but there's a difference to me between telling
people the outcome of something that happened to me and
copying out a message about someone I don't know. It
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seems shady and there's some details in it. I'm sure
he would be embarrassed to have out there. She made
a scene and spent all of her money ere march
for school. Use your imagination for the rest. Oh man,
we got one more comment here, honestly, hope he doesn't
even reply. So, yeah, I think this woman needs some help.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yep, but that was a good one.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I feel unwelcome at my friends Quinsaneta, so I'm not
going Well that settles that. And this comes directly from
the r slash Okay story Time Separate. So for context,
I'm gender fluid and eighteen years old. I'll name the
birthday girl Rose. I met Rose in the hospital as
a newborn. My dad actually became friends with Rose's dad
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before I was even born, I believe sometime in the nineties.
I love Rose as a sister and always wanted to
be your friend. By the way, this comes from Sleepy Sheeps.
And if you want to submit your own stories, go
to the r slash Okay Storytime Separated. Then we're here
to give good advice. Goofy. But we don't have all
the answers. We only know what we'd do, so let
us know what you would do in the comments, and
op says. She of course, like most young children, was
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super shy from the moment she started walking and talking.
Over time, as her dad spent more time at my house,
she got closer to me. We became best friends, and
she even admitted years ago that I'm like an older
sister to her. We had lots of sleepovers throughout the years,
and on days her parents wouldn't be home, she stayed
with me. She was my next door neighbor. Because our
families loved being around each other so much, they had
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to live next door. We were even starting to think
about tearing down our fat so we could see each
other every day. With that bit of context, let's go
back to Rose. Rose was kind of a brat, but,
learning from friends with younger siblings, children can be brats.
She was rude and made discriminatory comments a few times,
which I had to teach her were wrong, and she
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was selfish.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Hey, just wanted to inform you that it's never too
late to be a brat.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
You should be a brat at any age. That's true.
Me and Rose were in the same boat, though we
both had one sibling and older brother so old that
by the time we hit the age where we could
finally start having fun, they were both off to college.
I knew since I didn't have an older sister role model,
it was my job to be her big sister role model.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Oh maybe like together I got you. Yeah, I was
about to say, like, I feel like the years of
like zero to seven are probably like the most fun
years of your life. Because it was a comment about
like once we were old enough to start having fun.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah, I feel like you have a lot of fun seven.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I misconstrued that.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
I knew this in my heart, so I was that
also parents and her parents told me to be a
good role model for her and always look out for her.
This led me down a path of always prioritizing her
and doing what she wanted me to do. I didn't
like it, but I didn't want to hurt her feelings
since she's younger than me. Fast forward to twenty twenty one.
I moved out of my home to a bigger house
that kind of suck. I knew our friendship would be different,
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but if I kept putting time and effort into our relationship,
our friendship would never end right wrong. I moved about
a five minute golf cart drive away from her, a
thirty minute walk uphill, one minute drive by car. We
live in a community where most people have golf carts.
She has a golf cart that she can drive. We
have options for how to get to my house. It's
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a thirty minute walk and a one minute drive. It's
like a crazy hill that must be a crazy hill. Sorry,
I just remember, I just like registered that.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Or you are not good with hills? Were our two options?
Hills are your natural nemesis.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Or that is the hill that is Yeah, that's Sissyphis's hill. Cissficient,
siss sissisficient hill. That hill's got Sissyphis. Yeah, get it
checked out. She could either walk or drive. Is her
walk shorter? Well, it's downhill? Is it like a five
second walk downhill? She flew.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
She is the rock.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
She just brings a little like sled.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
She does backhand springs down the whole hill.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Her dad is over at my house almost every weekend.
She's welcomed whenever she wants. Whitney Anderson says, bet it's
a thirty second fall. I was fourteen years old, trying
to make our friendship last. Since I've known this girl
since before she was born. Well, you've only known her
since she was born, because you can't know someone before
they were born. I knew them when they were still
a star child. Matter of fact, there are photos and
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videos of me holding her as a toddler. I'm one
of her oldest friends in life. Yet I had to
put all the effort into our friendship Eventually I got
tired of planning things because if I didn't plan things
with her, it just wouldn't happen. We rarely speak when
we do see each other. She only speaks to me
if I'm a last option. If her cousins are around,
she won't talk to me unless I can benefit them
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in some way, shape or form.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Yeah, So what is his reading as is just like, uh,
a relationship that has changed as your cousin grew up,
and like you guys are striking your own sense of
self a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, And that's say I feel like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Like sometimes when you're like a little kid and you're
falling around your big cousin and you idolize them and
it's great, And then you get older and you're like,
I want to hang around my you know, people my
own age. And then maybe you a couple of years
later come back around you're like, I want to hang
out with my cousin again because we're at the same level.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Now, Say, what's your like an adolescent to the end
of being a teenager, and then even early adulthood, it's
like it's easy to just like be focused on yeah,
things that don't matter at all, and he realized, Oh,
I didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
I just like my cousin. I want to hang out
with my cousin.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
I finally realized I was always a last resort. When
I told them how I felt, I just got a
simple okay or sorry you felt that way. I realized
I deserve better, and if my own friends don't care
to see me, well I don't need them anyways. Are
they the same age? Sure, the op's three years older.
We went no contact, and the last time I saw
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Rose she was quite rude toward me. She repeatedly hit
me in the face with her sweater and even clipped
me with the zipper, which really hurt. I had to
sit next to her in a car because my mom
and I were running late for the airport and my
dad took the only working car that day. His car
was at our repair shop, so we borrowed my mom's car.
Fast forward to today. Sometime in August, we received an
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invite for roses Keithsinnetta. I don't really want to go.
When we were younger, me and Rose planned her Kitsignetta together,
including the dress. She promised me that she would take
me dress shopping with her and the family to pick
out the dress due to how our friendship turned out.
Of course, I didn't go dress shopping. I didn't even
know she had picked out a dress already. She promised
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me for years when we were younger, that we would
do a dance together and then I would do her
traditional dance with her cousins, which if you can't tell,
I won't be doing on her invites. I found out
she took photos with our shared friend Millie. Personally, I
just don't want to go to our Kinsinetta. I got
a courtesy invite because my parents are invited. I'm not
really wanted there. I'll be left on my own with
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my parents, who will end up doing their own thing.
I'll have no friends at the event, and honestly, Rose
wouldn't care if I showed up or didn't show up.
I would rather spend time with my friends who would
actually care about my presence. So there is a little
bit left to the story. But do you have any
final thoughts for our Okay, listener.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
I kind of agree that Rose wouldn't care, but it's
really just up to you.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Is your call. I guess you want to go or not,
but your cousin I don't.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Are they cousins. Weren't they.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
I thought they were their cousins.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Okay, cool, I don't think it specified three years older,
but OPI is older.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Well if the keys and her is happening, that she's
steen I, Op's eighteen.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah, Op's eighteen. I don't think they're cousins. She was
my next door neighbor. I think I think they were
just family friends. Parents are best friends. Yeah, it's like,
it's that kind of cousin.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
They are looking like their cousins. You like they're saying cousin,
but they're not.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Don't they're Actually. I think, especially at that age, you
get some this kind of attitude and I think you know,
just know that right now, if you're not close, that's okay.
Sometimes friendships fade, they change, it's it's you know, they're
they're never going to be solid forever, and sometimes they
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come back around. I said this yesterday, but I think
friendships kind of do like a this. Sometimes they just
do this, Sometimes they do this. There's a lot of
different ways that friendships occur, and sometimes they do this. Whoa,
And that's a messy friendship. But we've got a little
bit left to this story. I don't want to be
a drama queen, just be sad and alone at the Kingsannetta. Honestly,
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if I disappeared, Rose probably wouldn't care and would say, oh,
that's the sad then move on. Also, knowing Rose, if
she wanted to be there, she would say it in
person or call me to see if I could make it.
She has an reached out to me, and personally, I
don't care. I just want to move on with my life.
I know my parents will be upset that I won't come,
but just for my mental health and well being, it
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would be better if I don't go to the King Signetta.
I'm probably just got to plan something around that timeframe. Anyway,
I have plenty of time to plan since the King
Signetta is in December twenty twenty five and we're in
September twenty twenty five. So Reddit, am I the ale
for not going to the King Sennetta? No, you're not
the ale. Just guys. You guys aren't close anymore. And
that's okay. Sad, but it's okay. Yeah, But that's the
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end of that story, folks. And we've got some comments.
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this was such an a hole in that story.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Comment one by Lemonade playback nineteen eighty five. Dude, it
should be Opie's responsibility to let the gen know because
one the friend is a cheater, and two what if
they Cindy or friend passed on an STI STD red
flags for all the roommates except Omar.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Yes, Omar was a Omar excuse, But yeah, I remember,
I remember Omar was af the shout out Omar.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
I don't remember this story.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
Comment to by individual girl. I was in a relationship
and he was cheating. We had a mutual friend and
she knew because she knew the girl, she didn't tell
me or the other girl because she felt it wasn't
her place. We are no longer friends.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
I uh, this was a messy situation. So messy A.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
Commenter by it's a me malio. How crazy would it
be that it turns out Cindy hasn't shown up to
classes and has been trying to reach out to Matt
because she's pregnant.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Oh my goodness that story. Would he get even crazier
than I already? Was a surprise?
Speaker 4 (46:36):
Pregnancy would always make something a little crazier, now, wouldn't it?
Speaker 3 (46:39):
And last comment by Isabella Kitchen six' eighty just saying
Omar didn't create drama, Matt did by putting them in
this situation to begin with, and being a cheating a hoole.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Exactly exactly everyone's Oh Omar is gonna.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Get Jama, No free Omar.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
But that's the end of those comments, folks, the end
of this episode, So if you love us, make sure
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