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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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My friend became financially reliant on me, and so I
cut him off. Cut him off. So I thirty mail
met my best friend thirty one mail when we were
both in a summer care program as kids ages eight
and nine. All We'll call him Kevin. We bonded through
mutual interests cartoons, video games, et ceta, and became thick
as thieves over the years. When his father passed away

(00:31):
a few years later, oh, I made sure to check
on him multiple times a day for weeks because I
knew he was devastated. I considered him to be like
a brother to me. By the way, this comes from
a he Festus seventeen seventeen on the r slash Okay Storytimes.
I wrote it so fast forward the end of high
school and Kevin is struggling to find a career path
to pursue while everyone else is preparing to leave for
college or finalizing plans for trade school and military service.

(00:53):
By the time I'm in college, he finally has a
part time job at a local mechanics and is still
living with his mother. I know that living with your
parents nothing to be ashamed of. I lived with mine
all through college as a commuter student, But it seemed
that Kevin wasn't frying. I'd seen Kevin his mom fighting
over this very issue, like about moving out of the house.
When I started dating my girlfriend in college, contact between

(01:13):
me and Kevin began to dissipate, due in part to
a combination of my increased school schedule, work schedule, and
dating life. Part of losing touch was also due to
his asking multiple questions about my girlfriend and our relationship
that were pretty intrusive and borderline and appropriates not cool, Kevin,
not cool, Kevin's being a little basement dweller Kevin. Well.

(01:37):
Fast forward another couple of years and I proposed to
my girlfriend and she graciously agrees to be my fiancee. Congrats,
so cute. We love love, We love love. I immediately
went to ask Kevin if he would be the best man,
under the oppression that we were still close friends even
without that much communication. He agreed, but despite saying that

(01:58):
he would be honored, everything about the man's body language
and communication skills indicated the exact opposite, almost like it
was a punishment. Kevin's like, I, uh, I'm not into
this thing. I want to go.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Oh, Kevin doesn't want to be best man.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Kevin saying he wants to be best man, but he
did not act and like it. He wants to be
best man. Yeah, he's being an okay man at the
very best, not a best man at the very okay.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Well, then take that as a sign and don't have
him be best man.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, well easy.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I let it go because I just assumed there was
something else going on that I was in privy too.
Fast forward again a little over a year. I'm out
eating dinner and discussing wedding plans with my fiance and
future mother in law, And right as the food comes out,
I get a call from Kevin, and actually I step
outside to take a call. Kevin. Can't wait, now, Kevin,
i'd started dating this girl. Will call Karen. Roughly three
months before I get the call, Kevin proceeds to tell

(02:46):
me that he and Karen had literally just gotten married.
WHOA what, Kevin, Who's fast?

Speaker 3 (02:51):
You just found out about this girl?

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Gain?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
They call him quick Kevin, Well, I'm not necessarily oppose
the notion of fast moving relationships. Going for single and
married and roughly one hundred days is hasty, I think so,
especially when he's never been in a relationship. For this,
screamed that he just wanted to be in a relationship,
and was all but confirmed when he said that the
reason they got married was because he was tired of
his mom talking trash about Karen, which naturally escalated after

(03:16):
they got married. So basically he's like, I'm going to
show you mom. Yeah, I'm going to show you how
much I love Kareny marry marriage. A couple of weeks later,
I went to Kevin's apartment for some forgotten reason and
it was able to meet Karen. This proved to be
a very unpleasant interaction, as Karen's first topic of conversation
around someone she's never met was to trauma dump her
previous relationships and describing in vivid detail, while these former

(03:39):
partners should be incarcerated too much, Karen is Karen, Karen
is Karen's trauma dumped.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
In immediately, there are spaces in which.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Kevin then would try to not so subtly imply how
great their marriage is by verbally illustrating their clears throat
alone time together.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
Karen and Kevin need to learn about boundaries, learn when
you when you should tell people things, and when you
should not tell me.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, this is a weird combo. I think your friend's
a little weird, Opie.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Why do you want him to be your best man?
You know, you've gotta have other friends.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
You gotta have other friends. When she finally met my fiance,
the first instinct Karen had was to immediately dump all
her trauma as bluntly as possible, stupid after we left,
my fiance and I agree that Karen was coming off
as incredibly immature and a bit of an attention seeker
A little bit much, A little bit much. Karen, my
fiance immediately disliked her bits I, being denser than the granite,

(04:30):
wasn't willing to acknowledge any kind of disliked for her
just yet, because Opie's just trying to, I don't know,
smooth things over, you know. Yeah, he's trying to be Uh,
he's trying to be present as much as present as
he can be.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
Well, I just think that Kevin and Karen are they
keep put pushing these boundaries, especially with like now talking
to Opie's wife about all of that, or sorry, Ope's.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Fiance about this, Yeah, I don't telling you.

Speaker 6 (04:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
I think like sometimes people like I think, there are
sometimes when you meet a new friend where you just
start telling like it just happened, where you feel comfortable
and you start talking about like.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, trauma per se. But sometimes you're like in it.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Like I've had these situations where like sometimes you're just
like having a conversation.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
And then they're like and then this happened when I
was a child.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
And like, oh, I don't know, we were We're that close,
we were doing.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
That, and it just makes you you gotta be careful
about who and when and how you were talking about
things that are especially just like things where you know
that might be triggering to people.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
It's like putting a trigger warning. Well, but for a conversation.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
My fiance immediately disliked her bit to being denser. Granted
I wasn't willing acknowledge any kind of dislike for her
just yet. Fast forward once again, the day before my wedding,
as we're all getting everything ready, we invited the entire
wedding party as well, as some close family to come
and help. Said. Of the bridal party, only my fiances
made of honor was able to come. As the matron
of honor. I had volunteered to bake our wedding cake,

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as well as an ever busy mother of three and
her other bridesmaids. My sister had class until late in
the day of my groom's been one was able to
get off work for both the wedding day and the
day before or all the other will calm Jack just
showed up before most our families to get started. Kevin,
on the other hand, refuse to make the thirty minute
drive because of a rain thirty minutes, thirty minutes.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
It's probably thirty minutes because.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, a few weeks later he let it slip that
he was just lounging around all day.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Dude, I think we've it's proven.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
We've proven, you know, day one that Kevin is not
best man material.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
We just got to move on.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
I feel like, op I feel like Kevin is the
oldest friend, but not necessarily best friend. The thing is
that I feel like we're trying always coincide.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
We're trying to use a fork for a suit, you know.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
And Kevin, is that fork?

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, Kevin's the four. Your wedding is the suit.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
And your wedding, Yeah, exactly. I've never heard that before,
and I love you.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
I just came up with that right now. Great, it
might be an already established one, but.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well, once they got there, things only got more stressful.
Kevin and Garen showed up about thirty minutes late for
the rehearsal and immediately started trying to make changes. The
biggest argument was over the exiting procession. The original procession
order was for each groomsman to escored the corresponding bridesmaid
out of the church's sanctuary down the central aisle. Kevin

(07:05):
refused to escort the matron of honor out because, according
to him, it would look like they were in a
couple instead of him and Karen. Kevin, do you understand
how weddings work? Groom's man and bridal party person, matron
of honor and best man, they walk down the aisle together.
No one thinks that they're smooching. Kevin Kevin, except maybe

(07:25):
some five year olds, which you sound like right now.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, I sound like a five year old Kevin. But also,
p how much more proof do you need?

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, this guy is not great.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
You're letting h like, I feel less bad for you
if you keep getting.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, keep proof, keep putting your yeah, just just get
the spoon.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
You're stabbing at the bowl.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
And it's not like, oh, why can't I het any
of this soup? And this is good soup. They both
tried to push Kevin to walk off the stage alone
and rechieve Karen from the front row and escort his
wife out of the sanctuary. And in case it wasn't
abundantly clear Karen was not a member of the bridal party.
At least he made one good decision so far. After
standing in the this was not going to be a
viable option. Kevin refused to participate. We finally settled on

(08:05):
a single file procession order, where it was one groomsman
followed by one bridesmaid, and repeated until the entire wedding
party had made their exit. This argument and the ensuing
frustration prompted my fiance to tell the photographer we hired
make sure Kevin wasn't in any pictures, even in the background.
Kevin only got a pass because he was still my
best man. It also pissed me off that the two

(08:25):
of them started packing up all the leftover catering from
the rehearsal dinner and took it home without so much
as asking.

Speaker 6 (08:31):
Wait, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
They showed up with freaking like containers, yeah, tupperware, and
they're like, yeah, we're gonna take this. I wish not,
want not.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
We don't believe in wasting food, so we're gonna take
it before.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
You haven't have a gene.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
This is nuts nuts, oh my. And and also people
have no social cue. They changed the whole wedding procession
of the rehearsal because Kevin's being a weirdo.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
Freaking weirdo, the freaking just like go like presumably, hope,
I don't know, maybe not, but like I'm presuming that
you have multiple grooms men, just Kevin's back line, yeah,
you know.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Back of the line. Well, the next morning, Kevin and
Karen ran laid again. They once again tried to push
for their procession order, which we immediately denied. My fiance
told her bridesmaids and family that Karen was not allowed
in the room and that she could go wait in
the sanctuary. Karen didn't want to wait there because she
felt she was being rejected and purposely separated from her husband.
Her words probably to go smooch the matron of her

(09:31):
terrible well as an overly generous compromise to avoid starting
unnecessary drama, be loud her to stay in the grooms
men's room to be near Kevin. The worst part was
when it came time to get ready for the ceremony,
she refused to step outside while we changed. She was
just she wanted to see everyone getting out of their blouse.
I know, believe me, I know I was a recovering
people pleaser. I'll admit that back then I had virtually

(09:53):
no backbound. Today I wouldn't hesitate her and Kevin from
the wedding entirely. However, I was too afraid of derailing
the web and upsetting my already stressed out fiance. So
she stood in the corner and covered her eyes as
we all changed and got dressed. I have since apologized
profusely to the other two groomsmen. They were graciously understanding
of my position. So she's just watching through her eyes

(10:15):
while all these guys are changing. This is wild, ah, man,
I feel like Kevin needs I'm just I'm I'm wondering
why we've had so much Kevin, so much Kevin, and
so much leniency for Kevin. Too much, too much Kevin lenience.
I think we need, uh, we need the Kevin Inquisition

(10:37):
and peach Kevin well. We also had a no phone
policy that was clearly posted at the door. Despite this,
Karen had her phone out the entire time, taking pictures
and scrolling through social media.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Oh a pictures, you guys dress it.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Kevin starts to message me about his mom. He says
she was starting to them and even ran up to
Kevin's job and causing a scene, resulting in him losing
his jaw. Oh lord, Karen made Kevin lose the job.
Is toxic. She's terrible. It is important to keep in
mind that Kevin would leave work repeatedly with little to
know notice to go home to be with Karen whatever

(11:13):
she called, even in one instance when she said she
just missed him. My advice was for Kevin to tell
his mom that he chose to marry Karen and tell
her that if she can't respect that, you should either
keep it to herself or he would go no contact.
I also advised him that he is scheduled to work.
He's a stay at work unless it is his emergency,
and Kevin elected to avoid and ignore it. My god,

(11:33):
what what?

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Kevin ignored your advice again?

Speaker 2 (11:36):
I'm like, why are we keeping this guy? We shocked,
We're not shocked. We're not shocked. Kevin, Kevin is is
repeatedly terrible.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Kevin just keeps Kevin.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
But so let's keep going. The Kevin lord does not stop.
Kevin executed to ignore my advice. As the years progressed,
Kevin and I grow more distant. Thank God, during this
stanle we boll star our fair share of job changes. However, well,
my jobs progressively saw improvement and motion. Kevin would call
me every few months or so to tell me that
he either quit or was fired from another job because
of either family drama, chronic absenteeism, or because he felt

(12:09):
like his supervisors were had to get him. Oh to this,
I would repeat the advice I had given him before,
again and again and again. During all this, Karen never worked,
so Kevin was the sole income for them with whatever
he had earned, and adding insult to entry, Kevin barely
did anything to help around the apartment, even after she
had given birth to their daughter. Have a kid, Why
do you have a kid with two people that can't

(12:30):
do nothing. Why are two children having kids? Yeah, I
mean they are babies. They're babies, babies, little babies that
can't do crap. Again, Like, do you I feel like
Kevin is overstayed as welcome in your life?

Speaker 7 (12:44):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (12:44):
I mean, like, what what does Kevin offer to you? Kevin?

Speaker 2 (12:50):
He offers pain? You were Reddit story? Yeah? Okay, and
you know what that's that's worth more than gold. Well.
Eventually the three of them had to move out because
they couldn't afford it. Eventually, Karen's grandparents paid for a
condo for them in exchange for rent, and by this
time my wife and I had bought our house and
it had been living in it for some time. Meanwhile,
the cycle of Kevin needing advice on dealing with his

(13:13):
mom and family drama continued. His unstable employment status also
proved to be rocky as ever, and when the pandemic hit,
my wife was furloughed and my hours were reduced from
forty a week to eight. Someoney was tight well. The
situation with our jobs only lasted for about a month
or so. The sudden drop off of income was enough
to set us back and really forced us to stretch
the value of a dollar, which Kevin would know nothing of,

(13:35):
because Kevin is Kevin. Kevin would continue to call me
asking for the same scriptive advice, and even started asking
to borrow money to help get by once he was
once again employed again. Karen is the soul out of Kevin.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
And Kevin and the soul out of me.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
That is true. Dementor dem demor, not the good kind,
not the good kuinde, it is the dementor kind. Yeah,
and I don't appreciate it, No, we do not. Kevin. Well,
I would give some help when and where we could
squeeze it, but whenever I would tell him no, he
would attempt to guilt me by saying things like friends

(14:09):
have each other's back. Where Ope, he's had your back
so long. You've been desperate a long time. You're too desperate, man,
You've been desperate basically since you were like twelve. Yeah. Well,
by the end of summer of twenty twenty one, I
had been working a pretty tough job in and out
of hospitals. Without going into too much detail, this job
really took a toll and left a permanent mark on me.
At my lowest point during this season, Kevin called me

(14:29):
while I was working, told me that he really needed
someone to talk. He once again told me he was
having trouble with his mom and Karen low on sleep, caffeine,
mental stability. I napped. Finally, Opie, bone has grown? Well,
what's that?

Speaker 5 (14:43):
What's a what's a liquid with a high bone growing juice?

Speaker 2 (14:48):
It's not pumpkin juice. It doesn't taste good, but it's
necessary to grow your bone's back. After Professor Gilderoy Lockhard
cast as little Gilderoy Guilderoy a lock card, cast his
little little bone dissolving spell on you, I galled at him,
telling him that I had told him the same advice

(15:09):
again and again, and he refused to take my advice seriously.
I hung up and fought here from the stress as
I went to my next servicing call. After that, things
went silent between us, and I left that job a
couple of months later. Fast forward to Midsummer twenty twenty three,
and I had been working a job as a manager
at a fast food restaurant for a couple of years.
On this night, it was an hour before closing. Closing
time was midnight, and it was just me and the
cook When Kevin and a pregnant Karen pulled up to

(15:32):
order some food. Karen's pregnant again. They ordered a couple
of the more expensive items on the menu and pay
with cash. Kevin also tries to tell me more family
drama with his mom and grandparents. He also tries to
talk about speeding ticket he had gone receiving messages about
paying it despite believing he had it paid. But I
cut the conversation work as I needed to finish pre
closed duties. About forty five minutes later, Kevin message asking

(15:56):
me to bring them some more food and he paid
me back for it later. Kevin doesn't pay things back
that Kevin is the least reliable man in the known universe.
Well now, our POS system had earlier gone through some
technical issues and was unable to run credit and debit
card transactions until an overnight reset, so we had to
run cash only all night as they had no cash

(16:16):
on me to pay for the food. I told him
that I wasn't going to be able to make it happen.
He immediately responds with a freaking paragraph about how Karen
desperately needs food, our pregnancy is high risk, that he
would do whatever he had to do to provide for
his wife.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
I'm sorry, why were they spending all that money on
that expense food restaurant?

Speaker 7 (16:32):
Then?

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, and if you're willing to do whatever it takes,
maybe hold a job, yeah, and attend it.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Maybe get a freaking job.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Maybe get a freaking job and actually actually state that job.
Man has been more absent than the space between fork prongs.
I was trying to trying to scoop stoop up. I'm
gonna twist the knife on this metaphor that he would
do whatever he had to do to pride for his wife,
and that I was a horrible friend by refusing to

(16:59):
bring our food. Oh lord, I doubled down. I informed
Kevin that upper management had been down, avoided tickets, registered shortages,
and food waste based mostly in micromanaging, that this would
put me in a compromising position with my bosses. He
simply responded with, just dot idem was freaking. Uh, you're
asking too much.

Speaker 5 (17:17):
Remy, Remy being like lyn Beini, he you could have
food inventing all his friends.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
All his friends, all the little friends. Fault this his brother.
That's true, that's true, he only invented his brother. But
the point was he went against code. He was trusted
and you know he was going to steal a little bit,
and he got caught because he tried to steal a
lot from there. Things were silent for about six months,
but by the end of the year Kevin had introduced
me to my breakpoint. In follow twenty twenty three, I'd

(17:44):
accepted a job offer in the public sector that I
was overjoyed to receive. Will be relevant. Shortly while at work,
early in the morning, about a week before Christmas, I
get a message from Kevin asking for money and telling
me that his wife and his children, including his four
month old some are homeless and have been for a
few days. I messaged him that I will call him
that evening. When I call Kevin, he answers, and the
only word I can get out of my mouth is explain. Explain, blash,

(18:10):
please explain. He tells me that they had been living
with Karen's grandparents for a few months after getticked out
of the condo for not paying their fair share of rents.
What Kevin had to sit down with Karen's grandfather about
needing to uphold his responsibilities, especially while living under someone's roof.
At some point Karen, who was evedropping from the other room,
interjects and begins a screaming match with her grandfather. During

(18:33):
the course of the shouting match, Kevin told me that
Karen had threatened to remove from this plane herself, which
prompted her grandfather to call the police. Oh so she's threatening.
I'm alive right now, but most definitely. Maybe maybe I'm
speaking too soon, but it seems like it's an attention
move based on what we know about Karen, and when

(18:54):
the police arrived, they had determined that Karen had no
intention of falling through on her threats and proceeded to
run everyone's information. When alert for an open warrant came
through on Kevin. Has Kevin been stealing Evin? Remember that
speeding ticket from earlier? Weill Kevin never bothered to confirm
with the police that the payment had been received, resulting
in a desk appearance that he never showed up for
and led to a warrant for his arrest. He was

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also charged with driving on a suspended license. Kevin was
taken away in cuffs and spent hours in the county
jail before Karen was able to get the money from
her mom to bail him out. When they got back
to Karen's grandparents' house, her grandfather told Kevin he was
no longer welcome and he should leave immediately. I mean,
like feeding ticket to warrant to Karen yelling to the

(19:36):
point where the cops show up because she's like threatening
her own life. I mean, this man, this Kevin and
Karen are nothing but bad news.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Yeah, like literally you cannot help them, block them.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
They only want to use you. Being in a really
bad situation. My wife and I tried brainstorming ideas to
help you are too nice. I mean a couple of calls,
was able to set up an interview at a different
branch with my previous employer. All Kevin had to do
was apply online. But do we think Kevin's going to
do that? No, we later found out he'd never even
attempted to apply. Kevin, my wife had also won a

(20:10):
competition at work that rewarded her with the five hundred
dollars gift card that she volunteered to give to them.
He had already used a little bit of it. We
also had some toys and stuffed animals that we pulled
together to give their kids for Christmas. However, I couldn't
help but feel this not my stomach about it. I
called Jack to see if I really was being a
bad friend by withholding help. Apparently I was not the
only one Kevin was asking for money from. I invited

(20:31):
Jack over dinner that weekend and I made reverse seared
rabbised potatoes, gartan and saute asparagus spears. Not relevant, just
proud about it. Turned out, it's very relevant. I want
some of that. I'm hungry.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
I am hungry.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
I found out that Kevin had been continually asking more
money from multiple people over the previous several years. I
also realized he had been making us all feel like
we were being selfish but for holding any assistance back, even
if we were in dire straight ourselves. And Jack, for
his part, was infuriated by the revelation that Kevin had
been doing this to other people and felt it was

(21:06):
time for a change.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Did you change your number?

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Losing block them.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
We both agreed that next time Kevin reached out for help,
we would meet up and confront him about everything that
has happened. We're doing a little intervention. A little over
a week after that night, Kevin once again messaged I
was out with my wife for a nice Sunday brunch.
When I got Kevin's message, he said that they had
run out of money to stay at their hotel and
that they were desperate in trying everything to avoid sleeping
in their car in the middle of a bitter winter cold.

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Step felt nauseous at the thought of leading them with
nowhere to go, but Jack and I both agreed the
cycle needed to end. I met Jack at my house
and we messaged Kevin to meet us at the Square,
the nearby mall. Jack and I met Kevin at an
empty table and told him everything. We said we were
done enabling him and that we were tired of being
taken advantage up. I love that they finally said something

(21:53):
taken away too long? It's taken way too long.

Speaker 7 (21:56):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
We said we were done enabling him and that we
were tired of being taken advantage up. Kevin had the
gall tell me that we didn't understand what it was
like to struggle. At that point, Jack became so frustrated
that he quickly stood up, told him I'm done and
stormed back to the car.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
I'm struggling to find a reason why there's still friends.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
I stayed and told Kevin that just because Jack and
I weren't in the same position that he was, it
didn't mean we didn't know what it was like struggle.
I also told him that he stopped being a friend
to us when he started expecting money from us whenever
he got into trouble. I told him that it was
insulting to expect financial help when he would just turn
his nose up at jobs. We paved the way for
him to get ignore any and all advice we offered.

(22:33):
He's defeated thousand yards there. Told me that he knew
that we were right and that it was all over.
I realized there was nothing else to be said. He
got the message. I stood up, took the one hundred
dollars in collective Christmas money I had been hoarding for
the last few weeks, gave it to him and said,
don't waste it this time, and don't ever contact me again.
The hope he's putting the foot down and going so long.

(22:54):
It took so I mean, I feel like we could.
We should have gone low contact way earlier. We should
have done the lock phone screen method. Yeah, increasing spurts
of no contact, yeah, low contactness. Well yeah, but finally
op this, this is what you should have done earlier
before walking away without looking back. Jack, My wife and
I went and grabbed some dinner later to decompress, and
Jack and I went back to his place to talk

(23:15):
it out because we both knew we were torn up
about it. By the way, you should never be torn
up about not having enough episodes of this podcast, because
you could join us on YouTube and Facebook every weekday
at three pm PST. And we're probably live right now,
so tap our profile. It was irrelevant updates and I'm
going to go straight into it. For nine months since
we cut contact, and Jack and I still find ourselves
questioning whether or not it was the right thing to do,

(23:37):
or if we could have handled it better. My wife
keeps reassuring me that this was long overdue. I still
can't help but feel this turmoil or the whole thing.
I know he was my best friend for nearly two decades,
but I can't stand the thought of being taken advantage
of it anymore. Still, I wonder if we were too
harsh for leaving him and his family in a state
of homelessness with nowhere to go again. You gave him
so much and at a certain point someone just has

(24:01):
to like help themselves.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
I mean, yeah, you've given them a lot of fish,
and he's got to learn.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
He's got to figure out how to do.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
He's got to learn to fish for himself. You know,
you've got them to Somebody say, too many fish, too
many fish.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
My friend is guilt tripping us because we prefer a
child free vacation.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
I mean, sometimes traveling with the little ones is fun.
My parents traveled all over Europe with me in their
back pocket.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
My thirty female friends, Sarah, also a thirty female, is
a single mom with two kids. She's been going through
a rough time after separating with her husband last year,
and I've done my best to be there for her.
My other close friend, Lina and I have always accommodated
Sarah's situation, visiting her at her house so she wouldn't
have to go out, planning outings around her kids needs,
and being as flexible as possible. Recently, Lina and I

(24:46):
decided to go on vacation together, just the two of us,
and when Sarah found out, she got very upset and
told us that she had expected us to include her
and her kids since we are her closest friends and
she doesn't have many people travel and her kids.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
That's a little that's a little hard. I mean that
limits what you can do a lot, Opie says.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
She also said that because she's in a difficult situation,
she thought this was something that we could do for
her as her friends.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
For her, Oh that sounds like, hey, for her that is,
and pay for her. Oh that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Well no, Lyne and I explained that while we love
her and her kids, a vacation with them would be
completely different from what we have in mind. Yeah, yeah,
not great. We also offered to take a shorter trip
with her and the kids, like a long weekend, but
she dismissed that because she wanted a full week at
the beach. She then said that she would have let
me join if the roles were reversed. But to me,

(25:39):
that's not a fair comparison. If I were tagging along
on a vacation with her family, I'd be adapting to
their plans, whereas if she came with us, we would
have to plan the whole trip around her.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, you're gonna go to like Disney or something and
see Mickey Mouse and that's the only thing, or I
don't know, like build sandcastles on the beach instead of
getting crunky with your friends. You'd be with that. I want,
not around the kids you're gonna be If there's a will,

(26:09):
there's a way. Can I hang out with Uncle Keywan? Yeah? Kids,
you don't drink the kool aid children? You know what?
Wan taste loud? God.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
So, Sarah has now said that she doesn't know if
our friendship will survive this, which I think is an
extreme reaction. I understand that she's disappointed, but I don't
think it's fair to guilt trip us into changing our plans.
She's also acting like we're abandoning her, when in reality
we've been incredibly accommodating for years. I feel bad that
she's struggling, but at the end of the day, I

(26:44):
don't think it's my responsibility to ensure that she has
someone to travel with.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Agreed, Oh yeah, greed. Agreed.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
So the question is am I the a hole for
not wanting to go on vacation with her and her kids.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
The only thing that I would change here in this
whole little story is just say, hey, I'm planning a
child free vacation. You were welcome to come if you
figure out what to do with those little rug rats
and you can come, but just know this is a
child for re location. Like we're drinking, we're drinking wine.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Because then one you're telling her about the vacation, so
it's like, oh, I saw a surprised you know, and
giving you the option but letting her know, like, hey,
the line in the sand tier is we want a
child free vacation. This is this is what we watch.
This is we're planning our vacation.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, we want to go club it. I like that. Yeah,
the you know, communication park. Yeah, everything else of this
is like ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, Commenter number one says, I mean the other option
is to let her come, but you don't change your plans.
This could call for some malicious compliance. Oh, the kids
need to go to bed, have fun, We'll be at
the bar, nightclub, slash whatever. Quickly flagging that terrible idea. Yeah,
it's gonna ruin your trip. Why it's gonna really ruin
your trip. And then you're like like, oh, like do
some malicious compliance to like no, just just say you

(27:55):
can't come on the trip.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
You know, maliciousness needed, Yeah, come on.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Ope, your response to that saying we did consider the
idea of letting her come along while sticking to our
original plans, but realistically don't think it did work.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
And that is correct.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
If we went out at night while she had to
stay with the kids, she'd likely feel excluded, even if
she claims now that she won't mind, and honesty, Lena
and I both know that we wouldn't actually be able
to go through with it. We're softies, and if we
saw her upset or struggling to feel bad, you would
just that's human names feel bad, it's hum name.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
That it would just totally put a little damper on
your girl's vacation, you know.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, dude, go just go find some mommies. Go find
a bunch of mommies and round them up. Yeah, so, uh,
Opie says, we're softies. If we saw our upset struggling,
we'd end up just feeling guilty and changing our plans anyways,
So in the end, it would either lead to her
feeling left out or us compromising our own vacation, And
that is exactly why we felt it was better just
to be upfront about our decision great, rather than setting
ourselves up for a situation where no one is truly happy.

(28:49):
Commenter number two says, I like this idea. You and
Lina do whatever you'd plan to do, go out clubbing,
get in it to am, sleep until eleven whatever, don't
take any responsibility for watching the kids at all, or
maybe explain to say that that's what you'll be doing,
so wouldn't be much of a.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Holiday for her as you'll as she will be looking
after the kids one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Anyways, and Opie says, seems like similar to the first
idea of Opie says, We've tried telling her that, but
at this point, I feel like she refuses to understand.
I think she wants this vacation so badly that she
isn't able to see both sides, which saddens us.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Because she means a lot to us. And coverntion number.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Three says, I think you need to gently explain to
her that she should try expanding her circle to include
more people.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Round up some mommies and a surround up. We need
the mommy circle. I want a mommy circle. Heh God,
hey be careful there.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yes, to include more people who also have children, They're
much more likely to want to do those kinds of
trips to enjoy with children, versus going along with two
of your single girlfriends and feeling left out and envious.
Opie says she has some acquaintances in her neighborhood with
kids that she spends time with. They're just not as
close as we are, which makes sense because we've known
each other for over ten years. But I do agree

(29:55):
that it would be much better for her to play
those sorts of things with them. And I also know
that her own parents mother in law would be available
to go on a vacation with her and the kids,
but she doesn't want that either.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Her own mother aw wants to go on a vacation
with the kids. Yes, her parents and her mother in law,
they're like, hey, god, well she wants, she wants, she wants,
she wants the girls single trip. He wants the girls trip.
Do it? Do it with the moms.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
That is the best option you have where it's like, hey,
everyone's in the same boat and figuring out the childcare,
and everyone's probably like, mommy needs a break, Let's let's
all the moms, let's go to the bar, let's have fun.
That seems to be like the best possible case. Yeah,
I mean I but it isn't as fun as the
single Girl's trip commentary number four not the a whole.
I don't understand how this woman thinks friendship works. Was
she expecting you to babysit? Are you not allowed to

(30:35):
have other friends? This is confusing, Opie says. She said
she doesn't expect us to help with her kids, but
realistically that is near impossible. Love the kids, and if
they went up to us wanting our attention or help,
or if we saw her struggling, we would never tell
them to just f off. We had a similar situation
at our New Year's Eve party where she insisted on
bringing the kids. At the end, we did end up
helping her with them, so we know it just wouldn't work.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Oh wait, you you brought your kids to a New
Year's Eve party? Yeah, Sarah, girl, this isn't it? This
is this is not it?

Speaker 4 (31:05):
No?

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Why?

Speaker 1 (31:06):
At at a certain point it's like know where to
take your kids? Like, don't take them to your New
Year's Eve party. A commenter says, can Sarah find a
family member or trusted friend to look after the kids
so she can go on vacation with Opie?

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Lina?

Speaker 1 (31:17):
What about the kids? Father slash her husband Opie says.
We did tell her that if she found someone to
take care of the kids, she could join us. He
doesn't want to. A vacation without her kids is not
an option for her. Yeah, it seems like.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Wait, wait, how old are the kids? Yeah, so quick contact.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
The kids are three and one and a half, so
definitely not in age where they're able to spend time,
not super closely.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
You can't leave. You can't leave a three year old
in a room. I think you could leave a one
and a half year old and like a little baby
bonnet thing in a room during New Year's Eve, But
I don't think you could leave a three year old.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
But even too, like the one and a half, Like
what if they what if they grab their little diapers?

Speaker 2 (31:55):
You know, like I don't know. What do you have
to immediately? Like I mean when you're sleeping, Yeah, but
it's like what you're gonna be there two hours? You
check in when you right when you get there? Well
you two hours? Yeah, but you you you check every
hour on the baby and you're like all right, like
has it crap? No? All right? Then then you leave
and it's sleeping.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
I guess, Well we have an update three days later,
fresh off the pressens So she has sent me a
twelve minute voice note ending our ten year friendship because
she thinks that we should have celebrated New Year's Eve
at her home with her kids, and that we should
take this trip with her to cheer her up, and
this friendship was not on equal terms.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Dramatic whoa, So.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
He says, Uh, this is the message I'm thinking of sending.
If it sounds a little weird, it's because it's translated
into English from my first language. I'm sorry that you
see it like that. I do understand that you're going
through an incredibly tough time, and it's absolutely never our
intention to leave you behind. But to me, friendship doesn't
mean that everything always has to revolve around one person,
even if they're going through a hard time. We've tried

(32:55):
to find a compromise both on New Year's Eve and
with the vacation, but it feels like it has to
be exactly the way you imagine it or not at all,
And honestly, that doesn't feel like an equal friendship to
me either. Of Course, I can understand that you feel excluded,
but that was never my intention either. There are simply
moments when as someone without kids, I want to spend
time without children.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
You always emphasize that your kids are part of you,
which is of course your decision, but it also means
that sometimes you can't have both if you never really
ask yourself whether there are alternatives, because you assume from
the start that you always have to or want to
have your kids with you, then that's your choice, but
you can't expect others to go along with that decision.
I think that it's really sad that you want to
enter tend your friendship over this, because you mean a
lot to me. But if this is what you've decided

(33:35):
for yourself, then I have no choice but to respect that.
I still hope that at some point we can find
our way back to each other. And I wish you
and the kids' best. That is a really mature response
from OP. Yes, And it's like communicate everything that you're
feeling and what you see.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
But there is a like.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
For instance, I feel like ending this is almost like
like a principles like ending a message with like I
truly wish you the best and everything like those kind
of things matter.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah, this kind of communication, yeah, no, one hundred percent degree.
I think OP did that with like so much class.
And I also like that as a response to when
someone's being an obvious crump to you. It's like like
like on them with the kindness. Yeah, I think. Yeah,
I agree. That's always a move, always a move.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
By the way, it's always a move to go to Spotify,
Apple Podcasts, your favorite pod app, and take those little
fingers and type in.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Okay story talk. What am I doing with my little finger.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Typing in okay story time and listening to two thousand
episodes of amazing content just like this. But we have
one last relevant update before we leave. We have an
update to finish this story.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Just kidding.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
This is comments ah got to and got me too,
So comment number one not the a whole. You won't
read all that. Even if she does, she'll only read
with a lens of proving her own point. Send a
shorter message once she can't pick a part to prove
her point. I who cares express how you feel? That's yeah,
don't don't worry about how yours.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, I mean, but far as you could send like
an under ten second voice yeah, be gen z about
gen Z. But you could send three of those. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Oh, I think this is an example, I respect your decision.
Please feel free to reach out when you want to
resume our friendship. I'm sorry to see our friendship end,
but I respect your decision.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Goodbye. I don't know. I think I think op did.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, that's like that feels like Kay, Yeah exactly, Dude,
Kay is so aggressive on Kay is so aggressive? So aggressive? No,
then just cut contact until till she calms down. Opie
replies to that, I already sent the message last night.
I definitely understand what you're saying, and I agree that
she won't be able.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
To accept whatever I said.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
But to be honest, I did it more for me
because I was getting sick of letting her rewrite the
narrative unchallenged, even though I feel bad about it. And
commenter number two says, so did she respond to your message?
A commenter says, to be honest, I doubt she will
actually end the friendship. You give her way too much,
so she probably won't give that up. She's just gonna
lay on that guilt even more. Opie says, Nope, no response.

(35:56):
To be honest, I wasn't really expecting one. She's clearly
stuck in the role of a victims sense of divorce.
I wonder if she expected me to reply differently. In
any case, she's the one who decided to end their
friendship over this, so it's up to her to rectify it.
Good point if she should ever regret it. And that
is literally all she wrote.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
I think op handle the class. Sam. Here, we're gonna
get back to the stories. But here's three of minutes
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Speaker 6 (36:18):
I refuse to move in with my fiance's family again.
I'd rather leave him.

Speaker 7 (36:23):
Yeah, I mean, I'm imagining like the family from Charlie
and the Chocolate vig. Yeah. Three g four grandparents, one bit.

Speaker 6 (36:30):
Too much, too much for starters.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
This is mostly for advice and to rant a little
because I'm tired and I can't take this anymore. I
want to know, genuinely if I am being crazy and
a witch or not.

Speaker 6 (36:42):
And sorry, this is going to be a long one.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
I twenty three female in my fiance twenty seven male,
have been together for five years and I had chased
him for six months before we officially got together.

Speaker 6 (36:52):
Story for another time. A lot to unfold there, Please
send it in.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
By the way, This comes from Darky moo oh one
on the r slash okay, story time is suppredded. So
in the past, I've always had a bad relationship with
my significant others parents from the start. Either I wasn't
good enough or smart enough, not their type of pretty,
et cetera. So when I knew I liked this man
and he was going to introduce me to his family,
I was nervous that they wouldn't like me for another

(37:18):
thing that I can't control, and this relationship wouldn't work.

Speaker 6 (37:22):
Oh and I didn't mention.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
Before, but I am a textbook people pleaser. So when
I met his family and mother and they all seem
to like me, I was relieved to finally feel welcomed
by a family that could potentially be in my in laws.
And it really gave me the confidence to go forward
with this relationship and focus on us and not why
his family hated me for once.

Speaker 6 (37:43):
So about a year into our relationship, things hit a snag.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
His ex wife tried coming back. Oh oh, I had
a miscarriage and some other things. It's a lot not
that relevant. It's more like character building.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Moving on. Oh my goodness.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
And when we got through that, the VID hit and
everything shut down.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
Wow, that's when it started his family wanted to move,
and since we were living in a mother in law
suite on the property, we had two choices from here
find our own place asap, or help them get the
house on the market and move and we.

Speaker 6 (38:13):
Could move with them.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
I hated the place I grew up, so naturally when
he said that he would like to move in with them,
I agreed on one condition. The place they were looking
at was a building with two living residences, yeah, and
a hall with four big rooms, two bathrooms, a laundry room.

Speaker 6 (38:33):
But it is halfway across the country from my family.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
I have never been more than thirty minutes from my family,
and the thought of being so far from them scared
me beyond belief. But I love this man and want
to start alife with him wherever.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
He chooses to be.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
The condition was that we got one of the living
residences if we helped his parents sell the house and
move there.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
To which they agreed.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
So the plans were set into motion, and it took
us quite a bit longer than we preferred to sell
the house. The reason being is Mom she had no
sense of urgency once things were in motion to get
the house ready to go on the market.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
And when it.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Came time to pack, they waited until the very last
second possible to pack, making things way more chaotic than
they needed to be, considering that it was her idea
to move in the first place. To add to that,
we carry a vand in three cars down to the
new place in the middle slash end of May. So
it was hot and my fiance's car didn't have a seat.

(39:30):
That would have been fine had our predicted two day
drive not taken us.

Speaker 6 (39:34):
A week to get down there. Why is it that,
you might ask whether you guessed it?

Speaker 3 (39:39):
His mom?

Speaker 4 (39:39):
Yet again, she insisted that we stopped and find a
hotel the second the sky started changing colors because the
sun was getting ready to set, and in the morning,
instead of leaving bright and early, we all had to
go get something to eat, per her wishes, and we
never actually got back on the.

Speaker 6 (39:55):
Road until after nine most days.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
Now, mind you, everyone else was fine because their cars
had working AC, so they had no problems. On the
rise by fiance and I, however, had three cats in
the back, a car full of our stuff, and no AC.

Speaker 6 (40:09):
In ninety degrees.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Wow is that safe?

Speaker 6 (40:12):
That does not feel safe?

Speaker 7 (40:13):
I've got the windows open, might be all right.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
I was stuck in traffic one time, like stuck stopped
in traffic and the heat and my car didn't have
AC and then I got to work and I almost fainted.
So so I'm worried about these guys and those cats.
So we did not like wasting all this time not
driving when they knew that we would.

Speaker 6 (40:30):
Be miserable, and so would the cats.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
I love my cat like she's family, and got rather
annoyed that after the third day of stopping before the
sunset and still being over five hundred miles out, I
was continuously being told that we don't have time to
find a pet friendly hotel. So by the time we
got here, I wasn't letting the cats go out as
much to go to the bathroom and eat and drink,

(40:54):
because I just wanted to get to our new place
and let them free. I can't be free me so
worried these cats right now. Turned out that we had
to wait for the realtor to show us the place,
then was informed that we couldn't get in there right away,
resulting in us finding another hotel.

Speaker 6 (41:10):
This time.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
However, we insisted on finding a pet friendly hotel because
I was tired of not getting any sleep, worrying about
my cat being locked in my car all night, and
constantly getting up to.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Check on her.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
This is where my hatred began to grow. When I
unloaded the cats. We had three of them in two
cat crates and a dog kennel. That's what we had
when we started packing, and it worked.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Don't judge.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Also, I won't disclose my pet names because they are
very unique.

Speaker 6 (41:37):
And I don't want my mother in law to find this.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Somehow, my cat, let's call her Sassy, was on top
of my fiance's brother cat we'll call him Mike cat crate,
with the dog kennel and his sister's cats fake named June,
sitting next to him. Little to my knowledge, Sassy's cat
crate had been in the sun the whole ride down,
and when I went to pull her out, her pats

(41:59):
were jo oh. The bottom of the cat create had
melted in the sun because our car had no AC
to keep them cool, and burned the bottoms of her
feet so bad that.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
She couldn't stand up.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
Dude, I was worried about these cats, man, But oh,
my goodness.

Speaker 7 (42:21):
Are your car windows made out of like magnifying glass?

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Like what do you what's going on?

Speaker 6 (42:24):
I was saying, it's melting, it's melting. Gets on there.
It's crazy, dude, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yeah to the mom.

Speaker 6 (42:32):
Not see you, guys, you guys, you've been worried. But
oh my goodness.

Speaker 4 (42:37):
I sat with her in the fetal position and cried
while his family went and got food and left me
to watch the cat, which I had originally agreed to.
No hate there my cat's pads. It didn't heal right,
and gave her and give her problems even now three
years later. Oh and by the way, I remember that
condition we had agreed upon, We had agreed upon before
even helping them sell the house they to us. We

(43:01):
were told after a while we were at the hotel
that we weren't getting a living residence and instead was
getting the biggest room of the hall ones because his
brother offered to pay more for the living residence and
they were getting the other one.

Speaker 6 (43:16):
Oh my gosh, so they won.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
They lost a secret bidding more to his brother for
this like living residency thing.

Speaker 6 (43:26):
Oh my goodness. So mind you.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
We downsized from a house worth of stuff to an
apartment worth of stuff before moving, and now have boxes
of stuff that we can't put away because we live
in a room.

Speaker 7 (43:39):
Yeah, like that's this is all so bad. Yeah, this
is awful.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Yeah, this is crazy important note moving forward, my parents
followed me a few months later. This ended up being
a blessing, as the events following would have been heck,
had I not at them within walking distance. Now fast
forward to about a year and a half living there,
I accidentally got pregnant. This was not something my fiance
and I wanted for a few years down the road,

(44:06):
and were not financially stable enough or at the time,
so the only person I told was my mom. My
fiance was working out of state and I didn't have
a license, so while he was against it, we both
knew I had to in order to get my doctor's appointments.
I hadn't told her though, until I was three months
because honestly, I denied I was for three months until

(44:26):
she had mentioned it to me that I needed to
go dig a test since I was always so sick
and had no real energy. Mother's intuition, she just knows
it just gets you.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
She's like, sick, no energy baby.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Well, my fiance and I, although we didn't necessarily hide
the fact that I was expecting. We also had no
urgency to tell his family either a real a hole
move of us, but this would have been both of
our first child, and neither of us were actually ready
to accept the fact that this was happening quite yet
another month. After another month of hiding it from my dad, however,
by constantly wearing hoodies and baggy clothes. Even though I

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didn't s oh until I was eight months, he had.
He had suspicions, and eventually I told him. He promised
to keep it a secret, but that uh, but that
ate at me that now both of my parents knew
and his didn't. So I told him it wasn't my
place to tell them, as I was the one who
told my parents, so he needed to tell his, but
that he shouldn't really wait. He advised me that waiting

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was the best course of action, as he wasn't home
to defend me or a stick up for me had
things turned when they found out.

Speaker 6 (45:28):
Oh boy, was he right about that.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
He had about a week and a half in between
his work, so he flew back to be with me
and fixed his car so that I could drive it there.
So I could drive it was there for an emergency
where I needed to his brother, and I helped him
with it. At this time, I was about six ish
months pregnant and still not really showing, but wearing a
hoodie in ninety degrees regardless.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Oh that go back again.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
That's showing though, Yeah, right, it's showing that this stood
out as odd to his brother, who then told me
I shouldn't be wearing a jacket in ninety eight degree weather,
and my panic's response to him was I feel fat today.
This was a giveaway, as I almost never eat and
am one hundred and thirty pounds. I have never really
been self conscious about my weight, and he knew that,

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so he later confronted my fiance to ask him what
was wrong with me, as this was not the first
time that he's seen me wearing hoodies outside in crazy
high temperatures.

Speaker 6 (46:21):
Yeah, even if it's not pregnancy, it could be like,
is she okay? Like she just depressed or something?

Speaker 2 (46:25):
I that like what was going on?

Speaker 4 (46:26):
So he told him and asked if he could keep
help keep me comfortable while he's working, as he doesn't
really talk to my parents much but knows that it's hard,
but knows that it's been hard for them being the
only ones who know about it, and takes me to
appointments and such. He agreed, and honestly, his brother is
a saint for defending me when his mom eventually found out,

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I don't remember exactly how she found out, but one
day I was just chilling in my room with my cat,
being all pregnant, and then the next I was packing
my bags and sneaking out. Well, his mom was grocery
shopping because she had kicked me out for not telling
her I was pregnant.

Speaker 7 (47:03):
Oh, that's a great reason to kick somebody out and
not at all a psychotic thing to do to somebody. Yeah,
especially after you lie to them about the nature of
the place that they're moving to.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
In the first place, you lied about this little human
you're carrying that will be my grandchild. So now I
don't want you here. I feel like that the opposite
needs to happen, is like, we need to get you
a better space to live in because you have a
baby coming. I went to stay with my parents in
their spare room while my fiance was working and dealing
with his mom and trying to get her to see
how unreasonable she was acting. She then proceeded to tell

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him that what I had done by not telling her
was hurtful.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Yes, it was. I'll give her that.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
I'll give her that one shame on us, and that
I had robbed her of being a grandmother. What You're
still going to be a grandmother. You just didn't know
about it. It's just a surprise. I was only six
months pregnant. My baby wasn't even born yet. So how
I did that I will never know. I then stayed
with my parents for about two months until he came

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back from work and I was allowed to come home
to talk things through. Well get this, Well, get this.
While I was gone at my parents, she had been busy.
His older sister, who didn't move with us originally and
was still living back in our hometown, hadn't gotten word
of my pregnancy from either of us because we honestly
weren't planning on telling really anyone until the baby was born.

Speaker 6 (48:22):
So naturally, his mother painted me out to be a monster.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
She claimed that my mother and I had hid the
pregnancy from my fiance until I was three months pregnant,
then forced him to lie to everyone about it, and
was secretly planning on taking the baby away from him.
What the what? Oh, my goodness, none of that was
remotely true, as I didn't even know or have a

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concrete proof that I was pregnant until I was three
months pregnant. This is not the only lie she told.
She also had the pleasure of crying to our neighbors
of how she you would never get to see her
grandbaby as I was selfish and would keep her from them. Girl,
you're the one that literally kicked her out of your place.
She also had his dad who was working with him,

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trying to convince him while they were up there that
he should.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Take the baby and leave me.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
I didn't know about any of this until after I
had come back to the house to talk it over
with her and move back in. She agreed that she
overreacted by kicking me out, but then followed her apology
with an but hiding something like that from me when
you knew how excited I was to be a grandma,
and I saw you like a daughter, So I felt
so betrayed. To this day, I have never gotten a

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proper apology from her kicking me out like that. Fast
forward to our baby's birth. For a little history, my
mother can't give birth naturally. All my siblings and I
were sea sections. My sister, who only has one kid,
also had to have a sea section. I wanted to
give birth naturally. I am also terrified of hospitals and surgery,
so hearing from my doctor hours into labor my baby

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wasn't tolerating labor and it was becoming dangerous and gave
me the opportunity to discuss having a sea section or
trying to continue. And if things were still continuing like
they were, we would have to go into an emergency
sea section, which was the worst thing imaginable to me.
I cried for about an hour on my to my
fiance before we decided it was best for our babies

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to go ahead with the sea section, as emergency sea
sections often have complications and can be a lot of
stress and very scary.

Speaker 6 (50:30):
This, however, led to a three days.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
Stay in the hospital, my nightmare, and people coming to
visit us during those three days, his mom being one
of them.

Speaker 6 (50:39):
H we can all imagine we're gond of problems that
would bring.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
When she came to visit, she had seemed to have
a different attitude towards me than she had before. I
thought maybe seeing the grandchild her son and I created
made her forget all that we had previously beefed about
and flipped.

Speaker 6 (50:55):
A new leaf.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
But this was not the case, for as soon as
she heard the name, she flipped out again, saying that
we only named our child that because we know that
she hates names that start with that letter.

Speaker 7 (51:07):
What it's not about you, lady.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
She then proceeded to storm out before getting to hold
her grandchild and dragged his little sister out with her,
even though that she was saying that she wanted to
stay and see the baby. Fast forwards more to now,
when my baby is a year old and over an
overall mother in law has been a surprisingly good grandmother
to my baby. There has been little things here and
there that we have that we have had to remind

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her that we don't want our child copying or learning,
but overall, it has been nice not having to worry
about my baby's health and happiness while I'm working. I
have a full time job and have since my baby
was four months old. I don't pay for daycare because
my parent or my fiance's parents are always available, and
so is my fiancee. I am having him take a
break from working to form abad with our child before

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he eventually does go back and leaves us for months
at a time. Between working and taking care of my baby,
I am never home or out of my room much
to interact with his family. This has resulted in me
being left out of the family decision making, and so
I was not too thrilled when I learned from his
mom that she wanted to move everyone again across the

(52:14):
country to Alaska. I hate the cold, I always have,
so I naturally said I didn't like Alaska. She then
blew me off, saying that it was a gorgeous property
and big enough so that we could have our own
house on it and I could be there to help
her with her farm, animals and greenhouse while the men.

Speaker 6 (52:34):
Went to work.

Speaker 7 (52:35):
I'm just a psycho, but like, Alaska is so beautiful, gorgeous,
and my thing is I like this no as well,
And it's like it's just a it's you know what.
The dark part of this is that in the future,
I'm like, it's probably gonna be really good to be
in a place where there's.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Not a lot of people. But I don't want to
get into that.

Speaker 7 (52:55):
Yeah, but again, it's if you can't handle the cold,
like if OPI doesn't like cold. So it's like, no,
you could not. Yeah, I'm a snowboarder, like I like.
I like the I can I can cope with the cold.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
Going from these ninety eight degree days to snow all
the time.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Yeah, that's the change. Huge.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
I figure that this is just her being her, since
she doesn't work and doesn't really leave the house, so
she was just daydreaming and window shopping. I'm not going
to lie. I do it too when I see a
house come on the market in my area. But then,
to my surprise when I brought it up to my fiance,
he already knew about this plan to move to Alaska
and hadn't even talked to me about it.

Speaker 6 (53:32):
Uh, oh, that's no good.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
I was upset because he knew how much my family
meant to me and knew that they would not follow
me to Alaska, and even more upset that he didn't
think to consult me about it when he found out.

Speaker 6 (53:44):
That's a great point.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
You gotta talk about moving.

Speaker 6 (53:47):
To Alaska with your wife.

Speaker 7 (53:49):
Yeah, it's like, it's it's a crazy I don't understand
that that family dynamic of being like and now we
all live in Alaska. Yeah, because that's my idea. How
about no, how about what?

Speaker 6 (54:04):
By the way, you know what, you guys can always.

Speaker 7 (54:07):
Move to Yeah, you can move straight to your podcast
platform of choice.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Your favorite podcast app. Yeah, iHeartRadio, Spotify, Apple Podcast.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
That's right, anyone, any anywhere? Even YouTube.

Speaker 7 (54:18):
YouTube has a podcast section.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
Whatt you look at that and you can sarch oky
story time and you can live there for How many
days do we have content?

Speaker 7 (54:27):
Fifty two my favorite area?

Speaker 6 (54:29):
Two days?

Speaker 4 (54:32):
Anywa who there is a little bit more of the story.
But do we have any little thoughts before we finish
this guy up?

Speaker 7 (54:37):
I mean like, yeah, you don't have to stand for
these people, like deciding how you're going to live your life.

Speaker 6 (54:44):
The whole family does not need to live together.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
Even like with the trip over here, I was kind
of thinking, like, why do you guys need to have
the same like driving schedule. Can't you guys if you're
taking three cars, can't you guys be like, Hey, we're
gonna stay in this hotel. We're not gonna go to
line or dinner or breakfast or whatever. We're gonna go
straight there.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (55:03):
You come up with a plan and then you're like,
all right, we meet here by this time, and then
you can go do your detour, do whatever exactly.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
I fully.

Speaker 7 (55:13):
Recommend if you do a long distance road trip, plan
out a week and a half, plan out, you know how,
take your time, because then you can like go see
it's so fun to like drive around and like find
all these cool, weird little places you'd never go to before.
And it's like, yeah, it's really it's a great experience.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
After all, take your time.

Speaker 6 (55:29):
It's about the journey, not the destination.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
The journey is the destination, man, But.

Speaker 6 (55:34):
There is a little bit more So.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
I started to fight about it because I'm kind of
emotional about things I feel I can't control, and he
made me feel like I had to move with them
by not talking to me about it. I ended the
argument by yelling at him that I would sooner leave
him than move with his family. Again, everything about moving
is just up in the air right now and nothing
has been set into motion.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
But am I the a hole for telling him that? Wow?

Speaker 4 (55:57):
That was like full circle back to the title of that. Yeah,
that's and that's the end of the story.

Speaker 7 (56:02):
But what do we think think you're an a hole?
I think it's like that's very reasonable.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
Listen, because you could you could you know, describe it
in the way where it's like I never ever want
to leave you, so I would sooner do that than
move to Alaska, you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (56:19):
So if I really really.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
Never ever want to leave you, you can only imagine how
much I do not want to move to Alaska.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Right.

Speaker 7 (56:25):
It's like this is like a dude, like your your
your family has like systematically like do they kicked me
out while I was pregnant?

Speaker 2 (56:33):
I am not living with these people?

Speaker 6 (56:35):
Yeah, I gotta say with my with your child.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Yeah, because literally when she got kicked out, she had
to go stay with her parents. What is she going
to do if something like that happens again and she's
alone in Alaska and he's off, you know, working three months.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (56:50):
And it's like maybe he doesn't get it because he
has that you know, that distance, that separation from his job, and.

Speaker 6 (56:56):
Maybe doesn't get treated the same way from his mom too.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (57:00):
Yeah, No, I don't think the a hole I think.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
I mean, you know, he probably could have taken it
a little far, and he probably you know, could be
offended by it, and you can apologize, but just explain it.

Speaker 6 (57:12):
Just explain it, and hopefully you're able to do it
in a calmer tone. Hopefully you both are.

Speaker 7 (57:18):
I mean, if he's offended, it's like you gotta be like, yeah,
you could see how much it must have taken for
me to get to this point.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
Yeah yeah, show him this reddit post, show mall the comments.

Speaker 6 (57:28):
I'm sure those usually tend to.

Speaker 7 (57:30):
Be very nice people and thoughtful.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
Yeah, but yeah, no, not the a hole.

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Speaker 7 (57:43):
My boyfriend's friend ghosted us after neglect. Now he's acting
like nothing happened.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Isn't that the whole point of ghosting is just like ignore,
avoid disappear.

Speaker 7 (57:55):
Or avoid disappear spook. By the way, I would be
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of you.

Speaker 6 (58:06):
One of our children has.

Speaker 7 (58:07):
An issue when the thought of babies one of a
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Speaker 5 (58:10):
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Speaker 7 (58:13):
Going crazy because I really don't understand this situation at all.
I thirty three female, and my boyfriend let's call him Jay,
thirty five male, have been in a relationship for a year.
We first met in two thousand and seven through the
same friend group, and from twenty seventeen to October of
twenty twenty three we lost touch because I moved away
and focused on my own life. Then we unexpectedly crossed

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paths again and have been together since February of twenty
twenty four. By the way, this comes from user Popsis
directly from the r slash Okay storytime suburn it and
if you want to submit your own stories, go submit
them there. Anything was going well and at the end
of September we booked a trip to Turkey for eight
days so gobble Gobble. The trip itself went smoothly. Jay

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has a dog and needed someone to take care of
it that week. A very good friend of his thirty
eight female let's call her Sharon, was willing to look
after the dog since her house was under renovation at
the time. Jay suggested that she stay at his place.
That way, the dog would have more company, which is
a win win for everyone. Jay has an electric scooter,
which is his only means of transportation. Karen uses this

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scooter at least twice a week, and she was allowed
to use it while we were traveling. This wasn't the
first time Sharon did this. Jay had asked her multiple
times before to take care of his dog, even for
several days, and it had always gone well. Jay's sister
has a spare key to his front door for emergencies.
She lives five minutes away and her children go to
school on the same street where Jay lives. We left

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on Sunday afternoon and Sharon was supposed to arrive late
that afternoon. The dog is always let free in the
house when no one is home, but he can't go
outside on supervised because the yard isn't fenced by the way.
The dog is a fluffy two year old husky who
has a lot to say. Sometimes it happens that he
doesn't get to go outside for up to fourteen hours,

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but he has never had an accident indoors, even when
left alone for so long. On Wednesday morning, Jay's sister
dropped off her kids at school. She had the day
off and thought it would be nice to take the
dog for a good walk. She rang the doorbell first
est in case Sharon was home, because she didn't want
to be rude, But no one answered, so she used
her key to enter the house, and what she saw

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was the last thing she expected. No trigger warning. This
dog was left unattended for sure. The dog was waiting
at the door because of course he had heard the doorbell.
He wagged his tail, super happy to see someone, but
she immediately noticed that something was wrong. He wasn't his
usual enthusiastic self. He looked tired and unkempt, and was

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unsteady on his feet. Living room, at least twelve out
of fourteen flower pots had been knocked over, and most
of the plants had been partially eaten. There was also
trash on the floor and on the couch and the
kitschen in The garbage bin had been knocked over and
its contents were everywhere. Things had also fallen off of
the counter. The dog's food bowl was empty. In the bathroom,
there were socks with holes bitten into them. It was

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all very strange because normally he never touches anything. The
dog's water bowl was also on the floor, even though
it's usually kept in the kitchen. When she picked it up,
the dog started jumping up and down enthusiastically. She quickly
refilled it, and he drank the entire bowl in one go. Jail,
Oh my god, jail for Sharon.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Oh my gosh, jail.

Speaker 6 (01:01:29):
Oh my gosh. That is crazy. That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
My dog's never get excited when I fill up the
water bowl unless they're like really thirsty. And then it's
only been like a couple days. How long has it been.
How long has this this person been watching?

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Yay?

Speaker 6 (01:01:44):
Oh my god, that dog.

Speaker 7 (01:01:47):
She thought to check upstairs as well, and it was
a complete disaster there too. The dog had relieved himself
multiple times and several things had been chewed up. She
immediately let the dog outside, which was clearly very necessary.
Jason's called us right away to inform us about everything.
We didn't see this coming. We were angry and disappointed.
We also asked her to check if the electric scooter

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was still there, but it was nowhere to be found.
Oh so she rolled up, took the scooter, and abandoned
the dog. So this is when I'd actually immediately called
the police and be like, I think this woman stole
my scooter.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Yeah, she literally stole from me.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
I wonder because isn't there things that you can like
can't you can't you take some sort of legal action
against like neglect of a like animaliba.

Speaker 7 (01:02:31):
I don't know if you could set like there were
to probably have to be like a contract of some kind,
Like it would have to be like you, you'd have
to be able to, like clearly prove that it was
Sharon's responsibility and that she had agreed to be there.
Face's sister started cleaning up the mess and took the
dog for a short walk. Meanwhile, we tried to read Sharon,
but we got no response. Thankfully, Jay's sister was willing
to take care of the dog so we could continue

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our trip with peace of mind, knowing the dog was
now in good hands. For the rest of our trip,
we still got no response from Sharon. His sister also
didn't think Sharon had entered the house at any point
during this time. The day before we were supposed to
return home, Jay sent Sharon another message telling her to
make sure she returned the electric scooter. He really needed
it for an important appointment that he couldn't miss, and

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again no response. When we got home, the dog was
of course very happy to see us, and we felt
the same. Unfortunately, the scooter was still nowhere to be found.
We sent Sharon another message, but again no response.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Substances, what are we doing? Like secret? Like is this
in a gin?

Speaker 7 (01:03:31):
Like what did she like steal the scooter and pawn
it for like money? Like what's going on here? Why
did she fall off the face of the earth?

Speaker 6 (01:03:38):
Yeah, she just ghost? She turned into a ghost.

Speaker 7 (01:03:41):
And days later Jay woke up, went downstairs and found
the electric scooter standing in the living room.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
The house keys we had given to Sharon were on
the table.

Speaker 7 (01:03:51):
That's so ominous. What however, that's not all. Later that day,
when Jay tried to use the scooter, he noticed that
the front wheel was stuck and he could no longer
be charged.

Speaker 6 (01:04:02):
That's the only reason they got it back.

Speaker 7 (01:04:05):
Yeah, I would have called the police.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:04:07):
I would have been like, this woman stole my scooter?
Are you kidding me? You like you basically like you
could have killed my dog?

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Yeah. I would go full scorched earth against this woman.
Lookin scooter.

Speaker 7 (01:04:18):
Still not a single word from Sharon. The following week,
Jay also realized that his bird spikes were missing from
the cupboard, new ones worth around three hundred yuros.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
What the heck are bird spikes?

Speaker 7 (01:04:30):
A mysterious object was missing from the cupboard dence October
twenty twenty four. There has been no contact with Sharon
until yesterday. Till yesterday, I had to drop off two
garden chairs at Jay's place with my car. Suddenly, he said,
as if it was the most normal thing in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
I sent a message to Sharon.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
Me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Huh, what did you just say?

Speaker 7 (01:04:55):
Jay said, I sent a message to Sharon. You sent
a message to Sharon. Uh, yeah, I just wanted to
see if she would reply. And yeah, she said the
renovations were finished and I should come by to see them.
I'm going over this evening when she's home from work.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
What like nothing, okay, like literally nothing happened, not even
going to dress anything that just happened.

Speaker 6 (01:05:20):
Just like, Hey, I you should come check out the place.
All the renovations are done.

Speaker 7 (01:05:23):
You should be like, yeah, come check it out after
you tell me why you abandoned my dog and stole
my scooter.

Speaker 6 (01:05:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
I think if I was If I was op, i'd
just be like, Okay, so when are you going over?

Speaker 6 (01:05:32):
Because I am too. I'm coming with you. I'm coming
with you.

Speaker 7 (01:05:35):
Yo, So when are we coming?

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:05:36):
Where are I'm going to talk to this girl?

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Wait?

Speaker 7 (01:05:39):
He said, It was as if nothing had ever happened,
and I had no idea how to respond. I was
so surprised, shocked, and confused. I said goodbye and went home.
I didn't hear anything else from him that evening, and
I also didn't reach out. I barely slept that night,
constantly wondering why he would contact her himself, someone who
treated us, but especially him so badly, and then act

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like nothing ever happened. I don't get it, and it's
driving me crazy. Now, so really quickly, this is a
situation where you don't let that one simmer overnight. Like
Angie said, it's like you just immediately go cool. I'm
going too, because I'm gonna confront her about what she
did to us and our dog.

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
Absolutely, and if if you think that he might like
not like that idea bringing up calmly at first?

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Okay, interesting.

Speaker 6 (01:06:27):
So when do you think you're gonna go over?

Speaker 7 (01:06:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Yeah, when do you think you're gonna over?

Speaker 6 (01:06:30):
No, I'll probably go on the stage. Okay cool?

Speaker 7 (01:06:32):
Oh yeah, I think I can make it that day too.

Speaker 6 (01:06:34):
I'll go with you yeah, let the day roll around
and be like, all right, I'm ready. I'm ready to go.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Yeah, I'm ready.

Speaker 6 (01:06:38):
You're already in the car, just waiting until he gets
in to go over there.

Speaker 7 (01:06:42):
Yeah, I'm gonna drive separate. I'm gonna go first sent
me a message to wish me a good day and
ask how I was doing. This is something we do daily,
but I didn't respond, as I have my own business
and sometimes can't reply until the evening, so that wasn't unusual.
Once I got home, I messaged him asking why he
had reached out to Sharon himself. His reply is, I
was wondering if she would reply. It was an impulse,

(01:07:05):
seems reasonable enough. When I asked if he had thought
about what would happen if she actually answered, he said no.
Then I asked why on earth he went to visit her.
His answer was, I was curious to see her finished house.

Speaker 6 (01:07:18):
Well guess what som so me, angie, not even me
a opie.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
I'm I'm curious. I want to see it.

Speaker 7 (01:07:24):
I want to see what kind of house this person has,
and then I want to like unleash ten thousand ladybugs
into it. Then she even came back to his house
afterwards because she wanted to see the dog again. Side note,
I am one hundred percent sure they are not having
an affair. They lived together for a year due to
financial reasons, and there have never been any romantic feelings

(01:07:45):
on either side. When I asked what she had to
say about the dog and the scooter, he replied, and
I kid you not.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Oh no, I completely forgot you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
I'm sorry, Scott, you forgot about the jog, almost almost
passing away because of neglect.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
I was like, what are you talking about, dude, what
you're talking about?

Speaker 7 (01:08:09):
You forget?

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 7 (01:08:12):
He's probably just like, oh, oh, I just didn't want
to be confrontational.

Speaker 6 (01:08:16):
Figure it out. I do I want to be confrontational. Yeah,
let me do it.

Speaker 7 (01:08:19):
Then not only did he completely forget, but Sharon didn't
bring it up either. How convenient. By the way, you
can listen conveniently to full episodes with stories like this
on Spotify, iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts. Wherever you listen to podcasts,
just search Okay story Time, and then you will find

(01:08:42):
fifty two wonderful little days full of stories that you
listen to.

Speaker 6 (01:08:47):
Not quite little, they're quite full.

Speaker 7 (01:08:49):
Days twelve hundred and fifty hours and we do have
a little bit more story loft, but uh so what
are we doing here? Like he's like, oh no, I
didn't bring it up, and she also didn't bring it up.
I just wanted to see the renovations on her house.

Speaker 6 (01:09:03):
Yeah, not only did I bring it up, but I
have forgot. I forgot that that happened.

Speaker 7 (01:09:07):
Like like where are we? Where are we at? Like
are we are we being? Like do you need to
be honest with me? Or like I'm leaving? Or like
I separate? Like or split we're splitting it off? Because
it's like this, It's absurd to me that you could
just like blank that out.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Of your head.

Speaker 7 (01:09:25):
It would be out there, something's going on out of there.

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
My dog literally almost passed away and tore up the
house because it was so desperate for food and water.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
And you're just gonna forget about that?

Speaker 7 (01:09:36):
Yeah, and then like take thek and just say nothing,
say nothing, say nothing ghost us. I need reasoning. I
need reasoning, Like right now I have no words for this,
at least none that I won't regret later.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
What is going on here?

Speaker 7 (01:09:53):
Why did he reach out to her himself to see
if she would reply, what kind of explanation is that
she lied, stole and nearly this dog, thank God for
his sister right, and completely abandoned us and he's just
acting like nothing happened. Am I supposed to do the same?
Can anyone offer any insights? Because I can feel completely
lost right now and we have some comments. Let's go

(01:10:15):
comment one. Let him have whatever relationship he wants with her.
I would be cold and distant with her. If you
helped clean up her mass, I would not be inviting.
I would leave if she was around. He can do
as he pleases. But it is very strange that he
would be okay with losing everything to her and he
just lets her do it. She got the extra money
from the item she stole, which probably helped her finish

(01:10:35):
her repairs. There is something else going on with them,
and don't be fooled. I would not be around the
person that would do that to a friend. I would
never trust her again, and she has it in her
nature to use in her friends. She would be out
with me period. Opie says, I do not want to
see her, and I will not go to Jay's house
if I know she is there, I will not see her.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
In his house.

Speaker 7 (01:10:55):
I will not see her with a mouse. I will
not see her over here. I will not see her
over there. I will not be able to keep my
mouth shut. I don't want people like her in my life.
And he knows this, and still he contacted her.

Speaker 6 (01:11:08):
Yeah, and that's the end.

Speaker 7 (01:11:10):
Of the story.

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
Wow, wow, easysion ever bye bye, Get out of there,
Get out of there, tell him off.

Speaker 6 (01:11:23):
Get all this trash.

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
What I would love to do if she, if she
like did go over there with with him, to like
check out the new place.

Speaker 6 (01:11:29):
Get all the trash. I mean it's probably thrown away already,
but get all the trash.

Speaker 4 (01:11:33):
Said that the dog you know, left out all the plot,
the plant pots that were broken.

Speaker 7 (01:11:39):
And over trash and the socks.

Speaker 6 (01:11:43):
Dump it all over the place.

Speaker 7 (01:11:45):
There's a great place you guys got in here, love
so glad you just finished it holding another big bag
of trash. Can you show me to the bedroom? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:11:55):
Yeah, put all of the because also the dog you
know went to the bathroom. Get all that, get all that,
swing all there.

Speaker 7 (01:12:03):
I just cannot I cannot fathom banging with him after that,
Like I'd have to tell him. I'd be like, oh,
we're breaking up, And it's because I don't think I
can like respect you anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:12:14):
First and cheating, I would say I.

Speaker 7 (01:12:16):
Have more respect for you if you cheated on me
than if you did this, like for real, like I
don't even like man, that's not me condonting cheating. That's
just me being like the person who almost like your
dog and then like abandoned you and like really like
was tote like I don't know you just like forgot
and you're just like, yo, can I see the finished
version of your house?

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
It's like who who are you?

Speaker 6 (01:12:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
That's crazy? You really remember, dude.

Speaker 6 (01:12:36):
Crazy people

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