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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:12):
My friend's wife accused me of flirting with him. She
embarrassed me in front of everyone.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Oh nos, so good.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I'm so embarrassed right now. But I do not think
I did anything wrong. Let me explain the situation. I've
had the same mutual friend group since I graduated college
three years ago. It's a group of people I met
through my best friend Jenna female twenty five, who was
my sorority sister in college. Included in the friend group
is her older brother male twenty nine, Joe and his wife, Diana,
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female twenty eight. I considered both them my friends too,
but would say I was closer to Joe as he's
Jenna's brother. By the way, this comes from direct Caterpillar
seventy seven on the Okay Storytime suppared it. So, Diana
hosted a birthday dinner for Joe over the weekend. Our
mutual friends were there, but so is Jenna and his family.
I was happy to get to know some of the
people I hadn't met. I know his parents well and
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caught up with him too. Diana and Joe also had
a child recently, and I did see him a few times.
He's adorable. When we were sitting down after dinner, Diana
freaked out on me. She yelled at me in front
of everyone to stop flirting with her husband, stopped touching him,
and did not come into her house and be disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Whoa wow o, whoa.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
That's a big accusation.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Yeah, and making a scene out of it too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
People got quiet after this before my best friends started
talking about something else. I left shortly after. I wouldn't
want to stay. I'm gonna go cry. I truly don't
think I did anything disrespectful throughout the night. I of
course talked to the birthday boy a lot. Everyone was
I didn't remember touching him too much, but it was
close quarters, so I did brush up against him a
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few times. I did give him a big hug when
I saw him, and later when I gave him his gift.
That's it, Jenna, and she said that I should talk
to Diana and Joe about it, but that I should
keep my distance from him for now, because she's never
seen Diana this angry. I was supposed to attend their parents'
anniversary party, but she told me that wouldn't be a
good idea right now. I am a very friendly person,
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but I respect people's personal boundaries. If anyone had an
issue before, they could have mentioned it to me. I
have not changed this in the past three years since
I've met both Joe and Diana. I am so embarrassed
that she basically accused me of trying to sleep with
her husband in front of all of her friends and
his family. I feel like I can't show my face now.
And there are some relevant comments. Dapple Gray says, do
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you value salvaging your relationship with this woman? If so,
I give her a call and ask for a brunch
or coffee or some girls outing thing and explain to
her that you're really not into her guy, sorry that
you came off that way, how horrible it must have felt,
et cetera, etc. Showing empathy is the best way to
get people to soften up once you reach an understanding,
tell her that what she did was really jar for
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you and hurt your reputation, and ask her to fix it.
Since she's the one that damaged it, she needs to
tell other people that she had the wrong idea and
clean up her own mess. I know it's a tall
order and most won't do this, but this would be,
in theory, the proper way to repair the relationship so
that everyone's happy and all the pieces are picked up.
An OP response, yes, because if I'm not good with her,
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then I won't be good with Joe or his family
or his close friends. They were looking at me like
I had five heads after she yelled at me. When
I left, His mom said that's for the best. Ooh,
Like these are people she's known forever.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Right, and everyone's just like believing her.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I asked Jenna today if she thinks she would apologize,
and she said not to expect that and to better
respect boundaries. I don't know, OPI says. Joe hasn't talked
to me since and didn't respond to my texts. No
one is going to apologize to me, and I didn't
do anything wrong. I feel like I'm in an alternate
universe right now. No one has ever complained about how
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I act. Jenna all but told me not to attend
the party. I really want to go, I say, do
not have family near me and her parents have treated
me well, I don't know if I should push that
or not. And there is an update from Ope, But
what do you think?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I really am still stuck on, like I feel like
I want to see the other sides.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I believe you Ope.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Like everyone turning on you like that, like there's gotta
be something else going on.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Like there's me and well, you wouldn't help, but you
would hope that there was like some reason for Ope
to get this barrage of like maybe.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
The why what is her name? Diana?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Diana?
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, maybe she like really did see something that's like questionable.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
But also it's like she could talk to her normally
about it. You don't need to like yell at her
in front of everyone.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Also, I think a lot of times in other stories
where we have like a person like Ope, they're like
touching another person's partner and they're being overly friendly and
blah blah blah, and then you have like the other
partner who steps in and says, hey, like that's inappropriate.
Can you stop? And then in those stories that person
like keeps going and that's when you have the big
blow up. But here it seems like there was no
previous conversations. It was just the big.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Blow up right right, and then I want to know
what he thinks about exactly, Like he's not even talking
to Opie like this is your friend and to say
like hey, either hey, you were being a little bit
overly touchy these you know in the future, or no,
I'd like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Like, you didn't do anything wrong, like give ape something exactly.
Update Jenna and I just FaceTime for the past like
forty ish minutes. She said that she talked to her
sister in law, Diana, and her brother over the weekend.
This is what Diana said. I am always touching and
always flirting with Joe. I'm route to her, ignoring her
and not saying HI when I go over to their house.
I've texted Joe late at night, even though he had
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a pregnant wife at home and now a young baby.
On his birthday. I went to their house, barely said
anything to her, went to see their baby. I hadn't
met him yet, got them all worked up, but had
enough time to take a picture for Instagram, and then
she had to spend the next fifteen minutes calming him down.
When she came back out. She saw us in a
corner alone, me giving him his gift and hugging him.
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I touched him other times throughout the night, and no
one else had problem. I did not talk to her
at dinner. She was on the opposite end of the table,
so of course not yet. I was joking and flirting
with her husband. She said I am not welcome in
her home again. She said. Her brother said that he's
sorry his wife yelled at me, because he was the
one who she should have been yelling at. Diana asked
him multiple times to pull back on our friendship because
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I was being rude to her and I was always
touching him, and he said nothing. He'll now be doing
that apparently. So this is something that Diana has brought
up multiple times to Joe, and this is the first
time that Ope's here's about her, Like, that's pretty disrespectful
for him not to put up any of those boundaries.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Like Diana should be more mad at Joe in this situation. Obviously,
Opite doesn't note.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
By the way, you know what I know. You can
listen to full episodes of stories like this if you
go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcasts, app
and search. Okay, storry time, And.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
There is a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
If we are to believe what Opee is writing, which
is the only thing we can do. It seems like
Diana might be someone who is like my partner cannot
have or my husband cannot have female friends, and it's
like any any sort of contact, even a hug, is
too much, in which case it's like very hard to
be friends with the person like that, who has a
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partner who is just like so controlling.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I don't know. We also have heard a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Of stories where like the person that's accusing someone of
cheating is the one.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
That is Yeah, maybe she's projecting. Maybe she has her
own thing going on, right, Like.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Maybe she thinks that this is a little suspicious because
she's doing the same spicious things.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
No, but it is pretty ridiculous that they've had this
conversation multiple times and Opie's just hearing about it now. Ridiculous.
But there is a little bit left. No one ever
called me out about these things, and I still think
that Diana is reading a lot more into everything than
there was. I did not purposely ignore her. I always
talk to her. I just know Joe better and felt
more comfortable with him. She's always been preoccupied with her
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pregnancy and now their son, so I haven't seen her
as much owls and Cardinal says, It's hard to say
whether you've been out of line or not. It is
clear you do not feel you of but I strongly
encourage you to see this as a learning experience. When
you're friends with the couple, it is good to nurture
the relationship with both, and perhaps especially with the female.
Women often are not completely comfortable with their husbands being
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close with the female friends that seem to maintain distance
with the wives themselves, and the same goes for men
not being comfortable with wives being close to men that
the husband is not. And well, you may see that
as silly, but it is pretty standard in my experience,
knowing that it is to be expected. You don't want
to invite the situation again. It seems clear, at a
minimum that you considered her much more of a secondary
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friend and didn't really try to connect with her. And yeah,
the late night texts are somewhat over the line. If
she raised this to him to set some boundaries first,
and he refused or failed her, her bigger issue should
be with him than with you, and it's too bad
you took the brunt of it. Try to see your
role in this only to try to avoid a similar
thing from occurring in the future. And Opie says, thanks.
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I don't have too many friends who are married and parents,
so it's different than when I hang out with other
people who are in a friend group. The late night
texts are something I've sent to other people too. I
know now I shouldn't do that, but it isn't like
I was hitting on him. I was wasted when sending
some of them. I now know to hide my phone
when that happens. I should have maybe tried harder with her,
but we were closer in the beginning. Since she's gotten
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pregnant and had her child, she's been busy with all
these pregnancy things and taking care of the baby. It's
hard to be friends. Test user name says, wasted texting
a married man late at night is sketch af not
trying to be friends with his wife because it's too hard,
is too I think her call out was probably justified. Oh,
he says, I can see why you think that, But
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to me, he wasn't a married man but a friend.
He isn't the only person I've wasted texted. The list
is pretty long and someone hilarious. I have tried to
be friends with her, she has been busy and not
around his off as Joe has. I do think she's
reading too much into it. I'm closer to Joe than
I am to her. That doesn't mean I'm flirting with
her husband or trying to get him. And test Username
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says Joe seems to think her complaints of some basis
in reality. Maybe you are the one not seeing things
clearly slash in denial being one hundred percent honest with yourself.
Are you attracted to Joe even if you've never acted
on it? Opie says he's an attractive guy. Sure, that
doesn't mean I'm flirting with him or trying to sleep
with him or anything. That is the end A little
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bit more of a suspicious reply at the end, right, And.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
It's just normal for you to like drunk text your
friends and give them compliments and stuff like.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, it really depends on the context, but that's the
end of that story.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
My best friend is a cheater, so I sided with her.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Ex husband when they got divorced.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Good.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Yeah, I think that's good.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
My best friend thirty five female, Emily and I thirty
five female, have been friends since college and lived together
for three years. Since then, we've both been married, had jobs,
had kids, and plenty of moves, but we have.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Been very close friends through it all.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
When she got married, I was her maid of honor,
and when I got married, my only sister was my
maid of honor.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
But she's still right next to her.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
By the way, this comes from Primary Possession twenty one
on the r slash Okay story time separad it. So
I have always valued Emily as a friend. She was
always my practical friend.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I was always the.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Mom of the group, making the plans, planning the itinerary,
keeping our friends safe, et cetera. But I wasn't alone
when she was around. She was a good time, but
level headed. She was there for me throughout college and
through the many ups and downs. One of those friends
that can pick up at any time right where.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
You left off.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Three years ago, we did a couple's vacation to wine Country.
It was supposed to be a fun weekend away without
kids and all of us like wine. Emily was a
mess got super wasted by the second vineyard and was
practically falling over herself, broke some of the wine glasses
and threw up.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Oh hey, Emily.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I've never been like wine tastes or anything, but I
have heard that it's like really easy to get dr well.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I mean, you're like jess is so many sip it up.
I had one glass of shame pain on. I was like, that's.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Whoa, But still like you should probably understand when like
you're getting there. You know, we're in our thirties and
I've done tastings in wine trips before, so it's not
like she didn't know how.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
To pace herself.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
It was weird, but we tried to just go home
and to bed and try again the next day.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
But the whole trip was just weird.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Emily picked fights with me and with her husband, wound
up crying and literally laying on the lawn of the
house we stayed at for a while. Her husband told
me at one point that she threatened to divorce him
if he didn't agree to another kid. WHOA, that's not
how you want to go into planting.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I kind of led to my parent's divorce right well.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I told him their family planning is private and between them.
I also said that ultimatums had no place in a
marriage and advised marriage counseling instead of coming to me.
The last day of our trip, I pulled her aside
and said that I was worried about what I was.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Seeing and that she might want to consider talking to someone.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I told her therapy helped me so much and I
think she might really benefit from it considering everything she
had going on. She also revealed a bunch of family
trauma during the trip that was very dark. She flipped
out at me and told me that there was nothing
wrong with her, that if I needed a shrink, that
was on me, but that she didn't need that.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
And I should mind my own business.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I put my hands up and said, okay, no problem,
my bad, and left it alone. Our friendship wasn't the
same after Mind you, this is three years ago. She
lives about thirty minutes from me and has seen me
a handful of times since I reached out to her
two years ago when my second son was born and
having postpartum, asking to spend some time together since I
was really struggling. And while she was empathetic and would
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text me back, we didn't send any time together, nor
did she reach out or support me in any way
not directly requested. We were invited to the big things,
birthday parties, et cetera, but the texting, calling, and everyday
friend stuff pretty much stopped. She invited me to a
concert about a year ago with another friend, Brie, and
during the concert accidentally revealed that she had asked every
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single other one of her friends to go before she
asked me because they had an extra ticket.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Why want you reveal that. It's like, yeah, you were
my last choice, but.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Like, so glad you're here.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
All that to say we're not super close anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Fast forward to three months ago, her husband text me
at six am asking me to call.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
He told me that he found.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Out while on vacation with Brie and her husband that
Emily had been cheating on him. She told him that
she never loved him, wanted a divorce, and had planned
to stay together until after the holidays. Brie called me
the same day and said that her husband found out
because Bree's husband knew the details of their girls strip
the weekend before, where Emily slept with two random men
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connected with her ex boyfriend from college, and asked me
to keep this all secret until after the holidays, oh man,
right before they were all going on vacation together.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
It was a total mess. Dang.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Sorry, I know this is really long, but I'm trying
to include the details so people get the whole picture.
Since this happened, she has lied continuously to her now
ex husband, her friend Brie, and to me. She called
me the day all of this happened and said that
she was sorry for our falling out, but I had
seen things during the trip that she wasn't ready to face,
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and that she realized that she's unhappy in her marriage
and motherhood two months prior, and that she missed her
ex so she decided to leave.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Like what, Yeah, that's a lot of info. Seems like
she does this trauma dumping thing a lot. I'd happened
on the wine trip too, Yeah, I guess. So he's like, hey,
you should get that checked out, and she's like, I'll.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Let a problem.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
She's like, let me lay in the lawn just because
I want to. Yea, nothing's wrong.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Literally, nothing's wrong. I just am touching grass.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I'm just cheating on my husband with multiple people.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Including my ex.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
We talked for a while and I asked if she
would try counseling or anything to save their marriage, especially
considering the kids. And she said absolutely and that she
didn't want to throw her life away but realizes it's
not worth. When she got home to her husband, she
said she wouldn't do counseling, already had a boyfriend and
wanted a divorce.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Dang, that took a whole one eighty.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Well, it seems like she's just trying to say whatever
op he wants to hear. So she's like, because she
doesn't want to lose this friend. I guess I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, she gave him the house as long as he
would pay for her tummy tuck. She moved into an
apartment and is thrilled to be on her own, booked
about five vacations in the first couple of weeks on
her own. She has no job, no prospects, no applications
out the door, and the only money she had after
their divorce was final is gone already. I guess you
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can get a divorce in thirty days if uncontested. Anyways,
this brings me to now. Several of her friends, including
brit You, have talked to me since expressing their dismay
for the whole situation, and we.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
All feel so bad for the kids.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
She was superbombed that imploded and is basically gone. She's
up one minute and down the next. We all strongly
suspect there was something very wrong, but Emily, he has
not been receptive to me in the past, and a
few others have recommended therapy or at least to put
on the breaks before changing anything to no a veil.
Emily and I have talked once in the last few months,
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and then when she told me to come visit her
at her new apartment and to let me know she
and her husband got divorced, at which point I told
her I knew that since he and my husband are
friends and have talked several times while all of this
was going on. Her husband, my husband, and I have
all been friends for now ten years, and this is
just so unlike the Emily we knew. So we all
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have whiplash and have been in touch with him a
lot throughout all of this because he's completely devas stated
and very much in the place of is this seriously
who I'm married? We also want to be a support
for the kids as much as possible. We've been talking
to her ex husband now for months and have gotten
together a few times with the kids without Emily to
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give him support and have our kids who are all
friends and little like all under the age of eight,
some happy fun times. I haven't said anything to her
about it, and while on one hand, I feel I
don't really owe her anything at this point, on the
other hand, I feel incredibly guilty and like I'm going
behind her back since we have been friends for a
long time. By the way, you never have to feel
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incredibly guilty if you just listen to full episodes like
these with stories like this, just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Or your favorite podcast app and search. Okay, storytime, do it.
There is a little bit more, but I think we
need to unpack.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
So oh, he has been with a couple other friends.
I guess she's been helping out Emily's ex husband with
the kids because they're friends too, and is not told
Emily about any of us, And that's what she's kind
of asking. No, I don't think you're the ahole for
helping out this ex husband who's also your friend and yeah,
his kids, because it's clear that you and Emily just
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have very different values and more rooms and stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Right, and you have come to Emily, like you been
there for Emily and like talk to her about it, but.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
She pushed you off.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
She's yelled at you, right or like when she does
take your advice and like agree with you, then like
behind your back, you'll.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Switch us up.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
And I mean you can still have the idea of like, listen,
if she comes to me she needs help, like I'll
be there for her, but right now I'm not gonna
come to her.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
I think that's totally reasonable.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, totally, but there is a little bit more, so
let's get on into it. That said, my husband now
pretty much hates her for everything she's done to her
husband and children and wants nothing to do with her.
Her ex husband has been floundering through all of this
and has been isolated, So I do think a connection
with him and the kids through this is where the
support is needed. And I really don't think that you
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can or should be friends with both sides in a
situation like this.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I haven't posted pictures of our kids together or.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Hinted at seeing them in any way, but it all
just feels icky and like I'm abandoning her.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
So am I they ajo? And that is it?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
So why do we think.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I don't think you're abandoning her. I think that she
has kind of pushed you to the side multiple times, yeah,
when you try to help.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
So, yeah, I think she's the one that's like not
putting in the effort into the friendship or any of
her relationships. Obviously, I think it's okay to have a
friend that you don't agree with what they're doing and
try to urge them to do the right thing.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
And be like, you know what, they're going to figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
But in this situation, it seems a little extreme for that, Yes,
and also to the point where she's like, you know,
attacking you and not really like listening.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
That's the end of that story. My entitled friend kicked
my dog, so I kicked her out?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
There you go, very fair response.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
As the title says, last week, I kicked what I
thought was a good friend out of my house because
I could no longer handle her antics. Just want to
write it here just to distress and deal with the
grief of losing a friend. By the way, this comes
from Uncle Barnacle on the Okay Storytime Severed It. So Kendall,
twenty five, female and I met in university in twenty sixteen.
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We studied different majors, but we're from the same department,
so we share many classes together and bonded over our
passion for gaming and memes. Upon graduation, Kendall moved back
to her hometown due to COVID and found a job there.
We kept in touch online through Instagram. About three years later,
Kendall told me she found a better paying job in
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the city, so she's planning to move out from her
parents place. When I asked her about her plans on
her accommodations, she replied with that's the thing I was
gonna ask if you have an extra bedroom that I
could move into. Very presumptuous, right was It hadn't even
like was like, yeah, I'm planning to move to the city.
Didn't really think about where I'm gonna live beyond your
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I'm gonna live with you. For a context, I have
inherited an apartment from my late grandfather, which is a
nice three bedroom, two bath near the city center last
year or January, and I currently live alone there since
it's closer to my workplace and it has all the
convenience of public transport. After some thinking, I thought there's
no harm in living with Kendall. Since I considered us
close friends, we just gus the terms and of course
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the rent. A week later, Kendall moved into my apartment.
It was great at first. My home felt more lively
than usual, and the thought of going home to a
close friend warmed my heart and gave me a sense
of security. Things were okay for a while, and then
crap goes downhill super quick. Kendall started complaining about many
things at home, about her work, her savings, and how
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she felt homesick. At first, I was very accommodating, thinking
maybe she just needs time to get used to the
city life. I offered as much help as I can,
even to the point of if she's low on money,
I don't mind voiding a month's rent if it meant
I could help her to achieve financial stability. I taught
her how to save money, how I live off with
my then low salary with several commitments like my car,
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my dog, and a student loan. I grew up where
my parents expect me to be independent, so I told
her things I do when I'm low in cash, how
to get freelance jobs, et cetera. But she always seems
to have an excuse for every suggestion I have finding
a freelance's job is too hard, or how she couldn't
let go of her premium junk food that she isn't
willing to cook or meal prep. And I eventually decided
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to leave it as it is. And after two months
of living together, I realized Kendall started treating me as
some kind of competition. She would constantly ask me things
like how much money I make a month, how many
job hoppings did that take? Anything that she thinks she's
better than me, She'll definitely pop that question. She boasts
about how she's loyal to her crappy paying company and
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how I would never be able to move up the
corporate ladder, as she called me an industry frog. What
hopping from? What does it even mean? I have no
idea like you're hopping from one job to the next,
or something like you can't move up. She once snooped
my savings balance and asked how the f did I
have so much saved up with commitments, et cetera. Mind you,
she didn't have a lot of commitments, since her parents
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paid off her student loans and fully paid off a
brand new car for her and maybe I should stop
collecting rent from her. I got mad and told her,
if she isn't happy living with me, maybe she should
move out. Que crocodile tears, and she said it was
a joke. I didn't have to take her seriously. She
begged for forgiveness and promised to never snoop my personal
items and details. Again. I let it go once, but
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she kept bringing things up like well, you have the
cash and a credit card every time. I told her
I'd rather stay home because I no longer have the
budget to go out and have fun. Comments like these
became more frequent when I got a new job six
months ago. On top of that, she doesn't clean up
after herself, tried to flirt with my boyfriend, and at
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times parked in my parking space when our initial agreement
was that she had to find her own parking space
if she's moving in with her own car, because my
apartment only is one parking lot per unit. The straw
that broke the Camel's back was when I caught her
kicking my dog in his abdomen when I got home
from work. I yelled at her and rushed to check
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my dog. Luckily, he was fine, but I still rushed
him to the vet for safety measures. I got home
and she sneered that it was just a dog, and
as a friend, I shouldn't treat her like that. I
asked why she kicked my dog, and she didn't answer me.
She just shrugged and tried to escape into her room,
pausing for a second.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Oh my goodness, this is the first time that Opee's
caught that. When we were read the story, or like
the title, I was imagining like, okay, maybe some sort
of like argument broke out and then she got mad
and just like kicked the dog once. She just got
home from work and happened to catch her doing this, Yeah,
which to.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Me implies that she's done this more than once.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, and kicking too like it could have been you know,
more than one, just like quickly little, which still would
not be good.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
If she closed the door and wouldn't open it and
like locked or something, guess who's kicking down that door.
I'm kicking it down, barging.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
In out here, dude.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
At this point, it was already about a year since
Kendall moved in with me. I lost my cool and
told her off, bringing up her problems and how I
tried to be nice and accommodating. Then I told her
I'm giving her a week to move out and that
from then on, I rather we keep our relationship casual
or we don't even talk at all. Kendall cried and
begged me not to kick her out, but soon it
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turned into her screaming back at me, calling me a
bad friend because apparently, in her words, I didn't tell
her off on how badly she was behaving, like WTF.
There was a lot of back and forth, which I
don't remember what I said, but I remember eventually calling
her an entitled bratt. She cried again, saying it was
uncalled for, and stormed off to her room. The next day,
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I was bombarded with text from other UNI friends, some
calling me selfish and other sympathizing with me. Apparently Kendall
posted our argument on Facebook, Classic Move and Instagram, painting
me to be the bad guy. I was upset at first,
but I decided that after Kendall moved out, we would
no longer be friends, as well as those who took
her side of the story and condemned me. Anyone's posting
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any personal information or personal fights and stuff on Facebook
is already the bad guy to me. Honestly, if I
ever see someone like being like and then they did
this bah on like a public story, I'd be like,
so you're the problem, right.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
It's like, I feel like the only reason you're trying
to get the public's opinion on this is because you
think that you know different I think from Reddit stories.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Well one, because those are usually anonymous, right, But also
it's just like a different Reddit is not usually geared
towards people in your circle.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Last week Kenda left and I have changed the locks
on my apartment. I curled up in my bed and
cried myself out, probably from the sadness of losing a friend,
or maybe I'm finally letting out all the frustrations. I'm
definitely still grieving about this loss of a friend, as
I've had many good times with Kendall. For now, I
want to focus on myself and hopefully I eventually get
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over this at it. The whole teasing that I have
more money than Kendall got worse when I told her
I was given an offer by MNC as a senior designer,
and I disclosed her the offered salary as we always did.
Like I know how much year its two, which was
about fifty percent more than hers. That was dumb on
my part. I now understand why my parents told me
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to never disclose slash discuss salaries the moment I started working.
And there is an update. But man oh man, man
oh man, Yeah, this is not a person that you
want to be friends with at all.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
The money thing is like one thing too.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Like we've said in other stories, it's like you can't
tell someone how to spend their money, you know, you
just can't, and then literal like abuse to your dog
and just saying, oh, it's just a dog, and then
shruggling about why you did it.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
It's like this person is like deranged. This person is psychotic.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Literally, It's like when I was watching Planet of the Apes,
they're all like all the humans are like being all
like kicking the monkeys and stuff, and I was like,
even if you don't think that they're like smart or anything,
why are you mistreating them? Why are we doing that?
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Something's not right?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Update? Hello everyone, I'm here with some updates about me
and my DOGO, as well as my now ex friend Kendall.
Let's start off with the update about myself. I've been
doing well, and surprisingly, as some of you mentioned previously,
I've gotten over the loss of this friendship rather quickly. Well,
I mean, she's been awful this whole time, it's not. Yeah,
my boyfriend planned a trip to a pet friendly beachfront
hotel and I spent a few days with just my
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boyfriend and Doggo. We played in the seawater and I
watched my dog play in the sand. Overall, had a
great time, and we even grilled fish together while watching
the sunset. Doggo had a d bone fish file at
What a nice time. I am also grateful for my
friends who stood by my side regarding this issue. They
check in on me from time to time and sent
me funny content to watch during my free time. Some
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of them even told me their stories about Kendall and
their discontentment with her behavior, which I will list some below.
Friend A Kendall ridiculed Friend A several times because Friend
A earned less than Kendall despite working a year longer
than Kendall. Friend B Kendall talked trash about friend Bee's
company via Instagram just because Kendall flunked her interview with
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said company with Flying Colors. Friend see Kendall always demanded
Frenzy to be her personal driver during our college days.
If Frenzy refu use, Kendall would guilt Tripper Friendy. Ruined
Friendy's assignment by pranking him. She actually formatted his laptop
when the project was due in two weeks. When confronted,
all Kendall said was oopsies, there are many more, but
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these are the more icky ones I've received from my friends.
And now, at that out of the way, here is
today's main course. After I kicked Kendall out of my house,
one of my unie friends, let's call her Anne, stood
by Kendall's version of events and has allowed Kendall to
move in with her instead. Ooh boy, she's about to
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have a wake up call Kendall, like your kettle's the
been totally wrong. She's the victim here. And then she's
gonna live with Kendall and she's gonna be like, oh, Anne,
call me out of the blue this afternoon, and her
first question to me was, how on earth did you
manage to put up with Kendall for a year. She's
driving me crazy. Long story short, whatever Kendall did when
she was living with me, she now does to Anne.
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Snooping Anne's personal items, leaving dirty laundry around, generally being
a prick in the butt, and told me she's planning
to force Kendall out of her house too. I didn't
comment much since Anne was among those who called me
a cruel person. But now it's come back to bite her. Yeah,
by the way, you know what never comes back to
bite you?
Speaker 4 (31:13):
What listening to full episodes with stories like this.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast
app and search. Okay, storytime, but there is a little
bit left to the story, but you have any final thought.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
It's like just another one of those stories where it's
like you are being bad mouths to people, but you
know you're in the right. And then soon enough, those
people who believe the bad mouth thing they understand and
they finally come around.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
You don't have to do anything. All what this does
is it shows you who your true friends are exactly.
They'll eventually realize that you were right, which is its
own reward. But there is a little bit left. But wait,
that's not all. According to Anne, Kenda lost her job
because she tried to ask for one hundred percent increment
and attacked her supervisor When the increment request was turned
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down two weeks ago, she was immediately escorted out of
the office building by security. WHOA, And she just texted
me twenty minutes ago saying she needed a favor from me,
that she wants a job at my workplace. Oh, he
already kicked you out. Why would she ever want to
give you.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
A job even if she didn't kick you out, Like,
just off of that, Like, what if.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
You don't get a job, now you're attacking everyone? Is
that happy with the dog? He didn't give you a.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Job, I replied, stating, ooh, there isn't any vacancy tbh.
Even if there was, I wouldn't hire her out my
own So yeah, I hope this is the last time
I'll hear from Kendall, and I'll only update if somehow
something interesting happens that involves Kendall. And that is the
end of that story.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
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Speaker 5 (32:47):
I refuse to rekindle a relationship with my ex wife
because she had an affair.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
There's a reason she's your ex.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
I know what you're gonna say, it's fake and that
you saw this in a Wholemark Christmas movie, and I'm
right there with you. Honestly, I wouldn't believe it either
if it didn't happen to me. So if you can't
believe it, then just pretend and give me advice anyways,
Like I'm a real person, because.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I am, you are a real person, Opie.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
By the way, this comes from amazing a Hole on
the r slash Okay story time, so I read it.
So I thirty two, mal met Sarah, thirty female. That's
where you went wrong in grade school in our small town.
She was my first everything, girlfriend, love, and eventually wife.
We both went to college together, and after I graduated,
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we got married when I was twenty three, she was
twenty one. Sarah was still finishing her degree and I
worked hard to support both of us while she completed
her studies. When she got her first job, I was
so proud of her. It felt like all her sacrifices
and hard work were paying off, and I thought we
were on our way to building a life together. For
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two years, everything seemed fine.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Or at least I thought so done done.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Then one day I came home from work and found
her packing a bag. She sat down and told me
she had been having an affair with a coworker. I
was completely oblivious. She was crying and apologetic. She just
loved me, but that she was in love with the
coworker and they had this chemistry and a deep connection
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that she never felt this level of excitement and attachment
with me.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I'm happy for her to find that reasoning during your relationship.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
At the same time, she seemed to be really apologetic
and acted very guilty. She moved in with the coworker
that night. Oh wow, she felt guilty, Riley. She felt
guilty that she was cheating on her husband, her first love,
her first everything. That's so funny. Sarah made the divorce
quick and as easy as possible. She didn't contest anything
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and took almost nothing. In the state we live in,
you can get a divorce in ten days if there
aren't any children involved. We found the papers ourselves. I
was no lawyer, couldn't afford one. After it was final.
If she asked if we could be friends, and I
am ashamed to say that, I just broke down and
sawved like a baby in front of her, said nothing
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and left. At that point, she was twenty three and
I was twenty five. A couple of years later, in
early twenty twenty, while riding out COVID in my hometown,
my mom casually mentioned that Sarah had married the guy
she left me for. Apparently, Sarah's parents and mine had
talked about it since they were longtime friends, and Sarah's
parents were hesitant about the marriage but supported her. Hearing
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that stunk. I had done everything I could to move on,
but knowing she had married her a fair partner felt
like reopening the wound. I told my mom as kindly
as I could that I didn't want to hear about
Sarah anymore. She understood and never brought it up again.
That's good, dude. You know how many guys I met
at church near here that have been divorced, and they're
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under like twenty three three.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
That's still a lot. Well, divorce rates are going even
more up.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
I want to change that me too. I was broken
and depressed at first, but I went to see a
therapist and got some meds. I got some certifications, and
through a friend from college, I got an interview with
a global consulting company. My friend was married and couldn't
do the amount of travel that job. Required, so he
pushed hard for me to get the position.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Good friend.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
I started traveling around the world and pretty much worked
all the time. At first, on any Giving Day, I
was either in the gym working or having a virtual
therapy session at three am. I was a dull boy.
I got into incredible shape thanks to lifting and running.
Eventually got a long term project in Romania and was
able to meet and have relationships with women.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Nice Okay, I feel like this is the distraction OP
needed after.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Every bad break up. I hit the gym so hard
I lost twenty five pounds.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
There you go, good for OP. On all of this
like this is the distraction that they definitely needed.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
Oh heck, yes, dude. Fast forward a few years. Recently,
I had a few weeks of vacation saved up and
I wanted to spend Christmas in Iceland. I went to
my parents' place in my hometown for Thanksgiving with my
sister and brother. Last Thursday, I was at the local
independent drug store in what passed for downtown in my hometown.
It was a lunch counter, like an old fashioned drug store.
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I got a cup of coffee and sat down at
the counter drinking it. When Sarah sat down beside me
and said hello. No, she was super nervous and red
in the face. I was shocked and just sat there
looking at her. I was exploding inside, but I kept
my cool Outwardly. She was still beautiful. She was very
fit herself and had lost her baby face and became
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maybe even more beautiful. She started off by apologizing for
the way she ended her marriage. I told her she
already apologized like one hundred times when she dumped me,
but she insisted that she was young and stupid, and
over time she realized how much she had hurt me. Dude,
she's trying to come back to the honey.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah, is she? Like? Oh? He go, he worked out,
he looks good, he's traveling, he's enjoying life without me.
He no, he can't do that.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Oh yeah, because the parents are talking. He said, stop
talking about Sar to me. But Sarah didn't say stop
talking about Op.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Okay, Oh look at us, And I'm not taking her
back the way Op's writing about it. He wants her.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
Oh, this is the first time he's seen her since
the divorce.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
I think you've done it. I've done it. Like, oh,
what happens if you saw your ex and like, what
would you say? Like I would say this, I would
say that, And then when it happened, she.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
Wanted to meet me later in a last crowded spot
with fewer spies small town. Remember, I shook my head
no and told her frankly that I didn't see what
I could possibly get out of the meeting with her again.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
That kind of took the wind out of her cells,
and she kind of deflated. She admitted that it was
probably more for her than for me. She said that
I'd get closer not only for how she ended things,
but for the kind of person she was back then.
She wanted to tell me about how she changed and
what she learned about herself and what real love is.
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She wanted me to see that the person she become
is someone that I could respect and maybe be friends with. Again. Nope,
I wanted to get the heck out of there, so
I just told her I think about it. She gave
me her number and went home. Apparently my mother and
sister had already heard about it from Sarah's mom. So
I am a big dumb victim of some kind of
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big dumb Hallmark Christmas movie hit job. My sister twenty
nine female and mom fifty five female told me that
they kept up with Sarah since our divorce and they
know that she's changed and that I should hear her out.
My dad fifty six male, just shook his head and
walked off. My brother twenty two mail, thought all of
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this was hilarious. I asked if he wanted to chime in,
and he just shrugged his shoulders and said that since
Sarah and I knew each other from when we were kids,
I should at least hear her out just to keep
the peace between our families, since we live in a
small town.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
If I were OPI, I don't owe her a d thing.
I don't care about people's peace. I don't care about
her piece. You have no idea what trauma Opie's gone for.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
And dude, she cheated on him. No one's like hearing
that part.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah, why is everyone like kind of like, Oh, let's
hear her out like she deserves it. You guys have
been like lifelong friends. You guys should hear it out,
like No, she burnt that bridge long ago when she
moved in with the person she was having an affair
with that night. That too, she had an affair on you,
and she was like, oh, sorry, it's not you, it's me,
And now she's giving you the peace of day that
oh I've grown as a person. I was young and naive.
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I want you back in my life.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
Gosh, dude. Personally, I do think that her family would
feel insulted if I didn't at least talk with her.
I know for a fact that she's living with her
parents now, so it seemed like her life completely crap
the bed. I kind of like to get the gory
details as maybe a form of shade and fro, but
it's all behind me now, and I think it would
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all just make me sad. I guess I'm a better
man now that I'm more mature, more wealthy, and fitter
than I was when I was with her, But I'm
still the same guy that she didn't have chemistry or
connection with back in the day, So I think whatever
comes out of her mouth would be bull crap. I
think she's probably a dragon cosplaying as a princess and
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wants me to be her White Night. My mom and
sister are pushing hard for me to meet her, and
my mom says that she's afraid if I didn't at
least hear Sarah out that Sarah's mom will resent her
and make her social life more complicated. Let me make
it clear that I have no intention of getting back
with Sarah. Sarah's beautiful, but so are the women of Romania,
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Iceland and elsewhere, and they have the added bonus of
not breaking my heart. I'm interested in going just to
hear about what happens to her after she dumped me,
to smooth things over for my folks. What do you
think right it? Should I go? I kind of want
to talk me down off the ledge. Would I'd be
the a hole if I ghosted my ex wife and
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we got a freaking day. Are we going or not?
Speaker 1 (42:16):
She doesn't deserve you, OPI. That's the thing. I do
believe in hearing people out. She wants to give you
the closure that you so called deserve. You don't deserve it.
You already had your closure, you already moved on. But
I would hear her out. I like giving people second chances.
It's like, okay, you changed, I'll hear you good, good
for you, and that's it. We go our separate ways.
Speaker 5 (42:33):
Yeah, it definitely will close that chapter of.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Your life completely. Yeah. I think that you get the
closure that that person wants to give you. You don't
not saying she deserves it, but you get that closure.
She gets that closure. Finnay, it's done.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
I think I got closure from my ex whenever I
moved out of my home. Sound.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yeah, you got distance. You're not getting reminded of her.
You're like, now I can move on. That's what OPI did, Like,
I don't want to hear about it from my family,
don't talk about it, don't talk about her. I'm gonna
go travel the world. And at the first maybe a
couple of months, he's like, oh, I'm sad. He's like,
why am I sad? I'm traveling the world, enjoying life.
I should enjoy it to the fullest.
Speaker 5 (43:09):
Yeah, this probably will help OPI out in some ways.
Therapy session talk to him.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, I mean it's going to bring up some like
internal trauma, but I think that's gonna be the best
for just like the full closure.
Speaker 5 (43:20):
We got an update, folks, Hi, I'm apparently known as
the horror Mark Christmas movie guy. I'm currently writing this
from Iceland. I have some friends I met while doing
some consulting work here. This time of year, the days
are very short and the northern lights are visible. Unfortunately,
it's supposed to be cloudy and rainy for this foreseeable
future here, so I'm out of luck with the Aura
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boy alas we're doing a Christmas pub crawl among other things.
Reg Vic is very single friendly during the holidays. After
I posted, for the next couple of days, my mom
and sister kept bugging me about it until I caved.
I know. I made it clear to them that I
had no intention of getting back with Sarah and that
I was pissed that they thought there was a chance
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I'd get back together with someone who stabbed their son
and brother in the art. Finally, I told Sarah i'd
meet her at the playground at our old school. It's
a small town, so there's only one school that's K
through twelve. When we met, I told her upfront that
I'm just there as a favor to our parents and
my sister. She acknowledged that and we engage in a
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little small talk. She told me that she had started
following me on social media. I've since made it friends
and family only, and she saw how I've been all
over the world and even commented on the girlfriend I
had in Romania. I told her the name was Monica,
and we had a great time together. Then she started
in with the juicy stuff I wanted to hear. Unfortunately
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it wasn't very juicy, just regular boring relationship craft. She
started living with the guy, and it quickly became a
parent that once she was with him, the relationship went
from exciting affair to regular home drum relationships.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
I haven't seen that one coming. Like that happens every time. Oh,
the affair so spicy, I'm cheating. I can't do this. Oh,
and you get caught and you're like, uh, now it's boring,
not just a standard relationship.
Speaker 5 (45:11):
She might have a type for married men. Now she's
just She said she knew the forbidden sparks were gone
the first time she had to pick up and launder
the guy's skid mark underwear. Yep, she left me for
a guy who was barely toilet trained. She said that
she was into now that she couldn't have thrown me
away for a guy who is no good, so she
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doubled down by marrying him. Sarah was always very stubborn.
He was apparently a good salesman and earned a lot
in commissions but he was really bad with money. They
had a lot of fights about money and household chores,
and finally she caught him cheating with a coworker. Oh
the irony.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Wow, what goes around comes around.
Speaker 5 (45:53):
She left him with a wrecked credit score. She was
pregnant with his kid at the time, so she terminated it,
trying to avoid the filter. This was something no one
in her families know about. She's been living with her
parents and working at the same feedstore her dad works at.
She said she wanted to reconnect with me due to
the fact that we were childhood friends and had been
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each other's best friends for seventeen years and she missed me.
She started on about how much therapy she's been through
and she is a completely different person now. She wants
to know how much she cares about me, and that
girl I was best friends with is still there. Blah
blah blah blah blah. I can't even write this manipulative
crap anymore. I guess I'm not a nice guy anymore.
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I didn't want to start any kind of beef with
her family and mine, so I just told her that
I also changed since she dumped me. I told her
that when I touched something and get burned, I don't
touch it anymore. I told her that it's great she
worked on herself, but some new guy idiot will have
to benefit from that. When I look at her, all
I see is her crying, telling me she's leaving me,
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holding a proverbial knee with my blood all over it.
In my mind, she's a person who says, honey, I
love you, but I also love stabbing. No, thank you, ma'am.
I told her that if we got together, the resentment
would make me treat her like crap all the time,
and that she didn't want or deserve that. I told
her good luck in her future endeavors, and I hope
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she keeps up with her changes, and that I had
to leave to go to Iceland for Christmas. Yes, I
was bragging. She was tearing up and trying not to
let me see her cry, and I pretended to not notice.
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Just search Okay, story Time and Kean, how are you
feel about this? Do you think she wrote this out
scripted it and memorized her thoughts and like.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
She recited it now in the shower as well, and
that's what she wanted to say, and she got it out.
But guess what Op is doing one the right thing
of hearing her out, hearing her sob story, like you
kind of brought this upon yourself. And he's gonna go
to Iceland and go enjoy Christmas pub brawl. And this
is great for Obie. He's not rubbing it in too
much to like hurt her, but he's like, I have
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my life and honestly, because of you dumping me, I
wouldn't be enjoy enjoying my life now. And look how
that's changed. You left me for this guy who literally
isn't great. You can't even wipe his own.
Speaker 5 (48:24):
At that's crazy. Yeah, hope he made it work out.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
It's gonna make Op feel so much better about himself.
It's sorry for the girl. I mean, you brought this
upon yourself, But guess what sucks for you, Sarah. You
brought this upon yourself. You left a great man and
you made him even greater.
Speaker 5 (48:37):
Sarah's of the world. Stop ruining men's lives.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Opyrooting lives back to the story.
Speaker 5 (48:41):
My dad was disappointed. I cave to my mom and sister.
He made it feel like I failed the test of manhood.
I told my mom and sister not to expect any
wedding bells or grandchildren's flash and nephews anytime soon. My
brother called me a simp, so I had to wrestle him.
He got me to headlock. The guy's getting too big
and I held back too much. I love for ies
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in the next day and I'm there until the new year.
I'm headed to Budapest for a following up project. Sarah
is not invite.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
This was great, good job, Oop, no matter how you
perceive it, Like if Sarah was the one that got
cheated on and Op was, It's just one of those
like sweet stories of like you got cheated on, they
left you for someone they thought was better, and you did.
Speaker 5 (49:22):
The best revenge by working on yourself.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
You worked on yourself, you did therapy, you worked out,
you traveled the world, and you bet cool people and
they come back into your life, crawling back into your
life asking you, oh, like I messed up, you were
the one, and you're just like, okay, well that's I
was the one. You're not my one anymore. I love
this story.
Speaker 5 (49:42):
You do also. I hate that you had to go
through Sarah Op for you to find your best life.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
But sometimes you got to go through those obstacles, you know,
to get to the load to enjoy the high.
Speaker 5 (49:52):
My ex best friend is having an affair with a
married man.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Get I'm unmarried.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Now.
Speaker 5 (49:56):
The events in this post are all real, but since
some some events include have made our local news, names
and details have been excluded or changed. This is a
long story, so we'll have three parts. Hello, you can
call me Grace. My best friend we can call her Anna.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
By the way.
Speaker 5 (50:14):
This comes from disabled Pan on the r Slish. Okay,
story time, self about it. Anna and I have been
friends since high school. She was one of those girls
who had always needed to have a boyfriend, leading to
many bad relationships. She mostly met guys through Xbox, Snapchat,
and tendered. Her sourcing is spot on crazy Xbox.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
It's like, oh my god, are you actually really a girl? Yeah?
Meet me here at that seven eleven. We'll get out
those slurpace.
Speaker 5 (50:39):
Sometimes. She wasn't very into the guys she was with,
and our friend group had to convince her to break
it off of them other times she was obsessed with
the guys who just did not want the same things
from her. Being teenagers, I chalked this up to her
low self esteem. In other areas of life, she was kind, supportive,
and very honest, so I thought I always matched her
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energy and we were never afraid to speak our minds. Eventually,
other drama led us to breaking off from the friend group,
and we became best friends since graduating high school. In
her late teen slash early twenties, Anna started riding motorcycles.
I did not, but I did my best to be supportive.
She joined a local riding group, not a gang, and
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found people to meet up with rides, which I thought
was great until a few months later when she started
talking a lot about this one guy and his wife.
This couple was in their forties at three kids, and
frequently hung out together in motorcycle group with Anna. But
the guy who called Jack had a very specific and
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very cool motorcycle that they Anna and Jack would ride
on together. I was skeptical, but didn't go off yet,
so it continued. Jack was showing her some new tricks.
Then Jack was helping her repair her bank at her house.
Jack was paying for parts and gears for her riding,
and for some reason his wife was acting jealous.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
Yeah, this is all reasonable and gross.
Speaker 5 (52:10):
At this point, I assumed it was obvious that Jack
was hitting on Anna and she was either oblivious or
being witfully ignorant to get some perks. She laughed it
off and said not to worry, nothing was going to
happen between them. Little did I know by this time
she was completely used to lying to me. Weeks later,
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when I had not changed my opinion, Anna finally confessed
to me that she and Jack had been doing a
lot more than what she was saying. She had hidden
her full blown affair with Jack from me because she
knew I wouldn't approve, and also because Jack had instructed
her to keep their little secret ill. She tried to
defend the affair by admitted that she had also cheated
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in many of her Xbox Slash Snapchat relationships in the past,
and had hitten it from me. Shocked, baffled, since everyone cheated,
it wasn't that big of a deal, right, Well, call
me a luxury Vinyl plank. Because I was floored. She
also gave excuses on his part, all the usual ones.
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His wife was awful. She didn't want to sleep at
ham as much after their three children. She apparently turned
the kids against him too, But he didn't want to
have a broking home, so obviously his only option was
to have an affair with this girl who's less than
two years older than his oldest child, his still minor child.
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So I'm guessing Anna is like eighteen or nineteen.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
I would assume she's in the late teens. I hope,
I really hope.
Speaker 5 (53:51):
What's like keep kids being minors if they're their twenty one?
Speaker 1 (53:54):
I don't like you.
Speaker 5 (53:55):
I didn't feel like I was adult until I was
like twenty.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
I feel like there's times where I'm like, oh, I'm
an adult.
Speaker 5 (53:59):
I can imagine being anywhere like this until I was
like twenty. I made my feelings very clear to Anna.
This whole situation was not okay and this was not
a good man. When she pushed back, I tried to
empathize with her because she was my best friend. Maybe
he made her feel desirable, gave her advice, and bought
her stuff, but none of that mattered because of all
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the obvious ways that he was a terrible man. She
would not hear any of it. He was a great
guy who did great things for her. She was an
adult who could make her own choices, and he just
wanted what was best for his kids. Yeah right. She
also refused to tell his wife, shocking. Ope ultimatum, you
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tell the wife, or she tells a wife, or he
tells a wife. Someone's telling the wife in a week.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
At this point, in an hour, I'm over there.
Speaker 5 (54:50):
If I get any small sniff of a cheatings affair happening,
I'm letting the partner.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
Up, even if you don't know them, even if.
Speaker 5 (54:58):
I don't know them. It was like on train and
I hear it, okay, whatever, but it's like I hear
your friend of a friend and I'm like, oh, I
kind of know her in some way or know him.
Speaker 1 (55:07):
I'm like, dude, hey, I'm gonna stop this tomfoolery.
Speaker 5 (55:11):
Yeah, as a human, you cannot allow that. For the
next several months, Anna and I also had a strain
of relationship. We fought, but I was also busy with
college and work, so I mostly wanted to ignore the
whole situation. I had never met those people and had
no proof of anything, so there wasn't much I could
have done. Anyways, During this time, Jack proved to be
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a complete d bag. He constantly degraded Anna, calling her
a stupid child, and getting pissed when she wouldn't drop
everything to wait on him hand and foot. For example,
if he forgot to bring lunch for work, she was
expected to make something and bring it to him immediately,
no matter what she was doing. I continue to tell Anna, yeah,
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he's awful, get rid of him. But after all his
love bombing, she was attacked. Eventually, the inevitable happened.
Speaker 1 (56:03):
Yeah, gross, maybe she's into that.
Speaker 5 (56:05):
I think she's super young. She doesn't know what love
bomby is or what this looks like.
Speaker 1 (56:09):
Who is the worst here, Jack the forty year old
who's cheating on his wife and his family, or Anna
the one that's going into it and like just enabling it.
Speaker 5 (56:19):
I don't think she knows any better, dude.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
So it's Jack. Jack's using Anna for sure, and Anna's
just like this is what it's supposed to be, right,
Like he's the good guy and I love him, love
him because she doesn't know what love is and she
doesn't want to listen to anyone, like you just want
to hear anyone about it. She's like I'm in the
right there, Jack tells me, I'm right.
Speaker 5 (56:36):
It's sad Jack you His wife had been moving in
the shadows and somehow sinked his phone to their laptop
so she could read all the messages he had been
leading She had all the proof she needed. She kicked
him out and changed the locks. This man actually broke
the door handle trying to get into the house to
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just have a conversation, and this led to the wife
getting a restraining war and filing for divorce. Jack and
Anna were also banned from the writing group. Why do
I know this information? Anna told me about it because
she and Jack had decided to move in together and
she wanted me to meet him.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
Yeah, he's such a great guy. He just broke off
a handle because he just wanted to talk.
Speaker 5 (57:18):
I would never want to meet Satan.
Speaker 1 (57:19):
Never, no, no, but he's great.
Speaker 5 (57:22):
Apparently, now that she was separating from his wife, he
supposedly wanted to meet some of Anna's friends and family.
He was somehow always busy and never met her family.
I told her that based on his actions and how
he has treated her in the time, since I would
never willingly put myself in a room with that man.
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She was upset with me and we had a major
fight where she says some completely hurtful things about me
and my fiance. This was the straw that finally led
to me blocking her on social media and we didn't
talk for months. Part three The Rest That's a New Time.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
I like that title.
Speaker 5 (58:01):
This is the final act climax. Oh boy. The only
thing I never actually blocked was Anna's phone number, because
part of me held out to hope that she would
come to her senses and eventually want to apologize. Boy,
was I wrong. Months after our fight and a cause
I decided to answer. She tells me that she and
Jack had been riding a motorcycle in the next town over,
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but something happened and Jack was arrested. She might need
to ride to a place to stay. I asked if
she had anyone else to call, finally gaining a spine,
and she ended up getting a ride from her dad
back to her place with Jack. I get on the
Facebook page for our local police scanner and found out
what actually happened instantly. These idiots had been riding with
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Anna on back, going over one hundred miles an hour
when they passed a state trooper instead of stopping, they
started an hour long police chase, trying to outrun several
officers and police helicopter, but he ran out of gas
in the next town over and was immediately arrested.
Speaker 1 (59:07):
He's just a good guy.
Speaker 5 (59:08):
At first, they arrested Anna too, but the cops assumed
she was his daughter and let her go. Jack is
now facing several charges, including felonies, and it is almost
certainly going to prison. Even if he doesn't. This has
cost him his career as a car salesman. As for Anna, well,
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I'm still a recovering people pleaser, so I gave her
a spot on my couch for two days before she
was supposed to move to her grandparents house. During that time,
I got filled in on all the horrible ways he
treated her. The house was never clean enough, she was
lazy and stupid. He had even gotten her fired from
one of her jobs by showing up at her work
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trying to fistfy a mal coworker who had invited her
out for drinks. All of this made me feel really
bad for Anna, and though I thought she was done
with him for good. Maybe we can recover from this.
I honestly should have learned my lesson by now. A
few days later, Anna calls me crying. Even after that arrest,
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she continued speeding and ended up getting two separate tickets
in less than twenty four hours by the same cop.
That's even more embarrassing because of her driving history. She
will have to go to court for these and will
almost certainly lose her license. And apparently Jack was mad
at her about it. Why does he even know about it?
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We should all know by now, because instead of going
to her grandparents, she went back to him. I hung up,
But if you're not done reading this story, you don't
have to hang up the phone, and you can go
to our spodcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts wherever you listen
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more stories like this. What's wrong with her? Keon?
Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
I was gonna say therapy, but this is not good.
I don't think there's any excuse here. This girl has
been manipulated and emotionally and mentally. I guess you can
say I feel bad for her, but like nothing is
gonna fix her. It seems like you gotta just take
her away from this guy. I think you gotta put
her somewhere where it's just like she can't really do.
Speaker 5 (01:01:10):
Much back to the story, so she and Jack are
completely screwed. Since he's going to jail and lost his job,
he is sure to lose the kids and just about
everything else in the divorce. Apparently his wife is trying
to take his very cool motorcycle, and I hope she
gets it. Anna will have nowhere to live because she
was never actually on his lease, and her job is
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at a different car dealership parking cars, so she will
probably lose that too, But I won't know because the
next time she calls she will find out I finally
blocked her number. Ope, he got a spine and is strong.
Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
I feel bad for Anna because that's just a terrible
life to live, but you brought that upon yourself, and
you keep doing, keep going back. You're just gonna have
to learn the hard way. And looks like she is.
Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
Hit the fire's hot. Stop touching it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
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My ex confessed her feelings for me, but we are
both married.
Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
That's why you don't go to high school reunions.
Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
So this will be a weird one. I made a
throwaway for it as I think it's a pretty unique
situation that this person in question could very easily figure
out is about them. I don't want them knowing my man,
even if they have or use Reddit. I thirty five male,
am happily married with two children. My wife thirty two female,
and I have been together for eight years, married for four.
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By the way, this comes from user thrown away Underscore
Rebound on the ar Slash showcase Storytime Separate. So we
were out shopping in our hometown when we ran into
my ex friend, her parents, and her children. She moved
out of the state over ten years ago and I
haven't seen her since, nor have we had any contact
other than Facebook happy birthday wishes? Do you do that
with your exes?
Speaker 5 (01:02:49):
Nope?
Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Sorry, she's married with two kids of her own. Anyway,
onto the situation, My father in law and her father
are friendly with each other. They're both retired military, and
they they occasionally have breakfast together with their other retired friends.
When we ran into each other, her aka my ex
dad congratulated my wife and I on our children. We
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figured my father in law told them we were expecting
our third child. I saw my ex friend look at
my wife's belly and then acted distant for the rest
of the exchange, whereas she was friendly starting off. We
trade pleasantries and said goodbye. My wife and I continue
our shopping. By the time we're done, I checked my
phone and see I have a Facebook message from that
ex friend. Ex friend says, it was good to see
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you again. I say you too. The family looks good.
Ex friend yours too? Would you want to grab coffee
and catch up. I'm in town for a couple more days. OP,
We're actually pretty busy, otherwise I would be down. I'm sorry,
ex friend, I understand adulting. Can I ask you a question? OP? Sure?
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What's up? Ex friend? Was I just not your type? OP?
What do you mean? Ex friend? I'm asking? What did
I do wrong? OPI didn't respond, as this was out
of nowhere?
Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
Facts all right? I like that.
Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Ex friend says, I pursued you for years. We were
inseparable for years, and you never gave us a real chance.
I loved you, our families loved us, our friends loved
us together. You just never committed all the way for us.
You wouldn't even have spicy sleep with me, and I
need to know. Why was I not good enough? Could
you not see yourself married to me and having a
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family together?
Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
Hey, what does your husband Greg think about this?
Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
Let's talk to your husband about that. I didn't respond
and showed the messages to my wife. She knows of
this girl and my reasoning for her and I growing apart,
mostly because we see her family everywhere, and she asked.
My wife told me to be honest with her, but
I'm not sure if that's right. It feels mean. I'm
going to give my point of view on our friendship,
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and I'm hoping I can get some advice on where
to go from here. So basically, she and I I
met through friends in high school. I was very interested,
but she was dating someone at that time. She ended
up asking me out a month or so later, and
we went on dates and kissed a few times, though
we never had any conversation of being official, hence me
calling her friend and not girlfriend. One night, while riding
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in the car, her who I thought was her ex boyfriend,
called her and asked her when she'd be over. She
didn't have it on speaker, but I can still hear
the conversation. She told him. I can't talk right now,
and he asked, who are you with. She didn't tell him.
He later figured it out and messaged me on Facebook
asking if I knew they were still together. I apologized
and said I didn't, and I would cut things off.
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I called her and she started crying, saying she didn't
have the courage to tell me they were still together,
but she liked me so much and was going to
break up with him. I cut her off anyway. Woo.
It's one of those things where, oh, wow, you're cheating
on two guys and you don't get either of them. Yeah,
she just wants more.
Speaker 5 (01:05:55):
I need more attention.
Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
I like you so much. Guess what, I guarantee you.
She saying that to the other guy too. Oo, I
like you so much. He's just a friend.
Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
He's just a friend. Don't worry about him.
Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Fast forward a few more months and she reaches out
and we go through the same motions, her wanting to
be with me, but always having another guy messaging her
that I would catch out of the corner of my eye.
This lasted embarrassingly for years throughout college in our early twenties.
It was always the same, She'd reach out, we'd reconnect,
and things begin getting series again. I'd check her social
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media and see she just broke up with someone. We
even went on vacation to the mount together for a
weekend and the same thing she had literally just been
there a month ago with her ex. The trip with
me was her idea.
Speaker 5 (01:06:41):
Maybe she wants you, but needs to make sure that
with other guys she doesn't want that. She would like
to do the activity with you by checking with the
other guys first and then do them with you. That's
what I think.
Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
I'm going to say this right now. She's but also
o piece for falling for this many times. This seems
like it happened more than three times, where it's like
he's like this happened countless times. It's the same emotions
over and over again. So you're kind of enabling her
and following her in her footsteps. She's treating you like
a little puppy. The worst part is both of our
families really did love us together. My parents were never
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rude to my girlfriends, But what asked me how ex
friend is doing these days? Or Snyder remarks about how
her parents miss me. Heck, even my now father in
law at one point mentioned that X's dad brought up
how he really thought I'd be his son one day.
I confide it in my friends years ago that I'm
always just a rebound or backup plan, and that's why
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I can never commit or get more physical with her.
They told me just to sleep with her when she
comes calling, and don't pursue anything more. No, don't do that.
The problem was I wanted more but felt used. Anyways,
every time we would plan things out where spicy sleep
was more than likely on the table, I'd see a
guy message her and or I'd see a post on
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social media, and it just ruined my enthusiasm. When I
say that, I mean literally it crushed my confidence every
single time. Again, like I said, you're like her little
puppy dog. She just wants you as a little lap
dog and just like, oh yeah, let me play with
you for a little bit. No, don't give her the satisfaction.
Don't keep doing it. But it seems like, oh, he
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keeps doing it. One of my best friends told me
I didn't have to pay attention to all of that
nonsense and could have just had my fun with her. Also,
don't do that. Didn't mean I had to chase a
relationship with knowing I was always a rebound that felt
crappy to me. I had other girlfriends here and there,
but I wanted this girl. We just clicked, you know.
But it's like some sort of god dang mystical being
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was showing me a sign every single time things were
going to progress our relationship. So every time he was like,
oh I should do this, a guy's messaging her, or
like he sees like, oh, she just broke up with someone,
but like there's something something, It's always something. I just
didn't want her to be getting over someone else or
having someone on a back burner when we'd reconnect, and
that's what she does. She sees you as her plan
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B or C.
Speaker 5 (01:09:01):
Yeah you're not second choice, buddy.
Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Your first choice.
Speaker 5 (01:09:04):
I think she likes to do this thing where she's
always going after her next guy. So whenever she's with you,
she's always after her next guy.
Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
She has you in like her back pocket. Whenever he's like,
oh that's speed dial, like oh I need you, like
I just need comfort, I need a motion, I need
someone to talk to.
Speaker 5 (01:09:18):
She's after her next guy, calling me her next guy.
Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
And guess what, op he's feeding into it. Every single
time I think he wants to be her friend, but
also he's like, I really like you, I really like her.
Speaker 5 (01:09:27):
That's the one I need to see a picture of
these people. That's what I need.
Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Yeah, maybe she's just super hot. Maybe that's my own insecurity,
but I know how I felt, and it didn't feel good.
So I slowly distanced myself. After a short amount of
time passed, I met my wife, she met her husband,
and our lives moved on with little to no contact
until the other day. I haven't responded to the messages
and it's been two days. I was thinking of just
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lying and saying it's not her fault, or just not responding,
but my wife is insisting I tell her the whole thing.
I know this is a word wall, but I'm on conflicted.
Why are you conflicted? You are married and you have children.
She is married and she has children.
Speaker 5 (01:10:07):
I mean, if your wife's excited about this, she can
like type up a message and send it for you.
Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
I mean I would just be like, yeah, ghosting her
is one thing.
Speaker 5 (01:10:13):
He's like, I'm done with this, Why are you doing this? Still?
Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
I don't think that's why he's conflicted.
Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
Ooh, he still has those like Dyleen.
Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
I told my wife I was going to ask others
for their opinion, and I'm considering the internet as my others.
We have some relevant comments here the Taco life. Ope,
she's doing exactly the same thing she always did with you.
I would bet all the cash in my wallet if
you were able to look into her life. Her marriage
is crumbling or her husband isn't paying enough attention to her.
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You were the great white whale that got away, and
she is trying to test the water to see if
you're down to do the same old song and dance.
Now even more of a challenge since you have a
happy family and marriage. Don't engage with her. This sounds
exactly like the same cycle you described from your young
dad adulthood. Like I said, little puppy, what do you think?
Speaker 5 (01:11:03):
Yeah, just keep living life. I wouldn't respond.
Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
I wouldn't respond. I would tell her like, that's gross.
And if you keep pursuing, I'm gonna tell your husband.
Speaker 5 (01:11:10):
I'm a screenshot away from ruining your marriage. Please stop
talking to me.
Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
We have an update. Thank you everyone for your responses.
I decided to listen to the majority and responded to
ex friend, let's call her a Ava, let's call her Eva.
The response was well received, and we chatted the rest
of the week and met up on the weekend before Easter.
The short of it is, we're both leaving our partners.
Speaker 5 (01:11:33):
What dude, that was none of my bingo part.
Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Where's the referee?
Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
Like?
Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
No yellow flag? Ava and I are gonna try this
relationship again now that we completely open up to each
other about our true feeling. Thank you all for the
encouragement to do this. Couldn't have done it without you.
April fools, I would never I hate when they do that.
It really had us in the first half there they
always do, They're so good at that.
Speaker 5 (01:11:57):
And then we went to the cabins. This all bigfoot
in the Lautinus monster.
Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
And the aliens abducted us. The real update is pretty
anti clomactic. Unfortunately, I ended up just never resplying to Ava.
Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
It had already been five days by the time I
read through every response and decided just to let it go.
My wife was fine with that, but told me to
block her if she messages me again. Smart. We did
a couple Easter icons with different family members yesterday, including
at my father in law's. They have a decent sized
property and host quite a few people, so I wasn't
surprised to see non family members. I was, however, surprised
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when Ava's parents were there with her children. After all
the adults scattered and hid the eggs. When the kids
started their search, Ava's dad came over to chat with me.
Nothing out of the ordinary, and we shot the craft
for a few minutes. By the way, you could shoot
the crap with us for more than a few minutes
because you can listen to full episodes with stories just
like this. Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcast, or your
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favorite podcast app and search. Okay, storytime, there is a
little bit more to this. But what do you think
was that the right thing to go to?
Speaker 5 (01:13:00):
Yeah? It was. It was Okay, he's already done, Tom
and tell me again. He's married now, in a committed relationship.
Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
He really had me with that. I was like, oh, no,
I hate when you people do that, but like it's fun.
Speaker 5 (01:13:11):
I should have called it. I should have been like, yeah,
that happened to me once before.
Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
No, you did the right thing, you have a family,
you're happy. Good on you. This never happens. But Opie
communicated this with his wife that is true. He was like, look,
and she was like, okay, well, what do you do
about it? You have my full support.
Speaker 5 (01:13:26):
True.
Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
But back to the story. Towards the end, I asked
if the kids were staying with them for Easter, and
he basically told me Ava and her husband were having
some troubles and they needed some time alone to sort
things out.
Speaker 5 (01:13:37):
Who would have called it?
Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
We're not shocked here. He didn't go into specifics, so
I don't know exactly what the troubles were, but congratulations
to those of you who called that one. For now,
this should conclude the story. If she does happen to
reach out again and I feel it's worth letting you
all know, then I will Otherwise thank you again. We
have a one more elevant comment and it's the same person,
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the talc of Life. Oh my god, I knew it.
I called this on the original post, that she and
her husband were having trouble and she was just trying
to get the same old ego boost slash even more
of one, because you are clearly very happily married. Congrats
on the baby, by the way, Op, you win the
Reddit gold Star of the Month for handling this like
a god dang hero, excellent husband, and your wife is
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an awesome teammate slash bad but herself. Good job, Op.
She clearly just needed some attention, and even though you
were married, had moved on and she'd be a home wrecker,
she didn't care, even asking why didn't you want me?
WAW after ten freaking years. This is obviously fishing for
compliments and an ego boost, especially since she was the
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reason you never worked out. Maddening. You did the right
thing one hundred percent edit spelling error that annoyed me,
OP says, thank you. I know it's on the original post.
You talked about it possibly being competitive. My wife said
the same based on her reaction to the pregnancy news,
either competitive or possibly fertility issues after two children. To
be honest, she's put a lot more thought into reasoning
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than I have. And that's the end of that story.
Speaker 5 (01:15:01):
That's a good teamwork right there.
Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
I like this good job, you did the right thing,
congrats
Speaker 5 (01:15:06):
And that's it for that story.