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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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My girlfriend wants us to date her best friend. I'm
kind of considering it.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
I mean as a sweet deal.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
I've been dating my girlfriend Jenna for a little over
two years. Things in the relationship have always been great,
little hiccup here and there, but just the usual stupid
couple fights for dumb stuff that aren't that bad in
the band in the grand scheme of things. By the way,
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(00:47):
So I write it. So. Jenna has a friend Mia
that she's been bff's with since they came roommates freshman
year of college. They are practically inseparable and everyone thinks
they're sisters because they look very simil Aside from hair color,
they're really close, ridiculously close. Even apparently when they were
in college they did this whole expeerimentation thing with each other.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Oh, like they like put like goo in a test
tube and then mixed it with like.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
You know, did like a baking soda volcano.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
You know, the weird science. Weird science.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Anyway, Yeah, Jenna was very upfront with me about this
when we first started dating. They are both very attractive,
and the idea of them doing what she talked about
only turned me on to her more.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Oh, they're electrical engineers. That's why I turned on like
a light switch.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Well, Jenna and I have been sawid in the past
two years. Mia hasn't been as lucky. She's dated about
six guys since Jenna and I have been together, all
varying from generally good guys to dirt pickles. She was
one of those girls who just couldn't stay single. Since
I've known her. She take a few weeks at most

(02:01):
between relationships and then move on to the next one.
That was until the most recent breakup about three months ago.
Since then, she has been by herself, trying to figure
things out on her own. That's good what we like,
you know, take time to understand who you want to
be with help from my girlfriend and a little bit
from me as well. Right before Thanksgiving break, we all
went out to a bar to relax. Put I see

(02:23):
you in the comments, if you see what's coming.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
I mean, they're probably just gonna talk about their electrical undertuties. Yeah,
anatomy studies.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well. At the bar, I noticed that Mia was a
little more handsy with me than usual. Jenna didn't seem
to mind at all, though I didn't really think too
much of it, just that Mia was a bit more
wasted than either of us, so I ignored it, not
wanting to dampen the mood. I'm sure he didn't want
to damp in that mood. We eventually left and went
back to MEA's apartment because it was when within walking

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distance of the bar.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
It sounds like someone's mood's already a little damp.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
He got there. We stayed up a bit longer and
the booze lowered everyone's inhibitions, and the topic of spicy
sleep came up. This is when Mia and Jenna started
to talk about their early college experiments in front of me.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
And that was just totally random, lol, random, totally lolxd
random and inspire something.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
While Jenna had told me things had happened, it was
very matter of fact and straight at the point, no details.
This is the first time I got the whole story,
and holy crap, was I turned on.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Op's building circuitry like like a madman.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
It was. I mean, hey, that's what they're talking about,
the science experiments. You know, little little circuit boards. Yeah,
oh yeah, oh yeah, oh put those circuits in parallel
or in series.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Right ac DC, That's all me.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I want. I want that capacitor right there. You mean
they got diode transistor. I'm like, I'm pulling all of
my electrical engineering knowledge, which is not much. This is
the deer Penthouse. So I won't go into details of
what they said. And no, the three of us did

(04:13):
not get into anything that night. However, when Jen and
I went to bed, he brought up the idea of
bringing Mia into the bedroom in the near future, seeing
as my pants were still tight from earlier. My goodness, OPI,
you are one little horn dog.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Tight pants because of all the electricity.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
All the food he ate beforehand. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Also, the something you don't know about electricians is their
pants tighten like a canarian a coal mine. So there's
too much electricity going on their pants cinch up and
like like you know the canary in the coal mine
that stops chirping when there's too much gas and it's dangerous.
Of course, of course, of course, of course I.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Agreed enthusiastically about bringing Jenna into the bedroom we have.
I actually went to sleep over the next week. Jenna
began bringing up hints about me, how pretty I think
she is, if things would be weird, etcetera, just gauging
my interest lamp. While I was still very interested. With
the booze out of my system and blood back in
my brain, I was a bit more hesitant to pursue

(05:18):
the potential minage in fear of ruining what Jenna and
I have, or even what Mia and Jenna have. Yeah,
when I voiced these concerns, she dropped the bomb gel
on me. She had been talking with Mia lately about
all of us dating.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
See now all of you dating pause, right, very different
than all of you in the same room at the
same time.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
That is one night, you know, maybe even you know,
a couple hours if you're if you're up for that
kind of thing. And uh, that's that's much different than
getting adding a third a polycule is different than a
than a three night stand.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, this is like having a party versus starting a business. Yes,
one is just sort of an event. The other is
like a lifestyle, and I don't think Op is ready
for that. Also, like I feel like it needs to.
It seems like she's been so she's been pitching, like
me and Jenna have been talking about dating. I feel
like Ope should have been talked about with that, like

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that information sooner. I feel like that that should have
been a conversation between Op and his girlfriend instead of
a conversation between these I just assuming, like he's a guy,
he'll be down, yeah, which is like not true.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
That's not true. That's not true.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
I would not I would not be down for that.
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
I feel like that. I think I'm like maybe like
guys would be down with it in theory, but like
confronted with the reality of that situation. I think as
a meme, as.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
A guys are down for use, but like when it's
real life, it's like that's a lot of work, Okay. Yeah,
first of all, yikes, Yeah, oh wow, I've got so
much work to do.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, Sony flowers to get.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
That's for me, Like it's just not something i'd probably
ever do because there's just too many potential avenues of pain.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, I mean Wildberry in the chat says how to
ruin your relationship one oh one, And I think while
this won't always ruin a relationship, I do think it
complicates a relationship and it should be a trodden with
extra care because this this kind of this kind of thing,
it's kind of it's changed in the dynamic of your

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whole relationship, right, Like this is houses can be stressful
in a relationship. Adding a third person, that's like, that's
a whole new thing.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Well the other it's like it feels like y'all two
were talking about dating each other and then it was like, yeah,
my husband will also join in. Yeah, that's the vibe exactly.
So it's like he feels you really want to be right,
It's like, who do you really want?

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, like we got more to this story. Who said
I don't want to disappoint two women at the same time.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
That croll up, scroll up, scroll up, Shamus shamous James says,
I don't want to disappoint too with it at this
day of day. That's just Pete Davidson secretly in our comments.
But funny, that was funny.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
I was obviously confused. My first reaction was, you're joking right,
and then are you testing me? But but she but
sured me.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
But she ensured she Now you got to say, but
she ass sured me, you gotta really hit it.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
But she assured me that she wasn't. She was a
very upfront person, has never done anything like that before,
So I believed her. I then asked her if our
relationship wasn't enough for her, if this meant she wanted
to date other people, and she again very vehemently denied
those concerns of mine. She said it would strictly be me,
her and Mia. For reasoning was Jenna absolutely loves and
adores Mia. Jenna is spicy relatedly attracted to both me

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and Mia. Mia is spicy relatedly attracted to both me
and Jenna. In Jenna's mind, it's having your cake and
eating it too.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Oh so, our new word for that is spiceuality visuality.
Oh yes, spicuality attracted.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
To Okay, I will use that from now on. Yeah.
She did not force these wishes on me. She just
brought up the possibility that it could happen. I asked
where all this came from, And here's what I got
out of her. Mia had brought up the idea of
a three way to Jenna, and Jenna thought it would
be fun. That's why Mia was extra flirty with me.
That one night, when Jenna got back to Me's apartment,
she started thinking about how she truly has feelings for

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both the people in the room, and that she couldn't
differentiate between the love he has for both of us.
It wasn't a very recent feeling either. He'd been battling
it for a while, and that night she talked about
those things that she did with Mia and it brought
all the feelings back that she was unsure of. As
it so happened, Mia had been harboring those same feelings
and had the same type of epiphany and sought out

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Jenna to talk to her. At some point this week,
Mia told Jenna her feelings about both of us, and
Jenna admitted she felt the same way about her. He
told Mia he would speak to me about it. Jenna
did not pressure me with the decision, and there was
no behind any of her words. If anything, she was
very gentle to make sure I wasn't upset. I was
concerned that the three of us dating would just be
stepping stone to slowly phase me out of the relationship.

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Without breaking up with me. I told her, if that
were the case, then she should just end things now.
She swore up and down that this was not the case,
and even cried a little. She said that she loves
me and doesn't want to lose me, but also loves me.
I feel like a valid concern, you know, like I
feel like a lot of people can start polycules because
they have feelings for another person but don't necessarily want

(10:32):
to disappoint the person that they're with. I don't think
that's maybe a lot of people is an overstatement, but
we've read stories about that before.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
I can't speak to any certainty of like the mind
state of people who are actively like pop.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yes, I really I could never or the poly people
in the chat would love to hear from you. Does
this feel kosher?

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Well, my question to Jenna, if I'm ope, my question
would be, are do you love Mia or do you
lust Mia?

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I think she loves Mia, because I think she also
I think she loves Mia. It sounds like what she
was saying is like I was looking obviously, I was like,
you know, Spice sculily attracted to Mia. But then I
realized that the two people in the room I actually
feel the same love for both of them, and so
it is love. It's not just lust.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Dang. So if I'm her part, I'm ope she's like
I'm in love with Mia, but I'm like, I'm not
in love with Mia. Though now I'm in a weird spot.
I have to either be okay with the woman I
love also being in a like in love with someone
else Jenna.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Jenna is like the meat in the middle, and she
now has two relationships. I feel like what would happen
is Mia and Opee would need to build their own
love sandwich ships if it would if it would work.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
A sandwich like, yeah, Opie's a piece of bread, Mia
is the meat and.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Jenna or no, Jenna's meet me as the other piece
of bread, other sandwich.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
I think I like sandwiches. I think my instinct here
is that if this happens fundamentally, like the relationship is done,
is going to break. I think because that well, Pe
doesn't have that connection to me. If it was like
a hey, like, let's do this thing casually, It's like

(12:23):
maybe that could work. It'll probably still get messy, but
maybe it'll work. But if it's like I'm in love
with this other person and we should all be in
love together. I don't think you can just force that. Yeah,
you can't white knuckle like just becoming in love with
someone because it's it's what would make sense in a situation.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
And I want to shout out Haven who said, as
someone who's been polyamorous for six years, I think choosing
to be Poullie because you found someone you like is
the wrong reason. I think it should be because you
want to be Pollie in general. And I think that
is the thing is like, I think starting a relationship
as a poly relationship is easier than converting a monogamous

(13:06):
relationship to a poly one. And Catarine says, who brought
up the phasing out idea, that's what confused me. OPI
is worried about being phased out, which is true.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Because the comment above that be Hope arts is like,
why is the girlfriend having these conversations with me before
having them with OP? You talk to your partner about
this before the potential new partner, It's like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
I think it just came I think it just came up.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Well, it's no, it's it really does feel like it
was like a you know, well, we'll kind of already
hammer it out on our end, so once we bring
it to him, it'll just be like a, well, we
already did this thing. We've already decided that we should
do this, so you want to do it.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Too, right, yeah? I which, Yeah, I'm curious what everyone
thinks in the comments, but I'm going to keep going
and see if we can get some more context.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
There's a lot of meat. There's a lot of meat on.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I want to know if you think does this poly
q will have a happy end?

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yes? And no?

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Do you think Opie will develop feeling for me or not?
Yes or no?

Speaker 1 (14:02):
I feel like we shouldn't have done this is what
he's gonna develop.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
We'll put up a poll and you let us know
we got We're barely like a fifth through this story,
so we got a lot, a lot of more juice
to squeeze. So I said that it kind of sounds
like she wants Mia and I to only date her,
but she said that Mia wants to date both of us.
So again, it wouldn't just be a sandwich. It would
be a little little love triangle. Everyone everyone's connected to

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each other. Mia has really grown fond of me over
these two years, and allegedly really wants someone to treat
her the way I treat Jenna, but that takes time.
Man's gonna have a full overtime job taking care of
both these women like he takes care of Jenna.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
If you're gonna have a real partner and a fake partner,
you can't. What do you like? What do you like?
Listen to yourself, bro, listen to yourself.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Bro, there's a tall order. Jelly Buss says, you're.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Like, she wants like a loving partner, so I'll role
play is one.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
The Tomlitz says Polly person here. My boyfriend is also Polly.
He's in two relationships. I'm not involved with his other
girlfriend Dave as a friend, but I was probably before
I met him. He was not what was accepting. I
guess that's an example of someone who uh, someone who
didn't heep Polly and converted. So maybe it's working out.
I said I needed time to think about it, and
she's given me my space. But I'm pretty sure she

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wants to answer soon. Here's the kicker. I've been researching
engagement rings for about a month now.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Oh all right, this is not gonna work. Oh not
gonna work. This ain't working. You are so on the
opposite side of the ideological field.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
I was ready to make Jenna my wife, and then
this was thrown at me. Jenna, of course, is unaware,
and I haven't purchased a ring yet, but I planned.
I'm buying one student proposing around New Year's so here
I am. I don't have any issues with me uh heck.
I love her myself, just not the same way that
Jenna does. Of course I find her attractive. They both are,

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and I genuinely enjoy hanging out with her when Jenna
isn't around. He's grown into one of my best friends.
But I've seen how she is in relationships and how
all of hers have progressed. Maybe things have changed in
the three month window and she's finally found peace within herself.
I really don't know. I just have no idea how
polly relationships work, and I have no idea what to do.
I was ready to make Jenna my wife, but she

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wants us all to be together as one big, happy family.
I don't have a specific question because I don't know
what the heck I'm going to do, because I'm so
dank confused right now. On the one hand, and I'm
sorry if this sounds tactless and shallow. Two very attractive
women are into me and both want to have spicy
sleep with me at the same time, and that is
just fantastic. On the other hand, I'm happy with where

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Jenna and I are and was slash am ready to
marry her. What is my next step? How do I
move forward with this? There is an edit? There are
many dick juicy dates, but Dakota chat, what do you
think is the move forward? And also looking at the

(17:06):
votes right now, it looks like past me that twenty
three percent of people are saying it could have a
happy ending, seventy seven percent are not. OPI is definitely
not not on the on the same page as everyone else.
H yeah Yeahgaira Areas says this is not going to
work at all, wild Berryer, They're on very different pages.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
This is the thing. Do we remember the backstory we
got on Mia at the beginning? Yeah, she she is
chronically in a relationship, chronically not single, and all's are
OPI goes, I've seen how she is in relationships and
how all of hers have progressed, So you know, you know,

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without a shred of doubt, how that's going to play out.
You think that her solution is that she's just not
had enough on her plate in the relationship she's been in.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, very much doubt that. Yeah. I mean, if she's
bad at relationships with one people, I mean, battling and
working with the desires of two people is just so
is so difficult. And maybe it would be different if
she had a long history of very happy, beautiful relationships,
but that is just not the case.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Well fundamentally, OPI is like, you're just nowhere near where
they are. I think you're like I was ready to, like,
you know, do the thing where we get married and
then it's just me and you forever. I was ready
for that, And now you didn't even bring this to me,
You like set this up without me. Also, now I'm
either have to be the good guy or the bad guy.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Miss Boozy says Polly relationships require constant conversation to ensure
everyone is on the same page. I would probably be
into Polly, but it sounds like so much work. I
can barely handle one partner. Yeah, it is, it is.
I feel like poly relationships need more communication than just
monogamous relationships. OPI and friend haven't had any romantic interactions
as far as you know, how could she know she

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wants to be in a relationship with them exactly? That's
what I.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Don't just about to say. It doesn't have any clarity.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
I think if you were, I think, honestly, if I was,
if if we were, if you were trying to have
the best chance of this working out, you should just,
like I feel like they should all just hook up
a couple of times and then see how they feel
and just like naturally progress the relationship a step forward
us And I don't know if like, if you're trying
to make a little polycule.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
If you're going from zero one hundred, I just I
don't know. It sounds like a terrible idea. I would say,
don't do this. But so we got an edit. Yeah,
so we had a long.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Talk tonight with Jenna, then Mia and Janet. Tonight. When
I get a chance, I'll write an update, but it
won't be short. Oh, here we go. Here is the update.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Here it is folks.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Hey, it's Sam, your og host.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Here.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
We're going to get back to the stories. But here's
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seriously awesome and ridiculously helpful, understanding and encouraging. So I
called Jenna and told her I wanted to talk with
her one on one and then with both her and

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Mia later, and she agreed. She came to my apartment
and I got right into it. I had a list
of things I wanted to say. It was very long,
a couple of pages. I ran down my list of
questions and she gave me answers. Most of them were
for clarification, the others were for expectations. She isn't the
best with her words, so I found myself helping her
better articulate what her feelings were and the points that

(20:25):
she was trying to get across. And here are some
the highlight. I did not tell her I'd been looking
at rings. A person mentioned that that might almost be
a manipulative way to get my point across, and that wasn'tnecessary.
She does not know about it, and I don't think
I will tell her about that until much much later.
If ever, I did not ask about what would happen

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if I said I didn't want to give this whole
thing a shot, because I've reached the conclusion that I do,
or if he wants to give it a shot. I
don't need to know what could have happened. I just
need to know what will happen and what to expect.
Sorry to disappoint those who are interested.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
I like how he said that, like there's like a guarantee.
I just need to know what exactly is going to happen. Like, dude,
you don't know, like it's either going to be like
I guess you spend the rest of your life with
these two people.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Well we would. I don't think Jenna's asking to marry
the polycule. She's just asking to date. So it's not
a rest of the life thing. Could well, it could
it could be, could be could be a triples how
those things start. But I I think I think it's
it's a little less uh less intense. I get asked

(21:37):
if I was not enough for her. It was a
basic insecurity question that I needed to answer for. We
reached the conclusion that there was no less love for
me or our relationship. She just has a ton of
love to give out and point blank. I asked her
had they had any at any point fooled around behind
my back? Was there any cheating? Her response was no.

(21:58):
I believe her awful liar, and I would have been
able to tell the only time they did stuff was
during wasted makeout sessions in front of me while at parties.
I was okay with that.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
I can I give that to them.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
I told her how confused I was about the entire thing.
She understood she was too. I asked her what her
expectations were for this entire thing. She said, ultimately, he
wants everyone to be happy with each other and for
us all to date one another. I told her it
was not a reasonable expectation at first because of the
dynamic of me and my friendship at this point in
a relationship, beause they don't really like they just know

(22:33):
each other as like friends.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
They don't love each other like that. Yeah, yeah, they
love each other like uh, I told you, platonic.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Love, yeah, brotherly potoga Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
I couldn't think of any examples that wouldn't sound wrong, though.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
I told her about the V dynamic, and she said
it sounded like a good starting point. I guess the
v dynamic. Is Jenna having a relationship with Op and
Mia but that not did Mia and Op.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
If you need to build graphs for this, if you
need to make charts and visual aids for this, I'd
be a little more complicated than what you're looking for.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Buddy, Gladie toastays, I feel like they should go on
individual dates with the third to see if there's even
feels there. I think the girlfriend is romanticizing the old hookup.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
I just think this is crazy that there was that
comment that's like, don't tell her you were buying the
ring because that's manipulative. It's like, why, I don't think
you need to tell her that you're buying the ring,
but you are, like genuinely, like in a place where
you were ready to settle and commit to one person,
and she's telling you she wants the exact opposite of that,

(23:41):
so you should let her know. Hey, I'm very far
away from where you're at. I was, I am nowhere
there close to where you're at.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Naturally, I feel like he kind of got quickly over
he said he is.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
I mean, how really? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
I asked her how she would feel if I were
on a date with Mia while she was not around,
so you applied I would be turned on electricians. Then
we went off on a tangent about spicy sleep. I
got a boner and I found out that my girlfriend
has a thing for that stuff, which I'm totally okay with.
But I told her that being horny about it is
all well and good. I just needed her to be

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happy for us if Mia and my relationship blossom. You
looked at me like a goofball and said, with a smile,
of course, I'd be thrilled if that were to happen.
There's some other stuff that we talked about that I
can't think of off the top of my head. And if
you want to know, and I asked, I'll tell you.
After we got all that crap out in the open,
we called me over I had a group session about everything.
So now we're getting to the group it seems like

(24:37):
OP is on board.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
I don't know, I'm not buying it. I feel like
Ope's convinced themselves to be on board.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
I think it's cool and hot and everything that they're all,
you know, all talking about good old romps in the sack,
But it feels like the conversation is like very centered
around like spicy sleep, yes, and not as much about
you know, a loving relationship, dating dynamic. And I'm like, like,

(25:05):
is the whole is it just? Is it lust? And
then now I'm asked and now I'm wondering, like is
it lester love?

Speaker 1 (25:11):
That was my whole question? Is it feels very like,
oh my god, I remember when we did that crazy thing.
It's like, yeah, that was so crazy.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
It's like I think, maybe, yeah, yeah, are you sure?

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Are you really is it love?

Speaker 2 (25:23):
But miss Jaber said, at least they're communicating that is true.
We love that, we love that. When Mia came over,
she was a bit more shy than normal because I
think she was a little shamed and embarrassed about the
possibility of coming between me and Jenna.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Well, isn't that exactly what you guys want?

Speaker 2 (25:38):
I reassured her that we were okay and we're ready
to move forward. She started beaming. I went over a
lot of the same stuff that I did with Jenna,
so I won't repeat it, but we all did some
talk about some aspects of everything we define the boundaries
of if anyone else was allowed in our little group,
Jenna said that she only felt the way she does
about me and Mia, and I said I wasn't interested
in anyone else, and said she wasn't interested in anyone else.

(26:02):
Do the parameters have been set and the outside interference
was defined as cheating? This is what the polycule is.
I'm still worried about MIA's past relationship history affecting this relationship,
but it seems like everything's kind of going okay.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
This is not gonna go well.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Cassona says, I think the physical attraction is marring the
romance aspect of the relationship. I do agree, but it's
me not. He says it's a good start. I think
it is.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
I think it is a good start. Here There's still more.
There's still more, There's a lot more. It is my
quick breakdown. Mia doesn't know what she wants. She just
know what she doesn't want, which is being single. Op
is trying to white knuckle and logic their way into
being cool with the like multiple the poly situation, yep,

(26:48):
which is you can't do that. And honestly, all of
this started from an actual lie or at least deception
because the partner, Jenna, set all of this up alone,
which you can do.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
I so I would give a maybe maybe I'm a
little bit on the other side. I think I would
give a little more grace just because it seemed like
it was a sudden realization of like feelings. But I
do feel like Op and Jenna should have had the

(27:22):
like Jenna should have said, hey, I realize I have
feelings for me. Yea, like when I talk to you
about it, and I think then should have gone to me.
And so, Yeah, I do agree that it is a
little bit of a It does feel like it hurts
a little bit the integrity of the main relationship.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, it forces Op into a corner.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, let me know if you you agree, I would say,
I would say it's it started a little bit rough. Yeah,
but it does feel like they're communicating well now.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, but the energy is so different when between life
starts like between like hey, here's this thing I'm feeling now,
like how what do you think about it? And versus
like hey, here's this thing we've got going on. Are
you gonna let it happen? Or are you gonna shoot
it down? Now? Now you're in a position where it's like, well,
I either have to be yeah, you know, creating. I

(28:09):
have to either rain on everyone's parade or I can, like,
you know, be the cool cool guy.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
I wish they were co creating this new Facebook relationship,
and it feels like she's present, presenting and already thought
out of option. We decided that spicy sleep should be
off limits for the time being, and they seemed both
surprised and bummed out about that, but understood when I
explained that we were basically starting a new relationship. It
didn't matter how long we all knew each other. This
is the start of something new, and spicy sleep with

(28:36):
your partner isn't something you dive into right away until
all parties are one hundred percent comfortable with it. This
included threesomes for the time being. I am weader, blocking
myself and confusing my bon but it's the right thing
to do. I told them about the research I had
done in the books that I had found which were
suggested to be by redditors. What are these books? What
are these books? How reading them? What are the.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Book from doctor Boner How to unconfuse your Boner?

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Random thing here? Christmas gifts will be a joint effort
by two people for the other one that's around.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
They're planning Christmas now, shut up, dude, this is way
too much. I kind of like this. You can't Christmas.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
I think it's cute.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Stop it.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Casey Leaf says, God too, polycules. This will save money
slash allow for better gifts, so instead of getting two presents,
we all get one.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Dumb this is crazy. This is crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
I think it's cute.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
This is crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
We spoke about how honesty is the number one priority
in a relationship if it is going to work, honesty
with ourselves, each other, jealousy, our emotions, and feelings. Honesty
is the only way or war. Jenna is on a
time share with us at the moment, but not really.
We aren't defining when either of us gets her throughout
the year. She's not a beach house, but we will

(29:58):
be conscious of what is going on on as to
not let anyone feel left out. Okay, so they're like
basically ensuring that everyone gets time with each other so
no one feels out left out because like when you're
like when you're when you're managing relationships with multiple people
like you, you gotta you gotta make sure everyone has
a little time. Sat as a Sam is in his

(30:18):
love face, can't see all the red flags This is just.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Not going to work. It's just not gonna work. It's
impossible because it didn't start with that.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
You look, Oh, dude, I guess. But the best Polly
book out there is called The Ethical Slut. I at
the I was dating this girl who was reading that
and was telling me about it because she was trying
to be a therapist for Polly relationships.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
And I have nothing funny to say about it. I
have nothing funny. I have nothing that could maybe be
an off colored remark to say about that. I've only
got squeaky clean. The bald man is in my head
cleaning the floors. That's how clean it is up there.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Right now, it seems like all three of us are
on the same page, and that the idea of the
other person with the other person turns them on and
does not make them jealous. Great, I suppose that's a
good thing. Again, this isn't everything. Just the tip of
the iceberg. I probably talk with Jenna than Jenna and
Mia for like eight hours, and I'm spent. While the

(31:25):
Jename and Jenemia aspects of the relationships are solid, the
me and me aspect needs to be established from the beginning.
I brought up how I only saw her as my
girlfriend's friend, but find her attractive. Jenna suggested me and
I go on a date with each other. I was
hesitant to jump in so quickly, but they both encourage
me to do so. And now I have a date
with my girlfriend's girlfriend tomorrow night, and I'm incredibly nervous.

(31:49):
I really want it to work because it would make
our lives that much easier. We will have plenty to
talk about. So now, excuse me, what did you just say?
My girlfriend's girlfriend, Lisa Prett says, let him cook. I
really is that they're talking. I really hope it works
out for dummies. O P thinks this is gonna make

(32:11):
their lives easier. Slyly Toe says, sometimes the best throattles
just happen. Three people just click. Everyone is comfortable.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Right. That doesn't sound like this is what's happening. They're
having to plan Christmas, and they're planning Christmas ahead of
time so that no one gets jealous. Like they're the
chimpanzees in the cage seeing like one chimp get more
cake than the other. What are we talking about? I
just love that crazy Yeah, man, he's got them all.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Whoa Pauli's cure.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
One's just going to be the giving tree.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
This is for you to count it. I think this
is yours.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, dude, you gotta get more comfortable with it. You
got to relax. You're so tense. Come over here, you
get sausages. Yeah, Ka will get one shoulder, I'll get
the other. No, you can be our little bread in
the middle, our little little Salabbie.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Oh, I don't have to. I'll have to really stew
on that. Like how it's me nan, He says. My
brain's breaking on the wrong thing because I keep bringing
up planning Christmas.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Christmas.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
It just feels like a dude, get the gift for
the person that you think they would like. Why are
we planning?

Speaker 2 (33:16):
So now I have a date Monday evening with the
girl who I never thought i'd date, and it's for
reasons I never thought were possible. And my fantay football
teams are letting me down right now. Like I said earlier,
if you have questions, I'll do my best to answer them.
We got comments and we have more updates. This is
we are not even halfway through. We are going to

(33:37):
see this relationship unfold right now. The only important question
Ohpee is what do you want? What is it?

Speaker 1 (33:45):
What do you want?

Speaker 2 (33:47):
I think oh PE's want of this. I think he's down.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
I still don't believe it.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
You just didn't know what's possible. It's like it it's
like you know you you don't even like like he is.
He has opened up to the idea that oh wow,
like like like he didn't even realize he didn't. Really,
it's kind of like breaking the formute mile lot.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
That's what I'm saying. It's he's logicing it.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Once someone broke the for minute mile, people are like
breaking it left and right because they knew it was possible.
You didn't even know it was possible.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah, but this isn't a four minute mile. That's like
a that's like a breaking the boundaries of like human
physical limits, like this is this is one just.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Agrees of what the relationships could be.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
But look, my partners, like I'm I love me and
we love each other and we're in love. We want
to love all of us want to be in love together. Yeah,
And you're like, that's just my homie. But you're like,
I guess I.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Could because he didn't even Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
I guess I could get there it's just you can't
logic it. You can't be like, hmmm.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
All right, I want I want an update on our poll.
Do you think this is going to have a happy ending?
Yes or no? Before we were at twenty two percent
saying happy ending, seventy seven percent or seventy eight percent
saying uh uh, it was not gonna have a happy ending.
Let us let's let's have a little vote and to
get into the comments and the update. So comments comment

(35:03):
one one question is what if you don't feel it
with MEA? I mean, sure you're attracted her, but what
if after a couple of dates you're not interested with her?
How would Jenna take it? Would she still want to
be with you? But I suppose you can cross that
path when slash if you come to it, I'll keep
an eye out for updates. So not my tip situation
I'd run if it were suggested. This is the commenter

(35:24):
saying it, but I'm interested to see how it plays out.
And OPI responds, I think then it would just be
a v type relationship where we'd each date her individually.
So basically Op wouldn't have a relationship with Mia, but
Mia that Jenna would have a relationship with Mia and
Op okay, So it's like, if Op isn't feeling it,
look then he just has a relationship with Jenna.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
And I think, if that's what you're if you're cool
with that arrangement, you should just do that right away.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Don't even and it looks like things haven't changed. People
are still thinking. Twenty four percent are thinking the happy
ending U seventy seven percent sad ending Let's see what happens.
So if you you don't feel it with me, and
this is a concert replying, she will just be dating
your girlfriend. So what do you get out of this
whole thing? Then? I mean, if you're not dating her,
does that mean no threesomes? If you end in a

(36:10):
V relationship, then you will basically have what you had
with your girlfriend, except you'll be seeing someone else as
well as you. In that case, your girlfriend will half
her cake and eat it too, and you'll have what
exactly you could end up the third wheel in your
own relationship. Opie responds, I hope I didn't come off
as pretentious my other posts. I reread what I wrote,
and I might come off as douchey. I know, I apologize,

(36:32):
but right now I just to put faith into me
and Jenna that they won't screw me figuratively out of
the relationship. Communication is key in any relationship, but even
more so in these it seems. I think it really
just depends on your mindsetting these things. I'm going to
try to be happy with Jenna and MIA's happiness, and
Mia is already happy with mine. In Jenna's there's a
lot of trust being thrown around right now, and I'm

(36:52):
sure to outsiders it's kind of like, what the f bro,
she borderline cheated on you, bro. But I don't have
that same outlook as everyone else. And there's another commenter.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
The weird thing that's getting me is it feels like, oh,
he's talking about like, well, so I haven't drank orange
juice with pulp before, but people tell me it's a
nice alternative. It's like, this is a much bigger thing
than I think.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
You're making it for someone who is. I mean, I
think what is happening is like, you're risking, You're risking
the relationship. You are risking the relationship. But maybe if
he didn't allow Jenna to see Mia, that would also
be a risk to the relationship, and so allowing the
relationship to change is like the at least the possibility
to change is what preserves the potential of it continuing continuing.

(37:40):
This was just a but a comment too. There's a
problem here. It looks like she is spicy relatedly turned
on by all this more than emotionally enjoying it. That's
what we said earlier. That's what we got earlier. Lustre's
is love by that. I think this will fail hard.
It feels like it's more about spicy sleep than anything.
I agree. I agree, everyone's talking about how hot each other,

(38:04):
how hot it is to have this setup, and not
how lovely it's going to be. Although they did talk
about Christmas presents, which I feel like is more on
the romance side than it is on the icy sleep side.
So I think there is some of it, But I
feel like there's a lot more talk about boners and
threesomes and there is about weddings and Christmas.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
And it's like, you know, they have more history, so
maybe they are. Look I'm seeing some comments there that's
saying like I just disagree with anything that I wouldn't do.
It's like, no, I just don't think Ope really wants
to date both of these women at the same time. Yeah,
I think op is trying to convince themselves that that
is a cool thing they'd like to do, when in reality,

(38:47):
it's it's something that they're like, I mean, oh whatever,
I've never thought that that would be a thing, but
I guess I'll give it a try.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
It's like, but I think that's how you I mean,
I think that's how you expand your world generally, right,
Like I think you know, I I didn't realize you
could travel the world like cheaply and affordably, but until
like an ex was like, well you can't do this
and you can explore.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
But he was about to marry her. He was he
was planning a proposal.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Yeah, if that.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Wasn't in there, I'd be like, maybe this is what
you want.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
But it was like, but I I think I think
it's worth there. But I think that's just because what
that's the image of what he thought the only the
only image of what he thought a future relationship could
look like.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Like.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
To belabor another metaphor would be like, you know, like
I studied engineering and thought I would be an engineer
and then realized that, like you could make silly videos
online and that's more fun and like that. I didn't
even realize that was a possibility for a life, which
is why I went to the engineering degree. My my my,
uh I guess the ring of my my corporate life

(39:56):
brain ring. Yeah, my little, my little, my little working ring.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Hmm.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Anyway, that's probably a bad metaphor. But you got an
update coming right up, Sam. Here, we're gonna get back
to the stories. But here's three of its bads from
our sponsors. The date happened, oh p and MEA's date. Okay,
this is the third that they're introducing into the relationship.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
So it's like we're gonna and we talked about the
coupons we got for Trader Joe's.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
But before it's gonna be yeah, okay, I spoke with
Jenna about any ground rule slash boundaries that needed to follow.
It basically came down to no spicy sleep, the time
being something we already established a few days ago. I
made sure that Jenna was perfectly content with what was happening,
and I also shook off some last minute insecurities. She
kept reassuring me that she was fine with everything and

(40:40):
that ultimately my happiness in my relationship with Mia would
make her so happy. So on to the date. I
was planning on using the date as a good way
to open up with some dialogue one on one with Mia,
something I had not done yet. I had spoken with
both her and Jenna together, but not Mia alone. This
was a good opportunity to get complete perspective from her
end and to figure out what's going on inside her head.

(41:02):
We had some time to kill before the movie, so
we hung out at her apartment for a little bit.
It was very awkward, really awkward. I had no idea
how to behave around her anymore. I'd been over at
her place a thousand times before, just her and I
hanging out, but this time was different, and we both
knew it. She finally made a joke about the elephant
in the room and we both kind of relaxed and

(41:25):
started talking more.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Fluidly, well kind of fluid.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
It was then we both opened up and gave each
other a little more outlook into our feelings and whatnot.
Right before it was time to head to the movie.
It was like we were friends again instead of two
people on an awkward date, which is nice. We saw
Interstellar because she hadn't seen it yet great movie, and
we both love movies. I had already seen it once
and needed to see it again because of that whole

(41:49):
ending thing. Halfway through the movie, she leaned her head
on my shoulder and cuddle up next to me. She
had done this in the past when we were watching
movies together on Netflix at home, but of course things
are different.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Now this is gonna go so freakin' bad.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
She eventually grabbed and held my hand, which was sweaty
from nerves and from the intensity of the movie. For
those of you who have seen the film, possibly spoilerhead,
but not really, but maybe when that one explosion happens
that you know is about to happen, but still managed
to scare the piss out of you, even if you've
already seen the dang thing. She shrieked and grabbed me
and buried her face in my chest. It was so cute.

(42:25):
Me and I are those people that talk about movies
after we see them. We had plenty to talk about
over dinner, which went, well.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
I'm sorry, did you try to imply that that's not
what people do after they see movies. You think they
just go, yeah, well, now we're done seeing that movie.
We should talk, go back to talking about stocks and
taxes and anything else besides the movie we just saw.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Are you a movie talker? Like in movie talking?

Speaker 1 (42:46):
I will if if people the people with me are
cool with it, I will.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
I love it. I love talking.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
It has to be a movie I've already seen them, yeah,
Or it has to be an absolutely trash movie like
I saw. I saw It's a terrible horror movie in
theaters with like a group of like five friends and
there was only one other person in the theater, and
so we were just eviscerating it the whole time.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
But to not go too far off topic. Yeah, let
us know, are you guys movie talkers or not? Put
us put the answers to the chat. After dinner, we
went to the nearby park to walk around, look at
Christmas lights, and talk more. It was really nice. We
really dove in deep about what was going on and
it was a great talk. And here are some highlights.

(43:29):
We talked about how our relationship started. I met Mia
and Jenna the same night at a friend's a mutual
friends party. I hit on both of them, not knowing
there were roommates at the time, but Mia was in
a relationship and Jenna wasn't. That's how my relationship with
them began. They apparently always got to laugh about it
and joked that I could have had my pick of
the two had Mia been single. Man. Man, it's a

(43:50):
regular casanova over here. We shared similar interests in movies,
physical activity, sports, etc. We've always talked about going to
the gym together. Now I think we might actually do. Dude,
I think this is going well. I think this is
going well.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Where this is? This is where I see this going.
Do you think it's going to the track I see
this going to. Now, you're gonna have two women fighting
over you because Mia is now going to you know,
the person who's iconically unable to be single, Yeah, who
like probably gets a lot of their value and self
worth from their relationships, is now going to split that

(44:23):
with another person. I don't think that's gonna go very
well for that.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
I think they don't realize how much they're going to
hate that.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
And women fighting over you is stressful.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
I uh, yeah, I would say that is probably the case.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yeah. Yeah, But like you're just Telly, You're just a
tough place to be.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
You're walking towards the edge of the volcano, brother, you're
just about to jump in.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
So we talked about her past relationships. Normally this is
a no no on a first date, I don't think.
So I talked about past relationships, of course with Ali,
my girlfriend, and we talked about it, actually mostly on
her relationships, but a little bit on my I think
it's great.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
You can't.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
You can do that. I don't think there's any problem
about talking about past relationships.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
But I've known her for so long and have always
kept my distance from her love life. She did not
seem to mind when she would break up with a guy.
Jenna was the one who would console her. I help
in any way I could, but not much as I
can do when her best friend is taking control of
the situation. So we touched on that. I told her
that I wasn't a fan of the majority of the
guy she had dated, and she nodded and agreed. She

(45:26):
talked to me about the problem she was having at
the time and how she was finally able to seek
out help a few months ago. That's what she had
been doing for the past four plus months. I was
mistaken in my original post, instead of saying three months
three months, he was working on herself. Something about her
was just different this evening. In contrast to how she
was in the past, she seemed more at peace with
who she was. I don't really know how else to

(45:48):
describe it. Whatever she's doing, it's working. Come on to Cony.
Gotta admit you, gotta admit it's kind of going well.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Being Like, Wow, I rehabbed my Achilles injury. I'm gonna
run third five miles NonStop now as hard as I can.
I'm gonna put myself in the most stress testing environment. Oh,
I've fixed my Oh, I've realigned my core values, and
I can better approach dating as a whole. Let's jump

(46:18):
into one of the hardest versions of dating.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Yeah, it's like a It's like, you know, you've done
like ten push ups and now you're ready for gladiator.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
You're setting yourself up for a failure.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Buddy, I told her I always thought she was worth
more than the way her boyfriends treated her, and she
blushed and appreciated the sentiment. I got her side. And
then later that night the light bulb clicked.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
No, no, no, no, So this is what happened. So this is
how this started. They Mia and Jenna. We're talking one
night and their previous smooch session.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
I got her side of the night the light bulb
clip for both of them, because she tends to be
better with words than Jenna. This is a bastaurized career
collapse of what she said to me because it's early
and I can't remember every detail, so I apologize if
anything is unclear. Basically, Mia always had a thing for
Jenna in the back of her mind and always repressed it,

(47:11):
and eventually developed feelings for me too, So we all
developed feelings for ope. I don't think me always thought
I was attractive and really appreciated the way I handled
myself around both Jenna and herself. Jude oftentimes compliment me
to Jenna, and Jenna would make fun of her for
having a crush on me. Eventually, Mia brought up the
idea of a threesome with Jenna and me, and she

(47:32):
said Jenna was more enthusiastic than she thought she'd be.
That made Mia more excited. The night at the bar,
after talking about all the things they used to do together,
everything they've been through together, the light went on and
she finally realized her true feelings. She and Jenna soon
had a very emotional conversation in which they told each
other how they felt. Tears were shed, feeling shared, all

(47:52):
that good stuff. Mia admitted to Jenna that she loved
her but also had a crush on me and was
really confused. Jenna admitted she loves us both, but said
she wouldn't break up with me. For Mia to answer
that question from the last two threats, Mia then said
there was a pipe dream that we could all date
each other, but never considered it a real possibility. When

(48:14):
she found out I was actually okay with it, he
was shocked and excited. I got to share my feelings,
mostly about how confused they were. I've always been monogamous,
as had they, and while it was a new concept,
it was exciting. I told her my biggest fear is
that we'd all end up hating each other. But at
the same time, nothing good ever happened from not trying.

(48:36):
But you had to say about that.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
I could come up with some contrarian examples, but I
won't say them.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
We talked about for this to work out, everyone would
have to be one hundred percent honest and open. We
walked around, held hands and talked for a long time.
It was probably one of the best dates I've ever
been on. Me and I get along greatest friends. There's
definitely chemistry between us. When I drop her off at

(49:02):
the apartment, I got a good night kiss, something I
wasn't planning on, but a pleasant surprise. I got home
in Texa Jenna and she immediately came over. We live
in the same apartment complex to see how everything wents.
Is Jenna gonna be okay with it? Is Jenna gonna
be okay with it? What do you think?

Speaker 1 (49:16):
I mean? Yeah, I'm sure she's gonna be thrilled about it.
But the problem is that what's the problem.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
I don't see any problems. It seems like everyone's like,
like getting along right.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
The problem is where this ends up?

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Dude, Kea, do you.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Have a problem with this? As of right now, it
seems clear as day, like it looks like it's working.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
I think it's working.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
I think it's working. Like everyone talked about it. Everyone
seems like they're on the same page.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
As long as there's clear communication.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
I'm waiting for the jealousy aspect to come in, but
I don't think it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
I don't think so either. I think I'm I'm.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
I guarantee you Jenna's gonna be like stoked. She's like,
oh my god, you guys, you guys are connecting. You
guys look so cute.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
So, as Mia and Oki begin to build their dynamic,
because they don't have one yet, as they begin to build,
it is going to develop these feelings that she had
not had, and there is going to be this, well
who is you know? Oh, well, we're all dating each other,
so everyone's at exactly the same place emotionally with each other.

(50:14):
But that's not going to be the case because there's
always going to be some level of fluctuation. But that
is going to drive her literally insane, and this is
all gonna explode, all right there it is. I think
that's part of being polly or non monogamous. It's just
it fluctuates. But like, how do you It's how you
handle it and how you communicate through it. Hey, I'm buying.

(50:34):
I have two dogs. I can either get the little
chihuahua you hate dogs. I can get the one hundred
and eighty pound rottweiler with glowing red eyes. That's totally
different with like dark like spells being like, I'm just
saying it's like the only one of one of those.
Both of those options could work, but like one has
a much higher likelihood of like problems happening. Little chihuahua

(50:59):
glowing one of them might be a worse situation.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Mind no, no, the dog glowing red eyes kind of
sounds cute.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Its name is Princess.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
I was completely upfront with her, Jenna. So now he's
talking to Jenna about their relationship with Mia, and told
her everything, all the contact, the handholding, the kiss. She
just seemed thrilled good. She was happy for me.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Right of course she was because this was her idea.
This is Jenna's idea.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
She was happy for mea That's when I kind of
just got it and understood everything as a whole. There
was no jealousy from Jenna, there were no hurt feelings.
She was proud and happy about me and Mia. It's
what people over in the Polysop told me should happen.
I don't know. All the self doubt kind of went away,
and at this point I was just content. Seeing her
so happy about the success of the day just put

(51:45):
it all in perspective, and I, in turn one of
the same for her and Mia. Her and Mia hung
out themselves last night, and Jenna told me they had
a blast, talked about me and I date and shared
a moment themselves when she told me, I wasn't upset
at all. I was happy and content is where we
are now. We're all hanging out tonight just for fun. Also,
this story has a third left. We still got more. Yeah. Oh,

(52:07):
we have to see how everything goes. But so far,
so good. This will probably be my last update. It's
not unless something crazy happens or it all blows over
my face again. There is an updates, so wait around.
Thanks for reading listening to me. Even when I was
being a wiener, the entire process running it all seems
and seeing things from different angles has been cathartic. There
are some comments, and I believe another update.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Yeah, I bet you. I well, who knows what's in
that update? Also, everyone stopped painting on chihuahuas. Two of
my favorite dogs were Zeus and Loki. Here two little
chihuaha's name were perfect.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
So wow was our yappers dude?

Speaker 1 (52:40):
They were perfect adorable little dogs and they did not yep.
They were well yeah trained, Yeah, they behaved well because
their owners made sure they did so. Comment One last
update my butt, update us all when you all bang
comment too. Someone is definitely going to get phased out eventually,
but I think it will be Ope.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
I don't know. This just seems so well. Weird Op
was going to propose to Jenna exactly, and now he's
dating someone in addition to Jenna, and everyone is supposed
to be hunky dory about it and no one is
going to feel like a third wheel. It all started
with Jenna and Mia wanted to f but Jenna was
in a serious relationship. This does not seem like a
great or realistic solution. But Jenna does get to have
her cake and eat it too for a while and

(53:19):
wet which.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Look care Jenna can eat the cake and have it.
I don't care about that. If you are okay with that, Ope,
that's cool. Letter. If you have no feelings for me,
but you're like, yes, Gina, you can go date Mia,
but without me, and I don't care feelings for me? No,
he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
He had a date.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
He was like, I had a date, but there were
no the feelings where I feel like this is my
best sparks best.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
When you you no, there were sparks. They both liked movies,
I didn't know. They publick movies and they both like
to talk about the stop the ding dong, it's the
wedding bells. They both like movies people. Oh my god,
They're made for each other, literally designed in a laboratory.

(54:09):
I'm glad you think so.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
And to be clear, the only the I think Op
and Jenna are fine. The thing that's going to mess
all this up is Mia. Well that's my prediction. Let's
see update three. All right, I want I want one
more pull. Do you think it's gonna have a happy
or sad ending? Put your answers in the chat right now?
What happier sad ending? We have a final update? Okay,

(54:37):
wow fifty f fifty seven Okay, Tom, It says, Okay,
I get both Sam's CODA Dakota's POV because I've been
here too. I dated my bff's husband once and she
was totally psyched out about it.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
But when it ended, it kind of ended the friendship too.
I think that's the that's the con. I think that's
a contract you sign up for. Yeah, I mean it's
like I think, I think you enter into a new
relationship when you add someone and then if it doesn't
work between any of those people. I think the whole
relationship can end. It looks like people are a little
push more towards happy. It went from like twenty five

(55:12):
percent to thirty six percent, but still majority are saying sad,
ending they're on the Dakota side of things. Let's see
what happens in update three. So I wasn't planning on
updating again until we all had spicy sleep with each
other and I even had a great play on words
ready for the title update threesome.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Oh wow, hey, nice dude, what are you doing here?
You should be at the Harvard Comedy College teaching people
how to write jokes.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Amen. But now I can't do that because things got
e fie, No way, things got a little messed up. Dude,
now's got a Messye.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
No, you didn't get married to both of them.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
All right. I was at them all doing some Christmas
shopping today with me. Well, Jenna was at work.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Oh my god, it's the Christmas shopping again.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Things. I've been progressing nicely and we're getting along great.
Me is very bubbling and getty, always holding my hand
and leaning up to kiss me on the cheek every
once in a while it's cute. In the middle of
our shopping trip, though, I got a call from my
brother twenty seven mail.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
All right, you guys ready to play parts here because
it's back and forth?

Speaker 1 (56:21):
All right?

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Okay, so do you want me brother?

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Yeah, I'll be a brother.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
All right? What are you up to? Getting some getting
some christallers? Do my regular voice, because that's what.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
Send Christmas shopping down?

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Getting some Christmas shopping done? At the ball?

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Are you with Jenna?

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Nah, she's at work.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Why I just needed to ask her something about what
to get my wife for Christmas?

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Why don't you text her yourself?

Speaker 1 (56:42):
I didn't. She didn't answer, Well, I mean maybe you
can help. I want to meet you. Want to meet
me at mom and Dad's in a little bit. They
need our help with Is this some Christmas decorations right now? Anyway?

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Yeah? Sure, I can meet you over there at about
an hour, I tell you. All right. So now our
little little thing has ended. I tell me what's happening.
We finished shopping and I take her home. I head
over to my parents, walk into their living room, and
my mom, dad, and brother are all silent and looking
at me like I'm unlive the last panda on Earth.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Oh, they're not doing an intervention.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Oh no, I know what's happened. No, I know what's happened.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Ready you get ready for more conversation.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Oh my god, I know what's happened. Okay, me? Is
everything all right?

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Are you cheating on Jenna?

Speaker 2 (57:29):
My heart fell out of my butt. Apparently my brother
saw me and me at the mall, and then he
called me to verify it was that, in fact, that
was in fact me he was looking at, And after
we hung up, he followed us around and took photos
of me and me holding hands and being touchy feely.
He then immediately went to our parents to tell them
what he saw me doing and showed them the evidence,
and then waited for me to arrive for my intervention.

(57:52):
Stopping here real quick, how do you tell your parents
that you're in a polycule?

Speaker 1 (57:56):
So when a man and a woman love another woman? Ego,
Hey mom and dad, but you didn't know your son
was an overachiever? Say what are you talking about? You
blame it all your parents. You did this, Yeah, this
is your future for this. You made me such an overachiever.
I just didn't know how to stop.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Maybe's so hot? Cool, and collected that I just I
couldn't get enough.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
You gave me these jeans. I look like you guys,
and I wear them well.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
My family absolutely loves Jenna, and they treat her like
a daughter slash sister they never had. They've been nothing
but supportive of relationship from the beginning and have been
on my butt to propose for the past few months.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Oh my god, Wait, So were you even the one
who wanted to propose then, or was it just your
family pressuring you?

Speaker 2 (58:44):
He also wanted to propose, but he was also do
you know what you want? They saw the look on
my face and my mom started crying. My dad yelled, Jesus, cry,
are you having stupid? I was like a deer caught
in the headlights. I kept staying, no, no, it's it's
all you think. I could explain the courage of the
cowardly dog. They didn't want to hear it. At this point,

(59:06):
I was bright red from embarrassment. My mom was crying,
talking about how she thought she raised me better. My
dad looked like he was about to unlive me. He
told me, you need to come clean to that wonderful
girl and hope she takes your r slur cheating ass back.
Here's the abridged version of the conversation that followed me

(59:28):
Jenna knows na uh na me. I'm not lying, Nona.
We're all in a relationship together.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
No, that's the dad and the brother for all listeners
and moms.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Just me, no, for real, I'll call her. I called
Jenna and put her on speakerphone. Hey, Jenna, I just
got back from the mall. My brother saw me and
me together. My parents now know about everything. Dot dot
dot yep, dot dot dot. Are they mad? They think
I'm cheating on you?

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Did you explain everything I tried?

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
They don't believe me. And you're on speakerphone right now.
Can you just say that I am not cheating on
you so I can leave.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Op is not cheating on me. I know he is
dating me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
You have been absolved. Thank you, Jenna. I love you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
I love you too.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Call ends silence. They had a bunch of questions that
I really didn't have answers to. They asked a lot
of details about the logistics of it all, if I
still wanted to get married, kids and all that stuff
you guys have been asking, even the spicy sleep your family.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Bro, I need to know the questions they asked you,
because I guarantee you. One of them was why did
you want this? And ope goes, I don't really know
why I wanted this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
It was a lot harder answering the questions face to
face with my parents, instead of being able to type
and delete anything I said to make sure the words
flowed properly. I was ready to pass away from embarrassment.
My brother thought it was the funniest thing he'd ever heard,
and laughed periodically throughout the whole conversation. My parents have
reached the conclusion that I am self destructing my relationship
with Jenna for a piece of body. As my dad

(01:01:03):
so eloquently put it, they could not comprehend to what
our dynamic was, But then again, I can't fault them
for that. It is different.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
I was real. Then again, I can't really fall them
for that because I can't describe it either.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
They then asked to meet mea which was really weird
because they've met her many many times before and just
called her a side piece. Regardless, I just started dating
Mia and it's a little early to be bringing her
around to meet them. I told them no, and then
they said it was a phase. Then they said they
don't know what to tell the rest of the family,
and then they said it was all going to blow
up my face. In the last few threads. The entire

(01:01:37):
time I was talking to them, my phone was blowing
up with text messages. When I finally left, I saw
they were all from my brother, who was sending them
under the table. They were all along the lines of
I'm so proud of you, and my little bro is
a spicy sleep god and asking for details about the
wild threesomes I must be having. Jenn and I just
had spicy sleep for the first time since all this

(01:01:58):
started last night of us has had spicy sleep with me.
Yet Mia knew and was cool with that, so no
where he's there, so obviously I can't won't tell him
about that stuff yet or ever. I pissed at my
brother for being a Waianer. By the way, you should
never be a wiener and you should go listen to
full episodes with stories just like this. Go to Spotify,
Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app and search. Okay, storytime,

(01:02:21):
there's another relevant update, but let's discuss Dakoda. Is this
ending happily or sadly?

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
I swear to God if this ends without any clear resolution,
so mad because you know they'll never update this with
the hey, so I guess who's single? Like they'll never
say They'll never say that I at least maybe not.
I don't know, Dude, it doesn't feel like they would. Dude.
All of this is goes back to my same point.

(01:02:50):
I don't think OPI ever knew what they really wanted,
because then it even came out that their their family
had been hounding them to propose for months. I bet
you that's why OP wanted to propose, because he just
felt like, I don't know, everyone's telling me that it
makes sense, Op.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
He is way too compliant and it's just being pushed
by the whims and ones of all those around him
and has a noodle spine. Yeah, I mean you think
a little noodle spine.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
You know, sometimes you can just like get into a
rhythm of not really being in tune with what you want,
and it'll it can last for a long time. And
this is not something you should just float on into.
In my opinion, I agree that it shouldn't be floated into.
But it feels like, I don't know, it feels like
they're building good structures for a little polycule to work too.
I would love to know what you guys think. Put

(01:03:33):
your answers in the comments. Is this going to work?
Is this fertile ground for a beautiful polycule to be birthed.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
There's a little bit more of the story, and I'm
gonna go right into it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
I would put so much money.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
I got back to my apartment complex and went and
saw Jenna at her place. Mia was there too. We
had a nice long talk about it. Jenna was mortified,
Mia felt like a home wrecker, and I just wanted
the day to end. Both Mia and Jenna's parents live
out of state, and Jenna always goes there for Christmas.
MIA's parents live further away and she couldn't afford to
get a plane ticket out there this year. I was
entertaining the idea of inviting Mia along with me to

(01:04:05):
Christmas at my family's place. Not sure if that's a
good idea anymore. Pretty bumm because things were going pretty
smoothly with a little resistance slash drama between the three
of us. Right now things are pretty darn awkward. We're
all pretty embarrassed at the moment, and that's how my
parents found out I'm in a polyamorous relationship with two women.
I was blowing off the what will you say to

(01:04:27):
your parents' questions from the previous threads because I really
did not think i'd have to deal with it for
a long time. So I was completely caught off guard
and had no idea what to say or do. It
went about as bad as I hoped it wouldn't. Sorry
about the lack of bagging in this update. Just thought
i'd share. Hopefully, no more updates for a while, unless
Spicy Sleep is involved. I'm going to bed and Keon,

(01:04:49):
is there an update?

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
I found? I think there's a couple updates, but I
found the most recent update, the last the latest update.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
What, yes, there's an update. I would bet out dates.
I would liquidate all of my assets, all of your assets,
all of Kean's assets, and I would say that within
six months. Mia is like losing her mind because she's
completely fallen in love with OPI and can't share him anymore.

(01:05:15):
That I garin because I know MIAs. I know the
MIAs in my life, and that is what they would do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Keana, how long has it been since the first?

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
Uh? First, that's an older story, so it doesn't have
like a.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Yeah, they were talking about Interstellar in this story. Oh,
this is like ten years old, which I have the
most annoying Interstellar story. I saw that with a group
of people and then someone was like, it wasn't that good,
and I was like why, and they were like, it's
just the same movie as Gravity that came out that
same year with George Clooney and Central, which are completely
different movies.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
I saw.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
They just both take place in space.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
But let's get in to this up date. There are others.
Just check my history to see how much of a
I was. I've been getting private messages for the past
nine months asking for updates. Oh my god. I wasn't
going to do it because I realized how douche I
came off the first go round. Kept the private message
responses when I would log in. Here's the update. Jenna

(01:06:15):
and I broke up. I don't know where I stand
with Mia. I'm not going to go into a long
drawn out story for attention like last time, but the
gist of things is they were going great for a while,
really great. Everyone was happy. We had tons and tons
of spicy sleep. My parents had accepted everything, as long

(01:06:37):
as there was only one of the girls around, and
they basically just closed their eyes and plugged their ears. Then,
about a month ago, I noticed some distance growing between
Jenna and myself. Mia noticed two. I tried being romantic
with her, or even gave Jenna a bit more attention
than Mia, something that Mia was fine with. For the
time being, nothing seemed to bring her out of her funk.

(01:07:00):
I finally sat her down two weekends ago. We had
a long talk about what the problem was. She had
met a guy at work and really liked him and
wanted to date him too.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Oh God, I was wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
It wasn't me, it was Jenna. I was not cool
with this. Mia was not cool with this. We told
Jenna how we were not cool with it. Together, Jenna
got defensive. Word were said and things came the lights. Apparently,
Jenna had hooked up with the guy one night after
work and failed to tell either of us until we

(01:07:38):
interrogated her about the guy for what seemed like forever.
I dumped her on the spot. Mia wasn't so quick
as to dump her. So I got pissed at Mia
got pissed at me back. I said some things. She
said The things Jenna got involved and said some things
and told her to stay out of it. In so
many words, this pissed me off more, and I eventually

(01:08:00):
left the apartment in a huff. I didn't speak to
Mia for a few days until we finally texted about
what the future held. Oh my god, there's more, there's more. Wow.
But whoa wild card? Wild card? You've become a very
rich man, Dakota, Well tripled all your weak I.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Think I only get a partial return on that to
parlay parla. Yeah, because I mean I really thought it
would be, you know, the tried and true, like someone
we meet, every relationship is always going sound and it's
always something yeah, yea.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Yea yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
But it was Jenna. Wo oh my god, oh my god.
And it was her idea to start doing this. You
know what they say, you give them an inch, they
take a mail.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
She came over and we talked forever. She says she
loves me, but she still loves Jenna and doesn't want
to throw away her year's long friendship over this. I
told her it was a perfectly valid excuse to do
so she cried and cried. I asked her where we stood,
and she said she wasn't sure. What do you mean,
the person that didn't cheat on you, you're like not sure about,

(01:09:07):
but you still want to be with Jenna.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
How hot is Jenna? At this point? I think we
have to start asking.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Jenna's probably pretty hot.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Yeah. For that logic, it's like, well, or maybe it's like,
you know, it's what's familiar, probably because it was like
it was their whole special thing, maybe like a reluctance
to let go of it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
I told her I couldn't be with her if she
was going to stay with Jenna. I gave her Jenna's
things because I was not speaking to Jenna anymore, and
Mia has been talking to her still. I don't know
what Mia is going to do, so I am in limbo.
So now I'm waiting on Mia and what she decides.
If she doesn't come up with a decision too soon,
I'm going to be making one for her. I'm tired.

(01:09:45):
I've been drunk pretty much NonStop the past week, and
I almost feel like I deserve this.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
My god brother, make a decision for yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
I don't even know if I still want to be
with Mia. I went from seeing two people I love
on a daily basis to seeing no one and being
a hermit. O my brother the Bear Essentials, and he
was surprisingly sympathetic towards me about it, said I didn't
deserve to be cheated on, no matter how weird my
relationships were. Crap sucks. Any updates will not receive a
new thread. I would just add them here. I'm done

(01:10:15):
being an attention salutes.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
I just love that the brother who was like, yeah,
he's the spicy sleep God is down on his luck.
I gotta be there for. I gotta be there for
my spicy sleep God. Brother. I think that, buddy, I
think you should just walk away from this whole situation
right now. I don't think. I think you should be
done with Mia and Jenna and that whole situation should
be put behind you. Shout out to Courtney Electra in

(01:10:39):
the chat for actually predicting this happening.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Wow, that is insane. I did not see that killing neither.
No see that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
I did not see that coming at all. Because people
were like, he's gonna take a victory lap. I can't.
I was wrong. I was not. I was not right.
You were right, you knew the relationship would that away.
It's like, I was right, but I you know, it
wasn't the way I thought. But that just goes to
show you. It's like when you're in a poly.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Relationship, it's like, yeah, you just never know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
What's gonna it throws a lot of uncertainty into the
mix that's not there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Well, that is where that story ends. So, Polly relationships,
can they work? Can they not?

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
Yes? No?

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Debate it in the comments. That is where that story
and this episode ends. So if you'll love us, make
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Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
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