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00:00 r/relationship_advice - My (52F) husband's (59M) affair partner (37F) is being stalked and harassed and I'm getting the blame for it.
23:37 r/relationship_advice - Girlfriend of 7 years cheated on me with some jackass vegan. My question is WHY?
49:33 r/relationship_advice - She [33 F] cheated, I [32 M] left, but she's not letting go

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
My husband's cheated and now I'm the bad guy, all right,
Billie Eilish true warning for stalking. My husband had an
affair with a woman who is now being stalked and
pestered both online and in person. The situation is escalating,
and whoever is doing it seems to want people to
think that it's.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
The wife behind all of it. I think it's the butler.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
This comes from throwa, not a stalker, And if you
want to submit your own stories, go to the r
slash Okay Storytime subred it well, Opie said it in
their Reddit username, so they clearly cannot be the stalker.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
You can read it right here. I'm innocent.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Moving fast and fidelity is hard enough as it is,
But is it even possible when there are constant reminders
and ongoing repercussions almost a year later?

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Should I tough it out? Or is this a loss?

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Cause? How do I navigate being put in the position
of having to interact with my husband's a fair partner
if I want to salvage my own reputation. Earlier this year,
I fifty two female, received a phone call from Aby
thirty seven female, telling me that she'd been having a
year's long affair with my husband Ben fifty nine male.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Okay, admission of guilt. Oo.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I know Amy only peripherally. We live in a smallish
community when we all three work in the same industry.
I'm not sure what made her finally decide to come clean,
but she wanted to meet in person to explain her
side of the story. When I refused, she showed up
at her house and made a scene. I won't get
into all the sordid details, but the immediate aftermath was horrendous.

(01:46):
Ben and I are currently in therapy, and while we
are still together, our future is uncertain at this point.
I don't want to say that's wrong choice, But he
cheated on you for years? Yeah, it just and.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Never told you. She had to come and tell you.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
Doesn't really feel like it's coming from the right place. Maybe,
as if.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
The humiliation of being cheated on wasn't enough. Amy went
public about the affair on social media, making numerous video
updates about her side of the story. Who cares?

Speaker 4 (02:18):
How is anyone taking the side of the affair partner?

Speaker 1 (02:21):
I literally like if I saw like, who cares about
your side? Who cares?

Speaker 5 (02:27):
Apparently enough people to disparage Opie's reputation.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
She had a fair number of followers on a few
different platforms. We also know people in common, so this
all circulated quickly around town. To be clear, we are
relatively prominent figures where we live, and we own a
successful business together. Oh no. Amy described herself as a vulnerable,
insecure woman who was swept away by a charming man

(02:51):
working in an industry she was trying to get ahead in.
It's just the Clinton's. He's strung her along, told her
he loved her and played on her emotions.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
It makes perfect sense now, why I think they're trying
to make this worker yop He's trying to Yeah, because
they're prominent figure, right, small town, big business dude, It's
just the Clinton You gotta have the optics on point.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah. According to Ben, they hooked up a handful of
times over the past three years, usually when they found
themselves at an event together without me nikes. He insists
there was no emotional involvement and that he had been
trying to distance himself from her at the time she
contacted me. I don't care.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
That's a bad excuse.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, well, when she started reaching out to you, I
was trying to not see her.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Not well, but I was trying.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
It's like the local arsonist being like I was trying
to put the fire out, but I only had one
little cup of waters.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
And I also I started the fire too.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, may have started the fire. I still don't know
which of these narratives is closest to the truth, and
I probably never will. For what it's worth, Ben showed
me his phone, and the communit indication he has had
with our seems to support a story, though of course
I don't know if he deleted the more danging messages.
Amy is threatened repeatedly to post proof that there was
an actual relationship between them, but as far as I'm aware,

(04:14):
has not done. So. I know how this all sounds
and how it makes me look staying in this marriage,
and I can admit now that I initially directed my
anger at Amy and downplayed Ben's involvement, But with everything
that's happened since I feel like I'm completely unable to
parse my emotions about all of this. After a flurry
of scandal, people eventually lost interest in our dirty laundry,

(04:35):
and Ben and I started the long process of deciding
how to move forward. I blocked Amy everywhere so I
was not tempted to check in on her. Then, about
three months ago, I suddenly received a barrage of notifications
and direct messages on social media. I was horrified to
see that they were from people I didn't know, accusing

(04:56):
me of being behind a troll account that was viciously
public attacking Amy online, making comments to the effect of
her being a salute, a liar, a home wrecker, not
welcome in our town. This person had also combed through
my social media and was posting pictures of me and Ben,
saying that Amy would never have what we have. The

(05:16):
troll was following just one other account mine.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Yeah, I speak the biggest ICU of all time. What
it's Amy's victimizing herself and being like, see, I should
be her, I should.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Be with Ben.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
His wife is terrible.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah. Amy's plethora of online friends had apparently concluded that
the wife.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
Was the most likely suspect.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Oh P would have to be so stupid to do
all of this and then also follow her own account.
You would have to be just a really bad troll,
which I guess there are a lot, so it's not
out of the realm of possibility.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
But you know there's some people who would try to
pull that, be like I should follow myself just because
I like my profile.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Really, I just want another follower, Yeah, I just want
an even nine hundred. I had to make all of
my social media private, including my business accounts, but not
before having the humiliating experience of a bunch of Internet
strangers telling me that I'm old and ugly and that
there was a reason my husband had cheated on me.
I recruited a close friend to look into things, since

(06:24):
I just wasn't up to it myself and Ben is
pretty illiterate when it comes to social media and relationships.
This friend went back through Amy's posts, and apparently she
has continued making regular video updates about the affair and
its fallout. According to these, someone has been stalking and
pestering her since she went public about it. Why would
you go public about it? Yeah, it's for the followers.

(06:47):
I just obviously, no one deserves to be stocked or
pestered or anything like that. But why would you go
public about a thing where you're so obviously in the.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Rodo This is exactly what Gary Vee was talking about
way back in the day, where you like he predicted
the future of like streaming, and it's like you just
are monetizing everything that.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Happens in your life at all time. Yeah, everything is
a product.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
It's like you put yourself out to be like ridiculed
and then you're like, oh my god, I'm being ridiculed.

Speaker 6 (07:16):
It's the what you gonna call it. Any publicity is
good publicity. Yeah, that's what I feel, you know. Yeah,
it's not like bad publicity. It's just anything out there
people think about me.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Is is me getting famous? It started with nasty, anonymous text
messages saying essentially she'd be run out of town. She
posted screenshots of these and said in the video she
suspected they were from me. Someone also hand delivered a
threatening letter directly to her mailbox. All signs pointed to
this being someone local who had both her phone number

(07:48):
and home address, and maybe it was her yeah, and
not just a random online roll with too much time
on their hands.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
She's actually sleepwalking and doing all of this to herself
without knowing.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
She feel so guilty. My friend also let me know
that the troll account that was ostensibly me went quiet
after two or three days, and that Amy had chastised
people who went after me, saying she.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Didn't think it was me doing this.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
She's like, she's like, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, I
think this. I'm in crime territory. I'm starting, I'm starting
to commit a crime. Everyone stop, please stop.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Guy stop. A few weeks after all this, Ben and
I received a message from Amy's employer regarding some emails
he'd been sent. These were all from an anonymous sender,
but they there were hints that I was behind them.
The email address contained Ben's and my initials. Again just
OHP would just.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
Have to be so stupid to do this obvious red hairing.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Like yeah, they're like, oh, the email says, oh peace
the villain.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
And they're like, well, yeah, from an email from ope
really hates Amy at gmail dot com.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
It's gotta be her, and the cenaer's was my own
first name. Okay.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
They're like, well it says it says here, and then
this person thinks like I am the puppet master and
everyone dances to my streams.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
They're so smart. It's just that these people are so stupid.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Oh god. The gist of it was that certain unnamed,
influential people in the community were concerned about him employing Amy.
The sender asked him to consider the business implications of
having a prostitute working for him. There were several spicy, related,
suggestive semi glove pictures of Amy attached, which turned out

(09:36):
to be pictures she had posted openly on an NSFW
social media account. We assured her boss that this had
nothing to do with us and that we weren't interested
in jeopardizing her employment. I'm sorry, if she's posting that
on a public account, she is jeopardizing her own employment.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yeah, what are you talking about. It's like I found
this evidence on a public Instagram profile with her her
name on it.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
We also made the decision to reach out to Amy,
and she seemed grateful to hear from us. We wanted
her to know this had nothing to do with us,
and told her that we'd be willing to help if
there was anything we could do. Oh my gosh, the
fact that Opie has to reach out to a fair
partner and be like, hey, we'll help you out after

(10:22):
this woman cheated with her husband for years? Is what? Wow,
you could just.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
Made you say that this business that they have has
got to be their whole life. Yeah, because if it wasn't,
I can't imagine putting up with this.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
No, not at all. And it's got to be so
related to like public eye.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
You know.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
Yeah, it's like, I mean, it's horrifying. It's like, so,
you've been with this guy I've seen probably a long time.
You have an entire business together, everyone in town knows you,
and then he cheats on you. It's like, now you're
gonna have to rebuild your whole life from the ground up.
And it's entirely not your fault. It's like such a
hard spot to be put in.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Ben and I already I've been talking about retaining a
lawyer and hiring a pi. Amy asked if we could
write a statement that she could post on social media
saying that we did not condone this behavior, that we
supported her as a member of the community, and that we.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Wanted the person behind it to stop immediately.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
It struck me as an odd request, but it seemed
harmless enough if it would help. Then Amy suggested that
we all meet for dinner to figure out the details
and to finally clear the air between us. No, no,
you're not meeting for dinner with my husband's a fair partner.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
There's never really going to clear the air.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
It's like the air is musty and tank because you
say you're the a fair partner of my husband, so
it's never gonna get clear.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
I shut that down immediately.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
I assume she's looking for closure or forgiveness or something
along those lines. Yeah, I mean that's why she told
you because she felt guilty. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
Oh, he's just a good enough person to be like
I guess like no one deserves to be like actively
stalked in harassed. So I don't like that. I still
don't like you. Oh but whatever, And I'm not at
all interested in that. I'm sorry for what she's going through,
but I don't like this woman, and I never will
make sense. I certainly don't want to sit down with

(12:11):
her and have dinner and drinks. The call went sideways
from there and ended on a very strange and sour note.
I drew a hard line with Ben that we were
not going to provide a statement or communicate with her
directly in any way going forward, and he readily agreed.
My friend has still been reporting back to me since
the email incident. Things have continued to escalate.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Amy's apartment was broken into, enter ofw account hacked.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
All right, starting to think maybe it's not a Yeah,
I think.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
It might not be Amy. She filed a report about
the break in, but the police were unhelpful since there
was apparently no sign of forced entry and nothing missing.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Wait, okay, just kidding now I'm thinking it might be Amy.
Wait why did she know she was broken into?

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Well?

Speaker 4 (12:56):
So, okay, there's two things.

Speaker 5 (12:58):
Either Amy was trying to stage a break in and
lie just tried to make it look like a break
and didn't know it. Or the much like the scary thing,
which is that it's real. And sometimes those kind of
people will like, you know, they'll like break in and
not take anything, but they'll like move something so that
you'll like know someone was there.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Do they like? But how do they not? For a century?

Speaker 5 (13:16):
That's you know, that would be how they I don't know,
a lock pick. Maybe they have some skills.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
I don't know, there.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Are two skills.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
But hopefully it's just a fake because again, hope, so
we'd never wish.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
No one wants to wish that. I don't want anybody.
It's horrific. Just her belongings had been conspicuously moved around
to show that someone had been there. The hack involves
someone accessing her account and making a single post using
a pet name she used for Ben that apparently only
the two of them knew, and once again thinking it's hate.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
Me, so and then that's incredibly suspicious. Yeah, I don't
know if she's trying to be like me, play this
fake evidence to make it like really scary, Like how
do they know the pet name?

Speaker 4 (13:58):
It's like, well, only two people know about that.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
So oh. She quickly recovered the account, but apparently, in
spite of changing all her passwords, someone is still regularly
accessing multiple accounts of hers and possibly stealing private picks.
I had initially entertained the idea that this might be
the work of a misguided friend, but I no longer
think so. I can't imagine anyone I know going this far.

(14:22):
From what I've seen, the pestorer seems to be trying
to give the impression that it's me and that I'm
too old and unsophisticated to effectively hide my identity, but
also apparently an expert burglar and hacker somehow.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Yeah, like, oh he's a lock pick now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Amy is the obvious main target, but this unhinged person
seems happy to have me as collateral damage. Since our call,
Amy has posted videos openly wondering whether Ben and I
are indeed the perpetrators. She's furious with us, saying that
our only concern is for our own reputations, and asking
why we refuse to come out publicly and demand to
stop to the pestiment since if it's not us, this

(15:02):
person at least seems to be acting on our behalf.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
Didn't they do that, like explicitly already they've done that.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
I don't think they have.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
I think I remember them saying like we've come out
and been like yeah, I mean, we don't support this.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
I think she asked them to do it, and I
think she asked them to do it and they were like, yeah,
we'll do it. But then she was like, let's meet
up and clear the air and they were like no, yeah, wow,
And I think that kind of no dinner, but we'll
let people know we don't like you being stalked. Yeah,
She says it's unfair that she is the only one
suffering the consequences of the affair.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
Holy GUACAMOLEI the only one suffering the consequences.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Of the affairs.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
Hey, did you know there's other people that exist in
the world besides you, Amy?

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Yeah, I'm sure the wife of the person.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
That you, you.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
Know, had the affair with, Oh my god, is maybe
effected by the affair of awareness.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
She said. She hasn't quite gone so far as to
accuse me explicitly, but she has said that she thinks
that Ben knows who's behind it. He's adamant that he doesn't,
and I believe him. My close friends have all been supportive,
but I know that there are rumors circulating about me.
My own social media is still locked down because I
get pestered by Amy's friends anytime she posts if I

(16:21):
open it up. In terms of my relationship, I'm furious
at Ben for putting me in this situation. Originally, I
felt strongly that I wanted to try to save my
marriage in this all as me wanting to just walk away.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
However, I don't.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Want to give some crazy stalker the satisfaction of making
that decision for me, And honestly, how do I know
if divorcing Ben will even allow me to extricate myself
from this situation? How can I reasonably move forward when
this person is keeping us trapped in the past. How
much support do we owe to Amy? But your support

(16:55):
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Speaker 4 (17:05):
Please please, there is a little bit left to the story.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
It's crazy that op is being actively harassed by Amy's audience,
and Amy is like, I'm the only one if I
did suffering. It's like, dude, how about stop posting about it? Yes, like,
I just step one.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Truly if you are like again, not condoning, pestering, stalking,
any of that at all, But if you are receiving
all of these threats and such, maybe don't continue to
post about them. Don't continue to post about your role
in an affair if you get receiving backlash for it, right,
that's just like safety, don't do that.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
And it's like, obviously, look, if if that break in
was real, you get cameras like the next day, get
something you gotta you know, watch your back if that's
but like it. The fact that she just keeps posting
about it makes me feel like it's not real because
I was if someone broke into my house because of

(18:10):
some like drama in my life, I would shut up
about I would try to move on and like not
make my life completely centered around that.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Well, I'm imagining what the video must look like because
I'm assuming she's posting all these videos of herself. I'm
imagining she's comes on her live like get ready with me?
Is I'm sure? Yeah, and get ready? And I feel
like she comes on and she says, I was my
house was broken into, and then she's like showing the
house and she's like that used to be over there,
that nothing was broken, nothing was stolen, things were slightly moved,

(18:42):
there wasn't a break in, Like that's all suspicious.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
Yeah, Honestly, I think just given the fact that she
said she's the only one, yeah going through any I
think that is the nail in the coffin for me
that it's her, because like, well.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
She just has to be someone in the community.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
We know that has to be someone who is like
like would be close enough to know about the name,
which apparently is only the two of them, so maybe
it's a hacker.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
It's just the whole vibe is that it's like I'm
younger and I'm better, and I'm like, you know, and
looks she's so old and incompetent. She's like she's she
doesn't even know how to make a fake email, right, yeah,
and I'm so much better than her, Like because look,
because she's doing this.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Also she's doing this to me, so look how terrible
she is.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
It's like, yeah, it's like she's and because clearly, like
the husband said, he's like pulling away. So now a
fair partner's be like no, no, no, no, no no. And
now you know, if there's an understanding anything there, She's like,
I'm gonna get him, I'm gonna get him back.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Well, yeah, she's like, I'm gonna break up this. Well,
I think first she went to Ope expecting Ope to
end the marriage, right when she told her that Ben
was cheating with her. That's that is a great point.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Yeah, and now.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
She's doing all this pestering and stuff of Ope, so again,
figure out an way to end this marriage. I feel like, yeah,
I do not like her one bit, but I don't
think she deserves this treatment by a long shot, and
it seems more and more like she might be an
actual danger. Besides the break in, there was also an
incident where she was followed by a van with darkened windows.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
According to her, though, yeah, I need like that sounds
like the most like cartoon, Like what do I? Oh?

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Yeah, it was a van with dark windows.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Again, if this is actually happening, terrible. I hope she
gets help. I hope she's saying, but.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
Bro, what your starck doesn't sound your stalker can stalk
you in a Honda Accord.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
He doesn't need a van with blacked out windows. It's
like that.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
It just sounds like she's like, what's the thing that
I see in my head when I think of the
word stalker?

Speaker 1 (20:41):
The break in the van? But I don't have any window,
an actual break in, so uh they moved?

Speaker 5 (20:46):
Yeah, dude, No, your stalker's following you around in an
old rav four, not a kidnappervan, Like, what are we
talking about?

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, but there's a little bit left to the story.
We certainly have more resources available to us than she does.
But I feel like every time she has an opening,
she uses it to try to insert herself into our lives.
She says in her videos that she still labs Ban
despite all of this. Yeah, we know if this marriage
or even just my sanity is going to survive, I
feel there can't be any further communication with her. Does

(21:16):
keeping her at arm's length make me look culpable for
the pestimnt? And since Amy is the one with all
the evidence, how can we investigate it on our end
without her cooperation? And that's the end of that story, folks.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
I got to say, I don't think keeping someone at
arm's length will make you look more guilty because typically
people who are like obsessed with harassing someone are like
pretty like active in their zone.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Right.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
It's like they want to they want to see, they
want to reap the rewards of their hard work exactly.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
So I don't know, I really.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
I'm ninety eight percent sure Amy is just trying to
break up that marriage and get better too.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
I quite believe it. Lilith Hyde says if it comes
out Amy is making police reports and that she is
the one doing it, she likely goes to jail for
false reporting.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
Dude Donough McGregor, John donough McGregor comments the Jesse Smollett
School of stocks.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Oh yeah, wait, is that you'll remember that was?

Speaker 1 (22:11):
You don't know that?

Speaker 5 (22:12):
So that was like an actor she told a TV
show And it was like he was like this was
like during like you know, all like the crazy like
political like mag of crap, like back.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
In like twenty sixteen eighteen somewhere around there, and.

Speaker 5 (22:24):
He like faked like a hate crime basically, but like
by faking it in like the most like crazy nonsense.
It was like yeah, in the middle of the night
in like Chicago, like he like painted this picture and
then the cops investigating were like, yeah, this is not real,
Like these are yeah really like two people you hired
to do this? Yeah, and like yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah that's what she's been doing. Yeah. So I just again,
if you guys are ever, you know, experiencing anything like this,
don't don't don't post about it. Go to the police.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Yeah, straight up, don't.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Why would you do that?

Speaker 5 (22:58):
Yeah, because it's like you're also so if you are
being stoked and you're doing this, you're just like feeding
that person.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Like yeah, they're just like.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
Oh no, no, no, no, no oh.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
I just like I'm on this street and this street
right now, and there's something she's live.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
I'm on this street, in this street, and there's a
fan following me.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
I just see that, like one of those like Google
AI videos that have been coming out of like all
the fake vloggers.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, with her like.

Speaker 5 (23:24):
Running like this van keeps following me around my neighborhood.
I guess I'm just gonna go back to my house
and leave my doors unlocked, lead them.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Back to my house.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
But there is another story, folks.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
I caught my fiance cheating on me jail directly to jail.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
I'm embarrassed.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
In my line of work, weakness is not tolerable and
I would be a laughing stock.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Oh my god, that's really intense.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Weakness is not tolerated.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
He works at a used car dealership. I'm thirty two
years old. I met my girlfriend, Joanne twenty nine years old,
on the thirty first of December two thousand and four
at a New Year's Eve party. For me, it was
almost love at first sight. Almost We only talked for
an hour, but I couldn't get her out of my
head for weeks. By the way, this comes from user,

(24:17):
why would she and If you want to submit your
own stories, go to the horse slash Okay storytime subreddit.
So I was dating someone else at the time, and
the second week in January, I was still thinking about
this relatively trivial conversation I'd had with Joanne. I told
my current girlfriend at the time that things couldn't work out.
I didn't know if I would see Joanne ever again,

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but I'd felt something in that one conversation i'd never
felt before. It was an amicable split. I was honest
and told her I liked her, but didn't love her.
I tried to track Joanne down through friends in the like,
and these were the days before Facebook and I never
used MySpace. I finally got a hold of her number,
and when I rang, she said she remembered me too.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Oooooooooooo, she's got a crush on you.

Speaker 5 (25:06):
I asked her out on a date and we spent
a lot of time together. Another guy in our social
group fancied Joanne, so we took it slowly. We were
very cryptic about how we felt and didn't even kiss
until about a month of seeing each other.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Hey man, it's.

Speaker 5 (25:21):
Not been all sunshine and lollipops, though, and I'll be
the first to admit We've had our problems like any
other couple. We broke up once about three years ago,
but weren't apart for more than three months. We've lived
both together and apart. Whatever happened, I thought I'd been
the most reasonable, loving and caring boyfriend that I could be.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
When she was exiled out of.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
The home because her parents moved to Australia, I financially
supported her until she got on her feet.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
These were tough times. It was hard for both of us,
but I felt we grew because of them.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Is that really getting kicked out if your parents are
moving to Australia, Yeah, they're like you have because we're leaving.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Yeah, I mean I guess. I guess so technically, but.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
I feel like when you say, like, oh, she was
kicked you know, she was punted out, the connotation is
like they stayed there and she left, but everyone left.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
She was amicably exiled amicably amicably. I felt that going
through all of this was something special, so I proposed
on New Year's Eve last year, after taking her to
the place we first met, a bar with a rooftop
balcony thing. I got down on one knee and she

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cried and said, Yes, the last six months, I've been
working really hard.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
I'm in sales. I know weakness, honestly, like I knew it.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
That's so funny. I knew it. That's so funny. You
can't show weakness and sales alpha alpha mentality. How are
you going to sell if you can't sell yourself to
your girlfriend?

Speaker 5 (26:53):
So true, I'm in sales and we've had a potentially
life changing deal coming through that would mean the company
i'm with millions in the next five to eight years.
I haven't stopped working my butt off, and I've told
her it's gonna be tough, but that I'm doing it
for us. If I get it, I told her we
could have an absolute dream wedding. Well, the last couple

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of months have been nailbodding, but I finally secured the
deal and netted myself a huge bonus and job security
for life. I was on cloud nine, so I bought
Joanne and I some tickets to go away and celebrate. Yesterday,
my boss let me go home early because of my work,
and I thought, I see you Nope, And I thought
it would be the perfect opportunity to surprise her.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
I'm seeing the U man.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Oh, oh, no, dude, enjoy cloud nine?

Speaker 1 (27:42):
He was so happy.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
I hope you really enjoy being on Sometimes, dude, when
you get on cloud nine, the fall is pretty rough.
Times you get on cloud nine and your wife cheats
on you.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, and then you fall really really for a really
long time, and then you're on. But you can't show
weakness because you work in sales.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
I nipped, I nipped in the flower shop. I nipped
into the flower shop. Is that a phrase?

Speaker 5 (28:09):
I nipped into the flower shop and got her a
bunch of white roses before slipping back home for a
shower and to get out of my suit. I was
driving in my white Mercedes to her house on top
of the world. Work was brilliant, the weather was beautiful.
I had the perfect surprise, and I couldn't wait to
tell her. Bummer man, anyway, we all know where this

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is going.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Oh no.

Speaker 5 (28:31):
When I arrived, there was a crappy MUV parked outside
that I had seen before but couldn't place.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Stalker.

Speaker 5 (28:39):
The penny didn't even drop when the door was unnaturally locked. Stalker,
automatic stalker, stalking stock Amy where you at?

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (28:49):
I unlocked the door and called her name. There was
some music playing, and I didn't hear her reply. I
figured she was in the shower and fixed myself a
glass of water and some water for the hours. In
the kitchen there were some cheap wine and two glasses.
Then I heard the bed banging.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
No, he's on cloud nine though.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
The most horrific sound you could.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Hear, maybe making the bed cloud really aggressively.

Speaker 6 (29:19):
He's jumping on the bed with the monkeys.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
There's just monkeys.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Hi, there's mutt.

Speaker 5 (29:25):
My girlfriend secretly has four chimpanzees she hangs out with
every day without my knowledge.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Dude, all those monkeys were falling off those that beds.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
Stop giving the chimps wine. My heart sank and I
put all the pieces together. I walked to the stairs
and at the bottom there was this pair of ruined,
old leather boots covered in dirt. I was red with ray.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
How could he bring in dirty boots?

Speaker 5 (29:49):
You know what it is, dude. She found herself a
blue collar man while.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
You're at your white collar jobs. She found how could
you do this to me?

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Dang?

Speaker 5 (30:03):
I was red with rage. I walked up the stairs
and I could hear him calling her a salute. I
swung her bedroom door open, and there she was playing
around getting f She.

Speaker 6 (30:18):
Was monkeying around, monkeying it around on the bed.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
She leaped up with the reflexes of a cat.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
How did she do that? If she was getting left?

Speaker 5 (30:28):
It's those cat like reflexes can always land on their feet.
And before I knew it, he had his pants on
so quick. Crazy they've been practicing this power.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
That's insane. How did he even find his pants that quick?

Speaker 4 (30:42):
They were just just on. This doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
I looked at.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
Him and I recognized him. It was this guy that
owns a vegan cafe near mind.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
No, he's not even blue collar.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
He's not a blue collar.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
His boots are just dirty for no reason.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
So his boots are dirty from gardening. Oh, yeah, that
makes sense.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
We'd been a few times, and he had a couple
of parties she had been to with friends. He tried
to explain himself. Wait, wait, I was just making love
for your wife. But I just told him to get
the f out right now. He left so quick he
forgot to take his cheap wine with him.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Wow. He left his Dirney boots and his cheap wine
in my house.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
He left his two buck chuck on the counter.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
It was a box wine.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
I couldn't believe it. She ran over to touch me,
hug me, or something.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
I told her.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
She disgusted me and I left.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
I went straight to my car and she followed me out,
pathetically asking me to hear her story. I told her
not to effing call me and dropped my personal mobile
out of the window. I own a work one, but
it's blocked from anyone other than colleagues. I went home,
got in the shower and just cried.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Man went from cloud nine to the seventh circle of hell.
That's a rough turnaround.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
I called and told my boss everything. He's a great
friend and one of three people who know. He's told
me to have a holiday from work and that I've
done more than enough in the last year. He told
me to take a week and then see how I feel.
She's been knocking on my door and calling my landline,
so I plugged it out. My friends stopped by earlier
after he heard what happened from my boss. A lot

(32:21):
of my friends are worried they haven't heard from me
and can't get in contact because I dropped my phone. Yeah,
I would say, this is the last moment that you
want to like isolate yourself from your support system.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah, no, you need to check out, like call them up.
That's the thing. He's like, I can't show weakness.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Yeah, get over that, brother, That's what they're there for.
They care about you. If they think that you're being weak,
then they're gone. We are all weak, we are all strong.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Agreed, we contain multitudes.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
Anyway, I'm just confused. Why would she do it with
this broke jack butt, this piece of crap that couldn't
support an effing puppy at it. Some of you have
given me advice to take an STD test. I've already
booked one with my private physician for tomorrow. As far
as what other action I've taken, I just bought a
new mobile online, and I have canceled all debit payments

(33:14):
on my card for her gym membership, business classes and
everything else. I don't think I'm going to ask her why.
I'm just angry now. You don't really need to know why,
because the why really has nothing to.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Do with you.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Doesn't matter. Yeah, it's never to do with you.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
No, if she had problems in your relationships, she should
have brought them up to you and ad a mature
adult conversation. Instead, she cheated on you with the guy
that she met at.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
A vegan No matter what she could describe at the
end of the day, why she did it was because
she decided she wanted to do it. Yeah, I think
the answer is obvious. She didn't care enough about me
to have a bit of restraint. Comments Number one.

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Speaker 1 (34:12):
Well before we get into the comments.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
Sofia, do you want to you have anything to break down?
You want to break it down?

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Sofia, man, Well, I think one, as we've said, go
to your friends, let people support you. It's it's easy
to want to kind of close yourself off and deal
with us all by yourself. But that's that's not helpful
in the.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
Law, very dangerous too, because if you guys, dude, like
so many people. It's like immediately, it's like drink or
pit whatever. You know, that's the mechanism, and that's not good. No, no, no,
completely unsustainable.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
The healthiest way to get over something that's happened to
you is to reach out to people.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
Yeah, and you got to keep living life. You got
to keep living your life. Go out there, do something
brand new you've never done before, never even thought about doing.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Go drive your Mercedes around, Go play frisbee golf, Go
on on a vacation that you wanted to go on
with your partner. Take away from achee crafts class. Go
to one of those wreck rooms where you break everything. Yeah,
learn how to do a handstand. Anything, but you gotta
do something. You've got to learn how to do a handstand.

Speaker 5 (35:19):
Comments Comment one. Let me start with it's her, not you.
This is cliche but true. It's pretty clear she's been
writing your relationship for years, probably out of guilt at first.
She probably loved the attention in the romance. Now seven
years later, with a proposal on her back, it's terrifying.

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She probably loves you as much as one can without
wanting to be your wife. She's either not ready for
marriage or she just doesn't want to be with you
and doesn't know how to end it. I'm sure she
feels completely awful about what she's done, but don't let
her back in. You're doing the right thing. As for
why the broke, but Vegan is it's probably has everything

(36:00):
to do with just.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
Not being you.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
Is casual and probably treats her like crap, which is
how she wants to feel because she knows what she's
doing is wrong and her full it's very sad cycle damn.
And that comment was insight very insightful.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
Yeah, we are very complicated primates with very complicated primate
brains that sometimes make us do contrary things.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yeah to how we feel and think.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
But at the end of the day, she still decided,
despite her primate brain being confusing. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm
a I'm gonna make it with this vegan guy.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
And like why a vegan guy?

Speaker 4 (36:36):
He was there, He was there.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
She said that this feels good, I'm gonna, I'm gonna see,
I'm gonna explore this.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
He was there and available. That was her tw and
that that was her conscious decision.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Update.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
Let's just jump into it right first, just to clarify,
I know, I came off as a materialistic jack butt
in my original post. I mean not really, but I
don't look down on anyone less well off or anything.
The comments about the vegans, crappy suv and boots, etcetera.
I set out of anger doy, of course, not because
I hate poor people. Money does mean a lot to me,

(37:13):
but my ex girlfriend meant a lot more. Family, friends,
loved ones all come above my work. So it's been
about a week now since it happened, and I can
just say this Reddit, I'm heartbroken. I was angry and
confused last time I posted, but now I'm just lonely
and devastated. You friends, friends, this is the time where

(37:35):
you go out hit the.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Town, party shaw, take a little excursion, doing a hike,
take a take a stroll through country.

Speaker 6 (37:47):
Smite the vegan, just sa barbecue a lovely Strokes Country
if you need to.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
The day after I posted on Reddit, I met up
with her at a Starbucks to find out some answers
to my question.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
Ah.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
The truth is she didn't have any She said she
didn't no eyes she did it, that she does love
me and that she does want to marry me, but
that sometimes when she was with me lately, she just
didn't feel like she really wanted to be there. Then
I said, then I feel like that sometimes, but I
don't go out and f waitresses. Then she turned and
went all crazy, saying I'm too possessive and that she

(38:23):
should have some freedom. You want freedom to bang the
vegan business on her.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Well, now you know, now you know that she sucks
and she is going to blame it all on you.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
This, you know.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
Honestly, I feel like from all the stories you read,
it's just it's like neglect and then like point like
it's like you won't take any of the blame. I'm
not sure it like the like how they like like
nothing becomes their faults to the scu I just think
it's like a look, they've been together for what seven years,
eight years, and now she's like, you're being possessive over me.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
It's like she just.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
To a point where she's like, I'm not feeling as
strongly about my partner anymore. And instead of being like,
because that's that will freaking happen. You're with someone for
ten years, you're not going to always feel like the
best person ever, top of the world always.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Yeah, I mean it just it's just you go through phases, right,
and if you're a mature adult, you have conversations about that, right,
and you figure out ways to I don't know, spice
up the relationship or like talk to them about what
you're feeling. Instead, she felt these things, blamed you for them,
and then hooked out with someone and then was like,

(39:33):
well it's his.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
It's ope, and is now like it's still your fault.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
Yeah, she said that cheating happens every day and I
shouldn't take it so personally.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
That's an insane response.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
Yeah, just you walk up and leave at this point, brother,
this is why you don't even need this.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
You never need to have this conversation.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Then you should say, well, breaking up happens every day,
so you shouldn't take it so personal. There it is.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
I yes, I fully advocate for no one to ever
have this conversation because the answer is always because they
wanted to.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Because they wanted to. That's also just an insane excuse
that you could use for literally anything. You could be like, well,
people die every day, so it's don't take it so personally. Yeah,
what everything happens every day? Crazy?

Speaker 5 (40:17):
Hold on, Well, no, that's not true, Okay, October thirty first,
twenty eighteen.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
Christmas only happens one day, but you know, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Then the tears came,
and then the begging. I asked her what it is
she loved about me, and she couldn't say anything beyond
the standard cliches.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Brother, why are you This is just hurting you. Stop.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
I listed off a huge string of things about her
and finally said, those were things I loved about you.
I told her how the trade I felt, and how
I'd never imagined being in another relationship apart from ours
in my whole life.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
Ever again mmm, I.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
Told her that this was probably the worst thing that
anyone had done to me personally in my whole life.
Her tears set me off, and before I knew it,
we were too balling idiots sat in Starbucks and everyone
was looking at us. Finally, I told her that despite
how destroyed I was now that there were some signs
that it was coming anyway. I told her that I
don't think she felt the same way about the relationship

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as I did, at least not in the last year.
She was still crying, and I said Joanne, thank you
for some of the best years of my life, and
you go f yourself for ruining them. Ay, I'll send
your stuff over tomorrow. You can keep everything I have
apart from the ring and my external hard drive. The
next day a mutual friend went over to hers and
dropped her stuff off and picked up my external drive.

(41:37):
I took the ring off her at Starbucks. Since then, well,
it hasn't been pretty.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
I can't imagine that it would be.

Speaker 5 (41:45):
I've been smoking so much I never usually do. I
must be going through a whole pack a day. I
suppose it's better in the short term than booze. And
there's a second update.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Friends, stop go to your friends.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
Please handstand hands.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Get really into handstands.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
Get three friends, learn how to handstand. Learn how to
make like macha.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
Get three friends together and learn how to do that
thing where you all make like a human table.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
Yeah, those are each other.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
We should do that. We should I mean, like, get
really into something that you can. I don't know, like
every time you have that feeling you just go and
make a macha.

Speaker 5 (42:28):
Just please literally anything in the whole world, but like
isolating yourself and just like drinking for the love of God.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
Anything but that, please, it.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
Is never a good Don't nothing addictive?

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Please? Yeah? Also, of course smoking is bad.

Speaker 6 (42:43):
Just any vice, honestly, Yeah, a healthy advice. Do a
healthy vice.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Hands running.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
Become addicted to handstand running, just like.

Speaker 5 (42:50):
Every time you're sad. I don't know, I hate running,
but I maybe maybe you like running. Hello, Reddit, it's
been almost two months since I updated. Well, I wish
I could give you all a happy ending and tell
you that I got over her and managed to start
a new energetic life with my focus on friends and work. Yeah,
it's and I wish no, I wish I could get ready, folks,

(43:13):
he's I bet this is gonna be really, really rough.
But you know what, just keep it in your head
that this guy can still be on the upswing. Yeah
he's down, get that diamond. Maybe down, but not out.
Unfortunately this is not the case. Two weeks after my update,
I lost my job. I came into work one morning

(43:35):
on the day I was meeting an important client, and
I was loaded on substances and wasted on whiskey from
the night before. It wasn't the first time it happened
in those few weeks. Why weren't you already back at work.
I thought your boss that you could take like a
freaking vacation. You should not have gone back while you
were still doing this, dude. Oh man, I bet you
didn't tell your boss you were still going through it though.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
I bet you.

Speaker 6 (43:57):
Oh no, the boss could tell. But at the end
of the day, it's also on op It's true. Came
into work.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Yes, yeah, man.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
Dearest John.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
It's been a fortnight since I felt your warm.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Embrace, Dear Sam.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Such it has since we started the Okay Storyteme podcast.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Yes, and I have a message for you, a delicious
story that I think you'll love. Sincerely Sam.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
But before that, thine divine two minute outbreak must happen.
I bid thee farewell. See you in two minutes.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
My boss and friend told me that he couldn't let
me see my client in the state I was in,
that I hadn't shaved in days, and that it was
obvious I was strung out on something. He did everything
he could, but the managing director of my firm called
me and basically said that he wanted to thank me
for everything I did, but that the breakup had hit
me hard and I was becoming a detriment to the
organization I helped build. He offered me a very generous

(44:49):
redundancy package and explained to me that if I didn't
take it, they would have to issue me with a
substance test, and if I failed that, which I knew
I would, I would be out of the door. This
was all off of the record, of course, and done
because of the great relationships I built there and the
work I had done to make the company what it was.
I accepted and worked my last week at a company
I loved and helped build. I had made this company

(45:11):
millions in the last six months I was there, and
was devastated that I was pushed into the corner which
made me leave. And I have no fun transition for this.
But you can listen to full episodes with stories just
like this on Spotify or iHeartRadio or wherever you listen
to podcasts.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
Just search Okay, story time. You know stories coming to
an end here.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
At least they gave you like some kind of like
hey man, normally you'd be gone, but we'll give you.
We want to take care of you because we know
you're going through it.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
At least exactly I think that like just remember you
know this is this is temporary, this feeling of you know,
being so deep in the hole.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
Yeah, but you.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
There is a light at the end of the tunnel.
You have people who clearly care about you, including the
place that you work out, even though that you no
longer have this job.

Speaker 5 (45:58):
Well, Miss jay Bird has a comment I think really
elevant right now. Miss Jaybird says they could have sent
him to rehab or helped before straight to firing. But
I think this is probably where that at the beginning
of the story, he's like, you can't show weakness.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
I think maybe because of how much he did, they're
like willing to give this package to him. But it
sounds like maybe it's an environment where it's like they
don't maybe believe in mental health, where they don't like
it essentially.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yeah, if that's I mean, if that's how he approached
it at the beginning.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
Right, So it's like they're not going to be like, oh,
go to therapy, you go to rehab. They're gonna be like,
this is actually a personal character fault and we don't
want someone like you working here.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
Yeah, is wrong and not fair.

Speaker 5 (46:36):
And you think if this guy was such an asset,
they would really have tried to help him a little
bit more.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
Ess sales culture, that's that's common.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Red Bull ranesays, I'd say that if he got himself clean,
straightened back up, talk to the employers, he'd probably get
his job back. Yeah. I think potentially, Yeah, if he
like came back around and truly got you know, just
really improved himself after this rock bottom moment, I think
potentially they would take him back because of how much
he's done for the company, or they might give him

(47:06):
like a very favorable recommendation for somewhere else.

Speaker 5 (47:09):
You know, my redundancy package was six figures, and with
my savings, it basically means I can live comfortably with
no job for like two years. I didn't go to Vegas,
and I have lost some friends being a jack butt
to them over the last few months. A couple that
I can rely on have stuck with me, and I
love them like brothers for that and we'll never forget it.

(47:31):
As for everyone else, I have developed a strong hatred
for them, which is like drinking poison and thinking it's
going to hurt your enemy, even when I know it's
not their fault.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
I think really counseling would super help you do.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Please please, I really worry that appease, like in that
mindset of like I can't go to therapy.

Speaker 5 (47:49):
Yeah, it's not it's it's not man, man, please, it's weird.
I'll get paranoid and think they're not on my side
and that they think I deserve it. Such a ridiculous notion.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
But it feels true.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
And that is the end and that story that makes sense, brother,
because you were betrayed davery deeply. So of course you're
now your brain's probably in a state where it's going
to assume everyone.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
A lot of people.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
I really hope that you find and get the help
that you need and that you're able to, you know,
get out of this this bad place.

Speaker 6 (48:24):
Yeah, but therapy it also it also sucks because you're
showing your ex you know that she's really got to you.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Like it's hard, but.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
It's honestly like I don't even I don't like that dude,
Like the whole like where it's like the optics needs
to be like, oh we broke up.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Like I'm posting on my Instagram story that I'm.

Speaker 5 (48:43):
It's like stop it, yeah, stop making it a person now,
just make it about your the next day.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Stop making a breakup. I mean, there is this feeling
of like I need to win. I need to be
in a better place than especially if you have a
thing where they've betrayed you, Like I need to be
in a better place than they are. But I think
when you are truly effectively dealing with the breakup.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
You aren't even thinking about them. You're just living your
life for yourself, right.

Speaker 5 (49:15):
You know there is no hatred, There is no there's nothing.
It's different. Yeah, yeah, it just sucks his hope.

Speaker 6 (49:21):
He was taking all that anger out on you know,
his support system, which is, yeah, you take your anger
out somewhere.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
But yeah, but.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
At least he's got the You know, there's people who
stuck with him. But we have another story.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
My girlfriend cheated on me, but she won't let me go.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
That isn't how that works.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
I've been with ex girlfriend Vanessa for the past five years.
We met at a convention for one of our hobbies
and started just talking about the hobby itself, with no
other goal in mind. We started dating when she confessed
that she liked me is more than a friend and
it was mutual. I just kept quiet because I didn't
really want to ruin the friendship, and I wasn't really
expecting her to be interested in me. By the way,

(50:02):
this comes from Throwaway, want it Over, and if you
want to submit your own stories, go to the r
slash okay storytime severed it. So we dated for about
two years steadily before we moved in together. Our families
meshed well together, our friends mingled, and we all became
one big mixed social circle. That was a surprise because

(50:22):
we both come from very different financial backgrounds, me being
raised in poor slash middle class kind of finances, Vanessa
and her.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
Friends and family being really really rich.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
WHOA, you're mickling with the classes, crazy scandal. Everything was
great for the past three years except when she cheated.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
Oh that's a that's a big asterix to put on that.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Vanessa cheated on me with some random guy. I don't
even honestly know why, or do I really care to find.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Out, and that's the way to do it.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
YEP. I found out a month ago because I took
her phone to call up a friend since mine was
inoperable at the time. The first thing I saw when
I unlocked her phone was a message popping up about
how some guy loved that butt bncit on him the
day before.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
Ew, that's kind of gross, kind of achy, yuck.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
I'll spare you the emotional turmoil I briefly went through,
and I'll admit I just put the phone down, told
her I was leaving without telling her why, and I
could see she was confused about me just going out
like that. I just didn't want to do something i'd
regret because I did have anger issues in the past,
but I've mostly worked past those. She probably found out

(51:38):
I saw that message, but since my phone was still
in the apartment, there was no way to get in
touch with me. I literally just walked around the city
for hours until I was so tired that I felt
like falling asleep on my feet. We read another story
where a guy was just walking around for he said
fifty miles.

Speaker 5 (51:55):
I don't buy it a fifty mile, and that guy
was walking so fast he was walking away.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
He's walking like those Olympic speed walkers.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Went over to a friend's place, stayed with them over
the night, and the day after I got over to
our apartment and talked it out with Vanessa. I told
her I wasn't gonna be in a relationship with a cheater,
and that was that. I didn't ask for details how
it happened, who exactly the other guy was. I just
wanted to go away from it all. See that's how
you do it. Yeah, I'm breaking up with you. Yeah,

(52:26):
see ya, I'm breaking up because you decided to cheat.
I don't care what you think about me or what
you think about this guy.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
I don't really care about any of that.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
You cheated on me. She wasn't looking to oblige me, crying,
hysterically blaming herself, hitting herself in the ad because she
was I quote, a stupid cheating cu and t begging
me to not go that she would do anything to
try and fix this. The whole thing.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
She made even more uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
To be around her, and there was a scene in
front of our apartment when our neighbors came out to
see what the noise was about. Yikes.

Speaker 5 (52:59):
Yeah, you should just tell her. The thing you could
have done to prevent this was just not cheat. Now
you can't do anything about it.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Too late. I did manage to get away, but it
was unnecessarily complicated with drama. She made her choice to
f someone else. I made mine to break up because
I don't want to be a cheater. I managed to
take away most of my things from the apartment when
she wasn't there, and hope that would be that. But
if it was, I wouldn't be here now. I mentioned

(53:27):
before that Vanessa and her family are rich. She's now
using her and I presume her family's money in not
giving me a single day of some kind of reminder
of her. Either I'm getting gifts sent my way at
my workplace, or I'm getting letters in the mail and packages,
or she just hangs out with one of her friends
somewhere where she knows I am. I have no idea

(53:49):
how she knows. And this is making me feel paranoid
because I keep thinking she might have someone following me. Well,
now she's stalking trying to get me to talk with her.
I have tried talking with the local police on the matter,
but I've been told, in not so many words, that
her family would make sure nothing would be done about it.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
All right, here's what you do.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
No, not the rich family.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Here's what you do.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
You get aggressively weird, all right.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
We don't get aggressively angry when we see her following
us around inconspicuously, or she just so happens to be.
You run up to her table like a goblin like,
and then you go.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Until she just leaves.

Speaker 5 (54:24):
Yeah, and then maybe she'll be like, I don't think
I like my ex boyfriend anymore.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
I don't actually think I want to be with them.
That would be.

Speaker 5 (54:34):
Concerning yet out weird, out weird, the weird behavior.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Props to the cop for being honest about it, But
they could do their job instead.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
We'll see what they're getting freaking bribed.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
When it comes to stalking.

Speaker 5 (54:48):
A CoP's job is just to wait until you're in
a ditch and then they'll do something.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
I wish we could have prevented this, If only there
was something we could have done. Blast.

Speaker 4 (55:00):
I want to heal.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
I want to move on, but she's not letting me,
and I don't have enough money to just move away
somewhere else. She's already blocked or ignored on every possible
media I have, but strangely enough, she's not trying to
get to me through them anyway. On the other hand,
friends are every friend she's got, and she has plenty.
Has asked me to just meet up with her hear

(55:23):
out or something else like that, you should do this
is she paying them all? Do this though?

Speaker 5 (55:28):
But do it like how Robert Pattinson did it. Robert
Pattinson had a stalker. He went to dinner with his stalker.
His stalker then stopped caring about him because he went
to dinner, and the stalker's like asking him question.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
He's just like, yeah, I don't know. I don't like
leaving my house.

Speaker 5 (55:42):
Like yeah, I'm like, I like kind of hate most
of the things I do and think, and I don't
I don't really have any interests.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
And she was like, oh, you're awful.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
How you do it? I guess?

Speaker 5 (55:55):
And he was the thing is in his interviews would
be like, yeah, I was just like genuinely just a conversation.
I just decided. I was like, you know what, I
will entertain this person. I'm kind of bored, I guess.
And then she was like, actually, I don't think I want.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
To see you again. Oh man, but I'm so tired
of that. I'm tired of this kind of crap. I
just wanted over with. I don't want to hear her speak,
I don't want to see her. I won't do me
any good. So please can anyone help me here? How
do I move on from someone who won't let me
and who has absolutely both the time and money to

(56:28):
keep doing it indefinitely. And there is an update. I'm
not gonna lie. I feel like you're right.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
You have to shatter the illusion. I feel like you're right.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
You go to her and you say, all right, we
can make this work. But I have a confession. This
entire time, I've been afurrey. I've been a fraud. I've
been afraid to tell you. Oh I said a hurrey,
a furry Oh I thought you said afraid. I was
thinking that, but I was actually going a step further,
and I'm going I'm a diaper boy. I need to

(56:57):
be in a diaper at all times. Yeah, there's a
community that exists there.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
I know.

Speaker 5 (57:02):
Okay, it's horrific. Yeah, but yeah, hit her with that.
Hit her with that the most earnest way that you
possibly can. I need to be in a diaper at
all times, and I cannot change myself because and.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
If you're ready for that, we can get back to time.
Have you ever met a baby that can change its
own diaper?

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Hello?

Speaker 4 (57:18):
Nope? So yeah, my cards are now on the table, baby, because.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Like, genuinely, you don't have enough money to move. You've
tried the police, they aren't working. You've tried to block everyone.
They keep finding ways to access to you. She has
a lot of money and time. Shame she can try
like get ready with me, where you just shame you
do the anything.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
Because they're like rich and like probably like well known
in the community. So it's like, if you start shaming her,
maybe she'll just leave you alone because she doesn't want
the bad press.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
That's another good one. Updates In the end, I set
up a meeting with my ex's mother, whom I mentioned
in one of my posts when I was replying to
people about this whole thing.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
It was roughly a week after I made my previous post.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
She knew why we were broken up and completely backed
up my decision to break up with her daughter, seeing
how much it had hurt me. It meant a lot
to me, and I guess I never really appreciated her
mom being so friendly with me while we were together.
I explained to her what had been going on since
the breakup. She only knew that the ex was trying
to get back together with me, but she didn't know

(58:22):
about her showing up at any place I went out.
Her friend's badgering me, or the letters and gifts being
sent my way constantly. I came close to tearing up
because of how much support she showed me at the time.
At one point she even hugged me and kissed the
top of my head like I was a little kid again.
I felt both embarrassed and grateful. I just wanted space

(58:43):
and time to heal from this crap, and I think
she understood as much. All in all. After we got
that out in the open, she promised me she would
get her daughter back in line to leave me alone
and stop pestering me. We talked a bit more after that,
but went our own ways soon after. The ex's pestermen
continued for a day or two, and then it completely stopped.

(59:04):
No messages, no calls, no sudden appearances where I was
hanging out or anything. Three weeks and nothing from her
so far. Okay, it's been bliss wonderful. It's like this
huge weight just rolled straight off of me. It's easier
to breathe, and I'm not even looking at the door
of some place I'm hanging out to see if it's
the X or one of her friends. But I didn't

(59:26):
even notice that myself. My friends were the ones who
brought it up to me. So yeah, this is a
thousand times better than what it was like before. And
you know what's a thousand times better every time you
watch it? Full episodes stories just like this, just go
to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or iHeart Radio and search up Okay, storytime.

(59:48):
There is a little bit left to the story. Do
you have any final thoughts or advice for OP?

Speaker 4 (59:52):
It turns out it was just tell mommy all the time.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Turned out just tell her mommy.

Speaker 5 (59:59):
I still being maybe like aggressively weird and off putting
could have been the most fun way to go about
it for me personally. Maybe OP is not about that.
I'm about that light you are. We know that Pea
is Maybe maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
But Peace got his own life.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
For the general population, I think maybe yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
Going to the mom or anyone, just anyone who has
some level of authority over her and being like, dude, like,
what is going didn't you know your daughter, the girl
you raised, is doing this to me?

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
We are cool, right, We're cool.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
You can fix this, right?

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
Do you have something to say to her?

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Maybe?

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
Yeah, But if that doesn't work, bark like a chihuahua.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Exactly. That's the alternative.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
You have to wear tell you you have to wear
an adult, you have to wear a diaper, and you
would prefer it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
To be loaded.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Diary of a wimp?

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
Kid?

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
What loaded diaper? There's who's have you never seen diary
of a whim? That was after my time? No, it wasn't.

Speaker 5 (01:01:01):
N uh it was no, huh it was no, that
was after my time? Wrong, right, it was our time,
thank you. No, the books were not the movies.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Yes, it was our time.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
There's a little bit left to this story.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
I've talked with my exes mom one more time over
the phone, and I thanked her for whatever she did
with her daughter, and she was saying it was the
least she could do. Near the end of the conversation,
she said it would probably be for the best if
we didn't speak anymore. It would let me fully move
on from this, but that she was sorry it had
to come to this, and that they her and her
husband wouldn't see me coming over for Christmas.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
Not The chat starting to be like decodad is your time,
it's your time.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
It's your time.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
Just not up on it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:45):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
Oh, I'm ex I was expoused.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Sex to sex. I hope that didn't echo. I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
We said our goodbyes and that was that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
So that's it. The pestment stopped. I'm feeling great and
life's really looking better nowadays. One more time, thank you all,
guys and gals for trying to help me out from
the crap pile I found myself in. And folks, that's
the end of that story, and I believe the end
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