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0:00 r/BestofRedditorUpdates - AITAH for refusing to change my children's school for husband after his ex wife lost her high paying job?
17:01 r/BORUpdates - I (26F) broke my wrist and my husband (28M) won’t help me out with driving. Where do I go from here?
31:39 r/AITAH - AITA for upsetting my wife so she’ll clean more?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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for the next two minutes or so. My husband's ex
wife lost her high paying job. Now my children's education
(00:22):
is in jeopardy. Not the kids. Doo doo doo doo
doo doo doo. I am forty two female with two
children sixteen female and twelve male with my ex Danny.
I have been married to Greg, forty four male, who
had a son fifteen male and daughter ten female with
his Exlia. We met at our children's school. Danny and
(00:44):
I jointly fund our children's private school and they have
college funds set up by both sets of grandparents. He
is loaded. Oh yeah, by the way, this comes from
not a doormat at Naomi. And if you want some
of your own stories, go to the r slash Okay
story Time. So illbredd it. So my ex and I
don't like each other, but we copare it well. And
(01:05):
want the best for the kids. Greg and I have
decided that the things we buy and treat kids with
are equal at home, but school and college funds won't
be mixed as our exes are involved, as well as
gifts from ex partners. We've had to teach the kids
the differences about the income when it comes to my
ex's kids. The kids are nice to each other and
share things, although they definitely love their bio siblings way more.
(01:27):
Greg and his ex jointly fund their children's education too,
but Lyya lost her job recently and has had to downgrade.
That means they can't pay for the same school. They
had to change schools. Now. He is pressuring me that
his kids hate that my children go to a bigger
international school and we should change schools after summer. So
(01:47):
basically asking to compromise on their child's education because they
can't afford it. The grandparents are of that so Greg
and his ex op is forty two female, Yes right
has an ex Danny. Greg has an ex Layah. Greg
and Op he are together and and partner yep and
(02:09):
Liyah has a partner and Danny has a partner right
So and also the grandparents have like Danny and them
fund the children's private school. The Danny her ex and Danny.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Is loaded, right, we are caught up.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Let me know if we need to bring out the whiteboard.
So basically, and then what happened is Greg and his
ex we're doing, you know, private school. But then Liya
Joss's job couldn't lost her job and they couldn't afford
it anymore. And Greg's like, you should you should downgrade too,
And this is like Opie and Greg are currently dating. Yes,
(02:46):
so I told him that my kids' education can't be compromised,
and it was clear to us that we are responsible
for our children's school as well as college education. We
are fighting a lot on this, and he is saying
I'm being too tough. He's sleeping in the other room.
But I won't change anything regarding my children, and my
ex alone can pay for the children's education even if
(03:06):
I try to do this. And also, my kids will
never forgive me. I love Greg, but this is the
hill I will pass away on. I don't think you
would have changed his kids' schools if this were the case.
On my side, even if it means I have to
lose him, I'm hurting inside, but I want the best
for my children. There is an edit, There is an update,
but yeah, John, what do you think about this so far?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I mean basically you shouldn't have to change your I
think like the shid is like if the scenario was reversed, like,
would you say the same thing.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah, No, you should never compromise your children's education.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, definitely not definitely not so edit.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I can't take the solo decision on my children's education.
My ex will drag me to court and mine wash
the kids against me. And second, stop sending spicy sleep messages.
I am not interested in cheating on my husband. Oh no,
And everyone says Opie is not the a hole, but
there are some relevant comments, So this is the downvoted commenter.
Everyone's the a hole. Honestly, it just seems like a
(04:02):
pride thing. If you were able to help Bridge a
year for his kids, that would be appropriate given your
their step mother and Greg's wife. If his X couldn't
get another job, then switching makes sense. If all this
was couched, as your ex is effectively paying for your children,
it might hurt Greg's feelings if you can't keep up,
but I think the kids would understand even if they're
(04:24):
not happy. There just seems to be too many emotions
and strong feelings now wrapped up in the discussions hope.
He responds, there is no pride here. First, my ex
will never accept my terms, and he will tell the
kids that I wanted to change their schools. He will
never agree to it. If I'm just trying to please
my husband. After paying for kids, I contribute equally to
(04:45):
household budget. We have our retirement plans, and there isn't
much money left at the end of the month. I
can't just bring money out of nowhere to pay for
their schools. My eldest has entered eleventh grade, and this
school's main focus is on getting kids to top colleges
in my country. Uprooting the kids will cause more damage
to their career aspects, and I can't compromise on their future.
(05:06):
I want them to have success in life, and this
school opens doors like no one else in our area. Yeah,
I mean especially like eleventh grade. That's that's that's junior
year right when you're applying to college. Is to pull
them out now, it would be ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, it would be a huge, huge uproot of not
just their life and like some of the final most
like pivotal shaping moments before they go into adulthood. But
also they're like future chances of success in their career
and yeah, all that jazz being commentor too.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
The generous thing to do would be to help pay
for his kids schooling until their mother can step back up.
Being the better person versus passing away on hills is
something to consider given the long term effect of the situation,
Opi responds. The thing is, we don't have much money
left after all expenses. I can't afford it. I don't
have extra money lying around. I contribute equally to household
(05:54):
budget and our retirements. How long has Ope been with Greg,
Opi responds five years in another downloaded comment, he should
have found someone who would love his kids as their own.
If those were both of their kids, they would be paying. Again,
this is not about Ope not loving these her step kids.
It's more that she has an agreement with her ex
(06:15):
partner on how their kids should be parented together and
ultimately on the biological parents or like the people that
are stewarding the children and the the uh, not the
biological parents, but the the the legal parents. Yeah, the
legal parents to advocate for what they want for their children.
(06:36):
And if the dad doesn't want his kids moving schools
and the kids don't want them the moving schools, then
I don't see any reason for this to change. You know,
I agree if those were both of their kids, they
would both be paying the emotional damage that this is
going to cause. Is going to put his kid in therapy,
and she couldn't care less. From reading here, I feel
(06:58):
incredibly sad for single parents who have the response its
ability to find someone who is going to love their
kids as their own. An OPI response. I love my
step children, but from where can I bring the money
from trees? How can I control my ax? He can
afford to send my kids to Harvard. He will give
my son a BMW when he turns eighteen. How do
you expect me to compete with that? How can I
control it? Tell me Sherlock. I care for them, but
(07:21):
some things aren't in my hands, which include my excess
decisions regarding our children. I gift same things to each kid.
I contribute more than half of our budget for the household.
I don't have extra cash lying around in another downpoad
to comment, have you asked your kids or children what
they wanted. I personally think it's toxic that this is
not mentioned and that this is really the only thing
(07:43):
that matters. Man, there's a lot of rough comments in here,
throwing shots today. Yeah, OPI responds. They don't want to
leave their school. They have their friends there and their
dad study there. He will never take them away from
the school. And there is a big, fat, juicy update.
Nanta Lisa Chreila says he is not a single dad.
(08:04):
There is a mom in the picture. Yeah, neither of
them are single parents. Both of them have an AX
in the picture. But yeah, what what do you think?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, I mean it's about supporting the kids at the
end of the day, right, So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And I just I feel like it's it's just ridiculous
to ask to jeopardize a child's education to make it equal,
you know, like, yeah, it just doesn't doesn't make anything.
It makes it makes it.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
You should want the absolute best in whatever that scenario
ends up being for any given child. If that opportunity
is available, if they opportunity is there, take it.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
So update. I got lots of support as well as criticism.
People told me I should have married a rich guy again. Sorry,
love doesn't ask for a bank balance. Some said I
am an evil step mother. I pay more than a
half of the household bills. I pay for the mortgage.
I don't have much extra money left, and I have
personal expenses too. Should I stop living at all? I
(09:04):
have to address decently at the office, have to buy
things for myself, and my ex will drag me to
court if I even dare change it, and my kids
will hate me. I can't lose them, so anyway, here's
the update. After I made this shread the same day,
I told Greg that I can't continue. I told him
that my ex will never agree, nor will I agree
to it. I told him, is there any aid the
school could provide to the kids. He told me that
(09:25):
his ex and him asked the school and they refused.
I told him that if he is going to fight
me over this every day, we better split up. His
expectations are going over the top. Tomorrow, Danny might gift
expensive cars to our kids. Do we have to sell
a kidney to give the same cars to the step children? Tomorrow?
He transfers businesses to his kids, would we expect them
(09:47):
to give shares to step children? He apologized and said
he doesn't want to leave me. He cried and we
had a heart to heart. The next day we invited
Leah and we devised a plan. Leah also has lots
of debt and she is with all his salary changes
and little compromises here, like one vacation of a year
rather than two, we can afford fees for the elder
step child. I will contribute some to it too, Greg Sun,
(10:11):
who is fifteen and is in tenth class, so we
can afford his fees for three years. Ten female would
still need to go to a cheaper school for three
years if Leah's and Greg's financial condition doesn't change, which
might change in the future. But when her brother passes
out in three years, he will transfer back to a
better school again. We talked to the school again and
he is transferring back in a few days. So basically
(10:34):
one kid is going to get the private school like
you know, full education. The other kid is not. But
it matters less because the kid is like younger yeah,
but ten yeah, yeah. The kid is happy and even
though the stepdaughter is a little sad, we cheered her
up and will try to make it up to her
in other ways. I know many asked to divorce, but
even a bad person. Yes, he reacted harshly, but he
(10:56):
apologized to my kids and me. This is it for now.
Thanks for positive comment and suggestion. Take care. There is
an edit and there is more to this story. But
do you think op is making the right decision in
not divorcing?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I mean it seems like they have finally come to
an understanding. I mean, what's the whole point of Like
so many issues on this show where it's like, hey,
come together, fully communicate, realize where each other is standing from,
and then work together to find the solution.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
It seems like they have done that.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, and they are doing that.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, And it seems like Greg is genuinely remorseful. It
seems so far. Time will tell. We've seen you know, some.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Crocodile plans are crap again exactly, Winston Churchill said, indeed, so.
But as long as I think this kind of continues,
then I think we could be looking good. All right, Well,
we got an edit. So also to add people making
assumptions that I am taking from my children, No, my
post is about education of our kids and our agreement.
(11:58):
If I was the only one paying fees, I would
have never accepted Greg's ultimatum. I would have chosen divorce
to stop, assuming nothing has been taken from my children.
And someone in my very first comment said, I do
bare minimum for the kids and the ex does the
heavy load. My ex earned millions. How could you expect
me to compete. I pay for things in my capacity.
(12:18):
I do savings for them and many other activities. If
that is bare minimum, then so be it. This forum
people are hypocrites. If I find a solution, I become
suddenly a bad bother. If I don't, I am an
evil step mom. My contribution is very less to stepson's
private school, and it doesn't affect our budget or my
children's needs. Greg also does a lot of things for
(12:39):
my kids and they have a good relationship. But my
post wasn't about that, and I have a final edit.
Keep crying under my comments. I won't change a thing
or two. Lol. We're all happy with this, and my
children are well taken care of and stepdaughter will be
back to a top school after a few years. People
with pathetic mentality will find negatives in everything. Stay mad Chow.
(13:01):
I think this is a person that has not experienced
the wrath of Reddit before.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
No, no, this is like someone definitely new to the
internet and like new to Reddit.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, but funny.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I love seeing the innocence in the reaction of the
nascent reddit user.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
You know what I mean. That's fun.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
So your compromise is degrading every kid's education to make
equal with the stepdaughter. There is no gender bias. If
the elder was a girl, she'd have got preference over
a younger brother. She will be back to a top
school at thirteen again or maybe earlier. It isn't a
perfect solution, but a middle one. His college prep will
start from next year, so he has one extra year,
and stepdaughter will be back to the same private school
(13:39):
at the age of thirteen and will get the same
college prep. Here, elder kid is given preference because of
college chances and circumstances. A fifth class isn't as important
as college preparation. There is no gender bias. By the way,
I am not biased when I say the best podcast
you could possibly listen to. To listen to full episodes
of stories just like this, it's Okay Storytime. So just
(14:02):
search on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app.
Okay Storytime. There's another relevant update, But let's discuss what
do you think about where we're landing here with our
peeved hero.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Here, Opie's heated, but in action, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I mean, we talked with Greg.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
It seems like we came to an understanding, put together
a plan, put that plan into action.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Kids, are you know?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I think Opie says, not, you know, not perfect, but
it's a it's like a middle a middle ground.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Plan where we are still a middle ground plan.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, yeah, it's still it's still I think it's smart.
You know, We're still We're still using our resources effectively
and I think ultimately able to give all the children
like the best with with what's at hand. And this
is evasive maneuvering, parenting and action in a good.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Way, any good good way. Yeah, I agree, I agree,
And yes, schooling matters here. It is in America where
public schools are best. Private schools decide your best college opportunity.
And some are saying stepdaughter will resent if she's gonna
resent me in the future, it's up to her. I'm
not going to listen to tantrums. I'm doing what is
possible in my capacity, and we will provide her with
(15:11):
the same opportunities in three years, but his elder siblings
career is on the line. A college is more important
than fifth class, as simple as that, at acceptable concern,
Stop spamming my mentions. There's no gender bias here. Only
elder sibling is given more chance right now, regardless of gender. Sorry.
If you think loving kids is being a doormat, you
(15:33):
guys were never given love God. Your negative replies won't
change my stands. And I know what I'm doing. If
you think my husband is using me, I am not
here to change your mind. I know what he does
for me and has done for me in my whole life.
Money isn't the end of the world. And we are
happy overall. Chow, and I hope that is the last
(15:56):
chow we see from Opie because man is getting he
did just fire and all he did. Oh man, chat
dud dude. I feel like Reddit was hitting her with
every little thing under under the book, like your husband's
using you, your daughter's gonna hate you, You're a bad
step mom, like why are you You're you're sexist for
(16:19):
favoring your dought. They were hitting.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Her with the book and you know, and you know
what happened too, because not every op collapse back as
hard as this ope.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
So I think everyone's like, oh.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Oh you want to go, you go, baby, you can't.
I mean it's like, where is fighting with I feel
like fighting with with like redditors in the comments is
like going up against a zombie horde with your fists.
Like you're gonna be versus a gorilla. Yeah, You're just
You're just gonna get tossed.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
It's just gonna be crazy. It's just what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
But that was the end of that story. Oh not
the end of this episode. Let's freaking do this thing
about I'm being home. My husband refused to drive me
to work even though my wrist is broken. Uh drive yourself.
One hand can work, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
There it is so.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
A couple of days ago, I was doing yard work
and I tripped, fell and broke my wrist. It's in
a cast and will be for at least four weeks.
I work full time in person about thirty minutes away
from home, and I took the last two days off
from work, but I need to go back on Monday.
I can't drive my car because it's stick shift and
the wrist I broke is on the arm I used
to shift. That is stick shift is rough because it
(17:34):
could have been like the other arm and could have
a man. I can't grab the shifter to change gears,
so I can't drive it. My husband drives an automatic,
and while it wouldn't be the greatest thing, I could
drive it. By the way, this comes from a throwaway,
broken driver And if you want submit your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay storytime to separated it.
So I asked him if he would mind switching cars
with me until I am able to shift gears again.
(17:56):
He said no because he doesn't like driving my car.
In fairness, yes it's our Christian. Our roommate has a
stick shift car and we'll park it in front of
my car and I am afraid to move that thing.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
But are you married to Christian?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
In some ways? I am?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
In some ways I am now. I taught him how
and he's used it before. He just doesn't like it.
So I asked if he would drive me to and
from work at least a few times per week. He
also said no because he doesn't want to wake up early. Well, dang,
the works three shifts per week in the evenings. I
would be home with his car before we had to
leave for work. He would also have to drive me
home from work without being late. I am also the
(18:37):
bread warner and we need the money that I make
from working. He told me I should just Uber, but
it erect. I thought he was saying, like, just oh,
just quit your job and drive Uber. It's like take
an Uber.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
To your work.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I'm like, dude, what are you talking about? Door dash?
All right?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, come on.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
He told me I should just Uber, but that would
be sixty dollars per day and I can't afford that.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I feel unupported.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I get the situation sucks, But a couple of years ago,
when his car wasn't working, I let him use my car.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
He worked.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
He worked more back then, five days per week, so
I let him use it to go to work and
also to go out with friends and stuff. So I
feel I am not being reciprocated. He doesn't owe me
for that, But also he isn't willing to help me
out with this, and the inconvenience for letting me use
his car is much less for him because he'd be
sleeping when I was using it. Where do I go
(19:29):
from here? Am I asking or expecting too much, and
we do have some relevant comments, but real quick, Sami boy,
what do you think.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
So Opie's wrist is broken and she's essentially asking her
husband to drive her while her wrist is broken.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Or like use his car, which keep in mind she
let him in like a very so much Anario like
five years ago, she lent him her car.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
If you're not willing to learn stick shift for your
girl who has a broken risk, you don't deserve her.
He already knows it, but he just he just doesn't
like it. I would I would learn stick shift from
my girlfriend. Yeah he would, Yeah, I would. That's right.
I try to learn it. I mean I guess. I guess,
like Christian was my girlfriend before this girlfriend, and so
I did not learn stickfift for him. So he does
(20:14):
have pretty eyes, he does prettiest size in eighth grade.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Voted voted voted by eighth grade class.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
True, that's right, ladies and gentlemen. I agree.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
But let's see what the comments have to say. I
agree about that too, voted pretty size. I bet he
did have the prettiest dies. You know, exience, it's a fact,
it is a fact.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
You're right. I don't believe.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I know they're the prettiest eyes in eighth grade.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
There we go non debatable.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah it's not, it's not.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
But on to these debatable comments, ang Flew says, he
kind of does owe you, though, because a marriage is
a partnership, he does need to step up here really quick.
I actually did like Op's take on that where it's like,
hey help him because I wanted to help him. He
doesn't like it's not like a tit for task owing me.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I like that mindset.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Opie says, I agree he needs to step up by
he doesn't owe me. I mean I didn't let him
use my car, so one day I could throw it
in his face and be like, well.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I let you use my card.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
But also I did do that, and the inconvenience was
greater for me than it would be for him. Ang
flu responds, he owes you because you're his wife and
you need help that he can give.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Owes you, he should just like do it.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah, it's like that's the beauty of a partnership. As
you are, you want to help.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Things for each other. Yeah, you love each other.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
And again the context of he's literally a sleep so
it really would be very little skin off of his
nose for her to use the car, so it kind
of crazy. Zombie Nugget says he needs to step up
or GTFO tell him he's being immature and lame, and
if he doesn't let you use his car, you'll just
take time off from work and he can pay the bills.
(21:58):
Gar Raz honestly, honestly, considering you do all the yard work,
it shouldn't be a big ask.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Hope he applies to that.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
We can't make it on just his income alone, and
I won't be able to pay my part in full
if I have to spend sixty dollars per day on uber.
I don't know what he expects to happen. I also
don't do all the yard work. I was just doing
some and fell I was picking up sticks and leaves
from the winter so he could mow the lawn. And
then abject director seventy six to twenty six says, well,
(22:28):
that's the thing he needs to understand. If he doesn't
help you get to work, you don't work, and then
your part becomes his part. It would all be his
part to pay. Is that what he wants? And then
Aaron Hood says, why is he being such a weianer
about switching cars. It's completely logical to switch cars. We
do have an update. So kel K says he's cheating.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
That's what I don't want to. I don't want to
go straight to he's cheating. But I could see it.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
You know what, just because dogs are out, just because
dogs put my.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Dog barking out. Here we go, Here we go, boom,
that's how you end up on foot find there we go.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Just to just to continue our theme of opposite day,
I'm going to go for the hail Mary, he's cheating.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I'm just gonna go for it and see I'm going
to hope that's not true. I was right on the
hail Mary before you were, you were, You're gonna be.
And I'm going to anti your hail Mary. Here we
go and believe they're just safely at home, not copulating
with people outside their marriage.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Well, let's see who wins today, Chad. This will be
fun updates. So I got a lot of advice on
my last post, some helpful, some not a lot of
people slammed him for not working more.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I want to clear that up.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
He was working the same amount of hours as I was,
sometimes more, but his hours got cut at work. He's
been looking for a new job or a second one,
but hasn't had much luck. I know he has been
looking and putting in the effort. That is not an issue,
but I sat down with him and said that we
really need to talk about this because I had to
go to work today Monday. I sat down and told
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him I get he is having a hard time with
his hours being cut and trying to navigate the job markets.
But I have a good job and I need to
get there and I can't afford to uber a car.
While I heal, we need to find a solution. He
kept talking in circles with the same reasons that I
mentioned in the last post.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I don't like driving your car. Yeah, uh so I'm
not gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
How about you learn ud Come on.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I don't know exactly what I said, but it was
something along the lines of that is not good enough
for me. I don't accept those reasons, and I don't
think they're true. What is the actual reason we.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Are married and partners? Why am I left hanging like this?
WEA I hope it's not cheating. I really hope it's
not cheating. So he finally told me the truth.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Ah, since his hours got cut, he hasn't been maintaining
his car. He had savings and maintained his car when
he worked more, but when his hours got cut, he
started using his savings to pay his part of the bills,
and when it ran low, he finally let me readjust
our spending. I pushed for it from the starts, but
he refused. But when his savings ran low, his car
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started having problems and he couldn't afford to fix it.
He needs new tires, he needs new brakes that ac
has stopped working, and he also is well overdue for
an oil change. He used to keep up with his stuff,
but he hasn't because he's low on money. He was ashamed,
and he didn't want me to use his car or
ride in it because he didn't.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Want me to know how bad it was.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
But like that's kind of cute honestly, though, Like it's
it's it's just like a little bit tragic because it's
like here he is like suffering in silence when I'm
sure she would be like, hey, how can I lend
a hand to Hell? Yeah, I know it's whacked that
he didn't say anything, but I feel like this is
way better of a situation and an outcome and him cheating.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Better than cheating.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I will give beating. Hey, listen, there's still time. That's
like okay, So I.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Feel like that would be a great like milk, Like
try all to Dina milk. It's better than cheating.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
That is a grat sl you just put that on anything. Yeah,
it's better than cheating, maybe like a gym or something. Yeah,
don't don't go out and find a find a secret lover,
go out and go Oh, I know what you're saying.
Like it's kind of like a sosho milk, Like it's
just okay, but it's better than cheating.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Right, Yeah, yeah, we all know how great cheating is.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Samuel Donner twenty twenty five more quotes to the board.
So he was embarrassed, so he never bought it up.
So he has been driving an unsafe car and he
didn't want me to drive it. After a very long talk,
we came to a solution. I will buy him use tires.
They need to be done, but can wait a week
as we get the set up. Yesterday we replaced the
brake pads and did an oil change. I couldn't physically
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help but I read him the steps and looked at
things when he wasn't sure. Love the love, the teamwork
there he his dad also helped over FaceTime. Between our brains,
we figured it out. We decided not to mess with
the ac because that's a comfort thing and not necessary,
especially during this time of year. By the way, what
what is necessary at all points.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Of the year.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
I know what's necessary is listening.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
To Okay story Time on Spotify, Apple and I heart
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story Time.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
We've got two thousand episodes striking do it. We got
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By the way, guys, why aren't you listening as much
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Speaker 3 (27:33):
Comment on Spotify if you're listening right now, it's great
to be honest, We'll say hi. But we are nearing
the end of the story. How are we feeling about
the outcome of what has happened.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I'm glad he's not cheating. I'm glad you're still story
Leaf did not that's true. Story left right now, it's
feeling like you're hail Mary is not coming true. So
that that makes me happy. I'm staying confident, doubling down,
I am. I'm hoping. If you're Tom Brady, you're retiring
right now. You know what he's got to secret family,
got a secret family smooches just as much as his
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regular family. He's given. He's getting a little, little little
French kisses to every That's why I can't afford child
bank for a second. But he's smooching. Well, tom Brady
that he like kisses his kids on the lip.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Right, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Weird loves children, man, he loves he loves his kids.
To come on, I hate on a man for loving
his children. You know we're always saying men don't show affection.
Here tom Brady is being a beacon of light.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Oh sorry, kids too much, I'm okay, sure, all right,
Well tom Brady's arrest aside, let's uh, let's close out
of this story here.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
So in all, he was.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Having a private struggle I wasn't aware of. I usually
don't go in his car, so I never noticed. And
this morning he drove me to and from work. There
we go more teamwork and either he will drive me
or I will drive myself with his permission, depends on
the day. I knew he was struggling with a lack
of income, and I have been pushing and pushing for
him to let me do more, but he held out
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due to pride, and his car suffered, and honestly, I
think I might do the same thing.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I still feel a bit betrayed and the trust has.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Eroded a bit, but at the same time, I also
feel like I got closer to him. It's a weird
feeling I can't explain. But in the end, I can
get I can get to work with his help. And
we got a comment from Brainy Brink Pride in line
can unlive a relationship as quickly as cruelty. Unless your
husband sees that sharing burdens are the only way to
success as a married couple, he will sabotage the future.
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And fart Master Champ says, Wow.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
What a name, what a great username. Today, I want
to I want to name my first born that.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, fart Master art Master.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
He's going to be so not bullied in school. It's
gonna be great. No, I mean, Harold. It is a champion.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
He is far faster. Are you kidding me? They could?
It could work out. And yeah, dude, what's your name?
Art master cool skinzel so sick, so sick. I would
love I would love my kids to be like Bartholow
you and then or like his real name to be
Bartholomew and his nickname to be Brick. I just think
Brick is such a great name. What's your name for it? Brick? Like,
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come on, go straight forward? That is a good great.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Name, great name.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
But far master Stamp says, wait. So he was nasty
to his sick wife because he cared more about his pride.
She had to literally beg him to communicate what was
going on, and this was supposed to be a win
for the relationship. Waiting for a death, how about you?
Says exactly. And he would have encouraged her to waste
twelve hundred dollars in uber rides rather than use that
money to fix the dang car brow while he is
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fully aware they are struggling financially, all to cradle his ego.
At first, I was like, you know, I get that
he was embarrassed, not that he should have done That
doesn't excuse it in the slightest but yeah, I mean
the comments do bring up a good point of like, hey, look,
you were about to let her like burn all this
money when it's like you could have just put that
into your car. Yeah, and then you did all of
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this because to like protect your ego, like help, help,
don't don't hurt your wife quite literally in some cases, Uh, to.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Protect your ego. That's that's pretty whack, pretty whack. But uh,
I feel like you know, we're we're communicating, so we're
talking now. Yeah, we got there, and he's not cheating
as far as we know. There could always be an
update holding on to this, but that is where that
story ends. But yep, we got one s three baby. Anyway,
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let us get into this next story. Sam. Here, we're
gonna get back to the stories. But here's three of
its bads from our sponsor. I purposely make my wife
upset so she will clean the house more. That's terrible.
Stop that, I mean, but you gotta clean house, John,
Stop that trigger warning emotional abuse sounds like it shouldn't
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have last on that one anyway. Okay, this is crazy,
all right, So I know the title sounds bad, Yeah
it does, correct, but hear me out all right. I
twenty eight male, have been married to my wife Lindsay
twenty five female, for two years, who've been together for
seven years. Our marriage is great. Despite us both being
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busy with work, we still make time to go on
dates and be intimate with each other whenever we can.
By the way, this comes from Electronic Act seventy six
fifty eight and if you want to submit your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. So I
work at engineering and Lindsey is a registered nurse, so
I pay for most of the bills and utilities. We
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split the bills, but I pay for the majority of
the costs because I make more. Lindsay usually fully covers
grocery costs and the Wi Fi, which isn't much because
it's just the two of us. I feel that since
I make and spend more money, Lindsay should make up
for that in housework. I'm not some traditional wife desiring
a hole. I'm not wanting to do everything. Yeah, I
just wanted to do it all. I think it's great
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that she works and has goal for her career, you know,
unlike the women that I want in my life. I
want her to I swear I feel like our chores
are split fairly. It changes day by day depending on
our schedules, but typically Lindsay cooks our meals. He is
much better than me. I mean, of course, trust me,
you don't want me anywhere to your kitchen. Oh here,
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we got just make it worse. I'll just say it worse. Yeah,
you're so good at folding close babe, Like, oh no,
I mean, like you don't want me anywhere near to
those things. You're just so you're just you're just so
talented all that, and like, yeah, don't I wouldn't want to,
you wouldn't want me that. But it's a nothing fancy
or were crying a lot of effort. She does the
dishes and vacuums, but it's not daily. It's more like
as an as needed basis. I take out the trash
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weekly and wash our cars about once a month. This
has always seemed fair to me, but recently I've felt
frustrated with her. I've been at my current job for
six years and I've developed really great friendships in my time. There.
There's a few of us that always get together on
break for lunch and whatnot, and one of my coworkers,
John thirty five. Mail has been married to his wife,
Claire for about ten years, if my memory serves correctly.
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About a month ago, John invited me over and the
rest of the gang plus our wives to have dinner
at their house. Claire is a stay at home mom,
so she handles everything at home while John works and
brings home the bacon. I know this sounds bad, but
I was jealous. Man wants that bacon lifestyle. Not because
she's a traditional bacon freaking, freaking honey honey roasted Canadian ham. Oh.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I found good.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Not because she's a stay at home mom. I don't
want kids, but because John is a wife that actually
puts effort into her food and cleaning and mine just
does it in an as need basis. Yeah, their house
was immaculate, completely spotle, no dishes left in the sink,
little nick knacks left out on the countertops, nothing. I
couldn't believe it. Claire set the table and waited on everyone.
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She was thoughtful and made sure everyone's glasses were always
full and would ask if she could get us more food.
You're describing waitress.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
He's like, guys, I don't want the like stereotypical, like
traditional wife it's like waiting on me hand and foot.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
But I want that if only I had a woman
who's waiting on me. Need it so bad, But.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
My wife needs to step it up.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
She made flaming yawn with mashed potatoes and roasted vegetables. Oh,
it was amazing. And I can't remember the last time
Lindsay put any effort into our meals. It's always something
lazy like pasta, a lot of chicken centered meals, tacos,
case diaz, everything requiring a little to no effort. On
the drive home, Lindsay made a comment about how Claire
is an amazing cook and said she would like to
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have dinner with them again because they're great people. I
agree with her and said something wrong lines you ready
for it, freaking go, we're locked and load drop it.
We're locked and freaking loaded. Also, Samantha al says she works, Yeah,
she's a registered nurse. Again, he works. So I said
something along the lines of, you, could, you know, be
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a little bit more adventurous with your meal choices so
we can eat good at home too. The thought and bye, gosh,
by golly, did this woman take offense to this? And
said she didn't realize her food was so bad. I
said it wasn't but it was nothing compared to Oh no,
because she puts effort, but I feel the love in
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every dish. She stopped talking to me and was pouting
like a child. She went to bed without speaking to
me that night. I ended up apologizing the next day
when she got home and she forgave me. Fast forward
a week later, and I became more and more frustrated.
She was working twelve hour shifts. Where's my freaking pasta?
Where's my Filamigno fell her sist more than usual. As
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a result, her house works suffered.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Oh my god, But she's bringing in the same amount
of money now.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
She has to be making good money with this twelve
hours is a nurse. But yeah, I think she's still
not making as much as him. She would leave at
seven am and come home at seven pm, and on
some nights she went straight to bed without making dinner.
Good good, All right, If you're making so much money,
my guy, there's this little thing, your secret, A little secret.
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I'm gonna put you on Uber eats.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Oh my god, boom, I just saved the marriage. Call
me doctor house.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
But I'm a caveman.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I don't understand, but I just save a marriage.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Also, where I'm from, if you say another woman's food
is better than your wives, that's cheating.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
So Sophia Colan agreeing with.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
You shut out.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I ended up getting takeout on those nights. Dishes were
piling up in the sink, the carpets were becoming noticeably dirty,
and she just sat in bed, scrolling on her phone
or sleeping. I tried to be understanding at first. At
this point, she's used to working twelve hour shifts, so
there's really no excuse. Oh my god. I ended up
having a talk with her and was brutally honest. I
told her I'm not satisfied with her level of housework anymore,
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and I want her to do more. I want her
to come home and make dinner, and I wanted to
put more effort into it. I gave her some examples
of meals I would like to eat, and suggestions for
a way that she can clean before going to bed,
such as drinking coffee or energy drinks on the way home.
Oh no, no, just drink some coffee. Oh god. I
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thought she was receptive to my ideas at first, but
then this guy is a regular sherlock. I realized she
looked pissed. Using my power as abduction and observation, she
very coldly asked me if I feel this way because
of John's wife, and I answered honestly, and I said yes.
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I told her I would be embarrassed if my friends
came over to have dinner with us after that dinner
at John's.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Oh my god, you did.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
She started tearing up when I said this, and I
felt kind kind of, kind of bad for being so harsh.
She didn't say a word to me and just left
the room. I came out a short while later and
saw her manically scrubbing a stain out of the carpet
on her hands and knees, still crying. I asked her
what she was doing, and she screed, what does it
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look like? You at big a hole? The stain she
was scrubbing was pretty much gone, but she continued for
what felt like ours. I started feeling sorry for pushing
her to that point, but then I remembered something.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Oh, oh, what do you remember, buddy?
Speaker 3 (39:32):
What idea popped into your freaking brain, your peace size
little noodle up there, something that could work out great
for me?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Or so horribly wrong.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
No.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
When she was in high school, she was in a
psych wart. She told me she used to neglect herself
when she felt really depressed, but after being in the war,
she obviously cleans which she feels depressed or overwhelmed because
of the habits they drilled into her. I almost felt
like a DC villain because of the huge smirk that
crept on my face. The next night, she got home
at seven pm. I told her I had something to
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confess to her, and she was like petrified. I told
her I was sorry, but I watched Corn while she
was at work because I was lonely. He ended up
throwing up from crying so much. But just as I thought,
she started cleaning. This guy's evil. This guy's evil. Dude,
what what this guy's evil? If we didn't think he
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was evil before? Oh my god, she washed all the
dishes by hand. That's how I like it. I don't
want some robot washing my dishes. I want blood, sweat,
my wife, blood sweat and tears on these dishes. Instead
of using the dishwasher, he dusted everything, every fan, every
TV screen, every shelf. I didn't want it to be
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too obvious, so I started limiting this trick four times
a week max. Skip to present day. I made a
joke at lunch with my coworkers about how I trained
my wife to love cleaning. Everyone was laughing and asked
for the secret, so I said, all I gotta do
is make her cry and she wants to clean. Please
please come for this, man, please please do it. Coworkers
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Daniel asked me what I mean. I told him how
her response to being upset is to clean, so I've
been upsetting her on purpose. Everyone was silent while I
was still laughing. Adam asked why in a very unamused tone.
I spilled the beans about how Claire. It made me
realize how unmotivated my wife is. I wish Lindsey was
more like her. The rest of lunch was pretty awkward,
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and I felt like I made everyone uncomfortable. Yeah, man again,
this nothing gets past this guy.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Bro is God. I can't even.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
I ended up texting John to ask if I did
something wrong because he didn't come buy my station before
leaving like he usually does. He told me he felt
really weird about the way I was treating my wife
and idealizing his He told me I was being an
a hole and emotionally abusing her when I should just communicate.
I argued against this because I did communicate. I told
her exactly what I wanted from her, and all make
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uses about being tired from work and eating sleep. Even
suggested that I should clean more if the state of
the house bothers me so much, and then I should
learn to cook before criticizing her. We would not be
able to afford the house we live in if it
weren't for me. The lifestyle we live is because of
me to why can't you just show appreciation by cleaning
and cooking better meals. It's been three days now and
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I am now sitting alone at lunch. When I sit
with my usual group, everyone stops talking. I feel like
I really fed up and want to make things right
with my friends. Same time, I feel like what I'm
doing is okay because it's not for no reason. He's
actually cleaning more and I'm so proud of her. Am
I the A hole? Because I want to keep doing it?
And there's an edit and there's an update, But is op?
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This is the clearest the A hole?
Speaker 3 (42:47):
You are the A hole in human space, time continuum history.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
You need to.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Marry a f doll and a maid because that robot.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Actually, you just need a robot because I always say this,
if you make such good money a pair apparently op
before this lifestyle, would you not want to, you know,
get cleaning, buy food or whatever so you could spend
more time with the person who's supposed to be your
best friend.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Why would you not want that? I mean, he just
wants someone he can control. He wants someone he can
control and be. He wants a maid. He wants a maid.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
And he is doing some disgusting ways to coerce his wife.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Into becoming that.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
And then we got it at it please, and we
got an update. So I understand that I'm the a
hole now. No, this is not faked. We're sorry to
bring up, sorry to deprive you of that comfort. It's
impossible not to recognize something is wrong with you when
a good eighty percent of the commenters are calling faker,
hoping it is. I understand now that I mentally mistreated
my wife, and I do want to fix it. Thank
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you to the two people who actually took the time
to offer constructive feedback and advice. As much as I
hate the thought, I'm going to seek out a professional.
It is impossible for everyone to be wrong, and I'm right,
even though that's what my brain is telling me. I
know something is wrong with me, even though my brain
is saying there isn't. Thank you all for helping me
realize it. As per request, I will update in the
future if there's any update, and there is an update, dude.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Before this happened, I remember scrolling on like TikTok and
there was like.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Hey, girls, what's like a way for your a trick.
Speaker 4 (44:26):
You guys do with your husband? And I was reading
the comments. All of them were like placebo effect. It's like, oh, yeah,
if he cleans, I give him the Like if he
does this, I give him the And I thought this
was what it was going to be, like oh yeah,
she cleans, so I would give her the.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
This is not the case. Not the case. Not so update. Hi,
it's been a while. I don't have a lot to say,
but I was asked to update if I ever did
try therapy and I did. I like it.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
I dropped out of individual therapy after like foo sessions.
My therapist was more interested in my childhood than giving
me actual advice, but stuck with couples therapies. Okay, I try.
I really did the therapist, and my wife would gang
up on me. The therapist changed my wife a lot.
She went from being kind and soft spoken to rude
and brazen. She would snap on me for absolutely nothing,
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constantly bring up things I've done in the past, used
against being an argument to try to make me submit.
Remember how my wife is an RN. Yeah, well she
was effing cheating on me with some ugly see you
next Tuesday, working the same shifts as her. She confessed
that in therapy and said if I could forgive her,
she could forgive me for all the things I've done.
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This is who's worse.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
I mean, okay, So here's the thing that you know,
cheating is never okay, But I would guess she was.
She had someone who's actually showing her some sort of
interest and compassion and whatever at work, being in this
insanely toxic relationship, and instead of doing what she should
have done, which is freaking run out the door and
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then maybe find this person later out. She Yeah, whether
it was acting out, whether it was like, oh, this
is someone who's actually showing interest me, whatever it is, ah,
but I mean, even the idea too of like, oh,
all you know, wipe your wipe your crimes. If you
wipe mind, It's like, no, that is not going to
fix the under the issue.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
She's not at all, just lee soez, I have never
been close to this, I've never cheated and vows me nothing. Apparently,
he also shaid a lot of things she never told me,
like her last grandparent passing away and her words he
wouldn't care. Yes, I would have if she told me
she had no reason not to, I would have been
I wouldn't have been so harsh about housework if I
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knew she was grieving. But no, go ahead, please don't
tell me anything and then use it against me later,
because that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
I disagree that he cheated. He coveted another man's wife.
I was like, you need to be more like this,
more like this, more like this, and then emotionally manipulated
her to do that.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Yeah, it's so same page.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
It's yeah, I thought couple therapists were supposed to be neutral.
Isn't their entire purpose bringing couples together and helping them
understand each other? Since when do they call their clients manipulative?
How is that allowed? By the way, if you want
to be manipulated by us positively. Yes, usually listen to
full episodes with stories just like this. We'll go to Spotify,
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Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app and just search. Okay, storytime,
there's another relevant update. Hey it's Sam. We're going to
get back to these stories. But here's three minutes of
ads from our sponsors. I'm just going to go straight
into it a leap. Anyways, back to the bee wife. I
can't forgive a cheater. He's staying with her parents for
now as we are separated. I don't want her back
in my house. It makes sense now why she didn't
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want to have spicy sleep anymore. We stop going on dates. Intimacy.
Our intimacy suffered all because she cheated. Therapy was a
waste of time and money, but I guess it was
worth it in the end because I learned what kind
of person she really is. He discussed me. I did
not want therapy, but I try my best for her
and to change that is clearly not what you wanted
because she cheated. I learned the information last month and
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I finally have come to terms with it. My friends,
I'm still cool with a few of them, Others clearly
looking down on me. So I don't interact with them anymore.
But we don't eat lunch together anymore. I sit elsewhere
now and it's not too bad. Honestly, I'm meeting new people.
Maybe I'll find love again soon. But who knows my
witch in Espanol? Oh, my reputation at work in regards
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to personal matters is kind of crap. Now. Well that's
really it. Thank you all for reading. And we got
a couple comments. I'm going to read.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
But I don't really feel too bad for this guy.
I don't feel bad in the slightest. He needs more
terrible things to happen.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Comma, one karma came to bite you in the butt.
I do not blame your wife one little bit for
cheating on you. Good for her. You deserved it because
you are a harmful, disgusting human being who does not
deserve to have anyone love you. Not pulling any punch
up there, I hope, he responds. It makes sense. It
makes no sense how you all are justifying this. Why
not leave me? Why I go to therapy with me
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just to cheat on me and see if I'll forgive you?
How does that make sense? Hurt herself more in the process.
I've seen the burman he slept with, and trust me,
that's not much speak of. I'm honestly embarrassed for her.
Speaker 4 (49:08):
Oh my gosh, another part of me. A lot of
people were saying, she didn't even cheat. She's brought up
You brought up that you watched corn and then made
her compulsively vomit.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Maybe she just did that to see what you would do.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
Yeah, yeah, I mean again, I don't think chating is good,
but this guy definitely wasn't laying groundwork for a great
that's comment two. I don't know. Mental abuse seems pretty
on par, if not worse than keating for me. In
comment three, everyone told him at last on the last
post that you can only chip away at someone mentally
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for so long before they recognize you're bad for them
and move on. Then she does exactly that, and he's
shocked in rage and still can't look into the mirror
to find any fault with himself. There's no way the
cleaning was the first time he acted like a piece
of poop. The way he described himself smiling at a
cartoon villain. That's someone who is very comfortable coming up
with plans for manipulation. Good riddance. I'm glad your wife
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is going to get to live her best life. And
I hope you contain yourself from the general public to
minimize future harm. And that is where that story and
this episode ends.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Oh, put him in a box.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Let's put him in a box. I can't talk to
and Wow, watch alone for eternity. That guy is terrible.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
That is correct. Yeah, true, statement has never been said.
Andrea mar thanks for a two box. She one didn't cheat,
he lied to play victim. I would not be surprised
in the slightest yet. That man is a piece of poopy.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Yep. Just remember don't allow that kind of poopy in
your life. You should only date people that bring joy
and love your life. A little little raised sunshine can
go chay on my girl. Yea. But that is where
this story, in this episode ends. So if you love us,
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We love you and seem
Hey, this is Sam, this is John. We're the ancient
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for the next two minutes or so. My husband's ex
wife lost her high paying job. Now my children's education
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is in jeopardy. Not the kids. Doo doo doo doo
doo doo doo. I am forty two female with two
children sixteen female and twelve male with my ex Danny.
I have been married to Greg, forty four male, who
had a son fifteen male and daughter ten female with
his Exlia. We met at our children's school. Danny and
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I jointly fund our children's private school and they have
college funds set up by both sets of grandparents. He
is loaded. Oh yeah, by the way, this comes from
not a doormat at Naomi. And if you want some
of your own stories, go to the r slash Okay
story Time. So illbredd it. So my ex and I
don't like each other, but we copare it well. And
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want the best for the kids. Greg and I have
decided that the things we buy and treat kids with
are equal at home, but school and college funds won't
be mixed as our exes are involved, as well as
gifts from ex partners. We've had to teach the kids
the differences about the income when it comes to my
ex's kids. The kids are nice to each other and
share things, although they definitely love their bio siblings way more.
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Greg and his ex jointly fund their children's education too,
but Lyya lost her job recently and has had to downgrade.
That means they can't pay for the same school. They
had to change schools. Now. He is pressuring me that
his kids hate that my children go to a bigger
international school and we should change schools after summer. So
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basically asking to compromise on their child's education because they
can't afford it. The grandparents are of that so Greg
and his ex op is forty two female, Yes right
has an ex Danny. Greg has an ex Layah. Greg
and Op he are together and and partner yep and
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Liyah has a partner and Danny has a partner right
So and also the grandparents have like Danny and them
fund the children's private school. The Danny her ex and Danny.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Is loaded, right, we are caught up.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Let me know if we need to bring out the whiteboard.
So basically, and then what happened is Greg and his
ex we're doing, you know, private school. But then Liya
Joss's job couldn't lost her job and they couldn't afford
it anymore. And Greg's like, you should you should downgrade too,
And this is like Opie and Greg are currently dating. Yes,
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so I told him that my kids' education can't be compromised,
and it was clear to us that we are responsible
for our children's school as well as college education. We
are fighting a lot on this, and he is saying
I'm being too tough. He's sleeping in the other room.
But I won't change anything regarding my children, and my
ex alone can pay for the children's education even if
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I try to do this. And also, my kids will
never forgive me. I love Greg, but this is the
hill I will pass away on. I don't think you
would have changed his kids' schools if this were the case.
On my side, even if it means I have to
lose him, I'm hurting inside, but I want the best
for my children. There is an edit, There is an update,
but yeah, John, what do you think about this so far?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I mean basically you shouldn't have to change your I
think like the shid is like if the scenario was reversed, like,
would you say the same thing.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah, No, you should never compromise your children's education.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, definitely not definitely not so edit.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I can't take the solo decision on my children's education.
My ex will drag me to court and mine wash
the kids against me. And second, stop sending spicy sleep messages.
I am not interested in cheating on my husband. Oh no,
And everyone says Opie is not the a hole, but
there are some relevant comments, So this is the downvoted commenter.
Everyone's the a hole. Honestly, it just seems like a
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pride thing. If you were able to help Bridge a
year for his kids, that would be appropriate given your
their step mother and Greg's wife. If his X couldn't
get another job, then switching makes sense. If all this
was couched, as your ex is effectively paying for your children,
it might hurt Greg's feelings if you can't keep up,
but I think the kids would understand even if they're
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not happy. There just seems to be too many emotions
and strong feelings now wrapped up in the discussions hope.
He responds, there is no pride here. First, my ex
will never accept my terms, and he will tell the
kids that I wanted to change their schools. He will
never agree to it. If I'm just trying to please
my husband. After paying for kids, I contribute equally to
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household budget. We have our retirement plans, and there isn't
much money left at the end of the month. I
can't just bring money out of nowhere to pay for
their schools. My eldest has entered eleventh grade, and this
school's main focus is on getting kids to top colleges
in my country. Uprooting the kids will cause more damage
to their career aspects, and I can't compromise on their future.
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I want them to have success in life, and this
school opens doors like no one else in our area. Yeah,
I mean especially like eleventh grade. That's that's that's junior
year right when you're applying to college. Is to pull
them out now, it would be ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, it would be a huge, huge uproot of not
just their life and like some of the final most
like pivotal shaping moments before they go into adulthood. But
also they're like future chances of success in their career
and yeah, all that jazz being commentor too.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
The generous thing to do would be to help pay
for his kids schooling until their mother can step back up.
Being the better person versus passing away on hills is
something to consider given the long term effect of the situation,
Opi responds. The thing is, we don't have much money
left after all expenses. I can't afford it. I don't
have extra money lying around. I contribute equally to household
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budget and our retirements. How long has Ope been with Greg,
Opi responds five years in another downloaded comment, he should
have found someone who would love his kids as their own.
If those were both of their kids, they would be paying. Again,
this is not about Ope not loving these her step kids.
It's more that she has an agreement with her ex
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partner on how their kids should be parented together and
ultimately on the biological parents or like the people that
are stewarding the children and the the uh, not the
biological parents, but the the the legal parents. Yeah, the
legal parents to advocate for what they want for their children.
(06:36):
And if the dad doesn't want his kids moving schools
and the kids don't want them the moving schools, then
I don't see any reason for this to change. You know,
I agree if those were both of their kids, they
would both be paying the emotional damage that this is
going to cause. Is going to put his kid in therapy,
and she couldn't care less. From reading here, I feel
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incredibly sad for single parents who have the response its
ability to find someone who is going to love their
kids as their own. An OPI response. I love my
step children, but from where can I bring the money
from trees? How can I control my ax? He can
afford to send my kids to Harvard. He will give
my son a BMW when he turns eighteen. How do
you expect me to compete with that? How can I
control it? Tell me Sherlock. I care for them, but
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some things aren't in my hands, which include my excess
decisions regarding our children. I gift same things to each kid.
I contribute more than half of our budget for the household.
I don't have extra cash lying around in another downpoad
to comment, have you asked your kids or children what
they wanted. I personally think it's toxic that this is
not mentioned and that this is really the only thing
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that matters. Man, there's a lot of rough comments in here,
throwing shots today. Yeah, OPI responds. They don't want to
leave their school. They have their friends there and their
dad study there. He will never take them away from
the school. And there is a big, fat, juicy update.
Nanta Lisa Chreila says he is not a single dad.
(08:04):
There is a mom in the picture. Yeah, neither of
them are single parents. Both of them have an AX
in the picture. But yeah, what what do you think?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, I mean it's about supporting the kids at the
end of the day, right, So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And I just I feel like it's it's just ridiculous
to ask to jeopardize a child's education to make it equal,
you know, like, yeah, it just doesn't doesn't make anything.
It makes it makes it.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
You should want the absolute best in whatever that scenario
ends up being for any given child. If that opportunity
is available, if they opportunity is there, take it.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
So update. I got lots of support as well as criticism.
People told me I should have married a rich guy again. Sorry,
love doesn't ask for a bank balance. Some said I
am an evil step mother. I pay more than a
half of the household bills. I pay for the mortgage.
I don't have much extra money left, and I have
personal expenses too. Should I stop living at all? I
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have to address decently at the office, have to buy
things for myself, and my ex will drag me to
court if I even dare change it, and my kids
will hate me. I can't lose them, so anyway, here's
the update. After I made this shread the same day,
I told Greg that I can't continue. I told him
that my ex will never agree, nor will I agree
to it. I told him, is there any aid the
school could provide to the kids. He told me that
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his ex and him asked the school and they refused.
I told him that if he is going to fight
me over this every day, we better split up. His
expectations are going over the top. Tomorrow, Danny might gift
expensive cars to our kids. Do we have to sell
a kidney to give the same cars to the step children? Tomorrow?
He transfers businesses to his kids, would we expect them
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to give shares to step children? He apologized and said
he doesn't want to leave me. He cried and we
had a heart to heart. The next day we invited
Leah and we devised a plan. Leah also has lots
of debt and she is with all his salary changes
and little compromises here, like one vacation of a year
rather than two, we can afford fees for the elder
step child. I will contribute some to it too, Greg Sun,
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who is fifteen and is in tenth class, so we
can afford his fees for three years. Ten female would
still need to go to a cheaper school for three
years if Leah's and Greg's financial condition doesn't change, which
might change in the future. But when her brother passes
out in three years, he will transfer back to a
better school again. We talked to the school again and
he is transferring back in a few days. So basically
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one kid is going to get the private school like
you know, full education. The other kid is not. But
it matters less because the kid is like younger yeah,
but ten yeah, yeah. The kid is happy and even
though the stepdaughter is a little sad, we cheered her
up and will try to make it up to her
in other ways. I know many asked to divorce, but
even a bad person. Yes, he reacted harshly, but he
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apologized to my kids and me. This is it for now.
Thanks for positive comment and suggestion. Take care. There is
an edit and there is more to this story. But
do you think op is making the right decision in
not divorcing?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I mean it seems like they have finally come to
an understanding. I mean, what's the whole point of Like
so many issues on this show where it's like, hey,
come together, fully communicate, realize where each other is standing from,
and then work together to find the solution.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
It seems like they have done that.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, and they are doing that.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, And it seems like Greg is genuinely remorseful. It
seems so far. Time will tell. We've seen you know, some.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Crocodile plans are crap again exactly, Winston Churchill said, indeed, so.
But as long as I think this kind of continues,
then I think we could be looking good. All right, Well,
we got an edit. So also to add people making
assumptions that I am taking from my children, No, my
post is about education of our kids and our agreement.
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If I was the only one paying fees, I would
have never accepted Greg's ultimatum. I would have chosen divorce
to stop, assuming nothing has been taken from my children.
And someone in my very first comment said, I do
bare minimum for the kids and the ex does the
heavy load. My ex earned millions. How could you expect
me to compete. I pay for things in my capacity.
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I do savings for them and many other activities. If
that is bare minimum, then so be it. This forum
people are hypocrites. If I find a solution, I become
suddenly a bad bother. If I don't, I am an
evil step mom. My contribution is very less to stepson's
private school, and it doesn't affect our budget or my
children's needs. Greg also does a lot of things for
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my kids and they have a good relationship. But my
post wasn't about that, and I have a final edit.
Keep crying under my comments. I won't change a thing
or two. Lol. We're all happy with this, and my
children are well taken care of and stepdaughter will be
back to a top school after a few years. People
with pathetic mentality will find negatives in everything. Stay mad Chow.
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I think this is a person that has not experienced
the wrath of Reddit before.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
No, no, this is like someone definitely new to the
internet and like new to Reddit.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, but funny.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I love seeing the innocence in the reaction of the
nascent reddit user.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
You know what I mean. That's fun.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
So your compromise is degrading every kid's education to make
equal with the stepdaughter. There is no gender bias. If
the elder was a girl, she'd have got preference over
a younger brother. She will be back to a top
school at thirteen again or maybe earlier. It isn't a
perfect solution, but a middle one. His college prep will
start from next year, so he has one extra year,
and stepdaughter will be back to the same private school
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at the age of thirteen and will get the same
college prep. Here, elder kid is given preference because of
college chances and circumstances. A fifth class isn't as important
as college preparation. There is no gender bias. By the way,
I am not biased when I say the best podcast
you could possibly listen to. To listen to full episodes
of stories just like this, it's Okay Storytime. So just
(14:02):
search on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app.
Okay Storytime. There's another relevant update, But let's discuss what
do you think about where we're landing here with our
peeved hero.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Here, Opie's heated, but in action, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I mean, we talked with Greg.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
It seems like we came to an understanding, put together
a plan, put that plan into action.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Kids, are you know?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I think Opie says, not, you know, not perfect, but
it's a it's like a middle a middle ground.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Plan where we are still a middle ground plan.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, yeah, it's still it's still I think it's smart.
You know, We're still We're still using our resources effectively
and I think ultimately able to give all the children
like the best with with what's at hand. And this
is evasive maneuvering, parenting and action in a good.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Way, any good good way. Yeah, I agree, I agree,
And yes, schooling matters here. It is in America where
public schools are best. Private schools decide your best college opportunity.
And some are saying stepdaughter will resent if she's gonna
resent me in the future, it's up to her. I'm
not going to listen to tantrums. I'm doing what is
possible in my capacity, and we will provide her with
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the same opportunities in three years, but his elder siblings
career is on the line. A college is more important
than fifth class, as simple as that, at acceptable concern,
Stop spamming my mentions. There's no gender bias here. Only
elder sibling is given more chance right now, regardless of gender. Sorry.
If you think loving kids is being a doormat, you
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guys were never given love God. Your negative replies won't
change my stands. And I know what I'm doing. If
you think my husband is using me, I am not
here to change your mind. I know what he does
for me and has done for me in my whole life.
Money isn't the end of the world. And we are
happy overall. Chow, and I hope that is the last
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chow we see from Opie because man is getting he
did just fire and all he did. Oh man, chat
dud dude. I feel like Reddit was hitting her with
every little thing under under the book, like your husband's
using you, your daughter's gonna hate you, You're a bad
step mom, like why are you You're you're sexist for
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favoring your dought. They were hitting.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Her with the book and you know, and you know
what happened too, because not every op collapse back as
hard as this ope.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
So I think everyone's like, oh.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Oh you want to go, you go, baby, you can't.
I mean it's like, where is fighting with I feel
like fighting with with like redditors in the comments is
like going up against a zombie horde with your fists.
Like you're gonna be versus a gorilla. Yeah, You're just
You're just gonna get tossed.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
It's just gonna be crazy. It's just what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
But that was the end of that story. Oh not
the end of this episode. Let's freaking do this thing
about I'm being home. My husband refused to drive me
to work even though my wrist is broken. Uh drive yourself.
One hand can work, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
There it is so.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
A couple of days ago, I was doing yard work
and I tripped, fell and broke my wrist. It's in
a cast and will be for at least four weeks.
I work full time in person about thirty minutes away
from home, and I took the last two days off
from work, but I need to go back on Monday.
I can't drive my car because it's stick shift and
the wrist I broke is on the arm I used
to shift. That is stick shift is rough because it
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could have been like the other arm and could have
a man. I can't grab the shifter to change gears,
so I can't drive it. My husband drives an automatic,
and while it wouldn't be the greatest thing, I could
drive it. By the way, this comes from a throwaway,
broken driver And if you want submit your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay storytime to separated it.
So I asked him if he would mind switching cars
with me until I am able to shift gears again.
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He said no because he doesn't like driving my car.
In fairness, yes it's our Christian. Our roommate has a
stick shift car and we'll park it in front of
my car and I am afraid to move that thing.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
But are you married to Christian?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
In some ways? I am?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
In some ways I am now. I taught him how
and he's used it before. He just doesn't like it.
So I asked if he would drive me to and
from work at least a few times per week. He
also said no because he doesn't want to wake up early. Well, dang,
the works three shifts per week in the evenings. I
would be home with his car before we had to
leave for work. He would also have to drive me
home from work without being late. I am also the
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bread warner and we need the money that I make
from working. He told me I should just Uber, but
it erect. I thought he was saying, like, just oh,
just quit your job and drive Uber. It's like take
an Uber.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
To your work.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I'm like, dude, what are you talking about? Door dash?
All right?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, come on.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
He told me I should just Uber, but that would
be sixty dollars per day and I can't afford that.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I feel unupported.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I get the situation sucks, But a couple of years ago,
when his car wasn't working, I let him use my car.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
He worked.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
He worked more back then, five days per week, so
I let him use it to go to work and
also to go out with friends and stuff. So I
feel I am not being reciprocated. He doesn't owe me
for that, But also he isn't willing to help me
out with this, and the inconvenience for letting me use
his car is much less for him because he'd be
sleeping when I was using it. Where do I go
(19:29):
from here? Am I asking or expecting too much, and
we do have some relevant comments, but real quick, Sami boy,
what do you think.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
So Opie's wrist is broken and she's essentially asking her
husband to drive her while her wrist is broken.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Or like use his car, which keep in mind she
let him in like a very so much Anario like
five years ago, she lent him her car.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
If you're not willing to learn stick shift for your
girl who has a broken risk, you don't deserve her.
He already knows it, but he just he just doesn't
like it. I would I would learn stick shift from
my girlfriend. Yeah he would, Yeah, I would. That's right.
I try to learn it. I mean I guess. I guess,
like Christian was my girlfriend before this girlfriend, and so
I did not learn stickfift for him. So he does
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have pretty eyes, he does prettiest size in eighth grade.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Voted voted voted by eighth grade class.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
True, that's right, ladies and gentlemen. I agree.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
But let's see what the comments have to say. I
agree about that too, voted pretty size. I bet he
did have the prettiest dies. You know, exience, it's a fact,
it is a fact.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
You're right. I don't believe.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I know they're the prettiest eyes in eighth grade.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
There we go non debatable.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah it's not, it's not.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
But on to these debatable comments, ang Flew says, he
kind of does owe you, though, because a marriage is
a partnership, he does need to step up here really quick.
I actually did like Op's take on that where it's like,
hey help him because I wanted to help him. He
doesn't like it's not like a tit for task owing me.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I like that mindset.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Opie says, I agree he needs to step up by
he doesn't owe me. I mean I didn't let him
use my car, so one day I could throw it
in his face and be like, well.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I let you use my card.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
But also I did do that, and the inconvenience was
greater for me than it would be for him. Ang
flu responds, he owes you because you're his wife and
you need help that he can give.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Owes you, he should just like do it.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah, it's like that's the beauty of a partnership. As
you are, you want to help.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Things for each other. Yeah, you love each other.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
And again the context of he's literally a sleep so
it really would be very little skin off of his
nose for her to use the car, so it kind
of crazy. Zombie Nugget says he needs to step up
or GTFO tell him he's being immature and lame, and
if he doesn't let you use his car, you'll just
take time off from work and he can pay the bills.
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Gar Raz honestly, honestly, considering you do all the yard work,
it shouldn't be a big ask.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Hope he applies to that.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
We can't make it on just his income alone, and
I won't be able to pay my part in full
if I have to spend sixty dollars per day on uber.
I don't know what he expects to happen. I also
don't do all the yard work. I was just doing
some and fell I was picking up sticks and leaves
from the winter so he could mow the lawn. And
then abject director seventy six to twenty six says, well,
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that's the thing he needs to understand. If he doesn't
help you get to work, you don't work, and then
your part becomes his part. It would all be his
part to pay. Is that what he wants? And then
Aaron Hood says, why is he being such a weianer
about switching cars. It's completely logical to switch cars. We
do have an update. So kel K says he's cheating.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
That's what I don't want to. I don't want to
go straight to he's cheating. But I could see it.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
You know what, just because dogs are out, just because
dogs put my.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Dog barking out. Here we go, Here we go, boom,
that's how you end up on foot find there we go.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Just to just to continue our theme of opposite day,
I'm going to go for the hail Mary, he's cheating.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I'm just gonna go for it and see I'm going
to hope that's not true. I was right on the
hail Mary before you were, you were, You're gonna be.
And I'm going to anti your hail Mary. Here we
go and believe they're just safely at home, not copulating
with people outside their marriage.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Well, let's see who wins today, Chad. This will be
fun updates. So I got a lot of advice on
my last post, some helpful, some not a lot of
people slammed him for not working more.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I want to clear that up.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
He was working the same amount of hours as I was,
sometimes more, but his hours got cut at work. He's
been looking for a new job or a second one,
but hasn't had much luck. I know he has been
looking and putting in the effort. That is not an issue,
but I sat down with him and said that we
really need to talk about this because I had to
go to work today Monday. I sat down and told
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him I get he is having a hard time with
his hours being cut and trying to navigate the job markets.
But I have a good job and I need to
get there and I can't afford to uber a car.
While I heal, we need to find a solution. He
kept talking in circles with the same reasons that I
mentioned in the last post.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I don't like driving your car. Yeah, uh so I'm
not gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
How about you learn ud Come on.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I don't know exactly what I said, but it was
something along the lines of that is not good enough
for me. I don't accept those reasons, and I don't
think they're true. What is the actual reason we.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Are married and partners? Why am I left hanging like this?
WEA I hope it's not cheating. I really hope it's
not cheating. So he finally told me the truth.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Ah, since his hours got cut, he hasn't been maintaining
his car. He had savings and maintained his car when
he worked more, but when his hours got cut, he
started using his savings to pay his part of the bills,
and when it ran low, he finally let me readjust
our spending. I pushed for it from the starts, but
he refused. But when his savings ran low, his car
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started having problems and he couldn't afford to fix it.
He needs new tires, he needs new brakes that ac
has stopped working, and he also is well overdue for
an oil change. He used to keep up with his stuff,
but he hasn't because he's low on money. He was ashamed,
and he didn't want me to use his car or
ride in it because he didn't.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Want me to know how bad it was.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
But like that's kind of cute honestly, though, Like it's
it's it's just like a little bit tragic because it's
like here he is like suffering in silence when I'm
sure she would be like, hey, how can I lend
a hand to Hell? Yeah, I know it's whacked that
he didn't say anything, but I feel like this is
way better of a situation and an outcome and him cheating.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Better than cheating.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I will give beating. Hey, listen, there's still time. That's
like okay, So I.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Feel like that would be a great like milk, Like
try all to Dina milk. It's better than cheating.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
That is a grat sl you just put that on anything. Yeah,
it's better than cheating, maybe like a gym or something. Yeah,
don't don't go out and find a find a secret lover,
go out and go Oh, I know what you're saying.
Like it's kind of like a sosho milk, Like it's
just okay, but it's better than cheating.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Right, Yeah, yeah, we all know how great cheating is.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Samuel Donner twenty twenty five more quotes to the board.
So he was embarrassed, so he never bought it up.
So he has been driving an unsafe car and he
didn't want me to drive it. After a very long talk,
we came to a solution. I will buy him use tires.
They need to be done, but can wait a week
as we get the set up. Yesterday we replaced the
brake pads and did an oil change. I couldn't physically
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help but I read him the steps and looked at
things when he wasn't sure. Love the love, the teamwork
there he his dad also helped over FaceTime. Between our brains,
we figured it out. We decided not to mess with
the ac because that's a comfort thing and not necessary,
especially during this time of year. By the way, what
what is necessary at all points.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Of the year.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
I know what's necessary is listening.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
To Okay story Time on Spotify, Apple and I heart
where you're listening to podcasts and just just search Okay
story Time.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
We've got two thousand episodes striking do it. We got
episodes that will worm their way into your little ear holes. Yes.
By the way, guys, why aren't you listening as much
on the pod like we have many more people on
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us on the pod.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Comment on Spotify if you're listening right now, it's great
to be honest, We'll say hi. But we are nearing
the end of the story. How are we feeling about
the outcome of what has happened.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I'm glad he's not cheating. I'm glad you're still story
Leaf did not that's true. Story left right now, it's
feeling like you're hail Mary is not coming true. So
that that makes me happy. I'm staying confident, doubling down,
I am. I'm hoping. If you're Tom Brady, you're retiring
right now. You know what he's got to secret family,
got a secret family smooches just as much as his
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regular family. He's given. He's getting a little, little little
French kisses to every That's why I can't afford child
bank for a second. But he's smooching. Well, tom Brady
that he like kisses his kids on the lip.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Right, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Weird loves children, man, he loves he loves his kids.
To come on, I hate on a man for loving
his children. You know we're always saying men don't show affection.
Here tom Brady is being a beacon of light.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Oh sorry, kids too much, I'm okay, sure, all right,
Well tom Brady's arrest aside, let's uh, let's close out
of this story here.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
So in all, he was.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Having a private struggle I wasn't aware of. I usually
don't go in his car, so I never noticed. And
this morning he drove me to and from work. There
we go more teamwork and either he will drive me
or I will drive myself with his permission, depends on
the day. I knew he was struggling with a lack
of income, and I have been pushing and pushing for
him to let me do more, but he held out
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due to pride, and his car suffered, and honestly, I
think I might do the same thing.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I still feel a bit betrayed and the trust has.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Eroded a bit, but at the same time, I also
feel like I got closer to him. It's a weird
feeling I can't explain. But in the end, I can
get I can get to work with his help. And
we got a comment from Brainy Brink Pride in line
can unlive a relationship as quickly as cruelty. Unless your
husband sees that sharing burdens are the only way to
success as a married couple, he will sabotage the future.
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And fart Master Champ says, Wow.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
What a name, what a great username. Today, I want
to I want to name my first born that.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, fart Master art Master.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
He's going to be so not bullied in school. It's
gonna be great. No, I mean, Harold. It is a champion.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
He is far faster. Are you kidding me? They could?
It could work out. And yeah, dude, what's your name?
Art master cool skinzel so sick, so sick. I would
love I would love my kids to be like Bartholow
you and then or like his real name to be
Bartholomew and his nickname to be Brick. I just think
Brick is such a great name. What's your name for it? Brick? Like,
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come on, go straight forward? That is a good great.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Name, great name.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
But far master Stamp says, wait. So he was nasty
to his sick wife because he cared more about his pride.
She had to literally beg him to communicate what was
going on, and this was supposed to be a win
for the relationship. Waiting for a death, how about you?
Says exactly. And he would have encouraged her to waste
twelve hundred dollars in uber rides rather than use that
money to fix the dang car brow while he is
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fully aware they are struggling financially, all to cradle his ego.
At first, I was like, you know, I get that
he was embarrassed, not that he should have done That
doesn't excuse it in the slightest but yeah, I mean
the comments do bring up a good point of like, hey, look,
you were about to let her like burn all this
money when it's like you could have just put that
into your car. Yeah, and then you did all of
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this because to like protect your ego, like help, help,
don't don't hurt your wife quite literally in some cases, Uh, to.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Protect your ego. That's that's pretty whack, pretty whack. But uh,
I feel like you know, we're we're communicating, so we're
talking now. Yeah, we got there, and he's not cheating
as far as we know. There could always be an
update holding on to this, but that is where that
story ends. But yep, we got one s three baby. Anyway,
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let us get into this next story. Sam. Here, we're
gonna get back to the stories. But here's three of
its bads from our sponsor. I purposely make my wife
upset so she will clean the house more. That's terrible.
Stop that, I mean, but you gotta clean house, John,
Stop that trigger warning emotional abuse sounds like it shouldn't
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have last on that one anyway. Okay, this is crazy,
all right, So I know the title sounds bad, Yeah
it does, correct, but hear me out all right. I
twenty eight male, have been married to my wife Lindsay
twenty five female, for two years, who've been together for
seven years. Our marriage is great. Despite us both being
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busy with work, we still make time to go on
dates and be intimate with each other whenever we can.
By the way, this comes from Electronic Act seventy six
fifty eight and if you want to submit your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. So I
work at engineering and Lindsey is a registered nurse, so
I pay for most of the bills and utilities. We
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split the bills, but I pay for the majority of
the costs because I make more. Lindsay usually fully covers
grocery costs and the Wi Fi, which isn't much because
it's just the two of us. I feel that since
I make and spend more money, Lindsay should make up
for that in housework. I'm not some traditional wife desiring
a hole. I'm not wanting to do everything. Yeah, I
just wanted to do it all. I think it's great
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that she works and has goal for her career, you know,
unlike the women that I want in my life. I
want her to I swear I feel like our chores
are split fairly. It changes day by day depending on
our schedules, but typically Lindsay cooks our meals. He is
much better than me. I mean, of course, trust me,
you don't want me anywhere to your kitchen. Oh here,
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we got just make it worse. I'll just say it worse. Yeah,
you're so good at folding close babe, Like, oh no,
I mean, like you don't want me anywhere near to
those things. You're just so you're just you're just so
talented all that, and like, yeah, don't I wouldn't want to,
you wouldn't want me that. But it's a nothing fancy
or were crying a lot of effort. She does the
dishes and vacuums, but it's not daily. It's more like
as an as needed basis. I take out the trash
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weekly and wash our cars about once a month. This
has always seemed fair to me, but recently I've felt
frustrated with her. I've been at my current job for
six years and I've developed really great friendships in my time. There.
There's a few of us that always get together on
break for lunch and whatnot, and one of my coworkers,
John thirty five. Mail has been married to his wife,
Claire for about ten years, if my memory serves correctly.
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About a month ago, John invited me over and the
rest of the gang plus our wives to have dinner
at their house. Claire is a stay at home mom,
so she handles everything at home while John works and
brings home the bacon. I know this sounds bad, but
I was jealous. Man wants that bacon lifestyle. Not because
she's a traditional bacon freaking, freaking honey honey roasted Canadian ham. Oh.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I found good.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Not because she's a stay at home mom. I don't
want kids, but because John is a wife that actually
puts effort into her food and cleaning and mine just
does it in an as need basis. Yeah, their house
was immaculate, completely spotle, no dishes left in the sink,
little nick knacks left out on the countertops, nothing. I
couldn't believe it. Claire set the table and waited on everyone.
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She was thoughtful and made sure everyone's glasses were always
full and would ask if she could get us more food.
You're describing waitress.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
He's like, guys, I don't want the like stereotypical, like
traditional wife it's like waiting on me hand and foot.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
But I want that if only I had a woman
who's waiting on me. Need it so bad, But.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
My wife needs to step it up.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
She made flaming yawn with mashed potatoes and roasted vegetables. Oh,
it was amazing. And I can't remember the last time
Lindsay put any effort into our meals. It's always something
lazy like pasta, a lot of chicken centered meals, tacos,
case diaz, everything requiring a little to no effort. On
the drive home, Lindsay made a comment about how Claire
is an amazing cook and said she would like to
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have dinner with them again because they're great people. I
agree with her and said something wrong lines you ready
for it, freaking go, we're locked and load drop it.
We're locked and freaking loaded. Also, Samantha al says she works, Yeah,
she's a registered nurse. Again, he works. So I said
something along the lines of, you, could, you know, be
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a little bit more adventurous with your meal choices so
we can eat good at home too. The thought and bye, gosh,
by golly, did this woman take offense to this? And
said she didn't realize her food was so bad. I
said it wasn't but it was nothing compared to Oh no,
because she puts effort, but I feel the love in
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every dish. She stopped talking to me and was pouting
like a child. She went to bed without speaking to
me that night. I ended up apologizing the next day
when she got home and she forgave me. Fast forward
a week later, and I became more and more frustrated.
She was working twelve hour shifts. Where's my freaking pasta?
Where's my Filamigno fell her sist more than usual. As
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a result, her house works suffered.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Oh my god, But she's bringing in the same amount
of money now.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
She has to be making good money with this twelve
hours is a nurse. But yeah, I think she's still
not making as much as him. She would leave at
seven am and come home at seven pm, and on
some nights she went straight to bed without making dinner.
Good good, All right, If you're making so much money,
my guy, there's this little thing, your secret, A little secret.
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I'm gonna put you on Uber eats.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Oh my god, boom, I just saved the marriage. Call
me doctor house.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
But I'm a caveman.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I don't understand, but I just save a marriage.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Also, where I'm from, if you say another woman's food
is better than your wives, that's cheating.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
So Sophia Colan agreeing with.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
You shut out.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I ended up getting takeout on those nights. Dishes were
piling up in the sink, the carpets were becoming noticeably dirty,
and she just sat in bed, scrolling on her phone
or sleeping. I tried to be understanding at first. At
this point, she's used to working twelve hour shifts, so
there's really no excuse. Oh my god. I ended up
having a talk with her and was brutally honest. I
told her I'm not satisfied with her level of housework anymore,
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and I want her to do more. I want her
to come home and make dinner, and I wanted to
put more effort into it. I gave her some examples
of meals I would like to eat, and suggestions for
a way that she can clean before going to bed,
such as drinking coffee or energy drinks on the way home.
Oh no, no, just drink some coffee. Oh god. I
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thought she was receptive to my ideas at first, but
then this guy is a regular sherlock. I realized she
looked pissed. Using my power as abduction and observation, she
very coldly asked me if I feel this way because
of John's wife, and I answered honestly, and I said yes.
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I told her I would be embarrassed if my friends
came over to have dinner with us after that dinner
at John's.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Oh my god, you did.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
She started tearing up when I said this, and I
felt kind kind of, kind of bad for being so harsh.
She didn't say a word to me and just left
the room. I came out a short while later and
saw her manically scrubbing a stain out of the carpet
on her hands and knees, still crying. I asked her
what she was doing, and she screed, what does it
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look like? You at big a hole? The stain she
was scrubbing was pretty much gone, but she continued for
what felt like ours. I started feeling sorry for pushing
her to that point, but then I remembered something.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Oh, oh, what do you remember, buddy?
Speaker 3 (39:32):
What idea popped into your freaking brain, your peace size
little noodle up there, something that could work out great
for me?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Or so horribly wrong.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
No.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
When she was in high school, she was in a
psych wart. She told me she used to neglect herself
when she felt really depressed, but after being in the war,
she obviously cleans which she feels depressed or overwhelmed because
of the habits they drilled into her. I almost felt
like a DC villain because of the huge smirk that
crept on my face. The next night, she got home
at seven pm. I told her I had something to
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confess to her, and she was like petrified. I told
her I was sorry, but I watched Corn while she
was at work because I was lonely. He ended up
throwing up from crying so much. But just as I thought,
she started cleaning. This guy's evil. This guy's evil. Dude,
what what this guy's evil? If we didn't think he
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was evil before? Oh my god, she washed all the
dishes by hand. That's how I like it. I don't
want some robot washing my dishes. I want blood, sweat,
my wife, blood sweat and tears on these dishes. Instead
of using the dishwasher, he dusted everything, every fan, every
TV screen, every shelf. I didn't want it to be
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too obvious, so I started limiting this trick four times
a week max. Skip to present day. I made a
joke at lunch with my coworkers about how I trained
my wife to love cleaning. Everyone was laughing and asked
for the secret, so I said, all I gotta do
is make her cry and she wants to clean. Please
please come for this, man, please please do it. Coworkers
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Daniel asked me what I mean. I told him how
her response to being upset is to clean, so I've
been upsetting her on purpose. Everyone was silent while I
was still laughing. Adam asked why in a very unamused tone.
I spilled the beans about how Claire. It made me
realize how unmotivated my wife is. I wish Lindsey was
more like her. The rest of lunch was pretty awkward,
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and I felt like I made everyone uncomfortable. Yeah, man again,
this nothing gets past this guy.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Bro is God. I can't even.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
I ended up texting John to ask if I did
something wrong because he didn't come buy my station before
leaving like he usually does. He told me he felt
really weird about the way I was treating my wife
and idealizing his He told me I was being an
a hole and emotionally abusing her when I should just communicate.
I argued against this because I did communicate. I told
her exactly what I wanted from her, and all make
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uses about being tired from work and eating sleep. Even
suggested that I should clean more if the state of
the house bothers me so much, and then I should
learn to cook before criticizing her. We would not be
able to afford the house we live in if it
weren't for me. The lifestyle we live is because of
me to why can't you just show appreciation by cleaning
and cooking better meals. It's been three days now and
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I am now sitting alone at lunch. When I sit
with my usual group, everyone stops talking. I feel like
I really fed up and want to make things right
with my friends. Same time, I feel like what I'm
doing is okay because it's not for no reason. He's
actually cleaning more and I'm so proud of her. Am
I the A hole? Because I want to keep doing it?
And there's an edit and there's an update, But is op?
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This is the clearest the A hole?
Speaker 3 (42:47):
You are the A hole in human space, time continuum history.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
You need to.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Marry a f doll and a maid because that robot.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Actually, you just need a robot because I always say this,
if you make such good money a pair apparently op
before this lifestyle, would you not want to, you know,
get cleaning, buy food or whatever so you could spend
more time with the person who's supposed to be your
best friend.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Why would you not want that? I mean, he just
wants someone he can control. He wants someone he can
control and be. He wants a maid. He wants a maid.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
And he is doing some disgusting ways to coerce his wife.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Into becoming that.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
And then we got it at it please, and we
got an update. So I understand that I'm the a
hole now. No, this is not faked. We're sorry to
bring up, sorry to deprive you of that comfort. It's
impossible not to recognize something is wrong with you when
a good eighty percent of the commenters are calling faker,
hoping it is. I understand now that I mentally mistreated
my wife, and I do want to fix it. Thank
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you to the two people who actually took the time
to offer constructive feedback and advice. As much as I
hate the thought, I'm going to seek out a professional.
It is impossible for everyone to be wrong, and I'm right,
even though that's what my brain is telling me. I
know something is wrong with me, even though my brain
is saying there isn't. Thank you all for helping me
realize it. As per request, I will update in the
future if there's any update, and there is an update, dude.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Before this happened, I remember scrolling on like TikTok and
there was like.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Hey, girls, what's like a way for your a trick.
Speaker 4 (44:26):
You guys do with your husband? And I was reading
the comments. All of them were like placebo effect. It's like, oh, yeah,
if he cleans, I give him the Like if he
does this, I give him the And I thought this
was what it was going to be, like oh yeah,
she cleans, so I would give her the.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
This is not the case. Not the case. Not so update. Hi,
it's been a while. I don't have a lot to say,
but I was asked to update if I ever did
try therapy and I did. I like it.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
I dropped out of individual therapy after like foo sessions.
My therapist was more interested in my childhood than giving
me actual advice, but stuck with couples therapies. Okay, I try.
I really did the therapist, and my wife would gang
up on me. The therapist changed my wife a lot.
She went from being kind and soft spoken to rude
and brazen. She would snap on me for absolutely nothing,
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constantly bring up things I've done in the past, used
against being an argument to try to make me submit.
Remember how my wife is an RN. Yeah, well she
was effing cheating on me with some ugly see you
next Tuesday, working the same shifts as her. She confessed
that in therapy and said if I could forgive her,
she could forgive me for all the things I've done.
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This is who's worse.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
I mean, okay, So here's the thing that you know,
cheating is never okay, But I would guess she was.
She had someone who's actually showing her some sort of
interest and compassion and whatever at work, being in this
insanely toxic relationship, and instead of doing what she should
have done, which is freaking run out the door and
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then maybe find this person later out. She Yeah, whether
it was acting out, whether it was like, oh, this
is someone who's actually showing interest me, whatever it is, ah,
but I mean, even the idea too of like, oh,
all you know, wipe your wipe your crimes. If you
wipe mind, It's like, no, that is not going to
fix the under the issue.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
She's not at all, just lee soez, I have never
been close to this, I've never cheated and vows me nothing. Apparently,
he also shaid a lot of things she never told me,
like her last grandparent passing away and her words he
wouldn't care. Yes, I would have if she told me
she had no reason not to, I would have been
I wouldn't have been so harsh about housework if I
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knew she was grieving. But no, go ahead, please don't
tell me anything and then use it against me later,
because that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
I disagree that he cheated. He coveted another man's wife.
I was like, you need to be more like this,
more like this, more like this, and then emotionally manipulated
her to do that.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Yeah, it's so same page.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
It's yeah, I thought couple therapists were supposed to be neutral.
Isn't their entire purpose bringing couples together and helping them
understand each other? Since when do they call their clients manipulative?
How is that allowed? By the way, if you want
to be manipulated by us positively. Yes, usually listen to
full episodes with stories just like this. We'll go to Spotify,
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Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app and just search. Okay, storytime,
there's another relevant update. Hey it's Sam. We're going to
get back to these stories. But here's three minutes of
ads from our sponsors. I'm just going to go straight
into it a leap. Anyways, back to the bee wife. I
can't forgive a cheater. He's staying with her parents for
now as we are separated. I don't want her back
in my house. It makes sense now why she didn't
(47:35):
want to have spicy sleep anymore. We stop going on dates. Intimacy.
Our intimacy suffered all because she cheated. Therapy was a
waste of time and money, but I guess it was
worth it in the end because I learned what kind
of person she really is. He discussed me. I did
not want therapy, but I try my best for her
and to change that is clearly not what you wanted
because she cheated. I learned the information last month and
(47:57):
I finally have come to terms with it. My friends,
I'm still cool with a few of them, Others clearly
looking down on me. So I don't interact with them anymore.
But we don't eat lunch together anymore. I sit elsewhere
now and it's not too bad. Honestly, I'm meeting new people.
Maybe I'll find love again soon. But who knows my
witch in Espanol? Oh, my reputation at work in regards
(48:20):
to personal matters is kind of crap. Now. Well that's
really it. Thank you all for reading. And we got
a couple comments. I'm going to read.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
But I don't really feel too bad for this guy.
I don't feel bad in the slightest. He needs more
terrible things to happen.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Comma, one karma came to bite you in the butt.
I do not blame your wife one little bit for
cheating on you. Good for her. You deserved it because
you are a harmful, disgusting human being who does not
deserve to have anyone love you. Not pulling any punch
up there, I hope, he responds. It makes sense. It
makes no sense how you all are justifying this. Why
not leave me? Why I go to therapy with me
(48:55):
just to cheat on me and see if I'll forgive you?
How does that make sense? Hurt herself more in the process.
I've seen the burman he slept with, and trust me,
that's not much speak of. I'm honestly embarrassed for her.
Speaker 4 (49:08):
Oh my gosh, another part of me. A lot of
people were saying, she didn't even cheat. She's brought up
You brought up that you watched corn and then made
her compulsively vomit.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Maybe she just did that to see what you would do.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
Yeah, yeah, I mean again, I don't think chating is good,
but this guy definitely wasn't laying groundwork for a great
that's comment two. I don't know. Mental abuse seems pretty
on par, if not worse than keating for me. In
comment three, everyone told him at last on the last
post that you can only chip away at someone mentally
(49:40):
for so long before they recognize you're bad for them
and move on. Then she does exactly that, and he's
shocked in rage and still can't look into the mirror
to find any fault with himself. There's no way the
cleaning was the first time he acted like a piece
of poop. The way he described himself smiling at a
cartoon villain. That's someone who is very comfortable coming up
with plans for manipulation. Good riddance. I'm glad your wife
(50:01):
is going to get to live her best life. And
I hope you contain yourself from the general public to
minimize future harm. And that is where that story and
this episode ends.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Oh, put him in a box.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Let's put him in a box. I can't talk to
and Wow, watch alone for eternity. That guy is terrible.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
That is correct. Yeah, true, statement has never been said.
Andrea mar thanks for a two box. She one didn't cheat,
he lied to play victim. I would not be surprised
in the slightest yet. That man is a piece of poopy.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Yep. Just remember don't allow that kind of poopy in
your life. You should only date people that bring joy
and love your life. A little little raised sunshine can
go chay on my girl. Yea. But that is where
this story, in this episode ends. So if you love us,
make sure to subscribe.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
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