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00:16 r/AITAH - [9] AITA for screaming at my old manager for giving out my private information?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
My manager gave away my private information to my estranged grandfather.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
What does he want with that?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Trigger warning? Stocking and workplace privacy breed yay, I twenty
two female have been working at the same retail job
for over six years now.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I will not be naming the company as it is
fairly small, but I loved working for this business. By
the way, this comes from Electrical Box eighty nine nineteen
And if you want to submit your own stories, go
to the r slash Okay Storytime subpart it. I'm Sophia,
I'm Riley, I'm Keon, and we're here to give good
advice goofy. But we don't have all the answers. We
only know what we'd do, so let us know what
you do in the comments and op says I moved
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to a different store earlier this year due to management issues.
I'll try not to get into it, but I had
the same manager for the first four years, and I
adored her. Unfortunately, she moved to a different store, and
the new manager was definitely not.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
The right fit.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
We clashed very often, and if I'm being totally honest,
we were both fairly toxic. I think she created the
toxic environment, but I definitely did not help the situation.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I was poisoning at it on top of it. It
was just the.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Little poisoned cherry on top of the poisoned PI. There
were about six other people who quit or move to
a different store because of her behavior, which I think
is very telling, as there were only ten employees when
she started. Anyways, after about one year of working with
this new manager, I couldn't take the toxicity and work
drama anymore, and I decided to move to a different store.
(01:45):
Until this week, I had zero contact with my old manager,
and I was happy to just let everything go and
kind of forgive her in my mind. Okay, now, I
don't think I can do that. On Monday, I was
rostered on for work, but I ended up calling in safe.
I work every single Monday, so I felt really bad. Well,
looking back, I'm extremely grateful that I was not.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
At work okay. Oh.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
An old man came up to the store and asked
my coworker if I was there. She assumed it was
a family member, so she called over my brother, as
he was the one who covered my shift that day. Sorry, bro,
does your brother work there? Sounds like it, that'd be
super funny if he didn't work there. And she was
just like, I brought my brother. I'm gonna bring my
brother and he's gonna fill in my shift. He asked
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my brother if he knew who he was, and my
brother had absolutely no clue. It turns out that he
was our grandfather on my dad's side, whom we had
never met or spoken to before.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
He continued on and said that he didn't want to
talk to my brother. He only wanted to talk to me.
Oh lovely, Oh oh no, no, no, no, that's weird,
that's nice.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I don't like that. Yeah, I think he has something.
He has a will to give you his inheritance, but only, oh, pe,
not your brother.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
My brother told him that I was not there, and
thankfully he just left. When my brother came home and
told me this, I was so incredibly angry. My dad
was as well, as he had not contacted his father
in over twenty five years. I hated the fact that
he tried to catch me at my job where I
couldn't really run away. Then my mind went to how
the heck.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Did he know where I was?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It was gonna be my question is.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Like, yeah, he know you were, How did he find
you there?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
If it's like this small store and he's been estranged
for twenty five years?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
As wait, does he know that that was your brother?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Like, so I think he knew that?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Interesting?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Probably? Oh boy, what does the soul guy want? I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I don't trust him. This part might sound a bit confusing,
but I'll try my best, Okay. My dad and his
sister had a fine relationship until about two years ago.
My aunt knew where I worked, but she does not
know that I moved to a different store, as we
have not had any contact with her. My aunt was
also in contact with my grandfather, so we assumed she
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might have told him where I worked, but he would
have no knowledge about me moving stores.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Ooh, so there's someone that leaked that part at the
other store.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Then ah, yeah, because she left that store because of
the toxic boss. How toxic was that boss?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And are they still toxic?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
The next day, I went to the old store I
worked at to see if anyone had asked about me.
I went directly to my manager and asked to speak
with her in private. We went into the back and
I asked her if an older man came in and
asked if I was working. It turned out that he
did go to that store first, but my old manager
told him I had moved stores. Ah, what kind of
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stupid person gives out that kind of information?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Oh uh, the toxic one. Yeah, the toxic one. Yeah,
that's that's that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
She she if she had just if she just said, oh,
she moves stores, she doesn't work here anymore, that's maybe okay,
unless there's only like two stores around.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
But if she told the location not good, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Are you kidding? In this moment, I saw red. I
was definitely giving her attitude at this point, but I
asked if she had said anything else to him. She
casually admitted that she told him I always work Mondays
and if he went to that store now, he could
still catch me. The company has an app where you
can see when everyone is rostered on, even people at
the other stores. So even though I thought it was
very weird that she looks at my roster enough to
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notice that I work every Monday. I was too mad
to get into it. I started to laugh in disbelief.
I went off at her and said something like, are
you effing kidding me? I have no clue who this
man is, and you have just told him where and
when I work. To be very truthful, I was full
on yelling at this point, which started a heated argument
that went on for a while.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Awesome. Ashley says, that's illegal. Yeah, and if you get
a good lawyer, you'll never have to work again.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Oh yeah, you cannot just give out that kind of
information to strangers.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
By the way, Sophia works every Tuesday from two to midnights.
It's true, and you can find her on Okay, story Time,
on YouTube, Facebook, or it's Kiley.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
You just gave away my private information that nobody knew.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Quick Sue him, sued sue me.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
To summarize the argument, I started yelling at her first.
She said that she had done nothing wrong, but I disagreed.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Her excuse was that he told her he was my grandfather.
My response was that he could have lied, been a stalker,
or been dangerous. She told me there's nothing she could
do anymore, so I should just get over it. I
called her an e fing sword and I left, lovely.
That might you get you in trouble.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
The grandpa loophole, she.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Was like, he said he was your grandpa. It's like
if like a serial unliver is like knocks at your
door and is like, hey, I'm your brother, and they're like,
I've never met you before, but you said you're my
brother in wow.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
What huh?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah, and take people at their words. Thought to double
check these things.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yup, that's true safety one oh one? Yeah, what was
really going through this manager's mind?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I think she just like doesn't like that girl, I agree,
or or it is just not very smart.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I oh, yeah, because I left.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I know it was not the best way to go
about the situation and that I should not have started
yelling and swearing at her, But I have never been
so enraged. Beginning of the conversation, we were both civil,
but her lack of accountability and no apology tipped me
over the edge. Little did I know while this was happening,
my grandfather went to the store I worked at again.
(07:39):
He also went in two days later, on the Thursday.
Thankfully you have not been working when he comes in,
but now I'm extremely paranoid. Anyways, my old manager obviously
went to HR about the whole situation, which I do understand.
There's so much history between us and me coming in
and calling her an effing C word probably should have
been brought up. Yesterday, I had a meeting with the
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CEO of the company, a manager, and some other guy
who kind of manages the managers.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
The meeting was extremely awkward, and I admitted that my
behavior was inappropriate, which is true, and I apologize to
my manager. She accepted my apology, and they were wrapping
up the meeting, but I interrupted to discuss how she
gave a random stranger my personal information.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Boom.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Now yet you said, I apologize for my actions, and
they said, oh, well, I.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Guess it is. I'll done.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And you said, how Webburn, I don't apologize for calling
her out forgiven my information, and then Mike drop and
they all went.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
They all went for a million dollars.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
The response to this was not great. They basically said
that there was no ill intent behind her doing this,
and simply telling my grandfather where I worked did not
warrant that response. I explained that he is a stranger
to me, and he has now come in the store
multiple times, and I am very upset about the whole situation.
They said, we can discuss this at a later date,
but this is not really what this meeting was about.
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But it was about that.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
It literally was about that here though, Well, okay.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So I think OP went around about this wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I agree. I don't that initial meeting was not that
because you know how like you go to court, yeah,
and you have new evidence and you have boom evidence,
It's like who whoa, whoa, whoa. We weren't talking about that.
We weren't. We were not We're not here there And
also like the defenses whoever, everyone has to be aware
of the evidence. Yeah, that's what I think needs to
happen here is or like not everyone knows what's actually
happening here exactly. We got to make another meeting to
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discuss this.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I think that OP should have before her manager, even
like her old manager even filed the complaint to HR.
She should have gone to her managers and said, hey,
this happened. I reacted poorly. Well, she should never actually
have gone to confront the manager. She should have confronted
HR and said this happened. This is totally unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, that would.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Be my first thing after she already confronts the manager again.
You go to HR, you say this happened. I'm sorry
for doing that. However, it's completely inappropriate that she revealed
man version.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah, you should have gone to before get ahead of
the story. Yeah, go ah gosh, complaint for complaint.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Right there, I left crying. I was so incredibly frustrated
and embarrassed because of our history. This situation made it
seem like I was just dragging up old stuff for
the sake of it, and that my manager had done
nothing wrong. I've asked my family and friends for their
opinion on this whole situation, and they have all kind
of said they see both sides. I think that is
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their way of saying I'm wrong, but they don't want
to tell me. I honestly think that even though my
response and how I handled the whole situation was very wrong,
my manager is still the one at fault. I need
someone who does not know me or my manager to
tell me if I'm being delusional. Am I the ale
and there is an update? I think that you were
in the wrong for how you reacted, and had you
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gone through the proper channels, you might have your complaint.
Your complaint might.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Have been received better and you could have got a
big check.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Because I think that you were right to be upset.
Oh yeah, I think that is totally a breach of privacy.
But I think because you reacted in that way, they're
less likely to take you serious. Now.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's one of those moments where you gotta
not let your emotions take control and you gotta think
before you know, you say kind of thing, which is
sometimes really impossible to do in the moment, or like
when you're just really heated or really in that mindset.
But yeah, I agree, this one could have been a
(11:26):
big paycheck and so much easier. You just like worded
it better or went into it with a better mindset.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I understand you were angry, but that was not the
correct response in that moment. I agreed, And maybe it
might have it again, and you could you've learned from
these mistakes. You're only twenty two year she's young. This
could happen again. You'll be ready.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
No, we don't want that, don't know, but there is.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
An update and we do want that. A lot has
happened since my original post, so I'll try to keep
it brief.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I need advice.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Oh no, I'm going to quit my job. That's yeah,
probably the right move.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I agree. I cannot quit right this second.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I'm a broke UNI student, but as soon as I
find a new job, I'm out of there. I actually
would have preferred to work something out with HR, but
I basically have a stalker now, so there's no way
I feel comfortable working at that store anymore. I would
have just moved to another store from this company, but
the only other store that is close to where I
live was the one I already left. After my post,
which was last Saturday, my grandfather ended up coming to
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my work every single day. On Monday, he came up
to me. I thought he was a customer, so I
approached him like anyone else, and he just asked me
if I knew who he was. Once he said that
I knew it was him, I said no, I didn't
know who he was, and he told me he was
my grandfather. I just replied with, oh, lovely. It was
so awkward. I asked him if there was anything I
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could help him with, and he just said wait ay
to talk. I said okay, waiting for him to keep talking,
but he told me he wanted to speak in private.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
This is so creepy. Sorry.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, if I was Ope's father personally, I'd probably be
breaking that silence to say, don't ever talk to my
daughter again.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, I would be like this, I know, like what
is going on? Oh yeah yeah, like with the boss saying,
oh yeah, we kind of see where everyone's it's that
like that grandfather has come out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
It seems like nobody really cares about Op's experience right now.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I said that is not happening, and that if he
doesn't buy anything, I'm going to have to ask him
to leave. I work in a shopping center, and the
story workout is not the store that you can actually
walk into. You just walk up to a counter. It
kind of looks like a deli with a grocery store,
if that makes sense. He went over to the bench
that faced our store and just sat there staring at me.
This took place around four PM, and our store closes
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at five point thirty Lovely on Mondays. I always close
by myself. There are not enough customers to justify putting
more people on after like three o'clock. When five thirty
around he was still there. I'm not gonna lie. I
was crapping myself. I really did not know what to do,
so my plan was to just speed walk past him
and walk to my car. Ope, you are young, but
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you're not that young. You need to call your parents,
call someone and say, hey.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Pick me up, mall security, pick me up.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You had an hour and a half. You call someone.
You called all security, called boss. You say there is
a stalker outside. I do not feel safe.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
There's a movie about a guy that could help you.
All Blart mall klop.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
He would have rest, he did, and he would have
as expected. He started following me and calling after me.
I did not look back once, just got into my
car and drove off. I need help with his part.
As I was driving off, I saw him take a
photo of my car. I have no idea why he
did that. I thought maybe he wanted my license plate.
If anyone knows what the reason for this is, please
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tell me. After this, I told my current manager what happened,
and she then contacted HRS so she could have a
meeting with them to sum up what happened At the meeting,
they said that they can ban him from all stores. Lovely,
adjust my work hours, report him to the police if necessary,
help me apply for a restraining order. If all that
does not help, well, there at least there's that.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
At least there's that some movement. Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
The meeting happened Tuesday, and every day since my original
post he has come to the store. Thankfully, I have
been allocated to all the jobs that do not require
me to be outfront serving customers. I am also not
doing the closing shifts anymore. He will come to the store,
ask for me, and then he is told he needs
to leave because I am out back and cannot be seen.
He will usually leave after looking at the comments under
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this post. I have been documenting everything good and reporting
it straight to my manager.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Oh my guys.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
The only reason I think i'll bother with the restraining
order is if he finds my new place of employment.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
After I quit. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, I don't think that he has any other information
about me. The only thing that I am certain of
is that he knows what university I am attending. It's
a huge uni, so I'm not too concerned about that.
I am praying that once I find a new job,
you won't be able to contact me anymore.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, this is crazy, really scary, really really scary.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
I don't know. This doesn't make any sense. The only
way I'll be okay with all of this is if
you had a large sum of money.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, you're like, I need to give you money.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Please let me talk to you. I have so much
money to give you.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Okay. Would you guys actually take money from someone you
really don't know, like that, like a large monney? Well exactly,
I would say, like, what strings are attached? Let's go
six figures?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
What strings are attached?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
We don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
We don't know the strings.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
We don't know because we don't know this person. This
person is like, I just want to give you this money.
And I'm your grandfa. I'm your grandfather.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I want a contract.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I'll take that money.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
If you take that money, if something I'm ready to do,
I'm stalking you.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Next question, are you taking it in cash or check?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Cash?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Riley? Why? Because the check is due you have to
take tax out if you get it is because if
tags is risey right. Response, I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
I remember it made sense in the context that I
was bringing it up in.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
You didn't want to carry on all that money.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yes, it's gonna be at dangerous. You were picking up
random money.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Hundre K would be like, you know those thick, thick
things with money, be like ten of.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Those, And now I understand I could carry it around
a small devil bag. I was picturing in a large
all in ones riley in my mind.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Ones. Yeah, meaning says random theory. What if Gramps is
there to warn her about something.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
He's like, I've come back to want you.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
There's more stockers coming?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Well, then why wouldn't you tell her?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Yeah, dude, why why can't you tell that, like in
front of everyone.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I don't trust a person who says I need to get.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
You alone in the time.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, a person I don't know, A random guy I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Right here with me and the customers, who cares. If
it's about family, I don't even know who they are, right.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
If it's about family, bring your brother, bring your dad,
bring anyone.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
But there's a little bit left to the story. A
lot of people were telling me that I could sue
my old manager and or the company. So I asked
a few of my UNI friends that are studying law.
They basically said that it might technically be possible to
sue my old manager or the company as our actions
were a breach of confidentiality and privacy and illegal where
I'm from, but it's very difficult and unlikely to be
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worth it financially as I do not have any physical
evidence that my old manager's actions directly caused or worsened
the stocking. I know this was not the happiest of updates,
but once I leave this job, I'll never have to
think about my grandfather or that effing C word again.
Any other advice would be greatly appreciated. I have no
clue what I'm doing. Y.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, it's a tough situation.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
You're a young girl.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Mm hmm, you're figuring it out. It's scary out there.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
My advice would be to go to people in power sooner.
Go to your manager, Go to HR, go to your parents,
Go to people that are able to fix this.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
You know, Reddit can't help redd it can advise you,
but yeah, to point you in the right direction. Go
to these people who actually have the power to fix us.
Find your nearest mall cop.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah, find the end of that story.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
What creepy Grandpa's dogger. I know that if he didn't,
did he look creepy? That sucks? But was he like?
I feel like the vibe of this would have been
different if he looked mystical. Yeah, it was a wizard.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
He looked like he had he had.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Please come, I have to talk to you. Please boom
talk to him side quest. Yeah there, I am did
not get those vibes you go.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I was reported to HR for inappropriate dancing at the
company holiday party.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
They just can't handle your swagger.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Every year my company hosts a big formal holiday party
with best stress competition. This year, I decided to go
for it. By the way, this comes from chihuaba Is Crossed.
If you want my own stories, go to the Freaking
Okay Storytime Subredded. I'm Riley, I'm Sophia, I'm Keon, and
we're here to give good advice. Goofully. We don't have
all the answers. We only know we would know, and
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if you have anything that you would know, we'd love
to read it in the comments, so we would love
to know it. We read them all, don't.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I read the ones that I'm my naming him.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I read the ones I have Keon's naming them and
I don't read them at all. I've been sewing my
own clothing for a few years now.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Ay yo, that's who my mommy does.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
And occasionally do costumes for Drag and Berlins's show Sick.
Just Angie, Just Future Angie, Future Angie. What is she
doing on the holidays? It's a good dancer, Angie's you
know this? Yeah, I remember her birthday party. She's a
good dancer. Geez. Yeah. In working on the costumes, I've
learned a lot of coture techniques in gown making, lots
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of feathers, beads and spar goal in both communities, but
I hadn't had the chance to make myself something wearable
using anything I learned. The holiday party felt like the
right time to make something myself, something beautiful and to
show it off. Yeah. I end up making a floor
length red satin gown with a big bow in the back,
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matching opera gloves and a sparkly white faux first stole.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I don't know what a stole is, but I'm assuming
it's like one of.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Those kind of I was gonna say, like a sash.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
But it's like one of those things that you wear
like kind of like on your like it goes a star.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
It's not a star, yeah kind of, it's not sash,
it's got.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
On your arms.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah yeah. It was significantly less literally than initially planned.
But once the bass came together, I decided I liked
the look of the satin undisturbed and left it alone.
The dress was a big hit. It was glamorous. I
felt beautiful in it, and people were shocked that I
hadn't made it all myself. I was best dressed.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Overalls can go yes, Yes, you're too powerful, You're too beautiful. Ah,
you're too beautiful.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Stop it.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Every time someone won, they got to go out onto
the dance floor and do a little fashion walk. It's
been around, answer a couple of questions, and they go
to sit down. What is my turn to walk? I
did a few things I've seen that for less shows,
drag shows, probably a few old Hollywood movies. Oh, I
did the slow side step with wavy arms, shrugged off
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the stone, better to show off the boat and look
down over my shoulder. I think I did a three
step turnaround at some point. Nothing racy or inappropriate in
less than a minute long.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Oh that's it arm that you literally you went you
went like you went da and then you went like
you're like, turn here andyone dude, that's it.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
And someone reported that I'm gonna just be real with
you and I'm sorry, this is gonna come off as
a little harsh. Some old dude probably got what to do.
And the side of them, Yeah, our report, it's her fault.
She's a witch. She's a witch. She did this to me.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
She's a hot witch.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
It's like the plot of freaking one battle after another. Yes, yeah,
you haven't seen.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Have you seen it? No? Anyway, someone reported it to HR.
I got caught in a few days after the party
and was told that my dancing had made people uncomfortable. Hard.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, honestly, I think that's it, because that's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
That is absolutely ridiculous. I asked if there were multiple reports,
and they said there was only one.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Then why did you see people that.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
That's absolutely ridiculous to get one report. If they were
there at that party and they saw no problem with it,
then they should not have brought it up at all.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Well, if one person reported it, then multiple people had
problems with it.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, everyone was like that.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
It was probably probably someone high up or a partner
or something like that.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah, like someone HR needs to make happy.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
It was hr oh and she's a woman and her
husband was like, oh my gosh, can't you dance like that?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
And she's like, I hate you.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
They gave me the work parties are still work speech,
and they let me go. They didn't even really give
me a chance to say anything. I am so frustrated.
Their dress was work party appropriate, my walk was work
party appropriate, and no one said a single negative thing
to my face. I'm still proud of myself and the dress,
but it feels like majorly misplaced effort. What a creuddy
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way to start the break and in the work here,
what do you guys think? Genuinely, I don't think you
did anything wrong?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Well, nah, I think you question you say. I think
you ate that up.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I think you slayed too hard, that's what you did.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
They're just jealous that you went off.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah, I think there's going on here. What line of
work are you in? I don't think I.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Think even if it was like a professional office, I think.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
That they're all accountants.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, I think that, Well, clearly some accountant is not
getting anything and he's like, oh a I'm just so
worked up seeing you walk down the aisle.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Some of that that is the same voice that my
mom talks about her Irish account. She had to switch
accounts recently, and that guy gives her a hard time
and he's like, I think he likes it. I have
to tell him to his work and he likes it.
Just likes crazy. But I don't think you did anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I think that you based on what you told us,
unless you did something else that doesn't sound inappropriated.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
This, yeah, I know so many video this I need
to know exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Needs video evidence and he needs to make Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Not like that.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I just need to know, Like, no, I get what
you're saying.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Just like the context of everything. If everyone looks like
they work an accounting firm and you're the only one
that has a spark of life in them, then I
can see where someone has a problem with it.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
It just feels kind of like when like a woman
who wears a very normal like office attire but is
maybe curber, gets in trouble just because she's curvier. And
in this case it's you literally were wearing a normal
tire walk down the thing, and as maybe someone like
thought you were is like thought you were attractive or
is jealous for some reason and takes it out on you.
And then instead of HR being like, well that's unreasonable,
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we were there. No one else said any other complaints.
They you know, didn't do that.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Ali says work parties are a great way to get fired.
I guess so we've read a few indeed. Update, Oh wow.
I did not expect the response this has gotten. I
think I was still annoyed because I hadn't really got
to talk to anyone about it yet. Thank you for
letting me vent and sharing your perspectives, HR stories and humor.
I feel a lot lighter just reading through the comments.
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I just want to clarify two things, since my mention
of burlesque has rightfully made it sound like I brought
my inner jesca rabbit to a stuffy work function. First,
the moves I added to my walk are not specific
to burlesque and can be found in virtually all forms
of dance. I only mentioned burlesque and drag because that's
where I learned about him. I'm not a dancer, it
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never have been. The sideways walk is used a lot
in burlesque and drag because it's a really good way
to show an audience your outfit with it, not just
doing a regular catwalk around the stage. Moving sideways keeps
your torso so the front of your outfit is facing
the audience, and arms up and out on the hips
keeps the outfit in full view. Variations of this can
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be seen in musicals, ballroom dances, and the wavy arms
are inspired by ballet. Depending on how you move, it
can be graceful, sexy, or kind of clamp camp camp. Yeah,
like drag, why is this an adjective?
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Camp is like it's like in a lot of quick
what tense, tense, fire, no, no, no. Camp just means
like it's like exaggerated. It's showy, like in drag. A
lot of drag is very campy. It's like you you
wanna have big makeup and like if you've seen Rocky
Horror picture show, that's that's camp. It's supposed to be
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kind of like.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I don't like this word. I don't like the way
that it's us queer word. So oh yeah, oh okay, okay.
So every time I think of camp, I'm like, how
does this dance feel like we're in the middle of
the woods. Yeah, telling a scary story around the fire.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
It's usually used in queer communities to refer to, but
it's not exclusively. You can you can see how do they.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Come up with camp? Camp is like, I don't know
where that does not That sounds like the opposite camp.
Let's see. You keep reading in all the very oxy
more on the right word for this.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
I don't think so. I've been trying to work oxymoron
into a sentence. It has been difficult. Probably should read
the definition of okay. Variations of this dance can be
seen in musicals, ballroom dances, and the wavy arms are
inspired by by let. Depending on how you move, it
could be graceful, sexy, or kind of camp. I was
trying to be graceful, show off the dress and make
the glitter on this stole sparkle. Second, what do you got?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Well, it just says so far as says an aesthetic
in sensibility to regards something as appealing or amusing because
of its heightened level of artifice, affection, and exaggeration. I'm
still searching for where the word origins and development. Camp
may have been derived from the gay slang polari, which
borrowed the term from the Italian camparere or from the
French term say gamper, meaning to pose in an exaggerated fashion.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Okay, it cowers.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
From yeah, it comes from that checks out for the
modern sense of camp flamboyant, do that, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yeah, bench and rich are always doing things outside down.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
British cross stresher Frederick Park referred to his campush undertakings
in eighteen seventy.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
It's over the top.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Interesting alright, this is new to I didn't know the
origins of the word, so that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Second, almost everyone who walks each year does their best
impression or a really campy imitation of a fashion model's catwalk.
Some people really swing their hips, and most stop at
the end of the runway and do the model hip
pop over the shoulder, look at into the camera. Last year,
the guy who won Best Dress showed up in a
gold sequence suit and did a genuine ballroom Paris is
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burning ballroom, not Waltz catwalk. That would have been very
scandalous if a woman had done it. Okay, this just
makes me think that someone had a crush on you, yeah,
and found a way out.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
And then it's again, I think that hr instead of
actually looking at the complaint, just wrote it off and
didn't actually care to investigate. Instead took it out on you.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Mm hmm, yeah, hey's John og host. We're gonna get
back to the stories, but a quick three minute break
of ads from our sponsors. There was also a time
for actual dancing towards the end of the night, and
there were definitely people every year who get a little loose.
Somebody did get called in for wasted twerking last year,
but she was kind of a mess that whole month,
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so it might have been something else. I literally thought
she twirked or something. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
That means like you didn't do any of that. You
literally walked sideways, did like a this walk and then
turn your head over your shoulder.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
That's it. Fun please, yeah, lokey, for real.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
You guys are boring people at your job.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I do understand that maybe my attempt of being graceful
may have come off as sex yer. Then it's ended,
like when girls are nice to guys. I thought it
was flirting. No, I could see that. I was banking
on the fact that the moves are not burlesque or
drag specific. The gown itself is not form fitting, it's
a full skirt, and felt like the others swaying their
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hips down the runway was less work appropriate than ballerina arms.
Maybe I was wrong, Maybe I was right. I'll come
up with something else if I get to walk again
next year. Thanks for the laughs and support. We got
an update two months later. I think we actually get
a good answer.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I hope. So. I hope it's like we know, I
now know who called me out, and now they're getting
fired because they do.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
If this happened to me at work, I would try
my best to laugh it off, even though it's like
a serious awkward meeting.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Oh hey, it's really awkward, But it doesn't seem like
it is actually affecting your job. Yeah, I think it
doesn't seem like you're on probation. Yeah, it doesn't seem
like any of your other coworkers knew or no. So
I think maybe I don't think it's a huge deal.
It's super annoying and like disrespectful of them, But.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I don't know. Would we go around the office or
wherever you work, wherever op works? You'm like, who thought
my dance was scandalous?
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
You just take a pull what'd you think of my dance?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Like you see?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Who says yes, he's swift, he says, so the hater
is gonna hate.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Hey, I'm gonna just shake it off.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
In December, I posted here about being called into HR
for inappropriate dancing tldr M. I pumply host a holiday
party every year with a best dress competition where winners
get to do a catwalk to show off their outfits.
I made my own dress one best dress overall. It
did a sidestep, wavy arm, and a three point turn,
and someone reported me jhar I was going to post
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any updates because the outcome was pretty bland, but I'll
be gone yesterday. I was shocked to see how much
more activity on the post had gotten after I initially
logged out and thought that maybe someone would like to
read about what happened. Long story short, someone in HR
did not do their due diligence and I was being
called in by mistake. I knew it.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I That's what I thought. I feel like HR got
a complaint and instead of actually investigating it, were just like, whatever,
we're just gonna callop in ew Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Half arsed yes, as only came to lie after a
New Year's Eve party not work related, where the same
person complained about my inappropriate dancing. I was out of
town on New Year's.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yep, yep, that guy got a better get, like on
probation or fired or something.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
The guy who made the report initially went to HR
to complain about a woman in a red dress from
my department trying to dance with him at the holiday party.
Apparently he didn't know her name, and the person he
talked to did not ask for more identifying information. This
person decided that I must be the woman in the
red dress, despite the fact that there were multiple women
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and red dresses at the holiday party and had arranged
for the initial meeting.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Ah, you were the lady in reddy.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
You're the look. You're the only lady that was in
red that they thought of.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah, you're just so striking in your dress.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I mean, yeah, you stood out.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
You won two awards that day.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Once we came back to the office after the holiday break,
I was once again called at the HR. They told
me that they normally didn't talk to employees about personal conflicts,
but since I had repeated a behavior that they had
already warned me about, they felt it was necessary to
meet with me again. This prompted a back and forth.
I apologize for my walk at the holiday party, and
I said I understand that some people may have found
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it too risk ay, but that I hadn't done it
again and don't intend to. They said this was about
the dancing. I told them the only dancing I had
done at the party was the walk. They said the
walk was fine, this was about the dancing. This is
so annoying. Oh.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
He's like, yeah, I understand my walk. And they're like,
it's not about the walks, about the dancing. And she's like, well,
I danced at the thing, and they're like, no, it's
not about that.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
It's about the dancing.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
And she's like, what dancing are you talking about.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
We're just going back and forth.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Oh my god, I would be so annoyed in this wedding.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
How do they show you this? They don't do.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Any investigation at this HR fire.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
The HR couldn't this gracious. Oh that's kind of scary. Yeah.
At some point, one of the HR reps outlined the
initial complaint to me.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah, I'm sorry they didn't even tell you what the
complaint is.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
That's what I was saying. Which was dancing with a coworker.
I told them I don't danced with any coworkers that night,
nor had it even been on the dance floor. Then
I asked them have been to any New Year's Eve parties?
And I told them I've been out of town. This
essentially ended the meeting. I assumed they realized they were
talking to the wrong person and the issue of privacy
kicked in. I was given an apology by the head
(35:52):
of HR a few days ago. Afterwards, good They told
that this situation was being dealt.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
With finally, all right, Oh yeah, they're like, oh, maybe
we should actually investigate the claims and instead of accusing
a person that just like we have no proof, yeah
of the maybe we should one ask them if they
did that. Yeah, you start the meeting off of, hey,
this is the complaint, was that you did you do that?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
What do you have to say about that?
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Instead of starting with like, you can't do this again,
because that's a stupid way to start a conversation.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
I would really like to read whoever this HR complaint
read story.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Oh yeah, they're like, oh, he keeps dancing, she's dancing,
she's enticing me without us.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
This dude's like getting hit on. I guess his will though. Yeah,
if that's that's what I.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Caught that the other person, it doesn't even seem like
the person who reported it, who was the same person,
was the person dancing with that red dress lady. Seems
like he saw someone else dancing with a woman in
the red red dress and then reported that.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Oh I see, So it seems like he's just freaking jealous.
Maybe I don't know. I need more I need more
contact on that. Yeah, one person doesn't work here anymore,
but I don't know if that was the HR rep
and whether or not if that person was fired.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah, I think this is all working out.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
I would be like, I don't know. I feel like,
what what do you What do you need? I need?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
I need HR to give me money, apology.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
I need days mix up.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, I need days off.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Like lunch, I need lunch and dinner.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
I'd be like, ah, thank you for apologizing. I'm actually
incredibly hurt by this accusation.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Stressed me out a lot, and it's.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Stressed it affected my my work.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
You footloosed me. I thought I couldn't dance anymore.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I thought I.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Couldn't dance ever again.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Oh my gosh, and.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Therefore I want these. These are my demands.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
I want to dance, and I want to dance with
my food.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
I want to dance, pay somebody there we go. I
want to feel the heat with somebody.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I want to dance.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
I think I know who the real woman in Red
was unless she was in Burgundy.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
They mistic Red and Burgundy.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
She's like, I think I know who it was unless
she was in Burgundy.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Then I don't know. This was a toss up, but
I have no idea whether she's been spoken to. Well,
don't stitch on her. I don't know the guy she
was trying to dance with. Still feel weird about everything
when I think about it, but I think that's because
I don't know what went on with the two people
who were actually involved. I don't think it was very often,
which is good. Thanks again for all your hr stories
(38:21):
thoughts in humor. I didn't realize how frustrated I was
about not being able to talk to anyone about the
comments really helped.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Yeah, man, seen the story, dude, I kind of wonder
what was going on?
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Actually, yeah, what actually was happening with the other two people?
Oh yeah, like.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah, no, And I'm wondering, I'm wondering how explicit or
like risque this woman other woman's dancing actually was. If
this guy already complained about Ope's dancing, yeah, you know,
like was it just kind of normal dancing?
Speaker 3 (38:56):
And then he was like.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Ah, she did not dance, saying what me? That's what
I want to know. But also I hope that either
the HR guy or that guy who keeps reporting people
he's out of here.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Agreed. Agreed.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
I was accused of sleeping with my coworker twice.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
My age ew.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
And this comes directly from the r slash Okay storytime
subpared it. No, I thirties female work in a male
dominated field. My current job, which I've been at for
years now, is surprisingly filled with a lot of drama
despite being mainly only men at or only a few
years shy retirement age. Those men are getting nipped to
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crete easy things.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Those men have nothing to lose.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I am so bored. I'm retiring next year. I want
to spice it.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Up, and they're about to just go to a retirement home.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yep, I am the only female that works on the floor.
By the way, this comes from New York two seven
to two and if you want to spit your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay storytime subpred it.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
I'm Sophia, I'm Riley, I'm Keon.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
And we're here to give good advice. But we don't
have all the answers. Don't you only know what we'd do,
So let us know what you would do in the comments,
and Opie says, I safely assumed the typical workplace drama
that comes with a female working in a male workforce
wouldn't be there due to the fact everyone at my
work has decades on me in age. Ah, but you've
(40:19):
kind of forgotten that the men not twice your age
and might be kind of creepy.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Dang, Opie fell for misogyny.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Dang, She's like, no, there's no misogyny here. Older men
never do misogyny, Opie.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
I know you're doing black coffee and spoke cigarettes too.
You're an old man. We know who you are.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
I've had zero trouble with any of these men, even
though I was hesitant due to being their boss and
younger than most of their children. However, I have one coworker,
seventies male, who I get along with very well because
he reminds me of my dad, who is my best friend.
I love that while it worked. During downtime, we will
shoot the crap about cars, football, and baseball. We text
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while it worked to communicate so that I don't have
to go and find him every time I need to
perform some type of task. It's a big building, and
it's easier for me to keep doing what I'm doing
and text him what to do to save time, especially
in busy season. Now on to the fun part of this.
His wife, seventies female, has never been brought up too
much at work. The few things he has said to
me that involved her struck me as odd, but I'm
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not one to pry. The one day the first year
he started working with me, my coworker seemed off and
like something was wrong. He had been having some health spats,
and I asked if he was doing all right. His
response was just upset because my kids don't want to
visit us for Easter because of my wife, thinking she
might not be the biological mother. I just said, oh, stepmom,
problems can be hard. Turns out she is the biological mother.
(41:50):
You made a wild assumption. I would not have assumed
that just because he says, they don't want to see
their mom.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
I mean, if you're on step to cellbred for step moms,
I guess, so I guess on that.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Yeah, she's on that, you know, on that thought process
right now. But I would not have just said like, oh,
step moms. I honestly would have done the same thing.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Really, I almost asked a couple at my church when
they said, like, you're having a kid. I was like, oh,
did you do a paternity test? I almost asked it,
but I had to stop myself.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
I'm glad you didn't do that. I didn't ask any
further questions because there were other coworkers around. Fast forward
another six months and he asked me if I could
possibly just find him when I need to do something
at work. I said sure, without questioning anything. Coworker later
takes me to the side because of the texting thing, yeah,
and says he needs to warn me about something. Yeah,
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I'm sure some other coworkers saw that she was texting
him and then assumed something.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
I was assuming that winter's coming. He just coming. That's
the vibe I got that. He just imst wolln you
should do. Your life will be had.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Just mix two things right now.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Yeah, she did.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
He proceeded what I didn't mix them up.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
I got to know into a different thing.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
He proceeded to tell me that his wife looked at
his phone and now thanks for sleeping together at my
place of work.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
But the text messages are, hey, did you plug that
thing into my box at work?
Speaker 1 (43:16):
And she said what does this mean? And he said,
I was talking about the computer.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Your combobulator looks larger than it usually does. She's like,
what does that mean?
Speaker 1 (43:24):
He's like, with the combobulator at.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Work, it just combobulated.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (43:30):
What to do?
Speaker 1 (43:31):
I was regulating the combobulator.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
I'm always asking Kean to plug things in for.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Me, mm hmm, and I do it with consent, usually
on his knees.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
First off, my place of work is not somewhere that
this would be very feasible to do anyway, guys, mingman,
I wasn't mixing it up. I was adding another reference.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
You were you were.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
I wasn't mixing it up. I was making a Gandolf reference.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
But you also put in a guy reference in there.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yeah, I made two separate reference.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
No, you did that. I did the god and then
you repeated my God, the Lord of the Rings with
the winter is coming. Yeah, I was, I was moving on.
It's okay to remix, were remixing, Yeah, it was remixing.
All right, we'll give you that.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
It's all fantasy.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
But she is I I've never even read William Thrones.
I don't care.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
That's a lot.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
She is absolutely convinced that my text him are codes
for spicy related acts. I think this is exactly what
you just said, example a text coworker, can you bring
this to that area please? And she thinks that means
to meet me in the back of my work to
do things to him.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Come on, make it that was that was nothing going
on to a good one.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Think about this makes my stomach turn because this man
is in his seventies.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
He reminds me of my dad, and I am.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
In a long term relationship with a child of my own.
She's also claiming I want to steal him from her
for money, which is a crazy concept because I am
his boss and make over double what he does. There
are so many more outrageous things she has said, and
word got around at work, as it always does, about
his wife and how she thought we were sleeping together.
(45:09):
It was a joking matter for about a year round
our workplace, with everyone poking fun at the situation until
one night. Oh, this woman decided to show up at
our work and proceeded to text coworker that.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
She wanted to fight me.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Oh my god, Sorry, a seventy year old woman showed
up at your work and was like, I'm gonna fight you.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
Let's start that ring that bell. I'm ready.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
I want to see you. That's crazy. That would be
the highlight of my whole year. That's freaking I'll be
ready for it.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
That's my nana's age. That's if my nana came to
someone's workplace and I was like, I'm fighting you, I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Want to fight my grandpa. He's about seventy. Yeah, he's
pretty well, but he works with saw mills.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
But he's not that old. Like, I feel like you're
still you can still be pretty spry.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Yeah you're pretty young.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Yeah, Like my aunt is inner seventies and she's like
pretty spry. Play with dude and she like she still
goes on ikes with me and stuff. Oh wow, Yeah,
she's like really great shape. She looks pretty young.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
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Speaker 1 (46:05):
Man, I can only hope to have this much spark
left in me in my seventies.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
A lot of people do. Somebody's not that old.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Our work is guarded and she wasn't able to get in, thankfully,
but it still threw me for a loop.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Fun fact, this is one of our own still right,
Oh my goodness comments. I want to see your name? Yeah, Lois,
is this? I think that you need.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
To talk to your friend.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
He fighter, That's what I'm.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Yes, I don't think you should ever talk to her.
I don't know if you were planning on it, but
I don't think you should ever like go to her
because it's not your relationship. It's on your you know,
seven year old friend to manage his own relationship. Okay,
And it seems like no one at your workplace believes
this lie, so that's good.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
I think I think talk to your friend and say
he like, she can't be coming you need to have
a conversation with her, or we need to talk to
our boss because she can't be coming in here.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
When I'm trying to do my job, I'm your boss.
Actually she's oh, he's the boss.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
But also then it gives that it gives that perspective
of like, yeah, a dominating boss over a coworker, and
the coworker drop it only so little, just like you
and Kiel. You're like, I'm like stand there and you're like, Okay.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
I decided to take coworker to the side. I have
a serious conversation about it. That's what I just said.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
And it turns out that for a while now, pretty
much since the day she looked at her texts, she's
been trying to figure out how to catch us and
find a way to tell my man about us. She's
been unsuccessful so far because I only have one form
of social media and it's brand new and on lockdown
since day one. Anyway, just figured i'd share this little
funny story of how I'm a gold digger trying to
sleep with a man well over twice my age.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
Whoa. She admitted it at the end she hadn't met
it as she's actually doing it. She said it right there, Okay,
crazy little okay storytelling. Yeah, my parents started a church
with I think this guy's my cousin or something. Anyways,
started church my parents getting like an altercation with this guy.
He bans them from the church that they've started. They
put in a lot of time. They were very upset.
(48:07):
But like that guy closed on the church, found out
he was doing some fraud through the church, and then
married another woman. He's still with his wife, married with
a woman and stole her four to one k bag man.
What yeah, that's quick within like three years. Yeah. I
always had a bad guy about that guy, right, yeah,
(48:28):
but you got it. And like the thing that bothered
me the most is like, you call my dad and
said that his dad was a way better man than
my dad could ever be. Like my grandpa was a
way better. But I'm like, dude, my grandpa had like
four wives, always was drinking and smoking, died on the
golf course because he was like not in good health.
He had a heart attack. That's why not golf.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
What's so weird? Just a weird thing to say this.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
I know.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
I was like, dude, that guy was not it. And
my dad's actually like turning his life around, helping He
like goes visits like like anyone. Yeah, and like he's
visiting kids at what's the what's the juvie prison?
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Jevy.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
Oh it it goes to the juvi and like precis kids,
like he's actually doing stuff in the community.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Then yeah, guy, yeah, sometimes people need to mind their
own businesses or do a little bit of investigative work
because it's it's clear through these stories that some people
just don't not investigate the claims that they have.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
But we need to give them a walk through and
how to.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Yeah, we're like, all right, these are the steps to
investigate a crime and or a claim.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
Yes, or an affair.
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
My manager gave away my private information to my estranged grandfather.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
What does he want with that?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Trigger warning? Stocking and workplace privacy breed yay, I twenty
two female have been working at the same retail job
for over six years now.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I will not be naming the company as it is
fairly small, but I loved working for this business. By
the way, this comes from Electrical Box eighty nine nineteen
And if you want to submit your own stories, go
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you do in the comments and op says I moved
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to a different store earlier this year due to management issues.
I'll try not to get into it, but I had
the same manager for the first four years, and I
adored her. Unfortunately, she moved to a different store, and
the new manager was definitely not.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
The right fit.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
We clashed very often, and if I'm being totally honest,
we were both fairly toxic. I think she created the
toxic environment, but I definitely did not help the situation.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I was poisoning at it on top of it. It
was just the.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Little poisoned cherry on top of the poisoned PI. There
were about six other people who quit or move to
a different store because of her behavior, which I think
is very telling, as there were only ten employees when
she started. Anyways, after about one year of working with
this new manager, I couldn't take the toxicity and work
drama anymore, and I decided to move to a different store.
(01:45):
Until this week, I had zero contact with my old manager,
and I was happy to just let everything go and
kind of forgive her in my mind. Okay, now, I
don't think I can do that. On Monday, I was
rostered on for work, but I ended up calling in safe.
I work every single Monday, so I felt really bad. Well,
looking back, I'm extremely grateful that I was not.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
At work okay. Oh.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
An old man came up to the store and asked
my coworker if I was there. She assumed it was
a family member, so she called over my brother, as
he was the one who covered my shift that day. Sorry, bro,
does your brother work there? Sounds like it, that'd be
super funny if he didn't work there. And she was
just like, I brought my brother. I'm gonna bring my
brother and he's gonna fill in my shift. He asked
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my brother if he knew who he was, and my
brother had absolutely no clue. It turns out that he
was our grandfather on my dad's side, whom we had
never met or spoken to before.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
He continued on and said that he didn't want to
talk to my brother. He only wanted to talk to me.
Oh lovely, Oh oh no, no, no, no, that's weird,
that's nice.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I don't like that. Yeah, I think he has something.
He has a will to give you his inheritance, but only, oh, pe,
not your brother.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
My brother told him that I was not there, and
thankfully he just left. When my brother came home and
told me this, I was so incredibly angry. My dad
was as well, as he had not contacted his father
in over twenty five years. I hated the fact that
he tried to catch me at my job where I
couldn't really run away. Then my mind went to how
the heck.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Did he know where I was?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It was gonna be my question is.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Like, yeah, he know you were, How did he find
you there?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
If it's like this small store and he's been estranged
for twenty five years?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
As wait, does he know that that was your brother?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Like, so I think he knew that?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Interesting?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Probably? Oh boy, what does the soul guy want? I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I don't trust him. This part might sound a bit confusing,
but I'll try my best, Okay. My dad and his
sister had a fine relationship until about two years ago.
My aunt knew where I worked, but she does not
know that I moved to a different store, as we
have not had any contact with her. My aunt was
also in contact with my grandfather, so we assumed she
(04:00):
might have told him where I worked, but he would
have no knowledge about me moving stores.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Ooh, so there's someone that leaked that part at the
other store.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Then ah, yeah, because she left that store because of
the toxic boss. How toxic was that boss?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And are they still toxic?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
The next day, I went to the old store I
worked at to see if anyone had asked about me.
I went directly to my manager and asked to speak
with her in private. We went into the back and
I asked her if an older man came in and
asked if I was working. It turned out that he
did go to that store first, but my old manager
told him I had moved stores. Ah, what kind of
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stupid person gives out that kind of information?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Oh uh, the toxic one. Yeah, the toxic one. Yeah,
that's that's that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
She she if she had just if she just said, oh,
she moves stores, she doesn't work here anymore, that's maybe okay,
unless there's only like two stores around.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
But if she told the location not good, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Are you kidding? In this moment, I saw red. I
was definitely giving her attitude at this point, but I
asked if she had said anything else to him. She
casually admitted that she told him I always work Mondays
and if he went to that store now, he could
still catch me. The company has an app where you
can see when everyone is rostered on, even people at
the other stores. So even though I thought it was
very weird that she looks at my roster enough to
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notice that I work every Monday. I was too mad
to get into it. I started to laugh in disbelief.
I went off at her and said something like, are
you effing kidding me? I have no clue who this
man is, and you have just told him where and
when I work. To be very truthful, I was full
on yelling at this point, which started a heated argument
that went on for a while.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Awesome. Ashley says, that's illegal. Yeah, and if you get
a good lawyer, you'll never have to work again.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Oh yeah, you cannot just give out that kind of
information to strangers.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
By the way, Sophia works every Tuesday from two to midnights.
It's true, and you can find her on Okay, story Time,
on YouTube, Facebook, or it's Kiley.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
You just gave away my private information that nobody knew.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Quick Sue him, sued sue me.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
To summarize the argument, I started yelling at her first.
She said that she had done nothing wrong, but I disagreed.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Her excuse was that he told her he was my grandfather.
My response was that he could have lied, been a stalker,
or been dangerous. She told me there's nothing she could
do anymore, so I should just get over it. I
called her an e fing sword and I left, lovely.
That might you get you in trouble.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
The grandpa loophole, she.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Was like, he said he was your grandpa. It's like
if like a serial unliver is like knocks at your
door and is like, hey, I'm your brother, and they're like,
I've never met you before, but you said you're my
brother in wow.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
What huh?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah, and take people at their words. Thought to double
check these things.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yup, that's true safety one oh one? Yeah, what was
really going through this manager's mind?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I think she just like doesn't like that girl, I agree,
or or it is just not very smart.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I oh, yeah, because I left.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I know it was not the best way to go
about the situation and that I should not have started
yelling and swearing at her, But I have never been
so enraged. Beginning of the conversation, we were both civil,
but her lack of accountability and no apology tipped me
over the edge. Little did I know while this was happening,
my grandfather went to the store I worked at again.
(07:39):
He also went in two days later, on the Thursday.
Thankfully you have not been working when he comes in,
but now I'm extremely paranoid. Anyways, my old manager obviously
went to HR about the whole situation, which I do understand.
There's so much history between us and me coming in
and calling her an effing C word probably should have
been brought up. Yesterday, I had a meeting with the
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CEO of the company, a manager, and some other guy
who kind of manages the managers.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
The meeting was extremely awkward, and I admitted that my
behavior was inappropriate, which is true, and I apologize to
my manager. She accepted my apology, and they were wrapping
up the meeting, but I interrupted to discuss how she
gave a random stranger my personal information.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Boom.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Now yet you said, I apologize for my actions, and
they said, oh, well, I.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Guess it is. I'll done.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And you said, how Webburn, I don't apologize for calling
her out forgiven my information, and then Mike drop and
they all went.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
They all went for a million dollars.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
The response to this was not great. They basically said
that there was no ill intent behind her doing this,
and simply telling my grandfather where I worked did not
warrant that response. I explained that he is a stranger
to me, and he has now come in the store
multiple times, and I am very upset about the whole situation.
They said, we can discuss this at a later date,
but this is not really what this meeting was about.
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But it was about that.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
It literally was about that here though, Well, okay.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So I think OP went around about this wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I agree. I don't that initial meeting was not that
because you know how like you go to court, yeah,
and you have new evidence and you have boom evidence,
It's like who whoa, whoa, whoa. We weren't talking about that.
We weren't. We were not We're not here there And
also like the defenses whoever, everyone has to be aware
of the evidence. Yeah, that's what I think needs to
happen here is or like not everyone knows what's actually
happening here exactly. We got to make another meeting to
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discuss this.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I think that OP should have before her manager, even
like her old manager even filed the complaint to HR.
She should have gone to her managers and said, hey,
this happened. I reacted poorly. Well, she should never actually
have gone to confront the manager. She should have confronted
HR and said this happened. This is totally unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, that would.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Be my first thing after she already confronts the manager again.
You go to HR, you say this happened. I'm sorry
for doing that. However, it's completely inappropriate that she revealed
man version.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah, you should have gone to before get ahead of
the story. Yeah, go ah gosh, complaint for complaint.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Right there, I left crying. I was so incredibly frustrated
and embarrassed because of our history. This situation made it
seem like I was just dragging up old stuff for
the sake of it, and that my manager had done
nothing wrong. I've asked my family and friends for their
opinion on this whole situation, and they have all kind
of said they see both sides. I think that is
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their way of saying I'm wrong, but they don't want
to tell me. I honestly think that even though my
response and how I handled the whole situation was very wrong,
my manager is still the one at fault. I need
someone who does not know me or my manager to
tell me if I'm being delusional. Am I the ale
and there is an update? I think that you were
in the wrong for how you reacted, and had you
(10:47):
gone through the proper channels, you might have your complaint.
Your complaint might.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Have been received better and you could have got a
big check.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Because I think that you were right to be upset.
Oh yeah, I think that is totally a breach of privacy.
But I think because you reacted in that way, they're
less likely to take you serious. Now.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's one of those moments where you gotta
not let your emotions take control and you gotta think
before you know, you say kind of thing, which is
sometimes really impossible to do in the moment, or like
when you're just really heated or really in that mindset.
But yeah, I agree, this one could have been a
(11:26):
big paycheck and so much easier. You just like worded
it better or went into it with a better mindset.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I understand you were angry, but that was not the
correct response in that moment. I agreed, And maybe it
might have it again, and you could you've learned from
these mistakes. You're only twenty two year she's young. This
could happen again. You'll be ready.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
No, we don't want that, don't know, but there is.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
An update and we do want that. A lot has
happened since my original post, so I'll try to keep
it brief.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I need advice.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Oh no, I'm going to quit my job. That's yeah,
probably the right move.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I agree. I cannot quit right this second.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I'm a broke UNI student, but as soon as I
find a new job, I'm out of there. I actually
would have preferred to work something out with HR, but
I basically have a stalker now, so there's no way
I feel comfortable working at that store anymore. I would
have just moved to another store from this company, but
the only other store that is close to where I
live was the one I already left. After my post,
which was last Saturday, my grandfather ended up coming to
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my work every single day. On Monday, he came up
to me. I thought he was a customer, so I
approached him like anyone else, and he just asked me
if I knew who he was. Once he said that
I knew it was him, I said no, I didn't
know who he was, and he told me he was
my grandfather. I just replied with, oh, lovely. It was
so awkward. I asked him if there was anything I
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could help him with, and he just said wait ay
to talk. I said okay, waiting for him to keep talking,
but he told me he wanted to speak in private.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
This is so creepy. Sorry.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, if I was Ope's father personally, I'd probably be
breaking that silence to say, don't ever talk to my
daughter again.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, I would be like this, I know, like what
is going on? Oh yeah yeah, like with the boss saying,
oh yeah, we kind of see where everyone's it's that
like that grandfather has come out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
It seems like nobody really cares about Op's experience right now.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I said that is not happening, and that if he
doesn't buy anything, I'm going to have to ask him
to leave. I work in a shopping center, and the
story workout is not the store that you can actually
walk into. You just walk up to a counter. It
kind of looks like a deli with a grocery store,
if that makes sense. He went over to the bench
that faced our store and just sat there staring at me.
This took place around four PM, and our store closes
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at five point thirty Lovely on Mondays. I always close
by myself. There are not enough customers to justify putting
more people on after like three o'clock. When five thirty
around he was still there. I'm not gonna lie. I
was crapping myself. I really did not know what to do,
so my plan was to just speed walk past him
and walk to my car. Ope, you are young, but
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you're not that young. You need to call your parents,
call someone and say, hey.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Pick me up, mall security, pick me up.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You had an hour and a half. You call someone.
You called all security, called boss. You say there is
a stalker outside. I do not feel safe.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
There's a movie about a guy that could help you.
All Blart mall klop.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
He would have rest, he did, and he would have
as expected. He started following me and calling after me.
I did not look back once, just got into my
car and drove off. I need help with his part.
As I was driving off, I saw him take a
photo of my car. I have no idea why he
did that. I thought maybe he wanted my license plate.
If anyone knows what the reason for this is, please
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tell me. After this, I told my current manager what happened,
and she then contacted HRS so she could have a
meeting with them to sum up what happened At the meeting,
they said that they can ban him from all stores. Lovely,
adjust my work hours, report him to the police if necessary,
help me apply for a restraining order. If all that
does not help, well, there at least there's that.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
At least there's that some movement. Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
The meeting happened Tuesday, and every day since my original
post he has come to the store. Thankfully, I have
been allocated to all the jobs that do not require
me to be outfront serving customers. I am also not
doing the closing shifts anymore. He will come to the store,
ask for me, and then he is told he needs
to leave because I am out back and cannot be seen.
He will usually leave after looking at the comments under
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this post. I have been documenting everything good and reporting
it straight to my manager.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Oh my guys.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
The only reason I think i'll bother with the restraining
order is if he finds my new place of employment.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
After I quit. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, I don't think that he has any other information
about me. The only thing that I am certain of
is that he knows what university I am attending. It's
a huge uni, so I'm not too concerned about that.
I am praying that once I find a new job,
you won't be able to contact me anymore.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, this is crazy, really scary, really really scary.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
I don't know. This doesn't make any sense. The only
way I'll be okay with all of this is if
you had a large sum of money.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, you're like, I need to give you money.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Please let me talk to you. I have so much
money to give you.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Okay. Would you guys actually take money from someone you
really don't know, like that, like a large monney? Well exactly,
I would say, like, what strings are attached? Let's go
six figures?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
What strings are attached?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
We don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
We don't know the strings.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
We don't know because we don't know this person. This
person is like, I just want to give you this money.
And I'm your grandfa. I'm your grandfather.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I want a contract.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I'll take that money.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
If you take that money, if something I'm ready to do,
I'm stalking you.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Next question, are you taking it in cash or check?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Cash?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Riley? Why? Because the check is due you have to
take tax out if you get it is because if
tags is risey right. Response, I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
I remember it made sense in the context that I
was bringing it up in.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
You didn't want to carry on all that money.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yes, it's gonna be at dangerous. You were picking up
random money.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Hundre K would be like, you know those thick, thick
things with money, be like ten of.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Those, And now I understand I could carry it around
a small devil bag. I was picturing in a large
all in ones riley in my mind.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Ones. Yeah, meaning says random theory. What if Gramps is
there to warn her about something.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
He's like, I've come back to want you.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
There's more stockers coming?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Well, then why wouldn't you tell her?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Yeah, dude, why why can't you tell that, like in
front of everyone.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I don't trust a person who says I need to get.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
You alone in the time.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, a person I don't know, A random guy I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Right here with me and the customers, who cares. If
it's about family, I don't even know who they are, right.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
If it's about family, bring your brother, bring your dad,
bring anyone.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
But there's a little bit left to the story. A
lot of people were telling me that I could sue
my old manager and or the company. So I asked
a few of my UNI friends that are studying law.
They basically said that it might technically be possible to
sue my old manager or the company as our actions
were a breach of confidentiality and privacy and illegal where
I'm from, but it's very difficult and unlikely to be
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worth it financially as I do not have any physical
evidence that my old manager's actions directly caused or worsened
the stocking. I know this was not the happiest of updates,
but once I leave this job, I'll never have to
think about my grandfather or that effing C word again.
Any other advice would be greatly appreciated. I have no
clue what I'm doing. Y.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, it's a tough situation.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
You're a young girl.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Mm hmm, you're figuring it out. It's scary out there.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
My advice would be to go to people in power sooner.
Go to your manager, Go to HR, go to your parents,
Go to people that are able to fix this.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
You know, Reddit can't help redd it can advise you,
but yeah, to point you in the right direction. Go
to these people who actually have the power to fix us.
Find your nearest mall cop.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah, find the end of that story.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
What creepy Grandpa's dogger. I know that if he didn't,
did he look creepy? That sucks? But was he like?
I feel like the vibe of this would have been
different if he looked mystical. Yeah, it was a wizard.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
He looked like he had he had.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Please come, I have to talk to you. Please boom
talk to him side quest. Yeah there, I am did
not get those vibes you go.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I was reported to HR for inappropriate dancing at the
company holiday party.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
They just can't handle your swagger.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Every year my company hosts a big formal holiday party
with best stress competition. This year, I decided to go
for it. By the way, this comes from chihuaba Is Crossed.
If you want my own stories, go to the Freaking
Okay Storytime Subredded. I'm Riley, I'm Sophia, I'm Keon, and
we're here to give good advice. Goofully. We don't have
all the answers. We only know we would know, and
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if you have anything that you would know, we'd love
to read it in the comments, so we would love
to know it. We read them all, don't.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I read the ones that I'm my naming him.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I read the ones I have Keon's naming them and
I don't read them at all. I've been sewing my
own clothing for a few years now.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Ay yo, that's who my mommy does.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
And occasionally do costumes for Drag and Berlins's show Sick.
Just Angie, Just Future Angie, Future Angie. What is she
doing on the holidays? It's a good dancer, Angie's you
know this? Yeah, I remember her birthday party. She's a
good dancer. Geez. Yeah. In working on the costumes, I've
learned a lot of coture techniques in gown making, lots
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of feathers, beads and spar goal in both communities, but
I hadn't had the chance to make myself something wearable
using anything I learned. The holiday party felt like the
right time to make something myself, something beautiful and to
show it off. Yeah. I end up making a floor
length red satin gown with a big bow in the back,
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matching opera gloves and a sparkly white faux first stole.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I don't know what a stole is, but I'm assuming
it's like one of.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Those kind of I was gonna say, like a sash.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
But it's like one of those things that you wear
like kind of like on your like it goes a star.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
It's not a star, yeah kind of, it's not sash,
it's got.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
On your arms.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah yeah. It was significantly less literally than initially planned.
But once the bass came together, I decided I liked
the look of the satin undisturbed and left it alone.
The dress was a big hit. It was glamorous. I
felt beautiful in it, and people were shocked that I
hadn't made it all myself. I was best dressed.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Overalls can go yes, Yes, you're too powerful, You're too beautiful. Ah,
you're too beautiful.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Stop it.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Every time someone won, they got to go out onto
the dance floor and do a little fashion walk. It's
been around, answer a couple of questions, and they go
to sit down. What is my turn to walk? I
did a few things I've seen that for less shows,
drag shows, probably a few old Hollywood movies. Oh, I
did the slow side step with wavy arms, shrugged off
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the stone, better to show off the boat and look
down over my shoulder. I think I did a three
step turnaround at some point. Nothing racy or inappropriate in
less than a minute long.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Oh that's it arm that you literally you went you
went like you went da and then you went like
you're like, turn here andyone dude, that's it.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
And someone reported that I'm gonna just be real with
you and I'm sorry, this is gonna come off as
a little harsh. Some old dude probably got what to do.
And the side of them, Yeah, our report, it's her fault.
She's a witch. She's a witch. She did this to me.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
She's a hot witch.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
It's like the plot of freaking one battle after another. Yes, yeah,
you haven't seen.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Have you seen it? No? Anyway, someone reported it to HR.
I got caught in a few days after the party
and was told that my dancing had made people uncomfortable. Hard.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, honestly, I think that's it, because that's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
That is absolutely ridiculous. I asked if there were multiple reports,
and they said there was only one.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Then why did you see people that.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
That's absolutely ridiculous to get one report. If they were
there at that party and they saw no problem with it,
then they should not have brought it up at all.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Well, if one person reported it, then multiple people had
problems with it.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, everyone was like that.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
It was probably probably someone high up or a partner
or something like that.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah, like someone HR needs to make happy.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
It was hr oh and she's a woman and her
husband was like, oh my gosh, can't you dance like that?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
And she's like, I hate you.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
They gave me the work parties are still work speech,
and they let me go. They didn't even really give
me a chance to say anything. I am so frustrated.
Their dress was work party appropriate, my walk was work
party appropriate, and no one said a single negative thing
to my face. I'm still proud of myself and the dress,
but it feels like majorly misplaced effort. What a creuddy
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way to start the break and in the work here,
what do you guys think? Genuinely, I don't think you
did anything wrong?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Well, nah, I think you question you say. I think
you ate that up.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I think you slayed too hard, that's what you did.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
They're just jealous that you went off.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah, I think there's going on here. What line of
work are you in? I don't think I.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Think even if it was like a professional office, I think.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
That they're all accountants.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, I think that, Well, clearly some accountant is not
getting anything and he's like, oh a I'm just so
worked up seeing you walk down the aisle.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Some of that that is the same voice that my
mom talks about her Irish account. She had to switch
accounts recently, and that guy gives her a hard time
and he's like, I think he likes it. I have
to tell him to his work and he likes it.
Just likes crazy. But I don't think you did anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I think that you based on what you told us,
unless you did something else that doesn't sound inappropriated.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
This, yeah, I know so many video this I need
to know exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Needs video evidence and he needs to make Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Not like that.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I just need to know, Like, no, I get what
you're saying.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Just like the context of everything. If everyone looks like
they work an accounting firm and you're the only one
that has a spark of life in them, then I
can see where someone has a problem with it.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
It just feels kind of like when like a woman
who wears a very normal like office attire but is
maybe curber, gets in trouble just because she's curvier. And
in this case it's you literally were wearing a normal
tire walk down the thing, and as maybe someone like
thought you were is like thought you were attractive or
is jealous for some reason and takes it out on you.
And then instead of HR being like, well that's unreasonable,
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we were there. No one else said any other complaints.
They you know, didn't do that.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Ali says work parties are a great way to get fired.
I guess so we've read a few indeed. Update, Oh wow.
I did not expect the response this has gotten. I
think I was still annoyed because I hadn't really got
to talk to anyone about it yet. Thank you for
letting me vent and sharing your perspectives, HR stories and humor.
I feel a lot lighter just reading through the comments.
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I just want to clarify two things, since my mention
of burlesque has rightfully made it sound like I brought
my inner jesca rabbit to a stuffy work function. First,
the moves I added to my walk are not specific
to burlesque and can be found in virtually all forms
of dance. I only mentioned burlesque and drag because that's
where I learned about him. I'm not a dancer, it
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never have been. The sideways walk is used a lot
in burlesque and drag because it's a really good way
to show an audience your outfit with it, not just
doing a regular catwalk around the stage. Moving sideways keeps
your torso so the front of your outfit is facing
the audience, and arms up and out on the hips
keeps the outfit in full view. Variations of this can
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be seen in musicals, ballroom dances, and the wavy arms
are inspired by ballet. Depending on how you move, it
can be graceful, sexy, or kind of clamp camp camp. Yeah,
like drag, why is this an adjective?
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Camp is like it's like in a lot of quick
what tense, tense, fire, no, no, no. Camp just means
like it's like exaggerated. It's showy, like in drag. A
lot of drag is very campy. It's like you you
wanna have big makeup and like if you've seen Rocky
Horror picture show, that's that's camp. It's supposed to be
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kind of like.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I don't like this word. I don't like the way
that it's us queer word. So oh yeah, oh okay, okay.
So every time I think of camp, I'm like, how
does this dance feel like we're in the middle of
the woods. Yeah, telling a scary story around the fire.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
It's usually used in queer communities to refer to, but
it's not exclusively. You can you can see how do they.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Come up with camp? Camp is like, I don't know
where that does not That sounds like the opposite camp.
Let's see. You keep reading in all the very oxy
more on the right word for this.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
I don't think so. I've been trying to work oxymoron
into a sentence. It has been difficult. Probably should read
the definition of okay. Variations of this dance can be
seen in musicals, ballroom dances, and the wavy arms are
inspired by by let. Depending on how you move, it
could be graceful, sexy, or kind of camp. I was
trying to be graceful, show off the dress and make
the glitter on this stole sparkle. Second, what do you got?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Well, it just says so far as says an aesthetic
in sensibility to regards something as appealing or amusing because
of its heightened level of artifice, affection, and exaggeration. I'm
still searching for where the word origins and development. Camp
may have been derived from the gay slang polari, which
borrowed the term from the Italian camparere or from the
French term say gamper, meaning to pose in an exaggerated fashion.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Okay, it cowers.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
From yeah, it comes from that checks out for the
modern sense of camp flamboyant, do that, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yeah, bench and rich are always doing things outside down.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
British cross stresher Frederick Park referred to his campush undertakings
in eighteen seventy.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
It's over the top.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Interesting alright, this is new to I didn't know the
origins of the word, so that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Second, almost everyone who walks each year does their best
impression or a really campy imitation of a fashion model's catwalk.
Some people really swing their hips, and most stop at
the end of the runway and do the model hip
pop over the shoulder, look at into the camera. Last year,
the guy who won Best Dress showed up in a
gold sequence suit and did a genuine ballroom Paris is
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burning ballroom, not Waltz catwalk. That would have been very
scandalous if a woman had done it. Okay, this just
makes me think that someone had a crush on you, yeah,
and found a way out.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
And then it's again, I think that hr instead of
actually looking at the complaint, just wrote it off and
didn't actually care to investigate. Instead took it out on you.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Mm hmm, yeah, hey's John og host. We're gonna get
back to the stories, but a quick three minute break
of ads from our sponsors. There was also a time
for actual dancing towards the end of the night, and
there were definitely people every year who get a little loose.
Somebody did get called in for wasted twerking last year,
but she was kind of a mess that whole month,
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so it might have been something else. I literally thought
she twirked or something. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
That means like you didn't do any of that. You
literally walked sideways, did like a this walk and then
turn your head over your shoulder.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
That's it. Fun please, yeah, lokey, for real.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
You guys are boring people at your job.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I do understand that maybe my attempt of being graceful
may have come off as sex yer. Then it's ended,
like when girls are nice to guys. I thought it
was flirting. No, I could see that. I was banking
on the fact that the moves are not burlesque or
drag specific. The gown itself is not form fitting, it's
a full skirt, and felt like the others swaying their
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hips down the runway was less work appropriate than ballerina arms.
Maybe I was wrong, Maybe I was right. I'll come
up with something else if I get to walk again
next year. Thanks for the laughs and support. We got
an update two months later. I think we actually get
a good answer.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I hope. So. I hope it's like we know, I
now know who called me out, and now they're getting
fired because they do.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
If this happened to me at work, I would try
my best to laugh it off, even though it's like
a serious awkward meeting.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Oh hey, it's really awkward, But it doesn't seem like
it is actually affecting your job. Yeah, I think it
doesn't seem like you're on probation. Yeah, it doesn't seem
like any of your other coworkers knew or no. So
I think maybe I don't think it's a huge deal.
It's super annoying and like disrespectful of them, But.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I don't know. Would we go around the office or
wherever you work, wherever op works? You'm like, who thought
my dance was scandalous?
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
You just take a pull what'd you think of my dance?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Like you see?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Who says yes, he's swift, he says, so the hater
is gonna hate.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Hey, I'm gonna just shake it off.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
In December, I posted here about being called into HR
for inappropriate dancing tldr M. I pumply host a holiday
party every year with a best dress competition where winners
get to do a catwalk to show off their outfits.
I made my own dress one best dress overall. It
did a sidestep, wavy arm, and a three point turn,
and someone reported me jhar I was going to post
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any updates because the outcome was pretty bland, but I'll
be gone yesterday. I was shocked to see how much
more activity on the post had gotten after I initially
logged out and thought that maybe someone would like to
read about what happened. Long story short, someone in HR
did not do their due diligence and I was being
called in by mistake. I knew it.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I That's what I thought. I feel like HR got
a complaint and instead of actually investigating it, were just like, whatever,
we're just gonna callop in ew Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Half arsed yes, as only came to lie after a
New Year's Eve party not work related, where the same
person complained about my inappropriate dancing. I was out of
town on New Year's.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yep, yep, that guy got a better get, like on
probation or fired or something.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
The guy who made the report initially went to HR
to complain about a woman in a red dress from
my department trying to dance with him at the holiday party.
Apparently he didn't know her name, and the person he
talked to did not ask for more identifying information. This
person decided that I must be the woman in the
red dress, despite the fact that there were multiple women
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and red dresses at the holiday party and had arranged
for the initial meeting.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Ah, you were the lady in reddy.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
You're the look. You're the only lady that was in
red that they thought of.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah, you're just so striking in your dress.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I mean, yeah, you stood out.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
You won two awards that day.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Once we came back to the office after the holiday break,
I was once again called at the HR. They told
me that they normally didn't talk to employees about personal conflicts,
but since I had repeated a behavior that they had
already warned me about, they felt it was necessary to
meet with me again. This prompted a back and forth.
I apologize for my walk at the holiday party, and
I said I understand that some people may have found
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it too risk ay, but that I hadn't done it
again and don't intend to. They said this was about
the dancing. I told them the only dancing I had
done at the party was the walk. They said the
walk was fine, this was about the dancing. This is
so annoying. Oh.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
He's like, yeah, I understand my walk. And they're like,
it's not about the walks, about the dancing. And she's like, well,
I danced at the thing, and they're like, no, it's
not about that.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
It's about the dancing.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
And she's like, what dancing are you talking about.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
We're just going back and forth.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Oh my god, I would be so annoyed in this wedding.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
How do they show you this? They don't do.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Any investigation at this HR fire.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
The HR couldn't this gracious. Oh that's kind of scary. Yeah.
At some point, one of the HR reps outlined the
initial complaint to me.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah, I'm sorry they didn't even tell you what the
complaint is.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
That's what I was saying. Which was dancing with a coworker.
I told them I don't danced with any coworkers that night,
nor had it even been on the dance floor. Then
I asked them have been to any New Year's Eve parties?
And I told them I've been out of town. This
essentially ended the meeting. I assumed they realized they were
talking to the wrong person and the issue of privacy
kicked in. I was given an apology by the head
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of HR a few days ago. Afterwards, good They told
that this situation was being dealt.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
With finally, all right, Oh yeah, they're like, oh, maybe
we should actually investigate the claims and instead of accusing
a person that just like we have no proof, yeah
of the maybe we should one ask them if they
did that. Yeah, you start the meeting off of, hey,
this is the complaint, was that you did you do that?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
What do you have to say about that?
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Instead of starting with like, you can't do this again,
because that's a stupid way to start a conversation.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
I would really like to read whoever this HR complaint
read story.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Oh yeah, they're like, oh, he keeps dancing, she's dancing,
she's enticing me without us.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
This dude's like getting hit on. I guess his will though. Yeah,
if that's that's what I.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Caught that the other person, it doesn't even seem like
the person who reported it, who was the same person,
was the person dancing with that red dress lady. Seems
like he saw someone else dancing with a woman in
the red red dress and then reported that.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Oh I see, So it seems like he's just freaking jealous.
Maybe I don't know. I need more I need more
contact on that. Yeah, one person doesn't work here anymore,
but I don't know if that was the HR rep
and whether or not if that person was fired.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah, I think this is all working out.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
I would be like, I don't know. I feel like,
what what do you What do you need? I need?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
I need HR to give me money, apology.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
I need days mix up.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, I need days off.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Like lunch, I need lunch and dinner.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
I'd be like, ah, thank you for apologizing. I'm actually
incredibly hurt by this accusation.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Stressed me out a lot, and it's.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Stressed it affected my my work.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
You footloosed me. I thought I couldn't dance anymore.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I thought I.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Couldn't dance ever again.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Oh my gosh, and.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Therefore I want these. These are my demands.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
I want to dance, and I want to dance with
my food.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
I want to dance, pay somebody there we go. I
want to feel the heat with somebody.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I want to dance.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
I think I know who the real woman in Red
was unless she was in Burgundy.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
They mistic Red and Burgundy.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
She's like, I think I know who it was unless
she was in Burgundy.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Then I don't know. This was a toss up, but
I have no idea whether she's been spoken to. Well,
don't stitch on her. I don't know the guy she
was trying to dance with. Still feel weird about everything
when I think about it, but I think that's because
I don't know what went on with the two people
who were actually involved. I don't think it was very often,
which is good. Thanks again for all your hr stories
(38:21):
thoughts in humor. I didn't realize how frustrated I was
about not being able to talk to anyone about the
comments really helped.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Yeah, man, seen the story, dude, I kind of wonder
what was going on?
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Actually, yeah, what actually was happening with the other two people?
Oh yeah, like.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah, no, And I'm wondering, I'm wondering how explicit or
like risque this woman other woman's dancing actually was. If
this guy already complained about Ope's dancing, yeah, you know,
like was it just kind of normal dancing?
Speaker 3 (38:56):
And then he was like.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Ah, she did not dance, saying what me? That's what
I want to know. But also I hope that either
the HR guy or that guy who keeps reporting people
he's out of here.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Agreed. Agreed.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
I was accused of sleeping with my coworker twice.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
My age ew.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
And this comes directly from the r slash Okay storytime
subpared it. No, I thirties female work in a male
dominated field. My current job, which I've been at for
years now, is surprisingly filled with a lot of drama
despite being mainly only men at or only a few
years shy retirement age. Those men are getting nipped to
(39:35):
crete easy things.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Those men have nothing to lose.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I am so bored. I'm retiring next year. I want
to spice it.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Up, and they're about to just go to a retirement home.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yep, I am the only female that works on the floor.
By the way, this comes from New York two seven
to two and if you want to spit your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay storytime subpred it.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
I'm Sophia, I'm Riley, I'm Keon.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
And we're here to give good advice. But we don't
have all the answers. Don't you only know what we'd do,
So let us know what you would do in the comments,
and Opie says, I safely assumed the typical workplace drama
that comes with a female working in a male workforce
wouldn't be there due to the fact everyone at my
work has decades on me in age. Ah, but you've
(40:19):
kind of forgotten that the men not twice your age
and might be kind of creepy.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Dang, Opie fell for misogyny.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Dang, She's like, no, there's no misogyny here. Older men
never do misogyny, Opie.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
I know you're doing black coffee and spoke cigarettes too.
You're an old man. We know who you are.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
I've had zero trouble with any of these men, even
though I was hesitant due to being their boss and
younger than most of their children. However, I have one coworker,
seventies male, who I get along with very well because
he reminds me of my dad, who is my best friend.
I love that while it worked. During downtime, we will
shoot the crap about cars, football, and baseball. We text
(41:02):
while it worked to communicate so that I don't have
to go and find him every time I need to
perform some type of task. It's a big building, and
it's easier for me to keep doing what I'm doing
and text him what to do to save time, especially
in busy season. Now on to the fun part of this.
His wife, seventies female, has never been brought up too
much at work. The few things he has said to
me that involved her struck me as odd, but I'm
(41:25):
not one to pry. The one day the first year
he started working with me, my coworker seemed off and
like something was wrong. He had been having some health spats,
and I asked if he was doing all right. His
response was just upset because my kids don't want to
visit us for Easter because of my wife, thinking she
might not be the biological mother. I just said, oh, stepmom,
problems can be hard. Turns out she is the biological mother.
(41:50):
You made a wild assumption. I would not have assumed
that just because he says, they don't want to see
their mom.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
I mean, if you're on step to cellbred for step moms,
I guess, so I guess on that.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Yeah, she's on that, you know, on that thought process
right now. But I would not have just said like, oh,
step moms. I honestly would have done the same thing.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Really, I almost asked a couple at my church when
they said, like, you're having a kid. I was like, oh,
did you do a paternity test? I almost asked it,
but I had to stop myself.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
I'm glad you didn't do that. I didn't ask any
further questions because there were other coworkers around. Fast forward
another six months and he asked me if I could
possibly just find him when I need to do something
at work. I said sure, without questioning anything. Coworker later
takes me to the side because of the texting thing, yeah,
and says he needs to warn me about something. Yeah,
(42:42):
I'm sure some other coworkers saw that she was texting
him and then assumed something.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
I was assuming that winter's coming. He just coming. That's
the vibe I got that. He just imst wolln you
should do. Your life will be had.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Just mix two things right now.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Yeah, she did.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
He proceeded what I didn't mix them up.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
I got to know into a different thing.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
He proceeded to tell me that his wife looked at
his phone and now thanks for sleeping together at my
place of work.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
But the text messages are, hey, did you plug that
thing into my box at work?
Speaker 1 (43:16):
And she said what does this mean? And he said,
I was talking about the computer.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Your combobulator looks larger than it usually does. She's like,
what does that mean?
Speaker 1 (43:24):
He's like, with the combobulator at.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Work, it just combobulated.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (43:30):
What to do?
Speaker 1 (43:31):
I was regulating the combobulator.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
I'm always asking Kean to plug things in for.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Me, mm hmm, and I do it with consent, usually
on his knees.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
First off, my place of work is not somewhere that
this would be very feasible to do anyway, guys, mingman,
I wasn't mixing it up. I was adding another reference.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
You were you were.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
I wasn't mixing it up. I was making a Gandolf reference.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
But you also put in a guy reference in there.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yeah, I made two separate reference.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
No, you did that. I did the god and then
you repeated my God, the Lord of the Rings with
the winter is coming. Yeah, I was, I was moving on.
It's okay to remix, were remixing, Yeah, it was remixing.
All right, we'll give you that.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
It's all fantasy.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
But she is I I've never even read William Thrones.
I don't care.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
That's a lot.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
She is absolutely convinced that my text him are codes
for spicy related acts. I think this is exactly what
you just said, example a text coworker, can you bring
this to that area please? And she thinks that means
to meet me in the back of my work to
do things to him.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Come on, make it that was that was nothing going
on to a good one.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Think about this makes my stomach turn because this man
is in his seventies.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
He reminds me of my dad, and I am.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
In a long term relationship with a child of my own.
She's also claiming I want to steal him from her
for money, which is a crazy concept because I am
his boss and make over double what he does. There
are so many more outrageous things she has said, and
word got around at work, as it always does, about
his wife and how she thought we were sleeping together.
(45:09):
It was a joking matter for about a year round
our workplace, with everyone poking fun at the situation until
one night. Oh, this woman decided to show up at
our work and proceeded to text coworker that.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
She wanted to fight me.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Oh my god, Sorry, a seventy year old woman showed
up at your work and was like, I'm gonna fight you.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
Let's start that ring that bell. I'm ready.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
I want to see you. That's crazy. That would be
the highlight of my whole year. That's freaking I'll be
ready for it.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
That's my nana's age. That's if my nana came to
someone's workplace and I was like, I'm fighting you, I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Want to fight my grandpa. He's about seventy. Yeah, he's
pretty well, but he works with saw mills.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
But he's not that old. Like, I feel like you're
still you can still be pretty spry.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Yeah you're pretty young.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Yeah, Like my aunt is inner seventies and she's like
pretty spry. Play with dude and she like she still
goes on ikes with me and stuff. Oh wow, Yeah,
she's like really great shape. She looks pretty young.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
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but a quick three minute break of ads from a
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Speaker 1 (46:05):
Man, I can only hope to have this much spark
left in me in my seventies.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
A lot of people do. Somebody's not that old.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Our work is guarded and she wasn't able to get in, thankfully,
but it still threw me for a loop.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Fun fact, this is one of our own still right,
Oh my goodness comments. I want to see your name? Yeah, Lois,
is this? I think that you need.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
To talk to your friend.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
He fighter, That's what I'm.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Yes, I don't think you should ever talk to her.
I don't know if you were planning on it, but
I don't think you should ever like go to her
because it's not your relationship. It's on your you know,
seven year old friend to manage his own relationship. Okay,
And it seems like no one at your workplace believes
this lie, so that's good.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
I think I think talk to your friend and say
he like, she can't be coming you need to have
a conversation with her, or we need to talk to
our boss because she can't be coming in here.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
When I'm trying to do my job, I'm your boss.
Actually she's oh, he's the boss.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
But also then it gives that it gives that perspective
of like, yeah, a dominating boss over a coworker, and
the coworker drop it only so little, just like you
and Kiel. You're like, I'm like stand there and you're like, Okay.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
I decided to take coworker to the side. I have
a serious conversation about it. That's what I just said.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
And it turns out that for a while now, pretty
much since the day she looked at her texts, she's
been trying to figure out how to catch us and
find a way to tell my man about us. She's
been unsuccessful so far because I only have one form
of social media and it's brand new and on lockdown
since day one. Anyway, just figured i'd share this little
funny story of how I'm a gold digger trying to
sleep with a man well over twice my age.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
Whoa. She admitted it at the end she hadn't met
it as she's actually doing it. She said it right there, Okay,
crazy little okay storytelling. Yeah, my parents started a church
with I think this guy's my cousin or something. Anyways,
started church my parents getting like an altercation with this guy.
He bans them from the church that they've started. They
put in a lot of time. They were very upset.
(48:07):
But like that guy closed on the church, found out
he was doing some fraud through the church, and then
married another woman. He's still with his wife, married with
a woman and stole her four to one k bag man.
What yeah, that's quick within like three years. Yeah. I
always had a bad guy about that guy, right, yeah,
(48:28):
but you got it. And like the thing that bothered
me the most is like, you call my dad and
said that his dad was a way better man than
my dad could ever be. Like my grandpa was a
way better. But I'm like, dude, my grandpa had like
four wives, always was drinking and smoking, died on the
golf course because he was like not in good health.
He had a heart attack. That's why not golf.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
What's so weird? Just a weird thing to say this.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
I know.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
I was like, dude, that guy was not it. And
my dad's actually like turning his life around, helping He
like goes visits like like anyone. Yeah, and like he's
visiting kids at what's the what's the juvie prison?
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Jevy.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
Oh it it goes to the juvi and like precis kids,
like he's actually doing stuff in the community.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Then yeah, guy, yeah, sometimes people need to mind their
own businesses or do a little bit of investigative work
because it's it's clear through these stories that some people
just don't not investigate the claims that they have.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
But we need to give them a walk through and
how to.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Yeah, we're like, all right, these are the steps to
investigate a crime and or a claim.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
Yes, or an affair.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Misinformation spreads like a wildfire, but you know what else
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