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00:12 r/whatdoido - [7] I got someone fired, and I feel like I should talk to her.
23:45 r/BestofRedditorUpdates - I'm (27f) a teacher, and my principal (40sM) asked me out. I feel very upset and don't know what to do
37:19 r/okstorytime - Teacher Time-out: being a teacher is already hard enough without coworker drama.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is Sam, this is John, your og Okay
story Time podcast hosts, and we got some delicious, juicy
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with a word from our sponsors. My manager mistreated me,
so I got her fired. Ooo.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
How do you like that?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Get smoked? Dork I twenty six, female, moved away from
home to start a new job a year ago. Two
months ago, my boss assigned me to stay for two
weeks in my home city for a couple of big projects.
As the office there just opened, I was greeted by
one of the managers, Charlotte. By the way, this comes
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Time still brought it.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I'm Dakota, I'm Angie, I'm Carly, and we are here
to give you good advice.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Goofy, But we don't have all the answers. We really
know what we would do, so if you would do
something different, let us know in the comments. And op says.
Female was pretty easy to work with and easy to
get along with. In our first project, we organized a
work event together, and she went out of her way
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to introduce me to people around the office and made
sure I didn't feel left out. After a successful event,
she invited me out for drinks in a nearby bar
with her teammate. Nothing much happened at the time. The
three of us talked a lot, and Charlotte made sure
I was comfortable with the place, even suggesting we find
another place when she saw I was getting overwhelmed with
the loud music. When it was time to go home,
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she messaged me on our work chat to check if
I was able to go home safely. After that, Charlotte
and I became friends. We didn't have much interaction in
the next few days since we worked in different departments,
just a friendly high and small talk whenever we would
run into each other. A few days later, Charlotte and
I had another project together, another short event that we
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were organizing. The event went smoothly. After we'd clocked out,
Charlotte asked if I'd be down to have dinner with
her before we both go home. I didn't mind grabbing
a bike and I didn't have other plans, so I said, Eh,
why not? Why now I'm gonna go get a little
dinner with Charlie.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
No big deal, We're just getting dinner.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Is she okay? So? Is what is Charlotte gonna be?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Like?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I love you, and I think she's gonna make close marriage.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
She's just gonna jump straight to it, get him a
shiny diamond ring, and.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
She's gonna go straight to you need to marry me. Yep.
I will be at your wife.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
She's gonna skip the whole courting phase, and then they're
gonna have children together.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
You are going to meet my parents tomorrow, yep, and
they will marry us. Charlotte, what happened to your voice?
We're talking like that. Charlotte's scaring me, like I ate
too fast. So she took me to a nearby diner
that she liked. While walking, Charlotte and I kept the
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conversation flowing, just anything and everything we could think about.
Then I noticed Charlotte casually grabbing my arm and holding
my hand while walking. At first, I was like five
question marks, because I'm not the type for physical contact,
especially when I'm not particularly close with the person. When
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we sat down at our table, Charlotte seemed a lot
more touchy, bro, So you were like five question marks.
But like silently, you were just like, as she holds
my hand, just yeah, maybe like pull your hand away
and say that's kind of funny.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, Bro doesn't know that this is a date and
agree to a date. He's just now finding out that
this might be more than just dinner.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Why don't you want to hold my hand? I am
your wife. Charlotte was randomly holding my hand or touching
my arm while talking. Honestly, it was getting uncomfortable, but
I brushed it aside because one, she's still a manager
and out ranks me, so I still have to be
mindful what I stay or do, and two I was
probably just overthinking it. Bro shut up.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, I forgot that she was his boss. That definitely
changes the situation.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
You are my superior.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, no, wonder he was so oblivious thinking that it
was not a date.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Makes sense.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
When I got home, all I could think about that
dinner was that was weird. But again I tried to
brush it off, thinking it's just her being friendly and
comfortable with me. The next day, though, was the one
that made everything spiral out of control. I was stuck
in my office for the entire day as I had
a lot to finish. It was a rough day for
me anyway. I clocked out and wanted to go home
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asap to sleep off this particularly bad day at work.
But as soon as I got out of our building,
I ran into Charlotte and two other managers, Hank and Alden.
They cornered me and insisted I go with them for drinks.
Felt like I couldn't say no to them since the
three of them are literally managers versus just me. Yes,
I have problems saying no to people in authority. We
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went to the bar that Charlotte first took me to
after our first event. I didn't feel like drinking at
the time, so I ordered soda, but Hank and Alden
insisted that I have a few glasses. Bro that your
manager suck. I'm sorry. Hank and Alden were pretty much
grilling me with personal questions, trying to get to know me,
but in an intense way. They asked me if I
was single or in a relationship. After I said I
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wasn't with anyone at the moment, they kept bombarding me
with more personal questions, like what kind of guys I
was into, and who among the company's leaders and executive
were my closest type of guys jokes on them because
I wasn't even into guys. But that's definitely not a
fact that I wanted to tell them. I mean, I'm
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not a closeted lover of women. I'm already out to
my family, but it wasn't a topic I liked to
talk about at work or with people I just met. Anyway,
I was stressing out because Hank and all didn't manage
to figure out I wasn't into guys, and I didn't
know how else to answer their questions without outing myself.
And while all that was going on, Charlotte was a
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totally different problem. While also joining in the conversation, she
was drinking a lot more than us and got wasted first.
And while joining in the conversation she got a lot
more touchy than last time. She still grabbed my arm
or held my hand. There was even one point where
she was trying to talk over me and she grabbed
me by the chin so I would face her.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
This is all so insane. HR, HR, HR, you need
to go.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
She gotta go to HR, And that's what HR sounds like.
I And yeah, you gotta kind of go, get get
that dog in you and go to HR. And be like,
you know, my managers are literal out of control.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Out of control, all three of them.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
The girls making moves on OPI, and then the guys
are asking way too many personal relationship questions.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It's all bad.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, it's just really weird.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
It's all bad.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Once she grabbed my chin, I definitely just wanted to
go home and cry because I felt so uncomfortable and
overwhelmed with the three of them, not to mention, it
was so draining trying to keep up with smiling and
making it look like I was having a nice time
with them. I hope you go to therapy of some
kind and get it addressed, because you know, you can
say no to these people, and like, I know you
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said you have problems saying no to authority, but it's
like it's good to be aware of that and then
like take steps to you know, work on it, because
you could have just been like, no, I'm not really
gonna go out. I just want to go home. I've
had a long day.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
The situation they no, you have to come out, and
you go no, I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Maybe I'll get you next time, Yeah, I mean, short
of them restraining you and putting you in a car,
which would I think be a bigger problem in and
of itself.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, because we understand that, like it's it's the pressure
and stuff, you know that, it's like, that's such an
uncomfortable situation that you're in. But but yeah, I feel
like therapy could definitely help push past that uncomfortability.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Sorry, I just had a thought that wasn't that wasn't funny,
But I just thought, if you ever really need to
get out of it, just tell me of diarrhea. Ha.
No one ever is going to push someone with diarrhea
to hang out.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, just like so sorry, I would love to, but
I'm literally about to poo my pants and it's about
to get real stinky up in here.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, no, I have I have diarrhea.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, I straight up I'm gonna pull my pants.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I would love to hang out, but I have diary.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Suddenly, your hand on my chin makes me really have
to pooh my pants. I better not so it doesn't
get stinky in the taste of your drinks.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I can't trust anything, right, and neither should you. It
was getting pretty late and they could see that I
was getting wasted and was starting to doze off. They
insisted that they take me home, since Hank had a
car and he was dropping off Charlotte to her place
as well. I still took the offer, and thank god
I did, because as soon as I stood up, I
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could barely stand and walk in a straight line. Hank
parked his car a little bit from the bar, so
we had to walk for a few minutes. While walking,
Charlotte was also wasted and could barely walk. I don't
know how messed up she was, but it was enough
that she put her arm around me and pulled me
closer to her. Let me tell you that the panic
sobered me up pretty fast. And I say panic because
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overwhelmed and uncomfortable is an understatement to how I was
feeling already. To cut the story short, Charlotte was just
as touchy for the remainder of my stay in that office.
Not enough to call it spicy intimidation or you know,
something that could be prosecuted, but definitely made me feel
uncomfortable around her. As soon as I got back, I
reported what happened to my manager, who then reported it
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to h R. Yay another great way. I mean, sure,
you guys were both a little messed up, but you know,
Charlotte's pulling you close. Another great way is just do
And then they're like, oh, actually I don't. I think
I'll stay away a little bit. You just gotta hit
them with that one.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I wouldn't do that because you're gonna smell my poo
in my pants.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Don't get too close.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
You got exact candor, and it's like, I wouldn't do that.
You're gonna smell the pool in my pants. I got diarrhea.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
You're gonna get stick in your in your bubble, in
your personal bubble.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Is so before anyone asks Charlotte isn't into girls? Yeah? Yeah,
did you read your story? You typed it? You read it.
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Your gatar knows better than that.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Am At least she mentioned having a boyfriend in the past.
She trying to make you her boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Girl.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You're about to be her boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
You could be your girlfriend boyfriend anyway. Charlotte gets suspended
for a month and HR conducted an investigation. I'm in therapy,
let's go.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
We did it. We did it.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Oh so far?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Okay, and just a few days ago. HR's final decision
was to fire Charlotte and put Hank and Alden in
a tight ep. What's a PIP performance improvement plan? Nice?
Even though I'm in therapy, I still feel so much guilt.
Oh I feel like this was all partly my fault. Yeah,
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oh Pee? How dare you exist?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
How dare you exist and work for terrible people?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah? If you weren't so hot and cool, people wouldn't
be so into you.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah? How dare you pull your pants?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
This is all your fault for not having diarrhea.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I could have just kept quiet. Maybe I was overthinking
all that. I should have just sucked it up and
moved on. No, they literally fired her for good reason. Yeah. No,
you're good. You did a good thing. You did the
right thing.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Hopefully, therapy, can you teach you that?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I hope so. I feel like if I had just
been tougher and stronger, I could have just let it go.
I could have talked to Charlotte that what she did
made me uncomfortable, and we could just set a lip
between us. I could have just stayed quiet so no
one gets hurt or fired. No, that would have just
hurt you, and she would have been weird with you,
and then you would have probably been ostracized and made
even more uncomfortable in different ways. A few days ago,
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I stumbled upon Charlotte's Instagram account. I didn't go through
her account, but I did take a screenshot of it
because a part of me really wants to reach out
and tell her I'm sorry. Don't do that. You shouldn't
be sorry. You have nothing to be sorry for.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
She was pestering you. She was legally he.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Was illegally pestering you legally a weak press environment. She
was really pestering me.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I'm calling Egle pest mint.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I'm calling the illegal testament of the water. He's funny, guys.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I'm gonna pull my whole UF.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I don't know what to do. Reddit, do you think
I'm in the wrong here? Should I send her a message?
Do you think it's right for me to apologize? What
can I do that won't make things worse? Update? No way,
we had no comments. I was really hoping that you
could read the Internet supporting you, because I'm sure that's
what they did. You don't need to reach out. I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah, I honestly think that would not be a good
idea for yourself and just for the whole situation, like
for your own mental being because it would remind yourself
or would support the idea that you're guilty, which is
not true. But then also just for the situation, I
feel like then now it might open some sort of
gates for her to contact you more, since you're so
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casual about it, you know. So I think it's a
badady all around.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
If anyone's gonna apologize, it should be her reaching out
to you somehow to say, hey, I'm sorry, you know
my actions caused you to feel this way and blah
blah blah, I was in the wrong. Even then, I
don't think either of you really need to have any
form of communication moving forward. Agreed, you can just silently
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wish each other the best and there's an update. So
being in therapy really helped me process what happened. Good.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Great.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I'm still continuing my sessions, which I think is going
well since I can now talk about it with people.
It's still not easy to talk about, but at least
now I've learned to know which people I can trust
who tell my story. I've shared what happened to two
of my seniors in the team, and they've been very
patient with me since the beginning. They did notice that
something was bothering me quite a lot, but not once
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did they push me to tell them what I was
going through. They told me that they were willing to
listen once I'm ready to tell them, and I finally
found the curve bridge to share my story. They were
shocked and were upset for me, but they were also
very supportive. One of them, let's call him Alex, no
real names here, told me that he had a feeling
that what happened with me had something to do with Charlotte.
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He said that it was too much of a coincidence
that I came back to our main office looking depressed
and traumatized at the same time that news spread that
Charlotte was suddenly suspended. Anyway, Alex gave me some background
about Charlotte, since they used to be in the same team.
He told me she had always been like that, touchy
and overly friendly when it came to girls and women.
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He also confirmed that Charlotte is into women.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
We notice, we know this, stop the presence.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
We've got breaking news.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Breaking news. A woman who's overly touchy to other women
is into women.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Who she literally grabbed your chin like a come over here,
a sweetheart.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
He oh, I hear it Dland.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, oh no, what is her name?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Uh? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Uh, that's probably like that Transatlantic accent. God, who is
that intress?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Hepburl of Audrey, hepban kit brand should play at it? Yeah,
how it was? She was in the aviator.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Cutly, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Surely, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
But what I do know is that fat woman is gay.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
We got it, lock it down. She dated guys in
the past, but she also dated women. She was pretty
active in the LGBTQ plus initiatives of the company, and
she doesn't deny being in the community, though Alex says
she's a lot like me, who's not very vocal about
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her spicy protivity and labels. Either she's just Italian. She
speaks with her hands. Is he gay?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Or you're Repeian? You're a pain in your pant.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Oh, another great way to get out of an offer
to go out. Sorry, I just heed my pants.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Actually have to go home in my pants.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I peed right in my pants. I love that kid,
my pants pants. Honestly, I kind of wish you didn't
tell me all of that, because it made the gravity
of her actions feel a lot heavier, and it made
me think of even more questions that I know I'll
never get the answers to. Did Charlotte try to get
me wasted on purpose? I mean probably not. Were her
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actions just friendly or did she have any malicious intent?
Was Charlotte even wasted or was she just pretending to
be that wasted. Alex mentioned drinking with her a couple
of times when they were in the same team, and
it takes so long for Charlotte to get wasted, like
they were all pretty smashed, but Charlotte was still going
strong downing shots. Also, I think it's worth mentioning that
Charlotte and I are in the same city. I found
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out that the grape Vine that the city I moved
to is her home city. But it's a big city,
so the chances of me and her running into each
other are pretty slim, though I I hope we never
see each other ever again. Against all your advice, I
did message Charlotte, why you do that? You even said it,
You quin against everyone's advice you just deliver. Reached out
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to that Charlotte, why would you do such a thing?
Just a quick and short message saying it wasn't my
intention to get her fired? And that I tried telling
HR I didn't want her fired and that I wish
her well in life. I deleted the inbox so I
wouldn't see if she'd seen the message or what. I
don't expect her to reply, though, if anything, i'd expect
her to block me. I told Alex that I sent
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Charlotte a message, but I didn't expect to reply. Alex
then asked me, is there any chance or possibility that
you like or are in love with Charlotte? Those are
his exact words, and I remember it exactly because it's
been bothering me for a while, and honestly, I don't
even know how to answer. You answer with a resounding no. Yep,
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las no, I'm sure you don't. Look when it comes
to HR, we don't get to decide once it gets
brought to HR. In the company get to decide, Oh,
Charlotte is a insane liability to have at the company.
If she's going to a ligament pestument all of our
female workers in a position of authority, So she's out. Yep,
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you know it's out of your hands. At that point.
We do have a little bit more story left. Any
final thoughts before we finish it up.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
My final thoughts are, let's get as far away from
this woman as humanly possible, and that includes digitally.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Let's get digitally far away.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I think you should block her, perhaps, and instead of
waiting for her to block you.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
That could be a good idea. I'm sorry that you're
feeling so guilty. You really didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I think that would be an important thing to tell
your therapist that's how you're feeling, and I'm sure you
have so keep.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Working on that.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
So it feels like if you were like walking across
the street, like in a crosswalk at the right time,
you get the green light, and some somebody just like
blows through a red light and swerves around you and
gets to a car accident, and you're like, this is
my fault. No, it was that it was the person
who was recklessly driving's fault that they got into an accident.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Exactly great way to put it.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Maybe I just got confused. Could this be a part
of the trauma? Did I overreact? Is there something fundamentally
wrong with me? Wait? What how did we get here?
How did we get here? We're here just because your
coworker Alex asked you if you liked Charlotte when you
I'm pretty confidently I'm sure you know you don't. Yeah,
it's definitely bothering me a lot, but I don't know
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how to tell my therapist without sounding like I need
to be institutionalized or something. Babe, You're allowed. I'm just,
I'm just. I just want to say that you're allowed
to feel blank, to think blank some but to think
and feel, not to do There are some things you
shouldn't do in direct Yeah, unless you need to get
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out of something.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
If you need to get out of something, lying about
pooping your pants not allowed to do it.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You have to commit to the bit Anyways. Anyways, as
for Hank and Alden, I heard that Hank is under
strict observance because HR reserviced a previous complaint against him,
and Alden has been keeping a low profile since then.
That's pretty much all from me. I'm still continuing my therapy,
and it's been a pretty bloody fight trying to get
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over the trauma and guilt and whatever else I've been
going through that I can't name. I hope I can
learn to feel safe again, because it's definitely exhausting mentally
and emotionally. And that is the end of that story. Yeah,
I think maybe be more honest with your therapist. It
sounds like you maybe are keeping some stuff close too
close to the vest.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Which is understandable because even like sometimes especially if you're
a new to therapy, you're new to a therapist or
new to talking about a situation, you me uncomfortable even
talking to your therapist about certain things.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
So hopefully you.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Can get past that and uh, you know, remind yourself
that the therapist is a safe space. This is like
exactly where you should be talking about it, where you're
welcome to talk about it. I'm really hoping that those
questions at the end were just her like deepest fears,
and maybe she doesn't totally believe that she deserves to
be in a mental institution or something like. I feel
like we've gotten some stories where it's like, Okay, clearly
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OPI is not in the wrong, but then they still
get the question of like am I the a hole?
So I feel like what I'm hoping anyway is that
she was just kind of adding those questions in to
get some sort of feedback. But maybe she doesn't like
not asking those questions because she genuinely believes that that
is the case.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
You know, I certainly would hope so.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
But good luck to you, OPI. I think it's great
that you're in therapy. That's like the best thing that
you could do in this situation. And I'm so glad
that those bosses are getting what's coming to them, and
I'm glad that you reported it. I feel like maybe
some of this guilt is because they're losing their jobs,
but you definitely are not responsible for that, and I'm
I think it was a very smart thing to report that.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I think that's probably a very common thing.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
People don't want to report it because they don't want
to be responsible for someone losing their job. So yeah,
to anyone out there, just report it. If it's not
a big deal, then that will come out in the wash.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
But if it is, then I will also be revealed
in the investigation. So just do it.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, And if they fired her, I doubt this was
the first time this has happened. But also, dude, grabbing
your chin at dinner so that you turn your head
to her is yeah wild.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, if you were like so uncomfortable to the fact
that you like left and cried after that, are you
into the bathroom, cried or wanted to cry or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I think trust that feeling.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
That's not just you being dramatic or something that's like
your initial subconscious reaction to it, like physical reaction too.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
So trust yourself. You are good. They are bad. But
that's the endlass story.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
We've got another one coming right up. My principal asked
me out.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
He was tuned in to a teacher.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
For the love of God, I twenty seven female all
school teacher.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Thank God.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Last year we got a new principal forties male in
our school who is very unpopular amongst the teachers. He
has been very critical in all his evaluations and shared
some unkind words with our teachers when he has had
a criticism. By the way, this comes from it, principal
asked me out, And if you want to submit your
own stories, go to the ours lash okay, storytime, separate
it and I'm Angie.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I'm Dakota, I'm Carly, and we're here to give good advice.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Goofy.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
But we don't have all the answers. We just know
what we would do in the situation.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
So let us know what you.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Would do in the comments.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
So Opie says, I, on the other hand, have received
glowing evaluations as a teacher under every observation. I have
yet to hear mean or harsh criticisms from him, and
I even got a lot of new things for my
classroom this year that no other teacher got.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I'm really upset and feeling like crap.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I thought he appreciated me and had respect for me
as a teacher. I really did.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
But after school today I went to his office to
ask him about a semester exam for a particular student.
After we discussed the student, he got up and shut
the door and sat in the seat beside me. I
got a pit in my stomach because I thought I
was being disciplined or something I did wrong. He then
said that he had heard me saying that I get
together with friends on the weekends to play cards. He
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asked if I'd ever like to get together just the
two of us and play cards at his house.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Like, Hey, I hear'd you like to hang out and
play cards? Why don't we go play solitaire? Too? Right?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Okay, wait, Carly, Carly has evidence of Dakota.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Wouldn't put this in the discord.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Evidence of Dakota abusing this mic that is in my hands. Okay.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
He was very clear he did not mean it as
a date because he is my direct supervisor, and that
he meant it as just friends.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Not sure.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I believe that he just asked me not long ago
if I was making another visit soon to a state
where my ex boyfriend lives, and I told him that
I wasn't with that guy I used to visit, So no,
My face got really hot and I stammered that I
would not be interested in dating, but maybe sometime, because
I was too nervous to say no with them sitting
next to me. I have been really upset since I
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got home. I've been so stupid to actually think that
I was a great teacher. Well, you could still be
a great teacher, but just his evaluation is unreliable.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, I wouldn't hold a lot of weight to anything
this guy says about anyone.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I feel like it's all been a lie and I
just want to curl up in a ball and cry.
All of my glowing evaluations mean nothing.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Do the kids like you? That's all that really matters.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, it's like you, they're learning things, then you're good.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
I planned to go to his office before school very
early tomorrow and tell him that I thought about it
and I'm not interested and think that it would be
a bad idea to spend time together under any circumstance.
What is the best way to approach this? How do
I pick up my self esteem? And there are some comments,
but what do you think to.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Go to movie day with the students?
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Everyone to go oh miss ohpi's the best. We watched
a movie on a Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, she let us watch a movie and she left
the room. So who knows what we'll.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Get up to.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I mean, honestly, like just focused on you, you and
your lesson plan and your your students.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I think that you can like go to him and say, like, hey,
on second thought, like I don't think it would ever
be appropriate for me to go to your house one
on one to play cards. I think, you know, even
if we didn't date and it was platonic, I think
it would very much look like it was a date
and either way be very inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
So I I think that's a bad idea. You could say.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
That too, is like I know you just said it
wasn't a date to try to, like, I don't know,
appease him.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, it's just the optics. I just don't want the
optics of going to your house alone.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Or just hanging out one on one together at all,
even and then maybe you can even mention something about
like like, I appreciate the good evaluation, I just want
to double check that it is not about any sort
of personal feelings. Yeah, towards me, because I believe you
have not asked any of the other teachers the same, but.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
We do have some comments.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I'm so lost one two three, four seventy nine, says
responding to the idea that all my glowing evaluations mean nothing.
Just because he likes you doesn't mean that you aren't
a good teacher and that your work is not excellent.
Don't let him have such power over yourself. Do you
love your students? Do you do your best to give
them a good education? Do they get along with you?
Focus on that, not on him. Exactly what you were saying,
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Opie says. My students brighten each and every day. For me,
I try to make the subject as interesting as possible,
and I'm excited to come to school each day. I
love each of my colleagues as well. They always ask
me why I'm in such a good mood. I take
the time to chat with them and see them as
often as possible. I have been at the school two
years longer than this man. Prime's Ghost says. My wife
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is an elementary school teacher and her principal did the
exact same thing last year. The teacher in question filed
a complaint with the teachers association and the superintendent the
district took it super seriously, and the principle was fired
and replaced before the end of the school year. You
should file a grievance. The principal has a lot of
power over the teachers in a school, and I can't
think of a way to look at as a situation
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like this without there being a serious problem. That's honestly,
I didn't even think about that that you should just
report the teacher, because then you can also mention like,
I don't know if it's related, but like everyone else
is getting terrible reviews and I've gotten glowing reviews, and
personally I think that all the other teachers are.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Very good, so you could certainly do that.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah, Opie says, I feel like I'm in a sticky
situation because he made it clear in telling me that
he was not interested in dating, but just hanging out alone, right, Uh,
what should I say to him? On the other hand,
I do wonder if this could be a blessing in
disguise for all of my teacher friends.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
They are so unhappy. I hate to see them miserable
at work.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
And there is an update, But yeah, I feel like
that would reporting him and getting him fired with benevate
your friends, all your teacher friends.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, just make sure it stays anonymous, you know.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah, And I honestly like, I feel like the fact
that he said he's not interested in dating has nothing
to do with it at all. The fact that he
asked to hang out one on one in his house
is not a professional thing to do at all.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, unless you were like already like besties with that guy,
which you're not.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Which you're not. We got to start in like group
settings first, at the very least.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, he asked you about the group card games. Instead
of being like, guy, come, he was like, yeah, do
you want to have your own group card game at
my house? Except we're the only people in the group. Yeah,
you're playing Solitaire exactly.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
It's so weird. But we do have an update.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Most hated man in the district. One thing I noticed
in the original post is that many replies said to
contact HR immediately. Those comments were pretty out of touch
with my actual small school system. In a tiny community,
the chain of command goes from principal then directly to
superintendent of schools. Also, that means that transferring to another
school in the district would be out of the question.
I thought comments telling me to leave or to transfer,
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we're taking it a bit too far. I adore the
school and I have more self respects than to just
leave an uncomfortable situation. I received so much encouragement from
others in my original post. The next day after I
wrote the post, I left very early for school. I
arrived before any other teachers were there, and only mister
s in his office. I left a recorder in my pocket,
legal in my state, and walked into his office to
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ask if I could speak with him briefly with a
recorder on. I told him I was very uncomfortable with
being asked to spend time with you at your home alone.
He simply said okay, and I left pretty uneventful, but
I was worried that he would deny it happened when
I reported him, so I wanted to make sure I
had something on tape, and you should still keep that
tape even if he didn't deny it, because he could
still deny it to others later. So in regards to
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the resolution, I gave a written statement to my superintendent
of schools about the incident. The school system is tiny,
about six hundred students from p to twelve, so they
don't have an HR and it's not unusual to go
directly from principle to a superintendent, no middleman. I won't
go too much into the discussion, but we came into
a mutual agreement that it towed the line. He agreed
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to my own suggestion that I should come to him
as soon as anything else happens. My main concern was
that I would be treated differently after turning him down.
This actually did happen, which I will get to in.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
A moment, very much to be expected.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah, that surprised.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I would have pressed him a little bit more in
that recording. I would have been like, I was very
uncomfortable when you did that, And then he goes okay,
and then you go are you sure that you didn't
have any other motives? Like are you sure you know bah.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, I just want to make it clear that you
understand that that looks exactly what you were denying like.
It looks like you want to date me, right, that
would be a date essentially. However, I had an unexpected
turn of events in January and ended up putting in
my resignation late February. Oh wow, I applied for a
position closer to my hometown and have now moved back
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home for personal unrelated reasons an illness in the family.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Oh I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
So I'm actually not in that school anymore, but I
miss it very much and I hope to go back someday.
Once I had put in my resolution, nothing mister s
did affected me anymore. He never made another passage and
stopped talking to me completely. In fact, he stopped talking
to me at all.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
It was like I didn't exist.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
He began ignoring my discipline, and I didn't even care
since I was leaving in May.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
After the two years of glowing reviews from him.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
At the end of the year, he tore me apart
in my evaluation despite having only been inside my classroom
once that year.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I didn't care at all.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
That's exactly what I'm talking about. It's like, how can
like a lot of times. Yeah, they're not even in
touch with what's going on. Why does that matter?
Speaker 3 (33:22):
I would only worry that like that would come up
if you're trying to get future jobs or something. But
I think with your information in your recording and your
past evaluations, the situation becomes pretty clear that it was
all feelings based and not He's like one of the
middle schools's just.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Like hmm, oh, peace me.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
He's such an ugly little witch.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Oh he is so mean loser. She doesn't have a
crush on Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I don't even like her anyway. You believes she thought
it was a dad. I didn't even like her. She
ugly and boring. It a gross ee knows.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
She's so stupid. You know I'm the smartest boy in town.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, exactly, She's probably are you stupid to know.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
She likes me.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
At the end of the year, the superintendent asked me
to reconsider staying. He told me how much he admired
the hard work I put into teaching, and he felt
that they wouldn't find a quality foreign language teacher to
replace me in that small district. I wanted to stay,
but again I was moving for personal reasons and could not.
The goodbyes were very hard, and there is a little
bit more to this story.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Do you have any final thoughts?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
But Kenny's be fired totally, Honey, needs to be fired totally.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
He's weaponizing his performance reviews. Yeah, he needs to be
not in a position of authority.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, he's like not doing his job.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
He's like filling out these evaluations and stuff, but they're
not actual evaluations. They're just like diary entries. And then
that's it, and he's asking out his coworkers.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Just a perfect example of bureaucracy at its worst. Yep,
you know, the bureaucracy of the school system, the school administration,
just a bunch of inept p failing upwards most of
the time. Sometimes you get good ones and that's nice,
but wow, bureaucracies are usually filled with incompetent folks.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Just like this one. There is a little bit more
to the story, Sam.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Here, we're gonna get back to the stories. But here's
three of minutes.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Bads from our sponsors, and now the cherry on top.
The superintendent had been quietly gathering reports and complaints about
the mister S's performance from all of the unhappy teachers.
He met with him before the school year began to
have a meeting about changes and improvements, and he wanted
to see happen, and mister s just quit on the
spot five days before the school year began.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
For teachers. Oh my gosh, that's crazy. There he goes
trash to hisself.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Out like a toot in the wind Yep.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Wow, he really left the school high and dry.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
They have not found a replacement principle and are making
it work with the superintendent doubling as his job and
select staff members stepping in to cover other duties. So
all in all, he is now the most hated man
in the school districts and I don't have to be
there among the madness this year. The superintendent has also
emailed me recently to let me know that I'm welcome
to come back to the district anytime.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
And that's so lovely, that's so wonderful.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah, dude, you're the best, and he's the worst.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
He's the worst. And it all worked out well.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
He quit, Yeah, he did. I wish he would have
got fired, fired, but but then he.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Would have gone like severance or something. So I'm chill
with him quitting.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
And then how is he gonna like explain that to
his future jobs in his job interviews, it's like, why
did you leave your last position? Yeah, there really stinky
mean to me, and so I quit because it would
be like.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
There was like a foreign language teacher who was just
so obsessed with me that it was making my job
impossible to do without you know, distraction and yeah, diversion,
and they were you know, it's a whole thing. I
don't really want to get into it, you know, because
those people always do that. Yeah, like they they didn't
get to actually have their fantasy like come true. So
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like now in the future when they're like replaying in
their head, they're gonna be like, no, no, no, it
wasn't me who was weird.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Yeah, they don't even know how to tell the story
because they are so in denial.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
But that is the end of that story.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
We've got another one coming right up.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
My co teacher became emotionally obsessed with me.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
That sounds dangerous.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I thirty two female, m a second year high school
teacher and part of a team with two other teachers,
let's call them Jill twenty nine female and Hannah forty
one female. I won't specify our subject in case they're
on Reddit, as the situation is already messy enough. By
the way, this comes from use a difficult funny three
to ZHO two And if you want to submit your
own stories, go to the r slash Showcase story Time.
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Sure it, I'm Dakota, I'm Angie, I'm Carly, and we're
here to give you good advice Goofily, But we don't
have all the answers. We only know what we would do,
so if you would do something different, let us know
in the comments. Ohp says I started mid year last
school year, which, if you've ever taught, is an incredibly
stressful experience, made even harder by the fact that it
was my first time teaching in public school. From the start,
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I got off on the wrong foot with Hannah. I
don't know if she felt threatened by me or was
just wary of newcomers, but she made it clear she
had a problem with me before even getting to know me.
For context, Hannah did some pretty petty things like telling
my students I didn't know how to teach my subject
and even spreading a rumor that I pop pills because
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she once saw me take my prescribed medication during my
off period. I wasn't even thinking about it at the time,
why would I, But her comments, along with other petty behavior,
eventually got back to me. That's actually insane. Yeah. Can
you imagine suggesting that was just like saying that to students? Yeah,
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be like yeah, missus op pill popper, strange thing. Yeah.
Since I'm a direct person, I confronted her. I made
it clear that if I heard her speaking negatively about
me again, she was going to have a problem. And honestly,
after that, she backed off and we're actually cool now. Ironically,
though this story is about Jill. At first, Jill was
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warm and welcoming. We bonded quickly, probably too quickly, forming
what I now recognize as a trauma bonded friendship. I
was grateful to have a friend when I was struggling
to find my footing, especially with Hannah actively trying to
sabotage me in that time. We shared a lot. I'm
naturally an open person. I'll tell you anything, and I
don't shy away from discussing my past, which includes childhood trauma,
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serious medical issues, and loss. I've been in and out
of therapy my whole adult life, and was just as
open with Jill as I would be with anyone. She
also shared a lot about her own traumatic past, and
we bonded over that. But there were red flags. At first,
they were small things that brushed off. She seemed to
struggle with controlling her emotions. She'd get jealous if a
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student to me for help instead of her. She'd start
the day crying, saying she hadn't slept. If I spoke
to Hannah about work related things, she'd feel excluded. I
was patient and reassuring at first, thinking she just suffered
from anxiety and self consciousness. Because I could see she
was struggling. I shared my psychiatrist's information, suggested medication might
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help since it had helped me, and even invited her
to church. She accepted all of this willingly, but as
time went on, her behavior escalated. One major red flag
was when she told me she had no friends at
all outside of me. You just got there, though, hmm.
I was blunt with her. I told her that wasn't
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healthy and that she needed to put herself out there.
I even expressed that it concerned me because I couldn't
be someone's everything. I'm a wife and mother. And she
still lives at home with her parents. We were at
very different stages in life, but she quickly started calling
me her best friend. I made sure to clarify that
while I have a solid group of longtime best friends,
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I was always open to new friendships. But that didn't
seem to deter her. By the end of last year
and through summer, I was still her cheerleader. We cried together,
laughed together, and even spent time outside of work, but
I started feeling emotionally drained. Her constant anxiety and stress
were triggering my own. When the new school year started,
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she was worse than ever. She wasn't sleeping, constantly crying,
and seemed angry all the time. I found out she
had met someone online over the summer and it wasn't
working out. You wanted to talk about it constantly. Every
conversation for weeks revolved around it. I tried to be patient,
but eventually I told her I was done discussing it.
I had given all the advice I could. She needed
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to move on. At this point, she had started medication
from the psychiatrist I recommended, but wasn't seeing a therapist.
I told her plainly, I'm in a season of my
life where I need to be equally yoked in friendships,
equally jacked, equally staff goop dup my friendships to be shreded.
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I believe she is referring to the olden use of
the word yoked, more like a yoke on, like an
ox equally yoked. I think it's like we're working equally.
We're all wearing the same pair of pants. I don't know.
I'm not a farmer.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Where's good old etymology Riley?
Speaker 1 (42:23):
I know he wasn't a farmer either, but he had goats. Sure, Ope,
he continues. That might sound selfish, but I need people
who can pour into me the way I pour into them.
I reminded her that I wasn't her mentor big sister
or a therapist. I could be her friend, but that
was it. This led to our first real confrontation. Things
got awkward, but we eventually settled back into a routine.
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Though I was pulling back, I was emotionally exhausted. As
I distanced myself, she became more reactive and she'd tell
me I was being cold or aggressive. Another big moment
happened when I finally told her some of the behaviors
that made me uncomfortable. I know I have my own
issues and I can be blunt, but I also have
great friends and former co workers who I still have
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strong relationships with. Sometime, spending forty hours a week with
someone just creates friction. One time, she told me she
wasn't sleeping because of demonic dreams. Since we had already
shared religious experiences, I suggested she see a priest or
someone who could help. In hindsight, I understand why she
took offense, but I genuinely wasn't trying to be insulting.
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Then came the late night texts. She would send me
long emotional messages in the middle of the night about
how I had hurt her feelings. The first time, I
firmly told her not to do that again. It wasn't
okay to drop triggering messages on me before we had
to work together the next day, but she kept doing it.
I put the lego in front of you because I
block you. Yeah, well, I guess those are bricks not blocks.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Get your lego knowledge right. I'm telling Keon, gonna tell
Kets for this show.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
But I did kind of wonder if this girl would
like be an ear for Ope's problems. But it really
does sound like she's just complaining to OPI and not
really being there for op. Ohp, he's just being there
for her, which I mean, OP kind of confirmed, I guess.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
With like the equal yoke stuff.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
When it comes to feelings, A lot of times, you know,
if someone says something and it hurts someone else's feelings,
that is in the wrong.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
That's wrong. You shouldn't hurt someone's feelings.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
This situation feels like, you know, your feelings probably got hurt.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Not my fault.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
I can't really control your feelings. I was right in
what I was saying. I believe in what I was saying.
I think I was going about it in a good way.
I think it's good that I'm being honest.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
It's just a coincidence, I guess, or it's just your
issue that your feelings got hurt in the situation.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Hey, y'all, it's John Ogi host here. We're gonna get
back to the stories, but here's a quick three minute
break from as for more sponsors. OPI continues. It all
built up until she sent another li night message and
I snapped. I talked to my husband and friends and
they all told me this person seemed emotionally unwell and
that I needed to cut ties. So I did. I
texted her Jill, I'm done. I can't keep doing this.
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But a few days later she came to my room
wanting to talk. She seemed genuinely self reflective, and we
both agreed to move forward. But things were never quite
the same. It was still tense and with occasional outbursts
from her. I was trying to be patient, especially since
she was now dealing with a serious family illness. And
then yesterday happened. After our boss left. She accused me
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of taking credit for something she did. I was honestly
confused because it was such a trivial thing, something we
had all worked on as a team, and I wasn't
nice about it. I snapped sorry in a rude tone
and walked away. I was just done. Then today everything exploded.
A student asked me for something and I said no.
They responded, I'll just go ask Jill. I half joking,
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we said, go ahead, she's a pushover. She'll probably give
it to you. Ha ha. I didn't mean it maliciously,
but I shouldn't have said it. Well. The student ran
to her and told her. He stormed into my room,
yelling at me in front of the student that I
was rude and shouldn't call her a pushover. I was
still caught off guard that I started shaking and had
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to sit down. Who PTSD triggers. She stormed out, and
when the bell rang for lunch, she came back to
tell me something I'm related. I said, Hey, we need
to talk about what just happened. You can't run into
my room yelling like that. You didn't even give me
a chance to explain. That's when she fully unloaded every
ounce of pent up resentment. She called me mean, accused
me of taking credit for things all the time, and
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finally yelled, you're mean.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
I don't like you.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
I don't like you. I just don't like you.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
I'm sorry, she yelled, I don't like you. I don't
like you. I don't like you.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
She put her fingers in her ears and said, I
don't like you. I to like him.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
That's crazy. She's an adult.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Why is she first well, yelling in the workplace, second
of all, yelling that at all?
Speaker 2 (47:04):
That is so insane, sounds so mature.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Yeah, I would just be like, are you sure you
don't like me? Oh?
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Really?
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Are you sure? You don't like me. You said I
was your best team.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Yeah, you said I was your only friend. Actually you're
not my only friend. Definitely not my best team.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
She then ran back into her room. I just sat there,
completely drained. I cried through lunch, tried to hold it
together for the rest of the day, but broke down
again during my last period. I'm so exhausted. I don't
even know what to do anymore. My husband thinks I
should just go tell our boss, but I feel like
I'm just as culpable. I know if I do that,
I will just be spitting in our grave. However, I
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don't know if that's the wisest thing to do to
protect myself. It's just all really unfortunate, and I feel
a lot of it, most of it on her part,
is just her being constantly triggered and reacting to those feelings.
And that's the end of that story. And you can
say that to your boss. Hey, go, Look, I just
don't think me and Jill are gonna work well together
because she's got a lot of emotional stuff she's going
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through and I'm not equipped to be there for her
in that capacity, and it feels like she is putting
me in a place of obligation to where if I
can't show up for her in that way, I'm now
a villainy. I already gave her a psychiatrist. Yeah, and
now she you know whatever, Like things are getting bad
between us. We need some sort of degree of separation.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Totally, totally, motally, totally totally. That is the end of
the story.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Is that is the end of that story? End?
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Do you have some comments?
Speaker 4 (48:36):
Comments are from the video my best friend kicked me
out of her wedding posted on August twenty second, twenty
five tld. Opie's friend Charlotte ironically.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Had no way. Yeah, another one.
Speaker 4 (48:50):
Charlotte asked her to wear a white dress to her wedding,
even picking it out herself. At the wedding, Charlotte screamed
at op for wearing white and punted her out, saying
it was a friendship test. When OPI threatened to expose
the truth, Charlotte's husband tried to hit on her. As
an apology, OPI posted proof on Facebook showing that Charlotte
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set her up on purpose, and now everyone knows. The
bride wore blue while tricking her friend into wearing white
just to humiliate her. And I do vaguely remember this story.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
I don't remember that, but I gotta say, you never
wear white to the wedding. That was a trap. Should
have known that was a trap. You go, I don't
care if you want me to wear this white dress.
I'm not gonna wear it's your wedding. You're crazy, that's crazy.
But then she'd be like, you passed.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
But the fact that she's doing some sort of tests
on her friend at all is insane.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
Comment to one Opie nineteen ninety seven. It sounds like
the bride just wanted some kind of memorable drama at
her wedding. Opie didn't ruin the wedding, but she just
took the drama bait. Bride would have been super disappointed
if Opie didn't wear the white dress.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
Yeah right, what do you mean? She would have been
so happy. She'd have been like, oh, my best friend,
I found you now I know that you're my best
didn't wear the dress.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
It was all a test and Commenter two a mid
Moon ninety five. My cousin told all of the women
of her wedding to wear a satin dress and asked
me to see the only dress I had. It was
a big red ball gown and she was over the
moon telling.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Me to use it.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
I told her, I love you, but that is not
appropriate for the wedding.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
I will get a.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
New dress and it's not even in the color Pellette.
Good thing that I ignored her because my dress wouldn't
even fit in the venue space and everyone would have
tripped over or damaged it. Most of all, I would
have been the only one out of theme.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yeah, that'd be embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (50:48):
Ali Zoo forty seven to fifty five. Anyone giving a
friendship test isn't mature enough to get married. If OPI
has any proof that Bridezilla asked her to wear that dress,
she needs to make it public. In any case, she
needs to block them all and also show literal receipts
from the two hundred and fifty dollars she gave for
the wedding. Good luck to the groom, and it to
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add nevermind they deserve each other.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
I think the groom ended up sucking too.
Speaker 5 (51:14):
I see, I see, Oh yeah, I mean the fact
that he tried to apologize by hitting on her pretty crazy.
It's like, I'm so sorry, so sorry girl for my
crazy wife.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
But like you shouldn't feel like because you're so hot.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
My wife is probably just acting like this because you're
so hot and delicious. I wish that I was marrying you.
Speaker 4 (51:34):
In last comment Sherry mulliv Thompson eighty three, eighty eight,
Uh and OPI asking about the dress negated any perceived
need for a friendship test. This person took that opportunity
to put her in a no win situation. Wearing the
dress got the offended response, and I am almost positive
that not wearing the dress would have gotten you the
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don't trust me response. There was no equal ground on
this one.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Yeah, I mean, it's crazy all round. She exposed herself
as someone you don't want to be friends with. Yeah, congrats,
you don't have to ever be friends with that lame
o again, yeap, And you can move on, you know,
onwards and.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Upwards, onwards.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
And it happens to everyone. Everyone has a friend where
they're like, this is my friend and then at some
point they go, oh, no it's not.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
But that is the end of that story and episode.
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Get smoked? Dork I twenty six, female, moved away from
home to start a new job a year ago. Two
months ago, my boss assigned me to stay for two
weeks in my home city for a couple of big projects.
As the office there just opened, I was greeted by
one of the managers, Charlotte. By the way, this comes
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I'm Dakota, I'm Angie, I'm Carly, and we are here
to give you good advice.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Goofy, But we don't have all the answers. We really
know what we would do, so if you would do
something different, let us know in the comments. And op says.
Female was pretty easy to work with and easy to
get along with. In our first project, we organized a
work event together, and she went out of her way
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to introduce me to people around the office and made
sure I didn't feel left out. After a successful event,
she invited me out for drinks in a nearby bar
with her teammate. Nothing much happened at the time. The
three of us talked a lot, and Charlotte made sure
I was comfortable with the place, even suggesting we find
another place when she saw I was getting overwhelmed with
the loud music. When it was time to go home,
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she messaged me on our work chat to check if
I was able to go home safely. After that, Charlotte
and I became friends. We didn't have much interaction in
the next few days since we worked in different departments,
just a friendly high and small talk whenever we would
run into each other. A few days later, Charlotte and
I had another project together, another short event that we
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were organizing. The event went smoothly. After we'd clocked out,
Charlotte asked if I'd be down to have dinner with
her before we both go home. I didn't mind grabbing
a bike and I didn't have other plans, so I said, Eh,
why not? Why now I'm gonna go get a little
dinner with Charlie.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
No big deal, We're just getting dinner.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Is she okay? So? Is what is Charlotte gonna be?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Like?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I love you, and I think she's gonna make close marriage.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
She's just gonna jump straight to it, get him a
shiny diamond ring, and.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
She's gonna go straight to you need to marry me. Yep.
I will be at your wife.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
She's gonna skip the whole courting phase, and then they're
gonna have children together.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
You are going to meet my parents tomorrow, yep, and
they will marry us. Charlotte, what happened to your voice?
We're talking like that. Charlotte's scaring me, like I ate
too fast. So she took me to a nearby diner
that she liked. While walking, Charlotte and I kept the
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conversation flowing, just anything and everything we could think about.
Then I noticed Charlotte casually grabbing my arm and holding
my hand while walking. At first, I was like five
question marks, because I'm not the type for physical contact,
especially when I'm not particularly close with the person. When
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we sat down at our table, Charlotte seemed a lot
more touchy, bro, So you were like five question marks.
But like silently, you were just like, as she holds
my hand, just yeah, maybe like pull your hand away
and say that's kind of funny.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, Bro doesn't know that this is a date and
agree to a date. He's just now finding out that
this might be more than just dinner.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Why don't you want to hold my hand? I am
your wife. Charlotte was randomly holding my hand or touching
my arm while talking. Honestly, it was getting uncomfortable, but
I brushed it aside because one, she's still a manager
and out ranks me, so I still have to be
mindful what I stay or do, and two I was
probably just overthinking it. Bro shut up.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, I forgot that she was his boss. That definitely
changes the situation.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
You are my superior.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, no, wonder he was so oblivious thinking that it
was not a date.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Makes sense.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
When I got home, all I could think about that
dinner was that was weird. But again I tried to
brush it off, thinking it's just her being friendly and
comfortable with me. The next day, though, was the one
that made everything spiral out of control. I was stuck
in my office for the entire day as I had
a lot to finish. It was a rough day for
me anyway. I clocked out and wanted to go home
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asap to sleep off this particularly bad day at work.
But as soon as I got out of our building,
I ran into Charlotte and two other managers, Hank and Alden.
They cornered me and insisted I go with them for drinks.
Felt like I couldn't say no to them since the
three of them are literally managers versus just me. Yes,
I have problems saying no to people in authority. We
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went to the bar that Charlotte first took me to
after our first event. I didn't feel like drinking at
the time, so I ordered soda, but Hank and Alden
insisted that I have a few glasses. Bro that your
manager suck. I'm sorry. Hank and Alden were pretty much
grilling me with personal questions, trying to get to know me,
but in an intense way. They asked me if I
was single or in a relationship. After I said I
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wasn't with anyone at the moment, they kept bombarding me
with more personal questions, like what kind of guys I
was into, and who among the company's leaders and executive
were my closest type of guys jokes on them because
I wasn't even into guys. But that's definitely not a
fact that I wanted to tell them. I mean, I'm
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not a closeted lover of women. I'm already out to
my family, but it wasn't a topic I liked to
talk about at work or with people I just met. Anyway,
I was stressing out because Hank and all didn't manage
to figure out I wasn't into guys, and I didn't
know how else to answer their questions without outing myself.
And while all that was going on, Charlotte was a
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totally different problem. While also joining in the conversation, she
was drinking a lot more than us and got wasted first.
And while joining in the conversation she got a lot
more touchy than last time. She still grabbed my arm
or held my hand. There was even one point where
she was trying to talk over me and she grabbed
me by the chin so I would face her.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
This is all so insane. HR, HR, HR, you need
to go.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
She gotta go to HR, And that's what HR sounds like.
I And yeah, you gotta kind of go, get get
that dog in you and go to HR. And be like,
you know, my managers are literal out of control.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Out of control, all three of them.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
The girls making moves on OPI, and then the guys
are asking way too many personal relationship questions.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It's all bad.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, it's just really weird.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
It's all bad.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Once she grabbed my chin, I definitely just wanted to
go home and cry because I felt so uncomfortable and
overwhelmed with the three of them, not to mention, it
was so draining trying to keep up with smiling and
making it look like I was having a nice time
with them. I hope you go to therapy of some
kind and get it addressed, because you know, you can
say no to these people, and like, I know you
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said you have problems saying no to authority, but it's
like it's good to be aware of that and then
like take steps to you know, work on it, because
you could have just been like, no, I'm not really
gonna go out. I just want to go home. I've
had a long day.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
The situation they no, you have to come out, and
you go no, I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Maybe I'll get you next time, Yeah, I mean, short
of them restraining you and putting you in a car,
which would I think be a bigger problem in and
of itself.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, because we understand that, like it's it's the pressure
and stuff, you know that, it's like, that's such an
uncomfortable situation that you're in. But but yeah, I feel
like therapy could definitely help push past that uncomfortability.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Sorry, I just had a thought that wasn't that wasn't funny,
But I just thought, if you ever really need to
get out of it, just tell me of diarrhea. Ha.
No one ever is going to push someone with diarrhea
to hang out.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, just like so sorry, I would love to, but
I'm literally about to poo my pants and it's about
to get real stinky up in here.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, no, I have I have diarrhea.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, I straight up I'm gonna pull my pants.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I would love to hang out, but I have diary.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Suddenly, your hand on my chin makes me really have
to pooh my pants. I better not so it doesn't
get stinky in the taste of your drinks.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I can't trust anything, right, and neither should you. It
was getting pretty late and they could see that I
was getting wasted and was starting to doze off. They
insisted that they take me home, since Hank had a
car and he was dropping off Charlotte to her place
as well. I still took the offer, and thank god
I did, because as soon as I stood up, I
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could barely stand and walk in a straight line. Hank
parked his car a little bit from the bar, so
we had to walk for a few minutes. While walking,
Charlotte was also wasted and could barely walk. I don't
know how messed up she was, but it was enough
that she put her arm around me and pulled me
closer to her. Let me tell you that the panic
sobered me up pretty fast. And I say panic because
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overwhelmed and uncomfortable is an understatement to how I was
feeling already. To cut the story short, Charlotte was just
as touchy for the remainder of my stay in that office.
Not enough to call it spicy intimidation or you know,
something that could be prosecuted, but definitely made me feel
uncomfortable around her. As soon as I got back, I
reported what happened to my manager, who then reported it
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to h R. Yay another great way. I mean, sure,
you guys were both a little messed up, but you know,
Charlotte's pulling you close. Another great way is just do
And then they're like, oh, actually I don't. I think
I'll stay away a little bit. You just gotta hit
them with that one.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I wouldn't do that because you're gonna smell my poo
in my pants.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Don't get too close.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
You got exact candor, and it's like, I wouldn't do that.
You're gonna smell the pool in my pants. I got diarrhea.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
You're gonna get stick in your in your bubble, in
your personal bubble.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Is so before anyone asks Charlotte isn't into girls? Yeah? Yeah,
did you read your story? You typed it? You read it.
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Your gatar knows better than that.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Am At least she mentioned having a boyfriend in the past.
She trying to make you her boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Girl.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You're about to be her boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
You could be your girlfriend boyfriend anyway. Charlotte gets suspended
for a month and HR conducted an investigation. I'm in therapy,
let's go.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
We did it. We did it.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Oh so far?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Okay, and just a few days ago. HR's final decision
was to fire Charlotte and put Hank and Alden in
a tight ep. What's a PIP performance improvement plan? Nice?
Even though I'm in therapy, I still feel so much guilt.
Oh I feel like this was all partly my fault. Yeah,
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oh Pee? How dare you exist?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
How dare you exist and work for terrible people?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah? If you weren't so hot and cool, people wouldn't
be so into you.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah? How dare you pull your pants?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
This is all your fault for not having diarrhea.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I could have just kept quiet. Maybe I was overthinking
all that. I should have just sucked it up and
moved on. No, they literally fired her for good reason. Yeah. No,
you're good. You did a good thing. You did the
right thing.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Hopefully, therapy, can you teach you that?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I hope so. I feel like if I had just
been tougher and stronger, I could have just let it go.
I could have talked to Charlotte that what she did
made me uncomfortable, and we could just set a lip
between us. I could have just stayed quiet so no
one gets hurt or fired. No, that would have just
hurt you, and she would have been weird with you,
and then you would have probably been ostracized and made
even more uncomfortable in different ways. A few days ago,
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I stumbled upon Charlotte's Instagram account. I didn't go through
her account, but I did take a screenshot of it
because a part of me really wants to reach out
and tell her I'm sorry. Don't do that. You shouldn't
be sorry. You have nothing to be sorry for.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
She was pestering you. She was legally he.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Was illegally pestering you legally a weak press environment. She
was really pestering me.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I'm calling Egle pest mint.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I'm calling the illegal testament of the water. He's funny, guys.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I'm gonna pull my whole UF.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I don't know what to do. Reddit, do you think
I'm in the wrong here? Should I send her a message?
Do you think it's right for me to apologize? What
can I do that won't make things worse? Update? No way,
we had no comments. I was really hoping that you
could read the Internet supporting you, because I'm sure that's
what they did. You don't need to reach out. I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah, I honestly think that would not be a good
idea for yourself and just for the whole situation, like
for your own mental being because it would remind yourself
or would support the idea that you're guilty, which is
not true. But then also just for the situation, I
feel like then now it might open some sort of
gates for her to contact you more, since you're so
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casual about it, you know. So I think it's a
badady all around.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
If anyone's gonna apologize, it should be her reaching out
to you somehow to say, hey, I'm sorry, you know
my actions caused you to feel this way and blah
blah blah, I was in the wrong. Even then, I
don't think either of you really need to have any
form of communication moving forward. Agreed, you can just silently
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wish each other the best and there's an update. So
being in therapy really helped me process what happened. Good.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Great.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I'm still continuing my sessions, which I think is going
well since I can now talk about it with people.
It's still not easy to talk about, but at least
now I've learned to know which people I can trust
who tell my story. I've shared what happened to two
of my seniors in the team, and they've been very
patient with me since the beginning. They did notice that
something was bothering me quite a lot, but not once
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did they push me to tell them what I was
going through. They told me that they were willing to
listen once I'm ready to tell them, and I finally
found the curve bridge to share my story. They were
shocked and were upset for me, but they were also
very supportive. One of them, let's call him Alex, no
real names here, told me that he had a feeling
that what happened with me had something to do with Charlotte.
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He said that it was too much of a coincidence
that I came back to our main office looking depressed
and traumatized at the same time that news spread that
Charlotte was suddenly suspended. Anyway, Alex gave me some background
about Charlotte, since they used to be in the same team.
He told me she had always been like that, touchy
and overly friendly when it came to girls and women.
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He also confirmed that Charlotte is into women.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
We notice, we know this, stop the presence.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
We've got breaking news.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Breaking news. A woman who's overly touchy to other women
is into women.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Who she literally grabbed your chin like a come over here,
a sweetheart.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
He oh, I hear it Dland.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, oh no, what is her name?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Uh? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Uh, that's probably like that Transatlantic accent. God, who is
that intress?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Hepburl of Audrey, hepban kit brand should play at it? Yeah,
how it was? She was in the aviator.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Cutly, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Surely, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
But what I do know is that fat woman is gay.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
We got it, lock it down. She dated guys in
the past, but she also dated women. She was pretty
active in the LGBTQ plus initiatives of the company, and
she doesn't deny being in the community, though Alex says
she's a lot like me, who's not very vocal about
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her spicy protivity and labels. Either she's just Italian. She
speaks with her hands. Is he gay?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Or you're Repeian? You're a pain in your pant.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Oh, another great way to get out of an offer
to go out. Sorry, I just heed my pants.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Actually have to go home in my pants.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I peed right in my pants. I love that kid,
my pants pants. Honestly, I kind of wish you didn't
tell me all of that, because it made the gravity
of her actions feel a lot heavier, and it made
me think of even more questions that I know I'll
never get the answers to. Did Charlotte try to get
me wasted on purpose? I mean probably not. Were her
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actions just friendly or did she have any malicious intent?
Was Charlotte even wasted or was she just pretending to
be that wasted. Alex mentioned drinking with her a couple
of times when they were in the same team, and
it takes so long for Charlotte to get wasted, like
they were all pretty smashed, but Charlotte was still going
strong downing shots. Also, I think it's worth mentioning that
Charlotte and I are in the same city. I found
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out that the grape Vine that the city I moved
to is her home city. But it's a big city,
so the chances of me and her running into each
other are pretty slim, though I I hope we never
see each other ever again. Against all your advice, I
did message Charlotte, why you do that? You even said it,
You quin against everyone's advice you just deliver. Reached out
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to that Charlotte, why would you do such a thing?
Just a quick and short message saying it wasn't my
intention to get her fired? And that I tried telling
HR I didn't want her fired and that I wish
her well in life. I deleted the inbox so I
wouldn't see if she'd seen the message or what. I
don't expect her to reply, though, if anything, i'd expect
her to block me. I told Alex that I sent
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Charlotte a message, but I didn't expect to reply. Alex
then asked me, is there any chance or possibility that
you like or are in love with Charlotte? Those are
his exact words, and I remember it exactly because it's
been bothering me for a while, and honestly, I don't
even know how to answer. You answer with a resounding no. Yep,
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las no, I'm sure you don't. Look when it comes
to HR, we don't get to decide once it gets
brought to HR. In the company get to decide, Oh,
Charlotte is a insane liability to have at the company.
If she's going to a ligament pestument all of our
female workers in a position of authority, So she's out. Yep,
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you know it's out of your hands. At that point.
We do have a little bit more story left. Any
final thoughts before we finish it up.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
My final thoughts are, let's get as far away from
this woman as humanly possible, and that includes digitally.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Let's get digitally far away.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I think you should block her, perhaps, and instead of
waiting for her to block you.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
That could be a good idea. I'm sorry that you're
feeling so guilty. You really didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I think that would be an important thing to tell
your therapist that's how you're feeling, and I'm sure you
have so keep.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Working on that.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
So it feels like if you were like walking across
the street, like in a crosswalk at the right time,
you get the green light, and some somebody just like
blows through a red light and swerves around you and
gets to a car accident, and you're like, this is
my fault. No, it was that it was the person
who was recklessly driving's fault that they got into an accident.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Exactly great way to put it.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Maybe I just got confused. Could this be a part
of the trauma? Did I overreact? Is there something fundamentally
wrong with me? Wait? What how did we get here?
How did we get here? We're here just because your
coworker Alex asked you if you liked Charlotte when you
I'm pretty confidently I'm sure you know you don't. Yeah,
it's definitely bothering me a lot, but I don't know
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how to tell my therapist without sounding like I need
to be institutionalized or something. Babe, You're allowed. I'm just,
I'm just. I just want to say that you're allowed
to feel blank, to think blank some but to think
and feel, not to do There are some things you
shouldn't do in direct Yeah, unless you need to get
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out of something.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
If you need to get out of something, lying about
pooping your pants not allowed to do it.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You have to commit to the bit Anyways. Anyways, as
for Hank and Alden, I heard that Hank is under
strict observance because HR reserviced a previous complaint against him,
and Alden has been keeping a low profile since then.
That's pretty much all from me. I'm still continuing my therapy,
and it's been a pretty bloody fight trying to get
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over the trauma and guilt and whatever else I've been
going through that I can't name. I hope I can
learn to feel safe again, because it's definitely exhausting mentally
and emotionally. And that is the end of that story. Yeah,
I think maybe be more honest with your therapist. It
sounds like you maybe are keeping some stuff close too
close to the vest.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Which is understandable because even like sometimes especially if you're
a new to therapy, you're new to a therapist or
new to talking about a situation, you me uncomfortable even
talking to your therapist about certain things.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
So hopefully you.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Can get past that and uh, you know, remind yourself
that the therapist is a safe space. This is like
exactly where you should be talking about it, where you're
welcome to talk about it. I'm really hoping that those
questions at the end were just her like deepest fears,
and maybe she doesn't totally believe that she deserves to
be in a mental institution or something like. I feel
like we've gotten some stories where it's like, Okay, clearly
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OPI is not in the wrong, but then they still
get the question of like am I the a hole?
So I feel like what I'm hoping anyway is that
she was just kind of adding those questions in to
get some sort of feedback. But maybe she doesn't like
not asking those questions because she genuinely believes that that
is the case.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
You know, I certainly would hope so.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
But good luck to you, OPI. I think it's great
that you're in therapy. That's like the best thing that
you could do in this situation. And I'm so glad
that those bosses are getting what's coming to them, and
I'm glad that you reported it. I feel like maybe
some of this guilt is because they're losing their jobs,
but you definitely are not responsible for that, and I'm
I think it was a very smart thing to report that.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I think that's probably a very common thing.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
People don't want to report it because they don't want
to be responsible for someone losing their job. So yeah,
to anyone out there, just report it. If it's not
a big deal, then that will come out in the wash.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
But if it is, then I will also be revealed
in the investigation. So just do it.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, And if they fired her, I doubt this was
the first time this has happened. But also, dude, grabbing
your chin at dinner so that you turn your head
to her is yeah wild.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, if you were like so uncomfortable to the fact
that you like left and cried after that, are you
into the bathroom, cried or wanted to cry or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I think trust that feeling.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
That's not just you being dramatic or something that's like
your initial subconscious reaction to it, like physical reaction too.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
So trust yourself. You are good. They are bad. But
that's the endlass story.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
We've got another one coming right up. My principal asked
me out.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
He was tuned in to a teacher.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
For the love of God, I twenty seven female all
school teacher.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Thank God.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Last year we got a new principal forties male in
our school who is very unpopular amongst the teachers. He
has been very critical in all his evaluations and shared
some unkind words with our teachers when he has had
a criticism. By the way, this comes from it, principal
asked me out, And if you want to submit your
own stories, go to the ours lash okay, storytime, separate
it and I'm Angie.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I'm Dakota, I'm Carly, and we're here to give good advice.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Goofy.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
But we don't have all the answers. We just know
what we would do in the situation.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
So let us know what you.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Would do in the comments.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
So Opie says, I, on the other hand, have received
glowing evaluations as a teacher under every observation. I have
yet to hear mean or harsh criticisms from him, and
I even got a lot of new things for my
classroom this year that no other teacher got.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I'm really upset and feeling like crap.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I thought he appreciated me and had respect for me
as a teacher. I really did.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
But after school today I went to his office to
ask him about a semester exam for a particular student.
After we discussed the student, he got up and shut
the door and sat in the seat beside me. I
got a pit in my stomach because I thought I
was being disciplined or something I did wrong. He then
said that he had heard me saying that I get
together with friends on the weekends to play cards. He
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asked if I'd ever like to get together just the
two of us and play cards at his house.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Like, Hey, I hear'd you like to hang out and
play cards? Why don't we go play solitaire? Too? Right?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Okay, wait, Carly, Carly has evidence of Dakota.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Wouldn't put this in the discord.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Evidence of Dakota abusing this mic that is in my hands. Okay.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
He was very clear he did not mean it as
a date because he is my direct supervisor, and that
he meant it as just friends.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Not sure.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I believe that he just asked me not long ago
if I was making another visit soon to a state
where my ex boyfriend lives, and I told him that
I wasn't with that guy I used to visit, So no,
My face got really hot and I stammered that I
would not be interested in dating, but maybe sometime, because
I was too nervous to say no with them sitting
next to me. I have been really upset since I
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got home. I've been so stupid to actually think that
I was a great teacher. Well, you could still be
a great teacher, but just his evaluation is unreliable.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, I wouldn't hold a lot of weight to anything
this guy says about anyone.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I feel like it's all been a lie and I
just want to curl up in a ball and cry.
All of my glowing evaluations mean nothing.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Do the kids like you? That's all that really matters.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, it's like you, they're learning things, then you're good.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
I planned to go to his office before school very
early tomorrow and tell him that I thought about it
and I'm not interested and think that it would be
a bad idea to spend time together under any circumstance.
What is the best way to approach this? How do
I pick up my self esteem? And there are some comments,
but what do you think to.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Go to movie day with the students?
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Everyone to go oh miss ohpi's the best. We watched
a movie on a Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, she let us watch a movie and she left
the room. So who knows what we'll.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Get up to.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I mean, honestly, like just focused on you, you and
your lesson plan and your your students.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I think that you can like go to him and say, like, hey,
on second thought, like I don't think it would ever
be appropriate for me to go to your house one
on one to play cards. I think, you know, even
if we didn't date and it was platonic, I think
it would very much look like it was a date
and either way be very inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
So I I think that's a bad idea. You could say.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
That too, is like I know you just said it
wasn't a date to try to, like, I don't know,
appease him.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, it's just the optics. I just don't want the
optics of going to your house alone.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Or just hanging out one on one together at all,
even and then maybe you can even mention something about
like like, I appreciate the good evaluation, I just want
to double check that it is not about any sort
of personal feelings. Yeah, towards me, because I believe you
have not asked any of the other teachers the same, but.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
We do have some comments.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I'm so lost one two three, four seventy nine, says
responding to the idea that all my glowing evaluations mean nothing.
Just because he likes you doesn't mean that you aren't
a good teacher and that your work is not excellent.
Don't let him have such power over yourself. Do you
love your students? Do you do your best to give
them a good education? Do they get along with you?
Focus on that, not on him. Exactly what you were saying,
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Opie says. My students brighten each and every day. For me,
I try to make the subject as interesting as possible,
and I'm excited to come to school each day. I
love each of my colleagues as well. They always ask
me why I'm in such a good mood. I take
the time to chat with them and see them as
often as possible. I have been at the school two
years longer than this man. Prime's Ghost says. My wife
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is an elementary school teacher and her principal did the
exact same thing last year. The teacher in question filed
a complaint with the teachers association and the superintendent the
district took it super seriously, and the principle was fired
and replaced before the end of the school year. You
should file a grievance. The principal has a lot of
power over the teachers in a school, and I can't
think of a way to look at as a situation
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like this without there being a serious problem. That's honestly,
I didn't even think about that that you should just
report the teacher, because then you can also mention like,
I don't know if it's related, but like everyone else
is getting terrible reviews and I've gotten glowing reviews, and
personally I think that all the other teachers are.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Very good, so you could certainly do that.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah, Opie says, I feel like I'm in a sticky
situation because he made it clear in telling me that
he was not interested in dating, but just hanging out alone, right, Uh,
what should I say to him? On the other hand,
I do wonder if this could be a blessing in
disguise for all of my teacher friends.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
They are so unhappy. I hate to see them miserable
at work.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
And there is an update, But yeah, I feel like
that would reporting him and getting him fired with benevate
your friends, all your teacher friends.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, just make sure it stays anonymous, you know.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah, And I honestly like, I feel like the fact
that he said he's not interested in dating has nothing
to do with it at all. The fact that he
asked to hang out one on one in his house
is not a professional thing to do at all.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, unless you were like already like besties with that guy,
which you're not.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Which you're not. We got to start in like group
settings first, at the very least.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, he asked you about the group card games. Instead
of being like, guy, come, he was like, yeah, do
you want to have your own group card game at
my house? Except we're the only people in the group. Yeah,
you're playing Solitaire exactly.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
It's so weird. But we do have an update.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Most hated man in the district. One thing I noticed
in the original post is that many replies said to
contact HR immediately. Those comments were pretty out of touch
with my actual small school system. In a tiny community,
the chain of command goes from principal then directly to
superintendent of schools. Also, that means that transferring to another
school in the district would be out of the question.
I thought comments telling me to leave or to transfer,
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we're taking it a bit too far. I adore the
school and I have more self respects than to just
leave an uncomfortable situation. I received so much encouragement from
others in my original post. The next day after I
wrote the post, I left very early for school. I
arrived before any other teachers were there, and only mister
s in his office. I left a recorder in my pocket,
legal in my state, and walked into his office to
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ask if I could speak with him briefly with a
recorder on. I told him I was very uncomfortable with
being asked to spend time with you at your home alone.
He simply said okay, and I left pretty uneventful, but
I was worried that he would deny it happened when
I reported him, so I wanted to make sure I
had something on tape, and you should still keep that
tape even if he didn't deny it, because he could
still deny it to others later. So in regards to
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the resolution, I gave a written statement to my superintendent
of schools about the incident. The school system is tiny,
about six hundred students from p to twelve, so they
don't have an HR and it's not unusual to go
directly from principle to a superintendent, no middleman. I won't
go too much into the discussion, but we came into
a mutual agreement that it towed the line. He agreed
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to my own suggestion that I should come to him
as soon as anything else happens. My main concern was
that I would be treated differently after turning him down.
This actually did happen, which I will get to in.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
A moment, very much to be expected.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah, that surprised.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I would have pressed him a little bit more in
that recording. I would have been like, I was very
uncomfortable when you did that, And then he goes okay,
and then you go are you sure that you didn't
have any other motives? Like are you sure you know bah.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, I just want to make it clear that you
understand that that looks exactly what you were denying like.
It looks like you want to date me, right, that
would be a date essentially. However, I had an unexpected
turn of events in January and ended up putting in
my resignation late February. Oh wow, I applied for a
position closer to my hometown and have now moved back
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home for personal unrelated reasons an illness in the family.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Oh I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
So I'm actually not in that school anymore, but I
miss it very much and I hope to go back someday.
Once I had put in my resolution, nothing mister s
did affected me anymore. He never made another passage and
stopped talking to me completely. In fact, he stopped talking
to me at all.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
It was like I didn't exist.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
He began ignoring my discipline, and I didn't even care
since I was leaving in May.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
After the two years of glowing reviews from him.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
At the end of the year, he tore me apart
in my evaluation despite having only been inside my classroom
once that year.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I didn't care at all.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
That's exactly what I'm talking about. It's like, how can
like a lot of times. Yeah, they're not even in
touch with what's going on. Why does that matter?
Speaker 3 (33:22):
I would only worry that like that would come up
if you're trying to get future jobs or something. But
I think with your information in your recording and your
past evaluations, the situation becomes pretty clear that it was
all feelings based and not He's like one of the
middle schools's just.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Like hmm, oh, peace me.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
He's such an ugly little witch.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Oh he is so mean loser. She doesn't have a
crush on Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I don't even like her anyway. You believes she thought
it was a dad. I didn't even like her. She
ugly and boring. It a gross ee knows.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
She's so stupid. You know I'm the smartest boy in town.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, exactly, She's probably are you stupid to know.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
She likes me.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
At the end of the year, the superintendent asked me
to reconsider staying. He told me how much he admired
the hard work I put into teaching, and he felt
that they wouldn't find a quality foreign language teacher to
replace me in that small district. I wanted to stay,
but again I was moving for personal reasons and could not.
The goodbyes were very hard, and there is a little
bit more to this story.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Do you have any final thoughts?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
But Kenny's be fired totally, Honey, needs to be fired totally.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
He's weaponizing his performance reviews. Yeah, he needs to be
not in a position of authority.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, he's like not doing his job.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
He's like filling out these evaluations and stuff, but they're
not actual evaluations. They're just like diary entries. And then
that's it, and he's asking out his coworkers.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Just a perfect example of bureaucracy at its worst. Yep,
you know, the bureaucracy of the school system, the school administration,
just a bunch of inept p failing upwards most of
the time. Sometimes you get good ones and that's nice,
but wow, bureaucracies are usually filled with incompetent folks.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Just like this one. There is a little bit more
to the story, Sam.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Here, we're gonna get back to the stories. But here's
three of minutes.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Bads from our sponsors, and now the cherry on top.
The superintendent had been quietly gathering reports and complaints about
the mister S's performance from all of the unhappy teachers.
He met with him before the school year began to
have a meeting about changes and improvements, and he wanted
to see happen, and mister s just quit on the
spot five days before the school year began.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
For teachers. Oh my gosh, that's crazy. There he goes
trash to hisself.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Out like a toot in the wind Yep.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Wow, he really left the school high and dry.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
They have not found a replacement principle and are making
it work with the superintendent doubling as his job and
select staff members stepping in to cover other duties. So
all in all, he is now the most hated man
in the school districts and I don't have to be
there among the madness this year. The superintendent has also
emailed me recently to let me know that I'm welcome
to come back to the district anytime.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
And that's so lovely, that's so wonderful.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah, dude, you're the best, and he's the worst.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
He's the worst. And it all worked out well.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
He quit, Yeah, he did. I wish he would have
got fired, fired, but but then he.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Would have gone like severance or something. So I'm chill
with him quitting.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
And then how is he gonna like explain that to
his future jobs in his job interviews, it's like, why
did you leave your last position? Yeah, there really stinky
mean to me, and so I quit because it would
be like.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
There was like a foreign language teacher who was just
so obsessed with me that it was making my job
impossible to do without you know, distraction and yeah, diversion,
and they were you know, it's a whole thing. I
don't really want to get into it, you know, because
those people always do that. Yeah, like they they didn't
get to actually have their fantasy like come true. So
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like now in the future when they're like replaying in
their head, they're gonna be like, no, no, no, it
wasn't me who was weird.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Yeah, they don't even know how to tell the story
because they are so in denial.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
But that is the end of that story.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
We've got another one coming right up.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
My co teacher became emotionally obsessed with me.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
That sounds dangerous.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I thirty two female, m a second year high school
teacher and part of a team with two other teachers,
let's call them Jill twenty nine female and Hannah forty
one female. I won't specify our subject in case they're
on Reddit, as the situation is already messy enough. By
the way, this comes from use a difficult funny three
to ZHO two And if you want to submit your
own stories, go to the r slash Showcase story Time.
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Sure it, I'm Dakota, I'm Angie, I'm Carly, and we're
here to give you good advice Goofily, But we don't
have all the answers. We only know what we would do,
so if you would do something different, let us know
in the comments. Ohp says I started mid year last
school year, which, if you've ever taught, is an incredibly
stressful experience, made even harder by the fact that it
was my first time teaching in public school. From the start,
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I got off on the wrong foot with Hannah. I
don't know if she felt threatened by me or was
just wary of newcomers, but she made it clear she
had a problem with me before even getting to know me.
For context, Hannah did some pretty petty things like telling
my students I didn't know how to teach my subject
and even spreading a rumor that I pop pills because
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she once saw me take my prescribed medication during my
off period. I wasn't even thinking about it at the time,
why would I, But her comments, along with other petty behavior,
eventually got back to me. That's actually insane. Yeah. Can
you imagine suggesting that was just like saying that to students? Yeah,
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be like yeah, missus op pill popper, strange thing. Yeah.
Since I'm a direct person, I confronted her. I made
it clear that if I heard her speaking negatively about
me again, she was going to have a problem. And honestly,
after that, she backed off and we're actually cool now. Ironically,
though this story is about Jill. At first, Jill was
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warm and welcoming. We bonded quickly, probably too quickly, forming
what I now recognize as a trauma bonded friendship. I
was grateful to have a friend when I was struggling
to find my footing, especially with Hannah actively trying to
sabotage me in that time. We shared a lot. I'm
naturally an open person. I'll tell you anything, and I
don't shy away from discussing my past, which includes childhood trauma,
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serious medical issues, and loss. I've been in and out
of therapy my whole adult life, and was just as
open with Jill as I would be with anyone. She
also shared a lot about her own traumatic past, and
we bonded over that. But there were red flags. At first,
they were small things that brushed off. She seemed to
struggle with controlling her emotions. She'd get jealous if a
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student to me for help instead of her. She'd start
the day crying, saying she hadn't slept. If I spoke
to Hannah about work related things, she'd feel excluded. I
was patient and reassuring at first, thinking she just suffered
from anxiety and self consciousness. Because I could see she
was struggling. I shared my psychiatrist's information, suggested medication might
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help since it had helped me, and even invited her
to church. She accepted all of this willingly, but as
time went on, her behavior escalated. One major red flag
was when she told me she had no friends at
all outside of me. You just got there, though, hmm.
I was blunt with her. I told her that wasn't
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healthy and that she needed to put herself out there.
I even expressed that it concerned me because I couldn't
be someone's everything. I'm a wife and mother. And she
still lives at home with her parents. We were at
very different stages in life, but she quickly started calling
me her best friend. I made sure to clarify that
while I have a solid group of longtime best friends,
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I was always open to new friendships. But that didn't
seem to deter her. By the end of last year
and through summer, I was still her cheerleader. We cried together,
laughed together, and even spent time outside of work, but
I started feeling emotionally drained. Her constant anxiety and stress
were triggering my own. When the new school year started,
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she was worse than ever. She wasn't sleeping, constantly crying,
and seemed angry all the time. I found out she
had met someone online over the summer and it wasn't
working out. You wanted to talk about it constantly. Every
conversation for weeks revolved around it. I tried to be patient,
but eventually I told her I was done discussing it.
I had given all the advice I could. She needed
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to move on. At this point, she had started medication
from the psychiatrist I recommended, but wasn't seeing a therapist.
I told her plainly, I'm in a season of my
life where I need to be equally yoked in friendships,
equally jacked, equally staff goop dup my friendships to be shreded.
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I believe she is referring to the olden use of
the word yoked, more like a yoke on, like an
ox equally yoked. I think it's like we're working equally.
We're all wearing the same pair of pants. I don't know.
I'm not a farmer.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Where's good old etymology Riley?
Speaker 1 (42:23):
I know he wasn't a farmer either, but he had goats. Sure, Ope,
he continues. That might sound selfish, but I need people
who can pour into me the way I pour into them.
I reminded her that I wasn't her mentor big sister
or a therapist. I could be her friend, but that
was it. This led to our first real confrontation. Things
got awkward, but we eventually settled back into a routine.
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Though I was pulling back, I was emotionally exhausted. As
I distanced myself, she became more reactive and she'd tell
me I was being cold or aggressive. Another big moment
happened when I finally told her some of the behaviors
that made me uncomfortable. I know I have my own
issues and I can be blunt, but I also have
great friends and former co workers who I still have
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strong relationships with. Sometime, spending forty hours a week with
someone just creates friction. One time, she told me she
wasn't sleeping because of demonic dreams. Since we had already
shared religious experiences, I suggested she see a priest or
someone who could help. In hindsight, I understand why she
took offense, but I genuinely wasn't trying to be insulting.
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Then came the late night texts. She would send me
long emotional messages in the middle of the night about
how I had hurt her feelings. The first time, I
firmly told her not to do that again. It wasn't
okay to drop triggering messages on me before we had
to work together the next day, but she kept doing it.
I put the lego in front of you because I
block you. Yeah, well, I guess those are bricks not blocks.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Get your lego knowledge right. I'm telling Keon, gonna tell
Kets for this show.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
But I did kind of wonder if this girl would
like be an ear for Ope's problems. But it really
does sound like she's just complaining to OPI and not
really being there for op. Ohp, he's just being there
for her, which I mean, OP kind of confirmed, I guess.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
With like the equal yoke stuff.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
When it comes to feelings, A lot of times, you know,
if someone says something and it hurts someone else's feelings,
that is in the wrong.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
That's wrong. You shouldn't hurt someone's feelings.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
This situation feels like, you know, your feelings probably got hurt.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Not my fault.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
I can't really control your feelings. I was right in
what I was saying. I believe in what I was saying.
I think I was going about it in a good way.
I think it's good that I'm being honest.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
It's just a coincidence, I guess, or it's just your
issue that your feelings got hurt in the situation.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Hey, y'all, it's John Ogi host here. We're gonna get
back to the stories, but here's a quick three minute
break from as for more sponsors. OPI continues. It all
built up until she sent another li night message and
I snapped. I talked to my husband and friends and
they all told me this person seemed emotionally unwell and
that I needed to cut ties. So I did. I
texted her Jill, I'm done. I can't keep doing this.
(45:13):
But a few days later she came to my room
wanting to talk. She seemed genuinely self reflective, and we
both agreed to move forward. But things were never quite
the same. It was still tense and with occasional outbursts
from her. I was trying to be patient, especially since
she was now dealing with a serious family illness. And
then yesterday happened. After our boss left. She accused me
(45:35):
of taking credit for something she did. I was honestly
confused because it was such a trivial thing, something we
had all worked on as a team, and I wasn't
nice about it. I snapped sorry in a rude tone
and walked away. I was just done. Then today everything exploded.
A student asked me for something and I said no.
They responded, I'll just go ask Jill. I half joking,
(45:59):
we said, go ahead, she's a pushover. She'll probably give
it to you. Ha ha. I didn't mean it maliciously,
but I shouldn't have said it. Well. The student ran
to her and told her. He stormed into my room,
yelling at me in front of the student that I
was rude and shouldn't call her a pushover. I was
still caught off guard that I started shaking and had
(46:20):
to sit down. Who PTSD triggers. She stormed out, and
when the bell rang for lunch, she came back to
tell me something I'm related. I said, Hey, we need
to talk about what just happened. You can't run into
my room yelling like that. You didn't even give me
a chance to explain. That's when she fully unloaded every
ounce of pent up resentment. She called me mean, accused
me of taking credit for things all the time, and
(46:42):
finally yelled, you're mean.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
I don't like you.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
I don't like you. I just don't like you.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
I'm sorry, she yelled, I don't like you. I don't
like you. I don't like you.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
She put her fingers in her ears and said, I
don't like you. I to like him.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
That's crazy. She's an adult.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Why is she first well, yelling in the workplace, second
of all, yelling that at all?
Speaker 2 (47:04):
That is so insane, sounds so mature.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Yeah, I would just be like, are you sure you
don't like me? Oh?
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Really?
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Are you sure? You don't like me. You said I
was your best team.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Yeah, you said I was your only friend. Actually you're
not my only friend. Definitely not my best team.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
She then ran back into her room. I just sat there,
completely drained. I cried through lunch, tried to hold it
together for the rest of the day, but broke down
again during my last period. I'm so exhausted. I don't
even know what to do anymore. My husband thinks I
should just go tell our boss, but I feel like
I'm just as culpable. I know if I do that,
I will just be spitting in our grave. However, I
(47:43):
don't know if that's the wisest thing to do to
protect myself. It's just all really unfortunate, and I feel
a lot of it, most of it on her part,
is just her being constantly triggered and reacting to those feelings.
And that's the end of that story. And you can
say that to your boss. Hey, go, Look, I just
don't think me and Jill are gonna work well together
because she's got a lot of emotional stuff she's going
(48:05):
through and I'm not equipped to be there for her
in that capacity, and it feels like she is putting
me in a place of obligation to where if I
can't show up for her in that way, I'm now
a villainy. I already gave her a psychiatrist. Yeah, and
now she you know whatever, Like things are getting bad
between us. We need some sort of degree of separation.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Totally, totally, motally, totally totally. That is the end of
the story.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Is that is the end of that story? End?
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Do you have some comments?
Speaker 4 (48:36):
Comments are from the video my best friend kicked me
out of her wedding posted on August twenty second, twenty
five tld. Opie's friend Charlotte ironically.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Had no way. Yeah, another one.
Speaker 4 (48:50):
Charlotte asked her to wear a white dress to her wedding,
even picking it out herself. At the wedding, Charlotte screamed
at op for wearing white and punted her out, saying
it was a friendship test. When OPI threatened to expose
the truth, Charlotte's husband tried to hit on her. As
an apology, OPI posted proof on Facebook showing that Charlotte
(49:12):
set her up on purpose, and now everyone knows. The
bride wore blue while tricking her friend into wearing white
just to humiliate her. And I do vaguely remember this story.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
I don't remember that, but I gotta say, you never
wear white to the wedding. That was a trap. Should
have known that was a trap. You go, I don't
care if you want me to wear this white dress.
I'm not gonna wear it's your wedding. You're crazy, that's crazy.
But then she'd be like, you passed.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
But the fact that she's doing some sort of tests
on her friend at all is insane.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
Comment to one Opie nineteen ninety seven. It sounds like
the bride just wanted some kind of memorable drama at
her wedding. Opie didn't ruin the wedding, but she just
took the drama bait. Bride would have been super disappointed
if Opie didn't wear the white dress.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
Yeah right, what do you mean? She would have been
so happy. She'd have been like, oh, my best friend,
I found you now I know that you're my best
didn't wear the dress.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
It was all a test and Commenter two a mid
Moon ninety five. My cousin told all of the women
of her wedding to wear a satin dress and asked
me to see the only dress I had. It was
a big red ball gown and she was over the
moon telling.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Me to use it.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
I told her, I love you, but that is not
appropriate for the wedding.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
I will get a.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
New dress and it's not even in the color Pellette.
Good thing that I ignored her because my dress wouldn't
even fit in the venue space and everyone would have
tripped over or damaged it. Most of all, I would
have been the only one out of theme.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yeah, that'd be embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (50:48):
Ali Zoo forty seven to fifty five. Anyone giving a
friendship test isn't mature enough to get married. If OPI
has any proof that Bridezilla asked her to wear that dress,
she needs to make it public. In any case, she
needs to block them all and also show literal receipts
from the two hundred and fifty dollars she gave for
the wedding. Good luck to the groom, and it to
(51:09):
add nevermind they deserve each other.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
I think the groom ended up sucking too.
Speaker 5 (51:14):
I see, I see, Oh yeah, I mean the fact
that he tried to apologize by hitting on her pretty crazy.
It's like, I'm so sorry, so sorry girl for my
crazy wife.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
But like you shouldn't feel like because you're so hot.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
My wife is probably just acting like this because you're
so hot and delicious. I wish that I was marrying you.
Speaker 4 (51:34):
In last comment Sherry mulliv Thompson eighty three, eighty eight,
Uh and OPI asking about the dress negated any perceived
need for a friendship test. This person took that opportunity
to put her in a no win situation. Wearing the
dress got the offended response, and I am almost positive
that not wearing the dress would have gotten you the
(51:56):
don't trust me response. There was no equal ground on
this one.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Yeah, I mean, it's crazy all round. She exposed herself
as someone you don't want to be friends with. Yeah, congrats,
you don't have to ever be friends with that lame
o again, yeap, And you can move on, you know,
onwards and.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Upwards, onwards.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
And it happens to everyone. Everyone has a friend where
they're like, this is my friend and then at some
point they go, oh, no it's not.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
But that is the end of that story and episode.
Then all right, So if you love us, make sure
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Speaker 1 (52:31):
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