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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:16):
My mom abandoned me as a baby. Now my new
family betrayed me.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Throw all the families away for.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
A bit of context, This all happened in the year
of twenty twenty one. Me female twenty three, My ex
best friend, also the same age and female. Let's call
her Gina. Her little sister, let's call her Ginny twenty one.
Their brother Tim fifteen, their mom Susan forty five, and
their dad Chad forty seven. So they're all living under
the same roof at my family's house. How did this happen,
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Speaker 2 (00:54):
I am an only child.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
My mom went to work overseas when I was just
two years old.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
And my dad passed away when I was well.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I grew up with my grandmother who loved me dearly,
and an uncle who treated me as his own daughter.
My uncle also worked overseas. When I turned ten years old,
when my dad passed away, I was left with my grandmother.
My mom was financially present for me and always made
life easier for me, as she is still providing everything
that I needed financially. When I reached the age of eighteen,
my grandmother was asked to live with my aunt, who
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was living in another city, which was about an hour
and forty five minutes away on a plane. She was
asked to stay there for two years and I couldn't
come with her as I'm still in college. I told
her I could survive alone now since I was eighteen.
My grandmother, being the loving grandmother that she is, does
not want me to be alone in our house, as
she knows it gets lonely there.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Our home is not that big.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
It is a bungalow house with four bedrooms and is
all made out of wood. To assure my grandma that
I will be okay, I asked her if it's okay
that my best friend Gina and her sister Jinny stayed
with me at our house. Since we practically know each
other since elementary school and have stayed as friends until college.
My grandma agreed, as she trusted Gina and their entire family,
was decided that Gina and Genny will stay with me
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at our house.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
The first few months were okay.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
We were happy doing teenager stuff and of course enjoying
the perks of living alone. We stayed up late, talked
about boys and girls as I am by, and basically
just did what teenagers would do. After a few months
of staying together, I have noticed that their mom has
already been taking baths in our house. I didn't mind,
as she was also like a third mom to me. However,
their dad also did the same, and their little brother
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coming to our house to use our comfort room. For
additional context, they don't have their own house. They were
living with their grandparents too, and although the house is
bigger than ours, they have two families living there, thus
their home is very crowded. They're a family of five
plus their other family members, which is a family of four,
their aunt and their grandma, so a total of eleven
people live at their house and they only have one
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comfort room, so I really did not mind the subtle changes.
So a few more months passed and they were punted
out of that house as their grandma and their mom
had a fight due to the cleanliness of the house.
Their mom told me that their grandma was asking her
to clean the entire house, even if it's not their mess,
and she got fed up. So they had an argument,
leading to them being punted out and they have nowhere
to go. So me, being the naive girl who has
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been with this family for almost all my life, I
called my grandma and asked if they could stay at
our house temporarily, as they have nowhere to go and
we have three extra rooms. My grandma reluctantly agreed, but
we called my uncle first to ask, and my uncle
strongly disagreed, but I pleaded with him, me being the
only niece.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
He agreed.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
This family moved in with me at my own house.
The first few months were great. They didn't treat me differently.
They treated me like family, feeding me their food, giving
me what they had, and even including me in their
family outing. However, this temporary stay turned into years. At
this point, they've been staying at our house for two years.
The house that I once maintained with cleanliness was now
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all trashed, with soiled clothes everywhere, reeking stench of dog
poop and pea as they had dogs, and they never
clean cigarette butts of their dad and brother well over
the place.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
They never washed the bed sheets and pillowcases.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Okay, so Grandma the last house.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Was right, Yeah, it was them.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
My grandma got home and saw the state of our house,
and obviously she got angry, and at first they cleaned,
but then they went back to their old habits. A
week later, my grandma had to go back to my
aunt's place as they didn't have anyone to watch their house.
They went out of the country for my older cousin's wedding,
so my grandma left again. I tried to endure it.
I never leave my room when I'm at home. At
this point, the tidiest place at our house was only
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my room. The living room, the kitchen, and the bathroom
was filthy, dirty, soiled underwears and sanitary baths left in
the bathroom. I had to clean them, as they never did.
I was enduring this for three years now at this point,
and I bottled up my anger as I did care
for this family, and I didn't want to punt them out.
They don't have anywhere.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Else to go.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
After three years, you could have undoubtedly figure out somewhere
else to go. Yes, they paid for the electricity, but
just the electricity. They never paid rent. Water here is
also free, so they just paid the electricity. We have
fresh w from the mountains, so we don't really have
a water bill. Two more years past, it is now
five years. At this point, a neighbor told me that
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they were spreading lies and telling their guests that I
was the one they took in and my house was theirs. Basically,
they told people that they let me live at my
own home for free because I don't have parents. The neighbor,
being there since I was born, reacted and told the
guests that it wasn't true and that this is my
house and they were the ones living here for free.
Another neighbor came up to me and told me that
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they were spreading news to the other neighbors that they
were feeding me and that I was abandoned by my family.
I mean, I was alone, but I wasn't abandoned. I
buy my own food. I had enough allowance for me
to buy my own food and groceries each month. After
that came out, I was hurt. These were the people
I trusted and cared for the most, and yet they
did this to me. At this point, I was getting
depressed as I had no one to talk.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
To about this.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Luckily, my best friend asked me to go to their
place yeah to talk as he feels.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Like something is not right with me.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
He stated that I was not the usual bubbly and
energetic person that he knows anymore. Then and there, I
let it all out. I cried for hours and my
best friend consoled me for hours. Now that someone knows
what I'm going through, my best friend has offered to
stay with me there. I agreed, and we again asked
my grandma and uncle for permission, and they both agreed
as they know this best friend.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Before my best friend could move in, my ex.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Bff's dad had bought a flat screen TV, which I
didn't think was conventional, knowing that the funds they used
to buy that TV were supposed to be educational aid funds.
That TV screen had broken when I arrived. I never
touched this TV, as I do not touch their things,
and I was at my best friend's house when this happened,
but they somehow blamed me for that TV being damaged.
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They never told that to me straight to my face,
but multiple neighbors came to me and told me that
they were saying that I destroyed their TV. I was
shocked and my neighbors were shocked, as I never go
out of my room when I'm in the house, with
the exception of going to the bathroom and cooking, but
most of the time I'm just inside my room. I
never confronted them. The day came and my best friend
moved in with me. We shared my room as my
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room had two beds. He was using the other bed
when he arrived. Their dad was mad. He was screaming
that I never asked for his permission, which is crazy
because it's not his house.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
At what point in their mind did they like get
this delusion that they have owned this house the whole
time and that they are the ones doing like a
good deed for someone.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yeah, we need to find where that line was, take
a time machine back to that moment and immediately get
them out of the house. Mind you, I had already
asked permission from my grandma and uncle, you know, the
people who actually own the house. I told him that
my grandma and uncle knew, so he never brought it
up again, but when I was at work. I was
working at this point and have graduated college. Since my
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best friend called me and he was crying. He said
that their dad threatened him because he was worried. I
rushed home, saw my best friend at my neighbor's house
and they let him nap there while waiting for me.
This was the time I decided that I couldn't take
it anymore. I went to our local government hall. In
my country, they are called a barangay hall and are
elected barangay captain, kind of like an HOA president was
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my uncle's closest friend and has known me since the
day that I was born. Pretty good guy to have
on your side in this situation. I told him everything
that happened, and I was crying. He also got worried,
as I'm the type of person that won't make a
fuss about anything unless it's extreme. He called the entire
family of my ex best friend into the barangay hall
and talked. Please know that barangay captains are powerful in
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our country. They are tied with the mayors in our
city's government body. The barangay captain asked me what I
want to do. I asked if they could leave. They agreed,
but asked for a two month extension.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I said no. I said, I want them out by
the end of the week.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Yes, yes, yes, And they had no choice and got
out of the house. As our conversation has left a
record at our place, and neighbors are on my side.
Last I heard they rented a place near a bridge
that gets flooded every time it rains, and some neighbors
were telling me that they were talking crap about me
and how ungrateful of a brat I am.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
After they took me in as their own child.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
They didn't take you in.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
It's the opposite of that the child.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
The child took the family in. I have never felt that.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
I mean, they kind of did treat me like their
own child at first, but after five years, I.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Never felt that.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
They kind of treated me like I was a bird
to be around in my own house. And that's why
I never come out of my room when I am home. Now,
am I the a hole for punting them out? Gonna
hit you with being Nope, no big nope, nope and
good job.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I hope that you find much more peace.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
My in laws are being shady with the house they're
renting us.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Maybe it's time to come into the light.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
So back in October of last year, we started renting
a mobile home from my husband's grandmother and her son
uncle in law manages.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
The property because she lives far away and is old.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Around late January, we were told rent would increase by
four hundred due to gmail not being able to get
a renter in her other property, and my husband said
he could. They agreed to split it and he had
to pay two hundred on top of the agreed amount.
Our lease says nothing about length of time, so it's
not illegal, just unfortunate. By the way, this comes from
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Decent Sky, and if you want to submit your own stories,
go to the r slash okay storytime subreddit. After that,
we decided we wanted to see about buying our own
house since we have kids and we want something permanent.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Shortly after this, we were.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Told that there was a person coming by to take pictures, but.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
That they were for a dealer who buys property.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Suddenly I found full pictures of our house with all
our belongings on homes realtor Zillow, et cetera. I called
her after this and stated I didn't feel comfortable and
that the pictures being put online were not part of
what we were told. She said it was implied when
she stated she was listing it. I voiced my concerns
and cleared up the misunderstanding that just because we're looking
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at houses, we aren't approved by a lender yet and
it will take time. She stated to husband and I
separately in two different phone calls, that she would take
it off the market to make it easier since it
wasn't supposed to be listed online anyway, something to do
with it being on mobile home park Land and not
its own land. Two weeks later, the day after both
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my husband and I just got out of the hospital
with neurovirus, we were given four hour notice that there
would be a showing. I tried to say no, but
apparently there was absolutely no way to cancel and uncle
in law was just doing his job. So I scrubbed
the whole house so no one would get sick, as
I had a fever and we have a one year old.
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Not sure where to put this in the timeline, but
the day before, which is the day that I got
home from the hospital, as well as our daughter's first birthday.
G MIL complained about us getting a hamster, stated the
lease aid no pets, and was generally upset. Husband took
a picture of the text where her and I spoke
about getting something other than a fish because the kids
were asking for such, and she said her issue was
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with cats and dogs and said what the cat is
fine as long as it didn't cause damage. Her husband
pointed out that they had also agreed on two hundred
less than the rent he was paying currently. She backed
down after that and lowered the rent back down, but
never asked about the hamster after that. After one showing,
we were irked, but didn't say anything. A week after that,
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showing two was scheduled with seven hour notice. I texted
Gmail and asked why she told us she was taking
it off the market if she didn't intend to, As
well as stating that the lack of communication was not okay.
She started off with, excuse me, but I have a
sister in the hospital in a life threatening situation. Not
to take away from it, but her sister and her
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aren't close and the situation was a leg imputation caused
by refusing to monitor diabetes, which is awful.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
But not an excuse to lie.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
I said I was sorry about her sister, but that
this is an issue that needs to be addressed, and
that lying and giving us extremely short notice wasn't acceptable.
I'm assuming she called uncle in law after this, because
she didn't respond, but he called my husband stating that
her sister was sick and that we needed to talk
to him going forward. Shortly after the showing was canceled.
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The very next day, two days ago as of me
writing this, we got a letter stating there was a
buyer and that we had until May fourteenth to be out,
as well as a list of all that needed to
be done before moving out, cleaning, patching holes left by shelves,
et cetera. Apparently, even though there is a buyer, they're
showing it again tomorrow. Thankfully, we were given significantly.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
More notice this time.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
I tried all day today to figure out what was
going on, but uncle in law kept stating it wasn't
our business to know what was.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Going on with the trailer when we weren't asking for that.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
I stated why they were lying and going behind our backs,
and he kept saying the same exact thing.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I didn't lie to you. I don't know what my
mother said, so I can't answer.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I'm not giving you buyer information, which again was never
remotely asked for. My husband asked why there was another
showing if it was under contract, which is pretty simple
to answer because it's mainly we want to back up
if the first buyer falls through. He stated he wanted
to call, which I read because I wanted everything to
be clear and easily available to refer back to.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
This is the.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Abbreviated version of After that, Uncle and law says, I'm
only answering questions. There's nothing to refer back to me.
I have already been lied to over the phone and
would like everything in writing. Uncle in law, well, I'm
not texting anymore me. Okay, that's fine. You're not going
to be open with me, so there's no point in
asking anymore. I'll stop asking, Uncle in law, I am open.
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Stop hiding behind your walls and phone and talk to
me face to face, direct quote.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Stop hiding behind those walls that you live in that
I'm trying to sell out from under you me.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
I have a baby. I'm not going over there to
argue and bicker. I will stop the conversation since it's
going nowhere. I texted uncle in law's wife and asked
her if she knew why they were acting like this.
She had no idea and she had been really busy
with work and appointments. I apologized for being out of
the blue, and I said I was sorry for not
talking to her more recently, but that I was really
upset at their grandmother in law's and uncle in law's
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bus I sent the screenshot of the above conversation minus
my last reply because I hadn't made it yet, and
said this crap is scary. Uncle in law wrote a
long paragraph three hours later about how Tea his wife
mentioned above, wasn't involved and doesn't know anything about the house,
never asked her about it, which I agree, like don't
bring Tea into.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Days, not about the house. This is like, why are
these people doing this to us?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Why is the.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Uncle in law and GMAIL doing this to us? That's
all Opie wants to know.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
How he's not obligated to share business about the house
and listed a bunch of questions that were never even
hinted at, like the price of the house and moving it.
He stated he's not sure how he's scary and going
forward that I can no longer talk to Tea. My
response was short and included I can talk to anyone
I please. These questions were never asked and you know that,
and that if he no longer wishes to text, he
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can email us and provided the emails of me and
my husband. Husband is just as confused as I am
and things. It's retaliation for us saying we were looking
for a house after rent was righted. This isn't normal
behavior from them, but we have never been in a
business relationship with either of them. The only complaint made
to us about anything was the hamster, which she stated
that it was okay and said, I guess the kids
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would like something they could pet and go with what
the kids would like. This was in text. No complaints
made about the cleanliness either. Actually, the opposite husband has
paid rent on time and the full amount that was asked,
even after it was raised. We have three kids, so yeah,
it gets messy and loud, but no damage other than
some drywall holes in one bathroom and the laundry room
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where a shelf fell. I'm bad at putting them up,
So about a ten dollars patch in paint to fix,
which we already stated we'd do, and there was still
nothing said about it being an issue. We're both just
extremely confused. They won't say anything about it, no matter
what uncle in law stated, no one is acting any
certain way.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I'm at a loss.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Husband and I don't care much about the house, as
we already planned on moving early with everything else they
had done up to this point, but the lying, hiding,
and denial is upsetting, to say the least. The wrong
here is this all normal? And I'm just sensitive to it.
I've dealt with landlords, but not for a single rental house.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Like this where it could be sold.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
I asked for communication and am left with significantly more
questions than answers. I don't want to call because it's
easier to manipulate and cut people off, especially when tension
is high, so I know it wouldn't it be a
good idea. I cry super easily, so talking face to
face also is an ideal, and I took his statement
as highly aggressive and I don't.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Tolerate it well at all.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
This is okay, this is back to my thing, though
I also cry very easily in conversations that are tense,
like that, but sometimes you have to just have that
conversation in person because one it might not be as
tense as you think because tone can be taken wrong.
In texts, you'll get all your answers, questions a little.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
You're gonna cry, it's gonna really suck. But it's a
conversation that you have to have and it's.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Gonna really suck.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
But record it if you want to be able to
play back to it. Go in with a list if
you like, get really overwhelmed with that. Like sometimes I'll
write things down that.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I need to say.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
But I think clearly communication via text is not working
for you, and you refuse to call, well.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
No, you gotta think one of them.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
I think this is the thing because he's likeall and
she's like text, just go.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Just just because you're gonna cry, and like it's gonna
be hard and you don't like conversation, doesn't mean you
shouldn't do confrontation. Yeah, I think this situation, if you
know the people that you need to sort of weigh
against are gonna straight up put hanging fifty on you
and slam dunk all over you the whole conversation, maybe
you should just formulate a text.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
I want to communicate and I don't think asking for
it and writing is so difficult.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Am I overthinking this? And we have an update.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Uncle in law was showing the house today, and by showing,
he apparently meant coming in with tea and taking pictures.
I'm not sure who to trust, and I'm trying to
figure out how to deny entry until the move out date.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
We have another update.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
I have them on my security camera with no other
people showing, complaining about our led striplights.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Renter friendly and uncle in law was.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Taking pictures all over like inside the oven, laundry room,
et cetera. Has been called it out and got no response,
so we both agree he knows he's in the wrong.
Even worse is the fact that there was nothing to
lie about. He's allowed to ask for an inspection and
take pictures for record keeping, and yet decided to lie.
We're trying to get out asap. Thank you guys for
reassuring me that this isn't something normal and isn't okay.
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That's the end of that story.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, I love it. It wasn't even like a should
I move.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
It's like the whole time they're planning on moving They're
just like, is this normal?
Speaker 5 (19:25):
The whole time they're planning on moving, and they were like,
I'm just mad that I'm not getting answers.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Okay, move is the way my grandma in law and
uncle in law are moving normal?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yes, they just move.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
They're literally moving around like an interpretive art piece. That
is a abnormal, abnormal movement. Wow, that's the end.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Hey y'all, it's John og Host here. We're gonna get
back to the story. So but here's a quick three
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Speaker 7 (19:49):
See, my fiance is ashamed of my sister, so I'm
reconsidering marrying him.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
If you don't like my sister, you're out.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
I would like to know if I'm being over dramatic
or overreacting.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
I'm twenty nine years old. My fiance is also twenty nine.
Speaker 7 (20:06):
We've known each other since twenty fifteen because he attends
the same religious church as me. We started dating in
twenty twenty two as he and he proposed to me
in February of this year. We have plans to get
married in October. He's an only child and I have
one little sister who has some special needs. With me
being an only sibling to my little sister, who is nineteen.
By the way, this comes from Mermaid for Live ninety
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six and if you want to submit your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay storytime sepreddit. So if
something were to happen to my parents and when they
can no longer care for her, she'll be living with me.
She's not severely disabled. She has down syndrome and a
low IQ. She's very independent though she can walk, talk, eat, shop,
do a lot of skills on her own with minimal assistance.
She's just very vulnerable and isn't aware of safety. My
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fiance is fully aware of the circumstances regarding our future
and has accepted her living with us. It becomes a
topic a lot since we're also considering having our own kids.
So not all of the time, but sometimes when my
fiance and I go out, I include my sister. I
do respite for my sister, and I get paid to
do respite for her. Again, my fiance has always been
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acceptable with me including her when we hang out. We
went out yesterday and I included my sister. My whole
night felt ruined though because of him. We went out
to eat and my sister was trying to order, but
he kept rushing her when she was stuttering a bit.
I didn't make a scene and kept silent due to
not wanting to make a scene.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
We went to the mall.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
Next to go a shop in my sister's and i's
favorite store. My fiance stayed out of the store, which
was fine because this store is aimed towards women. When
we got done with shopping, my little sister was showing
him what she got and he didn't say anything and
didn't even show any interest. I confronted him a bit,
and he made a rude remark, saying, God forbid me
not caring about your sister's fragrances. Our last stop was Target,
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and I had to get some things and I had
my sister help with scanning things. He seemed annoyed and
told me that she needs to speed things up because.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
This is awkward. What did you rushing off to? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (22:06):
What what do you have to do with all these
a few seconds?
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah? Mind you.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
There wasn't even a line and multiple self checkouts were open.
When he drops me off at home yesterday, I didn't
even say anything. As much as I want us to
grow together, I can't be with someone who belittles my sister.
Do I have a right to be upset? And there
are some comments, but what are your comments? Sofia absolutely totally.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
Like this is you have already said that in the
case that something happens, in the event that something happens
to your parents, you are going to be taking care
of your sister. So this isn't just like, oh, yeah,
she's my sister, you have to be around her on holidays.
This is someone you might you know, be taking care
of yeah, forever exactly.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
And like, if you guys are talking about having kids.
Speaker 8 (22:55):
There is a high likelihood that one of your kids
might have DOWNSI.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
Yeah, and just in general needs so much patience also,
and he is clearly not having any patience. No, is
it going to be embarrassing for your kids to like,
I don't know, not know how to walk? Yeah, but
everyone else will undertand because they're freaking kids.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
She's just like the two year old doesn't know how
to talk, right, so embarrassed figure it out?
Speaker 6 (23:18):
Gosh. But there are some comments.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
A budget discussion five six eight says I'm confused about
what was awkward to target her in general her speed
while checking items or a lack thereof. Either way, I'd
be offended and feel protective of her because I can't
see his perspective about either being valid. I'm so sorry
he was mean to you and towards her. The term
red flag exists for this reason. Continue the engagement, but
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be very aware of what and how he says things.
If you continue to see red flags, make the hard
choice sooner than later. Opie says, I was having her
scan items because it's a goal that she works on
since she gets state services for her intellectual disability. I
had a full card and it was taking a little
longer than usual to finish because she would accidentally scan
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something twice, so the staff was kind of hanging close
around us in case we needed assistance. I think he
low key feels embarrassed just by her presence and feels
like we're being stared at. Bright Bag two nine three says,
you obviously don't have to if you don't want, but
I'm very curious to know what this loser of a
man looks like. A lot of losers who talk crap
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are insecure and below average looking. Opie says, it'll be
breaking the rules by post him, but I don't mind
sending you.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
A picture of him through pm on here.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Confusable fraggle, says Opie.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
I think things are a bit more worrisome than you
are letting yourself believe. He is treating your sister as
a nuisance. He is not low key embarrassed. He is
outright ashamed to be seen in public with your sister.
His behavior is rude and belittling and dismissive. I currently
work in retail and have to oversee the self check
machines often if he is getting upset because a person
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learning to use the machine is slower than a person
who already knows he lacks both patience and empathy. I've
watched many people come through those machines. Many times we
have to fix an accidentally doubled item, or a barcode that.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Rings in wrong, or what have you.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
The way people react in those situations is very telling.
It's a tiny little stress moment in their day, but
it shows their character. Your fiance is currently showing very
poor character. If he has this poor of an attitude
about a small oops like these, he will have a
much worse attitude about bigger problems. Of course, there are
always folks who were already having a bad day and
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thus react out of proportion. But all you did was
take your sister for an outing together. That shouldn't be
a bad day for a decent human. This requires a
very in depth conversation, the very least you need to
get to the bottom of what he actually thinks and
believes about you, your sister, and your family. His mother's
comment about the gene pool shows that he has been
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taught from the cradle to devalue anyone with a handicap
of any cut. I don't think we got that comment
in there, ah, but I'm very curious about what that
is and that where was that?
Speaker 6 (26:04):
Yeah, the gene pool, that sounds bad.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
That definitely does.
Speaker 8 (26:08):
I feel like the mom was probably making a comment
about them ivan kids.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Then yeah, probably.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
I apologize for not having a better word than handicapped
to describe the mindset problem. If he is actively working
to undo that conditioning, that is good, but he obviously
has a very long way to go. If he is
trying to just get by into the wedding, his mask
is slipping badly. Either way, your sister does not deserve
to be treated as his social dues for being a
good guy. She is a human with her own dignity
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and deserves to be treated as such. I hope you
can get to the bottom of this quickly. Op, you
are not overreacting at all. I'm afraid you are likely
underreacting to the problem in front of you. Best of Logop,
may you find a nice shiny spine and use it
for and use it well for your own benefit and
then for others Hugs if you want them, and then
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Alison C. Miller says, I can empathize with both of
you here. I had a niece with special needs and
it can be a lot, so I can't blame anyone
for not being ready to have that in their life.
But it's important for him to respectfully say I'm sorry,
I'm not ready for that, instead of flying to you
to keep his romantic access. To put it overly politely,
this is a huge red flag. Try to work it
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out with him if you want, but for the sake
of the kids it don't have this man's kids. Being
a parent requires way more patient than he's shown he's
capable of. And you just know if one of them
is disabled, he'll blame you and your family's genes.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yikes.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, true, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Helicopter No.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Forty one sixty six says it nor One thing to
keep in mind, aside from how he treats her sister,
is that in marriage, there will be times when you
will need him to be your caregiver. It could be
after the birth of a child that took an unexpected turn,
surgery where you can't even bathe without assistance. If he
treats her sister the way he does, ask yourself if
he would treat you the same way when he is
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supposed to care for you, I would have an honest
conversation with him about your expectations in this marriage and
as if this is something he is capable of hope.
He responds, his mother actually asked my parents about our
gene pool when we went out with his parents one time.
I think this is our information, ros yike gross but
said afterwards she would love her grandchild regardless.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Sorry she brought up.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
What's the gene pool?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
And then says, oh, but about allah, I mean, whatever
it is, I'll love my grandchild.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
Why did you say it like that?
Speaker 7 (28:35):
Like, why even bring it up? But I would bring
it up, So I just let that one go. So overall,
judgment is gnaw the ale, and there is an update from
only five days later. Huh oh, do you have any
comments before we move on?
Speaker 8 (28:49):
Well, I think that you should have a very frank
conversation with your partner and say, one, my sister's not
going anywhere, so you need to learn how to treat
her properly and kindly and respectfully, right, because.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
She's still she's still an adult, and she just.
Speaker 8 (29:03):
Still deserves respect. Yeah, and kindness. Well, I think she's
she's nineteen to nineteen. Okay, so she's nineteen, she's still
an adult. Treaty respectfully. Yeah, she's not going anywhere. And
and then again, secondly, are you going to be like
you know that this runs in my family. There is
a possibility that my child or child might be born
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with a disability.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
So are you up for that?
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Because if you're not, then let's cut it off here.
Speaker 8 (29:30):
If you are not one hundred percent ready for your
child to be born with something like a mental disability
of physical disability, then you're not ready to be.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
A parent with me exactly. There is an update.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
So after posting about it, reading most of the comments,
and doing some deep thinking, I've.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Decided to cut ties with him last Sunday, whoa, Whoa.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
It was one of the most hardest things that I've
had to do because we've had our future planned out
and he was my first relationship.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Oh wow.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
Family will always come first with me, and I'm not
going to be with someone who is an ableist, especially
when him and I can end up with a disabled
child someday, because muscular dystropee does run my family. As
far as my future, I'm a pediatric registered nurse, so
I'm going to keep focusing on my career. I have
a savings account set up, so I'm planning on applying
for an apartment very soon. I'm also going on a
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Behemian cruise in October that was supposed to be our honeymoon,
but I'll be going with my best friend instead, so
I'm ecstatic for that. I'm going to keep living my
life as best I can and not dwell over a
relationship that obviously wasn't meant to be. For the few
people who made comments such as I'm just going to
end up single because no one wants the package that
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I come with.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
That's terrible.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
Just know that I see the ableism in you, and
you might want to humble yourselves, because anyone can become
disabled respectfully.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
But do you have any final thoughts.
Speaker 8 (30:54):
I feel like that it does feel maybe just in
the way that's been written, it does feel very like quick.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
But I do think it is the right decision.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
In the long term.
Speaker 8 (31:04):
Yeah, it doesn't seem like he he's up for this
kind of lifetime. Doesn't seem like he wants her sister around.
I fear that he might like isolate her further from
her sister in the long run.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
But we do have a little bit more to the story.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
So for some comments, startust stuffing says, good for you.
My daughter is autistic and requires a lot of patience
and understanding. I'd lose my mind if someone I knew
treated her badly because of her extra needs. So how
did he take it? I'm really curious to know and
hope he response. It went pretty sour, but I expected
it because he has a pretty short temper. Another red flag.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
Yeah that's not good.
Speaker 7 (31:41):
Yeah, which is crazy to admit because we are both
part of the LDS church.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
But a little context.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
So before officially breaking up on Saturday, we went out
because I really wanted to get down to the root
of the problem on why he was so disgusted by
my sister. He started gaslighting me and making me feel
like it was meat issue. That's when I knew that
it wasn't going to work. And on Sunday I had
him come over to my house and I told him
that we're done. He started crying and apologizing, and he
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turned into a hothead and demanded the ring back and
everything that I owned that he bought for me. Crazy right,
mind you. It has happened at my parents' house where
I'm currently living. They were already aware of his behavior,
and when he demanded everything back and refused to leave
my bedroom, I just texted my mom for help because
it was the first time that he showed genuine rage
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at me and I didn't want to get physically hurt.
My dad, who was a retired cop, came up and
told him to leave. Yeah, when your safety comes into play,
this is not someone that you should be with.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Oh no, box.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
Finn says it. Well, to be fair, if he proposed
to you, you should give him back his ring. Hope,
he says, the ring I absolutely did give back, but
clothes that I own and I've worn multiple times, car keys,
that he had insisted to replace when I lost mine
in the past, and other petty things like that, I
refuse to just give back, okay. Research fifty six eighty
six says, totally fair. Returning the ring shows respect, but
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keeping personal items you've used and we're gifted makes sense.
Not everything needs to be handed back out of spite.
And that is the end of that story.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
I think you made the absolutely right choice.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
Absolutely so obviously the right choice.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
Wow, even just having a quick temper, I'm like, no,
that's a that's a big red flag, uh for su Yikes.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Yeah, definitely made the right decision.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
She'll be fine. She'll have so much fun on that cruise. Yeah,
it's gonna be great. It's gonna be a good cruise.
My family abandoned the affair. Baby, Well that's a bad look.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
What Hi?
Speaker 7 (33:43):
I'm at twenty three mail and this week my entire
life changed.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
Three days ago, my grandfather passed away.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
He was seventy eight. He had two kids, my mom
and my uncle. I'm the youngest in our family, or
at least I thought I was. By the way, this
comes from a Safe a Gazelle fifty two to seventy
four and If do you want to submit your own stories,
go to the r slash okay storytime subreddit. So during
the wake, a huge bomb dropped on all of us.
It turns out my grandfather had a four year old
daughter with a cleaning lady who used to help him
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around the house. The woman is gone and no one
knows where she went. The girl's name is Lenka, and
she's tiny, quiet and completely alone, and everyone in my
family hates her. Oh no, not Lenkaw the funeral, nobody
would even look at her.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
I saw her curled up in the corner of the
room like she was trying to disappear, and the.
Speaker 7 (34:29):
Only conversation anyone had was who's not going to take her?
They all agreed that she should be sent to an orphanage.
I don't know what happened to me at that moment,
but I snapped. I walked over to her, knelt down, smiled,
and asked, would you like to live with me?
Speaker 6 (34:42):
She didn't say anything, just slowly nodded, and that was it.
That night, Lanka came home with me.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
She had been staying with my cousin for a few days,
and Nica handed me her health card and basically said
good luck. I'm a twenty three year old guy living
alone in a small apartment in eastern Slovakia. I work
from home, I pay rent. I'm not rich. I've never
raised a child. I'm still an external university student. I
go to school on weekends. But she came with me
and she's been here since that night. She didn't say
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a word on the car ride. I showed her my apartment,
gave her food. She barely reacted. Later that night, while
I was trying to sleep, I broke. It was two am,
and I was crying, like I haven't cried in years.
I kept thinking, what the heck am I doing? How
can I raise a child when I'm just a kid myself.
My family won't help, Everyone will judge me. She's not
even technically my niece. She's my aunt, yeah that part's
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while she's my mom's half sister, which makes her my aunt.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
But she's four.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
I couldn't sleep at all that night. Around three am,
we had a little accident. She went the bed, didn't cry,
She just tried to hide the blanket like she didn't
want me to find out. My heart cracked in half.
I told her everything's okay and helped her clean up.
In the morning, I explained that we needed to go
shopping for her things. We walked to the store, only
five minutes away, but it took us fifteen. She was
trying to be independent and didn't want to hold my hand,
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but on the way back she was so tired she
almost collapsed on the sidewalk.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
I asked if I could carry her.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
She said no at first, but after a few more
steps I picked her up anyway.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
She looked annoyed but didn't resist. We made it home.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
I made her breakfast, thank you to the friend who
gave me ideas, then told her we had to go
to some offices so I could become her guardian. I
thought I'd just drop off the papers and said the
whole process started immediately.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
It was chaos.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
I brought every document I had, my ID, death certificate,
her health card, a letter I wrote asking for emergency
temporary custody.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
But when I got to the child.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Services office, one woman tore me apart.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
She was cold and cruel and basically called me a
stupid boy to my face.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
You're just a kid.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
You can't raise another kid. You don't even have rights
to her.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
She's better off with her mother, and she said all
this in front of Lenka, who was sitting quietly in
my lap. I looked down and saw tears running down
her face. At first I didn't even notice, just felt
her little body trembling. Oh my god, she was crying silently.
I gently apologized to the woman, stood up and said
we'd come back later. I took Lenka outside and walked
her to a little ice cream shop nearby, who sat
together in silence. I explained that we'd have to go
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back and talk to the mean lady, but I've I
promised that I would stay with her the whole time.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
She nodded back inside.
Speaker 7 (37:02):
The woman didn't get any nicer, but she did explain
what would happen next, basically exactly what I had read online.
Social workers will visit us, they'll try to contact her mother.
If they find her, she make it legal priority. But
I'm going to fight this because if that woman abandoned
Lenka once, she'll do it again, and I won't let
that happen. Now it's late again, I'm completely drained, and
I need to say this somewhere.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
I love this kid.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
I've known her for three days, and I would do
anything to protect her.
Speaker 7 (37:26):
But I'm falling apart inside. I work from home, which
is the only reason this is even possible, But on
weekends I go to university and I'll probably have to
give that up. There's no babysitting culture here in Slovakia,
especially not in a small town like ours. I'm selling
my motorcycle so we'll have more money for her. I'm
terrified I'll never have a girlfriend, because what twenty three
year old wants a boyfriend with a four year old.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
I feel like I traded everything I used.
Speaker 7 (37:47):
To be for someone who deserves a better life, and
I don't regret it. But I'm scared and tired and
trying not to break. I don't even know why I'm
posting this. I just needed to let it out. If
you read all this, thank you really, and if anyone's
been through something so I'm Laura. Any advice would mean
the world. And there are some comments, but do you
have any before you move on to those, have you
been in the summer situation?
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
You know, this is totally right in my wheelhouse.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah, you know Grandpa's They got a lot of time
on there is.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
I don't know anything about what the Slovakian government would
provide for you. It seems like their system kind of
is based on arbitrary. It's her mom, so she'll get
and she'll probably just abandon the kid again.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
Yeah, I don't I don't have any advice because I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Become some sort of you know, traveling band. You and Lenka.
You can be like, you know, the percussion, and then
she can be like on your shoulders playing like a
flute of some kind.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
Maybe yeah, give her the complicated one.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Become Internet famous and then you know, now you're trillionaires.
Speaker 7 (38:43):
Tina Marie ten eighteen says, I don't have any advice,
but as someone who grew up unwanted, I do want
to tell you thank you for taking her in and
wanting to fight for her.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
It means so much more than you will ever know.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
Opie says, thank you.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
I needed this.
Speaker 7 (38:56):
E v B six six six says that you are
a good person and I'm waiting for you.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Opie says thanks.
Speaker 7 (39:01):
Any advice they say, firstly, document everything, don't let the
horrible social worker get to you.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
You're a hero to litle Lenka. Right now.
Speaker 7 (39:08):
Seek out some parenting forums, single dad groups, or even
local churches and community centers that may have resources that
can offer support. Children thrive on predictabilities, so having some
semblance of a routine will help you both. Make sure
that that includes a little breathing space for yourself. Linka's
trauma won't vanish overnight, and patience is everything. You are
already taking small steps of trust. You don't have to
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be perfect. Just keep showing up for her. You learn
as you go and are more than enough right now.
I'm sure your grandfather will be looking over you. Rainbow
Bright says, when someone says document everything, it does mean
as literal much as you can. In the beginning, take
a full body clothed picture of her every month to
get in a binder with a piece of paper where
you write out her height and wait write notes like
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what she likes to eat and watch and play, and
what books you're reading to her. This serves two purposes.
You can prove that she's healthy, growing, and cared for.
You can also prove that you are caring for her
and I know things about her. It also gives you
a regular current photo in case Mom tries to show
up and yoink her.
Speaker 6 (40:05):
It may sound tedious or annoying.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
But it will be so worthwhile.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
One day when she grows up and you can show
her what she was like as a little person.
Speaker 7 (40:12):
Nanny sixty five says that you will never be sorry
that you stood up for her. I don't know anything
about what you need to do to get formal custody
of her, but I guess a lawyer would be useful.
Aside from custody, surely she would be entitled to your
grandfather's estate. Good luck to you, Opie. I'm sending the
two of you hugs. Opie says it can't afford a lawyer,
but I will fight.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (40:31):
Quick Store says, I don't know laws in your country,
but your grandfather has an estate and she should be entitled.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
To something as his child that will help offset raising her.
Speaker 7 (40:39):
Not sure what death benefits look like for children with
deceased parents that still need support, look into those options
as well.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Opie says.
Speaker 7 (40:45):
The entire land and house were already decided and divided
between my mom and uncle about ten years ago.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
That's what the will says.
Speaker 7 (40:51):
If I wanted to fight this proposal, I would have
to hire a lawyer. At least Grandpa left me a
field and some plots of forest land. And there is
an update. Tanka is doing well. She finally started smiling.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Hey, linca smile.
Speaker 7 (41:05):
I introduced her to my neighbor, an older lady who
never had children. She looked after Linka while I went
to get her toys from her grandfather's house. She also
has a dog, and Linka just can't stop playing with it.
One night, Linka found me crying. She sleeps in my
bed and I've taken the couch. I guess she must
have heard me. She came to me and asked if
I was crying because of her. Of course I said no,
and when she hugged me, my heart shattered into a
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million pieces. I will protect that child. She's mine, and
I'll do anything for her.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
We have some comments.
Speaker 7 (41:32):
Phililiana says, Opie, you are a wonderful person, and I'm
sure there will be lots of women.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Who would want a man with a heart like yours.
Speaker 7 (41:41):
What you do for that kid is selfless and kind
and good, and she will be forever grateful for the
one person who stood by her when all the others failed.
I'm not sure whether it is affordable to get her
into therapy, but I strongly suggest it for the both
of you. I wish you all the best, Opie says, yes,
I'm planning to take her to a therapist in Slovakia.
If you pay for health and insurance, it's free. I'm
paying for our health insurance and I also get paid
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extra for various injuries and so on. Not trying to
make waves, says hi op some small advice. You're doing
amazing and I admire your humanity and resolve. Childcare is
tiring through in body and soul, and it would be
easy to slide into a world of putting Linka first
and only Lanka. This will bring you out. There will
be times where it's in her best interest to come
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second and put yourself first. You're sleeping on the sofa,
you need to work out a way of getting a
proper sofa bed.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
It doesn't have.
Speaker 7 (42:31):
To be new, and you can sometimes pick them up
for cheap or even free in local groups. You have
to make sure that you're sleeping well, because if you're not,
then it will affect your mood, your health, and your
parenting relationship with Linka.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Socializing being a single parent.
Speaker 7 (42:43):
Will mean that you almost never go out and run
the risk of getting cut off socially.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Look at something like D and D, which can be played.
Speaker 7 (42:49):
Online through Discord, or Roll twenty, which will give you
access to adult conversation. Take the opportunity if she's invited
to a sleepover, to go out and see friends. Even
if you think you could just sleep for a thousand years,
your mental health is important. Opie says, thank you for
the advice. My friend offered to sell me his son's bed,
so I should be back in my own bed in
a few days at least, I hope so. And oh god,
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I didn't even think about that. Since she has been
with me, I haven't gone out with my friends even once.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
I really need to look into that. Thank you.
Speaker 7 (43:18):
And Aleanna oxen Free says, take her with you to
meet your friends and hang out. As a single parent,
I brought my kid everywhere and she was just my
little sidekick, and I got socialized and she.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Got to socialize, and it was helpful to both of
our growth. Ope says, yes, I will probably do that.
Speaker 7 (43:33):
I belonged to a motorcycle club, or at least I
used to, but I sold my motorcycle. But everyone in
the club is incredibly kind. I'll take her bowling with us. Wow,
that is the end of that story.
Speaker 9 (43:44):
Wow, everyone would clap woo w Wes not abandoned an
a fair baby. Let's go, Let's go his aunt.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
He can't abandon his aunts.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
And now Lenka's going to be a professional bowler. Oh yeah,
I just going bowling.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
She's going pro. That's how they're going to make the money.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
My father has a secret family that he hid from us.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Seecret family. Seecret family.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
The first ten years of my parents' marriage were pretty
normal as far as I could see. In two thousand
and five, my father tried to break up in a
kind of midlife crisis. Once my mother guilt tripped him
into staying, and he did under the agreement that he
could go on so low holidays every once in a while.
By the way, this comes from user jib murcafee and
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if you want to submit your own stories, go to
the our slash Okay storytime subrend it. So to sum
up the following ten years, Dad worked over time a lot,
and we had our problems with money regardless.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
What was weird and maybe obvious.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
It was weird and maybe obvious, but I didn't really
notice back then. Fast forward to September twenty fifteen, my
father told me that he wanted to break up, but
this time for real.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
He told me.
Speaker 4 (44:54):
A week before he told my mom. I was still
living at home, and this week was a nightmare. A
big part of me as a person consists of being
absolutely open and honest about everything, especially to the people
I trust. My mom always was a person I trusted
and much like a last straw if something in my
life really went down a rabbit hole, and this would
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have been a moment I really needed her, but my
dad blocked that option for me, as he wanted to
tell it to her himself. Every single time I saw
my mom in this week, I felt incredibly bad for
her that I knew and she didn't. A week later,
he told her and she broke down. Dad was the
love of her life and still is that is until today,
and he broke her heart. She was very understanding and
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let him go, and they agreed about not divorcing for
tax reason. They not only agreed on that, but also
him still doing repairs on the house on a weekly
basis and letting her live in the house without any
cost while he moved out. Mom got in a fragile
state of mind. Since then, two weeks post breakup, I
nearly passed away all of a sudden, Mom's world broke
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down again. Thank god, I recovered, but it was a
really slow the process and my mom was in permanent
worry about me. In this time, my dad introduced me
to his girlfriend, Sarah forty two females. He eve invited
me into her apartment that he moved into with her,
and she was wasted in the middle of the deck
and smoked a lot, which was really a off putting
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thing for me. Trying to recover my lungs didn't make
it better. November twenty fifteen, I nearly passed away to
the same thing for the second time, with doctors calling
out my parents.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Gosh, they said they should.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
Come to the hospital because we weren't sure if I
would survive the night. Mom got into a huge argument
with my dad because he didn't come over. I never
forgave him that he wasn't there, maybe not for my
morphine pumped self, but at least for my mom having
the worst night of her life. I began to recover
slowly and my mom was in a superfragile state, crying
a lot and reaching out to me to talk about
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the breakup because she didn't want to tell her friends.
I had enough to do with handling the breakup of
my parents and my near death experiences, so I couldn't
bear my mom's pain as well as badly as I
wanted to help her. Dad saw the situation from the
outside and offered me to move out and pay for
my rent. I took the chance and moved closer to
my university and loved the feeling of finally standing on
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my own two feet. My mom hates to be alone
with all the memories in our family house, but with
time passing by, I slowly have the feeling she's coped
with it, as my dad and I visit her regularly.
He broke up with his girlfriend, Sarah by that time
because they got an argument about her being wasted and
breaking his coffee machine. April twenty sixteen, my dad introduced
me to his girlfriend of today, Rachel fifty six, female
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and her family. Her three kids are around my age,
and I really like those people. I love to see
my father happy with her. I know Mom doesn't know
about her, but we didn't want to pull Mom out
of her own world due to her fragile state, and
I think it's better this way. Fast forward to last
weekend and the huge plot twist. My boyfriend twenty four
Mail and I were invited over to Rachel's birthday. Everything
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was fine and we had a good time, and all
of a sudden, Rachel pulled out an album of photographs
of a family vacation in two thousand and eight. The
album contained photos of my dad on a family vacation
with another woman, with another family ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
I had a hard time coping.
Speaker 4 (48:14):
With the situation and not breaking out into tears of
desperation in front of everybody. The man I respected so
much for always working so hard wasn't working overtime. He
was with another family. It just feels like the last
ten years with my family were a complete lie.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
And you don't go on a family vacation if you
just got together.
Speaker 4 (48:32):
My guess is they got together when my dad tried
to break up for the first time, just with the
small difference that he stayed and pretended that everything was fine.
He led a whole double life with a second family.
The man I respect the most in my life for
what he is and is not only cheated, which is
a huge no go for me, but much worse, he
constantly lied about pretty much everything where he goes, why
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we don't have any money?
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Everything? And what about the former girlfriend Sarah?
Speaker 3 (48:59):
Did he heat cheat.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
With her on Rachel? How much does she know? Does
she know? My mom doesn't know.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
I don't have the courage yet to talk to my
dad about this and ask questions. There are so many
questions in my head and I even messed up my
recent exams because of this.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
I feel so incredibly.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
Bad for my mom, and the worst thing is that
I can't tell her at first. This is absolutely not
my job to tell her, sure, but I feel so
horribly guilty for knowing this while she doesn't know or
does she know, and she just never told me. I
have no idea if it hit me already that hard,
how bad would it be for her?
Speaker 3 (49:35):
For me?
Speaker 4 (49:35):
It was a childhood for her a twenty year marriage.
Don't even know how to feel about this. It would
be so much easier if I didn't love both my
mom and my dad and his second family as well.
The worst part for me, and this does sound selfish,
is that I'm not able to talk with the person
that always helped and was there for me when everything
went down the hole because it would probably hurt her,
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my mom even more than me. My gut feeling says,
I need to distance myself from my family, but I'm
not sure if that will help. I don't know how
to deal with the whole situation. Advice and we have
some comments, I mean, do we have any more advice
between the three of us, folks.
Speaker 7 (50:11):
I get why she feels like she doesn't She can't
talk to her because she doesn't want to be like
stepping out a turn or something like that, or like
deal with some like sort of relationship issues that she's
not technically a part of.
Speaker 6 (50:22):
And she also just does maybe doesn't want to hurt
the mom.
Speaker 4 (50:24):
I'm at number one, You need to speak with a therapist,
like yesterday.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Is this an option for you at all?
Speaker 4 (50:30):
It's hard to process and except that parents are just
humans after all, finding out the flaws of our parents
can be so difficult. And this one, well, it's a doozy.
Showing you the photo album was insensitive. They should have
never brought you into that situation without preparing for the
very likely outcome that you'd find out your mom needs
professional help as well.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
It's good of you to want.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
To support her in love, but you're her daughter and
you cannot be responsible for how she processes this. Everyone
needs counseling here, Mom, dad, you, any other kids involved. Everyone,
I'm so sorry you are in this situation. I can't
even fathom the kind of deception and heartache op he says.
I'm really considering speaking with a therapist, but this can
have a lot of bad consequences in my country. For example,
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it does affect your credit score and insurances are really bad.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Need to do more research about that.
Speaker 4 (51:14):
But I really like to build a future with a
home with my boyfriend, so bad credit score would be
a huge problem. I think about it more in the
terms that it's been affecting everyone for such a long time,
and it's been affecting me so badly that I don't
want to let it destroy my future as well. And
regarding this, I'm not sure if my mom would be
better off knowing it. What I know for sure is
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that if I get together all of my courage and
tell her, I'd look for a therapist for her and
make sure she gets professional help. So most of you
guys advise me to tell my mom and get therapy
for us, both as well as a divorce for my mom.
I tried to follow this idea, but honestly, it didn't
feel right to me, and I felt like it's a
not my job to do this and be not my
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right to pop.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
The bubble she lives in. Point B.
Speaker 4 (52:00):
It's pretty important because my mom tends to live in
her own bubble. It's gotten worse since my dad moved
out because she can't deny that he's gone. Dad and
I decided a long time ago, ten years or so,
that we don't rip her out of her own little
world and let her live in denial. Also because arguing
with her is pointless, and I do mean pointless. If
she has another point than you, you could talk as
well to a wall. Logic doesn't work here. Something I
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realized about my mom that surprised me as well would
be that some days after posting, I stumbled upon a
subreddit called raised by Narth and guess what I found?
My mom the North Prayer, completely absorbing the being a
mother of personality, even going far enough to make me
sick as a child to have a reason she can't
go to work and be a full time mother. But
that's another story on its own. Hanging around with the
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lovely mom of my boyfriend. I realized a lot of
what I experienced and knew is not just usual mom behavior,
and that my mom is some kind of master guilt tripper.
I'm her victim basically my whole life. I felt guilty
because I tended to like my dad more than my mom,
and I never understood what was going on. But seeing
both their behaviors from a third person's perspective was a
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real eye opener. I learned that my mom was and
is a manipulative and controlling person, and I understood why
visiting her is always exhausting, both for my boyfriend and myself.
Boyfriend saw and told me what I couldn't see, or
I guess what I didn't want to see, and all
I thought was, I mean, well, she's still my mom,
so it's my duty to deal with it. In retrospect,
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it seems like my dad always wanted to protect me
from her. That's still confusing to understand now at twenty five. Heck,
how should I have understood what's going on as a child.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Where about my dad?
Speaker 4 (53:35):
You may already have gotten an idea why he led
a double life and kept it all secret. He didn't
want to leave me alone with my mom. I reached
out to him after the birthday party to talk, and
he was happy I did. As we sat at the
table and talked about it. He was very calm and
apologized to me that my feelings were so crushed by this.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
What the what's going on? What just happened?
Speaker 6 (53:55):
We're finally talking to the dad.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
Did dad do a switcheroo? Or what's going on here?
Speaker 5 (54:00):
Now?
Speaker 2 (54:00):
It's mom? It's been mom the whole time. You realized it.
Speaker 7 (54:02):
I guess I can't tell you that dad is like
telling her this, but I don't know how else she
would find it out. So I'm guessing the dad is
telling her about this and she's kind of but I mean,
if she started to talk to the dad is like
why did you do this?
Speaker 3 (54:15):
And he's like, a, I see your mom.
Speaker 4 (54:17):
So he says he never intended to hurt me and
didn't think it would be a surprise for me at all,
since I was always a smart kid, and how could
one not see that something is wrong with their parents
sleeping in separate beds. I told him it's hard to
see for a child that doesn't know any better, and
he apologized again that he didn't think of that, and
he felt really bad for me. He also confessed that
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I'm the person he trusts and loves the most, and
that's the reason he wanted me to know and let
me be a bigger part of his world. Oh and
an interesting bit of info, Rachel and him have had
their twenty year anniversary next year. Oh my god, so
many wrong decisions were made here regarding the relationship stuff.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
I really feel sorry.
Speaker 4 (54:57):
For him and am finally able to underst and why
he always told me to take my time knowing someone
before thinking about getting a child. Anecdotal I was an
accident baby. He knew her two months before she got pregnant,
but she always told him she took birth control. What
have I done the last few months? Where am I now?
First of all, I didn't tell my mom at this point.
I don't see the sense in telling her. She'll just
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deny it anyway.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
I know my mom.
Speaker 4 (55:20):
I love her despite what she did to me and
still does to me, and it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
To hurt her with the truth.
Speaker 4 (55:26):
Deep down, I feel she knows it anyway and has
known it all along. I guess an adult does notice
that sleeping in separate beds isn't the norm and still
denies it.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
There's no need to rip her out of denial this deep.
I did talk about it with other adults, my physician
being one of them.
Speaker 4 (55:40):
He told me that my gut feeling is right, and
before I consult a therapist, I should consider taking my
time and my distance from it all and see how
I feel. Since he also confirmed that going to a
therapist in Germany has consequences for some work fields, he
said he has the impression that I sorted through my
thoughts well enough to handle this and that I'm not
left alone in this.
Speaker 2 (56:01):
Here's some interesting info.
Speaker 4 (56:02):
Every person that knew my mom personally advised me to
not tell her and that it wouldn't make any sense.
I decided that both my parents are adults and old
enough to handle their relationship alone. That was a huge one,
and honestly, I think this is the point I made
my first step into getting over it and distancing myself
from this mess. As far as I can see, it helped.
I got an apprenticeship in my dream job at a
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dream company about two hundred and twenty miles from home.
It doesn't sound like a lot, but the physical distance
is a huge relief because I'm just not tangible anymore.
A nice side effect of all of this is, even
though that I'm working more hours per week, going from
twenty to thirty five hours, I started to excel in
my studies at that point. I think it might be
about all the distraction and worry that I had at home.
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Since I've been here. I come home and then I'm
able to concentrate on the stuff I have to learn.
Then I'll go out for a walk, come home, cook
a healthy meal for a boyfriend in me sleep early.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
I feel so much better overall.
Speaker 4 (56:55):
Seeing what it's like to work in my dream job
might be a little motivator too. So what helped me
all along is distance, mostly the physical distance, since I
don't feel bad about it, even if my mom still
tries to guilt trip me every other day.
Speaker 2 (57:07):
But that's the point.
Speaker 4 (57:08):
I just turn off my phone and enjoy my life
and make the best out of it. There's absolutely no
reason one should feel bad about taking the chance to
work in their dream job in a dream company. And
if whoever doesn't respect that or didn't understand that the
world doesn't gravitate around them, and most importantly, that your
kids are their own persons with their own wishes and
goals and shouldn't be pressured into fulfilling wishes and goals.
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That you weren't able to make a words about my
health since a lot of you were concerned about how
I'm doing. What led me to almost passing away was
a big chain of unfortunate events, lemony snicket and mistakes
made by medical personnel. Unfortunately, it does affect me to
this day and always will because ten percent of my
lung tissue it died in the process and I have
to take lifelong medication to make my blood clot slower
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to avoid it from happening again.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
Don't worry, I'm fine.
Speaker 4 (57:55):
I had my point of no return in March twenty seventeen,
where I decided I don't want to live the rest
of my life into bed and went my way. Lost
fifty five pounds, got my skin nice and clear, and
changed my overall being, all out of my own free
will and with the help of Reddit that I just
discovered at that time. Today, I learned moving around and
building stamina helps a lot if you're lacking a chunk
of your lung. So you could say Reddit literally changed
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my life for the better. But that's again another story
on its own. Something that I didn't see was discussed.
You mentioned a twenty year anniversary. But does the other wife,
Rachel not your mom know about the girlfriend Sarah. I'd
assume not. If not, i'd assume your dad was on
and off with the twenty year anniversary wife. Right. OHP
says not sure about that. My father mentioned her the
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twenty year anniversary girlfriend to be on the more jealous side.
It could be the result of him telling her about Sarah.
I didn't talk about Sarah anymore since I also disliked
her as a person. I knew her for years and
never really liked her. Nothing to do with the relationship stuff.
And that is the end of that story.
Speaker 1 (58:52):
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Speaker 6 (58:56):
My stepbrother excluded us from his wedding.
Speaker 3 (58:59):
Because we disrespected his fiance.
Speaker 2 (59:02):
He uno reverse carded the disrespect for her.
Speaker 3 (59:05):
Context.
Speaker 7 (59:05):
I twenty one female, have a stepbrother nineteen male, who
i'll call Tristan, that has been dating his girlfriend, eighteen
female I'll call her Heather for about a year now.
They met in high school when she was a junior
and he was a senior. Throughout their relationship, my family
and I have seen red flags from Heather. In the beginning,
she seemed nice enough and we had no issues. This
is until they were lying to my parents about her
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giving him rides home from school.
Speaker 6 (59:27):
Hanging out, and you know, the normal teenage things.
Speaker 7 (59:30):
By the way, this comes from a commercial time seventy
five eighteen from the r slash Charlotte Dobray YouTube subreddits,
and if you want to submit your own stories, go
to the r slash Okay story time subreddit. So a
few months into their relationship, my parents caught them in
adult activities in his room with.
Speaker 3 (59:45):
The door open, well all of us were home, of course.
Speaker 6 (59:48):
Arguing and yelling followed this, and she left.
Speaker 7 (59:51):
This was on top of them lying about being a couple,
lying about her driving around and hanging out, him trying
to sneaker in the house, and her having what I
can only describe as a snobby attitude with my parents. Eventually,
my parents banned her from our house, but told them
what they do together outside of our house isn't their business.
Speaker 6 (01:00:08):
They told me this too when I was with my ex.
Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
This is where I figured he would.
Speaker 7 (01:00:12):
Dump her, as that was his usual pattern with his
version of dating. Tristan was a very troubled child to
say the least. My stepmom and two stepbrothers moved in
with my dad when I was about ten. I lived
with my witch of a woman for a mother and
her husband they are a whole another story on their
own at the time, and visited my dad on the weekends. Now,
I moved in with my dad and stepmom after I
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turned eighteen. In the first two years of me living
with my family, he had dated at least four different
girls to my knowledge, and they all ended the same way.
He would get some adult action for a few weeks,
get caught or bored, and then move on to the next.
Speaker 6 (01:00:47):
But for some reason, Heather was different.
Speaker 7 (01:00:49):
He won't even hang out with his friends if they're
going to a place like a club or bar because
Heather won't like it personally as a girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
If I trusted my partner, I wouldn't care.
Speaker 6 (01:00:59):
But I know every one is different for different reasons.
Speaker 7 (01:01:01):
Tristan is not one to be walked on, as he
has had so many fights with our parents.
Speaker 6 (01:01:05):
As he would do things like break into my room.
Speaker 7 (01:01:07):
It was so bad my dad put a lock on
my door and it still didn't stop him and steal
my gaming console or tablet, or sneak my stepmom's old
phone or computer when we weren't home or sleeping. This
behavior got better as we got older. Tristan was accepted
early into the military before he even met Heather, and
had initially told her he wasn't sure how it.
Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Would affect their relationship. This led to her.
Speaker 7 (01:01:27):
Screaming and crying about him not being able to promise
they were be together forever and that she can't handle
the long distance relationships prize. Apparently she can, because he
has been in the military for over a year now
and has been home maybe four times. Tristan even broke
down crying talking to my dad about the situation with
her because he didn't know what to do, and my
dad told him that a good relationship should not make
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him feel this way. Remember when I said she was
banned from the house, Well, my parents decided to be
nice and let her come over for this past Christmas
as she doesn't care for either of her parents, and
my brother had asked since it was Christmas.
Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Well, my dad caught them in.
Speaker 7 (01:01:59):
The eye again when he went inside to get them
so we could go look at Christmas lights like we
do every year.
Speaker 6 (01:02:05):
Imagine that the dad is like, hey.
Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
Guys, you want to go over the girl? Oh my god,
you got it?
Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Oh my gosh, do you want to go see some
Christmas law.
Speaker 6 (01:02:20):
Now to the reason for this post.
Speaker 7 (01:02:22):
Tristan called the other night to tell us about his
new job and that he's coming back home for a
few days next week and wanted to maybe grab lunch
or dinner the Thursday that he's here, as he will
be getting in late Wednesday night. Our family conversation was
normal until he casually mentioned him getting married, to which
he actually said that he freaked up by saying it
since he messed up already.
Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
He came clean and told us that him and.
Speaker 7 (01:02:44):
Heather are getting married a week from this coming Saturday,
on a boat.
Speaker 6 (01:02:47):
With her family that she hates and has no good
relationships with.
Speaker 7 (01:02:50):
He never mentioned us being included in those plans, so
my stepmama asked in the conversation with something like this,
what about us, Well, I want.
Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
You guys there, but Heather does it. She said it would.
Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
Ruin her plans and she kind of feels disrespected by
you guys.
Speaker 7 (01:03:05):
Right, well, anything to make her happy, I guess now.
Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
I know I'm on the younger side of this.
Speaker 7 (01:03:11):
However, I don't think that banning someone that has no
respect for my parents in their own house and still
giving them a second chance which they failed again to
be respectful. And yes, I do put fall on my
brother for those actions as well, and so to my
parents and encouraging him to go to a bar and
hanging out with his friends.
Speaker 6 (01:03:27):
Where he is stationed instead of doing nothing and staying
in his.
Speaker 7 (01:03:29):
Housing is so bad that you won't let your soon
to be husband invite his own family to the wedding. Also,
me and my grandmother and I who is also our
next door neighbor, have talked to this girl maybe four
times the whole time that they were together, and.
Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Kept my comments to myself.
Speaker 6 (01:03:43):
So I'm not really.
Speaker 7 (01:03:43):
Sure what we did, but fine, my dad told him
that it was unfortunate we weren't invited.
Speaker 6 (01:03:48):
Especially because he told us that he wanted us there,
but because.
Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
He never told us.
Speaker 7 (01:03:51):
They have plans for a little vacation and I have
to work, so we couldn't go even if he put
his foot down on it. Dad told him that he's
young and he needs to figure things out for himself.
We know that he won't listen to us since he
never did before, and that while we don't want him
to marry this girl, it's his decision and it won't
stop us from picking up the phone when he calls
or having him come home to visit. However, it will
not stop the inevitable conversation. We all need to have
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my family him and as soon to be wife if
he truly wants to have us in his life, but
she wants to exclude us because she feels this way.
Speaker 6 (01:04:19):
To this, my brother reluctantly agreed.
Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
As of now, my.
Speaker 7 (01:04:22):
Dad and I are over it since we already figured
something like this would happen, and my step mom is
very upset, which makes me angry. I love her so much.
She's the mom that I never would have thought I
could have.
Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Her.
Speaker 7 (01:04:32):
Oldest son also joined the military and eventually faded us
out for some reason. I wasn't very close with him
since he left when I was like fifteen, and I
barely saw him anyway, So she won't see him getting
married or meet his kids if he has them. And
now the same thing is starting with Tristan. If and
when we hear anything or see him, I may give
an update if you would like. I've been angry for
two days now, and guess what, there is an update.
Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Do you have any quick thoughts.
Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
Like let's just be like, let's just all get along?
Can't we all just decide to get along along?
Speaker 6 (01:04:59):
My best He found my post and urged me to
update since it has.
Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Been a while.
Speaker 7 (01:05:03):
Unfortunately, there's not much that I can say as of now,
since we still have not heard from him and he's
only posting his usual little memes on his social media.
Although we haven't heard from him, we're taking the silence
as they are now married and we have moved along
with life and will be at the phone if and
when he finally does call, since sometimes it's been a
few months before he does call, being busy with th
relocations and all. So when the time comes, as comments
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have said, I will have my popcorn ready and a
moving track.
Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
If I have to.
Speaker 7 (01:05:29):
My lovely grandma bet me five dollars. They won't make
it to six months, so maybe she will pay for
my pop worn when the time comes. Well that's all
for now, and there is an edit. I just would
like to address a few questions I have seen in
the comments of this update, as well as in the
original post that I created. In the original post comments,
I did relay that per my older stepbrother's absence, it
was faded out after him joining the military, which spanned
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over about two years. He was traveling overseas a lot
during those years. Unfortunately, as I did state in my
original post, I did not know the entire a story
of my older stepbrother's relationship with my stepmom or other
stepbrother as I lived with my mother and only.
Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Could visit my dad on the weekends.
Speaker 7 (01:06:07):
To my knowledge, there was not any issues, but he
was very quiet and reserved, and he was sixteen or
seventeen when they had moved in, so he was not
truly around my dad and I for very long. The
main thing of my family not being invited was due
to my brother actually telling my stepmom he wanted us there,
but his now wife did not, although she does not
talk to her own parents, but she invited them. My
dad said after I had written my original post that
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he's pretty sure that the no invite thing was pretty
much just for my parents, since me and my grandma
have had maybe one.
Speaker 6 (01:06:34):
Full conversation with this girl.
Speaker 7 (01:06:36):
Also, he has not gone no contact with my family
to my knowledge. As I have previously stated, it has
happened a few times that we do not hear from
him for a few months at a time due to
him being in the military. As for my own feelings
on this, I am supportive of my brother no matter
what he has decided, and as one comment has said on.
Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
This update, did take over on the little bet.
Speaker 6 (01:06:54):
My grandma made, especially since it has been.
Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
A month already. I love my brother very much and.
Speaker 6 (01:07:00):
He will continue with his decision for as.
Speaker 7 (01:07:01):
Long as he can't given his thieving habits that did
not break until his senior year of high school, which
was like a year or two ago, and that fighting
him on it would only make him double down more.
And that's the end of that story. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
All you can do in these situations that I've been
told before where it's like, oh my god, you got
to talk to so and so because they're going to
marry so and so, And I'm like, what do you
want me to say?
Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Right, He'll be.
Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
Like you so much now, I'm totally not going to
marry this person. Yeah right, He's going to go, Oh, well,
I really wish you didn't say that to me.
Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Anyways, I'm going to get married.
Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
I guess you don't want to go to the wedding
like what like, Come on, just be happy for people
and wishing the best.