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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:16):
My mother in law demands a financial compromise over a
problem she created.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Ah, we love when the problems demand we deal with
more problems.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Oh, ain't that the true backstory? Five years ago, my
mother in law retired, sold her house, and moved to
Arizona to be closer to my husband and to be
done with harsh winters. In our opinion, she did this prematurely.
By the way, this comes from a relevant.

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to the r slash Okay Storytime Supreddit starty no. So,
she spent her first year in Arizona living in a small,
not great apartment as that was all that was in
her budget. She also hasn't worked since, not even part time,
despite her financial advisor telling her.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
That she should have a job for two years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
My husband was able to buy her a home in
a fifty five plus community, and the community she's in
she chose for several reasons, including being large, dog friendly,
and we got her into this home with the understanding
that this was going to be her forever home. My
husband and I own the home, and we see this
as our investment into her future care. When she gets
to a point where she cannot live on her own,
we have this home to sell to fund assisted living.

(01:23):
We've made upgrades to the property roof and ac and
mother in law put her own money into changing the floors, kitchen, cabinets.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
Counters, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Okay, three years ago, she bought a Golden Retriever puppy cute.
We both strongly advised against this for several reasons get
to Rescue, including that we didn't think that she should
get a dog that would grow to be bigger than
she can handle. She got the puppy anyway, now, a
seventy five plus pound goofball that really isn't super loyal
to Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yes, man, I mean like, if you don't train the dog,
doll's gonna be hard to wrangle. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
Absolutely, a fine dog, but I wouldn't say it's the dog,
you know, not a heart dog.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
A year and a half ago, my husband and I
decided to move abroad and executed the moves seven to
eight months ago congratulation. We wanted to try a new
way of living and decided that Arizona did not support
the kind of lifestyle that we want to have. Almost
all of our family is still in Arizona, so visits
home will always be to there, and we even spent
two weeks there last month. My mother in law took
the news of our move incredibly hard, but since we

(02:26):
didn't move until a year after announcing our intention, by
the time it happened, she accepted things and it was
even somewhat.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Happy for us. That's good, that's great. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
A month after we moved, she had a heart attack
and needed triple bypass surgery.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
No, that's not great. That's bad. Yeah, that's bad.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
We supported her the best we could from abroad with
facetimes and Amazon packages, and my mom visited her in
the hospital almost every day. Her friends at the fifty
five plus community really stepped up and took turns caring
for the dog and helping her with anything she needed
through her recovery. It really reassures us to know that
she is surrounded by so much support, and that's part
of why we felt okay with moving away, but seeing

(03:03):
her go through this medical emergency while being over here
and helpless was hard.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
I bet man, definitely gotta be difficult, yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Geez, but our current situation.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
In March, the dog was at a neighbor's house, being
watched by set neighbor and other folks. Mother in law
was across the street at her own house. The dog
had Leijean, but.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
No one was holding it.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
A woman walked by with her own dog, and mother
in law's dog ran at The woman and her dog
presumably decreed, but the dogs got into a scuffle and
the woman's leg was injured with a scratch or bite
in her attempts to separate the dog.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Oh scratch scratch or bite scratch or there's a big
difference there.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
Oh yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah that really is dang infections, Yeah, could happen. The
fifty five plus Park has a zero tolerance policy for
any aggressive dog behavior, and last month my mother in
law received an eviction notice from the park's attorney, signing
the incident and saying that the eviction would be canceled
if the dog were removed than five days.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Damn wowing Wellatom's I've never actually heard one that like that.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
That's so fast. Five days and you're out of there.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Since we happened to be in a town at that time,
we were able to have her and the dog to
stay with us for a couple of days while we
evaluated the situation. We called an attorney who basically confirmed
that the eviction was legal. We all discussed and all
agreed that she would move into our house.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
We run it as a furnished rental.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
With her dog, which would buy time to think about
next steps, such as selling her house and buying in
another park that would allow the large dog. Then she
changed her mind and found a foster for the dog,
deciding to foster the dog, sell the house, and move
to another park.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
As quickly as possible.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
She's now putting a lot of pressure on my husband
and I to list her house. It's our names on
the title, but we are not on board with this
course of action. We haven't said this to her, but
we both think it would be better to rehome her
dog and stay in her current park. Reasons include selling
and buying will automatically be flushing thousands of dollars down
the drain in rental fees. The homes that would be

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in our budget are going to be twenty plus years
old and need the same kind of major repairs we've
already done in her current place, further eating to the
investment money. The park she wants to move to is
pretty far away, whereas right now she's five minutes away
from my mom. She would be moving away from the
support system provided by her friends in the current park
that has already proven itself, already proven itself.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
I'm just like, I've never heard it referred to as
a park, and it's just the language is funny to
me because it makes me. It makes I'm seeing all
of these older elderly individuals like like they're at the
dog park, Yeah, walked around on their leashes by like really,
I don't know, like children like their kids, Yeah, yeah,
like yeah, this is my this is mine att nineteen

(05:45):
fifty two.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
This one.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, it's like one of those like fake neighborhoods that
you can go around.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
Yeah, I guess they have fake neighborhoods for a certain.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
So That's just what I'm dealing with right now in
my head.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
More reasons she shouldn't be doing this kind of major
move at sixty eight years old. It's taken her four
years to get fully settled into her current home, and
she shouldn't be uprooting everything. The dog could easily be
rehomed to a great family. It's a golden and when
the time is right, she could adopt another dog. Also,
her dog did not miss her at all when she
was in the hospital for her heart attack day.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
That's a brutal man. That is ice cold.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
That's brutal.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
You could have just let that out. Yeah, that's a
rough man. One time someone told me that that might
just don't care about me.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
That's rough old. We got a.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Totally intentional She's really not a very loyal dog. Ultimately,
this house is our investment into her future care, and
from a financial standpoint, this seems like such an obvious decision.
On the other hand, she is alone and this dog
is her companion. I don't know if it's right for
us to refuse to sell her house, even if it
makes sense on paper. From an emotional standpoint, I feel
like this is wrong. I think that part of our

(07:01):
job in taking care of my mother in law is
making sure that she is emotionally cared for and forcing
her to get rid of the dog would probably be
unforgivable from her POB. My husband is planning on having
the talk with her tonight because so far he has
not shared with her his full thoughts on the situation.
He and I have been talking in depth for a
while trying to figure out a course forward. So what
would anyone do in this situation? Should we tell my

(07:23):
mother in law that we will not let her move?
Should we take the financial and help her keep her dog?
And there are some comments and there's like we're not
even halfway through the story, but what would you do?

Speaker 2 (07:33):
What would you do? I mean, she said she wanted
to like foster the dog or like rehome the dog.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
I think she can do that. It sounded like that
was her idea at one point, right, No, I think so. Yeah.
I think staying with the friends that she's made at
her park probably the best move you can get her
to agree. But there's also like, you know, maybe she's like,
I don't want to stay the same place where they
made me get rid of my dog.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
Oh yeah, she might be bitter like er.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
But it's like, I don't know, people will get stuff
in their head. It's hard to get it out of
their head once they are dead set on an idea,
so right, but.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Especially when they're elderly, it seemed to be a little
more set in their ways a.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Bit a little just a little bit.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, that seems like that seems like
a solid plan.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
And I said they're going to talk about it.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
That's definitely sure that they're not just like making an
executive decision.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
You know, should be a talk for sure.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Absolutely, But there were some comments comment number ones is info.
You say you had agreed for her to move into
your house temporarily to think about selling her house and
moving as the next step. Were you insecure when you
said this? And we're hoping that she'd change her mind
and give up the dog. I don't really see how
she's changed her mind in this situation. She still wants
to move elsewhere with the dog. It's just that she
wants to stay where she is and have the dog

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fostered temporarily, rather than moving to your house temporarily. Oh,
Pete responds No, that was a sincere offer at the time,
but now, having had several weeks to gather information, we
are grappling with huge financial hit. The dog means as
well as the other repercussions and considerations with her making
the decision to stay where she is and foster the dog,
she's now putting a huge time crunch and urgency on

(09:09):
the whole thing. Every time she calls, she is just
trying to put pressure on us to list the house
as soon as possible. Meanwhile, we've tasked her with finding
other parks to live in, and she's found one, and
that one park has one listing that would be within budget,
budget being at the max whatever we could net from
her house. Even if we did list her house today,
it's highly unlikely that it would sell. Her park has
slow market right now in time to buy that unit,

(09:32):
sellers have priced it low to.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Move it quickly.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
And there is another update. Do you have any final
thoughts before we go into this second or this.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
First uptod No, I think it's just dive riding.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
Let's go for it.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
So update mother in law to my husband, you're just
another man screwing me over, oh boy, accusations coming out
coming out hard, oh Man. A little more context. The
house was bought one hundred percent with my and my
husband's The park had a requirement that the resident had
to be on the title, so a few weeks after
we bought it, we added her name to the title

(10:07):
to check that box. A year or two later, we
removed her name from the title because A it's not
her asset, and B we anticipated a situation much like
this might happen.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
Good foresight.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Turns out she's currently out of state visiting a friend.
Plus there is a nine hour time difference from our country,
so our evenings are her mornings. She was supposed to
fly home on Friday and had commitments to handle for
us over the weekend. On Thursday morning, we woke up
to a text from her that she was wanting to
extend her trip and that it was fine except for
her commitment to us checking out tenants and checking in

(10:38):
new tenants. We pay her to manage our property until
our house sells in a couple months. I sent her
a polite but firm response that extending her trip sounded nice,
but less than two days notice was not appreciated, and
to please get me up to speed on her conversations
with the current tenants so that I could handle the situation.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
At the same time, we needed to have.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
The conversation with her about unlisting her house had said
that she'd call us when she woke up, so I
told her please don't do that as we'll be working,
and that we would call her.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
By the time we finished up work. On Thursday, we
had heard nothing back from mother in law.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Husband and I both tried to call her a few
times throughout the evening, and we figured that she somehow
took offense.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
To my text and was being pouty.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
So being unable to communicate with her first before taking
the house off of the market, my husband reached out
to the listing agent and asking for removal. The listing
agent said that she would take down the sign and flyers,
but that the house would stay on the market until
the contract expires. Husband responded asking what it would take
to dissolve the contract. She said we could talk about
paying her a fee. The agent didn't respond. The next morning,

(11:40):
we woke up to a text to my husband from
my mother in law. The agent had texted her and
told her that we wanted to take the house off
the market. To be clear, my mother in law's name
is not on the contract. The agent's professional relationship is
with us, and my mother in law is a tenant
in our house. It was wholly inappropriate for the agent
to reach out to my mother in law in this way,
and I will be contacting her broker to explain boom get.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Her getter, get geitter.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
So mother in law texted my husband saying that she
was confused, hurt, angry, and mostly very disappointed in the.

Speaker 6 (12:12):
Text hitting you with the disappointment hitting it's a disappointment.
I'm not angry, I'm just just disappointed, disappointed.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
She's using all the weapons in her.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Arse, in her vast arsenal.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
Arsenal, Okay, thank you.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
I was blanking on that word since she had been
ignoring us. The only text messages were the one I
sent in response to her extending her trip and the
text from the agent. She asked, what will it take
for you to buy me out of my portion of
my home so I can move on with my.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
Life that I choose to live.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
My husband responded that he had tried to have a
conversation and that he's not telling her how to live.
He's saying that there are conditions to her spending his
money which she hasn't met, and that they need to discuss.
He asked to schedule a call. She called him Friday afternoon.
Friday morning, her time, she confirmed that she was extending
her trip by a week, and my husband said that's great.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
She asked if he's taking her house off the markt.
He said yes.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
She asked why, and he said, you know, you know
why we've talked about this. She didn't respond and pivoted
to say that she is moving no matter what and
wants to be bought out of the house. So she's
going to do what they want, which is move out
of the house. But she's like, you gotta pay me first.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
She's like holding herself hostage.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (13:26):
It's a really like backwards situation, and it's like, well,
technically it is their how like they spent all the
money for it.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, right, Yeah, from what I'm aware.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Of, absolutely, So I guess she's just forgetting that she
didn't buy the house.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
She just being a difficult person.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
Yes, yes, it seems.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
My husband said it fine, and that he would reimburse
her for the flooring and kitchen cabinets.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
That she installed.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Ah, she do pay for those, I forgot, I guess.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
I guess.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
So she had originally wanted us to pay for those,
and we declined as the house's original floors and cabinets.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
We're fine.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
She said that her investment was worth sixty thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
It's not that it's expensive. Cabinets, yeah, for.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Real, Oh my gosh. He said, sure, show me the
receipts and I'll make you hole on it. From there,
she started spiraling, got mad that her name was taken
off the title, said that she wanted a return on
her investment and that she wanted forty thousand dollars, said
that she could rip out the cabinets, said it was
her house, threatened legal action so that this isn't how
you do business, especially with family, and said this isn't how.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
You treat family.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
Ah, she's really trying everything.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
She had a mouthful there.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Oh my goodness, gracious to that. My husband said, what
isn't how you treat family buying them a house to
live in for free.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
I'm so proud of him for that one. Dang. Yeah,
that's a great thing to do for your family.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, i'd be like, oh, so I shouldn't have bought
you this free house.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
Yeah, my bad, my bad. That caught her off guard.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah that's great, but she said, this isn't how to
treat your mother.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Who raised you for twenty years.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
At fourteen he went to live with his dad full time,
and at nineteen he went into the military.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
So he was very confused at the twenty years thing.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
She said she wants to be paid back for her
improvements to the property, and so with the spiral it continued.
Finally she told him.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
You're just another mass grew rolling me.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Up and she hung up the phone. Wow, she there's
still more to this. But this woman is hurt. She
is hurt.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it sounds like she's been
screwed over by a lot of men in the past,
I guess, so sounds like she is sensitive to that. Yeah,
you know it is fair to be like, well, I
did spend money on parts of the house. But then
also like don't tell them just a fake, made up
number that's not real.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah, that's like so much money.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, like tell him the actual house. Also, they're selling
this house to get you another house essentially, right, Like, yeah,
they're selling this place to put you in the next
place you wanted to be, right.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
So, like beggars can't be choosers.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, and if the cabinets weren't really adding any like, uh,
what's it called values to the house.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
Then you don't get anything from it. I watch HGTV.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
That's what they say, right, that's what they do say.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
Take it up with Joanna and the other one.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Take it up with the crew.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
So she hung up the phone.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
For a mother to say that to her son is
just what so gross in so many ways, all I
needed to hear to know that I'm not crazy about
the relationship dynamic here and her much deeper rooted problems
that she's never bothered to resolve throughout her life. I
could make a whole other post on that.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
My husband followed up the call with a text, I
am not another man screwing you over, and I think
that that was an.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
Awful thing for you to say to me.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
I'm simply not spending thousands of dollars to solve your problems.
You made the decision to get an enormous dog, you
made the decision to not get proper training for the dog,
and you made these decisions knowing the policies of the
park you specifically.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
Wanted to live in.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
The situation you're in right now is a direct consequence
of your decisions. You need to own the consequences of
your own actions. Furthermore, I agreed to sell my property
and acquiesce once again to your desires, with specific conditions
that you have chosen to ignore.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
My removing the house from your market.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Is again a direct consequence of your decision, the decision
to not work. I forgot about that not working things,
that's right, a callback from the very beginning.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Unimployed, unemployed and paid.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
For yes, yes, oh my goodness, but still not good enough.
And she's like, really.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
She's like able to work though too, she's not, you know,
broken enough, it seems.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
I mean, like sixty eight, it's pretty old. It's pretty old,
but also like there is stuff out there. Yeah, there's
stuff out there.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
I once worked at a clothing store and one of
my coworkers was seventy two. But you know, I mean,
obviously I don't know how like physically able she is.
But if she's got a big dog, then maybe be
a taste tester walk around. Yeah, you act as if
I I'm doing this maliciously, and I need you to
know that I am not. I am making the best
financial decisions to ensure that my mother is taken care of,

(18:07):
especially when she is so determined to act against her
own long term self interest for the sake of her
emotional state. She responded something about being paid for her investment.
He said something about how in that case she will
need to move out, and she said that she was
working on it. She seems to think that we are
straight up stealing money from her, something in her warped
point of view, really sees it as she is owed

(18:29):
at least one third of the property value no matter what.
I sent her a long text basically saying that she
acts very entitled toward my husband and always has, and
that what she said to him was wrong, that this
isn't about the money, that we don't want or need
the money from the house, that any of the money
is for us to take care of her, but it's
not hers to spend, that we still plan to take

(18:51):
care of her even through all of this, but that
she didn't uphold her commitment, and that she owes my
husband an apology. She responded saying that it is about money,
that she is grateful, and that we are rude and
disrespectful to her to get a job or else, and
that she doesn't need to be taken care of yet.
I asked her how she thinks it's fair that she

(19:11):
isn't holding up her end of the house selling agreement
and why she agreed to the job condition in the
first place. At the time to take care of her
already came when she needed a place to live, and
that she's lost my trust and owes my husband an apology.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
She also has had a.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Bit of a back and forth texting with my husband,
but it's just been some petty little quips.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
Actually gave me a good chuckle.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
She sent a pig of the Arizona sunset behind her
house and said, pretty sunset at your house.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
Exity, waitit wait wait.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Oh, Like she's saying, like, like at your house, not
my house.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
Oh I think that's what I say.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, your it's so nice here at your house.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
At your house.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Haha, ex Dy, it's like dealing with a moody teenager.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
We'll get through all of this. By the way you
get try to get through.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
It's all of our videos, all of our videos with
full episodes, stories.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
Just like these. How many days are there?

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Forty eight forty eight days, and that number is just growing, so.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Keep going up.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
It would take you forty eight days to get through
all that we have for you consecutive.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
Days, consecutive days.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Just go to Spotify, go to Apple Podcasts, your favorite
podcast app search, Okay, storytime and we got you, We
got you, And there is a tiny bit more to
the story.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
Any any quick thoughts we go into it.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Sometimes people are.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
Difficult, yeap that is, Yeah, it might.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Be still love them, still love.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Them begrudgingly sometimes sometimes sometimes Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
I just want to see how this ends. I know
she loves my husband, and I do have faith that
she'll apologize. And like I said to her in my
first long text, nothing you say or do in your
hurt and anger will change the fact that we will
always be here and ready to provide you with stability.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
That's a nice thing, dad.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yeah, through all of this, I have so much love
and respect for my husband that he turned out to
be such a wonderful person and partner despite his upbringing.
He says that we all get to choose who we
want to be. But I think even that takes a
level of awareness that most people don't have.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
But any who, in that case, I love who he
chooses to be. Oh what a sweet little note. That's
super cute. Show we adorable.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Little cutie pie type thing to say.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
Yeah, but we man the end.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
I heard so many stories like obviously you know, I don't.
I don't think she's like in the place yet where
she needs to be like actively.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
Taken care of. I mean, she is taking care of.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
But she doesn't need like a live in person to
take care of her something like that. But that's I've
just heard so many stories without being so difficult to
deal with your parents like that.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
So it's just hard when they like don't have a
job with whoever it is. Yeah, if you're like helping
somebody and they don't and they don't have any income, yeah,
it's just like, ah, are you trying right?

Speaker 5 (21:57):
And then they're complaining about like things that they.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
But you are sixty eight.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
It's a complication. It's complicated. But anyway, that is the
end of that story. Is my mother in law destroyed
my eleven thousand dollars wedding dress because she wanted to
try it on. That's bad. I'm located in Virginia. I
purchased a wedding gown that costs me over eleven thousand dollars.

(22:23):
That's also crazy in general. Yeah, that's a lot of money.
Then paid substantially more in alterations. Over the weekend, my
future mother in law decided to attempt to put on
my dress and failed horribly. How do you fail so
badly that you like, irrevocably destroy this dress? By the way,
this comes from Administrative Maine seven And if you want

(22:43):
to spit your own stories, go to our slash Showkay storytime,
separate it sure, long story short, It's beyond repair and
completely ruined. What did she do?

Speaker 3 (22:51):
I'm guessing it just like didn't fit or something, and
so she just like ripped it or something crazy.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
Yeah, I also have reason to believe that she caused
deliberate damnit to the dress because of certain areas that
were torn. My fiance doesn't believe that we're able to
take her to court and recoup the money because it's
just a dress, and he thinks the cost of the
dress doesn't meet some financial threshold to sue her. No,
I think it just has to be above ten thousand dollars.
I have no idea. Let us know in the chat.
In the chat put it down. I want to know

(23:18):
if that's true and if it would be feasible to
file a police report on her because of the more
deliberate damage. I know it's just a dress, but this
goes beyond the dress. Well, it's just an eleven thousand
dollars dress. It's not like it was like a fifty
dollars dress, right, right, It's an eleven thousand dollars dress.
I'm pretty sure you can go to at least small claims,
if not more. Update. Hey everyone, First of all, thank

(23:40):
you for all the sweet comments and support. I'm sorry
that I haven't kept everyone in the loop, but the
last several weeks have been truly trying, to say the least.
First things first, the wedding is off. Whoa whoa. Honestly
a little bit. I mean, I know, not that surprising
given that the husband was like, it's just a dress. Yeah,
Like I feel like he would have been and more

(24:00):
on her side if right, you know, right, that's crazy though. Yeah,
that was quick. Let's hear about that. We are still
together and remain engaged. Okay, oh never mind. I spoke
to saybe you should have read. But things are very,
very strained between us. The only thing that has really
stopped me from leaving this relationship is that I love
him from the bottom of my heart and I can

(24:22):
see how much this is hurting him. I really want
to work past this if we can. We're both committing
to seeing a couple's therapists. After future mother in law
ruined my dress, my fiance confronted her by telephone and
demanded that she help cover the damages to the dress.
She refused because she said it was an accident and
she really was just trying to help. She literally tried
to spin this as her effing helping me by I

(24:44):
quote giving me a standard to aspire to. What standard?

Speaker 2 (24:48):
What?

Speaker 5 (24:48):
And she also think admitted that she just wanted to
feel as young and beautiful as me. The worst part
is that he believed her bs at this point, after
she refused to pay, I started pitching a fit until
fiance said that we shouldn't jump to conclusions on the
damage until we visited the seamstress. That is fair. That
is fair fine by me. We went together and the
assessment was that it was completely trashed. It is beyond repair.

(25:11):
I really would love to see the damages, because, wow,
the beating in some parts is absolutely destroyed. The sheer
back of the dress was torn to shreds from her
disgusting fake nails. She also ripped a tool on my train,
and the seams were split so badly, and she'd torn
through other parts of the dress to the point where
they were beyond repair.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
That can't have been unintentional damage.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
That's rough, all of that damage just from trying on
the like I believe ye, that feels very something's intentional,
something's smelling a little fishy. Hearing how badly my dress
was mutilated crushed me. But my fancy's reaction at the
seamstress enraged me. He kept minimizing the damage, pointing out
how certain things absolutely could have been an accident. He

(25:53):
lied out of his butt to the seamstress, telling her
that the dress had an accident. When his mother attempted
to relive her model day, I corrected the course and
said no, that she tried to put it on without
my permission, knowing dang well that she didn't fit into it,
and deliberately destroyed parts of it in the process. The
real fun started when we got home. I told him

(26:13):
that if she didn't pay, then I wanted to sue
her for the damages to the dress. He told me
some bs about how the cost the dress didn't meet
the thresholds for a lawsuit. Okay, I took my butt
straight to the internet, posted to the legal advice subreddit,
and googled the thresholds for small Claims court in Virginia
before printing all of the responses I got and forcing
him to read them. He conceded that she owed us

(26:35):
something and called her with me sitting there as I
sat there, I crap you not. He argued with her
for all of five minutes before she broke down sobbing,
accused him of not loving her, called me trash for
turning him against her, and how could money be so
important that her love for oh would be more important
than her love for him. He actually soothed her and
told her that he understood, but I'm being super emotional

(26:57):
over the dress and this would help it blow over.
Oh no, now, are you kidding me? You're throwing your
fyance under the bus. Yeah no, no, no, no, that's ridiculous.
Come on, like your mom is an adult, treat like one.
She made a mistake, intentional or otherwise. Yeah, and she
needs to own it for her actions.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Absolutely, this is just liatarily just see how she has
She's just the type of person to never own up
to her mistakes.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
And to like always manipulate the situation to give.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Any excuse to not do that, and then he's obviously
learned from that as well.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
He's just blaming it all on someone else. Very true.
My goodness. She started babbling and sobbing, and he said
that he'd talk to me after they hung up. He
had the nerve to turn to me and say that
all he wanted was peace and to please just let
him pay for the dress and let this go away.
I wonder if he's very wealthy, and that's why he
doesn't really care about the yeah money, He's just like,

(27:51):
I don't know, it's like eleven thousand dollars, no skin
off my bull. I lost it. I screamed at him.
I cried harder than I probably ever have cried, because
I honestly felt that he took her side over mine.
He's well, he's prioritizing her feelings at least.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
I told him that it wasn't about the dress, and
that if he genuinely believed that this was over and
over priced stress at this point, then we needed to
cancel the wedding and he and his mommy could have
a nice vacation to Columbia. Without me. WHOA, that's where
we're going. Uh, that's where we're right now, right now.
We argued, and like he's been doing, told me that
he saw my point. I told him that I didn't

(28:28):
want her at the wedding. Shockingly, he agreed, Wow, I
feel like he's trying to He's just saying whatever these
people want to hear, well, whatever he wants to hear,
and whatever his mom wants to hear. He's like, yeah, sure, yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
I mean, if this is someone that just wants to
keep the peace no matter what, he has got to
have no opinions for himself.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
I sat next to him the next day when he
called her and told her that because of what happened,
we couldn't have her at the wedding. I actually felt
proud when he hung up on her after she screamed
and sobbed about how he couldn't do this. I began
to consider that maybe I was wrong about how he
refused to stand up to his mother. That is, until
I was on our shared iPad. I rarely use the
iPad because I'm way happier with my kindle, but I'll

(29:06):
reach for the iPad in the rare event that my
Kindle is out of juice and my phone is out
of reach. While I was using it, what pops up
are messages from future mother in law asking about the
best way to purchase discounted flights to Columbia. I scrolled
through the messages and he had folded the very next day,
saying that he had disinvited her for my sake, but
still wanted her at the wedding. See exactly what I said.

(29:27):
He just tells them what they want to hear. Yeah,
but the second someone else asks, like, it's probably just
going to be ongoing back and forth. Oh yeah, that
he'd slowly work on changing my mind and hopefully on
the weekend of the wedding I'd be feeling forgiving and
welcome her, and if not, I could deal with it.
Day I lost my mother effing mind. I actually packed
my bags. He was the one that ended up leaving

(29:48):
to stay with his friend while I stayed in the house.
The fight wasn't pretty, oh now, and that's about where
we are right now. We have both committed to couple's counseling.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
You definitely need that.

Speaker 5 (29:59):
It's a lie. I feel played right now, And that's
what he was trying to do play both sides. Yep,
he is a people pleaser for sure. We both agree
that the best thing to do for us is to
postpone the wedding until trust is re established. Deposits be danged,
and if anyone asks, I tell them the entire story.
Future mother in law has decided to come between us
in the worst way. Future mother in law, for the

(30:20):
most part, is fuming and trying to spin this into
me being a trashy, greedy harpie that's determined to bring
her in a precious baby, nothing but misery. She's tried
to come to our house several times to collect her
baby and his belongings, but I haven't answered the door. Fiance,
to his credit, has blocked her on his phone and
hasn't told her where he's living. Right now, he's gone

(30:41):
no contact and has agreed to no contact until we
begin therapy. Wow. Wow, what a switch from inviting her
to the wedding again and then going no contact. Yeah,
he's just he's really gotten no opinion himself. Yeah, no
spine on this guy. He's turned over all of his
passwords and the iPad so I can check his messages
when I want to, and trust me I'm checking. I

(31:03):
love him, I want to be able to go to
the distance with him, but while future mother in law
is in the picture, I just don't think I can.
For F's sake, I'm looking through his email accounts and
messages for contact from his mother. I can't even begin
to explain just how fed up this is. Sorry for
the long post. Please wish us luck in therapy. I'm
having a hard time keeping my hopes up. This has
been the worst month. And there is an update, But

(31:25):
do you have any thoughts?

Speaker 3 (31:26):
That's just that's just rough. It really is those like
small things that do like say a lot about who
you are and that could like it feels like a
at service level. It feels like a small situation to
like have such a dispute in your marriage.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
Or or soon to be marriage about.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
But like at the same time, she's really not being
listened to, yeah at all, I mean yeah again, he's
just flip flopping exactly. Honestly, I feel like if the
you know, he says he's going no contact now, but yeah,
how long is that could last?

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Right?

Speaker 5 (31:56):
You know?

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Right?

Speaker 5 (31:57):
But there is another update. I think it definitely is
a good idea that they postpone the marriage though, for sure,
for sure do that until you're really secure in relationship.
This has been the cherry to top off a not
so fabulous week. To everyone that so bashed my husband
private messaged me to tell me how weak pathetic I am.
Tell me I'm stupid. Trust me. You think I don't

(32:19):
get how this looks to other people. He isn't getting
away with anything.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
I know.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Seeking help and counseling looks stupid to other people, but
it's my relationship. Please respect that. Also to the vicious
people that are reading my posts and then immediately posting
them to Facebook, Slash, other websites so they can post
nasty things and try and figure out my identity, there
is a special place in Heck for you. If this
keeps up, I can't post here anymore. I have too
many people that are reaching out to me trying to

(32:43):
guess my identity, future mother in law's identity, and it's
becoming extremely stressful. The only reason I'm posting here is
to ask other ladies here for advice on dealing with
future mother in law that's getting increasingly aggressive. There's several
new things to report, one being that my fiance is
kept his end of the bargain. He's had no contact
with future mother in law. How do I know? I'm

(33:04):
religiously checking his accounts. And she's also losing her mind.
This week, I've woken up to the following. My ring
app has gone off four times, all at odd hours
of the night. It's her. I have footage of her
shoving notes under my door. Okay, a nasty note shoved
under the door, demanding to talk to my fiance, accusing
me of driving a wedge between them. And they're also
in like magazine cutout letters. Yeah. Yeah, She's like, sah,

(33:27):
you have four days, please send my son home. Text
messages asking me why I'm forbidding contact between my fiance
and his mother and how unnatural it is to stop
a son from seeing his mom. I'm going to burn
in heck, and I'm disgrace to womanhood. She's come to
my work when I refuse to see her, security escorted
her out. When I pulled out of the parking garage,
I saw her waiting by the employee entrance. Oh, she's

(33:50):
stalking you. Now, that's terrifying. Fiance and I typically go
shopping on Wednesday nights. She knows this because she's gone
with us a couple of times. Guess who was waiting
for us in the parking lot at seven pm. She's
full stocking boy wow. Wow. We didn't get out of
the car after we saw her pacing around the entrance.
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(34:37):
down off the rails. Yeah, fiance definitely needs to cut
her off, maybe for the long like in the long
run too, yeah, or just like I don't know, hey mom,
stop it. Yeah, because final fun.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
It just feels like a big jump from like, you know,
okay mom, like I'm sorry to be like okay, bye,
I don't talk to you all anymore. It's like whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa whoa. That's way way too like extreme mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
Now she's shown a lot of extreme behavior too. Yeah,
I'm documenting everything just in case she continues to get crazier. Fiancen,
I will be going to the local PD tomorrow to
file report and look into getting a temporary restraining order.
Thank you to everyone that's offered me kind words, support
and even big goods. You guys are wonderful. I really
appreciate you. And that is the end of that story. Wow.

(35:29):
Wow ee wow, what a crazy wow wow. I really
need to know some facts. You need to know. One
who pay for the dress originally? Yes?

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Are they rich?

Speaker 5 (35:39):
Because it seems like they might. I mean, I feel
like if you're paying for an eleven thousand dollars dress,
that's a lot. You gotta be rid. I'm like, three
thousand is a lot. Yeah, Now you've got to be
a little gotta have a little money.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
But I think for ope's say, cutting the mother off
is probably I feel like this is not the first
time that this behavior has been there. Yeah, it's just
the first time. It's probably direct like affected oh so much,
right with like the direct impact of the dress being run. Yeah,
but that is the end of that story.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
John here, we're gonna get back to this juicy story,
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Speaker 5 (36:11):
I banished my late mother's boyfriend after eight years of
free rent because he lied about me.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
My banish thee.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
Just like that. When I was seventeen, my mother came
into money. She tried to keep it quiet, but she
paid off my dad's debts, bought him a small house,
paid off her debts, and paid for my sister's college,
and set up funds for mine. She had a boyfriend
at the time, and shortly after him and his son,
who was seven, moved into our new house.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
By the way, this comes from not.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
Willing to share, and if you want to submit your
own stories, go to our slashokey story time subverured it
so over the next few years, Mom bought my sister
a house wow. After she graduated to college. Her boyfriend
lived with us and didn't pay anything, but he did work.
When I was twenty one, Mom got diagnosed with cancer.
It wasn't good. She sat me and my sister down

(37:03):
and went over exactly how much money there was. She
intended to give her current house to me, and both
me and my sister were left with a large sum.
At the end of it. She asked if I would
allow her boyfriend to stay in the house with his
son until he got his own place. I agreed there
should have been like some sort of like not forever
though like a mom.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Also no, also no, no, so that's a time at all?
Is that? No?

Speaker 5 (37:30):
Before she passed, she told her boyfriend he would need
to look for his own place, but had time to
save more for that journey. For the last four years,
he has continued to reside in the house with his son.
I haven't minded, because we get along. Okay. I pay
all the bills, but he does buy food for him
and his kid. No, no, what, No, This isn't your boyfriend.

(37:53):
This is your mom's boyfriend. They weren't even married mom's boyfriend.

Speaker 7 (37:58):
If I was your mom's.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
She is dated off and on and mostly kept the
women out of the house, which I respected him for
until his current partner bro.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
But literally, if you're gonna live in the house of
your of your of your decessive friend, you're not gonna
be Dayton. She in that house? Are you insane?

Speaker 5 (38:18):
She's been in my house three times, and at first,
besides feeling a little uncomfortable, I was okay with her.
Last time. This past weekend was the point where I
lost my crap. I was making myself some lunch. When
she came walking downstairs, she grabbed a plate and went
to grab food out of my pan. I asked her
what she thought she was doing. She started telling me
how I should look for somewhere else to live and

(38:40):
leeching off my deceased mom's past relationship as an adult
was pathetic.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
What else she's been lying to?

Speaker 5 (38:47):
Mmm? So the boyfriend's been freaking lying? Had she been
saying that this is his I's been saying that this
is his house and that he's just been like nice
and like letting ope live there.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Can you imagine being that? Can you imagine being that pathetic?
I can't possibly imagine that. I can imagine on a
level of patheticness. Yeah, no, get him out of there.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
I hollered for my mom's old boyfriend. He came down,
and I told him I didn't know what he currently thought,
but I wasn't going to be disrespected in my house.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
He wouldn't even.

Speaker 5 (39:19):
Look me in the eyes as he mumbled something about
my mom promising him the house and he was just
being kind letting.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Me stay first. That isn't remotely true.

Speaker 5 (39:28):
Mom pulled him and I together after she asked if
he could stay to set expectations. My mom met him
shortly before she won the money and told him and
us girls that she had.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
No intention of leaving the money.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
She did set aside a fund for his son for
college when he gets there, but he cannot touch it.
Only his son can. He has lived in this house
almost eight years without paying a dime. He should have
plenty of money, and if he doesn't, that's on him.
I told him he had thirty days to leave. I
wasn't going to house someone who would lie and disrespect
me in my house. He left that night with his son,

(40:01):
but his ex wife called to tell me I'm cruel
and an a hole for her son losing his house.
He's here every other week. What you housum girl? You
house em Oh, he has no relation to any of
the people living in her house. I really feel like
my mom didn't expect him to still be here. But

(40:23):
my sister said she feels like I'm breaking my promise
to my mom, and that made me feel like maybe
I'm the a hole. No, you're not the a hole, Obie,
You're not the a hole.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
He's been living here for four years. That's ridiculous. A
grown man who was never married to your mom and
never paying rent out for free for almost a decade.

Speaker 5 (40:42):
Comments good advice, love men, not the a hole. The
critical part here is that your mom asked you to
let him stay until he got his own place, and
to give him time to find one in that time.
Instead of looking to move somewhere else, he continued to
settle into life in the house, to the point where
he even started bringing a new girlfriend along.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
He moved on, but didn't move out.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
Him lying to her and telling her this was his
house tells you everything you need to know about his
actual intentions to leave you. Punting him out wasn't abrupt.
The clock had run out on your mother's kindness and
your obligation to her a long time ago, and he
was living there on generously borrowed time. Ninjet eight four
seven says Op's mom probably expected it to be a

(41:23):
month or two, since he's working but has no living
expenses and didn't during their relationship, not four years. Where
the heck is his money going if he can't get
his own place. Useful Language twenty forty says he had
at least four years to say before Ope's mother passed away,
Plus the four years since then, he has only been
paying for food and presumably his phone, car, insurance, fuel,

(41:45):
ETCA in that time. He should have incredibly healthy savings,
especially as he was living with his sister to save.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Up before that.

Speaker 5 (41:52):
That mother probably thought that he'd take a month or
two degree he spend a month or four looking in
earnest and be out of Opea's hair within the year. Yes,
and even that is like.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Pretty way too much for boyfriend. Yeah, come on, I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (42:05):
Like if he was saving, say, fifteen hundred dollars per
month while the mother was live, rent plus utilities and
council tax local equivalent on a two bedhouse slash flat
as has to be at least that pretty much everywhere
in what sounds like the US, right that be fifteen
hundred times twelve times four seventy two thousand dollars before
she passed the same again since then and whatever he

(42:28):
had beforehand, of course he could afford to move out
straight away. Dude should have a good one hundred and
fifty thousand minimum sitting in his bank account. That's most
definitely screw this. I'm off to a hotel to complain
to people who I can tell a very slanted version
of the story, too. Money curious, Brad says, if it
happened exactly how you said, you're not the ale. If
she did say he had time to say but would

(42:49):
need to look for his own place, that means she
never imagined or wanted him staying so long, so you're
breaking no promises. Did she leave him any money or assets?
It's totally possible that your mother would be living if
she knew her boyfriend was still living with her son
after four years and hope, he says. No. She created
a fund for his son for his college, but that
was the only money set aside for him or his son.

(43:10):
It's a generous amount enough for four years at a
high dollar school. Anything not used for school will be
given to him on his twenty fifth birthday. From what
I believe she told me, a lawyer and accountant are
in charge of those funds, not me or my sister.
So I only know what she told us before she passed.
She was never married to or even engaged to her boyfriend.
He lived with his sister and was saving for his

(43:32):
own house when Mom met him. Him moving in with
us was supposed to be temporary and allow him to
save to buy his dream home, but he never left.
My mom was like that though. She had a big heart,
and sometimes people took advantage of that, especially after the
money she brought him down. She bought him a brand
new truck when his car broke down, but beyond that

(43:54):
and smaller gifts like TV, computer, etc. For birthdays and
holiday gifts, she did not leave him money. They had
no joint accounts. My mom paid for everything, and he
was supposed to be saving for a house the whole
time they were together. Loved Nenna says, sweetheart, you're not
the able. First, I'm sorry. I'm sixty three years old
and lost my mom two years ago. You are the

(44:14):
only one who knows if you're telling the truth. It
seems very plausible to me. But if he was already
saving money for a house when he met your mom,
then lived four years with her and another four years
with you, that man is just a loser. Is there
any way your dad could come stay with you the
week he moves out. The first thing you need to
do is change all of the locks and get yourself
some sort of security system. Please don't feel bad for

(44:36):
making him leave. It seems to me that your mom
was really smart and planned things out very carefully, being
that he had already lived with her for four years.
I agree with the commenters who say she was probably
thinking a month or two, not years. If your sister
makes any more comments than you can tell her she's
welcome to let him live with her.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Exactly exactly, Yes, exactly again, So.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
Sorry for your loss. Please make sure you're safe and
take care of yourself. And Opie says, thank you so much.
My mom was the sweetest person, and when I was
a teenager, I feel like I was a nightmare to her.
I am thankful I was much better in my late
teens and twenty twenty one, so she got to see
me mature a little bit before she passed. I wasn't
always the best daughter, but she was always the best mom.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (45:17):
I think part of him letting him stay so long
is having bonded with the sun. But also I liked
having someone else around who loved my mom too. There
were nights I would wake up from a nightmare and
end up in the kitchen and he would hear me
and just come make a cup of coffee and sit
and share a story about her. His son loved mom too,
and some evenings we would get take out and watch
movies and joke about what commentary my mom would have

(45:38):
had if she.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Had seen the movie with us day.

Speaker 5 (45:42):
My sister lives a state away, so we really only
see each other once a month or so. I liked
not being alone in this big house. I do have
security system and the locks have been changed. She is
coming over tomorrow to get his stuff and that. But yeah,
I mean it might have been good for some time,
but I really don't know him anything now. This is
an adult man who has a lot of hopefully it

(46:04):
should have a lot of savings. Uh, and he needs
to figure it out himself. He can't be relying on
your mom or you ya, your mom's money forever.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Yeah. He just sounds like a little a little leech,
a little parasite that is latched on. Indeed, and regardless
of the grief y'all shared, at this point, everything that
he's ever done now is called into question because he's
lying about the house. So it was the grief a
way to manipulate you into being more in your graces.

(46:36):
Now you will never know because he has shattered the reality,
you know by being like, yeah, I wonder when she's
going to get out of my house.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
Ugh, just a disgusting what Also, it seems like you
weren't you weren't even going to kick him out before
that happened, like you were so chill. And then he
had the audacity to say this and it.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Was for the kid, and he probably knew that he
was weaponizing his kid too. Yeah, you know, people like
that guy know how to be a little, a little
I was going to say a worm, but we don't
disparage worms here. He's a little snake, thank you very much.
He's a little, excuse me, a sick, very little, sneaky
little snake. He give me a little.

Speaker 7 (47:12):
He's a little roach.

Speaker 5 (47:13):
But there is an update. I do want to take
a moment to address some things I saw in the comments. One,
there are trusts set up and neither me nor my
sister have full access to the money left us. This
was done both because my sister and I were in
our early twenties when my mom passed, and she wanted
to make sure we had some stability before we had access,
and to protect us from people who may try to
take advantage, especially while we were grieving.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Two.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
I have a lawyer. He has already informed me legally
to my area what eviction laws are and my mom's
former boyfriend will be served with formal eviction papers just
to cover myself even after today, So to the update,
my dad came over, decided not to have my boyfriend
over since he doesn't know about the money side and
I wasn't trying to have the boyfriend out the situation

(47:57):
this morning, and brought along my cousin for easier telling.
I'm going to call mom's former boyfriend. See. He showed
up a route about ten am my time and talk
to my dad, then asked if he could have a
couple minutes alone with me. Dad nodded, so my cousin
and him went into the kitchen and See and I
sat in the living room. I'll be honest, I didn't
expect it to go as as it had, but I'm

(48:19):
glad it did. See started with an apology. I don't
remember all of the words said, but the basics were,
he missed my mom, He's been lonely, but not alone
thanks to me and his son. He was sorry for
what had happened, that he got caught up and lust
you and let someone else fill his head with ideas
and that he owned up to his mistakes and should
have never put up with someone who would disrespect me

(48:40):
or my mom's memory. He tried to hand me a
cashier's check for fifteen thousand dollars. He said it wasn't much,
but he wanted me to know he appreciated me and
living with me, and that he wanted to pay back
some of what he owed.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (48:54):
I refuse the check of both in part because I
never wanted his money, but I also don't want to
give any possible legal leg for him to stay on.
If this is somehow him.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Trying to stay good. I was about to say that.
I was like, that is trap money. I'm trying to
trick you.

Speaker 5 (49:07):
I told them the first part and told them to
put it towards a house. Here you go by the way.
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Speaker 2 (49:24):
Pokey story tem put yourself over there, put yourself over there.
Put yourself in those shoes, the shoes that are little
earphones in your ears, exactly your ear shoes.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
But there is a little bit more to the story.
I would say this before we get into the west bit.
It does. I mean, if he is telling the truth,
then I think that is a good apology, and don't
accept the money. Still don't accept money.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Still don't accept that.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
But I think it's a good apology, and you just
say thank you, appreciate it, send him on his way.
If it is a lie, still don't accept the money,
and just keep an eye out for him.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Just keep an eye Ah. Yeah, I mean, I don't
think this guy illegally has has a leg to stand on,
especially if you don't take the money. He does not,
So still.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
Take the money. Yeah, you know, Okay, thank you, and
he can leave.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
I think with a different context, maybe you can accept
the money. Like if it's a guy who's like, ladies,
I'm trying to regain some honor here you are do this.
I want to pay it and move on. But he's
definitely the kind of guy who might do that and
then be like, well, see I've been paying rent.

Speaker 5 (50:23):
She paid.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Also, here's a forged document about our mom wants me
to have the house or something. Who knows.

Speaker 5 (50:31):
He told me he is living with his sister, but
is going to look at houses with the realtor next week.
He did say his son is asking about our next
hangout date and said both me and my sister are
welcome to arrange time with him. After all of that,
my dad and cousin helped him get all of the
stuff out of the house that he owned. He had
brought a U haul and he gave me back my
house keys. He apologized again and left. Not what I expected,

(50:55):
but it went really well and I feel a lot
less like I let my mom down. Comments to finish
the story off, Smooch noses I'm just being nosy, sure,
but how did the woman who thought she's getting you
punted out of your house respond.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
To it all? OPI says, no clue at my house.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
She just seems smug and witchy. I didn't ask see
about her, and honestly don't care. My house is nice,
but it's not like it's multimillion dollars or anything.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
That Karen Witch says.

Speaker 5 (51:19):
Have you said all of that stuff in the previous
post to him away from his girlfriend? Were you not
there when he grabbed her to leave? Just wondering because
I assumed it was said in front of her and
that's why she left. So easily instead of trying to
fight to make you leave. Opie says, all that got
said in front of her was that I wasn't going
to be disrespected in my house and he could have
thirty days to find new housing and she was not
welcome back. That was all I said in front of her.

(51:41):
And she kept a pissy face on but didn't say
anything to me and walked out with him. And that
is the end of that story.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
My, oh my, well, I mean that's better than I mean,
like kinda, he kind of just took care of himself.
He walked out and was.

Speaker 5 (51:58):
Like out, he apologized. That's something, you know what, regardless
of whether he's telling the truth, he's out of your hair. Yeah,
he's gone. Yeah, that's a crazy amount of time.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
To stay somewhere where you're like for each we're expected
to like just get your feedback under you and you know,
find another place, seeing as you're not married to me
and I'm really mostly just doing this because of your kid. Yeah,
he had to have known that. He had to have

(52:28):
known that. I don't get it, which makes him pro scummy.

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Speaker 2 (52:41):
My abusive mother lost her fight to cancer, but I'm
not dropping everything asap for her funeral. I mean a
lot of variables up in the air right now. We
gotta get more into this before we say anything. Yeah, okay,
So January twenty twenty five, So this is a fresh

(53:02):
one h twenties non binary. Am getting some comments and
aggressiveness from my friends and family of my late mother.
She passed away a few weeks ago from complications due
to cancer, and I live halfway across the country in
the US and could not afford to drop everything and
be there with her, which that's a passable reason to me.
By the way, this comes from user okay can seventy

(53:23):
five to seventy two, and if you want to submit
your own stories, go to the r slash okay storytime
sub read it. So she went from in the ICU
as a precaution to end of life in about four days.
I am also neurodivergent, and the nurses were ensuring me
that she wasn't that bad up until the point where
we were in the last few hours. I had a

(53:45):
very very complicated relationship with my mother. She was my
mother and on some level I loved her, but she
was not And my father passed away when I was
in high school, and he was as well, but more physically.
My mother was emotionally, mentally and financially abusive. Among some
of the things she did. Before I continue reading, I'm

(54:06):
just gonna go ahead and give a little trigger warning here.
Trigger warning. We definitely have some family dynamics as well
as the passing of parental figures. So if that's not
something you can listen to, go ahead and don't listen
to this story. There's others you can go listen to

(54:27):
right now. So among some of the things that she did,
she would let the electricity, power or phone turn off
to force me to pay the full bill plus late
fees when she could have afforded it. She hoarded and
made a mess of the house and then yelled at
me for making the messes and insisted I clean it,
and would even deny guess by telling them that I
made the house a mess, would insult and embarrass me publicly,

(54:51):
then make fun of me for being upset. Constant gaslighting.
You get the point. It all got worse when I
came out as trans I was able, with the help
of my wonderful partner, to get out of that situation
and move away. My relationship with my mother was also
very low contact for years until she was diagnosed with
cancer last spring. It was still low contact, but I

(55:14):
spoke with her more frequently and had a much better
relationship with her at a distance. Still not a great relationship,
but something that, after learning who and what she is
and how to cope with everything, was a much better
relationship than before. Anyway. After she had passed and talking
with the funeral home, I decided to have her creemated
and hold off on making further arrangements until after the

(55:36):
funeral home had copies of the death certificates. I had
made a post on social media letting people know that
when I had the arrangements made, I would make a
post about it. Here we are, almost two weeks later,
and I'm getting a lot of winter the arrangements. Why
haven't you come home? Why didn't you go see your
mom in the hospital. You know you'll regret that, right.
Why haven't you made arrangements yet? Why did you cremate her?

(55:58):
She should have been buried. I even had someone call
me selfish for making others wait to mourn. But why
was OP he made in charge of any of this?

Speaker 5 (56:07):
I'm confused actually, And well, yeah, one, why why does
OP have to do this? Yeah, and to just like
the fact that anyone thinks that they have the right.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
A lot of these people who are upset with me
are people who haven't talked to my mother in years.
And my mother had made no plans for arrangements. She
also hadn't gotten any sort of life insurance despite me
asking her to not gonna lie. I still can't afford
to fly halfway across the country for this funeral. But
I also have a bunch of stuff that I will
need to do in person. There I'm going to have

(56:37):
to crowdfund to be able to afford to go to
my own mother's funeral. Someone told me to sell my
mother's house to afford to go to the funeral. That
I should be ashamed for even considering crowdfunding.

Speaker 5 (56:49):
To to sell your mother's house to go to the funeral.
That person is insane. Anyone who is talking to you
should shut up, because.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Wow, why don't you sell your house?

Speaker 5 (56:59):
Buddy?

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Yeah, why don't you? That's ridiculous. Who's why is the
person who couldn't go to the hospital? Why is why
is this person in charge? Who has made op in charge?
Is she the only descendant?

Speaker 5 (57:11):
They?

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Are they the only descendant? What is this? I'm not
sure they understand how long it takes to go through probate,
even though I am the sole inheritor. Am I the
a hole? Or would I be the a hole for
any of this? For all of it?

Speaker 5 (57:24):
I mean, you're not the ahole for not being able
to afford this. Yeah, it's just like you can't afford it,
and that as simple as that to You also had
a complicated relationship with your mother, so the fact that
anyone thinks that they have a right to tell you
how to feel and what to do is ridiculous. None
of this is making any sense.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Yeah, so I'm getting a lot of comments, a lot
more than I thought, and a lot quicker than I
thought I would. So I'm going to clarify a few things.
My mom did have a will. I actually do have
a copy of it. I have already contacted the attorney
who my mom worked with on it. They want some
information that I don't currently have access to and won't
be able to get access to until I have death

(58:04):
certificates or until I can go there and check her house.
I'm the only child and the only living immediate relative, which,
now that makes sense. Why OP is the one handling this.
My mom had people she referred to as cousins, but
as far as I'm aware, they're not actually related. My
mom was also older, in her mid sixties. My mom

(58:25):
was older when she had me. I'm twenty six, she
was sixty five. During her treatment, I did take a
short trip, paid by others to see her during a
point of not knowing if she would recover. So you
did see her, Yeah, and that so all those people
saying that are now stupid, moot, That's not what happened.
She was bedridden and for lack of better words, not

(58:47):
really there. She did recover and then recently went back downhill.
Seeing all of the people saying that I'm not obligated
to have a funeral legitimately makes me feel better. Like
ninety percent of the people my mom new at her
age or older at it, for I very much sugarcoated
the type of person my mom was, And I feel
like I need to specify that most people don't know

(59:10):
what My relationship with my mother was actually, like everyone
thinks she was a wonderful person, she painted me as
a bad child even before I moved out and moved away.
I've not used my previous name in nearly seven years,
and she would still call me by this name and
stuff to people behind my back. She only tried when

(59:31):
it was convenient for her. She was still blaming the
state of her house on me, despite the fact I
haven't lived there in years. They say that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (59:40):
I mean, that's crazy to be like, yeah, oh pe making,
it's so dirty, and everyone's like, oh are they like
are they still living there? And the mom's like no,
but but it's their fault.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Yeah, truly. I mean, when once hording gets involved, it's
like it's brain wise. It's like there are there are
no rational thoughts about the mess that are made. It's impossible.
They say, do not speak ill of those who are gone.
But if I do have a funeral or any sort
of gathering in her honor, I will be saying my peace,

(01:00:11):
because sometimes in order to move on and heal, you
need to speak ill of those who wronged you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:16):
At the have you seen Brooklyn nine nine?

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
No, But Okay, I'm calling that one a red flag
honestly my reference. No oh, another edit here? First, thank
you for all the comments. It's very hard. So how
many of you want updates? We do because I woke
up to learn about people back in my hometown starting
some crap and spreading rumors. Comment number one, not the
a hole. Ask them how much they're going to contribute

(01:00:40):
to the funeral and to fly you home facts. That's
a good one. Uh oh, P replies this is legitimately
something I will be doing. I'm waiting for death certificates,
but once the funeral home has taken them, I will
be talking potential costs and dates, plane tickets, hotels, covering
my personal expenses and missed work, et cetera, adding everything
up and making a way for people to put money

(01:01:01):
towards it. Just don't, I don't know, don't do it. Yeah,
you don't have to have a funeral, Yeah, ceremony or
she's crazy to me, you didn't visit your terminally ill
mother and then failed to give her a timely funeral.
You are the a hole, And only on Reddit would
the majority verdict be anything other than you're the a hole.
What which again? It's like there's an entire relationship that

(01:01:26):
we are not clued into. And also, okay, Opie, let's
just hear Opie's reply. Okay, cool. If you think I'm
the a hole, are you going to pay for the funeral?
You're going to pay the thousands of dollars for me
to go there? It's like, yeah, it's money reality. A
lot of people are like, ah, dang, all right, well,
I mean I guess I'll become unemployed and lose all

(01:01:47):
my income and also spend all this money. Then I'll
never get back. And it's kind of by the way,
it's for a woman who's not abused me in my childhood.

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
That, but not a lot like why are you trying
to go and why are you trying to make someone
go into debt for a person who's not alive.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Yeah she's not Hey, she's not gonna care.

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
She can't care.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Yep. So there's a reply to that, like, seriously ignore
things like this. There are people who want to believe
that DNA creates an unbreakable bond of obligation regardless of
but it's funny how most of the people who insist
on that eternal obligation are the ones who demand to
benefit from it and not contribute. And here's the update

(01:02:30):
update January twenty seventh, five. So, in the original post,
I gave the cliff Notes version of my mother's abuse
and the whole situation with her. My partner's reaction when
they read this was, wow, you really sugarcoated that, which
I mean. I guess people don't understand that. She literally said.
They literally sorry, I keep miss gender. They literally like

(01:02:54):
were like, I'm sugarcoating this, and they say not to
speak ill of yeah who have passed or whatever. So
I guess I won't.

Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
Yeah, And everyone's like, why are you not going to
your mother?

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Like it's like, guys, use your brain. She slam dunked
on me my whole childhood. Are we doing us your blame?
My mother was performatively supportive of me, so everyone thinks
she was a wonderful person. A lot of the people
messaging me have no idea that I have gone by
a different name for nearly seven years, because if I
wasn't there, she uh misnamed me and misgendered me to people.

(01:03:29):
People mentioned therapy in the comments of the last post.
I've been in and out of therapy for years, but
I struggled to find a therapist who actually works for me.
I'm very self aware of my issues and what I'm
struggling with. As a result, therapists tend to shrug off
issues as I logically know how to deal with them. Anyways,
now for the update. I woke up a few days

(01:03:49):
after posting my original post to a message from a
family member. Apparently one of my no contact family members,
a grandmother and two aunts on my dad's side, is
telling people that I haven't done anything with my mother's
body yet, basically telling people that I just left her
at the morgue to rot, which some of y'all probably
think that's less than my mother would deserve. So despite

(01:04:09):
the fact that there are people who know that I
had my mother cremated, I've been getting crappy messages about that.
Said family members also will not be allowed at the
funeral if I end up having one. It's one of
the few requests my mom actually made, and even if
she hadn't, I wouldn't want them there. Good News should
have death certificates by the end of this week. I'm
going to be looking for a new attorney for filing probate.

(01:04:31):
I called to ask for resources and help in getting
the information they want, and basically got told to just
look through my mother's mail. I'm out of state and
hundreds of miles away due to some stuff that happened
while my mother was going through treatment. There isn't really
anyone I trust to do that for me. So basically
the probate attorney I was talking to told me they
couldn't help me and to just figure it out. People

(01:04:53):
have already started messaging me about buying things of my
mom's and don't seem to understand that I can't legally
sell anything. After probate has started, I've learned exactly what
sort of condition that house is in from a family
member who is a contractor. It's about what I expected
and likely we just need to be torn down. Yeah, again,
this is a hoarder house. This is a hoarding house.

(01:05:14):
The attorney being like, oh, yeah, just go there and
get it out of your mom's mail. It's like you
what do you wear? Which male?

Speaker 5 (01:05:21):
What male?

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Where male?

Speaker 5 (01:05:22):
People have like really no understanding of what opey situation
is and are giving a lot of advice that is
just very uninformed, Like, is there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Any way we can do it without the mail that
is probably unfindable. Yeah, let's be honest. I did call
and I turned off the utilities. A pipe had already
burst in the house while my mom was in the hospital,
and there's no one there, so maybe the cold will
actually finish off the bugs. Finally, I doubt it. People

(01:05:52):
are still being judgy about me not dropping everything and
waiting to have a funeral. People are also trying to
argue semantics over the costs of travel and stuff. Like
my original notice to everyone on social media happened during
holiday travel when last minute plane tickets were over one
thousand dollars. People are now two weeks later looking up
prices on my behalf and then being judgy because it's
only like five hundred dollars now, which is not nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:06:15):
Also, yeah, one not nothing. Also price has changed all
the time, so it's like, why are you they.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Also the people arguing with me also don't seem to
understand that I literally can't afford it because I live
paycheck to paycheck. That is all I've got For the moment.
I have a feeling crap's gonna hit the fan, either
at the funeral or if I tell people I've decided
not to have a funeral or anything. Sorry if this
is a little all over the place between this situation

(01:06:40):
and just everything going on in the country, I'm just
so tired. Edit for anyone who missed it or is
suggesting donating to science, I had my mother cremated. For
those suggesting that I wash my hands of the whole situation,
her house, property and what not has the potential to
be worth it monetarily. Even after paying her debts, the
house and vehicles are all paid off. For anyone who

(01:07:03):
thinks that is selfish or something, my mom literally stole
money from me for years. I'm struggling financially living paycheck
to paycheck and could use the money from the estate.
Comments before we go into it, like, honestly, the house
being fully paid off does change things as well. Like
I guess depending on how bad the hoarding situation.

Speaker 5 (01:07:19):
Is, it's just like how much to fix it up?

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Yeah, and do you want to get a team go
in there and clean? That could be worth it. But
also like you don't live there and that's not where
your work is. But if your current living paycheck to paycheck,
you might want to consider moving into that house because
now you don't have to pay rent, and whatever job
you have that's barely paying you enough to exist, you
could probably get a similar job out there. But at

(01:07:43):
the same time, you know, selling all of that as
a lot can also give you money to you know,
have a foundation to build off of. Yeah. Comments Uh,
why did you have to go into probate if she
had a will? Ope replies, I believe her state re
recquires it. She also has debts and stuff that need
to be settled out of the estate. Comment two has

(01:08:05):
have someone reliable get a locksmith to change the locks
on the house. If you haven't already, things might start
walking away before you can get there. Comment three not
the ahole. I mean a funeral personally to me doesn't
make a whole lot of sense in this scenario, and
it sounds like she probably wouldn't have wanted a funeral anyway,
and if she did, she didn't plan one. So you
can always just release some sort of statement on social

(01:08:27):
media saying, per your mom's request, there won't be a funeral,
and she's been cremated and you'll spread her ashes somewhere
or something, and at this time you will not be
getting rid of any of her things got the house
is because the house is closed up for repairs. There
is no reason for you to stop your life where
you're at right now, because, like you said, you have
to go through probate. Of course, you can go to

(01:08:49):
the house and do things, but it's not something that
has to be done right now. I would definitely make
a plan or a trip to go there though, and
make a weekend of clean out the house or something.
But ultimately that house can be a great rental opportunity
for you also, especially since it's paid off, or you
can sell it if there's too much drama. I advice.

Speaker 5 (01:09:11):
Yeah, exactly what we said.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
A fully paid off house in this world is like
a incredible, a valuable asset. Ope replies, I do have
to go there because currently, in order to start probate,
I need to take inventory of my mother's things and accounts.
I also need to find some things of mine. I
need to find her devices so I can get her
phone and stuff turned off and returned. I need those

(01:09:34):
death certificates to get to go to her bank, et cetera.
We have another update, woo, So is OPI gonna try
to keep the house or not. I don't know what
do we think.

Speaker 5 (01:09:43):
I think, just just guessing, I think they're gonna I
think they're gonna sell it.

Speaker 7 (01:09:46):
I think I think at this point for OP they
just want to sell it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:09:50):
They are living paycheck to paycheck.

Speaker 5 (01:09:52):
Yeah, I think it's a mental burden as well for them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
January first five. First of all, thanks for the support
of my last two posts. If you want to help
Fairther during this time, advice is still appreciate it. Also,
don't feel obligated. So I finally talked with a competent
probate attorney. I'm still waiting on death certificates from the
funeral home, but once I have them, we should be
able to file and start the probate period. She wants

(01:10:17):
to get all that going before I go out there
for anything. I made a social media post and whoever
was spreading rumors either shut up real quick or just
got more careful about it.

Speaker 5 (01:10:26):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
And by the way, uh, when we shut up real quick,
you don't have to live in that silence because you
can go listen to full episodes with stories just like
this one. All you gotta do is go to Spotify
or Apple Podcasts. Are you get your podcast and her
showcase Storytime.

Speaker 5 (01:10:42):
Alternatively, we never shut up. If you listen to full episodes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
There you go. Yeah. Literally, what is silence? You don't
need silence?

Speaker 5 (01:10:51):
I need it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
You can listen to us.

Speaker 5 (01:10:52):
Silence is boring. You can silences for movie theaters and
for funerals and l neither.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Who's this guy? Oh? Who's that guy?

Speaker 5 (01:11:01):
Go?

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
I have fang hair?

Speaker 7 (01:11:04):
What is this the nineteen nineties?

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
No, I don't know. In my last two posts, pretty
much everyone has said that a funeral can wait exactly,
a funeral is not necessary, or that my mom doesn't
deserve one. This leads to my second goal in the
go of on me. As horrible as my mom was,
she was still my mom, and some part of me
loved her, or at least who I hoped she could be.
I think I might need a funeral or something. At

(01:11:28):
least I can't explain why. I will say, I am
only going to put myself through that if I can
raise the money to cover everything. There's so much going
on for me personally and so much going on in
the country that I know I won't be able to
handle it if I can't eliminate the financial burden. Some
of y'all may think because of this that it makes
me an a hole to myself. And I get that
if there's a funeral there will certainly be drama, as

(01:11:51):
there are some people who will be told they aren't
welcome to a tent. If you want to hear an
update about that, let me know.

Speaker 5 (01:11:57):
For now.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
I appreciate you all, and I gotta say, oh pee,
if you feel like you need this thing to be
done for you, just do it for you like you don't.
None of these people just obligated to be there. Nope,
do what you need to do for you. That said,
a funeral doesn't have to be a service. It can
be a gathering of people getting together in someone's home

(01:12:20):
or at a restaurant. It can be you lighting a
candle in front of a picture of your mom. Any
act that you put some consideration into will do. Doing
some sort of funeral action or ritual provides closure for
the living. So please don't feel bad about doing what
you need to do for you. That said, as someone
who had to cut contact with my mother, you are
so right when you say some part of me loved her,

(01:12:42):
or at least who I hoped she could be. When
we lose a relationship, with an abutif person or when
they pass, what we grieve is what we'd hoped we
could have some day with them. It's okay to grieve
that good luck, and that is the end of that story.

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