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00:00 r/BORUpdates - My mother-in-law cut my hair in my sleep because she thought I cheated on my husband
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:12):
My mother in law ruined my hair in my sleep
because she thought I was cheating on her son.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Just cut off her hair.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Yeah, easy eye for an eye. So I'm still processing this,
but I need to get it off my chest. Last
night I woke up and realized someone had destroyed my hair.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
This is a woman's worst night.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
I mean, would you like to have your hair shade off?

Speaker 1 (00:33):
No? Is it exclusive to women? That a not but
it is more extreme for women.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
I guess it's there's a if you have long hair.
By the way, this comes from ev Stevie on the
Okay Storytime suburt it so one side is a jagged
pixie cut and the other side hangs awkwardly past my shoulder.
First I thought I was losing my mind. Maybe I
sleep walked or something, but no. I confronted my husband
Tim because he's been acting weird lately, but he denied it.

(00:57):
Then he drops the bombshell. My mom might have done it.
He was in on it.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
He was so in on it he knew.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah. Apparently, my mother in law, let's call her Diane,
is convinced I've been cheating on Tim. Why because last
week she saw me having lunch.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
With the coworker with his side sitting though for the.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Record, the coworker, Kyle, is gay, and we were literally
talking about work. But Diane decided I must be having
an affair, and instead of you know, talking to me
or Tim, she broke into our house in the middle
of the night with scissors and went full Edward's scissor
hands on my hair. That's insane.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
I don't believe this is real.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
I mean, no, peace convinced it is. This morning, I
confronted her. At first, she played innocent, but when I
pressed her, she literally said, well maybe now you'll think
twice before our humiliating my son. I was fuming. I
told her Kyle isn't even into women, but she just
rolled her eyes and said something like that's what they all.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Say, they they're all gay these days.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
I didn't even know how to respond to that level
of delusion. Tim is horrified and apologetic, but I'm struggling here.
This woman violated my personal space, destroyed my hair, and
acted like she was in the right. I want to
go no contact with her, but him is stuck between
me and his mom, and I feel like this is
going to be a huge blow up in our marriage.
Any advice, because I'm honestly at a loss year and

(02:17):
there isn't at it.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Oh that was a short one.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
There's more, Okay, there's there's so much more to this story.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
The fact that he is at all like, I don't
know which way to go. There's you know, there's good
guys on both sides. I don't know. Well he's saying, he's.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Like always caught between his mom and Opie. His mom
literally cut her hair off. I'd be like, Mom, that's
insane of you.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I don't think Opie is saying. He's not saying that.
I think he's just like, how do I navigate these
two very important relationships and one is very much in
the wrong.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, I don't know. I feel like he's got some
some hard boundaries for sure, personally conspiracy theory. I think
he's in on it. I think I think his reaction
to one, Yeah, knowing that she was like the most
likely culprit and then being like, oh, I don't know
which one to choose. I think he's in on it.
I think he thought she was cheating.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
What do you think here?

Speaker 2 (03:10):
It sounds like again he's like, my mom may have
done it.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, that is very suspicious where he's like at first
he was like, I don't know, and then he's like, okay,
like she does this thing when she's angry.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
How did she break into the house. But there is
an edit. My husband and I will be going to
my mother in law tomorrow to talk to her about
the situation again. Hopefully everyone will be calmed down by
then and I won't have to threaten legal action. Thank
you all for the support and suggestions. I will keep
them in mind. Edit number two to everyone saying this
is fake, I don't know how to make you believe me,

(03:42):
and honestly, I shouldn't have to send us a picture
of your hair.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Send it, do it.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
I'm sitting here crying in my friend's guest room, completely broken,
trying to make sense of how my life has fallen
apart in the span of twenty four hours. My husband,
the person I thought I could trust the most, betrayed
me in the most humiliating way possible. His mother violated
me in my sleep, and now strangers are telling me
my pain isn't real. I wish with everything in me
that this wasn't real. I wish I wasn't sitting here

(04:08):
trying to figure out how to rebuild my life, how
to ever trust someone again, or how to even face
the people around me after this, I've barely eaten. I've
been shaking all day, and I feel like my world
is crumbling beneath me. I turned to red It because
I don't know where else to go. I need advice,
a sense of support, something to help hold myself together.
But these accusations, they're just making me feel even more alone.

(04:28):
Look what you've done, Alex, help what helank you? If
you can't believe me, fine, but please don't make this
harder than it is. I wouldn't wish this pain on anyone.
And there is an update update. My mother in law
cut my hair in my sleep because she thought I
cheated on my husband, and.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Now I've found out my husband helped her. I was
freaking right. I did not believe that you didn't believe me.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
I believe your friends.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
It's not your opinion. Wow, Okay, well I was right,
so jokes on you.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Out of the conversation we had with Diane this morning,
I know my husband Tim was acting weird. At first,
I thought it was just guilt about standing up to
his mom, but it felt like more than that. He's
been avoiding eye contact and getting defensive when I bring
up what happened earlier. I couldn't take it anymore. So
I sat him down and told him he needed to
be one hundred percent honest with me about everything. That's

(05:18):
when he dropped the bombshell. Apparently Diane didn't come up
with the haircut idea on her own.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
That's even why he's like, ohg idea.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Not like it's not even that he was involved in it,
Like he was a you know, an accomplice. He was
the mastermind.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
He was the villain mastermind.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Tim admitted that he knew about it ahead of time
and even helped her planet and even helped her. I
felt like I'd been punched in the stomach.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
He said he.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Truly thought I was cheating on him with Kyle, my
gay coworker, because Diane had convinced him that there was
too much evidence to ignore when she suggested cutting my
hair is some kind of weird punishment. He didn't stop her.
In fact, he led her into our house that night
while I was sleeping.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
No, no, no, not.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
You immediately have to get divorced. Tim said he didn't
want to confront me directly because he wasn't ready for
the truth, so instead he let his mother do this
insane thing to me, thinking it would force me to
come clean. Afterward, when I didn't admit to cheating, he
started realizing that he might have been wrong. He kept saying,
I'm so sorry. I was just confused, but I honestly

(06:20):
don't know how to process this. This wasn't just Diane
acting like a lunatic. This was both of them and
my own husband betrayed me in one of the most
humiliating ways possible. I packed a bag and am staying
with a friend tonight, and while I figure out what
to do, I don't know if I can ever trust
him again after this. It's not just the haircut, it's
the fact that he didn't talk to me, believed the
worst about me without any proof, and actively participated in

(06:43):
something so cruel and violating. As for Diane, she's officially
deceased to me. I've already told Tim that I don't
want her in my life ever again, regardless of what
happens between us. Right now, I'm torn.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Part of me.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Wants to file a police report on both of them
for what they did, but I'm scared of how messy
we'll get. Another part of me just wants to cut
ties and move on, but that feels like letting them
off too easy. I don't know what my next step is,
but I do know this. I deserve better than this.
That's incredibly lowbar.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
That is the truth. You do deserve better than that.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Thank you to everyone who has supported me through this.
Your comments and advice have meant the world, and I'm
truly grateful for the kindness and understanding. It's helping me
find the strength to figure out what comes next. And
there is an update.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
But what do you think OP should do one? I
think that we all have the capacity for some craziness.
Especially I'm not justified. Let me finish not justifying his
behavior in the slightest Sure we all have the capacity
for craziness. It seems like he thought his whole world

(07:46):
was crumbling beneath his feet. Yeah, and his wife was
cheating on him, and he sought out something wild. There's
like a hell, Mary, I don't know his thought process
on op side is so correct, like how could you
trust someone exactly? Ever? Again? Who when they believe they
are being wronged in the relationship, they will go to

(08:07):
extreme measures in ways that literally violate you. Yeah, instead
of me to get instead of communicating. So, as OP,
I don't understand how you could ever trust that person
again exactly.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah. Outside, she's deciding whether or not to divorce him.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah. Yeah. As an outsider, I could have a slight
amount of empathy, I'd be like, damn, I was crazy,
but like we're all kind of crazy. But as OP, like,
I don't see a road back to trusting or forgiving
that person.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, no, I agree. I think that I think she
has to kind of divorce him. But there is another update.
I think I'm going to divorce him and I may
file a police report. After everything that's happened, I've been
thinking a lot about my next steps, and I've come
to a heartbreaking but necessary conclusion. I don't think there's
any coming back from this. I trusted Tim with my heart,

(08:57):
my safety, my life, and he betrayed me in ways
I never thought possible. I can't imagine a future where
I feel safe with him, where I can trust him,
or where I don't carry the weight of this violation
every time I'm strongly considering filing for divorce. The thought
of staying with him feels unbearable, But at the same time,
I can't stop worrying about the messiness of it all.
I just want to cut ties completely, to walk away

(09:18):
and rebuild my life without him or his mother dragging
me down any further. As for filing a police report,
I'm leaning toward it, but I'm scared of what it
might bring. I know what they did was a crime.
My own husband led his mother into our home to
me in my sleep, But the thought of dealing with
legal battles or even just having to relive this again
and again in statements is exhausting. Yeah, part of me

(09:39):
wants to hold them accountable, but another part just wants
to run far away and never look back.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
That's what I was thinking, like, would this just be
out of punishment and is there a possibility that you.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Actually might more harness yourself, do.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
More harm to yourself, and punish yourself in the process.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yeah, I had to try and get a police report.
When my car got hit in a parking garage, Like I,
I've never found out who it was, and it was
so annoying going through like the police and then the
security and filing the report and never getting anything back
about it. And so I can only imagine that this
is like twenty degrees harder. So yeah, it's just up

(10:16):
to where you're at right now. Right now, I'm taking
it one step at a time. I've been talking to friends,
trying to find some clarity and all of this chaos.
It's terrifying and painful, but I know one thing for sure.
I deserve so much better than this. Yes, thank you
to everyone who has shown me kindness and support. It
means the world to me.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Right now, there's two text messages. I'm going to pull
them up on the Okay.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Text messages we have presumably from Ope. I need you
to be honest with me. Did you know what mother
in law was going to do? And the Opie's husband says,
I didn't think it would go this far?

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Opie says that is not an answer. Did you know
she was planning to cut my hair? The husband says
she was upset? Okay, she kept saying you needed to
learn a lesson, but I did think she would actually
do it, He responds, learn a lesson? Are you hearing
yourself right now? She told you she was going to
do it, and you still let her in. I thought
maybe she'd cool down after talking to you.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I called BS liar.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
She told you she wanted to teach me about lesson
by cutting my hair, and you thought it would be fine.
What is wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (11:21):
I didn't think she actually go through with.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
It, but you didn't stop her either. You didn't warn me,
didn't protect me. You just let it happen.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
I didn't know how to handle it.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Okay, she was so worked up, but I didn't want
to make things worse.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
And then there's another text message. I'll pull it up
to this.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Is this is not I'm calling BS. It's a lie. Yeah,
it's a lie. If your mother is saying I'm gonna
go in and cut her hair and you're like in
your head thinking I'm gonna let her in and they're
gonna have a nice conversation.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah, and then you don't like go into the room.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
To check and protect your partner.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
For this one. Have Sophia read the blue and then
Alex read.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Those Okay, worse, How could it possibly get worse? You knew,
you knew she was going to do it, and you
let her.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
I didn't mean for happened like this, but it did happen.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
And now I'm sitting here, humiliated, betrayed, and wondering how
I'm supposed to ever trust you again.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
I'm sorry, I really am with one L.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Sorry doesn't fix this. Sorry does it make me feel
in my own safe, in my own home anymore.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
I don't know who you are anymore.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
I need space to figure this out.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Blank, Please just come home and we could talk about this.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
No, you made your choice and now I'm gonna make mine,
and she walks out.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Damn my god, Mike freakin drop and op.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
He continues, I'm going through an incredibly traumatic situation and
I don't know what my legal options are. My mother
in law entered my home in the middle of the night,
with my husband's knowledge and cut my hair while I
was sleeping. She did this because she believed I was cheating.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
I confronted my husband, while he didn't outright admit to
planning this, and he essentially confessed to knowing what his
mom intended to do, and letting her into our house
that night. I'm planning to leave him and in seriously
considering filing both a police report for assault on my
mother in law and a report against my husband for
enabling her. Would this conversation be enough to support filing
or a police report for what happened?

Speaker 1 (13:02):
I think so.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
I mean, if that's what OPI wants to do, I
think that that's a lot of proof.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
I'm not I have no idea about legality. I'll say that,
but he didn't say I knew she was gonna do
this and I let her in.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
But does confirm that she did it? Could it help
me in a divorce if I decided to pursue one?
Is it worth consulting a lawyer? Even if I'm not
one hundred percent sure about filing a report yet? And
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Speaker 1 (13:33):
Just have her profile.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
We're probably live right now. I've documented everything, photos of
my hair, text messages with my husband, and written down
the timeline of events. I just don't know if this
conversation would actually hold up his evidence, since he doesn't
outright admit to anything, but heavily implies it. Any advice
is appreciated. I'm feeling law scared and overwhelmed right now,
and that is the end of that story.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
I am divorcing my husband even after his cancer die. Ooh,
I know, oh that the title sounds really bad, but
please hear me out. I am new on Reddit. This
is my first post and English is not my first language,
so this will be a long one and I'll try
to explain everything as good and short as I can.
I forty two year old female and married to my husband,

(14:20):
forty nine year old male for almost twelve years. We
met online and soon started dating. He did everything for me.
We texted every day because we had a long distance relationship,
and saw each other on weekends. He came to me
because I have no driving license and no car and
still don't have that. Depending how far it was, that
was a lot for him to go every time. By

(14:42):
the way, this comes from you dash Karma service turtle
on the r dash Okay storytime subreddit. So he has
long hair, blue eyes, and best of all, two cats.
Long story short. I fell in love and he proposed
to me after three months. Whoa so early. That's the thing.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Sometimes you go really quick and then you find out
down the line that they're not who you thought they were.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
You start off really quick, and then you end really quick. Unfortunately,
that should have been the first red flag, but I
didn't know any better at the time about love bombing.
We got engaged, I moved to his city. He introduced
me to his friends and everyone welcomed me very nice.
My mother in law the first time we met, said
just call me mom, and I really liked her. She
was always nice and kind to me, and so were

(15:28):
his sister, his niece, and my brother in law. Over
a year after our engagement, we got married. I was
so proud to have his last name, and he was
happy with me, or so I thought. One of his friends,
Miranda A Fick name, was really good at crocheting, and
she had her own blog or still has, I don't know.
We're also friends on social media at the time. Then
my grandma passed away. I was devastated. She had dementia

(15:50):
and was not in a good condition. She passed away
shortly after my birthday and was buried only two days
before Christmas. Christmas is my very favorite time of the year.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
That's really hard.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
At that time, I was married for two and a
half years. I posted on social media about the loss
of my grandma. Miranda saw the post and condolenced me,
but shortly after she contacted my husband and told him
that she didn't think that this was appropriate and how
dare I do something like that, et cetera. What okay?
So one of his friends, Yeah, was like, saw the

(16:22):
post about Opie's grandma, was like, this is inappropriate about her? What? Yeah,
Opie posted about her grandma passing Like how damned?

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Was like?

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Reached out to Opie's husband and was like, how dare
your wife? He agreed, and he agreed. I did not
understand that because Miranda had written about one of her
grandparents passing away on her blog around the same time.
I think it was like only one of us can
talk about are passing away grandparents. In their messages, both
of them ranted about me. At that time. I didn't

(16:53):
know anything about that, but his phone rang and rang
and rang, so I wanted to know who he was
talking with. I demanded to tell me what was going on.
He showed me the messages between him and Miranda. I
was furious. They had not only been ranting about me,
they also made jokes about my situation.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
You're like, oh, oh, he's Grandma's best way.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
It's so embarrassed, loser.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Who are these like cartoon villains?

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Literally? I told him to cut all contact with Miranda
or I would divorce him ultimatum here, and that he
needs to apologize to me for his really bad behavior.
And how dare he making fun of me and my
grandma's passing away? So he deleted her number. It took
a month for me to forgive him and to move on.
How could you move on if you don't understand. That's

(17:41):
why I don't think it's like I'm gonna punish him.
I'm gonna cut this person off.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
You've put a band aid over it, put a band aid.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
And you have a wound. It's still festering and you
don't know why. So you don't trust your partner.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
You haven't solved anything.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, second red flag a big one. I know now
have left him right then and there. Fast forward a
few years, I cut all contact to my family. I
only have my sister now, who I love so dearly
because of issues that got more and more over the years.
It was better for me and my husband agreed. My
sister and I have always been targets for my mother
and enough was enough worth a complete separate post. So

(18:20):
four years after my Grandma's passing away, my Grandpa passed away.
Oh this is so sad. I loved him so much.
We regularly called each other, and whenever he went on
a small vacation he set me postcards. One day, I
got a call from my oldest brother and he told
me after my grandfather passed away at the hospital that
day after heart surgery, and after a week they decided

(18:41):
to stop the life support machines because my grandpa would
have passed away anyway. I didn't even know that he
was in the hospital. No one had told me or
my sister. I can't describe how I felt. And I
had to call my sister to tell her what had
just happened. We both cried on the phone. My mother
decided to set the date for the funeral on my
sixth wedding anniversary. It was a Saturday, and I guess

(19:05):
she took that date so everyone could attend and not
have to take a day off work. So I tried
not to hold that against her. I asked my husband,
after all my mother had done to me, to please
stand by me and comfort me. He said, yes, of course.
First thing he did at the funeral was to hug
my mother tight, and during the funeral not even bothered
to take my hand or comfort me. Is this after

(19:27):
the Miranda situation?

Speaker 3 (19:28):
This is after the Marnin This is four years after
the Miranda situation, and it seems like they haven't fixed anything.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Really, Oh, he said, my husband didn't even take my
hand to comfort me, but my sister did. Third massive
red flag here, but I did not even recognize it
at first because it was so so sad, and my
sister was there for me. Fast forward to August twenty
twenty two. This is getting important for later. A warm
August Saturday morning, around nine am, I got a call

(19:55):
from my friend Sandra. I picked up the phone and
said hi and laughed because I was happy to hear
from her. She had two little kids and a mom
that required care, so I not often got the chance
to talk to her, and she lived in another state.
But on the phone was not Sondra, it was my sister.
I could barely hear her because she was crying very hard.
My alarm bells went off and I asked my sister

(20:16):
what happened. She told me Sandra had passed away that morning.
She was thirty nine years old and she had what
two child kid. I was in shock, complete shock. I
won't go into details here, but it was ruled natural
passing away. As you can imagine, I started crying and
I thought about the kids and the widower. Just oh

(20:37):
my god, No, that can't be real. No, I could
start crying right now. It still hurts as if it
was just today that it happened. Her funeral was a
few weeks later, and my husband and I took a
few days off of work to attend the funeral. Everybody
was there, also my ex best friend. We haven't talked
to each other for over a year at that time,
but I was the one who called her and told

(20:58):
her about Sandra's passing. Are in contact again since then? Okay,
the funeral. My husband decided to not sit next to
me during the funeral. Yes, you read that right, and
not comfort. I don't get that. I don't understand what
is at this point? Does your husband hate you? Yeah?
Or does he? Is he just so uncomfortable with showing

(21:19):
with passing away. Yeah, doesn't know how to comfort comfort
his wife.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Because this is insane. This is insane behavior too. Not once,
but two times at like actually three three times. This
is the third time, not be able to comfort someone
who is mourning.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Home Again, I asked him why he didn't comfort me again,
he told me that I am a grown up woman
and I have to deal with it on my own,
and that I'm not his priority. As you can imagine,
I cried every fricking single night, and he had the
audacity to tell me that end quote. Yes I heard
you crying, end quote, and didn't do anything. What a

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piece of crap. Now here comes the kicker. One day
before or one day after the funeral, he exchanged numbers
with another woman I didn't know. Nine months later I
caught wind of it because his phone rang very often.
I asked him who this was and who he was
riding with. He stupidly showed me the chat.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Thing.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
He's like, he's like, here you go.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
He doesn't care. The thing is that we've seen multiple times.
It seems like he's like, oh, like he's doing this
and like doesn't realize or he's like trying to hide it.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
No, seems like it just doesn't care.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
He doesn't care about you at all.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Like given pain left and right, and like whatever, you.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Don't deserve to be comforted. I'm cheating?

Speaker 1 (22:35):
What of it? What of it? Assuming He and Tessa
fake name met during the days of the funeral, and
his first words in the chat were quote, Hi, little one,
I finally have your number. I just overflowed the chat
and at one point I read that he complimented her
on her beautiful hair. You need to know that my

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hair started falling out massively after I got the news
of Sondra because the shock, and my husband knew that
very well. I went to the doctor to get checked,
but everything was okay. It was definitely because of the shock.
He comforted her because of some stress with her boyfriend
at the time. Also, as you can imagine, I went ballistic.
Not even that he told me, I'm a grown up

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woman who needs to deal with the death of my
beloved friend on my own. I'm not his priority. No,
he thought it was a really good idea to give
some b his number and comfort her because some relationship issues.
I mean, what the F And I asked him why
he comforted her and not me. He entered quote, she
had a bad time and needed help. Yep, he really

(23:37):
said that right into my face. Guess what happened. I
slapped him hard got I was so devastated and angry.
How could he do something like that to me. I
never had any suspicion of what he was capable of
doing something like that. I always trusted him completely. What
a fool I was. No, you just trust your partner

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as you should trust a partner, not this partner, that
part Please, don't trust this partner. Don't trust this one.
And again. I should have let him there and then again,
but I didn't. Tessa lived a few states away, so
I could be sure that nothing physical ever happened between them,
but it was still a betrayal. He swore to never
ever gave his number to another woman, and to ask
me if he would met some new friends, if it

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would be okay, if numbers would be exchanged. In January
this year, he went to rehab because of some back
pain issues. During that time, we had not much contact
because divorce is on the table since December twenty twenty third,
but we wanted to work things out. I hear you
asking Why didn't you leave him earlier? Why did you
stay so long? I married him because I love him.

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I gave my ward to stay in good times and
bad times, and I don't take that easy. I wanted
to grow old with him. I could picture us sitting
on the sofa, watching the movies we like, laughing at
old jokes and cuddling. Boy, was I wrong.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
I wonder really quick if OP is from like a
religious background because of this like pretty steadfast refusal to
divorce or like hesitancy to this divorce.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I think it's possible. And I also just think that's
the narrative that is given to all most Western cultures around,
like this romantic fairy tale of You're gonna be with
one person for the rest of your life, through everything,
and then when people are mistreated, this narrative is so
not serving because it locks people into situations that harm them. AnyWho,

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After three weeks of rehab, he came home. We haven't
talked much during his rehab, but we were friendly with
each other. Everything seemed normal. After an hour of his return,
he started getting angry. He said, I had blocked him
on whatstep and everything? I was taken aback? What we
just texted the day before. What is happening here? I
asked him straight if he had exchanged numbers with some
woman again. He said, quote, no, just with men that

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were in his rehab groove. His phone again started to
ring very often, and you know what is coming next?
Of course I got suspicious. He told me it was eBay.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
What I was like, Hey, it's eBay, just wanted to
link up, just running the kissry little face.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
He's like, it's Domino's babe.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Jill said, they love me.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Oh that's so sweet of this company. Haha. Do you
really think I'm that stupid? So I waited, and one
day he took out the trash. I got his phone
and went through his what's that messages, and there it
was a chat with Cindy fick name, in which he
told her that he's asking me about my feelings and
that he is the one making all compromises and so
on and so on. I said nothing. A few days later,

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in the afternoon, his phone again rang all the time,
but this time I told him, I know it's not eBay,
and he said, fine, it's Walmart. You got me. I
told him to show me his phone, and there another
woman with him about but massages. We had really big
fights about all of that, and I cried like I
never cried before. He did not even bother to apologize.

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He said they were those friends. Classic right. I may
have been naive, but I'm not stupid. One week later,
he let me go through his phone again. This guy
is like, just like balls, they literally don't care. He's like, yeah, literally,
and you will not believe whom he was texting with.
I found one name I didn't recognize and looked into
the chat. I scrolled and scrolled end up. You remember

(27:20):
the name Miranda. Yes, on top of that chat, I
saw her name. One year after my grandma passed, she
had contacted him again. He did not block her like
he promised to what he.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Didn't go follow through this promises.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
He didn't. It's the truth. I believe it. I believe
it in a way. He did not block her, so
she had the opportunity to contact him. For all these years,
he met her, texted her, ranted about me with her,
and lied to me for eight whole years. All in all,
I found seven different women whom he was texting with
and lying about me. He told all of them that
I was the bad guy in this marriage. Four years

(27:57):
ago we moved into the flat we're now living in.
Now I know why he wanted this flat in this area, Miranda,
Get this is living just two.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Blocks away, right under your nose.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Right under great My trust in him is completely shattered.
So much more things have happened over the years with him,
and I can only guess that he has a narcissistic
personality disorder would also be a complete new posts explain
that here I trusted him, I still love him. I
try my best, and we could all agree that it's sure.
I've made mistakes too. Everybody does and I have no exception.

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We love a self.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
You're aware of being with him. That's the only mistake
I've seen.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Well, maybe they made mistakes. Didn't write it in that's true.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
It's a biased post.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, there is no way to get him to act
as a husband, to behave with respect, to accept boundaries
and respect them, not to cross the lines to make compromises.
And what really hurts is him bad mouthing me in
front of woman I don't even know. Runn Hee has
smear campaign against me because he got caught. He is
now telling everybody that I am the one who did
what he did. There's no way in I would ever

(29:00):
betray someone like that. One thing he also said is
that I wasn't there for him when his mom passed away,
the odd dad.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
He's a compulsive liar too.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
I had the flu of fever and everything, but I
still attended my mother in law's funeral.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
She was actively sick, and he's like, you weren't there
for me twenty four seven. You didn't make me any soup.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
He earns the money and is aware of the fact
that I depend on him financially. I try to save
money to get out of there. He's a pathological liar.
He lies about everything and to everybody. I'm so fed
up with this now, all right, we're getting to this lie.
I forgot the title. We got to the title. Okay,
that gave so much context. Okay, he's diagnosed with cancer.

(29:43):
Some of my friends say it's the karma he was
getting for what he has done to me. So here
is my session. Would I be the ahole if I
leave him? Even though he has cancer and maybe would
need help to recover. It's a relatively simple surgery. The
cancer will be easy to remove, and he won't eat
chemo or something like, I leave him, is this like
like a skin character. Yeah, it's going to be two hours.

(30:05):
You're gonna be back to normal. I have a friend.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
I had a friend who had cancer and it just
got it removed and it was Yeah, it was fortunately fine.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
It's it's common form, like very scary things cancer.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah, no to so so scary and like anyone who's
gone through that, like it is a very scary process.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
But if you're like, should I stay with my husband.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Who could literally just get this cancer is thing removed
and be fine, then don't.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Stay with him. Doctor is telling you it's a simple surgery.
It's going to be fun. Leave him also, even if
you like that, believe him. Yeah I agree with that too.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Like literally leave him regardless you don't know him. He's
an adult.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
I cry almost every day. That is not me. I'm
a person who will always help and be there for
the ones I love. He let me cry all alone
when my girlfriend passed away, and I confess I let
him cry alone when he got his diagnosis. I told
him why I want him to not dare crying in
front of me. That that is harsh, but it is understandable. Yeah,
if your partners. I told you they don't give an

(31:02):
f about your emotions, it's going to be pretty hard
to give an f about their remo.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
But also, like if you if this is the only
like if you're like I don't care about your emotions
and then you stay together, it's just like why.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, yeah, he told you so long ago he doesn't
care about your emotions. Like it's been eight years. I
gave him the taste of his own medicine. And I
also confess I don't regret it. I know that I'm
not that kind of person. That is not who I
want to be. Any Further, I'm ready for your judgment.
Thanks for reading, and for the ones among you who
are dealing with similar situations, please stay strong. There are
people who are loving. There is an update.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
I have no judgment other than like, divorce. That is
the only advice I can get.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
It makes no sense from our context. Yeah, everything you've
been given, it makes no sense for either of you
to stay in this Relationshi, Nope, nope, all right? Update?
Why did I not leave earlier? Because only at the
last one point five years bad things have ended added
up drastically, and only six months ago I started to
realize that he has a pattern of his behavior. I
started looking deeper into questions I had and asked in

(31:59):
different groups to maybe tell me what I'm dealing with here.
It took me long to realize what he was doing,
how he was doing it, and what situations he did
this or that. And by the way, we swear we
have happier stories. We swear you just have to join
us live on YouTube and Facebook every day at three
pm PSD. And we're probably live right now. Is just
have our probile go check it. There's another relevant update,

(32:21):
but let's discuss we already did. Unless you have thoughts.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Honestly, yeah, my final thought is you just need to.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Leave divorce, divorce, divorce, divorce, divorce, divorce, divorce, divorce. Ev
I'm not one to join the divorce chant and I'm champion.
I'm chatting gotta all right. My sister now saw what
a person he is too. Before I was isolated by him,
no one believed me. Now my sister is fighting for
me like a lioness. I also told some friends about

(32:48):
my situation. I'm searching for help and I get help.
Next week. I will seek help from our social system
and contact my lawyer to get the documents for him
for spousal support. I know that I have nothing when
I leave. I mean nothing, no bed, no friend, know nothing.
But I would rather have nothing than staying in this
marriage with a man childhood is nothing but complain about
my behavior and treating me like craft. The reason why
I asked my question is still because of in good

(33:11):
times and bad time, but I see it only counts
for his bad time.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yes, there we go. No, I think it's just knowing
that like we women at to fight for divorce and
you know it's it's a it's a rite that you
should exercise when needed.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yum, I know, Um, It's just no, I'm eating a date,
even a freaking date. John here og host. We're gonna
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Speaker 3 (33:45):
My husband cheated on me, but wants me to lie
to his family. Hi, guys, I'm extremely conflicted over what
to do in this situation and any advice is greatly appreciated.
Thank you so much in advance. I'm sorry for it
being such a long post. My husband twenty mins and
I twenty female have been together since March of twenty nineteen,
so six years this coming March.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Wow. So they got together when they were like fourteen
little babies. Whoa, yeah, oh my god. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
We've been through a lot of hardships together throughout our relationship.
By the way, this comes from top signature ninety three
sixteen on the Okay storytime Separate. So at the very
beginning of a relationship, I was diagnosed with diabetes, which
was a huge lifestyle change for me. My mother became
very sick in September twenty twenty, and being that we
were still so young and in high school, in order

(34:33):
to stay together, I moved from Louisiana to Arkansas with
him because my mother and I had been evicted from
our apartment and she wasn't able to support me any
longer in high school. You moved to be with him?

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Wow? He came yeah, with his family, I assume.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
So he came from an a family situation which didn't
improve after I moved in. In February of twenty twenty one,
my mother passed away. I was incredibly close with her,
and I was devastated to I still don't think I
fully recovered from her passing away. At this time, I
was enrolled in an online school, so being that I
was at home and his mother had to work to
support his two younger siblings, I took care of them,

(35:11):
two female and one male at the time for between
eight to twelve hours a day while trying to finish
high school and grieve my mother.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
That's a lot that is grieving a parent. You just
car killers, stay with a new partner, newish partner, and
you're taking care of two kids.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Eventually, his mom and the two babies were kicked out
of the house and she became homeless. Me and my
husband supported them and collectively spent thousands on hotels, food,
and other necessities.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
How, oh, yeah, you're in How How.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Did the situation persisted for around a year? When she
was kicked out of the house, she didn't have a car,
so I gave her my car and she used it
for over two years. This was a very hard time
for me, and I believed it changed me as a
person and affected our relationship in a huge way. In
twenty twenty two, after graduating high school, we both moved
away and began to build a life. After enrolling in college,

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he realized in order for him to live in an
apartment with me off campus, as I am not enrolled
as a student. We would have to be married and
present the marriage certificate to his college. Okay, so that
kind of well, I mean sometimes they just say, like,
you can't have this housing unless you know you guys
are it's like a legal thing.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Maybe because it's maybe because it's like yeah, because it's
student housing.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Off and a piece on a student.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
All first year students were required to live on campus
if they weren't able to provide an exemption. At the time,
it made complete sense to us. We had lived together
for almost two years already, so the thought of living
apart made no sense. We of course planned to marry
in the future anyway, so it seemed only logical. After
getting out of our prior situation, life was only supposed
to get better. We lived in the apartment together for

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a year before moving into a house that we now rent. Eventually,
his brother, seventeen male at the time, was able to
move away from his mom and come live with us
at the new house. Throughout our entire relationship, we have
always had a volatile areda. We both witnessed domestic our
entire childhoods and I feel that contributed the way we
end up fighting.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
For sure. It's your model of effics.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
It's incredibly hard to admit, but we both went through
emotional and physical from one another. Things would escalate and
we would both say and do things that we both
admit we were ashamed of. There were several times in
which we almost broke up after a fight. Looking back,
we should have broken up a long time ago, and
I realized that now. Definitely like a lot of trauma
bonding going on here, especially because you've been together since

(37:29):
you were like teenagers, and we're together like in this
kind of not great household after you lost your mom.
I have a wonderful relationship with his grandmother. I love
her very much, and she makes it known how much
she loves me. From the beginning of a relationship, she
has always been there and made me feel so loved
and cared for. Though I had a rocky relationship with
his mom in the beginning, at this point we have

(37:50):
reconciled and I have a great relationship with her as well.
She also tells me she loves and misses me anytime
we talk on the phone. All this context to say,
after years of disagreements and trying to make things work.
My husband has fallen out of love with me. He
made it clear to me that he felt we were
incompatible and that we were no longer the same people
that had gotten together at fifteen. How could you be?

(38:12):
No one is I am? I am so far from
the person I was at fifteen.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
And it's great, it's good. That is how it should go.
But just the question is, like, maybe the two people
at fifteen were good for each other. Yeah, and now
it seems like again he's saying, like.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Maybe you needed each other at that point and that
was really helpful in that time of your life.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
But yeah, it goes back to what we were saying
earlier of like this continuous choice.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Until it's no longer beneficial.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
For the longer serving each person, And then you know
it served each other for a while, and that's great,
but you gotta go separate ways.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
He expressed the desire for me to work on myself,
improve my emotional control, become more independent, gain hobbies, et cetera.
I felt completely broken, but he promised me we would
stay friends and still be there for each other. The
breakup was three weeks. He told me he was staying
with one of his friends until I was able to
move out. For the first week, not much changed. We
were still calling each other pet names, saying I love you,

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and being physically affectionate with each other, hugging small kisses.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
It's gonna be hard to break, yeah, but sometimes you
need a little like you do, ramp it down, out
of it.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Oh, that's yeah true. Throughout the second week, things became
a little more distant. We talked less over the phone,
and it was incredibly difficult for me to be on
my own. However, things were different in person. He still
acted like he cared for me and still told me
he loved me, hugged me, apologized for how hard everything
has been. This Monday, I found out he's been staying
with another woman rather than one of his friends.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Is it a woman friend a friend that is a woman.
That's the question. Is is it a friend that's a
woman or is it a woman friend?

Speaker 3 (39:43):
I found out because the messages popped up on our
iPad that we share. I know it was an invasion
of their privacy, but I couldn't help but read everything
before I confronted him. There were messages talking about them
having spicy sleep, messages about how much. They miss each
other all the time, Pictures of things that I gave
him that he gave to her. What the most devastating
part was them saying I love you. This is definitely

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something that was going on before they broke up.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Yeah, what is this three weeks after three weeks? You
don't You don't fall in love three weeks.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
After fall in love very quickly.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Okay, you shouldn't be saying I love you after three
weeks after you broke up.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Yeah. No, I'm not defending that. I'm not defending You're wrong.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
And how are they saying they miss each other? They
haven't even had enough time in the relationships.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
You don't even know each other. Yeah, so they're like
living they're living together, didn't know each other's middle names yet?

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah, for real.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
When I confronted him, he explained how terribly he felt
about the way he handled the situation and explained his
reasons for why he hadn't told me. He swore up
and down that he broke up with me as soon
as he started having feelings for her, and that he
hadn't flirted with her prior whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
It's hard to that is hard to believe.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Yeah, I begged him for explanation on how he got
all in love with someone if he had only been
talking to her for two weeks. We haven't even started
to pursue our divorce yet. We've had several long conversations
since then, and it hasn't gotten any easier.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's a whole thing. Like they're not
even divorced yet.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Yeah, after everything we went through, my love for him
runs very deep, and to hear that he was already
in love with somebody else didn't make any sense to me. Now,
to finally get to my question, he had me go
to Thanksgiving with them, and we didn't tell his family
at that point. His birthday is on the ninth, and
both sets of his grandparents are going to have lunch
with us to celebrate. His mom is coming to stay
at the house the sixth through the tenth. How should

(41:26):
I handle these next few days? Do I have the
right to tell any of them that he's been staying
with another woman who he's in love with. I don't
want to lie for him, especially if he goes over
to hang out with her while his mom is here,
And I don't want to lie to you, So I'm
going to tell you that you should join us live
every weekday at three PMPSD on YouTube, Facebook, TikTok, and Twitch.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Just tap our profile. That's the truth, dang true.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
There's a little bit more to the story.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
But what do we think? Do we think? Can we
do a poll, tell the family or not? I think
it's not your responsibility to cover it up and lie
to his family. But I just don't THENK you should
put yourself in that situation in the first place. Yeah,
I think I don't think op he should go spend
time with his family and act like everything's normal when

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it's not, Like, yeah, don't do that to yourself. You
don't owe anyone anything.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
I agree with that. My only thing is that she
seems to be have a very close relationship with them,
having lost her mom and seemingly like she doesn't have
any family besides them, So I also understand that is
kind of difficult of the point of like don't go
visit them, you know, But yeah, I don't think you
owe them anything. It's really like if they ask you,
then like, don't live for him.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
And it's also like a conversation you could have with
you know, your ex and say like, hey, I'm not
trying to throw you under the bus, but if I'm
not going to live someone else about something exactly.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
But there is a little bit more to this story.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Read that crap. He doesn't think.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
It's any of his family's business how the relationship started
and says that the only reason I would tell them
is to hurt him. He wants us to simply tell
them that we had issues that we couldn't resolve. I
don't want to hurt him, but I I also don't
want to have to life. I don't feel as though
I owe him that. I just don't want to be
the spiteful person he's making me out to be. How
do I proceed? And there are some comments common. One says,
you tell the family the truth he doesn't love you

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anymore and is having an affair, rather than then divorcing
you like a decent man. Should you can share your truth?
Why do you want to keep the truth hidden? Your
husband has blamed you for him leaving, and you believe
him he has an a fair Rather, don't take the
blame for him being an ale, stand up for yourself.
You should matter more to you than he should. And
comment two, do not lie to them? To protect his affair.
He is trying to protect her. If his family, who

(43:33):
loves you so much, finds finds out that he cheated
with her, it's going to be harder for him to
win them over to her side. It's manipulation on his part.
Please don't be his dormat and stop with affection and
pretending like things are fine and comment three. He wants
to hide his affair because he knows his family won't
like it. It's time for him to grow up and
take responsibility for his choices. He chose to cheat, and
he chose to leave for the other woman. Oh, he

(43:54):
can certainly tell his family what he did. In fact,
she could tell them ahead of time that he has
moved out, so she is assumes they will want to
stay with him and his girlfriend toss him straight into
the fire. Comment four. I believe they should know, but
I also believe you don't have to go and celebrate
with him, which is kind of what you were saying.
Or are you ready to play happy family for a
few days for his sake? Also, why are you expected
to move out of the home? And that is the

(44:16):
end of that story. I posted on Facebook saying Santa
Claus wasn't real. My sister's furious. I can't believe I
even need to post this, but here we go. I
posted the Ryan Reynolds Deadpool meme where he tells kids
about Spicy Sleep and says how Santa isn't real. What
my niece, who just turned thirteen, has a Facebook account

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that is about a week old. I honestly forgot I
even had her as a friend. By the way, this
comes from GFJQ twenty three on the Okay Storytime subburdate.
So my sister called me furious. Apparently she had to
come clean to both my nieces. The other one is eleven,
and now they're so upset they couldn't go to school today.
I thought she had told them years ago about Santa,

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but I still felt bad and apologized. She says that
it's not good enough, and that I need to publicly
say how Santa is real and provide proof to my
nieces how I believe Santa is real.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
I refuse.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
I think they are far too old to be believing
in Santa. Still, my mother and father sided with my sister,
saying I shouldn't ruin my niece's Christmas.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
It's March bro she wants you to go online and
post how Santa.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Is real, and she's gonna put oh pie's posting an apology.
She's like, it's like a YouTube apology video. I'm sorry.
My mother and father sided with my sister, saying I
shouldn't ruin my niece's Christmas it's March and take away
their childhood prematurely. I feel like I'm in crazy town.
I just sent an email saying I'm sorry the incident

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happened and that my nieces are hurting, but that I'm
not going to pretend Santa exists because I feel that
is an unreasonable request. My parents have said that they
are disappointed with me and my oh and my sister
said until I agreed to lie about Sanna that she's
going no contact.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Oh what am I wrong?

Speaker 3 (46:07):
That thirteen and eleven is a fine age to stop
believing in Santa. I get that they're all upset, but
isn't this an inevitable part of growing up? Usually my
family is reasonable, so I'm a bit shocked about this all. Honestly,
my sister and her family aren't even Christian. Yes, I
know Santa isn't a Christian thing, but Christmas is a
Christian holiday. We never really made a big deal of
Christmas beyond eating good food and opening a few gifts,

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and there isn't at it. I think your family is
being unreasonable. I think that's kind of silly, Like, how
are they going to protect their kids from the entire internet?
I'm sure there was there were gonna be tons of
posts like if they were on it around Christmas, tons
of post about it.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
And again, they let me on the internet, they.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Let Alex on the internet, watch out.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
On the internet. And you're gonna get mad at your
sister for yeah, adding to posting a meme. If you
want to protect your kids and that's.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Your decision, free access to the internet.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yeah, you did a bad job of protecting your kids
in the ways that you want to. That's the reason
they found out about the post, not because OPI made
the post, because you let them on the internet.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Yeah. I called my sister out on this whole BS
situation and for making up lies to try and.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Make me feel bad.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Oh, she called my parents crying. So my parents told
me their standard line of having me be the bigger
person and patch things up. Why has OP got to
be the per person?

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Because that's the standard line. Not this time.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
I told them to quit sticking their nose into an
argument that has nothing to do with them. But honestly,
I'm so pissed off they can all f off for
a while. I'm not responding to anyone unless I get
an apology and edit number two.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Crazy tone sister.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Says, I can't believe you responded to Nicie after I
told you not to talk to her.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
It's disrespectful to me.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Op you mean you're just upset you got caught in
a lie, Sister.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
It wasn't a lie. It was a justified exaggeration to
prove what me?

Speaker 3 (48:02):
What effing point, sister? That your words and actions on
Facebook a consequences.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
And it's it's your responsibility to lay down the consequences. Me.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Let me get this straight. You won't let me talk
to my nieces because I posted a meme about Santa
not existing, even though they don't believe in Santa anymore?

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Sister, what if they were younger? Me?

Speaker 3 (48:24):
They aren't? What the f kind of logic is that, Sister?
I can't talk to you when you're being unreasonable and
refuse to see the point me. Okay, good luck with
that when you're ready to apologize, you can send me
a message. Sister, What the F do I have to
apologize for? Don't even know why you're upset when I'm
the only one with the right to be upset.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Here me figure it out.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Oh that's actually really funny, dude.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Is op like normally like this or she like finally
taking a scandal taking anyone's crap?

Speaker 3 (48:55):
No more, I'm freaking done. Edit number three. You know
this isn't no normal behavior for my sister. I reached
out to my brother in law and he says he's
been concerned the past few days. It's been like a
switch was flipped and she started acting nuts. He's going
to make her an appointment with their doctors.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Oh, it might just be stressed.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
But never hurts to check it out. And some relevant comments.
Lonnie Lee three says your sister is having difficulty with
her daughters growing up. If the kids really started believing
in Santa, then she had been keeping them ignorant slash
innocent to a degree that borders on abusive. Do the
girls know the Easter Bunny and the tooth Fairy aren't
real either? Your parents are enabling your sister's weirdness. I

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guess you could post that, yes, Virginia, there is a
Santa Paus letter, but I surely wouldn't do anything more
than that. Your sister should be more worried about the
thirteen year old finding a baby in the cabbage patch
than leaving milk and cookies for a man in a
red suit roast. The weird thing is my sister is
a very spicy sleep positive parent. My nieces know all
about spicy sleep, birth control and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
That's why I brought it up.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
Yeah, Oh, spicy sleep is okay when they're ready for it.
But Santa Claus not being real is a horrible thing. Right,
and there is an updates.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Okay, before the update, there is for sure something.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
There's something going on, especially because they said the brother
in law even was like, I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Something's really weird. Yeah. Yeah, for most things, there's usually
something going on. This thing seems like there's something big
going on. We don't know it. She's not sharing it,
but something's going on in the shadows.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
To summarize the last post, I posted a Ryan Reynolds
meme about Santa Claus not being real on Facebook, which
my thirteen year old niece.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Saw how dare you? How dare you?

Speaker 3 (50:40):
My sister flipped out about it and wanted me to
publicly rescind and say how Santa is real. But I
thought my nieces were too old to believe in that
stuff and refused. It led to a crazy fight between us. Anyway,
I talked to my nieces and neither of them believe
in Santa, so they were baffled about the fight. I
talked to my brother in law and he said, myself
has been flying off the handle lately. We agreed she

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should probably get a check up, and he convinced her
to go to the doctor. On to the update. They
did an MRI and nothing showed up. Then they did
some blood work, which looked fine except some elevated cholesterol.
She isn't pregnant. They pretty much wrote her off as
a crazy person and sent her to a psychologist for stress.
After a session, the psychologist told her to do some

(51:23):
deep breathing and sent her away as fixed.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
I'm annoyed. I'm mad.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
I'm annoyed because this is freaking doctors not believing that
there's something wrong with women and just assuming that it's like, oh,
that being crazy and not actually digging deeper the idea.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
I mean, just therapists that have no idea what it
means to support someone emotionally and just say, oh, just
give it little, a little tip out. Like my whole
childhood was going to therapists because of a severe OCD
and them giving me little tips and not knowing how
to support someone. Yeah, that needs to learn how to
build relationship, a healthy relationship with themselves. Yeah, And so

(52:02):
I'm pissed off when therapists do that. And then also,
my first thought wouldn't be like something physically is wrong
with her. I would say, well, yeah, it's possible. My
first thought is usually like some emotional trigger is going off,
and I would my thought would be to take her
to a therapist to explore whatever emotional dynamics going on.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
She got worse. She stopped sleeping and barely ate, yet
still gain weight. Any small annoyance would send her into
a rage. Commercials were making her so upset she would
ugly cry. I asked my brother in law if they
tested hormone levels or anything like that, and he said
the doctors didn't feel it was necessary. I hate these
freaking doctors. This comes back, like, I hate this when
people don't the doctors don't believe women when they're like, hey,

(52:47):
something's going wrong. I don't know what's like why I'm
feeling this way, and they're like, oh, it's it's probably
your like on your period. She called me one day,
crying and apologizing, saying she was the worst sister ever
and I had every right to hate her. She was
so devastated she ruined our relationship and such it was
weird and not my sister. So when I got a

(53:09):
chance to speak, I told her she was going to
see my doctor, and I wasn't taking no for an answer.
I set up an appointment, and my doctor ordered a
full blood panel including hormone and vitamins before my sister
drove to town for her appointment. When my sister drove up,
we spent the morning shopping and she was unpredictable. One
minute she was happy and the next yelling about some
perceived slight That effing pretentious makeup counter Bee just looked

(53:32):
at me funny for my cheap store makeup. Was uncomfortable,
so I just walked on eggshells to keep her from exploding. Anyway,
results of the blood work and a good doctor paramenopause,
and then you have it. She just needed a freaking
good doctor to actually give her a diagnosis instead of
saying that she was romonal. Her hormones are completely abnormal.
None of her doctors would even consider it because she

(53:54):
was too young for menopause, so they didn't even bother
running the tests.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Uh so frustrated.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Ah, She'll be coming up with a care plan with
my doctor for hormone replacement therapy and diet change to
hopefully get back on track. She's still a nutcase right now.
For example, she'll call me crying the other night because
she will never have more kids what her husband had
of the second meet years ago. I'm driving to her
place next weekend and we're going to batch cook a

(54:21):
bunch of meals for her new diet plan. I'll be
doing it with her as I could stand to eat healthier,
so it'll be a slow process, but we have a
diagnosis and a plan. I'm taking her appers as crazy
hormones right now because it'll take a while to even out,
but you know it doesn't take a while. Joining us
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We're probably live right now, go check it out.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Probably I'm live.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
I got her a dark chocolate cake for Easter that said,
happy reverse Easter when the Easter Buddy.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Takes back your eggs.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
That's so funny because I'm kind of a She thought
I'm hilarious though, so we're good, and edit moved the
comment about being bipolar, though my sister in law has
professionally diagnosed by polarism and does have wildly swinging moods
within minutes sometimes, though usually a manic high or low
last week's. It wasn't my intention to slur a group

(55:13):
of people. My sister was acting very much like my
sister in law can act sometimes, so it was the
best reference I could make. I apologize for fending anyone.
This is the best thing ever. So glad you figured
it out. Good for you for realizing she was totally
out of whack and helping her get back on track.
Good luck. I mean, yeah, if you had listened to
your parents, she would have gone on being not well.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Yeah, and not kind of support and helpe she needed, Opie.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Says, well, like I said, it wasn't abnormal for teenage sister.
She was a huge drama queen back then it was
abnormal for thirty six year old sister. I guess she's
sensitive to hormone fluctuations.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
That is the end of that story, Sam here og host.
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My brother, Chris, twenty seven year old male fake name,
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and I, twenty six year old females seven years ago.
We took pity on him after he was kicked out
of my childhood home for substance use and was sleeping
in his car. By the way, this comes from you,
Dwight troop beats on the roka start, so the storytime
subread it. So at first Chris and my boyfriend got
along great. After a few years of living together, Chris

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became more reclusive and distant from us. Both chores were
not being done around the house, and I was getting
sick of cleaning up after him and his negative attitude.
Six months prior to the end of our lease, I
told Chris that he had defined another living situation. He
did finally move out a few weeks prior to the
end of our lease, and I thought we all agreed
about splitting up shared appliances and valuables. One thing we

(56:51):
did not discuss was our shared robot mopping device. One
thing we did not discuss was our shared robot mope
mopping device. We acquired this one day at my grandmother's
a few years ago. She was moving and offered it
to all three of us as she would not be
using it, so we brought that little robot home. This
ling is nothing fancy, just a small device you feel

(57:11):
with cleaning solution and attached disposable mop pads. Let me
be clear, in the four years we've had this thing,
Chris has not once paid for any replacement mopping pads.
Never had ever turned the thing on. It was always
boyfriend or I splitting the costs of pads and setting
this thing up to run nightly so we'd all wake

(57:33):
up to clean floors downstairs. Chris hasn't to return his
key because he's still slowly moving out. It's been over
a month now. He always showed up unannounced to our
home to gather boxes and his belongings. Sometimes he wouldn't
even realize he was there while we had been out.
Last night boyfriend was looking for our little shit. That's
why it's been taking so long. He's a beef. Last

(57:56):
night boyfriend was looking for our little robot friend as
we had just got to new had deliver delivered for it.
Turns out, after going crazy looking for his thing. In
texting Chris, he did take it, claiming, yeah, this was
the last straw. We had been so accommodating to this
man for years. I just can't believe Chris had the
addacity to take our beloved robot clinging friend without a word.

(58:18):
That's a kidnapping right there. Yeah. I have let Chris
know that we are no longer comfortable with him coming
by unannounced, and if he needs anything, we will look
for it ourselves. I also said he could return his
keys to the office and we will pick it up.
His response, it's about to get dirty. It's about to
get real.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
The mop's not here.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Stop being weird. I don't want any of your trash crap.
Already had all of my useful grow equipment stolen. Anyways,
stop texting me before you make me mad. The grol
stuff referred to here is indoor Greenhouse and Hydroponics, which
was verbally agreed for an even split of material since

(58:58):
both Chris and boyfriend acquired the equipment together, so he
already supposedly he already that Yeah, we split weird. So
Boyfriend ordered a camera that will be here tomorrow. I've
contacted the leasing office to make them aware of the
animosity between us and requested the locks to be changed.
I just want to know. Am I going too far?
This robot is not at all expensive, but it's more

(59:21):
about the principle to me, I feel disrespected. We all
have to see each other next week for Thanksgiving, and
I know it will be awkward. Some of Op's comments commenter,
not the a hole, Your freeloading brother took the final
step over the line. WHOA came in hot Ope. I
appreciate your reply, thanks for taking them down to read.

(59:42):
I agree he's a free loader and an arrogant one
at the living situation. He's officially moved out more than
a month ago now and has his own new residence. Also,
we have only been staying at this townhouse for one
year and a month. We had all moved out together
from our previous living situation. The robo We absolutely loved
this robot. One of my boyfriend and my favorite pastime

(01:00:05):
was to get stoned and watch this little guy go
back and forth cleaning our floors. So there is an
emotional behind there is. I almost feel like this was
intentionally taken from us to prevent enjoyment and as an
intentional inconvenience. Commenter, you took in a substance, user, What

(01:00:25):
did you expect? Oop? I thought I had almost lost
my brother, though that had probably clouded my judgment. It
was an unintentional overuse from a laced substance. Was supposed
to just be psilocybin. That's what I was told. Did
he tell you? Hey told me the story being kicked out,
but it was corroborated by my mom and siblings. It

(01:00:47):
does seem like he didn't realize what the substance actually was.
But I guess I'll play stupid games. But I guess
play stupid games, win stupid prizes fits commenter. Has he
ever taken any responsibility for what got him kicked out?
Or was it never his fault? What kind of housemate
was he? Boyfriend was very patient because that's a lot
of drama no one needs. Have you apologized the boyfriend

(01:01:09):
for disrespecting his home. Ope. The main reason we wanted
him to move out was space for boyfriend and I
as a couple. We're planning an engagement soon. We want
to move on with our lives. It was quite weird
to live with, especially towards the end. Did it clean
up the mess on the stove or coffee area after himself?
I don't think he took out the trash once and

(01:01:29):
I had to ask, So there was some communication around, lie,
we need you to do something, and he still wasn't
doing it. I've apologized to my boyfriend for letting this
go on for so long, but I should really put
a note on something together for him. Thanks. Also, it
was a mutual decision. Hm, I see what you actually
mean by getting kicked out. And yes, he fully admitted

(01:01:51):
that he was at fault for the substances. As far
as I know, he doesn't do hard substances, only legal
Mary Jay and psychedelics. Your brother in a hall who
seems to have some entitlement and anger management issues. I
go no contact with him asap. Oh Op. We were
low contact as it was a while living together. We

(01:02:12):
hardly spoke at all and he would walk in and
ignore us, no hello or goodbye commentary. Please tell me
you charged him some sort of rent? Oh op? Oh yes.
Originally we all stayed in boyfriends childhood home and we
didn't have rent, so he didn't either. But we when
we all moved on to rented spaces, he did contribute
one third. What does he want with the robot anyways?

(01:02:37):
He only wants the mopping robot now that he has
hardwood floors now, But we've always lived in a house
where this robot was useful. He just didn't want to
contribute to our shared space. He also had the audacity
to say his contributions to cleaning the robe the floor
was the robot itself that was given to us and
we did not pay for He did not pay for it. Update.

(01:02:58):
I decided to reach out to my brother and ask
him nicely to bring our robot to Thanksgiving so we
could bring him back home. Here's the messages so far. Me.
I've got some time to think about this and got
to some different perspectives. I don't believe the robot belongs
to you. I really appreciate it if you could bring
it with you to Thanksgiving so we could bring it

(01:03:18):
back home. I feel as though we've been very accommodating
to you over the years you've lived with us, and
taking a shared applying to that any discussion is not
only disrespectful but shows your lack of consideration for us.
So we'd like our robot back, since really he is
ours after years of using and up keeping without any

(01:03:38):
help from you. Chris, I've gotten some time to think
about and I want the I want the TV from
Grandma's as well, So go ahead and bring it over
when you get a chance.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
This is a ransom, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
I think he's just like I think it's more like
a costant situation. I think it's more like an fu
give me the TV and I'm gonna keep the robot.
That's how I.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Oh, he's not even gonna get it back.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
What do you think, Kian, Oh, it's not as robot.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
I mean he's like, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
What do you think means bad? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Oh, yeah, it's a hostage situation. You think he's saying, yeah,
give me the ransom money, give me the ransom for
Grandma's TV, and no one gets hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Op responded in text. TV was also given to us specifically.
I'm not sure why you think that's yours as well,
question mark, Chris, everything was given to you, apparently. She
asked me if I wanted the robot while I was
in the kitchen, and I said, yes, that's how it went,
end of story. I don't give two craps what you
think is yours or not. If I let you borrow

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something because I'm not using it, it doesn't make it yours. Okay.
So so brothers come in with a new story. Here
he got he's got new facts, new facts, but we
don't know if they're facts, says as I remember it.
We were all there at the time she offered, and
I even tried to dec since it's still useful, but

(01:05:02):
she insisted it was given to all of us as
a shared household. If you think it was yours, you
should have had discussions with us first before taking it
while we were out. Chris, you remember wrong, and I
don't need to have a discussion about my own things.
Not to mention boyfriend moving shady taking crap out of
the tent while I was gone, thinking I wouldn't notice. Lol,

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How is that any different? I didn't bring it up
because I'm a bigger person. I don't really care anymore.
I want to put this terrible part of my life
behind me, and if you don't leave it be, I'm
going to leave you behind as well. Escalating it the
most important thing. The robot question we have, question I

(01:05:44):
have is he just escalating out of the blue and
this is like totally ridiculous? Or is there some things
we don't know about op mistreating the brother?

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Mmmmm, there's always two sad the story.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Always two sides. We don't know the other side of
this story. He said, this was I want to leave
this terrible part of my life behind Why is it terrible?
Is he making it up? Or maybe he was mistreated?
Maybe we don't know me. You and boyfriend had a
discussion about splitting up the gross stuff, which he thought
went amicably. You aren't very being very mature, and I

(01:06:21):
don't want someone that can can't have a simple conversation
about shared items in my life anyways. Woo, So I
guess that's it looks like we will not be getting
our little friend back. You're gonna be okay?

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Thank you all for your support and interacting with this post.
This was my second post ever and to see it blow.
It was a crazy feeling. No, you're telling me we
went through that whole story. You don't even get your
child back two hours later, actually after the convo boyfriend
just had with him. We might be seeing our friend
again soon. Look out next Thursday for an update Update

(01:06:57):
number two boo hello again. I just wanted to start
by saying thank you for all your judgments on my
last post. I read every comment and gave each perspective
some thoughts. Ultimately, you guys helped me gain the confidence
to stand up for myself and ask for our robot back.
But I included my text conversation with my brother Chris

(01:07:17):
in the comments to my last post to summarize. I
asked as politely as I could for our mopping robot back,
as well as stated the reasons why it belonged to us.
Chris refused to see reason and pretty much said he
would be cutting me out of his life if I
keep bringing this up. My wonderful boyfriend couldn't sit back
and let him be disrespectful to us anymore. He had
his own conversation with Chris, which for privacy reasons cannot

(01:07:40):
be shared. Dang was this through text over.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
These in combat.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
I think it was over text. Boyfriend ended up taking
some of your guys' device and threatened. Boyfriend ended up
taking some of your guys' advice and threatened to reveal
specific information to our family if our robot was not
returned on Thanksgiving. This was last Thursday, so I had
one week to make a decision. After a quiet week,
I was preparing myself to drop a gosh darn bomb

(01:08:05):
on family dinner. But then I went out to start
warming up my car Wednesday night and there was a
bush my front. Oh my god. I didn't order anything,
and as I picked up the bucks noticed it wasn't sealed.
Oh and if you want to seal your lips and
not share award, join us live on YouTube and Facebook

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every weekday at three. We're probably live right now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Chat threats. Did you just threaten everyone?

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
I guess Chris decided that a mopping robot was not
worth ruining his reputation with our family. He will not
be bothering us anymore, and we will be low slash
no contact from now on. Dang you like, are you
happy with that?

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
I mean, it sounds like she's Honestly, I can't imagine
the relationship was that strong before this, you know, like.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
This, it sposed to have been just like a like
just a final yeah situation. Positive from all this drama,
boyfriend and I are utilizing our new home monitoring cameras
to watch our pets, our dogs and cats activities while
home alone are so entertaining. It brought us a lot
of joy to check in on them. Family photo will

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be posted in comments of pets and robot. Image description
Opie's tupups the cat and the robot. Now it's done.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
My sister claimed that my friend is her baby daddy.
I demanded a DNA tests.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
That's the truth.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
I Michael Mailed twenty eight and my sister Chloe twenty
six have always had a difficult relationship. When my mother
was pregnant with my sister, there were some complications and
she only had about a five percent chance of being
born healthy. She was born healthy and had no health issues.
By the way, this comes from Long Game twenty ten
on the Okay Storytime Supparate it. Due to this, my

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mother and father have always favored her over me. Examples
include buying her presents on my my birthday. But like so,
she doesn't feel left out letting her plan my birthday
parties and inviting her friends. This has gone on my
whole life. Chloe wants something equals she gets it, whether
it's right then, right there, or over time nagging until

(01:10:17):
she gets it. We grew up fairly poor and struggled
for money, but my parents would take out loans for
her birthdays to get her the best new phones, laptops,
you name it. I, on the other hand, would get
essentials like socks.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Did we take out loans for birthday presents.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
When I was due to go to college, I had
to work my butt off and put myself through college.
When it was her time, I found out my parents
had set up a savings account and put money in
it every paycheck to save her to save for her fees,
meaning she had almost no student fees. When I was
at college, I met my best friend Adam and we
bonded very quickly through Whilst at college, he met Taylor.

(01:10:56):
After about two years of dating, Adam and Taylor married.
My sister threw a tan about not being invited at
the time and felt entitled about coming as I was
going and was the best man. Adam did end up
giving in and inviting her just to keep the peace.
In twenty twenty, Taylor passed away in a car crash.
She was also pregnant at the time, so it was
a huge blow for Adam.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Tragedy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
His whole future was wiped out in one evening.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
I was there for Adam and helped him arrange for
the funerals. Throughout this whole time, Chloe wanted to be involved,
but thankfully she wasn't, otherwise their funerals would have been
the Chloe Show. In early twenty twenty one, Chloe called
me and asked to meet me at our parents' house.
I went and they were all sat down in the
living room. This is when Chloe told me that she

(01:11:42):
was six months pregnant and that Adam was the father.
Oh dang, Obviously I was shocked. I didn't even know
Adam liked her in that way. This is where things
get complicated. Adam and Chloe had a one night stand
and she felt pregnant. When she told Adam of it,
he said that he didn't want to be involved in
the baby's life and that sleeping with her was a

(01:12:05):
huge mistake. He needed to focus on getting in a
better state mentally, and this wouldn't be fair on a baby.
Adam was wanting to be reunited with Taylor. Chloe said
she understood and wouldn't pressure him at all, but she
wanted to keep the baby throughout her whole pregnancy. Adam
worked on himself and always made it clear to her
that he didn't want to be part of her or

(01:12:25):
the baby's life. When the baby was born, Chloe named
the baby Angelica Rose. This was the exact same as
Adam and Taylor's baby, and she knew this. That's disgusting,
That is despicable. She also sent him a picture of
Angelica which read, God brought me back to you, daddy.

(01:12:46):
Adam flipped. I think it was an even bigger reminder
to him of everything he'd lost since giving birth. My
sister has been slandering at him all of our social media,
calling him a deadbeat dad, etc. And bad mouthing every
chance she gets. My opinion on this, albeit unpopular at
it as it is that he isn't a deadbeat dad

(01:13:07):
because he simply isn't a dad, not to Chloe's baby anyway.
I truly believe that Chloe made the decision to carry
on with her pregnancy under the full knowledge she'd be
doing it alone.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
He told her.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
I told her from the start. I mean, as long
as he's playing child.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
Support, Yeah, he told her from the very beginning, I'm
not going to be that role.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
I see it as she tried to force him into
having this baby and being a father. Now, imagine if
the roles were reversed. If a man got a woman
pregnant and refused any of her please of not wanting
the baby, people would call that man a monster and
the woman a victim. But when it comes to a
woman forcing a man into becoming a father, he's a deadbeat.
Last weekend, myself, Chloe and Angelica Rose were at her

(01:13:47):
parents for my mother's birthday, and Chloe went on her
usual rant about Adam and my parents started to join
in too. Now I just lost it and told them
all exactly how I see it, that Chloe tried to
baby trap Adham and it backfired. But he was honest
with her about why he didn't want to be involved,
and that when Chloe named her baby what she did,
that this was really a kick in the teeth for

(01:14:09):
Adam and one of the cruelest things I have ever
seen anyone do. Of course, like everything with my parents
and Chloe. They sided with her and told me I
was out of order for saying my beliefs to Chloe
and I was kicked out of the house.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
WHOA your family is whack? Yeah, they're pretty delusional about
this Chloe yeah golden child thing.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
Chloe has now also blocked me on everything, and I
have been told that she has told my niece, whom
I love and I've looked after every single Wednesday and
Thursday since she was born, that I am passed away.
I honestly don't know how I can fix this, and
even if I want to, I am thinking. I am
thinking about phoning CPS on her, but don't know if
I can or they wouldn't care. I can't stand the

(01:14:51):
thought of my niece thinking I was passed away as
we were very close. Wait, she actually.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
Thinks you're full gone.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
I think if I apologize, she might let me see
Angelica Rose again. But I don't know if I should
apologize for just being honest with Chloe that she chose
this life for herself and now needs to deal with it.
But am I the a hole or should I have
just kept my mouth shut? And there is an update
so this blew up a lot more than expected. Some
people on here have mentioned document and everything, so that's

(01:15:19):
exactly what I'm gonna do. I've started so far with
asking a mutual friend to screenshot everything my sister has
shared on her Facebook re me and I put every
photo I've ever taken of me an Angelical Rose in
a folder, and I will be making physical copies of everything.
I also messaged my parents yesterday asking if I could
come over and speak with them. They have said yes,

(01:15:40):
and I will be going round at the weekend. I
am also going to be recording this conversation and talking
about Angelica Rose to them, and I'm also considering laying
everything out on the table about how they've made me
feel my whole life. After that, I'm going no contact
with them both if it goes the way I think
it does. In terms of Adam and Ada, I don't

(01:16:01):
think one was ever done. He never contested being the father,
as he never intended to be round for the baby anyway.
Although he isn't physically a presence in the Angelica's life,
he does support my sister financially, which is what he
said he'd always do. I have a lot of Angelica
stuff at my house given that she used to be
here two days a week. So I'm gonna speak with

(01:16:22):
Adam about doing a DNA test to see if he
really is hurt biodad. Both me and Adam worked for
the same company and both have put in a transfer request,
mine to get away from my family, and his was
so he could have a fresh start somewhere new. Hopefully
both get approved and we will be moving.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
To a new state, new beginning.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
And there is another update. But I think the I
mean on Adam's and a DNA test.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
Would be smart.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
Yeah, for sure, especially if he's financially supporting.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Yeah, I think that would be smart. And also with
like the collecting evidence thing, someone said it's going to
escalate from here, and that's fair, But at this point,
who you collecting evidence from? No one. It's in totally
in Opie's sister's choice. If she wants her brother to

(01:17:12):
have a relationship with the daughter, No one or no
agency could force her. Yeah, to allow the brother to
see the child. He doesn't have ownership or possession over
the child.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
I met my parents after my first update, and it
went exactly how I thought. They told me that I
shouldn't have told Chloe how I felt, and worse, they
don't think she's done anything wrong, even though I have
given them all the context of how Chloe got Angelica's name.
They both said that they didn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
I know that they did, but whatever, and then they
know now.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
So I then blew up and completely opened up about
how they made me feel my whole life. And then
this was followed by the classic I guess I'm just
a terrible mother, to which I told my mom, yes
you are. I will be going no contact with all
of them from now on, and I can honestly say
I feel a lot better not having any of them

(01:18:07):
around anymore. I showed Adam all of the comments on this,
and he has agreed that he's okay with doing a
secret DNA test to see if Angelica Rose is his.
But you know it's not a secret. Tell us joining
us live every weekday at three pm PSD on YouTube,
Facebook and TikTok.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Just tap our profile.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
I think you should do a DNA test, but I
don't know if the secret is the best way to
do it, especially if you want to do something legally.
If they found out that they did something, maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Yeah, it could it could shoot you in the foot
later on. Also, people are going to be mad at
me for saying this.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Oh no, I don't even say it, though, you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
Gotta say.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Don't.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
It's not me, stop me, No one can. Okay. The
parents have been awful. Yeah, I want to preface with
that they have treated the sister as the golden child
their whole life and then to get her education. To
pay for her education over OPI is like huge. So

(01:19:08):
they have acted terribly. And at the same time, I
will say, if you are in an argument about something
that you are triggered about, they are triggered about that
it's happening right now, and you want to throw in
the whole span of your life's relation dynamics with them
and get upset that they're not going to respond reasonably

(01:19:29):
to it. No crap, Like, no crap, They're not going
to have the capacity to respond the way you want
them to, or to take it all in and to
actually consider your perspective. They never would have. They never
were going to be able to if you just jumble
the up and then your feelings that you've had your

(01:19:51):
whole life and have never shared it with them in
its entirety, if you just jumble it out all at
them at the same time. Of course, I'm not gonna respond.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
I really hope she isn't, and to be honest, I
am beginning to think she isn't, especially after what Chloe
has been doing recently. In terms of our jobs, both
transfers have been agreed. Our bosses know about our situations
and don't want to risk us leaving the company altogether,
so we will both be moving to a new state
in the next few months. So everything is starting to
look up.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
Let's go, baby.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
I will try to update this again once we get
the DNA results back or if anything else hits the fan,
but for now, thank you everyone. I was ninety nine
percent sure I wasn't in the wrong, but there was
one percent that kept telling me, and that is the
end of that story.
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