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00:12 r/MotherInLawsFromHell - [2] MIL using OH to steal money from FIL & got caught RANT
19:26 r/BestofRedditorUpdates - Me [28F] with my husband [30M] and FWB [25M]. His mother found out & threatens to tell people
35:39 r/okstorytime - MIL plays favorites in front my kids… what should I do?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
My mother in law use my husband to steal from
her own husband.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
It's husband on husband crime.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
My mother in law has been using my husband's account
to send herself money.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Oh, fraudulent husband on husband crime.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
My husband has.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Had hard times over the years with work, and during
that time his dad helped him through. You would send
him money for bills he couldn't make between checks. My
mother in law, who keeps my father in law's books balanced,
had access to my husband's account because he opened it
at sixteen.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Have you ever balanced books?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
No?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Oh well yeah on my head? Oh bye bay.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
This comes from Frost and Cobbles fourteen seventy eight, And
if you want to smit your own stories, go to
the r slash Okay Storytime suburn it.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I'm Sophia, I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Dakota, I'm Keon, and we're here to give good advice goofully.
But we don't have all the answers. We only know
what we'd do, So let us know what you would
do in the comments, and OPI says, so my mother
in law was the one sending my husband his dad's
money and would take the money out of my husband's
account as repayment. Seems like a kind, thoughtful mom right
(01:19):
until the truth comes out. Ever since I married my husband,
she started coming up with crazy amounts of money that
my husband hasn't paid.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
First, twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Is this like one of those like you need to
repay us for your existence time scenarios?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
But I'm wondering how she's even, you know, bringing that up,
because it's pretty easy to know whether or not you
owe someone twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah, like on paper like a handshake. I don't know what.
If that's legit debt then whatever. I doubt it.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
But if it's not, I always love the flipping that
on its head of like, well, we raised you, you
owe us this money, We paid all.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
This money for you.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I'm like, you actually owe me because of all the
traumas I've lived through. I didn't ask for that, So
I'm gonna need ten grand for that. I'm gonna need
fifteen grand for this other one.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I feel like the jokes will bounce out.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Tammy broke up with me in front of everyone in
my high school class.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I didn't ask for that.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Tammy pay me twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Then the final number she's claiming now is fifty seven
thousand dollars that my husband owes his dad. Well, I
call bs, and so did my oblivious husband. He asked
me to figure it out as I have taken over
keeping his account and kicked her off because she was
caught lying about us spending father in law's money. I
feel like the men in this story need to start
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looking at their accounts.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
NA do it just Japanese style?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Is that?
Speaker 5 (02:44):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Y'all don't know? No, in Japan, it's.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Uh, that's what we ask normal for the husband or
the man in a relationship to not really no handle
any of the finances.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
That's all up to his wife, Laies, the lady of
the house.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Well, I guess we're in Japan.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
She had already stolen money from me personally from my
husband's account while we were dating.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
What so?
Speaker 5 (03:10):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Like, are we not?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Why are we so chill about this?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Why do they have access to our accounts?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah? My money is still missing from her records and
was never paid to me or my husband. I didn't
fight it because I was in college, was engaged to
her son, and wanted to keep the peace, even though
I was pissed. I go through the numbers on the
account and compare them to what she has hand written.
She is telling father in law my husband is only
paid him thirteen thousand, when she has taken sixty seven
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thousand from the account. She sends all the money to
my husband from one account father in laws, but she
puts the repayments into five different accounts that.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Aren't father in laws.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Her name is on them, so we are obviously pissed.
Then we compare the bills she has listed and we
realize we have repaid five thousand too much. Today, while
looking over everything, I find where she sent fifty two
thousand dollars to my husband from father in law. I
call my husband. He says he doesn't know. I dig
more and look up everything from that day and find
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a check written for fifty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
How do you not know you were sent fifty grands.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I really don't understand who is looking at your money,
or your funds or your bank account because oh, piece
said that in the beginning, she was like, well, his
mom has access to his account because he was sixteen
when it started. As if you can't get a new
account or even take someone off of the account.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Yeah, I know that it is. I know that it's weird.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Though.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
If it starts as a like a you're a minor
and you start an account with a parent, it can
be weird to get them taken off or like have
their control taken out.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
You can get a new account and start putting your
money in.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
That one, but I don't think you can take the
money from that account and put it into a new
one without.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Their name on it.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I'm pretty sure you can't.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
No, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure there's
restrictions when you have multiple I think when your names
on an account that one of them was in when
it was started when you were a miner, which is dumb.
But I just once you're an adult, you should be
able to be like, I'm not a miner anymore. But
it's like, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I could be wrong. I don't know. If somebody check me,
check me in the comments.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
We look through all our checkbooks and it didn't come
from what he has, but they were all mailed to
mother in law's house, so she had them before us. Y'all,
are they're you're getting your checkbooks mailed to her house.
Go to your bank today, say hey, I want to
open up a new account. I don't know, ask them
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how I get my money out from my mom's shared
account with me, and.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Then change your address. Y'all? Are what are you doing?
Fix this?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Okay? I'm wrong?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, no, I was gonna say, because when I because
I stayed in an account and it was.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Pretty easy to transfer.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Okay, like unless unless they said maybe maybe, Like what
you're thinking is if Opie's husband said I want to
transfer this money and then the mom was like no.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
But also that would be crazy if she said that.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah I can I can't imagine if you haven't any
well maybe I don't know. Maybe there it's equal.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I then looked up where we were the week the
check was written, and we can prove we didn't write
a check at the time.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I mean, yeah, all this should be very provable because
like it's it's financial records like that.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
The bank would have record if these checks were cashed
or deposited.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
So not only can we prove she's used my husband's
account to steal money from father in law, but we
can prove she stole fifty two thousand dollars from father
in law and use my husband to do it. She
also stole three K from my husband, plus the four
K we can track that she stole over a three
year period on top of the fifty seven k. She's
trying to make my husband pay her. You guys need
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like a money guy. Let's get an accountant money person
in there.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, call mister money man, Please have him money your money.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
My husband called his oblivious father, who said, I don't
know about her sending you fifty two K or why
she would use your checks.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You'll have to talk to her. This guy is stupid.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You just told him that she stole fifty two thousand
dollars from him, and he.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Was like, I don't know, ask her about that.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I wish I was in a place where I could
be this flip at about fifty grand.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah, everyone just seems to be like em, No, kick
it down the line, somebody else will take care. Yes.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I don't know. Which confuses me because it seems like
Op and her husband have been borrowing money, right the
parents if they're not surprised that they owe anything and
yet are so chill about giving away all this and
this money being thousands of dollars being stolen, Yeah, what's
going on? My husband is furious and said he was
(07:41):
done with mother in law and isn't paying her anything else.
He also told his dad that he's going to take
the missing five k as him buying the machine he's
been borrowing from his dad for work. Then my husband
called his mom to get her story. When I saw
she used his account to steal fifty two thousand dollars
from his dad, I literally threw up my father in law.
He's surprisingly nice, but his wife is a witch. Advice Please,
(08:04):
I gave you all of my advice, but my advice
for UOP is to immediately separate your funds from your
mother in law. Don't know why you haven't done that yet? Crazy, Well,
I'm pretty sure. Well, yeah, you can't talk about it yet,
I'll keep talking. When I turned eighteen, I don't think
my parents had access to my bank account anymore. We
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separated that, and obviously my parents were supportive and helpful
in doing that because I was eighteen and didn't really
know how to do all that. So he clearly didn't
have that. But now he has you a supportive partner,
and we should get on that.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
And that's my thoughts.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah, well, I think all of this is going back
to you probably really you are borrowing this money from
your father, but she's using the repayment as her own
personal funds.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, so he's not really getting paid maid back. I
don't know. It feels like she could just ask her
husband for money.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
It feels like he doesn't care.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Yeah, it feels like if she was like, can I
have eight thousand dollars, he'd be like, yeah, I mean
that's why I'm gonna have access to our bank account.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
I'm kind of getting to sense they're a little like
maybe rich. Like like the fact that the money can
go like from twenty to fifty and then more and
then more. It's like, what are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, we aren't pursuing it legally. Father in law is
staying with mother in law and he firmly believes she
didn't steal money from many of us. He claims the
fifty payments we made equivalent to thirty five thousand she
doesn't account for.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Was a mistake. This guy's his brain is full of rocks.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
I mean, it's easier to be unbothered by that than
to try to like deal with it. So I can't
understand that from a certain perspective, especially if it's like
he's like, I don't know, she's just being freaking weird
and honestly, this amount of money doesn't even affect me.
If that's the case, yeah, then he's like, yeah, I
don't know, she probably just made a miss.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I don't care, but I can't take all my money.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I agree with that point, but it seems like he's
also saying that she didn't even steal their money.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I don't know she didn't do that because.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
He said he said, he claims the fifty payments we made.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Yeah, but I think he I think he's still accepting
because it's like whit He said that they were buying
the machine from him that he had been using too.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
He's like, all right, yeah, whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Man just doesn't care about anything.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, my husband is tired of arguing. After a week
straight of her saying or of the seven accounts aren't hers,
she sent us pictures of her account numbers, and literally
all seven of the accounts have her name on them.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
What a dumb lie to try to pull off.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
My husband said he's done and just isn't going to
pay anything else. We'll drop it until it's an issue again.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Okay, separate your accounts.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I have another post about my mother in law asking
my husband what she did to make me so mad.
She never reached out to me before or after their conversation,
and I've never received an apology or any attempt at reconciley.
The argument I'll talk about is the day of our
gender reveal, where father in law and mother in law
cornered us after my family left and demanded I sell
(11:09):
my horses. This is why you guys.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Don't care about money.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Your horse rich, your horse people, your horse people rich people.
You're so rich, why would they be like you get
either the horses or the baby.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Cannot have both horses and the baby.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Now that we found out the gender of your baby,
you simply must sell those courses.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Now that we found out that your baby was not
a horse, it cannot hang out with the horses. We
were fingers crossed that you were gonna give birth to
a little horse baby, but it.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Kind of just the new drama involves the entire family.
Aunt one is the wife of father in law's brother.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
God, there's a new drama, aren't one.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
We're gonna call Peggy. Aunt two is the wife of
mother in law's brother.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Okay, so they're in Sue. We'll call her Sue, Peggy, Peggy,
and Sue.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
This all starts before I dug into our finances. Peggy
made a very ugly comment on my business Facebook under
one of my product posts. What she said was referring
to the only argument my husband mentioned to mother in
law as the main thing she did to piss me off,
So it was obvious that this was Peggy's way of
retaliation on mother in law's behalf. After she was told
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I was still pissed and proved mother in law was
running her mouth. At that point, Peggy gets blocked on
Facebook as well as her husband, all her sons and
their kids. I've never met these people in the four
years I've been the family, so no lass to me.
After Peggy is blocked, she reached out to my husband
wanting pictures of our son because she couldn't find my
Facebook anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
He told her no and muted her.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
So Peggy goes to mother in law asking her for
pictures because my husband said no, and I blocked her.
My husband told his mother she couldn't have pictures to
send to Peggy, but we were later told by sister
in law and brother in law that it happened anyway.
I talked to my husband and decided not to block
her completely to avoid an argument, but she'd be blocked
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from baby pictures and posts and would be finally cut
off from him. So six months rolled around and I
made a post with family pictures and pool pictures because
I was scared to post at all for over a
month after the drama. Then my husband gets a message
from mother in law that Sue said something about little
one's six month pictures, but I can't find them. Do
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you know why. My husband tells her that she's on
an information and picture diet until she can respect boundaries.
Then Sue sends mother in law the pictures, and mother
in law sends them to Peggy and accidentally sends one
to my husband trying to send.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
To father in law. Nice, good job, great.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Job, because she has them both saved in her phone
at yeah, person, i'm scamming one in person, I'm scaming two.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
So Sue gets blocked.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
After this mother in law tries to get my husband
to give her the address of our RV park so
she can visit in three days despite our seven days
or more rule. My husband tells her I'm not home
and that I'm house sitting for my mom for two weeks.
Mother in law then start saying how that has to
upset him, that I'm always taking little one away from
him and that he must miss little one. She was
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trying to start a fight between us and insinuating that
I do things without talking to my husband. First, your
mother in law said that.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
She was like, yes, don't you want to fight your
husband because he does things without asking you?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Well, now she's saying that OP does things without asking her, usb.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Don't you want to fight with your wife son because
she does things as a woman, which is.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Pretty hypocritical, seeing as she's been sending all that money
without asking your husband. She has accused me of spending
his money without permission, pretty ironic and laughed in my
face when I said I never spend anything without asking. First,
my husband shut her down and said he was glad
I was in a real house with good ac we're
full time, our veers on the road for work. This
is about the time I started digging into the money issue.
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After hearing what she tried to do, we talked again
and I blocked her completely.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Wait, if you're full time.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Our veers, do you are you like transporting horses? What
is your job?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
How do you have horses?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
If you're like moving constantly, I'm going to horses. Yeah,
I'm going to assume that you're transporting horses and.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
That's your job, Dwayne.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
So this week, father in law tells my husband that
my mother in law said she can't see my stuff
on Facebook. She must have blocked mother in law When
my husband said okay, father in law asked, do you
know anything about that? So here we go again with
them saying I do stuff without consulting my husband the
fourth time in the issues mentioned in this post. But
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this time mother in law couldn't even do it herself.
She sent father in law to get us, which is
what happened with the gender reveal argument. When she doesn't
get her way on her own with us, she tries
to use father in law to muscle us. When my
husband won't muscle me, she tries to get father in
law to muscle me. She's an arc control freak and
father in law is her minion lapdog. We little one
(16:09):
and I are completely no contact with mother in law.
Why is there so much contact happening? Then, I guess
it's just with the father in law who keeps messaging you.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Sometimes it's hard.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I don't know, it's hard. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Man, he just doesn't know.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
My husband only has contact, do have access to father
in law. My husband is ready to drop mother in
law completely over what she's been saying about me. There's
a lot she's said to him and been saying to
family that no one will tell me personally because they
don't want me to get pissed again. I'm still furious
that through all this BS, she is standing firm on
her I never have to apologize Mountain, even at the
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expense of never being able to see her only blood grandchild.
She's literally sixty six to sixty seven and only seeing
her coming one year old grandchild four times because she
couldn't respect boundaries. I don't want her in her lives
at all, but the fact she is stubborn enough to
give up a relationship with my adorable baby boy is unbelievable,
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all because it was beneath her to simply reach out
to me about what was wrong or how to mend
the fence. But there is a little bit left to
this story. Any final thoughts, No, he ain't got no
final thoughts. My final thoughts are that you gotta get
rid of her on your bank account.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
That's number one.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yes, it's just been an ongoing, ongoing thought.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Manage your own account and.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Then really cut them off because it seems like we're
going havesies and we can't. These aren't the type of
people to go havesies on because they're just gonna work.
If you're still in contact with the von La.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I mean, like, I know that you're I get. I
mean you said that you like.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Him and your husband likes him, so I guess that's
just really difficult when you want contact with one parent
and then you have.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Another parent who just sucks good luck. That's my final thought.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I think I'm gonna have to read like this. It's fine, we.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Have a little bit left.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
We literally went from close i'd even say close friends
to her calling me a gold digger lazy, which baby
trapped him after being together three months, living together nine
and telling her son that him marrying me put him
in debt. I consider her reaction a win for me,
and I'm glad, but I also am sad for my
husband because he sees my mom, dad, granddad, stepmom, stepdad,
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and both sets of step grands, four sets of step
aunts and step siblings and cousins step and blood who
love our son like he's their blood family.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Why did you feel bad about that? Yeah, shouldn't that
be like a well, thank goodness. Yeah, you even know
his own parents kinda don't show up. You have an
entire extended family people to make up for it.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
I like how.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Also it was like specific of the numbers, which is
really funny, like, yeah, all these people love you.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
He's perfect, while his own mother can't even respect his
mother for an opportunity to know him. It's really just
sad that she allowed her need to control my husband's
life ruin our relationship, and she let our ruined relationship
ruin her chance out a relationship with our son and
future kids. And that is the end of that story.
Good luck with your mother in law, good luck with
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your bank account.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And goodbye that story.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yep, and we're going to get into another story.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
In a moment, my mother in law discovered that I
have a friends with benefits.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Oh ah, new life, moved to new country.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Now, before you assume I twenty eight female am cheating,
I'm not. My husband thirty male was the type that
believed in no spicy time.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Before marriage.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
When we started dating, everything was perfect except this, and
I accepted it since I really liked him, and soon we.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Fell in love.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
After marriage, she slowly realized that he's really not that
interested in spicy sleep whatsoever, and some therapy he helped
us realize that he's on the A spectrum or ACE spectrum.
This was a major disappointment for me since I was
looking forward to having spicy sleep with him for a
very long time.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
By the way, this comes from Matta s w And
if you.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Want to submit your own stories, could be the r
slash Okay Storytime Separate.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I'm Sophia, I'm Dakota, I'm key On, and we're.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Here to give good advice goofy, but we don't have
all the answers. We only know what we'd do. Let
us know what you would do in the comments and
opisas I couldn't leave him for this since I was
and still am in love with him. So we worked
out a solution that all have a friends with benefits
twenty five mail for my spicy related needs, and we
set proper boundaries. We did this two years ago, and
(20:42):
so far our life together has been very good. This
has always been something between us, so nobody else knew.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Well.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Out of some freak accident and me not being as
careful as I should have been, mother in law figured
out what's going on. I said something that's raised suspicion,
and she dug deep for weeks until she found out.
Now she's threatening me to tell everyone what's going on.
My husband has talked to her, telling her that it's
a mutual decision and none of her business, but she's
(21:13):
not having it. She's demanding that one I confess my
sins to the church, and two stop doing it, and
three future kids will only be accepted in the family
if we provide paternity tests. Wait, what, dude, folks, did
they even want to have kids?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
We don't like she's just assuming so.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Much like you can adopt what's going on here? Yikes?
I don't like any of this.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, well, I like opian Opie's partner's relationship seems like
they've got it all sorted out. I don't like the
mother in law getting involved. I said what I said,
Otherwise she will tell everyone. That will be a disaster.
Since we live in a very religious and conservative community.
I work for a church, and it almost certainly means
I'll lose my job and we will lose most of
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our friends as well. I don't want it to happen.
We really have no idea how to avoid the situation.
We have some relevant comments, but I mean, if your
mother in law is super religious, I don't know how
you could lie to her, but she might if if
she found out once, feel like she might find out again.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
I feel like you should just bother. You should be like, ah,
now I have three friends with benefits. Yeah, I have
seven friends with benefits. I don't know, And they have
seven friends with benefits, and we're gonna have a million
babies together, and we've all got gonna be here on things.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
They're all million babies with benefits.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah, they've all got dental and healthcare, so many benefits.
I think that you should consider moving if it does
kind of blow up in that way, because it seems
like it's just not the most welcoming or I don't know,
accepting place.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
That you're living in very hostile.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, Like if something about your relationship that's you know,
they're a private would make people stop being friends with
you and people fired you from a job, maybe, I
don't know, it would suck obviously, like your mother in
law has no right to say any of that, but
I think, like, maybe prepare for the worst case scenario.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Yeah, I can see her try and talk her down
like her, Ohpie's mom just spreading it, spreading around.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Yeah, Oh have you heard?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Oh you see her with any any other male? Yeah,
even though female, just anyone out there. She's just probably
thinking that could be a friend with benefit.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Timit says not to bunch you when you're down, But
how would she able to dig deep everything short of
a private detective?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
And you were being way way bad at hiding this.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
For God's sakes, people managed to hide these things from
their own partners. The only reason I'm saying this is,
of course you don't stop, you just cover your tracks better.
I'm assuming you don't have to confess in public. Then
the only thing that matters is just hiding it better.
And could you for your own sanity, then maybe work
on getting less conservative of friends and maybe finding another job.
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That's kind of my thought process. It's like, why do
we want to be friends with people that we have
to hide. I mean, again, these aren't details that your
friends need to know because it is quite personal. But
also I wouldn't want to be with friends with people
that were that judgmental and never see your husband's family again.
How is he taking the fact that your mother is
threatening to sabotage your entire life? By the way, he
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should be furious because after this, you're never gonna be accepted.
Even if she doesn't out you in public, she'll know,
she'll gossip, she'll dig yep. So either you get your
husband to keep his side of the family in line
or make sure you don't need that side of the family.
And Ope responds, she followed me after work for days.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Like I said, I called, it's your mother in law
is crazy.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Yeah, her mother in law, Opie's mother in law is
gonna just anytime she sees Opie with anybody, she's just
gonna follow you. Take a take a picture, write it down,
description everything, and be like oh that's them, or like
this is that's personalnumber one.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
That's person number two.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
That's crazy what she followed me after work for days,
basically played private detective herself because she suspected that I
was cheating. I wasn't very careful at hiding it since
I never thought anyone would care to even look into me.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
I was wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
He is furious at his mother, but we both understand
that anger will not solve anything, so we're trying to
be pragmatic. We want to avoid as much harm as possible,
and in the long term, I should find a new job,
and maybe we should expand our social circles to include
more open minded people.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I think so well. We got some more comments La
Mama Loka.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Is she going to expose the identity of your friends
with benefits too? How might this affect him? Oh, he says.
We talked to him as well. This won't affect him much.
He's not in our normal social circle and his place
of work will not care at all. Shadow ban Hand says,
what a vile woman. If your husband can't convince his
own mother to not blow up your life, I don't
think there's anything you can do. Your mother in law
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will never let this go and use this information to
blackmail you for decades. Do not think for a second
that if you comply with her demands that there won't
be more demands after that, over and over again, This
information will get out eventually, and OP says, Yeah, that's
why we can't just give into her demands. There will
be more, especially when we have kids. We're trying to
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find a solution that doesn't mean total disaster, and.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
We can't seem to find it.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Mantra one eighty seven says, could your husband threaten her
right back by withholding all future access to her grandkids
if she doesn't keep this secret? But honestly, I fear
you're ft either way. Your husband needs to deal with this,
but you've been playing with fire doing what you're doing.
In this kind of community, secrets like these always come out,
and with judgmental people that surround you, it won't end well. Unfortunately.
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I suggest you prepare for the worst. Oh Pi says
we threatened her back with that. She isn't afraid because
in her mind they won't even be her grandkids. Even
if we give her a paternity test, she won't believe
the test given her paranoia. Pseudonymous, My husband was the
type that believed and knows spicy before marriage. When we
started dating, everything was perfect except this. No, he was
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in his late twenties when this friends with benefits arrangement started.
He didn't slowly realize he was not interested in spicy
sleep after you married him. This is not a revelation
that first occurs to you in your mid twenties.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Well, as he already said, he waited until marriage. I
sy that. Yeah, I hate.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
One of the commentary is, yeah, no, he can't know
about his ace identity.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I know better than him.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
He slowly revealed to you that he wasn't interested in
spicy sleep after he had gotten you to marry him.
I hate that comment.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
And it comes Opie's counter argument, which I'm so ready for.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Oh Pi says, he always believed that things will change
after marriage, as he was led to believe that. After marriage,
he realized that things weren't going to change. He didn't
deceive me in any way. I don't doubt sincerity for
one second. I was right there with him with his
struggles to deal with this. And there is an update.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I did not like that comment. It's stupid.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
I love when the commentars are like, I know better
than you. Because I'm in his shoes. That's me.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I literally grew up in the Catholic Church, and I
will say it can go either way. I grew up
thinking that I was ACE or on that spectrum. And
then you know, you like start having experiences, but like you,
you find yourself and you realize, oh, I'm no longer
in this incredibly religious you know, grasp community and just space,
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and you realize certain things about yourself. But I've also
had the total opposite end of that for friends who
have you know, been either had experiences or had not
had experiences and thought that they would eventually like it
and then realize, oh, that's not for me at all.
There is no time limit. You can realize that much later,
you can realize it much earlier. You can change your
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mind about it. It is not a rigid thing. And
I hate the idea that this commenture thinks that they
know better than your first.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Point that you just made is exactly what I'm trying
to say.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
No, and I agree, it's like as soon as he
gets at because he's never been he's never been out
of this environment, he's never been away from these people,
he's never been away from these ideas.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
And it feels like inevitably they will move.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Away from this place and these people because it's antithetical
to the way they're living life right now. Yeah, and
then I feel like once he gets that distance, there
might be a high probability that he's like, wait, wait
a minute, I don't know if anything in my life
makes sense anymore.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
No. And I agree that when you are in a
very religious, you know, place that you and then get
out of it, that your you know, your identity can
completely change. I guess my point is just that we
haven't seen any evidence that he's not.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Happy with that.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
And also I think it's pretty like I think that
the idea that I think that there are people who
are ACE because that's just kind of how it played
out and that's just who they are and there was
no negative impact that made them that way, and that
would you know. But I also think I think that
it's a really real thing to have a kind of
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trauma from growing up in a hot like a purity
culture that tells you that this is terrible and if
you do this, you're going to hell. And I think
a lot of people have come out who are ACE.
Because they've had that experience. So yeah, like, I'm not
knocking your point. I'm just saying like, here it does
seem like I'm happy with this identity.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
More referencing to the people, to the beautiful people.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, Kim Robert says, I need more info. If you're ACE,
does that mean you don't like spicy sleep? Or can
you be attracted romantically and just not physically? So ACE
is a spectrum, so.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Is your place with the just don't It means that
you usually.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
You would say a romantic if you weren't into you know,
people are like if you weren't into like romantic extraction,
but a sexuality, it means usually that there's some kind
of aversion to spicy sleep. So for example, there are
some people that if you're demi sexual to some people
that are only interested in spicy sleep if they have
a romantic attraction. There are some people that are only
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into it sometimes but they would prefer not like they
don't need it. There's some people that are completely spicy
sleep averse and don't.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Ever want to do it. So it really ranges.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
And then there's the spade and the club and the
heart and the diamond, and there you go, and you've
got two jokers as well.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
But yeah, can like everything else. Is it a spectrum,
Yes exactly, and it's very different for everyone. Everyone experiences
a sexuality differently, Yes they do.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
But we've got an update.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Oh John, Oh Sam, I love you so much. I
love you almost as much as the great stories that
are about to come up.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
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happily ever after. Sixteen days later, so she told everyone unsurprising,
but that sucks. That made us explain to people what's
going on, and surprisingly people weren't all that bad.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Okay jokes on her.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
We lost about half of our friends, but others basically
said none of their business and they don't care. We
underestimated some of our friends. We decided to cut off
mother in law and everyone who sided with her.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
But there is a little bit left to the story.
Any final thoughts.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I hope it all turns out well.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I feel like now that she can't hold anything over
you and you know who your true friends are, I
think your life is just going.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
To be better.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
I feel like that yes, it's the cats out of
the bag, and everyone's like, especially your friends, are like, yeah,
we don't care, You're happy, you guys seem good cool,
keep doing your thing. Yeah, and that you can be
like more comfortable with those people, which is great.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
My sister in law was the last person who I
thought would come on our side, but she did. She
called and defended us and told us that she'll join
us in cutting off her mother since this could have
easily been her instead of her brother. But I lost
my job. Church basically had to let me go since
people wanted me gone, So that also happened. I'm now
looking for a new job. Mother in law also went
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to my friends with benefits to confront him. He shut
the door on her face and told her to f off.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Actually pretty funny.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Yeah, just just someone who really thinks they have like
a thirty on everything.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Do you think the mom the mother in law, was like,
do you want to be friends with benefits?
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
No, she was probably there with like one of those
like holy water scepters.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah, she just goes repent. She demon God spitting on me.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
He should just gone.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Oh deleted says she actually went to your friends with
benefits house. Wow, I actually think this went sort of well.
Losing your job sucks, but the fact that you did
lose your job because of your private personal life means
this wasn't the job for you. Now you know who
your friends are and that you still have friends, You
have a better relationship with sister in law, and you
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can cut mother in law out of your life with
no more debate or guilt. So congrats, oh Pisa. She
blames him for seducing me. She thinks I met a
hot guy, lost my mind over, and then gilted my
husband into accepting this arrangement. So she thinks your friends
with benefit is the serpent from the Bible. Balila Lina says,
out of curiosity, care to explain how you found your
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friends with benefits?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Oh p says online dating. I made a profile and
wrote what I'm after.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Out of hundreds of people who contacted me, I went
on dates with about fifteen people until I found someone
I liked and could connect with. It was a great
arrangement for both of us, since he wanted a lover
for spicy sleep and physical intimacy, but not a relationship.
I then invited him to meet my husband and after
He told me that he likes him and gave me
the go ahead. I went on further dates with friends
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with benefits, and we eventually started having spicy sleep. Once
we both realized this could work long term, we sat down,
worked out boundaries, and it's working very well for us.
Philide It says, Ope, I remember your original post. May
I ask what you said that tipped her off in
the first place. I was really curious about that.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Oh, p says.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
It was about polygamy. She was saying how wrong it is,
and I just added a comment that is, as it's
consenting adults, it shouldn't matter. We had a few back
and forth and I dropped it, but my answers made
her suspicious. Make me a star says, are you still
going to attend the church? I mean, a church is
a community which is hard to leave. But they just
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took your job away. Oh, he says, of course not.
I'm not even religious. Church was just a well paying
job for me. That's a crazy reveal.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah, that's that's a not even religious after I old wow,
final sentence.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Yeah, good luck go pee. Well, seems like you're on
the right track.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yeah, so go after it. Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
But we've got another's story.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
My mother in law keeps disfavoring my daughter favor. This
happened last Christmas and it still eats.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
At me in those rare moments when all is calm
in my household.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
I want to preface the story with the fact that
I understand people have different ideas of what makes gifting fair.
While her method is not my of tea, It's not
up to me to dictate how other people give. It's
not the how, but the when and the impact it
had that I'm struggling to decide what to do about.
By the way, this comes from user adulting is trifficult.
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Speaker 1 (36:20):
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I'm Dakota, I'm.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Sophia, I'm Keon, and we're here.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
To give you our best advice.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
But we haven't experienced most of these situations ourselves, so
if you have, let us know in the comments and
op says. I also want to say that I don't
expect people to love step family the same as biofamily.
I'm a fairly logical person I understand that it's awesome
when they do love family the same, regardless of step
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or biostatus, but it's also natural to favor biofamily. I
do expect some amount of decorum and for the favoritism
not to be palpable to the children.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Maybe I expect too much from some people. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I just think that when you get with a person
and you have kids already, I don't really know if
I would want to get with a person who didn't
have like a very strong connection.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
With my kids, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
I mean like, I think it's the most reasonable and
simple thought of all time to be like, yeah, you
shouldn't make my kids feel like they're less than other people.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, they should just be simple kids.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Some relevant context, my hubby and I have been together
for five years. I have an eight year old from
my previous marriage, and we have a two year old together.
Hubby is a good step parent and loves my kid
like she was his own. My mother in law and
I get along great for the most part. She is
loud and opinionated, which can get irritating at times, but
she's a nice person in general, and also claims to
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love my oldest as her own grandchild. Not sure if
it's relevant context, so I'm sharing in case people think
it is. I have had to correct her when she's
overstepped my parenting boundary. She does the same with sister
in law and brother in law and their kids who
are two under six years old, but they don't say anything.
They just complained to Hubby about it later. She's backed
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off since I called her out on it, but continues
to interfere with sister and brother in law's parenting because
they don't God bliss less, sneezer, You'll rename you sneezy. Oh,
I thought you were producing.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
I have a headache.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Onto the events leading up to Christmas, all the kids
created their wish lists with the help of us parents.
Mother in law reached out to me to ask if
a gift she picked out that wasn't on the list
would be liked by my eight year old.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I said that she would love it and it was
a great idea.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
She said, since it was a large item, it would
set the price for that year's gift tall for all
the grandkids. Mother in law's of the opinion that spending
the same amount of money on each kid keeps it fair,
even though the younger children get a higher quantity, as generally,
wish lists get more expensive as the kids get older.
Not my idea of what makes it fair, but again
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not my place to tell other people how to gift.
This would be the first time her method would result
in some kids only getting one gift. Since I've been
going to family Christmas, I think there there is a
certain age when that kind of makes sense. Maybe eight's
a little early, yeah, because then it does like you know,
at that age it's like, wait, but look, they have
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more and you can't really be like, yeah, but yours
cost the same amount as all of them. But they're like,
but they got to open seven things and I only
got to open two or one thing.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Yeah, it wasn't as fun.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
I remember as a kid being like, wait, I want
to open just I want to open like, I just
want to open things.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah, let me open things. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
So but if that's how you yeah, I don't know.
I guess it's true that even if that is how
you felt, it's.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Like not your place.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
But at the same time, she did ask you yes,
so it was the floor was open for you to
be like she would like it. But I don't know
if she would like only opening one gift, yeah, you know,
so maybe spread it out even though she would like that,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Fast forward to Christmas Day family gathering.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
On the way over, I explained to my daughter the
method mother in law use to buy gifts so she
wouldn't be blindsided when she only got one and the
younger kids got a few more than her.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
I didn't spoil the surprise of the gift.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
I was trying to get ahead of the disappointment I
knew would come from only getting one. I don't know
if that was the right move. I think that might
have been a wait and see how she handles it,
and if she doesn't handle it well, then you try
to like damage control, teach the lesson of like, hey,
sometimes less is more. Sometimes hey, the quality of this
thing is actually, you know, when you look at what
they got, I know they will and we'll I'll wrap whatever.
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You'd be like, if you're sad you didn't get to
open more stuff, I'll wrap up some trinkets for you
or something, or you could do that. But I don't
think prefacing was maybe the right move.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
I think it could be potentially good if she knows
that her daughter would throw a fit about her, hopefully not.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Throw a fit like Jeff Goldbloom.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Mm hmm, he's always throwing fits. Substantish.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
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Speaker 4 (41:12):
She was a little bummed, but took it pretty well
overall and said she understood gift opening time arrives, kids
start opening gifts.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Oldest opened her one gift. Sister in law and brother
in law's oldest also gets the same big gift Q.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Both toddlers oh getting a plethora of gifts a ten
to one ratio compared to the older kids. Mother in
law had gotten cheap knockoffs of toys so she could
get more for the set price.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
That year.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Daughter enjoyed helping her sibling open their gifts since they
hadn't figured out how to remove wrapping paper yet, and
was showing them how to use each one. Crisis successfully
averted so far. Nephew did not take it so well
that he only got one while his sibling got more
and started to loudly whine and fuss about it.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Yeah, yea, so it seems like you prepped your daughter
better than he was prepped.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Oh he's also younger.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
No, he's a lizard, that's what he is. He's a
freaking baby.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Yeah, what he is. That's just true. That is true.
This is a baby.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
It's a baby.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
I don't fault him for this. I guarantee no one
explained it to him beforehand. And I get that kids
see fairness in quantity, since quality and monetary value are
less tangible. Hence why I told my kid beforehand. The
next part is where I have a problem. Mother in
law pulls out more gifts for my nephew.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
What okay? So not not the not the agreed arrangement.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
No, my daughter saw it and got visibly upset, though
no one else seemed to pick up on it. She
asked me why he got more if he got the
same big gift as her, and she reiterated.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Mother in law's rule. He started to gently cry, and
I had no words. It hurt my heart.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
I couldn't explain it because, as my daughter pointed out,
mother in law broke her own rule. When people do
crappy things, my auto response is to tell her that
some people just suck sometimes and I didn't want to
say that about my mother in law, even if it
was true. In that moment, I just hugged her and
tried to redirect to something else. Eventually, the kids all
ran off to play with other things. She had asked
within earshot of mother in law. Mother in law said
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nothing and acted as if she hadn't heard or seen
my daughter crying. Maybe she didn't, I don't know. She
broke her own rule, the one she expressed over and
over again and heavily emphasized with so much pride that
it was how she was keeping things fair, and she
did so to the detriment of my daughter's feelings.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I think that Opie's plan to like pretty proud her
daughter would have been perfectly fine if mother in law
hadn't lied. So it really sucks that she lied, and
it seems like what we're gonna learn is that she
did it because Opie's step or this is step granddaughter. Yeah,
which really sucks. And I think that Opia has the
right idea of just saying, sometimes people do mean stuff
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and we can't really control them, and we just have
to kind of move forward and maybe let's go get
ice cream.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
It's like you watch an etic code does not match
the gift registry.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yeah, you cannot foresee a second gift.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Your thumbprint didn't work. Sorry, no gift for you.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah. Just lame. Yeah, just a lame thing to do
to a child.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Eight year old?
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Children an eight year old. I haven't flipped around and
be like, dang mother in law, you're really that broke.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Yeah, I can't afford it.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Yeah, mother in law, a little giftee. Dang mother in law,
I didn't know you were broke like that.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
You need you want to you want a twenty dollars
bill from me here, Hey, merry Christmas, use an Abraham Lincoln,
go buy yourself some nice Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
You should just not get her a gift.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
And when she's like, why didn't you get me a gift,
you're like, oh, well we're not, we're not related.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah. I do hope that she is immediately.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
Ope, I do hope you did take her aside, because
you've already called her out and you and you take
her side and you go, yeah, I see exactly what
you're doing here.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
It's not cool, And honestly, I think you should feel
a little disgusted with yourself. This is a child.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
I agree I think we need it.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Do not want all of the children to feel welcome
in the family.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Definitely get your partner involved, let him know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Yeah, but we do have a little more story. See's up.
Stop it all off.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
As I was looking at the gifts the two toddlers
were getting, I noticed half of them weren't from their
own wish lists, but from my daughter's list. So not
only did she make my daughter feel like she was
worth less than her cousin's on Christmas Day, my daughter
had to watch her cousin and sibling get some of
the things she had wanted.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Is it just my inner mama bear.
Speaker 4 (45:27):
Overreacting or should I do slash say something As we're
approaching the prep season for next Christmas?
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Move in the shadows? How do I get past this?
Speaker 4 (45:36):
My daughter hasn't brought it up since, but I'm still
irked by it, and that is the end of that story.
I do think your daughter is probably pretty resilient and
gonna be fine. That's why I that's my whole point
of like maybe waiting, just like to wait and see
how she reacts and then judge, Like, all right, what
level of like like nurturing or shielding is really necessary here.
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It seems like she processed that pretty well and almost
like opening those gifts even though they were things that
she might have wanted.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
It sounds like your daughter would be.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
The kind of person who'd be like, Oh, this is
such a good this is so cool, this is something
I wanted. You're gonna really like this because I would
have really liked this, So you're gonna like it, and
that means just means you're raising a good kid.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
I think that it seems like your daughter is doing gray.
I think that she's gonna be fine from this experience. However,
it is definitely something you need to address with your
partner and mother in law because it's only gonna get
worse and more obvious as she grows older.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
It's something that's gonna get worse over time. Yeah, so
it's something that needs to be called out.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Nah pretty fast.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
Yeah, and yeah, I think you're right that I would
call them out as a team. Yeah, one hundred and
maybe even get like brother in law sister in law involved. Yeah,
you know whoever the relevant parties are just sit down
and be like, hey, we need to talk about how
you behave with the kids, But that is the end
of that story and the end of
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
My mother in law use my husband to steal from
her own husband.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
It's husband on husband crime.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
My mother in law has been using my husband's account
to send herself money.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Oh, fraudulent husband on husband crime.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
My husband has.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Had hard times over the years with work, and during
that time his dad helped him through. You would send
him money for bills he couldn't make between checks. My
mother in law, who keeps my father in law's books balanced,
had access to my husband's account because he opened it
at sixteen.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Have you ever balanced books?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
No?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Oh well yeah on my head? Oh bye bay.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
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Speaker 3 (00:54):
I'm Sophia, I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Dakota, I'm Keon, and we're here to give good advice goofully.
But we don't have all the answers. We only know
what we'd do, So let us know what you would
do in the comments, and OPI says, so my mother
in law was the one sending my husband his dad's
money and would take the money out of my husband's
account as repayment. Seems like a kind, thoughtful mom right
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until the truth comes out. Ever since I married my husband,
she started coming up with crazy amounts of money that
my husband hasn't paid.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
First, twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Is this like one of those like you need to
repay us for your existence time scenarios?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
But I'm wondering how she's even, you know, bringing that up,
because it's pretty easy to know whether or not you
owe someone twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah, like on paper like a handshake. I don't know what.
If that's legit debt then whatever. I doubt it.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
But if it's not, I always love the flipping that
on its head of like, well, we raised you, you
owe us this money, We paid all.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
This money for you.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I'm like, you actually owe me because of all the
traumas I've lived through. I didn't ask for that, So
I'm gonna need ten grand for that. I'm gonna need
fifteen grand for this other one.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I feel like the jokes will bounce out.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Tammy broke up with me in front of everyone in
my high school class.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I didn't ask for that.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Tammy pay me twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Then the final number she's claiming now is fifty seven
thousand dollars that my husband owes his dad. Well, I
call bs, and so did my oblivious husband. He asked
me to figure it out as I have taken over
keeping his account and kicked her off because she was
caught lying about us spending father in law's money. I
feel like the men in this story need to start
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looking at their accounts.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
NA do it just Japanese style?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Is that?
Speaker 5 (02:44):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Y'all don't know? No, in Japan, it's.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Uh, that's what we ask normal for the husband or
the man in a relationship to not really no handle
any of the finances.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
That's all up to his wife, Laies, the lady of
the house.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Well, I guess we're in Japan.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
She had already stolen money from me personally from my
husband's account while we were dating.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
What so?
Speaker 5 (03:10):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Like, are we not?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Why are we so chill about this?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Why do they have access to our accounts?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah? My money is still missing from her records and
was never paid to me or my husband. I didn't
fight it because I was in college, was engaged to
her son, and wanted to keep the peace, even though
I was pissed. I go through the numbers on the
account and compare them to what she has hand written.
She is telling father in law my husband is only
paid him thirteen thousand, when she has taken sixty seven
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thousand from the account. She sends all the money to
my husband from one account father in laws, but she
puts the repayments into five different accounts that.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Aren't father in laws.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Her name is on them, so we are obviously pissed.
Then we compare the bills she has listed and we
realize we have repaid five thousand too much. Today, while
looking over everything, I find where she sent fifty two
thousand dollars to my husband from father in law. I
call my husband. He says he doesn't know. I dig
more and look up everything from that day and find
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a check written for fifty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
How do you not know you were sent fifty grands.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I really don't understand who is looking at your money,
or your funds or your bank account because oh, piece
said that in the beginning, she was like, well, his
mom has access to his account because he was sixteen
when it started. As if you can't get a new
account or even take someone off of the account.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Yeah, I know that it is. I know that it's weird.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Though.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
If it starts as a like a you're a minor
and you start an account with a parent, it can
be weird to get them taken off or like have
their control taken out.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
You can get a new account and start putting your
money in.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
That one, but I don't think you can take the
money from that account and put it into a new
one without.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Their name on it.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I'm pretty sure you can't.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
No, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure there's
restrictions when you have multiple I think when your names
on an account that one of them was in when
it was started when you were a miner, which is dumb.
But I just once you're an adult, you should be
able to be like, I'm not a miner anymore. But
it's like, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I could be wrong. I don't know. If somebody check me,
check me in the comments.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
We look through all our checkbooks and it didn't come
from what he has, but they were all mailed to
mother in law's house, so she had them before us. Y'all,
are they're you're getting your checkbooks mailed to her house.
Go to your bank today, say hey, I want to
open up a new account. I don't know, ask them
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how I get my money out from my mom's shared
account with me, and.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Then change your address. Y'all? Are what are you doing?
Fix this?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Okay? I'm wrong?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, no, I was gonna say, because when I because
I stayed in an account and it was.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Pretty easy to transfer.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Okay, like unless unless they said maybe maybe, Like what
you're thinking is if Opie's husband said I want to
transfer this money and then the mom was like no.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
But also that would be crazy if she said that.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah I can I can't imagine if you haven't any
well maybe I don't know. Maybe there it's equal.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I then looked up where we were the week the
check was written, and we can prove we didn't write
a check at the time.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I mean, yeah, all this should be very provable because
like it's it's financial records like that.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
The bank would have record if these checks were cashed
or deposited.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
So not only can we prove she's used my husband's
account to steal money from father in law, but we
can prove she stole fifty two thousand dollars from father
in law and use my husband to do it. She
also stole three K from my husband, plus the four
K we can track that she stole over a three
year period on top of the fifty seven k. She's
trying to make my husband pay her. You guys need
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like a money guy. Let's get an accountant money person
in there.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, call mister money man, Please have him money your money.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
My husband called his oblivious father, who said, I don't
know about her sending you fifty two K or why
she would use your checks.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You'll have to talk to her. This guy is stupid.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You just told him that she stole fifty two thousand
dollars from him, and he.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Was like, I don't know, ask her about that.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I wish I was in a place where I could
be this flip at about fifty grand.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah, everyone just seems to be like em, No, kick
it down the line, somebody else will take care. Yes.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I don't know. Which confuses me because it seems like
Op and her husband have been borrowing money, right the
parents if they're not surprised that they owe anything and
yet are so chill about giving away all this and
this money being thousands of dollars being stolen, Yeah, what's
going on? My husband is furious and said he was
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done with mother in law and isn't paying her anything else.
He also told his dad that he's going to take
the missing five k as him buying the machine he's
been borrowing from his dad for work. Then my husband
called his mom to get her story. When I saw
she used his account to steal fifty two thousand dollars
from his dad, I literally threw up my father in law.
He's surprisingly nice, but his wife is a witch. Advice Please,
(08:04):
I gave you all of my advice, but my advice
for UOP is to immediately separate your funds from your
mother in law. Don't know why you haven't done that yet? Crazy, Well,
I'm pretty sure. Well, yeah, you can't talk about it yet,
I'll keep talking. When I turned eighteen, I don't think
my parents had access to my bank account anymore. We
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separated that, and obviously my parents were supportive and helpful
in doing that because I was eighteen and didn't really
know how to do all that. So he clearly didn't
have that. But now he has you a supportive partner,
and we should get on that.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
And that's my thoughts.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah, well, I think all of this is going back
to you probably really you are borrowing this money from
your father, but she's using the repayment as her own
personal funds.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, so he's not really getting paid maid back. I
don't know. It feels like she could just ask her
husband for money.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
It feels like he doesn't care.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Yeah, it feels like if she was like, can I
have eight thousand dollars, he'd be like, yeah, I mean
that's why I'm gonna have access to our bank account.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
I'm kind of getting to sense they're a little like
maybe rich. Like like the fact that the money can
go like from twenty to fifty and then more and
then more. It's like, what are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, we aren't pursuing it legally. Father in law is
staying with mother in law and he firmly believes she
didn't steal money from many of us. He claims the
fifty payments we made equivalent to thirty five thousand she
doesn't account for.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Was a mistake. This guy's his brain is full of rocks.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
I mean, it's easier to be unbothered by that than
to try to like deal with it. So I can't
understand that from a certain perspective, especially if it's like
he's like, I don't know, she's just being freaking weird
and honestly, this amount of money doesn't even affect me.
If that's the case, yeah, then he's like, yeah, I
don't know, she probably just made a miss.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I don't care, but I can't take all my money.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I agree with that point, but it seems like he's
also saying that she didn't even steal their money.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I don't know she didn't do that because.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
He said he said, he claims the fifty payments we made.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Yeah, but I think he I think he's still accepting
because it's like whit He said that they were buying
the machine from him that he had been using too.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
He's like, all right, yeah, whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Man just doesn't care about anything.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, my husband is tired of arguing. After a week
straight of her saying or of the seven accounts aren't hers,
she sent us pictures of her account numbers, and literally
all seven of the accounts have her name on them.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
What a dumb lie to try to pull off.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
My husband said he's done and just isn't going to
pay anything else. We'll drop it until it's an issue again.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Okay, separate your accounts.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I have another post about my mother in law asking
my husband what she did to make me so mad.
She never reached out to me before or after their conversation,
and I've never received an apology or any attempt at reconciley.
The argument I'll talk about is the day of our
gender reveal, where father in law and mother in law
cornered us after my family left and demanded I sell
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my horses. This is why you guys.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Don't care about money.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Your horse rich, your horse people, your horse people rich people.
You're so rich, why would they be like you get
either the horses or the baby.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Cannot have both horses and the baby.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Now that we found out the gender of your baby,
you simply must sell those courses.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Now that we found out that your baby was not
a horse, it cannot hang out with the horses. We
were fingers crossed that you were gonna give birth to
a little horse baby, but it.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Kind of just the new drama involves the entire family.
Aunt one is the wife of father in law's brother.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
God, there's a new drama, aren't one.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
We're gonna call Peggy. Aunt two is the wife of
mother in law's brother.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Okay, so they're in Sue. We'll call her Sue, Peggy, Peggy,
and Sue.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
This all starts before I dug into our finances. Peggy
made a very ugly comment on my business Facebook under
one of my product posts. What she said was referring
to the only argument my husband mentioned to mother in
law as the main thing she did to piss me off,
So it was obvious that this was Peggy's way of
retaliation on mother in law's behalf. After she was told
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I was still pissed and proved mother in law was
running her mouth. At that point, Peggy gets blocked on
Facebook as well as her husband, all her sons and
their kids. I've never met these people in the four
years I've been the family, so no lass to me.
After Peggy is blocked, she reached out to my husband
wanting pictures of our son because she couldn't find my
Facebook anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
He told her no and muted her.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
So Peggy goes to mother in law asking her for
pictures because my husband said no, and I blocked her.
My husband told his mother she couldn't have pictures to
send to Peggy, but we were later told by sister
in law and brother in law that it happened anyway.
I talked to my husband and decided not to block
her completely to avoid an argument, but she'd be blocked
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from baby pictures and posts and would be finally cut
off from him. So six months rolled around and I
made a post with family pictures and pool pictures because
I was scared to post at all for over a
month after the drama. Then my husband gets a message
from mother in law that Sue said something about little
one's six month pictures, but I can't find them. Do
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you know why. My husband tells her that she's on
an information and picture diet until she can respect boundaries.
Then Sue sends mother in law the pictures, and mother
in law sends them to Peggy and accidentally sends one
to my husband trying to send.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
To father in law. Nice, good job, great.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Job, because she has them both saved in her phone
at yeah, person, i'm scamming one in person, I'm scaming two.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
So Sue gets blocked.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
After this mother in law tries to get my husband
to give her the address of our RV park so
she can visit in three days despite our seven days
or more rule. My husband tells her I'm not home
and that I'm house sitting for my mom for two weeks.
Mother in law then start saying how that has to
upset him, that I'm always taking little one away from
him and that he must miss little one. She was
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trying to start a fight between us and insinuating that
I do things without talking to my husband. First, your
mother in law said that.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
She was like, yes, don't you want to fight your
husband because he does things without asking you?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Well, now she's saying that OP does things without asking her, usb.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Don't you want to fight with your wife son because
she does things as a woman, which is.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Pretty hypocritical, seeing as she's been sending all that money
without asking your husband. She has accused me of spending
his money without permission, pretty ironic and laughed in my
face when I said I never spend anything without asking. First,
my husband shut her down and said he was glad
I was in a real house with good ac we're
full time, our veers on the road for work. This
is about the time I started digging into the money issue.
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After hearing what she tried to do, we talked again
and I blocked her completely.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Wait, if you're full time.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Our veers, do you are you like transporting horses? What
is your job?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
How do you have horses?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
If you're like moving constantly, I'm going to horses. Yeah,
I'm going to assume that you're transporting horses and.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
That's your job, Dwayne.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
So this week, father in law tells my husband that
my mother in law said she can't see my stuff
on Facebook. She must have blocked mother in law When
my husband said okay, father in law asked, do you
know anything about that? So here we go again with
them saying I do stuff without consulting my husband the
fourth time in the issues mentioned in this post. But
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this time mother in law couldn't even do it herself.
She sent father in law to get us, which is
what happened with the gender reveal argument. When she doesn't
get her way on her own with us, she tries
to use father in law to muscle us. When my
husband won't muscle me, she tries to get father in
law to muscle me. She's an arc control freak and
father in law is her minion lapdog. We little one
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and I are completely no contact with mother in law.
Why is there so much contact happening? Then, I guess
it's just with the father in law who keeps messaging you.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Sometimes it's hard.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I don't know, it's hard. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Man, he just doesn't know.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
My husband only has contact, do have access to father
in law. My husband is ready to drop mother in
law completely over what she's been saying about me. There's
a lot she's said to him and been saying to
family that no one will tell me personally because they
don't want me to get pissed again. I'm still furious
that through all this BS, she is standing firm on
her I never have to apologize Mountain, even at the
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expense of never being able to see her only blood grandchild.
She's literally sixty six to sixty seven and only seeing
her coming one year old grandchild four times because she
couldn't respect boundaries. I don't want her in her lives
at all, but the fact she is stubborn enough to
give up a relationship with my adorable baby boy is unbelievable,
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all because it was beneath her to simply reach out
to me about what was wrong or how to mend
the fence. But there is a little bit left to
this story. Any final thoughts, No, he ain't got no
final thoughts. My final thoughts are that you gotta get
rid of her on your bank account.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
That's number one.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yes, it's just been an ongoing, ongoing thought.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Manage your own account and.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Then really cut them off because it seems like we're
going havesies and we can't. These aren't the type of
people to go havesies on because they're just gonna work.
If you're still in contact with the von La.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I mean, like, I know that you're I get. I
mean you said that you like.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Him and your husband likes him, so I guess that's
just really difficult when you want contact with one parent
and then you have.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Another parent who just sucks good luck. That's my final thought.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I think I'm gonna have to read like this. It's fine, we.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Have a little bit left.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
We literally went from close i'd even say close friends
to her calling me a gold digger lazy, which baby
trapped him after being together three months, living together nine
and telling her son that him marrying me put him
in debt. I consider her reaction a win for me,
and I'm glad, but I also am sad for my
husband because he sees my mom, dad, granddad, stepmom, stepdad,
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and both sets of step grands, four sets of step
aunts and step siblings and cousins step and blood who
love our son like he's their blood family.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Why did you feel bad about that? Yeah, shouldn't that
be like a well, thank goodness. Yeah, you even know
his own parents kinda don't show up. You have an
entire extended family people to make up for it.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
I like how.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Also it was like specific of the numbers, which is
really funny, like, yeah, all these people love you.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
He's perfect, while his own mother can't even respect his
mother for an opportunity to know him. It's really just
sad that she allowed her need to control my husband's
life ruin our relationship, and she let our ruined relationship
ruin her chance out a relationship with our son and
future kids. And that is the end of that story.
Good luck with your mother in law, good luck with
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your bank account.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And goodbye that story.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yep, and we're going to get into another story.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
In a moment, my mother in law discovered that I
have a friends with benefits.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Oh ah, new life, moved to new country.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Now, before you assume I twenty eight female am cheating,
I'm not. My husband thirty male was the type that
believed in no spicy time.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Before marriage.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
When we started dating, everything was perfect except this, and
I accepted it since I really liked him, and soon we.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Fell in love.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
After marriage, she slowly realized that he's really not that
interested in spicy sleep whatsoever, and some therapy he helped
us realize that he's on the A spectrum or ACE spectrum.
This was a major disappointment for me since I was
looking forward to having spicy sleep with him for a
very long time.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
By the way, this comes from Matta s w And
if you.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Want to submit your own stories, could be the r
slash Okay Storytime Separate.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I'm Sophia, I'm Dakota, I'm key On, and we're.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Here to give good advice goofy, but we don't have
all the answers. We only know what we'd do. Let
us know what you would do in the comments and
opisas I couldn't leave him for this since I was
and still am in love with him. So we worked
out a solution that all have a friends with benefits
twenty five mail for my spicy related needs, and we
set proper boundaries. We did this two years ago, and
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so far our life together has been very good. This
has always been something between us, so nobody else knew.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Well.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Out of some freak accident and me not being as
careful as I should have been, mother in law figured
out what's going on. I said something that's raised suspicion,
and she dug deep for weeks until she found out.
Now she's threatening me to tell everyone what's going on.
My husband has talked to her, telling her that it's
a mutual decision and none of her business, but she's
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not having it. She's demanding that one I confess my
sins to the church, and two stop doing it, and
three future kids will only be accepted in the family
if we provide paternity tests. Wait, what, dude, folks, did
they even want to have kids?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
We don't like she's just assuming so.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Much like you can adopt what's going on here? Yikes?
I don't like any of this.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, well, I like opian Opie's partner's relationship seems like
they've got it all sorted out. I don't like the
mother in law getting involved. I said what I said,
Otherwise she will tell everyone. That will be a disaster.
Since we live in a very religious and conservative community.
I work for a church, and it almost certainly means
I'll lose my job and we will lose most of
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our friends as well. I don't want it to happen.
We really have no idea how to avoid the situation.
We have some relevant comments, but I mean, if your
mother in law is super religious, I don't know how
you could lie to her, but she might if if
she found out once, feel like she might find out again.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
I feel like you should just bother. You should be like, ah,
now I have three friends with benefits. Yeah, I have
seven friends with benefits. I don't know, And they have
seven friends with benefits, and we're gonna have a million
babies together, and we've all got gonna be here on things.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
They're all million babies with benefits.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah, they've all got dental and healthcare, so many benefits.
I think that you should consider moving if it does
kind of blow up in that way, because it seems
like it's just not the most welcoming or I don't know,
accepting place.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
That you're living in very hostile.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, Like if something about your relationship that's you know,
they're a private would make people stop being friends with
you and people fired you from a job, maybe, I
don't know, it would suck obviously, like your mother in
law has no right to say any of that, but
I think, like, maybe prepare for the worst case scenario.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Yeah, I can see her try and talk her down
like her, Ohpie's mom just spreading it, spreading around.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Yeah, Oh have you heard?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Oh you see her with any any other male? Yeah,
even though female, just anyone out there. She's just probably
thinking that could be a friend with benefit.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Timit says not to bunch you when you're down, But
how would she able to dig deep everything short of
a private detective?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
And you were being way way bad at hiding this.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
For God's sakes, people managed to hide these things from
their own partners. The only reason I'm saying this is,
of course you don't stop, you just cover your tracks better.
I'm assuming you don't have to confess in public. Then
the only thing that matters is just hiding it better.
And could you for your own sanity, then maybe work
on getting less conservative of friends and maybe finding another job.
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That's kind of my thought process. It's like, why do
we want to be friends with people that we have
to hide. I mean, again, these aren't details that your
friends need to know because it is quite personal. But
also I wouldn't want to be with friends with people
that were that judgmental and never see your husband's family again.
How is he taking the fact that your mother is
threatening to sabotage your entire life? By the way, he
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should be furious because after this, you're never gonna be accepted.
Even if she doesn't out you in public, she'll know,
she'll gossip, she'll dig yep. So either you get your
husband to keep his side of the family in line
or make sure you don't need that side of the family.
And Ope responds, she followed me after work for days.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Like I said, I called, it's your mother in law
is crazy.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Yeah, her mother in law, Opie's mother in law is
gonna just anytime she sees Opie with anybody, she's just
gonna follow you. Take a take a picture, write it down,
description everything, and be like oh that's them, or like
this is that's personalnumber one.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
That's person number two.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
That's crazy what she followed me after work for days,
basically played private detective herself because she suspected that I
was cheating. I wasn't very careful at hiding it since
I never thought anyone would care to even look into me.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
I was wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
He is furious at his mother, but we both understand
that anger will not solve anything, so we're trying to
be pragmatic. We want to avoid as much harm as possible,
and in the long term, I should find a new job,
and maybe we should expand our social circles to include
more open minded people.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I think so well. We got some more comments La
Mama Loka.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Is she going to expose the identity of your friends
with benefits too? How might this affect him? Oh, he says.
We talked to him as well. This won't affect him much.
He's not in our normal social circle and his place
of work will not care at all. Shadow ban Hand says,
what a vile woman. If your husband can't convince his
own mother to not blow up your life, I don't
think there's anything you can do. Your mother in law
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will never let this go and use this information to
blackmail you for decades. Do not think for a second
that if you comply with her demands that there won't
be more demands after that, over and over again, This
information will get out eventually, and OP says, Yeah, that's
why we can't just give into her demands. There will
be more, especially when we have kids. We're trying to
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find a solution that doesn't mean total disaster, and.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
We can't seem to find it.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Mantra one eighty seven says, could your husband threaten her
right back by withholding all future access to her grandkids
if she doesn't keep this secret? But honestly, I fear
you're ft either way. Your husband needs to deal with this,
but you've been playing with fire doing what you're doing.
In this kind of community, secrets like these always come out,
and with judgmental people that surround you, it won't end well. Unfortunately.
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I suggest you prepare for the worst. Oh Pi says
we threatened her back with that. She isn't afraid because
in her mind they won't even be her grandkids. Even
if we give her a paternity test, she won't believe
the test given her paranoia. Pseudonymous, My husband was the
type that believed and knows spicy before marriage. When we
started dating, everything was perfect except this. No, he was
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in his late twenties when this friends with benefits arrangement started.
He didn't slowly realize he was not interested in spicy
sleep after you married him. This is not a revelation
that first occurs to you in your mid twenties.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Well, as he already said, he waited until marriage. I
sy that. Yeah, I hate.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
One of the commentary is, yeah, no, he can't know
about his ace identity.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I know better than him.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
He slowly revealed to you that he wasn't interested in
spicy sleep after he had gotten you to marry him.
I hate that comment.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
And it comes Opie's counter argument, which I'm so ready for.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Oh Pi says, he always believed that things will change
after marriage, as he was led to believe that. After marriage,
he realized that things weren't going to change. He didn't
deceive me in any way. I don't doubt sincerity for
one second. I was right there with him with his
struggles to deal with this. And there is an update.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I did not like that comment. It's stupid.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
I love when the commentars are like, I know better
than you. Because I'm in his shoes. That's me.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I literally grew up in the Catholic Church, and I
will say it can go either way. I grew up
thinking that I was ACE or on that spectrum. And
then you know, you like start having experiences, but like you,
you find yourself and you realize, oh, I'm no longer
in this incredibly religious you know, grasp community and just space,
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and you realize certain things about yourself. But I've also
had the total opposite end of that for friends who
have you know, been either had experiences or had not
had experiences and thought that they would eventually like it
and then realize, oh, that's not for me at all.
There is no time limit. You can realize that much later,
you can realize it much earlier. You can change your
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mind about it. It is not a rigid thing. And
I hate the idea that this commenture thinks that they
know better than your first.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Point that you just made is exactly what I'm trying
to say.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
No, and I agree, it's like as soon as he
gets at because he's never been he's never been out
of this environment, he's never been away from these people,
he's never been away from these ideas.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
And it feels like inevitably they will move.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Away from this place and these people because it's antithetical
to the way they're living life right now. Yeah, and
then I feel like once he gets that distance, there
might be a high probability that he's like, wait, wait
a minute, I don't know if anything in my life
makes sense anymore.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
No. And I agree that when you are in a
very religious, you know, place that you and then get
out of it, that your you know, your identity can
completely change. I guess my point is just that we
haven't seen any evidence that he's not.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Happy with that.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
And also I think it's pretty like I think that
the idea that I think that there are people who
are ACE because that's just kind of how it played
out and that's just who they are and there was
no negative impact that made them that way, and that
would you know. But I also think I think that
it's a really real thing to have a kind of
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trauma from growing up in a hot like a purity
culture that tells you that this is terrible and if
you do this, you're going to hell. And I think
a lot of people have come out who are ACE.
Because they've had that experience. So yeah, like, I'm not
knocking your point. I'm just saying like, here it does
seem like I'm happy with this identity.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
More referencing to the people, to the beautiful people.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, Kim Robert says, I need more info. If you're ACE,
does that mean you don't like spicy sleep? Or can
you be attracted romantically and just not physically? So ACE
is a spectrum, so.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Is your place with the just don't It means that
you usually.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
You would say a romantic if you weren't into you know,
people are like if you weren't into like romantic extraction,
but a sexuality, it means usually that there's some kind
of aversion to spicy sleep. So for example, there are
some people that if you're demi sexual to some people
that are only interested in spicy sleep if they have
a romantic attraction. There are some people that are only
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into it sometimes but they would prefer not like they
don't need it. There's some people that are completely spicy
sleep averse and don't.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Ever want to do it. So it really ranges.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
And then there's the spade and the club and the
heart and the diamond, and there you go, and you've
got two jokers as well.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
But yeah, can like everything else. Is it a spectrum,
Yes exactly, and it's very different for everyone. Everyone experiences
a sexuality differently, Yes they do.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
But we've got an update.
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happily ever after. Sixteen days later, so she told everyone unsurprising,
but that sucks. That made us explain to people what's
going on, and surprisingly people weren't all that bad.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Okay jokes on her.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
We lost about half of our friends, but others basically
said none of their business and they don't care. We
underestimated some of our friends. We decided to cut off
mother in law and everyone who sided with her.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
But there is a little bit left to the story.
Any final thoughts.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I hope it all turns out well.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I feel like now that she can't hold anything over
you and you know who your true friends are, I
think your life is just going.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
To be better.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
I feel like that yes, it's the cats out of
the bag, and everyone's like, especially your friends, are like, yeah,
we don't care, You're happy, you guys seem good cool,
keep doing your thing. Yeah, and that you can be
like more comfortable with those people, which is great.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
My sister in law was the last person who I
thought would come on our side, but she did. She
called and defended us and told us that she'll join
us in cutting off her mother since this could have
easily been her instead of her brother. But I lost
my job. Church basically had to let me go since
people wanted me gone, So that also happened. I'm now
looking for a new job. Mother in law also went
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to my friends with benefits to confront him. He shut
the door on her face and told her to f off.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Actually pretty funny.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Yeah, just just someone who really thinks they have like
a thirty on everything.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Do you think the mom the mother in law, was like,
do you want to be friends with benefits?
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
No, she was probably there with like one of those
like holy water scepters.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah, she just goes repent. She demon God spitting on me.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
He should just gone.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Oh deleted says she actually went to your friends with
benefits house. Wow, I actually think this went sort of well.
Losing your job sucks, but the fact that you did
lose your job because of your private personal life means
this wasn't the job for you. Now you know who
your friends are and that you still have friends, You
have a better relationship with sister in law, and you
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can cut mother in law out of your life with
no more debate or guilt. So congrats, oh Pisa. She
blames him for seducing me. She thinks I met a
hot guy, lost my mind over, and then gilted my
husband into accepting this arrangement. So she thinks your friends
with benefit is the serpent from the Bible. Balila Lina says,
out of curiosity, care to explain how you found your
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friends with benefits?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Oh p says online dating. I made a profile and
wrote what I'm after.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Out of hundreds of people who contacted me, I went
on dates with about fifteen people until I found someone
I liked and could connect with. It was a great
arrangement for both of us, since he wanted a lover
for spicy sleep and physical intimacy, but not a relationship.
I then invited him to meet my husband and after
He told me that he likes him and gave me
the go ahead. I went on further dates with friends
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with benefits, and we eventually started having spicy sleep. Once
we both realized this could work long term, we sat down,
worked out boundaries, and it's working very well for us.
Philide It says, Ope, I remember your original post. May
I ask what you said that tipped her off in
the first place. I was really curious about that.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Oh, p says.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
It was about polygamy. She was saying how wrong it is,
and I just added a comment that is, as it's
consenting adults, it shouldn't matter. We had a few back
and forth and I dropped it, but my answers made
her suspicious. Make me a star says, are you still
going to attend the church? I mean, a church is
a community which is hard to leave. But they just
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took your job away. Oh, he says, of course not.
I'm not even religious. Church was just a well paying
job for me. That's a crazy reveal.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah, that's that's a not even religious after I old wow,
final sentence.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Yeah, good luck go pee. Well, seems like you're on
the right track.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yeah, so go after it. Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
But we've got another's story.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
My mother in law keeps disfavoring my daughter favor. This
happened last Christmas and it still eats.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
At me in those rare moments when all is calm
in my household.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
I want to preface the story with the fact that
I understand people have different ideas of what makes gifting fair.
While her method is not my of tea, It's not
up to me to dictate how other people give. It's
not the how, but the when and the impact it
had that I'm struggling to decide what to do about.
By the way, this comes from user adulting is trifficult.
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I'm Dakota, I'm.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Sophia, I'm Keon, and we're here.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
To give you our best advice.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
But we haven't experienced most of these situations ourselves, so
if you have, let us know in the comments and
op says. I also want to say that I don't
expect people to love step family the same as biofamily.
I'm a fairly logical person I understand that it's awesome
when they do love family the same, regardless of step
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or biostatus, but it's also natural to favor biofamily. I
do expect some amount of decorum and for the favoritism
not to be palpable to the children.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Maybe I expect too much from some people. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I just think that when you get with a person
and you have kids already, I don't really know if
I would want to get with a person who didn't
have like a very strong connection.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
With my kids, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
I mean like, I think it's the most reasonable and
simple thought of all time to be like, yeah, you
shouldn't make my kids feel like they're less than other people.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, they should just be simple kids.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Some relevant context, my hubby and I have been together
for five years. I have an eight year old from
my previous marriage, and we have a two year old together.
Hubby is a good step parent and loves my kid
like she was his own. My mother in law and
I get along great for the most part. She is
loud and opinionated, which can get irritating at times, but
she's a nice person in general, and also claims to
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love my oldest as her own grandchild. Not sure if
it's relevant context, so I'm sharing in case people think
it is. I have had to correct her when she's
overstepped my parenting boundary. She does the same with sister
in law and brother in law and their kids who
are two under six years old, but they don't say anything.
They just complained to Hubby about it later. She's backed
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off since I called her out on it, but continues
to interfere with sister and brother in law's parenting because
they don't God bliss less, sneezer, You'll rename you sneezy. Oh,
I thought you were producing.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
I have a headache.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Onto the events leading up to Christmas, all the kids
created their wish lists with the help of us parents.
Mother in law reached out to me to ask if
a gift she picked out that wasn't on the list
would be liked by my eight year old.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I said that she would love it and it was
a great idea.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
She said, since it was a large item, it would
set the price for that year's gift tall for all
the grandkids. Mother in law's of the opinion that spending
the same amount of money on each kid keeps it fair,
even though the younger children get a higher quantity, as generally,
wish lists get more expensive as the kids get older.
Not my idea of what makes it fair, but again
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not my place to tell other people how to gift.
This would be the first time her method would result
in some kids only getting one gift. Since I've been
going to family Christmas, I think there there is a
certain age when that kind of makes sense. Maybe eight's
a little early, yeah, because then it does like you know,
at that age it's like, wait, but look, they have
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more and you can't really be like, yeah, but yours
cost the same amount as all of them. But they're like,
but they got to open seven things and I only
got to open two or one thing.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Yeah, it wasn't as fun.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
I remember as a kid being like, wait, I want
to open just I want to open like, I just
want to open things.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah, let me open things. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
So but if that's how you yeah, I don't know.
I guess it's true that even if that is how
you felt, it's.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Like not your place.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
But at the same time, she did ask you yes,
so it was the floor was open for you to
be like she would like it. But I don't know
if she would like only opening one gift, yeah, you know,
so maybe spread it out even though she would like that,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Fast forward to Christmas Day family gathering.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
On the way over, I explained to my daughter the
method mother in law use to buy gifts so she
wouldn't be blindsided when she only got one and the
younger kids got a few more than her.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
I didn't spoil the surprise of the gift.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
I was trying to get ahead of the disappointment I
knew would come from only getting one. I don't know
if that was the right move. I think that might
have been a wait and see how she handles it,
and if she doesn't handle it well, then you try
to like damage control, teach the lesson of like, hey,
sometimes less is more. Sometimes hey, the quality of this
thing is actually, you know, when you look at what
they got, I know they will and we'll I'll wrap whatever.
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You'd be like, if you're sad you didn't get to
open more stuff, I'll wrap up some trinkets for you
or something, or you could do that. But I don't
think prefacing was maybe the right move.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
I think it could be potentially good if she knows
that her daughter would throw a fit about her, hopefully not.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Throw a fit like Jeff Goldbloom.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Mm hmm, he's always throwing fits. Substantish.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
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Speaker 4 (41:12):
She was a little bummed, but took it pretty well
overall and said she understood gift opening time arrives, kids
start opening gifts.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Oldest opened her one gift. Sister in law and brother
in law's oldest also gets the same big gift Q.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Both toddlers oh getting a plethora of gifts a ten
to one ratio compared to the older kids. Mother in
law had gotten cheap knockoffs of toys so she could
get more for the set price.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
That year.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Daughter enjoyed helping her sibling open their gifts since they
hadn't figured out how to remove wrapping paper yet, and
was showing them how to use each one. Crisis successfully
averted so far. Nephew did not take it so well
that he only got one while his sibling got more
and started to loudly whine and fuss about it.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Yeah, yea, so it seems like you prepped your daughter
better than he was prepped.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Oh he's also younger.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
No, he's a lizard, that's what he is. He's a
freaking baby.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Yeah, what he is. That's just true. That is true.
This is a baby.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
It's a baby.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
I don't fault him for this. I guarantee no one
explained it to him beforehand. And I get that kids
see fairness in quantity, since quality and monetary value are
less tangible. Hence why I told my kid beforehand. The
next part is where I have a problem. Mother in
law pulls out more gifts for my nephew.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
What okay? So not not the not the agreed arrangement.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
No, my daughter saw it and got visibly upset, though
no one else seemed to pick up on it. She
asked me why he got more if he got the
same big gift as her, and she reiterated.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Mother in law's rule. He started to gently cry, and
I had no words. It hurt my heart.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
I couldn't explain it because, as my daughter pointed out,
mother in law broke her own rule. When people do
crappy things, my auto response is to tell her that
some people just suck sometimes and I didn't want to
say that about my mother in law, even if it
was true. In that moment, I just hugged her and
tried to redirect to something else. Eventually, the kids all
ran off to play with other things. She had asked
within earshot of mother in law. Mother in law said
(43:15):
nothing and acted as if she hadn't heard or seen
my daughter crying. Maybe she didn't, I don't know. She
broke her own rule, the one she expressed over and
over again and heavily emphasized with so much pride that
it was how she was keeping things fair, and she
did so to the detriment of my daughter's feelings.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I think that Opie's plan to like pretty proud her
daughter would have been perfectly fine if mother in law
hadn't lied. So it really sucks that she lied, and
it seems like what we're gonna learn is that she
did it because Opie's step or this is step granddaughter. Yeah,
which really sucks. And I think that Opia has the
right idea of just saying, sometimes people do mean stuff
(43:57):
and we can't really control them, and we just have
to kind of move forward and maybe let's go get
ice cream.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
It's like you watch an etic code does not match
the gift registry.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yeah, you cannot foresee a second gift.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Your thumbprint didn't work. Sorry, no gift for you.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah. Just lame. Yeah, just a lame thing to do
to a child.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Eight year old?
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Children an eight year old. I haven't flipped around and
be like, dang mother in law, you're really that broke.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Yeah, I can't afford it.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Yeah, mother in law, a little giftee. Dang mother in law,
I didn't know you were broke like that.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
You need you want to you want a twenty dollars
bill from me here, Hey, merry Christmas, use an Abraham Lincoln,
go buy yourself some nice Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
You should just not get her a gift.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
And when she's like, why didn't you get me a gift,
you're like, oh, well we're not, we're not related.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah. I do hope that she is immediately.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
Ope, I do hope you did take her aside, because
you've already called her out and you and you take
her side and you go, yeah, I see exactly what
you're doing here.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
It's not cool, And honestly, I think you should feel
a little disgusted with yourself. This is a child.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
I agree I think we need it.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Do not want all of the children to feel welcome
in the family.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Definitely get your partner involved, let him know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Yeah, but we do have a little more story. See's up.
Stop it all off.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
As I was looking at the gifts the two toddlers
were getting, I noticed half of them weren't from their
own wish lists, but from my daughter's list. So not
only did she make my daughter feel like she was
worth less than her cousin's on Christmas Day, my daughter
had to watch her cousin and sibling get some of
the things she had wanted.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Is it just my inner mama bear.
Speaker 4 (45:27):
Overreacting or should I do slash say something As we're
approaching the prep season for next Christmas?
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Move in the shadows? How do I get past this?
Speaker 4 (45:36):
My daughter hasn't brought it up since, but I'm still
irked by it, and that is the end of that story.
I do think your daughter is probably pretty resilient and
gonna be fine. That's why I that's my whole point
of like maybe waiting, just like to wait and see
how she reacts and then judge, Like, all right, what
level of like like nurturing or shielding is really necessary here.
(45:56):
It seems like she processed that pretty well and almost
like opening those gifts even though they were things that
she might have wanted.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
It sounds like your daughter would be.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
The kind of person who'd be like, Oh, this is
such a good this is so cool, this is something
I wanted. You're gonna really like this because I would
have really liked this, So you're gonna like it, and
that means just means you're raising a good kid.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
I think that it seems like your daughter is doing gray.
I think that she's gonna be fine from this experience. However,
it is definitely something you need to address with your
partner and mother in law because it's only gonna get
worse and more obvious as she grows older.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
It's something that's gonna get worse over time. Yeah, so
it's something that needs to be called out.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Nah pretty fast.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
Yeah, and yeah, I think you're right that I would
call them out as a team. Yeah, one hundred and
maybe even get like brother in law sister in law involved. Yeah,
you know whoever the relevant parties are just sit down
and be like, hey, we need to talk about how
you behave with the kids, But that is the end
of that story and the end of
Speaker 2 (46:55):
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