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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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word from our sponsors. My mother in law walked in
on me and my husband after our wedding. Oh no,
I was she even there? I twenty five female, just
married my husband Mark, twenty five male, less than a
year ago. This story is going to begin with some background,
then to the engagement, then the wedding, than the main event.

(00:30):
My apologies for any typos. Buckle up. This is the
long one. By the way. This comes from Ranting Throwaway
and if you want to submit your own stories, go
to our slash Okay Storytime Separate it. So, my mother
in law, eleanor Ellie for short, has two sons, Mark
and his younger brother, Bryan. Bryan is twenty three. For context,
Ellie has always wanted a daughter, but unfortunately never had
the daughter she always dreamed of. When Mark and I

(00:51):
started dating almost ten years ago, she immediately accepted me
as her daughter. Okay wow, so they started eating like
a fifteen wow, because she said they're twenty five now,
oh wow, And I was grateful for that. I didn't
have a great relationship with my own mother, so having
that positive female role model to look up to at
that age was nice. Fast forward to last year, Mark
and I were talking about getting engaged. He had a

(01:11):
whole proposal planned out and then picked a perfect date
that meant something to both of us, but also wasn't
obvious so I would be surprised. Surprising me was incredibly
important to Mark. About two months before the proposal, Mark,
Ellie and I were sitting in my in law's house
talking about the engagement. I jokingly asked when it was
gonna be, then started listing every date from the current
day until I got to the date. I was saying

(01:34):
things like November second, what about November third? November fourth?
And I kept this bit going for a while. When
I finally got to the actual date, Mark kept his
perfect poker face, but Ellie jumped in her seat and
flashed a shocked look at Mark. Subtle Okay, yeah, but
you know, honestly, some people are just really bad at
keeping secrets. Yeah, and that bit feels like, you know

(01:58):
you're asking to be you know if Yeah, I feel
a dangerous, dangerous game you're playing. Yeah, like some people
aren't good at poker faces right, because that doesn't feel
it at all intentional. It's just like, yeah, yeah. I
pretended not to notice and just continued listening dates. The
damage was done. I now knew the date he had picked.

(02:18):
If Mark knew that I had figured it out, he
would have been crushed. I really want to emphasize that
I had no idea that was the date. I had
started guessing dates months before and kept the bit going
for five minutes or more before I got to the date.
You kept the big going.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
For five minutes or more, five minutes.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
I need people to understand, like you, I feel like
off the you know, just like off the dumb You're
like five minutes, not a long five minutes of listing dates.
That's so long. It's not like I guessed it on
the first try. Honestly, I hadn't even really guessed it
at all. Her own reaction ruined the surprise. I tried
to put the date out of my head, and on
the day of the proposal, I decided to try my

(02:56):
hardest not to think about Ellie's reaction and to pretend
like Mark and I were just going on a regular date.
I met Mark at his parents' house and Ellie immediately
hugged me and said, you're finally gonna be my daughter.
If I didn't know before, I definitely knew then, but
I still continued playing dumb. Okay, now that's on her.
They's on her. Now it's on her. Yeah, poor poor Mark. Yeah,

(03:19):
Mark's trying so hard. I excuse myself to use the restroom,
and when I came out, I overheard Ellie talking to
Mark loudly pawing at his pocket, saying, let me see
the ring one more time before she comes out. I
just sighed to myself and went back to the bathroom,
this time loudly opening the doors so they would know
I was coming and stop talking about the ring. Markt
worked so hard to make this a surprise for me,

(03:39):
and I couldn't ruin it for him, so when he
popped the question, I just had to act surprise to
spare his feelings. To this day, I don't have the
heart to tell him that I had known for months
and that Ellie had ruined the surprise. Obviously, I said yes,
and the wedding planning began. Mark and I had talked
for years about having a non traditional wedding with just
my friend who is ordained signing the papers for us.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
That sounds sweet.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, I'm going to have my dad get ordained. I've
talked about this. Oh that's fun. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
My mom said that when she retires, and she's retired now,
that she uh wanted to get ordained and then.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Do like guidings. I love that, right. Is she on track? No?

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Not, She hasn't even begun. But she's busy. She's a
busy retired gal.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
She's so. I'm very much an introvert, so having a
day where I was the center of attention wasn't a
priority for me. I would have been perfectly fine with
just marking me signing some paperwork in our pajamas, but unfortunately,
where we live, witnesses are legally required to get married.
We discussed just going to the courthouse, but Ellie breaked out.
She insisted we needed a real wedding before I could

(04:42):
even think about it or agree to anything. She got
her church to send over availability and messaged a distant
relative who was a retired priest to see if he
would perform the ceremony for free. I had never met
this person before, and I felt very uncomfortable having a
stranger officiate my wedding. Lid did I know, but since
he had agreed to do it for free, it was
hard to say.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Now.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Her church also agreed to let us use the space
for a major discount, so again it was hard to
turn down a money saving opportunity. I told Mark that
if I was going to go through with this real wedding,
then the guest list needed to be under one hundred
or I simply couldn't do it. He agreed, and we
started making a list of who we wanted to invite.
Mark and I listed the most important people and came
up with about fifty guests. I thought this was perfect,

(05:23):
but Ellie lost it. She was horrified that we didn't
invite any of her aunt's uncles, cousins, or other distant relatives.
She insisted that it was her son's wedding and that
she should have a say on her son's day.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Girl, I think you literally just contradicted yourself right there.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
That's crazy your son's day. Yeah, Therefore, you do not
need to have a sick It's not really your day exactly.
Mark and I explained that I had never met any
of these people, and many of them Mark had never
met either. We really didn't want people there we didn't know.
Ellie through a tantrum, insisting that it was her family
and that we shouldn't exclude them. Oh my gosh. Her

(05:59):
tantrum was so unbearable that we just agreed to add
them to the list to shut her up. Mark told
me not to worry, though, because he had a plan.
We ended up picking a date that lined up with
when all of her distant relatives go on vacation to Florida,
so none of them could make it to the wedding.
Since we invited them, many felt obligated to send us
a card with the check slipped in, so in the
end it actually worked out nice, but it really said

(06:20):
that Ellie felt the need to control our guest list.
We really didn't have to plan a lot. We sent
out one hundred invites and only around fifty people RSVP'd. Yes,
it was a low effort wedding. I'm not a very
girly girl, so I decided to order a dress online.
This dress was actually a steel No one even guessed
it was only fifty dollars. They thought I had spent
at least a grand at a bridle shop.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, that's great. I was very proud of my online find.
But Ellie was livid. She told me I betrayed her
and robbed her of her experience of taking her baby
girl wedding dress shopping. I told her I didn't take
anyone shopping, so she really didn't miss anything, and that
it wasn't personal jo I just didn't enjoy shopping or
dresses and wanted something quick and easy. She didn't not
like that response. She demanded I send her pictures of

(07:03):
me in the dress, and I refused. I was afraid
she would show mark or worse posted online, so I
told her I wouldn't be sending pictures to anyone, or
even taking pictures of myself in it at all. She
would just have to wait for the day now for
the wedding. I have no build up for this one,
so I'm just gonna come out and say it. Ellie
wore white to my wedding. No, Ellie, Ellie, Ellie, where

(07:27):
did this come from? Elle?

Speaker 3 (07:28):
L e?

Speaker 2 (07:28):
L E? Come on girl? I mean, like did she go?
She was like, well, if I can't have the wedding
dress shopping experience, and I'm gonna go have it myself. Yeah.
Why is this?

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Literally, in every single story, everybody's wearing white.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Law, Yeah, they're always just showing up in white. Why
are you? Why? Why? What is the reason? I mean, like,
it's like rule number one, wedding rule number one. Yeah,
the bride's gonna be the only one. I just shocking, shocking.
Oh man, I showed up but the church early to
get ready, and she was already there, already dressed, and

(08:03):
had no plans to change. Oh my gosh, my awesome.
Made of honor jokingly said she would spill some wine
on it for me, but we decided to ignore her
and move on. When it came time for pictures, Ellie
made herself the main character. We hired a family friend
of mine who wants to be a photographer to take
our pictures. She offered to do it for free, but
we believe that since she was providing a service, she
should be paid, and she was. Anytime the photographer posed us,

(08:27):
Ellie would try to jump in front of her with
her phone or call attention to her, so we would
look at her phone instead of the photographer's camera, so
many nice group pictures were ruined because no one knew
which camera to look at. If we refused to look
at her phone, Ellie threw a tantrum and sometimes would
physically push us back into place so she could get
her shots too. She also stepped on my dress quite

(08:47):
a few times in the process. When confronted about it,
she stated that it wasn't her fault. I picked something
with such a long train. Just stand farther away from me, literally,
you know what. First of all, I'd be like, okay,
stand over there. Sorry, guys, can't get close to me. Yeah.
And two maybe I don't know, just tell everyone be like, okay, sorry,
don't look at mom's phone. Looks like yeah, Like just

(09:09):
I don't know, like put her in her place, man, Yeah,
I would.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
I would make a big announcement and just be like,
all right, everyone, we are paying for this photographer.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Let's look at that camera. Yeah, don't get his mom.
If you want to take the pictures after this, fine,
but like, do not look at mother.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Law.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
You gotta you gotta get out of the way, girl. Yeah.
At the actual ceremony, Ellie was mostly behaved. She sat
in the front row with her phone out the entire
time sobbing. But she sobbed silently and stayed in her seats,
so I can't complain. Before the reception could even begin,
Ellie posted pictures at the wedding and announced it before
I even got the chance to. This was a small wedding,
so not a lot of people knew about it. I

(09:45):
really wanted the chance to announce it, but she stole
that opportunity for me. Not only that, but she posted
the worst photos because no one was looking at her
phone and no one was properly posed for shots. During
the reception, we had the cake set up in the corner.
It was so tucked away that there was really only
space for me, my husband, and a photographer while we
cut the cake. We stuck back with the photographer to
cut the cake and get pictures, and Ellie screamed, wait,

(10:07):
I'm not ready, well, running across the reception hall trying
to load up her camera. We ignored her and she
missed the picture she wanted. Good. She then demanded the
photographer move out of the way so we could re
enact the cake cutting for her shot. Girl, you're the
pictures will be sent out?

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, I don't know, like You're not gonna be better
than the photographer.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
You're probably gonna be much much worse. Yes, so silly.
As soon as she got our picture, she took her
seat at the sweetheart stable, not where she's actually supposed
to sit, and demanded to be served. My husband and
I decided to just serve the cake ourselves and use
that as our time to walk around and mingle with everyone.
Ellie was pissed that she did not get to sit
and eat cake with her baby, but we didn't care.

(10:47):
After the reception, we had a barbecue back at my
in law's house. We did this to accommodate the fact
that my family does not drink, while his family drinks.
Enough for both families. My family got an alcohol free reception,
then his family got the alcohol filled reception. N Ellie
got absolutely crap faced. She drank to the point of
throwing up yikes, wow, and was an absolute rollercoaster of emotions,

(11:08):
cornering guests to flirt, cry, joke, and god only knows
what else. I had never seen her that wasted before.
She was absolutely horrid. Oh my gosh, that's crazy. I
was like, I don't know, Like I know a lot
of people get like wasted at weddings, but after the
mother of the groom. Yeah, you know, it's a little
bit of decorum that we can uphold. Absolutely, and for

(11:29):
the whole barbecue, she stayed in her white dress even
after I had changed out of mine. My husband and
I planned on spending the night at his parents' house
in his childhood room. It's a terrible, terrible idea. I
oh no, because it was closer to the airport and
we had to catch an early morning flight for our honeymoon. No, okay, cec,
we've circled back around tooth back on you again. Yeah,

(11:51):
the night of your honeymoon, I don't know, get an airbnb,
get a hotel room. Yeah, if you needed to be
close to the airport, find something close to the airport.
Absolutely caught those those exist. Yeah, shell u a little bit.
Seems like you saved a lot on the wedding. Yeah,
if you can shell out, just you know, right, probably
probably get a place for like, I don't know what,
one hundred bucks something like, probably less than that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Childhood bedroom for the wedding nights not ideal, but also
a very early flight the morning after is also not ideal.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
But you know, you gotta do what you got to do.
Not a lot of ideal things going on here.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah. After the reception, I was absolutely drained, very done
with people, and very annoyed with Ellie's behavior all day.
I just wanted to shower and go to bed. I
am a very modest person, and I don't want to
be in my pajamas in front of other people. I
don't wear anything super schmixy. You're inappropriate to bed, but
definitely not something uncomfortable wearing around my in laws. Before showering,

(12:47):
I made sure my in laws were in bed when
I got out of the shower. My husband made sure
Ellie was still in bed. I came out of the
bathroom and we went to his room, where I began
changing out of my robe and into my pajamas. Wow,
we were changing, my mother in law burst through the door.
My chest was completely exposed, so I grabbed the robe
and wrapped it around myself. I won't go into details,

(13:08):
but I have a history, I say, which made this
experience feel even more violating to me. Oh no, to
my horror, my mother in law was not only in
the room, but in the room with her phone camera open. Girl,
girl trying to get us to begin opening presents because
she wanted pictures and didn't want my family friend hogging
all the pictures. Girl, what is her husband doing? Who's

(13:28):
hogging the pictures in this scenario? No one's hi, it's
literally it's you. It's you. It's the day of the wedding.
My goodness, the wedding just happened. You're gonna get pictures, girl.
If the husband doesn't like absolutely lose his mind right now, yeah,
and like say like get out, Yeah, what's going on?
What's going on? It feels like he's not. We haven't

(13:48):
heard a lot of defense coming from this husband. Yeah.
I was absolutely horrified and couldn't even speak. I curled
up in a ball, crying and just wanting to disappear.
My husband was also speechless. He was partially undressed as well.
My mother in law was too wasted to even notice.
I finally looked at my husband and just said help.
I could barely get the word out. He immediately grabbed
a towel and yelled at his mother to get out

(14:10):
of the room and not come back in. There we go.
He came over to me and held me until I
was able to calm down enough to speak. He promised
me that she was so wasted that anything she saw
she wouldn't remember, but Opie would remember. This is the problem.
But to this day I still can't shake that violated feeling.
She spent the next couple of hours scream crying that we.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Had treated her so horribly on her special day, go
of contact with this woman on her special door, special day.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Girl, Lah, Oh my goodness, Well he was right. She
was so wasted that she had absolutely no idea what
had happened. The next morning, while we were trying to
get out the door to catch her flight, she began
crying again about the way she was treated the night before.
She said she was horrified that I had blown her
off like that, not even looking at her or speaking
to her, and that she couldn't believe I made her
own son yell at her the way he had the

(14:56):
night before before. Walking at the door, I just looked
at her and said, we were changing, we were unclothed.
Sorry you didn't get a photography last night?

Speaker 1 (15:03):
And what out?

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah? Good damn man, absolutely inappropriate. I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
I could not put up with this lady. Yeah, I'm sorry,
I'd be like, I'm never talking to your mom again, dude. Yeah,
like come on, yeah, yeah, II she began screaming and
crying thing. I was just making that up to be dramatic. Sure,
I'm the dramatic one. But we ignored her and left

(15:26):
for our honeymoon. By the way, you shouldn't ignore the
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there is a little bit left do this story? Do
you have any final thoughts though? I just like, wow, Wow, It's.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Just like I've had a lot of moments in my
life and realizing where in hindsight, I like know what
I would want to say to stand up for myself,
but I really want to practice doing that in real time.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
And I like, yes, this the opportunity to really Yeah,
it's like it feels like, oh, he's been like building up,
I'm building up. And finally she's like, you know what,
take that what so I can't get from your new daughter? Yeah, sorry,
but there's a little bit left. A week in Paradise,
Ellie texting us every day demanding pictures. Sometimes we would reply,

(16:16):
sometimes not, usually not. We enjoyed our Ellie free week.
She was never the same after the engagement was on
the table. She became a mother in law from law
and that is the end of that story. But I
really really hope that you went low contact.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, my sister in law disinvited my wife from her baby.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Shower over a joke she made. How bad was the joke?

Speaker 3 (16:41):
She's just really not funny, She's just on fun February seventh,
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
This is a recent one.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
I'm male thirty, recently married the love of my life,
female twenty eight, and I'm super close with my brother,
Mail thirty five. We always imagined our family is being
close too, until one single lunch ruin everything. By the way,
this comes from a throwaway a gooner dude, and if
you want to submit your own stories, just go to
the ur slash.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Okay storytelling reread.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
So, my wife and I went out to eat with
my brother and my sister in law female thirty one,
who is pregnant and about to give birth to my
first nephew. Needless to say, we are all very excited
mid meal. My brother probably feeling sentimental, goes man, I
hope the baby turns out like Ope, he was such
a cute kid. Now, a bit about my sister in law.
She's usually nice and I like her, but she's definitely

(17:29):
type A and a bit high maintenance. So, without missing
a beat, she shuts my brother down. No, I'd much
rather he turns.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Out like you. Okay, that's not that's not like it's
not that terrible. Yeah, yeah, terrible.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
That's like a sweet little compliment. No, I wanted to
turn out like you depending on the tone. Yeah, No, no,
I to turn out like you.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Different A bit of an awkward comment, and my brother
probably thought so as well, so he goes no, seriously,
we'd be lucky if the kid was like Opie. He
was such a cute and nice kid. And then sister
in law doubles down and says, no, but you're so
much more handsome.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Well, now we're now we're dipping into rude.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Now it's just getting weird now, she's what I mean,
it's like why, like like you're trying to hide something.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, it feels like no, no, no, so much more handsome. No,
I don't want to I would never want a baby
like op, I've never dreamed of a world where I
was married to pie and my baby looked like.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Him exactly exactly, before turning to look directly at me
and adding no offense. Now, look, I wasn't deeply offended.
My brother is a very good looking guy, so I
get it. But who just says that out loud? My wife,
who had been quiet up to this point, clearly found
it rude. So she jokingly goes, well, as long as
the baby doesn't look like the sister in law, we

(18:44):
should be fine. That's that's a clap back.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Ever seen what? Okay? But then that it is rude?
It is, but she was rude first.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, it's kind of like that one saying one of
your kids are. It's like, I know you are, but
what I can't tell you because you might cry? Like
that one I ever heard that that person of.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
No, I've only I know, I know you are, but
what am I? I only can't tell you you might cry?

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Dang, I've never Yeah, I didn't come up with that
some first grader day. That first grader is a genius, genius,
I know, crazy man. So I chuckled, My brother laughed,
sister in law did not laugh. She immediately got pissed,
glared at my wife and went, what the heck does
that mean? That's extremely rude. We're not close enough for

(19:32):
jokes like that. My wife was taken aback, and so
was I. My brother tried to say something, but she
stormed out. My brother followed her, looking about as confused
as I felt.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Fast forward to.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Today, sister in law has officially disinvited my wife from
the baby shower celebration. My wife says that she doesn't
even want to go, which fair enough. My brother is
devastated and.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Really wants me to be there.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Now.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Here's the thing. My brother adores me.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
He's always been my biggest supporter, and he wants me
to be a big part of my nephew's life. He's
having his first time and this moment is really important
to him. I love my brother too and can't see
him sad like that. He says that both my wife
and sister in law need to apologize eventually, but we
shouldn't force it right now and give them some time
to cool off. He also thinks that sister in law
owes me an apology for what she said, but again,
pregnancy hormones or whatever, so he just.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Doesn't want to push it yet.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
My parents actually side with my wife and think that
sister in law was out of line first, but they
also believe that I shouldn't miss such a huge moment
in my brother's life and that we should cut sister
law some slack.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Because of her pregnancy.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
So here's my issue. I don't feel right going if
my wife isn't welcome. I want to support her, but
I also know that this moment means the world to
my brother. So if I go, my wife might feel abandoned.
If I don't, my brother will feel heartbroken. I feel
completely stuck, and there is a consensus from all the commenters.
People tell OPI to send a gift and to stay

(20:49):
at a home and we do have an update.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
But what do you think that Opie should do?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Ooh and support the wife or go and support the brother?

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Ooh, ooh? I think you got to talk to your
wife about that. That's a that's a good yeah. Yeah,
could always fall back on communication. Yeah, it's like what
if I you know, what does she want from you?
And just be like hey, like whatever you want me
to do here is fine. Yeah, Like I want to
be there to support my brother, but also you you know,
she's kind of excluding you, right, Uh yeah, talk to

(21:20):
the wife. Yeah, I definitely talk to the wife.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
I feel like either way both people might understand your position.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, I think so. I would probably support going to
the brother. Oh yeah, I would say so. Yeah. It's
it's complican. Okay, my adhd Hay medication is not kicked
in yet. I need keffy.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
But there is an update, so February thirteenth. Now I'm
twenty twenty five, six days later. Thanks everyone for the replies.
I think I read almost every single one. I really
appreciated the different perspectives. So now some clarifications. My wife
is not a mean First, she made a joke in
the moment, although I admit that it wasn't a great
joke given the sensitivity of the situation. But she's genuinely

(22:00):
one of the kindest, most caring people I know. That's
one of the reasons I love her so much. I
don't think my brother did anything wrong by bringing up
the topic. We were reminiscing about childhood, and he probably
got nostalgic about having his little brother following him everywhere.
My brother and I resemble each other quite a bit,
though he's definitely the better looking one. Funny how that works.
And just to be clear, that doesn't mean I'm insecure.

(22:21):
If anything, he's the outlier. He's one of those people who.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Naturally turns heads.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Even when we were younger, he'd get random girls hitting
on him wherever we went. It was such a running
joke in our family that even my parents would tease
him about it. The entire conversation lasted less than five
minutes and.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Escalated very quickly.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
I agree with the comments that all of us should
have handled the situation better, but easier to.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Say that in hindsight.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
In real time, things just got out of hand very quickly.
I'm sure that all of us regret what we said
in the moment, except for the brother. The brother, he
said nothing wrong. Yeah, he was just like, yeah, I
would love op to.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Be this kid that look like ope. Yeah, that was
such like a like a brother.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, just like he like grabs mother's shouldice as long
as he could look like my brother right here.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
My brother right.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
And then it's like oh, thanks man, and then the
after school special music plays, and then it's really sweets
and a wholesome moment. But then they had to row
it credits. But now for the actual update. I told
my wife that I wouldn't go unless she was also invited.
She immediately told me that she didn't want to be
the reason that I missed it, and that I should go.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
If I wanted to, there you go. Communication.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
She even said that she'd be willing to apologize if
my sister in law was open to it, but that
she wouldn't attend if even reinvited because she'd feel uncomfortable.
I told her I appreciated that, but for me, it
was both of us or none of us. Then I
called my brother, and this is where I have to
give him a lot of credit, because I know he
was upset. He had really wanted me there, and I
could hear the disappointment in his voice. But instead of pushing,

(23:51):
he just said, I get it, man, don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Just brothers. So sad brothers. You can't can't beat upon man.
I would go with the wife's thing. That seems like,
I mean, I don't know. I know, it's his choice.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yeah, he was very uncomfortable being there, being like, yeah,
I'm here alone, I'm here alone.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
He had invited my wife.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Someone didn't like someone couldn't wait what is it?

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Someone could dish it out, but they couldn't take it exactly.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Someone not gonna name any names, but anyway, but yeah, dang,
that's that's really hard man.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
That's tough. I know that wasn't easy for him today.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
He had to balance keeping things calm with his wife
while also wanting his brother by his side.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
But he didn't guilt.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Trippy didn't try to convince me otherwise. He just let
me make my own choice. He even said, don't worry.
We'll save you guys some food and I'll drop it
off later. I offered to help with set up if
he needed it, and told him to say that I
have the VID to avoid awkward questions.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
He just laughed and said, got it.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
You caught the world's shortest VID, just long enough for
the baby shower, but miraculously covered the next day. Now
here's her thing got a bit more complicated. My mom
was not happy with him for not sorting this out earlier.
She felt like he should have stepped in and made
peace before it got to the point where my wife
was uninvited. But my parents didn't say anything directly because
they didn't want to get involved.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
In the drama. I think that really weighed on him.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
He was already trying to navigate a tough situation, and
now he had her parents silently judging him too. It
put him in an impossible position, trying to be a
good husband, a good brother, and a good son all
at once.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
A couple of.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Days passed with no further drama. Then something unexpected happened.
My wife got a call from my sister in law.
At first, my wife panicked, thinking that she was about
to get yelled at it.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Instead, they actually had a really good conversation.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I overheard bits of it, including my wife saying, no,
you're gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
She's like, no, no, no to me, like you're ugly. I
was just trying to stand out like your gorgeous.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
I was just throwing it back at you, all right.
I thought you could take it, which made me laugh
a little. After the call, my wife told me that
sister in law actually apologized. First, she admitted that she'd
been feeling really self conscious about her looks during pregnancy
and that my wife's joke hit a sore spot. A
little later, my brother called me. He told me that
he had gently talked to sister in law and helped

(26:08):
her see that things had gotten out of hand. He
also told me that knowing my wife was willing to
apologize had made a huge difference, and then he admitted something.
He had wanted to fix things before the baby shower,
but he knew that his wife was already under a
lot of stress. He didn't want to add more pressure
on her while she was in the middle of planning.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
And honestly, I respect that, I respect all the people
in the story. I feel like she was just like
dealing with hormones and was like reacted like yeah, I mean,
I feel like I've heard so many stories people who
were pregnant and then like a little comment about their
appearance like sets them off, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (26:40):
And that totally makes sense. Totally makes sense. My sister
in law is one of those people who needs everything
to be perfect. Her look, my brother's look, the house,
the decorations, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
So I can.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Understand that the pressure she must have put on herself,
and my brother knew that pushing her while she was
stressed wouldn't have helped, so he waited and after the event,
when things calmed down, he quietly stepped in and fix things.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
So where do things stand now? Things seem good on
the surface.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
My wife and sister in law made peace, and my
brother and I are fine. My wife and I have
decided to just be extra sensitive around sister in law
given what she's going through. All in all, the situation
seems to have brought us somewhat closer together. The real
takeaway I have an amazing wife, but her humor could
use some work. Also, my brother ain't too bad side
note speaking of whom. My brother will probably never see

(27:25):
this because he only uses Reddit for sports and news,
or so he says. But in the off chance that
he does, well, guess I'm busted. But since I have
your attention, I'll admit something just this once. You are
the best bro I could have asked for. That time
you helped me for UNI. I don't think you know
how much it really meant to me. And when I
was at a really low point, you stood by me.

(27:46):
I don't think I've ever said it, but I've always
appreciated that.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
This is so sweet.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
I'm just I'm fully imagining after school special like they're
in high school and it's what I got.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Letterman's jackets. Yeah, yeah, Grainy filter on the camera. Oh yeah, yeah,
I'm thinking like full house. They're having like the oh,
what's the moral of the story, and they're like having
a sit down where they're like, why did you feel
the need to say that, sister in law? Yeah, And
it's just like, I've just been feeling so down recently

(28:20):
and I didn't know how to take it out, and
I ended up taking it out on you, and I'm like, sorry,
it's okay, every exactly.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Yeah, absolutely, of course I wouldn't ever admit this in person,
and I will forever deny I ever wrote this.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
By the way, what I.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Will never deny is the fact that you can find
full episodes with more stories just like this one on
the Okay story Time podcast. Just look it up on
whatever your favorite podcast app is, whether that's iHeart Radio,
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Speaker 2 (28:52):
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Speaker 3 (28:54):
It will be every day, every day, everywhere you look.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
What is it everywhre you look focused to weird times. There,
that's all.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
I got some funny who need yeah, breve, but there
is a tidy bit more.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Let's read it so edit.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Everyone keeps asking why my wife didn't apologize first I
thought I made it clear in the post, but maybe not.
My wife was going to apologize, but wanted to check
if sister in law was open to it. She had
just been uninvited, so we had no idea whether my
sister in law was even open to talking to her.
I had told my brother that my wife wanted to apologize,
and if he had given us the green light, my
wife would have absolutely called and said. My sister in

(29:38):
law decided to call once my brother told her that
my wife wanted to apologize. That was her being the
bigger person. Yay, that perfectly. This is this is a perfect, dude,
perfect story. They're still making that show. Just send this
to the writers. Yeah, did get happen?

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (29:53):
This is a plot right there. It's literally free We're solving.
We're solving world peace.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah. Absolutely, Hey, it's Sam.

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Speaker 2 (30:06):
My mother in law has made our lives miserable for years.
We finally cut her off, cut it out. I've been
trying to write the story for like a year. By
the way, this comes from either pick forty nine to
sixty one, and if you want to smit your own stories,
go to our slashokey story time. Separate it So. Timeline twelve,
twenty twenty one. My husband and I get engaged. Six

(30:27):
twenty twenty two. Mother in law is crying in our
kitchen over a few glasses of wine that she isn't
included in the planning of our wedding. We're saying, husband
and I planned our own with no help from anyone.
We're in our thirties, we know what we wanted. Eight
twenty twenty two. Mother in law wants to plan a huge,
extravagant wedding shower, but my family tradition is that my
aunt throws a small one for the women in our family.

(30:47):
Mother in law is mad. My cousin also throws me
a pizza and adult soda friends shower. Mother in law
is fuming. Mother in law throws her own shower for
her side of the family, but is mad she wasn't
invited to the other showers. Eight twenty twenty two. Mother
in law says she isn't attending our wedding if her
sister is invited. My husband's aunt, who we are close with,
and her son our cousin is standing up. We tell

(31:10):
her fine, then don't come. She digs in and then
aunt ends up passing away of an aneurysm. Like two
months before a wedding. She's off the hook. Oh my god,
that's a terrible way to be off the hook. That's crazy.
I can't imagine being like, oh, well, now I can
go to the wedding. Yes, my sister's gone. Yep, that's wild. Eleven,

(31:30):
twenty twenty two. Our wedding is around the corner. I
asked mother in law if she wanted to come over
with my bridesmaids to get her hair and makeup done.
Mother in law accepts and then gets mad that I
didn't give her the time slot she wanted. I gave
her the last one since she was driving from out
of state and we were taking pics before the wedding,
so I needed to get my girls out. She then
says she won't be getting air and makeup done with us,
then accuses me of not inviting her over before the

(31:52):
wedding to hang out. Then she decides to dress like
she's attending a funeral to our wedding. Dressed like a
million bucks to sister in law's wedding. Lol. Also tried
to wear white sister in law's wedding. If that paints
the picture any brighter, of course, yeah, excellly. You know,
you know I'd take funeral over wears white to the wedding. Yeah, honestly,
it's like like, you can wear I've wore, you can

(32:12):
wear black dresses to weddings. You can wear black. I
wore black dress to wedding. It could be fun if
she just went like full classic funeral. She's got like
like large hat and like bale, yeah, and just tissues
a lot of Yeah, she's just crying the whole entire time.
Twelve twenty twenty two to ten twenty twenty three. Fairly
quiet for us, but she has drama with other family.

(32:33):
Ten twenty twenty three, We announce our pregnancy to family.
Mother in law acts less than enthused, never really asks
about it, never asks how we're doing. A radio silence.
Twelve twenty twenty three. Mother in law attempts to lift
my shirt at Christmas and touch my belly because her
grandbaby's in there.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
What No, what I'd be like, No, don't touching the
belly is like enough, but lifting the shirt, lifting the
shirt to belly.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah, even worse. I was a very hands off person
and private about my body and pregnancy till the end
when I couldn't hide it. I also had an ant
natal depression in the first and early second trimester, so
I was struggling. Note mother in law is always invited
to my family's side for holidays, Thanksgiving, Christmas, et cetera.
To twenty twenty four, my mom's sister and cousins throw
my baby shower. My sister asks mother in law if

(33:22):
she's coming. She RSVPs yes, But then a week or
so later she RSVPs no because she had a combo
with my husband about how mad she is that nobody
asked her to plan a shower. What is with this
girl and planning showers. She's like, I have to plan
all of them. No one else can plan these showers. Never, never, never.
Mother in law does not work and lives in a
different state. That's why she needs to plan these showers.

(33:43):
She's like, I don't know anything else to do. I'm bored.
I'm bored. Let me hit your showers. I'll do any
type of shower, engagement, wedding, regular, just a regular shower.
I do excellent bubble bags. Mother in law planned our
wedding shower with their ex husband's my father in law's money.
Three twenty four, mother in law allegedly left a gift

(34:05):
at father in law's house for us. After she didn't
attend our shower. We attempted to call her to say
thank you. She didn't answer, just to find out later
she was at my sister in law's and purposely didn't answer,
then bragged his sister in law about it. Why are
you playing coy? They're trying to thank you for your gift,
and you're like, well, I didn't answer them. They want
me so bad. I wrote her thank you card for

(34:26):
the items and said our baby was going to be
the best dressed on the block, and how excited we
were to wear these clothes. Some included mommy and daddy stuff.
And then three twenty twenty four, mother in law sends
the thank you card back. The card is addressed to
my husband and myself using my maiden name. She crosses
off the word mom that we wrote, and then wrote

(34:46):
a nasty message on the inside cover of the card.
She must have regretted it later because she blacked everything
out in permanent marker, making it allegible. What me, being
the FBI agent that I am, rubbed the black outside
to reveal the message. She said something along the lines
of I did not send you those clothes. You must
be mistaken and signed her name. Three twenty twenty four,
our son is born and our entire family meets him

(35:09):
except her. She doesn't reach out. All she does is
respond to a text in the family group chat that
our son has arrived with beautiful baby. Six twenty twenty four.
Husband tells mother in law she will be able to
meet him after she clears the air with us meet
the baby, presumably. Seven twenty twenty four, we baptize our
son and she's mad she wasn't invited, literally sobbing and screaming.

(35:30):
According to the family, Husband and I decide that his
baptism is an inappropriate time for her to meet him
because she has been very public about how she treated us,
and her showing up would take away from his day.
I mean, yeah, she's not tried to be around him
at all before this. Yeah, yeah, I'm still stuck on
that card. That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
She wrote some sort of like petty message on the
card and then blacked it out, and then sends it anyway.
It's like, if you regretted what you wrote, you don't
have to send it back. They weren't expecting you to
return their thanks. They're thank card. It's like it's like
if you're texting someone and you make a typo and
then you send it anyway and then like like send

(36:08):
another thing at the time.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
It's like you can't just fix it while it was
still said, like while you're in a typo, you know what.
But I do do that sometimes. I mean sometimes like yeah,
I just like send it.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
But if you like really cared about, like I don't know,
making a good impression or something like that, it's just
like take a second.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
But yeah, this is honestly, this is much worse. This
is different than a text because it's like, yeah, this
is effort. You had to you had to get a
stamp for that. Yeah, you need to pay money for that.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Eight twenty twenty four, the day I go back to work,
I am a teacher. She effing shows up at her
home unannounced, where my husband and son are the audacity.
I am on fire, fuming about the situation that she
planned this. Husband and father in law didn't think it
was maliciously planned, but it totally was. Dear husband and
I decided to call her to attempt to clear the

(36:54):
air and make it very clear that she cannot just
show up. None of our family ever just drop in.
During this phone call, she goes all the way back
to the wedding showers, et cetera, and plays the blame game.
The last words I said to her were that her
actions are indirectly impacting her grandson. She responds with Opie,
You're an affing witch, and my husband hung up on her.

(37:15):
That was the last we spoke. Twelve, twenty twenty four.
We have husband's whole family over for Christmas Eve, including
my whole family. Mother in law wasn't invited. My parents
give gifts to all children who attend, so they got
one for her other granddaughter. On Christmas Day, mother in
law shows up at brother in law's house granddaughters to
drop off gifts. Brother in law invites mother in law in.
Mother in law informs brother in law she is not

(37:36):
staying and that Olpie's parents should be her new grandparents.
Tell granddaughter, I'm passed away. Scrawl it crazy crazy. Imagine
being so jealous of a family that you would intentionally
hurt your granddaughter. On Christmas to twenty twenty four, granddaughter's
sixth birthday, mother in law isn't invited due to her
Christmas behavior. Family tells us. Mother in law finds out

(37:58):
and invites herself. Husband decides we will not go to
the party because she will act like nothing happened and
attempt to interact with us and our son without apologizing.
We will never get an apology. I said, let's go
because we cannot let her dictate our life. We did
not go, and we feel as though we made the
best decision for our family to keep our son and
ourselves away from her, as much as we wanted to
be there for our niece. By the way, you can

(38:19):
be there for us by listening to full episodes of
stories just like this. Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts,
or iHeartRadio and search a booka storytime. Just do witch,
just do it. But there is a little bit left
of the story. Do you have me? Final thoughts? I
just with people like this, you just can't win. You
can't win.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
You just they just exist in their own little worlds that,
unfortunately you have to deal with every now and then.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Yeah, and that's just very frustrating. Indeed, it is absolutely
It's like she's just gonna make a problem over everything.
Oh yeah, so you just kind of have to distance
yourself from her. Yeah. Unfortunately, that's where we stand for now.
She is truly the gift that keeps on given. I
will update as needed. Am I crazy at this point?
I I don't want an apology. I literally never want

(39:02):
to see her again. I never want her around my
family or my son. She's not allowed to psychologically harm
my son because she's mad at me or my husband.
If it's up to me, it will never happen, And
comments common one has brother in law told her that
you and dear husband are attending, she may decide to skip,
as last time she told you to tell your grandchild
that she was passed away and called you a terrible name.
If he has and she's risen from the past away,

(39:25):
ask him to have her come slightly later than you
so you can visit family and bring a cupcake or
so wish her happy birthday, and leave to put your
baby to bed before the wicked one shows up. Obie says,
I have no idea. If they told her that we
were going to attend, she wasn't invited, and it was
last Saturday, but they weren't us that she invited herself.
She indeed rose from the past away. Hello, I wish

(39:45):
we went because I wanted to be clear that we
are united and she isn't dictating our life or relationship,
and that she isn't welcome in our son's life until
Slash if ever something changes. Slash a sincere apology. Another
reply says, you should have gone and let your mom
babysit your baby while you were there, if you were
comfortable with that. I mean, I think she wanted to
show up so she could see your baby. Imagine her

(40:05):
reaction when she realizes her whole plan was for nothing
and everything blew up in her face. Obie says, I know,
so I thought of this too. Unfortunately, my father in
law and other family members loved to guilt trip by
saying things like I would really love to see both
of my grandkids playing together. This drives me nuts. But
also they would understand if we didn't bring our son,
my mom would one hundred percent babysit for us and

(40:27):
has done this for past events, and that is the
end of that story. Wow, but yeah, I think you
just gotta go low contech with your mom. Yeah, you
just gotta get away from those people.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
You can't really, it's you can't put in the effort
with those people because it's just so exhausting. Yeah, getting
all of that craziness back. So just just get away.
At least you got another mom in the family. That's normal. Yeah,
s good mom, got a good mom. Yeah, but that
is the end of that story.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
My family hit a shocking secret about my wedding venue
and it broke us.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Was the secret that they suck?

Speaker 1 (41:04):
I want to apologize for how long this ended up getting.
It was cathartic for me to let it all out
and explain my side, but I got a little carried away.
I twenty six female, am getting married this year to
my fiance, twenty seven male, who I've been with for
eight years. By the way, this comes from user Troubled
Bride throwaway and if you want to submit your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay storytime sub run it.

(41:25):
So we have been engaged for a few years now.
The initial venue we found was a state over and
was owned by a friend of my biofather. My relationships
with my biofather and his family have always been complicated,
but at the time we were on good terms and
the venue was close to where they lived, so I
was hoping that would bring us closer. The venue was
beautiful and we were able to book most of our

(41:46):
vendors through their preferred vendor network. We paid our five
hundred dollars deposit and we had it booked a year
and a half before our initial wedding date. As we
approached the seven month mark, my fiance and I decided
it would be best to put off the wedding for
one more year so we could finish up college and
have more time to save. He reached out to the
venue owner and he said he would pencil in a
date change for us no problem. During the call, I

(42:09):
mentioned I was going to reach out to the other
two preferred vendors we had booked, and the owner let
them know that they no longer work with those vendors
due to some disputes. He advised us to seek different vendors.
He also said he would still love to work with
us though, and is happy we are still interested in
having our wedding at their venue. That comment gave me
a bit of a weird vibe, but I thanked him
for the information and went to call my biofather's family

(42:31):
to give them the heads up. My biofather's reaction at
the time was a little weird. When we first booked
the venue, he was so excited, he acted very proud
that he was the one who made it happen by
referring us to said venue. But on this call, he
was like, Oh, in that case, have you considered doing
a different venue altogether, maybe something closer to where you
live currently. I thought the change of pace was odd

(42:52):
and uncharacteristic of him, but I didn't say anything at
the time. I told him no and that I still
liked the venue, and that was the end of that. Hmmm.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
So he's trying to get up you to change her mind,
but without actually telling her why.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Like, what happened here?

Speaker 2 (43:06):
What?

Speaker 1 (43:06):
What could have possibly happened?

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Someone? Someone? They're operating an illegal substance lab.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
I think there was some sort of incident that involved
a police prison. Maybe the corner mmmmmm, I don't know.
There could be something that really bad that happened. Now
they've got a spooky.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Ghost there, I think, so it's haunted.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Freshly haunted now that we moved the date. I remembered
a photographer that we really liked who was not available
for our original date, and I decided to reach out
to him to see if he was available for our
new date. The photographer ended up sending us a response
about a week later, essentially saying that he was available
and would love to work with us, but he was
not comfortable shooting at the venue, stating one of the
owners is someone who has been involved in some pretty

(43:50):
wildly inappropriate and illegal activities.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Okay, okay, so that's why the owner email them was like, Wow,
like I really appreciative, appreciative that you still want to
work with us, That's why you like.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
The photographer also let us know he wasn't judging us
for using that venue, but was just not willing to
associate his name with them. Needless to say, I was
confused as I responded, way, what legal activity? This is
the first we're hearing of this, and now I'm a
bit alarmed. What am I missing? In the response I got,
the vendor apologized for stirring things up and sent me

(44:27):
a link with two articles. The first one was from
twenty twenty and was about the owner my biofather's friend oooo.
It stated that he was caught and arrested in a
cp sting trying to meet up with a minor who
was a cop posing as one near a local school.
The second one was actually for a close relative of

(44:48):
my biofather's friend, who was the co owner of the venue.
An article from twenty twenty four stated he was arrested
for unlawful use of a weapon DUI, menacing, and criminal
trespass after wasted waving around a bang bang and cunning
people unprovoked at a convenience store. I was shocked and horrified.
I thanked the photographer and continued to do more research,

(45:10):
and I uncovered some more really concerning reviews regarding the
owner's conduct. I called my biofather to give him the
heads up about his friend, and that was when he
told me that they had known for over a week.
I felt hurt that they hadn't said anything and expressed that,
but also tried to empathize with them and said that
I wish I could have heard from them. I understand
that they didn't have much time to process the information either,

(45:32):
and that the decision of whether or not to tell
me would have put them in a hard spot. I said,
I just need a little bit of space to process
the information, but that I am not mad, just disappointed, kind.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Of shocking that they only just learned about this like
a week ago.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
I mean like, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
I mean, we don't know how long the biofather has
been friends with these people.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
But like, there's plenty of different ways that you could
not know this about somebody who you've recently become friends with,
recently mad or whatever.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Just like I'm like, I don't understand because I feel like,
let's say biofather is friends with these people. They say,
Bio's father's talking about how his daughter's getting married. The
friend is like, oh, we have a wedding venue. Actually
he doesn't. The bio father doesn't look up any of this. No,
I'm like, some people don't do any of that. Some
people don't look stuff up. I feel like this has

(46:22):
got to be the first thing that would come up.
You know, like if you even if you.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Were just looking up on a website, you could probably
like there's probably some kind of service you can pay
to like push things down the Google search list. Yeah,
you know, I have one idea though, weird. I said,
I just needed a little bit of space to process
the information. But then I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed.
When I got off the phone, I went to share
the news with my stepsister, who I considered a very
close friend and was even one of my bridesmaids. I

(46:46):
texted her saying, so might not be using the venue anymore.
She was probably with, yeah. Why I called her at
this point because it was easier and said, because it
sounds like the venue owner is a PDF file and
the other venue owner is a six shooter wheelden psycho.
And her response was, Oh, what drove you to that conclusion.

(47:07):
I don't know about you, but I expected a very
different reaction. Her lack of surprise clued me in immediately,
and I said, you already knew that, didn't you.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Turns out she had known for over a month and
didn't say anything. To be honest, I wasn't surprised my
biofather and stepmother didn't say anything, but I considered stepsister
a very close friend and it hurt my feelings a
lot that she didn't say anything. I also found out
that my biofather and stepmother knew at least a month.
They did aforehand as My stepsister brought both articles to

(47:38):
them when she found out, and they convinced her not
to say anything. Why are they doing this?

Speaker 2 (47:43):
I don't understand because they don't want you. They didn't
like your father tried to say, hey, I don't want
you to you know, like maybe you should find a
new venue. So I don't understand why they kept a secret.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
I mean, like, is it from a place of like,
we don't want to warn the wedding. She liked you
so much, we can separate the art from the artist.
That's so sorry. It's like, yeah, the people who run
this place are literals, but so weird. Your property is
so nice. I don't know, so weird, don't I wouldn't
want to support people who have this behavior. Old track record.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
No.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
I got off the phone because I was pretty upset
and I didn't want to take it out on her.
But I let her know that I didn't blame her
and I still loved her. I just needed a little
bit to collect my feelings. After that, she talked a
bit more over text. She let me know that she
really did want to tell me and that it was
weighing on her a lot, but she was afraid because
she didn't want to be cut off by the family,
and her mother kept bullying her and telling her I

(48:36):
would hate her for digging up derret on my venue.
She sent screenshots of the messages from them, which did
in fact confirm her story. I told her I acknowledged that,
and that I just wish my feelings would have been
considered first. I wish that I was given a choice
and that you could have trusted me enough to come
to me first. I ended the interaction by saying that
I just needed to step away for a bit because
my head was spinning, but that I still love and

(48:59):
care about her. I didn't want to lash out at her,
so I told her we could talk about it some
other time and reassured her again that I still love her.
She responded with, Okay, I love him. I'll be here
when you're ready to talk. I'm sorry you've had a
bad day and that this contributed to that. I thought
that was the end of that, but not too long
after this, I then get a message from my step
mom saying, just to be clear, I was not told

(49:20):
that this man was a PDF file. I was told
that the covenue owner had a fight in a parking
lot while wasted and he had ap with him or
something like that. I would have never told anyone not
to tell you. The venue owner did that and to
keep it a secret. I just didn't want your dream
wedding to be ruined over a fight in a parking lot.
Good Night, I love you, twitch, I responded, I love

(49:42):
you too. I just need some space for a while
to cool down. Good night. Shortly after I sent that message,
my bile father called me and told me my stepmother
was freaking out about me being mad about the situation.
Which can't you just why can't people ever respect the
Yeah whatever, I just needed a minute to cool I
hope he is being.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
So inc 'redibly nice about the situation, especially when they
all lied to her. Yeah, and I'll be He's like, yeah, no,
where I get it. Just need a moment, and they're like.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Like shut up, you know, yeah, just come on, come on.
He said I needed to message her and let her
know I wasn't upset and that it wasn't her fault
so she would stop freaking out because it was bad
for her health. To keep the peace. I ended up
messaging her the following me, I'm not mad at you.
I don't blame you for anything. I know you had
good intentions. I just feel a bit humiliated that I
had to find out from a photographer. I'm glad I

(50:31):
found out before Save the Dates went out, because if
anyone looked at the reviews and saw the part where
it said, and please, for the love of sanity, google
search the venue owner's full name, state, and city, this
venue is not child friendly. It is not family friendly.
I would have been mortified, even more so if they
did google it and found the articles I did. I'm
dealing with a lot of complicated emotions right now, and
I wish I had been told by my family instead

(50:52):
of finding out this way. It could have become a
really bad situation. But I also understand it can be
hard to broach the topic. I just need some time
to process thoughts. I'm not mad at you, though, just
my situation as a whole. I'm not mad at you
at all. My biggest concern was the pdf file thing.
I get how you would not want to ruin my
day over a parking lot brawl. This was not my concern.

(51:13):
I mostly hurt by the other part. And I know
that you would have told me had you known. She responded,
with okay, honey, and I'm not happy about this whole
situation myself. I'm sure you're shocked and devastated. I don't
know what to say, but this is exactly what I
was hoping wasn't going to happen. I just didn't know
the second piece of this and was getting really confused.
Good night. After that, I sulked with my fiance for

(51:33):
a while and then went to bed because I had
to drive several hours for a work trip the next day.
While I was driving, my biofather started blowing up my phone.
Biofather said, good morning again. I'm truly sorry. I hope
this doesn't create resentment towards us. We wanted to figure
out how to approach you. Stepsister didn't say anything because
I had asked her to let me deal with it.
And again Stepmom was not aware. She did know beforehand,

(51:54):
which was proven later in screenshots between her and stepsister,
but at the time I'm getting so much conflicting info
that I didn't clock the timeline until later. We didn't
want you to lose your deposit, and I was under
the impression that you had put down forty five hundred
as a deposit, and we were devastated to think you
would lose your deposit. No other venue lined up, and
we had no clue how to fix it. Again, we
had your best interest at heart, and we didn't know
how to tell you without ruining your wedding. This is,

(52:16):
this is so much.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
So extra literally could they said so like, I'm so
sorry we made a bad call. We will do you know,
whatever needs to be done to help you fix all
this mess.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Could have just been that you just say ye.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
It was like, are you mad at us? Are you
mad at us?

Speaker 1 (52:33):
So I'm sorry?

Speaker 2 (52:33):
This was all the reasons, here's all the excuses. Are
you mad at us?

Speaker 1 (52:37):
It's the same. Yes, for baby, I have bad news.
You're not gonna want to use your wedding anymore. Your
wedding venue, you're not gonna want to use it any Why. Well,
the venue owner has some extremely troubling behavior. Boom boom done.
When I didn't respond because I was in and out
of meetings, he forward me a message of his correspondence
with my step sister. My god, it came through all
as one text message, and I didn't have the time

(52:58):
to read the whole thing until much later. But essentially
it was them pressuring my sister not to say anything,
and pretty much bullying her into thinking I would hate her.
She would be doing nothing but ruining everything I worked
for if she told me, then my biofather continues, this
is the conversation that occurred when we found out about
the parking lot incident. After that was when I looked
him up online and found the article. This will show
you that we were all trying to figure out what

(53:20):
to do present this issue to you. This conversation happened
on April the ninth. We didn't even have time to
process it ourselves and try to figure out what to
help you with. So all this that you wish your
family would have told you, and all your embarrassed and
all that, guess what, we were trying to look out
for you. So if you can't see that, then that's
on you.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
And now now they're blaming OP. Now it's circled back
from an apology into just blaming OP. Dude. I would
be like, hey, I really didn't care before, Please leave
me alone.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
What's that sound digging that hole, digging that hole extra
extra deep.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Yeah, they're like, oh, we didn't know about the dirts.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
We just kept digging and honestly. Again, the solution is
just go, oh my god, I just found out something
that you're gonna be upset about, but you have to
know it's true anyway. I admittedly did not read that
whole text either until a while later, but I didn't
want to make the situation worse, so I responded as
quickly as I could with Hey, I'm just about to
jump in a meeting. I was driving when your first
message came through, and have been in and out of

(54:19):
appointments and meetings since, so I haven't had the time
to respond. But I appreciate the apology and I get
y'all were looking out for me. Just needed a bit
to process and plan the next Stepps love ya, to
which he just responded by sending me his last paragraph again. Eventually,
I was off work and called him, which basically turned
into me apologizing forever, saying I was upset and again.
I thought that was the end of that, but then
the next day, in the middle of dealing with the

(54:41):
crisis at work, I randomly get a text from my
stepmother saying you and stepsister's drama has now caused me
great distress. I really don't want to hear from either
of you. You guys really need to grow up. The
way that you pretended that you didn't know stepsister knew
just to trick her just shows that you're craving drama.
I want no part of any of this anymore, and
it has handedly destroyed my relationship with my family member.

(55:02):
The news should have been handled in a mature way.
You should have addressed the situation and been honest. Because
of what you did, stepsister and I are at each
other's throats and our relationship is done. I won't talk
to her ever again. Thank you me. What are you
even talking about? I'm so lost and confused. Stepmother, you
called stepsister and pretended you didn't know that she knew
about the venue issue, and then at the end said, oh,

(55:23):
but you knew, didn't you. And it's just not the
mature way to handle things, and it has turned everyone
against each other trying to place blame. My relationship with
her is now over. I really can't handle this stuff.
I shouldn't even have been having to deal with this.
I'm sick and now devastated. Stop it, you the difficult one,
Quit it.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Stop it.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
You knew he knew. You could have both said it earlier,
and instead you said nothing, and it would have made
OP look down the line like she supported a PDF
file and didn't think he did anything wrong. Okay, it's all.
That's all. That's all you, baby girl.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
You're telling me that you're blaming Ope for bullying your daughter.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
You're like my lives in deceit have been by your truth.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
I hate you talk to me because I bullied her
over this.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
It was crazy against me. You have done that yourself.
I ended up going out to my car and calling
her to ask what the heck's going on and try
to smooth things over. She yelled and cried about how
my stepsister and I are ruining her life and her
reputation with our drama, and how she is the victim
in all this. She said, I should have handled the
situation maturely. I was literally just coming out of a

(56:26):
work call that essentially told me that my position, which
I worked years to get into and was even in
the process of relocating for, was being eliminated. I would
either have to accept a demotion or be laid off.
When all the messages from my stepmother started flooding in,
I just didn't have the capacity to deal with this.
Drama on top of that. So when she started laying
into me, I started crying hysterically. I honestly just wanted
the situation to be over. I felt like my world

(56:48):
was crumbling and I was on the edge of a cliff.
I cried, saying I didn't even care about the stupid
wedding venue anymore, that I was over it and wished
we could just drop the whole thing and move forward.
I essentially just got a brief sorry that happened to you,
and then she continued on about how evil my stepsister
is and how she's so sick about the situation and
its effect on her health. I told her I had
to go, and I called my bio father. I left
him a message saying I don't know what's going on

(57:09):
between him, stepsister and set Mom, but I can't handle
all the drama of it right now. If he could
just set the nonsense aside and be a god dang
father to me for five e fing seconds, I feel
like drowning right now and I really needed some support.
I said all this while still bawling. He called back
a minute later and immediately started in about how dare
you speak to me that way? Brother? She teed you up.

(57:31):
She gave you the juiciest little underhand toss for you
to hit right out of the park and instead, Ben
Tem you took the bat and you smacked her with it.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
That's not cool seeing them out teeing them up crazy,
So multiple times like yeah, totally get it. Not mad
at you, just you know, was a little bit disappointed,
and they're like like, shut up, just take the wind man.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
And just in a voice like I guess take a
speak to me that way. You're just a little boy,
GoJ that do. He went into a lecture about he
is my father and I need to treat him with respect.
I just quietly cried to myself, zoning out while he
was ranting, until he finally said, okay, so what's going on?
This switch up is insane. These people are emotionally on

(58:15):
the centered Clessie. By that point I felt so devastated
and numb. I just monotonously explained what was said in
the work cause briefly as I could, and told him
I had to go and thanked him for calling me.
I came to a hard realization in that moment, one
that I had always known but never wanted to truly
admit to myself, I could be on the edge of
a cliff ready to jump, but if it came between
me and his ego, my biofather would push me on.

(58:38):
He gave you the old Thanoskimora. That's when I decided
I needed to emotionally distance myself from that side of
the family. I kept contact and still spoke with my
biofather so that I could remain in my little brother's life,
but I kept the conversations mostly about work and game
plans for dealing with his situation. It was the easiest
thing to talk about because my biofather liked to give
his opinion and it has a bit of a savior complex.

(58:59):
So these conversations allowed me to stay as emotionally distant
as possible while still able to keep the peace. Giving
him updates on my job search gave me the excuse
to contact him just enough that he and his wife
would not start the resentment campaign that they do when
someone doesn't contact them in a few weeks, while also
showing I was busy enough that I had a valid
excuse for not driving the five hours one way to
visit them anytime I had free time. Even more drama

(59:21):
erupted after this, which would honestly have to be a
whole different post, but I just slowly stopped reaching out.
Then I noticed they both unfriended me on Facebook, and
I decided to put them on an information diet by
blocking them. I ended up keeping contact to just birthdays
and holidays, always me messaging them first, and occasionally my
biofather would respond with it you two. I cried when
my birthday passed and I didn't get so much as

(59:43):
a happy birthday. I wasn't surprised, but it's still hurt.
And like, honestly, these you know, in the parent child relationship,
it's like, I feel like the mending of it is
like it balls within the realm of the parents to begin.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Some the men when they've freaking started all of that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
If you don't have the awareness or that there even
is something to mend, then it's like what do you
you know, especially when you try to work on that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
You tried to mend such a minor situation, and then
they made it into like a freaking world ending.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Yeah, and they just turned it into uh, actually this
is all your fault now is actually mostly your fault,
and this is exactly what we thought was gonna happen
if we told you, which is why we didn't want to.
And it's like, Dad, why is your friend a PDF file?
Why are you not telling me that? Why are you
not telling me that your friend is end of the
day a fan of the Adobe file format system.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Weirdo.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
And now here we are we found a new venue,
and I'm agonizing on whether or not to send them
a Save the day. And by the way, you can
save the date. It's today and tomorrow and the day
after that, and that's the days every day that we
add new episodes with stories just like this. All you
gotta do is go to Apple Podcasts or Spotify or
or iHeartRadio and search okay, story time, and there you

(01:00:56):
will have a.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Treat for the sense treasure of stories.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
A treasure tree. Great snakes, She'll say, because great, googlely Moogly,
there's so many stories in there. Great, we have a
little bit more story left and I've finished cooking. So
do we have anything to add here? No?

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
I think you just don't need to send them a
Save of the day. They have shown you tried to
smooth that situation over so many times, only for them
to literally make it ten times worse and then blame
it all on you. So I think, for a peace
of mind, you do not have to invite.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Yeah, and then they block you on Facebook like they're
twelve years old.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Weird crazy weirdo.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
It is crazy. Yes, I know I have people please
your syndrome. I've been working on upping my calcium for
my backbone and cutting the BS from my diet, but
it's been hard. Doctor. I keep reflecting on all that
had happened and how this incident really pushed a lot
of it into motion. The thing is, I feel like
I really did handle it in a mature manner. I
let them know I was disappointed and needed space, but
tried so hard to keep the peace, and everything just

(01:01:54):
snowball there from nothing. So I ask, am I the
a hole for expressing my disappointment? Should I still invite
them to the wedding? If I don't, it would be
drawing a line in the sand that I can't come
back from. Your dad line. Your dad unfriended you from Facebook.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
That's a line that they've already drawn. You're just that's
just authetic, little big boy line, and you're upholding the
line you're playing and drawing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
It you're planning with their rules. Yeah, so if they
feel like they missed out and you go, dang, you know,
I would have invited you, but I couldn't send you
your Facebook.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Invite, couldn't find you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
You probably could have seen everything you needed to see
on my Facebook.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Yeah, but since you blocked me, I guess, I guess
you can't even see that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Guess that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
I didn't know people like to go to the weddings
of people they've blogged.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Yeah, but that's the end of that story. Hey, it's
John here. We're gonna get back to the stories.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Put a quick three minute ad break from our sponsors
that keep the show going.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
My father's partner won't respect my daughter's boundaries, so we
sidestepped their surprise party. My thirty three female daughter, Cleo
five year old, hate pink. She has disliked the color
and almost everything to do with it since she was
about three or so. She has one pink shirt she
likes and one pink stuffed animal. And that's it. By
the way, this comes from Daughter Party Throw And if

(01:03:06):
you want to smit your own stories, got to our
slash Okay storytime suppurate it. So my father's partner, Pru
refuses to accept that Cleoor doesn't like pink. Over the years,
she's made several attempts to push the collar onto her
pretty much every gift she's ever given her with some
shade of pink. No matter how many times I tell
her to stop, she has tried to give me dozens
of different reasons why I should encourage my daughter to

(01:03:27):
try different shade. It clearly upsets Cleo, but Prue keeps
doing it. About a week ago, my father invited me,
my husband, and our children for dinner at his place.
He said he and Pru had a surprise for the kids.
Right before we left home, my younger sister, who still
lives with our father, texted me. She warned me that
the surprise was actually a small birthday party Preu had

(01:03:49):
planned for Cleo. That alone threw me off because my
daughter's birthday was in November. My father did miss her
actual birthday party due to work, but still also, my
son turns nine in so I figured his would be
the next party we'd have. Then she sent me photos
about the place was decorated, and it was very clearly
not meant for Cleo. Literally every piece of decor was pink.

(01:04:11):
The table, the tableware, are the balloons, everything she has gotten.
Pink banners include pink foil, fringe, curtains on the doors,
even the cake was pink.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Why why why, why why why?

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
Why?

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Why are we forcing these silly little gender stereotypes onto
five year old so she.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Has to like the color pink. She's the girl. If
you've ever played the Game of Life, they're pink.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
And the boy pieces are blue, so she.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Have to be.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
I showed everything to my husband and we agreed not
to take the kids there. I texted my father the
following Hey, sister told me everything. We're not coming. We're
taking the kids to McDonald's and telling them that was
your surprise. You and Prue can come if you want.
We're pan We did exactly that. My father did show
up without Prue, but he was cold with us and
left twenty minutes after arriving. Both him and Prue are pissed.

(01:05:01):
My father is angry that my husband and I dismissed
his partner's heartfelt gestured towards our daughter.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
Not heartfelt.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Not heartfelt. She's just trying to enforce pink on your daughter.
Prue also told me that I'm the reason in Cleo,
it's restrictev. I also don't like pink, and I'm raising
her to be an ungrateful, spoiled brat who is unwilling
to compromise. To be honest, I get how I could
be in the wrong here, but at the same time,
this just felt like Prue trying to push something Cleo
doesn't like onto her Yet again, My sister and one
of my brothers are on my side, though my sister

(01:05:28):
did say I had been rude. My other brother is
on the fence. Am I the ale at it? My
daughter doesn't know I dislike pink, nor would I care
if she did like it. No, you're not the a hole.
Your parents clearly don't care about your daughter at all,
because one, it's not even her birthdays. It's like what
they're throwing this weird little birthday party that is not
made for your daughter's you know, interests at all.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
I wonder where this behavior comes from. Where's the emotional
core of somebody being like, yeah, my five year old
daughter doesn't like pink, and then you have to be like, oh,
will see about that, Oh will make her like bank?

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Oh, don't too worry.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Why are you making my daughter's birthday about you being
right about the color pink? Weirdo, just make it the
color she likes me. Yeah, her birthday.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
She's five, literally, and if you can't do that, then
don't throw the birthday party.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
She's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
But there is an update. Hey guys, I ended up
leaving a lot of comments on my ama the a
hole post, which many of which say the same thing
over and over. Oh, I wanted to clarify some things.
Cleo and Preu are both fake knives. We're not American.
Prue's forty six years old, and I don't call her
my stepmother because she's only thirteen years older than me. Also,
she's not married to my father, but they've been together
for twelve years. I have nothing against her. We're just

(01:06:40):
not close. Cleo's interests are pretty balanced. She likes princesses, cars, robots,
and dolls. She loves science and outer space. She does
ballet and loves it too. She's the only girl in
her ballet class who wears black. Her teacher calls her
black Swan. She's not a girly girl, but I wouldn't
call her a tomboy either. She's just a kid who
hates pink. Leo's favorite color are yellow and blue. Though

(01:07:01):
I understand the assumption Cleo dislikes pink because of me,
that's not the case. I hate pink, but I'm not
disgusted by it. I wear pink clothing around my children.
I occasionally dressed Cleo and pink as a baby. I
own pink stuff and buy it for myself. My kids
don't know I don't like pink. They've chosen pink gifts
for me in the past. According to my son, I
love all the colors. My father and Prue know it

(01:07:23):
because I disliked pink since long before I had children.
There's plenty of stuff I hate that my children like,
and vice versa. They don't have to care about these things,
so I don't tell them. Cleo's more boyish taste also
annoyed Prue. I wonder why, Wow, the lady that is
enforcing pink on this five year old is annoyed that
the five year old's kind of a tomboy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
I guarantee you she's a podcast and she's like, well,
we just wouldn't want her to grow.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Up, and she's like she has to act like ladies.
She's the type of person who's like, whenever Cleo's around
other boys in her gray, She's like, Oh, is that
your boyfriend? Is that other five year old your boyfriend?

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Yeah, that's whack. Five year old is five year olds
having boyfriends?

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Not as much as the pink thing, but enough that
my husband and I know. Cleo's birthday party last November
was themed after Super Mario Bros. And Prue actually asked
me why I was allowing that Cleo is open about
hating pink. She has expressed that to Prue several times.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I just have to reference the
fact that she's like, how are you allowing your child
to have their party be centered around literally one of
the most, if not the most popular child's intellectual property
of all time. Yeah, it's a little silly, you fool.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
That's a little selly.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Have you a fool?

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Are you silly fool? Both my kids are polite. Whenever
Prue gives my daughter something pink, Cleo thinks her she'll
sometimes ask proof she can give her something yellow next time,
and she doesn't act as excited as she gets when
other people give her something she actually likes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
But that's it. We let Cleo.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
Choose which of her gifts she wants to exchange. She
always asks to exchange pink stuff. If it can't be exchanged,
she won't play with it or wear it. We either
give those away to her friends or donate them to Cherry.
Cleo does have friends who love pink. Her best friend
loves it and wouldn't complain if they threw pink parties
for themselves. She'd know those aren't about her. But the
second you make it about her. AKA threw her a

(01:09:11):
pink party, then she'd be upset. Cleo would have loathed
the party. She would have started crying immediately. She wouldn't
have eaten the cake, she wouldn't have had fun. I
didn't tell Cleo about the party for a number of reasons.
Most importantly, I didn't want her to get upset. I
also knew that letting her see it would ruin my
father's image in her eyes. Cleo is already upset that
Preu doesn't care about what she likes, and I didn't

(01:09:32):
want to get frustrated at her grandfather too. Yes, my
daughter does in fact hate pink. Yes, I'm well aware
that might change someday. No, I wouldn't care if it did.
I think that's all I wanted to say here. Feel
free to ask me any other questions you may have,
and there is another update.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Any thought great comment brings up that she has an
older brother. Also, yeah, probably she's looking up to her
older brother. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Absolutely, a lot of Sim's pink like things so Sam liked,
you know, influenced my taste things as well. It happened anyway,
and there is an update though. First of all, I
apologize to my sister a few hours after I made
my original post. I'm very grateful for what she did,
but I'll do my best to keep her away from
those conflicts moving forward. Thank you to those who defended her. Secondly,

(01:10:17):
I went through your comments with my husband, and our
main takeaway was that we did what we had to
do to protect Cleo, even if it wasn't what we
do in most circumstances. Had either of us been surprised
with a party decorated with something we openly hated, we
would have set up and ignored it. It act, but
were adults and it comes with the territory. Cleo, however,
is five years old. She wouldn't deal with this the

(01:10:38):
same way, nor would we expect her to. Knowing my daughter,
she would have been miserable at that party, so ultimately
we don't regret not taking her there. On Saturday, we
took the kids to spend the afternoon at my brother's
place with her cousins. In the meantime, we invited my
father and Prove over to talk. My husband and I
told them that we wanted them to abide by the following.
No more surprise parties without our knowledge and approval, no

(01:10:59):
more pushing the color pink onto Cleo, including pink gifts,
and no more calling our children spoiled for being allowed
to dislike things. If they didn't agree to our terms,
we would no longer take the kids to their place,
and there would be a good chance we'd lower our
contact with them in the future. Prue didn't say anything
at first. My father tried to argue that we should
at least thank her for the party, but I said no.

(01:11:20):
I told them the problem wasn't that Prue threw a
party for my daughter that was dedicated to her own interests.
It was that she specifically chose something she knows my
daughter hates and centered everything around it. We wouldn't thank her,
and we wouldn't apologize. That's when Prue chimed in. She
tried to tell us we were raising our daughter to
be up brad again. So I asked, why are you

(01:11:41):
so insistent on pink? She didn't answer at first, but
then she said she knew Cleo did love pink, she
just didn't know it yet. Wow. And to that, I asked,
would you be this pushy if it was about any
other color. Prue tried to say that didn't matter. But
when my husband asked her if she'd care if Cleo
hated blue, she said she doesn't need to like blue.
He replied that she didn't need to like pink either.
He told Prue that she had no right to decide

(01:12:03):
what Cleo should and shouldn't like. Cleo hates pink, and
if she can't be an adult and respect that, then
she doesn't need to be around our children. Good aunt you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
It is absolutely ridiculous that this is a conversation flowing
out of a groan to mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
She's gotta like pink. But you can hear conversation flow
out of our mouths if you listen to full episodes
of stories just like this. Just go to Spotify, Apple
Podcasts or iHeartRadio and search a poky storytime. There's a
little bit left to the story. I think that you
got You and your husband are doing the right thing.
You're just putting your foot down saying like, hey, you
need to stop or you're not going to be able
to be around the kids.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Yeah, you need to knock off the unhinged behavior regarding
the color pink, regarding just gendered colors, relaxed, weirdo.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
It is five. It's so crazy like what they want.
In the end, my father and Prue agreed to our terms.
I'm not confident about her, but I did speak to
my father. I said, I know that he has a
hard time saying no to Prue, but he ruinous relationships
with me and my children if he keeps enabling his partner.
My father promised he wouldn't let this happen again. I
hope this works out. Cleo is a great kid, and

(01:13:08):
I hope my father and Prue can finally start seeing that.
Thank you all for everything. And that's the end of
that story.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
Remember, folks, pink is for girls only and more all.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
The stories that if you're a girl you have to
wear pants.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
And that's and if that girl pink Boy's blue. Easy,
that's it. You hope he had followed the rules. Okay,
everything would be fine.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Wouldn't have had this for all?

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Okay, Now, all those out there who maybe don't know
what humor is. That was sarcasm, I think, come back
to me, Come back back. Everyonees it was all a joke.
It was all a joke. Little girls can wear whatever
the color they want, Little boys can wear whatever color
they want. Fully grown men and women wear whatever colors
they want. It really has nothing to do with anyone.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Gender is a social construct. But that is the end
of that story. We love you and see it tomorrow.

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