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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My parents won't stop playing favorites with their grandkids, so
I refuse to help them. Hey, I play favorites with
my grandkids. I played not favorites with my parents. Yeah,
am I dayle for taking all the stuff I've provided
to my parents for my kids. Background, my parents have
always favored one grandchild over the others, and it has
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been shown since day one. By the way, this comes
from Itchy ad sixty three ninety two on the R
Size Okay Storytime subrend. Granddaughter Abby Spoiled one and granddaughter
Bri Mine Younger are a couple of months apart in age.
It's fun and nice to have cousins close in age,
but my parents have always had more to do with Abby.
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They've always seen her more and do more with her
than Bri, despite us both living in the same town.
Last week, me and my family spouse, son, and daughter
were invited over to my parents for dinner to celebrate
my birthday. After getting there, my mom informs me my
siblings and their family is joining us too. I say, oh,
I didn't know that. She then says, well, figured you
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want to celebrate with everyone. Sure, it's fine. Problem though,
is my mom doesn't have stuff at her house for
all the kids. Example, she's the only one that has
a high chair, but there's two kids at dinner that
need a high chair. Had she told me they were coming,
I could have brought one, but didn't inform me. Therefore,
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granddaughter Abby got to sit in the high chair up
on the table with us, and I had to sit
with my daughter in my lap and try to eat. Meanwhile,
we're celebrating my birthday and I'm having a hard time
even eating. It was annoying.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, yeah, it sounds annoying having to eat with a
kid in your lap. That's why they make those chairs.
They're like little they're like little uh yeah restraint. They're
like little straight jackets for kids, just for the so
they could eat without without escaping way. You know, parents
understand then, yeah, they are just take a little mini jail.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
It's a food jail. I had two brothers that I
had to do this with kid brothers.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Would you call it food jail?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Sure? Sure? Yeah, sometimes cake jail when it was their
first birthday, Kate. Oh yeah. Then on Thanksgiving we show
up to my parents and we're over an hour late
due to my mom never actually telling me a time
we're supposed to be there, I guess based on previous years,
which would have put us on time. They waited for
us to eat, but then again, there's only one high
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chair and three kids there on the holiday who need one,
and my mom says, okay, granddaughter Abby, get in the
high chair. No one, no questions of who's going in
the high chair or if they're going to take turns. Nothing.
I'm annoyed. They all waited over an hour supposedly for
us to get there to eat, but no one said
anything to me needed to bring a high chair. I
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was already bringing a lot to Thanksgiving and didn't think
I needed to bring that too, thinking she would tell
others to bring there since they weren't bringing as much
as me. Okay, whatever. My daughter's ignored, like always then
looking at the table to eat, and she doesn't have
enough to and she doesn't have enough plates set out.
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At that point, I said, screw it. I'm leaving. Clearly
we're not thought of and I don't feel welcome. I
pack up the kids and get them out to the
car to leave. My son is saying he wants to
stay and eat, and my spouse says they'll take him
in so they can eat. I say, that's fine, I'm
not going back in. I stay in the vehicle scrolling
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social media while they go eat. My dad comes out
and tells me to grow up and take responsibility. I
told him, y'all sat here for how long knowing there's
one high chair, and none of you thought to message
me or call me and let me know to bring mine.
He said, enough of the blame game. Take responsibility for
not bringing yours.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I mean, that's not it's not really that fair.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
It's not that fear.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
She's it's Thanksgiving, she's got this kid. It's like, do
you know how hard it is to wrangle a small
child on a holiday when you've got meals.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And food you're also trying to bring, Like and dad,
It's not about the high chair. You have to look
deeper than this, right, It's not the high chair.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
It's the baseline disrespect that is being shown to Opie
and her child.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yep, just disregard. I said, how about granddaughter Abby goes
without it since they didn't bring one either. I supply
you and mom with all kinds of things for my
kids to make it easier on you. Yet I'm still
expected to do and bring more because what I give
is use for others and I don't care as long
as my kids are getting what they need. He told me, whatever,
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take your crap, and I said I will, so I didn't.
I took everything I've given them to have for my
children when they are there, car seats, baby gates, toys, cups, plates, toothbrushes, diapers, whites,
everything that was mine.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
You're gonna have to learn how to go without now.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
And Abby's gonna cry now being told on the a hole.
And I hurt the other kids because I took my
stuff back I had there for my kids, and I'm
being blamed because one of the kids actually got hurt
because I took the baby gate. And I feel bad. Okay,
got hurt, but I also don't feel I'm responsible for that.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Like they're saying, okay, wait pause, because like taking the
baby gate, that might have just been one step too far.
You could take all the other stuff, you don't take
the safety equipment. But it is proving the point where
it's like, oh, well, why didn't you bring your own
baby gate? Like that would be the exact same logic
that's being thrown at her. Yeah, so's it does make
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it clear that it's not fair, But don't take the
baby gate for future reference. Don't take the baby gate.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I'm responsible for my kids, not others, even when they
benefit from what I do for my kids. And when
I was told to take my stuff, I did. I
feel like they just use me for what I do
or supply what makes it easier for them, but none
of them and realize how much it is until it's gone,
and they blame me because they don't have it. So
am I the a hole for taking my stuff after
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my dad told me to? And we got a freaking
up date, y'all where we going to dive into it?
Right now? We can dive in right now? All right,
let's go. High chair is my mom's, so she wanted
to add some details. High chair is my moms that
she got for her house. She has a few things
for the kids, but I supplied a big chunk of
her things for her. I believe it's my responsibility to
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make sure my kids have whatever they need whenever they
are there. I didn't care if any other kids benefited
from what I brought, with the condition that it's mine
and my kids get to use it, and the others
can have it when they are present. So I left
everything on my parents' house for them to have whenever
they needed it. For any kid in my core, I
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want all kids to be happy, healthy and safe. Anyone
who knows me, I will go above and beyond for
a child. I double check car seats for parents. I
buy diapers and wives and parents need it. I make
sure kids have something on their birthday to know that
you have thought of and loved. I love with all
of my heart and I give my all, and I
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know that screws me at times, So believe me when
I say I was crushed and hurting when my sister
in law texting me a child was hurt because you
took your baby gate. That's what made me come to Reddit.
I questioned everything I did because of that one statement.
So thank you to those that told me not to
and it was not my fault. There's a lot of
talking that happened with me and my mom about Thanksgiving.
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I told her, you and Dad need to make a
plan to have food ready by one pm if you
were wanting to eat by three pm, because you guys
are always running late. Loll. She laughed and agreed with me. Therefore,
I interpreted that food was being ready by three pm,
not one pm. She never did tell me a time again,
so I planned for the normal three pm time that
I've done my entire life. We talked on the phone
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three times that day and various things in regards to Thanksgiving,
but being told to bring on highchair it was not
one of them. If you ask my siblings, I'm the spoiled,
rotten favorite, being the youngest. They also refuse to see
me as an adult and not a child, so if
anything happens, I can be blamed, and I am being
in therapy for the majority of my adult life. I've
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learned my family is abusive or has abusive tendencies, So
I've learned they manipulate me by telling me you're the
spoiled one, You're the baby, You're the favorite, and you
could be our favorite. Every weekd at three PMPSD. We
need you to want to slive on Facebook, Yeah, YouTube, Twitch
and TikTok boom. You'll tap your profile, You'll be our baby.
We don't care. Is OP actually the spoiled one here
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or we being abusive?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Well, there's no way to know for a fact because
we don't have the full context of her entire upbringing
or anything, but.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Like it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Feel spoiled to just be like, what come on, guys,
someone should have give me a heads up. I needed
a highchair here. And it's like, you know, whise, I
don't necessarily know if what we've read can be classified
as like my grandparents are clearly playing favorites with like
this one kid, like Abby, she's getting in the high chair.
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It's like, I don't know. It seems like I'm sure
there's other contexts in which that's happened, but like there
is a point to like, if this has happened in
the past and you've had a situation where it's like
the high chair is not there, well you should be
aware maybe might be the high chair. But also this
is Thanksgiving, You've got probably a lot of other stuff
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going on. If you're bringing food, yeah, you know, it's
it's understandable that that might go by the wayside, especially
if there's a bunch of people there who could give
you the heads up. Hey, by the way, we don't
have three highchairs, so you might want to bring yours
would have been nice, So I can understand that. But
then also taking the baby gate, I get I get
the line, but that one like you could have taken
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everything else and not the baby gate.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Cross the line that's crossing.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Why can't I do this crossing the line?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
There we go. I really couldn't figure that out. We're
gonna finish this up. A few people said to go
to my in laws for family functions. My own laws
are beyond worse than my own family. The favoritism is extreme.
Mother in law doesn't like me because I took her
baby boy away from her. Oh my gosh, but that's
a whole different can of worms. Needless to say, I'm
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very low contact with them, and after this post, I'm
going to be low contact with my own family. I'll
opdate after I talk to my parents about it all,
and I'll let y'all know, and I'll let y'all know
how they take being told. Me and my family will
be going low contact.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
And that is the end of that story.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Good move, Op, that's tough, very tough thing to do.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
But also, OP, you should apologize for the baby gate incident.
You should apologize if they if the kid got hurt
because you took the baby gate.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
You need to really you need to apologize profusely.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Apologize for that, because it's kind of that was a
that was a high school type of move to do,
especially knowing that it's there to keep a baby safe.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
There to keep a kids safe. So but yep, that's
the end.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
That is the end of that story. My cousin's jealousy
destroyed my daughter's confidence, and she won't apologize. Maybe your
daughter should just be a better person. Oh, I think
she is such a good person. That's why the cousin's
so jealous does sound much anyway. Op is forty nine female.
Her cousin who's getting married is twenty three female. The
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daughter in question, who is the aerialist, is sixteen female.
I hope this is okay to share. The reason I'm
posting is because of my daughter, who's been hurting in
the aftermath of a recent performance. I'm sorry in advance
for how long this turned out, but any but any
advice from fellow aerialists would be greatly appreciated.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Okay, good. I thought it was this theater and also
got to be like, oh my gosh, no aerialist. Do
you know what aerialist is?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I'm sorry you're disrespecting the theater.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I have a pretty I have a lot of baggage
with theater chicks. Okay, a fair enough. I have to
live with one. Yea, I was a theater boy. I
was a little theater rat. Yeah, man, I was. I
was John and the Little Woman John Brook.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Oh see, we didn't get to do cool plays like that.
Are anyway I could rant about my drama teacher?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Oh yeah, you can anyway.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
By the way, this comes from user throw away the
Finances on the r slash okay storytime subreddit. So my cousin,
Dana not real name, had her wedding two weeks ago,
and she asked if my daughter could perform at her reception.
My daughter, Jane, also a fake name, had has practiced
silks and lyra for the past few years at a
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nearby circus studio, and she's also performed with Slash through
the studio at small gigs.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Just for anyone watching who's not familiar with what we're
talking about, it's like people who do like acrobatics on
like curtains almost like you're like they're like big flowy
drapes like pieces of cloth, and they like swing around
and do all kinds of flips.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
And if you don't know go to the zoo keeper
at the wedding scene that they crash and there's a
scene of these people doing that, the zoo keeper Kevin James.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Anyways, she hopes to continue this into adulthood and become
a professional teacher, but this recent incident has shaken her confidence.
She has a private Instagram to document her progress and performances,
and I only post certain performances on my Facebook. Her
first gig with the studio and her first recital, to
name a few that we're proud of.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Okay, cool, you're being an awesome mom.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yes, w mom supportive in a way that your daughter's
comfortable with.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, just like how any mom would hopefully, how any
good mom would do.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Well.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
My mom's great.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
She's very supportive, but sometimes she can be so supportive
that it makes me anxious, and I have to tell
her to like that I love her deeply and that
I appreciate.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It so much, but that it just really needs to.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Like just a little bit less, a little bit less,
and it's not your fault, it's on me, but like, please, let's.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Why on Facebook to see what mom's saying about me.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Some of our relatives saw her performances through my socials,
and they watched her perform at her studio's Christmas recital
when we hosted Christmas at our home a few years back,
something that surprised her when they visited early to see her.
I love how they coordinated that, and Jane said it
was her loudest cheering section to date.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
So that's good positive memories.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Dana was one of the relatives who came up early
to see her Christmas recital, and she's always been super supportive.
She asked me if Jane would be willing to perform
at the reception, and I asked on her behalf. Jane
was honored and excited when I did, and we already
had a portable rig for her too, though we ended
up renting a taller one from her studio. Dana got
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the idea from a YouTube video featuring an aerialist who
performed at a wedding reception, and she showed us while
requesting white silks and a white outfit. We scoped out
the venue and purchased white silks along with a white
costume that Dana approved of, and Jane was really excited throughout.
I feel like it's a bold move going white costume
at your wedding, right, Like maybe they're trying to do
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a little artsy thing, but like I hope she doesn't
just like flip the script and is like, I don't
want you to wear white?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Like I can see that happen. Are fans. Out of
all of the things that they've been split on with
the poll, the one thing that they're always one hundred
percent on is not worrying why to a wedding.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Jane even worked on choreography to a song that Dana requested,
and she put a lot of time into it, even
asking one of her coaches to help her with it.
Dana insisted on paying her for the gig, despite Jane
not expecting to be paid, and she paid her a
few hundred However, Dana has had a change of heart.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Oh boy.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Jane received a standing ovation after her performance that surprised her,
But we didn't know anything was wrong until Dana went
on Facebook a few days later. Dana said she didn't
approve of the outfit Jane wore and that she specifically
told her to not wear white.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Come on, look who was right? Go back to you him?
He was right and Dana's the bride, right. Ana is
the bride. Yep, you never wear right, no matter even
if the bride tells you, hey wear Why you never
wear white? Clearly. We have seen stories upon stories where
this Exac's instance has happened. You never wear white's a wedding,
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no matter what.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Even if they tell you clearly, because she just flipped
the script.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Don't do it. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
She also said that my husband and I pressured her
to have Jane perform and that the performance gave off
a quote unquote unclassy vibe lies that my husband and
I couldn't believe.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
She was saying, Oh man, it was like, here's what happened,
here's what happened. You wore you had the most special
day of your life. You wore a big wedding dress.
You you had head to toe looking beautiful, and then
someone stole the attention from you for how many How
long do you think not? You know, it's a performance.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I can't imagine it's a longer than five or ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, and you couldn't taken it. That's so hard to
do too, It's oh yeah, it takes a lot of core. Yeah,
and you can't handle that. You can't handle you literally
you can't handle the attention.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
You set yourself up to get upstaged at your own wedding,
and now you're making it Jane's fault instead of your
own fault. So we sent Dana numerous costume links and
we purchased the one she liked. There was also nothing
wrong with Jane's performance. Dana was one of the people
cheering afterwards. Jane received nothing but compliments, but I'm disgusted
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that she had to see that post after all the
work she put into her performance. The post also had
comments disabled. For what it's worth, Oh, she wouldn't even
let people clap back. Oh, Dana, that was a cowardly move, Dana.
So I called Dana to confront her about her lives,
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but she didn't pick up numerous calls. I then called
her parents, who like us, had received messages about her post,
and they said that Dana was wrong. They apologized on
her behalf and said they were also disgusted. Dana's mom
also said that Dana vented to her before making her post.
A few days after the reception, Dana told her that
she regretted asking Jane to perform given the attention, compliments,
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and cheers she received.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
For it.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Her mom also said that she felt upstaged with Jane
wearing white and having to hear how good she was.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
This is like the guy.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
This is like the meme of the guy riding a
bike and he takes a stick and shoves it into
the front wheel and falls down. Like that's what Dana
did to herself here yesterday.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
It was so funny, dude.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Honestly, that's a great stunt. Like shout out to all
the stunt men who who do that? Stuntman and stunt women,
but the stunt people. Yeah, he just said he women
can't do that.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
It's a great stunt. I didn't. There's stunt people, I
guess you know.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Anyway, Dana's parents tried to call her after she made
her post, but she didn't answer after their previous conversation
ended with her parents telling her she shouldn't be bitter
because she specifically asked Jane to perform. Dana's parents reported
the post along with us and others, and we've told
the truth to those who reached out along with a
post to explain our side and to stand up for Jane.
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We literally have text proof of sending costume links that
Dana chose from Dana's parents also requested to talk to
Jane on the phone to apologize for Dana's behavior. My
husband and I told Jane that Dana was wrong and
that we'll be distancing ourselves from Dana permanently. Dana's parents
were surprised at her behavior, and we were too, having
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seen her grown up. Granted, we only see extended family
for Thanksgiving in Christmas because we live far, but other
relatives were surprised too, as it seemed to come completely
out of left field. Maybe there's a site of Dana
we'll never know from our limited holiday slash milestone interactions,
but our focus is on Jane. We've tried to cheer
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Jane up by offering to take her to dinner, among
other activities, but she's been hurting, which is why I'm here.
Jane hasn't practiced at home or the studio since the reception,
and I don't want to invade her space at her
studio by asking or telling anyone there in case she
doesn't want anyone to know, which is a good move,
good job. You need to talk to her first before
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you decide to do that. She asked me to return
the white silks and costume after being so excited to
receive them. She also said she's going to take an
extended break from Ariel to reconsider if she wants to continue.
That would be a huge mistake, but we'll get into
that later.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Let's keep going.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Aside from Ariel, she's taking a break from seeing non
aerial friends too, choosing to pretty much.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Keep to herself.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
We would appreciate any advice from fellow aerialists on how
to lift her spirits. We remind her of how we're
proud of her, along with the many compliments she received,
but she's asked for space and to not talk about it.
We're going to respect that and let time do its thing,
but we'll consider any advice from other aerialists who can
relate to the time and work she put in. Sorry
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for this being so long, but we appreciate anyone who
reads and takes the time to reply. So we do
have an update here. Before I get into the update,
we've got the ages. The bride is twenty three, the
performers sixteen, with the bride being twenty three and the
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performer being sixteen, and like you know.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
They're they're probably Joe.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
The bride is young, it's it's understandable that she maybe
had that immature response, but I mean it's not it's
not forgiven or excusable, but it's like it makes sense
that this isn't like someone in their thirties or forties
like saying this to switch up like that, you know,
probably impulsively was like, oh, yeah, let's do the white
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because that's what the video that I saw looked like.
And it's like she wasn't really thinking, and then in
the moment she realized, Oh, I hate how I feel
like I'm being It's supposed to be me.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
It's me, me, me.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
This is my day, my day. Yeah, and it's fair.
It's your wedding. You get to make it your day.
But in terms of like how to go about I
think recovering the confidence, it's like sixteen is a real
delicate age. She doesn't want to talk about it. I
don't think you should just let it go because it
could really become a damaging thing. You don't want this
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to become like a core memory that, like in four
how she moves throughout her life from now on, because
it is completely on the bride for doing the switch up,
for lying, for deceiving and it's because she feels insecure
about her own stuff and she's now projecting that insecurity
onto Op's daughter, and you know that's not fair to her,
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but you can't strong arm it because it's just gonna
make her shut down. More So, if you can figure
out how to have this discussion about how to you know,
kind of stand ten toes down and if that makes
sense or like be like, you know, prop even if
people have you know, I want to talk crap on
you or talk down on you to like be faithful
in yourself and have your own beliefs in yourself. Maybe
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find a different context outside of the performance to have
that discussion. You know you're gonna have to maybe do
a little tactical conversation talk there because she clearly doesn't
want to talk about the moment.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
But let's get into the update.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Before I get into what's happened since my last post,
I want to thank everyone who took the time to comment.
Two pieces of advice really stood out, and I'll get
to them shortly. Since my original post, Dana's Facebook post
is gone. I don't know if she deleted it or
if enough people reported it for Facebook to remove it,
but We're glad it's gone either way.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I was gonna say, you repost that video, turn the
comments on, let us do its thing. That's what I
would have done.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, she never apologized to us or Jane or even
bothered to call, so our position on being permanently done
with Dana stands. My husband and I made a post
on Facebook addressing the lies she spewed about our daughter,
and we shared photo proof of Dana's texts where she
approved of Jane's white costume from the links we sent,
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not to mention the song choice that she sent us to.
Better Yet, Dana's mother reposted it on her account, which
really surprised me. Dana's mother wrote that they loved Jane's
act and that they disapproved off Dana's acttions. My husband
and I also made sure that Jane was okay with
us addressing it on Facebook, and she said it was fine. Again,
w parenting move, making sure your child is comfortable with this. Normally,
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I wouldn't use Facebook to address drama if it's aimed
at me, but since this involves a grown adult attacking
my daughter, a minor, we felt the need to address
it publicly because she disparaged her publicly, and Jane will
remember whether we stood up for her or not.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Years from now.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I had a chance to speak with Dana's mother since
my original post on the phone, and she spoke to
Dana again since our last call. Dana reiterated how she
regretted asking Jane to perform, but she harped on the
standing ovation that bothered her the most. Dana told her
that she expected Jane to get some polite applause, but
that the overwhelming response really sent her over the edge
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because she expected the loudest cheers to be when she
and her husband entered the reception, but that went to
Jane instead. So Dana's just like, I was jealous, really.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Jealous, that's what it wants from the beginning.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Does she think that's an appropriate excuse for her behavior? Though, Like,
that's absurd at twenty three to be like, but you
don't understand, I was really jealous and I was Everyone
enjoyed her more than me. That's not okay.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
That sounduacceptable. I have seen Worris.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
You gotta swallow that pill like an adult and say,
all right, and you know what, you cheered and applauded too.
If I remember correctly, Dana and her husband also received
a great reception when they entered the reception, but Jane's
performance did too, and Dana didn't expect it.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I mean, heck, even Jane.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Was surprised by the reception she got. She had never
received a standing ovation from a solo act before. But
Dana's mother believes that if Dana had asked someone to
sing who received a similar reception, Dana's jealousy would have
been exactly the same. Someone suggested seeing if Jane would
be interested in speaking to a therapist, given how hurtful
Dana's comments could be for a teen, and Jane said
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she's open to it, so long as it isn't a
counselor at school, because as of now she doesn't want
anyone at school or her studio to know about the incident.
And she vaguely told the coach who helped her choreograph
that it went fine. We will respect her privacy request
as it's her right to control the narrative. Hey, w parents,
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they're doing everything right about this. Also, you know, I
can't believe I whift. I should have suggested gently advising
potentially therapy.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Here I am getting the bride behind clothes. Curtains said
something to the girl, what do you mean behind like, hey,
you shit, you're the worst person ever.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah, so it's like she like, beyond the Facebook post,
there was another interaction.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
That's really gotten to Ope's daughter.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, that you could be right about that using just
in his side. You know, at sixteen, little things can
really really get at you. Yeah, And all it could
take is like a sentence or two that no one
else heard, and all of a sudden you just feel
like you're.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Waking or if you put all your worth and this
is what's rying and this is good, and then someone
doesn't validate that because these are very You need a
lot of validation at this age. Like am I on
the rack track? You need to be checking with a
lot of people on that.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, just imagine she does that whole performance and then
like you know, at the end of it, she's with
the bride and she just lets how to Oh yeah,
you don't think that was maybe a little overdone, a
little trashy, a little bit a little unclassy. I mean
it was great. I love you, but I'm you know, and.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
He shouldn't were wyat you are?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Now she's gonna be like ooh.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Uh exactly anyway.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
But in the same vein, I suggested therapy for Dana
to Dana's mother since her reaction might be a bigger insecurity,
and she said that she'd ask. The other thing someone
suggested was the possibility of Dana's husband or anyone making
an inappropriate comment to Jane during the reception that made
her shut down and not want to see friends or practice.
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Days before Dana's post look at this guy. Knowing exactly,
my husband decided to ask her and Jane said no
when he did. If something happened, perhaps she'd be more
comfortable telling a therapist with time. But on the bright side,
she said she might want to try a different aerial
studio because she doesn't want to answer questions on how
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it went or share a video at her home studio,
So we will help her find somewhere new, as she asked,
We hope she doesn't permanently leave her current studio because
she has friends and coaches who are supportive, and she
performs with that studio's troops at festivals and gigs. But
I personally understand the need to sometimes go somewhere where
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Speaker 1 (30:21):
One thing that I.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I think you might you could wait for therapy, or
you could try to have this conversation. I feel like
it's an important conversation to have as parents with, like,
you know, a child who's at this age right where
they're sort of in between adolescents and adulthood where it's
like not that it's a game, but it's like, you
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don't want this one moment to just shatter the dreams
you're you're not not necessarily I mean, yeah, she kind
of shattered the dream because she's not she's not doing
it anymore, like she got real cold on it. But
it's like now she's like, oh, I don't want to
have to talk about it because you know, because it
makes me feel uncomfortable, it makes me feel bad or
like so I just want to like go somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
And that's like.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
In a way, like that's the situation that has happened.
Is what's now holding the power over you? And you know,
really the focus point of that needs to be that
you crushed it and you had a standing ovation and
one person had a problem with it because of their
own problems had nothing to do with you.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
You crushed it.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
The only thing that had to do with Op's daughter
was that she did so well that it literally made
the bride jealous.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
So it has nothing to do You.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Should continue because you're excellent at it, and don't let
anybody steal your shine. Like that's really what it's all about.
So trying to have that conversation. If she's not receptive
to it, maybe she'll have to have it in therapy.
But I feel like that's a real important conversation to have,
Like don't just fold. It's like, oh, you're uncomfortable, all right,
we'll put you somewhere else, because sometimes you gotta stay
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in the discomfort. That's a fact of life. Sometimes you're
gonna be uncomfortable, and especially if it's something a positive
aspect of her life that you know that's being impacted.
You don't want her to just like sort of fold
in that job, but you don't want to push her
too hard. You know everyone you know, I think that
parents know how to parent their children better than anyone
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because they have all the context. But in general, that's
what I would say. So let's finish the story. She
hasn't said definitely to therapy yet, but if she does,
we will take her. She still wants an extended break
from Ariel in the meantime, but even if or when
she goes back, she said, she may never want to
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perform again and would rather do it leisurely, one of
the reasons she doesn't want to return to her home
studio where she's part of their troop. She asked if
we'd tell her troop coach that she won't perform with
them anymore if it comes to it, and if that's
what she wants down the road, then we will. Another
note here, it's like, if that's what she wants, that's fine,
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but she needs to be the one to say it. Yep, yep,
she needs to be the one to say it. Hopefully,
time heals this wound and helps her at least keep
the friends that she has there. But we can only
hope and that is the end of that story.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I mean I think maybe with some therapy and with
a good conversation, you know, I understand wanting to be like,
I'm not gonna say that they're babying her right now,
right because it's like everyone's different, and if she is
really sensitive, I mean clearly I'm gonna go out on
a limb and say she is very sensitive because this
is clearly impacting her. And who isn't sensitive at sixteen?
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You know?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Oh oh oh, oh, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Talking about the daughter. I'm done with Ariel. I don't
want to go back to here. And it's like, you know,
she's been crushing it there and now this one thing
is just like sending her down. But I think Dana
needs to apologize to Yeah, that's a big thing. Once
that happens and you clear the air, she can probably
come back. But it's gonna take tom.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
It needs to. Yeah, I think if.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I don't know if the daughter was involved in any
of the conversations with Dana's parents when they called and
apologized on her behalf, but I think if she wasn't
definitely have that be a thing she needs to hear
from outside that she did nothing wrong.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
But that is the end of that story. I've seen
in that story, and I refuse to throw a baby
shower party, but my family threw one without me. Anyway,
sounded like you really needed a shower. That must it
must have stunk over there.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Am I the a hole for going no contact with
my family and my husband's family because they had my
baby shower without me. I'm posting because I'm curious what
other people's reactions would be if they were in my situation.
It also seems like I'm the odd one out since
people think I'm crazy or rude or awful insert whatever
bad name possible. By the way, this comes from user
low phrase sixty six eighty five on the r slash
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Okay storytime subrend it. So this situation happened right at
the height of COVID in August of twenty twenty. I
don't want to make this a long post, but I
do think all the information listed below is relevant to
the story.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Bullet points. I love bullet points.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
My husband worked in a hospital with active COVID patients
all of my in laws were high risk for contracting COVID.
At the time, pregnancy didn't make you high risk. We
were still learning about the disease. Now I believe it does.
I'm not sure if I were to have a baby
shower it would be towards the end of my pregnancy,
because that's when I would feel comfortable that the likelihood
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of a miscarriage is lower. Now onto the story. COVID
was pretty rough on all of us At the time.
I had a three year old and I was pregnant
with really really bad nausea as well as aches and
pains that seemed to never end. The nausea didn't even
go away with medications. I did my best to stop
it and just continued life as normal as possible, even
though we were stuck inside and all of our activities
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were no longer happening. My husband, as I mentioned, and
worked in a hospital and he dealt with COVID patients.
Because of this, we were extremely careful. When he came home.
He would remove his clothes and shoes and put them
in garbage bags. He would immediately put them in the
washing machine, bathe in our downstairs bathroom, and then would
come up to see us.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Okay, so he was super extra careful. I mean, yeah,
he was.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I feel like working in a healthcare setting, it's like
you're gonna you're gonna know how to be careful too.
We would sanitize and wear masks when necessary. Basically, we
followed protocols that were told to us at the time.
My in laws, however, had different plans, which they are
entitled to. They didn't quarantine, they didn't socially distanced. They
shared masks and had large gatherings at their house, one
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of which was a wedding in their backyard. I didn't
want to go, but my husband convinced me. We wore masks,
socially distanced and didn't go inside the house. I will
admit I was angry because I was told everyone would
be wearing masks except the bride and groom, but no
one did. I maintained my distance and told myself, I'm
not doing that again. It was very obvious that I
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was trying to stay safe. My husband included it was
very hard to keep a three.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Year old away from the people he loved.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
And I sincerely was doing it for their benefit, knowing
that we were the ones who could contract it since
my husband worked in healthcare and could give it to
his family. One of my sister in laws kept telling
me that she would see us in a few weeks.
I was confused at first, but didn't think much of
it because I was too nauseous and tired and dealing
with my toddler to try to decipher what that meant.
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Got a very understandably yeah. When it came closer to
the date, I had a feeling that she was throwing
me a baby shower. However, I'm not a baby shower
type of girl. I don't mind if other people have them,
I just don't like them for myself.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
I have a friend that's not a birthday kind of guy. Friend.
I was like, Hey, what are you doing for your birthday?
I want to come blah blah blah. I feel like
it's pretty common.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I was like that for a long time. I'm just
now starting to come out of that.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah he is. He invited me to his birthday. Actually
I invited myself to his birthday thing. Wow, I'm glad
that you did to.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
I had a baby shower for my first kid, and
I told my mom and sister in law explicitly that
I am only doing this for you all, and because
it's the first grandchild on both sides. They knew this
before my first baby shower, and they definitely knew this
while planning this one. My husband has since told me
that he told them I wouldn't like it because of
this feeling. I texted my sister in law a few
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days before the date she told me, and I asked
if she was having a baby shower for me. She
said yes. Isn't that great when people plan things you
explicitly don't like?
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Yeah. I told her that I'm not going to be
able to attend. I have very bad nausea as I
have been having especially lately, and I'm tired, and more importantly,
it would be irresponsible of me to have her put
something together like this given the circumstances. We were literally
a town that had just become red, which meant the
numbers were going up pretty severely, and they were warning
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us to remain six feet and whatever else advisory.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
O Oh, yeah, they were in the red.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
I also told her that it's a really nice and
thoughtful gesture, but I wouldn't be able to morally live
with myself if we convened and someone got severely sick,
just because I wanted to party, which again I didn't
and would never as I'm extremely introverted.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
She said okay, and I thought it was done.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
I get a call the next day from my friend
saying that my sister in law called her to say
I'm not coming to my baby shower and that I
my friend probably don't want to go since I wouldn't
be there. The friend was super super cautious and still is,
and was only going to my baby shower to make
me happy. She literally felt like she was risking her life.
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My sister in law told her safety precautions were going
to be in place and that it would be outside.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
So she agreed.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
She called me surprised because she thought it was a
surprise for me, But then my sister in law called
and told her that I knew and that I wasn't coming.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
What is going on there?
Speaker 2 (39:57):
How do you throw a baby shower when the mom.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Is not there? Yeah, they're just it's yeah, It's like
they like they were trying to surprise her.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
They like booked like a really expensive like musical artist,
so they're like, we're still doing it.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Dog is there?
Speaker 2 (40:13):
We already paid Kesha one hundred grand for your baby shower.
You have to come, So I told my friend, Yeah,
I would never do this, and especially during a time
like this, especially knowing who my family is. Unfortunately, literally
no one in my family is healthy. High blood pressure, cancer,
high cholesterol, health issues, asthma, severe allergies, fragile bones, arthritis,
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just to name a few conditions. And this is just
off the top of my head, with the in laws
in my mom's side of the family. My friend and
I hung up, and I thought nothing of it. It's done,
no harm, no foul, right. I literally thought she was
making her calls to whoever she invited. Till this day,
I don't know who, and I just thought it was
over wrong, Oh no, yeah, and then continues it rolls.
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The next day, my older cousin texts me and tells
me that since I didn't show up to the baby
shower and I didn't want the homemade cupcakes, she would
take them back home with her. I said, what, you
were invited, it's happening, how I was shocked.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Since you didn't show up, I'm taking my homemade cupcakes
for myself. Well, you had the baby shower, but I
it's my baby. Yeah, woaho was somebody, cause playing as me.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
That would be pretty awkward. Like okay, I mean, I
guess it could be cool. It's like, oh, y'all were
all celebrating me even though I wasn't there. That's kind
of sweet. But I feel like I feel like they're
not doing it for OP. I feel like they're doing
it for themselves. Oh yeah, of course, So it's like
it's not that really, it's not that sweet.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
No, I couldn't believe that they had my baby shower
quote unquote without me. I felt terrible because she is
another one who literally had not left her house since March,
worked from home, her kids were home from school, her
wife also worked from home. She had her groceries delivered,
the works. Again, another person risking their lives to please me.
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But it wasn't for me, especially knowing that they had
the entire event without me, didn't cancel anything, and didn't
follow any supposed protocols. I was immediately angry, immediately hurt, shocked.
Whatever feeling I likely had it other than happiness. Oh
till this day, I'm still confused as to how anyone
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would think it's okay to have a baby shower when
the mother is in present. Yeah, that's like so common sense.
Thankfully I'm not sad or angry or hurt anymore, but
it's definitely still insane to me.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
It is pretty work.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Yeah, like what I guess they just that family just
loves baby showers, and I.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Would make more sense of it. It was like Op's
first kid, but this is a second kid. Yeah, it's like,
we don't need to do this again.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
And she's literally already explained her position of I did
this for the first kid so that the grandparents could
have this experience, so that, you know whatever, don't really
feel a need to do it again.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
And plus with everything happening in the world at that time, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
In the middle of COVID, at the height of the
beginning of COVID, we didn't really know anything about it,
so it's like extra spooky. My husband immediately went into
defending his family. My cousin told my mom and aunt
that I wasn't happy about what was going on. They
both called and tried to defend themselves. My mom in
particular said quote, I wanted to celebrate my grandchild and
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you can't stop me.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
From doing that. You have your own celebration. Oh, it
sounds like you already did.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Well, yeah, I guess I kinda that makes sense a bit,
but I don't know. It feels like purposefully excluding the
mom is weird where it's like would you want to
at least like how are there on a video call anything?
But it's like the mom is like, I don't want
to do it. So I guess it makes sense that
they wouldn't reach out that hard because they're like, well,
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she already said she doesn't want I don't know. This
is a strange situation.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Yeah, what would you call that? Not baby grand baby shower?
I'm having a baby shower for my grandchild anyway, And
you know what, She's right.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
I can't stop her from doing that, even though I
think it's crazy. But do it at your own party
with your own friends. Why make me aware of it
at all? As though it was for me that that
actually is the clarify that that clarifies why it's weird.
It's because if the grandparents wanted to celebrate the grandchild,
they could have done it within their own unit. But
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it was like, oh, PE's friends that were like quarantining
and isolating, like during this moment went here being like wait,
where's ope like that? That would make me like, what
are we doing?
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Like what it's like?
Speaker 2 (44:48):
What are you trying to flex that you don't care
about like COVID Like to my friends who care about it, that's.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Weird to my husband that works in this field.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah, Anyways, I see this as a major betrayal. My
mom and I have had a very tumultuous relationship. She's
been physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually abusive. My aunt has
defended her, and my other aunts and grandmother think that
she can do no wrong. Oh, Mom's the golden child.
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She's the one who told my sister in law to
still have the party because, according to my mom quote,
I would show up, but my sister in law knew
I wouldn't because I told her. She told my friend
I wasn't going to be there, meaning my sister in
law also knew I wouldn't be there. I gave my
reasoning about COVID being bad at the moment, plus my
other ailments. None of those stipulations had changed from one
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day to the other. My in laws were confused as
to why I was angry, like it was no big
deal that the person who you're literally having the baby
shower for isn't there as though they didn't treat me
like a surrogate before. Here's more evidence. I blocked all
of my in laws. I also blocked my mom and
my aunt and haven't spoken to them. So I wrote
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an email to my sister in law explaining why, with
a long laundry list of things that were pretty similar
to this in the sense that they don't respect me,
my boundaries, my generosity, or my willingness to always go
above and beyond, and basically this is the amount of
respect I get. Yeah, that's clear. I feel like it's
not just this moment, it's all these other things that
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have happened and led up to this moment that was
like the end of the fuse where yeah, I'm done
with you people. Yeah I don't need thank yous. I
just need you to respect me and consider my feelings.
But nope, it's just about what they want and they
wanted the party, so they partied without me. My brother,
who I still speak to, called me a week after
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the event to update.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Me on his life.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
He went to the party, but he didn't know where
he was going. My mom told him to jump in
the car and told him she was going to a party.
My brother didn't ask any questions, which is very typical
of him. As they were driving, she told him that
it was my baby shower, and he immediately was surprised.
He said that this wasn't for my sister because if
you knew her, you'd know she wouldn't want this. My
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mom told him that I knew about it and nothing else. Yeah,
w brother, Yeah, there we go. So you know your
kid knows the sister so well. He's like, you're doing
what a thing? She definitely doesn't want. Yeah, she hates that.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Hmm okay.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
He decided to stay because he was moving out of
the country and this was his last time seeing all
of these people nice at least for a long while.
I still haven't seen him, so yeah, it's been a
long while.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
He said.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
They wanted to take video to send to me, and
every time they would pivot to him, he would ruin it,
according to them by saying this isn't for op.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Again, this fact only further proves that they were aware
and that they saw nothing wrong with what they were
doing after I blocked them. I've gotten many passive aggressive
things done to me. For example, when my son was born.
My husband and kid and new baby all got gifts
from one sister in law congratulating them, not me, just them. Well,
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which is that's targeted for sure.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Another sister in law delivered donuts and coffee for my
husband and toddler with a card saying for all your
hard work, as though they did anything.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
Yeah, they had to deal with you.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Yeah, good job being born kid. I'm sure that was
you know what, low key? That probably is some hard work.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
What being born? Oh yeah, dude, I was didn't get born.
What did you get What do you mean? Did you
get sea sectioned? No, I got sea sectioned. Oh okay,
that's just the old baby. Yeah that's too big. Head
was a big old baby. He said, No, we got
to cut this thing. Did you ten pounds two ounces?
Du dude? My brothers were like twin pounds, like twelve ounces? Yeah,
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I think all three of them. I was young. I
was the littlest. I was eight pounds six ounces. And
that's the littlest that's the littlest. It's crazy. Yeah, but no,
I like had ambillical quarter on my neck. I wasn't
breathing for the first time, and it's apparently there's something
in my mouth and had to get it out. I'm
just gonna make it. You're ready to snack From the
first moment of existence. Yeah, people were like I was
born ready. I was like I was not. I was
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born very confused. I was born about to die.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Uh. During the delivery, they constantly called to see if
the baby was born, but not to see how I
was so much so that my husband wasn't present with me,
and I can't help but think that it was on purpose.
After our baby was born, our doctor advised that no
one see the baby before at least three months, so
we complied. My husband would often FaceTime, and I would
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constantly hear, oh, he has dimples like me, meaning my
sister in law when I literally have two. Any feature
of mine that was very clearly mine, they would try
and attribute it to themselves or some long lost relative of.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Theirs, very very weird, like this is my baby. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
These people inexplicably, I guess the in laws and the
sister mom too.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
Is It's like they got it out for you. Soon
as the system blog, I was like, sign these papers
and you're like, uh, these are adoption papers, Like yeah,
this is my baby. Yeah, clearly, just look at it.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
It looks just like Anyways, when both my kids look
exactly like me, that's a pretty weird thing to say. Literally,
their hair color, texture, the dimples, the face, the smile.
I've been told that we look like twins by others,
but of course it's your uncle's kids kid. Sure. Now,
anytime anyone asks me why I'm not around, I get
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the dirty looks and the comments, the really infuriating comments
of but they're your family are the worst.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
But I just grin and bear it. Anyway, that's my story.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Am I the A hole? I don't think I am,
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check on that, we're gonna coalesce our thoughts here and
finish this story. So I would say, with all the contact,
not the A hole, but without all that, I would
have thought it was pretty extreme to cut all those
people off for having that the baby shower without you,
especially saying after you said that you didn't really care
to have one. So it's like it's kind of harmless
at that point where it's like, well, if they just
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want to do that, I guess they're free to do it. Yeah,
but it was also lame of them to invite your
friends and not tell your friends that you weren't gonna
be there, Yeah, because they just assumed you would pull through.
And I think that goes back to the just lack
of respect, Like they don't Yeah, they got no respect
for you. So it makes perfect sense that you would
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cut those people off, Yeah, after everything else they had
also done beforehand.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
Yeah, for sure, So cut them off. Low contact, low contact.
The brother's great, brother's great, you know, but he's gone now,
so and people can you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
It just seems so systemic through the whole family, Like
all the in laws aren't they don't respect your autonomy,
and like this is also a weird time.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
It's COVID time, very weird time.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
But like, just it does seem like there is quite
a bit of like just a complete lack of respect
for you as an individual who could make their own decisions.
And the baby stuff. Not attributing the baby characteristics to
you is weird. Not giving you a shout out on
the thank you card is just weird. Yeah, so let's
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finish this story. Here's some questions before I ask, Oh boy,
we got more bullet points. The baby shower was in
a home, no venue to cancel or deposit to lose
out on. Everything, to my knowledge was refundable and was
theirs already. My in laws knew the rules as they
were very on top of watching the news twenty four
to seven. My mom and aunt also work in another hospital,
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and although it's not pat care, they had to be
constantly tested and followed the same procedures as the doctors, nurses,
and medical staff. I didn't block anyone or go no
contact solely because of this issue. It was merely the
straw that broke the camel's back. God, I love having
mind melds with OP. I love thinking the same thing
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as OP. It's just like a light switch went off
and I realized the relationships no longer serve me, if
they ever even did in the first place. I've been
in therapy for about five years, twice a week to
get over my crappy childhood.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
And that is the end of that story. Oh, he's
doing a lot of work, this hard work. Op, that's good.
You realize your family's taking advantage of you and not
even giving you props for all the hard work of
doing it. Some of that the therapy might have helped you.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Come to this realization of like, oh, wow, no, this
this is just not certainly whatsoever. Wow, my family sucks,
And I'm very glad that you've realized that and are
moving forward without them in heavy contact with your family.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
That's great. That's the end of that story. He's the
end of that story. My husband cheated on me, so
I left him. We got back together, but I'm still
in love with somebody else whoa a lot going on there.
My twenty three female husband twenty four Mal and I
have been married for three years. We will call my
husband Ben for this story. At the time Ben and
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I had first met, he was on temporary military duty
in my hometown. I was working part time, trying to
make it through college. It felt like a whirlwind romance
being with him in the few weeks he was here,
but he quickly went back to his primary duty station
active duty. Nonetheless, he wanted to make it work, so
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we decided to date through long distance. Shortly after meeting him.
I also decided to join the military active duty and
landed in a technical training for over six months in
twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (54:58):
That's hard long distance military military long dicisce y, That's hard.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
By the way, this comes from Character Maine eighty seven
twelve on the r slash Okay story Times Up read it.
So when it came time to put my dream sheet
of duty stations together almost a year later, I decided
to put my number one, as Ben's current duty station
said they could be together. I was lucky to get it,
but as I finished technical training for my military job,
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I found out he cheated on me.
Speaker 3 (55:28):
Oh, gonna be in the Aria.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
This ended up being three weeks before I was supposed
to move there. Oh. I had a good feeling, but
I was crushed. Ben and I had been dating on
and off for the last year and a half. At
that point in twenty twenty one, I felt like I
had wasted my time and now I was headed directly
to where he was stationed. Truthfully, it was my worst
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nightmare and I hadn't gone to gotten to the best part.
With this new information, I had already scheduled leave for
this to go back home for a couple of weeks.
I ended up meeting a guy who will call Jake
twenty six mel since I wasn't dating Ben anymore.
Speaker 3 (56:09):
Okay, so they he cheated on her, she breaks out
with them, and then she goes back home for a
little bit. Yep, and Jake comes into Jake is in
the picture. Now, Jake's in the picture.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
This guy was funny, sweet, attentive. We had quite a
bit in common when it came to everything else. It
wasn't just our lust or chemistry with him. It felt
natural for me. I practically spent my entire two weeks
with him, even though I was just sat down on
the road from my family. At this point, Ben and
I hadn't been back together for a few weeks, and
I didn't think about him at all. He was completely
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off my mind. Although I wasn't staying in the area,
Jake wanted to keep talking to me. Funnily enough, he
was also on active duty in the same branch as
Been and me, So I left at the end of
my leave and we continued. So she's back with She's
back with Ben or no, she's back with Jake. She's
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kind it seems like she's like maybe with Jake. A
little bit after I arrived at Ben's duty station, Jake
and I were facetiming every night. He ended up going
to a deployment in New Jersey not long after, so
I took the time I could with him. He actually
talked to a few of his friends about me and
suggested dating. He had told me people get married all
the time in the military after doing long distance, so
we could make it work and it was sweet, But
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with Ben being in the same town, I decided to
cut things off. I wasn't feeling resolved about my relationship
with Ben or my feelings towards him. Jake had been
had been cheated on before, and after just being cheated
on myself, I decided to be brutally honest with him
about how I felt. Jake and I had officially cut
contact at that point, and he respected my boundary.
Speaker 3 (57:45):
So Jake and op have cut contact, Yes, yeah, so okay,
So what it seems like Opie and Jake started seeing
each other. He left, and then she was already going
to be stationed at Ben Ben's place, and then she
He's like, Okay, well, I'm gonna be kind of around him.
That's a little complicated. I don't really want to have
to think about another relationship while I'm still addressing my
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feelings about this, Okay, which is fair. I think that
you know, if you're not ready to be in another relationship,
if you're still like dealing with the feelings for the
last one, don't move on.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
Yeah, okay. Truthfully, I had deep feelings for Jake, but
I didn't want to risk hurting him either. In almost
the same week, I ultimately ended up finding out Ben
cheated on me with our friend's sister, Sarah, and I
didn't know at the time, but in short, he cheated
on me with this girl. I broke it off, he
started dating her, and then she did on her with me.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
No, Ben sucks, then keep it in your pants.
Speaker 3 (58:43):
Oh my god, go back and find Jake. Go get Jake.
Oh pee, go get Jake.
Speaker 1 (58:48):
Apologizing and say, go get him.
Speaker 3 (58:50):
Drop Ben, get Jake.
Speaker 1 (58:52):
Oh say the lace. Neither of us knew, but she
never found out. I also discovered there were a few
other times he cheated on me before this, so this
unfortunately didn't end up being the first time. Regardless, I
felt guilty. I didn't know they were dating at all.
I figured she was just a fling. What's crazier is
that after he cut ties with Sarah, I found out
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I was pregnant. A couple of months later, she's pregnant. Now.
This happened at the same time he got military orders
to a new duty station.
Speaker 3 (59:24):
Oh this is so tough. Oh my god. So he's
leaving again to a different place. This is a ye yay.
Speaker 1 (59:33):
From there, we had a quick wedding so we could
get joint military spousal Yeah, they together, and we would
have been together ever since. But I do love Ben,
and I'm trying every day to make it work. But
that's not to say I am getting over this whole
situation didn't take time or was easy. At the moment.
I'm not sure I'm in love with him anymore. Our
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relationship has been dragging since the start of the second
year of our marriage, and I feel like we've had
nothing more or in common. On the other hand, I've honestly, look,
I feel like been still cheating on her.
Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
I'm really worried about that because we know that Ben
cheated on her and then cheated on the girl that
he cheated on her reth with Art, So it's like
a whole circle of cheating. There's so much and she's
not in love with him anymore. So I really feel
like this relationship is not I mean, it's not good
for you to continue if you're not Obviously a kid
makes it complicated, but if you're not in love with
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you him, you're not happy.
Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Because, like I feel like in a relationship, once you
get married, you do have those you might have those
points where like I don't feel like I love this person.
Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
I think you can talk to him about it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
You have to work through them. And I don't think
you can work through this because he's moved on and
like cheating on you left and right.
Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Yeah, no, I think it's either you can try and
go to therapy and have that conversation with him, But otherwise,
is it, you know, is it worth it to be
in this relationship with him when he's like you know,
cheating is cheated a lot on multiple people. And yeah,
Jake seems seems looks looking pretty good.
Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Jake's looking like a great options. On the other hand,
all I have is continuously think about Jake over the
last few years. I'm sure he's forgotten about me, as
I was probably just the blip in his life. And
I assume he's probably been over me for a while,
but don't get over us because we go live every
weekday at three pm PSD just to have her profile
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for me. Though I can't get him out of my mind.
It's been like a broken record that keeps replaying all
the time. I'm married Ben and we share a child,
so I stay to try to make it work. He
hasn't cheated on me since Sarah, and our relationship has
been pleasant.
Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Otherwise, Okay, you don't want it to be pleasant. Pleasant
is just like man, it's fine, it's good. I guess
you wanted to be like great.
Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
You wanted to be awesome. You would be not perfect,
but yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
But like exciting and brings you joy.
Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Yeah. Now. Through twenty twenty four, Ben and I moved
back to our hometown to be close to a two family,
and I found out Jake is still stationed here, but
ended up landing a decent drop at his current duty station,
working in the same occupation. It wasn't deliberated, but I
was about to fall flat on my face from military
contract that had ended and no other job offer paid
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as much as this position. While I have no intention
of reaching out to Jake for respect for my marriage
and commitments to Ben's starting to gnaw at me. I've
been telling myself since twenty twenty one that this would
go away as these feelings I still have for Jake
or temporary. But here we are years later. I guess
I'm still looking for options on this mess. How could
I handle still being in love with a man I
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met three years ago after my husband then boyfriend cheated
on me And I don't know how to get rid
of these feelings and have been shameful slash guilty about it.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
Yeah, I think my advice is to end this relationship. Yeah,
it's stagnant.
Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
It's stagnant. It's prob you guys have a lot of
stuff to work through. If it seems like you were
putting a lot of work in right now, yeah, and
Ben is not.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
But also I think that it's still good like just
because you you know, you put in all this work
and you you know, work together to try and get
over the cheating and stuff. That's still good in terms
of co parenting because it means that you're not gonna
like scream in each other as long as you're still
like friendly. That's still a positive for the future, but
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it doesn't mean that you have to stay with him.
Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Also, I don't even think if you if you do
end up leaving, don't You don't have to go with Jake,
but you can find It just means that you can
find someone out there who's gonna be a better fit
for you.
Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Yeah. Yeah, mmmm, that's tough.
Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
But that is the end of that story. But thank
you for watching. My girlfriend prioritizes her late boyfriend's family
over me, I'm leaving her.
Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Dang, this is like the completely opposite of what we
just read.
Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
My girlfriend's last boyfriend died in a car crash some
years ago. My girlfriend told me about this when we
became official. Now, she's still close to her dead boyfriend's
mom and dad, and she wants to introduce me to them.
Could not, could go, could go a little bit awry. Yeah,
I thought it would be awkward, but I decided to
go along with it. After all, she mentioned that she
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considers them just like her own parents. By the way,
this comes from Throwaway HDA DJ sixty five eighty two
on the Best Predator Updates subburd It. We've visited them
a few times and the dad made comments. One time,
the dad talks about how manly his son was, how
he used to work on cars. You could always tell
he was a real man because his hands were always dirty.
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Wash your hands.
Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
I worked eighteen half and hours on a roof today.
Day I worked forty eight hours in the minds, and
you're over here talking on a politic case. This is
real man's work.
Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
Is real life?
Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Is that a real life cover? Kind of? Kind of?
Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
He asked me what I did for work, and I
work it as an accountant. He said, yeah, I can
tell it was something like that. Your hands haven't seen
any real work.
Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Oh yeah, because all my hands see are green from
all the money that I'm working with.
Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
It's been like this every time we visit them. He
mentions how great his son is. That something and asks
me something, then says how unmadly I am. I would
talk to my fiance or wife.
Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Yeah, girlfriend, boyfriend, Oh, that would be so funny. If
it was a boyfriend, I would talk.
Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
To You're not madly enough. I would talk to the
girlfriend and be like, hey, your late husband's family. Its
kind of being really mean to me. Oh, it's comparison.
Comparison that's the thief of joy. But I told my
girlfriend about it, but she says I'm just being insecure.
That's a red flag on her part and I shouldn't
feel threatened by it. I told her I don't want
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to visit them anymore, and we got into a pretty
big fight. She said that that maybe the dad is
right and I need to be more manly.
Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
But I think you should leave this AKA up.
Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Yeah, no, definitely break up. This is the fact that
not only is she allowing the dad to say this,
but it's also kind of reinforcing it or like agreeing
with it. Op's comment Commoner says, I know you must
miss your son a lot. He sounds like a great guy,
but please stop insulting me using him. Neither you or
my girlfriend will remember him any less with me here,
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and Op says, I can already hear him say that's
some crap. He doesn't seem like a sensible guy. Update.
I broke up with her.
Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Okay, all right, quick, quick and easy. B r E
k you.
Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
B r E A ak u p.
Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
B r e A K up. You should break up
with hur Op who.
Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Was a girlfriend? Wow?
Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Update I broke up about after talking to some friends
and reading some of your comments, I realized that this
kind of behavior from both the dad and my girlfriend
was unacceptable. I didn't say anything to the dad because
who cares why I am since I haven't had a
chance to see him since the last time. Anyways, I
think I gave them slack due to the tragedy of
what happened. But I think I gave them way too much.
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As harsh as as sounds, I am so relieved I
won't ever have to hear about her dead boyfriend ever again.
I feel great tbh, and you guys can feel great
too by joining us live every weekday at three pm PST.
Just tab her profile relevan comments. Commenter says, good job
they were taking out their grief and sorrow onto you,
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trashing you as compared to her ex. No one should
willingly put themselves through that. What was her reaction? Did
you cite the comments about her ex as the main reason?
Op says I did. I told her I was tired
of her father in law quote unquote talking to me
that way and her taking his side. She didn't apologize
or anything. She said I was overreacting, and we talk
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about this. I told her I had already tried. She
told me that I should just leave then, and I did. Ope, claifyes.
I'll be honest, I don't feel bad. As soon as
I got home after breaking up, I realized that I
won't ever have to deal with father in law. But
not only that, I don't have to ever see the
dead boyfriend's face or even hear his name ever again.
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It may be harsh, but I'm not agonizing over it
or anything. If anything, I'm relieved.
Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
I will say having a family going. I know this
is a late boyfriend, but being around a family that
your significant other likes is game changing. I used to
be around a family that they didn't like me do
my self esteem, but now.
Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
I need my boyfriend's family to like me.
Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
So he's been around them, I've met his mom. Got
to go well, okay, one left.
Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
I mean I got it. I got a chocolate from Paris.
She loved it. She said, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Oh wow. Look at that smile, dude. Every time she
talks about the boyfriend, she gets smiley like this and everything.
It's it's crazy. My boyfriend put his best friend before me.
Is our relationship over?
Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
It depends depends, It depends on the best friend and
your relationship who I don't know, well.
Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Find I don't know. I twenty female, am from Brazil
and here it is a tradition that in a birthday party,
the person whose birthday is being celebrated is the first
slice of their cake their favorite person after everyone sings
the birthday song. I've seen this on social media. It
is so cute. By the way, this comes from sorry
header on the r slash storytime on the Okay storytime subreddit.
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Go check it out. Put your stories there. I know
I butchered that username. This week was my boyfriend's twenty
four mal and he had three celebration my boy friends
birthday Yeah, one with his birth family, one with his
adopted family, and one with friends which was a s
ice picnic that I planned and organized. Cute. He had
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a very difficult life and his moms are really important
to him, as the adoptive mom saved him from starving
as a kid and raised him on my giving him
a chance at live. And this birth mom battled very
hard against poverty at her life, struggling and fighting to
keep her kids alive and well. So, of course I
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never expect him to give me the first slice of
cake at the family celebrations. I see you, I see you.
Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
So she's like, probably gotta give it to his birth mom. Yeah,
like that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
But then there was the picnic. I spent weeks planning
and reaching out to all his childhood friends, making sure
they would come. I went to bed at two am
the night before making him his favorite cake. I spent
a shiz ton of money with food, drinks, and gifts.
I did not do it because of the first slice,
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of course, but all times I couldn't help. But the thing,
now it's my turn.
Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
Okay, so it bes like I didn't. I planned this
whole thing for his birthday, but I didn't do it
just to get that first flight, the first slice that
says I'm the favorite. But is waiting to get that slice.
She's like, I want to be the first lie. I
want to be someone's first plaice.
Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
Oh, that'd be so cute. Turns out it was not.
He has a best friend of many years and she
and him are like brother and sister. They went through
a lot of crap together, like her losing her mom,
him not having food to eat at home as a teen,
and even though they are close, they don't get the
chance to see each other very often as of now.
They both are very busy with life and all this shit.
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So of course he took the chance to show her
some appreciation. She was so happy, And of course I
understood this situation. He sees me every day and has
the chance to honor me almost daily, and he always
makes me feel really loved and on and he can't
do that with her. Also, I understand, and he wanted
to show her that him having a relationship does not
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mean she is not his sister anymore a priority in
that sense. I'm not jealous because I know there is
nothing romantic between them. She's pretty gay, and she's pretty gay.
She's pretty gay and polyannamorous, polygamous polygamus, and he is
most nomous monogamous man in the world, and he worships.
Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
Me, worships I just let it upside.
Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Oh okay, she said, right, like what worship? Just go
ahead and read the roost. I couldn't help, but at
least feel a bit. I don't know, just do I
need to explain? Maybe disappointed, maybe unappreciated. I feel like
I can never be the most important person in the room.
We always talk about getting married. We are each other's
life and still get me. Also, he did this in
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front of everyone, in front of all our mutual friends
who really don't know her and all she means to him.
So I guess I felt kind of embarrassed. Am I
just viencing? I want to go home and cry a bit.
I know I'm being childish, but I guess I will
keep it that way for now. We have an update
six hours later.
Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
Okay, let's put a poll up. Well, OPI hasn't done anything,
OPI has not done anything. I think this is I
think sometimes I mean like, as long as she doesn't
take it out on her, I don't think her boyfriend
has done anything wrong. And you know, because especially because
we know why he gave the slice to the friend
and was trying to show some appreciation for all that
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hard stuff they went through, which OP recognizes. I think
sometimes we get jealous. And as long as she's not
taking this out on her boyfriend, I don't think she's
done anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
Right now, miss jay Bird, he already shows you who
cares who gets a niece of cake?
Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Yeah, I think right now is what she needs to hear,
is that. Yeah, this is like it's totally. You know,
it's normal to feel little bit jealous sometimes as long
as you're not taking it out on other people and
you're realizing that he loves you. And but sometimes we
have those thoughts in our head that are like unreasonable,
and we know they're unreasonable, and we just kind of
have to we have to shut them up. Yeah, so
I don't think she's the a hole yet.
Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
A lot of a lot of like those bad thoughts
are coming up.
Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
Yeah, Sometimes you have those interested thoughts that are like, ah,
why didn't he pick you? It's like, okay, well we
know why, but sometimes it's hard to tell her, you know. Yeah,
convince ourselves with that.
Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
September eighth, six hours later, Hi everyone, thank you for
all the kind of comments. Me and my boyfriend have
different energy spams, so I usually leave hangouts a lot
earlier than him. Are you laughing at me or opie? OPI?
Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
Okay, good, Yeah, I read the energy spams.
Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
I read that, yeah, which is what happened today. So
I love posted the story and read it and took
a shower and started to paint my nose. About three
hours later, after I left, my boyfriend calls me and
I pick up and he is sobbing. Notice he does
not have read it and he does not speak English,
so he did not know about the posts, and I
had not talked about my feelings with him yet. So
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he calls me absolutely pooring saying he was going home
and he he has had the best day of his
life and he loves me so much for doing this
for him. And he spends the next fifteen minutes talking
between sobs about all the effort I put into the
birthday celebration and thanking me for every single one of
those things I did.
Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
Oh, they're so sweet.
Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
You mentioned the cake slice and said that. He said
to me that throughout his entire life, because he has
had birthdays in his mom's house, he had never given
a first slice to his best friend who went through
all that with him, and that me being empathetic enough
not to let him do this was honestly one of
the most special things I had ever done for him.
Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
This is so sweet. I'm glad that Ophe didn't say
anything me too.
Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
He told me she had begun going through some very
important stuff and he was not around ever because of
work in college, and she was feeling very left behind
because of this. Which is a huge thing since they're
basically brother and sister. So the cake made her cry
so much. It was the first time he had ever
done this, and she finally felt like he had not
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forgotten about her. Oh that's super set.
Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
This is so sweet. This is really sweet.
Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Is this a nice one you picked home? Yeah? Okay,
I wasn't too sure. Oh this is so weird, really sweet.
And then because I made that much effort for him,
he asked me to rest. He told me that his
next week was going to be entirely for him show
me appreciation. He asked me to go please for once,
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not to sav jarge him showing me love and pampering
me because I feel like I don't deserve it. Because
he was going to take his savings to take me
out and spend the week giving me celebrations. Oh my gosh,
I know him well enough to be to accept some
love notes him showing up to surprise me at my place,
maybe even a song written for me. He also invited
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me to spend the weekend at his place, just the
two of us. He lives with his family and they
all are going to the beach, leaving the house empty
so he can cook me dinner and give me one
of his one hour full body massages. They are my favorites.
Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
What an incredibly green flag that this man, preemptively without
even her talking to him, knew that this might be
like something that she would care about, like oh, p
caring about who gets that first slice, and was like,
you know what, I just want to let you know,
I really appreciate that you were totally okay with you know,
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or let me give that piece to my best friend
and I'm gonna spend the week after my birthday about you.
Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
That's so sweet, Oh my goodness. Then after he said
all that, I took the opportunity to tell him how
I felt today. He listened quietly, and when I was finished,
he apologized, saying that he did not realize that was
how I felt and that was not his intention, and
he just thought that it did not mean as much
to me as it would omit for his best friend.
Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
This is I love it communication communication, hundred percent. Weedy
baby little man.
Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
So he decided to honor her and that way then
honor me differently with my princess week. But he told
me he understood how I feel and that he was
sorry anyways. But We talked a bit more after, but
we got over the stuff pretty quickly and it all
ended with us gossiping about the day because gossip. Two
of our friends of ours, who don't really get along
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very well, apparently went back home after half drunk after
and I left m man. I love gossip. Well, if
you love gossip, you should join us every weekday on
YouTube at three PMPSD. Just tap our profile.
Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
That was great.
Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
That was a really given thank you, that worked really
hard at that has felt it, just felt it, just
had it. This is adorable. Thank you, Sophia. I know.
Oh we saw have more well friends. I suppose that's
my update. Maybe this is the day Reddit realizes that
emotions are too complicated. Life is too which is why
small moments do not define a relationship or someone's feelings.
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How we react to the situation and deal with it does.
I love my boyfriend and he loves me a lot too,
and that does not mean he does not have any
fond family beyond me. That also does not I am
not allowed to feel sad. I have the right to
feel the way that I felt, and to be welcome
in that feeling being validated. I will marry this man
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mark my words. That is very sweet. That is so
super sweet. Green flags. All I see is green in
the chaplets. Put some greens.
Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
Put them in the everyone gets the.
Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
Good story. Thank you, Sophie. I was gonna have to
like be sad for them.