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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
My roommate is a liar, so I broke his laptop. Cheeter, Pumpkin, Peter,
get your laptop freaking broken for context, as I know
you love context. He's not my roommate any longer, but
still works with my fiance. I twenty one live in
a town home with my three roommates and a fiance.
In July to August of twenty twenty four, a friend

(00:29):
my fiance made at his job began to come over
a lot. Let's call him Randy. By the way, this
comes from Tight Question seventy eighty one and if you
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Storytime severed it so he would go fishing and kayaking
with my fiance and sometimes have cookouts with me and him,
and even stayed on our couch overnight. Randy and my
fiance came up to me one night to discuss something important.

(00:53):
It was Randy wanting to know if he could crash
out on our couch for a few months and pay
rent so he could get back on his feet. After
getting some context, he was living in a motel with
another previous friend ex coworker, and this friend never paid
the fees or anything and locked Randy out of the place,
even making him sleep on the floor slash couch of
the motel. If I'm being honest, I'm a very empathetic person,

(01:15):
So I told him as long as he cleaned up
after himself and did a chore like everyone else, I
didn't mind. I regret this decision to this day. I mean,
it's really a toss up with roommates in general, but
then to also let someone stay in your house who
isn't necessarily paying rent, right, So risk so risky. Fast

(01:36):
forward to a month and too him staying with all
of us, and issues began to flow in.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
I'm not a.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Doctor or anything, but he was a classic narcist. He
never felt the need to do chores because, out of
everyone in the apartment, he worked the hardest job. For context,
he's a mechanic, but so is my fiance. My other roommate,
let's call her Lily, is a cook at a very
busy diner. My other roommates have gas station jobs, but
they are not easy by any means. He always sextualized Lily,

(02:04):
who he mentioned one of the first times he came over.
She was cute, but we told him she's good. He
never dropped this. Lily is very eccentric and hyper. She
has no filter and does as she pleases. She's always
walking around and barely any clothes, and we all don't care.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
It's just how she is.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
It bothers, no one, especially not Randy. However, there were
a few times she would say don't look, and he
would instantly look. Okay, To be fair, I'd be like,
all he goes, don't look. You go like, that's true.
I guess it depends on like cause I guess there
is that kind of like don't look, what right? But
I feel like it's like don't look and he's like

(02:41):
where yeah, or like don't look? Goes whoa, oh god
right yeah? And even times he would just lustfully look
at her, and when we made jokes about it, he
would shut down and call her ugly. O my god,
why is he here? Why is he here? He constant Yeah,

(03:02):
he constantly made nasty jokes about trans people and even women.
Why is your friends with him. I mean, your fiance
friends with him because this seems like a terrible person.
Why are we friends with this person? He made comments
about the loudness and me and my fiances schmecksy times
and wanting it to be louder. Ew He was a
creep in multiple ways, and it was not Lily's fault

(03:25):
for what she wore. Randy also menaced my cats. Yes,
and I knew this because we had cameras in our
kitchen and I was checking them for some other reason
relating to dirty dishes and saw the clip of them
chasing my cat and scaring the heck out of him twice.
My cat is okay, by the way, but I was pissed.
Randy always won upped everyone when trauma dumping, saying he
had it worse. It didn't matter if we weren't even

(03:46):
talking about trauma. Somehow what he was going through was
worse or he was better and knew better and was smarter.
This went on every single day for months, three to
be exact, before all heck broke loose. Now for how
I got to the point of briking his laptop, Honestly,
I would have broken his laptop like months ago lots
of different months ago. Yeah, he seems just like a

(04:07):
terrible person, Like, how wi is he here? The end
of September came and we noticed Randy acting a bit
more irritated and spacing himself from us all more and more.
One night, when my fiance went downstairs to make himself
some water, he got tapped by Randy to talk. This
is the beginning of the end. How my fiance related
to me was that Randy wanted to go back to

(04:28):
who he was living in the hotel with prior because
he was not gonna make it another week without his help.
He also told him a week prior he had already
planned this, but didn't think to tell us, and then
told my fiance to not tell any of us roommates
or even me. Of course, my wonderful fiance told me
first thing next morning. Of course I told my roommates
because what so all of us collectively panicked because it's

(04:49):
the end of the month and we have so many
bills due, and we all plan for them to be
five ways I stay at home, not four ways. If
he leaves, Lilly calls a group meeting, but that and
Randy has gone all day paintballing, so we waited all
day for him to come home. He left at eleven
am and came back at ten pm. Bro Anyway, he
immediately fell asleep on the couch and I told my fiance.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Heck no, and I woke his butt up. All of us.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Congregated in the living room as he was barely awake,
and Lily began the conversation. He begged to postpone the
conversation until the next day because he had a terrible
headache too bad. Shouldn't have got paintballing? Then that's your
fall man. We said, no, duh. Lily began to tell
him we found out about him leaving and needed to
discuss it and find out what's happening because it affects

(05:35):
everyone's lives. Well, long story short, He says he agreed
with our perspectives and wouldn't move back in with him. No. Wait,
I think it should be like you have to stay
for the month and then leave, yeah, or like you
have to pay, Yeah, you have.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
To pay and then leave.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Please? Why did you convince him into staying? Yeah? Like,
I know you wanted to the money, but that should
have been a separate thing. It should have been like
leave but also beas.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Hit the money get out.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
We all collectively sighed in relief and went along with
our lives until a day later. The next day, he
came home from work and he started grabbing a bunch
of his stuff, like overnight stuff, and saying he was
going to stay with his dad, which me and my
roommate Lily kind of figured wasn't true because he had
claimed he did not have a good relationship with his
dad at all and they never talked, so we were

(06:21):
all weirded out. He never came back to live with
us again. He did come back to get his stuff
because he moved back with the friend. Yes, he lied
and swindled us, gave us the most bull honkey temporary peace.
We told him over text that he had one day
to come get all of his stuff, and one day only,
and he couldn't make multiple trips as he didn't have
much of anything to be honest. He came a couple

(06:42):
days later at a really late time to grab his things,
and he snuck into the apartment, trying to be quiet
and not turning on lights and peeking his head around corners.
Little did he know we were all waiting for him.
They're all like sitting in the dark and like, oh, Randy,
thank you, thank you for joining us. Rand Lily and
my fiance and even my other roommates laid into him.

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He was avoiding it the whole time and grabbing his things,
and he went in and out a few times. As
he walked out the final time, Lily asked him if
he had everything, because he wouldn't be allowed back ever
again and we wouldn't give him anything if he left it.
He said, I'm shutting the door, ain't I and slammed
the door closed and left.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Well.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Me and Lily noticed a laptop an xbox on top
of our trash can. Like an hour later, ooh, looky mistake.
Oh about to lose your laptop? She and my other roommate,
we'll call him. James opens the laptop to see if
it was working, and it wasn't. It was very destroyed
and it wouldn't turn on. It literally looked like it

(07:45):
had been run through a blender. So Lily, James, and
I collectively, out of anger, agreed we would smash it
on our back patio, and we did and it felt amazing.
Then a couple hours later, Randy texted my fiance asking
for the exact laptop back, even though he knew he
wasn't going to be able to get anything back. He
claimed that the laptop had a bunch of important crap

(08:06):
on it even though it didn't work, and that it
was his whole life. In my opinion, if something is
your whole life, you're gonna make sure it's the first
thing that you take out of an apartment of people
you screwed over. It's been a few months since this,
and even though he claimed on his deceased mom he
would pay us even after knowing we broke the laptop,
he never did.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
He didn't give us a.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Dime and completely screwed us over and even run up
our electric Wi Fi and gas so much that when
he left it went down over one hundred dollars. That's wow,
a huge, huge decrease. Wow. I needed to impress that
the laptop was only destroyed because we couldn't even work
it or turn it on, and it was already so
badly butchered. We wouldn't have done that if it was

(08:46):
a normal working laptop. So am I the ahole, but
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Speaker 3 (09:02):
But there is a little bit left. There's a edit.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
But what do you say, is PDA hole? I think not.
I think not the a hole. I think he left
it there. It didn't work exactly. Are broken? He seems
like a terrible person.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Yeah, they said you forget stuff, You're not gonna get
it back.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, that's I'm in a court of law. Yeah, absolutely,
he can't fight that. But there is an edit, let's
see it. I'm getting a few people who do not
seem to understand why I stay at home, especially at
my age of twenty one. I have pots. I also
have elders Down syndrome, and on top of that, I
have a bunch of other vascular, muscular, and other physical
issues as well as that I am autistic. So because

(09:41):
of that, I stay home and the finances, most of
the cleaning when I can, and everything else.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Here.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I'm getting a lot of people asking why I didn't
just leave it on the doorstep or put it in
a bag on the porch or something. Because if someone
abuses my animals and my roommates and me and my fiance.
I'm not letting them come back to the apartment after
I gave them an alloted time to get their stuff.
My question is, did you keep the Xbox? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Because it was why Yeah, don't let that go Toway. Yeah,
that's probably still I'm gonna I'm gonna hope that's what happens. Yeah,
it probably still works. And then they play fun games,
play funny celebration of him eating.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, but that is the end of that story, so
we're going to get into the next one.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
I told my housemates keep her advice to herself, and
she got offended.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Well, maybe she should keep that to herself too.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
I twenty seven female, have a strange living situation. I
live with a family Chris sixty five male, Danielle fifty
nine male, and their daughter and I do household chores
in exchange for rent. I've lived here for nineteen months.
It's mostly smooth sailing. I work full time in applying
to law school. By the way, this comes from Empress
of the Bakai and if you want to submit your
own stories.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Go to the r slash Okay storytime Supreddit. Danielle has
some issues with boundaries.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
She doesn't understand why she can't enter my room without permission,
for example, and I know it's both due to age
differences and the fact that they allow me to live
in their house for free. I have to be very
careful when enforcing boundaries. Yesterday I made dinner for everyone
after a full day of chores. Around ten PM, as
I was finishing the dishes, Danielle told me I needed
to steam clean the carpet in the living room because
the cats had peed all over it. I did, and

(11:17):
as I was putting the steam cleaner away, Danielle entered
and she said that she wanted me to do another
room because it was ten thirty at this point and
I still wanted to work on an application before bed.
I politely but firmly said I'm not going to do that.
I probably should have said I'll do it tomorrow, but
I was exhausted, so I just said no. I put
the machine away, submitted my application, and went to bed. Tonight,

(11:37):
as I was finishing up my meal prep for the week,
Danielle cornered me in the kitchen. I don't want to
fight about this, she said, but I wanted to mention
something last night when you told me that you weren't
going to clean the at the room, I found it rude.
You should be careful when you say things like that
at work so that you don't get fired. I was floored.
I snapped, Danielle, you haven't had a job since before

(11:58):
I was born.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
You don't get to give me advice about how to
act in the workplace.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Danielle rolled her eyes and huffed, See I didn't want
to fight about this, and walked out of the room.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
I called after her, then, maybe don't bring it up.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
But Danielle hasn't spoken me since, and I don't know
what's coming. For context, Danielle has only had one job
in her whole life, from age twenty two to age
twenty five. After that she quit to raise kids. I
grew up very poor. I have been working since I
was fourteen and supporting myself since I turned eighteen. They
offered to start our arrangement in twenty twenty three because
they needed help around the house and I was struggling financially.

(12:33):
As for Danielle's work advice, I currently work as a
regional manager at a small firm. Not only as her
advice outdated, but I can't take it.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I'm a people manager.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
A lot of my day to day job involves being
polite and unyielding. I think she was frustrated by my
setting a boundary, and that's why she brought it up.
I know part of my frustration is that I feel powerless.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
To protest most of the time.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
I will be moving out in August of this year
when I go to law school, hopefully, and my goal
is to make it until then. I'm also really frustrated
that Danielle felt like she could say whatever she wanted
and then walk away, as if I had no.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Right to feel anything. Am I the a hole for
what I said?

Speaker 4 (13:11):
There are some comments commenter does info do you have
a rental agreement?

Speaker 3 (13:16):
In writing work, exchange.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Needs to be clearly defined, including but not limited to, ours, availability,
no contact, places, times, tasks, et cetera. Someone who's demanding
you to steam clean two rooms at ten thirty PM
is highly suspect. Chores is too often seen as women's
work aka undervalued and unpaid invisible labor. However, invisible labor

(13:39):
done by women is incredibly expensive, both in cost and
time AKA you may well be doing more than would.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Cover the cost of your rent.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Also, I'm inferring from your posts that you're most likely
downplaying their request, and OP responds there's no agreement in writing.
I have tried to bring this up on previous occasions
because of Danielle's difficulty with boundaries and the sheer amount
of work that I do, but it is not Tiken' well.
Danielle and Chris are very insistent that I am not
their tenant and that they are not my landlords. I

(14:09):
am their guest. Danielle is also very insistent that she
does not want to be called my boss or supervisor
in any capacity. To answer other comments here as well,
my current position does not pay enough for me to
live on my own. I realize that the situation is
probably predatory, but because there are only eight months left
of this I plan to just stick it out. It
has saved me a lot of money, and I'm thankful

(14:31):
for that. Top commenter says you're the a hole, not
for saying no, but for how you said it. You
were not polite. Also, Danielle is not your housemate. She
and her husband are your landlords and bosses. But you
may not be paying rent, but you are paying by
being live in help so when you told Danielle, I
won't be doing that instead of I'll do it tomorrow, you.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Were rude to your boss.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Also, her advice wasn't outdated. If you spoke to your
supervisor at your job that way, there would definitely be
a follow up conversation about your choice of words. Opie says,
Danielle and Chris are very insistent that I am not
their employee or a tenant, and that they are not
my boss's or landlords. I am their guest and they
are doing this.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Out of the goodness of their hearts.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
Commenter response definitely not the a hole and good for you.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
May I ask how you came to live with this
family though? Are they related?

Speaker 4 (15:22):
Why are you bothering with all this weird a crap
and her bossing you around? Opie says, they're actually my
best friend's parents. He suggested the arrangement because he knew
that I needed help. When I moved in, I was
a teacher and struggling to afford a studio apartment. Since
I moved in, I changed careers and decided that I
wanted to pursue law school. I took the l SAT

(15:43):
three times last year. On top of all of this,
I can count on one hand the number of times
I've refused a request. I've bleached the showers after midnight,
rose at five am to make requested meals before work,
and other things.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Like that without protesting.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
I see this as an opportunity to make my life
better the long term while surviving short term. I just
wanted to say no this time because truthfully, I physically
couldn't handle fulfilling the request. Danielle was insistent it had
to be done immediately because they wanted to go to
bed at eleven PM, but I just couldn't do it.
OPI is voted You're the a hole, and there is

(16:18):
a many updates in the comments.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
This is interesting day, But yeah, are I'm really conflicted
because I am surprised that OPI was voted the a hole, right,
because I feel like I have kind of like On
the one hand, I think that unfortunately, when you're living
rent free with someone, you do have to kind of
go by their rules, even if they're like not necessarily fair,

(16:42):
because they're, you know, you're living for you. So I
do think like Ope's response was kind of rude, but
it does seem like based off of those comments, like
Opie was doing a lot of work, and yeah, it
does seem like a little bit unfair at times, especially
like doing at midnight or something. Yeah. Yeah, I guess

(17:03):
it just depends on how he's trying to set these boundaries, right, Yeah, ton.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Is yeah said very important.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
But what's throwing me though, too, is like in that
original comment from Danielle, she said, like, make sure to
not talk to your future employers. Yeah, as if she
was an employer as well. Yeah, she's speaking to Danielle
this way.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
But is also like, oh, no, we're not your employers. Yeah,
So it's like kind of a weird dynamic there.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Yeah. I was voted the a hole, which I understand.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
What I do adds up to about two thousand dollars
per month if you go by the standard of twenty
dollars an hour, or about one hundred hours per month.
Most of those hours are concentrated on weekends and two
to three evenings per week. I make enough food that
there are leftovers so I can have a couple of
nights off. Included in those hours, there's a lot of
care for their adult daughter who lives with us and

(17:54):
is disabled. If I babysit, the house pets while the
housemates go on vacation, which happens a lot. I charge
a twenty dollars a day stipend. We have two dogs,
three cats, and a gecko and some fish. One of
the cats is mine. This is why I cleaned the
carpet without protest, because it's just as likely that the
piss was his as any of the other cats. I've
said no to requests three times in nineteen months, and

(18:16):
each time has been met with pushback like this. All
three were due to the time of the night that
they were asked. A lot have called this a form
of modern day slavery, and I see where.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
You're coming from.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
I've been fine with the situation remaining largely undefined because
even when I protest at chores, I haven't been threatened
with eviction. I entered into the situation at a time
when I was overwhelmed and desperate. It might be predatory,
but it was the best opportunity I had.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
I could have protected myself better.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
Going in As to why I stay in it, it's
because there's an end date insight, and it will set
me up well enough to keep funneling money into savings
for the next few months. If I were evicted, it
would suck, but I would be fine. It's not ideal,
but it works. I recognize that I should have worded
my response better than I did at the time. However,
I do want to push back on the idea that

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I have to do everything they say because they own
the house. If a boss demands overtime for me that's
not previously agreed on, I'm allowed to say no, and
I have done it many times without affecting my employment whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
In fact, my current.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
Boss, who I've done this with the most often using
the same wording, is here wrote me an excellent letter
of recommendation for law school. Times have changed since the
nineteen eighties, and saying no to bad demands is becoming
more and more acceptable. What she meant when she said
you should be careful when you say things like that
at work was that I shouldn't be assertive at all
in a situation where I am a subordinate, which I

(19:39):
very much think is outdated advice. I was not invalidating
the difficult work of raising a family that Danielle did.
I would not dream of offering someone else's parenting advice
because I haven't been in their shoes. Hypothetically, if the
last time I had raised a child was thirty years ago,
I also wouldn't give advice on raising a kid in
the iPad IT generation. Danielle should not be doing the
same to me about work. Is not my professional boss.

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She has never worked in my field, and she knows
that she is not my landlady either. If she were,
there would be a whole lot of rules that she
would need to respect that she doesn't want to, such
as entering my room without notice. Again, because I'm getting
some benefit from the situation, I don't and won't threaten
legal action here because I have enough documentation to protect myself.

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In addition, Chris, Danielle, and I all have personal stakes
involved in this going well. We have a ton of
mutual friends, one of whom is their son and my
best friend. Danielle and Chris have some chronic illnesses that
make housework hard for them, so they are also getting
a law out of this situation. I plan to apologize
and smooth things over. I will follow much of the
advice mentioned here about protecting myself better moving forward, perhaps naively,

(20:43):
I hope this will end well. Danielle and I actually
get along very well most of the time. We don't
hate each other by any means, and we both ultimately
want to see each other happy. That's why this has
worked for so long. To everyone who says that this
situation proves I don't have what it takes to be
a lawyer, don't worry. You will probably never be mic life,
and we have another update first. As an aside, A

(21:04):
lot of the comments here missed the point Danielle was
not angry with me for refusing to do an additional
shore at ten thirty pm.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
That was not the issue.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Even by the most generous of understanding, Demanding additional overtime
work at the end of a fourteen hour shift is unreasonable,
and she knew that. During our follow up discussion, she
added a detail that I had totally forgotten about. The
second room in question has a large potted fiddle leaf
fake tree in it, and in order to steam clean
the additional room, the tree needs to be moved. Neither

(21:32):
she nor I were able to move it after multiple attempts,
so at that point I said, until Chris and I
can figure out a way to move this, the steam
cleaning will have to wait. I know you want it
done tonight, but I will not be doing that very
important context that I missed adding when I was angry.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
That is very important. That Yeah, that does changes change
a lot. So I don't know. I literally can't do
this right now. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
The issue in question was the exchange the next day
as to how I responded the second day when she
came to confront me on my wording for that.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
I understand now that I was absolutely the ahole.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
As one of my close friends put it to me,
those are inside thoughts. My context about her work history
was also unnecessary and irrelevant. Last night, I approached Danielle
and opened the conversation with a profuse apology. No qualifiers,
no protests, suggest that I was rude during our kitchen
conversation and I needed to apologize. She in turn, immediately
apologized for her incredibly poor introduction to the follow up

(22:27):
conversation and for cornering me in the kitchen while I
was otherwise occupied, instead of meeting with me at a
more neutral time. Chris then joined us and we had
an extensive conversation. During the conversation, I asked them to
define how they view our arrangement. They were immediately very
clear that they don't see me as a tenant, employee,
or servant. I pointed out that if that is how
they want to view things, then I need to be

(22:50):
free to say no to extra requests. They were receptive
to this. I also pointed out that in our state,
I could either be considered a tenant or a live
in domestic worker, but due to the length of time
time I've resided here and the conditions in place, I
am definitely not considered just a guest. They did get
offended that I see our relationship as fundamentally a transaction,
which I found kind of funny because they have the

(23:11):
freedom to frame it in their minds as we're helping
this person out, she's helping us out.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
It's wise for me to see it differently.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
I do have obligations to them, and my life has
substantially larger implications should this not work out. In the end,
they agreed that because they aren't landlords and I am
not their employee, in their minds, I should be receiving
more freedom than I have been given. Chris and Danielle
have chronic illnesses that make most of the work I
do at very difficult for them, including a lot of
the care I provide for their adult daughter who lives

(23:39):
with us. We then outlined again exactly what my responsibilities
are and what they are not. Finally, to my surprise,
they apologize for previous invasions of privacy and agreed that
we would.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Put a lock on my room door.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
It is an interior lock only, so I can't lock
it while I'm gone, but I'm fine with the progress.
I was never threatened with fiction or anything like that.
People can be emotionally mature enough to talk through issues
instead of immediately pulling a metaphorical trigger, which is what
happened here. After the conversation, I typed out a long
email detailing the terms of my living here as it
currently stands, and have them send a confirmation in reply.

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While it is not officially a lease, it is something
in writing outlining responsibilities that.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Was agreed to by all parties.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
We agreed that my monthly hours would be reduced to
eighty instead of the roughly one hundred that I've been doing.
If the value of that is calculated according to the
federal minimum wage, that's a value of five hundred eighty
dollars every four weeks, which is more than most rooms
for rent are in our area.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Of course, the labor I do is.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Somewhat skilled and has a market value of at least
double but I use the federal minimum.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Wage for the sake of an argument.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
I also established that the latest I would be available
for housework is nine thirty PM, barring some form of emergency,
and if a task absolutely requires going past that time,
I will be taking that time.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Back on a different day.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
I know that I will laugh at this and contracts
class in the few, but for now, I'm fine with
what it is. Like I said in a comment, it's
not ideal, but it works. I'm not in a position
where I desperately need this anymore, but I'm going to
stay here until August because being able to funnel what
otherwise would be paid in rent into savings is doing
wonders to.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Set me up in the future.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
And by the way we'll do wonders for you and
for us is if you listen to a full episode
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Speaker 3 (25:26):
Podcasts, apps, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or literally anything else you
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Speaker 4 (25:31):
Just search Okay, storytime and there is a tidy bit more.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
I think this is going great.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah, it seems like they've really figured it out. It
seems like they had an adult conversation, right and they
use they use their words, and they didn't yell at
people and stuff. Now and how everything's working out.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
Very clear communication. That's all we wanted and that's what
we got.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
That's what we got. There is a little bit more,
let's get into it.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
To everyone that commented something along the lines of you
have to do everything she says, or you're the help,
or you're entitle I encourage you to think about that perspective.
More employees, household help, and any people in a subordinate
position are still very much an individual and deserving of
basic respect to their space, their time, and their person.
No laws, no matter how extensive, take those basic rights away. Also,

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if you said it was my fault for being in
a situation in the first place, punt rocks. We are
all working through our own situations where we pick the
best option available, even if it isn't perfect.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
That's not weakness or stupidity. That's life and that's.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
The end of the story.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
That's yeah, that's a rap, that's a wrap. That's great. Yeah,
I think they figured it out. I'm happy for them.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Yeah, it makes a lot of sense, Like, I mean,
I feel like there's still a way for her to
be like, yeah, no, we could still be buds, Like
we still be like for a family of friends, you know,
but also like work together kind of yeah, like I
kind of also work with you for you, but also
I'm your daughter's my bestie or your son's my bestie.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
But that is the end of that story. So we're
going to get into the next one.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
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Speaker 4 (27:02):
Here.

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Speaker 2 (27:06):
I let my lying friend live rent free with me.
Now I want compensation.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
That sounds reasonable.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, for all the lies you told exactly Before we start,
I would like to preface that we are both mentally unstable.
Both have been diagnosed ADHD and autism, as well as
also having severe depression that rears its ugly head later on,
and that at least I'm working on getting help. By
the way, this comes from make Rid and if you
want to share your stories, go to our slash Okay

(27:33):
storytime support it. So in the last quarter of twenty
twenty four, a friend of mine was having some troubles
at home with her family and wanted to get out.
And while I twenty nine male, haven't known her for
very long, we just started working together around the beginning
of the year. I knew her situation and empathized with it.
I was genuinely worried about her, as I worry about
all of my friends.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
What can I say?

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Sometimes I believe I'm probably too nice about person. Why
can I sam?

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Probably too nice?

Speaker 2 (28:01):
But for the sake of the story, I digress, and
I will call her Apple twenty two female. Anyways, I
have a decent sized apartment for a one bed, especially
for the price, and I often have friends stay the
night every now and then. This, of course extended to Apple.
Around the end of September, her situation at home got worse,
and she would often come to me and some other
friends to just get away from there and spend a

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few nights over at my place. She would sleep on
the bed and I would take the couch. Fast forward
a few days, and it came up in conversation that
Apple should stay with me until she's able to find
something and get back on her feet.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
No, biggie right.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
We were pretty close friends, hung out a lot, and
we worked together so it was easy to get schedules
lined up well. Unfortunately for both of us, the restaurant
we worked at shut down due to financial situations and
an ongoing construction project on the road directly in front
of it. That's a whole different story. Luckily I was
able to secure a more stable job a couple months ago. Anyway,

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Unfortunately again Apple did not, So she was on the
hunt for a new job, and I helped her as
best as I could between my shifts, taking her to interviews,
suggesting places, even brought up filing for unemployment the works.
During all that, I understood her situation and footed the
bills for a while, and to protect myself because of
bad roommates before and the even worse Reddit stories, I

(29:19):
drafted a roommate Agreement SWATO contract for her to sign
on top of her being on the lease that stated
like rules for the house, separation of bills, all that jazz.
More on that later. It all started out fairly nice.
We had some disagreements here and there, all roommates friends do.
I was in a somewhat okay financial situation to temporarily

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foot the bills and wanted Apple to focus on finding
a new job.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
We even hooked up a little.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Okay, all right, but I do my best to be
a respectful man and treat everyone the way I would
like to be treated. The reason I bring that up
is because she was talking to one of her other
friends and she started to want to see him a lot,
so the hookup between us stopped completely. I wouldn't want
to foster the mentality of cheatingh so we started sleeping separately. Again.
Here's the kicker, though, sad friend Apple was talking to

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live two hours away and she didn't have a car,
so at least being compensated for gats, I occasionally would
drive her there and back a few weekends. I'm super naive,
believe me. I know this is a really strange situation.
So eventually Apple found a new job, and we both
believe she was on the incline again.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Good job, right.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
If it was that easy, this post wouldn't exist. Only
a couple of weeks into the new job, she was
removed from everything and they wouldn't return her calls because
she called in sick once due to weather changes fall
the winter. Super weird and dumb, we both know, and
during all of us actually a bit before getting the
new job, Apple and I would start arguing a little
bit more. We wouldn't do as much stuff together as

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friends anymore. I would always suggest things that we could
do to help our friendship, play video games, go hang
out with our friends, but it was always shut down,
and Apple just wanted to either doom scroll TikTok on
our phone and the other room, or go out with
other friends by herself. I mentioned that we're both mentally unstable,
so sometimes when she would try to help me, albeit
while I definitely needed help and she did help a little,

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I'm not a very talkative person about my feelings or
what I think, and would just shut down and not speak.
I don't really speak to very many people, honestly, maybe
like two friends, and even that's an ultra rare thing.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
But that's getting slightly off track.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Let's just say that Apple had the mentality that since
she was so open about her feelings and thoughts, that
I should do the same and be just as open
since I do always offer my ear if she needed it.
So this pissed her off, as it was me being hypocritical. Anyway,
Apple started spiraling from losing her new job. She stopped
talking to that friend a couple hours away.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
He pissed her off.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Somehow anyway, and we would barely even speak to each
other anymore. The only time we would is when she
wanted to play video games or watch something on her suggestion.
Never mind again, I know. So she started talking to
another guy. He asked her out, and now they're dating.
Whoopedi do really quig? It does kind of re like
go Pe is jealous here, like she's like spending time
with other people and she's hanging out with her friends,

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and he's like, this is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
We're supposed to be friends.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
We're supposed to hang out.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Yeah, that's fine, she can do that. Yeah, I don't
know how to move on.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
It seems like it seems like he's like, oh, you
want to hang out and she's like, oh no, I'm busy. Sorry. Yeah,
And then she's like, oh, yeah, you want to hang
out and he's saying yes. I don't know, yeah, I
kind of don't trust him.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah, Like I'm.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
Trying to think from his perspective, and maybe it's the
kind of thing where like maybe it did mean a
little more to him than yeah, like whatever they had,
and so he's maybe feeling like he didn't get any
closure or something like that from it, and it's kind
of like in this for him anyway, in this kind
of like up in the air, like what are we
what happened kind of a thing, and she's.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Just like, uh, that was all it was.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, it's like casual for me. That's why I feel
like it is Yeah, yeah, I could definitely yeah, but
instead of me helping her find another job, she would
spend all of her time with her new boyfriend. Now
Apple is her own person. I never claimed control over whatever.
It's like she he are all person. I don't want
a controller. Just wish she didn't date that other guy.

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It was just that some bills started to get paid
a little late, and so I would often ask how
the job search was going, and if she filed for
unemployment that's fair, not that often, just like once a
week or something, and she would reply that it's going okay,
and that no, she never filed. It got to a
point where we couldn't even have a conversation without arguing.
But since I prefer kindness of her business and she
has told me before to stop stressing about money around her,

(33:27):
I never told her how bad it got Okay, Well
she's supposed to be paying your rent. You could be like, hey,
you need to pray rent. It's weird.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yeah, that's acceptable to say.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Apple eventually found out that apparently she wasn't actually fired
from that last job. What what, So she would use
that as an excuse to never file for unemployment.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Now.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
I don't know about you, but if your job takes
you off the work group chat and they don't schedule
you for almost a month, it's pretty dang clear that
you don't really work there anymore and you should file.
But who am I to question.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
That that does happen? Sometimes we're like employers. Instead of
being like, hey, you're fired, they'll just kind of stop
putting you on the schedule.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah, But you email them and be like, hey am
I fired?

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah? Like can I get money from the government?

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (34:09):
You guys, what's the truth?

Speaker 2 (34:10):
So to stop me from asking so often, instead of
staying at the apartment, Apple would stay over at her
boyfriend's place ninety five percent of the time and barely
be here anymore. Not that I really cared. I just
wanted to know when I'm getting paid back for the
now three months worth of bills I was shouldering. You
have a conversation with Apple, you call her over and say, hey,
you need to pay me, And of course she would

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argue that since she's been staying with her boyfriend the
last month, that she shouldn't pay. That's a stupid argument.
Absolutely is if you don't want to pay, get a
sub letter.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
That's how it works. That's why you have a roommate.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Yeah, because like if she's the roommate, like her name's
gonna be on the least, like legally you gotta pay pay.
She can just be like, oh, but i've been I've
been on vacation for like yeah, might count because imagine
if you said that to your landlord.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, like heid my guy, Like, uh, I actually am there.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
My stuff is gonna be here and no one else
can live here, but I'm not gonna physically be here.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, So does that so I'm not gonna.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Like pay Yeah, so I don't think it should count. Yeah,
And I told her that she's still on the lease
and should still pay me for half of the bills
because she signed that contract to do so. But of
course that turned out as well as you would expect,
by the way it always is going to turn out. Well,
if you go listen to full episodes of stories just
like this on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app,

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just search up Okay story time. Like, regardless of your
feelings on Apple, I think that you need to set
those boundaries and be like, hey, like, don't let her
keep pushing off paying. Just say like, you need to pay.
I don't care if you're not here physically. You're on
the lease and you owe me money, right, you got it,
you gotta or you either have to move out right,
get a sub letter, or pay the rent.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
If she doesn't like do any of those things, then
you could find the contract or whatever, or I don't know,
sue her or whatever you do in the situation and
then slam it in front of her and go boom.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
I' do you like them apples? Exactly like that? This
was the commentary that we were waiting for. Now. There's
a bunch of other factors that played into the story.
A ton more mental acrobats between us. We have a
friend that would somewhat mediate between us, and it was
suggested that it would be best for Apple to move
with her new month long boyfriend anyway, since having two

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hurricanes in the same one bedroom apartment isn't really a
good idea that I can agree with, and a ton more.
But we'll be here all day if I typed out everything.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
So am I the a.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Hole for kicking out my former roommate for not paying
and asking for my money back? And some comments to
finish off common one, not the Ale. She signed a
contract with you. That is proof enough, and legally you
could go to small claims court for the money. Next
best is to cut her off and change the locks.
She is toxic in that aspect and she shouldn't be

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mad that you don't open up in the same way
I have let others know I will always listen, but
they never pressure me into talking. Those who know me
well know I shut down and will break down before
I open up.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
You deserve your money back.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Comment to not the Ale. You could even look into
a civil suit, possibly, especially since you have documentation proof
of what she was supposed to pay and that is
the end of that story. But yeah, I think you
need to like demand that money or go to court.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
I guess yeah, because I mean I like if she
decides like she eventually did that, like you know, she
would move in with her boyfriend and just pay rent there,
I guess, and not pay rent here anymore. Like she
has to do that before she tells you that she's
not gonna give you money exactly.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
It has to be agreed upon, Gotta be agreed gotta
have a conversation about that.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
But that is the end of that story.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
My future sister in law is problematic, so we moved
our wedding to avoid her.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Give us a really suck.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, Hi, I'm using a fake account because several of
my in laws are aware of my other account. So
I am female thirty one, my now husband is male thirty,
and my sister in law is female nineteen. My husband
does not have the best relationship with his sister due
to his parents favoring her mother in law female fifty nine,
father in law fifty nine. By the way, this comes
from Dangerous Sunday five to five eight on the Okay

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Storytime subpured so a little background. My husband's parents were
having marital issues and heading for divorce around the time
my husband's sister was conceived. When they found out that
they were pregnant, they decided to seek counseling and get help.
In the end, they resolved their problems and the relationship
became stronger.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
That's great love that.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
They view their daughter as the reason they were able
to save their marriage. That would be a lot of
pressure on that child. Yeah, they're like, oh my god,
I can't mess up. She is spoiled. Some examples they
got her a car for her birthday. She totaled in
four days. She borrowed her mom's car after and had
it totaled too due to reckless driving. The insurance company
will not allow her to be insured under her parents.

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We were dating at the time when his mother asked
my husband if he could please put her on his
insurance and she would pay. My husband, at the time
was buying a new car and didn't want to deal
with this situation and told his mother no. Another example
was we had gotten tickets to see Taylor Swift in
Europe for a vacation alone. His sister found out and
demanded that she go instead of me. His father called

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and demanded that we change our plans and he take
his sister. My husband said he could not do that
because he didn't pay for the vacation or the tickets.
My parents did what. We were harassed for a month
for this. Finally, three months after we were engaged, we
visited his parents. At the time, his sister had a
friend living with her and her parents, female seventeen. This
friend developed a crush on my husband. He was extremely

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uncomfortable with the girl's attention towards him. His sister wanted
them to date and asked his parents to talk to
him about it. He refused and said he was engaged
and also not interested in teen girls. What now to
the wedding my in laws are only attending if I
make my sister in law a bridesmaid. I agreed to
keep the peace and gave it to her as an
honorary role, and don't expect her to be involved as

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much as my other bridesmaids. The problem started immediately. First,
she was flirting with another bridesmaid's boyfriend and sending him
in appropriate texts. I don't know how she got the number.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
A lot give it to her.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
I feel like, if she got the number, she really
has a thing for home wrecking. I guess she's like,
either I'm gonna help someone else homewreck or I'm going
to do it myself. She refused to walk with her cousin,
who is a groomsman, and try to get her parents
involved to switch to walk next to the best man
and bump my Maid of Honor. Her reason was because
she couldn't hook up with her cousin. The best man

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is currently in a long term relationship with the Maid
of Honor, and they are how we met. The final
straw was with what she did to my Maid of Honor.
My Maid of Honor is my cousin and my best friend.
My Maid of Honor is the same age as me.
We are born three months apart to the day. We
get mistaken as sisters, or sometimes our extended family mixes
us up. Our moms are sisters.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
I am protective of my Maid of Honor and the
godmother to her children. My Maid of Honor is hard
of hearing and has to wear hearing aids due to
an infection she had as a child. My Maid of
Honor sometimes talks loud because she can't hear and judge
her own volume. She doesn't have any accent. She had
to do speech therapy for years as a child and
had to attend school for children with hearing disabilities until
middle school. My sister in law has been teasing my

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Maid of Honor non stop, yelling and saying I just
wanted to make sure she heard me. She made reference
to my god children being born out of wedlock and
said her boyfriend, the best man and the father of
her children, will come to his senses and find a
tight woman. My maid of honor has been quiet about
all of this because she doesn't want to cause problems
for me and my in laws. I found out because

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my other bridesmaids told me after the bridal shower. At
the bridal shower, my husband and myself both were aware
and gave our blessing to have his best man propose
to my cousin, the maid of honor. Wow, I don't
want anyone to propose in my wedding.

Speaker 6 (41:39):
Yeah, that's a lot. I did have a cousin to
do that, though, did they get it? Was cute?

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Okay, but I don't want that. It happened and everyone
was as excited except for my sister in law. The
final straw was when my maid of honor was heading
back to the table, she took out her hearing aids
because the music was causing her a headache. The hearing
aids were in a glass of water with my sister
in law laughing. What did kick her out of here.
I kick her out immedia. That is actually diabolic, insane.

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That's like if someone who wore glasses took off their
glasses and she smashed them. That is like a demon.
That's insane. Wow, that's also hearing. It's are incredibly expensive.

Speaker 6 (42:19):
Yeah, that's actually I like, how rude, so rude.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Like literally just taking away someone's ability to hear. I
was done and removed her from the wedding party. She
should and disinvited her from the wedding unless she's in therapy.
My in laws were blowing up her phone saying that
their daughter was only joking around and that's her sense
of humor, and my maid of honor can't.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
Take a joke.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
They said, if she cannot come to the wedding, they
will not come. This has been going on for months
and there are some updates. Petunia the thoughts besides, then
don't come, she's terrible. Yeah, don't don't come. Don't come.
If I were opy, I'd be like, thank god, my
in laws aren't coming because they're crazy.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
It's just wild that like grown adults are like, oh
ha ah, she's she's almost an adult. Slash is an
adult and They're like, she's just jokes He's just a jokester.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Updates twenty four hours later from the bridele shower. Wow,
I call my fiance my husband because we are technically
legally married. We just didn't have a ceremony yet. This
was done earlier in the year for insurance issues two
my maid of honor, my cousin was able to get
her hearing aids replaced by an audiologist.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
She had them insured.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
My husband covered the deductible, not for his sister's sake,
but because he cares for my cousin and was embarrassed.
My husband's family is on our side. Apparently. We have
been flooded with phone calls and messages of support from
his family. The reason why. They also have stories of
how badly my sister in law has acted towards them.
My husband has already said that my family is his

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and anyone who mistreats anyone I care about is not
his people. Boom, Yeah, so I guess like his mom, dad,
and his sister are all kind of like the most
hated people in the family. We have decided, with the
help of our wedding planning, to do a destination wedding
pushing the wedding date back six months. In Hawaii, we
got most of our deposits back. Family is helping with
the rest. My husband is called as parents and told

(44:07):
them they are not invited and his sister will not
be invited. They are livid and have started, as of
an hour ago, going to social media to tell their
side of the story. They claim that their daughter was
just making jokes and praying nobody has been buying it.
They try to contact my parents, who shut them down immediately.
We have other family members who also are heart of

(44:27):
hearing or death due to a genetic condition that runs
in the family. Most of the family is hearing, but
everyone looks out for the members that are not. They
are embarrassed and hung up the phone. This is where
we are now and will update if things change and
there is an update. So I guess things did change.

Speaker 6 (44:43):
Yeah, I mean I think what they did was valid.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
We are no contact with my husband's parents. Thank you
for following my advice or sister. We get updates from
my husband's aunt, his father's sister. First, my maid of
honors hearing aids are replaced. After talking to her and
asking what she wants to do, she doesn't want to
be involved in a lawsuit or anything going forward so
long as she's left alone by my husband's sister. She

(45:06):
doesn't want any negative energy in her life. I am
going to respect her boundaries on the matter. However, if
anything happens, she will file a restraining order against my
husband's sister. As for my mother in law and father
in law, as for my husband's aunt, they are in
a bind. They came crying to my husband's aunt. Apparently
their insurance company found out they were letting their daughter

(45:27):
drive their cars interesting even though they were warned she
would not be insured under their policy, and the insurance
company dropped them. We don't know if sister in law
got into another accident or someone reported this to the
insurance company. However, they were sobbing to my husband's aunt
that they are struggling to find an insurance policy they
can afford. My husband's aunt was tired of hearing the

(45:48):
sob stories and brought up the bridal shower incident and
how her own daughter had been bullied by sister in law.
She was embarrassed for her nephew, my husband. My mother
in law and father in law said that sister in
law confessed she was jealous my Maid of honors relationship
with the best man. She apparently had a long crush
on him and was upset that he was getting engaged
to maid of honor. Mother in law and father in

(46:09):
law tried to excuse this behavior as a teenage girl
acting out. My husband's aunt was having none of it
and told them that they ruined their daughter and probably
ruined their relationship with my husband and any future with us.
My husband's aunt asked them to leave and said she
hopes they get everything they deserve for how they treat
their children. She was not going to help them with
their insurance problems. My husband's cousin twenty years old and

(46:32):
a lovely girl. She's a beauty queen and a makeup artist.
My husband's sister was known for breaking her makeup pallets
and beauty supplies out of jealousy. My husband's aunt doesn't
allow my sister in law over the house and will
lock the doors to certain rooms in her house during
family gatherings because of several incidents in the past. Now
for sister in law, she still lives with my in laws.

(46:53):
She lost her job, nobody knows why, and Frankly, I
don't care to know. She is not in college due
to poor grades and lack of direction. She blames me
for her family not talking to her and being kicked
out of the wedding party, and I'm proud I did
so she can blame me as much as she likes.
But I would be proud of you guys if you
joined us live every weekday three pmpst on YouTube, Facebook,

(47:14):
and TikTok just tap our profile, We'll be so proud
of you. And there is a little bit left to
this story, but I think all the right moves were made.
You got this sister in law out of your life
and you're about to get married, so that's pretty exciting.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
Yeah, the sister in law needs to get her life together.
I don't know what's going on, girlfriend, but she need
to figure it out.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Well. I think you're right. I think the parents enabled
her throughout her whole life and now she's just this
spoiled brat who has no consequences for any of her actions.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Yeah, as for our.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Wedding celebration, we are doing a small ceremony on the
beach and any family that wishes to come can book
a hotel on the main island. We are not going
to give the location of the wedding or the reception
until the day of the wedding, except for the wedding party,
and we will hire security. I'll update you when it
happened or anything else happens. And that is the end
of the story. I hope that your wedding went well

(48:04):
and that telling that everyone was able to make it. Yeah,
finding out like too well, I guess they knew the time.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
I hope the security had to tackle Yeah. I sure,
I really hope, because that the security was worth it, like.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Otherwise, hy for that.

Speaker 6 (48:18):
I hope somebody try to crash it.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Yeah. I think if I ever have to have security
in a wedding, I'm just gonna gonna be like, Okay,
someone out of the audience has to get tackled.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
Yeah, to make To be fair, I thought security was
required for events like after a certain number, especially.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
If there's a hall involved.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (48:36):
Okay, Well, anyways, I hope the wedding went well.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
But that is the end of that story. So let's
get into the next one.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Here's John you og host.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Here.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
We're going to get back to the stories, but it's
a quick three minute break of ass from our sponsors.

Speaker 5 (48:49):
My in laws complained about my invitation being not warm,
so I use chat GPT. Why yeah, you tell them
u's that chat GPT. I sent my in laws an
invitation for dinner. We stupidly thought it would be nice
if it came from me religious greetings. Husband was thinking
of inviting you next weekend, God willing. Would that work

(49:11):
for you or do you have other plans. Ten minutes later,
father in law called my husband to tell him they
wished the message had been longer and warmer. Husband agreed
to let me know for the next time. By the way,
this comes from you zoo keeper game own one seven
two six on the Roka storytime subreddit. So the next
day father in law called again over something else. Husband

(49:34):
used the opportunity to point out they still hadn't replied
to my message. Father in law told him they would
not be replying to me until I fixed it and
made it warmer.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
This is ridiculous. They were literally inviting you over to dinner.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
They also pointed out that at my job, I have
to adopt a certain tone to be perceived as professional.
This is the same in a family context. Since they
wanted me to adopt the same strategies I use at work.
I figured i'd use check GPT to get frustrating tests
out of the way as quickly as possible. I showed
the AI my original message, told it my in lost complaints,

(50:09):
and told it to rewrite it super warmly, as if
I were the perfect insert ethnicity.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Daughter in law.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
It came up with an absolutely ridiculous message with emojis everywhere.
I copied, pasted, and sent right after my last left
on red invitation.

Speaker 6 (50:27):
That's like kind of petty, like.

Speaker 5 (50:29):
Boom, take that, take that, take that warm and fuzzy
he you love.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
For you guys to come to dinner. Winky face, It's
always a pleasure to see you. Laugh emoji laugh, emog
lol heart heart, bring the wine and then like the
this mooji and like the uh yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 (50:51):
Husband sent it with me and is okay with it.

Speaker 5 (50:54):
I first suggested to him I could write a genuine
message about my grievances here, but he pointed out I
did so over another petty complaint months ago, and it
led nowhere. We decided to go with the chat GPT
message minus some of the emojis. Father in law works
with AI. I have no doubt he can tell this
is chat GPT. Even mother in law will know. There's
no way either husband or I wrote this. I do

(51:17):
kind of feel a bit guilty about the passive aggressiveness
of our response. There's a very obvious cultural context here.
I understand my culture seems cold to them the way
their seems over the top to me.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
But as God is my.

Speaker 5 (51:30):
Witness, I have unsuccessfully tried everything else to communicate with them.
They've ignored the new message, no phone call to husband.
I don't want this to go nuclear. I just want
them to say sure, see you next week and pretend
to tolerate my cooking.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Am I the a hole?

Speaker 2 (51:48):
I don't know. It's like a little petty.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
I also don't know the context right, Like, clearly there's
some already back and forth that's been happening, there's some tension.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
I feel like I need a a little bit more
information about this. Yeah, I agree, like it seems like
maybe you're being a little petty, but also they're being.

Speaker 6 (52:06):
Being a little unnecessary as well.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Yeah, so it's like maybe it's just.

Speaker 5 (52:10):
Maybe we're both a holes a little bit, just like
valid update sixteen days later. I was here a couple
of weeks ago because my in laws did not find
my dinner invitation warm enough TLDR. They refused to reply
to me until I wrote a warmer invitation. I thought
that was stupid, so setting back an AI generated version
filled with emojis and obvious AI lines. Mother in law

(52:32):
did reply to my second message, religious screetings, thank you
for the invitation. We will get together soon, god willing.
I did not follow up and let the invitation expire.
Ooh they did not come.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Well yeah, it sounds like they were like, yeah, well
we'll get together god willing, but didn't actually say yeah,
we're coming to this event. But then like she didn't
follow up either. Yeah, but I think it probably because
she was like, well they didn't.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
It's like I feel like it's like if you like
texted someone you're like, hey, let's hang out oh, and
they say like, God's hopefully yeah sure in the future.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
Yeah right.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
It's like they don't say it d and you're like, okay,
well you don't want to hang.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Out, yeah, go off.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
A bit after that, we had a large family gathering
at their place, my husband, grandparents, his parents, their kids,
and grandkids. I kept the interaction with father in law
and mother in law to a minimum. I was polite,
I greeted them, but nothing more. I thought I had
made enough efforts trying to connect with people that did
not respect me enough to reply to a text message.
In the past, they've always used my lack of relationships

(53:31):
with the rest of my family against me. I was
not close enough to sister in law, or I did
not spend enough time with Grandma in law, and it
was proof I was not making any effort to integrate
into the family. I've tried to explain their family is
very large and it takes a while to build a
relationship with tens of people who are already close knit.
But you might as well try and convince a mountain

(53:52):
to move to a different spot. Well, not this time.
The younger kids have always been easy. They're not as
set in their ways, and they accepted me very quickly.
I spent hours with kids playing all over me. The
babies used to cry when they saw me. They hate strangers.
Not only have they stopped crying, they smile.

Speaker 6 (54:08):
And play with me.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Now so easy.

Speaker 6 (54:10):
They're so cute.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Yeah, like literally, when I went for Thanksgiving, to my
cousin's house. First five minutes their their kids.

Speaker 6 (54:17):
Were like, like, I don't know who are you?

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Like yeah, Seng're like whoa yeah, I'm like let's play, yeah,
just spin them around.

Speaker 5 (54:26):
My oldest sister in law also married outside of their cultures,
so she's always been the most empathetic since she knows
what her husband went through with them. My other sister
in law is a lot more like mother in law,
hard one to win over, but even she soften and
we're now in a place where we get along. The
final blow, though, were my husband's grandparents father in law's parents.

(54:47):
They're very conservative and would have clearly preferred if he
had married within the community. The grandmother barely speaks a
word of English. I'm not what they wanted, but even
they have moved on. They hugged me, and they were
clearly happy to see me. Between the fact I now
feel comfortable with everyone else and the fact I stopped
even trying with them, I guess it dawn on them
that my problem was not their family, it was them.

(55:09):
It might seem like a small thing to the readers here,
but such a level of actual awareness coming from them
is nothing less than a miracle of God in my eyes.
So it seems like they realize. Wait, okay, everyone else
likes them, So am.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
I the problem? Am I the drama? Yes? Yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:29):
After the gathering, they called husband again and asked him
if I hated them and still held a grudge for
the fact they opposed us getting married for a very
long time. Husband and his infinite patients argued for hours
with them and tried to explain that when you treat
people unkindly, they do not tend to love you back.
He pushed back on the idea I was punishing them

(55:49):
and reminded them I have tried very hard for months
to get along with them, and all I got for
it was criticism and ghosting. Whatever else was said during
that fight, it seems to have had some sort of effect.

Speaker 6 (56:01):
But we don't like to fight.

Speaker 5 (56:03):
So you should join us live on YouTube where we
play very nice and Facebook every weekday at three pm PST.
And we're probably live right now, so tap our profile.

Speaker 6 (56:15):
And there's another relevant update.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
But let's discuss what are your thoughts. My thoughts are
It seems like they are, yeah, a little bit self
aware right now, which is great news. I do think
it's funny though, that they went to the husband and
they were like, hey, did your life like still not
like us because we were super against your marriage and
were really critical of her.

Speaker 5 (56:36):
She's still holding a grudge about us really hating her
and not wanting her to be a part of our family.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Yeah, And he's like yeah, yeah, And they're like, what's
no way.

Speaker 5 (56:45):
They've stopped calling husband once a week to give a
detailed report of everything I've done wrong during the last
seven days.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Geezing that, but improvement sucks.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
Well.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
They still cannot accept to see me wearing pants around them.
They seem to have given up on trying to convince
us I should never wear pants outside my own house again.
The twenty first century reader may be confused by this.
I'm grading on a curve here, and for her credit,
I think mother in law has taken the mental load
to try and fix the relationship.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Oh, he's like, I am being'scious anxious because this is
a big deal.

Speaker 5 (57:21):
For this far, she's been the one texting me and
giving news and inviting us to a restaurant, all the
emotional labor that used to be mine.

Speaker 6 (57:30):
Okay, good on them, let's go progress.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
And then it's going to end. The story is gonna
end with the mother in law sending a text like
join us for dinner, and then.

Speaker 6 (57:39):
That wasn't warm enough.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
Yeah, father in law is still a piece of work,
but since his parents are not like me, not much
he can say or do. Ironically, his culture is now
working for me.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
There we go. That's a beautiful ending. We love a
happy ending.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
No, it literally went from like my in laws hate
me and I'm never gonna, you know, get along with
them to figured it out.

Speaker 5 (58:01):
Now they can all sing Kumbaya and hold hands and
be happy and mary.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
And that's all you want. Yeah, but that is the
end of that story, so we'll get into the next one.
My sister in law and her fiance keep causing trouble,
but my mother in law lets them get away with it.
What the heck? Mom, pop letting them.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Get away with it?

Speaker 2 (58:22):
What the heck? I twenty two female and my boyfriend
twenty four male, have been living with his parents for
the last three years due to the market being absolute crap.
We have a reactive dog and a risky breed, so
in order for us to move out, we have to
get a house and don't have the option for an apartment.
By the way, this comes from No Seesaw fifteen oh
seven on the Okay Storytime supured it. So for a while,

(58:44):
my boyfriend's sister twenty seven female and her fiance thirty
male were living with all of us as well, along
with their daughter, three female. At first, things were going
okay with everyone living with us, but then little fights
would occur. One day, I'd assume I was alone in
the house and even checked upstairs and downstairs and saw
no one. I was told earlier by the sister that
they'd be leaving at noon, so I went and blasted

(59:06):
music in the bathroom and began my shower. When I
heard banging and screaming at the locked door. I paused
my music and got out of the middle of my
shower to hear the sister yelling at me to turn
the effing music down. I shouted through the doors, sorry,
and I thought you guys already left. When she responded back,
come out here, while she was still hitting the door,
I told her she needed to calm down and I

(59:28):
wasn't going to come out in a towel with her
acting like that. Within the last two years, things escalated,
so when I was twenty one, I moved back in
with my dad. They still were accusing me of things
like putting laxatives in their tea when I wasn't even there.
Turned out to be mold.

Speaker 6 (59:44):
That's insane.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Eventually I moved back in and this is where things
got worse. One day, after taking a shower in our
shared bathroom, I got out and saw f you written
on our side of the bathroom. They were known to
write things on the mirror. I showed my boyfriend's dad
and and said that I didn't want to start anything,
but we all need to have a discussion about boundaries.
When the dad brought this up, the fiance got disrespectful

(01:00:07):
with the dad, and the dad said, if you think
you could talk to me like that, then get the
app out.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
So they did.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Now. After that things chilled out a little bit. Words
were exchanged between my boyfriend and the fiance, but we
tried not to feed into any of it. After that,
we haven't seen them for a month or so. But
after that they needed money and asked to do yard work,
and the mom told them yes and told the dad
that she wouldn't leave them alone in the house. After
I got home from work, I jumped in the shower.

(01:00:33):
I was tired after a sixteen hour shift and didn't
know they had been there, so I just went on
my normal routine until I started shampooing my hair. I
smelt a minty smell when I lathered it out, and
my scalp was burning. I started to freak out and
washed the rest of it out and jumped out of
the shower. Turns out, when they were here, the mom
left them alone in the house and they put liquid vics.

(01:00:55):
Found an empty container that my boyfriend and I had
never opened, all in our shampoo, conditioner, body wash, Summer's
Eve wash, Summer's Eves wipes, and lotions. Oh my god, that's.

Speaker 5 (01:01:07):
That's It's like the laxatives in the food. Yeah, now
they're like putting, but.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Now they're actually doing what they were kind of accusing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Yeah, that's I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:01:15):
The good thing is it's not like it's gonna kill you.

Speaker 5 (01:01:17):
I was like, okay, you know, but like, what an
air What a bad prank to play on someone.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Oh. I never said anything to them about it, but
me and my boyfriend made it clear to the parents
what happened and that we were not happy. The parents
offered to replace their stuff, but we declined dad didn't
want anything to do with them anymore. But then the
mom continued to bite them over and be buddy buddy
with them even after everything. I get that's her daughter,
but at the same time, she always tries to protect them.

(01:01:45):
So am I the ale and there is an updates?
I mean, obviously you're not the Aloy. No, I do
think you should maybe leave that house because you're not
necessarily that safe.

Speaker 5 (01:01:55):
Because also, I feel like, you know, the mom's loyalties
are gonna lie with your own kid. So it's like,
I don't know how much OP can like control what
the family does, but I don't think they're the a hole.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
No, Yeah, I think it's just like if you can
move back with your dad or find another place that
you can stay, Yeah, that'd be obviously financially, it seems
like that's pretty tricky for you guys, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Get out.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Unfortunately, like there's not like a conversation that you could
really have that would change their mind because it is
their house and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
That is their daughter.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
A ton of people were saying that I should update
this since it sounds like I'm just a free loader,
complaining that it's the mom's house, and the dad is
just trying to make peace of that. I should get
rid of my reactive dog and get an apartment. So
to clarify, my boyfriend and I pay rent about as
much as it would cost for us to own an
apartment in our area. This allows us to say, very slowly,
since we also have student loans we are paying off,

(01:02:47):
and et cetera. The incidents that have occurred have really
strained the mom and dad's relationship. The son or my boyfriend,
is the dad's real only biological son. He is beyond
pissed at the daughter and fiance. He does doesn't want
them in a house at all, and doesn't want the
mom paying for them because of how they've treated me
and my boyfriend and him. This being said, the mom

(01:03:08):
keeps lying and going behind all of our backs. Yikes.
I still have a good relationship with the mom. I
would never tell her what she can and can't do,
or demand her to do things.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
This being said, I have.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Made it clear that I am very uncomfortable with them
being over unsupervised. Also, getting rid of my dog is
not an option. He is a very good dog. He's
been through training. However, since he was attacked when he
was a puppy. He's just an inside dog. We do
train him, which he is one of the smartest dogs
I've ever had, and he's good with the people he knows.
He's just super anxious and barks when he hears something

(01:03:41):
he doesn't know, making us worry if we were to
get an apartment, we wouldn't be able to take him
on walks or that he would constantly bark at the
noises outside and cause a noise complaint. That's like Ava.
She like whenever she meets new people, she barks at them. Yeah,
my dog. She keeps at home too.

Speaker 5 (01:03:56):
She's every time someone's at the door, including us. Yes,
they bark.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
Yeah, She's like, I'm like Eva, but.

Speaker 6 (01:04:01):
They won't do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Yeah. And she's super smart, like she's never bitten anyone ever. Yeah,
but like she's just bark bark, barks, Yeah, and then
she we feel your reactive dog. Yeah, it's hard. By
the way, we also feel like you should join us
live every weekday at three pmpst on YouTube, Facebook and TikTok.
Just top by profile and there is a little bit left.
But you canna talk to the parents as much as

(01:04:23):
you want, and they can say that they you know,
are gonna look out for you, but you can't force
them to not let their daughter come into the house.

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
Yeah, if they need to go separate themselves and go
to get their own place, then you know, kind of
you gotta figure out what you need to do, because
I think the mom's not gonna kick away her daughter.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
No. Yeah, And lastly, I know all of the incidents
have been in the bathroom. These were just the biggest
incidents that have happened. There have been more like the
tea or them when they lived here and did not
pay rent for years, but do little petty things to
both me and my boyfriend. They would constantly make the
bathroom we shared a pig stye and would blame things
that they do did on us, would bang on walls

(01:05:02):
to keep us up at night, et cetera. They were
freeloaders and to clarify, they are now living with the
daughter's real dad, rent free. Please let me know if
you all have any other questions. I'm trying my best
to add all the details, but I always think I'm
typing too much. My question, I guess is Opie said
that they're paying They're paying rent and it's about the
same as it would be in that area.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
So I'm thinking, like, why not, what are you saving?

Speaker 5 (01:05:26):
Well, I think they said they need a house for
the dog, so maybe it's like, oh, they did just
say the apartment price, but they're in a.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
House because they were worried about the dog.

Speaker 6 (01:05:38):
Maybe get a dog friendly apartment.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Yeah, honestly I think that you could. Probably you would
probably be okay, depending on what type of apartment. Yeah,
you know, as long as it doesn't have super thin walls. Yeah,
it might be time to fly the nest. But that
is the end of this episode. So if you love us,
make sure to subscribe.

Speaker 6 (01:05:56):
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