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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is Jonas is Sam your og Okay Storytime
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the sponsors that keep the show alive. My roommate is
trying to replicate my friend. I had to Warner Geneva Convention.
Cloning is illegal. No fizz primarily involves me. Solberry twenty nine,

(00:20):
My roommate Cassie twenty six, the girl she's stalking male
twenty eight in Simon thirty one, male's fiance and ladies
and gentlemen. Welcome to the white bull Yeah, welcome to
whiteboard Topia. Also, what is that name?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Male?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
May l m A E L say male? Male? I'm
just say male. We live in a city of almost
two million, but somehow everyone this nerd circle knows or
at least knows of everyone else. By the way, it's
comes from Soulberry at ten thirty one. If you want
to sm meet your own story, it's good. Our shash
Okay Storytime separate. It's so I moved to this city

(00:58):
for college and ended up staying, as a lot of
people often do. I was living alone until I met
Cassie through a mutual friend about three years ago. I
come from a very stable home life subtle flex but okay.
I have a very close relationship with my mother and stepfather,
and I have twin younger brothers that I talked to daily. Cassie,
on the other hand, the roommate, I think, was raised

(01:23):
by her aunt and uncle. Yes, and was on and
off medicine. I don't know what for for a lot
of her middle school years. I am already detecting some
judgmental vibes from op and some superior than now vibes.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
But what do you mean, She's just talking about the
medicine she was taking, with no ulterior connotations whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
I am. I am sensing things. She has no siblings
and a voice calls from her aunt, only talking to
her maybe once a week. She has her quirks, but
I thought she was a well adjusted member of society.
I am hating ope more by the minutes, maybe fematurely.
We shall see. Cassie and I were at a convention
roughly a year ago when we met Simon and Mayl.

(02:04):
They had just moved to the area and Simon, Cassie,
my roommate, and I hit it off. We found out
that we all had quite a few mutual friends, and
our friendship was solidified when we all saw each other
at a party a week later. Mail was really quiet
and reserved the first couple of times we all hang out,
but eventually we were all getting along very well. Simon
and Mayle are somewhat of a power couple, if that's

(02:26):
the correct word. They are both attractive, they have good careers,
but they also have a very visible and active presence
in these subculture communities and a myriad of hobbies both
within and outside of the community. Don't tell me this
is another niche community, please, Fenny says it's may L,
But unfortunately I have already said mail, so that is

(02:49):
what we're sticking a withy.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I've also wrote it as male Mayil, so it's a mail.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
They have a lot of friends surrounding them, and their
condo is often the center of operations for weekends, outs
or parties. Mail is very no nonsense, take charge kind
of person, and Simon is very goofy, open and welcoming.
They're both very social basically, and after we met them,
Simon and Mayl got engaged. Shout out to them. It

(03:15):
was a long time coming apparently, and everyone was thrilled.
While I know that Cassie has a crush on Simon,
oh okay, I wonder if that's gonna pop up later.
Not surprising. He's very good looking and charismatic. I thought
that it was something very innocent, as she had crushes
on other people in our friends circle before. But sometime
after they were they were engaged. I can't remember the specifics.

(03:38):
I wasn't writing anything down at this point. She said
that she was going to flake On plans to hang
out at their house and play board games. When I
asked why, she said that Mail and Simon had been
fighting a lot recently and it made her uncomfortable. Hmm,
is this suspicious? Why are we Why are we around

(04:00):
when they're fighting all the time?

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Though?

Speaker 1 (04:02):
What's going on? What?

Speaker 2 (04:04):
They're not roommates? No, they're not roommates. Nope, So why
does it matter? Would you fight that they final?

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Of course, because Op and Cassie are the roommates. Yeah,
as we know from the board.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
I'm just trying to figure out how that behavior clues
into the fact that she has a crush on Simon.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
I think we're I think we're building up with something
like I think there's a build up. I was genuinely surprised,
as I wasn't aware of her being over there without me,
and every time we were there everything had seemed normal.
Cassie insisted that they'd been fighting, giving each other a
silent treatment, and kind of joked that I was normally
so observant, but I hadn't noticed this. She then said

(04:41):
that she wasn't surprised that Mail was a cold hearted
person and Simon honestly deserved better. Ah, I see it
now better like you, Cassie. Yes, she's making all this up.
You were my roommates, but you want to make a
home in his heart, don't do it? Uh. This seemed
like a pretty intense escalation to me, as she had

(05:01):
never had a problem with them before and got along
with both Simon and Mail, so I suggested that she
skip hanging out and take some time to draw things out.
She apparently did this a lot in therapy, and making
these flow charts seems to help her with graduate school anxiety,
worries and difficult decisions. That's kind of cool. Okay, have
coping tools that'd be nice, hoping tools.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
We like that.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
She and she instead asked if I was still going,
and when I said yes, immediately said you go, oh
oh yog, all right, all right, I'm gonna go. I'm
gonna go, Da goodam. Just let them be. No, Cassie
has to take him. Cassia has to take him. I

(05:44):
didn't want to discourage her, but I said that if
she felt uncomfortable, she should tell me and we would leave.
We went, and she would laugh and joke with Simon,
but when Mail spoke to her or asked her questions
food drink choices, for example, she got visibly uncomfortable and
would I have shut down or pretend not to hear her.
Simon would glance between me and her a couple of times,

(06:06):
but no one said anything, even Male. I hadn't seen
Cassie act like this in a long time, and I
resolved talked to her about it when I got home. Well,
that never happened, as we ended up staying the staying
the night over at Simon and Mayle's place, and going
out to brunch the next day, where Cassie seemed perfectly
fine with Mail. This is strange. I don't know, something's

(06:30):
very off. This is starting to get afraid. Yeah, my
fear levels are growing like I'm feeling like the Jaws
music starting to play, Like, yeah, I don't know exactly
what's going on in this time, Cassie. It seems once Simon,
but there's something else that's Weird's going on. I feel

(06:50):
like I can't put my finger on it. Chat comment
below what you think it is, because I'm not sure.
I thought it had blown over and Cassie didn't say
much about her from then on, so nothing sticks out
in my head until Cassie announced a couple of weeks
later that she had a boyfriend. Chat. Okay, so maybe
we're in the clear. Maybe Cassie is distracted and doesn't
go after Simon. Cassie has always been by, but she's

(07:13):
casually dated women exclusively since I met her, so this
was a new development. I asked if she'd ended up
bringing him around if she wanted to switch beds. Her
aunt ended up giving us mattresses a couple of years ago,
and I took the bigger one at Cassie's insistence. At first,
she said yes, and then changed her mind, saying that
he lived alone and it was easier to go over

(07:33):
to his house. Hmmm, over at his house? Do you
say yes? Despite this? She never spent the night there,
although she'd vanished to his house for hours on end.
After she got her boyfriend that I never met. Almost
two months later is when crap really started getting weird.

(07:54):
Cassie started getting oddly obsessed with things she'd never cared
about before, like skincare and hair care. Her face started
breaking out like crazy, and it seemed to really frustrate her.
What is what is happen? This is a this is
a freaking true crime mystery. She was getting packages almost
every other day from Amazon or other places. I found
a pamphlet on our side door table for laser eye surgery.

(08:17):
She has glasses. She got a brand new phone out
of the blue and started going to her school's gym
and starving herself and then binging the next day. That
does not sound good at all, and constantly told me
that she was starting to lose weight. She was looking
so good. Her front airbags were getting smaller. I thought her, damn,

(08:40):
oh man, I thought that she was really talking about
her car for a second day. That's our censoring, ladies
and gentlemen. The airbags in the front of a woman.
If you didn't catch that, those all natural airbags, all natural.
They're naturally shrinking ladies and gentlemen, according according to that
line of the story. Now, when I was holding laundry
one day, I found a shirt that was not mine

(09:01):
and would not fit her. When I asked her about it,
she quickly snatched it away, saying that she bought it
for when she would be fit enough to wear it.
We'd always watched TV shows before, but she was spending
an abnormal amount of time on her phone now. She
mentioned setting her phone to French because she wanted to
learn another language, and I told her to talk to
Mail or another friend, Stephanie, both are trilingual. She said

(09:23):
she'd never ask Mail for help and asked me to
not talk about Mail around her. Okay, okay, just to
just to get a pulse on the chat. Let's put
up a poll. Cheating or not? Is is Cassie cheating
with Simon or not? No? No, no, you say no?

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Pray sell Why he is currently attempting to become male?
Down to write? Speaking French, changing body types, changing clothing
tastes everything about me.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
I want to be male. Oh, she wants to be
a male lady. When I asked why, she said, it
seems like male was mean to her, and Male's behavior
gave her anxiety. At this point, I started writing things
down as warning flags that were going off, but I
had no idea why what they meant, or how to
handle it. She Opie has got a scooby do this

(10:23):
thing because this is this is getting nutty. By the way,
only nine percent say cheating. I think Dakota is probably right,
but there's still a chance. There's still a chance that
that's what's happening. But I digress, which brings us to yesterday,
when I got a text from Simon after I came
home from work and Cassie had left me a text
saying that she was at her boyfriend's word for word

(10:44):
off of my phone. So this is Simon Simon, Hey,
are we hanging tonight? Me? I had no plans why,
Simon just saw Cassie leaving our development wondered if we
forgot about plans we'd made Male's working overtime tonight. So
I'm sorry if there's a miscommunication. There wasn't. I had
no plans to hang out, and neither did Cassie. Simon, okay, nice,

(11:04):
just making sure see you on Sunday. I thought about
texting Cassie at this point, but decided against it. She
came home that night and her hair was dyed dark brown.
Let me guess who's got dark brown hair? Paula Abdul?
Could it be male? It's Paula Abdul.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Well, Paula Abduell definitely does have as we all know, icon,
Paula Abduel has dark brown hair.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Sorry, guy, but maybe maybe male does do. Where did
paul Abduell come from? Hey, I can be random back
and I can hang with the buys. I'm thinking of
how good she dances? Oh God, keep it out of
your mind. So great dancer? Oh God, I haven't seen it. Okay, okay,

(11:48):
you're a regular Cassie going for Simon over here over
Paula Abduel. Oh God. So I mentioned that Simon had
texted me about seeing her leave the development, and she
denied being there. I showed her the message and she
read it before handing it back to me and saying
that she didn't think that there would be any board
games on Sunday. When I asked why, she told me
that Mail and Simon were considering calling off their engagement

(12:11):
because Simon wasn't happy with Mail anymore. When I asked
her what made her think that she got defensive, she
said Simon talked to her more than I realized, and
that they had a real connection, and that she was
privy to all kinds of terrifying things about Mail that
Simon had told her. She pulled out her phone and
said that I should believe her, but if I didn't,
she'd show me the proof. For some reason, seeing the

(12:34):
phone was the turning point for me, and it hit
me all at once. Are you ready for it? Are
you ready, ladies and gentlemen, Let the tide roll in?
Let the pot roll tide well. Mail had dark brown hair.
Mail had the exact same phone that Casey suddenly got,
and said it to one of Male's primary languages that

(12:56):
she speaks, French. Mail didn't wear glasses, But Mail, did
you have ray bands in the exact same style that
Casey suddenly bought pointlessly, because Casey did not wear contacts.
I'd never met Chad, but all of her descriptions of
him sounded suspiciously like Simon. Tall, tan, black wavy hair,

(13:17):
and really dark brown eyes. So I asked to see
her phone, and she basically flipped out, saying that I
should trust her on principle, and we're friends. I wanted
to ask her about everything I'd noticed, but I had
no idea how to bring it up, so I sort
of choked on my words. I mean, how would you, Hey,
I noticed that you're becoming a carbon copy clone of

(13:40):
our friend Malor are you trying to steal Simon away
because you think that'll work.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
The only way that you get anything positive out of
this situation is if you come to your friend like, Hey,
don't fight back with me on this. Just know I
do see that you're copying Male. Hey, I'm not gonna
judge you. She's gonna let you know that Simon's not
just going to randomly forget about his fiance not being you, Like,

(14:09):
you're just not gonna ever be that woman to him.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
You're you're Cassie, she's male. This is a tough one.
I'm honestly torn between that and telling maybe Simon or
Simon and Male. I'm like, it feels like she's she's
so far gone that I'm I'm almost wanting to have

(14:34):
Simon and Male ready to protect themselves. I don't know,
this is this is so weird. This is this is
this is so strange. Yeah, I don't know. Uh, the
blind one says you do not do this one on
one not safe. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
It's like you gotta you gotta make a judge of
like how exactly how unanaged is Cassie really behaving? Like
you know, you can just put it on the glass,
like dude, like Simon told me, you were like outside
of their development, Like what's going on?

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Like why are you you? Why are you doing this?
There's other men, but Simon is not the last man,
but there's only one Simon, Simon Cowell. Well, we've gone
full circle, folks, We've gone full circle. Thank you Dakota
for completing my circle. My brother. Now, Cassie used the
opportunity to yell at me again for not trusting her,

(15:20):
started crying and said that she was going over to Chad's,
slamming the door on her way out, and wouldn't you
know the addresses one two three, Simon's house, just kidding him,
Simon's backyard in the bushes one two three. After a
couple of minutes of just standing there trying to process things,
I started snooping. I know I shouldn't have, but that's

(15:44):
water under the proverbial bridge. At this point, I started
in her bathroom where I where I was faced with
an unfamiliar array of French skin care products and really
expensive shampoos and conditioners. The first drawer had all for
old stuff suave substance store, uh, substance, pharmacy store, skincare stuff,

(16:05):
et cetera. Can we not say that? Really not? And
the second drawer had more of old stuff with a
paper list in it. I opened it and found a
bunch of things written down, divided by lines. I realized
after a moment, after a moment, they were brands VNA, FIGHTO,
made well and that sort of thing. No free sponsors, bleep,

(16:26):
all of those editors, please come on, don't don't be
doing that, divided by types, divided by types skincare, clothes,
et cetera. Also written were seemingly random words like yoga,
bangles and peacocks. I am very worried about, Cassie. Yes, sanity,

(16:49):
insane in the member. This is an acute mental health episode.
This is maybe it's chronic.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
I don't know how long this has been going on,
but it's like this is unwell behavior.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, like it's a fixation. It's an obsession.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
It's like anyone who's in their right mind would look
at their behavior doing that and being like, oh my god,
wait a minute, what am I doing? I'll never just
be able to replicate this person, Like, I have to
let go of this, this is silly.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
So Cassie worked a part time job and did not
have a lot of money to spare. So I was
wondering where she got the money for this brand new
range of stuff, and wondering if that's why her skin
was so bad. Now I opened the third drawer and
sort of got this horrible thinking feeling. The third drawer
I had a bunch of things of males in it, lipsticks,

(17:40):
hair accessories, and effing pouched with her name embroidered on
it that I didn't open, and a bunch of other
stuff that I didn't take stock of. After seeing this,
I immediately texted Simon with hey, is Mail missing anything
from her bathroom? Simon immediately called me, Yes, Mail had
been missing things for a while. Now I explained what
I'd found, and Simon was just confused as lost and lost.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
My god, this is the hey Arnold gum shrine in
Helga's closet. Helga for all my Nickelodeon children. Yes, this
is the gum shrine that Helga had of her sick obsession. Yes,
with mister Arnold football head.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yes, dude, that that was me, bro I was. I
was straight football over here. There she is, there, she is,
this is every this is her the secret drawer.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
And again I think it's more to like male like,
she's obsessed. Cassie's obsessed with being this woman who's with Simon.
It's not even so much Simon as much as being
the person Simon wants, not being with Simon. In a way,
that's what it feels like, because it's my my girl, girly,

(18:54):
you're stealing her bathroom products.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
It's it is. It has reached levels of like we
gotta get something involved. So Sophia Collen says, get a
restraining order if you can. She could literally end up
six feet under. Yeah, we don't know how far she
how low she's gonna go, So I think I think
that's fine, just as a precaution. Now, all this ended

(19:18):
with him asking me to just remove those things from
her bathroom, put them in a bag, and meet them
the next day to pick them up so I could
explain to Mail he said that I was still welcome
in their house, but Cassie wasn't welcome anymore. He then
said he'd call and tell her this and hung up.
I gathered all of Male's things and move them safely
to my room, and when I came back out into
the living room, I had five rambling texts from Cassie.

(19:40):
In them, she blamed me for ruining her chances with Simon.
She accused me of destroying our friend which good, he's
he's taken. He's a taken man, and you should not
want to clone yourself to get him at that. Don't
do that. Hello. She accused me of destroying our friendship
by going through her things, saying she'd never forgive me,

(20:02):
and that Mail was a witch who was lying and
trying to frame her to keep her insignment apart. I
immediately called casey uh, and it rang once before it
went straight to voicemail. At this point, no holds were barred.
Her laptop was on the arm of the couch and
I opened.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
All right, brother, we're doing the wrong thing. Now, we
don't need to do this. We're doing the wrong thing.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Protect yourself, but uh yeah, leave it, leave it to
the beaver. Leave it to the police or somebody else.
At first, I was going to go on her Facebook,
but everything was was right on the desktop folder in
in a folder named and and and and and and
and n and and and and and. Pictures of Simon

(20:48):
from Instagram, Facebook, what little pictures Mail had posted on
social media, and screenshots of for Twitter updates, pictures of
their house, the bathroom, the inside of Male's dresser drawers,
pictures peering through the windows of both of their cars,
and a picture of Mail's engagement ring. I immediately got
the contents of the folder and email them to myself

(21:09):
from Cassie's email account. I tried calling her again and
it was shuttled to voicemail. I was considering going into
a room, but thought that that might have also been
crossing a line, so I just went into my room
to take stock of what Cassie had stolen from Mail.
She had taken jewelry, a lot of stuff from the
French pharmacies, tampons, calling cards, ointments, a lot of lipstick,

(21:30):
some skincare, mostly sunscreen, hair accessories. Some thing's definitely from
her bedroom, a small, small pink socks, for example. So
I'm at a loss I'm convinced there's no boyfriend of Cassie's,
but I have no idea where she's been when she
says she's at his house. I'm convinced that something is
very wrong with Cassie for her to be so weirdly

(21:52):
obsessed with Mail, but I had, but I have no
idea what Mail. Woke up with the flu this morning,
so we are not meeting tonight. That also, that also
greatly concerns me. That also greatly concerns me.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Oh, this is poisoning territory, biochemical getting into KGB tactics territory.
And Cassie hasn't been home since she left yesterday. I
tried calling her twice today.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Simon texted me briefly earlier in the day, but aside
from that, I haven't spoken to anyone else about this.
We have an update. We are not even halfway through
this saga, ladies and gentlemen, But my god, Dakota, please, Riley, please, brothers,

(22:43):
what do we do here? I think maybe it was
good to get on the computer and get those files.
I say, bat them in. Huh, beat them in, bat
them in, bait them in, Oh, bait them in. Yeah,
what do you mean they're there there, There is no bait.
They're already in it. Yeah, but I'm taking photos of
them in the bushes. Are you saying, bait Cassie, bait

(23:04):
Cassie in, she broke in, Get Cobs involved. Boom, you're stuck.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Its sting, I gotcha, gotcha. If you know Cassie's family,
talk to them maybe or inform them that.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
She appears to be going through like an acute episode.
That's a good that's a good point too. Yeah, so
this is like reach out to whoever you can. I agree. So,
ladies and gentlemen, we got an update, and I'm afraid
but I'm gonna dive right in. Sorry for the radio silence,
and thank you for your concerns and messages. A couple
of things I want to address. I own my own

(23:39):
apartment and it has sliding doors in all the rooms,
hence my comment that I probably couldn't install a bathroom
door lock quick clean easily. Also point number two, Simon
and Mayle's condo has keypad locks. They changed the combination
last night, but the computer records of when it was unlocked.
It does not show when it was locked. Don't suggest
that anyone was in their condo during the day when
they were at work. We were over at their house

(24:00):
at least once a week, sometimes twice, so it's not
unthinkable that Cassie could have taken those things while we
were over there. Mail thinks she has food poisoning. She
was feeling ill on Thursday after a company lunch, and
a coworker from her a department apparently called off yesterday too.
She wasn't feeling well enough last night to see her
in her maid of honor at her condo. Simon told

(24:22):
Mail everything that I told him around the time I
made the post, and Mail was understandably freaked out about
the whole thing. Friends normally aren't welcome upstairs in their
condo at male's requests. I've never seen Mail in Simon's
bedroom or their bathroom, aside from those images on Cassie's computer,
so the fact that she was stooping around there it
made Mail furious. I wrote the original post about Thursday's

(24:45):
events at yesterday. Around five or so after I wrote
the post, I was texting quite a few people, one
of whom got a hold of Cassie's aunt Mary on
my behalf Marie got I keep mispronouncing names. It's like, well,
it's because you had that.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
You guys, you got the may mile at the beginning,
and you're like mail all right now everything's getting a
little French when you do it.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Let me just let me just you know, ruin, ruin,
ruin everything from here, ye, Marie. Marie called me around
seven pm the aunt and we spoke for almost half
an hour. Marie had told me that Cassie had struggled
with depression and a type of dissociative disorder when she
was in elementary in middle school as a result of
being in foster care for over a year. Wow. I
asked if Marie wanted me to alert the police, and

(25:29):
Marie said that she would do it. Okay. To Dakota's point,
we are now getting the uh, you know, the monkey
out of our circus. The pertinent parties are involved. Now,
pertinent parties are involved. As far as I know. The
police in my area and Cassie's hometown have been told
that she's missing and no of her current mental state.
Oh wow, now she's declared missing. Dude, this is the

(25:49):
ante is upping over here. After I spoke with Marie,
I took a long shower. I came out to find
miss calls from both Simon and Mail, as well as
one of our other friends, Shane. Shane is a gym
buddy of mine, an ex military. Simon has called him
to tell him and let him know what's going on,
and I called Shane back first. He was going over
to Simon and Males just to make sure everything was

(26:11):
all right, and he wanted me to come up with
him and spend the night there. I agreed, and I
called Mail back to make sure that she was all
right with that. She didn't answer, but Simon did, and
he was in agreement with us spending the night. Dude,
you know it would be the craziest plot twist ever
if Simon did end up with Cassie. Can you imagine? No,
that would be crazy. Nuh uh.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
That'd be like if you, like, Saron got the ring
at the end of the Lord of the Rings, that'd
be like he was just.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Like and they lost. I'm just saying he'd be crazy.
I packed up a bag Male's things and Cassie's laptop
and drove over to Simon to Males. She had just
gotten out of the shower as I arrived, and she
looked like she was definitely recovering. We settled into the
living room and I gave her the bag of what
was missing, which Simon put upstairs without her looking at it.
Shane and Simon spent a good portion of the night

(27:00):
playing Mario Kart with us, while Mail alternated between playing
and chatting with her maid of honor, Susie, but had
come over after Simon had told her what was going on.
Susie left at around ten, and afterwards Mail went to bed.
At around midnight, Shane and I decided to go to
bed as well. Simon went upstairs and while Shane went
to bed, immediately I opened Cassie's laptop. Aside from the pictures,

(27:23):
there was not much else there, and she hadn't logged
in on Facebook from her browser in so long that
it had been logged out and I couldn't access anything regardless,
but I gave up and went to bed. At around
three am in the morning, I heard a car door
slam shut outside It's her. It immediately woke me up
and I opened my eyes in time to see lights

(27:44):
flickering inside the window. I assumed this was someone's car
lights flashing when the lock button is pressed, but I
wasn't sure. I definitely heard footsteps on the wooden steps
leading up to the front porch, and that's when I
reached over and woke Shane up. Shane shut up and
turned on a floor lamp, and I heard whomever was
on the porch running back down the wooden steps. Shane

(28:06):
unlocked a door and threw it open, and we saw
a car speed out of the driveway and take off
down the road. I asked Shane what color the car was,
and he said he couldn't see it in the dark.
Simon and Mayle's road is not well lit, so we
closed the door and debated waking Simon up and calling
the police. Ultimately, we did not wake Simon up, but
Shane went outside to call the local department and ask

(28:29):
if they sent a couple of cars up and down
the road. Shane lied and said that he'd seen Cassie's
car in the driveway and while they said there wasn't
anything they could do. Not surprising, they'd have their cruisers
in the area start looking for her car, and they'd
said someone to patrol the condo area. Okay, maybe you know,
not much faith in anything happening, but maybe I.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Mean, it's possible if they were in her car, but
if they're not, then it's like it doesn't matter, and
then you're just gonna have the cops be like yeah,
I mean, I guess like next time costs when they're
here and it's like, well they were.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Sorry, I'll use my tractor beam to hold him in place.
Next time, it'd be one day we'll have teleporting police officers.
Maybe when they come fast, like nine one one of
the white neighborhoods. I don't know if it's good or bad.
Is that a Kanye bar? No, that's not no. Actually
it's probably the opposite of Kanye, which is J Cole. Yes.
So after everyone woke up this morning, I made breakfast

(29:25):
and mostly hung around talking and playing the occasional Mario karts.
Mail said that she was going to attempt to file
a report for theft of her things, but as she
had them back now, she wasn't sure if she could
file a report based on hearsay. We discussed her options
what she could do, and I relate that what Marie
had said about Cassie's mental state. Mail is more angry
than freaked out and seems to have her wits about her.

(29:46):
When I told her about the pictures, she just laughed
in disbelief and shook her head. She agreed that Cassie
was mentally ill and said that she hopes Cassie gets help,
but she would never come over to their home again,
and asked me to refrain from inviting her and side
into any event that Cassie would be at. They both
blocked her on social media and mail even deleted Twitter.
Simon's uncle is a police chief who works in another state,

(30:09):
and they are getting ready to call him after I left. Now.
When I got home later on, the apartment didn't look
like it had been visited by Cassie. I did a
walk through and nothing seemed missing or out of place.
So I then left around two to go to a
prior engagement. At around five, Marie called me again. She
said that she hadn't heard anything from Cassie and our

(30:29):
city's police hadn't seen her car. They were working on
getting the police to track her credit or debit card transactions.
Bank banks close early today in my country and won't
reopen till Tuesday due to a holiday, so it's been hard
to get a hold of anyone. Also, this is sounding
like Europe. Yeah, maybe it's maybe it's happening in France. Ooh,
could be in France. So it sounds like vaguely French

(30:50):
names male somewhat France. Male is France. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Look, honestly, at the end of the day, here, all
of this is like Cassie is. And I think maybe
this is why OP prefaced this whole story at the
beginning with like she was on medication in her youth
and all this stuff. Yeah, I forgot about my add
a history of mental health problems.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
I mean, honestly, Chef to mal, I think I think
her comment was was good, like, hey, I hope she
gets help, but I also need to, you know, protect myself.
And oh, she seemed very upset, and I promised her
that I would keep her updated if I heard anything.
Cassie's uncle will be driving into the city about four
hours away if they don't hear anything from her or
the police by tomorrow morning. Shane is staying over at

(31:38):
my apartment tonight, and aside from that, there's not much
else I can update with. I'll be changing the locks
tomorrow with his help, and at Shane's insistence, we child
proofed the doors with knives and kitchen utensils in them
to make sure they're more difficult to open. Update number two. Hey,
it's Sam' your og host here. Bring get back to
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(32:00):
First things first, Cassie has been found and is willingly
doing three days of psychiatric psychiatric inpatient evaluation. Okay, this
is positive progress. Yes, where do we find her? That
I hope in a good place. Maybe we're about to see.
To clarify a couple of things I saw brought up
in my last post, the goal was always to find Cassie.

(32:22):
I tried texting and calling Cassie a couple of times
a day since Thursday. Chane has known Cassie for almost
six years, and they have been and there have been
constant phone calls and messages back and forth with all
of our mutual friends. Some of them know the full
story and some don't, but we're all keeping an eye
out for her. Comments on the Internet are their own animal.
But I will say that while I was worried for
Cassie's safety, I also had a responsibility to Mail and

(32:45):
Simon to tell them what I knew and not keep
them in the dark. Mail and Simon are rightfully upset,
but I won't turn Cassie away if she chooses to
stay in town and live with me again. I don't
know about you, Dakoto, but I don't know if I
want to be living with Cassie right now. Yeah, it
would be totally understandable to be like, I can't live
with this person again right now.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
You can right away right now, not right away at
least right but yeah, me personally, I'm out.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Marie and George, Cassie's uncle, knew that I had her laptop.
I brought her laptop intending to check her Facebook messenger
history to see if she'd been communicating with anyone else
over Facebook. Marie knew that I was going to do this,
but it did work. As stated in my previous post,
after Shane and I woke up on Sunday, I had
an email for Marie saying that the uncle George would
be getting into town at around nine pm and he

(33:36):
wanted to meet with me at my apartment. I taxted
Cassie again and didn't get any sort of response. Games
at Simon and Mal's and males were on as usual,
and because of everything that happened, or it spread fast
despite our efforts. It seemed like a lot of people
wanted to take the opportunity to see them. There was
almost twenty people there. I don't know, man, that's it

(33:56):
feels like kind of a lot we're doing. We're doing
a lot, aren't we doing a lot? A little bit?
Which is how I ended up in the basement playing
board games. At around seven pm, A friend upstairs started
calling for me. When I went back up, she pointed
to my bag and told me that my phone had
been ringing constantly for the past five minutes. I fished
it out and I had three miss calls from another

(34:17):
from a number I didn't recognize but had our area code.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
I wonder who it could be. I'll give you a
one guess mmmm, Cassie. Yeah no, immediately stepped outside.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
And call back. We're gonna We're gonna get to the
bottom of it, okay. Without going into boring details of
the greetings, the number belonged to Elsie at least at
least I am you're overachieving a lease is Slash was
Cassie's long standing friend with benefits and is one of
a couple people that we know do not hang out
with people from the nerdy hipster group that they're a

(34:55):
part of. Elise had called me because of course people
had been talking. I CA I remember what the exact
conversation is, but it basically went like this, Elise is
Cassie in some kind of trouble. I heard this morning
that she tried to attack a girl. Me.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
No.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
She made some pretty weighty comments about a couple of
friends of ours, and when I asked for a proof,
she started crying and said that I didn't trust her
and that I was choosing them over her, and that
she was leaving to go stay with Chad. Elise what, No,
she's been here, Cassie's with me? Boom, Elise is Chad?
Oh No. I basically felt like a bomb had been

(35:30):
dropped into my stomach. Cassie had come over at around
two am on Thursday night slash Friday morning, as Elise
and her boyfriend were getting home. All Cassie told Elise
was that she'd had a nasty fight with me and
wanted to give it the weekend to cool off. Alise,
knowing how Cassie can get with her anxiety, didn't press
for any details. They spent Friday just hanging out and

(35:50):
took off to the mountains all day Saturday to go hiking.
I asked where Alise and her boyfriend were on Friday
night slash Saturday morning, and she said they'd basically smoked
and went to bed around on a Cassie didn't smoke
with them, but she did leave it around midnight to
grab donuts and other things from the store. At least
couldn't say if Cassie went to bed with them or not.
At this point, I asked where Cassie was now the

(36:12):
big the big reveal. She and Elise's boyfriend were picking
up dinner and she wanted to take the opportunity to
call me about what she'd heard while they were out.
I said that her uncle and aunt were insanely worried
about her, and the uncle was driving in town around
nine pm today. At least asked why he was in
town and why he was worried, and that is when

(36:33):
I told her the full store. Oh hell, lord, yup
getting crazy crazier than it already is. That's already pretty crazy.
Right As I ended, however, Alise told me that her
boyfriend and Cassie had just pulled up and continued, Oh
and to continue over text, we agreed at first to

(36:55):
meet at the wait wait wait wait yeah wait what
at least told me, oh that her Elise's boyfriend and
Cassie just built up. Okay, not yeah that was I
was like, is Chad real? Is Chad? Dude? Imagine if
Chad was like a carbon copy of Simon where we're
uncovering a global doppelganger conspiracy. Wow, this is this plot

(37:16):
goes deep. So over text. We agreed at first to
meet at a restaurant around ten, and then at lease
drastically changed it to her house, giving me the address
and telling me to come over as soon as possible.
She said it would be easier to keep Cassie in
than drag her out and possibly cause a scene in
a restaurant. After this, I went back inside, but it
was a bit hard to focus on the party. I

(37:36):
decided instead to step out and call the uncle George.
After greeting him formally introducing myself, I told him what
I just heard. He said that he'd been trying to text,
slash call Cassie as well, and he had gotten no response.
He sounded extremely relieved and a bit choked up when
I said that she was safe and staying with a friend.
I told him that Elis had agreed to keep Cassie

(37:58):
in and have us over so that way we could
talk to her, and he immediately agreed to that. I
went back inside and found Shane and another close friend
of Cassie's, and I pulled them aside to tell them everything.
By the time I was done, it was almost eight pm.
Shane and our friend both agreed that while they wanted
to go, it was probably best if it was just
me and Cassie's uncle, as they didn't really want to

(38:19):
embarrass or freak her out. I left the party thirty
minutes early to go get some coffee because I was
starting to get really nervous about confronting Cassie. At around
nine to fifteen ish, I parked on the street a
couple of houses away from Elisa's and I waited. I
saw a car pull up on the other side of
the street maybe five minutes later, and the uncle, George,
walked out and over to my car. After confirming it

(38:40):
was each other, he reintroduced himself and made a couple
of small jokes. I texted Lease to let her know
that we are there and he had and that he
had asked to go in first. I was more than
happy with that, and we rang the doorbell and then
Elise opened the door. Okay, Elise's house turned out to
be a foyer setup, which means the front door didn't

(39:01):
open up into the living room like I'd hoped. We
had to walk in and go down a hallway to
get to the living room. When George turned the corner,
I sort of stayed behind. I heard all of the
talking go silent, and I heard Cassie start. George immediately
walked into the living room, and when I finally turned
the corner, he was sitting on the couch with his

(39:21):
arm around her. Cassie eventually saw me and just started
buying harder. Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day,
you know, Cassie definitely has a strong mental illness, you know,
and I wonder if if under because it seems like
she was normal or like she was doing very well
before all this happened.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah, whatever, whatever the combo may be, it's uh, it's
gonna have to be strong. I don't know, it's like
this is it's you know, it was a lot, a lot,
a lot.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Of deception, a lot of obsession, none of it healthy. Yeah,
it's bad. You'd like channel let into a hobby at
least turn the TV off, and brought a chair out
there for me and all three of us. Alisa's boyfriend
was there, but was put in a very awkward position
and just stayed quietly firmly stated that we loved her

(40:13):
and cared for her, but that she needed to schedule
an appointment to see a psychiatrist. George took it a
step further and insisted that she sees someone now and
that he wanted to take her to the hospital downtown.
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Speaker 2 (40:38):
Dakota is that's where we are, that's right, and how
you find us full episodes with stories just like this
two thousand EPs said that part yet I hadn't, but
that's I just threw you under the bust over there.
I blacked out because someone in the chat said strong
mantail illness is crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
I was like, oh, that's not what I've said. I thought,
you know, I think I said that, So that's that's
that's that's that's directed to me with I said, whatever
she needs to address it is going to have to
be strong. I might have so strong mentally, Yeah, but
it's on me. Yeah, sometimes it is right, okay, all right,
boys and girls. So getting back to it, Cassie didn't

(41:17):
say anything for a long time. She mostly just nodded, cried,
and listened to us, and eventually verbally agreed with George.
Alice said that she's packing up Cassie's things and to
give them to me later, and that Cassie and George
could leave now if they wanted. Cassie turned to me
to ask about her car. I said, if that was
okay with her, someone to drive it back to the apartment.
She agreed to the keys out of her purse and
started crying again. George walked her out into his car.

(41:40):
I hadn't seen Cassie and George since Sunday, although both
George and Marie texted me back to thank me. Cassie's
living situation is still uncertain, but I hope i'll know
more tomorrow when she's released. Thanks for hearing me out.
It was nerve racking to go through it. That is
the end of this story. But I'm lying to you,
psych it's not the end because Riley has found I
did an updates for us to read more. Here we go,

(42:04):
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Me twenty nine female, in my roommate twenty six female
are in a really messed up situation. I'm starting to
feel the constant consequences of it. So Cassie went batty
over mail and Simon's engage in pictures, and they're excluding

(42:25):
her from the save the dates and the engagement party,
I would hope. So she's now living with her aunt
and uncle four hours away and cannot contact anyone. So
I'm not sure if I should be writing this update.
This entire thing, from the beginning to end, has been
one hundred percent fed up, and I am so exhausted
and my nerves are totally shot. I swim for endurance,
I do MMA, and I stick and I got sick

(42:47):
with an ear infection that started two weeks ago geez.
As such, I'd been working from home and when I
typed that last update. That was actually my first day
back into the office, and in rushing to get out
of the house, I left my effing phone at home.
I don't live far away from work, and I wasn't
planning on going out that night, so I just left
it at home, knowing that I could go back on
my lunch break if I wanted to get it. So
I got to work and it was really slow in

(43:09):
the morning for me, and that's when I type the
original post. My coworkers and I usually go to lunch
around one thirty as one of our peak times for workers.
During regular lunch hours, we have up to an hour
for lunch and normally we take all of it. So
we get back around two thirty and I'm almost immediately
calling another worker's desk help to fix the problem. When
I finally get back to my office, I see a

(43:29):
voicemail light on my phone flashing. The voicemail function is
so sparsely used with my clients I barely remembered my
pin and have to double check it. The message was
something like this, Hey, I'm looking for op. This is Simon.
Please call me on my cell phone. And again, this
is the Simon from before who Op not op, who

(43:51):
Uh Cassie. Cassie was obsessed with and you became his
his fiance very creepily. Yes, so my office is pretty
far removed from the rest of the circles, from the
cubicles but a store list. I do have my cell
phone with me, and while I was able to look
through the call history and write down a cell number,
I didn't want to be making a personal call from work.

(44:14):
I decided to go over to my boss James and
ask if I could run home and get my phone.
I vaguely explained the voicemail and say that someone might
be trying to get a hold of me urgently. He
says it's fine. I know it's kind of dickish of me.
But the second I got home and looked at my phone,
all I could think of was that I was going
to have to take two and a half hours of
PTO because there was no way I was getting back

(44:36):
to work. I had forty two unread text messages and
three call slashed voicemails. The text messages were mostly from
Simon and Shane, and I saw a Lease and Marie's
names mentioned as I scrolled, as well as another unmentioned friend.
I sat down and started with Simon. I scrolled up

(44:56):
from the first message, which was essentially Simon, I don't
know if you're we're aware, but Cassie attacked Mail. No,
I'd seen the mention of hospital in Shane's most recent message,
and I swear this is the first time in my life.
I felt like I was going to faint. I quickly
scrolled through Simon's messages. Basically, Cassie had attacked Mail in

(45:17):
a parking lot as she was leaving a restaurant with
her coworkers. She had grabbed a male's bun and and
her head got hit on the ground as male's co worker, Karen,
let's say, shoved Cassie away. Something happened, Simon didn't say,
and Cassie somehow gave Karen an orbital fracture. I know
what happened. Strong right, huh A strong right? Is what happened? Oh?

Speaker 2 (45:40):
I think needs to be in prison now. Yeah, these
are Cassie needs to go to prison.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
These are crimes. This is this is very, very dangerous.
A husband and wife ran over and apparently wrestled Cassie
to the ground with the other two co workers and
the police had been called. Both Mail and Karen had
been taken to the hospital. I immediately called Simon before checking
the rest of the messages, and he didn't answer. I
checked Shane's message next. Cassie had been arrested a couple

(46:08):
of counties over while Mail worked, Mail had been taken
to a hospital, and message call me a SAP. I
had only one message each from Malisa Marie, and both
were essentially hello, please call me. Marie's text message was
dated barely five minutes ago. I didn't want to call Marie.
I wanted nothing more than to never talk to Marie
and George again. I felt like I had failed them somehow.

(46:31):
I justified it at the time by saying that I
didn't have any facts yet and calling Marie wouldn't do
either of us any good. I called Shane has Staid,
and he almost immediately answered. He was still at work,
but on a long break, and he filled me in
with the rest of the story. Now, Shane and Cassie
are very close. They have known each other for over
six years and they have a pretty solid bond. Cassie
was upset of all things Mail and Simon's engagement photos

(46:54):
that had been posted at the end of June. That's
what triggered this whole thing. We were getting into her,
you know, a psych evaluation and getting her into a hospital,
and maybe well she might have access to a psych
evaluation in jail in whatever country she's in.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Look, and I'm not like over here like I love jail.
I'm pro jail.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
But it's like when you become like a physical like
danger to others.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Yes, in a way. That's not just like, oh, you
scraped my arm, it's like you could have ended my life. Yeah, literally,
time to go to jail. Whenever they texted or spoke
on the phone or went out for a midnight fast food,
she would bring it up. Shane's tried to steer the
conversation to other things, and she'd be okay for a
couple of days, but then a Cassie would bring it

(47:44):
up again. And one night a couple of weeks ago,
while they were at a late night burger slash shake
place with another friend, Cassie just stood up and left
out of the blue. After she didn't come back for
a couple of minutes, Shane and our friend went after her,
and she burst into tears. When Shane asked what was up.
It turns out that our friend and Shane's phones had
gone off at around the same time. It was a

(48:05):
Facebook message from Mail asking for addresses from everyone to
save the dates and engagement party invitations. Cassie had been
holding his phone and watching a video at the time.
Apparently he strongly suspects that that is what set her off.
She saw the wedding invitations come in and knew that A.
Simon was getting married, and of course she wasn't getting

(48:27):
an invite. Yeah, like Sophia says, Sophia, Collen says, she
needs rehabilitation. Like we It's a tough It's a tough
situation because will she like you know, can consent to it? Uh?
But can can we get her some help? Like that is?
This is what we need to avoid situations like what happened.
There wasn't much left to say after that, and we

(48:48):
promised to keep each other update. After I got off
the phone with Shane, at least almost immediately called me,
but I shuddled her to voicemail and I tried to
call Simon again. I didn't get an answer. I went
I went up to get in my car and go
back to work, and as I pulled out of my driveway,
Simon called me back. The call itself was pretty mundane.
He asked what I knew if I'd spoken with Shane.
I told him I did, and we discussed it briefly.

(49:10):
I asked how Cassie knew where Mail would be, and
he said that she told the police that she didn't,
and she'd been in the area and ended up in
the restaurant, the same restaurant as them, and had quote
unquote lost her mind when she saw Mail. Cassie and
I live almost thirty minutes away from where Mail works,
and while there's a lot of real cool shots in
the area, I've never heard Cassie say that she went

(49:30):
there before, so it's smelling like she didn't just happen
to be there.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Yeah, that's you don't just happen upon the message and
then you happen upon them at a restaurant, and then
you happen to send them both.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
To the hospital. That doesn't just happen. You wanted to
do this, That is right. He said that Mail is fine,
but has to stay in the hospital overnight because she
hit her head really hard, and Karen has a really
huge black eye, but probably would be discharged. By the evening,
Karen was currently talking to a police officer and he
was waiting for Mayl to get back from an exprey.
It was embarrassing to admit, but while I was on

(50:03):
the phone with him, I started crying. I apologized for
not being able to control Cassie's behavior, but because I
ultimately introduced Cassie to Mail and Simon's life the first place,
I understand that it's rational. Simon was very understanding. He
assured me that he and Mayl didn't blame me or
anything like that, and he made tentative plans to invite
me over that Sunday for coffee since games were pretty
much canceled for the week. I didn't end up going

(50:25):
back to work, and I did end up calling Marie
much later that evening. What I discussed with her is
probably not okay to type out, as it's currently an
active lawsuit and whatnot, So I mean, not a surprise,
but we've reached that point. Some details may be redacted.
I met with Simon and Mayle on Sunday and it
turned out to be an okay crowd. Shane wasn't able

(50:46):
to make it, but Susie and another coach friend of
ours was there, and Mayil insisted on normalcy, so we
all ended up having a really good time. Simon told
us about Labor Day plans, probably deliberately so I didn't
feel left out, and we made no mention Cassie. On Wednesday, Shane, Marie,
and George came over to move Cassie out. She's being
pulled out of her graduate program for now and is

(51:07):
living with Marie and George. I didn't see her at all.
Shane quietly told me that she went from jail to
Marie and George's hotel room and hasn't seen anyone. Marie
and George took her cell phone the laptop from her.
I helped her as much as I could before I
went to the gym, and Marie gave me a very
warm hug as I left. I'm honestly not sure how
much they know slash understand about what's going on, because

(51:29):
when I came back, there's a stack of papers on
the side table by the sofa. Some were just grad
school papers and flow charts, but a good majority of
them were printouts of Simon and Mayle's engagement photos.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
I don't know how you do deal with this, I
don't This is out of my tax bracket. Yeah, out
of my league, this is out of my area of expertise.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
I don't know what to do. My gut is telling me,
like she needs to be like and I don't know
if this will make her better. She's be locked in
a basement for six months. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
I fel like if you just purely isolate yourself from
the world and all of your triggers and you just
like dig.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Into your own like your own noodle up here.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Yeah, yeah, like maybe you can unlock the secret to
like changing your ways. And then of course, also like
you know, if you could get like real therapy and
like and actually work through it.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
I had My problem with that is I think she'd
probably be fibbin'. Yeah. We need we need like a
like a for lack of a better word, like hospital
level rehabilitation level psychiatrist. Yeah, that's going to really really
walk Cassie through again. It's I could be wrong. We
didn't get as much context, but it seemed like before
all this went down, she was, you know, operating well and.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
And Sofia Colone says Dakota, that's how you make people
get worse and get out to do worse things.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Yet, like I said, this is not I'm too This
is too much for me to know how to deal with. Yeah,
my instincts may be wrong. We are not the uh.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
But if I was her and I saw an alert
that then made me go into a rage, I'd be like, I.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Need to lock myself away for six months. Cassie's gone,
She's got a rough couple of months ahead of her,
and my friends have been paying so much attention to
me that it's almost annoying. This is the first night
since this BS went down and I've been able to
be by myself. I'm sorry I didn't respond to anyone
in the last posts, but honestly, I never really want
to log into this account again after this. Typing it
all out was cathartic because all my friends seem to

(53:30):
want to avoid the topic for now. I know they're
worried about hurting feelings or overstepping boundaries, and they're wonderful
in that sense. But sometimes girls just got event. Girls
just want to event, and girls they want to be
may may L. Girls just want to be may L. Yes,

(53:51):
so they get married. Simon, we are we are getting
the strongest hook cartoon pulling out. Ever so they plies,
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