My sister FLIRTED with my exes… so I’m keeping her away from my current one! | Reddit Stories - ok storytime

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
My sister flirted with my exes, so I'm keeping her
away from my current one.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
To cadkeep getting away with this.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
You won't get this one. This happened with every single
guy I've ever dated or been interested in. This happened
with every single guy I've dated or been interested in.
I've only had three relationships before my current one with John.
My twin sister, Sarah twenty two female has tried to
interfere with all of them. So twin sister. Oh, he's
also story too. By the way, this comes from throwaway

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sister and boyfriend. And if you want to submit your
own stories, go to r size. Okay, storytime se Breden,
So two of my exes cheated on me with her.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Are you sure they just didn't know what I'm sure
they didn't get confused. Yeah, she was like, Hi, I'm
a pee and they were like, I believe it? Or
why would you lie to me?

Speaker 1 (01:06):
The third we broke off for other reasons, but Sarah
still tried to seduce him. He was a good guy
and always had boundaries with her, but that didn't stop
her from trying to the point of sending him noodles
multiple times, then claiming whoop wrong person when that didn't work.
She also tried to break us up by lying to
my ex and mutual friends that I was cheating. My

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ex didn't believe her, but some friends did, so Yeah,
that was fun to deal with. Then, when we were
kids in like middle and high school, if Sarah found
out I had to crush, she went after the guy herself.
I used to tell her those things because well that's
what sisters do, right. She always used it against me.
I told her I was working up the courage, asked
my crush the guy I was talking to to prom

(01:50):
She then asked him and he said yes. She said
he'd been just using me to get to her. Another time,
a few years before that, she announced to everyone in
a class that we shared that I like this one
boy who got bullied a lot. Kids then started teasing
him even more and he hated me. I felt horrible
for months. She thought it was the funniest thing ever.

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She also once told a teacher whose class I was
doing bad in that I was into him and willing
to do favors for better grades. That got reported and
I had to go through this whole counseling thing before
it was finally cleared up. It was extremely embarrassing. My
sister just blew it off as a brank. There's so
many other situations like this. She either gets the guy

(02:32):
who are interested in me to sleep with her or
ruins my chances with him by making a BS to
make me look bad. She's ruined some of my friendships
lying about me too. Told my best friend in high
school I was gossiping meanly about her and went as
far as faking text messages. I don't know if she
even actually wants these people for herself. You might think

(02:53):
it's obviously jealousy. Sometimes I honestly think she just does it.
Today had a kick out of me with me. I
finally got my life more together after wasting the first
couple of years of college on being depressed and a gamer.
I met my boyfriend John at a campus organization. I
haven't told Sarah, but he ended up meeting my parents

(03:14):
by accident. Today. I don't have much contact with them,
but they decided to come for a surprise visit. They
live over five hours away and do this a few
times a semester, even though I said I don't like it.
But that's for another post. John was in my room
with me when they got here. I had no choice
but to introduce them. He knows I was holding it

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off on having them meet because I don't have the
greatest relationship with them. Sarah lives at home with my
parents while going to college Locally. I'm certain they're going
to mention my boyfriend to her and then cue her
on insisting on coming with them the next time they
surprise visit me also stocking my social media to trying
to figure out who he is. You can't keep it

(03:57):
from the world, though.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, I mean, you just have to warn them, say
my sister is.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Crazy, could you have a fake boyfriend? And then she
goes down that rabbit hole and gets trapped, and you.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Make a whole profile for him, and you set up
a whole LinkedIn for him, and then tricker.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Boom, I've tried to explain the situation I have with
her to my parents. They think I'm overreacting. They say,
she just wants to know what's going on in my
life to be involved.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
That's the problem. She wants to be involved.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yes, that's the problem, her involvement. And now to mention,
we used to be closer before I lost trust in
her to stop doing crap like this. So I've seen
what her own life is like. She does things my
parents have no idea of. She takes party substances. Sometimes
this wasn't be a big deal, but she has no
idea how to be responsible. She drives people around like

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wasted and high, and my parents think she's with a
friends studying on the weekends, but she's actually clubbing in
the city then crashes with their friends. I'm not sure
how many real boyfriends she's had, but she's hooked up
with a lot of guys in the same night she's
met them. This has meant a few times she was
scared of a pregnancy. I've had to help her get
a plan be it sometimes feels like she sleeps with

(05:13):
nearly any man that smiles at her and told me
she's even had spicy sleep with a few girls while wasted.
However that's possible. She confind all these things to me,
but whenever I need someone to talk to, she has
no time, never wants to hear anything unless she can
save it as ammo. So I've gradually stopped telling her

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most things. Smart If my parents knew all of this,
they might see where I'm coming from. But it's just
random that I don't want her meeting my boyfriend. It's
not because I want to hurt her or something. The
problem is our parents are really strict and traditional and
they probably pun her out. And if I told them
any of that, they don't believe spicy sleep before marriage.

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My boyfriend is the first person I've had spicy sleep with.
Afraid my sister could use that against me if she
tells them. So what do I do? How can I
keep Sarah from finding out about him and doing the
same thing she does with all my past boyfriends? How
do I explain this to my parents? And we got
an update?

Speaker 3 (06:14):
This is what you do. I don't believe in, Like,
I don't think you should go tell the parents. I
think that's like, obviously she's done terrible things, But I
don't we don't need to like out her, but we
go to her and we say, hey, Sarah, just thought
i'd heard you and you want to be involved in
my life. Just thought, you know, maybe our parents would
want to be more involved in your life. Maybe I

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could tell him a little bit about your life.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
And you got pictures ready to show and see Blackmailer.
That's what Casey lives at Blackmailer.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah, but I mean, like, you don't actually have to
do it, Like it's messed up if you knew it,
but you don't know it. She doesn't know that a
hunch little soft blackmail doesn't have to actually have any
follow through.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
But let's be real. Op's experience of blackmailing is level one,
and the sister Evil twinsis there's probably like level ninety nine.
She's maxed out. She's like, oh, you would have blackmailed me? Okay? Done?
Sence them like, uh, a crazy thing, and then they
don't support Opie anymore financially. Yeah. I don't know. Evil
Twin is gonna win this no matter what. She already
knows how to play the system, she's been playing it

(07:15):
for years. She's fine. Opie is new to this ball game.
She's gonna try and do something, and if it was like, okay.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Well maybe you could do kind of like a mutually
assured destruction kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Oh no, you know, like cold war evil twin is
gonna do anything that she can. So what's the solutionaire, Oh,
we're looking for solutions. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Like the black mail, Okay, black mail's not gonna work,
I don't think because.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
You can't go and tell the parents about that stuff.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
You might sit them down and tell the parents like,
I love you, guys, I really like this boyfriend, but
this is what's happened before. Yeah, with my past boyfriend.
She's always somehow stole them from me. And I would
really like it if you guys don't share it or
have her visit and you guys not visit anymore, keep
it to.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Just the information that like, is you about you?

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Okay, we got an update, Kean. What would you do?

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Just get rid of the twin?

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Oh? I haven't thought about that one yet.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Only there can only be one whoa update?

Speaker 1 (08:05):
So I've made a lot of changes in my family
life since I posted this a couple of weeks ago.
I first told everything to my boyfriend. He was shocked
and assured me he'd never cheat on me with my
sister or anyone else. He also respected that I didn't
want her to meet him. I decided to take the
advice and immediately block her own social media. She immediately noticed,

(08:26):
like within ten minutes after I blocked her, and she
sent a text saying, did you block me on Instagram
and Facebook? But didn't beat around the bush? I said
yes because I didn't like how she messed with my
personal relationships. She tried to guilt trip me about how
I hadn't told her about my boyfriend, which means my
parents must have told her about him, like I knew

(08:46):
they would. She exploded at me because according to her,
she would never have tried to stock him or anything.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
What like what I wouldn't stock him yet.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Also, it's like whenever people are like, did you cheat
on me? I didn't do anything physical. I didn't sleep
with them. I didn't do a doggy style.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
What do you think? We have a story the other
day that where the person was like, we didn't cheat,
we just did other stuff.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
It was like about cheatdy, Yeah, that's what it sounds like.
She's doing it, but I hadn't even gotten a chance
to say I was worried she'd do this. She said
it first, so what does that say exactly? I told
her I flowed out, didn't trust her not to try
and take people from me. She called me psycho and selfish.
I can't reason with her. She just never sees the
problem with anything she's done. The way she thinks makes

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it like arguing with a young child. Almost probably because
she's stuck there. I blocked her number. I still feel
kind of bad doing this, but what if there was
an emergency and she needed me? She can call your parents,
but we live hours apart, so I figured my parents, okay,
would be the ones who she would contact in that case, and.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
If she needed you, she should have treated you better.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Ooh, then ask for them. I also got a call
from my mom soon after I blocked my sister, who
wanted to know what I was doing because she was upset.
She had already heard my so easter side, which was
just that I blocked her out of nowhere or tried
to tell her my side. I did not tell her
my sister's personal business about substances and having spicy sleep
relations like I said I would in the first post.

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I'm not going to fall into petty revenge. I just
want her to stop interfering in my life. So all
I said was that in the past, she's been inappropriate
with guys I've dated and has spread rumors about me,
and it's made me unable to trust her. My mom
didn't wanted to know what I meant by inappropriate. My
parents are really conservative and don't believe in having spicy

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sleep before marriage. She also got my dad on a call.
At this point, I told them the details didn't matter.
She kept trying to go back to this point, even
wanting to know if I have been having pre marital
spicy sleep. It was really frustrating. I told them the
point I'm trying to make is that my sister has
broken my trust. They began saying I should forgive her

(10:54):
because they care about our family and didn't want to
see us fighting. Well, I'm not exactly fine. I'm simply
not going to be in contact with her. To them,
it's the same thing. I would also spell it out like, hey, Dad,
imagine if your brother tried to get with mom. How
would you feel about that?

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Do you feel about that? And how about if she succeeded.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, because that's happened to me three times already three times.
Not about to do that again.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
I can't keep doing this.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
They wanted me to come home for a weekend to
discuss everything as a family. I said I wasn't gonna
do that, that I've made my decision and I have
no time for a trip. They said they'd come to
me then that I brought up how they show up
for random visits when even when I don't like it.
I told them I didn't want them doing that anymore,
and if they did it again, I wouldn't let them

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in or talk with them. So they flipped out that
was fun. I had to hear all how I'm constantly
making problems and I don't care about my family.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Not fun. Bad times.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
I end up having to block their numbers because they
kept calling back and blocking on Facebook because they were
sending messages going back and forth between begging to talk
and accusing me of being a terrible daughter ancestor. I
don't know what the F I'm going to do about them.
They didn't threaten to stop paying for my college if
I cut them out of my life. I unblocked them
to say, I want to be in touch with them,

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and I do love them, but I can't do the
unexpected visits or them prying into my personal life. I said,
if they stopped doing that, then I'm happy to have
a relationship with them. They had a million reasons and
why I'm in the rock. I gonna deal with it
and reblock them yesterday. So I don't know what my
tuition deal is going to be now, but we know

(12:37):
what you can get for free without a tuition is
if you go to your favorite freaking podcast platform, search
up what phrase.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
For free okay, story time, and.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Boom, there will be a plethora of stories waiting for
you with no tuition. Heeded no education, he had no experience,
needed anything else. Before we have a little bit more,
I kind of want to see what happens.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, I just want to dive in.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
My boyfriend at least has been really supportive of me
during this crap. He thinks my parents are way out
of line, my sister's crazy. He's really helped me see
as a sane person as I can be. Overall, I
just feel really crappy. I wish any of them would
ever listen to what I say. But if they won't,
then what can I do besides put up with what
you all pointed out was really controlling, or take more

(13:20):
control back of myself. It just sucks. It has to
be so final. I guess I wouldn't mind a middle ground,
like planning a visit and then once in a while,
or talking with my sister about non personal things. But
they want to do way more than I do.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
You don't know the many information, especially not if they're
going to use it. Or I walked in on my
sister and husband's betrayal. It ruined everything.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Just close your eyes.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Then I am absolutely devastated. Yet right now I don't
know what to do. I don't even know where to start.
My sister Lisa lost her husband, Jimmy, two years ago
in a motorcycle accident. She did not take it while
and closed herself off from the world. A year ago,
she reached out to us and told us she was
having a hard time adjusting and said that she needed help.

(14:08):
I helped her find a good therapist and she has
been getting her life back on track. By the way,
this comes from Mistress Whiskers, and if you want to
spit your own story, go to the yard slash okay,
storytime separate. So my husband Rick felt bad for her
and started spending a lot of time with her. For
the past six months, they have spent more and more

(14:29):
time together. At first, I was fine with it because
she was finally becoming like my sister again. She started smiling.
I was so happy for her, and so was my husband.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yep, because he was pumping life into her.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
They started spending more time alone from me, which I
didn't think much of at first. Then they started spending
more and more time alone, and I got jealous. I
told my husband I would like it if we could
spend more time together, and that I was feeling a
little neglected. He said, okay, but nothing changed.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
He got confused because you guys look the same, and
he's like, I'm not really sure. I don't, but I am, though,
I am spending a lot more time with you.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Today, my sister came to my house crying because she
had a dream about Jimmy. My husband and I comforted her,
but I was a little annoyed because the second I
let her in my house, she ran into my husband's arms.
We all went into the living room and sat down.
My husband asked her what happened in the dream, and
she actually asked me to leave the room because she
didn't feel comfortable telling me. I was so upset at

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this point I immediately left and started tearing up in
the other room. I was in the other room for
around ten minutes when I heard a loud sound in
the living room, so I got up and went there.
I could not believe what I saw. I'm literally crying
my eyes out while typing this. They were effing making
out on my couch in our home. What the f
do I do? My entire efing world has just been

(15:50):
shattered in front of my very eyes. I ran out
of the room because I was going to vomit right there,
and locked myself in my room. My husband hasn't even
tried to come in. I've been trying NonStop. Please help
the two people I trusted more than anything. What the
heck do I do at it?

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Well?

Speaker 3 (16:08):
I answered the door. Rick walked in wouldn't even look
at me. He mumbled something and went and sat on
the bed. I was so angry that he wouldn't even
look at me that I almost left right there. I
asked him what the heck was going on with him
and my sister. He sat there for a few minutes
without saying anything while I was crying my eyes out,
until I finally yelled at him to answer me. He

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whispered that he loved her. At this point I lost it.
I started yelling, how could he do this to me?
Did these past ten years mean nothing to him? I
literally dropped to my knees and asked how he could
betray me with my own sister and then tell me
he loves her. He was quiet the entire time until
I stopped yelling. He said that he had been regretting

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not experimenting with other women before we got married, and
that he shouldn't have married the first girl he was with,
so he hooked up with the second girl he saw.
He was, I don't know, like, your sister's right there
and she's grieving. I was stunned and asked if he
even loved me. He said yes, but that after spending
time with my sister, he realizes she's who he wants

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to be with. I had no words. I didn't have
any clue what to say. All my life was falling
apart in front of my eyes, and I was scared.
I told him I might be pregnant. Is that true?
And he said that he would support me. I asked how,
and he said he didn't know, but that he was
leaving me to go be with my sister.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Sorry. Whenever she said I might be pregnant, it just
felt like Kelly while she was trying to get it,
because because we had no like ramp up to this
and just like all of a sudden happened, not like
we were trying for a baby.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Yeah no, I tell you why if I might be
pregnant and he's like, I don't care. He apologized to
me and told me I deserve better than him and
that he will do whatever he can to help me
and the baby. If I agree to divorce him, he
will give me everything he just wants out of our marriage.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
All right, you're moving on.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
I'm gonna take the house. I'm gonna take all of
our money. I'm gonna take this. I guess child don't want.
At least she'll still see him around holidays. If your
parents aren't super against this, I'm gonna flip. In that moment,
I felt like I hated him and never wanted to
see him again. So I screamed at him, Fine, just
get the f out, you ruin my life. I hope
you're effing happy, you piece of crap. And then he

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had the audacity to try and hug me. I flipped
out and pushed him off of me. Someone knocked on
the door. Then he told me that he still loved
me and we would figure everything out and left. I
decided to call my parents and tell them what happened.
My mom dropped a bombshell on me that my sister
told her that she had feelings for my husband and

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that she wanted to be with him.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Mom, give a girl the warning.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Oh man, on your whole family side.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Your mom was probably like, I just didn't want to
kid to see where we met the I don't know.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
I I'm retired, I didn't want to have got trouble.
Why she didn't tell me this, I have no efing clue,
but I feel like everyone is against me Right now.
I am sitting on the computer looking at lawyers in
my area. My entire life has gone to shambles within hours,
and I'm terrified real quick if.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
I got somehow in the situation, would you tell me
or vice versa, would you tell my brothers? Please answer?
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
I just gotta check real. I gotta know, gotta get
on the same page with her. Tomorrow, I'm going to
go get a pregnancy test. I just hope to effing
god I'm not pregnant, because I do not want to
have this piece of craps baby. God, guys, I am
so effing upset right now. I want effing drink right now,
but I won't in case I am pregnant and there
is an update.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
You got any thoughts, Kellen, what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (19:32):
Oh? So my entire famili's against me. My sister betrayed me.
My husband betrayed me too. I'm going to.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Mexico, bros. Going to Kancoo.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
Yeah, home is not home anymore. So I am getting
far away from this place.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Good into Europe, and I'm starting a new life.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah, exactly, just a new life. There's no point of
trying to try and reprimand this or try and get back.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
There's no point. This isn't like a conversation's gotta fix
something like these people don't care, you know, there's nothing
to be curious about. Overreach, So he was trying to
steal my foot rest Like, do you have any other friends?

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Because your mom doesn't like you?

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Your mom's going to be like, oh no, oh, p
don't understand. She loved them.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
It's just her way of healing.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, like she was grieving. You have to have grace.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Your husband was putting life in her.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
It's really just the godly thing to do. There is
an update. I woke up this morning and felt like
complete crap and didn't want to get up. I went
and got a pregnancy test, and thank effing God, I'm
not pregnant. It was bittersweet because we have been trying
to get pregnant for a while now, and I never
thought i'd be so glad to see I wasn't pregnant. See,
the husband was just trying to increase the chances that
you guys would have a child related to you. I

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am really upset over the way things have turned out,
and now I'm having these weird feelings that I want
to be pregnant after all. I don't know what's going on,
but it's just adding on another difficult layer of crap.
A little while later, I left the house to get
groceries and when I opened my mailbox there was a
letter in it from Lisa. After I got home, I
opened it and read it. I'm not going to rewrite

(21:04):
it because I can't even stand to look at the
letter again. But basically it said that she apologizes for
how things turn out. And she explained to me that
she was very vulnerable after losing her husband, that after
spending so much time with my husband, she started to
fall for him, and that she thought she wouldn't ever
love anyone else again. So when she realized she loved

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my husband, she knew she couldn't let him go. No
one else can fill the hole in her heart. Lisa
promised they never physically did anything before that kiss. I
caught them in and she went on to say she
needs me in her life and that she hopes I
can forgive her. I can't write any more about this
right now. I might add in the rest later. I
am an efing mess. Rick called me a little while ago.

(21:46):
I didn't pick up the phone, so he texted me
and told me that he still loves me and that
we can find a way to work this out.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Literally, didn't you say earlier you loved the sister. Now
you can't make up your mind?

Speaker 5 (21:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Usually, Oh no, I can I have both of you.
It's not fair, it's not how it works. I don't
know what theF that means since he just left me
for Lisa. Now I'm really confused because now that I'm
not pregnant, I want to be and I want my
marriage to not be over, even though I hate him
for what he's done to me.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Didn't she says she don't want to get pit pregnant.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Well, that's what she's saying. She's like, Oh, like, now
that I'm no, I'm not pregnant, I want to be pregnant.
But you're having a lot of mixed feelings because you
want to be in the relationship that you thought that
you were in. That's the thing.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
I'm so mixed up in all this. Everyone's like, I
don't want to be with you. I want to be
with you. I don't want to be pregnant. I want
to be pregnant.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
It's not that she doesn't want to be pregnant with
her cheating husband, but she wants to have the husband
that she thought she had and have the kid that
she was supposed to have. So she's missing this life
that she thought she was going to And why would
he text me that? Is he changing his mind? I'm
so confused. It doesn't matter don't go back to this man.
He cheated on you. I wish these past few days
never happened so there would be nothing wrong. Still, I

(22:53):
know I shouldn't forgive him if he wants another chance,
but ten years of marriage. Nope, no, no, you don't
have a kid. You don't have a kid yet, Lee,
he said he would give you everything. Leave we were
going to be parents. If I'm so confused and hurt,
I can't even think straight. And there is a second update.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Man, this poor girl look.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Like truly, I honestly think you should move. I think
you should like move countries, start over. You know it
doesn't always work for people, but I think that's because
you know, people go there thinking that it's gonna be perfect,
but then realize that they left their support system. You
don't have a supports system here.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, your support system hates you.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Your support system sucks. Go make a new one in
some other country and and start over there. You got
your whole life out of you. How old is you
go like you're you know you're fine man twenty nine?
Yeah you're fine. Don't like, don't live in the sunk
cost fallacy of Yeah, oh, I've spent ten years with him.
We were supposed to have a baby. You didn't have

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a baby.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
You're too young.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
You know you're not tied to him in any way,
so just get out ikes update two. One of the
most common questions I got was about my mother. Well,
I talk to my mother again and she informed me
that she has known about my sister having a thing
for my husband for quite some time. She didn't want
to tell me because she said she was trying to
get my sister to give up the idea and she
did not want me to be hurt. She got my

(24:13):
sister to agree to let it go a few months
ago and never heard anything more about it, so she
thought it was over okay, so at least she did
try to prevent it. In the letter I got in
the mail, I did not want to write it all
down because it was very painful. A few days have
passed and I'm ready to share some more information, but
please don't ask for more because I'm simply not comfortable
sharing the rest of the letter. In the letter, Lisa

(24:34):
apologized for her behavior, but also went on to blame
me and said that I flaunted my happiness in front
of her with my husband. She wrote that she couldn't
stand to see how happy we were and how he
genuinely loved me, and she had no one. She told
me I should have reached out to her alone, and
that I had no business getting my husband involved. I
don't even know what that is supposed to mean. He's

(24:55):
my dang husband. I'm not supposed to involve him in
a serious matter like that. She also went on to
say that my husband told her he never really loved
me and that she was who he really wanted to
be with, and asked me not to contact him. She
wants me to go through her if I want to
say anything to him, and that she will bring over
the divorce papers in a few weeks. The audacity of

(25:16):
this woman, the audacity of her to be like, oh, yeah,
you can't talk to your husband. I know he's still
legally your husband, but I'm kind of his lawyer right now.
I'm gonna be managing the divorce papers, So if you
could just not talk to him, just talk to me.
I'd be like, Uh, nope, you can talk my lawyer
ain't talking to me.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah, so frustrating.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
I've had a few days to process this information, But
the more I think about it, the more confusing, it
seems to me. Then I got more information today Lisa
is pregnant.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
No no, no, no, no, nohing.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Pregnant, she says. It's Ricks recalled me as soon as
he heard my father inform me. I picked up the
phone only because I wanted to hear how he could
lie to my face and tell me nothing happened between
them before that kiss. Of course, something happened between them
before that kiss. While your wife is in the other room,
you don't just start making out. He tried. That was
the first time.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
He tripped and fell on her face.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
With his face he told me that he was so
sorry and he didn't want it to happen this way.
And then my father wasn't supposed to tell me. I
started crying and asking him how he could get pregnant
with Lisa when we were trying for a baby. Then
he said something that stunned me so much my head
is still spinning from it. Rick told me he could
still give me pregnant if I wanted. DOUBTF, I screamed,

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and him, why the f would I want to be
pregnant with his child?

Speaker 1 (26:35):
What?

Speaker 3 (26:35):
He's a piece of crap? He told me he wanted
to be with both me and my sister, and that
he thinks he's polyamorous. I was so shocked that I
started laughing. After I stopped laughing, he tried to say
something else. Then I heard Lisa enter the room and
ask who he was on the phone with. He said
nobody and hung on a little later, my sister texted
me and told me she would bring over the divorce

(26:57):
papers in a week and expected me to sign them
on the spot, as my husband is giving me everything.
She gave me a heads up that they're getting married
next month and I'm invited to the wedding if I
agree to pretend like I was never even romantically involved
with my husband. I am literally at such a loss
right now. Who the F is this man? And where
is the one I'm married? Why the F after all

(27:18):
this crap, do I still want to be with him?
Even though I know I can't be. I just want
the man I've been with for the past ten years back.
I hate Lisa and no longer consider her my sister.
She has ruined my entire life. But what do I
do about my husband? He just texted me right now
saying he still wants to be with me. Loves me
and wants a baby with me. Why is he doing
this to me? Why am I even considering it? F

(27:41):
And there is a third update.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
I have a lot to say about this, actually, and
I think we should both be on screen while I
say this. How does this guy think it's gonna work out?
He's like, Okay, so I'll go you, okay, go with
the sister. And then with the sister. I'm gonna do this,
this and this, and then after that I'm gonna go
over here and this is in this, and then I'm
gonna marry the sister. But then I'm also gonna let

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o pino, oh, I can still still make pricknant, still
be your baby daddy.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
And then maybe every couple of years, I'll divorce the
other sister and then marry you, and then I'll divorce
you and then married the sister so that we can
just kind of keep going. Yeah, I think that should work.
They're all stupid.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
They're all stupid. I kind of see where the mom's
coming from, Like she wanted it to be like fizzle out,
but like that happened. You gotta I don't know. It's
just if you don't tell someone, it buils up into this.
That's like a little bit your fault.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Mom.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Can he get like that the thing is so quick
and get married that quickly?

Speaker 3 (28:37):
No, from what I know, it'd be a little bit longer.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah, how do we not see this happening earlier too?
I'd love to see a picture of this couple, Yeah,
and love to see I want to see all of them.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
But uh, there is an update, man, update three. I
know this update is long overdue. Yeah, I have to
wait one second, to be honest. The reason why I
did an update anymore, it was because I made pretty
poor decisions that I was ashamed of. Please don't tell
me you got back, and didn't want to face the
reality of my situation. I wish I could come here
and tell you all that I was strong and cut
Rick and Lisa out of my life and moved on

(29:09):
with my life, updating to tell you how much better
off I am without them a year later. Sadly, this
is not the case. I effed up bad. One commoner
told me that I have something called sad person brain.
I remember reading it and being in denial, but now
that so much time has passed, this was absolutely the truth.
I wanted to do anything to make my pain stop,
so I did. I would appreciate it if I didn't

(29:31):
get reamed for the choices I made. What's done is done,
and I need help now. Thank you in advance. If
you remember my last post, Rick and I were trying
to get pregnant before he left for my sister, and
wanted to even after he did, because he thought he
might be polyamorous. At the time, I laughed at him
because of how absurd it was, But after he hung
up that call, the offer got more and more tempting.

(29:51):
I started thinking about it, becoming enraged at my sister
for doing what she did to me. I thought that
I could get back at her by doing it to her,
throwing it in her face that her new boyfriend doesn't
love her more than me. After all, I was so
angry that I heavily considered doing it. The more I
thought about it, the more I wanted to out of
sheer petty revenge.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Oh goodness, gracious, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
I also wanted my husband in my life back, but
the thought of seeing my sister's new found happiness and
smugness over me come crashing down gave me a pleasure
that I never would have imagined. My sister tried very
hard to keep my contact with Rick limited. I think
she was afraid he would come back to me if
she didn't.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
You lose out.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
You get him.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
They related and I cheat him to your sister. Wait wait,
they're related and they recently lost a husband. Yep.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
She was only able to accomplish this for a few months.
Rick try to contact me in numerous ways during this time,
but it was always very brief. I was still angry
and non receptive to his advances, but he started becoming
more and more aggressive, telling me how much he loved me,
how much he missed me, how much he still wanted me.
I even tried blocking him on certain social media accounts,

(31:00):
but he kept trying on others. I know I should
have just blocked him on everything, but I just couldn't.
The more he tried, the harder it was for me
to say no. Unfortunately, this resulted in us getting back together.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Oh Pee, you knew there's more people in the world though,
he O, P what does this guy look like? He
probably looks like that, but you know what, rats have
long tail.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
I told him I wouldn't stay with him unless he
left my sister He swore to me up and down.
He loved me more than anything, and facing losing me
made him realize it and that my sister was nothing
to him. Everything was amazing between us again. It was
like old times, and like my sister didn't even exist
when he was with me, Yet every night would go
back to her. Stupidly, I decided to believe him when
he said he was just waiting for the right time,

(31:44):
an excuse after excuse about how bad he felt for
things felt so much better when he was back with me.
I didn't want to lose him again. Unfortunately, I ended
up getting pregnant because I did not recontinue my birth
control from when we were trying for a child before
any of this happened. You are messy.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
You know what probably happened. This guy got this loved
on him, and these women are just obsessed.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
But it only works on Ope and people that Opie
is related to.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Whoever he's around, the women he's around more Mom, stay away,
stay away Mom.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
At the time, we were both ecstatic and everything seemed
like it was a dream come true. I had my
husband back, we were having a child, and my life
was no longer in Piece's Girl he's still actively seeing
your sister. Did this erase everything?

Speaker 6 (32:29):
I'm so confused.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
I was so happy that I turned a blind eye
to everything obviously effed up about the situation. I didn't
want to see it. I just wanted to stay happy.
It wasn't long before Lisa found out. My entire family
turned on me.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
How did that happen? But I'm so confused. Is everyone like,
oh yeah, did they get you mixed up? Do you
guys look the same?

Speaker 5 (32:50):
Like?

Speaker 1 (32:51):
What is happening here?

Speaker 3 (32:52):
My parents told me how it seemed like I did
this just out of retaliation and to hurt Lisa. Oh boy,
what about when Lisa did it? They weren't completely wrong,
but I mainly just wanted my old life back. Long
story short, Lisa went absolutely berserk. She sent me a
long list of never ending pestering texts, emails, and calls.
I endured heck from her and my family for months

(33:13):
until I had to get a protective order. This only
resulted in my family hating me even more. Now none
of them will speak to me, and Rick has been
issued an ultimatum by them to cut me off or
be cut off.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
Like I said, we're going to Mexico. They should have
been done along. I didn't leave a long time ago.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
He hasn't decided on what he's gonna do yet, but
it seems like he's leaning towards cutting me off, as
he's been communicating with me less and less these past weeks.
Not to mention, there has been mounting pressure from the
family for him to finalize the divorce, but it hasn't
happened for various reasons. I'm sorry your parents are mad
at you for sleeping with your husband legally still your husband,

(33:51):
clearly the golden child. Yikes, that was true. The last
thing he told me was that he feels bad, but
that he loves her, and passive aggressively insinuated that I
tempted into trying to get back with me. This is
a night there which is complete bs because he was
the one who kept pursuing me. He said that I
shouldn't have gotten pregnant because now I've made his life
so much harder. How I let myself believe he was

(34:13):
the man I married again is beyond me. Now. All
I see is how clouded my judgment is men and
the utter mess I've gotten myself into.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
She has thought with the wrong head.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
How I wanted to be happy again so bad I
destroyed my life even more trying to get that back.
I'm eight months pregnant and scared. I don't know how
I can raise this baby alone. I really don't want
to give her up for adoption, and the pain of
losing my husband twice is unbearable. Even though I know
it was because of my own stupidity, I still love
him and can't believe everything he's done to me. Losing

(34:47):
my entire family over this has also been a huge
punt to me when I'm at rock bottom. Most of
our mutual friends have distanced themselves from us because no
one wants to take sides, but it's obvious they are
all quite disgusted with the way things have turned out.
I have no one left now. Please help me? Reddit,
How the heck can I fix the mess I've made
my life into? And that is the end of that story.

(35:09):
But you know what can fix your lives? Listening to
full episodes of stories just like this?

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Where do I go to Spotify.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Apple Podcasts or iHeartRadio Riley?

Speaker 1 (35:20):
What do I search up?

Speaker 6 (35:20):
So?

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Story time is silly?

Speaker 6 (35:22):
Use?

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Oh wow? And what's there for me so.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Many stories just like this. I don't know if I
can fix this.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
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Speaker 3 (35:42):
My friend didn't make me her bridesmaid. I feel betrayed.

Speaker 6 (35:45):
Ooh, betrayed as a me.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
I'm getting married in June. I'm going to have my
friend Jim as my dude of honor and my friend
Jane as my bridesmaid. Jim and I have been friends
since college, but my friendship with Jane is longer and
a bit more complicated.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
By the way.

Speaker 5 (35:59):
This comes from a wedding a throw ten ninety two
and if you want to submit your own stories, go
to the our slash Okay storytime subreddit. We started to
be friends in high school, where we were friends with
two other girls. They'll be important later typical teenager and
twenty something drama happened and I'm not close with the
two other girls anymore. One straight up said that she
didn't want to be friends with me anymore, and I
guess the other friend just followed her lead. I'll admit

(36:20):
that Jane and I used to be closer when we
were younger, and we drifted apart, but I still considered
her a close friend. When I got engaged, I asked
Jane to be my bridesmaid. When I got engaged, I
asked Jane to be my bridesmaid. When I asked, she
was kind of hesitant. She was engaged too, and said
that we'd probably be planning weddings at the same time,
and she was worried that she wouldn't be able to
devote a lot of time to my wedding. I told

(36:41):
her it was going to be super laid back and
she wouldn't have to do too much, and that I
wanted her there, so she agreed. Planning the wedding has
had its own ups and downs, lots of drama from family,
but Jane has been a good enough bridesmaid. My friend
Jim has been planning my bachelorette and they both went
to see me get my veil. I think she could
stand to be a bit more involved, but can distance
and time.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
She's doing enough.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
When Jane first got engaged, she wasn't even sure if
she wanted to have a traditional wedding. She was talking
about doing something really small and only inviting immediate family
and close friends. It turns out that she actually is
going to have a ceremony and reception in the fall.
I awkwardly found out over dinner after pushing her for
wedding details, that she was planning on having bridesmaids and
I wasn't one of them.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
She claimed it was because I live far away. Not really.

Speaker 5 (37:25):
We live in different cities on the East Coast and
are about a train ride away, and she didn't want
to bother me because I'd be busy with my wedding
and merit. To make matters worse, the two girls I
had a falling out with are of course in the wedding.
It hurts so much since I assumed that we'd all
be together during our weddings.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
I'm hurt.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
Jane and I went through a lot together and I
really wanted her to be a part of my wedding.
I'm hurt that she doesn't feel the same way. When
I told my mom, she was shocked and said how
rude Jane was. My fiance said it was okay to
feel hurt and that it was a wiener move, but
that Jane also has a right to have whoever she
wants in her wedding party. Am I wrong for feeling
like this? Should I confront her? I don't even know

(38:03):
if I want her in my wedding anymore. We do
have an update, But what are our thoughts so far?

Speaker 1 (38:08):
I mean, I think you can.

Speaker 7 (38:09):
I wouldn't say you're an a hole for feeling anything.
You know, Yeah, it's it's just more like it's hard.
You're not in the same city and you know you guys.
I think it's just a discussion. You got to communicate
you and be like, all right, so what's what's up.
Like she's kind of told you why you're not a bridesmaid,
but like, maybe dig a little deeper under it.

Speaker 6 (38:30):
It's hard to say, but like I would say, you're
an a hole.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
But we do have an update, So I wanted to
update because things have blown up. This is going to
be long. I found out about not being in the
wedding a little over a week ago, so I had
been stewing for a while when I made my last post.
I was a little dishonest in the first post because
I was already in the process of confronting her when
I wrote it. I texted her early in the morning.
I posted and told her that I was disappointed by

(38:54):
her lack of involvement in my wedding. She replied that
she was sorry that I felt hurt, but that she
had warned me about this when I.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
First asked her. That is true.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
She also mentioned that she wasn't sure what else I
wanted from her. She has done everything I asked, and
that it seemed like Jim has everything handled for the
bachelorette and hasn't reached out to her. Then I texted
her about bridesmaids. She didn't text me back all day,
so I called.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Her that evening.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
The conversation really didn't go well. She said that she
didn't reply because she was busy at work and honestly
didn't know what to say. She said that she chose
the people closest to her. She has also known the
two friends I had fallen out with since childhood, and
her other two are her college roommate and her other
friend from work she lived with in the past. She
said that even when wedding details were murky, she knew

(39:37):
that she'd ask them. I told her that I had
always envisioned all of us planning our weddings together and
being left out of it was all pretty painful.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Her reply hurt.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
She said that she was sorry that I was no
longer friends with the two bridesmaids and her party. She
truly wishes me no ill will from the past, but
that they have their own valid reasons for ending our friendship.
Then she said that she was honestly surprised that I
asked her to be a part of my wedding and
that she wouldn't have I've been surprised.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
If she didn't even get an invite.

Speaker 5 (40:02):
I spoke to my therapist the next day about she
pretty much echoed what people said here, and I was
putting way too much pressure on Jane and was inappropriately
using her wedding as a friend reunion. Oh In, my
fiance and I got into a huge fight about the wedding.
I texted Jane after and she was nice and listened
to me rant, but it felt awkward. On top of
it all, I got to see her post a lovely

(40:23):
Instagram story about shopping for her wedding dress with all
of her bridesmaids and getting drinks after.

Speaker 7 (40:28):
So the read I'm getting off of this is you're
just kind of upset that your friend's wedding is happening.

Speaker 6 (40:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
Yeah, I think it's like, I think maybe this friendship
breakup thing was maybe recent, and maybe Op's not over
it and not accepting of it just yet. And yeah,
she probably was hoping like maybe maybe things will get
better once they like hang out with me again, because
she was the one like that was dropped. Everyone said

(40:58):
that they didn't want to be friends with her, so
she probably is feeling a little abandoned there. I am
so over weddings. I wish I was eloping. I'm a
little jealous that Jane seems to be having an awesome
time planning hers. Making friends in your thirties is tough,
but I thought I had a few close ones I
could rely on. But I guess I was wrong. So
thanks Reddit, you tried to warm me, but I was

(41:18):
already set on being the a hole when I posted
my advice to people upset about bridesmaids and groomsmen, don't
question their choices and accept whatever role that they want
you to play in their wedding. And Opie answered some
questions why they fell out with two bridesmaids. Honestly, it
was a bunch of dumb teenage and twenty something drama. Essentially,
I moved to a city around the same time one
of my friends was living there. I got involved in

(41:39):
her friend group and some guy she liked ended up
liking me more. We dated, but he was clinging and
got weird when I broke up with him, and after
that the group kind of imploded and everyone blamed me.
After my one friend said that she no longer wouldn't
be in her life, the other one followed. I was
supposed to grab dinner with her one day and she
delayed because she was hanging out with the one that
hates me. I told her to forget it all and
that she didn't have to see me if she didn't

(42:01):
want to. I'll admit I was a bit dramatic in
the past, but I've grown up a lot, and I
had hoped that we could kind of forgive and forget.
We all used to be so close, and I miss
their friendship. But we do have another update. I picked
someone who thought I was a close friend to be
my bridesmaid. She's done what she's been asked to do,
but hasn't gone above and beyond to do anything extra.
She's also getting married later this year. I'm invited, but

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I'm not a bridesmaid. To make matters worse, two people
I had a falling out with are in her wedding.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
We were all friends in high school.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
We're all in very early thirties now, and it hurts
that they're all still friends and I'm being excluded. I
had a big session with my therapist yesterday and I
realized that I had kind of strong armed her into
doing this.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
She tried to say no, that she would be too.

Speaker 5 (42:41):
Busy on her own wedding to give me the time
and attention I needed, but I convinced her that it
would be fine and that I wanted her to be
a big part of my day. I think that she's
an effing adult and could have said no, But.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
What do I know. I'll admit I thought we were
closer than we actually are in real life.

Speaker 7 (42:56):
I'm sorry, you literally just went from My therapist told
me it helped me understand that I actually strong armed
this person. Yeah, and then in the next breath, being like, well,
she's an effing adult.

Speaker 6 (43:08):
She could say no exactly, well yeah, but you.

Speaker 7 (43:10):
Kind of strong armed her yeah, and harangued her into
saying yes.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
I think that's a difficult situation because like, sure, she
is an adult, she could say no even like no
matter how pushy you are. But sometimes if people are
pushy enough, you don't want to be.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
Rude because it's your wedding.

Speaker 7 (43:28):
It's the reality of politic in like any given social situation.
And it's like, all this tells me is this keeps reading.
It's like OPI is like, how did all of this
happen to me? Like, meanwhile, a lot of the things
are direct results of OPI's actions.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
Yeah, I'll admit I thought we were closer than we
actually are in real life. We were really close in
high school but drifted apart after college. I still considered
her a close friend even though we didn't talk much.
I just feel like now she is this whole life
without me, with all of these friends, and I'm left
in the dust. Even seeing her bridal party makes me jealous.
I feel like I didn't know who to ask, and
she has four best friends that are bending over backwards

(44:03):
for her. My friend posted this super cute Instagram story
about her shopping with her friends for her dress and
celebrating after her I got so upset I cried and
threw my phone across the room. I'm angry as heck
at her and want to pun her out of the
bridal party. I feel betrayed and used, but I don't
know who else I would ask. I don't have a
lot of friends, and my maid of honor is my
guy friend from college. Why are bridesmaids even a thing?

(44:26):
The whole idea is designed to make drama and hurt
everyone's feelings.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
On top of it all, planning the wedding has been
in a nightmare.

Speaker 5 (44:33):
My parents, who are divorced, are using it as an
excuse to try to outdo each other. My fiance's family
is dysfunctional and don't like me much. His mom is
a control freak and planned everyone else's wedding and she's
trying to do the same for mine. We keep arguing
about the wedding and had a huge blow up about
it yesterday. We're pouring so much money into this wedding
and I can't wait for it to be over. Can
someone make me feel better post about their wedding drama

(44:55):
and how everything worked out in the end. I'm at
the end of my rope. My wedding is in less
than two months and I'm not excited about it at all,
and we have.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
Yet another updates.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Let's freaking go.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
But do we How do we make her feel better?
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (45:09):
You need to adjust your expectations.

Speaker 7 (45:12):
Yeah, and you know I suggest this to every single
person who gets married. I have a secret wedding first,
and then have your big wedding. That's expensive. Yeah, so
if it all starts going wrong, you don't have to
worry about your marriage being ruined because you already had
a beautiful wedding just the two of you.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
When she said something about wishing that she could have lope,
I immediately thought about that that you would say secret wedding.

Speaker 6 (45:37):
It is something I would say.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
But we have another update.

Speaker 5 (45:40):
Hey, y'all, I don't know if anyone remembers my Reddit
meltdown from a month ago, but I've been getting some
nice messages in my inbox asking me for an update.
The truth is that not a lot has changed. I'm
still kind of miserable about the wedding. Things with my
bridesmaids are awkward, to say the least. I'm kind of
embarrassed about how everything went out, and now I feel
like she's kind of keeping me at a distance. She
has her dress and has been good with updating me

(46:01):
on her outfit and day of stuff, and texts to
chat about how planning is going, but she's been tight
lipped about her What If I ask her anything, she
just says it's going good and leaves it at that.
To make things worse, She's in full bride mode with
her friends, and I keep seeing Instagram stories pop up
with cute planning details. It's hard to not feel extremely jealous,
left out, and angry when I see her making bouquets

(46:22):
with her friends and chatting about taco bars for the reception.
I don't want to say that that fight ruined our friendship,
because it's clear that we just aren't that close anymore,
but I really wish that I had just kept my
mouth shut. My fiance extended family is driving me nuts.
They're asking about bringing plus ones when we're almost a
month out from the wedding. I'm so pissed because I
think it's rude to even ask, and that if it

(46:43):
really was that important, they should have brought it up
to me when they first learned about the wedding. My
fiance also doesn't like to talk to me about the
wedding anymore. He says that whenever I bring something up,
we end up fighting, so he'd rather just stop talking
about it period. I know his family is pissing him
off too, but he refuses to confront them in any way.
He just says that this is the way that they
are and that I need to learn how to deal with.
So here, I am about a month out for my

(47:04):
wedding with pretty much zero enthusiasm for it. Things are
awkward with my bridesmaid, my new family is pissing me off,
and my fiance has pretty much shut down and refuses
to deal with anything. I guess I updated because I
just wanted a place to ramp. Does anyone have any
advice on how to not make my friend's wedding hurt
me so much? Any stories about my weddings that weren't
the magical days that they thought they were, tips for

(47:26):
dealing with fiances that refuse to deal with their insane families.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
But we have yet another update on this.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
Some of you may remember me from a thread that
I post to here a while back about being upset
over not being a bridesmaid. My wedding has come and
gone beautiful day despite some drama and hiccups.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
But my friends is coming up and I have a
new problem.

Speaker 6 (47:46):
Oh joy.

Speaker 5 (47:47):
The two women I'm no longer friends with are obviously
planning her bridal shower and I'm invited. Interesting when I
saw my old friend's name on the invite she's handling RSVPs,
I panic a little bit. I called my friend and
bridesmaid to make sure that it was okay for me
to come. She said, of course, and that she didn't
anticipate any drama.

Speaker 6 (48:04):
So this is my again.

Speaker 7 (48:06):
It's like Op's like, this was all high school like
early twenties drama.

Speaker 6 (48:10):
Now they're in their early thirties.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (48:12):
Meanwhile, Op's calling and saying, is it okay if I come?
That is high school early twenties activities? Yeah, just go.
Yeah that phone call and be like it's gonna be
is there abrupt day?

Speaker 5 (48:25):
There's gonna be drama. Yeah, It's like, well, now there is.
If you're gonna go about it this way, then.

Speaker 6 (48:31):
You're setting the stage for it. Just be an adult
and go exactly.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
She claimed that the two friends really had no ill
will about what happened and that the day should be fun.
There will be a lot of other people there to
hang out with, and it should be a good time.
I asked if she thought that I should reach out
to clear the air beforehand. She said it wasn't necessary.
I asked her if she thought that it was a
bad idea. She just repeated that it wasn't needed. I
was feeling really anxious about it, so I decided to
text both of the fhenh oh, my god.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Ob. She just said, you didn't need to do that,
ob doing my guy, My guy.

Speaker 7 (49:02):
You're like, I don't want it to be dramatic, and
then meanwhile you do the most dramatic thing you could do.

Speaker 6 (49:07):
Yeah, she's making it weird when it doesn't need to be.

Speaker 5 (49:10):
I said that I was married now and was excited
to reconnect and that I hoped that we could put
all of our differences aside and be together for the
bride and celebrator. They responded with general glad you can come.
Can't wait to celebrate the bride, and I was a
little hurt.

Speaker 6 (49:22):
God, dang it, oh pe stop it.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
I had hoped for something that was more reassuring that
the day would be okay and that there would be
no weirdness. When I told my husband how I felt.
He was shocked that I even texted them.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
He claimed it felt like that message was actually trying
to stir up drama exactly.

Speaker 5 (49:37):
Yeah, Yeah, I don't think what I said was inappropriate
or rude. I don't want my friend's day to be
ruined because of some petty drama, and I don't want
to feel uncomfortable during that girl.

Speaker 7 (49:47):
It wasn't inappropriate or rude. It was just weird, that's
all it was. It was weird. And it's not that
you're trying to make it an issue again.

Speaker 6 (49:55):
It's that you've brought all that back up to the
surface again.

Speaker 5 (49:58):
And what I'm realizing too is if she's saying it's
high school early twenties drama, then it definitely didn't happen recently.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
If they're in their early thirty right, this happened a
while ago.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
So if it's if so much time has passed, you
should maybe be like, from what I'm assuming.

Speaker 7 (50:14):
I'm she could be saying that. She could also be
saying like the nature of it was very high school.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Maybe, but it's like you are also in control of that.

Speaker 7 (50:22):
Yeah, honestly, So not to put you on blast, but
you were making a lot of poor decisions right now,
ye just making things chill.

Speaker 5 (50:32):
Yeah, it's been hard enough seeing my friends post about
all of the wedding fun that she's having. I just
didn't want to walk into a bad situation. So Reddit's
Am I the a hole for setting those texts? And
do we have an answer for that.

Speaker 7 (50:44):
Kind of I mean not even you're not even a whole,
You're just you're just goofy.

Speaker 5 (50:49):
Hey, you're just a goose. You're being an a hole
to yourself. I feel not being a hole to them
at all, because it's not really anything.

Speaker 7 (50:56):
Bad, but yeah, it's it's like it comes from this
place of like, you know, you keep being an a
hold to yourself because you expect these things to happen,
where it's like you sent this thing where clearly I
guess they don't really care anymore.

Speaker 6 (51:10):
Maybe they might not care anymore, and you're worry.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
That they're like, you know, harboring all this stuff.

Speaker 7 (51:15):
So you bring it up and it's like they don't
care and you expected them to be like, oh my god,
thank you for reaching out. It's so great that you
said that. And it's like we are we're moving on
and we love you, and it's like, you know your
expectations will set you up for disappointment exactly.

Speaker 5 (51:28):
Like, even if they do care a little bit, I
think they just still decided that they don't want to
be friends.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
They're fine with that. You need to be too, because
I don't know, out of your control. They invited you
to the shower. Yeah, that's huge, that's huge.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
But you know what would be huge of you to
do is to check us out on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio,
or whatever your favorite podcast op is. Just search Okay
Storytime and you can find full episodes with more stories
just like this one.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
There is a little bit more. I'm just gonna jump
right into it.

Speaker 5 (51:58):
There's a relevant comment from Okay. My husband thought it
was over the top. He said that the tone I
took made it seem like they somehow weren't there to
celebrate the bride when they're her bridesmaids, and that I
was making the event about myself tbh. My friend and
bridesmaid has become a bit of a sore spot for
the two of us. He's glad that she was a
good bridesmaid and helped out a lot of the day

(52:18):
of but he thinks that I'm trying too hard to
be best friends.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
It's not like I don't have other friends.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
I just really missed the way things were in high
school and feel like I'm missing out on having deep and.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Meaningful friendships with a history. There are some comments.

Speaker 5 (52:31):
Commentary number one says, I feel like there's a lot
more to the story of why she's no longer part
of her old friend group, and honestly, she sounds exhausting.
I feel a bit bad for her, though, as she's
obviously lonely, and someone else responds she says she used
to be dramatic, but it is clear that she is
still dramatic and over the top a f Another person responds,
I thought she was super young reading this, but she's
in her thirties wishing for her high school friendships. Another

(52:54):
comment term says her line she's an adult, so she
could have said no to me about the wedding if
she didn't want to be a part of it. Makes
me wonder if she has said something like he's his
own person and can make his own choices about who
he has feelings for. After flirting with the guy that
her friend had a big crush on, someone responds to that.
In the same paragraph, she mentions the friend was having

(53:14):
a soft no the whole time, and op would not
take note for an answer, So she admits that she
did strong arm her, but in the next sentence puts
blame on her bridesmaid again. She literally cannot hold herself
accountable for her part in the situation. Op doesn't really
know how to take personal responsibility for anything. In my opinion,
this whole saga reeks of playing the victim in that,
and I'm positive there is important information that would have.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Better illustrated that left out.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
Someone else comments, Jesus, the Opie sounds so ridiculously exhausting.
Someone responds to that after the second update, I was thinking, girl,
take the hit and cut your losses already, but it
wasn't even a hint at that point. Secondhand pity was
off the charts. Another comment says this is so infuriating
to read because Opie gets so close to acknowledging that
her behavior is the and then just goes and keeps

(54:01):
doing it anyway, and then proceeds to ask the Internet
why everyone has fed up with her. That's a great
way to summarize that, but that is the end of
that story is.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
The end of Oh my gosh.

Speaker 6 (54:13):
Sometimes to cut your losses, you really do.

Speaker 5 (54:15):
If she she's in her thirties and wants it to
be like it was in high school, listen, I don't know.
I probably I don't want to blame you, I guess
for wedding things to be how they were. But that's
a long time. That's a long time to be, you know,
hoping for the past. So I'm sorry you feel like
you need to be that far in the past to
feel okay right now.

Speaker 7 (54:36):
But bless about being in the past and where it's
like having these friendships and connections that have lasted so long.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Well, yeah, people want that.

Speaker 5 (54:44):
So that's what I'm thinking, is like, I don't blame
you for wedding, like you know, that strong connection that
you had in the past, but this specific one is
in the past.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
You gotta leave it there.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Hey, y'all, it's John og Host here. We're gonna get
back to the stories.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
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Speaker 1 (55:01):
I refuse to have animals the side of my home.
My friend got offended.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Why are you krilla, devil or something?

Speaker 1 (55:07):
I don't like dogs. I never have been fond of them,
but I don't judge people who have dogs as long
as they are responsible. Have a group of friends and
we host events at our house like parties, potlucks, game nights,
et cetera. About two months ago, my friend got a
service dogs for her seizures and I was already planning
on hosting a potluck. However, I didn't want a dog
at my house. She shed a lot, so I decided

(55:29):
to choose a camping area where we could all have
fun and enjoy ourselves. It would be so messed up
to deny my friend from coming over with the dog
that she needs. By the way, this comes from walker
Walk at a and if you want to make your
own stories, go to our slash okay stories on sebredding.
So this has been going on ever since my friend
let's call her Sarah, got a service dog. Today was
my turn to host, and one of my friends let's

(55:50):
call him Jacob, suggested we do a game night. I
told him that I would rather have events outside of
my house, and well, we don't have anything to connect
my ps four outside suggests maybe we could do a
movie night instead and go out to the movies. Jacob
was confused and asked why I stopped doing game nights
at my house, and I explained that I don't want animals.
I'm sorry, I said pets. That was wrong on me.

(56:11):
I didn't catch that in my house, let alone a
dog that sheds knowing batter than I. But Sarah started
to question me, asking if she's no longer welcomed in
my house. I'm an ablest, and I told her I
would rather host things outside of my house. If she
is going to need a service dog. The times we
all spin together are arranged in advance. I chose to
do things away from my house so I wouldn't have

(56:32):
to have the service dog in my house. If I
had the type of arrangement that meant coming over to
my house, I would make myself put up with a
hairy situation. But I don't have to do this current arrangement.
Sarah was not having it and started calling me an
ablest and unfair to her and her dog. She said,
I've changed ever since she got her service dog, and
I was baffled by everything she was saying. We ended

(56:55):
up not hosting anything, but it ended up being so
awkward that everyone started to leave the group call honestly
can't tell if I should be shamed of myself? Am
I the a hole at IT? Cause I explained it horribly.
I want to thank Agreeable League three sixty six for
allowing me to use their comment to clear out the
confusion I cost for a lot of people. See the
comments below At IT two, I'm seeing several comments saying

(57:16):
I should have told her beforehand. The thought of telling
her that she and her dog aren't welcomed anymore therefore
no one else in the group is just feels mean.
But if anyone has suggestions on how I can word
or future references, please feel free to do so. And
I think we got Agreeable League's three six six's comment here.
My friends only come over if I'm hosting something, But
if they did come over to my house to just

(57:37):
hang out, then yeah, I put up with a service
dog in my house. I think this is what was
causing a lot of the confusion people are having. It's
like saying, if if she came over to hang I'd
let the dog in instead. I believe you mean that
the times you all spend together are arranged in advance,
so you can choose to do things away from your house.
So you don't have to have the dog in your house.
If you had a different type of relationship, you wouldn't

(57:59):
make yourself put up with a hairy situation, but you
don't have to in your current type of relationship. Wow,
I just made that as clear as mud didn't. I
you're right, it's hard to put into words anyway. If
you don't want a dog in your house, you don't
have to. It seems like it's putting a strain on
your relationship. Though maybe from how you worded it, combined
with some new behavior you are exhibiting without realizing it

(58:22):
that she has picked up on, she's become offended, not
the a hole. You might need one on one with
her to fix your relationship, just not at your house
because a dog would have to come too.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
I listen, honestly thinking about that a lot more.

Speaker 8 (58:35):
I feel like, oh, P isn't really doing anything crazy wrong,
you know, like he's not saying we can't hang out
anymore because now you have a dog and I don't
want your dog around.

Speaker 5 (58:46):
They're saying like, yeah, let's still do these group hangouts.
I would just prefer to not have a dog in
my house, so let's just do it somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
You know, Like that's that seems perfectly acceptable.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Because I mean planning it in advance.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
Yeah, and if this is usually like the host house,
like I don't know, I get how that can probably
feel uncomfortable, as was it Sarah that had the dog,
That can probably feel uncomfortable being like, oh, it's because
of me that we can't go to this house anymore.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
That would feel bad.

Speaker 5 (59:12):
So I maybe just a conversation with her one on one.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Yeah, we got an update throwaway here because people know
my regular account. I'm honestly still shocked about everything that
has happened. All was fine for a couple of days
or so, thought. Sarah showed up uninvited. Never happened before,
and I don't like uninvited guests, but I let decide
this one time because she was my friend with her
service dog, Golden Retriever and what I believe her mom's

(59:37):
regular pet husky mix. So she brought two dogs. The
husky was panting and trying to jump on me, but
I would back away and slightly hold the door closed
while poking my head out for now, Sarah was holding
back from his collar. Keyword for now, I asked, her
what's up, and she said she wanted to drop off
some cookies for me. I smiled and thanked her because
I thought it was nice. She even made them herself.

(59:58):
She said she also wanted to pick up something that
Ed part of the friend group off a were left here,
like a keychain or small decoration. I'll call it a
keychain because it looked like a keychain to me. Ed
lives the farthest, so supposedly Sarah came over to pick
it up for him and give it to him on
the day she hosts. What was her turn? I told
her sure and asked how it looked. She walks around
with both of the dogs, and I stopped her and asked, whoa, whoa, whoa,

(01:00:20):
what are you doing. She looked at me confused and said,
I'm gonna get Ed's keychain. I told her if she
wanted to personally get it herself, she cannot bring the
big dog inside, only her service dog, so take that
dog outside. She made a frowny face and said he's
an emotional support dog. I told her that it is
not the same and that I won't allow him inside.
She pouted and said fine, just let me text ed

(01:00:42):
and let him know, it'll take a little longer from there,
she said, both of her leashes down and her husky
went bonkers. Needed to say, I punted her out, and
her mom's dog made a whole mess, including jumping on
me and licking my face. I still can't get over
the fact that he broke the vase my mother, who
was no longer with us, gave me. It was so beautiful.
I've had it for twelve years. Sarah apologized, and I

(01:01:03):
got her the key chain, which I could have easily
brought her over and give it to ed that leaned
around for a bit and took a shower. At night,
I decided to snack on the cookie and a heck
broke loose for a while. After eating him like I ate,
like ten effing, started to swell up and struggle to breathe.
So I went to look for my EpiPen I haven't
used it in a long time, but my dumb butt
cann't remember where I put it. But when I did,

(01:01:25):
I used it immediately and added to the hospital in
case my allergy stayed once the epipines were off.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Oh my gosh, she poisoned him.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Oh my gosh, this woman, dude what.

Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
I'm gonna give her the benefit of the doubt and
hope that it's an accident.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
No, if they've been friends for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Come on, okay, okay, okay, before we keep going one
and you know I don't like it whenever you have
you bring your dogs to my house because you know
which is husky. He's very hairy, and I don't like it.
And you also know I have a peanut allergy. So
you come over to my house with both dogs around,
and you give me peanut cookies, course of course, And
you're giving her the benefit of the doubt right now.

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
Maybe she doesn't know about the allergyw You literally said
they've been friends for a while.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Well, I know that's why I'm part of me. I
want to believe that this is a mistake, that she
didn't just straight up poison.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Ope, No, there was malicious intent. It's a key chain, yeah, yeah,
a keychaine.

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
Well she didn't just stay outside, yeah, and just wait
for him to get it or her. We don't actually
know a peace gender, but I wish that she just
would wait.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
I got home with my medication and another EpiPen, which
I would bring with me at all times from now
on after that traumatic nightmare. As upset as I was
about Sarah being cold to me for even bringing her
mom's emotional support dog to my house, I said, gave
her the benefit of the doubt and thought she forgot
that I had a nut allergy. I brought it up
in text and told her what happened. She apologized and

(01:02:52):
act all mortified. Conversation later shifted when she mentioned the
whole wine. Can't I come in with my dogs?

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
You literally try to kill me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Like we've talked about this so many times.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
I repeated to her that her service dog can come in,
not a pet dog. Became an argument. She dropped a
bomb on me with a huge wall of text. In
the end, she said, and I quote copy paste, this
is why I put pecans in your effing cookies. If
you want to play ablest, then so will I. Oh
smiley face.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Oh my gosh. She did do it on purpose.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
And by the way, you will be an ablest if
you don't go to your favorite podcast platform type in
Okay story time and look at all the stories we
have for you. Don't be an ablest like this, you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Guy, You can't accuse them that.

Speaker 6 (01:03:35):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
To me, it is the same anyways.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Do it anyway?

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
But can we.

Speaker 5 (01:03:40):
Sue Oh my gosh, yeah, honestly, like at least like
she went to the hospital, you could sue for hospital bills.
We've got text proof that she was doing this on
purpose and totally lying about it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Yeah, And it sounds like Opie's got a little touch
of OCD here from what I've seen. I mean maybe
I know they don't like dog hair.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
I don't know, but well, I mean you could just
like I'm just.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Throwing stuff out of here. I'm I can't diagnose anybody. Yeah, actually,
you know what I want to Now, I'm diagnosed and
okay with this. So it's a respect thing. And and
it seems like he's gone above and beyond to accommodate
this person to be a part of the Frank group
even though he's not comfortable with the dog in their house.
This person is just throwing big words around that aren't real.

Speaker 5 (01:04:24):
Yeah, like she they had this whole conversation about him
not wanting like the dogs at all in his apartment,
and then you know, she was like a ablest, you know,
had that whole fight, and then it sounds like eventually
now he's come around and he's like, you know what, fine,
like your pet dog can come in. I understand that,
Like I I respect you and your disability and what

(01:04:45):
you need to support that and everything. Just know, like
pet dog like that's that's the the only service dog. Yeah,
the only reason it's allowed is because it's a you
need it. You know, you don't need an emotional support
pet dog like this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Last little bit here a bit of content. Sarah was
diagnosed with BPD. Please be aware that not everyone with
BPD is like this, so I understand how she feels
because I have BPD myself. This has gone way too far.
I've been contemplating on whether I should file claims or not,
and I know that sounds stupid. We've been friends since

(01:05:18):
middle slash high school, so of course she knows. But
I've always seen her as a really close sister. But
this friend wanted to harm me, and I heard so
much that she went this far for revenge. Anyways, I'm
taking legal action tomorrow and maybe I'll give an update
about this, but as of now, I got screenshots and
have blocked her everywhere, and I'm still keeping a low
profile so she doesn't delete the messages.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
Hopefully, what my gosh, yeah, please do. I really would
love to know. Oh my god, my god, because she
didn't even try to harm you.

Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
She did, she absolutely did. She literally came in with
the poison apple. It was like, hello, little lady, like
you can I give you this apple for being such
a sweet kind princess. Turns out that old Lady was
actually the evil Witch or the evil Queen.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
So what the heck? Man?

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
This account has been suspended.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
What

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