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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My disrespectful in laws always ruined special moments, so I
went no contact with him.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm just going to ruin all of the specialness here
with my presence.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Ever talk to you again. We went to my in
laws for Christmas Eve, and we were there with them
on Christmas and the day after Christmas. I have a
ten month old. On Christmas Eve, I noticed my sister
in law's three year old had a bad cold mukisi cough, sneezing,
runny nose TMI. I told my husband I was worried
my daughter would get sick, and he said, no, it's okay.

(00:33):
They wouldn't bring him around if he was contagious.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Did you just TMI cold symptoms?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
You know what I did, John Hayes, I don't care.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
And you know what else? I see you in the
comments because I see something that is about to happen. Okay,
just get it, get it in there, fat pupil alert.
By the way, this comes from painting lilies. And if
you want to submit your own stories, go to suburnt
or slash ookie start time sent him in. Well. He
was all up in my daughter's face the whole night,

(01:02):
touching her toys that she puts in her mouth. Oh God,
oh dear. Three days later, my daughter comes down with
oh Dakota, wouldn't you guess the same symptoms? He the
same ones? Why do you get my kids sick?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Come on? Come on? And right soon after, so do I?
Now I have the symptoms. And I already said it
wasn't team.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
But that's the rule of law. Your child is sick,
now you are sick.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
It's just that's just how that's this life. That's the rules,
make the rules. We're both pretty sick right now, and
it is super scary dealing with a sick baby. I
am also pretty mad because I paid a lot of
money for a new gym training program I am starting
tomorrow and I need to be in good health, which
I am not today. My sister in law asked how

(01:49):
we are feeling, and I was honest and I said
not good. I asked her if she could please let
us know the next time we are going to be
together if her kids have a cold. Well. She got
so offended and told me that her kids aren't sick,
and that they weren't sick at all when we saw them,
and that it was all in my mind. It was
just an afigment of my imaginations.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
All an elaborate illusion, unjured by a court.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Just a but these sneezes are real. This she not
is real. Yes, this cough is real.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
You can't deny the reality. Don't do that.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
It's real.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
She told me that no one else is sick, so
obviously it wasn't her kid. She told me that, if anything,
I put her at risk. She's pregnant because my daughter
obviously was coming down with something. WHOA down with the sickness,
down with the sickness. That's so crazy. Your kid was
sick and now you're gaslighting them so hard, Like, no, actually,
your kid's about to get us sick.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, sounds like a real Alex Hirshman type move.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
You're not dude, You're not wrong. We love you, you're
not wrong.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
You come, we.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
All get down with the sickness, and not in the
fun rock kind of way.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
He did come last week, and I think everyone's fine.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
True, it's it's it's over. I loved how we It
happened twice and he was like, I'm pretty sure I
didn't do that, to be fair, twice in a row Man.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
That's no. It was like a week in a row.
I still love you, al we still love you. The
stigma will forever stay. It's just it's just what we
do on this show is what it is. We we
badger lovingly. You're your emoji is the journey. Oh god,
that idea. I'm sorry that was too bad. But side note,
when I was pregnant last year, we went to dinner
for her birthday and her kids were sick, which they

(03:34):
didn't tell me about. So this has happened before, and
I ended up being sick while eight months pregnant for
two whole weeks, so this isn't the first time. So
she told me that it's my fault because I go
to the gym, and I shouldn't go to the gym
if I care about my family, and I should live
in isolation with my daughter for the rest of our lives.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Wow, that's that seems like a drastic, responsible statement.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
I mean, I'm guessing OPI is infantilizing a language, but basically, like,
why are you spending why are you not spending time
with your kids? It's like, bro, I gotta let me
just like work out like an hour a week. I
need something something, man. By the way, I have a
class I go to with the same six people and
we have our own equipment. None of those people are

(04:19):
sick or have been sick, so they're not any patient,
zeros or anything. I normally wouldn't have said anything, but
I'm just really sick, pun intended of being walked all
over by these people, and they blatantly put my daughter
at risk, knowing she's so little, just because they didn't
want to be alone on Christmas. I'm just selfish in
my opinion. Then she tries to gaslight me and makes

(04:39):
me think that I'm crazy and I'm making things up.
Even my husband confirmed that his nephew was sick. It's
so sad that I can't have a mature, open conversation
with this person her own sister in law. I don't
want to ever see these people again. Low and we
have some comments on that. Hitting the law after that
is wild. I don't ever want to see these people again.
Ha ah oh well look see random so comment ter

(05:04):
number one response to that colds are contagious one hundred
percent of the time, regardless of fever, age, days, sick,
et cetera. I did not know this until recently. My
sister in law rugged her sick kids all over the
place visiting. Oh, oh, probably, let's say dragged my sister
in law brought her sick kids all over the place

(05:24):
visiting relatives. I said, no, Plus, the poor kids are miserable,
Opie replied. My sister in law thinks that because she
and her husband aren't sick means that her kid isn't contagious.
But I'm pretty sure parents build up certain immunity.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Right.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Her son is in daycare and is always sick.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, just because one person doesn't get sick doesn't mean
person number two ain't gonna get it.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Some people get sick really easily, and some people have
a crazy immune system. It just depends on the person.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
My dad's one of those people with the crazy immune system.
It's annoying of an ox.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, like like a turbo ox. He cannot he does
not get sick. Turbo sick OX does not get sick.
Turbo sick ox is immune sis. The nine thousand people that's.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
My dad Turbo sick ox.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Well, turbo sick oxes aside, we have an update going
back to that last sentence, which was I don't want
to ever see these people again, begs the question Dakota,
should we go no contact over this? I would like
a poll if we could, please no contacts or not.
I'm curious what chat and Commas has to say. Please
let me please share your thoughts, Dakota, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 2 (06:24):
I mean, i'd probably say, like, don't initiate contact, probably
don't just.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Like do a hard cut off.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Clearly, it's like they just like have very limited ability
to think outside of themselves. Yeah, but it's like, you know,
you're kinda stuck with them in a way. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
It's like I think just like a really direct conversation
can be had.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
I feel like you were kind of you kind of
like disrespected me, Yeah, by just like completely ignoring everything
that I said. Yep, and then exactly what I didn't
want to happen happened. And I feel like, now you're like, well,
that's not even my fault. Hello, knock knock. It is
the It's like, let's acknowledge that.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
So you're you're already on the side of no contact.
I'm gonna push you even further in that direction. This
is Opie's sister in law, right, not the sister. And
we've said many timess like a good general rule of thumb,
perhaps a John and Dakota Golden rule. Some maybe they
say that generally, let the person who's directly related deal

(07:23):
with the family. Yeah, right, So I think it's her. Also,
I do like the direct conversation. I think she absolutely
should like she should be the one directly talking with
sister in law. But then also it's like, hey, husband,
this is your sister. She's getting our kid six, she's
getting me six, she's spending my boundaries. Can can we
maybe team effort here talk to her because like, this
is your sister at the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, I think the team efforts good because it's I mean,
the husband wasn't really involved in the initial conversation that
led to the you know, complete disregard of her wishes. Yea.
So it's like in that context, it's like it makes
sense for op to have that direct talk. Maybe having
the back up there of like the direct check your
mad brother your sister may like I would say, try
to just sort it out between two of you first,

(08:07):
and if she's still just like completely empty skuld here,
it's like, I husband, talk to your sister because I tried.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
She won't hear a word I say.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
I like that. I like direct communication first and then
try to loop in a husband if we need reinforcement. Yeah, yeah,
but we might be going to contact. We're going to
find out in this update. So update hyll. I wrote
a post about a month ago about how we went
to a Christmas dinner at my in law's house with
my temithal baby and my sister in law didn't tell
us that her kid had a cough and a running nose,

(08:36):
and he ended up getting my daughter really sick. When
I called my sister in law out on it, a
few days after, she got really mean towards me, I
texted her and told her I would appreciate it if
she could next time tell me her kid was sick
before we went over. This way we could decide if
we wanted to risk it or not. She got so
mad at me and told me that I'm a horrible
person and that her kids weren't sick and I should

(08:56):
just isolate myself and not leave my house for the
rest of my life. She told me that I shouldn't
go to the gym at all if I cared about
my family, which is insanity. Bro, you should go to
the gym if you care about your family, because you're
gonna be your best, healthiest self to care for your family.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
I feel like the in law, the sister in law
is just saying this because she's like, well, I guess
if you're so afraid of germs, if I felt like
getting sick of such a big deal, do you, why
don't you just never leave your house? If you really
love your family, you wouldn't even go.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
To the gym.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Why don't you live in a box with padlocks on
it and breathe.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Through straw and never do anything in your life.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, seems like just take a little be like, oops, okay, yeah,
I'm sorry I got your kids sick?

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yes, all she said. She didn't even say like it
wasn't like he's like, oh, I'm never gonna come around
you if you kids sick. Against Like, hey, if you
could just like let us know and then you know,
we might still go, but we just like to know
so we can kind of like make the decision. Yeah.
And I just didn't respond to her because I thought
it was really uncalled for, and she hurt me. She
hasn't reached out since she wrote this all about a
month ago, and I obviously haven't either it, because why

(09:59):
would I want to be around a person like that.
I feel that every time I forgive her and I
start to let her into my life again, she gets
mad at me for something and then throws whatever I
shared at her in my face, Like this time, I
was so happy about getting back to the gym and
feeling like myself again, and she threw it in my face. Now,
my daughter's first birthday party is coming up this weekend,

(10:20):
and my father in law told my husband that I
need to go and resolve this issue with his sister.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Loel Bro, how about check your daughter?

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Right?

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Come on, dude, about what do you mean I have
to resolve?

Speaker 2 (10:32):
The issue came from her first. I tried to preemptively,
trying to prevent the issue from happening in the first place,
and I was not listened to, Like I was disregarded.
So how am I supposed to be able to solve
this when I'm disregarded? Some people just can't like see
things clearly, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Like some people.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
See this very clearly professionally made giraffe right, and they're like, oh,
this is a giraffe.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Right.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
People see it and they're like, what is that I
don't understand. And you know what, some people see this
and they say, oh, what is this? Is it a
small intestine? No, it's a snail. That's clear. Some people
just can't clearly see things sometimes, right, It's true father
in law is not seeing clearly. That's the point.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
That's the I feel like it.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Also, you're like, you're you're gonna have to take the
side of your own daughter instead of your daughter in law.
Oh oh, you know fa exactly, which you shouldn't just
do that. But also like that's that's where that comes from. Hey, Donna,
you stupid, Yeah, you, but you should be able to
check Come on that. Let's let's be real here. I
just laughed, and I'm honestly annoyed. Why do I have
to go to her house to speak or even initiate

(11:41):
conversation with her. I didn't do anything wrong. If she
wants to come to my daughter's birthday, fine, If not,
that's fine too. Like, I'm not gonna sit down and
make peace for something I literally didn't do.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
This happened a few months ago too. She ruined my
wedding pictures. She is angry with every single one of
my bridesmaid's pictures because she was late itting to me
for pictures, so they started without her. Once again, that
sounds like your fault. I ended up going to her
house to apologize to her for starting without her on
my wedding day, just to keep the peace in the family.

(12:13):
So this isn't like there's multiple other instances here. It's not.
It's like the Strava books of Camel's back kind of right. Yeah,
it's sam. Yeah, she didn't even apologize to me for
ruining my pictures. She just kept saying it's how she
felt in the moment, and she thinks it's funny.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Now I've ruined your wedding pictures.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
It's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yeah, Lol, that's a lol. The vibes are all wrong.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
No, I ruined your wedding pictures. It's a loll bad vibe.
It's a loll.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
No.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Well, I'm really glad she thinks it's funny. I think
the situation is funny because I want to be speaking
to her ever again.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
I mean, yeah, it'sund with them with the extra context
of yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
It's low contact like hospital emergencies, yes, everything else, like, ah,
I ain't trying to chop it up with you.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Delicate political dance, keeping everything peaceful in the family in law.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Family in law, Yeah, I feel like he is generally achievable.
Maybe you won't get it perfect every time, maybe she'll
you know, whatever, but just avoid, avoid and find your peace,
live your peace. Indeed, I just don't want to deal
with the disrespect anymore. And honestly, she was the one
that said being crap to me, not vice versa. I've
always apologized to her, even when I didn't have to.

(13:18):
I've honestly done dealing with her relationship over. I want
my daughter to grow up knowing what respect is. What
would you do? I'm editing to add that my husband
told his dad that he feels that I did the
right thing and nothing wrong in the situation, but he
still feels that I should talk to his sister and
straighten things out, something I refuse to do. My sister
in law had asked me to be the godmother of

(13:39):
her child that will be born in May. I already
told her once I don't want to. I don't want
your freaking baby. I don't want your six snotty freaking
I don't want to be a snotty godmother.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
I don't want that little kid going. You got games
on your phone. No, I don't want that kid around.
Not did away from.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Us, not tomorrow, and not for returnity and then starts
touching all your stuff.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
No.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
I already told her once I didn't want to, and
she insisted. Now I really don't want to. And we
have some relevant comments on that commentar number one. Op,
you are taking the correct action. It sounds that everyone
is enabling your sister in law and are demanding the
same of you to keep the piece. Now you are
dealing with a selfish, nasty, rubbish person. I have four

(14:27):
sister in laws who are exactly the same, I mean,
truly horrid, so I can relate. Side note commentation number one.
That sounds like a nightmare. So my thoughts and prayers
go out to.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
You four x four times the sister in law four
times what we're seeing here.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
I can handle that. That might be a divorce. Yeah, dude,
that's crazy, just kidding.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
You cannot enable people like this. You put them in
their place, which you've done. No one wants you to
rock the boat because she'll throw a fit. Yes, actually
that's so true. Like they just don't want her to
like him. Imagine pleas to me, that's what everyone is
wants here, exactly. Let her throw a fit. Have your husband,
and if possible, foster in law read the don't rock

(15:09):
the boat essay. You can fit it in the sidebar
on our slash. Gesto mother in law, It's excellent and
will open their eyes. Opie responded, thank you for this.
My other dilemma is that my in laws have family
dinner every Tuesday with sister in law and her husband. Obviously,
we used to go, but not always because I work
and many times I have meetings on Tuesday nights. Anyway,

(15:31):
we haven't gone since she's been mad, and my in
laws are pissed at me because they think I'm avoiding
them all. I tell my husband he can go, but
I'm not going. He refuses to go without me, so
they think it's my fault.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Dude, husband, why are you not making moves to help
your wife?

Speaker 1 (15:48):
So he did tell them before, like, hey, I like,
I think Opie's not in the wrong and everything else,
but I think it should be like very much, and
they're like, blame here. It's like no, no, no, let me
make things crystal clear for you. It's not her it's
me like, she is disrespecting my wife. You all are

(16:11):
enabling it and disrespecting her too, So like if she
doesn't want to go, heck, yeah she shouldn't go.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
I guess that is supporting a way.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, I mean clearly it's but I feel like all
it does is it adds up building up the pressure, yeah,
of the of the negativity coming from the in laws,
because now it's like, well, now you're taking our son away.
So it's like in a way, like, yes, I understand,
like you can have that talk with your wife and
be like I want to stand like by your decision
and how you feel. But it's like you also need

(16:42):
to be like, all right, it's a it's you're playing politics, yes,
with the in laws, with the family dynamic, you're playing politics.
So it's like it's a tactical decision to continue to
go to the family dinners even though you're not cool
with them right now, because it's gonna end up making
them cooler.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
It's gonna take the.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Heat off of your wife, off of op.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, so I get that.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
And then also it gives you the avenue to like
try to champion her at the dinners.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
And also I think that you're saying, like you're suggesting, hey,
go to the dinners anyways the husband, Yeah, because.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
It'll it'll help take the heat I think off OP
in terms of the family being like, well now they're
not even coming over to the dinner. Yah, the cheese
just avoiding us all.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
She hates us all.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
And it's like, you know, he can have some words.
And then also my idea is OP should write a
letter and have it be read by.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Husband to those I like that idea the pertinent parties.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
I like that idea. I think it's a it's just
such a slippery slope with because like then OP every
is OP every Tuesday, just like I am about to
sit through this headache for the two three hours on
my Tuesday night every single week of like knowing that
cistern law is going to be there.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
I think it's No, I'm not saying OP goes. Oh,
husband goes and away right? Oh without Ope, without OP. Yes,
I'm totally on bord with that. I'm totally more with that.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
I like it. Let's see what Let's see IFOBE actually
does it comment your number two photoshop her body out
of the pictures. Well, and now we have update number two.
We're going to dive right in. So. I had a
post about my sister a law who's pissed at me
because I told her a few days after Christmas that
the next time our kids are sick, i'd appreciate it
if she let me know so I can decide if
I want to risk getting my babysick. Basically, at Christmas,
she didn't tell me your son was sick and got

(18:21):
my ten ten month olds to really sick. I was
upset try to have a mature convo with her, but
she got offended and told me that her kid wasn't sick,
and I'm a freaking psycho and I shouldn't go to
the gym. This was totally uncalled for. I didn't respond
to her message because it was a really weird outburst
after my really nice texts asking her for a courtesy.
So I haven't heard from her since. Usually my husband's
family gets together every Tuesday, Wednesday and Saturday night for

(18:44):
dinner and Sunday for lunch. Okay, that's that's that's a
lot of terrible sister, a law of time.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
That's a lot of tolerance you're gonna have to build
up there.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
We used to all go, but then cut it down
to maybe once or twice a week, and now, to
be honest, I don't like going at all. Since Christmas,
we haven't been over because I have no desire to
see a sister, but also because I work a lot
and have meetings in the evening since I'm home with
my daughter during the day. My in laws think I
am the devil because I work and can't make it
to weekly dinners. My father in law texted my husband

(19:17):
and told him that I need to resolve the situation
with my sister in law because I am causing problems
and I should apologize. My husband did stick up for
me and said, no, I didn't do anything wrong. Correct? Correct?
What correct? Yesterday, it was my daughter's first b day
and my in law showed up with my sister in
law and her husband and kids. Surprisingly, honestly, I said hello,

(19:41):
thank you, and goodbye to her. I didn't want to
talk to her, and she was super fake towards me,
acting like a good person in front of everyone. But
I know the truth.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
I hate the switch up, dude, I know the truth.
Those kind of people are the worst little what was
it the Grimlins?

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Right, they're cute and furry is.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, we meet him after midnight, Yeah yeah, and then
they go crazy with that's.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
One of the movies where they goes niche reference. Let's
niche movie reference. It's sickening how she makes me out
to be the bad guy when it is the opposite.
My mother in law and father in law are visibly
annoyed with me because yesterday they didn't even have two
words to say with me. I was in the middle
of a convent with my friends and I was holding
my daughter, who is chill, and my mother in law

(20:23):
came over and snatched my daughter aggressively out of my arms,
without saying anything, and walked away with her. My daughter
obviously started crying, Hey, are we about to enter the ring?

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Like?

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Are we about to throw down?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Because you just snatched my child away from me?

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Last time that baby came out of my cooter. Last
time I checked. The child is faultless.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Don't involve the child with your negative energy.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Who's wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (20:54):
So? Like?

Speaker 1 (20:55):
That is honestly atrocious.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Husband, Where are you at?

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Where are you at? That's hey, we gotta find them.
They didn't even want to take picks with us, just
my daughter. And again grabbed her from me to take
a pic with her. Today, I made a post on
Facebook about the party and added the picks, and I
didn't add the pick my husband sent me of them
with my daughter because last time I put up a
pick of them on my Facebook, my mother in law

(21:19):
told me she doesn't like putting up picks of herself
because she doesn't want people to know what she's doing
or where she's at dot dot dot, So I didn't
put the pickup. Oh my, I want a monsoon of
ICUs in the comments, an absolute hurricane flurrying with ICUs,

(21:40):
just like going everywhere. We have to see this.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
I know exactly what's about to happen here. Someone's gonna
be mad they were excluded.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Well, my husband got a nasty text today about how
I am so rude because I didn't put their picture
on Facebook, how I ignored them completely yesterday, and I'm
a horrible person.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
So oh, I've never been more mad.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
These people have managed to ruin every single special moment
in my life. My engagement was ruined because as soon
as my husband popped the question, my sister in law
grabbed me by the arm to go to the bathroom
to change into a ugly butt potato sack white dress
that she bought me even though I looked so good
with what I had on what she's wait wait wait,

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so if I'm understanding this right, she stopped you in
the middle of his proposal, dragged you to the bathroom,
had you change into this dress that she thought was better,
and then put you back to continue the proposal. That
right there is that is grounds fur. That's like, why
what do you we.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Need a story about that? Stop that's crazy? Stop it,
get some help.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Pooh, I don't even know what was happening.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
She literally took me away from one of the most
important moments of my life. Then my baby shower was
a big mess because my in laws were arguing with
me over where I should have it, because how to
be where, they say, even though they weren't paying for it.
Then my bridal shower was ruined because my sister in
law decided to buy extra things even though none of
my bridesmaids told her to, and she decided to throw

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it in my face that she paid them out and
deserves the most recognition. Wow, this is That's not how
that works, dude. I know we said we from the
very first part we were like, Okay, let's not go
no contact over that, just like maybe like low medium contact.
We are in no contact territory. Yeah, I mean like

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you were in my baby shower and my proposal.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
No contact from your side, like I wouldn't go like
you know, full on blocking and stuff like that'll create
probably more problems.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
And stuff and more negativity.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
So you just don't let them reach out, don't go
out of your way to talk to them or.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Tell them about anything. Yeah, it's a delicate dance at least. Yeah,
it is a delicate dance. That is true. When my
daughter was born, my in laws argued with the nurse
staff to let them in when I was in labor,
even though I specific said no, dude. H Then when
she was finally born and I was trying to sleep,
they were in my hospital room talking and laughing while

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I felt like crap, and my mother in law didn't
want to leave and had to be involved in everything. Jude, dad,
where are you at? I mean, husband at?

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Like what are yeah?

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Hello? Husband should have already been like y'all are like
Josephina says, the audacity, the audacity. Then there's more. They
made My husband and I argue the day we took
my daughter home because they said that my sister in
law's kids absolutely needed to meet my two day old daughter,
even though it was RSV and cold season. The kids

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were three and four and in school. I said no.
Then my mother in law sat on my couch watching
me breastfeed and made me cry because she said I
had anxiety issues and needed a lot of help because
I was afraid of my newborn getting RSV.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Oh yeah, no, because you're afraid of your newborn getting
one of the worst illnesses that newborn can get.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
That's cool. Yeah, you're overreacting. I'm sorry, but I am
just like approaching. Like no, husband says, we are not
talking with you guys until you freaking clean up your
act cutting off granddaughter access, at least cutting off granddaughter.
I don't know something like that.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, I don't even know if they're ever going to
change without some sort of like mediated conversation, like like
a counselor or like some Yeah, a professional is gonna
have to step in and tell these people they actually
are way out of line. Yeah, for them to see it,
and even then they probably won't like I.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Think it's like holding we won't be in contact until
you change, and then they probably won't.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Mother in law needs the sun real bad. I want
the seventeen that. I just want the I just want
to it's gone. It's giving, it's giving, evaporate into the
that's what it's giving. My mother in law also also
told me my milk wasn't good and they needed to
stop breastfeeding.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Totally false.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
What does what does that mean?

Speaker 3 (25:59):
She taste testing? Did she sample? Who is this woman?
Mother in law sampling the chest milk is crazy?

Speaker 2 (26:08):
She's like, yeah, no, the pa tastes a little off.
I think, uh, I think maybe you're not up the
snuff with the breast milk.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Like, what are we talking about, Granny?

Speaker 2 (26:19):
I could tell then the neutrient profiles all off.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
A cup of breast milk only has two point five
grams of protein and a cup of cow's milk is
eight grams of protein.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
So I'm just saying, mother in law Granny is freaking
mad because her milk factory is shut down. Opie's ramping
up production. That's all I'm saying. Could be Actually, that's
all the factories are shut down.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Her milkshakes are bringing any boys to the yard.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Weird are making the boys run for the hills, Run
for the hills.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
She doesn't have milkshakes.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
She just has like two cans of evaporated milk, Like
like if you took two tin cans and filled them
with nickels and shook them around.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yes, yes, my wedding was another night mare for them.
I chose to get married in their small town so
that way my husband's grandma could be there on a
date that my father in law didn't have work. My dad,
op's dad paid for the whole wedding, and my mother
in law decided to stand next to my husband during
our cake cutting and kiss my husband for the cake pictures.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Stop, this isn't about you.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
This is not about you.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
It's about your son and his wife, not his son
as mom, you and your dry milk factories.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
What do you want to marry your son with this?
What are we talking about? It is?

Speaker 2 (27:39):
There's so many like it's just so weird Colley.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Then my sister in law was late getting to me
for my bridesmaid's picks and was pissed at me for
not waiting for her on my own wedding day to
take the pictures, so she decided to not smile in
any of the bridesmaid's pictures for my wedding.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Yep, just making yourself look bad.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Photo shot that, photoshop, get it he right, get her right,
photoshop to get her out, Yeah, it'd be funny.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Or photoshop her face to just.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Like yeah, make her like yeah, let's do that.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
And now for my daughter's first birthday, they have again
managed to make it all about them. I told my
husband today that I don't ever want to see any
of them again.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Thank goodness.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
There we go. There it is, and that my wits
end and I don't even know what to do anymore.
But I've never been so angry or upset. What do
I even do? And we have some comments. Commentar number
one says, so sorry this is happening to you. Nothing
you can do will be acceptable to them. What does
your husband have to say about the latest issue. This
is important because we've learned about the mountain of stuff

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we didn't know in the first story.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Where is husband?

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Where Opie replies, At first, he took his dad's side today,
but after we spoke, he now seems extremely annoyed by
them and even admitted they might be jealous. So we
have an update number three, but really quick before we
get into that. Dakota first, your your your four no contact? Yes,
yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
At this point it's like, dude, for all intents and purposes, yeah,
I to say no contact, just don't do. In my head,
it's just like, don't do the blocking outright, because then
it creates I mean, you know, but honestly, I guess
it doesn't matter if you're just like, I don't ever
want to see these people ever again.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
I think we got to do it at this point
because for OP, like, because we've reached the point we're
ready to go full send. I think it's like, hey,
you go tell them that I don't want to see
them again. Here's the tricky part. Husband, I think, is
more entitled to pick because he chooses would would you say?

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Well, I mean yeah, I guess it's his parents.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
And parents, sister, the baby. This is a joint decision.
Does OPI go to husband and say, I also want
baby to go no contact with them? What are your
thoughts to go to It's probably fair.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
I can't get over in my head that I imagined
you being like, let's ask the baby what what it thinks?

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Baby? Baby?

Speaker 3 (30:00):
What say you?

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Baby?

Speaker 3 (30:01):
We need your advice.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
What do we do about the in laws? I want
milk fact the week that's not shut down. I don't
want the nickel kank. I want the big milk fact
the week.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
His first words h or I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, I think it's fair to be like, I don't
want these people around our kid, because, yeah, they don't
seem like the best role models, you know, it doesn't
seem like.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
A good familial profile.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Maybe, but maybe we do this. Maybe it's like, hey, husband,
I'm gonna go no contact and you can let them know,
what do you think we should do about baby and yourself?
What are your thoughts and just pose it to the
husband and see what he thinks.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, I think that's I mean, that's good. That's definitely
like sort of covering all the angles.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
You know, it's like the more I really, like critically
think about these kind of stories, the more it's like
I get be coming from a place of like I
don't ever want to see these people again. And then
even the husband is like, yeah, they're like out of line.
But it's like, are you go, Like forever is a
long time, right, So like what is the path that provides.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
You the most peace.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Is it actually completely cutting these people off or is
it learning to just let it sort of slide off
your back like a duck, like water off a duck's back,
you know what I mean, Like, don't let any of
it get past the surface, and just know where your
boundaries are and be prepared to like enforce them when needed.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
But I don't know, it's probably situational. Yeah, I but
I think I think Opie's reached her limit.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
And I don't blame her.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, I think given everything, it's like it makes but say,
but see now, then once you like start taking like
the grandchild out of the picture for the in laws,
now you're starting like war.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah you know.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
So now it goes from like, oh, we kind of
don't like each other to like, oh, we are like
spitefully going to hate each other for the rest of
our lives.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Now it is true. Why That's why I was like,
because it's it seems like it's a very that's a
big one. That's a big one.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
They're literally the parents of your husband, and it's like
you're probably still even if you want no contact, you're
still probably going to have to deal with them in
some way, shape or form.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, yeah, is it realistic like no so, or like
it could be.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
And we'll see, we'll see what hope he does.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
But I'm just thinking, I'm thinking deep today. Those gears
are grind coming back the layers of the onion.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Update number three. So my mother in law and sistern
in law and sister in law's husband did not wish
me a happy birthday yesterday. Today my mother in law
shows up on my door unannounced and expects to be
let in, even though I specifically stated I did not
want to talk to them this week. I opened the
door and told her I was busy working. She said
she would wait outside. I said, no, you can't wait,

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you need to leave. I shut the door, close the blinds,
and haven't heard from anyone anyways. My father in law
ended up texting me the other day telling me that
the door that their door is always open. I responded
by telling him, thank you. It's just that at this
time I am consumed with advancing my career, taking care
of my daughter, and going to the gym for my health. Therefore,
during this week, it is nearly impossible to make plans.

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He responded by saying, so there's a set amount of
time that we can't see each other for.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
What they're just so pushy, like there, it's like so
not like are they mad that she has a career?

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Is that part of it too?

Speaker 2 (33:36):
That it's like just the fact that she's career oriented
is like gross.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
I think there's like a fault.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
I think it's like, hey, why are you not spending
every single millisecond and every molecule of your body devoted
to your children and not you know, taking care of yourself,
to take care of better them, take better care of
the kids.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
No, no, no, that's like no, you know what, screw it.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
No contact, get away, it's from second. Don't let them
know where you live, don't let them know your number,
get rid.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Of them, just be gone. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
I was trying to find the peaceful path. Yeah, I
choose no peace, No peace. I want problems always mean
but I don't. But these people will cause problems always,
so get away from that.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Let it burn. Honestly, this just annoyed me. Instead of
saying something like no worries, I understand you're busy, and
I'm happy you're taking care of your health.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Let's get together soon.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Nope, So I decided to give it to him straight.
I told him my daughter's bedtime at seven pm, and
I don't want to mess with her schedule because if
we do, she gets really unsettled and won't fall asleep.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
And I have worked during.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
The week, my in laws don't work from Sunday to Wednesday,
and my sister in law doesn't work at all.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Lazy, just kidding. Shout out to you stay at home
moms out there.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
We love you. That's like basically ninety percent of our audience.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
No, it's not easy, not easy, not easy at all.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
So please flame me in the comments because I deserve
it anyways. So then I told him to be honest.
I didn't feel like being all together and protect to
be happy because my sister in law treats me like crap.
And I explained that she got mad at me at
Christmas for asking her next time to tell me if
her kids are sick, and she exploded at me and
told me to stay isolated for the rest of my life,

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et cetera, et cetera, and I haven't heard from her
since then. I told him that I just didn't feel
appreciated and everything I do is always wrong. Father in
law responded, he told me him and his wife aka
my mother in law were coming to my house this
week to speak with me. I said, this week isn't good.
It's my birthday, my daughter's first birthday, and Valentine's Day,

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and I prefer to have peace and not get worked up.
We can talk about it in the week after. He
didn't reply, well, today is my birthday. Happy birthday doesn't
sound good, but sorry about I hope it can be
a happy, unhappy birthday maybe, and my father in law
sent me happy birthday text. Mother in law, sister in law,
and sister in law's husband did not text her call,

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So I am done. They are officially out of my life.
I don't even want to talk to them next week. Loll.
What did I even do to not even deserve a
simple happy birthday?

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Like?

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Am I really that bad of a person? What would
you do? You married their son? You demon?

Speaker 1 (36:11):
You demon?

Speaker 3 (36:12):
How dare you pro create with their pro creation?

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Exactly. We got some relevant comments. Comment number one says
you owe them nothing, not even an evening where they
yell at you, because that's what it will be. Bottom line,
you cannot give them what they want. They want access
any time they wish, without accepting your parameters or respecting you.
They want to call the shots. They want you to
stop being stubborn. They want to take zero responsibility. They

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love being petty and want you to roll over, play
on alive while they run rough.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Shot, rough shot over your life. I don't even I
don't have never run a rough shot?

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Baby? Is that a word?

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah? Oh?

Speaker 1 (36:54):
What does that mean? Just like going running a miss,
like going crazy, just like stepping all over you? Wow? Yep.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Having shoes with nail heads projecting to prevent slipping. Wow,
that's that's what that is. That's a definition. What is
it again of a horse having shoes with nail heads
projecting to prevent slipping rough shod. So it's like to
run rough shot. Textured horseshoe keeps you, It keeps you stable.
Oh but idiom is to completely ignore the opinions, rights,

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or feelings of others.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Interesting kind of like how rough shod horseshoes ignore the
conditions of the ground beneath them and create traction.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
You just made the connection for me, Thank you, because
I was confused.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
How did we get there?

Speaker 1 (37:36):
How did we get here, no, thank you. Meeting now
does not work for me. No further explanations. Do not jade, justify, argue, defend,
or explain. It's hard to not offer Jade, but learn
to just let your no be enough. This is common
to number one is really yeah, this is super tight.

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We got we got, we got jade, and what was
the the uh? There was something of something else earlier
that was super far. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
As someone who used to feel the need to always
explain why I didn't want to do something or if
I said no, like I needed to write three paragraphs like,
it's so refreshing to just be like, nah, don't want
to do that next time.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Our and be at peace. I think it's a bad
thing about our culture.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
It's like it's constantly like, oh no, sorry that Its
like why apologize, Like.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
We don't we don't need to do this anyways. Sidebar,
that's a whole different Yeah. We could talk about that
for an hour.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Whole rabbit hole, but yeah, Jade, we love it. It's
hard not to offer jade, but learn to just let
your no be enough. I cannot imagine meeting them only
to have them yell at you for being an adult
making decisions you think is best for your child. It's
going to be the most unproductive meeting on earth. Yeah, probably, Yeah,
I'd agree. When they show up unannounced, No, you cannot

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come in. I am preparing for tomorrow. Surprise visits irritate
me and I wouldn't be good company. Husband and your
parents are here. Do you want to go outside? Just
talk to them? I like that. That's yeah, just be
like husband, take care of it. Take them.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Where is your husband and all this?

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Why are you bearing the full brunch of of his parents'
wrath alone? The good news is that spring is around
the corner, and you might consider inviting them to meet
gust the park one weekend morning for an hour, not
allowing them home afterwards. We will be at the park
from ten until eleven, at which time we go home
for morning nap. Dude comments or number one just absolutely

(39:32):
just spitting freaking super hot fire all over the place.
Hot Tua of great advice and information, just spitting it out.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Who we can let that fly for now? I don't
know Hoktua's stock has gone down recently.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
It has, and it makes the meme funnier. No, but
this person that was poignant that was bars. That was
straight bars.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, that was like the video of the guy like
writing just with flame everywhere because he's just cooking on fire.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yes, absolute, absolute cooking in the kitchen. Update number four.
I am just feeling proud of myself. My mother in law,
sister in law, nor my sister in law's husband's wish
me a happy birthday on Sunday. My mother in law
showed up knocking on my door unannounced on Monday morning,
the day after the birthday, and looking through the window
like a crazy person. I had told my in laws

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I didn't want to see him this week because I
was busy and I didn't want to talk to them
about the situation because I didn't want to be stressed
out during my birthday week, my daughter's first birthday in
Valentine's Day. But my mother in law doesn't care about
my feelings or what I say, so I answered the door.
I told her I was busy on a work hall,
and she said that.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
She would wait.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Honestly, would have been great to just be like, okay,
cool goes back in for seven more hours. Yeah, yeah, sorry,
long call my mom in.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Law this yep, I was indisposed and disposed good, make
it sorry, and I closed the door and closed all
the blinds in her face so she couldn't look in
at my dog anymore.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Today was my daughter's first birthday and my mother in
law decided to spam my Facebook post I made, acting
like Grandma of the year, blocked her on Facebook, same
with my sister in law. My mother in law and
sister in law also sent happy birthday in sweet messages
in this big family group chat like fifteen people cousins,
sisters of the mother in law and acted like they
were so sweet. And remember they didn't tell Opie Happy

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birthday to her directly.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
On her actual birthday. Yeah, yep, quite literally.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
I almost replied with, oh, you can say happy birthday
to my daughter, but not to me.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Oh it was to the daughter.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
I didn't. Instead, I left the WhatsApp group. I blocked
their phone numbers so they have no way of contacting
me at all. Totally blocked, and I felt like a
weight has been lifted. My husband stands by my side
and all of this, although he is really heartbroken at
how immature his mom and sister are. They have to
learn that their disrespectful actions can cause consequence.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
When will you learn that your actions have consequences.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
When will you learn that's the code of pain? Ladies,
That's right, my brain's full of internet memes. Dude, dude,
your your your brain is wrinkled to the maximum today.
Do you have your surface area is just at a
I'm upset that I wasted so much time trying to
like delegate, like find a peaceful resolution with these in

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laws though they don't deserve it.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
They suck.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
You know you were trying. You're trying, like, hey, how
can we There's husband is involved, like you wanna it's
I think it's always good to be like, okay, how
can I give it the good old college try?

Speaker 3 (42:32):
How can I put my best foot forward?

Speaker 2 (42:34):
But then it reaches that point and to be clear,
I wasn't trying to defend the in laws. I'm trying
to say, which road here is the actual road that
leads to the most piece?

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Yes for op right, for op y for inner piece.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
And now I think it's clear, like you're not gonna
get any peace with these people talking to you ever.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Cause sometimes if it's like a way lighter case than this,
a kind of hybrid approach of like okay, we won't
actively initiate thing, but you know we'll go to the
parties and then that won't make them go. Why aren't
you doing this? Why did you do this? That can
work in these lighter case scenarios, but we got a
heavy duty.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Yeah, this is way too exhausting to try to keep
any semblance of like peace or tranquility on the surface.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
It's like that's, oh yeah, too much dud. But we
got some relevant comments. Commented Number one says, applaud to
you on telling mother in law she will not wait
but leave and plugging up the loopholes via blocking her
and sister in law everywhere. May you enjoy the bliss
and silence? Ah? Yes, and then we have updates Number five.
My mother in law and sister in law have been

(43:34):
blocked for a little over a month, and it's been
so nice to not have to worry about them messaging
me or me seeing any of their posts or anything
like that. My husband and I went on vacation for
a week and our daughter stayed with my parents. We
had a great time, then came back to reality. The
day after we got back, my father in law called
husband and told him that mother in law cries all

(43:56):
the time. Because she hasn't seen her granddaughter, my daughter.
They asked if we could go to their house today
since it's Italian a pha this day, Italian Father's day,
this day, what Italianatalio and me are the father Riano?
Is that?

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Okay, I'm just gonna let that one. Maybe it's Father's
Day in Italy, I guess. I guess one would think that.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
One could be global, but he who knows, man, the
Italians do like their things in a very specific way,
so you gotta give it to him. I said, absolutely not,
But I told my husband he can go. Why would
I want to go there after nothing has been resolved
and mother in law and sister law completely ignored my birthday.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
M hmm.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
My husband is mad because, oh, my husband is mad
because I told him he can't bring our daughter over
to their house with him. He thinks they should see
their granddaughter, but I disagree. His mother and sister highly
disrespected me, and I don't believe they should have access
to my most precious treasure in this world, big facts,
not until they learned to apologize and act actually understand

(45:00):
what they did. Yeah, do you all agree? Or am
I being too harsh for a reference for those who
don't want to read through my old posts. Basically, I've
always made my in laws happy and everything, even if
they went against what I wanted. They chose my engagement party,
what I had to wear, they chose the date of
my wedding, by the way, none of which was paid
for by them.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Just to get little astrass on there, right.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
They're just demanding other people spend money to do their whims.
They just know best. Apparently, apparently I even made them
happy by getting married in their country, in their hometown
so that their family could attend, even if it meant
my family could not attend the wedding. That is big.
That was a huge sacrifice. My sister in law ruined
my wedding pictures because she was a bridesmaid and was

(45:44):
very late getting to me on my wedding day, so
she was so pissed I didn't wait for her and
so she was miserable on all my photos. Basically she
was looking like this and after.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
All the sacrifices, Oh he's made, dude, did you just
set the principle that like you can be walked over?
So they just will continue to do that forever. I
came to your hometown. My family couldn't make it to this.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
I did this so that way you and your family,
sister in law could come down, your whole.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Family that hates me apparently as well.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
So yeah, I don't so many eleven out of ten
not mistakes. But what's like like breaking the law, Like, yeah, felonies.
I'm gonna call felonies. So many felonies you've committed against
Op here, it's just crazy. My mother in law printed
a huge picture from my wedding day with everyone except
me in it and put it in her living room.

(46:36):
It was her wedding. She printed a picture of Op's
wedding without Ope in it.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
The grandchild should not be there because they need consequences.
And also the grandchild shouldn't be around these people because
they're probably going to whisper, you know, little poissuns into
the ear of the child and probably try to turn
her own daughter against her.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
So it's like, husband, where are you at?

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Dude? Bro?

Speaker 3 (47:06):
You gotta pull up, my dude, what's happening?

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Pull up on mother in law, sister in law and
be like grainy, get your get your wrinkled tin cane
coins out of here. Yeah, for real knows My mother
in law made me cry two days postpartum, saying I
had anxiety issues, tolding me I shouldn't chest feed because
my milk is bad for my baby, told me after

(47:29):
my wedding that I was jealous of her when I
told her it upset me. That she came up and
kissed my husband while we were cutting our wedding cake.
Just everything so insane. Over Christmas, my sister in law's
kids were sick and ended up getting my daughter very sick,
so I asked her to please tell us next time
her kids were sick, even if it's a holiday. And
she got pissed to me and told me to stay
isolated forever and hasn't talked to me since. She told

(47:50):
my husband that we should live separate lives and she
wants nothing to do with us. WHOA, wow, great, excellent,
perfect cool. But the husband say about that, I mean,
this is his mom telling him, Hey, your wife doesn't
want to talk to us. Cool you my son and her,
you know, go go ahead and live your life, be
happily about after be away? Is he going to be like, No,

(48:14):
I still want a relationship with you or my mom?

Speaker 2 (48:16):
That would give me all the green light I need
where it's like, oh, so you you told me that.
I okay, So that's where it's at all, Right, then
I guess our relationship is so shallow that it could
be undone by the most important person in the world
to me, my wife.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
If he does that, it's on site like insert sponsor here, cool,
it's like we're separating.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Then that's nice, that's right. See you never, I guess,
but that's what you're okay with. I didn't put that
out there, you did.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
See later, my mother in law is mad that I
haven't spoken to her daughter, who in reality is the
one who hasn't spoken to me. So she didn't wish
me a happy birthday, but a couple of days later,
for my daughter's birthday, spammed my entire Facebook and WhatsApp
family groups with birthday wishes for my daughter. Anyways, those
are just some of the things they've done God and
have consistently made me cry or have caused arguments with

(49:08):
my husband. But yet, now that my mother in law
says she is sad, we have to go over to
make her feel better. I can't deal with this anymore.
And I'm so tired of arguing with my husband over it. Yeah,
she's just guilt tripping.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
She's just like, oh no, the consequences of my actions. No, no, no,
I can't deal with that when now I'm gonna cry
and make you feel bad about yourself, so.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Real quick to Koda. We talked about it, but kind
of as the story was going on. But do we
sit husband down now and be like, listen, your mother
in law is going to keep torturing me. Do we
ask him to go no contact? Like, what do we do?

Speaker 2 (49:50):
I think you should frame everything in the context of
your kid. You know, it's like I don't want my kid,
you know, around these people who so blatatantly disrespect me
and hold me in no regard because I'm afraid what
they're how they're going to influence my child, our child. Yes,

(50:12):
I don't know, it'd be like the same, like or
just take the context of family out of it, right,
say these are just like a group of friends co workers, Right,
and you've found out that your husband's coworkers all hate you,
but your husband wants to go hang.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
Out with them four times a week, and you'd be like.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Husband, I don't like that you hang out with these
people who outwardly just blatantly hate me. Yes, and you go, oh,
what do It's not that big a deal. I'm gonna
take the I'm gonna take our kide over there too. No,
they hate me? Why are you hanging out with people
who hate me?

Speaker 1 (50:49):
That we need to use that analogy more often. It's like, hey,
if this was a group of friends, if this is
a group of co workers, we absolutely would not be
spending time with them, no questions asked. So why because
because as we happen to share this same DNA, because
you're my birther.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
It's a context that people will use to like abuse
their power because it's like, oh, well, we're family that
you can't do anything about it.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
We're family.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
It's like, well, that doesn't give you the green light
to just like be a toxic manipulator. And if I'm
the husband, I'm like it don't give you a right
to hate my wife and expect me to just lay
out like roll over and be cool with it. Yes,
Dakota like yes, so I don't know. Yes, that's what
it is.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Ladies and gentlemen, take mother freaking notes, and keep taking
notes because we're getting into these relevant comments. Commentar number one, Well,
the birthday thing is really a little petty of you
to be mad about. Adults don't care about other adults' birthdays.
Does your husband celebrate Father's Day? If so, it's his day.
You get to do what you like on Mother's Day.

(51:52):
He should be able to celebrate his day how he likes.
Your other points are issues worth addressing.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Okay, so really quick, I think the point of just
going out of your way to like not celebrate your
daughter in law's.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Birthday when you know it, it's.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Not like a thing where it's like they didn't throw
me a party and I didn't get any gifts and
blah blah blah. It's more just like the this is
just another example of like blatantly going out of their
way to just sort of disrespect it or disregard me.
I might as well be invisible. Worst thing, they don't care.
They're almost using it as a tool to her.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Yeah, exactly. Crazy.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yeah, where it's just like just to let you know,
just a reminder we don't care about you.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Mm hmm. You not like us, crazy, You're not a
nice person to us us, So Obie replies, My in
laws celebrate every single birthday in their family with a
lot of passion, so that's why I was upset about it.
They completely ignored me on my birthday because they're mad
that I am not talking to my sister in law.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Comment number two says you are not wrong.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
You do not have your husband's support, so you will
never gain any ground. It might be to give him
the choice of standing up for you, or you will
have to live separately until he comes to his senses.
He married you, and his loyalty should always lie with
you and your child first. If he takes your child
to see her, then she has gotten exactly what she
wants him and her grandchild minus a You. You are

(53:17):
in a tough spot, dear, and this and this won't
be easy. Just keep in mind that you only have
one life. Is this what you want and is it
what you want for your child to grow up? And
you get no rewind, no do over. Once time is
passed is gone forever. You see that in the growth
of your child and can see just how fast time
passes watching your child grow. Next thing, you know, years

(53:39):
twelve gone by, and you've been miserable, not worth it
in the long run.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
And just to be we just want to make sure
I'm understanding this comment.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Yeah, okay, this comment is basically agreeing with op like, listen,
cut ties with them, go live your life without having
them constantly just sucking. Yeah, and we have update number six,
no contact mother in law and sister in law's birthday party.
So now they're having their birthdays right and we know
how they love their py Please ruin it. I've got

(54:06):
no contact with my mother in law and sister in law.
There are many reasons why, and many things.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
That led to this point. I have previous posts.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
My issue now is that tomorrow is my sister in
law son's fourth birthday party, and my husband wants us
to go, me, him, and our one year old daughter.
I do not want to go, and just super quick
on the husband like husband will like defend her and
then do this and then be like, hey, come on,
He's like, don't you get it? Like, I don't want

(54:34):
to go around them. They're just gonna keep finding ways
to torture me.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Come on, has the conversation been fully had? Like I
feel like at this point it has to have been right,
like what.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
One would think. But maybe you're right, Maybe they have
the micro conversation. He might defend her here and there.
But his defaults is siding with his parents maybe unless
he's convinced issue by issue.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
You know, and family is I don't know if I'm
like oversday here, but it's like a like traditional Italian family.
Family is a huge deal. So and if these are
you know, from the old country, from the old country,
it's gonna make sense that he's probably gonna be very

(55:18):
hesitant to try to cut them off or like outright.
You know, it's like a it's like a core thing
possibly for him, but I think it really needs to
be made clear, like this is a hard line for me,
Like I at this point, it's it's built up now
to where this is not something I want to until

(55:40):
like reconciliation, right and until some sort of ownership over
their behavior is made. I don't want them around me
or our daughter.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
I'm your wife. What's you going to do about it?
What you're going to do about it? I'm your wife,
What's you going to do about it? Yeah, Bo, you
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Basically everything you just said. I agree. It's like, yo, husband,
you need to get with the program because they are
doing all that stuff. They're torturing my life. If you

(56:34):
don't want to do that, there is a misalignment in
this marriage and partnership. And that's when OBI really I think,
can you know, get her life back? Because it's like, okay, yes,
obviously divorce the divorce is always a process and figuring
out cussy and everything.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
But I think that is at least like a light
at the end of the tunnel.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Well, I think maybe try.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Some counseling first before to force because clearly if you
can't see that, like my gut feeling is to family thing.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Yes, yes, he cannot put.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
That level of what's it called.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
I don't sure he can't remove himself because the family's
so crucial, yes, to the fundamental life experience where it's
like he can't exclude them but it's like you need, yeah,
something has to get yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
I And to be clear, I didn't say this, but
I was kind of thinking in my head like, if
you've really really explained it over time, multiple times, multiple counseling,
like all of that stuff, if it really reaches that
point where he just doesn't get it, and you're like
kind of like the same way that OPI tried and
tried and tried and tried with the family and then
it just hit that point. If it hits that point

(57:44):
where it's like, oh, husband is just gonna like basically
side with them forever.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
And it'd be different if they didn't literally blatantly hate
her that we're seemingly just being like, you got our
daughter sick.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Yes, they just hate started though, right, So what started
at the sister in law? Well, so see they get
all started with the sister in law. Sister in law's
kid got op and Ope's kid sick.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
That's what started all. They're the ones that did the offense,
you know.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
So it's like, no, I'm saying it's because Ope said
you got my daughter sick? Oh yes, yeah yeah, and
then they're just like nah, and now it is.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Like ridiculous come on, come on, come on.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Now.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
I know the kid has nothing to do with this,
but it's the fact that I have to go and
be around his entire family for a couple of hours
while they ignore me and acts like I don't even exist,
while I'm holding my daughter and they are talking to
her like I'm not even there. They did this a
couple of weeks ago. It was the first time I'd
seen them since February. We were at a mutual friend's
birthday party. I was completely ignored, but they spoke to

(58:45):
my daughter, who by the way, is one years old,
reminder the whole time, acting like I was invisible in
front of the guests.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
It was so aggravating.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Not to mention, the last straw of everything that led
to me going no contact with my mother in law
was that she didn't wish me a happy birthday. No call,
no text, no nothing, and neither did my session in
law or her husband. Birthdays are a huge thing in
their family, so this means something majorly disrespectful. So my
question is what do I do. Do I go to
this kid's birthday party and just ignore them, or do

(59:17):
I send my husband alone, or do I send my
husband with my daughter, and I am free to go
to the gym.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Okay, this is what I would say to that. I say,
you should go go with your husband and go with
your daughter. And before you go, be like husband, I
want you to pay laser focus attention to how I.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Am treated here.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Use it as an example, because I would I would
guess that the only thing he's saying is be like, oh,
they're not that bad. They don't really not like you land,
it can't be that bad, and I just be like husband, watch, watch.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
And know this. Everything you see here is what happens
with every every single interaction with them, or like it.
It is consistent and it never it never. Yeah, then
that's the leaf. But honestly, at this point, he doesn't
they have enough evidence, I mean to me, taking her
away from her proposal when he was in the middle

(01:00:09):
of it, like he was there, like even that that alone,
that alone could be and they did a thousand more
like anyways, so many things here. Let's get into these
last relevant comments. So commentre number one says, send your
husband alone, tell him you wouldn't want him to be
around people who abuse and bully him. So why doesn't

(01:00:29):
he love you enough to do the same for you
who bore commentar number two. No contact means no contact.
Why is your significant other wanting to go to a
party that he knows you'll be treated terribly at Opie replies,
my husband is literally arguing with me right now, saying
that we all have to go because we are a
family and I am with him and with him, no

(01:00:49):
one will disrespect me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
He was literally at the party the other week with.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Me and they did nothing but disrespect me. If I
don't go to the party, he says, he's taking our
daughter with him. At least that really irritates me. He
says they understand their mistakes and they've been wanting to
talk to you, which proves false as he said that
before the other party, and they continue to treat me
like crap. He says that he can't take the situation
and that he needs there to be peace. It makes

(01:01:15):
me so angry that he thinks I can just forgive
and forget after being treated so or there is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
No peace if there's only a piece for him. He's saying,
I need my peace. They won't stop telling me, so
I need you to be there so they can shut
up to me and start ruining your time, like it's
that selfish and again disregarding Op's experience.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
So I.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Don't know. I think it needs to be like a
go to this party and then have like a moment
by moment breakdown where it's like you experience the disrespect
husband is there. You go having a side with husband
and you say, Okay, what did you see there?

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Did you see respect?

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Did you did you see respect? When they ignored my
existence and like talk to our daughter like like you know,
like when someone's like out, like a stranger's walking a
dog and it's really cute and you go, oh, hi,
little doggie, and then you completely ignore the existence of
the person walking the dog. Right, we've all done this,
We've all done this, but this is not a stranger
with a cute dog. This is your daughter in law

(01:02:19):
with your grandchild.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Yeah. I'm gonna say this might be crazy, but just
to just just throw a freaking' a frickin hail Mary
at the end end of an episode, I think we
have enough here for a divorce. I do not. I
think we should absolutely go to counseling and like go
through that, but mostly as a preper you know, as
a Okay, maybe we can resolve this, but kind of
going in being like I don't know if he's going

(01:02:42):
to change, and just prepping for co parenting. I think
this man has shown that, hey, you love your mom
so much, go marry her.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Much freaking Mary.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
But see, I think that's the pay fact context for
the counseling. This guy's clearly so chained to his family
that like he can't see reality. And it's like, if
you if you know, if outside of this this is
like a healthy marriage and a healthy relationship and like
a man that you love, like, go try to figure out,

(01:03:13):
you know, how to move past it. And I think
it lies with the husband being able to be like,
oh yeah, my family's toxic.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Yeah, and right now he can't do that. The rose
tinted glasses, they got it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
They got to fly, you know, and whether it's a
cultural thing or what, whatever it is, get to the
root of it, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
And then if that and if.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
That doesn't work, yeah, I don't I don't know, man.
I can't see myself being in a relationship where I'm
made to be constantly disrespected by people I can never.

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and gentlemen, please comment below. Would you divorce or na
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Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
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Speaker 5 (01:04:14):
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Speaker 5 (01:04:33):
The wedding was going so well. We set our vows,
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(01:04:55):
is expressing her feelings of gratitude towards everyone who attended
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(01:05:15):
just like you always dreamed of, you, little pirate slut.
Why the fuck would you say that? She looked mortified.
There was a gasp and extremely awkward silence in the crowd.
She just walks away and starts crying. Everyone looks at
me as if I ruined the wedding. Now comes the
dancing music. I asked the DJ to play boats and
posts at day, to play boats and Hose. That's a

(01:05:39):
hilarious song that was played in Step Brothers. I was
the only one on the dance floor when it was playing.
No one joined me, just glaring at me. My wife
is now upset, with me and telling me I'm a
stupid fuck monkey. My mother in law has been blowing
up my phone since this happened. She told me, I
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time for them to put their big girl pants on.
Am I the a hole?

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Bron?

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
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Oh my god?

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They call it down under for a reason. And then lastly,
what is slowly dying off?

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Everyone? Enjoy your finite existence? Wow? That that hit deep.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Honestly, Like this is ending on a very exist note
right here, Like this is.

Speaker 5 (01:09:02):
I don't know, I don't know how to feel right
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Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Turd, Yeah to it. Colas are we ready for our
next question. What does America get right?

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
You know, maybe a few things, and these are.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Not the answers I expected, honestly.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Really okay, yea, truly, I've then altering your restaurant order.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
I visited Spain and I couldn't find a place that
would let me substitute or change things.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
Man, Americans, we're just picky.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
We're so and the.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Restaurant industry accommodates us, and it comminates.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
You know, you think like, hey, like if it's not
something crazy, like I wouldn't ask for like could you
make this like chicken dish, but like make it with calamari,
Like that's.

Speaker 5 (01:09:40):
Yeah, that's ridiculous. But I feel like I would like
my chicken done medium, Or let's replace these potatoes with
sweet potatoes.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Or like, hey, can I get some of your like
fried onion rings? Sam? Are you hungry?

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
Literally, John, I am always starving. I could like swallow
twenty to come right now.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Well, Sam, I know you love gobbling down them cucumbers,
but look, eating healthy doesn't mean you have to be sloppy, Samuel.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
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He's so easy. We should cancel all grocery stores and
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A deserted island because HelloFresh is way more convenient, and
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Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Of course it is. It's only fifteen minutes to make
those delicious, delicious meals. But Sam, that ain't all?

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
How good? That not hate me all?

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We got more. I'm talking creamy garlic, spinach for ConA ravioli.

Speaker 5 (01:10:33):
I'm talking barbecue ribs, bottlow back in cheese.

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Speaker 5 (01:12:32):
See, yeah, you know, just like simple stuff, I mean,
expect to pay more for it. And also like the
reason that I think Americans can ask is because we
have a tipping culture.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
So you just for how terrible you're being.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
That is true. You know what's funny? Like I went
to France and it's like people make fun of all
the American tourists that tip. If I was the French waiter,
I'd be like.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
Bruh, brugg you forgive it? What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Double paid? Like, why would I ever like clown someone
who is getting me paid double.

Speaker 5 (01:13:00):
Yeah, that's ridiculous, Well let them pay you get that check.

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
Fam.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
It's actually, if anything, as soon as I hear like
English with the American accent, I'm like more than a
extra extra crap for you, you know what I mean?
I didn't like eighties music until I heard American eighties music.
You guys did eighties best.

Speaker 5 (01:13:20):
We got Michael Jackson, Come on, like, how are you
going to compete with us? Literally literally he's the king
and we got Michael Jackson and Rick Rollman.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
What's his name, Oh toulu.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Yeah, Rick Atley, here's a question, A, I don't even
know what eighties music outside of America sounds like. Do
you have you ever head? I know I have heard though,
so you know how like like K pop, they'll just
take like what like big trending sounds and kind of
just like redo it with Korean on top of it. Yeah,
so they actually have done this with like eighties music. Also,

(01:13:51):
it's not just like today's popular music, and it's actually
pretty fire.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
Like they've done this with they've redone eighties music.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Yeah, yeah, but today, like I I think I read
somewhere that like other country's equivalent to like trying K pop, right,
Lithuanian l pop?

Speaker 5 (01:14:05):
You know, is anyone from TikTok or YouTube on from Lithuania?

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
Yeah, Basically they'll they'll take they're kind of like ten
years behind, so they'll just like you know, retake ten
or twenty year old music and just redo it. So beautiful,
it's pretty awesome for non American. The things that stood
out for me in the month I spent backpacking were
the people. Granted it might have been that I was
in the holiday bubble, but geez, everyone I met over
there was friendly and willing to help, however they could.

(01:14:30):
I do love that. I love it when there's like
cultures in a place where it's like you're at a bar,
like or I like I haven't booked a hotel, or oh,
come over for dinner, like we'll feed you, like stay
at our Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:14:40):
But I also think in terms of America, there's a
lot of different parts in America. I feel like la
where we are, it's maybe a little less friendly than
if you're going through certain parts of the South.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
Totally probably too late, but to recall what I once
read wandering hype people. You never know when it will happen.
But at some unexpected moment in America, someone is hyping
someone up. Usually this is performed by complete and total strangers.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
I'm that guy. I love doing that. Yeah, Like, look at.

Speaker 5 (01:15:09):
That guy, makeed up beast of salami. Come on, look
at all our boxes with so many batsmen boxes.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
And last but not least, on a very heartwarming note,
the United States adopts more children than the rest of
the world combined. Wow, isn't that? Isn't that awesome?

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
I wonder from where?

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
Yeah? True?

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
Like what what states where we're stealing babies from.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
Is where we're stealing babies from.

Speaker 5 (01:15:33):
I don't know when I think of adoption, I just
think of all like the moms, like I just adopted
a Chinese baby.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
Yeah, that's the same, same, same.

Speaker 5 (01:15:41):
But I guess there's kids who are probably kid. Yeah
that's another episode of O Koe B. If you haven't already,
make sure you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
So scrab for for harmony. Do it for the sake
of harmony or harmony. We'll see you next time.
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