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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
My sister in law insulted my wife, so I taught
her a lesson. You asold my wife get throwaway because
my wife and her sister have my man. My wife
Ava female twenty eight and I male thirty just had
our first set of kids, a pair of twin boys.
We had met and dated through college and after graduation
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got married in a simple ceremony. My wife is a
nurse and I'm an engineer. By the way, this comes
from user significant Fudge forty one thirty seven and if
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r slash Okay story Time suburb it. My wife is
the quiet type, especially in large social gatherings, and very petite.
I think that will be important later. Honestly, I'm not
much different, and that's how we hit it off because
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our friend groups dragged us to a party we didn't
really want to be at. That said one on one
with a patient. She is very, very warm and all smiles.
We tried for over a year to get pregnant. My
swimmers were not day in her job, so we were
thrilled to become parents, and finding out it was twins
was even better. My wife's sister, female twenty five, on
the other hand, is a piece of work. She relies
on guys to fund her lifestyle and jumps from guy
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to guy or scams them online. If I had proof
of the catfishing or the scams, I would report it.
She has no education past high school. She's trying to
become an Instagram influencer but only has about one hundred followers.
She's constantly trying to make it rich quick and still
lives with their parents. No hate on this part, it's
just showing how financially irresponsible she is. She buys designer
everything and eats out all the time. We waited until
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the boys were a few weeks before we let anyone
come over. My wife had to recover and she just
wanted to bond with our boys uninterrupted, and I do
anything for her. I had to beat my mom back
or the stick, not literally, but it was worth the piece.
I wanted only one set of family at a time
so we didn't get overwhelmed, and suggested her parents come first.
Her parents brought her sister. Now, up to this point,
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her sister had been super interested in the pregnancy and
helped throw the baby shower. You drop off my wife
snacks and things. If she mentioned a craving. Overall, it
seemed like a turning point for them because before the
pregnancy their relationship had been strained childhood competition, fighting over
who dated first, et cetera. I went to the kitchen
to make lunch while they sat and chatted, Her sister
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came in to help. I thought. She set up plates
and things and started asking about the labor the last
couple of weeks all that jazz, I thought she was
just trying to let me vent or find more ways
to be helpful. But I told her everything was going
pretty smoothly. She made the comment that's too bad, she's ruined.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
She got ripped from her v to were a that
won't be a pleasure to look at. I'm sorry, what sister?
So she just bitter.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Sisters, you're a baby and you're gonna comment on her,
Why don't you mind your.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Business like congratulations. It's a shame that her body is
ruined forever and she's disgusting, and you're married.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Your personality is gonna be like.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Why are you? Are you like this? It is true
that there was some tearing, but considering her size and
the size of the boys, I don't think it's too uncommon.
I just look and asked why she would say something
so disrespectful about her sister. She told me it's just
the truth, and that I would realize ugly scars down
there would be a total turn off. She then leaned
across the table and did that thing girls do to
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make their front air bags look bigger by crossing her
arms under them and squeezing, and said, I know you
only really wanted her as a mother because of the
nursing thing.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Oh lord, and now she's starting with them. No, I
want to be married to your sister, not you.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
She's out of the house. If i'm husband, Hey, you're
no longer welcome here. You have to leave, actually exactly immediately.
I'm not entertaining this. Bye, not entertaining this for five seconds.
It's absurd. And then she went on about how much
happier I would be with someone more on my level.
I told her, in no uncertain terms that she wasn't
anywhere near my level, and she could forget ever reaching
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my wife's level. I told her that being a swindler
and not respecting herself online and to guys didn't make
her this hot and attractive thing that she thinks she is.
It's actually sad to watch because everyone knows she can
do so much better and would be great at whatever
she puts herself too, but she chooses the disappearing acts
who would pay for her photos instead. I told her
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my wife worked until eight months while pregnant with twins,
how she does volunteer work for the animal shelter, how
she still fusses over me even though we now have
the boys, and how just amazing I really think she is.
I told her she could never even scratch at the
level of my wife, so to take her weirdness out
of my house, and I just walked her out. Thank you,
Thank you, Op, for God's sakes, thank you. So many
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stories we hear, We're like, oh, you don't get.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
You just consulted your wife out of there.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
It's crazy you said that, because now you have to
say it outside, say it to the wind. I pulled
the parents aside and explained what happened, and then sent
them the kitchen video of it, because we have indoor
security cameras in the common areas for security kitchen facing
the back door living room. They were livid, but it
me not her. They stormed out for disrespecting their younger
daughter in a way that made her cry, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
And then I would say, okay, well she disrespected my
wife life and that's my priority.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
And now suddenly all of the behavior makes perfect sense. Yes,
because her parents have failed her. After showing my wife,
she thought I was a little harsh and shutting her down,
but was so thankful I made her leave and stood
up for her. My sister in law and her parents
are demanding an apology, but I'm not going to am
I the AhR. No.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
No, you're standing up for your wife, defending your wife,
defending your.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Wife, defending, defending your wife, immediately, defending your wife, immediately.
That's what we should all do. Defend your wife, defend
your wife. Comment one, I apologize that sister in law
is a lazy, selfish, money hungry man eating trullop who
thinks trying to seduce the husband of her sister who
just gave birth. Opie said yes, her propositioning Opie is
as f I suggest making a small clip of that
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and sending it to the parents anytime they attempt to
get an apology. Number two, I have a cousin who's
like sister in law. People like her are never happy
and to get bitter and jealous of anyone who's doing
any better than they are, even if it means that
the person is simply happier with their lives than they are.
It's pretty horrendous. Honestly, I tell Opie not to apologize.
She deserves exactly what she's got. Honestly, I'd have nothing
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to do with her if I was Opie or his wife.
Any sister that could try it on with her sister's
husband isn't worth having a relationship with. I'm konfuzzled, kurfuffled, bamboozled.
Your in laws are mad at you for what shutting
down a hail Mary come on from their failure to
launch daughter while actively cooing over their new grandson in
their other daughters, your wife's house.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
It's complicated and it still makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, it's just you're not the a hole, all right.
We're just gonna leave it at the bilootzy I did
not expect this kind of response. I've tried to keep
up with comments, but I immediately started on the issues
addressed by the first few comments, as well as the
immediate fallout. I want to thank everyone who took the
time to respond and give me great ideas for how
to respond to the demands for apologies. This warmth and
support made me feel like I did something right. A
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few things to touch on before the update. I saw
a few reoccurring questions in my DMS and comments. Yes,
my wife does animal shelter work. I am very allergic
to cats and she has a deep fear of dogs.
I've suggested birds or rabbits, but she says there's special
care for them and worries.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
We won't do it.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Well.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I did not mean to slute shame my sister in law,
but I guess that's how it came across. I just
thought it was laughable that she wanted to try anything
with me, of all people, when I know the games
she plays with guys. She'll scam older man out of
gift cards online and string them along with pictures so
they keep giving her money. He never meets up with them,
despite all the promises to do so. I work from
home and make a very decent living. That said, because
of my wife's direction, we have bought a house, put
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money into savings, and paid off almost all of our
student loan. I think sister in law wants what we have,
small weekend getaways, a basement gym, and a small flower
garden in the front. We aren't living it up, but
it's better than her bedroom met her parents. My wife
doesn't usually creep on my Reddit, but she listens to
them ida whole subreddit from this one guy, so my
friends suggested here. I doubt she knows this spot. Keeping
the family away for a couple weeks was not a
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power trip. They all met them at the hospital. She
wanted time to recover and spend time with the babies
without having to play host, keep the house clean with
extra people, and neglect her own needs. They are also
her first kids, so this has been a lot for her.
If you think wanting space to heal and bond is
a power trip, you need some reflection. Is your family
so toxic that they wouldn't let you rest after something
as huge as childbirth? I think my wife has a
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great shiny spine. She tends to bite, not literally she
has been having a lot of emotional issue since the birth,
so I think she was numb.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
To what happened.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
It might be shocked, but I did find her crying
about it that night. And here comes the update. After
they left. I took a couple of hours before posting
because I felt I made my wife upset and I
hate doing that. Apparently, in that time, my wife and
I were blocked from my sister in law social media,
and I was blocked by her parents. By the time
I posted, I missed like forty some calls and messages.
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I assumed it was her parents still bugging about the apology,
or her texting to call me names. I went downstairs
to find my wife in tears because someone had the
gall to be screaming down the phone at her. It
was her uncle. I took the phone shouted him down
until he explained what he heard. Apparently, sister in law
immediately went around claiming I was a disgusting pig who
touched her inappropriately and said all the terrible things she
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had said to me. The uncle was pissed at my
wife for defending me. I cut the call and sent
the video. I tried to check her accounts and found
I was blocked. My wife tried and found she was blocked.
I checked my phone and all the ignored noise was
various family members on her side. I didn't bother calling them.
I just sent the video to each and every one
of them, then posted it to all of my accounts
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and tagged her and her parents. I used my wife's
phone to post it to her parents account with her permission.
I sat down with my wife to ask what she
wanted to do, but she just started crying. Eventually, she
said she hated them and started to cry even more.
Clearly she wasn't in a good headspace to make decisions
that affected anything long term. So I suggested we just
go no contact temporarily and after some time discuss if
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we make it permanent or not, and she agreed. I
suggested therapy. Thank you everyone, because I would not have
thought about this myself. She was hesitant, but after a
bit of pushing, she agreed. I didn't believe about it.
I just pointed out this was all terrible and that
she went through so much, and that while I can
listen and snuggle her, I'm not unbiased and I don't
have all the tools that therapist would. She doesn't seem depressed,
but all the crying is getting to me. I hate
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seeing her like this. I asked that we changed the
locks and add a few more cameras outside, and she agreed.
I asked if she wanted me to tell my parents
they can't have a key or need to wait a
few more days to visit, but she said they can
come and have a key. My mom and wife don't
always see eye to eye, but tend to team up
against me. The noise died down by dinner time, but
there were almost no apologies. A few cousins apologized to
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my wife and her aunt. I told our friends what happened,
and they brought over my wife's favorite dinner and my
favorite snacks. Her bff stayed the night. My one friend
suggested getting a lawyer involved for the attempt at slander.
He knows a guy and I now have a meeting
with him. I didn't tell my wife. I just want
to see what the options are. She needs some rest
before we really do anything. My parents are now over
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and I slipped away for the update. My mother offered
to stay for a few days to cook and clean,
and I think my wife might accept it. She showed
us how to swaddle the boys and gave us all
these warnings against juice and bottles at bedtime when they
were older because it could rop their teeth. It started
a whole conversation about no cereal in milk bottles because
of jokeing hazards and other things. I think the baby
talk has taken her mind off things. Her BFF has
been playing a weird mix of guard dog and Mama
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Bear to my wife, and I'm glad she has the support.
The BFF checks and screens the calls or messages before
letting my wife see anything, and if it's terrible, she
has permission to send the video. And this is all
at my wife's request. She doesn't want to face hate
from her family right now. I managed to get screenshots
of the post from friends. I had these same friends
creep their profiles this morning and the posts have been removed.
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Apparently it turned into a blood bath and the comments
going from support to outrage at being lied to. We
got a few more apologies, and these sounded sincere, and
they admitted they were too ashamed to talk to us
yesterday after the video was sent. But by the way,
I will never be ashamed of you. Listening to full
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to do is search Okay story time, and there you
can listen to all of the stories all of the time.
There's a little bit more story here.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I mean, I think I'll p handle it really well.
I think that he protected his wife. I think that
who cares if the rest of the family is thinking, well,
you were mean.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
To her, Like it's like, dude, she literally I had
there's footage. I have footage of this woman trying to
home wreck us, very unsuccessfully and disparaging my wife, your daughter.
I've still banned the rest of her family from visiting
until further notice. It is info diet time for them
as well, until we know who won't feed pictures or
info to those three horrible people. My wife blocked your
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sister this morning from her phone, but I'm leaving them
unblocked so if they try anything, I have proof, and
I think that's it unpleasant. I knew they favored sister
in law, but didn't realize that it was this much.
I'm going to help my wife find a therapist in
the next few days. Any questions I will try to answer,
and that.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Is the end.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I revealed my sister's secret to my cousin and they
both cut me off.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
That's your dirty little secret.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
So this is gonna be a long one. Apologies for that.
Everything happened over the span of five months. I twenty
seven male, in, my non blood related sister Lily twenty
two female, and I'll moved to Australia together at the
beginning of twenty twenty three. Lily had been dating my
cousin they are not related, for six months before our trip.
By the way, this comes from user obvious ad three
seven seven seven and if you want to submit your
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own stories, go to the r slash okay storytime subreddit.
So making the trip was a lot of money, which
neither of us paid for because my stepmom, her godmother
and the reason that we met eighteen plus years ago,
paid for everything for both of us. She is by
no means rich. She just works her butt off Sunday
to Sunday and makes money. Accordingly, a little backstory, I
decided to move to the other side of the world
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because three years ago my dad was diagnosed with I
quit my job, stopped meeting with friends, and did everything
I could to take care of all of his medical
needs doctor appointments, medical tests, insurance claims, driving him, et cetera,
to the point that my life was put on hold.
If I wasn't taking care of him, I was taking
care of my younger siblings, five male and ten female,
which was a lot. My dad was doing much better
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and I needed a way to restart my life, so
that's why I decided to come to Australia. Had a
plan way before I did, and I'm the one who
decided to join her eight months before her departure. Before
coming here, Lily and I were really close, especially in
the last couple of years. We went out together, told
each other everything, and she was the first person in
my family that I came out to. The trust levels
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were truly through the roof. But everything changed after we
got to Australia. Dnanda she was in this mood where
she hated it here, so she didn't want to do anything,
including getting a job. The deal with our step mom
was that she would pay for us to come here,
but that was it. She would not be supporting us
while here since it was way too expensive, so food
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and rent were on us, which is more than fair.
We booked an airbnb for a week a couple of
months in advance. I paid with my credit card and
she said that she would send me the money later
that day. Spoiler alert, she didn't. During our first week here,
I wanted to save as much cash as possible, as
finding a job could have taken a while, so I
was paying for everything with my credit card. Lily did
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not have one. We agreed to split everything fifty to fifty.
So the idea was that once she found a job,
she would give me her part of the bill to
pay off my card.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
Let me yet spoiler alert, that also didn't happen. It's
a lot of spoiler alerts in this.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
There's nothing that'll get between two people faster than money. Honestly,
you gotta be really, really clear.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
That's usually moving through that. That's one of the biggest
factors for divorce.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, consider it, consider that.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Consider it.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Marked Lily found a weekend job on our second day here.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
This was all in one day.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Excuse me, Why were you saying that she wasn't going
to get a job. It was one day?
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Yeah, Oh pee, relax, We just got here I'm a
little jetlize.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
She didn't get a job her first day there. Why
are we talking about it? Okay? Moving on. Lily found
a weekend job on our second day here. However, she
kept complaining about it. Mind you, she doesn't speak English
on a conversational level, so her options were rather limited.
She worked there for two weekends before she just stopped going,
first because she was feeling sick, and then because she
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was getting her period, and then she was sick again. However,
this only seemed to happen during the weekend when it
was time to go to work, not the night before
at four am when she was talking over the phone
with her boyfriend. She got paid on a daily basis
for a couple of days she worked there, but I
never saw a single cent of that money, the money
that she already.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Owed me at that point. Spoiler alert.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Another major thing happened after our airbnb rental was over.
We couldn't find a place to live. The airbnb was
already booked for the next day, so we had no
choice but to take our bags and leave. We were
literally homeless. Hotels and hostels were insanely expensive. Weekly rent
was around three hundred and fifty bucks, while the cheapest
trashiest hotel was one hundred and ninety per night. A
random stranger from a Facebook group and his wife offered
us their couch if they were going to be acts
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that point, we didn't care. We had never met these
people before and they had no obligation whatsoever to help us,
but they still did. They offered us their living room
for a week while I found a room for us,
but it wasn't going to be available until the following week.
During this time, Lily was glued to her phone and headphones.
She would go to sleep with her headphones on talking
to her boyfriend. She went to class while talking on
the phone. She came home and went to sleep while
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talking on the phone.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
You get it.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
One day she started crying, but for once, not while
on the phone. Everyone in the house assumed that she
was sad because of her boyfriend, and for some reason
this really pissed her off. She got so mad that
she just stood up and left mid conversation. After twenty minutes,
she came back, sat down and said to the house owners,
I thank you for what you are doing for us,
but do not talk about my partner because you don't
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know him and it's none of your business. With the
rudest attitude in the world.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
So she's ungrateful.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
It really sounds like someone was completely unprepared to move
to Australia, and I'm not gonna lie. It sounds like
both of you were not ready at all.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Like you see that coming. You know what that is?
It's reality?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, dude, uh oh, you need to have more than
Airbnb lined up. You need to have something lined up
beyond just we'll figure it out.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
You can't do that in another country that you are
not remotely even close to knowing. Sorry, that's just how
reality words. I feel like you guys are.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Like, we have a dream right anyways? Mind you If
they had wanted to kick us out right there, they
could have, and they almost did. I had to smooth
things out after that. We moved to our new place.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
We were sharing a room.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Now we were supposed to split the rent in half.
Something about me is that I hate reminding people to
pay me or asking for money. I believe people are
mature enough to know what they owe and pay for themselves,
especially when it comes to rent. The plan was that
she would transfer me her half of the rent every week.
And I would then send the money to the owner. However,
because I wasn't constantly reminding her, she would often forget
until three weeks later, when I had no choice but
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to ask. But as you can imagine, because it was
now three weeks worth of rent, Lily's response was, Oh, sorry,
I don't have that much money. I'll give you half
this week and the other half later on. And this
became a pattern with her. OPI that's kind of on you, dude,
one hundred percent. I have no empathy for you, being like,
I don't want to tell her she needs to pay me.
Speaker 7 (18:54):
Bro, rent is a very important thing unless if you
know you can cover it, and you know you get
your money back. It doesn't happen consistently, that's fine, But
this is going to be happening. I don't know consistently.
It already has. Yeah, it's kind of your fault. Is
it right that she is like, oops, I forgot.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Of course not, we're not.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
The realistic solution to that to just not ask her
or remind her or be on top of her about
re touchy subject.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
I don't want to have confrontation and like it's fine,
it's fine, it's fine.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
It's fine.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
It's not fine. None of us is fine.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, I would be immediately looking for a new roommate
situation because you and Lily, I know you guys have
this history. But it's like, this is not gonna work.
I can't pay rent.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
It's I think it's time for conversation. You know what.
I think we pack our bags and we just go
back home.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
Yeah, it could be this is that might that conversation
might need to come up because this is not going
so it's not going to.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Work long term.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So when I came home, she would be like, aren't
you hungry, Let's go for some KFC. And then as
we were in line, she would suddenly stay on her
phone in the back, pretending to be busy when it
was our turn to order and pay. So I would
order and pay, and then she would proceed to ask
what did you get us? This happens several times, and
not once did she pay for me or send me
any money. When we did this with friend ordering a
big shared combo and it was time to send the
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person who paid the money, it was expected for me
to cover her part. People thought about us as one
individual though. I think this is what I told myself
to deal with the situation, as I was too embarrassed
to let others deal with her. Now, some random stuff
that happened in no particular order, but little by little
added to my patients collapsing. I would leave the house
at seven am to go to class, and on days
that I didn't have work, I would come back at
two pm. She would still be sleeping. Her classes started
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at one pm. She would still usually leave the house
around three pm and come back at five pm, even
though her class is finished at six pm. So yeah,
every Friday I would text her three times eight am
when I left the house, one pm when I was
on my way back to work, and at six pm
when I was on my break. I'd say, hey, please
don't forget to send me the money for rent. She
would often do it by the next day, even though
we were supposed to pay it first thing in the morning.
On Fridays, it was impossible to have a conversation with her,
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and she was always on the phone with her boyfriend.
This was confirmed by our housemate, as even watching a
movie together was not possible. She made a list of
quote unquote room rules in a very passive aggressive way.
One day, she got a board marker and wrote a
bunch of rules on the closets mirror. I got back
from work to at least five rules written all over
my mirror without prior discussion. These were all things that
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made sense, and since I was used to living alone,
I was not aware that they were bothering her. They
were simple things like, don't leave the shoes around, put
them inside the closet after you take them off, don't
leave random items on the nightstand, use the drawers to
put said items in. Blah blah blah blah blah. And
if I gotta be honest, if she said that to me,
I'd cross out every single one and write over it,
pay me my money, That's what I would write.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
But I would also follow those rules.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Sure, but like, you're not even paying rent, you don't
have a leg to stand on in terms of telling
me what I need to be doing. Do you need
to pay me the money you owe me?
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Yeah, if she was paying rent, that would make sense,
But she's not paying any proportions.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
So in this case, she's not really your roommate.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
She's just a rude person writing you passive aggressive.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Notes in a mirror.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
She did get a job well paying and at ten
minute walk from our house, with many hours available perfect well.
On her first day, she lied and said she had
to leave early due to a school assignment. And at
that point she had already dropped out of her English
class because and I quote, she felt annoyed because a
customer looked at her weirdly. She did nails, so it
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was a nail salon. She then proceeded to ignore the
text messages from the owner asking if she could work
an extra day for three days straight after that, she
showed up late and then was surprised they fired her.
So she also had a past of being disrespectful. One
time she full on had spicy sleep with her boyfriend
under the blankets while the three of us were watching
a movie in my room.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
That's foul. That's foul.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Another time when we fell asleep in my bed. I
only found out months later when she told me while
she was wasted. We had a really good relationship with David,
our housemate, and I didn't want to worry about walking
in on them doing stuff in the living room or
under a blanket while watching a movie. So I literally
said to her, if you want to hook up with
Rando's go for it. If you want to cheat on
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your boyfriend, you go, girl, But just not with David Lee's.
She would always make me feel crazy for even thinking
that she would do something like that. And this is
important to remember again, David is the housemate in the
place that they're living right now. Three weeks after coming
to Australia, she met a guy. He was tall, single, ish,
that's a whole different story on it, and seemed very
interested in her. She was still together with her boyfriend
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at the time, saying I love you over the phone,
then hanging up claiming she was going to take an
app only to call the new guy, Sam forty two
male to pick her up. I will admit I also
enabled her to start seeing this man, saying stuff like
enjoy your life, enjoy your youth. You were also super
broke at the time, and the guy had money to
spare and he didn't have any hobbies, so he would
take her out to fancy restaurants. She started staying over
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at Sam's more and more each week, to the point
that David and I would only see her once or
twice a week when she dropped by to wash her
clothes and or pick up new ones.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
I don't like that you condone her on cheating. You
literally said go cheat. I would have been like, hey,
before you do that, what about your hmm boyfriend?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, it's like when you go enjoy your youth, that's
not like be adulterist. That's like, hey, so if you're
feeling like you want to go explore with this other guy,
break up with your boyfriend. Let him know that you
have feelings you want to explore and that you guys
just need to move on. Well that's fine, that's the
healthy thing to do.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
If you broke up with your boyfriend.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
Great, but guess what again, her personality is talking to
her boyfriend all the time.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Even David randomly said to me, man, we live so
comfortably and hassle free when it's just the two of us.
Huh So, yeah, it wasn't just me. At this point,
she was working doing nails at Sam's house, getting clients
through Facebook groups, but she still hadn't paid me a
single cent to help with my credit card debt. A
couple months into being with Sam, she decides to break
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up with her boyfriend, not because of Sam, but because
they had been doing long distance for four months or
so and it wasn't working.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
I wonder why.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I'm gonna need you to read that one more time,
chief and get back to me.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
One random day, after I came back from work, David
was feeling really down. He asked me to go out
for a drink. I had the next day off, so
I agreed, as I would have worried if he left
alone in the state he was in. It was a
good night. We drank, we danced, and chatted with strangers. Overall,
it was a good time. We were having our last
little drinki poo and talking about random stuff when he
confessed that he now felt grossed out that he and
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Lily had kissed twice before, shocked as she was like
family to him.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
Now, Oh, don't say that.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I was like, excuse me, what do you mean. He
then confessed that they had made out twice a couple
months ago, but Lily told him not to say anything
to me. At that point. I wasn't even mad about
the kiss. Had they told me when it happened, I
would have been like, I mean whatever, buy me a
drink and moved on. However, it was the gas lighting
from Lily that made me feel crazy. Fact that it
was the only thing I had ever asked of her,
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and she couldn't even do that for me. Plus I
had already been dealing with everything I listed before for
five months. I knew I wanted out out of the
situation and out of Lily's life, but I didn't have
the heart to just leave her, because if she ever
knew anything, I would have wanted to help her. So
in my head, and this is where I may be
the a hole as I could have just been trying
to justify my actions, I reached the conclusion that I
couldn't leave her. However, I could do something so she
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would leave me on her own accord. What are you doing? Guys?
This is a perfect example of how how not to
interact with somebody that you need to have a whole
doing talk with you.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
You're doing all the things that you should be doing.
You're like, I could communicate with her, but I'm not
going to. I could leave her, I'm not going to.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, Instead, I'm gonna like make like a weird scheme
to get her to leave me. I took my phone
and called my cousin. They were already broken up, my
cousin and Lily, but they still talked on the phone
every single day, and as far as I knew, they
still promised to get back together in the future. And
I told him everything. Uh ah, oh my god. It's
like a black hole just formed in the center of
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my chest.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
What runs in this family?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
What is going on? Remember that time you called me
and asked me if Lily was okay, but she was
feeling sick and her phone was off. I said I
was working and wasn't home. Well that was a lie.
She went to the beach with Sam, turned her phone
off and I was home watching a movie with David.
Remember on her birthday she sent you a picture but
neither David nor I were in it, despite living with her.
Well that's because that was Sam's house. This is your
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way getting back at Lily.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Bro.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
You're just you're justice toxic as everybody else.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
You're everyone suck Now everyone in this stories because now
you're bringing down You should have done this a long
time ago. But you know what, what in Australia, I
guess I don't know. This is insane to me.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Sam's even in the picture that she sent you, wearing
matching coats that he got her for her birthday. He
was broken.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Congratulations you made him feel terrible when you should have
told them a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I texted him in the morning to see how he
was doing, but to my surprise, he had deleted me
from Facebook and then followed me on Instagram. Meanwhile, Lily
had blocked me from everything.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Congratulations, you did the stupidest thing possible.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Well there, Yeah, that was your goal, wasn't it.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
You know she would have done that a long time ago.
Go oh, I would feel bad.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
She probably would have blocked you if you were just like,
I need you to give me the money you owe
me or be gone by next week.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
I mean I would have done the you know, give
me the money or I'm gonna tell my cousin your boyfriend.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
Holy crap about Sam.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
She came to the house two days later saying she
was moving out and was there to collect her things,
and that was the last day we spoke. The end
of June twenty twenty three. I didn't hear from her
until September of this year, when my dad passed away.
It was a simple short message, I am back in
my country as I came to spend my dad's last
days with him and help my family. As far as
I know, she is still in Australia. I don't know
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how or where. Oh and she and my cousins still
talk every day. I know this from my aunt. And
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have another little bit of story left here. Honestly, I
think we're on the same page here right. If Op
would have just commune shat Lily down and said, I'm
going to tell you some stuff, this isn't really a discussion.
I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
These this is crazy.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
This is not a debate. This is the reality of
the situation. If you can't pay me rent, if you
can't do this, if you can't give me the money
that you owe me, we're gonna have to not be roommates.
They're gonna have to figure something out out.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
I just met you through the story, and y'all are crazy,
So just stop talking like that's crazy, To stop talking
to each other, that's crazy. The fact that your cousin
is still talking to Lily after you told them the
truth is even.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, poor cousin aid I feel so bad because but yeah,
you you are. You know, Lily is the catalyst for
all of this negativity. But like you fueled it, my goy.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
You you know it was You's like, oh, there's a
fire over there, let me throw some gasoline over there.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
You threw napalm on it, dude. Yeah, anyway, let's finish
this story. I'm aware that it seemed like I could
have handled things in a better way. Maybe I could have. No,
that's definitely you could have. However, it was not really
possible to tell her anything at the time, as she
would get defensive and retaliate right away.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
Oh so you're scared of Lily. Why are you scared
of Lily? What did she hold over your head? She
held nothing over you.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
My life in Australia took an upgrade after that. I
found a better place to live, got along amazingly with
my new roommate, to the point that we still talk
even six months after I came back to my country.
I got a full time job, so my money issues disappeared.
I met new amazing people. Over All, my time in Australia,
despite the rocky start, was amazing and I'm glad I
did what I did. And that is the end of ours.
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A fair story, frustrating story.
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Hi Emil twenty one at the time, met my husband
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Story jumps up right and at first everything seemed okay,
mostly because they were treating me nicely at his house. However,
I started noticing small things about my mother in law
that felt For example, when I told her I wasn't hungry,
she jokingly told me to eat poop, but she sounded
very serious to me. Another time, I mentioned that I
hated the Mexican dish pasole. I'm Mexican but born in Texas,
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and she took it as a challenge. She made it
pasoli just to try and change my mind. It didn't work,
by the way. She also seemed to have a competitive streak.
Whenever I complimented my mom and sister's green spaghetti, she
would always say that she makes it really good. She
constantly tried to prove she was a better spoiler. She wasn't.
Her food always liked flavor. Moving on, she helped my
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husband apply for jobs, and he got hired right away
at a meat market near the house so he could
walk to work every day. She would tell him that
when he got his first paycheck, he should buy me
things I needed, like feminine products and other essentials. But
when he got paid, she suddenly told him to save it.
That didn't bother me too much because I had taken
some femina products from my grandma's house either with my
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grandma before moving in with my in laws. However, that
same night, my mother in law called my husband into
her room. When he came back, he told me that
she had asked him to buy her something. I reminded
him that she had just told him to save his money,
so that's what he needed to do. He told his
mom he would save it and that was that. I
also noticed that she would constantly ask my husband to
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buy her things at the store. One time, he only
had thirty bucks on his card and he wanted to
buy ingredients to make green spaghetti because he had been
craving it, but she wanted him to buy a sixty
count carton of eggs, which would cost fourteen bucks at time.
He explained to her that he really wanted to make
the green spaghetti. She got mad and said, fine, but
you were not going to get from my milk, so
we had to buy her own milk. Another important detail,
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my husband was receiving SSI at the time due to
his ADHD and autism. When he was under age, his
mom had control of the money, but when he turned eighteen,
he was finally able to receive it himself. That's when
he was informed that he owed six thousand dollars. Technically,
his mom owed it, but they were going to deduct
around ninety from his monthly paychecks. This is important because
my husband has been telling his mom that he needed
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to get his yearly shot after turning eighteen, but she
always brushed it off, saying it's not an important right now. However,
when SSI wanted him to go to an appointment to
continue receiving benefits, she gladly took him. How is a
yearly shot to protect his health not important? But securing
SSI payments is She even told me to convince him
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to put her as the payee of his SSI so
she could receive the money. I just replied with, I'll
tell him. Of course I did tell him, but I
also explained why that was a terrible idea. If she
got control of the money, he wouldn't have any say
in how it was spent. Fast forward to my birthday.
My husband was working, so I walked to his job
to bring him lunch. He told me that since it
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was my birthday, he wanted to take me to the
restaurant next door. We went, ordered food and sat down.
While we were eating, his mom called him. I couldn't
hear what she was saying, but after he hung up,
he told me she was mad that he was spending money.
He reassured her that he could work extra hours. I
thought that was really rude. He just wanted to do
something sweet for my birthday, but she got upset over it.
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Here's the thing, though, my sister in law and I
share the same birth month. My birthday is on the
twenty third and hers is on the twenty sixth. Best
forward to her birthday, my mother in law takes us
to the exact same restaurant. That's not weird since it's
a popular spot. But what annoyed me was that she
told my husband to buy food for me, himself, and
one of his other sisters, not the birthday girl. I
was frustrated because apparently it was okay for him to
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spend money for her birthday, but she got mad when
he spent money on mine. On top of that, my
birthday dinner was actually our first official date. We had
gotten together so fast that we never I had the
chance to go on a real date before then. The
whole time I noticed she basically wanted hughes him for
his money. I called her out on how she was
acting and pointed out the pattern I had noticed. She
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responded by calling me crazy and saying I should be
sent to a mental hospital. After that argument, we moved
in with my grandma A few weeks later, my husband
started talking to his aunt, his mom's stepsister. She mentioned
that his mom was a bad person, in her exact words,
a narcissistic person, toxic and crazy lady. Then she told
us something that shocked me. His mom had sold her
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sister's car and told everyone it was stolen.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Oh wow, hey, look at the mom. It's the common
denominator again.
Speaker 8 (35:39):
The police were called and when they found the man
driving the car, he admitted that my mother in law
had sold it to him. And the craziest part, she
sold the car because she wanted to get life posuction.
My husband's aunt warned us to stay away from her
because she only cares about money and uses people to
get it. Let me know if you want a part too.
Because we ended up moving back in with them a
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second time, I learned my lesson the first time, but
my husband and sister would go back because they promised
to help him get a job, and of course, even
more drama unfolded. We got an update. We moved back
in on October of twenty twenty four and my husband
got through job they told him they would help him get.
While we were there, everything felt normal again. They weren't
mean to me at all. I found out though through
my sister in law, the one I thought was nice
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and he mom hates me. She told me that her
mom said she doesn't like me for her son. My
sister in law also told me that my mother in
law said I supposedly had surgery because I look skinnier.
I was one hundred and fifty pounds when I got
with my husband, but after everything I went through with
his mom, I wouldn't eat much, and also when I
go outside, I developed a vitamin D deficiency. Where a
normal level is thirty through one hundred, mine was at
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nine and I had to take five hundred milligrams of
vitamin D for a couple of months, one pill every week.
Because of that, I lost a lot of weight in
just a few months. In one month, I even lost
seventeen pounds and now I weigh one hundred and twenty
six pounds. When my sister in law told me what
my mother in law said, I explained that I only
ate two miay and some days only e once. I
am healthier now and I don't let people get to me.
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She also told me that the first time we left,
when my husband gave them back the phone they got
for him. He paid for it, but it was on
their plan. My other sister in law, the one just
like her mom, took screenshots of mine and my husband's
messages and sent them to my mother in law. My
husband had asked for help in resetting the phone because
he didn't know how to do it himself. But to
be honest, I don't know if what she told me
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is true because she says things that are hard to believe.
My husband has told me she lies a lot. One time,
when I was hanging out with her, she showed me
a picture of one of my husband's ex girlfriends and
said she's really pretty. I didn't say anything to her,
but I told my husband that He said she wouldn't
be coming into our room again. Throughout the days, it
was the same thing. My mother in law would ask
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my husband to buy her things, and when he asked her,
she would say, you have money. He even gave them
one hundred and fifty dollars for their car insurance. But
I'm sure they had money because my mother in law
makes two thousand dollars a month and her has been
made six thousand dollars a month. One time, we were
all at the mall and she told him, if you
buy me and your sister are perfume from simfora I'll
buy you a Lego set. My husband got them perfumes,
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which cost seventy five dollars and when he said, okay,
now you buy me a Lego set, she said, I
said for Christmas. When Christmas came, she didn't get it
for him. Also, my mother in law wanted me to
apply for food stamps. I told her I called and
they said the whole household income effects eligibility, even if
it's just for me and my husband. Since they make
too much money, we wouldn't qualify. She told me to
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use my grandma's address instead. I told her that it's illegal,
and she said she would show me how to do
it when she got home. She said she was at
work at the time. I explained that I wasn't going
to do that, and she said okay. I told my
husband's aunt what mother in law said about using grandma's address,
and she told me my mother in law is used
to committing fraud to get money. She warned me not
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to do it. I explained that I would never do it.
I still have the screenshots of those messages. Before we
even moved back for the second time. My mother in
law got cheated on for the fifth or six times.
Oh turns out she keeps staying with her husband even
though he cheats. My husband's aunt said that my mother
in law lets me cheat on her as long as
they make good money. She even let her ex husband,
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my husband's dad, cheat on her until he walked in
on her with another man in bed, which is when
they separated. I know that's none of my business, but
here's the thing. While we were there, they kept telling
my husband that he has no how do I say this? Basically,
that he's not a man. They would say it jokingly,
but it still made me mad, and it bothered my husband.
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How is a man who cheats on his wife going
to tell another man that he's not a man. My
mother in law would also say that she wears the
pants in the relationship, even though it's clear that she doesn't.
We noticed they mostly bought food for themselves. Meanwhile, we
had to buy food for everyone. They had food they
didn't want to share, but we had to share everything
we bought. I didn't mind sharing, but it wasn't fair.
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Fast forward, my husband had a problem with a guy
at work and had to quit. My mother in law
and father in law told us that if he didn't
get another job, then he would have to leave. They
told us to choose. We decided to leave because we
already saw that mother in law had it changed at all.
She was just being nice to get my husband's money. Honestly,
feel like she didn't want us to save up and
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move out, so she kept asking for money. We decided
to leave. I called my mom and she came to
help us take our things to her house. The first
trip was fine. When we got back to get the
rest of our stuff. While we were driving back, my
husband got a text from his sister, the mean one,
saying that he had to bring back the puppy he
was buying from his mom. They had agreed to a
monthly payment of one hundred bucks for three months. She
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said if he didn't return the dog, they wouldn't give
us the rest of our things. My husband called the
cops and we waited outside the house. Mother in law
was at work the whole time. His stepdad was laughing
at him and waving a bill in a sand saying
he had to pay for it. Okay, My mean sister
in law was on the phone telling people or her
friends that we were causing a scene again. When the
cops arrived, they told my husband that's since we technically
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still lived there, he could come back another day, jump
the fence, break the windows and get our stuff, but
that would be legal and they wouldn't arrest them. They
said the dog situation wasn't the problem and that they
couldn't do anything about him. They told my husband's stepdad
that they the comps couldn't make him pay the bill
because it had nothing to do with him. Now, I
want to mention that when we started living there, it
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was October twenty something, and my husband paid the bills
in advance, even though they weren't his responsibility yet he
did it just to be nice. But in the end
we still had to give the dog back, even though
my husband had already paid two hundred dollars for it. Also,
my husband told me they took our stuff to their
room and then put it back in hours when we
were going to take it out of the house. By
the way, we won't take you out unless you go
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While we were taking our things, his stepdad told me
that my husband had to pay the bills. I told
him that since my husband had already paid for the
bills that wasn't his responsibility when we first got there,
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he shouldn't have to pay now and should call it.
Even his stepdad said no, no one told him to.
I told him, well, he's not going to pay, and
he responded off on a way to make him pay.
We left and never looked back. Yes, my husband's aunt
was mad at us for going back in the first
time cause she had warned us that my mother in
law is self absorbed person, toxic and crazy. And that
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is the end of that crazy story. Yikes, dude, people
people these days.
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Speaker 1 (42:41):
I'm betting my sister in law for my future running
up because she disrespected me.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Oh the in laws and their joys.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
So I want to make something clear from the starts.
I'm not even engaged yet, so nothing I'm saying right
now is satten down. So there's a very real chance
something could change when we do. But right now this
is how I feel, and I have been told I'm
being an a hole. By the way, this comes from
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Speaker 5 (43:10):
So I read it.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
My partner, twenty two male and I twenty two female,
have been talking about getting married. We've been together for
almost four years and he keeps teasing about how he's
got this huge plan.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
We have been.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Planning it kind of to the point where I know
where I want to get my dress from, the color scheme,
and generally what I want from the day for the
most part, is going to be a very non traditional
wedding from what both of us have agreed, not very big,
some traditional things, but we'd rather spend more money on
the honeymoon than the wedding. Anyways, my one big request
with our list of family and friends coming is I
don't want to invite anyone who doesn't support us or who.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
Has caused us any kind of trouble slash trauma.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Throughout a relationship. Yeah, ban all the drama people. You
want your wedding to be a freaking five their.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Dude, why would you want anyone who's like a drama
source in your life out of celebration of your.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Relationship unless you want your wedding to be remembered for
that drama. Yes, which is you know sometimes something fun.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
That would be a bold move to be, like I
want my way to yea full of drama. Also shout
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Speaker 1 (44:09):
My mother isn't invited due to being no contact, and
there's a few others who are kind of in a
hot list for maybe not being invited because they may
cause drama.
Speaker 5 (44:17):
So income sister in law, she's twenty six, we'll call
her Sarah.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Sarah's always been rude to me from the very beginning.
She made it clear she didn't like me. For a
long time, I thought I was being crazy crazy style
for thinking so because I grew up being told I
was over dramatic, so I never really brought up that
I felt that way. To anyone, because I thought it
was just because she kind of has an aggressive personality,
rose a nurse and waitless professionally. But after dinner with
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my parents' family and our second year together, went back
to his dad's house. I was talking about getting one
of those low income bag credit card loans because even now,
the only way I'd be able to afford a car
anytime soon is I don't have family members who can
help out with it. Well, my partner's dad, respectfully, knightfully
try to tell me that was a bad idea. She
full on freaked out on me, yelling about how I
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can't do such a stupid thing, and I'd ruin my
partner's life more than I already have, and how dare
I think about bringing him down into my debt with
me again? We had only been dating two years and
even now have no plans to join our bank accounts
when we got married.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
That's weird. That's a weird reason.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
Sisters being weird. That's a little weird.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
It's quite a strange response.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
My man had my back and got really mad at
her and told her to stop being a jerk, which, yeah,
that's that's all.
Speaker 5 (45:26):
That's a jerky thing to do.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Later, Sarah texted both of us separately, her trying to
make an excuse about her behavior to me and to him,
saying she doesn't know me, that's why she's hesitant about me.
Almost four years in and she still hasn't made an
attempt to get to know me. And while she did
kind of stop being straight up about not liking me,
it was only in front of him she acted nice.
She'd wait till he left the table, sometimes grilled me
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about my life decisions and talk down to me, and
just continue to be mean for literally no reason.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
That's a classic Dio move right there.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Now, for context, my partner and I moved out together
in late twenty twenty one, and we had a sketchy
situation with our first roommates and ended up finding our
own place just for us. When that happen, I also
lost my job as an assistant manager. And the job
market in Alberta is a crap show, to say the least.
So while I've been working every job I can get,
none of them have lasted for one reason or another.
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None however, because I'm a bad worker, and I can
say got confidently because I was the only one who
showed up, stayed late, came.
Speaker 5 (46:23):
Early for every job. No matter what state I.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Was in mentally physically, I always showed up into my best.
But to Sarah, she sees that as me being a
deadbeat girlfriend, despiting not knowing any of the story or
seeing any of the bajillion resumes I said out on
the daily. She just wants to be you. I don't know,
that's weird.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
I feel like she's trying to steal you.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
It's kind of strange.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Anyways, Now I understand that she's worried about her brother,
but she didn't like me even before we moved out together,
and lately she's gotten balls yer again about baking it
known she does not like me. Fast forward to Christmas.
My partner and his mom went on our trip to
visit her because she lives out of province, and he
comes back to tell me she full on told him
she doesn't like me, but didn't give him a reason
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as to why she doesn't like.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah, the reason would be because she's a full on
sirce lanister dude, Oh you I mean grody makes where
complexes come from? Where it's like you don't even know
your your your brother's partner or your sibling's partner. And
then it's like they're like the scum of the earth
and they're the worst and they don't deserve them and
they can't have them.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
It's like, oh, he could just also be like an
attention thing. She thinks like she's gonna get less attention
from her brother because the brother's in a relationship.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
But you guys aren't twelve. You guys are like adults.
Of course you're gonna get less attention for some adults
are still as a white family, Like that's where he's.
Speaker 5 (47:38):
Going to still act like they're twelve.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Then the other night, we had a late Christmas dinner
because she was in town, and at the table while
I was having a conversation with him and his cousin
about something, she apparently made a passive aggressive comment.
Speaker 5 (47:49):
I didn't hear it because I was talking to his
cousin when she said it, and.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
My man lipped out on her, ooh there we go, man, go,
let's go, let's go. We love a man who flips that.
He walked away from the table, and I looked at
his cousin utterly confused, only to look over at his
sister and to see her back was fully facing me,
so I got up and went to ask what the
heckle just happened. The conversation was about something we lost.
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My man did a whole and apparently she said, well,
maybe since you're home all day, you could look for it,
since he's busy all day in school.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
Oh what Wait? What what just happened? What was that?
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Basically they lost something and she was like, maybe since
your home all day, you could look for it, since
he's busy all day with school.
Speaker 5 (48:32):
So like saying like, you should go look for it.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
And I thought it was fairly innocent when he told me,
compared to some of the other things she said to me.
But he said it was her tone that made it
something she didn't need to say. So back to the
whole wedding invite list. Longer story short, I don't want
to invite her cause she sucks. I have been working
a lot on my boundaries and again I don't want
anyone there who will cause drama or hasn't supported us
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in the past. Slash ben a doge douche canoe in
any sense. But I fear when I brought that up,
my partner wasn't exactly thrilled and thinks I'm being a
bit harsh since we could be a good on good
terms when we get married. My problem is I'm not
interested in reaching out because I didn't do anything to
her to warrant such bizarre behavior, and she's too egotistical
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to apologize or even realize she's been a jerk our
whole relationship.
Speaker 5 (49:19):
So am I the a hole?
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Were not wanting her at our wedding? There are some comments,
there are some updates. What do we think to her?
Speaker 2 (49:25):
First of all, she's not so oblivious that she doesn't
realize she's been being an a hole. She knows exactly
what she's been doing.
Speaker 5 (49:30):
She's doing it on purpose.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
She's been actively consciously choosing to be this way to you. Yeah,
that is, and it is more than evident by the
way that she switches up whenever certain people are around
versus when she's alone with you. You do not need
this creature at your wedding.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
This is ugg says, protect your peace. Your wedding should
be your most peaceful, joyous moment. And to have a
sister that's like a dummy to just corrupt that.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
No, why would you even why would the sister even
want want to go to the wedding. You don't like me,
you don't like me, why do you want to be here?
Speaker 1 (50:04):
But comment one, I think it's crazy to be planning
this far out. You don't even have a ring. Lots
can happen in a couple of years, and it sounds
like you might be that far out.
Speaker 5 (50:11):
That's true, it is Wait, there's no engagement nothing.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Yeah yeah, oh well then yeah, I said that I
wouldn't want her there either, But you have to accept
that it will be a big source of controversy in
his family coming to girl. You're only twenty two, not
even engaged. This is currently a non issue. When the
time does come and you actually start planning your wedding
after getting engaged, remember that this is his wedding too.
If he wants his sister there, she's going to be there.
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In four years of being together and her not liking you,
you have just stayed away from her, or have you
made attempts to be offend a befriender or even sat
her down yourself and asked her why she does not
like you. I will say not the a hole, but
only because it's not even a real situation. Because you're
not engaged, but based on the fact that you're coming
to Reddit, ask if you're an a hole over a
situation that you have essentially made up. I agree with
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whomever has told you told you you're dramatic. Hell, maybe
Sarah doesn't like thank you because you're dramatic and comment three,
not the a hole. Talk to your fiance. They're not
even engaged though, so it's not your fiance. Whether he's
fully on board with not inviting a sister. This is
one situation where I feel comfortable saying he's already showing support,
so you can afford to give a little more leeway.
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Consider a compromise like a family sit down, especially after
your engagement. Yeah, if it's once you get engaged, then
it's a thing, right. Use this time to address your
feelings and expectations and make sure that you and hubs
display a united front and make sure Cis is there
and maybe subject to no invitation due to bad behavior.
While you may not want to give her another chance,
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it might help foster peace for his sake. Set boundaries
together on how much more he's willing to tolerate from her,
ideally none, since he already recognizes her behavior is unacceptable.
Your desire to protect your boundaries and avoid drama is
completely valid. It's your wedding and it's important that you
both you and your fiance feel comfortable with the guest lists.
You're already showing great communication and approaching this together as
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a team will strengthen your relationship more. I sit down
might not fix everything, but it could bring clarity or
closure whether she's invited her or not. And there's a
little update. So someone in the comments asked how my
partners we will call him Tom now parents are with
Sarah Slash, my relationship with them to Tom's parents are
pretty nice people. They're divorced and with other partners now,
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but I would say I have a decent relationship with
both of them. Me and Tom's dad had a really
long conversation about life on Christmas. That kind of thing
settled my doubts about him possibly not liking me, because
he had a lot of really positive and very fatherly
things to say, sort of stop making me doubt. I
struggle with feeling as though I'm not liked pretty often,
so that's part of why I feel crazy when it
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comes to Sarah and his mom and I have a
good relationship as well. She's kind of offered in a
way to fill in for my own mom, even though
she doesn't know much of why my mom and I
are aren't on good terms. But Sarah has always been
the prize child, so Tom has always come second in
the house. Has kind of been his whole life where
he's been stuck in Sarah's world. Is honest constantly been
stuck in that shadowt The unfortunate part is I know
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Tom's mother has a strained relationship with Sarah because Sarah also.
Speaker 5 (53:06):
Just bullies her and Tom's father.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Over the divorce and just random other things, and they
kind of cater to make her feel better when she's around.
There's plans with her, everyone's expected to when she's around,
or there's plans with her, everyone's expected to drop whatever
they are doing, no matter what, and make sure to
see her. Tom's mom and dad kind of just let
her be a bully and take the hits. And unfortunately
it's not really something I can bring up with them,
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and I know it's not my place, so essentially he's
the only one who has a problem with me on
his side of the family. Also, I'd like to address
the comments that they are kind of mean. I do
understand that this is kind of a weird question to
be asking, and I did try to be transparent at
the beginning that I know that I'm not trying to
create any drama out of it, and that's why I
came here to ask. By the way, if you don't
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want to create any drama with us, you should be
listening to our podcasts all the time twenty four to
seven by looking up Okay, story Time wherever you get
your podcasts, Spotify, Apple podcast, Google podcasts, wherever you gets.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
I want no drama.
Speaker 3 (54:00):
It does.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
There's another relevant update, and I'll get straight into it,
because both of us are actively talking about what we
want from our wedding, and right now as it sits
with both of us, we are ready to marry the other.
It's not to say it'll be next month that he
pops the question, but regardless when we do it, it
isn't really what I was asking for advice on. As
we sit both we want to be married by twenty
four that's the timeline we have for each other. And
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I do understand that all this is hypothetical and anything
can happen, but we have both been through it in
the last four years as a couple, we still both
know we are each other's person.
Speaker 5 (54:32):
Please stop being rude.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
I know it's a silly thing to be questioning right now,
but I wouldn't have asked if I didn't think it
was worth asking.
Speaker 5 (54:39):
And that is where that story ends.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
I mean, I guess it pays to be thorough, you know.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
Yeah, And to be fair, it does seem like they're
like at the point where, yes, he hasn't popped the question,
but they're actively planning the.
Speaker 5 (54:50):
Wedding, so it's like getting to them. It's getting to
that point. But that is where that story ends.