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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is Sam. This is John the og story
time podcast host. Oh yeah, and we got some great
stories coming up.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
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a little house.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Oh yeah, my sister in law is in love with
my husband. I want to uninvite her.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Do it? Am I the ay hole.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
If I uninvite my thirty two female sister in law
thirty female, I'll call her Tina from my baby shower
because I think she's in love with my husband.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
That's a pretty reasonable reason to uninvite someone from your
baby shower.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah, I think so. My husband, thirty three male, and
I met each other at a ski lodge nine years ago.
I was with my young daughter and a female friend
and her child. My husband was with his two brothers
and three sisters and a few friends. There was a
singing competition and both of us were set up by
our friends to enter it, and the sparks flew during
our duet and the.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Rest is history. Dude, that high school musical.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
By the way, this comes from Apprehensive You nine thirteen
and if you want to submit your own stories, go
to the our slush Okay, story time separated it. So
back to our first meeting. This was the first time
that I caught onto my sister in law's disturbing behavior.
After the scene competition, he and I went to the
cafe to chat. His middle sister, Tina, who was adopted
at birth, came storming up to us and demanded that

(01:14):
he come back to their group. She never looked at
me and whined When he shut her down, She ran
off crying and apparently took her sister's room key cards
and locked them out so that they had to stay
with the friends in their room. Fast forward to when
we bought a house together. We had a housewarming and
invited family and close friends. Tina showed up in a
Schmechshi club outfit. She ignored me the entire time and

(01:37):
hung all over my husband, who was my boyfriend at
the time. She kept recalling tales of them when they
were little and how close they were. She would kiss
him on the sheek, hug him, and touched his arm
when laughing. He was visibly uncomfortable, so I stepped in.
At first, I just thought that she had a crush
on him, but the way that she was acting looked
like she was the girlfriend and not me. She was

(01:58):
going around reminding me and telling everyone that he used
to say that he never wanted to have kids, but
now he's playing daddy to my daughter. One of my
friends said that she thought Tina was weird for talking
about how hot his modeling photos were when he did
print work back in college, and that her favorite photo
was of them at the beach in Hawaii during family
vacation a few years back. The most bizarre thing she

(02:20):
told a few people was that he had never dated
a woman of color before.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Uh oh, and now all of a sudden, he's in love.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
What It's only bizarre to me because she's biracial, So
I don't know why this would bother her unless she
wants it to be her, yes, Opie says, unless she's
jealous of me because she wishes that she were me.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
This is ridiculous. I was supposed to be the woman
of Colin that he did. That's Chris sister, you freak. Yeah,
that's weird.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Then things go south at the end of the night
when he gets down on one knee and proposes to me. Stoh,
my gosh, exciting.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
She started crying and ran into the restroom. Dude. If
I saw that happening and I knew her at all,
if I was part of his family, I'm going in
that restroom and I'm saying, girl, yeah, that's your brother. Stuff.
Be a little freak.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
I know, like, you're adopted, so it's not blood. But
you you you grew up together, you free. Yeah, adopted
from birth. I think it said not birth, so.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
That's even more so, you freak.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Their dad went to check on her and then drove
her home. I knew exactly why she was upset, but
my husband always equated her behavior to jealousy because she
never had healthy relationships. After that tantrum, she skipped our wedding,
baby shower, our children's birthday parties, and other family events
that we attended. I was fine with extending invitations because
I knew that she wasn't going to show up. She

(03:40):
had some sort of mental breakdown and was in and
out of treatment for years.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Now.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
I have to say I wish nothing but the best
for her, and I don't know what kind of issues
she's going through, but I don't want her disrupting our peace.
I'm currently pregnant and our baby showers at the end
of this month. I'm having a few months early because
I'm at risk for going into labor early with my
other two children. My mother in law called to RSVP
and stated that Tito would be writing with them and

(04:06):
if it was okay if she brought her new boyfriend.
I was surprised because we hadn't seen her in years,
but I was apprehensive to agree. Eventually, I did agree
and hoped that she resolved whatever caused her so much
distress when she was around my family. Well, it took
all of twenty four hours for her to start her nonsense.
She texted my husband paragraphs at three am, telling him

(04:26):
how she felt about our family. First, she went on
to say how much she missed them being so close
and how I came in and destroyed their close relationship
when I barely said fifty words to her in nine years.
She asked him if he was happy with his life
because again he used to say that he never wanted
kids or to get married. She then asked if he
thought about her in all this time and if he
could meet up with her before the shower and talk

(04:47):
alone face to face. That was the last straw for me.
I asked my husband if he knew that she was
in love with him, and he just shrugged and said
he didn't doubt my theory. Apparently, when she was eleven,
she asked if they could cuddle and kiss, and he said, ah, dude,
we don't know if he told his parents huh. But
if he did and they didn't do anything, yeah, or

(05:08):
if they noticed any of this behavior and they didn't
cut it off like from the get go, messed up,
messed up like bad parents.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Uh, because this is gross behavior. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
He admits her behavior since then has always been weird
and dramatic, but he didn't pay her much attention because
there were many siblings and they all hung out all
the time. I asked him if he could uninvite her
and this new boyfriend because I think she's going to
bring drama to our baby shower. He said that he
wants to talk to his parents first to see what
kind of state that she's been in. But I know
in my gut that she's ready to ruin our day

(05:39):
with her theatrics. So am I the a hole for
wanting to uninvite her to the baby shower? An edit
for those of you wondering if anything intimate ever happened
between them the answer is no, I'm one hundred percent
certain of this.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
He has a total of three adopted siblings, two female
and one male.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
He says that he sees them as blood related siblings because.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
The three of them were adopted at birth.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
He's the second youngest, and they're all within one to
four years of each other, so all he knows is
them as siblings. He said he chooses to ignore her
because she's always been dramatic. He's always worried about her
physical safety because she's suffered from depression for as long
as he can remember, so he tries to handle things gently.
He's not opposed to on inviting her, but he does
want to know what his parents think about their mental

(06:20):
state and whether she can behave and a second edit,
so I keep seeing something about high school musical. Nice,
that's what we were saying. I'm a little too old
to have watched that show and movie, but I didn't
know about the plot. I changed some details about how
he met so this post wouldn't be immediately recognizable, but
it's very much, unfortunately, my life right now. My husband
is on his way home right now, despite having another
three hours left at work, because his phone kept blowing up.

(06:43):
He didn't sound good on the phone, but he wouldn't
tell me what was wrong. I don't want to call
back his mom and other sister to ask what's going on.
But I'll try to pose an update when hopefully we
come to a final solution, because I am stressed over
this and we do have an update.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
But let's dissect all this. Oh, I don't have her over.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah, I think you're definitely not the a hole for
like uninviting her or not inviting her in the first place,
Like even if it wasn't weird, like you know, sibling
stuff that's going on here, Like she's just dramatic and
she causes problems. So if you don't want that drama
in your life at your baby shower, then I think
that's fine. Just be like, yo, according to the statistics,

(07:24):
you have not been the best like guest to any
of these events.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
And they're in love with my husband to stop that.
Stop that. Yeah, No, I think talk to the parents,
say hey, I don't feel comfortable having her there. She's
expressed interest in her brother, yeah many times, and the
brother doesn't deny it. Yeah, he's like, I guess you're right. Yeah,
Like I also think that was an interesting response of

(07:49):
him being like, I don't know, I guess there is
probably right. Yeah, Like it feels like he's very hesitant
to kind of agree with it. But I also feel
like that's understandable because you don't want to be like, yeah,
my sibling is a tracked right.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
This will probably be my last update since my husband
and I decided that we need to be completely removed
from sister in laws drama slash trauma so we can
focus on having a healthy pregnancy and family life. I
have an appointment with a paranatologist, a high risk prenatal
doc tomorrow morning that was scheduled weeks ago to check
on the baby.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Thank you to those who were concerned about me and
the baby. So I don't even.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Know where to start, so I apologize if this update
seems all over the place. I also have to point
out for the person who went through my common history,
I switched to the numbers, genders, and event details so
I wasn't as easily identified in For Your Life. I
have a professional license, so if someone recognized me and
thought I was being an ethical due to the nature
of the post, I've avoided certain verbiage because of my dram,

(08:46):
I could be brought in for a review, which I
would much like to avoid. So I'm sorry that I
can't be one hundred percent truthful with all.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Of the details.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
I tried my best to keep the most important information
as factual as possible. My husband ran home because Tina
Blue blu up his phone texting and calling. Now, my
husband always texts her called me on his lunch break
to check on me, even before the pregnancy, so I
knew that something was wrong when he didn't.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Since he left Tina.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
On read, she started calling and sending a slew of
unwarranted and degrading texts about me and our children, so
basically Tina being Tina. He didn't run it by me,
but he sent her a long paragraph which he showed
me when he got home, basically telling her off and
told her that he would have rather never speak to
her again than listened to her and talk bad about

(09:32):
our family. He told her that she would never be
invited to any of our family functions and that she
needed to check herself back into the hospital.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
And she thought that her their sibling relationship was ever
closer than it actually was. Wow, dang good on him. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
He closed it by saying that he would let the
family know the reason she was uninvited, and that he
hoped that she's either seeing a therapist or would find
one immediately. I'm not surprised at his response because the
things that she said pushed him to that breaking point.
I think the worst thing that she said was that
my two miscarriages years ago, which would have been our
first child together, was caused because we don't actually belong together,

(10:09):
and that my body couldn't even carry any of my
children a term, which was thirty two and thirty weeks deliveries.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Oh my gosh, this person has like a mental health issue, absolutely,
I mean weird now that she was in like this
is beyond just like weird. This is like she's got problems. Yeah,
oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
I expected her to bring something like this up, but
I could tell that it really hurt him, and that's
why he didn't hold back from her. He then blocked
her and told me that he's changing our phone numbers.
He called his parents in the oldest biosister whom he's
close with, and explained to them why she's never allowed
to visit our home. He shared all of their text
exchanges and they were mortified. He asked them not to

(10:50):
share our address, and when we changed to new numbers,
they assured us that none of them share this information
with her, because she actually asked for his work schedule
and mentioned driving up a day early to surprise him.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
No, scary, scary.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
My father in law had the most to say, and
I get it's this baby girl, but he hadn't shared
much info beforehand with anyone else besides his wife.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
He said that he always knew that she had a
little crush on him.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
But after her outburst at our housewarming years ago, they
had a conversation about her behavior and she told him
that she had been keeping a diary about him since
she was a teenager. Okay, so the parents did know
about this and didn't step in to be like, hey,
we're not doing that whole thing in our house.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Failure, oh, failure. F If he had a conversation with
her and she says, yeah, I have a diary about him. Yeah,
you said, hey, that's not okay, Yeah, that's it's really uncomfy,
and you know, yeah, that's your sibling. We don't have
those feelings about our siblings, right, you shut it down? Yeah,
because if she was like raised with the idea that

(11:54):
this is okay from birth or just kind of like
never was taught differently, then it makes sense why she
would not think this is so weird, you know, because
we're taught like it's kind of like ingrained in our
lives that that's not a thing that you do. But anyway,
she explained that it was to process her emotions and
to challenge negative thoughts. And all I heard was that

(12:15):
she wrote about him for years, so there's several journals
in their home, probably enforcing her beliefs. Apparently, she only
stayed away from my husband because my father in law
kept her in check and was able to get her
hospitalized several times for being a threat to herself. I
don't know if all of her issues stem from her
unrequited love for him. Typing that just made me feel nauseous.

(12:35):
He asked that.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
They speak with her about his last text, but that
we don't want to know the outcome. He told us
that they would deal with her and apologize for thinking
that she had resolved her issues. My in laws are saints,
and I thanked them for believing us and keeping her
away for all these years. Luckily, she's currently living with
them due to her issues, so they're going to speak
with her tomorrow morning. The biosister in law called me

(12:57):
when we got off the phone with the in laws.
She told told me that she was really sorry because
she's the one who hooked the new boyfriend and Tina
up and suggested that she show him off at the
baby shower, but admitted that they had only been dating
for like two weeks. She said that she sent the
texts that Tina sent to my husband to Tina's boyfriend
because that's one of the bio sister in law's best

(13:19):
guy friends and she wanted to protect him. So I'm
pretty sure that they're probably not a thing anymore. I'm
kind of nervous how Tina will deal with two rejections
so close together. The two sisters aren't that close, and
she was audibly disgusted to find out that her sister
has been pining for their brother all these years. She
has a theory, though, She thinks that it started with
the older bio brother, Sean, because when Tina was little,

(13:42):
she would follow Sean around all the time. But he's older,
so he went off to college abroad. Tina was about ten,
and then he permanently moved to Europe. It seemed like
the crush transferred to my husband when Shawn left. Sean
hasn't been back to the States since he graduated high school,
and no one really has contact with him, so she
said that she I can't call and ask.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Him about it.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
I have to admit that I'm kind of curious and
would have been interested in hearing what Sean had to say,
but I'll resisted knowing our involvement in the whole thing
is over. But you can always know that you can
be involved in more full episodes of stories just like
this one. Just go to iHeartRadio, Spotify, Apple Podcast, one
of your favorite podcast app.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Is and search. Okay, story time, We'll be there for you.
Do it.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Oh my gosh, there is a little bit left, But
do you have any final thoughts?

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Be for we wrap this up. I think this woman
just needs a lot of psychiatric help. Yeah, like medical
professionals to help her.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Oh man, so there's a little bit more. Someone pointed
out that Tina is potentially dangerous and could hurt me
or our children, and this really scared me. My husband
is going to upgrade our alarm system and purchase more cameras.
I don't work summers and will most likely be out
on bed rest by the time I have to go
back to work, so he wanted to ensure that the
kids and I were safe when he's away from the house.
I forgot to mention that we live about five hours away,

(14:59):
so she would we have to go out of her
way to show up here if she's somehow found out.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Where we live. So that's it. Basically, this will most
likely be my only update.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
I also want to point out for those that think
my husband was intimate with her at some point to
cause her erratic behavior. If that were the case, she
would have loved to throw that in my face over
and over. Plus a guilty man would have tried to
silence her a long time ago to keep me from
finding out. You don't have to trust him, but I do.
Thanks again for all the helpful input. I'm feeling a
little more at ease and can't wait to see our

(15:29):
closest friends and family at our shower.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
And that's the end of that story. My mother in
law dislikes me so much that she published a song
about it drop the SoundCloud to distract and this comes
directly from the r slash Okay story Time separated all right,
So my mother in law fifty three female, comes across
as a flawless human. She's attractive, a professional singer, lives

(15:56):
this unconventional hippie lifestyle that initially seemed appealing. She's constantly
interacting with celebrities who take to her because she's very charming.
She's married to a has been drummer who was successful
back in the day but hasn't worked a stable job
in twenty years. Despite him living on government handout, she
still uses his past to massively prop up her ego.

(16:18):
Ego is the word I most associate with her. She
is the biggest self absorbed person I have ever met,
and has gone out of her way to cause me
immense amounts of harm. By the way, this comes from
false Reboard eleven thirty five and if you want to
spit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay
Storytime subvert it. So, my mother in law and I
used to have a good relationship before I fell pregnant.

(16:40):
Despite my reservations, I agreed to move into the flat
above hers prior to having the baby. It made sense
as we got discounted rent due to her friendship with
the landlord, and we thought we'd receive help when the
baby came along. Moving into this flat was a mistake.
When I was seven months pregnant, she began keeping a journal,
a log of all the things I supposedly did that

(17:02):
could be considered harmful. The list was not very long,
but included not letting my partner have a say in
how we decorated the flat, which is true what twenty
seven year old woman wants anime figures, Pokemon toys, and
hundreds of DVDs on display in a cramped living room,
and my tone of voice was off on several minischool
occasions I couldn't even recall. I overlooked this because I

(17:25):
was more concerned about preparing for the baby, as you
should be, but I felt incredibly uncomfortable around her. When
the baby eventually came, she was nowhere to be seen.
The visits upstairs stopped, and we rarely saw her. The
help promised was obviously not going to happen, given that
she homeschooled her then seven year old daughter. I was
not too bothered and didn't judge her for her lack

(17:46):
of support. I ignored the warning signs that my mother
in law was troublesome, and first recognized this when my
baby was six weeks old. Being a new parent is hard,
and being nerdivergent it was particularly challenging for me. I
only had bought my partner and me tickets to the
Harry Potter studio tour. Before accepting the tickets, we cleared
it with mother in law so she could take the

(18:06):
baby that morning. We were to leave at seven thirty
am and be back for two at the latest. I
was so excited to have a few hours with my
partner to feel like us again. I told my mother
in law this when I was alone the day before
and opened up about my struggles with adapting to life
as a mother. She was very reassuring and said getting
to know the baby would be her pleasure. At eight
o'clock that evening, I received a message thing that she

(18:29):
would not have the baby, that it was unreasonable of
us to expect her to have such an early start,
and that the baby that age should be with her mother.
Thank you for telling them the night before. Yeah, what,
her opinions might be valid, but she shouldn't have agreed
and changed her mind at the last minute, leaving us
no time to find an alternative sitter who didn't share

(18:49):
these views. We tried to reason with her, but it
was a definite no. I felt played. She claims she
didn't hear me say the things I did about not
coping with the baby, which I know was a lie.
We ended up taking the baby with us, and I
cried all the way around the tour. Why is it
just because she's having these struggles with the baby? Maybe, Oh,
she's just meant to say that the baby cry, But

(19:10):
I kind of doubt it. It says I cried. Yeah, I wonder, like,
because you were having struggles with parenthood or something.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, maybe it was just stress of the situation and
then having the baby with her, Yeah, extra stress or something.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
I don't know. Skip forward seven months. My partner and
I were awarded a government subsidized flat with two bedrooms.
We'd been living in a one bed before this. The
flat we were given was in a dangerous dilapidated state,
with carpet spikes sticking out of the floor and half
the ceiling was gaved in. Oh my gosh, it needed
a lot of work before My little one, who was
crawling then moved in. My partner and I did not

(19:43):
have the money to hire people and had no choice
but to do the work ourselves. We were laying carpet
and laminet, amongst other jobs, and only had two weeks
to finish the work. My family were amazing and had
the baby a lot during this time. My partner's family
did not help his uncle to build. Taught us the
skills we needed in an evening, but that was all
the help we received. My mother in law had the

(20:05):
baby twice the first week, but only for a few hours.
We weren't making much progress. Then the second week came
and she said she'd only have her from two o'clock
onwards and only for an hour or so. She does
not work and could have helped more. I challenged this
and said it was only two or three more days,
as my family was doing the rest. She then said
that it was affecting her daughter, who is the most selfish,

(20:26):
entitled girl I've ever met, and that she would always
come first, even over a granddaughter's safety. Girl, just keep
them most safe, Yeah, keep him most safe. I raised
my voice atter and said, oh, f off with that.
It's for two days. I'm not asking you to change
your alternative lifestyle. She knew I was referring to her
eleven am wake ups and late nights. She became very
personal about my parenting and I asked her to leave.

(20:49):
Admittedly I should not have sworn, but we were under
so much pressure and we had no choice but to
ask her anyhow. And in response to this, at ten
thirty that evening, whilst my baby was in bed, her
horrible husband started smashing down our glass front door, trying
to get to me. What please facin police spring ring.
Oh my gosh. We had to let him in to

(21:09):
avoid a hefty bill if the glass broke. He started screaming,
calling me names, asking who I thought I was, and
making threats. I then threatened to call the police if
he didn't leave. That evening, my partner received a message
from his mom saying that she would support him and
being a single parent, and listed all the reasons he
should leave me. He also received messages from other family

(21:31):
members saying something similar. He needs to cut them off
or limit contact in a big way, because no, no, no,
you should not be subjected to this behavior.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, oh my gosh, that's like your safety is now invall.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Yeah. I went to my mom's and a few days
later I had to drop the baby off to continue
with renovations. Her partner took one look at me again
on the shared lawn and started in front of his
wife's ninety six year old grandmother. I ignored him and went
to my flat with my partner. Mother in law followed.
She apologized, saying her partner shouldn't have done y dead,
but followed on with how I brought it on myself. Girl,

(22:08):
that's a bad apology. We move flats and things improved.
My partner and I focused on our independent lives together.
The in laws were in the picture, but we put
them on the back burner. But unfortunately, tragedy struck just
after my daughter's first birthday. Uh oh, I developed a
neurological condition overnight which causes me to have seizures throughout
the day. It affects my mobility. I need crutches of

(22:30):
time and have huge amounts of unexplained pain and a
chronic fatigue due to the seizures and medications. Oh my god, gosh,
these are just a few of the symptoms. My partner
had to give up work to look after me. Given
the situation. Mother in law agreed to have the baby
one afternoon a week to give me and my partner
a break. This lasted a few weeks before she canceled

(22:51):
most days because of other commitments she made for her daughter.
She also used to have the baby one night a
month so me and Hobby could see friends. This support
all stopped when she got a puppy. A girl can
hardly take care of her daughter. Yeah, you don't need
a puppy. Oh my gosh, take care of these children,
and she's just gonna be like, oh, you would never understand.

(23:12):
Being a dog mom is so difficult, so hard. She's
like a little human mom. That's a bit more. I
would say seven months we went without a break because
she wasn't coping with the stress of having the dog.
Why did you get the dog? You already have a kid.
Take care of your kid. This could have been so
easily to take care of your grandkid. But what's going on.
My family did what they could, but my mom developed

(23:34):
her own health conditions during this time and is also
a full time care for my severely special needs, double
incontinent sister, so naturally support was limited. Yes, I was
resentful that my daughter's needs were not being met. At
the time, I couldn't meet them because of my health,
and the person who could meet them best wouldn't because
of a dog. I occasionally told my partner of my
frustrations with his family, and we had more than a

(23:56):
few arguments about them. So he's not even like on
your side. Yeah, that's a huge problem, the fact that
he's not even on your side. Absolutely. However, I tried
not to let them steal my peace, and we got
on with our lives to the best of all our ability,
until my little one was taken to hospital. That is,
my little one is severely asthmatic. She has been in
and out of hospital for her breathing a lot since

(24:18):
she was a baby. However, when she was eighteen months old,
she caught a chest infection. I booked her an emergency
doctor's appointment because she really could not breathe. At the appointment,
the doctor took one look at her and advised we
go immediately to the ANNIE. I couldn't call my partner
as it was his first official day of teachers training
and if he did not attend that day and the next,
he wouldn't be able to fully enroll in his course.

(24:41):
My mom could not take me as she had my
poorly autistic nephew from my other sister at hers so
my sister could work. I can't try because of my seizures,
and taxis don't really operate in my area because it's
so rural and would have cost me over one hundred pounds,
which I literally did not have. So I called my
mother in law. I explained that I needed a lift

(25:01):
and the situation to what she said, now, I'm not
taking you. I haven't sleappt and hung up. It was
so rude. Oh my gosh, if she couldn't take me
fair enough, but at least help me find a solution.
But nothing, not even appropriate concern was offered. My mom
left my nephew for me at home as my brother
in law was going to leave work to go and
collect him. He received disciplinary for this, and she took

(25:23):
me to the hospital. He was worse than we expected.
Little one was going to be staying overnight at the minimum.
That night my child crashed. A team came in at
two am and put her on further oxygen. She also
had a canister in her hand so that emergency antibiotics
could be administered. She was too young to understand and
was scared. She constantly tried ripping her canister out and
was asking for mummy, Daddy. My mom and her nan

(25:45):
distress made my condition worse, and I was desperately trying
to hide seizures from the staff. I begged my mother
in law to come and support, as my mom had
already been in for twelve hours and Daddy couldn't come.
I needed him to pursue his training, so I didn't
tell him the full details her crash because I knew
he would throw his opportunity to teach to be with us.
Mother in law refuse, saying her child had a cold. Ugh,

(26:08):
the thing is pausing because lots of thoughts. Yeah, a
lot just happened. You know, you can't rely on your
mother in law. You've known kind of this whole time.
I think we need to stop reaching out to mother
in law and expecting her to do something different. Yeah,
you know, like she's more focused on her kid. Makes
sense in a way. Obviously, she's terrible for like going

(26:31):
back on her word every time after she says that
she'd help out, not providing any of that help, being
you know, hostile.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah, yeah, but like you know that, Yeah, I know,
like it sucks that as a family member she's still
doing this and like this is literally her grandchild.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
But yeah, I agree. It's like, don't expect the pencil
to be a gold bar.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
But I guess it depends too, because like for this,
like when she asked to take them to the hospital,
that was like a dire situation and like no one
else could.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Yeah, she had her mom living next door, her partner
at home, and her brother and his wife living opposite.
Someone could have stayed and looked after the daughter. I
had no one. I was so upset after seven months
of no support, a refusal to take me to A
and E, and now this. I ended up messaging her
saying that she was an actress, that she may talk
the love talk, but knows nothing about it and has

(27:23):
shown none through her actions. I called her self absorbed
and said she should stop having opinions on my relationship
and I have a closer look at her own. My
partner was furious at me for the message and nearly
left me, but we were able to work it through
what is going on with your relationship? Yeah, my daughter
was meant to start nursery three mornings a week the
week after because of my health. This was vital for

(27:46):
me to function and for my daughter to have a
quality of life. Mother in law was meant to do
one pick up a week. Yeah, why are we including
her in anything? Yeah. After the argument, she pulled out
of the lift, saying she will never give us regular
help because she's scared of thes. I would give her
if she couldn't. I'm not like that. She went on
to say she will not put herself out so I
could have a break, and that children should not be

(28:06):
a nursery. I refuse to have anything to do with
her after this, and was very reluctant to let my
little one see her either. I became banned from all
family events and taken off every family group chat. I
eventually caved and let my daughter see your grandmother because
my partner threatened to leave me. Dude, what if your
partner's threatened to leave you over his just terrible mother. Yeah,

(28:29):
maybe we ought to rethink this relationship. Yeah, maybe we
need to let him. Also, why does he keep threatening
to leave you? Yeah, like you're just not doing anything wrong.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
They're putting all of the blame on you seeing that
you're going to do them when it seems like it's
the other way around. Yep.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
My partner grew up with her as a single mother
and was very protective over her and did not believe
any maliciousness had taken place. He now sees the truth.
Oh switch up. Oh okay, and we've never been stronger. Okay. However,
he still has a relationship with his mom. After a
few months, my mother in law made it on the
news for a song she wrote about a particular situation.
I can't give any more information to protect everyone's Oh

(29:07):
my god, who is this famous woman? She's some British lady.
What I wanted to see the success of the video,
so went on YouTube, where I found a song posted
three days prior about me. In the song, she went
on about how her son has pushed her away, how
he's only staying with me to keep his baby safe,
how I've ruined his dreams, how I take him for granted.

(29:28):
He was my care at the beginning, and to do
more abound the house and now this is not what
you want f him. I was so upset, and so
was my partner. Everyone we mutually knew had seen the song.
We asked her to take it down, but she wouldn't.
It took my partner three weeks of arguments and a
visit round to get the song down. But you can
always visit our podcast if you go to Spotify, Apple Podcast,

(29:51):
or iHeartRadio to listen to full episodes of stories just
like this. Just search up. Okay, storytime and there is
a little bit left to this story. Final thoughts.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
I just really want to know who this woman is,
and I want to listen to this song.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
And I want to know right now. Someone find it out.
So I bet, I bet you could find it out,
like British singer fifties wrote a song about her son
or whatever. Yeah, I'm sure there's a way to figure
out marry to an old drummer. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Please, that's oh boy. But yeah, this woman is wild.
I wish so badly for her to be exposed. Yes,
good riddance. I'm glad that the partner is finally understanding
you know how toxic the mom is. Yeah, he still
has a relationship, but that's kind of understandable. It's hard
to just like go to a contact all the sudden,
but still good that he knows to defend you now.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
But there is a little bit left so let's hit it.
I later found out there was an alternative reason for
my partner's visit, a six page letter of all the
things we have put her and her partner through, and
how much her partner is a disappointment to her, and
how his passed away granddad would be ashamed of him.
There is no consideration of our circumstances. Only she and
her imaginary problems existed. I was so angry, but it

(31:07):
was for my partner to work it through with his mom.
I was just relieved of that song taken off. Five
months of past since the letter, and nothing has changed.
My partner now keeps his family at arm's length, but
goes to family events I'm not welcome att. I know
people on here will ask me why I stay with
my partner who allows me to get treated like this,
and at times I have wondered this myself. The conclusion

(31:28):
I've come to is that on the day to day,
me and my partner are very, very happy. He's a
fantastic father, my best friend, and there is so much
love and laughter in the house. In law's aside, I
feel very fortunate in life, despite the illness. I don't
know how to handle the in laws moving forward and
would love some advice on how to best handle the situation.
And that is the end of that story.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
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Speaker 4 (31:54):
I accidentally made two couples separate when I revealed sensitive information.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Oh oopsie, uh okay.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
I don't think I'm the ale in this situation, but
it's literally about half an half with the people I
know in real life that know the situation. I want
to see other perspectives on this from people who have
no attachment to it. By the way, this comes from
Snow Confections four one eight nine and if you want
to spit your own stories, go to the r slash
Okay storytime separate it. So this past weekend, I went

(32:24):
to a UFC fight watch party with this girl I've
been talking to for a couple of weeks. Let's call
her Pee's call her Penny.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Penny.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
We went to high school together ten years ago, but
didn't really talk that much during that time, but Penny
and I had.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Mutual friends like Shaquille O'Neal. Sorry, I was Penny hardaway
had I had to put it in there, Thank you, Riley.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
We got reacquainted a couple of weeks ago and have
hung out a few times since. Well, like I had
stated before, back in high school, we had a lot
of mutual friends, and a lot of those friends Penny
still is pretty close to till this day, and the
vast majority of them I haven't spoken to in about
a decade, so pretty much since high school. After I graduated,

(33:05):
I left the state to play college football, and I
didn't really come back home that often when I was
in college, so I only kept in touch with my
very close group of friends from back home. So there's
a lot of people who I was pretty good friends
with in high school, still have on social media, still
wish the best for them, but have not seen and
or spoken to in about a decade. I say that

(33:25):
to say. Penny had asked me if I could come
with her to the watch party the day before the party.
I like to watch fights with my friends and or family,
so I was going to say no, especially since she
said the host house belonged to one of her friends
who I didn't know. But then she told me that
that friend was the wife of the guy I was
friends with in high school and hadn't seen in a

(33:46):
long time. Okay, she said, she let them know that
we had been seeing each other, and they told her
that she'd better bring me eooooooooo. Then she names other
people who would be going, lot of names of people
I had and seen since high school and used to
be pretty cool with, so that convinced me to go.
I'm usually pretty introverted in houses. I don't know, but

(34:09):
when we showed up to the house, I saw a
lot of people I knew, so since I was familiar
with a lot of them, that introverted feeling immediately went away,
and I felt really comfortable and really enjoyed watching the
fight with them, drinking and catching up that I was
going really well. I was having fun. Penny is having fun.
All vibes are good until the incident.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Oh no, not the incident.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
I was inside the house having a conversation.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
That's where the call is coming from.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Then I noticed Penny was outside amongst a group of
people out there, sitting and talking, so I decided to
go join. I walk out there and grab a chair. Okay,
they are in the middle of a conversation, but I'm
not even paying attention to what they're saying. I'm just
paying attention to grab in the chair and placing it
next to Penny so I can sit. There's about fifteen
people in the circle. I only knew about it half

(35:00):
of the people in the group. As I'm about to
sit down, the first words that I actually hear in
this conversation with someone saying something like, don't worry, most
male spicy dancers are homo. Uh uh uh?

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Did you whatever you do, don't leave it there.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
I did not know any of the context of the conversation.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Okay, all right, well you know enough to know about
some frisky individuals.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
But what I ji on the I instantly responded with
something like, no, they're not. They'd be having a spicy
sleep with so many of the girls. He walks into
the conversation, here's most of the spicy dancers are gay,
and goes, no, they're not. After saying that, I instantly
went into why I know this. I have an older
brother who is five years older. He has a best

(35:53):
friend who was a really muscular dude who did male
stripping for a little after they graduated high school. Let's
call him M and was a pretty popular male spicy dancer.
From what I heard, I know he was once featured
in a pretty popular magazine, Playgirl.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
It was like it was pretty popular.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
R I yess, he was well known in my city
even before the stripping. Em went to my high school too,
but before I went there, and I didn't think anyone
there would know who he is besides a guy that
was there who I was close to in high school,
let's call him X. X came over to my house
a lot back in high school and he met Marty
a couple of times. Well, Marty did a lot of

(36:32):
bachelorette parties and he would always tell me about it,
and sometimes X when he was there. Marty often said
that if he ever got married, his girl would never
be allowed male spicy dancers at her bachelorette party. Marty
said that at least eighty five percent of the parties
he does, the bride to beat cheats, often with multiple men.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Well, that sounds like the parties you're throwing are the
wrong hind.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Marty said it was really that the bride to be
didn't cheat to at least some degree, and he had
proof of these claims with pictures videos on his phone
and would not hesitate to show us. He said because
of that he would never allow it because he knows
how it goes. I explained all of this to the
group and even had X come outside to confirm that
that's what Marty told us and showed us proof. After

(37:20):
I finished talking, it was quiet for a moment, and
about three people walked off, none of which I knew personally,
and it suddenly felt awkward. I didn't understand. Then Penny
started telling me that prior to me sitting down, they
were trying to make one of the guys in the
circle feel better. Let's call the guy Hank Ooh.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
No, not Hank. He totally did not read the room.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
No.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
No, his wife just had a stripper at or bachelorette party.
And he's like, yeah, she didn't do anything, right, Guys,
they're like, no, no, of course not. Yeah, they definitely
did something for sure.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
I don't know what you guys are talking talking about,
but they did something, which I think is the right
thing to say in this situation.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah, yeah, the true needs to know if that is
the truth.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yeah, you shouldn't be like, no, buddy, he was just gay.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
He'd be like a new Wifetime Sorry, yep, Wifetime movie.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Hank was going to get married the next month, him
and if fiance were going to do their bachelor and
bachelorette parties a week apart. Hank's fiance was currently on
her bachelorette weekend in another city, and Hank was aware
that they were going to have male, spicy dancers come
to their airbnb. At some point, Hank had told him
that initially he didn't care and wanted her to enjoy it,
but had started becoming insecure about it. Well, okay, I don't.

(38:41):
I don't think that it's fair to say, like every
time you have spicy dancers over those cheating going on.
I do think that if you haven't told your partner
that you were going to have spicy dancers, that's not cool.
That's violating trust in your relationship. It does seem like
Hank knew about it, so oh so the group was

(39:01):
in the middle of trying to comfort him. Prior to
me sitting down, I was not aware of any of
this until after. I felt a little bad, but I
also felt like I didn't tell a lie. Everything I
said was from a direct source that lived it. But
I do get I shouldn't have said it right there,
and I most likely wouldn't have if I knew the
context of the conversation prior to sitting down. Hank was

(39:24):
one of the three people who left the group after
I spoke about what Marty had told me an X.
The other two people that walked off, I didn't know them.
It was a couple and they are older than me. Well,
turns out they also attended my high school and are
about six years older. And I've been together since high
school and got married shortly after both of them knew
who Marty was. Turns out the girl had a bachelorette

(39:47):
party with male spicy dancers coming to a house for
and Marty was one of them. Marty certainly does she
gets around man and her Man knew that he was
one of the spicy dancers and at the time found
it funny because they didn't think one of the spicy
dancers would be someone they went to school with. Apparently,
at the time they both laughed about it, and the

(40:09):
girl claimed she didn't get a dance from him because
when he tried, she couldn't stop laughing. Well after hearing
what I said, apparently the dude got angry, especially since
I said Marty often provided proof to those claims and
had showed me an ex so that couple walked off
and started arguing. Inside I could see that they were
arguing through the glass door, but we didn't know it

(40:30):
was because of what I said initially, But after I
found out, I thought it would be better for me
to leave, and it was already getting late, so me
and Penny left. She was mad at me and told
me I shouldn't have settle that. After that night, I
asked about twelve of the people that were there individually
if they thought I was the a hole in this situation.
I asked, both men and women. It's literally split in half.
Some say yes, others say no. And some of the

(40:53):
people who I didn't know there are pretty angry at me,
including all three that walked off.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
It'bsurd.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
Opie literally didn't know what the conversation was.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Did Ope cheat on anybody?

Speaker 4 (41:03):
No?

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Did OPI maybe put themselves in a position to cheat
on anybody?

Speaker 4 (41:07):
No? No, this is what op put his foot in
his mouth.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
That's literally it.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
If Op was speaking from the intent of like, ooh, yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
I can't wait to stir up some juicy drama.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Literally, yeah, all right, you're kind of friend. That's kind
of a jerk thing to do what happens and you
just telling like objectively, like what could be the truth
leads to two people breaking up.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
That's not like you're you're a bad guy.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
No, And to make matters worse. I spoke to Marty
about what happened. I hadn't talked to him in a
long time. He lives outside of the state, but I
have him on social media. I told him a story,
knowing he would find it funny. After I told Marty,
he said he knew who the woman was. He said
he only did one bachelorette party for someone he went
to high school with. He proceeds to say her name

(41:55):
correctly and describe her correctly, and then gives me details
about that party. She clearly lied to her husband and
definitely contributed to the eighty five percent stat. He even
said he might still have the video of that night
on an old phone. But I'm not gonna say anything
about it anymore. I do not want to get involved.
I don't know either of them and have no obligation

(42:17):
to interfere in that relationship at all, especially more than
I have. So am I the ale in this situation.
I would if y'all have handled this and edit. The
reason I said two relationships is because apparently h was
really impacted with what I said and also apparently saw
and heard some suspicious things about the trip. What he
saw or heard I do not know. Penny was the

(42:39):
one telling me this and she didn't know either, And
due to this, the wedding might be off. Some of
them think I might be paranoid and to blame for this.
There is an update.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Tell the truth is not You're not the ahle r.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
You're not the ale.

Speaker 5 (42:56):
Some people made actions happen, and you spoke truthfully from
your experience.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
Yeah, and you didn't even do it intentionally. You didn't
know what they were talking about.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
It just makes no sense for you to be blamed.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Yeah, there is an update. Not gonna lie. I was
not planning on doing an update to this story where
was not really looking to tell a story, just wanted
other perspectives. Well, I actually have an update on both
of these couples. Both are bad, but I'll start with
the lighter one. First. Hank did end up calling off
the wedding, so apparently the stuff I said, but the
male spicy dancers did really mess with his head. And

(43:29):
made him start digging for stuff. I guess he went
through his girl's phone without our knowing when she got
back from her weekend, which apparently prior to this is
something he has never done. His girl had a second
Snapchat account. Yikes. The fact that she had a first
Snapchat account suspicious. Yike's on bikes that he didn't know about.
I guess she didn't log out of it before Hank
went through it branly. The only chat on it was

(43:50):
a group chat with her friends. But on that snap
she had a bunch of older spicy sleep tape saved,
and she had a bunch of videos saved in the
group chat from their weekend, and the video showed her
not only hooking up with the male Spicy dancer, but
also had her hooking up with at least two other
men during bachelorette party weekend.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Group chat full of absolute harlests.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
Yikes. Apparently he also was able to read chats where
she said something along the lines of her feeling bad
about how crazy she went that weekend, but she's glad
she got to get her last urges out and it's
now ready to settle into married life. You were in a.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Relationship troll up, I dub thee trn up.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
You were in a relationship, he called off, the wedding
and all that. So in this case, I'm glad dude
heard what I said because I saved him. Yeah, good
on you, Opie. You can literally go back to Penny
and be like, oh, so I was freaking right? Did
you want him to marry a person who cheated on
him multiple times?

Speaker 1 (44:47):
How is this your fault that she she cheated on that?

Speaker 2 (44:50):
You just made him think hard enough to figure out
that his wife was gonna was cheating on him, So
he left.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
His girl, went to another city, and really he got
her crap off. So good thing he got that before
making it official. Now to the married couple. I didn't
name them last time, but I will here just to
tell the story better. I know some of y'all didn't
like the letters for names, so I'll name them John
and Amy, not the real name, so that I from

(45:16):
the original post where I told the story. I know
some said that I should have read the room and
all that. Not only was it hard because it was
dark out and I had been drinking, but I had
also had people there asking questions and giving input in
the middle of telling it, so I didn't get any
indication about me doing too much at the time. So
John was one of the people who asked me a
couple of questions. So John and Amy were lapped up

(45:38):
when they were sitting out there, Amy sitting on John.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Of course.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
Apparently, when I started going into describing Marty in the
middle of the story and I said his real life name,
John felt Amy start to tense up and feel uncomfortable.
Marty's real name is pretty unique in America, at least
I've never seen anyone else with that name, so when
I said it, it was very clear who I was
talking about. And like I said, they went to high

(46:02):
school with him and both knew who he was, which
I knew nothing of that at that point, and John
knew Amy had Marty as a male spicy dancer at
her party. Well, I guess the more detailed then graphic
I got about what Marty told me in terms of
the spicy related acts, how rare it was that it
didn't happen, and that he often recorded everything. The more

(46:26):
uncomfortable John felt Amy getting that at John get really suspicious,
and that's where he asked me a couple of questions
in the middle of my story. I forgot what he asked,
but it was nothing crazy. I think one of them
was did Marty send me the videos or just show
me on his phone? Which he only showed me on
his phone. I'm guessing. Amy continued to get more uncomfortable,
and he felt it and got really suspicious, and that's where.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
He walked off.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
Scy theory.

Speaker 5 (46:49):
Oh oh, Opium, Marty go back, right, they go back
like they've been working together or like, don't like, you know,
they went to school together. They went to school together,
but did they did they dance together or anything like that.
I think someone knew about the dancer and that Opie
was the dancer's friend, thus hired that person because they

(47:10):
knew that they could get information, and this some sort
of setup.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
It's all some long con honestly.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
Like, how is that coincidental? Unless they're all kind of
like local.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
They all, yeah, I think they are.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
It could be a small town where everyone cheat.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Apparently, well he said eighty five people cheat.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
They all went to high school, Okay.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
And these are people that Opie hasn't even seen in
like years.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
Yeah. So now fast forward to this past week. This
is how I heard it played out. I don't know
John or Amy. I know John's younger brother, but I
haven't spoken to him since the day. I asked him
if I was an ale for telling the story to them,
which he said I wasn't. Penny talks to John's brother,
but also is close with that group of friends, that

(47:56):
is her close friends. I got this infro from Penny,
which is in that was regurgitated with in the group.
So I'm not sure on the accuracy of how it
all played out, but I would guess it's pretty high.
But the actual incident itself did happen one hundred percent,
I know because it's documented now. John and Amy argued
inside the house, and I'm guessing all the way home,

(48:19):
Amy assured John that nothing happened with Marty or any
of the other male spicy dancers there. She also stayed
with the story that she only got a partial lap
dance from Marty.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
You just kind of hovered, Yeah, he was just he
was just in the general vicinity.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
But had to stop because she couldn't stop laughing. Apparently
John didn't fully buy it and came up with a
plan to make her admit it. Earlier this week, John
confronted Amy about it again, but this time stated that
he knew the facts already so for her to come
clean and be honest with them. John told Amy that
he had been in contact with me and I also

(48:54):
put him in contact with Marty, and from that he
knew the entire story and that Mark Marty still had
the evidence. I can confirm that neither me nor Marty
have spoken to him. I haven't spoken to him since
that night. Marty says he's never spoken to dude and
he's life. So I guess Amy felt like she was
caught and admitted everything. She told John that she eft

(49:15):
Marty that night.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Marty, Dude stop, So Marty Marty, Marty really knows firsthand.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
She told John that she eft Marty that night. This
made John snap. I don't know why John said he
had spoken to me. Maybe he knew that would work
and get her to admit it. As far as I know,
no one has seen this red a post from that night.
By the way, you can see full episodes of stories
just like this on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Yes, you can see them with your tires, you can
see them with the eyes of the auditory.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
But you can see the episodes. You can, and then
you can click on them and then you can listen
to them.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Oh, well, I guess there are certain ones where you
can see it.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
You can see all of them.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
No, some of it's just audio, but.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
You can see the episode. That's how you click on it.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Oh that is true, right, Okay, you can see it.
That is you know what color me wrong about that
color wrong?

Speaker 4 (50:11):
But there is a little bit more to this story.
Do you have any final.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Go back to the quiet solitude of not interacting with
these people?

Speaker 4 (50:21):
Yep, I'd be like, kay, Penny, can we not be
around those rounds?

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Also, you should definitely like lean into being Hank's new
best friend.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
Yeah, you really did him as solid.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah, you exposed his fiance's infidelity. I'm pretty sure he
would be like, yeah, man, I owe you one.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
You better. You better. But there's a little bit left
do this story. Penny knows about it now, but I
showed her after the fact when she was telling me
about all this that I'm posting. She thinks that John
might have seen the post and knew she did it,
so came up with a way to make her admit it.
But Penny says that she's never used Reddit and has
never heard any of the people and that friend group

(51:00):
talk about using Reddit. But she also doesn't really know
John and Amy. So I guess it's possible that John
saw my original post. I'm not sure, but Penny said
she's not going to tell anyone about the post. So yeah,
there's the updates. I didn't feel like an a hole before,
but now I really do.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Why Why neurodivergence going on there?

Speaker 4 (51:20):
I don't know about that, but I just don't know
why you're feeling bad. I didn't want to lead to
anyone getting beat, getting hospitalized, and getting arrested. You literally
told a story without any context.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
That's what I'm saying, dude.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
I really do feel like crap about the whole situation now.
I doubt I'll update this again. I don't see what
else would even have to be known. Now I have
to deal with this crap in my conscious and psyche edit.
I keep seeing people say that they've been married for
six years. I was saying that they were both six
years older than me. I'm almost thirty, they are in
their mid to late thirties. I believe they've been married

(51:53):
for about fourteen to fifteen years and folks, that's the
end of that story. Stop feeling bad, Opie. You told
them about some statistics and then they've figured it out
from there.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Yeah, the real statistic was Marty.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Hey, y'all, it's John og Host here. We're gonna get
back to the stories, but here's a quick three minute
break from as for more sponsors.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
My husband forgave me after I cheated on him. Now
he wants the details.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Do you really want them?

Speaker 2 (52:19):
I want to preface my story by telling you all
that I have called myself all the dirty names that
you're all probably thinking of me. I rightfully deserve it.
I did something unthinkable and horrendous. Despite the circumstances regarding
the situation, I still have no excuses for my actions.
I betrayed the man I love, and I will never
forgive myself for doing so. By the way, this comes
from user Vanessa Throwaway, and if you want to submit

(52:42):
your own stories, go to the r slash Okay storytime
sub bred it So. My husband and I have been
married for three years, together for five. He is the
perfect man, and I knew that back when we started
to go out. He's smart, very good looking, loving and sweet.
He seems almost too perfect at times, and that, unfortunately
he has bothered me in many ways. Remember fellas, it's

(53:03):
icky to be too perfect. Yeah, I sometimes think that
I may not be good enough for him, despite my
healthy level of confidence and self esteem. And you can
use my infidelity to confirm that. I guess women tend
to hit on him a lot and flirt knowing that
he is married, but he has never paid them the
slightest attention, and I know people who have vouched for that.
I love him and trust him with all my heart,

(53:25):
but sometimes moments like that will make me feel uneasy,
knowing there's really no such thing as a perfect man
or woman.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Okay, I'm not really sure what we're trying to say there.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
I don't know yet. I don't have any thoughts yet.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Game About two months ago, my husband began to work
feverishly in and out of work. He and his corporate
team were working really hard to close a deal with
another huge corporation. One day, I had asked him if
he'd like to go visit his brother and his wife
that night, but he said that he couldn't and that
he had to meet with some of the other guys
over to finalize their proposal. About an hour later, I

(54:03):
see his phone ringing in the kitchen and it's a
call from someone named Janice. I let it go, and
my heart sank then and there. I didn't know a
Janis and he never spoke of one, so I assumed
the very.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Worst girl girl he's happened to.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
The healthy security of you.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
Were say, don't go. If we have that jump to
conclusions when we see a woman's name on his.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Phone, why would another woman be calling a couple of
hours before he was supposed to go into a meeting
with other co workers. Our kitchen is huge, so I
went over and stood on one side and waited for
him to come back to see his phone. He did
come back, saw the miss call, and immediately started dialing
a number and walked into the dining room to talk.
All I heard was Okay, that sounds great. Yeah, it's
at eight pm. Okay, okay, see you. Then I immediately

(54:49):
confronted him and started asking him question. He got defensive
and told me to relax, said I was overreacting. I
just kept coming back at him and him at me
for about fifteen minutes, when he just gave up and
left the house.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
I was so angry and heartbroken.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
I had planned on visiting a friend of mine from
college for the weekend, but wouldn't leave until the next morning.
I got so angry after our flight that I called
my friend and told her i'd be driving up that night.
My husband had come back home late at night and
finally texted me something along the lines of where the
f are U, Vanessa, We need to talk. I was
already in the other city by then and had completely
tuned him out that night. I texted him the next morning,

(55:27):
telling him I was at my friends for the weekend
and that's it.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
There was no reply.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
I had the deepest belief that he was with this
Janis person the night before, and I was so angry
and bitter because of it. We went to a restaurant
that Saturday afternoon. I didn't tell my friend of the situation,
but she could tell that I was looking to call
my nerves.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Wait, this is before.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
Okay, yeah, so she's definitely nah. See, because I was
gonna say if this was after the cheating, and she
you know, but this is before the cheating, so she's
very clear and the wrong and she was mm yikes. Yikes,
Like if he literally didn't tell her anything about Janet's
not cool, does not mean she can just go cheat.
But I think she knows that now.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
My friend had invited a male friend of ours, who
also went to college with us, to join us at
the restaurant. After we were done eating, my friend said
she was going to go home and help her husband
prepare for the barbecue we were going to have the
next day.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Our friend and I stayed a while longer for drinks.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
I thought a drink or two would help me forget
about what my husband had done or was doing.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
He knew I was married, but began to flirt with
me regardless.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
He asked if I wanted to go to his place
before heading back to his friends, so he could show
me his brand new car, which I loved.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
I thought nothing of it and agreed, Yeah, I did.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
You do not get come on? You thought nothing of
a man inviting you back over at his home to
look at his car.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
You knew what she was doing.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Yeah, We went to his house. He gave me a
tour of the house and showed me the car. We
sat and talked some more and began to rub my
knee and leg at one point, even with how my
husband and I left off, I still reminded my friend
that I was married and I couldn't do that.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
I'm sorry the fact that you didn't just like get
up and leave. I mean you shouldn't gone there in
the first place. But for you to be like, we
can't do this, I'm married and not leave, Yeah, you
know what you're doing. You're crazy at this.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
He knew I was married, and he flirted with me,
but I had taken all my forgetting juice and I
didn't even know who.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
Yeah, no, here is it. Oh He's like yeah, and
I rechecked. I said no literally as well. She's like no, yeah, stop.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
After going back to his house, yeah, you go, No,
I'm married.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
No, I'm married.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Crazy stop crazy, He said he knew, but he started
sweet talking to me some more, and he finally said
the word that I wish I had not let get
to me. It's okay to do something like this. I mean,
your husband's probably done it, or it's doing it. Was
doing it now too. And there's the final piece of
the puzzle, which OPI has not said. But I'm gonna

(58:14):
go out on a limb and say you've put it
out there that your husband's with Janis yeah, and that
it's something that's bothering you to this friend of yours.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Yeah hmm. Those words stung and made me feel numb
and mentally absent. I let him continue seducing me until
we eventually had spicy sleep twice for the rest of
that day. You did it twice.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
You have no legs to.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Stand on here.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
I'm really frustrated because OPI at the beginning of the
story says, yeah, I know I did this horrible thing.
My husband like forgave me, you'd never have to do that,
blah blah blah, and then in describing it is like
I didn't know what I was doing. She feels like,
you don't know seduced me, like you know what you did?
Just own up to that. Yeah, like ops saying I

(59:01):
have no excuses, and then is providing.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Excuses like honestly say that you cheated because you were insecure.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
That's why, straight up.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
If that's it, If I'm the partner, if I'm Ope,
or if I'm Ope's partner in the situation, I had
forgiven her, and then I see this post, I no
longer forgive you.

Speaker 4 (59:20):
No, I take it back because I surd I take
it back. Yeah, it's just she's literally taking all of
the blame off of herself.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
I wonder what she's looking for here. Let's let's find out.
Let's keep going.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
I almost immediately, almost immediately felt sick to my stomach
and horrible.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
After we were.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
Done, I'm sorry. After this time, I.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Told him I should leave and that my friend was
probably expecting me. He told me not to worry, because
he texted her saying I was spending the night and
that he dropped me off tomorrow the next day. I
didn't feel like going to my friend's barbecue at all.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
Due did you say? Did you say?

Speaker 2 (59:55):
I eventually went, but told her I had to leave
early because of some things I had to take for work.
Oh yeah, she bought that one. I started to tear
up on my drive back down home. I felt horrible,
even though I had a strong suspicion my husband had
done the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
I got home and noticed there was a note on
the kitchen counter.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
It said he had gone out with his coworkers to
celebrate the deal that went through, and that he'd be
back later that night. I wanted to confess as soon
as he came home, but when I saw how happy
he was about what he had accomplished, I didn't have
the courage to ruin his moment for him like that,
I waited until the next day to confess. He came
home from the gym and I told him I had
to tell him something, and I immediately began to cry.

(01:00:34):
I told him I was so hurt with what he
had done and how nonchalant he was acting about it,
but that I had made a terrible mistake and have
no excuses for my action. I'm gonna change that to uh.
I was so hurt with what I thought he had
done crazy. I told him what happened and that I
loved him and it was only.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
A way for me to vent. But at the same time,
I wasn't even myself.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
You were yourself. Stop. How can you even sit? I
apologize and like still so deeply not understand the situation.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
In the same sentence, he was so crushed and speechless.
I dropped down to my knees and cried in his
lap and told him I loved him more than anything
and that I was so sorry, and I begged him
to forgive me. He and I slept in different rooms
that night, and the next morning he had himself checked
into a hotel. I was so devastated about what had
become of our relationship and how I was to blame.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
Wait, I'm sorry, way when.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
You say it like that is really rubbing me the
wrong way.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
I'm confused. Why we never He didn't say, like, what
are you talking about? I never cheated with Janis right? Yeah,
she accused him of cheat.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
I'm sure he probably did. Oh, he's not putting that
in the story. Yeah, Oh, he is not putting any
of this in the story.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
And I'm like so confused because she's making it seem
like he did cheat, but we have no evidence of that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
It doesn't sound like he cheated.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
It doesn't sound like it, but she's making it sound
like it he did, right, which I'm like, what what
are you doing? Girl?

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
I cried for three days straight until I got a
call from him.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
He told me he had time to think and realized
that even though I was at fault and that I
had betrayed him, he made a mistake in allowing me
to believe he was cheating. I disagreed and claimed all
the blame again, told him I was a horrible wife
and that I wanted to show him what kind of
a wife I can be, a wife he deserves to have.
He eventually told me he'd want to try again, but
wasn't forgiving me right away. I told him I'd do

(01:02:23):
whatever he wanted, triple backflip right now. Shortly after taking
me back, I find out the truth about Janis and
that she was truly only a coworker who was also meeting.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Him and the other guys at the restaurant that night.
Kind of love. That did Op think that a woman
couldn't be his coworker.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
It's just like he was his coworker.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
They're doing business.

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
All of the information that I didn't gather came out
after I cheated on him.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Yes, I broke down when I found out and hated
myself even more. He told me to shut up, stop
playing the villain, because the more I did, the more
I reminded him of how I betrayed him and what
I did.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Yikes, y'all should not stay together.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
That's a leaving situation.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
So I'm sorry, he said, shut up and stop playing
the villain like you guys don't leave.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Yeah, this is not worth it would be. It would
have been so over.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
It's so over.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Wow, I agreed, And for two months now I have
done everything and anything to prove that I'm worthy of
his love again and most importantly, try to rebuild the
trust he once had for me. And for two months
our relationship has been getting better and better, thankfully. And
by the way, it just gets better and better. When
you listen to full episodes with stories just like this
on Spotify or iHeartRadio or Apple podcasts or YouTube or

(01:03:37):
wherever you listen to podcasts, just search okay, storytime with
your thumbs or your fingers or I don't know, you
can use voice search, and you can listen to over
two thousand episodes. Wow, that's a whole lot of episodes.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
So but we got a little bit left.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
We do this, we do. Let's go ahead and round
it up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
However, just two days ago, Oh, my husband's friend, who
knew about my.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Cheating, called me and told me he wanted to talk.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
I knew he had not been in good terms with
me since he found out what I did to my husband,
so I was perplexed as to why he wanted to talk.
We meet and he tells me that he was only
doing this for my husband's well being and not mine.
He told me that he had spoken with my husband,
and my husband had told him that it has been
unaliving him to be in the dark about what I

(01:04:26):
may or may not have done with my college friend
that day and feels like he'll never be able to
get past it if he doesn't find out. He told
his friend that he was planning on asking me about
the details of that day everything he can think of asking.
I got that similar sick in the stomach feeling again.
His friend told me not to go through with it.
He told me to tell him that I either forgot

(01:04:48):
or give him some non graphic general answers, because if
I told him the details, he would never get over
it and he would be deeply crushed.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
I am now in a very tight situation.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
For two months, I've been telling my husband of my
where about and everything else that a wife wouldn't normally
tell her husband. I have been truthful to a tea,
but now it seems like I am danged if I do,
and danged if I don't. If I tell him the
truth and answer his questions, it will hurt him deeply.
If I don't tell him the truth and don't answer
his questions. Genuinely, I would be lying and once again

(01:05:18):
being manipulative. I don't know what to do being manipulative?
Is that what you call cheating on your husband with
another guy who's being manipulative?

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
I think in lying about the details, that's what she's saying.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
But she said once again being manipulative. So where was
the first manipulation? It's true, were you cheated on? Are
you trying to say, cheating on your husband with another
guy twice in one night?

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Whose manipulation?

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
The problem is we're not taking any real responsibility for
this in our own heads.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
Yeah, that's where it needs. I just think that you're you. Yes, continue,
I don't know what to do. Has anyone else been
in a similar situation? What general things should I avoid saying?
If I decide to tell the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Do I have the to deny him of his questions
if I feel like it would be hurting him?

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
I think the thing is that, oh, he is right,
this will only hurt her partner. He will never forget
that you had spicy sleep twice with this guy because
you thought that he was maybe cheating with this random person,
right that his coworker. And he's never gonna you know,
and you're never gonna be able to meet these crazy

(01:06:24):
expectations that he has for you. So it's just done.
It needs to be.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Leave really can't lie to him and be like, you know,
I don't remember
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