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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
My sister is furious that I refuse to be her surrogate,
so I moved out.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Bye bye.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
I thirty seven female and fiance thirty seven male, are
trying for another baby. I normally share everything with my
family about my life, as I don't like holding onto
secrets from my family. The other month, my sister spoke
to me and mentioned how it was so nice that
no one in her family was trying or pregnant, as
every time someone said they were either one of those,
she felt deflated because she doesn't have children. And then

(00:40):
she proceeded to tell me why she couldn't have children,
which she has told me repeatedly since finding out she
can't have children. Then she asked the question that I
knew she was going to ask me. By the way,
this comes from Agreeable Self twenty thirty two on the
Okay Storytime Separate It. She asked if maybe I could
possibly help her and be a surrogate for her, as
I have come I leave my family. She said, my

(01:01):
children are from a previous relationship, and my fiance had
always dreamed of having a child, even though he counts
my two children as his. I was so shocked by
what she'd asked that I asked if she had asked
others before asking me, and she said they're younger and
might still have children in a year or two, so
she didn't ask them. I just looked shocked, and she said, well,
it's not like you're using it, is it. I looked

(01:22):
at her, dumbfounded that she was asking me this. It
gets worse. She made an appointment with her doctor and
it was the following day. It was like she was
ordering me to go. I went home and told my
fiance and he said, we can hold off on our
baby if you want to help your sister haveb a baby.
That is like w husband, W husband. It does not
seem like that's what op he wants, But like dou

(01:42):
w husband for being like, you know what, whatever you want.
If this is what you want, I'll support you.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
That's a great husband. Esquestionally again, since he is not
the father of your two children.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, and we already know that he wants to have
more kids.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, he's like, you know what, I'm on your side.
I don't like the sister sister like, I made a
doctor's appointment tomorrow without your concern.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, so you're having my baby, you gotta have to go.
It's not the fact I don't want to help her,
but there's other ways of doing surrogacy. It doesn't have
to be a family member. I told him I wasn't
happy about doing it, and that neither would my other
sisters and two sister in laws, So why was it
different for her to expect i'd do it. My mom
texted me asking if I was okay because she got
a weird text for my sister sister who wants me

(02:21):
to be surrogate for her stating that I had a
cold heart because I didn't react the way she thought
I would about being her surrogate. I explained to my
mom that it just didn't sit with me, the attitude
demanding that I become her surrogate, and that she had
an appointment booked for the following day. What my mom
didn't tell me, but my dad did because he was
livid by what the plan was. The appointment was to
talk about the nonation of my eggs. To my sister,

(02:44):
then put back inside me, so in other words, I
would be carrying my own child, but the father would
be her new boyfriend. I got off the phone and
looked at my fiance and I burst into tears. My
parents knew he had heard everything because I had put
them on speaker phone so he could listen Lily. Two
hours passed and I had fallen asleep to be woken
up by my fiance saying that my phone hasn't stopped ringing.

(03:06):
You had been declining if it were any of my
family to give me a break to then me getting
a text which she had to wake me up for
because it's said the following hospital pointment as at one
a PM, will pick you up at nine am and
you're to spend the day with us. You will do this?

Speaker 3 (03:20):
What you will do this?

Speaker 2 (03:22):
This is insane, So I replied back, saying do what
just be your surrogate? Or Am I to donate my
eggs to you and carry my biological child for you?
Because that's what the baby will be if I donate
my eggs to you, won't it? She replied back, saying
the baby will be biologically mine. We have the same
DNA idiot. Be ready now, we'll pick you up and
you can stay at our house so we know where

(03:43):
you are. Are they trying to kidnap o Bee?

Speaker 3 (03:45):
It looks like Opie has a zero zero choice here.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I knew she was going to say this, and with
her living thirty minutes away from me, I rushed upstairs
and grabbed stuff to stay somewhere. My fiance phoned his
parents and they said I could stay with them until
this died down. I've been at my future in laws
for a month. Basically, we all moved into theirs. He's
the only child, and their house is huge and can.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Fit us all.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
But it shouldn't be like this, hiding away from my sister,
who clearly just wants my womb. She hasn't stopped texting
me telling me that I'm an a hole and ruining
her life. But am I I need to clarify. I
did tell CS that I was not comfortable doing either
of them what she wanted me to do, and she
blew up. And there is an update, but pausing really
quick before we jump into it. No, you're not the

(04:27):
a hole. Your sister's crazy.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
You're a hole.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Your sister is insane. Anyone who demands your womb and
thinks that they have some sort of claim over it
regardless of their relation to you, is crazy.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
No, it's your womb, literally, your womb, your choice, and
the fact that she's demanding it in like.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, saying like we're gonna come pick you up now,
be ready.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
You have no choice in this. Your womb is ours.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Like what Today, my dad and my brothers with their
wives are meeting me at my father in law's house.
My other two sisters have decided to choose a side
and will be coming up with their husbands. This is
to discuss and I wanted to update you my CS
crazy sister and her possible mental state. My dad was
talking to her new boyfriend was shortened to envy. They

(05:11):
have dated just under a year and he's standing my
crazy sister but doesn't agree with her wanting to use
me for a surrogate and to use my eggs as well.
He thought they had discussed looking into egg donation and
that crazy sister would be carrying the baby. He was
told I was going to an appointment to support sister,
and she said to him that she and me were
having a girly night, so she was plotting this whole

(05:32):
thing behind his back. It was like, yes, we're having
a girly night where I kidnapped my sister. They moved
in recently together after six months of dating, and Crazy
Sister went to stay with my mom after the incident
with me, which no one knew until new boyfriend told
my dad. Dad is separating from Mom unless she sees
she was part of the situation and still is by
siding with crazy sister and it wasn't the right way

(05:54):
about it, as she knew was wrong. I guess the
mom was on the crazy sister's side.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Girls, I don't get that.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I don't get that. Crazy Sister will be offered again
therapy and this will be paid for by my dad.
She will be told not to contact me until after
she's completed her therapy. If she declines again, then my
dad doesn't want anything to do with her and will
seek legal actions so she doesn't come near the family
that don't want her in their presence anymore.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
If she takes therapy.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Treatment my dad is offering, it's on the ground she
doesn't communicate with my sisters and especially me regarding babies.
I am putting in this agreement that until further notice.
She is not to communicate with me about anything, as
I won't be texting her. She's also banned from attending
my wedding in eighteen months. Regardless if she has treatment
or not. She is not invited. She is not welcome
to celebrate a day of happiness with me in my fiance.

(06:42):
I think she would absolutely make it about herself.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Oh, or like just attack you. Yes, Oh you're the
a hole because I didn't get to use your woe.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
I object because I need you to be my sarrogate. Op.
He continues. The reason why my other two sisters did
radio silence is the fact that crazy sister did act
asked them to be surrogates. So she did go to
other people before obe and they said no. But that
crazy sister carried on texting them both while lying to
me saying she hadn't asked them. The only difference was

(07:11):
they had gone out for lunch, the three of them,
and she sprang it on both of them together, so
they had each other's backs. You're probably thinking, did she
ask my two sister in laws? From what I know,
she hasn't, But I don't think she would because she's
not that close to our brothers, whereas me and my
fiance are always around one of my brothers and we
all get together at least once a week. And our

(07:31):
kids are close in age and go to the same schools,
so they're close to them. Someone messaged me where my
kids were in this situation. They were with their dad.
We have fifty to fifty custody my children and teens.
Their dad remarried a wonderful woman. I'm still friends with
my ex and his wife, I would say is a
very close friend of mine now, as are my fiance
and ex, and we treat his wife's kids just like

(07:52):
our own. We don't leave them out of things, and
on some occasions, if my ex and wife want a
date night, her kids will come to ours and have
sleepovers with my children. My ex and his wife solely
backed me up, even my ex saying I always knew
crazy sister how to screw loose. My kids are teens,
and I understand what's has happened, and they decided to
stay half the month with me at father in law's house,

(08:12):
then the following two weeks with their dad. I think
the realization to why she came out of nowhere asking
me and my sisters is the fact my two sisters
have had kids close together. One had her second two
years ago and the other had hers eighteen months ago.
So me and my fiance are thinking she wanted what
we have with my brothers, but with the sisters, I
need to point out we never exclude her from these

(08:33):
get togethers. There is an open invitation for the siblings,
but it's mainly me and my brothers and our families
that go to one another's house once a week. Father
in laws must think we're a crazy family, but in
all fairness, I think they adopted my brothers and dad
into the family the moment they met them.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Belive this is so healthy, so sweet. How is the
sisters so blinded by being crazy?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
This is really funny because there is like half of
this story is insane's sister asking insane things to OPI,
and the other app is like, and we're super chill
with my ex and my father, like my in laws
are amazing and everyone loves.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Each other like everyone's family. Literally.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
My future mother in law doesn't like the way my
mom deals with things and has on many occasions disagree
with my mom on her treatment towards me. But she
thought that she couldn't tell me what to do because
that's not her place. While being here a month, my
bond with my future in laws is stronger by the way.
You can make your bond with us stronger by joining
us live every weekday three PMPSD on YouTube just to

(09:31):
have her both found tap it.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
This is the last update so far.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
My future in laws know me and my fiance are
trying for a baby ourselves, and I've said we should
tell the family that it's coming today so that they
know the reason why I said no. But it's only
one out of a dozen reasons why I wouldn't be
a surrogate, not just for my sister, but for anyone.
I think you need to have therapy before going down
the road of becoming a surrogate for anyone. My dad
also contacted the clinic to say that I am not consenting.

(09:57):
He found a letter in the house when we were
collecting more things from the house. I'll update you when
I can. Thank you everyone who commented on my last post.
I need to clarify I did tell crazy sister I
was not comfortable doing either of what she wanted me
to do, and she blew up.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Of course, she didn't boom bye.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Of course she did, but she doesn't need to blow
up your life. Just get her out of it. But
that was the end of that story, so we'll see
you next time.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Soya. I made sure there weren't any photos of my
sister at my wedding because she's so self centered.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Wipe her from existence.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Wipe Hey everyone, I thought I will give some context
before going into the am I the able situation. Me
twenty eight female and my sister now thirty two female
never saw eye to eye and never really got along
as I'm not a very selfish person and don't like
being the center of attention. But she's the complete opposite.
She's loud, she has to be the center of attention,

(10:51):
and everything has to be about her. And if you're
not talking about her, helping her, or the day is
mainly about her, she would not be interested.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
It's delightful.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
She sounds like the best person in the world.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Mm mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
See I'm talking about her, so she's probably happy.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
It's probably like wow, Wow, all news is good news.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Isn't he a dream bo By the way, this comes
from user brilliant Bass five ninety seven on the r
Slash Shoka storytime separated. So I know this sounds mean,
but I blame my grandparents. As she was the firstborn,
they did a lot for her, bought her stuff, she
had her own room at theirs, and when she was sixteen,
they bought her a new car and paid her to
travel the world when she was eighteen.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Honestly, as a parent, I'm not buying my children their
own car, like a new car.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Any car, like a used car. Maybe then the used car.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Maybe, I'm like, my mom just gave me. She had
her car from two thousand and six, and then it
went to Sam and then it went to me. Yeah,
that's how it usually works, Which I think that's how
I just don't think I want to give a sixteen
year old who doesn't know how to drive yet a
brand new car that they might damage.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
And you're spoiling them way too much. But that's that's
usually the thing. Usually the firstborn is going to be spoiled,
especially the firstborn, and out of it, like if you
like aunts and uncles or what have you, the firstborn
out of everyone is gonna be the most spoiled. Yeah,
it seems like the sister here is the most spoiled. Yeah,
I was the firstborn in the mya, so you were
the most I was the most spoiled because she was

(12:13):
spoiled by them. That's my reason she's the way she
is now. It's sad, really, because she will never change.
When she was eighteen plus, she would drink nearly every
weekend and come back loud, waking everyone up, as eighteen
year olds do. But she did this till she was
thirty years old, and I sometimes think she's still a
young teen, as she doesn't act like a thirty two
year old woman and would have spicy sleep so loudly

(12:35):
keeping everyone awake, which is just disgusting.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
To hear in her family's house.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
She's thirty two and she's still at home.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I don't know, but regardless of I mean, like, it's
fine if she's at home, but like, keep it down, man,
I have some respect, some respect for yourself and you know,
for the others around you.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Through the years, my other sisters started to dislike how
she was and we all started to tolerate her as
we don't trust her Slash. She can't see eye to
eye with her person as me and my two other
sisters are very similar and we get along like Bestie's.
When it came to her thirtieth birthday, she decided to
celebrate her birthday and have a party on my birthday.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
What are your birthdays close?

Speaker 3 (13:12):
I was gonna say, I need a context.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Yeah, I need to know.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
How close your birthdays because if your birthday's in like
January and her birthdays in June, and she's just like, no,
I just think it's best if.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
It's a birthday year, not a birthday month. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
I just I just think it's better if we celebrate
like me all year out.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah. I was so upset and angry as I planned
to have dinner with my family, but she sent invites
out to all the family and her friends apart from
me and my now husband, because she knew I would
say no.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Why did anyone accept that? Why did anybody accept that invitation?
And they knew who your birthday is?

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah, those are your real family members right there? Like,
who accepted this? I was so shocked how everyone was
fine with it and didn't say anything about it. Her
birthday is a month before my mind. Crazy, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
No one said anything?

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Was it? Okay? I need to again, I need more context?
It was it the day of, was it like the
weekend of? It sounds like he's a day.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
It sounds like this day off like.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
What the actual f was going through her mind. If
I had my birthday party on her birthday, she would
have gone crazy and probably most likely had a hissy
fit like a little kid. I had confronted her on it,
and all she said is that it's her birthday when
it wasn't. She was already thirty and could have our
summer party, but decided to have an autumn party. She
said I could go, but couldn't make it about me,

(14:26):
and I would need to buy a cake if I
wanted people to sing Happy Birthday to me, which I
was like hack No. My husband, a lovely man, surprised
me with a weekend trip for my birthday instead, as
I had no family behind me, only him, which I
felt very sad, but I just realized all I wanted
was my husband. My two sisters messaged me saying we
sang Happy birthday to you and they wish I was there.

(14:48):
I couldn't. It would be weird celebrate my sister's birthday
when it was my actual birthday. Now you have a
bit of context regarding how she is. It came to
my husband in an I's wedding, and during the planning,
I didn't want my oldest sister part of our wedding,
but because I've asked my other two sisters to be
my bridesmaids, I had to ask her. As my dad
and mom was saying I was being mean and unreasonable.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Oh, it's your wedding, your wedding, your wedding, your rules.
If she's allowed to make her birthday on your birthday,
then you don't have to invite her, you know, be
a bridesman at your wedding.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Guess what she's going to make it about her.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
She's just gonna steal it. She's just going to walk
up the altar in a white dress and be like, oh,
I can see.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
That one hundreds.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
It's my wedding now.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah. Especially if she's doing it, it seems like she's doing
it solely to this sister, to not the other sisters.
I just didn't want my time slash milestone to be
taken away from me because of her, So I asked
her eventually, but didn't want to. I didn't have a
maid of honor as my friend decided not to be
friends with me anymore, as I was close to another

(15:50):
girl who was my colleague, but that is another story.
When discussing to the photographer about pictures, I said, please,
can we have less photos of her? And when it
came to planning, he was walking down the aisle first.
As we were having the wedding at my dad's the patio,
you could fit about five to six people on the line,
but there was seven, so she had to be around
for a bit, so I knew it would be best
for her to go down first. On the day, the

(16:12):
videographer and photographer actually had to set up where she
would stand so they can get shots of me and
my husband and me walking down the aisle. She got
pissed off with them and made a scene saying they
had to move, which they ignored and she had to
stand behind them, which she complained to everyone at the wedding.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Okay, so basically she just self centered. The Yeah, the
way he set it up so that the videographer would
be in front of her instead of like, instead of
behind her and getting her in the shots so that
they could, you know, get shots of op.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
But you know what, you get shots of of us
every weekday, just live at three PMPSD it.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
I don't think you've done anything wrong.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
The fact that she was invited, Yeah, and she has
to be such such like important parts of the wedding
mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
I mean the fact, yeah, the fact that she got
to be a bribeman at all. She needs to be
okay with that.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
I mean the fact that you told the videographers and photographers, hey, limit,
she's literally red x do. Yeah. I don't she's gonna
make a scene at the wedding. I'm calling it. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, I do feel like she might, but I think
it's a I don't think that they ai for doing it.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
When we were looking through the wedding photos with family,
she made the first comment, which was I'm not in
any photos. Great, you can't see me. Me, me me.
This went on for thirty minutes, which made me snap
and said, who cares. It wasn't your wedding, wasn't your day?
And at the end of the day did you enjoy yourself?

(17:31):
Did you get dressed up and have fun? Why does
it matter about photos? Why does it matter that you're
not in the spotlight. You'll get your moment one day,
just not now. Get used to it.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Yes, nice, snapped back, let's.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Go love that. The room went silent. My sister cried
and walked off and called me a selfish bee. My
mom stuck by her, and my aunt said she was
being dramatic. Mom has a favorite which is her life drama.
And also I believe she is a narcissist. You believe
she's a narcissist.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
She may or may not be a narcissist. Well, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Also I believe she is a narcissist from the behavior
she shows how she is with our mom. It worries me.
So am I the a hole for doing that? I
feel like is a bit mean, but this is a
year's of rage building up, and this was my only
way to control something she couldn't.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
I mean, like usually I always say like keep you know,
if you have something to say, you don't have to
necessarily do it in public in front of everyone, just
to have a conversation with that person. But she kind
of she's really annoying.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Where's dad in this?

Speaker 2 (18:35):
I don't know, because we know the mom's on on
the daughter's side, But uh.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
I don't think you're the a whole? Just where's the
where's everybody else? They know she's self centered, they know
she's a narcissistic. It seems like no one is really
supporting you other than your husband.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, which kind of sacks. It's like, maybe we have
to limit contact with family members if they're going to
keep making you feel bad about.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
This, if she's just so draining by And that's the
end of that story.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Seeing that story, So we'll see you next time. See,
my brother and his wife treated me like garbage at
their wedding because they thought my boyfriend.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Would propose wyat their wedding.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
So let me preface this by saying that my oldest brother,
him and his wife are five years older than me
female twenty three, and I never had a close relationship
and usually are at odds. By the way, this comes
from drive reputation seventy eight seventy five on the Okay
Storytime subriddite. So we do get along better now that
we're older and don't live together, But almost every time

(19:29):
I see him, he says some stupid, out of pocket
crap because he can't read a room to save his life.
For instance, at my cousin's grad party, he made an
announcement that he didn't clap for my cousin's ex out
of respect for him and his girlfriend, including his girlfriend,
who looked awkward as heck about it. No one knew
what to say. They had a messy breakup due to
her cheating after two years, until my cousin awkwardly thanked

(19:51):
him and we changed the subject. That's just an example
of him being a grown butt man doing dumb crap. Sorry,
I do be talking crap about him when he makes
me mad. Sorry for the cussing at advance. I'm working
on my potty mouth, but I'm sick typing this so
I might slip up. His wedding was in late September,
and it's been bugging me ever since, and I finally
decided I wanted to post online and get other people's

(20:13):
views on the situation. He has been dating his girlfriend
for many years, and when they finally announced their engagement,
I was thrilled for them. I told my brother, let's
call him Diego to let me know if they needed
any help. He replied, well, I could ask if Stacy
has room and her bridal party, but she's got a
lot of bridesmoths already. I said, that's fine. I didn't
expect to be in the bridal party. I was just

(20:34):
offering my help if you needed it, and he replied,
I'll see what I can squeeze you into the ceremony,
but I'm not sure. And I replied, that's fine. I
don't want to be in your ceremony. I was just
offering help if you guys needed anything. I had no
idea how he misinterpreted my words, but apparently he was
talking to my mom later about me being too pushy
about being included. I didn't say anything about it because

(20:55):
my mom explained to him for me. Thank god. I
hate confrontation, and so while I get into fights with
him often, situations like this always make me feel awkward. Anyways,
a few months later, his fiance Stacy invited me to
her bachelorette. I thanked her, but let her know that
i'd have to see since it is out of state
and my finances are a little tight since I'm currently

(21:16):
paying for school out of pocket, I do not recommend this.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Now.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
This part is partially my fault because I procrastinated getting
back to her since I would be really stretching it
to go. My dad did offer to pay if I
couldn't gather the funds since he thought it would be
good bonding for the two of us. But I hate
asking for money and I hate being in socially draining situations.
And a long weekend with her and her sorority sisters,
who I've never met and doubted they had similar quiet

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personalities as me sounded as fun as waxing your butt.
No offense to them, but I'm not a social butterfly
and usually get overwhelmed with social anxiety even meeting one
person for the first time. The minimum I need to
have to pay for the flights and my share of
the air bimb was five hundred dollars, which to grown
people who don't make fifteen dollars an hour and aren't
paying for school isn't much, but to me that was

(22:03):
a lot of money. I had the funds, though, but
I hated the thought of spending it on a trip
I didn't think i'd enjoy, and I was thinking there
would definitely be other costs like gas, alcohol, food, et cetera.
And the bill was rapidly getting bigger in my head.
So I procrastinated on getting back to her because I
didn't want to commit, and I didn't have enough backbone
to say no. But when making a trip to my

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younger cousin's high school graduation, she asked me if I
wanted to do a road trip with her as a
grad present, we would budget five hundred total for a
little over a week. I talked to my dad and
he again offered to pay for the batch party if
I wanted to just pay for the trip with my cousin.
I agreed because the road trip sounded so fun and
I really wanted to do that as a present for
her graduation. This is where I fed up. I didn't

(22:47):
tell Stacy. I got too wrapped up in work and
figuring out the logistics of the road trip. It wasn't
until I was on the trip with my cousin that
she reached out to me, asking me to please confirm
whether I was going or not. I texted her her
quick apology and let her know that my dad agreed
to give me the money for it so I would
be going. She thanked me, and I sent a quick
text to my dad about cheap plates. That's when he

(23:08):
decided to let me know that he was no longer
going to be able to pay for the trip. Some
financial things came up and he didn't have the extra
money to cover my costs, and since I was already
on the trip with my cousin, I no longer had
the money to cover even the minimum five hundred dollars
it would cost me for the flight and Airbnb. I
immediately texted Sacey back, apologizing and telling her that my

(23:29):
dad couldn't pay my way, so I'd have to decline.
She was not happy, mind you, this was one to
one and a half months out, not like the week
before or anything, but I still felt bad for saying
yes and then immediately know after she asked me to
pay my share of the airbnb, since I was canceling
and she had split the cost evenly and was counting
on my share to fifty.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
I felt so bad. I agreed without.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Thinking, and she said she understood that I was a
working student and that I could pay her back in segments.
I didn't want to stir the pot anymore and just agreed,
even though I was immediately strung about how I was
going to have to budget for that on top of
my school payments. But I told my dad what happened
and that I would just pay her my share for
the Airbnb. Luckily for me, he immediately told me no,
and that I was unfair at her grown age to

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be asking someone younger than her to pay for something
she never agreed to. He said a lot of other
not nice stuff, but I'll try to summarize. He asked
how many people were going, and then did the math
and told me she'd have to ask for like thirty
two more dollars from everyone else who are older and
graduated with jobs.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
That's not that's not a big guess. Come on, it
was like three hundred and twenty and with the tight budget, yes, yeah, thirty.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Two thirty two bucks from older people.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
Now.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
No.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
He said that it was his decision that I wasn't going,
since he told me that he would pay for me,
and if she had a problem with it, she could
talk to him directly since he was contributing several thousand
to their wedding. He told me that he was probably
just asking for me to pay out of principle for canceling.
I then had to turn around and tell her, which
I did in the nicest way possible. I tried telling

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her that with school expenses, every penny can and I
couldn't pay for my share of the airbnb, and apologized again.
And mentioned that the expenses should only go up by
a little over thirty dollars per person if she asked
everyone else to chip in a little more. She responded,
and I crap you not. It's really the principle of
you canceling last minute, and it's not fair to me

(25:18):
to have to go back and ask others to chip
in more because you can't pay, and then said it
was fine and she'd cover my share since I can't.
I felt so bad about it for so long until
I talked to my wonderful boyfriend and he asked me
what I do in her situation if I was the
bridesmaid and it was his little sister. I immediately said
I would never ask her to pay, and that's when
it clicked that I wasn't a horrible person. He reassured

(25:40):
me that I wasn't in the wrong since it was
over a month in advance, and that she was just
being a demanding pooh head he didn't say poop, and
that if she couldn't ask her friends for thirty bucks
a month in advance, why was she friends with them?
I loved that man, because I didn't think about it
like that at all. But yeah, Honestly, it wasn't like
fifty plus that she had to ask for. We didn't
talk much after the incident, and I tried to keep

(26:00):
up friendly but distant relations After that. I was glad
I didn't go on the trip since based off the bics,
I would have had to get coordinating outfits and it
looked abougie. Now, the last thing that bugged me was
people told me what they were saying before and after
their wedding. My other brother, who was one of the
groomsmen and helped set up the day before, told me
after the event that the two of them were talking

(26:23):
about how they thought my boyfriend was going to propose
to me and ruin their wedding.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
What what Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
This is But the bride and Op's brother were like, oh,
Pie's boyfriend's definitely gonna propose at our wedding, just based
off nothing.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
I don't understand this couple. Were they just like it's just.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, they're just read they read things wrong.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, I think the brother is definitely the one that
planted that scene.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah. Now, out of everyone in my nuclear family, they
know the least about my relationship with my boyfriend. Why
they thought that I have no idea. Well, yes, my
boyfriend and I have privately talked about marriage since we've
been dating for four years now. It's not something we've
ever brought up with family. I have talked to my
mom about it because we are super close, but I
know she hasn't talked about it with anyone other than me,

(27:04):
and she knows we're waiting to get engaged until we're graduated.
So even if she did tell them, they still would
have no reason to think he was planning to do
it at a wedding. That's an ick and an immediate no.
We both have better taste than that. Well, apparently they
were telling my brother all this, and she said if
he did, she'd make a pregnancy announcement at my wedding,
and that she doubted mine would be as good as hers.

(27:27):
What the f right?

Speaker 4 (27:28):
My thoughts exactly.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
My brother told them that he highly doubted that anything
even close to that would happen at all, and suggested
they talk to him if they were concerned. But they didn't,
and the two of us had a great time drinking
and dancing and had no idea they thought he'd try
to ruin their night. Then, the day after, I got
a call from my cousin. She told me that when
she was helping them clean up the next morning, they
were still talking about how they really thought he'd propose

(27:52):
during the wedding. Dude, what it didn't happen, And my
cousin also told them that she never thought that would
ever happen at all. Where that little thought came from
in their dark little heads, I'll never know, but I
was honestly embarrassed to hear that they were gossiping about me.
My cousin really seemed to think that they'd probably been
talking about it with their wedding parties too. I hate
being gossiped about, and especially after I heard from my

(28:14):
brother later about before the wedding, I just felt embarrassed
and humiliated for some reason. I know it was groundless,
and no one in my family believed them, at least
the ones who told me, and they probably mostly kept
it to their wedding party. I just hate being gossiped
about behind my back. I felt like her bridesmaids all
kind of ignored me, and I just didn't mind them.
But I hate the thought of anyone talking crap about me. Well,

(28:37):
I'm cluelessly being all friendly and nice and I hated
that they thought such rude things about my boyfriend and
thought that either of us would want to ruin their wedding.
I haven't really reached out to them, and they haven't
to me, but I kind of want an apology. I
should have said something as soon as I was told,
but honestly, I didn't want to stir the pot or
make drama. What's done is done, and if they were

(28:57):
to apologize, I'd want an apology to my boy boyfriend
more than me. Still, I didn't want to ruin their
day after or honeymoon, and I'm supposed to be getting
better at having more patients with their BS, but I
wish i'd said something back then. I swear I've recovered
so much from being a doormat to my abusive friends
in high school, but it's still hard to speak up
sometimes and confront anyone. I'm just going to have a

(29:18):
much better wedding than them for one Thursday cost, and
my boyfriend wants security if they do anything dumb. I
really think that's a little extra, though, but you know
it's never extra. Joining us live every weekday at three
pm PSD on YouTube just top a profile.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
I'm afraid that with everything said and done, and OPI
does you know, have a conversation, try and clear the air.
They're still good at your.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Poet wedding, the pregnancy announcement.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
They're going to do a pregnancy announcement anyway.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Yeah, that's my story.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
I was a bit tempted to bring it up when
they visited for Thanksgiving and ask for an apology, but
I'm not sure if that's a good idea since it
was all the way in September and I haven't brought
it up since. Am I'm making a mountain out of
molehill for feeling so put off by it though my
brother just told me I mean to let it go
and shrug it off because he does stupid crap all
the time. But I feel like at his grown age

(30:05):
he shouldn't be talking about his little sister like that.
I'm sure this is long and rambling, and thank you
if you have the patience to read this. I try
my best, but I feel like I have the bubonic
plague right now that I need to sleep. There is
a little bit of communication errors and stuff.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
I think that's also Op calling herself out too. Yeah, likes,
I'm really bad, Like I'm a dormat, but I'm gonna
try and step up and not be a doormat. And
that's good for you, OPI.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
But that's the end of that story.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
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Speaker 2 (30:34):
My mother in law hates my daughter's name, so I
kicked her out of my house. There you go, And
this is a direct okay storytime submission, well straight from
you guys, No way way WHOA. Both me, twenty eight female,
and my husband, thirty male, are from Latin America. We
moved to the UK shortly after we had our eldest,

(30:54):
five male. Our daughter, who turns one in April, was
born here. My mother in law sixties, and my husband's
older brother, thirty seven male, neither of whom I've ever
met my daughter before, are flying over for her birthday.
Brother in law wanted to get a hotel room for himself,
and mother in law doesn't speak any English, so we
decided to have her stay at our place instead of
leaving her alone in a foreign country. By the way,
this comes from Happy Concert twenty eight ninety one on

(31:16):
the Okay storytime suburd It So years ago, when I
was pregnant with my son, my husband and I made
the mistake of revealing his name to our families. My
mother in law spent the next months complaining about it.
She send us lists of name suggestions, look up bad
historical figures with the same name as the one we've chosen,
and just generally say it was awful.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
I want to know the name.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah, really bad, Peter, She like.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
She didn't stop until our son was born and the
name was on his birth certificate. So for my second pregnancy,
we decided to keep our daughter's name a secret until
after her birth. We figured that not knowing her name
until it was unchangeable would stop mother in law from
complaining we were wrong. Our daughter's name is Cecilia. That's
a beautiful name.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
That's gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Minutes after she was born, my mother in law called
my husband and asked, you know cecilia means blind?

Speaker 6 (32:04):
Right?

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Okay. Almost a year later, she hasn't stopped complaining. If
it's not because of the meaning, it's because it's ugly
long or an old lady name.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
There have been occasions in which my husband sent pictures
of her to his family group chat, and his mom
replied with stuff.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Like how cute?

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Too bad a name's Cecilia? Oh my are bullying child?

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Now?

Speaker 4 (32:27):
Please dude stop?

Speaker 2 (32:29):
It genuinely feels like my daughter is being bullied. Here
you go whenever we talk to my mother in law,
which has been happening less and less lately, for this
exact reason, she has a new complaint. Up until now,
the main reason I was able to kind of tune
and out was because she hadn't complained to us in
person or in front of our children. But she'll be
here in less than two weeks, and I'm absolutely certain

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she'll continue her crusade at our home. I don't want
to hear it. I don't want my son to hear it,
and I don't want my baby's first birthday to be
ruined by grandma's being so a couple months months ago,
my husband and I called his mom. We told her
she could no longer stay with us and to ask
brother in law to help her get a hotel room.
We also told her the reasons behind her decision. Mother

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in law cried on the phone and has called us
several times since she always either apologizes, calls us dramatic,
or accuses us of alienating her from her grandkids. Throughout
all this, she continues to insist she has the right
to dislike our daughter's name, and still hasn't booked a
hotel room. My brother in law agree she's being a wiener,
but is upset we told her she can no longer

(33:30):
stay at our place. He's accusing us of forcing an
elderly woman to stay alone in a foreign country, even
though we're perfectly capable of housing her. Well, maybe she
she's perfectly capable of keeping her mouth shut. That's right.
So if she wanted to stay with you, then she
should have done that exactly. So just did you reapply
your life?

Speaker 3 (33:48):
How did you do it?

Speaker 2 (33:49):
He's also mad that after promising for months that mother
in law could stay at her house, we're retracting our offer.
This whole situation has been exhausting, and I'm starting to
worry I might be overreacting. Am I the a hole?
And there are some relevant comments? But what do you think?

Speaker 4 (34:04):
No, Like, why does she have to make them? It's
a name. It's a name, even if it was a
bad name, Like, deal with it? Deal with it.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
You don't get to talk about it after the child
has been named that name, right, and then this is also.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
Just like a beautiful name though too, I still want
to know what the son's name is. Ye, me too,
because at first part of me was like, like this
might be a bad joke, you might have to take
it out, but like, can you imagine it if like
they revealed the name and it's like it's like, I
just want to name my kid Stalin, Like I just want.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
To name my kid ad All.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Yeah, that what's wrong with that?

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Beally funny?

Speaker 4 (34:41):
But I'm sure it's a normal name. Yau Celia is
very normal, very beautiful, exactly.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
But there are some relevant comments on OPI's relationship with
her mother in law. Besides this problem, we have an
okay relationship with her. Could be better, but it's way
less awful than many of my friend's mother in laws.
That said, she's always had the tendency to complain. Even
before we had kids, we knew she'd complained about whatever
names we picked. We just didn't know how bad it
would be. The commoner says, not the ale. She made

(35:09):
the decisions that led to this. You're not making her
do anything and it's not like the UK as a
war zone. Her safety is not at risk. I agree
that safety wouldn't be much of a concern, but I
also agree that being left alone in a foreign country
you'd never visited without knowing the language can be effing terrifying.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
Who is paying for the trip?

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Mother in law's paying for her plane ticket, brother in
law's paying for his. He's also helping her cover some expenses,
but she's paying for most of her stuff, not the
alesays another commenter. And now I'm curious about your son's
name if she takes offense to Cecilia.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
I freaking knew it was good.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Okay, I know I didn't say it, but I was like,
it's Peter or Henry, I freaking call I called it
in my head. I didn't say it outside.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
I really do believe.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
I was like, is it Peter or Henry? You literally
called it? I literally called it, guys, But it doesn't matter.
We could name our kids after her and she'd still complain.
And there is an update. But man, oh man, yeah,
I think she should have kept her mouth shut if
you wanted to stay with.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
You as Yeah, like, I don't know, this is the
cards you've dealt in this little cards you've dealt.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Maybe one thing you could do is like say, hey,
if you you know, if you want to stay with us,
you have to stop talking and if we hear these comments,
you have believe you have to stop talking forever. You
have to stop talking period.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
You can't talk near around us.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Literally, I don't want to hear a word coming out
of your Hey everyone, it's been a while since I posted,
so I wanted to give you an update. I'll try
to be brief for the next couple of weeks. After
my first post, mother in law continued her attempts to
convince us to let her stay with us, but still
refuse to book a hotel room. My husband and I
decided to speak with brother in law again. He told
us that the main reason why he wanted to get

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a hotel room for himself was to explore the city
on his own, but could understand why we didn't want
mother in law to stay with us anymore. Eventually, he
agreed to help her get a different room at the
hotel he'd stay in. From what I gather, he also
spent the weeks leading up to the visit telling his
mother that if she tried complaining about Cecilia's name. At
any point he would call a taxi to send her
back to the hotel, so they did warn her.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
Yeah, they're being fair, They're being fair.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Cecilia's birthday went off without a hitch, except for the
fact that mother in law immediately tried to give her
a nickname. For a few hours, she kept calling her Lilah.
She was doing so behind her backs, and my husband
and I didn't realize until her son came to ask
us if Grandma knew Ceci's name. My brother in law
offered to call the taxi, but we decided to brush
it off. Later, my husband pulled mother in law aside

(37:30):
and said and said that if she ever tried to
complain about either of our children again, she wouldn't get
to visit us anymore. She behaved herself until she and
brother in law flew back home, and we haven't heard
any complaints from mer since. I'm very satisfied with this outcome,
though I'm still worried she'll complain about my kids again
in the future. I now know that we have my
husband's brother by her side, which will greatly help us

(37:50):
navigate our relationship with their mother, and you can navigate
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little bit left to this, But what are your thoughts.
I mean, I think I think it all worked out.

Speaker 6 (38:05):
I think it all worked out.

Speaker 5 (38:06):
I think the mother in law is being crazy. I
think that's so funny that that that that kid was like, uh,
does she know her name? Because it's not saying it,
not saying the right name.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
And it's like, Yeah, that's that's what I was thinking.
That's a good question. But yeah, I think they're they're
handling it just fine.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
I would say, so.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Also, kudos to those who brought up Simon and Garfunkles
Cecilia though I love that one. Our girl was actually
named after a song by Brazilian singer Chico Bark. I
couldn't find a video with English subtitles. Thank you for
reshuring me I wasn't overacting. I wish you all well.
And that is the end of that story, beautiful. I
think that all wrapped up really well. I agree, Yeah,

(38:45):
but that's the end of that story. So we'll see
you next time.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
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Speaker 5 (38:54):
I forbid my mother in law from gifting my daughter
clothes they never fit.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
And this is a direct Okay storytime post. This is
one of ours, one of our own.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Man.

Speaker 6 (39:04):
Maybe maybe she maybe just throw it in the dryer
and shrink it down. There you go, that's our clothes work.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
My mother in law sixty five female and me thirty
four female, were fairly close at the beginning.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
I first met her.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
Son now forty two male, when I was twenty three.
We started dating when I was twenty four, and later
married when I was twenty five.

Speaker 6 (39:24):
Mother moodfast Wickman.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
Mother in law is generally fine. For the first few years.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
We would often go to see her roughly weekly and
would message regularly. My husband was married previously and has
another daughter in law now fourteen female from that marriage.
By the way, this comes from beneficial exam eight one
one five on the r slash Okay Storytime Sepreddit. So
I started to notice that mother in law seemed to
be more and more comfortable talking about her son's ex

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wife and giving me and him details of her contacts
with her and current happenings in ex wife's life, which
naturally gave me the ick. However, I understood that my
husband had a child with the ex wife, and therefore
she would always be a part of our lives. It
was unpleasant and awkward to listen, and I admit I
often dismissed conversation about the ex wife when asked to

(40:11):
provide an opinion. When I was twenty nine, we felt
pregnant with my daughter now three female.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
All congratulations.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
After the twelve week scan, we went to mother in
law to let her know we were expecting. She appeared
extremely happy and cried hearing our news.

Speaker 6 (40:25):
Sweet wr W mother in law.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
At this time she already had five grandchildren. We also
told my mother fifty four female, who was equally as happy,
and this would be her first and only grandchild.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
Unfortunately, my daughter does not.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
Have a maternal or paternal grandfather's. All continued as usual
with mother in law. Husband's ex wife had had a
second child, six male, with her partner. Mother in law
was regularly every couple of weeks seeing this child, and
ex wife's son came to call mother in law nan
despite not being related, likely because his sister my husband

(40:59):
stopped was calling her Nan.

Speaker 6 (41:01):
So this kid isn't related to the mother in law,
but he's still calling her Nan.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
My daughter was born in twenty twenty one.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
Pregnancy was difficult due to the pandemic, and we hadn't
been able to see mother in law as we once had,
but she would regularly message to check in.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
Once my daughter was born, we took her to meet
mother in law and all seemed well.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
My mother traveled two hundred and fifty plus miles from
her home to meet my daughter and spend some time
helping us to look after her in.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
The early days. My mother still lives two hundred.

Speaker 5 (41:29):
And fifty plus miles away and travels at least twice
a year to spend two weeks with my daughter Wow,
taking her to various places.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
And generally making memories.

Speaker 5 (41:37):
We saw mother in law four to five times during
my daughter's first year of life. By the way, mother
in law lives about forty five minutes away, roughly fifteen miles.
Life got busy and it was difficult to spend so
much physical time together, let alone coming out of the pandemic.
We had a party for my daughter's first birthday, which
mother in law attended, which mother in law attended. After that,
we didn't see mother in law for another two months,

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and out that my husband took out daughter to see
mother in law a few months later. Mother in law's
messages were few and far between them. I wish her
Happy Christmas, Happy New Year, Happy Birthday, Mother's Day. There
was always an acknowledgment, but never conversation.

Speaker 6 (42:12):
Oh okay, happy, heavy heavy, Yeah, ok.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
So it's just their whole text message. God, that's upsetting.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
Have you ever had those conversations where it's like, you
send someone happy birthday and like the last text that
someone said was happy birthday, like the year before or
something like that.

Speaker 6 (42:28):
Yeah, it's like great.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
Christmas twenty twenty two and my daughter's second birthday came
and went without a word from mother in law. She
eventually asked to come over and see her to give
her a Christmas and birthday presents. Six months after Christmas
and four months after her birthday. She kindly bought her
many mini gifts. Mother in law commented that my daughter
treated her as a stranger and was having to take
pictures of her from my Facebook as otherwise she would

(42:51):
not see her. I wonder why after this, mother in
law saw daughter once more that year, bringing the total
to two times in twenty twenty three. Twenty twenty three,
Christmas and third Birthday came and went. I reached out
to mother in law in March this year and we
arranged for her to come and see her granddaughter that
month to give her a Christmas and Birthday presents, of
which there was generously a lot.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
As usual.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
Mother in law excused not being around as a result
of life, and that she assumed the family were well
and happy if she hadn't heard from them.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
I don't quite understand what this means, and I didn't ask.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
Amongst the gifts on this occasion was a beautiful jumper
size two to three years would.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
Likely be on the smaller size.

Speaker 5 (43:31):
My daughter is very tall for her age and she
has just had her third birthday, but usually children's clothes
have some stress.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
Unfortunately, this jumper was not forgiving.

Speaker 5 (43:40):
It had no give, and simply my daughter had outgrown
it before mother in law had even arranged to meet
to give her the gifts.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 6 (43:49):
Grow fast, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
Especially at that age.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
Like there's different sizes for like two three months, you know,
and so if you're if there's a third birthday party
and we don't give it present to her till four
months after.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
She's gonna be different size.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
Oh yeah, this is the second time my daughter has
been gifted clothes by mother in law and has got
next to nowhere out of them, simply because mother in
law has not seemingly been interested in arranging a get
together to present the gifts.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
Mother in law, you just gotta get gifts for like
the next age, and then you're good. Problem solve.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Although we have a very.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
Small family and social circle, those in it are aware
that my daughter does better with clothes and the next
size up due to her being impossibly long.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
That's funny.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
This is particularly needed in tops and less so in trousers,
as otherwise they do not fit around her middle. As
I write this post, me and my daughter have not
seen or heard from mother in law since March. My
husband has had the odd message, but otherwise not much.
Mother in law continues to have regular contact with my
husband's other daughter and his ex wife's son.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
No relationship.

Speaker 6 (44:55):
Oh, they don't have a relation. Interesting, so.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
Opie's husband's ex wife's.

Speaker 6 (45:02):
Son probably from another person, from another man.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
Probably yes, So that's why it has no relation. So
that's who was calling her.

Speaker 5 (45:09):
Mother in law now has eight grandchildren in total, my
daughter being the only one from me. Three of her
other grandchildren she also sees weekly. They are also living
roughly forty five minutes away from her in the opposite
direction to us, with mother in law living in between
both locations.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
Wow, so it's not even like it's more convenient for law.
She's just seeing them every week.

Speaker 6 (45:30):
That is weird because there's no relation either, well some.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
Of them there is relation, but there's one that isn't.

Speaker 5 (45:36):
Okay, Okay, yes, there's like I thinking everything else is relating.

Speaker 6 (45:40):
Would you say, OPI? Or what is she mad about? Op?

Speaker 4 (45:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (45:43):
What what is her beef?

Speaker 5 (45:46):
My mother has religiously continued to make the very long
trip from her home to mine to spend time with
my daughter at.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Least twice a year, and calls her weekly to speak
with her.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
By the way, you can always spend time with us,
joining us live on YouTube every week, week day at
three PMPC just to have.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
Her profile her profile easy and there is a little
bit more. But what are we thinking?

Speaker 7 (46:07):
You may have slided your mother in law in some way,
shape or form, because they were good beforehand, Yeah, they were.

Speaker 5 (46:13):
Fine and she was seeing her quite a lot, I think,
and all of a sudden something change with this child.

Speaker 7 (46:22):
I think it might have been between maybe the dad maybe,
like maybe maybe your husband and mother in law.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
With Christmas fast approaching my daughter's birthday only two months
after that, I have asked my husband to gently ask
mother in law to not buy her clothes as a gift,
as I know they will not fit, and I have
suggested she reduced the amount of gifts she purchases. In
my opinion, I would very much appreciate it if she
would make more of an effort to spend time with
our daughter instead of buying a lot of stuff.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
But am I the a whole for asking mother in
law to not buy my daughter clothes? And that's the
end of it.

Speaker 6 (46:55):
She's not going to think ahead, don't waste your money.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
I think that's so reasonable.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
Like it's out that you're not asking her to spend
time with you, which is a lot of Reddit stories
we have seen. Yeah, it's not like you are asking
her to just like I don't know, stop talking, don't
even bother. You're not making this into a fight. You're
just asking like, hey, just maybe buy her something else, Yeah,
because the clothes won't fit.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
Yeah maybe yeah, Or I mean you could say, like
just buy it two sizes is bigger because.

Speaker 6 (47:22):
And a conversation sounds like it's needed.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
For sure, for sure seems like it's being avoided somehow.

Speaker 6 (47:28):
Yep, listen that story.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
That's the end of that story. We'll see you next time.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
My mother in law is driving me crazy while I'm
thirty two weeks pregnant. No so, I twenty six female,
am currently thirty two weeks pregnant with mine and my
husband Felix's twenty seven male first child. Things have been
going well, and one of the great things is that
Felix the builder, and so everything with the nursery went
pretty smooth, pretty fast. We agreed at the start what

(47:54):
kind of vibe we wanted to go with, and it's
pretty much already done. Figured that we get it sorted
as soon as possible, so wasn't another thing to worry
about later. By the way, this comes from Aggravating Scar
seventy five eighteen on the Okay Storytime subridd it. So
my mother in law has always been a bit of
a nightmare, but has been better since the news that
I'm pregnant, though not without issue. For example, she told

(48:15):
me that I should lose some weight and that it
wasn't healthy for me or the baby. You mean the
weight of a baby inside her belly.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
Yeah, the normal baby like you're pregnant.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
The weight of another human being inside of her.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Yes, it's actually not healthy. The baby can't wait.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Anything, so she's going to lose that weight in about
nine months.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
She knows that I used to struggle with anorexia and
I'm not any sort of unhealthy weight. In the past,
I've kept my mouth shut and let Felix deal with her.
As the nursery has almost been completed, she suddenly decided
to invite herself around more. I work from home currently,
and she comes in on the regular, asks me when
I'm going to have lunch, and could you just pop
me at something into and then we'll wander into the
nursery and start rearranging things. Girl, stop coming over. I

(48:58):
know this sounds stupid, but she literally bought an ikea
bag full of stuff that she put in there. It
doesn't match, but I never said anything really beyond oh,
thanks so much for the thought, et cetera. Yesterday when
she came around uninvited. She looked me up and down
and said, really, joggers, leave her alone? And is she
supposed to wear a full suit? Yeah, pregnant or not?

(49:19):
What's wrong with joggers? Literally, what's wrong with joggers?

Speaker 4 (49:21):
It's just clothes.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Thank god Felix isn't here, And then walked into the
nursery and started asking me where the pillows she'd put
in the cribbet gone, why had taken out the fairy
lights hanging on the wall right by it, et cetera.
I explained that they were potential safety hausards to the
future baby, and that i'd taken them out. She started with, oh, well,
I've had three children, and I really think you should
take more of my advice, and then looked me in
the eyes and said, you're really not going to be

(49:44):
a good mother at this rate. Ah, because she doesn't
want fairy lights in the room.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
You suck.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
She'd just suck worried about safety, You suck.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Oh my gosh. I don't know if it was the
pregnancy hormones, but I just stared at her for a
moment and then told her to get out of my house.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
Yes, yes, out out.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
I'd been up all night and had loads of work
and wasn't in the mood. She got very uptight about
it and then left. Felix says he's going to talk
to her and tell her that she shouldn't be reorganizing
anything without our permission. But I don't know if it
was just the hormones and I'm being unreasonable?

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Am I the a hole?

Speaker 2 (50:19):
And there is an update? No, No, she's going to
talk smack and she should be aware that she's going
to be kicked out of the house. Yeah, and she's
not even supposed to be there at all. She just
shows up uninvited, right, So you're just falling through with
her uninvitedness.

Speaker 5 (50:34):
Just the fact that, like she put up the lights, Yeah,
and you were like get out, Or if you just
like I don't know, or if she just said something
about like, uh, but I have three kids and you
were like get out the no, that would be reasonable.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
Yeah, but she said that you're not going to be
a good mother. Yeah, that's crazy, ridiculous, that's crazy. Yeah,
I get her out of there.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Up there real time, Felix and I sat down and
had a conversation about how to manage his mother going forwards.
I told him everything that she had said to me,
and he was adequately furious with her.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
Oh good, good.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
He asked me what exactly I wanted done in the
future so that she'd understand where our boundaries are and
follow them. I told him that I'd rather him speak
to her alone at first, so that I wasn't immediately
made out to be the bad guy. I acted on advice,
and locksmith has been called to change the locks on
the house, and Felix has ordered us a ring doorbell
off Amazon, with the assurance I'll be able to put

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it in. He hates doing the electrics, but.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
You know it is.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
I'll leave him to it, loel And then he called
up mother in law and organized a lunch date for
today so they could have a talk between themselves. He
got back in the afternoon and as he walked into
the door, smiled at me and said shorted and characteristically
went to go and make himself a cup of tea.
I got a message a few minutes later from her
saying she was very sorry for what she had said

(51:50):
to me, that she was in the wrong, only going
to visit when invited, not going to go into the
nursery anymore and was going to respect the rules and
boundaries that he and I set for our home life
and for our child. What did he say to her?

Speaker 4 (52:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:02):
What super effective magic, and after added that she was
sorry for the comments she'd made on my appearance. I'll
believe it when I see it, but at least it's
a good start, and we've all agreed to go for
dinner at some point to talk about future expectations when
the baby comes. I talked to Felix and he said
that she'd been offended at first, didn't believe she'd done
anything wrong, and he also specifically said she hit with

(52:23):
the shpielav oh, I must be such an awful mother then,
and he told me, He told her, it's not about that.
It's about you disrespecting my wife, our child, and our home.
If you continue, you're not going to dream of being
able to see your grandchild. She was apparently an unsurprisingly
sulky and he told her to apologize, and she said
she would, and to her credit and she did. Thank

(52:44):
you all for your advice about how to handle things
going forward with the locks and everything. The amount of
support was crazy, but I can't thank you all enough.
I feel so much calmer about the situation. I don't
know if she's going to stick to what she said
going forwards, but at least boundaries have been set and
I know that feeling has my back. By the way,
we will always have your back if you join us
live every weekdad through PMPST on YouTube. Just have our profile,

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have it and there is a little bit left. But
what what say you about the story?

Speaker 5 (53:12):
Yeah, I'm I'm so glad that the husband is on board.
I feel like so many stories have people like my mom. Yeah,
it's like, oh, she just means like this, but he's like, no,
that's unreasonable and it's crazy. I'm gonna go sort things out.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Yeah, and then and then he does and it worked,
so well, Yeah, that is that, and let's fish the story.
Let's do it on a lighter note. To end, I
asked if he had anything he wanted to say to
the people who had commented, and he said, can you
have that photo of me and Florida Felix? That's not
even slightly relevant, is what she said? Shame, what do

(53:47):
you want for Tea?

Speaker 4 (53:48):
And that's that story?

Speaker 2 (53:50):
A positive story, so lehearted.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
Yeah, this guy's just like you.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Know what.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
My mom's been talking smack about you.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
Yep, that's my wife.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
That's my freaky wife. He went on, you know what
he did.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
This is what I bet he said. He said keep
Oh wait, he said, he said, keep my wife's name
out of his mouth.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
And he went over and smacked her. Yeah, except he
said he didn't smack her because his mom is his mom. Yeah,
but like yeah metaphorically yes, with words.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
And then it was fixed and everything was fine, and
it was fine.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
And they never asked him back to the Academy Awards
and then what aboutitive story? Yeah, I'm very pleased. That's
the end of the story.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
And it's also the end of the episode. So would
you like to do it or shall I?

Speaker 5 (54:35):
You may do it if you love us, make sure
to subscribe We love you and see it tomorrow.