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00:11 r/offmychest - [4] I caught my fiance hooking up with my sister while I’m pregnant and tomorrow I’m exposing everything at our family gathering
10:30 r/trueoffmychest - Im having trouble dealing with the trauma from my fathers infidelity with a close friend as a child
23:57 r/BORUpdates - Wife had emotional affair with OOP's cousin
38:08 r/okstorytime - My gf cheated then stay with that deadbeat cause I moved on quickly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
My sister stole my fiance while I was pregnant.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Did you have a receipt?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I have reached the edge of what I can bear.
I am twenty eight and I've been with my fiance
for just over three years. We lived together with my
four year old daughter from a previous relationship. Three weeks ago,
I found out I am pregnant again. At first I
was overjoyed, naive enough to think we were finally creating
the stable family I have always wanted. By the way,
(00:41):
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So let us know what you would do in the comments,
and Op says, he grew distant. The very next next day,
he ignored my excitement started coming home late, and kept
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his phone glued to him at all times. I began
noticing strange calls and those discreet social media notifications that
vanished too quickly. My gut told me to investigate.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
My gut, my leaky gut.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I almost wish I had not. He has been secretly
hooking up with my older sister behind my back.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Whoa, whoa. Okay, okay, now, I mean that's not okay,
but all right. And he started doing that right after
you said that you would having a baby.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
She was the one I always tolerated, even though she
drags drama wherever she goes. She would hug me when
relatives were around, pretend to be the support of older sibling,
then turn around and bad mouth me to her friends.
I never imagine she would crawl into my life this deeply.
It felt like a slap in the face to read
their messages calling me clueless for not noticing you told
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her about the pregnancy before. He was honest with me
about his doubts, and they joked about how stressed I
would be raising another child. What do you think you're doing, Bud?
Do you think you're just gonna get off easy?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I think he I think that's exactly what he thinks.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I'm gonna take you for child support for everything you're worth.
My sister bragged that our entire family thinks she's the
more interesting and popular sibling. Meanwhile, I'm just the quiet
one who apparently deserves this. I do not know if
they're still meeting in secret or if they just get
a punt out of hurting me. My fiance denies everything
whenever I confront him, says I'm hormonal and that my
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imagination is running wild. My sister keeps messaging me, telling
me I should keep my mouth shut and stop being dramatic.
I am done. Hyd Notice how.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
She's not even denying. Yeah, She's like, you're just being dramatic.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, yeah, I took your partner.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah to that?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Wow, what's it to you? My mother wants me to
talk it out calmly, But how do I fix something?
Things so broken I can barely breathe. My fiance things.
I'll just accept this. He's counting on me being too
shy or too pregnant to do anything. Tomorrow, I plan
to blow this up in front of our entire family.
We are supposed to have a casual get together at
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our parents' house. Ironically, to celebrate my pregnancy announcement, I
will gather my phone, lugs, the screenshots, and all those
humiliating texts they scent each other. Once all the relatives
have settled in, I will put everything on display, no
more secrets. I might burn everything in the process, I
might lose any chance of a pleasant co parenting scenario,
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but I feel like I have no other way to
proclaim my dignity. I've been crying NonStop for days. My
nerves are shot, and all I get from my fiance
is either silent treatment or insults. My sister taunts me
and acts like I am worthless. I see no reason
to protect them anymore. I do not know what happens next.
Maybe they'll run off together, maybe they'll lie or twist
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things around to make me look insane. My fiance has
not contributed much financially, so I worry about affording my
daughter and this potential new baby on my own. Yet
I cannot pretend everything is normal. I have to protect
whatever self respect I have left. I'm going to set
my entire world on fire tomorrow. Part of me feels terrified,
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the other part is numb. Regardless, I'm done letting them
tiptoe around my heart. If they want my silence, they
should have kept their betrayal better hidden. Let everyone see
exactly who they are. That's all I have left.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
That's actually it's insane that they're like, yeah, no, keep
your mouth shut shut, and you're like, for you, babe,
you're hormonal. Okay. The only reason this matters to you
right now because yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Like they're actively cheating on you and then expect you
to just be fine with that.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
No.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
No, your sister too, is like just what the Yeah?
What crazy? But uh, definitely drop them and then Sueme
for child support.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah I think so.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
But we got an update update. I'm still reeling from
what happened. After writing my last post, I spent hours
debating with myself about whether I should really go through
with exposing them at our family gathering. A part of
me was scared I would turn my whole life upside
down forever, but I knew I couldn't keep letting them
walk all over me while pretending everything was fine. I
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called my mom beforean to let her know I was
breaking up with them and to prepare her. When I
arrived at my parents' house, everyone was already there, including
my ex fiance and my sister. My mother tried to
pull me aside, whispering that we should talk first. I
stayed calm, walked straight into the living room where everyone
was sitting, and asked them to listen. They looked confused.
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My sister immediately rolled her eyes, and my fiance mumbled something,
probably hoping I would stay silent. I started reading the
most shocking part.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
It's here, this fricking drama queen about to tell people
how we're just blatantly cheating on her, and that's crazy.
She's a fool. Who are these people? Where they build
these people? The cheater factory, the cheatercake factory.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Oh that's funny. I started reading the most shocking parts
of the messages I found Between the two of them,
they mocked me, joked about me not noticing anything, and
said I deserve this.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Who are these people?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I had time stands proving he was sneaking around with
my own sister while I was at home with my daughter.
My sister stood up and accused me of lying, her
voice defensive and low pitched, but I just kept reading. Oh,
he's doing a dramatic reading of this in front of everyone.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
She goes, you're lying, You're lying, lying.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
You are lying like Will in the season two of
Stranger Things, you lie like Papa, or that the messages
spoke for themselves. I revealed how he told her about
my pregnancy before even discussing it with me, and now
they laughed about me being stressed raising another child. I
fiance tried to dismiss me, claiming I overreacting and misinterpreting
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the situation because of my emotional pregnant state. He even
blamed my mental health. But then he stormed out of
the room. My sister started crying, My dad stared at
the floor silent, while my mother looked horrified. Finally, my
sister snapped and stormed out, yelling that I was a
dramatic liar who blow everything out of proportion. Now the
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fallout begins. My fiance, or rather my ex fiance, has
been texting me non stop. One moment he says he's sorry,
the next he blames me for humiliating him. He shows
zero genuine remorse, He's just mad that I exposed him.
My sister calls me horrendous name, says I ruined our image,
and refuses to take responsibility If the image is in
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four K. There's not much that'll peek, can dow.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
It's just like just own it. At this point, yeah,
been caught.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
He can't look into a mirror and say I don't
like what I see. He's just you.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Well, I mean, you can do that, but you can't
do that and then go and it's you awful someone else.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
It's true. Honestly, I do not even know if they
are still seeing each other or blaming each other for
being caught. Either way, their secret is out, and that's
all I wanted. I'm now talking to a lawyer because
this man barely contributed financially before. I have to protect
my daughter and ensure I never have a child with him.
Only the thought of raising two kids alone is terrifying.
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But that's the end of that story, folks, No, it's not.
There's more. I lied to you. There's a little bit.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
More to the like papa, But do you.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Have any final thoughts before we get into the last part.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Of the story. I hope every other member of your
family supports you through this. I hope so I'm not
and it feels bad.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I'm not, you know, counting on that though. If they
were already like, don't bring up drama.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, don't bring up the drama of your sister cheating
on your cheating with your husband.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, what my cat's name is? Karen says they won't
stay together. It was only fun when they were cheating
on Ope.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, of course, but.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
There's a little bit left to the story. I feel
numb and heartbroken at times, but I also feel a
strange sense of relief. At least everyone knows the truth now.
I exposed everything that day in the living room, But
at least I'm no longer being trampled on in silence.
My sister and ex fiance can no longer laugh behind
my back. Yes, things will probably get messy. They might
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lie to other relatives, people we mutually know, or twist
the story. How are they going to twist the story though? Like, truly,
how would they twist it so much that people listening
to that story aren't just like, Wow, that's a blatant
lie because you were dating Opie and OPI as a
kid with you.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I mean, they could just be like, oh, it's all
fake texts, just faked a bunch of texts.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, oh, just saying like we didn't cheat at all.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Imagine they just try to be like, well, we did
do that, but like she shouldn't care.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
She shouldn't care.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yes, things will probably get messy. They might lie to
other relatives, people we mutually know, or twist the story.
But I'm glad I refuse to keep quiet. All I
can do now is focus on the positive, talk to
my lawyer, and move forward. It will be painful, but
I'll do everything my power to build a new future
on my own terms are away from these people, and
that's the end of the story.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Good. I think that is the right path to take,
moving forward, rid of them. I believe that is correct.
Good job, Op, agreed, and I'm sorry that sucks.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, good buck on raising kids. I hope that you
find a new support system that actually is there for you.
But that's the end of that story, and we've got
another one coming.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
We do.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
My father had a very obvious affair with mine nanny,
at least do it in secret. So basically this mainly
took place between the ages of like fourth to eighth
grade for me, but it's still going on in a way.
I twenty female, had a nanny growing up twenty one
female when this happened. She's around thirty five. Now, let's
call her jets Jackson Dexter, let's call her gex Yikes.
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She was the big sister I've never had. We were
best friends and she was a huge that's role model
for me. I looked up to her so much. She
was gorgeous, young, and we had so much fun during
the year she watched my brother and I. And by
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you want to submit your own stories, go to the
our Slashowcase story time suburd it. I'm Dakota, I'm.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Sophia, I'm Keon.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Well, Louis are here to give you good advice, googly,
but we don't have all the answers. We only know
what we would do, So if you would do something different,
let us know in the comments. As Op says, my parents,
especially my mom, are extremely fun and generous people. After
a while of her babysitting us, she grew deep friendships
with my parents and their friends, who were in their
forties at the time. She was so close with my
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family to the point where my parents and company would
take her to super expensive events every weekend, nice dinners,
family vacations, bars, et cetera. She was truly a member
of the family, and she was about to get on
one of your families members. Oh bob boo, bout boo.
In fact, she got so close with my parents. My mother,
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who works in a very respected profession and position, gave
Jex her car and helped and encouraged her get into
a four year university when I was around six or
seven at the time.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Oh no, oh, no, I don't really know.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I was in a spy phase and would spy on
people for fun.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I you know what, I understand that, not not the
spying part, but I always my friends and I would
we would play spy.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
So you didn't understand that.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
But no, I didn't didn't actually spy on people.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
I don't believe you. That's not That's what a spy
would say.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
No, we were.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Covered yourself. You were like, I actually get that, but
not fully. But I was never a spy.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Were you a totally spy?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Oh that was a good show.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I started noticing Jecks and my father acting very strange,
sneaking off, and eventually started catching them making out in
various places of my house. I knew it was wrong,
but I was too scared to say anything. To my mom,
so I kept the secret to myself because I didn't
want to ruin my family.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Also super concerning that the dad is like cook, I
don't know. I'm a little concerned for Jex. Honestly, she's
like this twenty one year old girl who has been
you know, obviously she has a part to play in
it because she's having this affair, but definitely the fact
that he has a position of power and is also
much older than her a little ichy.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
One time I went through her phone I know her password,
and found explicit text and photos sent between Jex and
my father. For some reason, it didn't disturb me at
the time like it does now. They eventually started becoming
sloppy with their affair, which they've always been sloppy with
their affair because they couldn't hide it from an eight
year old.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, come on, that's never been a good, well hidden affair.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
They began getting sloppy with their affair, and I believe
my mom started catching on, but didn't say anything. At
this point, it was multiple years into the affair and
I had witnessed a plethora of things, and the guilt
of not saying anything grew bigger and bigger on my chest.
One time, on my mom's business trip to California. We're
from New York. They brought Jex, and my mom came
back to the hotel to Jex and my dad cuddling.
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My brother and I were in the living room of
the hotel room. That night. My mom made my dad
sleep on the floor with her and us kids. I
remember her whispering to him in the middle of the
night that she wanted a divorce when she thought we
were sleeping. That was the first night I cried about
the whole ordeal, and the fness of the whole situation
kicked in. So my mom never got a divorce, although
I believe that is when their marriage started to dissolve
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and become more of a business transaction. My mom grew
up in an extremely unstable household and didn't want to
give us kids the trauma she had to deal with,
which I think was a mistake, but I know she
wanted the best for us. I believe crap started hitting
the fan when my dad invited Jax to come with
us to a very prestigious business trip conference that my
mom had to attend. This is when it gets bad.
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My mom was out at a company dinner. So it
was me, my brother Jax, and my father in the
hotel room think two queen beds. My brother fell asleep
next to me, and I guess they thought I was
asleep too, because they started doing the deed.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Disgusting, literally disgusted the kids. Arrest them, genuinely arrested if
I found out that two adults were or if my
part like, let's say I have a child and my partner.
I mean, the levels of this is insane. Not only
are they doing this in the same room, but they're cheating.
I just just disgusting, literally disgusting. This reminds me of
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that Walking Dead scene you wan't talking about when uh,
what's his face and.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
His wife Laurie? Is it laur And it's.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
The main guy, the Rick Rick and his wife Lri Yeah,
and they're like in the same tent as their son
and they're like, he won't wake up. It's fine, crazy
and Coral's just disgusting, disgusting, your freaks and I hate you.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
There's a freak back there.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Thank God my brother was asleep and didn't have to
witness it. I also remember I have never had to
peace so bad in my life, but I couldn't get up.
I just had to shut my eyes to pretend it
was going to be over.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
That is traumatic, Yeah, literally trauma.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
That is traumatic trauma.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
It felt like ours. I ended up peeling the bed
because I couldn't hold it anymore.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Even more traumatic.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Ay, then I heard banging on the door. They didn't
get up and answer it. It was my mom who
forgot her key and couldn't get back in. No, they continued.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
What these people were monsters?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
My mom called the phone in the hotel room over
and over and over again, coming back and knocking, but
they wouldn't get up. I remember feeling so relieved my
mom was coming back. She's my best friend in the world. Eventually,
my mom got an employee to give her a new
key and open the door, and Jack's and my father
jumped up and tried to compose themselves. I remember she
was in a bra and got under the covers and
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pretended to be watching a movie. My mom, you could
just tell, was done. She was livid. She didn't react
because she would never make a scene in front of
her kids, but she looked like she was going to
unalive someone. I had to explain that. I went to
bed in my sleep. It ruined my views on marriage.
I never told anyone this until I was fourteen. By now,
my mom had fired the babysitter.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I am shocked that she didn't fire her before. Yeah,
she knew that they were like cuddling. She probably knew
that there was something going on. If you knew something
was going on, she should have fought. Like I know,
she didn't want to create problems for the kids, but
honestly like this and moved to not fire.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
This was creating more problems. Yeah, for the kids and
for just everyone else.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, like ale move not great on either of these.
I mean, obviously her dad is like a monster, but
you know, not great moves on the mom's part.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
By now, my mom had fired the babysitter. My dad
and my mother's relationship had ended. But it was this
weird unspoken thing that we could never bring up in
front of my dad. He has a drinking problem and
anger issues. And at this point my relationship with my
dad was really bad and we had gotten into several fights,
including me getting booted out. Mind you, these all happened
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when my mom was out of town. She had many
long business trips. I started resenting my dad. No way started.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
You just started. Dang man, you did. I wonder why.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
My mom at this point freely talked about it with
my brother and I and the catches. My dad and
Jack's were obviously still together. He would leave every and
still does Thursday through Sunday. I knew because I would
have friends tell me they saw them at restaurants and
hotels right by where we live, which I don't understand
how ignorant you have to be. This was humiliating for me.
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She would post on social media places. I just knew
who they were together. Funny thing. There's been a couple
occasions my dad has gotten really wasted and made me
text her Happy Birthday, Merry Christmas, et cetera. And we
have a little bit more story left. This is really terrible.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Your dad's a nightmare monster from the Black Lagoon.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
Nightmare, nightmare, nightmare.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Truly, if anyone was from the Black Lagoon and happened
to be a creature hailing from said place, it would
be a father.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Not to bring it back to that one really traumatic point,
but the fact that one you were in the room,
two someone was your mom.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Was banging on bing on the door, saying.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Let me in.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Problem they didn't get up until.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Not even a single budget and then use a oh
you got so many what dude?
Speaker 5 (19:01):
That like?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I mean, I think the layers of this is kind
of complicated because it's obviously dad that's the worst one here.
Jack's is pretty bad too, but also just kind of
looking again at she's twenty one, he's probably you know,
at least mid thirties. Yeah, and also her boss, so
just really bad there too. This person I feel like
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has been you know, manipulated, and she's you know, obviously
still in the wrong, but just the layers of that,
and then your mom is just not protecting you because
she thinks, in her mind, oh, if I just don't
say anything, it's better for the kids.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Why not Maybe well, it was probably not to protect
the mom in any way, but the mom maybe didn't
maybe assume the kids didn't know.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I think so. I think she assumed that they didn't
know and that it was bad for her just to
not say anything. And my point is that's never good
for the kids. I think there's just this like idea
that it's always better for the kids if you just
keep your mouth shut and try and keep everything.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Yeah, especially when the kids will see a huge different
dynamic between mom and dad.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Yeah, mom and dad, it's no longer talking. Yeah, kids
notic things, but kids won't, especially something like this.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, kids are smart, but.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Kids sometimes don't want to get in trouble, like I
guarantee you. OPI is like, I know what's happening. I'm
not going to say.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Things so traumatized. I'm going to tell you internalize that later.
And you're like, well, why didn't I say anything? It's
my fault.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I just hope OPI doesn't
blame themselves.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Seven years olds keep better.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
You didn't know any better, but you knew, you knew
it was wrong, but you didn't know how to handle
that situation. Nobody knows handle that situation your child.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, damn, that's so.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
And then you had to pee the bed.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
So traumatized.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Oh so traumatizing.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Well, let's finish the story. I finally told my mom
when I was fourteen about how I knew for years
and what I witnessed, and it seemed like her heart shattered.
She felt like she failed protecting me and like she
should have known. They are still together to this day
and my mom is finally getting a divorce. Her and
my dad are just trying to work out the finances
in the house, et cetera. I don't even know why
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I'm sharing this because it's honestly not that bad compared
to other trauma children have gone through.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
What about literal baby?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
That is really rough though.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, your father who is again your father, and then
your babysitter who you looked up to, just completely blew
up your life. That's pretty traumatizing.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah. I'm blessed to live such a privileged life, and
it kind of seems silly complaining about something so irrelevant.
But I don't think I've fully processed it, and I
don't think you have either. Given know what you just said.
Maybe I should see a therapist. I don't know, but
it feels really embarrassing to have to tell someone face
to face you should see a therapist. That is the
end of that story. You definitely need to fully work
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through that because there are a lot of moving parts,
and uh, yeah, that's highly traumatic, I would assume. Yeah, yeah,
but you can get there. You're gonna be okay, You're
gonna be okay.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, Oh man, Yeah, this dad is just a horrible person,
just such a bad person. Also, I just want to
I'm not trying to negate that the babysitter has done
like blown up a family unit, and you know did
was a willing participate, but it is like an element
that the dad is a much older boss. It's kind
of the same thing with like the the whole me
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too movement of having women consenting to a relationship, but
obviously there was a really really ichy power dynamic there
which you know was not okay. So it's like, I
still think it's an element that makes the dad even worse.
It's like, yeah, she's still is helping, but he's.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Well it sounds like there what I mean, they have
a lot of money and resources and yeah, you know,
she's been on a lot of trips and had this,
so it's like, of course she's going to be attracted
to that to some extent, but she's still a.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Twenty one year old in this.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I just think that makes the dad twenty one year
olds can go to war and all that. I think
I think twenty one is old enough to I agree,
you're you're making an informed decision on like am I
going to sleep with this man who's older than me
or not.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
No, no, no, I agree.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I attracted to this guy or not.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
But I would still say a twenty one year old
if I like, if I'm looking at a twenty one
year old getting with thirty six year old thirty six
or like.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
You know, I'm assuming the thirty six year old should
be like, I'm not exactly really why would I do this?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
That's my point.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Other than just being like, yeah, I'm using this person.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I think there is an element of he is using
her and it makes him even worse. Not that it
doesn't make her bad. That's my point.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Did hope he say there's still together?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I just can't imagine being like in your forties, like yeah,
until it's just.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Like exactly, that's my point.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Maybe I understand when I'm in my forties, but I
can't understand now because it's like.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, no, I think it just makes him like look
just just he's like a monster at that point because
of all the layers are there.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah. Yeah, but that's the end of that story. Yeah,
And we have another one.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Where my wife had an affair with my cousin. Trigger
warning emotional abuse, trigger warning for mentions of self harm.
I have a cousin who was also my closest friend.
As my closest friend, he was often at my house
when I lived with my parents, and he continued to
visit me frequently after I got married. I have been
married for three years. By the way, this comes from
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Plastic Year twenty three oh six. And if you have
smit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay
storytime subured it. I'm Sophia, I'm Dakota, I'm Keon, and
we're here to give good advice. Goofy, but we don't
have all the answers. We only know what we'd do,
So let us know what you would do in the comments.
During these visits, my wife, who is normally shy and
reserved around my friends, began to hang out with us
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from time to time because he became very familiar with
his constant visits and she saw him as a cousin
of hers as well. It's also important to note that
my wife has some undiagnosed mental illnesses such as BPD,
seasonal depression, and unresolved abandonment issues from her childhood. Eventually,
my wife began to join my cousin and me when
we would hang out together outside of the home as well,
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and we regularly started hanging out altogether. I now know
that I was essentially setting myself up for failure by
helping them create a bond. After weeks of my wife
constantly crying and feeling depressed beyond anything I'd ever seen,
she confessed to me that the reason she had been
feeling this way was because of an overwhelming guilt about
having developed an emotional attachment to.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Another man, not another man.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
At this point, she was completely distraught and could barely
get her words out, so I simply comforted her while
trying to hold in my shock and anger at what
I had just heard. She eventually confessed that it had
been going on for some time, twelve months since her
first feelings that she's suppressed, nine months since they started
talking on and off, three to four months since they
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started talking every day, and two months since they confessed
that they had these feelings. My cousin eventually ended things
officially around four weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Eh, yeah, but it doesn't really end.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I spoke to my cousin and he confessed without knowing
that my wife had already told me, and their stories
matched up. I need some advice. Is there any way
that this marriage is repairable, or should I just move on.
I definitely cannot trust her right now, and I'm not
sure if I ever will again. I've spoken to two shakes,
and they both advised me not to rush into my decisions.
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But one told me to wait two to three weeks
and one told me to wait four to six months
for what?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
What are we waiting for a sign?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
The one who told me to wait four to six
months later told me that I might have to end
things sooner if my wife's mental condition doesn't improve, because
the marriage seems unsustainable. My wife and I are both
twenty five, and I have no kids. She is self
harming at times and often says she doesn't want to
live anymore because of what she's done. She's filled with guilt.
But she also admitted to me that she's still grieving
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the loss of the friendship she had with my cousin.
What which makes my blood boil? Is it cheek or shake?
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Thank you? So?
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Just chocolate vanilla the chic?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I just want to make sure I'm pronouncing that right.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I don't just say chic. However you say it in
your heart is the right way.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I don't think that's true.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
That is true. However you hear it in your heart
is the right way to say it.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I don't know about that, Yeah, missus Jaberd says, trying
your best therapy. Yeah, she needs therapy badly, and hope
he needs to leave this relationship no matter I think,
there's always that guilt of being like my partner is
going to hurt themselves or not be well if I
leave them, even though they've hurt me. Yeah, but yeah,
it's not.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
It's a shake shake, thank you.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
The Sheikh said this is normal, but to monitor if
she still feels this way in the next few months.
This has been the biggest betrayal imaginable, and it has
also made me dread upcoming family gatherings where my cousin
will be and I'll be expected to bring my wife
because of course, no one in our family knows about this.
My wife is very clear that she only wants to
be with me, and she wants to make this marriage
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work more than anything I've known her my entire adult life,
and even though our marriage is not perfect, we've been
pretty compatible so far and I simply can't imagine life
without her, even though she's hurt me in the most
unimaginable way, and there is an update. I mean, I
understand that she's got like a mental health you know,
disorder here, but that doesn't excuse the fact that she
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cheated on you. Yeah, maybe she can find help to
you know, improve in future relationships. But I think I
don't know if you can get back that trust. And
also it very much doesn't excuse your cousin because he
has no reason for doing any of this other than
he just cheated with your wife.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
So yeah, truly nothing to be really yeah salvaged. I think, Yeah,
I think that you can. Yeah, I not want her,
You cannot want her to be you want the best
for her of distress. But yeah, like I don't know, doesn't.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Mean you have to be with her. Two months later,
I'm trying to stay distracted by playing football, going to
the gym, and spending time with the mosque. The relationship
is volatile. Some days she is loving and some days
she's arguing with me. Well, also, we know she's BBB,
so we see a marriage counselor we got Nika religious marriage.
And when I was twenty one and moved in together.
When I was twenty two, my wife still holds resentment
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and says it openly. The reasons she cited were that
I played football three to four days a week for
a few hours, and she said this abandonment was a
contributing factor that subsequently led to her affair. While I
have tried to cut off contact with my cousin, it
is difficult given the family circles.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
There's no way she just blamed you like having a
hobby as the reason why she was justified and cheating
on you with your cousin.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, well she's trying to get any reasoning that isn't
I cheated on you because I cheated on you.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yeah, got to own it.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, you have to own it, especially because she is
not willing to own it completely. There is no path
to redemption here. But yeah, it's tough. There is another
update though, three months later. This week, my wife and
I divorced after being married for three and a half years.
It was very sad, so got extremely emotional and I
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also shed some tears, but I believe it had to
be done as I couldn't look past the affair. My
wife is in the process of moving back into the
home we shared, and I'm going to live with my
parents for the remainder of her ida. A three month
period of separation after divorce or loss intended to restore
one's emotional and mental health and remove any confusion in
case of pregnancy. She came to the house today and
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in the evening she asked me if we could talk
because she was not happy that I was in a
bad mood towards her.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
She's like, hey, thought that with me, she'd have thought
about that before you slept with my cousin. Maybe my
mood would be improved.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Maybe she knows. The reason was because I'm having aunties
call me and even coming over to try to get
me to give my wife a second chance. No, and
I find this very triggering because they don't know what
I've gone through. I've hidden from them the fact that
she had an affair to protect her dignity and reputation
and to not reveal that the affair partner is their
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nephew and my cousin. Honestly, if you don't want to
reveal that, maybe go to her and say, hey, you
need to get them off my back, or I'm going
to tell them why.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
One hundred percent. Yeah, No, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Put it to her. They shouldn't be bothering you.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
If everyone's give her a good chance, you're the people
start If your family members starts saying you're the bad guy,
oh boy.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, I'd be like, hey, you need to get them
off my back, or I'm telling.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
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Speaker 2 (31:17):
They all see her as a kind girl who's very sweet,
which she is at times, but they don't know what
I've gone through with the affair and with all the
verbal abuse and temper issues throughout the marriage. I always
shielded my family from seeing this side of her. She's
also really good at being the best version of herself
around others, particularly family. There are a lot of good
things about her personality and character that I would look
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for in another wife, so that should be made clear.
I told her that I didn't want to talk about
things right now, but she insisted and kept talking about
it anyway, saying that we wouldn't have any other time
to talk. She began asking why I've forgotten all the
good things she did because you cheated on him, Because
you're cheater. Kind of outweighs all the puppies you saved,
and this actually saved puppies.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
We have to factor puppy.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Saving factor in the puppy saving and the sacrifices she
made in our marriage. What sacrifices you sacrificed the marriage,
That's what you sacrificed. And that I'm just labeling her
for one thing she did.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Oh my gosh, it's so crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
You're literally labeling me for the worst thing I did.
What about all the other good things I did?
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Honey? I did like, I took up the.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Trash, I did the chores, I slept with your cousin.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Why can't you just why can't you just cast the
worst thing I did?
Speaker 5 (32:27):
She would have banded over it.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
It's a little booboo shadow of I think it was
borderline personality sort I think that was, Uh can you
look at s at the beginning of the story. Yeah,
I'm pretty sure it was borderline.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I insisted it wasn't just one thing, and I said
that I haven't forgotten about all the good because if
I had, I wouldn't be treating her with kindness. I'd
be cold to her like I am to my cousin.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
It is borderline personality and seasonal depression.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I was then alerted to news that one of my
ex colleagues and a friend was being rushed to the
hospital after serious car accident, and she became even more
upset that I was diverting my focus from our conversation,
saying that this was symptomatic of our problems in the marriage,
where she always had to fight for my attention and
that's what caused this problem between us. She's literally blaming you.
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She's blaming you for cheating on you.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
It's all your fault. It's all your fault. If you
had given me more attention, Lady wouldn't have cheated.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
She's stinky.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I'm sure that that is all that was really missing.
If you wouldn't have played football for two hours during
the week each day, I think.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I probably wouldn't have had time to cheat on you.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Fine.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
She also said that for the record, after some time,
she would have forgiven me for cheating if I had
done what she had. What is.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Easy to say that, seeing guys, I haven't cheated on you,
so you can say that all.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
She's like, well, if you had done it, I wouldn't
have been upset.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
She's trying every manipulation tactic in the book rely and
it's just not.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
She's a very sensitive person and can't even handle the
perceived threat of being abandoned. So if she found out
that I had an emotional relationship with another woman, let
alone a relative of hers, she would have lost her mind.
She even fell down to her knees crying. Why I
thought in my head, I'm pretty sure that's my line.
So the reason why I'm asking all this is do
I owe it to her to have these final discussions
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about where things went wrong in our marriage so she
can get some closure, or do we just stop talking
about the issue entirely and move on separately. I'm trying
to do everything by the book gron and Sunna and
not take away any of her writes from her regardless
of how the marriage ended. I want both of us
to be able to heal from this marriage ending. I've
always tried to carry myself with respect and honor, even
in the face of this most heinous betrayal. And there
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is a third update.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
Op, you're being too night she dis I was gonna say, Op,
you're being a wa way too good of a person,
And that's good, You're being an honorable person. But you
don't owe her these things, you know, anything, especially the
way she's trying to manipulate and be tactical about it.
It's gross behavior. The fact that she can't own up
to it and she's like, you don't have to be like, oh,
where did our marriage go wrong?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah, she cheated. Cheated, That's where it went wrong. She
cheated on you for.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Months with your cousin.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
You guys have been together for three years total, and
she's cheated on you for a year of that.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
It's one third baby, Yeah, Like, there is no excuse.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
And I hate when cheaters try to excuse their relationship
of their affairs by saying, oh, well, it was your
fault because there were problems in the relationship that I
never told you about.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Her fault and your fault.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
Supposedly from her reasoning was you have a hobby.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
You you play football, so.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
I have to play with balls.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
It's only fair. Update one year later, I reflect and
believe that ironically being cheated on was the key to
some of the biggest bussings in my life. Glass half
full kind of guy. I have met some incredible people,
travel too many countries, begun seeking Islamic knowledge, and developed
incredible friendships with brothers. Some of my family members have
figured it out or had suspicions and have gone cold
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with the cousin. Good and there is another update two
years later.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
It's also shows it shows that Opie is not trying
to be dramatic.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Ye, not trying to have drama.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
Honestly, I would bring it up to her and like,
you should be so lucky that I'm not telling anybody
about this, and you're still bringing it up, and you're
still trying to not be accountable.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Just stop it.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah, Yeah, it's just it's exhausting.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
At this point, I'm trying to search up out a prince.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
It's been exhausting the whole time. Really, one second.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
I want to start by saying, Aham duli la, thank
God for everything, whether things go in a way that
we think is good or not. Two years ago, my
ex wife had an emotional affair with my cousin, and
that was a time that felt like I was in
a black hole with no sight of the top. Two
years later, I've experienced highs in my Dean walk of faith,
business and now personal life that seemed unimaginable at the time.
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But there is a little bit left to this story.
Any final thoughts.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I hope your next wife super hot, yeah, super cool, yeah,
super hot, super cool, and.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
She enjoys your hobbies and maybe you guys can do
hobbies together.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Maybe she plays football too, and she only cheats on
you with you like in.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Pinac Lada song. Anyway, I found out about my ex
wife's affair a week before Ramadan in twenty twenty three.
Then in the final week of Ramadan in twenty twenty five,
I met the kindest, most patient, most beautiful woman I've
met my life. She too had been married before, and
in her first marriage she endured her own tough trials
that shaped the person she is today, a woman of
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immense strength that she does not claim or boast about. Finally, enough,
we met on this very separate in marriage ISO where
she saw my profile and reached out, and that simple
message led to what we have today. Alamdu la la.
We are now married and enjoying our honeymoon, and I
wouldn't change anything that brought us to where we are today.
And that's the end of that story, folks.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
I just want to know if the cousin and the
ex wife are now together.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Oh Lord, prop maybe I don't know. I don't think
that would last though, especially.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
A lot of time at all, not at all. Malort, malort?
Do you want malort malort.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
That's the end of that story. And we got another
one coming up, folks.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
We do.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
I caught my girlfriend cheating and it ruined her life.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
How that happened?
Speaker 4 (38:13):
And this is directly from the r slash okay story
time subreddit. This is one of our own here. This
happened over fifteen years ago. We were both thirty eight now.
She was an old high school crush. We reconnected in
our early twenties despite running in different circles. I was
into festivals, she was into clubs. We dated for about
a year and I got really close with her little brother.
By the way, this comes from BJH six h two
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And if you want to submit your own stories, go
to the r slash okay storytime subreddits. And I'm Angie,
I'm Sophia, I'm Carly, and we're here to give good
advice goofully. But we don't have all the answers. We
just know what we would do in the situation. But
let us know what you would do in the comments.
So Opie says, one night, I went to meet her
at a club where she was already hanging out with friends.
I linked up with her brother and we headed in,
only to see her sitting on her coworker's lap, chatting
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casually with everyone like it was nothing. Her brother looked shocked.
We walked up and she went pale, and I just
casually asked how everyone was doing, pretending I didn't notice.
She brushed it off as normal. I think she had
been flirting with this coworker let's call him Dean, because
he's a total wiener at work. But I don't know
how Dean goes into that, like just another D word.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
The only thing, yeah, the only thing I can think
of is like Gilmour girls, because Dean, Okay, okay, I
don't know your shirt right now is making quite.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
A good Yeah, yeah, that's that's probably why. Yeah, but
that night was the first time that she actually crossed
the line and did something physical. When I left the club,
I casually walked out like nothing was wrong, but deep
down I knew it was over right then and there.
I told him that I was heading to a house
party elsewhere, and her brother came with me, apologizing for
her the whole way. The party turned out to be
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at this girl's place, who is female thirty five now,
she was eighteen back then, someone I had flirted with
and run into at festivals over the past year or so.
We hit it off while her brother hung out and
had fun. About an hour later, my girlfriend showed up
out of nowhere. I still don't know how she tracked
us down. She apologized, acted normal, and tried to get
me to go back to my place with her.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I declined.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
She even asked to crash in the host's bed to
lure me in, but I said no. I told her
brother to drive her home and let him know that
I was done. I didn't trust her anymore, and we
were over on her way out, I stayed polite while
he told her that she had messed up big time.
That night, I hooked up with the host Okay, in
her bedroom. Wow, the exact same one that my girlfriend
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had been trying to drag me in two just minutes earlier.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Wait, with the.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Door open and people all around the house while the
party raged on, I'm.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Sorry, what just happened?
Speaker 4 (40:45):
What?
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Oh my gosh, can you like cash me?
Speaker 6 (40:48):
Like?
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:49):
I literally am so confused, so much just happened.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
So, okay, they're at a girl's birthday party. This is
after he saw her at the club with her on
boss's lap. Okay, so right now, all.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
He knows is that she sat on someone's lap.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
I guess so. But he still was like, that's over,
and so she, I think, was like apologizing and then
trying to seduce him into the party girl's bedroom to hook.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Up at this party.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
And then he was like, no, brother, take her home.
I'm done, and then he went back to the party,
hooked up with party with the birthday girl in that
bedroom doors open party, going on, oh, pe crazy that.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
You're one of our own. Yeah, not a great move.
Pretty bad move if you're still calling her your girlfriend
at the time.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Yeah, we're done, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
He's still called he didn't say my ex girlfriend. Yeah,
y'all aren't actually done. It's I mean, also, just it's
not even okay. If you are done and you have
broken up, do not a classy.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Move you Oh for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
I I gotta give it to you straight op.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
Yeah, that's just I'm just like, there's a lot of
layers there, but the one that I'm stuck on is
that you left the door and hooked up with the
door open. Yeah, people all around. Yeah, that's wild, that's
so wild.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Speed Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
But even her brother came back after dropping her off
and joined in the vibe. What I'm guessing vibe cannot
what yikes. I didn't talk to my ex for about
five years. After that, I started dating the host and
that lasted about nine months. She ended up with Dean
a few months later. From when I heard Dean was
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a heavy drinker who treated her like garbage.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Yikes.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
He basically moved himself into her house and had this
gross habit of geeing in the corner of her bedroom
when he was two wasted to make it to the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Why do you know this? How do you know this?
That would anyone ever share this import I mean.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
That's like the kind of rumor that would I think
go around. But yes, like, can you believe this happened?
Speaker 2 (42:59):
But she who is she telling? Unless you're breaking out
with the guy, I would never tell anyone. Yeah, I
would keep that to myself unless I broke up, and
then I'd be like, oh my god, you will not believe.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
This crazy thing.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
Dude, that's wild.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
So okay, So she seems like she cheated, he breaks
up with her, yep, I guess that was a little
unclear to me. Yeah, and then he immediately hooks up
with someone else yep, dates her for nine months, and
then I guess she got with the boss man. Oh, pep.
It seems like you are reeling in this moment.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Yeah, yeah, hey's Sean here. We're gonna get back to
this episode. But a quick three minute break with Azer
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Speaker 4 (43:35):
They stay together long enough to have two kids.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
What this is a wild story.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
He barely lifted a finger for them and didn't provide
any financial support. She finally left him and had to
sell her house to get away. Now she's been a
great new partner who's stepped up as a dad to
her other two kids in every way, and they've had
two more together. Now, deean totally irresponsible man. He has
zero to do with her or the kids. And there
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is a little bit more to this story. But Wowie Zouie.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
I don't even know what advice to give you. Yeah,
because it seems like it's been five years you've.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
Been more than that.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Yeah, I guess it seems like you didn't cheat on her,
because it seems like you did break up. That was
a little unclear to me. So you're in the clear there.
I would just say, like, in the future, if we
ever have messy breakups like this, you know, don't maybe
don't don't immediately hook up with someone else at a party.
It's just not healthy, you know, it's not a healthy
way to process. But like feels like you probably know
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that now.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Yeah, all of the people in this story are just
like wacky Doodle, the wacky Doodle, Like, all the love
to you, especially since you're one of our own.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
That makes you special. It makes you special.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
But but and also I just a wild story. I hope.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
I hope five years pat later, I hope we are
in more like stable part of our life.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Yes, I hope.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
Oh yeah, no, there this was like yeah, years, years,
years ago.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah, so you probably yeah, you're probably doing way better now.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
Yeah, hopefully there's a little bit more to the story. Recently,
her brother told me that she only got with Dean
and stuck it out because I moved on the same night.
She wanted to quote prove that it was worth it
and show that she had it better than meat.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Well she sucks.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
Yeah, I do feel bad about how it ended. There
was no direct to communication for me, just ghosting through
her brother for years. There was no drama or fighting,
and if we run into each other now we chat
like old friends. But knowing she went through all that
heck with Dean partly because how I handled it, it
eats at me. Was my lack of closure of the spark.
I just needed to vent this and there is no
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more to that story. But I don't know. I don't
think you have to feel guilty about it.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
No, I don't think you need to feel guilty about
anything that happened with your ex girlfriend because she cheated
on you. Yeah, However, I think it just like just
going forward knowing that that was not a healthy way
to handle that situation is going to benefit you.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Yeah, I think it's so. Yeah, I think your actions
just mostly affected you. I think, you know, because she
saw that and made those choices because of that is
that's all her choice. She did not have to react
that way.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
And also, I.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
Don't think that you have to feel bad about that
at all. It's more of just like we want you
to change for your own sakes exactly. But I'm sure
you have though, yeah, I mean five years yeah, yeah,
like yeah, that was that was that was that was that.
I do wonder because this was like this was this
happened over fifteen years ago, So I hope that.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Wait, it's happened fifteen years ago.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
Yeah, five, no, because it started out when OPI was
like twenty one. Oh and now Op's thirty eight, and
so there we got like five years in this story.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
But you've got to play it now. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Yeah, you've got to be gotta be good. If you've
got an update for that, let us know, because I'm
I hope that you're you're doing well. If it's still
eating at you, I'm sorry, I don't think it needs to.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
I agree. Yeah, I don't think. I don't think it.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Yeah, I think. I think when you're young, you often
handle things like this poorly. Yeah, it's just something to
learn from, Yeah, which I think you have, I'm sure.
But that's the end of that story.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Yes it is.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
My sister stole my fiance while I was pregnant.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Did you have a receipt?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I have reached the edge of what I can bear.
I am twenty eight and I've been with my fiance
for just over three years. We lived together with my
four year old daughter from a previous relationship. Three weeks ago,
I found out I am pregnant again. At first I
was overjoyed, naive enough to think we were finally creating
the stable family I have always wanted. By the way,
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don't have any answers. We only know what we'd do,
So let us know what you would do in the comments,
and Op says, he grew distant. The very next next day,
he ignored my excitement started coming home late, and kept
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his phone glued to him at all times. I began
noticing strange calls and those discreet social media notifications that
vanished too quickly. My gut told me to investigate.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
My gut, my leaky gut.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I almost wish I had not. He has been secretly
hooking up with my older sister behind my back.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Whoa, whoa. Okay, okay, now, I mean that's not okay,
but all right. And he started doing that right after
you said that you would having a baby.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
She was the one I always tolerated, even though she
drags drama wherever she goes. She would hug me when
relatives were around, pretend to be the support of older sibling,
then turn around and bad mouth me to her friends.
I never imagine she would crawl into my life this deeply.
It felt like a slap in the face to read
their messages calling me clueless for not noticing you told
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her about the pregnancy before. He was honest with me
about his doubts, and they joked about how stressed I
would be raising another child. What do you think you're doing, Bud?
Do you think you're just gonna get off easy?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I think he I think that's exactly what he thinks.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I'm gonna take you for child support for everything you're worth.
My sister bragged that our entire family thinks she's the
more interesting and popular sibling. Meanwhile, I'm just the quiet
one who apparently deserves this. I do not know if
they're still meeting in secret or if they just get
a punt out of hurting me. My fiance denies everything
whenever I confront him, says I'm hormonal and that my
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imagination is running wild. My sister keeps messaging me, telling
me I should keep my mouth shut and stop being dramatic.
I am done. Hyd Notice how.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
She's not even denying. Yeah, She's like, you're just being dramatic.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, yeah, I took your partner.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah to that?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Wow, what's it to you? My mother wants me to
talk it out calmly, But how do I fix something?
Things so broken I can barely breathe. My fiance things.
I'll just accept this. He's counting on me being too
shy or too pregnant to do anything. Tomorrow, I plan
to blow this up in front of our entire family.
We are supposed to have a casual get together at
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our parents' house. Ironically, to celebrate my pregnancy announcement, I
will gather my phone, lugs, the screenshots, and all those
humiliating texts they scent each other. Once all the relatives
have settled in, I will put everything on display, no
more secrets. I might burn everything in the process, I
might lose any chance of a pleasant co parenting scenario,
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but I feel like I have no other way to
proclaim my dignity. I've been crying NonStop for days. My
nerves are shot, and all I get from my fiance
is either silent treatment or insults. My sister taunts me
and acts like I am worthless. I see no reason
to protect them anymore. I do not know what happens next.
Maybe they'll run off together, maybe they'll lie or twist
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things around to make me look insane. My fiance has
not contributed much financially, so I worry about affording my
daughter and this potential new baby on my own. Yet
I cannot pretend everything is normal. I have to protect
whatever self respect I have left. I'm going to set
my entire world on fire tomorrow. Part of me feels terrified,
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the other part is numb. Regardless, I'm done letting them
tiptoe around my heart. If they want my silence, they
should have kept their betrayal better hidden. Let everyone see
exactly who they are. That's all I have left.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
That's actually it's insane that they're like, yeah, no, keep
your mouth shut shut, and you're like, for you, babe,
you're hormonal. Okay. The only reason this matters to you
right now because yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Like they're actively cheating on you and then expect you
to just be fine with that.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
No.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
No, your sister too, is like just what the Yeah?
What crazy? But uh, definitely drop them and then Sueme
for child support.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah I think so.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
But we got an update update. I'm still reeling from
what happened. After writing my last post, I spent hours
debating with myself about whether I should really go through
with exposing them at our family gathering. A part of
me was scared I would turn my whole life upside
down forever, but I knew I couldn't keep letting them
walk all over me while pretending everything was fine. I
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called my mom beforean to let her know I was
breaking up with them and to prepare her. When I
arrived at my parents' house, everyone was already there, including
my ex fiance and my sister. My mother tried to
pull me aside, whispering that we should talk first. I
stayed calm, walked straight into the living room where everyone
was sitting, and asked them to listen. They looked confused.
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My sister immediately rolled her eyes, and my fiance mumbled something,
probably hoping I would stay silent. I started reading the
most shocking part.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
It's here, this fricking drama queen about to tell people
how we're just blatantly cheating on her, and that's crazy.
She's a fool. Who are these people? Where they build
these people? The cheater factory, the cheatercake factory.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Oh that's funny. I started reading the most shocking parts
of the messages I found Between the two of them,
they mocked me, joked about me not noticing anything, and
said I deserve this.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Who are these people?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I had time stands proving he was sneaking around with
my own sister while I was at home with my daughter.
My sister stood up and accused me of lying, her
voice defensive and low pitched, but I just kept reading. Oh,
he's doing a dramatic reading of this in front of everyone.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
She goes, you're lying, You're lying, lying.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
You are lying like Will in the season two of
Stranger Things, you lie like Papa, or that the messages
spoke for themselves. I revealed how he told her about
my pregnancy before even discussing it with me, and now
they laughed about me being stressed raising another child. I
fiance tried to dismiss me, claiming I overreacting and misinterpreting
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the situation because of my emotional pregnant state. He even
blamed my mental health. But then he stormed out of
the room. My sister started crying, My dad stared at
the floor silent, while my mother looked horrified. Finally, my
sister snapped and stormed out, yelling that I was a
dramatic liar who blow everything out of proportion. Now the
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fallout begins. My fiance, or rather my ex fiance, has
been texting me non stop. One moment he says he's sorry,
the next he blames me for humiliating him. He shows
zero genuine remorse, He's just mad that I exposed him.
My sister calls me horrendous name, says I ruined our image,
and refuses to take responsibility If the image is in
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four K. There's not much that'll peek, can dow.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
It's just like just own it. At this point, yeah,
been caught.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
He can't look into a mirror and say I don't
like what I see. He's just you.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Well, I mean, you can do that, but you can't
do that and then go and it's you awful someone else.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
It's true. Honestly, I do not even know if they
are still seeing each other or blaming each other for
being caught. Either way, their secret is out, and that's
all I wanted. I'm now talking to a lawyer because
this man barely contributed financially before. I have to protect
my daughter and ensure I never have a child with him.
Only the thought of raising two kids alone is terrifying.
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But that's the end of that story, folks, No, it's not.
There's more. I lied to you. There's a little bit.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
More to the like papa, But do you.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Have any final thoughts before we get into the last part.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Of the story. I hope every other member of your
family supports you through this. I hope so I'm not
and it feels bad.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I'm not, you know, counting on that though. If they
were already like, don't bring up drama.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, don't bring up the drama of your sister cheating
on your cheating with your husband.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, what my cat's name is? Karen says they won't
stay together. It was only fun when they were cheating
on Ope.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, of course, but.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
There's a little bit left to the story. I feel
numb and heartbroken at times, but I also feel a
strange sense of relief. At least everyone knows the truth now.
I exposed everything that day in the living room, But
at least I'm no longer being trampled on in silence.
My sister and ex fiance can no longer laugh behind
my back. Yes, things will probably get messy. They might
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lie to other relatives, people we mutually know, or twist
the story. How are they going to twist the story though? Like, truly,
how would they twist it so much that people listening
to that story aren't just like, Wow, that's a blatant
lie because you were dating Opie and OPI as a
kid with you.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I mean, they could just be like, oh, it's all
fake texts, just faked a bunch of texts.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, oh, just saying like we didn't cheat at all.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Imagine they just try to be like, well, we did
do that, but like she shouldn't care.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
She shouldn't care.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yes, things will probably get messy. They might lie to
other relatives, people we mutually know, or twist the story.
But I'm glad I refuse to keep quiet. All I
can do now is focus on the positive, talk to
my lawyer, and move forward. It will be painful, but
I'll do everything my power to build a new future
on my own terms are away from these people, and
that's the end of the story.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Good. I think that is the right path to take,
moving forward, rid of them. I believe that is correct.
Good job, Op, agreed, and I'm sorry that sucks.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, good buck on raising kids. I hope that you
find a new support system that actually is there for you.
But that's the end of that story, and we've got
another one coming.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
We do.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
My father had a very obvious affair with mine nanny,
at least do it in secret. So basically this mainly
took place between the ages of like fourth to eighth
grade for me, but it's still going on in a way.
I twenty female, had a nanny growing up twenty one
female when this happened. She's around thirty five. Now, let's
call her jets Jackson Dexter, let's call her gex Yikes.
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She was the big sister I've never had. We were
best friends and she was a huge that's role model
for me. I looked up to her so much. She
was gorgeous, young, and we had so much fun during
the year she watched my brother and I. And by
the way, this comes from user sitter banger And if
you want to submit your own stories, go to the
our Slashowcase story time suburd it. I'm Dakota, I'm.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Sophia, I'm Keon.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Well, Louis are here to give you good advice, googly,
but we don't have all the answers. We only know
what we would do, So if you would do something different,
let us know in the comments. As Op says, my parents,
especially my mom, are extremely fun and generous people. After
a while of her babysitting us, she grew deep friendships
with my parents and their friends, who were in their
forties at the time. She was so close with my
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family to the point where my parents and company would
take her to super expensive events every weekend, nice dinners,
family vacations, bars, et cetera. She was truly a member
of the family, and she was about to get on
one of your families members. Oh bob boo, bout boo.
In fact, she got so close with my parents. My mother,
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who works in a very respected profession and position, gave
Jex her car and helped and encouraged her get into
a four year university when I was around six or
seven at the time.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Oh no, oh, no, I don't really know.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I was in a spy phase and would spy on
people for fun.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I you know what, I understand that, not not the
spying part, but I always my friends and I would
we would play spy.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
So you didn't understand that.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
But no, I didn't didn't actually spy on people.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
I don't believe you. That's not That's what a spy
would say.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
No, we were.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Covered yourself. You were like, I actually get that, but
not fully. But I was never a spy.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Were you a totally spy?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Oh that was a good show.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I started noticing Jecks and my father acting very strange,
sneaking off, and eventually started catching them making out in
various places of my house. I knew it was wrong,
but I was too scared to say anything. To my mom,
so I kept the secret to myself because I didn't
want to ruin my family.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Also super concerning that the dad is like cook, I
don't know. I'm a little concerned for Jex. Honestly, she's
like this twenty one year old girl who has been
you know, obviously she has a part to play in
it because she's having this affair, but definitely the fact
that he has a position of power and is also
much older than her a little ichy.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
One time I went through her phone I know her password,
and found explicit text and photos sent between Jex and
my father. For some reason, it didn't disturb me at
the time like it does now. They eventually started becoming
sloppy with their affair, which they've always been sloppy with
their affair because they couldn't hide it from an eight
year old.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, come on, that's never been a good, well hidden affair.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
They began getting sloppy with their affair, and I believe
my mom started catching on, but didn't say anything. At
this point, it was multiple years into the affair and
I had witnessed a plethora of things, and the guilt
of not saying anything grew bigger and bigger on my chest.
One time, on my mom's business trip to California. We're
from New York. They brought Jex, and my mom came
back to the hotel to Jex and my dad cuddling.
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My brother and I were in the living room of
the hotel room. That night. My mom made my dad
sleep on the floor with her and us kids. I
remember her whispering to him in the middle of the
night that she wanted a divorce when she thought we
were sleeping. That was the first night I cried about
the whole ordeal, and the fness of the whole situation
kicked in. So my mom never got a divorce, although
I believe that is when their marriage started to dissolve
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and become more of a business transaction. My mom grew
up in an extremely unstable household and didn't want to
give us kids the trauma she had to deal with,
which I think was a mistake, but I know she
wanted the best for us. I believe crap started hitting
the fan when my dad invited Jax to come with
us to a very prestigious business trip conference that my
mom had to attend. This is when it gets bad.
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My mom was out at a company dinner. So it
was me, my brother Jax, and my father in the
hotel room think two queen beds. My brother fell asleep
next to me, and I guess they thought I was
asleep too, because they started doing the deed.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Disgusting, literally disgusted the kids. Arrest them, genuinely arrested if
I found out that two adults were or if my
part like, let's say I have a child and my partner.
I mean, the levels of this is insane. Not only
are they doing this in the same room, but they're cheating.
I just just disgusting, literally disgusting. This reminds me of
(15:16):
that Walking Dead scene you wan't talking about when uh,
what's his face and.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
His wife Laurie? Is it laur And it's.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
The main guy, the Rick Rick and his wife Lri Yeah,
and they're like in the same tent as their son
and they're like, he won't wake up. It's fine, crazy
and Coral's just disgusting, disgusting, your freaks and I hate you.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
There's a freak back there.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Thank God my brother was asleep and didn't have to
witness it. I also remember I have never had to
peace so bad in my life, but I couldn't get up.
I just had to shut my eyes to pretend it
was going to be over.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
That is traumatic, Yeah, literally trauma.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
That is traumatic trauma.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
It felt like ours. I ended up peeling the bed
because I couldn't hold it anymore.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Even more traumatic.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Ay, then I heard banging on the door. They didn't
get up and answer it. It was my mom who
forgot her key and couldn't get back in. No, they continued.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
What these people were monsters?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
My mom called the phone in the hotel room over
and over and over again, coming back and knocking, but
they wouldn't get up. I remember feeling so relieved my
mom was coming back. She's my best friend in the world. Eventually,
my mom got an employee to give her a new
key and open the door, and Jack's and my father
jumped up and tried to compose themselves. I remember she
was in a bra and got under the covers and
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pretended to be watching a movie. My mom, you could
just tell, was done. She was livid. She didn't react
because she would never make a scene in front of
her kids, but she looked like she was going to
unalive someone. I had to explain that. I went to
bed in my sleep. It ruined my views on marriage.
I never told anyone this until I was fourteen. By now,
my mom had fired the babysitter.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I am shocked that she didn't fire her before. Yeah,
she knew that they were like cuddling. She probably knew
that there was something going on. If you knew something
was going on, she should have fought. Like I know,
she didn't want to create problems for the kids, but
honestly like this and moved to not fire.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
This was creating more problems. Yeah, for the kids and
for just everyone else.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, like ale move not great on either of these.
I mean, obviously her dad is like a monster, but
you know, not great moves on the mom's part.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
By now, my mom had fired the babysitter. My dad
and my mother's relationship had ended. But it was this
weird unspoken thing that we could never bring up in
front of my dad. He has a drinking problem and
anger issues. And at this point my relationship with my
dad was really bad and we had gotten into several fights,
including me getting booted out. Mind you, these all happened
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when my mom was out of town. She had many
long business trips. I started resenting my dad. No way started.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
You just started. Dang man, you did. I wonder why.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
My mom at this point freely talked about it with
my brother and I and the catches. My dad and
Jack's were obviously still together. He would leave every and
still does Thursday through Sunday. I knew because I would
have friends tell me they saw them at restaurants and
hotels right by where we live, which I don't understand
how ignorant you have to be. This was humiliating for me.
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She would post on social media places. I just knew
who they were together. Funny thing. There's been a couple
occasions my dad has gotten really wasted and made me
text her Happy Birthday, Merry Christmas, et cetera. And we
have a little bit more story left. This is really terrible.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Your dad's a nightmare monster from the Black Lagoon.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
Nightmare, nightmare, nightmare.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Truly, if anyone was from the Black Lagoon and happened
to be a creature hailing from said place, it would
be a father.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Not to bring it back to that one really traumatic point,
but the fact that one you were in the room,
two someone was your mom.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Was banging on bing on the door, saying.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Let me in.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Problem they didn't get up until.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Not even a single budget and then use a oh
you got so many what dude?
Speaker 5 (19:01):
That like?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I mean, I think the layers of this is kind
of complicated because it's obviously dad that's the worst one here.
Jack's is pretty bad too, but also just kind of
looking again at she's twenty one, he's probably you know,
at least mid thirties. Yeah, and also her boss, so
just really bad there too. This person I feel like
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has been you know, manipulated, and she's you know, obviously
still in the wrong, but just the layers of that,
and then your mom is just not protecting you because
she thinks, in her mind, oh, if I just don't
say anything, it's better for the kids.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Why not Maybe well, it was probably not to protect
the mom in any way, but the mom maybe didn't
maybe assume the kids didn't know.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I think so. I think she assumed that they didn't
know and that it was bad for her just to
not say anything. And my point is that's never good
for the kids. I think there's just this like idea
that it's always better for the kids if you just
keep your mouth shut and try and keep everything.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Yeah, especially when the kids will see a huge different
dynamic between mom and dad.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Yeah, mom and dad, it's no longer talking. Yeah, kids
notic things, but kids won't, especially something like this.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, kids are smart, but.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Kids sometimes don't want to get in trouble, like I
guarantee you. OPI is like, I know what's happening. I'm
not going to say.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Things so traumatized. I'm going to tell you internalize that later.
And you're like, well, why didn't I say anything? It's
my fault.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I just hope OPI doesn't
blame themselves.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Seven years olds keep better.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
You didn't know any better, but you knew, you knew
it was wrong, but you didn't know how to handle
that situation. Nobody knows handle that situation your child.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, damn, that's so.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
And then you had to pee the bed.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
So traumatized.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Oh so traumatizing.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Well, let's finish the story. I finally told my mom
when I was fourteen about how I knew for years
and what I witnessed, and it seemed like her heart shattered.
She felt like she failed protecting me and like she
should have known. They are still together to this day
and my mom is finally getting a divorce. Her and
my dad are just trying to work out the finances
in the house, et cetera. I don't even know why
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I'm sharing this because it's honestly not that bad compared
to other trauma children have gone through.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
What about literal baby?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
That is really rough though.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, your father who is again your father, and then
your babysitter who you looked up to, just completely blew
up your life. That's pretty traumatizing.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah. I'm blessed to live such a privileged life, and
it kind of seems silly complaining about something so irrelevant.
But I don't think I've fully processed it, and I
don't think you have either. Given know what you just said.
Maybe I should see a therapist. I don't know, but
it feels really embarrassing to have to tell someone face
to face you should see a therapist. That is the
end of that story. You definitely need to fully work
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through that because there are a lot of moving parts,
and uh, yeah, that's highly traumatic, I would assume. Yeah, yeah,
but you can get there. You're gonna be okay, You're
gonna be okay.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, Oh man, Yeah, this dad is just a horrible person,
just such a bad person. Also, I just want to
I'm not trying to negate that the babysitter has done
like blown up a family unit, and you know did
was a willing participate, but it is like an element
that the dad is a much older boss. It's kind
of the same thing with like the the whole me
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too movement of having women consenting to a relationship, but
obviously there was a really really ichy power dynamic there
which you know was not okay. So it's like, I
still think it's an element that makes the dad even worse.
It's like, yeah, she's still is helping, but he's.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Well it sounds like there what I mean, they have
a lot of money and resources and yeah, you know,
she's been on a lot of trips and had this,
so it's like, of course she's going to be attracted
to that to some extent, but she's still a.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Twenty one year old in this.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I just think that makes the dad twenty one year
olds can go to war and all that. I think
I think twenty one is old enough to I agree,
you're you're making an informed decision on like am I
going to sleep with this man who's older than me
or not.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
No, no, no, I agree.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I attracted to this guy or not.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
But I would still say a twenty one year old
if I like, if I'm looking at a twenty one
year old getting with thirty six year old thirty six
or like.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
You know, I'm assuming the thirty six year old should
be like, I'm not exactly really why would I do this?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
That's my point.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Other than just being like, yeah, I'm using this person.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I think there is an element of he is using
her and it makes him even worse. Not that it
doesn't make her bad. That's my point.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Did hope he say there's still together?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I just can't imagine being like in your forties, like yeah,
until it's just.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Like exactly, that's my point.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Maybe I understand when I'm in my forties, but I
can't understand now because it's like.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, no, I think it just makes him like look
just just he's like a monster at that point because
of all the layers are there.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah. Yeah, but that's the end of that story. Yeah,
And we have another one.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Where my wife had an affair with my cousin. Trigger
warning emotional abuse, trigger warning for mentions of self harm.
I have a cousin who was also my closest friend.
As my closest friend, he was often at my house
when I lived with my parents, and he continued to
visit me frequently after I got married. I have been
married for three years. By the way, this comes from
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Plastic Year twenty three oh six. And if you have
smit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay
storytime subured it. I'm Sophia, I'm Dakota, I'm Keon, and
we're here to give good advice. Goofy, but we don't
have all the answers. We only know what we'd do,
So let us know what you would do in the comments.
During these visits, my wife, who is normally shy and
reserved around my friends, began to hang out with us
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from time to time because he became very familiar with
his constant visits and she saw him as a cousin
of hers as well. It's also important to note that
my wife has some undiagnosed mental illnesses such as BPD,
seasonal depression, and unresolved abandonment issues from her childhood. Eventually,
my wife began to join my cousin and me when
we would hang out together outside of the home as well,
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and we regularly started hanging out altogether. I now know
that I was essentially setting myself up for failure by
helping them create a bond. After weeks of my wife
constantly crying and feeling depressed beyond anything I'd ever seen,
she confessed to me that the reason she had been
feeling this way was because of an overwhelming guilt about
having developed an emotional attachment to.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Another man, not another man.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
At this point, she was completely distraught and could barely
get her words out, so I simply comforted her while
trying to hold in my shock and anger at what
I had just heard. She eventually confessed that it had
been going on for some time, twelve months since her
first feelings that she's suppressed, nine months since they started
talking on and off, three to four months since they
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started talking every day, and two months since they confessed
that they had these feelings. My cousin eventually ended things
officially around four weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Eh, yeah, but it doesn't really end.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I spoke to my cousin and he confessed without knowing
that my wife had already told me, and their stories
matched up. I need some advice. Is there any way
that this marriage is repairable, or should I just move on.
I definitely cannot trust her right now, and I'm not
sure if I ever will again. I've spoken to two shakes,
and they both advised me not to rush into my decisions.
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But one told me to wait two to three weeks
and one told me to wait four to six months
for what?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
What are we waiting for a sign?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
The one who told me to wait four to six
months later told me that I might have to end
things sooner if my wife's mental condition doesn't improve, because
the marriage seems unsustainable. My wife and I are both
twenty five, and I have no kids. She is self
harming at times and often says she doesn't want to
live anymore because of what she's done. She's filled with guilt.
But she also admitted to me that she's still grieving
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the loss of the friendship she had with my cousin.
What which makes my blood boil? Is it cheek or shake?
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Thank you? So?
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Just chocolate vanilla the chic?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I just want to make sure I'm pronouncing that right.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I don't just say chic. However you say it in
your heart is the right way.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I don't think that's true.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
That is true. However you hear it in your heart
is the right way to say it.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I don't know about that, Yeah, missus Jaberd says, trying
your best therapy. Yeah, she needs therapy badly, and hope
he needs to leave this relationship no matter I think,
there's always that guilt of being like my partner is
going to hurt themselves or not be well if I
leave them, even though they've hurt me. Yeah, but yeah,
it's not.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
It's a shake shake, thank you.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
The Sheikh said this is normal, but to monitor if
she still feels this way in the next few months.
This has been the biggest betrayal imaginable, and it has
also made me dread upcoming family gatherings where my cousin
will be and I'll be expected to bring my wife
because of course, no one in our family knows about this.
My wife is very clear that she only wants to
be with me, and she wants to make this marriage
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work more than anything I've known her my entire adult life,
and even though our marriage is not perfect, we've been
pretty compatible so far and I simply can't imagine life
without her, even though she's hurt me in the most
unimaginable way, and there is an update. I mean, I
understand that she's got like a mental health you know,
disorder here, but that doesn't excuse the fact that she
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cheated on you. Yeah, maybe she can find help to
you know, improve in future relationships. But I think I
don't know if you can get back that trust. And
also it very much doesn't excuse your cousin because he
has no reason for doing any of this other than
he just cheated with your wife.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
So yeah, truly nothing to be really yeah salvaged. I think, Yeah,
I think that you can. Yeah, I not want her,
You cannot want her to be you want the best
for her of distress. But yeah, like I don't know, doesn't.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Mean you have to be with her. Two months later,
I'm trying to stay distracted by playing football, going to
the gym, and spending time with the mosque. The relationship
is volatile. Some days she is loving and some days
she's arguing with me. Well, also, we know she's BBB,
so we see a marriage counselor we got Nika religious marriage.
And when I was twenty one and moved in together.
When I was twenty two, my wife still holds resentment
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and says it openly. The reasons she cited were that
I played football three to four days a week for
a few hours, and she said this abandonment was a
contributing factor that subsequently led to her affair. While I
have tried to cut off contact with my cousin, it
is difficult given the family circles.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
There's no way she just blamed you like having a
hobby as the reason why she was justified and cheating
on you with your cousin.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, well she's trying to get any reasoning that isn't
I cheated on you because I cheated on you.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yeah, got to own it.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, you have to own it, especially because she is
not willing to own it completely. There is no path
to redemption here. But yeah, it's tough. There is another
update though, three months later. This week, my wife and
I divorced after being married for three and a half years.
It was very sad, so got extremely emotional and I
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also shed some tears, but I believe it had to
be done as I couldn't look past the affair. My
wife is in the process of moving back into the
home we shared, and I'm going to live with my
parents for the remainder of her ida. A three month
period of separation after divorce or loss intended to restore
one's emotional and mental health and remove any confusion in
case of pregnancy. She came to the house today and
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in the evening she asked me if we could talk
because she was not happy that I was in a
bad mood towards her.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
She's like, hey, thought that with me, she'd have thought
about that before you slept with my cousin. Maybe my
mood would be improved.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Maybe she knows. The reason was because I'm having aunties
call me and even coming over to try to get
me to give my wife a second chance. No, and
I find this very triggering because they don't know what
I've gone through. I've hidden from them the fact that
she had an affair to protect her dignity and reputation
and to not reveal that the affair partner is their
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nephew and my cousin. Honestly, if you don't want to
reveal that, maybe go to her and say, hey, you
need to get them off my back, or I'm going
to tell them why.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
One hundred percent. Yeah, No, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Put it to her. They shouldn't be bothering you.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
If everyone's give her a good chance, you're the people
start If your family members starts saying you're the bad guy,
oh boy.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, I'd be like, hey, you need to get them
off my back, or I'm telling.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
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Speaker 2 (31:17):
They all see her as a kind girl who's very sweet,
which she is at times, but they don't know what
I've gone through with the affair and with all the
verbal abuse and temper issues throughout the marriage. I always
shielded my family from seeing this side of her. She's
also really good at being the best version of herself
around others, particularly family. There are a lot of good
things about her personality and character that I would look
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for in another wife, so that should be made clear.
I told her that I didn't want to talk about
things right now, but she insisted and kept talking about
it anyway, saying that we wouldn't have any other time
to talk. She began asking why I've forgotten all the
good things she did because you cheated on him, Because
you're cheater. Kind of outweighs all the puppies you saved,
and this actually saved puppies.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
We have to factor puppy.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Saving factor in the puppy saving and the sacrifices she
made in our marriage. What sacrifices you sacrificed the marriage,
That's what you sacrificed. And that I'm just labeling her
for one thing she did.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Oh my gosh, it's so crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
You're literally labeling me for the worst thing I did.
What about all the other good things I did?
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Honey? I did like, I took up the.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Trash, I did the chores, I slept with your cousin.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Why can't you just why can't you just cast the
worst thing I did?
Speaker 5 (32:27):
She would have banded over it.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
It's a little booboo shadow of I think it was
borderline personality sort I think that was, Uh can you
look at s at the beginning of the story. Yeah,
I'm pretty sure it was borderline.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I insisted it wasn't just one thing, and I said
that I haven't forgotten about all the good because if
I had, I wouldn't be treating her with kindness. I'd
be cold to her like I am to my cousin.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
It is borderline personality and seasonal depression.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I was then alerted to news that one of my
ex colleagues and a friend was being rushed to the
hospital after serious car accident, and she became even more
upset that I was diverting my focus from our conversation,
saying that this was symptomatic of our problems in the marriage,
where she always had to fight for my attention and
that's what caused this problem between us. She's literally blaming you.
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She's blaming you for cheating on you.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
It's all your fault. It's all your fault. If you
had given me more attention, Lady wouldn't have cheated.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
She's stinky.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I'm sure that that is all that was really missing.
If you wouldn't have played football for two hours during
the week each day, I think.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I probably wouldn't have had time to cheat on you.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Fine.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
She also said that for the record, after some time,
she would have forgiven me for cheating if I had
done what she had. What is.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Easy to say that, seeing guys, I haven't cheated on you,
so you can say that all.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
She's like, well, if you had done it, I wouldn't
have been upset.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
She's trying every manipulation tactic in the book rely and
it's just not.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
She's a very sensitive person and can't even handle the
perceived threat of being abandoned. So if she found out
that I had an emotional relationship with another woman, let
alone a relative of hers, she would have lost her mind.
She even fell down to her knees crying. Why I
thought in my head, I'm pretty sure that's my line.
So the reason why I'm asking all this is do
I owe it to her to have these final discussions
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about where things went wrong in our marriage so she
can get some closure, or do we just stop talking
about the issue entirely and move on separately. I'm trying
to do everything by the book gron and Sunna and
not take away any of her writes from her regardless
of how the marriage ended. I want both of us
to be able to heal from this marriage ending. I've
always tried to carry myself with respect and honor, even
in the face of this most heinous betrayal. And there
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is a third update.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
Op, you're being too night she dis I was gonna say, Op,
you're being a wa way too good of a person,
And that's good, You're being an honorable person. But you
don't owe her these things, you know, anything, especially the
way she's trying to manipulate and be tactical about it.
It's gross behavior. The fact that she can't own up
to it and she's like, you don't have to be like, oh,
where did our marriage go wrong?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah, she cheated. Cheated, That's where it went wrong. She
cheated on you for.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Months with your cousin.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
You guys have been together for three years total, and
she's cheated on you for a year of that.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
It's one third baby, Yeah, Like, there is no excuse.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
And I hate when cheaters try to excuse their relationship
of their affairs by saying, oh, well, it was your
fault because there were problems in the relationship that I
never told you about.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Her fault and your fault.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
Supposedly from her reasoning was you have a hobby.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
You you play football, so.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
I have to play with balls.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
It's only fair. Update one year later, I reflect and
believe that ironically being cheated on was the key to
some of the biggest bussings in my life. Glass half
full kind of guy. I have met some incredible people,
travel too many countries, begun seeking Islamic knowledge, and developed
incredible friendships with brothers. Some of my family members have
figured it out or had suspicions and have gone cold
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with the cousin. Good and there is another update two
years later.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
It's also shows it shows that Opie is not trying
to be dramatic.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Ye, not trying to have drama.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
Honestly, I would bring it up to her and like,
you should be so lucky that I'm not telling anybody
about this, and you're still bringing it up, and you're
still trying to not be accountable.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Just stop it.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah, Yeah, it's just it's exhausting.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
At this point, I'm trying to search up out a prince.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
It's been exhausting the whole time. Really, one second.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
I want to start by saying, Aham duli la, thank
God for everything, whether things go in a way that
we think is good or not. Two years ago, my
ex wife had an emotional affair with my cousin, and
that was a time that felt like I was in
a black hole with no sight of the top. Two
years later, I've experienced highs in my Dean walk of faith,
business and now personal life that seemed unimaginable at the time.
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But there is a little bit left to this story.
Any final thoughts.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I hope your next wife super hot, yeah, super cool, yeah,
super hot, super cool, and.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
She enjoys your hobbies and maybe you guys can do
hobbies together.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Maybe she plays football too, and she only cheats on
you with you like in.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Pinac Lada song. Anyway, I found out about my ex
wife's affair a week before Ramadan in twenty twenty three.
Then in the final week of Ramadan in twenty twenty five,
I met the kindest, most patient, most beautiful woman I've
met my life. She too had been married before, and
in her first marriage she endured her own tough trials
that shaped the person she is today, a woman of
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immense strength that she does not claim or boast about. Finally, enough,
we met on this very separate in marriage ISO where
she saw my profile and reached out, and that simple
message led to what we have today. Alamdu la la.
We are now married and enjoying our honeymoon, and I
wouldn't change anything that brought us to where we are today.
And that's the end of that story, folks.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
I just want to know if the cousin and the
ex wife are now together.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Oh Lord, prop maybe I don't know. I don't think
that would last though, especially.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
A lot of time at all, not at all. Malort, malort?
Do you want malort malort.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
That's the end of that story. And we got another
one coming up, folks.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
We do.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
I caught my girlfriend cheating and it ruined her life.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
How that happened?
Speaker 4 (38:13):
And this is directly from the r slash okay story
time subreddit. This is one of our own here. This
happened over fifteen years ago. We were both thirty eight now.
She was an old high school crush. We reconnected in
our early twenties despite running in different circles. I was
into festivals, she was into clubs. We dated for about
a year and I got really close with her little brother.
By the way, this comes from BJH six h two
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And if you want to submit your own stories, go
to the r slash okay storytime subreddits. And I'm Angie,
I'm Sophia, I'm Carly, and we're here to give good
advice goofully. But we don't have all the answers. We
just know what we would do in the situation. But
let us know what you would do in the comments.
So Opie says, one night, I went to meet her
at a club where she was already hanging out with friends.
I linked up with her brother and we headed in,
only to see her sitting on her coworker's lap, chatting
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casually with everyone like it was nothing. Her brother looked shocked.
We walked up and she went pale, and I just
casually asked how everyone was doing, pretending I didn't notice.
She brushed it off as normal. I think she had
been flirting with this coworker let's call him Dean, because
he's a total wiener at work. But I don't know
how Dean goes into that, like just another D word.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
The only thing, yeah, the only thing I can think
of is like Gilmour girls, because Dean, Okay, okay, I
don't know your shirt right now is making quite.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
A good Yeah, yeah, that's that's probably why. Yeah, but
that night was the first time that she actually crossed
the line and did something physical. When I left the club,
I casually walked out like nothing was wrong, but deep
down I knew it was over right then and there.
I told him that I was heading to a house
party elsewhere, and her brother came with me, apologizing for
her the whole way. The party turned out to be
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at this girl's place, who is female thirty five now,
she was eighteen back then, someone I had flirted with
and run into at festivals over the past year or so.
We hit it off while her brother hung out and
had fun. About an hour later, my girlfriend showed up
out of nowhere. I still don't know how she tracked
us down. She apologized, acted normal, and tried to get
me to go back to my place with her.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I declined.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
She even asked to crash in the host's bed to
lure me in, but I said no. I told her
brother to drive her home and let him know that
I was done. I didn't trust her anymore, and we
were over on her way out, I stayed polite while
he told her that she had messed up big time.
That night, I hooked up with the host Okay, in
her bedroom. Wow, the exact same one that my girlfriend
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had been trying to drag me in two just minutes earlier.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Wait, with the.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Door open and people all around the house while the
party raged on, I'm.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Sorry, what just happened?
Speaker 4 (40:45):
What?
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Oh my gosh, can you like cash me?
Speaker 6 (40:48):
Like?
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:49):
I literally am so confused, so much just happened.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
So, okay, they're at a girl's birthday party. This is
after he saw her at the club with her on
boss's lap. Okay, so right now, all.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
He knows is that she sat on someone's lap.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
I guess so. But he still was like, that's over,
and so she, I think, was like apologizing and then
trying to seduce him into the party girl's bedroom to hook.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Up at this party.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
And then he was like, no, brother, take her home.
I'm done, and then he went back to the party,
hooked up with party with the birthday girl in that
bedroom doors open party, going on, oh, pe crazy that.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
You're one of our own. Yeah, not a great move.
Pretty bad move if you're still calling her your girlfriend
at the time.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Yeah, we're done, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
He's still called he didn't say my ex girlfriend. Yeah,
y'all aren't actually done. It's I mean, also, just it's
not even okay. If you are done and you have
broken up, do not a classy.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Move you Oh for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
I I gotta give it to you straight op.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
Yeah, that's just I'm just like, there's a lot of
layers there, but the one that I'm stuck on is
that you left the door and hooked up with the
door open. Yeah, people all around. Yeah, that's wild, that's
so wild.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Speed Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
But even her brother came back after dropping her off
and joined in the vibe. What I'm guessing vibe cannot
what yikes. I didn't talk to my ex for about
five years. After that, I started dating the host and
that lasted about nine months. She ended up with Dean
a few months later. From when I heard Dean was
(42:38):
a heavy drinker who treated her like garbage.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Yikes.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
He basically moved himself into her house and had this
gross habit of geeing in the corner of her bedroom
when he was two wasted to make it to the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Why do you know this? How do you know this?
That would anyone ever share this import I mean.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
That's like the kind of rumor that would I think
go around. But yes, like, can you believe this happened?
Speaker 2 (42:59):
But she who is she telling? Unless you're breaking out
with the guy, I would never tell anyone. Yeah, I
would keep that to myself unless I broke up, and
then I'd be like, oh my god, you will not believe.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
This crazy thing.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
Dude, that's wild.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
So okay, So she seems like she cheated, he breaks
up with her, yep, I guess that was a little
unclear to me. Yeah, and then he immediately hooks up
with someone else yep, dates her for nine months, and
then I guess she got with the boss man. Oh, pep.
It seems like you are reeling in this moment.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Yeah, yeah, hey's Sean here. We're gonna get back to
this episode. But a quick three minute break with Azer
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Speaker 4 (43:35):
They stay together long enough to have two kids.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
What this is a wild story.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
He barely lifted a finger for them and didn't provide
any financial support. She finally left him and had to
sell her house to get away. Now she's been a
great new partner who's stepped up as a dad to
her other two kids in every way, and they've had
two more together. Now, deean totally irresponsible man. He has
zero to do with her or the kids. And there
(44:00):
is a little bit more to this story. But Wowie Zouie.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
I don't even know what advice to give you. Yeah,
because it seems like it's been five years you've.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
Been more than that.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Yeah, I guess it seems like you didn't cheat on her,
because it seems like you did break up. That was
a little unclear to me. So you're in the clear there.
I would just say, like, in the future, if we
ever have messy breakups like this, you know, don't maybe
don't don't immediately hook up with someone else at a party.
It's just not healthy, you know, it's not a healthy
way to process. But like feels like you probably know
(44:30):
that now.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Yeah, all of the people in this story are just
like wacky Doodle, the wacky Doodle, Like, all the love
to you, especially since you're one of our own.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
That makes you special. It makes you special.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
But but and also I just a wild story. I hope.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
I hope five years pat later, I hope we are
in more like stable part of our life.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Yes, I hope.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
Oh yeah, no, there this was like yeah, years, years,
years ago.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah, so you probably yeah, you're probably doing way better now.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
Yeah, hopefully there's a little bit more to the story. Recently,
her brother told me that she only got with Dean
and stuck it out because I moved on the same night.
She wanted to quote prove that it was worth it
and show that she had it better than meat.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Well she sucks.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
Yeah, I do feel bad about how it ended. There
was no direct to communication for me, just ghosting through
her brother for years. There was no drama or fighting,
and if we run into each other now we chat
like old friends. But knowing she went through all that
heck with Dean partly because how I handled it, it
eats at me. Was my lack of closure of the spark.
I just needed to vent this and there is no
(45:33):
more to that story. But I don't know. I don't
think you have to feel guilty about it.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
No, I don't think you need to feel guilty about
anything that happened with your ex girlfriend because she cheated
on you. Yeah, However, I think it just like just
going forward knowing that that was not a healthy way
to handle that situation is going to benefit you.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Yeah, I think it's so. Yeah, I think your actions
just mostly affected you. I think, you know, because she
saw that and made those choices because of that is
that's all her choice. She did not have to react
that way.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
And also, I.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
Don't think that you have to feel bad about that
at all. It's more of just like we want you
to change for your own sakes exactly. But I'm sure
you have though, yeah, I mean five years yeah, yeah,
like yeah, that was that was that was that was that.
I do wonder because this was like this was this
happened over fifteen years ago, So I hope that.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Wait, it's happened fifteen years ago.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
Yeah, five, no, because it started out when OPI was
like twenty one. Oh and now Op's thirty eight, and
so there we got like five years in this story.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
But you've got to play it now. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Yeah, you've got to be gotta be good. If you've
got an update for that, let us know, because I'm
I hope that you're you're doing well. If it's still
eating at you, I'm sorry, I don't think it needs to.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
I agree. Yeah, I don't think. I don't think it.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Yeah, I think. I think when you're young, you often
handle things like this poorly. Yeah, it's just something to
learn from, Yeah, which I think you have, I'm sure.
But that's the end of that story.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Yes it is.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
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