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00:00 r/BestofRedditorUpdates - AITA for telling my wife to stop playing Roblox and do her duties as a parent?
10:11 r/charlottedobreyoutube - AITA for not RSVPing my husband to a family member's wedding?
22:28 r/relationships - My wife [40f] and I [40m] are having problems over one of her friends that she skis with.
32:28 r/charlottedobreyoutube - Aita for yelling at my mother, sister and father for a comment they made over my dress at a family wedding.
46:36 r/relationships - Parents changed their mind on attending my(f18) HS graduation after my church announced their own in two weeks, and they want me to attend that instead
58:23 r/charlottedobreyoutube - Family Drama For The Ages

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
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Speaker 3 (00:09):
My wife became neglectful after she became obsessed with roadblocks.

Speaker 4 (00:16):
You gotta respect the game. It's roadblocks. I don't know
what she was.

Speaker 5 (00:20):
Don't hate the play it game exactly.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
My wife thirty seven female, and I thirty six male,
have always tried to keep the housework pretty evenly split
between us. I, for example, mow the lawn and do
laundry and dishes, and she meal plans, cooks and picks
up slash drops off the kids. And by the way,
this comes from user middle leading eight four six nine
And if you want to submit your stories, go to
the r slash Okay Storytime subridit and submit them there. Lately,

(00:47):
this has all changed because she has become hopelessly obsessed
to a game called Dress to Impress on a Roadblox.
If you aren't familiar, it's a game where you have
to dress your character in a themed outfit before the
time time runs out, and then other players rate it
from one to five stars. It started off harmless, just
of little fun thing she would do during downtime before bed,

(01:08):
But recently she has missed rucial appointments and chores because
of this game. I tried to be understanding and gently
remind her to do her tasks, but she would always
say she forgot and got distracted. The big argument happened
last night when she forgot to pick up our nine
year old son from basketball practice, which ended at six pm.

(01:28):
I hadn't gotten home yet, as I had to work late,
and our son doesn't have a phone, so I had
no way of knowing the situation. I eventually got home
around seven and realized he was not in his room.
I looked around further and saw that he was nowhere
to be found. I walked into our bedroom, confused to
ask my wife where he was, and found her on
her iPad playing the game as always.

Speaker 6 (01:48):
When I asked her.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Where our son was, her eyes grew wide, and I
knew what happened without her having to say. I immediately
got back into my car and went to pick him up. Luckily,
his coach had stayed after to make sure he was
picked up safe, and I apologized profusely. Apparently he had
been calling and texting my wife, who was the emergency contact,
and she didn't even notice when we got home.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
I immediately blew up at her.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
How could she be so addicted to a kid's game
that she completely forgot our own son. Now she's telling
me it was a one time thing and that I'm
an a hole for getting angry.

Speaker 6 (02:19):
I don't know what to think.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
I do kind of understand her side of the story,
as it has only happened one time, but she has
to be a responsible parent. You can't just completely forget
about our child who has no way to get home
on his own.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
So am I the a hole?

Speaker 1 (02:32):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:35):
It's like it sure, it's only been one time, but
it's like it should be zero times that you forget
your kid exists when he's at basketball practice for an hour.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Like it can't.

Speaker 7 (02:45):
It's not the kind of thing where it's just like, oh, sorry,
my bad, Like my bad, I didn't pick up my
own son who is nine years old. Yeah, Like that's
not something that can just be like, hey, you gotta
do this, like and then she's like okay, sure, Like
this is like no, oh yeah, he's absolutely allowed to
be mad at that.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
And imagine how your kid feels your kid's like my
mom forgot about me. Right, there are some relevant comments here.
Let's go ahead and get into not the a hole.
This is not a chore that she's blowing off. It's
forgetting your own child. How could she not even notice
the calls and text from the coach. That's what I'm
wondering about. Is something else going on with her? OHP
says I'm not entirely sure how she missed all the
messages and phone calls. We haven't spoken much since the argument.

(03:23):
I haven't noticed anything different with her, but I could
be missing things. Tom Address, who says, OPI is her
iPad hooked up to her iPhone? Because if it is,
then your wife willfully ignored the messages and calls. Those
things are shown on any Apple device hooked to the
same accounts. Also, I would remove your wife from every
emergency contact or add yourself with a note requiring they
notify you both hope, he says. I think the other
replies are right. She has her iPad on silent still,

(03:45):
I feel like she would have seen the notifications anyway.
I texted the coach to add my number to the
emergency contact list, so hopefully nothing like this will happen again.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
Comment or three Is this real?

Speaker 3 (03:55):
She needs therapy if she's so into a silly kids
game with avatars that she's forgetting her own real child.
This is a scary and serious event for your child,
exactly and okay, maybe losing track of time, but missing
the calls and the texts too, that's insane, not the ahole.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
Hope your kid's okay.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
He probably felt so scared and abandon op says, thanks
for your concern. I'm planning on talking to her tomorrow morning,
because we'll have had a good day to cool off
and think about it. I talked to my son in
the car after the original event, and he seemed okay
from my perspective. Obviously a little afraid and confused, but
nothing that should impact him in the long run. I'll
continue to be checking up on him and making sure
though op Comment four, Op, it could be worth getting

(04:34):
one of those phones that can only dial certain numbers
for your son and change the emergency contact to yourself
and another trustworthy adult within acceptable distance from your area,
just till she proves herself and stays off the game.
Opie says, good idea. Might look into a flip phone
or something similar. I just don't want to give him
free rane on the internet so young, so this will
probably be a good solution. I'm under five. I'm not
the a hole, but I have questions. Does your wife work,

(04:54):
what time does she get home? How does your kid
get home when he doesn't have practice? How many kids
do you have? Jesus A lot of questions.

Speaker 6 (05:00):
Who normally makes dinner? And when do you all eat?

Speaker 3 (05:02):
I'm struggling to understand how this happened. Opie says she
works part time, usually gets home around two. You only
have one kid. He gets home on the school bus
when there's no practice. She in the past has been
the one in charge of cooking and food, but recently
I've started to do this because of the events in
the post. We're usually eating around six thirty and there
is an update. Hi everyone, thank you for all your

(05:22):
advice on my previous post. So I decided to have
a conversation with my wife the day after I made
the post about the time spent on video games. We
talked for a while and I tried to bring up
important things people talked about in the comments. I saw
a lot of people suggesting that I completely block and
delete rollblocks from her devices, and I brought that up.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
Obviously, she didn't take that well.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
I told her it's completely unacceptable what she has been
doing and there needs to be at least a time
limit set on her device. I can't control her, but
I made it clear it's a very important thing to
me and it would damage our relationship if she said no.
After I said this, she agreed to the time limits.
Another thing I saw a lot in the comments was
concerned for my wife's mental health. I appreciate people's insight
into this because it's something I don't really have a

(06:02):
lot of experience in. I asked her if she would
consider seeing a therapist, and she said she would think
about it. People were also concerned about how my son
is feeling after all this. I didn't realize that it
was something that may have an impact on him. I
had a conversation with him and made sure he understood
his mom and I love and care for him. Nothing
like this would ever happen again.

Speaker 6 (06:19):
But if you.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Want to listen to full episodes with stories like this
again and again and again, all you have to do
is go to Spotify or have a podcasts or wherever
you get your podcasts from and search.

Speaker 6 (06:31):
Okay, story time, just.

Speaker 7 (06:32):
If you're if you're listening, just remember to pick up
your kids. You could pause us for that, that's okay.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Yeah, you can. Also you could take us with you.
We're mobile, like you can just put us in your
ears and so right.

Speaker 6 (06:43):
Yeah, you don't have to dress to impress us you.
We take you as you are.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Oh yeah, and there is a little bit left in
the story here, but I think we've kind of already
hit everything.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
Let's go ahead and dive right in.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
I have also ordered him a cheap flip phone so
he wouldn't be completely stranded alone if these events did
end up repeating. If there's anything I should do or
could do differently regarding my son, please let me know,
because I don't exactly know how to navigate the situation
really quickly. On the cell phone bit, it's like I
remember I had one like that, like the flip phone.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
It wasn't a flip phone.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
It's like literally a phone designed like four kids, where
it's like, oh, you can only call numbers that are
saved in the phone book, and you can only receive
calls from those numbers.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
It was called a firefly. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
It was like it looked like a little like it
was like a little orange like oval phone.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, so cool here, Yeah, this is so cool, dude.

Speaker 7 (07:30):
I work with like like a lot of eight year old's,
nine year olds, ten year olds.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
iPhones, iPhones all over the place. It's wild. That is wild.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
I would not I completely understand I wanting to give
your kid an iPhone, but they get safety.

Speaker 7 (07:43):
I get safety, but like having a phone like that
is actually it like I don't know why I didn't
even think of that, but that's very smart.

Speaker 6 (07:48):
Yeah, very different.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
There are there are, and I there should if there
were phones like that before, there should still be phones
like that now.

Speaker 6 (07:54):
I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
I don't want to be too harsh on my wife.
We love each other and it's been made more clear
after our talk that should not be marriage ending or
cause any lasting damage. And I agree with that.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
Ridiculous. Yeah, to consider ending your marriage.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Over dress to impress is a wild It's just a conversation,
and it's like, why is.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
Our behavior the way it is right now?

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, do we see that we need to make changes?
If anyone has any further advice or thoughts. I'll be
happy to read it.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
We do have some comments from my experience, it can
be quite hard to quit and a behavior like this,
so she needs to be really committed and willing to
try and fail quite a few times before really getting
into a new groove personally. Can't just do something a
little bit or have timers. I just have to quit
it altogether before the compulsion or obsession disappears. The other
things to watch for is switching, so she drops the
roeblock but starts playing candy crush or drinking, et cetera.

(08:43):
If you're looking for some more information on it, Gabor
Matte is a good beginning, and his was classical music
rather than substance. Another resource you might like is Johann
Hari Dolan focus how big Tech deliberately designed software devices
to be dopamine driven and if you guys can stick
with it in persistent pushing through the other side, what
she might experience as a period of boredom, frustration, or

(09:03):
irritability and then gradually start to feel more normal and
enjoy life again. Hope you all do well, And there's
another comment here another point you don't have to be
harsh on your wife, but you should be firm. I
like the concept of responsible compassion. You love the person,
you sit with their feelings, but they're still held accountable
for their behavior and choices. When they fail, you were there,
but you expect them to try again, and you hold

(09:24):
reasonable boundaries. Commentary three says, Oh, Pee, it's really good
that you talked and that she seems to have heard you.
My question is that she work outside the home.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
She does.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
She has a part time job, and perhaps having a
job would help her not be so obsessed. Even a
part time job that gets her out of the house
or around people, maybe that would help a lot. Perhaps
being home alone so much made it too easy to
get too involved in gaming. As to your son, if
she hasn't grasped how serious that was, she really should
get some treatment, which she did could have caused long
term trauma to him, abandonment issues and feelings that his
mom doesn't want him around, not saying he.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
Feels this way, but he could.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
You did great by talking to him and reassuring him,
But did she That is the end of that story there.

Speaker 7 (09:56):
Listen, you give you anything, and phones and games are
a very highly at risk.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yes, that big old dopamine generators right there. Oh yeah,
but that is the end of that story. We are
going to get into the next one. My husband forgot
to RCP to his cousin's wedding. Now he's blaming me.
Hey you, my secretary, No, no, you might cousin.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Look in the mirror. My thirty three female husband's thirty
five male cousin is getting married. And we received our
invitations about three months ago. The invite was addressed to
our entire family, and when you go online to RCP,
it lists each of our names individually. You can check
off who you are rsvping for. By the way, this
comes from rsv pissed off on the r slash Okay

(10:40):
story Times sub reddit. As soon as I received the invite,
I went online to RSVP. There was a section four
advice to the couple and another four song request smart idea.
I checked all our names and filled everything out immediately. However,
my husband said he needed time to think about the
advice he wanted to give and the songs he wanted
to request. We can't just RSVP now. We got to

(11:03):
really think about these extra boxes, the optional boxes. We
got a fill in, right.

Speaker 6 (11:07):
Yeah, no, I don't want to answer wrong.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
All right, no big deal. I'll wait for him to
figure it out. But later that night I wanted to
ask if we could finish the RSVP together, but he
got frustrated and snapped at me, like, God, no, I
haven't had time to think about it.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
Please don't rush me.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
I need time. I need time.

Speaker 5 (11:23):
I have a lot of thoughts. I need time for
these thoughts.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
I decided to leave it alone because since he can
be dramatic sometimes and to pick your battles and one
not Three weeks have passed by and I started to
feel stressed because the RSVP the responsible deadline was approaching.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Rub Yeah John.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Every time I asked about him, he still wasn't ready,
saying that he hadn't had time to really sit down
and finger about it yet. Eventually I told him I
was going to RSVP for myself and the kids and
he could do his whenever he was ready. I hated
the feeling of nagging him about it, and I didn't
want to do it anymore. He agreed and said that
he would take care of it.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
Well yeah, he.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Meant it in like the New York Tony soprano way. Yeah, yeah,
he's just doing a gab the penguin.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Hey damn it.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, actually, yeah, kind of a little bit. Two weeks
went by and the deadline passed. I was at his
cousin's bridal shower when she said I'm so sorry that
your husband isn't coming to the wedding. I immediately realized
he had forgotten RSVP. No to respond play response. I
sighed and told her he probably just forgot. She looked
at me a bit strangely and confused as to why

(12:32):
I didnt RSVP for him along with the kids. I
explained the situation, but it felt like she didn't really
believe me. Yeah, trying to, because that would be crazy. Yeah,
and everyone thinks that she's, oh god, just.

Speaker 5 (12:47):
Lying about it.

Speaker 7 (12:48):
Well.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Later that night, my husband got a message from his
cousin the bride, asking if what I told her at
the bridal shower was true. He admitted that he had
forgotten to rs VP. She said that she hadn't realized
it was just in an oversight and assumed that he
genuinely couldn't come because of his job, which sometimes requires
him to travel on weekends when her wedding is She
then mentioned that since it had been over a week

(13:09):
since the deadline. They had already submitted the numbers to
the caterer and signed the contract.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Okay, but that's not a big deal. I that's honestly
not a big deal. No, you bring a lunch?

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Well, what about your seat?

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Are you bringing?

Speaker 6 (13:21):
You?

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Are you bringing a lawnchair?

Speaker 5 (13:22):
Bringing a lunch? I guarantee you that they can bring
one more chair.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
She also said she hadn't made the seating chart yet,
but couldn't guarantee they could adjust the dinner arrangements. At
this point, I told my husband not to make her
go through all that trouble because he forgot to RSTP.
He insisted that he wasn't going to miss his cousin's
wedding and asked why I just didn't RSVP for him
if I knew he was going to miss the deadline.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
Du No, ways, you know I'm missing competent.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Why did you let me do that? Why did you
let me?

Speaker 5 (13:50):
You put me in charge of mail?

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Oh boy? I told him I didn't realize he had
forgotten until his cousin mentioned it at the bridal shower,
and by then it was too late. He still thinks
I should have reminded him more, and then I'm purposely
being an a hole to prove my point. Bro, you said,
like you kept getting like, oh.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
Please stop reminding me, please.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
But now he's worried he'll look stupid if I go
to the wedding with our kids and without him. People
start asking why he couldn't make it. So am I
the a hole? We have an update? Can we really
quickly answer, is OP the a.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Hole or not?

Speaker 1 (14:22):
If she goes to the wedding.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Honestly, if you knew your husband was that dumb, yeah
you are. No, of course you're not. No, of course
you're not.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
He is the one that messed up. How does he
not understand that? Cassie O'Brien says, he's an adult, right
right exactly. But there is an update where the fallout
will be revealed. Maybe so update. I didn't realize this
would get so many comments, but I've been reading through
them all and want to answer a few common questions
for those saying I would have just RSVP'd and let

(14:48):
him fill it out later. I didn't realize you could
do that. When we got married ten years ago, we
didn't have a wedding website or anything like that we
had people RVP by three cards by mail. I figured
that once you submitted the RCP, that's it. You can't
go back that to it. I'm looking at the wedding
website now, and whilst it doesn't allow us to RCP anymore,
it does let us edit the information in it. But again,

(15:08):
I genuinely had no idea this was possible. If I
had remembered that he had an RSVP'd, I would have
done it myself. But I actually forgot because of the
next point, which is for those asking if he had ADHD,
yes he does, but so do I and both of
our kids. We met in an ADHD support group in college.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
So I think, uh, given that, I think I need
to clarify because I feel like it could be really
easy to interpret me saying rat brain as like a dismerchment.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
It's more just like, I consider rat I have rat brain.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
I'm a rat braindividual tuty ratituti. Yeah, no, but it's
just like it's rat brain is like you're just doing something,
then you're doing something else, and it's like and then
you'll go over and every memory you've ever had and
your whole life is gone.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Where's the cheese because you're busy getting cheesey cheese somewhere else,
give it to me.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
As soon as you lose sight of the cheese, it's
onto the next piece of cheese.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Well, the reason I was so anxious as the deadline
approach is because I know how easy it is to
forget things like RSVPs when you have ADHD any other rhymes.
I reminded him every time I remembered it was due,
but after we agreed he'd be responsible for his I
eventually stopped reminding him and then forgot about it completely.
For those asking why his cousin just can't add one
more person, she definitely can, but she made it clear

(16:29):
to him that it would involved several extra steps and
possibly an additional fee since the deposit is based on
a percentage of the total. It's more about her having
to deal with older people and people overseas not rcping,
than adding them last minute. She's trying to ensure her parents,
the groom's parents, and immediately family members are all factored
into the equation. When she checked the RSVP lists, my

(16:51):
husband's RSVP automatically showed up as no. On her end
because he missed the deadline. So it's like, hey, because
he didn't fill it out, the website just pas it
as no and didn't realize it was in oversight. For
those saying that I should have told the cousin exactly
what happened, I did exactly as it happened. She didn't
believe me. And for those also suggesting that I remind
him that I'm not his mom, I did and he agreed.

(17:13):
He told me he would handle it himself. For those
asking if he does this a lot or if he
has other redeeming qualities and this is just a one
off thing. He has ADHD and he is so forgetful,
but so am I. There are things he excels at
that I struggle with. For example, my ADHD sometimes causes
me to forget that I left things on or open.
It could be something simple like leaving the microwave or

(17:34):
a fridge door open, or something more dangerous like leaving
the stove on. This got worse for me after having kids.
There are definitely a few times when he picks up
my slack just as I pick up his. We both
understand that sometimes we can't help it and try not
to judge each other for it. He absolutely has it
redeeming qualities. So, for instance, he works from home during
the week, and this is on top of the kid's

(17:54):
school stuff and doctor's appointments. He's the primary parent for
those responsibilities. That takes such a low off because he's
so good at it and our kids are his everything.

Speaker 6 (18:04):
Wow, it's gotta be hard to do that with ADHD.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
When your your your work life, your private life, or
your work life or your personal life, and your family
life are all taking place in the exact same area.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
It's a lot.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
It's a lot. And I like the.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
I like her. You know they're giving it up and
and it's it's it seems like they do have a
true partnership. You know they're helping each other with their
strengths and weaknesses.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Well.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
When we got pregnant, we made a pack to use
all the attention we have, despite our attention deficit, every
last downs to put our kids first and ourselves last.
He's held up his end of that bargain. Unfortunately. I
love him with all my heart and he is a
good partner most of the time. Most of the time
I'm not babying him, and he's perfectly rational, but sometimes

(18:49):
he just has his moments. This is one of those moments.
And you can have one of those moments there, I say,
a good moment when you realize that you can listen
to full episodes with stories just like this on our podcast.
Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcast, or your favorite podcast
platform and search Okay storytime and it'll be right there,
full episodes for you.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
You know, I really like the way that you're talking
right now.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
I don't like the way that you're talking. But Dakota,
before we get into we have we have more of
the story. I feel like this is a case of
it is what it is. Yeah, seems like they have
a good partnership. It was an honest mistake, he has
ADHD Everyone we all have our faults. Yeah, we all
slip up sometimes. It just happened to be a slip
up with the wedding.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
What it sounds like he was just wound up in
that moment where it's like that she even thinking about
doing the RSVP right now is going.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
To make my brain explode. I can't do it.

Speaker 6 (19:37):
It's I could.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Just do it right now, Like I literally going to
curl up into a ball and stop existing if I
even try.

Speaker 6 (19:45):
To sign that rsup right now.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
It's trying no reason, trying to make the perfect playlist,
you know, it's yeah, trying to have the perfect advice
for a wedding. I mean, hey, that's tole Oder.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
And then the rat brain probably just took over and
he just forgot and.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Probably thought about it at one point where it was
entirely inconven and he is not anywhere nearby the place
where he could even do it.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
That's what when I forget stuff like that, That's how
it happens to me.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
It's like I'll be somewhere else and I'll be like, oh, yeah,
that thing I can do, that's like on the other
side of town right now, that I forgot to do
two days ago. Like I can't do it right now
because I'm not there, Like, but I should do it later.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Okay, let's finish this real quick. So for those saying
I should let him go in place with the kids
and take the day for myself, That's exactly what I'm
gonna do. For those suggesting I show him this post,
I did. But even before I did, he had already
apologized for snapping at me. He was frustrated and embarrassed
and unfortunately took it out on me. I've done the
same to him before we both mess up, but he
came to the conclusion on his own that he should
have taken care of it and not blamed me. He's

(20:39):
sorry and is making it up by buying me something
expensive this week. Can't wait, lil, And we have a
few quick comments. Comment number one, not the a hole.
Why do women have to bear the burden of remembering
to remind their partners? Can we tasked true facts on
top of everything else involved in managing a household? This
typically is defined as nagging quote unquote infuriating. Comment number two,
not the a hole. Your hus is an adult. He

(21:01):
made a decision for himself, despite the many reminders and nagging.
If he can't attend, it's his fault and should own
up to his mistake and not hold you accountable for it,
which he did at the end. Sorry, he's behaving like
a man child. I hope this is an isolated issue
and not that he pushes the issue at his convenience
and then blames you for his lack of self awareness.
Coming number three, Let the man maybe deal with his

(21:22):
consequences on his own way way, way you reminded him
multiple times, and he was sniffy about it. You're his wife,
not a secretary, not his event planner. Coming number four,
What are you supposed to have done? He told you
not to do it. This seems to be a situation
where you cannot win. Sorry, he's a booty about stuff
like this. I'm sure he has some good redeeming qualities,
but this must be quite the pain in the booty.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
Indeed, But look at that brilliant resolution though. Honestly it's like, yeah,
I don't know. He definitely was annoying, but I'm annoying too,
and he can just take it.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
I'll have the day to myself and he can go
to the wedding that he wants to go do way
more than me, and they'll take the kids.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
As long as And it seems like OPI wasn't like
like if OP felt more strongly or feelings were more hurt,
which you know, hey, we all got feelings too, that's okay.
But I really liked the place that we ended at.
Op acknowledged his stuff. He apologized and acknowledged his stuff,
and OPI said, hey, take my place in the wedding
so you can see your cousin and happily ever after.

Speaker 6 (22:24):
Yeah, I feel like it's a great little microcosm of like.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
I caught my wife's friends talking about her a fair
partner in a group chat, so I punted her out.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
Go Yeah, that's a field goal. Background. My wife is
an avid skier.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
She tries to ski every chance she gets, which is
often multiple times a week. I'm very supportive of this,
and it seems like a good way for her to
relieve stress and generally makes her happier. By the way,
this comes from skiing Wife Throwaway and if you want
to submit your own stories, go do it at the
r slash Okay storytime subrendant. She's made multiple close friendships
through this hobby, male and female, and some weekends they

(23:04):
take ski trips to resorts out of town. A ski sometimes,
but I'm not an enthusiast, and this group wants to
tackle a lot of challenging runs that I'm not capable
of at my current skill level. Also, in the off season,
they do other activities to maintain their fitness. None of
this has ever been a problem until recently. A few
months ago, my wife went trail running with a guy
forty five male named Josh, who was new to the group.

(23:25):
I didn't know she was going alone until after she
came back. I found that a little unusual since she
usually goes with a couple of her girlfriends and maybe
one other guy. Also, she had never really done this
activity before. The next thing that happened I thought was
unusual was when she had the VID and was isolating
from me.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
He wanted to.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Watch a movie on Amazon Prime, and I told her
to bring me her laptop so I could take care
of the two factor authentication stuff. When I was using
her laptop, she seemed cagy and agitated and was hovering
a little too close to me, considering we were supposed
to be isolating. At this time, I noticed she was
looking at a love horoscope for her sign and Josh
in one of her recently closed tabs. That didn't sit

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right with me, and I was stewing about it. My
wife noticed and asked why I was upset, so I
confronted her.

Speaker 6 (24:08):
He told me the.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Horoscope thing was just a curiosity and that she looks
it up for other people as well. I find this
hard to believe. She offered me her phone to look
through her messages, and I went through them. There were
a lot of messages for a chain text that started
only a couple of months ago, probably more than we
exchanged in the same period, mostly her sending him memes
and friendly back and forth. To me, it seemed excessive
and it looked like she was going out of her

(24:29):
way to keep a conversation going with Josh. It was
also a provocative exchange that she made that went something
like this, Josh, I would do bad things for some
lasagna wife.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
Oh like what, Josh, I don't know, like steal it wife.
That's not what I was thinking. That's what I get
when my mind is in the gutter. Josh an emoji.
I'm not sure what it is.

Speaker 6 (24:52):
Josh sent an emoji to me.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
This looks like an unsuccessful attempt by her to escalate
the conversation.

Speaker 6 (24:59):
But Josh, to his credit, that doesn't bite.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
When I saw this, I pointed it out, and she
took blame for it and said she shouldn't have sent that.
I'm shaking and very upset by all of this. My
wife claims he's just one of the girls, and she
isn't attracted to him because he's short and he's just
a good friend. All of this reminded me of an
emotional affair slash spacid texting situation that I went through
with my wife ten years ago. We've been married for

(25:23):
twenty We got through that, and I was hoping it
was behind us. In response to this, I set up
two boundaries. No more one on one events with Josh
and avoid the one on one texting. There's not usually
a reason to text one on one when the same
type of content can be shared in a group text.
The next week, she said two of her girlfriends canceled
on an event and she asked if it was okay
if she went alone with Josh. I told her, obviously not,

(25:44):
because that was a boundary I set, and she was
annoyed with me for saying no. She met with her therapist,
and her therapist largely agreed with my point of view.
She seemed to be less annoyed with me after that.
I have been often on depressed about all of this,
and during that she would ask me if there was
anything you could do.

Speaker 6 (26:00):
I just asked her to follow the boundaries I've set.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Cut to this last week, I asked her to check
in on the boundaries, I said. She admitted to texting
with Josh again, and I asked to see her phone.
There was a gap in the texting, but there were
six or seven consecutive days again with a lot of texting. Again,
it's just benign texting, but it just seems kind of unnecessary.
I don't think you need three days around Christmas to
text Merry Christmas and start a conversation. I don't think
you need to tell your single guy friend good night.

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In the evening, she says that she was just giving
him a resource for some technical safety here, and she
started doing it again. I'm very upset again, and I
tell her she was ignoring a clearly set boundary. I'm
not sure how we get past this as a couple.
I find it really disrespectful and hurtful that she ignored
this boundary, especially when she saw what it.

Speaker 6 (26:41):
Was doing to me. I found it very cruel.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
I talked to her about blocking contact with this person
and ending the friendship so that we could move on.
Considering that she already violated a clearly set boundary, I
felt the need to escalate. She seemed open to that initially,
but was indignant about it later on. I've asked her
to apologize for ignoring the boundary. And disrespect me and
the marriage, promise she won't do it again and outline
some steps to ensure it won't happen again. She seems

(27:05):
to think I'm setting up an ultimatum on friendship. But
I just want to path forward I can be comfortable with.
She says she wasn't doing this to be cruel. She
doesn't seem at all sorry to me. She says she
has a deep connection with Josh, but again they're just friends.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
The deep connection with Josh is so fishy to me. Yeah,
I want some lasagna bad.

Speaker 6 (27:23):
What would you do for it?

Speaker 5 (27:25):
I mean, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Steal maybe in the gutter, and like if it was
like he asked it as a question, like is that
the right one?

Speaker 2 (27:33):
What?

Speaker 5 (27:34):
I guess I would steal.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Things on you?

Speaker 7 (27:36):
I guess yeah, It's like what I wasn't that was
like a one liner bit.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
I didn't want to continue that.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah, she doesn't want to end the friendship because she
says she'll be outside the core group of enthusiasts at
the activities that they've set up. My position is that
my wife is acting inappropriately and disregarding my feelings by
ignoring the boundary I believe my wife loves me, but
I also think she has a crush on this guy
and is kind of acting on it and downplaying it.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
Am I overre acting? Am I being unreasonable? What should
I do?

Speaker 6 (28:02):
There's another thing.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
Here's the funny part.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Before the rest, I had her read the original post
to show how it looked to everyone. Her palms started
to get so sweaty it left a stain on the laptop.
She didn't have a lot to say about it except wow,
this is a lot to process. We set up a
counseling appointment to work on things. The working solution we
had was that she would tell me when they texted
each other. My wife was following through with that, and
I thanked her every time. I also told her if

(28:25):
she slipped up in some way, to just acknowledge it,
not delete messages and all that. The counseling session was
a name. The counselor seemed like he was on autopilot
and just wanted to get to the Gottman books. We
set up a couple of future appointments. She had a
work trip coming up. We went skiing the day before
and I took her to the airport and kissed her goodbye.
I texted her from the time to time, and she
would send pictures of the things she was seeing, but
seemed a little unresponsive. I figured she was just busy

(28:47):
with everything going on, or maybe she's busy with Lasagna boy.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
She never called me or our daughter. She would say
she was taking a bath.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
At the end of the night, I picked her up
from the airport and brought her home, and she seemed distant.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
I had to ask for a hug.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
She went skiing the next day, so things were feeling weird,
and I checked the phone bill and lo and behold,
she called Josh for an hour one night, and then
he called her two other nights for a couple of hours.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
I checked her Facebook.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
The messages from her friends were talking about how he
tried to kiss her at some point, but they hadn't
cut him out of the group in any way. Also,
one of her friends told her to delete messages and
call logs before coming home, as I might check them. Ugh,
these are all garbage people, yeah, gross, gross, gross, Just
a bunch of dirty, stinky banana peel people. I put
her stuff in garbage bags and told her off. When

(29:32):
she got home, I told her she was a cheater
and the guy was a cheater, and that they deserved
each other. She didn't have much to say because she
couldn't even come up with a bad lie, filled her
car up and left. I'm astonished at how morally bankrupt
she is and her friends are as well. I've met
these people. They know who I am and that I'm
a decent guy. I just can't imagine encouraging someone to
hide im moral behavior, truly. I asked her from the
start of this mess if she wanted to exit the relationship,

(29:55):
and she said she wanted to work things out.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
She saw how much pain it was causing.

Speaker 6 (29:58):
Me, and she kept doing it.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
You think you know people.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
I believe she was playing me and the guy off
of each other, hinting to him that our relationship wasn't
solid and maybe someday they could be a couple, while
also trying to reconcile with me. She is a narts
and this was feeding her ego. And by the way,
you can feed our ego bye listening to full episodes
and stories like this.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Although we're not narcisists.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
All you have to do is go to Spotify or
have a podcast or wherever you get podcasts.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
From and search.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Okay, storytime and you can have the time of your
life listening to all the good advice in the world
given goofily, and we do have a little bit of
the story left. Honestly, I mean, are you on team
I mean I'm on team divorce.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (30:36):
I mean it's interesting because it's like the thing together
for twenty years, and I know that that changes your
relationship and like you know, obviously you're like more committed
and stuff, but like I don't know, I've just I've
just heard that, like marriage is just like different in
how you approach problems like this, Like you're a little
more you've been together for so much longer, you're a
little more committed to each other. So like it's possible
for some of these things to be like overlooked again

(30:58):
or you know, not overlooked.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
So it just like worked through, I guess.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (31:02):
Yeah, it just doesn't feel like they're gonna come to
a solution this way, you know, Like it just doesn't
because he might not be the only one.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Like this could be.

Speaker 7 (31:11):
Yeah, I was ten years ago, the last one that
we knew about, but maybe.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
There was other stuff since then. Yeah, and this is
the one time that she found out.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
That's the problem is it calls things like this, call
the entire relationship into question. It makes it like how
long have you been doing this? And then you go,
oh it never, this is the first time, and it's like, well,
guess what. I can't trust you or believe you anymore. Yes,
you've just been lying to me behind my back. Let's
finish this story the short term because I'm stressed and
it's hurting my ability to sleep. Sorry if some of

(31:39):
this doesn't make sense, I know I'll be better off
in the long run, but it does right now.

Speaker 6 (31:43):
And that's true.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
It's pretty lame that she gets to shack up with
this dirt bag, and I probably won't feel like dating
for years anyway. Once a cheater, always a cheater, Trust
your gut. I should have told her to f off
a long time ago. Hope I don't get destroyed in
the divorce and that is the end of that story. Wow,
I have a feeling unsus You're in like one of
those countries that I guess just doesn't see cheating as

(32:05):
a as an impacting force in a divorce, like.

Speaker 7 (32:08):
Makes divorce very difficult or something that you should probably
get davorable treatment.

Speaker 5 (32:13):
I would hope, yeah, yeah, but ope.

Speaker 6 (32:16):
You are going to be better off in the long run.
You are going to be better off in the long run.
That does bring us to the end of that story.

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can't help but develop so quickly. Are they still growing
past the double d's anyway? My mother and father thought

(33:30):
they could try and hide it with turtlenecks and baggy clothes.
While other teens were cute outfits. I looked like I
wanna be nun covered from head to toe to hide
my body. As I grew up, it got worse. I
got asked to dances and my parents would buy me
dresses that covered me from the neck to the toes.

(33:53):
I swear my claustrophobia was at an all time high
living in that house. Because of all this, I also
develop depression off At this point, I didn't care what
I looked like and ate a lot to cope with
everything that was going on in my life and mind.
I gained weight, a lot of it, and of course
that was just another thing for my parents to complain about.

(34:15):
Fast forward to now, I'm all grown up and living
on my own. For the past twenty years, I've worked
on myself and my mental health to the point I
lost one hundred and eighty two pounds.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Who dang empressient.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
I went from a size twenty six to a size
ten to twelve, depending on the style of clothing, and
got my hormones in check. You'd think my family would
be happy for me. Right wrong. I got invited to
my cousin's wedding a couple months ago. I went out
and bought a dress for the occasion, because why not.
I never buy things for myself, and I wanted to
feel good on this day. I bought a beautiful blush

(34:53):
pink dress with a sweetheart neckline and two to three
sleeves with a lace overlay on top side like a
beautiful dress. It was the prattiest thing ever and only
showed a little bit.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
It's like this, and then you have the lace covering
as well.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, so you're just saying, like a little bit. As
soon as I walked into the venue, my mother and
father waved me over to their seats so I could
sit with them. As soon as I sit down, my
father decided it would be the perfect time to tell
me that while I looked nice, it would be better
if I could cover up with a rap or something.

(35:31):
I looked at my mother and she was clutching her
imaginary pearls and instantly agreed with my father, like me,
showing an inch or two of cleavage was the end
of the world. I ignore them because I was raised
better than to raise my voice in church and After
the ceremony, I walked away and didn't say a word. Yeah.
I congratulated my cousin and her husband on the way out,

(35:54):
about to head to the reception. As soon as I
got in my car with the love of my life,
I heard my phone blowing up with texts. I glanced
at the screen ensampled my father, mother, and even my
sister texting me options of wraps I could borrow for
the reception. I sighed and said I didn't need one
because it was eighty four degrees and I was already

(36:15):
sweating in what I had on. They all responded with, well,
if your new out address yourself, then we wouldn't have
to help you. That's when I lost it. I texted back,
you all realize I am forty one years old. I
can dress myself, right. I know, me being big chested
must be so bad for you. Since I'm the one

(36:38):
who has to live with them and have lived with
them for over twenty years, I like how they're like
little roommates.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
I've been living with them. You don't know what it's like.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
I need to charge them rent for being up here.
This is my body and I will wear what I
want where I want stop trying to police my outfits.
You witched and blame me when I was heavier, and
now that I feel good in my own skin, you
want to tear me down more. I'm done. I will

(37:11):
see you at the reception, and if any of you
try to cover me up or to save face, I
will not hesitate to cut you all off. Yes, I
turned my phone off and had my boyfriend drive us
to the reception. He was so proud of me for
standing up to my parents that we might have taken
a detour to a secluded beach and made out for

(37:33):
an hour. Okay, oh pete. Anyway, once we got to
the reception, my cousin and aunt pulled me aside and
scolded me for sending my parents the message I sent.
I explained to them that they have been policing my
clothing for decades and I'm done with it. I'm an
adult and can decide what's appropriate and what's not. My
aunt understood, but my cousin said she isn't taking sides,

(37:55):
and which wish I hadn't started drama on her day. Okay, wait, pause,
this is ridiculous. Pausing right here, pausing right here. It's
at a wedding the cousin. The cousin's wedding, is OP
at all the a hole for pushing back like on
that day, No.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Because they kept harassing her. And also this wasn't it
wasn't like they were in front of everyone and OPI
was like, wow, this is a text.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
And also text there is there's the issue of placing
blame on the wrong party exactly. Don't place blame on
OP setting a boundary with their parents being like, Hey,
I'm gonna wear what I want. I'm an adult woman.
Place blame if you're gonna place blame on anyone on
the parents being like, yeah, cover up.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
Child, because I'm assuming the parents came up to the
cousin was and we're like, oh, p well cut her up,
and we're like complaining or something, and that's how the
cousin found.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Out the cousin should be like, shut up, shut this
is my.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Day, wedding day. I don't care. That's what should have happened.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
My aunts understand, but my cousin said she isn't taking
sides and wished I hadn't started drama on her day.
I told my cousin if she was so concerned with
drama and maybe she needed to go talk to my
parents and tell them. You stop telling people how I
upset them.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
Yeah, just said that's what I am. Sam just said,
So Reddit, am I the a hole?

Speaker 2 (39:22):
I want to know from all of y'all here with
us in the room right now. Do you believe Opie
is in the the a hole in any way? And
also like, what should Ope do from here? Is there anything?
Is there anything that can be done?

Speaker 4 (39:38):
I think you just told your cousin you said, well,
I think OPI kind of already did. But you say, like,
I don't want to talk about this because it's your
wedding day. We'll talk about later.

Speaker 6 (39:46):
Yeah, leave at that.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
And then you say to your parents, you block them,
you say, stop talking to me.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah, and also stop talking to the cousins.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
Stop talking to the cousins, stop talking to me, shut
your mouth, and enjoy the day.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
We got some edits, we got some up so let's
get into it at it. Some people in the comments
were shocked about the dress color choice, which was what
I think it was, pink. The theme was two shades
of pink. Just envisioned the wedding scene from Steel Magnolia's
a blush pink and a dusty rose shade of pink.
And to add my aunt, who also had polycystic ovarian

(40:21):
syndrome and was rather a large chest to herself before
she got a reduction, finally understood where I was coming from.
My mother was even wearing the same shade of pink
as me, so the cousin was not mad about the
pink color. She was just upset that I upset my
parents and sister. The only other person who was on

(40:41):
my side and didn't see it as a problem see
a problem with my outfit was my brother. The rest
of the reception, my brother and boyfriend were playing defense,
keeping my parents and sister away from me the rest
of the night. Everyone else, now I'm questioning the dress then, like, well, no,
I think everyone like it is either.

Speaker 6 (41:01):
The dress or they are around similar people like her parents.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
I feel I feel like she's getting like punished for
for for just having a different body a little bit.
But I also like, I'm like, like, what possibly could
this dress be that it's upsetting this entire gathering.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
I think she just literally just has a different body type,
and they all, yeah, they're all hate.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Well yeah potentially, but like and Annie says like, if
no one is on her side, I like, I'm like,
I'm like now, I'm like, I'm like, okay, Like what's
before that?

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Yeah, I may have misread it, but I was reading
it as no, like.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Oh none of her like core family. Yeah, let's get
into it. There's a whole other backstory behind why I
have a strained relationship with my family. But I'll probably
make an update on that at some point. I do
want to discuss things with my family. I just don't
know how to start. I don't know if I should
go in, uh, shooters blazing or gently bring it up

(41:59):
so they don't feel like I'm attacking them. I just
want my voice to be heard. And there is an updates.
Do we want to see the dress now or do
we want to go to the update give.

Speaker 6 (42:08):
Us more context?

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Yeah, let's let's see. Let's see it.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
But oh, come on, come.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
On, that's literally below the knee.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
That's like, oh my god, Wow, that is just so
much coverage.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
That's a lot of coverage, so much coverage.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
But didn't she say she has a double breast, double D, double.

Speaker 4 (42:37):
D, double breath. Don't she said you had two.

Speaker 6 (42:41):
Moves double breasted compared to other women. Is that true?

Speaker 4 (42:44):
She's not double breasted.

Speaker 6 (42:46):
It may look like she's double breasted compared to other women.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Double breast didn't even mean.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Unless unless they've lost one move.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
I'm miss cha. Bird says double d is not that big?
Isn't that? Is that not big?

Speaker 4 (43:02):
It's not that big?

Speaker 2 (43:03):
All right? But we got an update. So on Saturday,
I contacted my brother and sister to talk about what
happened a few months ago at the wedding. So this
is the update. My sister was hesitant but agreed, and
my brother was all in and said he'd be there.
We met up at my sister's place and sat down.
I started off the conversation by saying that I love

(43:23):
my family and would never insult them in any way,
but for a forty one year old woman to be
reprimanded over a dress that wasn't even too revealing was ridiculous.
My sister tried defending herself and my parents, but my
brother put a stop to it right there. He mentioned
all the times mom, dad and her would always nitpick

(43:44):
my outfits growing up, never allowing me the freedom to
have my own personality or style. It wasn't about her,
It was about me and how I feel. That shut
her up. Well. All I wanted was for her to
see how it feels for me, always being not when
I have something good going on in my life, always
feel like a second class citizen in the family, never

(44:06):
living up to their expectations, not wanting to be the
dutiful daughter anymore, and wanting to make my own choices
and live the life that I want and that doesn't
include covering myself up from the neck down. My chest
was no longer up for discussion. Tell you, if they
can't be happy that I am still willing to be

(44:28):
a part of the family, then so be it. And
that goes for her as well. I laid it all out.
If she can't support me, if she can't support me
against my parents, then I would have to cut her
out too. I also mentioned how being cut out of
Christmas because of my stunt at the wedding was uncalled.

Speaker 6 (44:46):
She wore a normal dress and you want Christmas.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
As you would what.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
We saw the dress and it's like it feels very covered.
It's not like a Kanye girl friend dress where it's
completely race. Do you even want to be around this family,
no question for all of you. Is this low contact
or no contact.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
Kind of m I guess that's as op.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
I feel like you. I think, uh, putting your distance
and checking in to see if they've changed their mind. Yeah,
which is why I recommend low contact. But it really
does seem that they're affecting your mental health. And like, agreed,
you know, nothing's worth that agreed. I told her if
she wants to side with mom and Dad, that's fine,
but I will no longer accept their talx behavior. We
are all grown ups and should act that way. No

(45:33):
more involving people and family drama. And she agreed. She
said she would talk to Mom and Dad on my
behalf because as of right now, I am blocked by them.
By the way, you should never block us and listen
to us twenty four to seven in your ears by
going to our podcast okay, story time wherever you get

(45:55):
your podcast. You can listen to us while you're doing
other stuff. It's pretty great. Tons of other stuff, tons
about the so. My brother, on the other hand, decided
to be petty. He's planning a family Easter get together
and is going to invite everyone except my parents. He
might go over there in the morning to see them
and talk some sense to them, but he's not holding
his breath on them realizing their mistakes. So as right now,

(46:16):
I have both siblings on my side, but we'll see
how long that lasts. If I blowout with my parents
in the future, I'll update, But as of right now,
I guess this is all I can give, and that
is where that story ends. But we got more for you.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
So much more for you. My parents demanded we skip
my graduation ceremony for church that happens every Sunday. So
I'm writing this because my college plans were uprooted at
as of Sunday, June sixteenth, I'll be graduating this week
and my ceremony is later this week. However, my church

(46:56):
announced that they'll be doing their own graduation ceremony on
July seventh, where they'll have church graduates walk down the
aisle of the sanctuary during service to be recognized and
receive prayer. And the pastor announced it on the sixteenth.

Speaker 7 (47:11):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
By the way, this comes from Throwa twenty three eighty one.
And if you want to spent your own stories, go
to our slash Ookey Storytime Separate it so according to
my parents. He said it was important to make sure
the next generation rooted their future in God, and the
church will be having a barbecue after service in honor
of the graduates. However, I haven't attended church since I

(47:32):
was sixteen due to an incident I'll explain later, but
my parents seem hell bent on making sure I attend
not just the church graduation, but church from now on too,
and they added strings to prior agreements that were never attached.
Before the church graduation was announced, my parents agreed to
split tuition with me to attend a community college. Upon

(47:55):
me finding a job this summer, I plan to transfer
afterward to finish my bachelor However, however, after the announcement,
my parents said they weren't going to attend my graduation
and that I wasn't allowed to either a complete one
to eighty out of nowhere. We even invited relatives to
attend from out of state, but my parents already told

(48:16):
them to attend the church graduation instead, and I feel
like they pulled the rug from under me when I
said I still planned to attend my high school graduation
with my friends, they threatened to rescind their offer to
pay for college if I went and didn't come to
the church one and I just felt blindsided by this.
When I tried to explain how they changed their mind

(48:38):
out of nowhere, they said that the pastor talked about
how people lost their way in college by disregarding faith
and morals, So they weren't going to pay for me
to go and change because of worldly influences. Yes, when people.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Learn learned about themselves and how they want to interact
with the world, that identity and beliefs.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
But when I said that I would pay for tuition
myself without them if I find a job while still
attending the high school graduation, they said they charged me
rent starting in July, which is unfair because I've yet
to find a job. So not only so, they said
you have to pay for school, and you're like fine,
and they're like, well, you're also gonna have to pay

(49:18):
for rent. So they're actively trying to make it life
harder for you.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Yeah, well, it's because it's not actually about like the
school or a rent, it's about control. They're literally just
trying to control you.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
I've been applying like crazy these past few weeks, and
I have a few interviews lined up too. They're just
trying to make me return to church after I stopped
attending two years ago, and I've been really frustrated with
their flip flop. They've said they're doing this because they
made mistakes in college before later finding God, and they
didn't want me to make the same ones too. The

(49:51):
last thing I'll add is this, I was bullied in
that church in the past, and I reached my breaking
point two years ago. The youth had a camp out
on the grass buying the church, where I was hazed
by this really annoying girl, and no one did anything,
including the assistant and chaperone in our tents. There were
stupid pranks that were made in good fun, but the
most hurtful thing was when that one girl made jokes

(50:12):
and comments about my body and weight when we were changing.
That really hurt, and our tent chaperone did nothing when
I told her afterward because she wasn't in there as
we changed. This is just one of many things with
this girl during youth group when leaders weren't looking, but
that was the most hurtful. However, to my surprise, my
parents took my side and didn't make me attend youth

(50:33):
group after that, and they let me stop attending for
the most part, to my surprise. I miss how they
were reasonable in the past and hope they can be
reasonable again with me here. Most of my relatives are
also churchgoers and have agreed to attend the church graduation instead,
and I just need advice because it all happened so fast,

(50:53):
and it especially hurts that they don't want to attend
my high school graduation. Yeah, but why would they go
to the church grad situation if you aren't going?

Speaker 2 (51:01):
It doesn't either they're going. You're supposed to go for
these graduates? Who are you going for? If you're graduate?
Is not going to be that.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
My friends are in high school and I don't consider
anyone in our church's youth group to be my friend,
So of course I want to graduate with my friends.
But I can't pay rent in July, as they're threatening
because it's just a few days away, and I need
advice on how to get through to them. All right,
really is an update? I mean, realistically, if OP doesn't
pay rent, what are they going to do? I guess

(51:29):
it depends on how awful they are and how old
is OP presumably eighteen.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Eighteen or like could it be like seventeen going into eighteen.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
Well, they're about to graduate, So what are the.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Rules about kicking out your eighteen year old kid?

Speaker 4 (51:41):
I mean you can do it, unfortunately, but are can you?

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Yeah? You can kick out Those are like squatters rights,
there's something you know like they should.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
Yeah, all you eighteen year olds, you need to learn
about squatters rights. But uh, we're going to get into
this update. I was unable to update sooner due to
my phone being taken away. Oh but I'll explain why.
A few people suggested reaching out to some non religious
relatives to see if they could help or even provide
shelter if they tried to throw me out, and I

(52:10):
decided on my aunt after having no success with friends.
I told my friends first about everything my parents threatened,
but long story short, they talked to their parents, who
were unable to take me in and they said it
was last minute or mostly busy with their own things
slash graduations too. I then tried my aunt and told
her everything too, and she said I could stay with
her soon, but not in time for my high school

(52:32):
graduation because it was really short noted. She said I
could at some point this summer and she wasn't initially
coming to my graduation because she lives on the other
side of the country, but she said she would try
to talk some sense into my parents, and that led
to my phone being removed. My parents didn't like that
I told her because it was none of our business.
According to them, I don't know what was said on

(52:54):
the call, and they threatened to turn off my phone
plan unless I gave them my phone, and I caved
and they were yelling at me and gave it to them,
along with my laptop they wanted to because they threatened
to punt me out sooner than July for talking about
them to my aunt because she could tell others.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
And now they're taking away ope's abilities to communicate, Yeah,
to communicate with people and also get a job and
have their again, this is all about control.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, obviously there's different family dynamics.
But if I had like a friend or a family
member who was telling me that, like their parents were
taking away their ability to communicate and we're going to
kick them out, I'd be like, come as soon.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
As possible, and here's my computer. Yeah, go on. I
don't know. Indeed, look at some jobs right now.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
They also said that they'd put my stuff outside while
I was at the high school graduation if I attended.

Speaker 5 (53:42):
Oh my god, they.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
Well, they wouldn't be at the church service sud so
they would punt me out that night instead of their
original threat to start charging me rent in July. So,
for those reasons plus another, all say in a moment,
I decided not to attend my high school graduation, oh
because I wouldn't be able to enjoy it. Honestly, for
your safety, I think that, unfortunately, is the best move. However,

(54:07):
I think as soon as possible, you need to leave these.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
Like get out of here.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
I think from this moment it's like, Okay, I'm going
to do what you say right now. Yeah, But essentially
you're the other kind of relationships like this. This is
a complete overstep. It's not fair. No Ah man Op,
I feel bad for you. It sucks.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
I was already having anxiety about what they do to
my stuff while there, and I didn't want to be
homeless when I returned. I also had a loss of
motivation to do other things leading up to it, obvious,
like sports, hanging out, or even watching TV. I knew
I wouldn't enjoy it because I was already dreading it
before it happened, and my anxiety there would be worse

(54:46):
than the lead up. I also didn't want to wear
a smile the whole time with none of my family
in attendance either, and I didn't think I could hide
it emotionally either. I also decided to attend the church
graduation to get it over with, and I radtionized it
like I did with other things growing up. I was
forced to go to youth group and kids choir growing up,
and I was forced to be baptized too. This was

(55:09):
no different. Just five minutes of the pastor calling all
graduates on stage to pray for them, and they didn't
even give us a gift like on Mother's Day. Well,
all my life, I've had to suck up things I
hated at church, and the church graduation was less tedious
than the pre baptism classes. They were mandatory. Okay, so
you probably got baptized folder because it was only five

(55:30):
minutes on stage compared to the three weeks of baptism classes.
Some relatives came, gave me money from cards, and we
ate lunch at a restaurant afterward. Something we did when
my dad was elected to a church position years ago
and invited friends to see him get installed before lunch afterward.
I'm pretty used to the song and dance, and this

(55:50):
was easier slash shorter than other church bs. My parents
also returned my phone after the church graduation, and a
lot of anxiety lessened when I decided to skip my graduation.
Don't get me wrong, I'll always hate them for it,
and I'm no longer accepting their help for college either,
which I think, unfortunately is the smartest thing.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Yeah, you don't want them to have like any kind
of grip on you, But how do all right? I
don't understand how a parent could just totally uh relinquish
any desire to help their child, like to act to
actively make your child suffer? Yeah, are you kidding?

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By the way, you know what else is okay? Listening
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that we when did we get more time? But there
is a little bit more to this story, so we're
gonna jump into it. I'm gonna find a job hopefully

(56:50):
too if part time and try to move out over
the summer if I can, and I won't talk to
them again afterward because of their stress. I've decided to
skip a once in a lifetime event to prioritize my
mental health because I wouldn't have enjoyed it anyway with
the stress. And the fact that they're happy with me
for obeying as they gave my phone back should allow
me to find jobs without additional stress. They also withdrew

(57:13):
the July rent threat and everything's been peaceful since the
church graduation, although I'll never forgive them for what they
tried to do.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Yeah, use this as your moment to be self sufficient
because you don't want to be under their thumb like
ever again.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
I also expect them to threaten me with something else
in the future too, So I hope to move out
as soon as possible, even if it means staying with
my aunt until finding a job. I'm glad she said
I could stay with her, and hopefully the time until
I do remains peaceful. Also, if you need a little
extra income, maybe send out send out like a picture
of yourself graduating to all my family.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Parents are kicking me out, just say.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Like, I graduated and then people send you graduation money?

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Did you do that?

Speaker 4 (57:54):
We'll be at a party, But I feel like you could.
I mean, you could throw a party if you want,
but you can also just be like I grad waited.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Ew O, good work? Oh man, op, this sucks. I mean,
what what job do you get, like in college that
could actually pay for.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
Well, you can become an ra and get yeah, subsidized housing.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Yeah, so you get subsidized housing and and.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
Like a food budget and stuff.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Yeah.

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Speaker 2 (58:23):
My brother in law took advantage of my sister's grief,
so I called him out.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Call him out.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Characters me female, my hobby, dear husband, my sister law LN,
and my brother in law Larry Larry right, all of
us are old enough to have our acts together and
know how to be adults, or so you thinks. By
the way, this comes from Sensitive Beat twenty four forty two,
And if you want to submit your own stories, go

(58:51):
to our slash Okay story time Cuburty. So the problem
is that Larry has been on substances and booze on
and off for the past two years, and even when
he's clean and sober, he's still a jerk. Do your
husband and I avoid him like the plague. Lynn is
a super sweet sibling who's honestly too good for her
own good and can't bear to tell anyone no tricky.

(59:15):
She also has her own set of emotional and mental
health issues, and Lynn is physically disabled to a certain extent,
so she's getting so she's a sitting duck for Larry
to take advantage of. Larry sounds like the worst kind
of person.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
Yeah, Larry sounds pretty awful.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
A year ago, my elderly father in law, Dad was
living with Lynn Or He was passing away from dementia
and a bunch of other issues, and Lynn took more
and more care of him. She ended up being his
full time nurse, but without pay. Larry moved in with
them during the last eight months or so of Dad's
life and proceeded to empty Dad's bank account each month,

(59:59):
just spickaball. Oh my god. He had Dad's bank card
and would help himself to the cash in the account
whenever Dad's social Security money came through the worst kind
of people play on the young and elderly. Yeah, Lynn
had her hands full with nursing Dad and didn't have
the emotional or physical energy to deal with anything else,

(01:00:21):
So Larry pretty much did whatever he wanted. Of course,
he contributed nothing to the household expenses. Dear husband and
I refuse to come over to the house except for
rare occasions. Then a year ago, Dad finally passed away.
Lynn was the executor of the will and had to
get the household. She also inherited all the possessions inside

(01:00:43):
the house. We assumed we would help her get the
house ready to sell and she would handle the estate stuff.
But three months after Dad's death, nothing was happening. Lynn
was struggling with depression and could barely even get out
of bed, let alone start cleaning out the house or
getting ready to sell. To make it worse, Larry started
digging your car and disappearing with it for days or

(01:01:04):
even weeks at a time. Then he started committing petty
crimes while in the car. Oh my god, driving off
without paying for gas, running red lights, shoplifting. The car
ended up being impounded in a neighboring state. Larry stayed
in jail overnight and then called Lynn asking him to
help him get back home. The audacity my helping and

(01:01:28):
I finally had enough put your foot freaking down. I'm
not a lawyer or a paralegal, but I work in
a field that requires me to do a lot of
things you have to do to settle in a state,
So I feel confident in my ability to do what
Lynn wasn't getting done. Picking up the slack and asked
if she wanted me to help her with the estate,

(01:01:51):
and she cried with relief and begged me to do
it because she just couldn't. The first thing I did
was ask her if Larry was paying rent or contributing
to the household expenses in any way. I mean, this
is Larry, we're talking about Larry. She said no. I
confirmed this with her several times and also made sure
there was no lease agreement anywhere. Somehow Larry got back
into the house. He took the other vehicle, one that

(01:02:14):
belonged to my father in law, and drove off with it.
With him gone, my hubby and I changed the lock
from the house and left a note on the door
telling him he was no longer welcome in the house
and we waited.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
Larry's loud come in, you're not allowed, Larry.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Three days later, Larry came back to the house and
found the note. He was bits. He came back with
the police. What Larry controls the police. I came back
with the police and got Lynn to say that yes,
he was living there and had been paying rent. So
the police told her that she had to let him
back in, and everything went back to normal, except now

(01:02:57):
Larry was taking off with the other car, which had
belonged to Dad whenever he felt like it, and Lynn's
car was still impounded who knows where. When we found out,
dear husband and I confronted Larry and then Lynn, and
that's when we found out that Larry did in fact
pay for three months after Dad fell into eternal sleep.

(01:03:20):
Lynn forgot about it. He gave Lynn cash each time,
and the cash did show up in her bank account.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
Wait, so Lynn, that's a big thing to forget about it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Maybe Larry isn't such a devo. So that's what I did.
I decided to treat him like a tenant while I
behaved like a landlord, a mean and greedy but still
legal landlord. It was time for maximum betty. I immediately
wrote out a notice that Larry's rent was going up
by ten percent, effective in thirty days, and by another

(01:03:49):
ten percent in sixty days, the maximum we can do
by law in this state. I wrote out another notice
that Larry's lease was terminated again to dig effect in
sixty days. I knew he wouldn't leave in sixty days,
so the rent increase was to make it more painful
for him when he stayed past the termination date. Macon
Larry squirm cast him out, cast him out. So I

(01:04:10):
also notified him that from now on, all rents payments
must be made by check or credit card, and I
introduced him into the concept of late fees again to
the maximum allowable mounts. I had Lynn sign these and
then I put them under the door of his room
and videoed myself doing so. Since I was now basically

(01:04:31):
the acting property manager, I also went through the house
and started taking pictures of any paperwork that had been
left out and open for view to only guess how
dirty and messy the house was, with substance paraphernalia, just
general mayhem everywhere. But the good news is that Larry
had left his mail open for viewing all over the place,

(01:04:52):
including all the legal notices for his many court cases.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
Larry, Larry, Larry.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
You thought you could run from the Larry Larry on
the lamb. Oh, Larry, there's the devil.

Speaker 6 (01:05:04):
He can do whatever he wants.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
I took pictures of all of it and put all
of the information in a spreadsheet for easier tracking. I
now know where he was supposed to appear in court
and where, and Lynn would let me know if he
actually made his appearance or not. If he didn't, I
was sure the relevant court would like to know where
he was. Oh, he's trying to snitch do it? And

(01:05:26):
we got an update. So Larry is getting charged every
penny I can legally come up with, but he's still
in the house. I give him notice after notice about
the fees he's incurring, which will be deducted from his
share of the estate. Ah. He refuses to read any
of them, but I make sure he gets them anyway.
Plus we know from all of his legal PaperWorks sitting
around everywhere, that his driver's license is suspended. But he

(01:05:50):
is still taking Dad's car, which is part of the estate,
and driving it wherever he darn pleases. It's a matter
of time before he gets impounded to the money to
get back would have to come out of his part
of the estate, so Larry is Larry is draining his
estate too right now, fool.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
Run out of money, Larry, and then what will you do?

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
We disabled the car by taking out the distributor cap
and the battery, and because of my son as an
auto mechanic, he also takes a picture of the wiring
in the car before completely undoing it. We can restore
it easily enough, but Larry would have to get a
mechanic to figure out how to get the wiring back,
and he'd still have to get a new battery and
distributor cap. But just in case, we also took the

(01:06:35):
license plate off so that if he did manage to
get it started, he would get a lot of attention
on the road. I just wish we could have seen
his face when he tried to start it and looked
under the hood.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
Breaking part your car so that Larry can't get into it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
I mean, sometimes you'd got to take drastic measures when
you got a guy like Larry infecting every area of
your life. Okay, was just terrible lariness.

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
Terrible lariness.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
A couple months go by, and to make a long
story short, we managed to get the house under contract
as is and Larry moves out Cynara. Larry go back
to When's Head. He rents a U haul to get
his stuff out of the house, and then he is gone. Yay.
But the week of closing, Larry comes back.

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:07:22):
No, just like the devil appears out of nowhere.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Now he breaks in and trashes the house.

Speaker 6 (01:07:29):
Larry.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Not only that, but he shows up at the house
while the buyer is doing the final inspection as high
as a kite.

Speaker 5 (01:07:40):
No Larry.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
The sale nearly falls through, but in the end the
house closes, Thank god, Larry couldn't mess that up, and
the money from it is added to the estate, which
will be divided equally among three siblings. We have narrowly
managed to avoid disaster, narrowly, but as we known from
this story, Larry will find a way to mess things up.

(01:08:05):
With the proceeds from the house and some other assets,
it looks like each of the three siblings will get
around fifty thousand dollars atance.

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
Not too shabby at all.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
We just have to wait for the estate to close.
A couple more months go by and Larry is living
in a trailer that a friend of mine is willing
to lease to him.

Speaker 4 (01:08:26):
Where's living Leavita Loca.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
My friend doesn't see him for a couple of weeks,
but then suddenly state troopers show up on her property
wanting to know where Larry is.

Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
Larry, Larry, Larry, look at you getting in trouble again.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
Larry's got at least three stars GTA stars. They're looking
for Larry's. They're looking for.

Speaker 5 (01:08:48):
Larry for Larry.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Actively turns out that he stole a U haul that
he used to move out of my dad's house. My
friend calls and I end up on the phone with
the state trooper. Since I've been carefully documenting everything about
Larry for the past few months, I am able to
tell him and the troopers some likely locations to find

(01:09:10):
that Larry. Then I also call the U haul store
where he rented the truck and give him the same information.
At least they can get their moving van back, but
Larry will not be able to get anything out of it.
In less than sixty days. He has lost everything that
he took out of the house in less than sixty days.

(01:09:31):
Dang Larry was up and then all the way down.

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
Well, that's how it goes. The house always wins.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
And we got another Larry update. Larry has been punted
out of the trailer. My friend was so kind to
let him use and he has at least one arrest
warrant out. Man is one star. He's always Larry's always
at least one star.

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
Yeah, he's got a running a running star there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
As far as we know, he's officially homeless. Lynn is
living with us protected f doesn't have to worry about
him stealing her car, thank god, But Larry still calls
her periodically and asks for money, which he thankfully doesn't
give him. He also begs to live with us, which
is a giant heck to the note. Meanwhile, we continue

(01:10:16):
settling the estates. Assets are liquidated, debts are paid, and
I submit a final accounting to the court. I carefully
document what Larry owes to the estate, which includes all
the money he took out of my father in law's
bank account before and after his death, along with the
rent that he said he paid but we never found

(01:10:36):
any evidence of it. Hey, if he claimed to be
a tenant, I'm going to treat him like a tenant,
including all the late fees. All right, there we go. Ope,
kind of given brass tax to that fre freaking Larry.
One of the notices I gave him that he blew
off said that we would end the lease the date
he left the property and he wouldn't owe any rent

(01:10:58):
pass that date as long as he's away. But since
he actually did come back and trasts the place, I
charge him for that time too, plus late fees.

Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
Hashtag pettit Princess God to fight Larry with Larry.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Remember, all this settling of the estate is technically being
done by Lynn, not me. She is the executor, but
I've been doing all the paperwork, explaining everything to her
and she signs off on it. I make sure all
the paperwork gets everywhere it needs to go, sending certified letters,
dropping off signed forms in person, etc. It's a lot

(01:11:33):
of work, but it's the only way the estate will
get settled. Finally, we receive word that the estate is
settled and we can distribute the leftover money to the heirs.
Larry owes the estate tens of thousands of dollars yikes,
so that is withheld from his portion and goes to
his siblings. But he also owes Lynn one thousand dollars
and also owes my friend money for damage to her property.

(01:11:55):
We can't take that out of the estate. I send
him a message. If he signs a release allowing us
to pay those debts out of his portion, I will
drive wherever he is, most likely in a shelter somewhere
and give him his check. If he doesn't, then it's
up to lind to figure out exactly what he is
owed and how to get him his money. And it
will take a lot longer, and Linn is okay with

(01:12:17):
his plan. Okay. Best of all, Larry can't complain to
the court about me not helping. I'm not the executor.
I don't have to lift a finger if I don't
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Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
Of twenty four seven three six five.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
So yes, he agreed to the terms. My hubby and
I drove into town and met him in the park.
I wasn't going to meet him alone. Probably good. He
signed the release and I gave him the check. He
had the nerve to ask us for money, but We
really weren't even surprised at that point. We just ignored
him and walked away, and that is the end of
our interaction with him, unless he miraculously turns his life

(01:12:55):
around someday doubt it. I hope that for his sake,
but there are some bridges that you can only cross
in one direction. Like the song goes, you can't go
back again. I pray that he gets the help and
motivation he needs, but I also pray that we, including Lynn,
are never subject to his misbehavior again. That is where

(01:13:15):
the Larry saga ends.
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