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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is Sam. This is a John your og
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Before that, we have a quick two minute break from
the sponsors that keep the show a lot. My wife
cheated with my best friend disgusting. I twenty seven male,
met my wife, Sue, twenty seven female, in college when
we were both eighteen.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
You should see her suer.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
We hit it off immediately and we're saying I love
you within weeks classic she presumed me, and I was
grateful she did. By the way, this comes from any
Imagination ninety seven sixty eight. And if you want to
submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay
Storytime suppered it.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
I'm Sophia, I'm Dakota, and I'm Keon.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
And we'll try to give our best advice. But we
haven't experienced most of these situations ourselves, so if you have,
let us know what you would do in the comments.
But Op says when her father passed away from pancreatic
cancer during her senior year, I was there for her
through everything. I had spend nights at the hospital so
she wouldn't be alone. She called me her soulmate and

(01:00):
said she didn't know what she would have done without me.
I knew I was going to marry her, and I
proposed two years after graduation. Life couldn't get better. I
married the girl of my dreams, had a well paying job,
and both families loved us. My best friend, Dave twenty
six mail and I had what I thought was an
unbreakable bond. My sense it's about to.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Be broken by your wife yoakes and him.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
We'd known each other since third grade and he was
the brother I never had. About a year ago, his
wife passed away in a car crash, which broke him completely.
He moved back to our hometown but wouldn't engage with anyone.
Since Sue had also lost a loved one, I asked
if she could talk to him, thinking she might relate
to his pain better. He definitely related a little too much.

(01:45):
That was my first mistake. We'd visit him daily, and
Sue would spend hours at his place, even without me there.
They went on hikes together, watched movies, and grabbed lunch.
This was far more interaction than I'd intended, but Dave
seemed to be improving. What made me initially oblivious was
that Sue and Dave had never liked each other before.

(02:06):
Sue always thought he was a douche because he bounced
between relationships and cheated on his deceased wife. Well, why
are you friends with Dave?

Speaker 1 (02:15):
That sounds like not the best of friends to have.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
That's like, yeah, maybe like don't send your wife into
the lions den h Sue and Dave became inseparable. She
started inviting him to things I'd planned for us as
a couple. She began showing classic signs of infidelity, always
on her phone, becoming distant, little to no intimacy, and
coming home very late. When I asked who she was texting,

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she'd say it was a girlfriend, but when I asked
to see she became irritated and called me possessive. When
I talked to Dave about how uncomfortable their friendship made me,
he assured me nothing was happening and accused me of
not trusting him or my wife. I was being gas lit.
One day, Sue said she was going to her sisters
for the weekend because she needed space from my accusation,

(03:04):
or maybe she's gonna go make those accusations.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Reality is so unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I called her sister to confirm, and while she was
expecting Sue. Sue hadn't arrived yet. She'd left at three
pm for a four hour drive, and it was now
ten pm. Something told me to go to Dave's house,
and sure enough, my wife's car was parked nearby. I
went in through the back door, which I knew would open.

(03:31):
I could hear my wife moaning as I quietly made
my way through the house.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Maybe she's just watching her favorite sports team lose a game.
Oh no, no, the Cowboys lost to the Bears.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
When I reached his bedroom door, I could see through
the crack my wife bent over his nightstand. I'll never
get that image out of my head. I pushed the
door open, and they both rose, staring.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
At me while she was still bent over the nights.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
You know, what would have been a real power move
is to do something like a tap dance routine. What yeah,
you blow the door open? You just go, hey, yeah,
I'm just helping her stretch. They would truly not know
what to do about that. They wouldn't know what to do.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
I just walked away and got in my car. I
could hear them scrambling and Sue screaming for me to
stop that she could explain.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
I could explain.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
We really hate when people do that, like in stories
when they're like I can explain, like what go? I
really want someone.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
To just be like okay, she just goes. I can explain.
So I came over, we started making it. I go upstairs.
It continues, we get into bed. Yeah that's what are
you gonna explain?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Girl?

Speaker 1 (04:46):
That to go and explain.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
My favorite is stop, what do you want to put
on your clothes first?

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah? We wit wait, stop, hold on. I drove to
a college friend's house and stay there the past week.
I can't eat or sleep both days, and Sue have
been calling, along with family members. I told my family
I was alright, but haven't responded to anyone else. This
pain is unbearable. I don't know how someone I love
so much could do this. Any advice would be deeply appreciated,

(05:14):
and there is an update.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
But what do you think I would have not gone
into the house in the room, I would have just
been like, yeah, clearly you're cheating on me. I walked in,
I heard the noise.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
I would have just moved in silence.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, you just go Hey, I gotta hear your guys
cheating up there wit to head out he not God,
I want to see it. Racket, but I can hear
you cheating.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
I would have just moved in absolute silence and not
exposed myself to traumatic imagery.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
I would love to get the explanation to see them
on the spot.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, like, go okay and see all right.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
I guarantee you like, I didn't get this far. I
didn't think you would stop and actually want to listen
to my explanation of me cheating on you.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Sue sent me a long message. I know you need
space and I'm the last person you want to talk to,
but I feel like I'm going insane. Good. I never
meant for this to happen. You're the last person I
ever wanted to hurt. My relationship with Dave started innocent,
but we connected deeper than intended.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, we definitely intended suet deeper.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Than too deep, and things escalated. I won't lie and
say this was the first time. Oh, we've had spicy
sleep several times past mid stop, but it only turned
physical recently.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
What does that mean? Huh? The rest was emotional emotional
spicy sleep.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
I have feelings for Dave that I won't deny, but
they're nowhere near as strong as what I feel for you.
I love you so much. Now you don't, so why
didn't you sleep with OPI? Yeah, no you don't. Don't
question my love for you. It's real. No, it's not.
What I did has nothing to do with you. That's true.
It does have nothing to do with obi. Dave, and
I took advantage of your kindness. Give me the chance

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to make this right. Please come home. I don't know
what to make of this. I definitely don't know the
person I married, As many suggested. I contacted a lawyer
who seems motivated to help me come out financially whole.
I still love my wife, but I don't know if
I can ever get over this. I've received messages from
Dave two but don't want to read them. I switch
between sorrow and rage constantly. Should I try reconciliation or

(07:25):
end the marriage? Now my family knows everything since Sue
confessed to everyone. I've been away for over two weeks,
and the pain feels fresh. Every time I close my eyes,
I see Sue and Dave together. Most are saying divorce,
and I'd say the same to someone else. But things
aren't black and white when you're living.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
In pretty Sure it was pretty black and white. What
was happening on that nice Dan? Sorry, I thought it
was gonna sneeze bluss you.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Sue's been staying with her sister and went no contact
with Dave, who cares. She was cheating on you for
a while and physically for at least a month, Unless
she's lying about that, which she could be. Her mother
tech an apology for her daughter's behavior. Sue is an
individual counseling, and there is a second update. But do
you have any second thoughts?

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Go ahead and break that off, brother.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Break that off. Don't be with her. She's been cheating
on you. She doesn't love you. She may think she
loves you, but cheating on your partner you've been married
to for a while not love you.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Don't understand.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
The only reason I could do this to you is
because I love you. Because I love you so much.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
I love you so much that I have to love
the guy that you love.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
But there is a second update. I took time off
social media to reflect on my marriage and next steps.
When I look back, most of our marriage was filled
with happy memories, which made me want to find reasons
to stay, but thinking about the cheating and how they
gaslet me only brought me rage. The deeper I looked,
the angrier I got. I'll never forget how angry Sue

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would get when I question where she'd been, or Dave's
disgusted look when I asked if something was going on
between them. The cheating was terrible, but the gas lighting
was worse. It takes a special kind of person to
lie so effortlessly. I remember one night she came home late,
telling me how much she loved me and how she'd
been thinking about me during the drive. I'm certain she

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came from Dave's because she wasn't wearing underwear. Girl girl, huh,
couldn't even put on the underwear. She had spicy sleep
with both of us, back to back, and I kissed
her afterwards. Oh, this situation made me feel completely emasculated.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
I'll uh, I'll see you in the gym.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Brothers rough Sue kept sending emails with the same nonsense
about how miserable she'd be without me.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Good duh, and I hope you are.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
She even sent Bible verses on forgiveness. She's like, no,
the Bible slits. You have to forgive me.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Just send back the Bible verse about infidelity.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Oh yeah, isn't one of the commandments.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Literally one of the commandments is thou shalt not covet
your brother's wife.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Thou shalt not bang it my best friend.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
That yeah, a little known commandment. I started working again
because staying busy helped me cope better. One day I
received a letter from Sue discussing her individual counseling and
underlying issues she discovered, mainly low self esteem. She explained
that the discrepancy in our attractiveness made her self aware
and she wanted validation from someone other than me. Her

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sister had always been prettier, contributing to her insecurity. Even
though I made her feel beautiful, she sought that validation elsewhere.
She asked if we could try marriage counseling. I started
divorce proceedings, nice, nice, oh Z. The day she was served,
Sue showed up at my apartment with the petition. We

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stared at each other and all the pain returned. She
looked like she'd been crying and tried to hug me.
I gently pushed her away, making her hysterical. She started shouting,
asking why with giving up so easily?

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Damn girls, because you gave it up so easily, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, sorry, what were you doing with Dave protecting the
sanctity of our marriage?

Speaker 1 (11:05):
You gave it up to Dave. She's like, you don't understand.
I was just practicing for you.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
She threw herself on my carhood when I tried to leave,
so I relented and we went inside to talk. He's like,
the only reason I'm talking to is because you won't
let me leave. He said she'd do anything to save
our marriage, that she doesn't love Dave, and suggested a
trial separation where I could date others while holding off
on divorce. How about we do full on trial trial

(11:32):
separation where we start with the seven week free trial
and then we just continue because we forget to cancel
the subscription.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Her level of refusal to accept accountability is disgusting and sickening. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
She suggested other things like a one sided open marriage
in my favor, and even moving to another state or country.
I asked her why him and why she only came
back after I caught her. She sobbed, saying she felt
guilty during the but didn't know how to stop. You
just go, Hey, probably shouldn't be doing this because I
don't want to cheat on my partner.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Heah, you take a breath and you go, WHOA, what
are my values? Are they cheating on my partner?

Speaker 2 (12:13):
It seems like that's what they are. Counseling made her
realize she probably would have cheated eventually due to underlying
issues what. I asked if she loved Dave, and she
promised she didn't. I asked if she cheated before, and
she swore on her passed away father. This was the
first time. I asked who else knew, and she hesitated
before admitting only her sister knew a few days before

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I found out. Then I asked if there was anything
else she was hiding. She started crying and asked me
not to get angry. After more sobbing, she admitted she
lied about when the physical relationship started. Wow, none of
us are shocked.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
It's almost like she's a liar.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
But none of us are shocked about that it had
been physical for almost a month, not just the week
before I found out. Duh, she'd minimized it to spare
my feelings. I asked her to leave and never come back.
I told her I found a job in another state
and would be moving once the divorce was underway, leave
and never come back. She cried and pleaded, but I

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threatened to call the police. A few days later, my
mom called saying Sue was in the hospital. I visited
her in the psych ward where she was sleeping. It
hurts because I still love her and I'm just happy
she's okay. I haven't been thinking about divorce given what's happening.
My life is a disaster. It's been eight months since
my life became a nightmare, and things kept getting worse.

(13:35):
Sue got better after therapy, but I knew I couldn't stay. Yeah,
don't let her own problems with mental health, you know,
make you think that you have to stay to help
her when you know she ruined your guys' mare.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
You are not responsible for that.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
I'd never get over it and would harbor resentment for years.
We agreed to divorce and she wanted minimal contact. The
process was smooth and we divorced a month ago. I
moved to the West Coast to start fresh, and things
were finally looking up. But there is a little bit
left to this story. Do any final thoughts.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Sometimes it be the ones closest to you.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
So true, but that's not obviously any of your faults
and your friend sucks. And also maybe just be a
little bit more wary about, you know, who you're friends with.
If you notice that your friend is like a serial cheater,
cheats on his wife who's now passed away. Maybe not
the best person to be friends with, you know.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
And your wife two betrayals, wacky best friends with wife cheater.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
But there is a little bit left. Then, Sue's sister
called Sue, had suffered a stroke. She's almost completely immobile
on her left side and can barely speak. I can't
describe how devastating it was to hear let alone, how
crushed I felt visiting her. He looked nothing like the
person I knew, and would cry whenever she saw me.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
That is an insane turn of events.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Wow, that's really tough. Part is feeling like this is
my fault, which is not. People say it isn't, but
I sense hostility from her family when I speak to them.
Her aunt cursed me out in front of everyone, and
they just asked me to leave it alone and move
on with my life. That's ridiculous, Like I understand they
are hurting, They're clearly very worried about their daughter. But

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to blame you, they're you know, projecting because she cheated.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Is you didn't bang your best friend, she wouldn't have
been in a position to be worked up enough to
the point where she had a stroke.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
I want to move on, but it hurts knowing how
everything turned out. I haven't spoken to Sue since the stroke,
and her family won't let me see her because apparently
I caused her stress.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Whatever.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
I don't know the full details because I don't have
the right to know anymore. I can't seem to catch
a break and that is the end of that story.
But uh Obi, it is not your fault. She caused
her own stress by cheating on you, and that is
a really difficult situation to be in. At the end
of the day, the best thing for you is to

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leave her.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
That's all you can do is try to move on. Yep,
my wife cheated on me after I build her dream home. Ungrateful,
married seventeen years with no children of our own. She's
been divorced once and had two daughters that I helped raise,
who are now twenty eight and twenty three. You've always
had open communication and what I felt was a great
connection with a fulfilling, spicy sleep life. I work in

(16:23):
the medical field and have been putting in overtime over
the past five months. She works in legal consultancy from home.
And by the way, this comes from a deleted user
and if you want to submit your own stories, go
to the r slash okay storytime subreddit. Last night I
changed the filter on our bedroom fan and asked my
wife if I could use your phone to update the

(16:43):
app since mine was charging. Your bedroom fan has an app? Yeah,
where did we go wrong? There's an app for everything? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:50):
People got app the life you don't see.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Like the lights with a house app? And maybe it
like have you seen those things? Now?

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Never mind? I was thinking, like the ceiling mounted bathroom fan,
bedroom fan.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Oh no, he's sick, sick.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Oh man.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
I noticed she had put on a pattern unlock, which
seemed odd. As I was finding the app, a snapchat
notification popped up that made my stomach drop. Quote, I'll
bring this special toy.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Oh maybe you should talk about the switch. Maybe they're
just gonna play some spash bros.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Oh they're gonna smash my brain. Understood the words, but
my mind just stopped functioning. Oh, she asked, what was
the matter, after several minutes of me staring at the fan.
My wife has quarterly out of town meetings that put
her two states away for five days, and I knew
this was about her upcoming trip Monday. I've read hundreds
of stories like this on Reddit and never thought I'd

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be sitting on my bedroom floor in such a cold,
dumbfounded state. I recovered and said, I was just getting
info about the router. She had logged into Facebook on
my chromebook yesterday. I took a week's vacation on short
notice and have been up all night reading her chats.
I logged onto Verizon's message system under her number and
found at least fifteen thousand messages dating back to February

(18:07):
of last year.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
What. I don't even text that much.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Fifteen thousand messages?

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Maybe it was supposed to be fifteen hundred.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Fifteen thousand messages, I hope.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
So fifteen hundred makes a little bit more sense.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
That's like, fifteen thousand is like, how could you not notice.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Fifteen Wait, hold on.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
I'll get you fifteen thousand. There's fifteen thousand.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Fifteen thousand, forty one texts a day.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Okay, text Actually I don't even text Carly that much
like forty one a day a day.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Y'all need to text your girlfriends more. Okay, it texts
me fifteen thousand texts a day of what just letters?

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Is code?

Speaker 2 (18:48):
All of your texts. I've been separated by letters.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
By letters, my messages one letter at a time, like
a maniac, different fonts and little emoji. You read it
top to bottom.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Nope, you should do it from bottom to the top
and ease.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
She stopped using Verizon messages about three months ago and
switched to Snapchat because it's more discreet. It's a younger
man from work who is married with three young children.
I've met him twice and shook his hand. I'm at
a complete loss and have paced my house that I
custom built for her for hours. I almost can't feel

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anything except white hot rage. I logged onto Snapchat and
there it all was. They're all the pictures of them together. Intimately,
she said terrible things about me, told him my insecurities,
and told him I love you. This feels like a
purely spicy relationship, which somehow makes it both better and worse.

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I don't know her saying I love you classifies as
purely spicy. She's literally throwing our life away over this.
Knowing cheating is an absolute deal breaker for me. I
called my best friend, who recommended a lawyer. I plan
on recording and saving everything. His wife accepted my friend request,

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and I'm debating sending everything.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Now.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
I'm seething and just want to inflict pain. At this point,
I feel eviscerated, emasculated. I found the special toy already
packed in her carry on. It's a remote controlled and
also has an app. We are truly we have lost
God's life.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Have you too many apps?

Speaker 3 (20:31):
There's there's worse apps out there.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
I'm getting sick.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
App.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Is there an app to make me not sick?

Speaker 2 (20:39):
No?

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Probably?

Speaker 1 (20:40):
I wish doc?

Speaker 2 (20:43):
This is doc doc God.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Now, what are your thoughts? Guys?

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Oh man, I don't know. Let's get into the update.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
My thought is, divorce your wife.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yes, she's cheating on you, pretty pretty cut and dry.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
My response is move in absolute silence and then drop
the equivalent of eighteen million metric tons of TNT on
this relationship. Oh and you know, we wish the children well,
I think that's all we do. We wish the children.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Well, I think we confront her and divorce. Well, first
you get a lawyer, and then you figure out what
you can do, and then you go and say, I
know you're cheating.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Here's here's the papers, hide her toy. Yeah, what make
her go crazy?

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Anyway, let's get into this update.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Put all of her belongings in the shower, because she's disgusting.
I met with the lawyer who told me to forget
any Hollywood style confrontation. She said there are two routes,
contested or non contested divorce. I would have to notify
my wife that I've retained counsel. My wife came home
around seven thirty. I asked if there was anything she

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wanted to talk about. She said nothing other than the election.
When she asked what was bothering me, I said I
was curious why she had a remote control buzz buzz
in her luggage. The look on her face was more
telling than anything I've ever seen. She looked panicked, pale,
and began breathing faster and sweating. As I pulled out

(22:13):
my three file folders of text exchanges, I asked if
the other man's wife would have the app to control it.
Bride and pleaded that she could explain.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Ah, we're so used to that.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
I don't want to hear your explanations. They're all the same.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
I want to hear it. I just want to see it.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
They just try, Yeah, tru see by your best.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
I mean, we already know we're divorcing, but I just
want to see you like I want to see you.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Try abducteds and they installed a mind control device. Remember
research on how to pro create?

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Remember the like The most far fetched one was the
one where she got like hypno hypnotized. Yeah I was,
I was hypnotized.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
You hypnotized? Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
I don't. I don't want to hear your explanation.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Just see how out of pocket the let's see it.
I said she had five minutes to do it.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Okay, so he's given, he's given the top.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
And of course she couldn't do it.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
She didn't have a tight five answer.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
You have a tight five ready for that, bab I
told her what my attorney instructed me to say and
told her to leave. She screamed it was her house too.
I calmly told her I would be notifying everyone about
her affair, including the girls, or she could leave now.
I pulled up Facebook and showed her the other man's wife,
through tears and pleading with I love you, and it
wasn't supposed to go this far, and my favorite, you

(23:30):
can't do this. I sent the other man's wife a
message with their entire file. I leafed through the papers
and started reading random excerpts out loud. She kept sobbing
and asking to talk about us, saying our marriage could
withstand her mistake. I told her I would never forgive her.
Her word meant nothing, and that she threw away the
last seventeen years and the house told her not to

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come back after her trip.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, go go meet your guy and you can stay
there with them.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Pike your toy with you new husband.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
You got a new one.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
You had your toy.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
I'm sending friend requests to everyone and sharing the evidence.
I'm going to wait until morning to call the girls.
I raised them from age eleven and six and they're
women now. I don't know what to tell them. Update
number two.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
I don't know. I'm I don't know because I feel
like I feel like the other man's wife was one thing,
but you yeah to tell your daughters like this, well,
just even sending a friend request to everybody.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
I think it's a little like twenty eight and twenty three.
They think maybe they can be told.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
I don't know that the daughters can be told, I
think again. But what he's doing is, yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
He's sending it everywhere. I'm sending it up Like how
you tell them.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Well, they're gonna it's gonna be like, hey, girls, just
want to let you know I'm leaving your mother. She
cheated on me.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
That's fine. Yeah, I think telling the girl, like the
people that are relevant relevant to this, Yeah, not just
like all right, I'm gonna go on social media and
just yeah, we don't all.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Send it everywhere just for your sake, Yeah, because you're
not gonna want to deal.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
With ever being like lawyer, dragging more people in the
way is just gonna Yeah, you don't want If you
want more attention to it all to you.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
But but you have to deal with that attention.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
So exactly, I'm going to give deeper background. I went
to college in Las Vegas in the mid nineties and
graduated in nineteen ninety nine with a nursing degree. Yeah, Okay,
that's some deep background. I had decided never to marry
and definitely did not want children. When I moved to
Texas in two thousand and one to pursue my master's degree,
I met my soon to be ex wife. She was

(25:22):
a divorced mother of two girls. We dated for about
two years. She sat me down and gave me a
pragmatic talk about needing to either get married or move on.
Two weeks later, I got acceptance letter to a medical
school two hours away. I was ecstatic and crushed at
the same time, realizing I'd never see her or the girls,
and considering the seven year process ahead with loans and debt,

(25:42):
I declined medical school and switched to a master's in
nursing administration. We got married in July two thousand and three.
My parents have always been standoffish with my wife. When
I told them what was happening, they said they felt
she was damaged goods and had forced me to compromise.
That really hit home on Saturday morning, Day two, after

(26:03):
Discovery was making breakfast. When she walked into the kitchen,
she asked if I would make her some. I threw
it into the trash in front of her dang, which
is honestly there, but I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
She's asking you for food, she's asking you to do
something for her.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
No, it's like, Oh, your food's right there, it's where
you belong.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Just dump it on the floor.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
You can go get it.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
I proceeded to play music from my youth at an
uncomfortable volume to prevent her from trying to talk to me.
She approached asking what purpose notifying the other man's wife.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Served she knows that she's being cheated on.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
A lady, She's blown from stupid town.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
You crazy.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
I told her that at least she would get the
chance to make an informed decision about her future instead
of compromising for someone who would betray her so selfishly.
She sat down and began sobbing. I told her I
was so numb that I would cry. Later, when I
was done doing what needs to be done, I found
her company's HR paper and called their corporate compliance line.

(27:02):
They had discussed client information with protected health information using
unsecured messaging systems. She was also his supervisor on projects.
During the time of the spicily inappropriate message. They both
used company phones to transmit inappropriate materials. Sunday, Day three,
I drove to see the girls. I told them point

(27:22):
blank about the situation and that their mother would probably
be moving in the next three to six months. I
told them everything. They were disappointed in her. I explained
that if they decided they didn't want a relationship with me,
that was okay, but it shouldn't interfere with their relationship
with my parents. They agreed to keep in touch with
their grandparents. Monday, Day four, I arrived home to find

(27:45):
her car still there. She had called in sick and
didn't leave for her quarterly meeting. She tried talking about
how much she loved me, and I laughed, realizing it
had a manic feel that took me aback, but I
told her she loved me so much she had a
year and a half of fear behind my back. I
pulled out the bottle an eighteen year Glenn Fittitch, my

(28:05):
grandfather bought for us when we got married. It was
our tradition to have a small sip on our anniversary.
I chugged the remainder. Okay, that was Hey, that's just
a waste of good scotch.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Buddy, Hope he's really going through it right now. Clearly,
I think if you can get therapy.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
I went to the bedroom and began pulling all pictures
with us in them off of the wall. My attorney
called to notify me the divorce petition was ready. I
signed and sent it while very buzzed on Premium Scotch.
I also got a message from the other man's wife
reluctantly thanking me for this horrible but good revelation. She
found text and videos with other women besides my wife. Uhh,

(28:44):
she kicked him out and was going to an attorney.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, I mean good that you told her. Yeah, now
she knows, but yeah, wow, your wife sucks.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
And so does he whose day. Day five therapy was
a two and a half hour session. My wife had
followed me there. I told her I was getting this
therapy for the emotional trauma of realizing I had thrown
away most of my life on someone who couldn't even
give me a reason why she cheated. My therapist saw
the exchange where I called her horrible names and told
her I wished her nothing but bad things. We discussed

(29:14):
my anger, betrayal, emasculation, and fear of the future. He
started explaining that instead of asking why, I should ask
what within herself gave her permission to do this to me.
I met with my hospital administration and formally gave my
six weeks resignation. I couldn't concentrate on make or break
issues in my current state of mind. I decided to
move away, far away, far far away. I am now

(29:38):
a character in Shrek Your Donkey. Wednesday, Day six, I
woke up with her curled next to me, disgusting. I've
been working on my resume and getting applications out. I
might be working in Seattle by the end of the year.
I can't stay in this city. Thought of running into
her after this is over is unbearable. My wife has
been going to the library reading relationship book Bok. You

(30:00):
got a call from work about a meeting, despite claiming
to be sick. I eavesdropped and knew it was about
the HR complaint. Thursday, day seven, she told me her
meeting was with HR and would probably be bad if
he asked what she could do to make us equal again,
I said nothing.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Build me a house, go back.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
In time and tell me not to date you and
marry you, and let me go to medical school to
be a doctor.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Build me a house, don't cheat on me. Ah, good
luck with that.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
But other than that you kind of screwed.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
She offered an open marriage. On my end, I said no,
because I don't trust her, and also why what is
what kind of solution is that I wanted to be
married to my wife who was loyal and dedicated to
me and wouldn't betray me. No matter how many people
I bang outside of our marriage.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Change anything, this marriage is still esthetic to offer that.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
It's so drives me crazy.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
I love how she's like, we can do open marriage.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
You've already opened the marriagecause it just fundamentally goes to
shows like why did you even want to get married?
So you think that just marriage is like a punishment.
It's like a roadblock, and that okay, I'll let you
have the treat I'll let you have the carrot on
the stick, that is, you can go have other women.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, it's like you want the marriage, doesn't want to
You would the.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
One who sat him down and said, look, we either
have to get married or move on. And now you
say that after you get caught cheating. You're absurd. I
asked what I did that made her so unhappy that
she did this? She said, I was beyond great. She
said it was an adventure. I think she lived off
the rush. What didn't realize until too late that everyone

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would be hurt.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
You're not in the hobbit. You cheating on your partner
isn't an adventure.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
I'm going on an advent. That's what she calls her
toy and her boy.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yikes, yikes, we have a volcano available for her, No
lovely volcano with a volcano.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Just divorce papers, just a horse.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Papers, picturesque slopes of Mount Doom. There was a little nook,
maybe even a cranny for you to slither into. When
I got home from therapy, she told me she was
fired for breach of protocol, and the other man was
fired as well. She told me she had no contact
with him in five days.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Oh, that makes up for it, just like a five
whole days. That makes up for the fifteen how many
thousand messages? Fifteen? I was gonna say fifteen hundred, fifteen thousands.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
I asked, why hadn't she contacted him since they were
both free now. She said I was the only one
she wanted. Too late, I said she had all of me,
and it still wasn't enough. I told her about all
the compromises I made declining medical school to get married,
not wanting children, but accepting hers. I made those compromises

(32:51):
for our love, but obviously I had misplaced my trust.
I told her I would never love her again, and
that at best I would treat her like a spicy
sleep toy. I said, it was just a week ago.
She was the first person I thought of when I
woke up in the last when I went to sleep.
Now it hurts too much to think about her. And
there's been a third update.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah, well, there's no way that you can save this relationship,
no matter what she says. But yeah, I think that
to keep going to therapy if you can, you know,
reach out to the people that you know support you,
maybe your daughter's obviously that's a little complicated, but it
seems like they're on your side.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
It's been five weeks since discovery. I moved out about
three days after my last update. My ex wife constantly
texts and leaves notes on my apartment door and car.
My therapist has complimented me on my progress managing the anger, despair,
and depression. She was served divorce papers the first week
of October. The love bombing and attempted covering has been
borderline psychotic. The earliest hearing is maybe January. I had

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two unexpected surprises though. My stepdaughters came to visit me.
My oldest had always carried a chip on her shoulder
about me, and it turns out their assumptions about me
were incorrect. They thought I was the on again, off
again guy their mother had been with before me, not
realizing I came later. Their father had spent years talking
badly about their mother for cheating, but never disclosed he

(34:09):
had cheated. First, my oldest stepdaughter apologized and asked for forgiveness.
Just a little bit more story. Yeah, I think I
accept the apology of my stepdaughters and I just move on. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
I think with the step daughters, that's a little bit
of complicated the situation for them. But it seems like they,
you know, really love you and don't support their mom in.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
The because he did raise them.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah. He said he raised them from like six or eleven.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
To like eleven and six, Yes, six.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
And eleven, Like you're their dad, and they're in their
late twenties.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Now, twenty eight, twenty three.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah, that's like you're their dad at that point.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
The second surprise was a coworker who found out about
my pending divorce. After insisting on taking me out for
a drink, she told me she had no intention of
being with me forever, but just wanted to try me on.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Huhuh to stop talking.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
No, this is a coworker, I know. Oh stuff, I
don't know. Sometimes the best way to get.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
She never had it. She just wanted to try you on.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Hey, sometimes the best way to get over somebody is
get on top of somebody.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
I'm wait what, I'm confused. She's saying that OPI's ex
wife just wanted to know.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
This is this is a coworker of op She's.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Sitting down proposal.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Oh okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Like I feel it's like it's like a little pity.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
I see, I see she's saying. I don't I'm not interested.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
She's shooting her shot.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Just want to try What are you talking about it?
You're like, no, no talking to anyone, be alone forever.
That your anger until you become a seamore.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
I guess sure somebody shot the shot and told him
like straight up, like, hey, we're adults, and like I thought,
I don't want to do this for you.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
She I don't know why I thought she said that
Opie's wife. I was like, what, how did you know
that this is.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Just a friend.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Oh, she's just a try on, all right, Sure, I
guess she's been spending nights a couple of times a
week and it's something I've enjoyed.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah, she even helped me pack and drove me to
the airport from my interview in Seattle, which I crushed.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
That's a good friend.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
My lawyer said. There is no alimony in our state,
but infidelity with proof effects asset division probably seventy thirty
in my favor. Nice. The house sale will be substantial,
not enough to justify seventeen years down the drain. But
I'm contemplating a three month European tour. I'm feeling again
and it's been fairly positive. I'm not in the best place,

(36:27):
but definitely not as bad as I could be. And
that is the end.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
And that's all you can ask for.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Of that story. Yeah, I agree, not at.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
The best place, but as well as you can be.
Good luck getting to a better place. I suppose you'll
find someone better and maybe you know also be careful
about it doesn't seem like you're rushing into a relationship,
but don't do that.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Enjoy You have seventeen years to be single. Just do
you and some people that you want to do and
have fun. Yeah, you're going to go on that European
tour and just enjoy yourself, enjoy life, do some stuff.

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Speaker 2 (37:10):
I want my ex off my mortgage now. Yeah, bigger
warning for mentions of self harm. I am a twenty
five female living in UK and my ex is a
thirty male. We have been together for five years up
until last week when he suddenly told me he didn't
love me anymore, didn't want to be with me, and
could never marry someone like me.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Wow eight thanks cheek?

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Oh is he three a crisis? I was shocked, confused, heartbroken,
upset and angry, all emotions I didn't know I could
feel at once.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
At least he's honest, a love too honest, love too.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Maybe a little too much.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Honestly, considering that the same day, hours before, he was
cuddling me in bed and giving me kisses I feel
like there's got to have been something that happened. Either
he's been like, you know, holding this in for a while,
or something else happened that made him spook. By the way,
this comes from Sammy Norbag And if you want to
submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay

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storytime severed it and we'll try to give our best advice.
But we haven't experienced most of these situations ourselves, so
if you have, let us know what you would do.
In the comments, and Op says, we bought a house
together four years ago. You bought a house one year
into the relationship.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
That seems a little quick.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Also, how did you have the money for that? Oh,
he was twenty one at the time, you like twenty four.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
I would bet it has something to do with bitcoin,
or familial connections or they build houses.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
And I was all too happy that we finally had
our home. We were going to get animals, do the
house up, decorate, all of which would cost many He
reinforced this by telling me it would cause money and
convince me to get a credit card, something I never
had before, but stupidly went along with because he had
won and convinced me it would be necessary. I mean,

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you should have a credit card.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
No, I'm not even I'm laughing at what about commenters
can find?

Speaker 2 (39:02):
No, I know, but I'm talking about waybe I've got
I've got shorts on guys, but.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Will say that I'm talking.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
To cut a huts. Why did I feel like twenty
one is you're old enough to have had a credit card?
I think it's you know, obviously he's up to no good.
But I don't think it's it's it is necessary. You
should have a credit card.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
You should have an understanding of how credit works.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, you should be building your credit. I don't understand
how you're buying a house without a credit card or.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Credit probably lots of money.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Well, I'm just wondering where they're getting all this money,
because it doesn't If he's saying we need to get
a credit card to buy all this stuff, then they
clearly don't have the money to buy buy a house outright.
How is there credit work? He's only twenty he was
twenty five.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah, I don't think you need credit to be a
blockchain billionaire.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
You need credit to buy.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Home, not if you just can prove honestly though, it's
not if you if you can prove an absurd amount
of liquid assets.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Absolutely, I doubt A twenty one year old and a
twenty four.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Year old, Yes, those are That is the age bracket
of the crypto billionaire.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
What I didn't know was this was his plan. He
put more of a deposit on the house, and we
agreed that as he earned more, he would pay more
towards the bills, so I didn't feel any pressure. This
was a false promise, as it quickly turned to all
the bills being split fifty to fifty. At the time,
my monthly income was about eleven hundred pounds, and I

(40:35):
was spending about eight hundred pounds to pay my share
of the bills, barely leaving enough money for my own
personal bills and definitely not enough for myself. Okay, so
he's saying we're to split a fifty to fifty. Oh,
he's making eleven hundred pounds, spending eight hundred on all
of the hospells.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Oh, PE's spending more than How are you two thirds
of their paycheck on rent?

Speaker 2 (40:56):
How are you affording this house? I was naive and
love and thought he loved me too. I had about
three thousand pounds of cash and savings from birthdays, christmases,
et cetera, and stupidly told him about it. He made
dang sure that whenever we went out to buy things
for the house to say make sure you bring your cash,
and then at the checkout would say, you use your

(41:18):
cash and I'll pay you back half when I get paid.
I never saw his half of the payments and quickly
ran out of my savings on the promise that he
would give me his half. Upon moving in, My parents
as a gift bought us a king sized bed, sofa
set and paid to do up our kitchen and bathroom
after there was.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Come on, the parents have to be rich.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
I mean they must be. That does sound it, But like, yeah,
Lou says, eleven hundred is so little. Maybe I'm just
thinking like LA housing, But like I just can't imagine,
even in the UK, that there is a house that
you like. How are you? How did you buy a house? Outright?

Speaker 1 (41:56):
I'm going to the average stuff.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
I'm gonna look up the average out of a house
in the UK compared to LA. How about that?

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Yeah? With me panicking as I couldn't afford to fix
the bathroom, my parents went into their pocket to help
their daughter and where was he certainly not reaching into
his savings anytime soon. In total, my parents put about
fifteen K into our house as a gift and out
of necessity. Why did you buy this house to have

(42:23):
Why did you buy this house have a house?

Speaker 1 (42:26):
I don't understand it is it is weird that it
really doesn't feel like y'all were a team on any
level really just on a word level. Y'all were like
on the same team, but it had never tested. Y'all
didn't field test.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
I hope he was twenty and he was twenty five
when they first started dating.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
And then okay, so so not a CAC guy says
in some parts of the UK can buy a house
for under one hundred K.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
But there's no way that she has one hundred K.
She said she had three thousand pounds of money and
in K says with the legal money rich girlfriend. But
like it doesn't even seem like they have. I'm just
confused because like they have never unless so he doesn't
know about any of that, and he's fronting all of
this like substance money. We know that the parents put

(43:13):
in fifteen K, so maybe they put in more money
for the house, but like, I'm just confused why they
would front that money to their Like if I went
to my parents at twenty and said, I'm moving in
with this guy, this twenty five year old, and we're
gonna buy a house, but we also don't have the money,
so can you front this money? They'd say, no, we're
not helping you buy a house that you can't afford.

(43:33):
So I'm just confused why they did this, uh, or
why your parents are on board for this and helping
you front that money. It quickly became a parent that
I was not a girlfriend but more of a personal housekeeper.
I did the cleaning, cooking, et cetera, while he lay
on the sofa watching TV or playing video games with
his friends. After promising a night of watching a movie together,

(43:53):
he would suddenly say that his friend texted him to
hang out, so that's what he do. He would ask
me to drive him there and to pick him up
later on as he was going to be drinking. So
I was not only a housekeeper but also a taxi service.
I started to get sick of this lifestyle as it
no longer felt like a relationship. He hounded me for
money one day and made me feel guilty that I

(44:15):
didn't have it. I went to see my mom and
ended up getting really upset. She told me to address
it sooner rather than later. I approached him to talk
about things and said that if we couldn't sort out
our situation, then we would have to sell the house
in part ways. He started hyperventilating and asking me not
to leave, saying he was so scared if I left

(44:35):
that he'd have nothing else. So I stayed. Going to
fast forward to twenty twenty three, he was made redundant
from his job and a month later got a new job,
and he would come home from work beaming and telling
me how the manager said that him and this girl
he worked with made such a great team and really connected. No,
so now now I's going to cheat on you after

(44:55):
you've been taking care of this entire house and also
freaking paid to fail parents paid to fix up this house.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Honestly, the moment I hear the but if you leave me,
I'll have nothing good, I'd say, but it's only up
from there.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
But then you got nothing to lose.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
I'm a cowboy up Bootstrap City. Wow, your name is
Bill Turner, I mean Will Turner or no it's Bill Turner.
I need to sleep.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah, I really think. Op, next time, don't buy a
house with a person you've known I just for a year,
and that you can't afford.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
I'm giving not the benefit of a doubt for othpee.
But again, ohp he's young.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
That's the thing. Oh he's very young, very young, very young.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Get it.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Got into a relationship pretty quick.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
If nothing without you, then they need to become something. Yeah,
without on their own.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
I'm not proud, but I am the jealous type. If
I have a gut feeling that something isn't right, my
gut is always spot on quickly. The friendship between him
and his colleague group every night after coming home from work,
I was cast aside and he went on to discord
to play a game.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
So there you go see, shored strap bailed Tana.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
The day I drew a line was when he said
that he had organized a day out for the pair
of them doing his favorite hobbies, but I was not
invited as it would just be the two of them.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
This is hey, y y, and we were not cool
with this, right he yea yeah, please tell me we
were not cool with that?

Speaker 2 (46:23):
I said, I wasn't comfortable and he guilted me saying
that he told me where they were going, so he
wasn't trying to be sneaky, and also said I should
be more understanding as her mother is cancer and he
lost a brother to cancer years ago. What is there
to understand there?

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Y'all can join a support group. What are you talking about?
What y'all have shared experience?

Speaker 2 (46:42):
No way, Tons of people have shared experience. But when
I found out a couple of months prior that my
dad had cancer and I was crying on the sofa,
he came in and said, why are you being so
hysterical to now? You can't bond with op big mom?
With other girl?

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Is this?

Speaker 2 (46:56):
That?

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Is this? The uh? The song too perfect?

Speaker 2 (47:00):
I don't know that's one, it's the other. Maybe I'm
kuper big, I'll do that.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
I'm not. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Even when my mother tried to commit to self harm
in twenty twenty one and I went on antidepressants, he
would constantly say, it'll be okay, try to forget about it.
Probably his take on monetary issues too.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Forget about it, Yeah, we can't afford this out.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Forget about it. Let's just put it on the credit card.
Forget about it no words of comfort and no words
of sympathy. If I tried to talk about my problems,
he would suddenly switch the conversation to something about him.
He dominated conversations between me and my best friend, sometimes
taking over the whole thing as if I wasn't there.
He suddenly started losing weight quickly. He bought designer clothes

(47:45):
at around three hundred pounds a shop, a one forty
pound pair of trainers, and completely changed his hairstyle. I
wonder who's doing that for. Also, why are we spending
hundreds of pounds on clothes when you can't afford to
freaking pay to fix up the house that you bought?

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Give me back my money, Remember that money I paid.
Give me the back that half the money that paid
me back. Give paid me back my half. Chief.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
I knew deep down something was wrong, and he started
staying later at the office to catch.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Up with the team.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Sure, you are catching up with the team.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Yeah, you're probably catching some kind of illness.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
I stupidly took him at face value until I realized
he had made a hidden channel on discord for him
and his colleague to go into knowing full well that
I couldn't join it or see it. Going forward to
the events of last week, we had a good day,
went out, cudd old, kissed the stuff we'd done before
he got the new job, and then suddenly that night

(48:42):
he said that he doesn't love me anymore, but then
wouldn't go to bed unless I was going to join
him in the bed.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
He's his s Teddy bear.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
This is this is the flip Flop song. This is
Messy by Lola Young, So it's like his I'm so
perfect and then you tell me that you freaking hate me,
and then you don't love me anymore, but then you
still want me to sleep in the bed. Those aren't
the lyrics of the song, but it's but they could be.
They could They fit right in.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Still very confused by the whole situation, my sister came
by the house the next day for moral support, as
did his brother. I went for a walk to clear
my head and think about what I wanted to say.
But little did I know that while I was gone,
he was fabricating stories to my sister and brother, saying
I was an aggressive drinker and self harming all the time.

(49:27):
If anyone here takes sir Telene, you know you're not
supposed to drink on it, and I certainly did not
enjoy the effects the first time, I ignored the advice.
After this, I maybe would have had one or two
siders with the odd meal on occasions, but that was all.
And I will admit that I self harmed occasionally. I
hadn't for ten years until he started behaving oddly around me.

(49:48):
Even then, my emotions would overwhelm me and I would
do it to ground myself. Again, never extensively.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Okay, well, definitely don't don't do that relationship.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Don't do that OPA like washing you to that you
got to leave this relationship, and too, like, definitely go
to therapy because I feel like you're trying to justify it.
You know, you're still not in a good place and
you need help. When I came back from my walk,
we sat down to discuss things and he informed me
that he was moving to his sisters for a while.
So after packing some bags, he left. I felt like

(50:20):
a weight lifted slightly until the next day. My mother
packed the rest of his things to prevent him being
in the house and around me for prolonged periods, But
whenever mother and his friend were out of earshot, he
started threatening me with solicitors and then being nice at
PIE when they came back. Recently, I found out that
he has been telling lies for weeks about me and

(50:41):
still is. He tried to turn my best friend against
me by saying that he's been unhappy in the relationship
for a while and has tried to break up with
me multiple times but can't. As I tell him that
I'd done alive myself if he left, and then said
that I would proceed to self harm in front of him,
my best friend started to pity him and turn again,
as he was very convincing. He's told several people that

(51:04):
I'm an aggressive drinker, told his family in closest friends
that I forced him out of the house because he
felt wrapped by my anxieties and threatening to unlive myself
if he left. He's also said that my anger issues
made him scared to come home from work. The thing
is he worked from home mainly and was never scared
of me, considering he towers over me and loved to

(51:25):
practice mixed martial arts on me. What I think, hopefully
you mean that in like a not bad way, like, oh,
like you guys would wrestle or something.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
They're just both yoked MMA fighters.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
He's been threatening me with solicitor action if I don't
agree to sell the house. I don't want to sell
the house, as i'd have nowhere else to go. Unfortunately,
I can't even move back in with my parents. He
said I'd need to buy him out then, and he
wants his to pause it back, which is thirteen thousand pounds.
Originally I put down a deposit of ten thousand, but

(51:57):
looking around the house and packing up his moving van
load of stuff personal items, I have very little of.
Most of my money was used for the house and
brings the total amount that I put into the house
to about thirty thousand pounds UH, including my parents' contribution.
He said that the money myself and my parents put
in doesn't matter, as it was for him too. He's

(52:18):
been making my life a living heck since with acting
up in front of people like a torn man and
then approaching and threatening me with legal action, not caring
that I would be homeless with numerous animals. The reason
I write this is because I know I'll not be
able to move on and recover unless I get his
name off the mortgage so he no longer is tied

(52:38):
to me, I was being too generous with what he
could take from the house until I found out that
he's been painting me in the wrong to everyone else.
But there is a little bit left to this story.
Any final thoughts lawyer, yeah, lawyer.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Lawyer, lawyer, lawyer, lawyer, lawyer, lawyer.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Lawyer, yes, lawyer. But also be very careful about your
next relationship, because it seems like you know, you were
twenty year young, got into this relationship, moved a little
bit oh too quick, just for your next one. Don't
rush into buying a home with someone that you've only
been into a relationship with for a year. Don't let
people convince you of how to spend your money if

(53:14):
you don't think that's wise.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Did also, yeah, did Opie say, I don't remember a recall.
Did Opie say she lived with him prior to this
or they just moved like they bought the house.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
They bought the house a year into the relationship.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
But did they say did she say, like, oh, we
lived together like a couple months?

Speaker 2 (53:32):
I don't even I don't think so, because that's yeah,
that's like a real like they hadn't even lived together first.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Because that's a huge thing like to get in like
there's one staying with your partner, but like living with
your partner, that's when they you see their true colors
and which we've got.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
It's like it's like level, it's it's being with a partner. Yeah,
for a year, living with a partner, buying a house
with a partner, like getting her pet and getting a pet,
like these are all like huge steps and it seems
like they they rushed into all.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
They jumped to the very last step or like one
of the last steps, and they have pets. Yeah, oh man.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
But there is a little bit left to this story
record everything, as Dutchess Cassanda says, has anyone experienced similar?
Does anyone know of legal way to get him off
the mortgage without paying him the full thirteen K as
I don't think he is a title to the full
amount and definitely does not deserve it either, as he
got me to use my credit cards, running myself into

(54:25):
debts while he enjoyed letting me know how much in
savings he had and was going to look at getting
himself a new car. I am out of debt now
and starting to gain some savings back, but I just
need him out of my life and off the mortgage
without losing a full thirteen K if possible. Any help
and advice is greatly appreciated, and there is no more

(54:46):
to that story.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
That is the end of that story.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Dang, good luck, O peep. Yeah, honestly, you might have
to sue. You might have to get a lawyer for this.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Not definitely sue.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Yeah, one hundred percent lawyer, one hundred percent record, Yeah,
one hundred percent leave, Yes, one hundred percent new life.
What's the type of situation that would make me just
be like, I'm gonna disappear. I need to start over
to like Luxembourg. Hey it's Sam. We'll get back to
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Speaker 2 (55:17):
My father cheated with twelve different women and expected my
mother to pay for it.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Well, she definitely paid for it emotionally.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
And this comes directly from the Okay subreddit. No, my
thirty female dad fifty eight male has cheated on my
mom fifty six female multiple times throughout their marriage. He's
now fathered almost twelve children. I'm number seven. Only two
of us are my mom's and he just got my
little sister's mom pregnant again, by the way, this comes

(55:48):
from series automatic five one seven zero. And if you
want to smit your own stories, go to the r
slash Okay storytime, separate it and we'll try to give
our best advice. But we haven't experienced most of these
situations ourselves, so if you have, let us know what
you would do in the comments and op says. Growing up,
my mom was basically a single parent. He worked twelve
hour shifts, seven days a week to provide for us

(56:11):
while my dad was out cheating. I always said she
was both the queen and the king in our home
because she carried the weight of everything. My dad didn't
help raise us or support the household in any meaningful way.
Because of this, my childhood was far from normal. I
worked four jobs as a teenager to help keep the
family afloat. My older brother ended up on the streets

(56:31):
doing things that eventually landed him incarcerated. We sacrificed and
struggled because my dad chose himself over his family. There
was a brief period where my dad gave his life
to Christ and we thought things had changed, but when
my mom developed medical issues, he backslid. He started disappearing,
stopped helping and went back to his old ways. My

(56:52):
mom funded the house in our home country, and my
dad already owes her over ten thousand dollars. Despite this,
he recently ask my mom for money to come home.
He sent him money, but he blew it on dates
and dinners with the woman he cheated with. When I
learned that my dad got someone younger than me pregnant,
I got really angry. I told him it made me uncomfortable.

(57:14):
His response, I had need.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
I was hungry.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
What do you expect me to do?

Speaker 3 (57:20):
He was hungry? Feed me seymore bro, I was hungry.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
You don't understand.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Yeah, at that point, I'd be like cutting cutting dad off.
That shattered any last outs of respect I had. Not
only did he betray my mom, but his actions re
traumatize me in ways he'll never understand.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Is this, Frankallagher, that's crazy? Oh okay, Billy time, Okay,
Billy time, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
This is actually shameless.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Wow. I just think sometimes you gotta cut your losses
with people.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
I think if your dad is like this, takes no accountability,
continues to behave in this manner, I yeah, I don't think,
like if you just can't respect it. I don't know
if there's a relationship to be had with him right now.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
It's really tough though, and this is one of our owns.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Yeah, you know, I understand the feeling of wanting to
being sad about losing that relationship and stuff, but I
think that like putting up boundaries for your own sake is.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Important, very true.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
The disrespect, yeah, I mean, just to say that to you,
the whole thing of like, h I'm hungry. What was
I supposed to do that's so dispassed. When he asked
for more money, I snapped, I told him, you can
ask the women you cheated with for money to get
back home, not my mom.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Love that.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
I also said divorce papers would be waiting. That's when
things exploded for the first time ever. He cursed me out.
He said he's not the one to be messed with,
and I shot back, no, I'm not the one you
raised me to not be the one to mess with.
He claims he's the king and my mom needs to
no work place.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
I'm not the one.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
I reminded him that he was never the king. My
mom was the one who sacrificed, harried and provided. He
only drained her I also told him he taught me
exactly what kind of man I will never marry. So
am I wrong for telling my dad? Enough is enough
that if he can find his way into another woman's bed,
he can find his way home without leeching off my mom?

(59:16):
And you're very much not wrong.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
I told him what burn. He needed to hear that
you told him what bur.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
He seems not like a He's not the best guy.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
He's a scumbag, dude, And you don't know action like
a scumbag. He's behaving like a scumbag. He's a scumbag.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
But uh, that is the end of that story, folks.
These comments come from the video My parents are Stocking
Me twenty four to seven. This was posted on August
twenty sixth, twenty twenty five, and the TLDR is Opie's
parents gave him his first phone but made him share
his location twenty four to seven. He felt like a
prisoner and wanted to protest by wearing a faink ankle

(59:55):
monitor costume. Instead, he tried to give the phone back,
which made his parents parents really upset. Now his phone
is locked down so he can only call in text,
and his parents renamed it ankle monitor. In Find My
you learned that sometimes parents' rules aren't about trust, they're
about worry and safety. I remember this story and I did.
I Yeah, it was definitely like a sixteen year old move.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
So bomb dot Com twenty one sixty eighth had a comment,
what bothers me most about the first story? Bless you?
The first story is io OP, as far as we know,
has shown no indication that there's a behavioral issue that
would warrant the constant supervision. They've trusted OP up until
that point that they got them the phone, and now
suddenly they don't trust them enough to not have the

(01:00:40):
tracking app on it. My grandparents made it a condition
for me to keep my phone under their plan. I'm
nineteen and plan to switch to my dad's phone plan
until I can get my own to keep Life three
sixty on my phone, which didn't make sense to me
since they had me downloaded when I was seventeen and
had already established that I wasn't going anywhere unsafe and
that whenever I did leave the house, I checked in

(01:01:00):
with my family first. And it's still a condition until
I get on a different plan now that I'm an adult.
My question is just how far the line will be
drawn and why it was drawn to begin with.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Personally, my parents never gave me Life through sixty or
never personally sixer no, but also personally as a parent,
I don't think I would do that either. It was
the kind of where I was going with that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
However, I had a lot of friends when I was
growing up in high school who did whose parents did
make them put Life through Sixty on their phones, and
they weren't like kids that were going off partying, sneaking
out or anything.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
I do remember the story because I was talking about
we were talking about like how free we were as like, yeah, teenagers,
so yeah, I mean I.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Wasn't going anywhere, but like my friends, like they all
had you know, Life through Sixty on their kids' phones
and stuff or on their phones, and I think it
is kind of just a parent to parent thing. And unfortunately,
I think that when you parents are paying for your
phone plan, they do a little bit get a say
and what you know, goes on your phone fifteen kids. Yeah,

(01:02:03):
I think it's like it sucks and when you turn eighteen,
yeah they should they should not have it still on
your phone. But I think it is just kind of
really fight back gets your parents who are paying for
your phone plan.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
I remember we were having this conversation and it does suck,
but it's also you know, I did this as a
kid or as a teenager. I was like, I was
comparing my freedom compared to my friend's freedom where they
their parents were like, I have a phone, I can
go out and do this, I can do that, I
you know, And I was like, I don't get to
do that. Yeah, I'm like, sucks to suck. Yeah, I

(01:02:34):
was like, I was like, mom, Dad, could I do that? No?
Why not? Because we said so?

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Yeah, because we said so.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
I Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
Any other comment, Yes, another comment from Morgan Hunts thirty.
I was almost kidnapped three times. I was fifteen and
almost six feet tall. I had no phone and no
way of communicating or tracking.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
I'm sorry you were fifteen and almost six feet tall
and people were trying to kidnap you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Yeah, they were probably trying to kidab you to turn
you into an athlete.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Shit, it was it was like d one athlete scout.
To be clear, that's really dramatic and that's awful and
I'm so sorry that happened to you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
Were named scout Morgan Hunts also continues, it was in
multi millionaire homes and amazing neighborhoods. I was walking to
school a very short distance. It takes ten seconds and
you're gone forever. The police and FBI got involved. It
was the lower levels of a Oh it was a
trafficking ring.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Oh that's terrifying. Yes, I'm glad you're safe.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Yeah, thank goodness. And hopefully they got that, get all,
they got all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
So, and she continues, you should absolutely have tracking if
you're a kid out in the world. Later that month,
a middle school girl went missing. She was gone and
it was never solved, and once the FBI wasn't involved,
you never saw the same guys. Again, it's necessary, and
I think she also continues.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
I think a lot of times it's not dramatic. It's
not about necessarily not trusting your kids, but about not
trusting other people.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
And then she also continues, anyone who's completely against location
sharing should listen to more true crime. No, you don't
want to implement that, the true crime thing, but yeah,
at the end of the day, I think the reasoning
is safety and concern, which is one hundred percent I
agree with yeah, and there's you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Know, there's a balance. But but that's the end of those.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
Talments I think we have. Yeah, I mean that's that
we're good.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
And the end of this episode. So if you love us,
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