She PRETENDED to be my friend… then she framed me for theft! - r/charlottedobreyoutube | Reddit Stories - ok storytime

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
She pretended to be my friend. Then she framed me
for theft. Oh that quite, that's a good job. But
oh she gets a friendship. Go sometimes one minute friends,
one minute you're framed. I twenty four female at the time,
had been good acquaintances with my nail tech of over
four years. We'll call her Stacy thirty one female. In

(00:21):
the beginning of twenty twenty two, she offered for men
to move into her parents' old house with another client
of hers and split rent. I've been wanting to move
out for a while and thought it would be a
perfect opportunity as I would know my landlord to be
her brother that we will call Simon thirty five male.
By the way, this comes from Jenny ging on the
Okay storytime separate it. So, as I was a week

(00:42):
away from moving in, my mother passed away unexpectedly. Oh
that's so sad at twenty four Yeah, I was devastated
and had to take care of all of her assets
and my father within less than twenty four hours. It
was a rough beginning of the year, but Stacy was
there for me at first. She would always check in

(01:05):
on me and try to cheer me up with dinners
and hangouts. We were becoming close and I thought I
was making a friend for life at this point. Oh,
how wrong I was. Three months after my mother passed,
I had quit my job due to HR spreading rumors
about my usage of PTO for grief. Story for another day.
Oh my god. Wow, if you can't catch a break,

(01:26):
so much is happening. When I told Stacy, she offered
me a job at the nail salon as a receptionist. Oh.
I was excited to work at the place. I went
to relax for manny and petties and hang out with
my friend who would be my assistant manager. Things were
great at first, and I even started making new friendships
with others. I'm still close with many of them to

(01:46):
this day. But one of them, named Alice twenty six female,
was apparently going to be my new roommate in the fall,
as my previous roommate ended her lease early. Lots of
drama there too, I've got so many side stories. Yeah.
Alice and I began to hang out outside of work
so we could learn more about each other as we
were becoming roommates. Well, this made Stacy unhappy and she

(02:09):
began to stir drama She would tell me lies about
my coworkers, such as they talked bad about my weight,
judging my boyfriend, backstabbing each other. Stacy told me so
many things that I felt that I couldn't trust anyone
there for a while, but that changed when Stacy traveled
to India for a week and returned to work. Stacy

(02:30):
informed Alice and me literally three days before Alice was
to move in, that she was also moving in, but
not to live there, to open her own nail salon.
Alice and I were confused, like, where would the salon go?
Stacey told us it would be in the back of
the house, across from my bedroom. Oh wow, what did

(02:52):
I feel?

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Like?

Speaker 1 (02:53):
You have to inform your renters if you're going to
have a business in their house.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Right, that's like some sort of this was sort a
rule against So I don't think you can. Yeah, like,
I think you have to have permits.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
To a business new So maybe depending on the kind
of business too, though I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Alice and I were shocked and pissed off. Alice decided
not to move in because of it, and I didn't
blame her for it, But now I'm stuck living across
from a nail salon, and Stacy began to show some
true colors and her deceit began to surface. Oh gosh.
Alice talked with some of the other nail texts and
they told her that Stacy has done similar things before
to receptionists. She would be nice to them at first,

(03:33):
then alienate them from the other nail text because she
wanted to manipulate the sales so she made more money.
But then when the receptionists would find out, drama would
unfold and the issues would be blamed on the receptionist.
The receptionists are the fall guys. Oh my god, Oh
my gosh, run away, Ope, you get out of there.
I didn't want to believe it at first, but since

(03:55):
she began to act suspicious with wanting to open a
salon in the house I was renting in, which went
against my lease, I began to move in the shadows
and investigate. Ooh, there we go. Finally where this is going?
Some action? Yep. Stacy began to take things from the
salon she claimed were hers without informing the owner. She

(04:16):
has been friends with the owner we'll call him Nick
thirty four mail for over eleven years, so they were
really close. That's crazy, Wow, to be stealing from your
friend of eleven years. Yeah, and also the fact that
she's like actively like she makes She clearly is close
friends with Ope and with experience with Alice and the
other girls that she worked with, right, but is still like,

(04:36):
you know, effing them over.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, that's that's I don't even know how you would
do that as a person.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Crazy. However, Nick began reaching out to me directly because
he was told I wasn't doing my job correctly. Of course,
I asked him what was it that I wasn't doing,
and he told me I was overcharging clients. I asked
him what the prices were to everything. I played dumb,
set them up. Stacy began changing the prices again, and

(05:04):
I began taking screenshots and document Oh my gosh. I
also told them we were running out of certain supplies
and told me that was impossible because he recently bought them.
I told them that's what Stacy told me we needed,
but then she would tell me that's not what she meant. Weird, weird, weird,
because she's stealing them. Yeah, she live for her home

(05:27):
nail studio. Right then, the final straw happened one day,
she asked me to take some boxes to her car,
and I agreed. I didn't know what was in the
boxes until I placed them in her truck. It was
some waxing supplies like the waxing beads, sticks, wet wipes,
et cetera. Also some rhinestones, special gel polishes, and other

(05:48):
nail items. A week later, Alice tells me that Nick
is investigating in missing supplies. Guess which, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
She's opening her own nail slot in her house, so
she's definitely just stealing these things for that exactly.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
That's click and.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
So bold to just be like, hey, can you just
like take these to my Can you just like steal
with me, like literally making opie steel for her?

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah? Yeah, op, he's doing all the grunt work, crazy. Yep,
you're correct. The ones I carried to her car, Oh
my god. And yes, the supplies are at the house
that I am renting because that is where her new
salon will be. That's insane, and there are cameras in
the salon. My heart dropped and I knew that Stacy
was trying to frame me like she did with the
previous receptionists. I was hurt because I thought she cared

(06:37):
about me. But I had already gathered enough evidence and
it was time I came out of the shadows. It
is time. I compiled the list of everything she had
done for the past three months, from missing supplies, overcharging,
stealing clients by referring them to her salon without an
LL and expired license, defamation on current and previous employees,

(06:58):
and text messages about her plans for her new salon
with a specific message saying she's doing this because Nick
was a con artist? What ouch? I texted Nick I
needed to talk to him, and he set up a
time for three days. I told Alice and all my
other coworkers about it, and they said they would have
my back if Nick asked them. Stacy came in the

(07:20):
next day and try to be sweet to me. I
gave her a cold shoulder and told her, I'll talk
to you after work, that's right. She looked nervous, but
began working. Stacy asked me to meet her in the
back of the salon towards the end of the day,
and I did. She asked me what was wrong, and
I told her I knew the supply She asked me
to take to her car were not hers and Nick

(07:41):
is investigating. I told her she is three days to
tell Nick or that I will. She told me she would,
and for the next three days she called, texted, and
even came to me at work to reassure me she
took care of the situation. I think she's framing Opien.
I think she's taken three days to frame Opien.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
I would not trust her to like tell Nick at all. No,
I would not wanted to do that because since she'd
just be like, oh.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
My god, she tried to friend me. Yeah, I'm like,
kind of, I'm so scared for Opio. I really am
so surprised that she told her. I know, like Whoa's
going to work against you? Yeah, she even told me.
Nick already knew I took the supplies and I don't
even need to talk to him, but I still did.

(08:27):
Of course smart. Nick arrives and Stacy didn't show up
to work. Oh. Nick asked where is Stacy, and I
told him avoiding you because she's been deceiving you. There
you go. I told him everything and showed him the evidence.
He looked pained and told me this isn't the first
time Stacey has done something to hurt my business. But
this has gone too far, Yes, it has. He told

(08:49):
me I should not renew my lease, wasn't planning to,
and that he will be talking to Stacy about all
of this. He asked if it was okay if he
mentioned me, and I told him I wanted her to
know it was me. He's like, please please put my
name in your mouth and tell her about it. Right, yes,
Right that night, Stacey blew up my phone, calling me
a liar. See how I could betray her for everything

(09:11):
she did for me. I told her, yes, she did
a lot for me, but that doesn't make it okay
to frame me for theft. Yeah. Period. She tried to
tell me it was hers, and I sent her the
screenshots of receipts that it was under Nick's card. She
then said, I have been brainwashed by the other nail
text and then they've been out to get her since
day one, probably because you keep framing everyone. Yeah. She

(09:34):
texted a lot of nonsense, but I just kept mentioning
the theft and told her this is over. She said
she would tell Simon to not renew my lease, and
I told her I wasn't planning on it anyways. But
you should always plan on joining us live every week
to a three pmpst on Facebook, on YouTube, on TikTok.
Just top her profile, just tap it and there is

(09:55):
a little bit left the story. But I don't. Yeah,
I think that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
I think that's classic manipulator, classic classic everyone else, Yeah,
saying everyone else is just up against you and they're
just they've just been like saying so many negative things
about you this whole time, when in reality, you're just
doing negative things. They're doing the negative things, like that's
all it is.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
And Op is just a news reporter, yeah, reporting on
the situation, yep, and trying to frame you.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Shouldn't you know, you can't. You can't frame a reporter.
Can't that the truth will come out? Yes, it will,
But there is a little bit more to the story.
Let's see fast forward a week. Nick texts me that
I need to change the passwords from the system and
to take Stacy out. He was changing the locks and
access coaches to everything because he fired Stacy, which they

(10:47):
go crazy because they've had eleven year friendship.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, but he said that this wasn't the first time
that she knows something like that. They probably have forgiven
her before. Yeah, and it's that's not something that you
should burned him. He thanked me for my honesty and
told me I am a temporary assistant manager. Hell yeah,
But I left two months after to go back into
my field of psychology. I moved in with my now husband.
Alice and I are best friends now and Stacy apparently

(11:13):
lost a lot of her clients due to ethics and overcharging.
She also lost a lot of friends and had to
work outside of being an ail tech to make ends meet.
There you go, and that is the end of that story.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
My friends pushed me to loan the money out to
get together and now they're not paying me back, So
there you go. So I, twenty five female, am hosting
a Thanksgiving for family and friends this year, which is
generally an occasion I'm delighted to take on. It's my
favorite meal to cook and I have so much to
be thankful for this year. By the way, this comes

(11:46):
from punk is a vegetable on the r slash Okay
story time subreddit. So this has also been the hardest
year of my life. I escaped a six year long
ordeal with an abusive partner who ended up stocking me
resulting in me having to move two times in eight months.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
I have PTSD and emotional dysregulations issues because of this,
so I can't tell if I'm overreacting and being too
sensitive in this situation. I have two very close friends
who are in a relationship, twenty eight non binary and
twenty eight male, who have been there for me.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
At times. It was on and off because.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
I was so isolated and they didn't want to be
around my abuser. But when I finally win no contact
with my abusive partner, they went above and beyond being
there to emotionally support me and build up my confidence
to move forward and build resilience, which I am forever
grateful for. There is a bit of financial divide between us.
I don't make that much money but have a stable career,

(12:42):
and they've made more than me at times, but I
get to work from home. I struggle with anxiety, so
typically whenever we hang out, I host and provide food
and booze, which I'm generally happy to do. I will
even send them home with lots of leftover since I
love to cook, but have a bit of a people
pleasing streak, so sometimes I have a hard time saying no,
even when I can't afford to give as much away.

(13:04):
I pay for us ninety five percent of the time
we go out, and often uber them since they usually
say they can't afford it. I just want to be
in their presence, so I make the financial effort to
do so. They both lost their jobs in August and
are now living rent free with a family member. Although
it's not an ideal situation, this is where it gets sensitive.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
They both have developed a.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Bit of a habit with a particular substance, and it's
been concerning to me.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Oh, that's I think we might know this abstance.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
I'm not one to harshly judge. I partake recreationally very occasionally,
but I'm able to maintain my work in health routines. Unfortunately,
for them, there has been a noticeable shift in their behavior, motivation,
and even overall health and well being. I had a
difficult conversation with them and brought up my concerns and
they said they were handling it. If anything, since then,

(13:58):
I've noticed it's gotten a lot worse. Sadly, despite caring
about them immensely, I've had to take a step back
because it causes them to.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Cross boundaries with me. That's really hard. That is really hard.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
The last time we hung out, I had some friends.
I had some friends over for the election for an
end of the world party that's funny, and people expressed
interest in purchasing some of the aforementioned substance. I had
cooked on my lunch break and provided booze for the
get together. So I didn't want to pitch in much,
but it was made clear and no one would be

(14:28):
able to partake.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
If I didn't, Well, that's annoying. If you're not going
to partake, then you shouldn't have to pay for it. Yeah,
I agree. Yeah, that's that's so silly. Yeah, that's why
I never have to pay for it all. Yeah, there
you go.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
I offered twenty dollars, but then my friends saw I
had cash in my drawer and asked if i'd pitch.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
A hundred fifty dollars who and then they would pay
me back by the weekend. That that's crazy. That is
easy to be like, well, you actually have I can
see your money, right, I'm looking at your money.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
I'm so said, yeah, what because even if it's there, Yeah,
they don't have to it's not your pay I mean
like as in their money.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Right, like, oh, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
I agreed, since I couldn't say I didn't have money
since they saw it. Yeah, but you don't have to
be like, sorry, that's I don't want to I'm not
even partaking.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, Like you don't have.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
To be like incapable of participating, Like you could just
say you don't want to, yeah, and then you're good.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
I mean, like the hook, I've got money in my
bank account, and yeah, you could be like give it.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
To me, right, They're like, oh, you can't load me
like twenty bucks, Like, let's check your savings account.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Please check go right if it's more than twenty.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Over, yes, So I agreed, since I couldn't say I
didn't have the money since they saw it, and they
get so pushy, it's easier to just go with what
they have in mind.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
You gotta find better friends, I'm sorry, simply simply find
better friends. Yeah, you can't. You can't keep doing this.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I didn't hear from them the money that weekend, but
to their credit, they reached out last Tuesday and said
they'd get it to me when they could. I expressed
that it was critical I had it back the following
week this week now so I could purchase all the
groceries for Thanksgiving as there will be twenty plus people
in attendance and I don't get paid until after the holiday.
I uncomfortably reached out today to see where they were,

(16:21):
to see where they were at, and they told me
that they can't pay it back. I'm freaking out a
bit and having to put things on credit cards. I
admit I bit off more than I could chew, but
it's too late to cancel, and I was looking forward
to this as it's my first holiday in a while
that I am free. They're also planning to bring two
friends with them, and none of them will be bringing
a dish to pass, and I've already prepared myself for

(16:44):
the awkward conversation that they can't take all of the
leftovers home because I need to freeze some for meals
as I am financially.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Screwed side No, no, okay, your friends suck. Yes, orever,
you need to put some boundaries up if you literally
really financially need that one hundred and fifty dollars to live, Yeah,
don't let them take it. Yeah, it doesn't matter if
they saw it. Just say sorry. I can't afford that

(17:11):
right now, right.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
I spoke with a few friends and family members about
my frustration and how I feel. I understand that I
have certain limitations and that I wasn't always the best
friend and needed a lot of support this year. But
several people pointed out that my closer friend of the
two has been openly disrespectful to my face on occasion,
poking fun at my appearance, and I have facial deformity,

(17:33):
and that they have thought that they've been taking financial
advantage of me for years. My mom told me that
she doesn't think they actually care about me, and that
if I fit the bill, and if I didn't fit
the bill every time, that they wouldn't be there for me,
which was devastating to imagine.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
But unfortunately I think that's true. I think, Yeah, I mean,
so it seems like they keep asking you for money
and you give it to them. Yeah. Yeah, And it's
hard because, like I guess, I don't know how it
was before.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
But I mean, if they're if they were not a
good friend, like oh, people, isn't a good friend for
those six years and then now maybe they're just like
trying to make up.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
For all that time.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
You know, like I don't know, it goes to show
that those friends came back, because that doesn't always happen,
but like, but.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Like they might. Yeah, like it seems like they might
just be staying for that. Like maybe they came back
and that's nice and whatever.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
But it's like now that you have accustomed them to
this lifestyles of leaning on you for food and whatever
and whatever you pay for, then yeah, yeah, they're just
they're just spoiled now, spoiled so children, that's really sad.
But we will always be there for you every weekday
at three pm PSD.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Just taber profile.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
We're live on YouTube, TikTok, Facebook, anything else, switch Twitch, Just.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Tab her profile. Probably live right now? Yeah, I think, yeah,
we actually are. We are We are right now. Literally
look at our profile. Stop we're loving. Yeah, there is
a little more should we jump into or do you

(19:13):
have any comments? Beautiful?

Speaker 2 (19:16):
I don't want to cast them aside or think the worst. However,
one of my friends said I should do a sort
of test and said, if they respect me in the
fact that I am financially struggling, they'll either pay me
back so I can host without as much stress, or
they'll understand if I genuinely let them know I can't
afford to host them and they're plus two if they

(19:36):
can't pay me back. I am a little hurt though,
because I have been fully transparent. I'm hurting. I'm doing
side gigs and working twelve hour days just to survive.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
And they know this.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Any advice is much appreciated. Yeah, you need to put
your foot down and say I don't have the money
to help you guys, and if you pay me back
then you can't come right sorry. I think, yeah, I agree.
I think that you can be you can be a
little asserted. I feel like maybe Op is like very

(20:08):
people pleasing because she was.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
A bad friendship. Yeah, and she feels bad and she's
trying to make up for it and now yeah they're
taking advantage. Yeah, and like you know, maybe you're maybe.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Op is just like everything has to be good and
you can't like put your foot down anything. But there
is a good balance that you can do, Like you
don't have to be like you don't have to be
like super people pleasing to like be a good person
or be a good friend.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Like you can absolutely set those boundaries for yourself.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Because like it's just what the situation like, you just
don't have the money, that's literally what it is. You
don't even want to partake in that substance. And you
paid for them to one hundred and fifty dollars. It's
a lot of money because they snooped and asked you
to going through your drawers.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, that's a weird.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
That's crazy. So I think you're You're good. You can
still be a good friend. You still people, please, just
this situation. You can still put your foot down. But
that it's okay. You're not a flamingo.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Put that foot down. That's cute things. But that's the
end of that story. My friends Beyonce called me under
the influence right before their wedding. Now all my friends
are ghosting me. That's crazy. That didn't you do He
didn't do anything. He didn't do anything. I twenty eight female,
used to be best friends with Anna twenty eight female

(21:22):
since high school. She was popular and outgoing, while I
was the introverted, nerdy friend. In high school, I had
a crush on Ethan twenty eight male, but I assumed
he'd prefer Anna, so I stayed out of it. They
started dating and I supported her with reluctance because of
their toxic on and off relationship. Over time, I grew

(21:43):
to dislike Ethan because he was rude and mean. By
the way, this comes from deleted on the oaky Storytime Separated.
It is never let your friends date the guy you like, yeah,
because you'll hate that. That sounds good. They broke up
when we twenty one, but got back together with him
a year later, and eventually got engaged at twenty three.

(22:06):
Well three months before the wedding. Ethan wastedly called me
asking why I rejected him. I dismissed him and said
he was wasted and ended the call. The very next day,
I was kicked out of the group chats and ghosted
by everyone else in our friends circle. Oh my god,
she didn't reject him. She said she had a crush

(22:28):
on Ethan and then he and Anna started dating. Yeah
that's so, where is he getting this?

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Like?

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Why did you reject me? When I texted my friends
to ask what happened, they gave me the silent tream?
What the silent treatment is so annoying? Literally just talk
about it, say why? Yeah. When I reached out to Anna,
I found myself blocked, desperate, I even tried calling Ethan,
but my number was blocked two. I had no idea
what I'd done wrong, and I wished anyone would tell me.

(22:56):
That week was hell. Anna's silence hurt the most because
at the time she meant everything to me. I barely slept,
battling panic attacks at night while trying to keep it
together for class during the day. If not for my
supportive roommates who helped me through my panic attacks, I
don't know how I would have made it through. Anna
and I tended the same local university, but took different classes.

(23:19):
I waited for her outside her class. When she came
out with her friends, I pulled her aside and asked
what was going on. She accused me of being a
fake friend who tried to steal Ethan. Of course, I
denied her accusation and asked for proof, but she went
silent and left. They didn't unfriend me on Facebook, but
kept posting about their hangouts and their bridle shower, along

(23:41):
with indirect jobs at me. I eventually deleted my old
account and changed my number. I slowly rebuilt my self
esteem and moved on. I recently created a new Facebook
account a few days ago. I was added to a
group chat for our upcoming reunion, which I had no
idea about. They greeted me, calling me class resident, as
if they hadn't shunned me six years ago. WHOA wait, wait,

(24:04):
I missed that. Sorry it's been six years. What it's
been six years? Whoa? Where did that come from? Time jump?
I left the group, but they messaged me and I
kept calling, so I finally picked up out of annoyance.
He told me that she was sorry for everything and
wished for me to come to the class reunion party.

(24:25):
The party didn't seem to be complete without the class
president every year.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
True.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Oh, he's like, that is true. I guess. She told
me that she divorced Ethan after two years of marriage.
WHOA wow. She tried to reach out to me but
couldn't find any of my socials or contact info after
we graduated because you blocked her. Yeah. I asked her
why she was telling me all this when she was
not important to me anymore? He cried. I ended the

(24:52):
call and continued ignoring their messages on messenger. My family
says forgiveness is for my own peace and that it
doesn't forgetting, But I don't feel anything. Anymore, only indifference.
I don't know them anything to ease their guilt. So
am I the ahole? And there is a PS but pausing, Yeah,

(25:13):
what do you think? I I don't know. I think like,
I don't think you have to forgive. I don't think so.
I I think some think if you internally forgiven or
like you've gotten over it, then you're good. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
I don't understand when people say, like, you know, you
gotta forgive everyone, I like, for yourself.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
I don't. I honestly don't get that. See. I actually
I am a proponent of forgiving for like, let's talk
about it because I need to. I might need to
forgive some people only, But my forgive is I don't
think it always has to be verbalized. I don't think
you have to go to someone and say like I
give you, right. I think it can just be like, uh,
you know what, I forgive this person because I don't

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want them to occupy space in my mind. Yeah, like
simply because I want to move on from that. Right.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
But then does that mean that like in your head
you say that it's okay.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
That what they did what they did?

Speaker 1 (26:05):
No, because that's what confuses me. I know, I don't
think forgiveness is saying that it's okay mm hmm. I
think that it's always going to be like whatever they
did that wrong was still going to be wrong. Yeah.
I think it's just saying, you know what, like, either
it's saying one, I'm allowing us to move on together
from that and we're going to continue to be friends, yeah,

(26:26):
or to I'm allowing myself to move on interesting from
you interesting. So I think that's the way I think
about it. Okay, So do you think that she should
forgive or I think I think I mean, it's been
six years, so I think maybe like forgive in the
sense that just move on from them. But I don't
think she has Yeah, I mean which exactly. I think
she's like, I'm indifferent. I don't really care.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, I mean, like if you call it forgiveness or not,
like yeah, she said she's in difference, Like, yeah, I
don't think it.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
I think that is to be an issue, right, Yeah,
But I don't think you don't have to be friends
with them, especially like it kind of makes sense on
Anna's side because and not like saying that it's good
or anything, but it like makes a little bit of sense,
because it's like, oh, her fiance probably told her all
of these lies. That's not Yeah, I mean that's what

(27:13):
can be assumed. Yeah, I'm sure with all of the
other friends. Yeah. The fact that none of them even
went to talk to piece, yes, I would like that.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
I know.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
That's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, because that that's a huge thing, like the fact
that they just ghosted without question, with just hearing stuff
from this guy and then it turns out.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Wow, check in right. Ps. I originally posted this in
another main subreddit, but it was deleted. Even now, I
still wonder why I was ghosted and shunned like that.
I want to know the truth, but I'm not sure
if I can trust any of them. And there is
an update. Uh am I the ale for refusing to
forgive my ex best friend and other friends even after

(27:52):
six years later. Okay, interesting. I think I think they're
they're trying to come back to you because they feel guilty,
but you don't know them anything. Yeah, true, they feel guilty,
but like you've moved on, you've moved on, though that's
on them.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
They can figure that out themselves, just like you had
to figure it out yourself.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Exactly. So I wanted to edit my previous post. Just
a quick disclaimer. I created my Facebook account two weeks
ago after mustering the courage from past trauma. I used
fake names and ages for anonymity. In reality, we're all
twenty nine. My friendship with Anna fell apart when I
was twenty three, and now six years later, we're twenty nine.
That is how that works. I know no one has

(28:35):
noticed this so far, but I just wanted to clarify.
Some people from my previous posts suggested that I reach
out to Ethan. However, before I could do so, he
reached out to me first. Yesterday, I received a friend
request from him along with the message saying hi in
my messenger. So we talked. He invited me for coffee
this weekend so we could talk about it. I told

(28:56):
him not to push his luck and just answer me.
I asked him about his call that night. Since most
boys were too intimidated to approach me, they often asked
Anna to convey their feelings to me. I was freaking right.
Why I was freaking right? Oh my gosh, Ethan was
one of them. Apparently a lot of boys had a
crush on me back then, but at the time, only

(29:16):
Anna received open confessions, so I assumed I was undesirable,
not that it mattered to me. What a freaking bad friend. Yeah,
what a terrible friend all the guys, it's crazy. Oh man,
I was foolishly infatuated with Anna, so much so that
I would have rolled out a red carpet for her

(29:38):
to walk on if I could. He was my entire
world back then. Man, sucks. Doesn't sound healthy though, too.
Not even once have I ever heard about any boys
in high school liking me from Anna. Apparently, Anna would
always come back to them with her apologetic face, telling
him that I had rejected them, repeated the insults I
had supposedly said about them.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Oh she's making that stuff up now, this is crazy,
this is wild, wow, wild.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
And no one ever said anything to Opie. Yeah, no
one was like, hey, Opie, why did you say that
about me? That's kind of crazy. No wonder. Some people
back in high school called me arrogant and disliked me
for some reason. Oh my gosh. I just thought it
was because I was a strict class president and student
committee member. Unlike Anna, who was friendly and charming, I
was strict, sharp tongued, and rarely smiled. I didn't know

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anyone to smile. True, you don't true, and you don't
like that apology. He's like, I was a strict class president,
no nonsense. Ethan explained that he was mean to me
back then because Anna told him I had said he
was an orphan abandoned by his parents. Opie was like,
yeah he was. He was really mean, So like, I
didn't like him after that. I thought someone said I

(30:54):
was an orphan abandoned by my parents. Yeah. This was
a particularly sensitive topic for him, as he had been
used by his grandparents since childhood. He later discovered the
truth when Anna inadvertently admitted it during an argument Amateur Amateur.
That moment led him to file for divorce. Wow. Ethan
shared that he genuinely did love Anna, but her constant

(31:16):
insecurity and habit of bringing up my name and every
argument strained the relationship. She either accused Ethan of still
thinking about me or compared him to me. Anna did
find out about Ethan's wasted call That very same night.
They had an argument and Ethan came close to calling
off the wedding Wow, but Anna guilt tripped him into sting.
Neither Ethan nor Anna lied or twisted the story. Anna

(31:39):
simply told our entire friend group to stop talking to me.
Oh my god, and they just did. Yeah that's crazy.
Is Anna a cult leader?

Speaker 3 (31:48):
What?

Speaker 1 (31:48):
I'm sorry. If one of my friends said you have
to stop talking to another one of my friends, yeah,
I'd be like why. I'd be like, wow, up, what
is the reason? Yeah? Like, do you have any reason? They?
I knew I hadn't done anything wrong, but somehow it
was still my fault that Ethan had unresolved feelings toward me.
I was and still am an introvert, and most of

(32:09):
my friends back then were hers. It wasn't surprising that
they followed her lead when she turned against me. They
were always her friends, not mine. Anna and my ex
classmates then painted me as a villain to the other
friends from high school. Ethan didn't do anything to help
because he was manipulated to hate me his words, not mine. Wow.
I mean again, if I found out, yeah, that someone

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told me that I was an orphan abandon my parents,
I wouldn't go to bat for the person who said.
Who I thought said that? Right?

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Like?

Speaker 1 (32:40):
I think that's understand That's why I changed my number
and deleted all my social media accounts, well, no one
directly bombarded me with mean messages. I constantly saw a
post that seemed to be aimed at me, even though
my name was never mentioned. Ethan only revealed everything to
the other friends after his divorce with Anna was finalized.
Anna and my ex classmates are the ones being shunned

(33:03):
by the others since two years ago. Ethan said he
owed me an apology, though he knew it wouldn't be
enough after everything that happened. While he never smeared my name,
he stood on the sidelines and did nothing simply because
I rejected him and called him an abandoned orphan during
high school crazy again. The abandoned orphan part was that

(33:24):
would like if that hadn't been said, that would have
been like grounds, Yeah, but I also at least I
think it's yeah. But I do think it's interesting though
that he focused on the rejection part. Yeah, that part
is less that part, I'm like, wow.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Okay, But Ethan focused on that though when he called her,
I was.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Like, why did you reject me? He never brought up
why did you call me? In ador? Why did you
like that? He asked me if I was going to
the upcoming reunion party. Turns out the reunion party this
time was for the nineteen ninety five high school batch.
My ex classmates probably wanted their former class president to
attend for appearances. This is really serious. I do think

(34:03):
maybe possibly you are putting a little bit too much
weight on the class president thing, because he's like, well,
you probably want me to attend for appearance. So even
think I remember who my class president was, I would
not care there. I literally wouldn't care if they were there.
I probably won't. I don't know if i'll go. I

(34:25):
didn't go to my I don't think anyone showed up
to our five year reunion. I told him I won't go.
He said I can sit with him and his ex
classmates if I wanted to. Why would I, brother, I
told him I wouldn't be attending because I have no
friends from high school. You mentioned that the others would
be sad if they heard I said that, Well, screw them,

(34:47):
Opie says, but also me. I received a lot more
messages from old friends, but I didn't respond to any
of them. I have no attachment towards them. I told
Anna that Ethan already told me everything goalt me on
messager again, sobbing, you admitted she might have been a
terrible friend. What do you mean might have, but that
she did care about me all those years. I was

(35:08):
always on her mind. I was too attached to her
back then because she was my first real friend and
I had no friends in middle school. I was too
shy and quiet, so I couldn't make friends. Anna taught
me how to make friends and overcome my social anxiety
and introduced a lot of people to me. And by
the way, you can introduce us to your friends and
family and tell them that we go live every weekday

(35:30):
a three PMPSD on YouTube, on Facebook, on TikTok. Just
tap her pfile does tap And there is a little
bit more to this story. But any final.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Thoughts, I just I think it's just this all just
feels blown out of proportion at this point, like the
beginning in the early story, the first round, you know,
it was like, Okay, yeah, we got this all covered,
and now I don't know, Now this just feels like
it's just the friend's problem, Like, yeah, it doesn't feel
like Opia has any problem, and everyone else.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Just like her, please, Yeah, they're so obsessed with getting Ope.
The student class President's favor back and he's like, I
literally don't care about it.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yes, it's like you will not be pardoned actually shat photo.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yeah, but there is a little bit left to the story.
I learned to cook for her and took care of
her when she was sick. I even protected her from creeps.
Everything I did was for her. Now that I think
about it, it was kind of unhealthy. Maybe she wanted
me to be that version of myself again only for
her convenience. You begged me to try again, that she
would be a better person for me, but I just

(36:34):
ended the call and blocked her. After a few minutes
of contemplating, I decided to delete my Facebook account again.
I have a feeling that if I didn't, they will
keep on bothering me. I'll settle with the fake account.
The main reason why I made Facebook account is to
play harvestown anyway, nice, Sorry for the long post. This
will be my one and only update. I want to

(36:54):
thank the four people who personally messaged me on Reddit.
Your messages meant a lot, as not many people have
done so much for me in my life. I hope
my update answered your questions. Farewell, and that is the end.
Of that story. My mother in law ruined my son's
birthday party. We want to cut them off.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Cut them off. No more birthday candles, no more birthday wishes.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Uh sorry, it's long, but this is just crazy. Now
we're debating going no contact with mother in law and
dealing with the possible consequences of losing touch with my
husband's huge family over it because of the narrative she's pushing.
Background context. My husband, Bob thirty mail, comes from a
big family. He's the sixth of nine siblings and his father,

(37:38):
father in law, is the first of nine. Yeah, very
big family. His parents are technically separated, although might be
trying to work things out. We don't really know and
don't really care to know either. By the way, this
comes from Admirable Incident nine point forty on the Okay
Storytime supparateate so due to his mother and mother in
law abandoning them and only taking the baby the youngest

(38:00):
and leaving with another man. My husband isn't really close
with his mother and doesn't really care to get to
know her. My husband was super close to one of
his grandfathers, but unfortunately he passed away last year and
we've been trying to keep things open with the rest
of the family, especially because of our son Jay.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Jeremy Jack or Jeremy to Jeremy, Jeremy.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Is Jeremy, who will be turning a year here shortly. I,
thirty one female, on the other hand, come from a
small family that was already broken up by the time
I came along, and it only became worse later with
my own mother disowning her mother. And now none of
those of us who are left speak anymore beyond funerals.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Wow, sounds like we up just a family with no
moms in it.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Yeah, that's so sad. Nikes. I have two sons, AJ
twelve and MJ eleven from a previous relationship. Bob sees
them as his own and plans to adopt them officially.
My father in law already claimed them during Jeremy's first
laugh ceremony earlier this year and publicly adopted them as
his grandsons. What's a first laugh ceremony?

Speaker 3 (39:05):
I have no idea first laugh.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
It's just like the first time he lived there. Like,
oh my god, he laughed.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
He's fine. Imprinted like what?

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Speaking of which, earlier this year, during a certain ceremony
that is important in my husband's culture. My mother in
law basically told me she didn't believe our marriage but
last because we only knew each other for two years. Now,
it is true my husband and I have only been
officially together for two years, but I've known each other
for nine and have been those friends everyone thinks should

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get together but never had the chance to, except we
did and said so in our vows. My father in
law's response was, why hadn't he my husband introduced us sooner,
and well, you just read what my mother in law thinks.
She also told AJ and MJ not to call Bob dad,
which is crossing a line we had already agreed upon.

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He's completely fine with them calling him dad, and he
sees them as his sons. We only learned later after
the ceremony. Mother in law also tried to claim I
was lazy and not a good in law, only for
me to call her out. One she's not the first
toxic mother in law I've dealt with, and two she's
just like my grandmother to a tea who ruined our

(40:15):
once close knit family who now no longer talk to
each other. So yeah, and also claim Bob is too
childish and doesn't treat AJ and MJ as sons but siblings.
Bob and I talked about it, came up with a
game plan on dealing with her in the future. This
is when my husband admitted to not caring if we
ever have a relationship with her because she one abandoned

(40:37):
him and two what he has gotten to know of her,
he doesn't care to know anymore. Made sure we were
secure in us and our boys understood that they can
call Bob dad if they want to, and to ignore
what she said. It seems like Bob and OPR on
the same way.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
We're on the same way wavelength. I just maybe before
things get worse, just execute that game plan prior, just
like we're.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Going to say, execute the mother. O. No, just get
rid of her.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
No, just just makes you maybe use that word. But yeah,
just make sure you're on the same page already. Easy
and before things get you know, aggravated. Yeah, just do
it now.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Now on to the issue. A couple of weeks ago,
we had called my father in law to see if
it was okay to hold Jeremy's birthday party at his
house because he's closer to the midpoint and majority of
family where we're out of the way. Two town's over.
My mother in law was there and she answered the phone.
Per usual, she took control of the conversation. Annoying, but

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at the time we were in agreement with their suggestions.
Jeremy's a Turkey baby.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
What what are these terms?

Speaker 1 (41:45):
I oh? And although this year his birthday doesn't land
on Thanksgiving, we agreed having it on the day of
when everyone will be there was a good plan along
with doing Potlock style. Okay, so, okay, presumably he was
born on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Okay that I was going to put two and two together,
but I was like, I don't want to jump to
conclusions here.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
My husband added, we should do it for both Jeremy
and I. I'm a Turkey baby too, and my birthday
is literally the day before Thanksgiving this year. My dad's
a Turkey baby. I guess.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
I don't know any Turkey babies other than I guess.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Well, actually, I don't know if his If he was
born on Thanksgiving, but sometimes his birthday falls on.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Thanksgiving, I don't know how I feel about that. That kind
of sucks.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
It was actually really confusing for me as a child,
because I thought that his birthday was on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
So everyone was celebrating Thanksgiving for your dad.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Well no, no, no, I just like would get confused what
day is actual birthday was because I was like, I
thought it was Thanksgiving. So it took me a while
to figure out what day's birthday was actually on.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
What's his actual birthday?

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Is it the twenty fourth of November?

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Oh yeah, so he just like, might as well just
throw it two birds one stone kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
No, No, I was just separate thought. I was just like,
oh it was like Thanksgiving. Yeah, I just took it
turkey for a while. It is the point.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Okay, shout out to those Turkey babies out there.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
But yeah, we got off the phone with both of
them with the green light and began planning. We ordered
the cake and planned where to go for decorations and
some guy. Now this weekend, we physically drove down and
visited to make sure we were all still on the
same page before posting to Facebook what the plan was.
Seemed like it only thing is mother in law backtracked

(43:13):
on our previous statement about the potluck style, stating we
should have enough food and was concerned about having too much.
We shrugged it off and went home, posting the invitation
the next day and tagging the family members I had
on my Facebook, Like we talked about and agreed upon,
Monday comes, husband leaves to work at the moment, he
works out of town and is gone all week until

(43:35):
the weekend, and crap hits the van.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Can't wait.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Mother in law messages me on Facebook freaking out about
the public post literally only family and friends can see it,
and worried we're not inviting the whole tribe. Bob also
had a sister texting with the fact that their mom
was freaking out about their dad not working and all that. Now.
Due to our agreement and game plan for dealing with
mother in law after the previous issue mentioned above, I

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didn't even reply until Bob was there via video call
because we agreed to deal with it together. Okay, that
makes sense. For the next several hours, we proceeded in
a back and forth with her on the plan, what
we discussed, even pointing out what she said and suggested,
et cetera. Basically, our definition of everyone was different mother

(44:22):
in law, anyone who either so for mother in law,
anyone who either came in or out of her so
just like they're immediate nine.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
I guess, Okay, still very big family. Yeah, this can
get very convoluted and very like.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Ah yeah, versus Bob's definition of the entire family, namely
those he's close to.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
When I had a friend of mine read the conversation
from a third perspective, she asked why mother in law
was being purposely obtuse and clearly trying to get her way.
The final straw was when mother in law asked what
we meant by family baby sister's family or Bob's family.
My husband snapped and what enough? So d up changing
the invitation to our place an uninvited mother in law.

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We both wanted to crack open a cold one after this. Well,
that started another round of drama of Bob's oldest sister
calling him crying, saying it should be about the kids,
and she mother in law abandoned them.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
This may be one of those things where the family's
too freaking big that not everyone is going to be
and no one's to be happy, no one's need to
be happy. Yeah, this is one of those things where
it's like we can't please everyone. No. It also it.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Seems like, oh, pee and Bob, we're trying to invite
more people, like we're trying to get the whole gang together.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
At least in a general context, Like Bob seems like
he wanted the you know, the ones that he's close to,
and you're like say, oh, yeah, that's family.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Those two different misunderstandings of the term family, which we agree.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
But how can we go with the original plan after this?
And the baby sister messaged me on Facebook asking me
to remove the uninvited part because it makes everyone look bad?
We did they uninvite the mother in law on Facebook?

Speaker 3 (46:00):
It sounds like the uninvited, but I don't did did they?

Speaker 1 (46:03):
So we ended up the invitation to our place an
uninvited mother in law?

Speaker 3 (46:07):
It was It wasn't explicit that they did it on Facebook,
but I probably did.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
They did it, it says, asking me to remove the
uninvited party because it makes everyone look bad, which, no, crap.
Your mother just turned a birthday party into a power play.
It's effing that. So it seems like they. I don't know.
I don't know if this needed to be done all
on Facebook. I think we could have.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
I feel like this that is the case. This got
messed up when OP put it on Facebook.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Yeah, you know what, maybe like not necessarily your faults.
It seems like the mother in law was making a
lot of you know, making a mess. However, I think
just going forward, STU, partiful, stup, partifle, There we go.
It's easy.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
You and your party FLEs.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
At the moment. The party is temporarily postponed until we
figure out this drama. Yes, my husband and I have
re gone over the entire conversation trying to figure out
what the actual f happened and how we ended up
as the bad guys for simply wanting to hold a
party for a son's first birthday where everyone could come
see him if they wanted. We're going back and forth

(47:08):
on either trying to make amends and compromising. I know
though that people like my mother in law you have
to hold your ground or it will only get worse,
or just doing her own thing at our house with
an open invitation to friends and family like originally planned thoughts.
I will also update as best I can. Oh, and
I'm also debating about telling mother in law and pointing
out what she is doing is exactly what my grandmother

(47:30):
did to my family and does she really want that
to happen? To hers and possibly blocking her and there
is an update. I don't I don't know if it's
your place to go to your mother in law and
say all that. I think maybe her son could do that.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
I feel like this is just a standard miscommunication and
then it just blew up and now everyone's gonna be
talking smack about each other.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Yeah. I think just do your her open invite thing
and whoever comes comes.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Yeah. Honestly, like if you just want to celebrate your
son's birthday, which that was the original plan, Yeah, a
little bit of Thanksgiving in there. Great.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
I think if your husband wants to go talk to
his mom and be like, hey, your behavior is you know,
whack and you're messing up the family, that's his place.
But I don't think that you can necessarily do that. Yeah. No,
it's already such a messy situation.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
He really is.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
She already left the kids when they were younger.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
I would say a party full, but like like you said, yeah,
but I think just invite the specific like I think
Bob said, the family members that you're closest to. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know what op situation is
or you know, everyone situation of who's connected to who
and who likes who. Obviously, you guys don't like mother
in law, so don't invite mother in law.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
I just don't in. But there is an update. Okay, guys,
I was not expecting to be doing an update already. However,
here I am. So one of you guys shared a
don't rock the boat which we loved and ended up
posting to Facebook saying guess bern saying guess we're the
nun boat steadiers what because we found it funny and

(49:14):
ironic to the situation, not as a bash or anything,
just ironic. We didn't even tag anyone, so you know
she had to have been spying on my private Facebook. Well,
my mother in law commented under it and tried to
do a call me specifically out She stated my true
colors were showing. She tried to claim we were doing
a huge celebration on her dime, going to make her

(49:36):
do all the cooking cleaning. While I yes, she didn't
go after the hobby. She went for me hid away
in the room. I don't know where she even got
this idea, but at least we know what scenario and
narrative she's trying to pull, which makes it easier to
call her out. People need to stop posting on Facebook.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Keep your drama to yourself. Yeah, we post everything on
Facebook like a bad it's an all good look, not
even look.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
So I replied to stop did you reply on Facebook?
And was using her own wording against her. I pointed
out she was doing a lot of assuming about what
we were doing and planning. What we meant by wanting
the family to be able to come see the baby,
we aren't down there too often, and that's why we
had done an open invitation to those family members were
close to but don't see all that often. And what

(50:23):
the whole situation was going to be that we were
planning and cooking, bringing our own dishes. We literally were
planning bringing full dishes due to concerns of not buying
leather in law's concerns of having too much food and
buying a large batch of throwaway plates, bowls, and utensils
along with big trash bags so they didn't have to
worry about dishes helping with the cleanup. And the only

(50:44):
time I'd be hiding would be when I was feeding Jeremy.
He's breastfed, by the way, and not only is she
not the first toxic person I've had to deal with,
but that she's just like my grandmother who played these
same games and now are once tight knit family don't
even talk to each other, and does she want the
same for hers then keep playing these games? And added

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the I think there's maybe some swear at the end.
I will admit a b move, but I am so
sick and tired of this girl.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Aren't you doing that? Though you're making it, You're adding
so much fuel to this fire that you not necessarily
originally started, but that you are like having.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
This is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Okay, Opie, Opie, you're the one who's posting it on
Facebook and making everyone see it.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
And I had to apologize to my husband for making
a move without him, but he was fine and just
asked for the screenshots of the conversation. Ironically, even before this,
we had been talking about going no contact with mother
in law. My husband said, it's not the first time
only usually it's just been in the shadows, per se,
and this is the first out in public for everyone
to see.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
What why is it?

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Why?

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Why why do you have to do that?

Speaker 1 (51:57):
This weekend, when he gets home, we plan on talking
about it together and making sure we are one hundred
percent on the same page before physically going to my
father in laws and breaking the news. I told Bob
that we just need to make it clear to not
only father in law but the whole family that it's
not because of the party. This was just the last straw.
This is what I thought our next update would be. Anyways,

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So yeah, Bo, Bob wants to hear them out, but
we agree to stand firm in our decision. I also
plan to record the conversation because I know people like
mother in law love to twist your words against you. Also,
we are debating about posting the screenshots of the conversation.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
No, stop with that posting stuff that.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Led to all this bs in the first place, especially
since we don't plan to speak to mother in law
ever again after this.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Don't freaking don't do it.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
No one freaking cares. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
No.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Unless you're posting this on Reddit anonymously, people would probably
like this, which you are. You could post them here.
Post your screenshots here. Don't post them on Facebook for
your friends and family.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
This is going to divide the family. You're you're doing
like you're doing what you were like, you don't want
to be that person.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
You're doing this. My friend thinks it's funny that mother
in law is claiming my true colors are showing when
she's literally calling herself out, which Bob and I agree.
So right now we're just planning on how to go
about this and hoping my husband doesn't lose his family
because of it. But as he said himself, his father
knows how toxic she is and was the last one
to call her out, so she'll be interesting in the least.

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We just still can't wrap our heads around how this
all came from just wanting a simple birthday party for
a son's first birthday where the family could join if
they wanted to. And there is another update, but uh yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
My take is everyone sucks.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Everyone sucks here. You and the mother in law are
adding fuel to this fire, especially knowing that her. Bob
and Op had a conversation before all this went down
and said this is how we're going to handle mother
in law. We're going to you're going to wait, you know,
we're gonna have a conversation before we make any moves
with her, and then we'll go forward together. And instead

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she literally went against that and posted on Facebook for
everyone to see her little tiff with the mother in law.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
I love though no one rocked the boat thing or
like we rocked the boat thing by.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Yeah, oh no peace like oh like it wasn't meant
to be a call it. It absolutely was.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
You are cognizant of what you're doing, and you're just like,
it's like a such a petty battle.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
It's so petty for no reason. Like we've already established
that you guys don't like the mother in law and
that you'd want to go no contact, So just go
no contact.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
There's no need to put in the energy and just
make everyone get involved with this.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Yeah, this could have been handled so much better. Yeah,
but there is another update. So yesterday my husband and
I sat down and spoke about the situation and how
we both felt. He understands why I wish to go
no contact completely with mother in law, but we both
also struggle with possibly getting removed from any future family
events field.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
I don't like that comment, like, you know exactly what
he feels.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
The whole family needs a break from each other. After
the discussion and knowing where we both stood in the situation,
we left her kids with my mom and went to
go speak with my father in law about the situation.
Note mother in law was not there and she had
returned to her home eight hours away until Tuesday. Father
in law listened and after some silence, went off about
how the whole thing was childish and disrespectful on both sides.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Yes, wow, yes, so easy to understand. Yes, and I'm
just maybe this might be like a premonition year but
I think Opec could get very upset about that.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
I think is gonna be like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (55:42):
It's only yours. It's literally the pointing finger, like you're
both at fault here, just like us.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
He's been told multiple different narratives and doesn't know what
to believe and frankly doesn't care and thinks it's all stupid. Yes,
he had yelled at mother in law as well and
told her off and said apologies we needed on both sides. Yes,
we agreed, okay, and took fault in our actions with
the situation as well.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
Okay, we're wrong, all right.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
At least you realize that he just messed up. We
told them about how we have decided to switch our
son's birthday party back to his actual day of birth
and we'll hold a get together at our house, and
we aren't sure if we'll come to Thanksgiving, just so
everyone has a chance to cool down. Later, we talked
some more with my mom because we still were on
a separate fence with mother in law. I wanted to

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go no contact and Bob going little contact, and she
helped us decide to go limited contact. We also agreed
for me to go the route as one of my
sister in law's where it comes to mother in law.
One of my brother in law's wife does not even
acknowledge my mother in law, much less say anything to her.
And Bob supports me one hundred percent on doing the same.

(56:48):
But we support you one hundred percent on joining us
live every weekday at three PMPSD on YouTube, on Facebook,
on TikTok. Just top our profile, step it and there
is a little bit left to this, but yeah, we
need you need to stop post it on Facebook. Honestly,
it's kind of really silly to me that OPI is

(57:09):
going like they're going through this whole thing when the
mother in law lives eight hours away.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
This is so silly.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
I can't imagine that she's going to that many family
events when she's eight hours away.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Very that's why they were doing it in the first place,
because their place was a middle point. Yeah, this is
so silly in so many I love the father in
law just be like, this is dumb. He's like, Soto,
apologize this. This makes no sense.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
You guys are acting like children.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
This was supposed to be a fun thing and now
guess what. Thanksgiving is kind of like awkward this year.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Yeah, because of you guys.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
Literally just do too. Yeah, and a little bit of
support of it, I guess, Bob.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Yeah, he's like, yeah, I know your mother in law
it acts like this, but why are you guys acting
like this?

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Puts way too much energy into this when you should
have been focusing that energy to a positive thing like
the birthday party.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
It's just ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
Touch negative around it.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Yeah, too much, too much, but there's a little bit left, Okay. Afterwards,
we posted a public statement.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Why why you learned the lessons.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Apologizing to those who got involved in how it should
have stayed between us and mother in law. You're not
the freaking like, I don't know, mayor, you don't need
to post a public statement.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
No apologies over here, No.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
One follows your Facebook that closely.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
We don't know that maybe yeah, maybe.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Maybe Opie's an influencer on Facebook. We also did our
best to our ability, breaking down what led to the situation,
along with the fact we had talked about going limited
to no contact with mother in law after what she
had told AJ and MJ about not calling Bob Dad.
We then explained the changes to plans from switching Jeremy's
party to a simple birthday date for me for my birthday,

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and that we most likely will do Thanksgiving at our place,
and that we will be going limited contact with mother
in law. Basically, we went from three events being celebrated
on Monday to three separate events on three separate days.
We also spoke with other family members, some who asked
us what happened, and others confirming they should be able
to come to the new date for a sense party.

(59:08):
So that's what we have so far. We posted the
statement and new birthday invitation. So far, my husband's oldest
sister has reacted with a heart to the new invitation,
to the new invitation, and we haven't heard anything from
anyone else. And that is the end of that frustrating.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Story that was very frustrating, so frustrating. But that's the
most frustrating time of the year. Yeah, family members.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Yeah, it's trying to get everyone coordinated.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
I guess another Thanksgiving fallout story.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
More all of the stories stopped posting everything on Facebook.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Yeah, if you're gonna have beef, just have beef, but
don't post it all over.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Go in the text chain like normal people.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
What are we in high school?

Speaker 1 (59:47):
It's ridiculous, Like you can go on I don't know,
you can text individual family members and be like, oh hey,
I'm like so sorry that that happened. This is what
was going on. You don't need to post it on Facebook.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Also communicate a little bit better. Yeah, and don't point fingers.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Yeah geez, But that's the end of that story.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
My mother in law uninvited my family from Thanksgiving. Suddenly
she wants us back.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
You can't have them back.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
My mother in law has been ruining Thanksgiving for me
for years, and somehow she makes it more complicated every year.
It started out with her just being overly stressed about
hosting and she would snap at everyone, just making the
whole afterosphere uncomfortable. But I always tried to be helpful
and understanding I mean hosting is stressful right. By the way,

(01:00:33):
this comes from user Rosie Page on the r slash
Okay storytime separated. So then one year I walked in
on her smack talking the dessert I had brought to
my sisters in law, and it hit me hard. This
is where the line was drawn.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
This is her Duffinchpords backstory law winside. When I was
a child, my mother in law made fun of my
desserts and I never forgot it. Now I'm making the
uh mother in law considerator.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
Thanksgiving has never been the same for me since in
recent years other people in the family have voiced their
opinions about her antics, so at least I felt less
alone in it. One year, she passive aggressively announced to
everyone in a group text then that since that it was
very expensive, she would need us to all split up
the dishes and bring something, as if it weren't already

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doing that. For years to begin with yeah wait it's Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Yeah, thankshaving goats.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
She would often assign my husband and me things that
she knew we couldn't mess up. Mind you, I cook
for my family literally every day with zero complaints, like
bring pepperoni and cheese and crackers. So pepperoni and cheese
and crackery charcuterie. I love me as charcuterie. I desired
a massive charcuterie board that year, just to prove that
I was capable of more than just bringing pepperoni and cheese.

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The following year, she texted us that in addition to
splitting up the menu, she we'd be purchasing all of
the ingredients for us. Instructed us to venmo her out
of share or out chair, and she would drop them
off with her preferred dishes that she would like them
served in the worst part is that while she has
an assigned sweet potato casserole to me because she doesn't
like it, she didn't even drop off fresh ingredients, half

(01:02:19):
a bag of stale marshmallows from her pantry and a
can of yams. That's rude.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
She's trying to sabotage your sweet potato casserole.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Or the right ingredients or right size dishes. And in
addition to venmoing her, I still needed to go out
and buy the ingredients for my dish. Last year was
particularly stressful with them in general, as there was a
lot of other family drama going on. The one sister
in law close with was going to be out of
town for the holiday with her family anyway, so I
put my foot down. I told my husband I refused

(01:02:50):
to spend the day with his mom and wanted to
have Thanksgiving at home with my family. He understood, and
my in laws had friends they were hosting anyway. Then
at the last minute, their plans fell through and they
had no one to spend Thanksgiving with, So of course
I agreed to invite them to our Thanksgiving. This year,

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we had all been avoiding the Thanksgiving conversation except my
father in law, who who was relatively oblivious to everything
and would talk about it every time we saw them.
As of everything was going back to normal. So in
the spirit of trying to heal all the stuff from
the past, I didn't argue and just waited for further
instruction from my mother in law. A few weeks ago,

(01:03:34):
she came to my house and basically politely uninvited us
WHOA stating that it's just a lot of people this year.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
You cannot invite someone from Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
That's that's yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
So messed up. There's a lot of people this year.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
But then you're gonna ostracize just op It's like, ridiculous.
I need context here.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
I cannot invite people for parties.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
For a context. It is a lot of people. She
had always invited my family over as well, which I appreciated.
And if she's telling me she feels it's too much
for her, who am I to argue? To be honest,
I was relieved to not have to spend the day
with her until I turned and looked at my daughter's
face and my husband's face when I told him, they

(01:04:20):
were both extremely hurt that they were being excluded.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
So sad.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Well, yeah, and you're like, oh, Thanksgiving, I mean, I
don't know. Well, yeah, it's a time you want to
spend with your family.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
And if someone's like if you were invited, and then
someone's like, you're actually not invited anymore?

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Yeah, I know. Opie was like, I don't like, this
is great, but I guess for her husband and her daughter,
they want to go see family. On the one hand,
it was understandable why she had chosen us, we have
a whole other family to celebrate with. But on the
other hand, her other children and grandchildren were still invited,
so they definitely felt not great. About it. To make

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it worse, she suggested that we do Thanksgiving at my
mom's house. My mom was fine with it, but I
thought it was a bit odd to go volunteering her
to host without even talking to her. And then everyone,
all the people that were too many people for my
mother in law to invite, could meet in my house
for pie and a bonfire.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
That's crazy. Why she just she's like, oh, well, you
can't come to my party, but maybe you could. Your
mom could host something, and then everyone can go to.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Your house, especially to all the people that yeah, you don't,
you know, don't excluding fine. My kids would be devastated
they didn't get to see their cousins for Thanksgiving. So
we'll make it work. I think I've been a really
good sport, even when she made it extra awkward by
not telling anyone that she had invited us, including her
own husband, who awkwardly asked what the plans were and

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she just hushed him and told him, don't worry about it,
don't worry about.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
It, don't worry about it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
Even when she lied to my eleven year old niece's
face when she asked her if my kids would be there,
and she told her of course, why wouldn't they be Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
And then she's gonna be like on Thanksgiving Day, she
could be like, oh, I don't know why they didn't
show up.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
Maybe they were sick.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Yum. I guess they don't care about the family.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
Why does Okay? The one thing I'm not getting from this,
why does mother in law not like you guys?

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
I know what's up with that?

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
What did you guys do like? She doesn't like you dessert.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
I think she doesn't like OP.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
I don't think she likes op. Yeah, she's making it
very I literally had to turn to my fourteen year old,
who witnessed the initial conversation, and asked if I had
imagined it. She assured me I had not. Fast forward
to two days ago and my husband gets a phone
call from his mom telling him that their plans fell

(01:06:38):
through again and would and would we like to come
after all?

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Huh No, it's probably she like the husband found out
or something was like, dude, you have to invite our son.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
I was gonna say the exact same thing, like, because.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
He says, dude too his wife, dude, dude, God invite
our sol.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Bad move, dude. From a logistical also, this is like
not the first time.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
No, this is doing this.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
I would be like, no, we're not coming. What would
you do?

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
I wouldn't go I was actively uninvited. I'd be like, no,
you've been invited us, so we're not going to go.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Stop making my plans get.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Yeah, you know, like we already planned to have people
come in our house now, so you can explain to
everyone why we're not there.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
From a logistical standpoint, we've already planned our menu for
my mom's thanksgaming and purchased a majority of the food.
But from a logistical standpoint, you can join us live
three pm weekdays, PSD on YouTube, Facebook, TikTok, Twitch, just
tap our profile tab. From a logistical.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Standest, purely logistically, but.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
There's another relevant update, so don't check those out just yet,
just a little bit after this is story.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Yeah, no, I think honestly, you just have your mom's
Thanksgiving party. Don't go to your mother in law's already
uninvited you, and then maybe just text a couple of
people that you're close to and be like, hey, we'd
run invited. So if you want to hop on down
up moms instead, poach, poach the people from your.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
Mother in law. Yeah, honestly make it all about you,
but don't invite them. Yeah. Also, yeah, you don't have
to invite them because you say it. Every year Thanksgiving
gets more and more stressful with her involved.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Honestly, just start yeah, host to stay uh competing Thanksgiving? Thanksgiving?

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
Who's going to join? You join? Especially if some people
have already talked to you about Oh, we don't like
mother in law, exactly take them. That's yeah, mother.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Lah, that's my advice.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
No, from a moral standpoint, no, just know why would
I want to go over there after all the frustrations
she put everyone through this year, And to top it off,
it really bothered me the way she went about it.
When she knew my husband might be upset, she came
to me to uninvite us. When she knew I would

(01:09:03):
be peeved to have to change plans again, she went
to him. It just feels so manipulative and cowardly. I
felt really justified in putting my foot down and saying no,
you made your bed, now lay in it. Except accept
everyone is unhappy. My kids are unhappy, my nieces are unhappy,

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my husband is unhappy. Am I the able for wanting
to just stick to the original plan to avoid my
mother in law as much as possible that day. I
don't want my pride to ruin everyone else's Thanksgiving, but
I also really don't want to spend it with her.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Yeah, don't see this is this different from the last
story that we read. It is where everyone was posted
on Facebook and she was like, this is just I
think just half the You've already planned this Thanksgiving out
with your mom. Yeah, so it's not even like your
pride is getting the way and you just already have
plans because you were uninvited to other ones.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Yeah, no it she she's was the hostess with the
mostest and then everything fell through. Sucks to suck. Yeah
that that your plants fell through. You can't just put
it on other people. But it does suck. That's the
moral standpoint of everyone else is said, yeah, what would
you do? Like I think I would still go, I mean,

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would you invite mother in law? And like everyone else like,
oh yeah, we just spend time with family and like
just biting tongues, and I.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Totally misunderstand they're inviting the mother in law to the moms.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Right now, I guess the mother in law is gonna
be involved with all their stuff. Now, Oh no ah,
I say, op because it's again it's not her ops Like, okay,
with missing on the mother in law, it's it's the nieces,
the cousins, the daughters. True that they miss out on

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a fun Thanksgiving, that's true, but they still have the moms.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Who's going to that?

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
You know what? Like this, you can just see like
this year, Hey, we're not gonna see mother in law unfortunately,
or grandma law will host a party. Yeah, we're gonna
have our own thing, our own shindig, or we're gonna
go to you know, Opie's mom's own party, and yeah,
have our own little shindig. I don't know. Yeah, she
doesn't deserve to just keep walking all over UOPI and

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everyone else during Thanksgivings. It's a family event. It shouldn't
be her event. Yeah, I agreed, But that's the end
of that story.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
My in laws hate me, but I refuse to apologize
to them.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
No apologies for them are deserved.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
This happened almost a year ago now, but I wanted
to get other people's opinions of the situation and that
I wasn't being Delulu. Sorry in advance, it's a little long.
I eighteen female, got with my now husband, twenty male,
who we will call Mark. Before we got married, I
hung out with Mark, his mom, who I will call Pax,
and sister eighteen female, who I will call Amy. You

(01:11:51):
got your eighteen you got married at eighteen. It's crazy.
By the way, this comes from.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Oh crazy, some people loved just want to get very.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Hey, that's quit crazy? Uh? I can this it a dry?
What a can this? It'd a dry? Fifty eight seventy
six on the Okay storytime separated?

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
What spell do you just put on me?

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
I can't it. When I first hung out with them,
they seemed pretty nice and seemed to like me, But
the situation changed when I got married to Mark. When
we first got married, Mark's mom wanted us to live
with her until we got a house, which we didn't
mind because as long as we were going to be together,
we didn't care. At first, everything was going great. We
all got along together and hung out together sometimes. Some

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red flags I should have seen at first, though, were
that his sister kept comparing me to his ex and
kept trying to push me to smoke. I've always hated
the smell of it, and it hurts my head. After
a month of us living there, I still wasn't that
comfortable around them because I am a very, very introverted person.
I usually hung out in my and Mark's room, but
I always helped around with cleaning and their other siblings.

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But Mark's mom started to get mad that I wouldn't
call her mom, and that's weird. For context, I used
to call her miss packs because I found it polite,
and my parents always said to be polite to people
and call the miss or mister. Also, what did people
even call their mother in law or father in law
when talking to them? But I wasn't that fond of
calling her mom because I wasn't even that close to

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her and had only known her for a few months
at the time. Well after she had a conversation with
Mark about it not me, she started to become more
rude towards me. She kept trash talking me behind my back,
saying that eventually I was going to cheat on Mark
and that he should leave me before it's too late.
And then I'm such a bee because I stole her
son away from her and that I was controlling him.

(01:13:42):
What she thought I was controlling him because he said
he wanted to stop smoking because I would hurt his throat.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
What what is this story? What is this story where like, oh, yeah,
smoking is the best faker.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Yeah, this is so strange, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
You can to everyone out there, you can do whatever
you want. It's your body, your choice.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Crazy that the mom want her son to keep smoking.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
But you should also respect other people's choices.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
So I kept trying to help him with that, and
when he would tell his sister and mom no whenever
they tried to give him a vape, this is crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
This is a really crazy story.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
He feels like one of those PSAs where it's like,
come on, it's cool, you should smoke, and the mom's like,
come on, it won't be any harm, and.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
They're like, no, be like Mark, it's literally sound was
like the very stereotypical be like Mark, Yeah, just say
no and get married at eighteen.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
And yeah, this feels like a Mormon commercial.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
I was gonna say, uh.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
They thought that I was forcing him not to smoke,
even though he himself told them he just wanted to
stop smoking. Mark's mom kept saying this and other things
to Mark and his sister. Soon after, Mark's sister also
started to dislike me because she also kept claiming that
I stole her brother from her and then compared me
to his ex even more after that. Meanwhile, while they

(01:14:56):
were trash talking me, they never told me about it
and kept acting night towards me. I only heard about
it from Mark, but I didn't want to say anything
about it to them because I didn't want to cause
any issues between them. While they were pretending to be
nice to me, they kept trying to force me to
open up to them and kept getting mad when they
would huddle up in his mom's room and talk, and
I wouldn't talk as much because I usually wouldn't know

(01:15:17):
what to say. One day, during these talks, for some reason,
his mom asked me and him if we had ever
done it yet spicy sleep and me and Mark kept
quiet and just gave each other a glance because we
both thought it was weird. When we said nothing, she
just randomly asked me if I had ever touched myself before?

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
Ugh, what the heck? Easy to get out of the
story were family family weird, family's weird?

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
And again I became uncomfortable because I have never talked
about stuff like this with anyone, not even my parents.
When I didn't say anything. She kept saying, just tell me.
You don't have to be ashamed. We've all done it,
we're all women. And I eventually said no, and then
she just pulled out her bag of toys and showed
me and said, look, I have all of these, and
if you want, I can give you one and you

(01:16:02):
can try it out. Oh my gosh, oh my god.
I would get out of there, get out of there.
I said no, but thanks though, because I'm a people
pleaser and hate not being polite or rude. And she said, okay,
well I at least want you to try playing with yourself.

(01:16:22):
Get out of there. I didn't say anything again, and
she said, well, your homework for.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Me is for you to touch yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Ah out out what the hell out?

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
And I just stood there in shock and didn't know
what to say or do. So I'm in an excuse
to leave and go back to my room. After that,
I did become a little more distant, but I never
once said anything about it, not even to Mark. You
gotta talk to Mark.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
Got talk more about that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
And around that time Mark had to work overtime sometimes
that we would get home late a few times. But
since I knew his mom loved talking. I would tell him,
are you not going to talk with them? And he
said no, he was too exhausted and tired. So we
would just pop in a room and say hi, good afternoon,
and that we were tired and we were going to
our room, and she never seemed to mind, because she

(01:17:13):
seemed to understand. It was around Christmas when everything went downhill.
For Christmas, we ended up going to my father in
law's house in the afternoon. His mom and dad are separated,
and everything was going well. We were playing around with
his other siblings and having a good time. Then it
came time for presents. I had gotten them each a

(01:17:34):
present because I would have felt bad if I went
empty handed, so I gave them each their things, and
everyone else opened up their other gifts, and we were
about to leave because it was getting late, but father
in law stopped and stopped us and said that he
felt bad because he didn't get me anything. I said
that it was all right, and I didn't mind because
my family never celebrated Christmas before anyways, and I was

(01:17:55):
just happy to being there. But he said to wait
real quick and left to get something and came back
with two guitars and said, you can have one of these.
I don't use them anyway. They just stay put. Take
whichever one you want, it doesn't matter to me. I said, no,
it's fine, really, I don't mind, and I would feel
bad taking one, and he kept reassuring me that it
was fine. Eventually he ended up asking Mark what my

(01:18:18):
favorite color was, and Mark said blue. And so, since
one of the guitars was dark blue, father in law
said take this one. I have a feeling that you
would like it since it's dark blue. Because he felt
bad for not giving me anything, so I said all right,
I will thank you, and he said no problem and
said that it was the least he could do. I'm
thinking maybe, I do think that maybe maybe he's gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
Be like she took my guitar, or the families like
you gave her a guitar, Like maybe why didn't you
give us a guitar? Like the guitar is so much
expensive then, like socks so much more than inspect than sogs.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
On the way back to the house, Mark's sister seemed
mad and asked what's wrong, and she said that guitar
was supposed to be mine because I always liked it
and that was my favorite guitar my dad had. And
I said, oh, I'm sorry I didn't know, and she said, no,
it's whatever, though I don't care, but she said it
with a nasty face.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
How old is do we have an eighteen eight No, no,
op's eighteen.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Yeah, they're all eighteen.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
They're all eighteen.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
They're all eighteen, well except for the op's husband now
twenty okay, but they're all like around eighteen.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
Oh okay, guys. I was like, wow, the sisters said
the sister sounds like she's sixteen, Like she just figured
it out herself.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
A few weeks after that, when me and her were
just in the kitchen, she brought up the guitar again
and kept saying it should have been mine, and you
shouldn't have gotten that one because you should have known
it was mine. I felt really bad and tired of
her arguing about it, so I said, if you want,
I can go get it and you can have it,
and she said, yeah, give me my guitar because it
shouldn't even even bend yours in the first place. I

(01:19:54):
felt bad giving her the guitar because it was something
my father in law gave me so I felt like
I was just giving away a present he gave me,
but I gave it to her anyway so she would
stop being mad. And the next morning, when I woke up,
the guitar was on the wall between my bedroom and
the bathroom, and I asked her why she didn't put
it in her room, and she said that she wasn't
going to take something that wasn't even meant for her.

(01:20:16):
I said, oh, okay, and put it back in my room.
And after that she didn't want to talk to me anymore.
And when she did, she said she was trying to
be mature and told me that I need to be
more mature and stop controlling Mark.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
Oh'll get out of all the lies.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
And after those talks, I soon found out that she
was talking crap about me to our coworkers and people
at school. I again didn't say anything because I didn't
want to cause a whole scene for no reason. Then
people came up to ask me why I'm being such
a bee and why do I think I can and
why do I think I can control anything? So I
would try and tell them what happened, and they said, oh,

(01:20:55):
I always told something different, and I said, yeah, I
kind of thought. So and they said, oh, I'll watch
out because she kept telling everyone that she was going
to fight you when she saw you.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
Who is his sister? This sister from the sister from
hockey sticks. Yeah, the families wild. The family's the dad's
like I didn't get you anything. Guitar, here's a guitar,
and then sisters like that's man, this family is whack whack.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
We had first period together and she never even talked
to me in that class. So I said, oh, okay,
because I wasn't that bothered because she kept saying that
for a while and I said, well, thanks for telling me.
Do you think high school which is crazy? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
No, this is even wilder her.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
Did you move out of your parents' house? What happened there?

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
Did we get like, I don't know. I think she
is she staying with Mark? Yeah, she's staying with Mark,
but she moved on her parents house. And you guys
got a merit what happened?

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
And giggled because I didn't know what to say. And
so after a few weeks or a month after this,
my parents told me they were fixing up a camper
and had it ready to rent out if we wanted
to we could live there for a little bit, which
I was very thankful for, and I wanted to say
yes right away. I said I will talk to Mark
about it, thank you, and she said no problem. So
I asked Mark and he said yes straight away. Also

(01:22:13):
because at this time his mom was pressuring him to
break up with me and calling me names even more.
And so we moved out and had to go back
and forth between taking her stuff to the camper and
getting our things from his mom's house. Since I showed
Mark the camper, his mom hated me even more because
apparently I was trying to separate them and brainwash him
into hating his mom, and so she told him that

(01:22:36):
I was no longer welcome into their house and if
I tried going, she was going to call the cops
on me.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
What is this family? They just want Mark, They don't
want Mark to leave the nest. But this is like extreme,
so extreme.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
So I couldn't even enter to get my things. So
Mark asked my siblings if they could go and help
him get most of our things, and they did.

Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
Soon after that, Mark went back to go so get
the last bit of our things that were in the house.
But when he went in there to get my guitar
and a cat tree we left. The cat tree, uh oh,
and a cat tree we left. The cat tree was ripped,
and she wouldn't even let him get the guitar because
she claimed that I never even played it and it
was supposed to be hers anyway. And he said, but

(01:23:19):
she tried giving it to you, and you gave it
back because you wanted to throw a fit. And she said, whatever,
then take that stupid piece of crap. And so we
finally got everything. After that, I thought everything was going
to be fine, but then for some reason, my mom
wanted to have a meeting with us and Mark's mom
to make sure. We asked her if we could have

(01:23:41):
moved out. Why do you have to ask to move out?

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
Aren't you guys adults? I mean they still in high
school though, that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
I don't know. Well, it wouldn't because March.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
Two, yeah, March twenty. But like, this is weird. This
is weird, which.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
I'm guessing his mom complained to my parents about. And
so when we got there, my parents told me to
eat first and we'll talk after I finished eating, which
I said, no, oh, I lost my appetite now to
my dad, he said that I need to stop lying.
I said, how am I lying? And he said because
mis Pax told me that you were rude to her
and talked back to her and never said good morning
and good evening to her. And he had to translate

(01:24:13):
what he said to my mom, and my mom got
mad at me and said, you need to stop talking
back and you need to apologize for being rude in
Spanish because she doesn't know English. In Spanish, I told
my mom, I'm not going to apologize because they didn't
do anything wrong, and she only complained to them because
she wants everything to go her way and she just
wanted them to force me to apologize to her, and

(01:24:33):
that I'm not going to because she's not a little
kid who can just go crying to adults and get
her way. My mom got mad and started saying it
doesn't matter. You still have to apologize anyway, and my
dad cut in said you better apologize or I'm going
to hit you. Oh my god, oh wow, no, And
I said, I don't care hit me if you want,
but I'm not going to apologize because they haven't done
anything wrong. And then Mark's mom got up from her

(01:24:56):
seat and said, you know what, I'm just gonna leave
because I can tell that she isn't going to apologize,
and then walked off. This is so much.

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
Why what's the mom? What's with the sister? It seems
like that like Mark's dad's fine, marx Dad's the coolest GI.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
Yeah, it's the guitar. Everyone else is a.

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
Night everyone else is a nightmare.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
Then the next day in school, I heard from someone
that Mark's sister has been telling everyone that I cussed
out Mark's mom, which is not even near the truth,
and I told her that she needs to stop lying
and stop talking about something that she wasn't even there for,
and she just walked away all pissed and still kept
talking about it. Then I posted something on TikTok, which
I admit was childish, but at the time I was

(01:25:39):
sixteen and didn't care. I posted to the sound Euphoria
by Kendrick Lamar, the trend that goes, I hate the
way you walk, the way you talk, and I guess
she had been telling everyone everything to marx X because
marx X kept viewing my profile and then commented on
that video saying, there's two sides to every story.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
Okay, this is high school, so it is high school.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
It seems like at the time they weren't married at
that point. Okay, it seems like they weren't married at
that point they were just dating. Okay, and OHPI was
also living in Mark's house anyway at sixteen.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
I it wasn't very Yeah, I guess I'm confused.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
By it, Yeah, because it seems like, oh, he's still
someone in contact with her parents. So I'm like, what's
going on.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
I don't know what's going on. Maybe she's staying there.
Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
Yeah, there's some missing information here, which I found ironic
because she didn't ask for my side but kept attacking me.
I said, why is she even commenting? It wasn't even
about her, and then she never responded. So now Mark
Sex keeps trying to text Mark saying that I have
people attacking her and are so and so are all
my little dogs quote unquote, which is funny because I

(01:26:48):
literally only have like four close friends and I have
never even talked to Mark Zex or mentioned her name,
so I have new So I have no clue what
Mark's sister told her that I said about her. And yes,
I know that Mark's sister told her I said something
about her because she texted it to Mark one time.
I have the receipts. By the way, I have no
clue why you guys wouldn't join us live every weekday

(01:27:09):
at three pm PSD on YouTube, Facebook and TikTok. Just
top her profile, just tap it so easy and there
is a little bit more. But it seems like Opie,
from what I'm understanding, was dating Mark at sixteen. Yes,
I guess, moved into Mark's family's house.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
They don't like her because she's taking Mark away.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
She's taking Mark away, trying to actively force her out
of the house and then get her parents involved, and
her parents are like probably very strict in something. Uh,
there's probably I mean, there's got to be some sort
of complicated situation going on there if she's living with
her at the time point.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
Yes, friend, I mean you saw what the dad said.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
Yeah, so it's got to be something on something very
not Yeah. And then I guess at eighteen, she's still
living with them after two years of experiencing this and
is now married to him.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
I don't, Yeah, I feel like there's a little not
unnecessarily unreliable narrator it's just like I need a better
cleaned up timeline.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Yeah, I think that you need to as soon as possible,
as soon as you saved enough, get out of there.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
My one thing is what's Mark saying in all of this?
I mean, we haven't gotten anything from Mark?

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
Marks just like okay, yeah, I mean he like kind
of stood up to his sister.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
But he hasn't like defended ohp or like something that
we're hearing at least, No, but like something is just like,
there's so many main characters here, yeah, and Mark is
one of the biggest characters because it's what ties it
all together. And Mark seems like he's not involved at all.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
No, but there's a little bit less to the story.
So let's see if Mark jumps in try to help.
But after that, Mark stopped talking to his mom because
whenever he would try to, she would always bring me
up in a negative way and Mark was tired of it,
so he doesn't talk to her or his sister anymore.
But Mark's sister has been going around the family telling
everybody and everybody her version of the story and saying

(01:28:58):
that I'm rude and and that she puts curses on me.
But at this point, I don't care about whatever she
says because I'm tired of it and so is Mark.
But no matter what, whenever we go hang out with
Mark's family, they always tell me, why don't I just
apologize and stop being so childish? So am I the
a whole? And there are some notes to clarify.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
Okay, okay, yes, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
When all this happened, I was sixteen and Mark was eighteen. Yes,
I know we married early, so I guess they married
at sixteen. My parents are very religious and think the
couples should marry if they are sure they want to
be together forever. If there are any questions, I will
answer and that is the end of that story. Man
oh man. So I'm I'm honestly a little bit confused

(01:29:41):
whether or not they're still living with Mark's family.

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
There was like you just eem a very like and
then this, yeah, and you're gonna just take it with
no contact. Yeah, okay, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
There's a possibility that they're not still living with the family, or.

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
Maybe the guitar. Yeah, I don't know. The guitar thing
also like stood out to me, like, oh, my father
in law gave me the guitar.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
Actually, I just realized they're not still living with the family.
They must be living in the camper because they moved
everything out so they Yeah, they must still be living
in the camper.

Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
But I guess she was living when because she said
this was all happening when she was sixteen. Yeah, so
I guess then she was living with him, with Mark
at with sixteen.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
At sixteen and married him. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
Interesting. But you don't owe them an apology.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
No, no, don't apologize, just don't, which just seems like
you guys aren't really talking to them anyway, which is
a good idea.

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
Good on These people are crazy good on Mark too,
just like my family sucks. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
No, as soon as you can limit contact with all
of them, it seems like that might be the way
to go, the best thing you can do. But that
is the end of that story and the end of
this episode. So if you love us, make sure to subscribe.

Speaker 3 (01:30:47):
We love you and see you tomorrow.

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