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Speaker 3 (00:12):
Two of my exes came back into my life and
things are getting confusing. X marks the spot. This is
an anime on crunchy Roll. Trigger warning for mentions of
self harming thoughts. Honestly, this is gonna be incredibly hard
for me to sum up. My name is Alex male,
thirty six, and I have two ex'es, Ava female thirty

(00:35):
six and Rachel female thirty four. Up front, there's a
lot of context I can't really put in here, both
for space and for fear of being too easily identifiable.
I'm keeping this as anonymous as possible. By the way,
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Speaker 1 (00:56):
So I'm preemptively getting the whiteboard. We all have three character.
I feel like there's gonna be more.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Dakota can't handle the three characters.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
It's just too much. No, I'm just getting it ready, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
I've known Avas since we were eleven. We met at school,
kind of what those K through twelve prep schools. We
met in the middle school portion of things. She's about
two months older than me, and we were close pretty
much immediately. We didn't really start dating until after we
graduated and ended up by coincidence, both going to the
same college in the same major. That's a lot of coincidences.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Mminky dink, I don't buy it.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
It felt like fates and we started dating after a
supposedly platonic BIRTHA hangout became less so fairly quickly. We
almost moved in quickly. About four months after we started
seeing each other, things got strained when her dad got sick.
I went with her back to her family home in Montana,
where she and her big butt family.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Maybe just large big family, big butt family, huh, or
she and.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Her big family. She has six brothers, she's the only sister.
Weasley's huddled together and mourned, and I very much was
out of place. I'm not mad about that. It's just
a fact I did get to meet her dad, and
he did seem to approove of me.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Which I did appreciate.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
I feel would they not have met having like kind
of grown up together.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
I thought they went they right, they were school friends.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
No, he's known Ava since she was eleven, but maybe
they weren't like really like t oh, go home to
that place.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
It's just like a her.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
He never went to any event. That's kind of crazy.
How does he not know him? A lot of Ava's
friends from before we met reconnected with her, including Douchebie
I'll call Todd male twenty seven. But I wasn't going
to try and tell her who to grieve with anyway.
After her dad passed. I still don't know what he
was sick with. She was a wreck and decided to

(02:56):
stay with her mom and brothers for a while. Did
this man know anything about the girl that he was dating?

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Why?

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
He doesn't know what her father passed away from.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Well, I mean sometimes he never met her. He's known
her since she was eleven. It could have been like
a weird illness or like a.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
But you don't ask, You're not like, oh my god,
Like I'm like, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Like what is he sick? Maybe he did and she
was just like he's it's a you know what.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Maybe she told him and she was like, it's insert
really long, hard to say illness, and he was like.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Whoop, yes, stripped a cooclnumental funnel geangalis.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
I figured that was fine.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
I was more than happy to stay if she needed
me too, But I did also have to deal with
my own issues, because my own dad was sick around
the same time and has been for years. Cancer and
his lungs, his back, even inside his brain. He kept
fighting it off. It would be in remission and then
it would come back somewhere else inside him. I honestly
think they'd sent me off to school so I'd not

(03:55):
see him in decline. I ended up having to go
back to West Virginia and spend a month there. My
dad passed, and I stayed with my mom, Sharon female
fifty eight, and my sister Jess female twenty eight, and
helped with all the tedious things you have to do
when someone passes. Dad had basically drafted up a will
deciding who got what, not that there was much to get.

(04:17):
I was nineteen and Jess was twenty one at the time,
and we were both in school, so mostly the little
money left was to take care of Sharon or keep
our tuition paid. During this period of time, I hadn't
been able to really keep in touch well with Ava.
I texted her and called, but she was occupied in grieving.
And while I was sad about Dad, I also knew
that in his case, it was merciful that he finally passed.

(04:40):
I decided instead of trying to call or text, I
just head back in surprise her. Well, I don't know
if that's the best idea when someone's grieving. Yeah, I
don't know if we want to just show up on
their door. Maybe give a little heads up.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, maybe a text being like, hey, do you need anything, Yeah,
have the emotional space for me to come over.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
I didn't know I would also be surprising Todd. Oh
in our apartments.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Oh well, it's Todd.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
You might think there was a screaming fight or something.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
There wasn't.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
I saw them, saw their faces as they disentangled on
the couch and turned and walked out the door.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yikes. It was just a weird stretch routine. It's just
super Really, it was just yoga. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Slept on campus for a while. Thanks to a very
supportive adjunct professor, got my own place stayed well the
f away from Ava, couldn't talk to her, felt like
I crack open if I did. It took me two
years to get over her. And also Madeline Jane has
a good point. I think he's going back to his apartment. Yeah,
we that was clarified. In fact, I didn't until Rachel

(05:56):
fell off the ladder and on to me. What like, literally,
there's a Rachel and she fell off the ladder and heavens,
I'm sorry, is this not a plot line to an anime?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
I mean it could be a Hallmark movie.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
This is like romance. Do you know the anime romance Killer?

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Nope?

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Okay, this is like romance Killer, but with a man or.
I was about to graduate when that happened. Rachel was
very different from Ava. Ava was somewhat reserved, obsessed with
excelling at school and in her chosen field, was always
trying to make her whole family proud. Rachel had a
it's complicated with her family, but was a grinner, a
bit of a troublemaker, and honestly the hottest woman I've

(06:39):
ever seen in my entire life.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yes, still, but mostly I like that she grins a lot.
She grins so much. Wow, Ava was beautiful. Rachel was
so much more emotional, empathetic and just plain fun to
be around that I fell in love with her, despite
trying very hard not to.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
We were married within a year.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Wow, it doesn't feel like you tried hard at all. Nah,
you try and marry zero percent within a year.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
I had just graduated and was working in my field.
I was basically a half stuff above an intern. But
my foot was in the door and so far my
shoe had it and then crushed yet And for two
years it was great until Rach's harmful substance user drink user,
which manger of a father showed up. Wow, let's call

(07:33):
him Pig, because fim pig and he was probably in
his late fifties at the time, and now he's been
closing in on seventies.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
You could have picked a different name that doesn't make
him sound cool, arguably pig. Yeah, dude, you've never met
anyone named Pig, have you? No? I've exclusively all the
people I've met with the name Pig are cool.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
How many people have you met named pig? Not a lot?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Like a couple and it's like a it's a nickname.
But they were with our hard workers, okay, and they're cool.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
I have a joke, but I don't want say it
big and I fought a lot. We thought about all
the money he was draining out of Rach. We thought
about how often and casually he would crush her emotionally
and leave her feeling worthless. The wild, somewhat rebellious, always
adventurous woman I felt so hard for got washed out
and gray whenever her dad was around. I'm not proud

(08:24):
of the next thing, especially since he used it perfectly.
I went out to try and bond with the a hole.
In my defense, I didn't know half the crap he
was up to at the time, and he got me
stone wasted and took pictures of me with a woman
he found at a bar and showed them to Rache.
You're gonna say, and she believed her awful dad or

(08:44):
you and man. I felt that exact way for years.
But my therapist made a point about how living in
a harmful situation f'su up and I figured it made sense.
We tried to tough it out for a couple of months,
but she was broken and I lost sure, as is
my wont I ghosted the whole situation, moved, changed my number.

(09:05):
What dude, that's like.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Your EMO, as is my wont I'm.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Sorry, He's like, you know what, ghost I ghosted?

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Changed my number? Oh my god. That makes you look
maybe just a little bit guilty.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
A little bit.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
She's gonna go to her friends and be like, yeah,
my ex husband cheated on me. He swore he didn't
do it, but then he like ghosted me and changed
his number and led the country crazy. That's insane. That
was about ten years ago.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Ah ah.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Things sucked personally, but I was doing fairly well in
my career. In fact, I ended up being called as
an expert witness in a lawsuit that involved Eva, who'd
been one of the people who worked on the project
and had correctly pointed out that the design in question
needed specific materials or it would fail. This is a
freaking animate There's too many coincidences.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Architects, texts, architects. What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Well?

Speaker 1 (10:09):
What is I don't know?

Speaker 2 (10:09):
What is? What?

Speaker 1 (10:11):
What does she do? Project?

Speaker 3 (10:12):
And incorrectly, she's probably an engineer that the designing question
needed specific materials or it would.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Fail, because I think they were Yes, that is engineering.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Well, I didn't think much about Ava as a girlfriend.
She was clearly both conscientious and thorough and her documentation,
and I did kind of admire that it was weird
to see my cheating X again, but I tried to
be professional because I didn't want to screw up the
suit and get punted. After that was over, we exchanged
a few words, nothing major, but she inquired about my father.

(10:43):
It occurred to me that I never actually told her
what had happened, and shared that he'd passed away while
I was in West Virginia, which hit her harder than
I'd expected.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
He never told her that his dad passed away.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
But didn't his dad pass while they were still together?

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Nod? He passed afterwards, Yeah, I think from my memory.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah. Yes.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
We didn't really see each other for another year or so,
but at a conference I ran into her and a
group of her friends, and some of which had been
my friends once. One of them, Olivia female twenty seven,
wanted to buy me a drink. Ooo, everyone's everyone's trying
to get with OPI. Apparently Ava had told everyone the

(11:27):
story of me showing up at her court case and
proving that she'd done her job properly. And I ended
up carefully drinking a few with them while they talked
about their lives. I ended up just slightly buzzed I'd
learned my lesson from Pig, and suddenly alone with Ava,
so bolstered by liquid courage, I finally asked the question

(11:48):
I'd been curious about for some seven or eight years.
Why Todd she hadn't even seen.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
The guy in gears?

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Why hook up with him? And why in our apartment?

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Well?

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Ava told me some I almost wish I didn't believe,
but her demeanor was so unguarded that I kind of do.
She decided to take herself off the board, so to speak,
but she didn't want me or anyone to mourn her.
She called the house and found out I'd already left
and was on the way back home, and so, with
a limited amount of time to hand, she called up Tod,

(12:19):
got him to drive her back to her apartment and
make sure she'd get caught that way. I'd hate her
and wouldn't care if she wasn't around anymore. At this point,
you're yelling things at the screen. It took all that
I had not to scream at her myself, instead finding
myself sitting there and blinking. Once I'd left, she summarily
dismissed Tod and prepared to shuffle off, but instead she

(12:44):
fell apart and called one of her brood of brothers,
and soon the swarm was in my old apartment.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Oh well, I mean that's good Leon your sports system.
Yeah wow.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I don't like Ope's response, being like I would wanted
to scream at her and be like, is that is
that the reaction that we find immediately when someone tells
us this?

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Oh I think maybe I'm reading that as like, why
would you even like think that I would? Ever? You know,
after a few weeks to pass all this, I decided
to at least start talking to Ava again. We were
friends for years before we got together. I cared about
her and we did have a lot in common. Crappy girlfriend, yes,

(13:23):
but she'd been wounded and I know full well how
it feels and what it does to you. As for Rach,
she showed up at my door about six months ago. Okay,
she'd gotten ripped in the last few years. Let me
tell you, still a few inches shorter, but incredible definition.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Did you think she did grow inches shorter? Did you
think she she was gonna grow taller. He's like, ah,
she didn't. She's still shorter than me, but she's ripped.
Why are we comparing these two women like their WWE
action figures.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Oh is he saying shorter than I think that's the
same self.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I think shorter than Ava. Maybe I don't know. This
does make sense. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
She told me she figured out her dad was lying
after she had to come pick him up from one
of the many bars he frequents and found him and
the girl he'd taken pictures of me with unconscious in
a booth. But like I said, I ghosted her, so
she had no idea where to find me. Good job. Ope,
you need therapy. Stop ghosting people like you are wont
to do so. Instead, somewhere along the way, she decided

(14:29):
to work with that anger, turned herself into an effing Amazon,
and dealt with her crappy old man herself.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Then she came looking for me. God, she gonna attack you.
This sounds like just like a black widow. She's like,
I found you. I've been hunting you down for years.
The last thing you see before the end.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
I'm positive she's leaving some things out, like maybe she
talked to Jess. She and Jess had gotten along when
we were married. Regardless right or wrong, I fell back
into bed with Rachel as soon as she mentioned even
the slightest interest. I couldn't deny or anything when we
were married, and I can't do it now either. So here,
I am almost thirty seven soon. For the last four months,

(15:15):
I've been sleeping with my ex wife while talking to
my ex girlfriend. Super straightforward, cool, Wow, I thought. Shelton says,
I thought it was want, but Dakota.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Said won't, and I thought I was wont No, he
said I won't to do? Is it won't? I won't
to do? I don't know. He's speaking in old English.
Do you tell me well wanton? Yeah, I think it
is want winton, but he said I want. I said,
I think I think it's spelled won't, but it does
want to do. Yeah, I am want to do. That
makes more sense. Winter One t.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yeah, you just got like I said, won't want or won't,
So I just thought I was trying to me anyway.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
It's it's want.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Everyone my bad who I am fifty to fifty on
potentially wanting more? She hasn't said so, and I'm not
sure if I could really trust her, even with her
crazy I hope made up story about self deletion Rach. Meanwhile,
we haven't really talked about well anything, not her believing
her dad, not how she found me after eight plus years,

(16:25):
what actually happened to Pig.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
I think she handled him. Sounds like she took care business.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
She's gotten a bit more aggressive and doesn't seem to
want to talk about emotions much at all. But sometimes
after we get together, she curls up in my arms
and shakes a little, and I really wish I could
get brave enough to ask her what she wants. So, yeah,
I have no idea what either of them actually want,
and not even sure what I want if either of
them told me.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
So what do I do?

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Do I ask them? How the A do you ask someone?

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Are we just friends? Or have you been dating me
this whole time? Are so just spicy sleep? Or are
we back together? And not end up pissing anyone off?

Speaker 1 (17:05):
You just ask them that, No, dude, just like delete
your number.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, movestates ghost everybody as he disappears, as you are
wont to do, That's that's the new solution, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
You just disappear off the face of the earth. Oh dude,
you just freaking tell speak.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
That's also like the thing he was like, how do
you even ask someone, Hey, are we just friends?

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Or have you been dating this?

Speaker 3 (17:29):
You asked them that, Yeah, you already did it, just
like that, just that.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
What are we doing?

Speaker 3 (17:35):
This guy needs therapy and a communication coach. I honestly
can't figure out what I should be saying here. Please
tell me how to deal with this. Edits Oh my god,
things got so much weirder and we're gonna pause. Uh.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
I thought that was gonna be a short edit, but
it seems like it's got information. Uh, do you have
any thoughts? I don't know if this guy should date
either of these. I agree, I think he should probably
find some one knew dude. I agree.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
I'm sorry the fact that like again, but well, actually,
before I even say this, obviously there's no excuse for cheating.
But I think that if I had a partner who
was in like such a terrible state, I'd ask a
couple questions, you know, like I see her with this guy,
I'd ask a couple questions Before I disappeared off the

(18:24):
face off the earth and blocked her number. If my
girlfriend was in abusive state or an abusive kind of
situation with a father and believed that I'd cheated, I'd ask,
you know, I'd ask more questions.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
He's not doing any of that.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
He's just like my Yeah, He's like, dang, do you
think I cheated. I'm just gonna act like I did
by ghosting you and losing your number and moving to
a new place without telling you.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
He doesn't even know what he wants. He doesn't know
what he wants. He's just like, oh, I like I
like these pretty women. Yeah, it is true. How do
you Yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:00):
And it's like, oh, and then we you know, you're
living together. After four months with Ava, you're married in
a year.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Like to Rachel, he's going too fast.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
He's going way too he does like he speeds run.
He speed runs his relationships. He gets together, he moves in,
he marries them, and then he leaves them within the
span of like two years. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Cat's got a great idea. What vacation gaycation the.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Mandy of the gacation edits Oh my god, things got
so much weirder. I talked to Ava last night and
just I'll do an update after I get rached to
have a real conversation. At least one of my decisions
have been made. Ava and I aren't gonna rekindle our
relationship that much is for sure.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
I mean, she's probably in a totally different headspace.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Now you shouldn't do that. And also you're rekindling both
of them anyway. It's just a matter of how much
kindling it's going to.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Does the kindle learn, does the kindle make the fire
roars the kids?

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Can you throw me? That blanket is freaking cold in here?
It's all right, It's okay.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
It's really heavy and I don't have a lot of strength.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
No, that's okay. I'll just let that being on camera
speak itself.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
So it's like four am here and I'm wiped out.
But I have an update that shakes up a lot
of things show at this point. Two days ago, after
I wrote the original post, I mail thirty six, got
Ava female thirty six on the phone, and we agreed
to meet up and talk. At first, it was a
lot of empty talk, you know, what's up, what's going on?

(20:38):
Blah blah. Finally I told her that Rachel and I
had reconnected. I told her I had been married and divorced,
but no real specifics, and that it wasn't just platonic.
Ava didn't react much, which isn't unusual for her, Honestly,
she's always been fairly unemotional, at least most of the time.
But I wasn't expecting what she next told me, namely

(21:00):
that she was currently seeing Olivia female twenty seven and
wasn't really exactly interested in a relationship with me, at
least not one where we'd be exclusive with each other. Instead,
what she was hoping for was that I'd be willing
to help them conceive a child. Oh what via donation?
By the way, Wow, She's like, yeah, I can't. I

(21:24):
came back to talk to you.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
I don't. I don't want to be in a relationship
with you.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
I don't want to be in a relationship with you.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
But you're hot. Yeah. I don't want all this, but
I want all this. I want that.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
As Ava put it, I'm good looking, fit, smart, almost
as smart as her was how she put it, which
I have to say, is peak Ava in terms of
wanting a favor from someone, and we always had a
lot in common.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Brother, This is not a favor. A favor is how
you're phrasing.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
It like that.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, this is like a this is this is more
than a favor. You put your genetics sound there, dude.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
I'm not as emotionally disconnected as her, and she's not
as good at hyperfocus as I can be, but we're
still pretty similar people. She figured if Olivia got pregnant
with me as a donor, it'd be pretty close to
if she got Olivia pregnant. This was also why she
wasn't asking her brothers. She'd always been the odd one
out in her family until she met me. She never

(22:21):
knew anyone who was as much like her as I was.
We've even had similar trauma in our lives, and we
both tend to react to bad news or trauma in
the same way, try and find a way to escape
and avoid confronting it.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
No way.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
You guys are like the only two people who do that.
You guys are meant for each other because no one
else does that does that.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
This isn't a good thing, mind you, It's just something
she said that I had to agree with. She avoids
pain by trying to break things off before she can
feel it, and I do it by running away from
it and Olivia. I had started to hatch this plan
once we all met at the conference, and after Ava
found out about my dad, she felt guilty and thought
maybe it would be a good thing for all of us.

(23:03):
Olivia would have the kids she wanted. Ava and I
might get back to being real friends again, and I'd
get to be a dad, something I had said I
was interested in back in the day.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Are you sure?

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Though it doesn't sound like their arrangement is like, and
we want you to father the child.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
That is a yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
It sounds like they're like, hey, can you like provide
the ingredients? And then I guess thank you.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
The question is how involved would you be in the
kid's life. I don't remember the particular conversation, but Ava
tends to remember things like that and file them away,
While if it had been a post spicy sleep conversation,
I likely was barely aware of what I was saying.
I mean, i'd been nineteen. Ava admitted that she was
still attracted to me, but she didn't want to f
up her current relationship with Olivia, and she also didn't

(23:50):
want to f up whatever I am going on with Rachel.
She'd blown up a good thing once in her life.
And didn't want to do that again. I appreciated that,
and our talk really helped me realize that whatever Ava
and I had ever had, it has always been more
like a friendship. Anyway, We've only dated because it felt
like we should, like it was inevitable. I told her

(24:10):
i'd think about donation, told her to get me details
on the clinic and how that all would go. I'll
need to hear from Olivia and see how much she
really wants to do this before I even think about it. Plus,
maybe it's just plain not a great idea. I'm still
a little stunned, but aside from the whole at the
end of the guy so you'll hate me and run
so I can leave the world a thing that still

(24:33):
has me completely my deft and has given my therapist
quite a lot to talk about with me. Ava and
I were friends for years, and I do miss being
able to have someone who understands me the way she does. Still,
we're not really interested in each other. Rachel wasn't harder
to get in touch with, so I got her to
meet up with me for a coffee, but she kept

(24:54):
being distractingly flirty and tried to avoid the discussion and
Finally I just blurted out something along the lines of Rachel, I.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Still love you, Please talk to right. Yeah that was great.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Ope, that was the best option you could have gone with,
for sure. Scary screaming at her, I love out scary, scary. God,
that made her cry, which I have only seen like
two times, and both were when we were breaking up
seven or eight years ago. Not gonna lie. I cried
a bit too. We ended up talking for a while,

(25:28):
agreed to get together again that night yesterday as I
type this, and she'd tell me what she'd been up
to and what happened over the time we've been apart.
I was nervous. I think she was two. We've both
lived very different lives for a long while. She came
over around seven and we spent the next few hours
finally having that talk. Y'all told me we should have

(25:48):
had months ago. She left pigs somewhere in Texas six
plus years ago, beat the effor up after he tried
to lay hands on her, something he usually never did
because emotional abuse worked better for him. But the details
are hers, not mine to share. She spent some time
working as a bouncer. Arms like hers. I could see
it and also did some personal training gigs in California,

(26:10):
especially in Irvine, dated a few people girls and guys.
Ohpi's just Dayton buys left and right. I was right
by the way. She found me Viajess. She and Jess
reconnected over their mutual love of tattoos, and she's actually
known where to find me for three years but couldn't
make herself reach out. Last year, however, her mom found her.

(26:31):
I don't think I mentioned it, but her mom, marian
female sixty two, was with Pig for a few years
and then ran off with when Rachel was like two.
She thought her mom just abandoned her in Pig and
that's what made Pig the craphead he was, since she
had good memories of him as a dad. But no,
her mom told her that she'd finally smarten up and

(26:52):
was get a split, and so Pigs stole Rach and
left and tried.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
It's a bad pig. Yeah, he sucks, real bad pig.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Marianne tried to find her, but then fell into a
bottle herself, and it took her a long time to
clean up and get any sort of clue where Pig
and Rach were also also Rach is not her real name.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that Pig would call
her a different name to throw off being found.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Whoa wait, whoa?

Speaker 3 (27:20):
So he kidnapped the kid, her kid, I guess their kid,
and then changed her name.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Man, Pig was really he sucked? He was He was
rolling around in that in the mudd puddle. Yeah, wow,
his dad's dirt. That's a dirty move.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
This is a crazy story. Why is OPI's life so insane?

Speaker 1 (27:39):
This is a little insane.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Well maybe that's just what happens when you become By
the time he gets to thirty seven, you just.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Have so many stories to tell. She's like, whoa, my
ex wife, my ex girlfriend of back? Oh my god,
that back again.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Amy Len says, that won't do. Pig, that won't do.
But when Marianne found Rach and they had their talk
about things, Rach felt like she could come find me.
So now here we are with a ton of baggage
for both of us. I don't know if we can
really make it as a couple. She's wounded in so
many effing ways, and so am I. She's stronger than

(28:18):
I remember her being physically. I'm sure, and she was
always strong, but she's also really afraid to let herself
care and then lose it again. And part of that
fear is because of me and how I ran instead
of staying when crap got hard. Yeah, I'm already in therapy,
and like most of the commenters said, rach really needs
some too. So the final tally of our discussion, I

(28:43):
still love her. She still loves me, told me she
never really stopped and felt awful she'd pushed me away,
even though I think it was mostly me running away.
We're both different people and we can't keep effin instead
of talking. So we're gonna take a break from spicesly
for a while. This will not be easy for me
because her body is a work of art. But in

(29:05):
the end, the spicy sleep is the least important thing here. God,
he's become so self aware now, he's like, I get it.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
I like the part where he was like, she said
she pushed me away, but I think I remember ghosting her,
switching my number and leaving down.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
What she did.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
She went, she went h and then hadn't even touched him,
And he was like, yeah, you turn on the rocket engine.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, yeah, he really said meet me, meet me.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
We are actually going to go on dates. We didn't
really do that the first time. Eck, everything went super
fast the first time taking it so might be good.
Do you even know how to take it? So we'll
find out. She's afraid of therapy but willing to try it.
I'm gonna ask my therapist if they can recommend someone.
After some individual counseling, we may try couples to see

(29:56):
how well we work for each other. I am legit
terrified that this won't work. I'm also legit terrified it
will because that would mean I'd be in a healthy
relationship and.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
I don't know what one of those even looks like.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, she's asleep in my bedroom right now as I
type this. She didn't want to leave, and I didn't
want her to either. I'm afraid I'll if it all
up again. I'm afraid she'll realize she doesn't need me
and take off, or I'll try to avoid the hard
times again.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
But I think maybe I'm crazy, but I really do
think it could work.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
And even if it doesn't, if it helps her, if
she gets better and leaves, I'd still be happy she
got better.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Sunset sunset. There is a second update, Sam. Here we're
gonna get back to the stories. But here's three of
its bads from our sponsors.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Sometimes I just wish I could fill people's brains up
with rocks. Because this guy feels like he's just thinking
too much.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
I think he's got rocks in his seat. Stop thinking
so much.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, just be like I love Rachel, Rachel loves me.
Don't be like, ah love. Let's all go to therapy.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
That's all that matters. That's it.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, replace the rocks in your brain that make you
run away from your relationship with rocks that just make
you go.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Do you want to go to like mini golf?

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Do you want to go ax throwing?

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Do you want to sep strong talk about our shared
Do you want to desire trauma or trauma?

Speaker 1 (31:30):
I guess are traumas?

Speaker 3 (31:31):
But folks, there's a second update. Let's go Update two.
Me and Rachel ups and downs. Not really looking for
advice at this part, just telling folks what's the current situation.
Rach and I have been cohabitating since last month. This
is not taking it slow. You're living together.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Stop doing this thing that you do. This is fast.
You're in the warp speed tunnel.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
He's like, yeah, we're cohabiting, that's living together. They were
married at some point. Yeah, but if he wants to
take it slowed the rules. No, she's had two therapy
sessions and says she likes the doctor. I don't know her,
but that's fine and it's not like I need to
which doctor. Yeah, the twelfth, the twelfth, the ninth, the eleventh.
There is a lot of abuse in other crap between
her and that pig who pretended to be her father,

(32:19):
and until she decides to share the details with me,
I'm giving her space to work on it. My therapist
has told me that I have a problem with running away.
Your therapist just so good at pointing out the obvious
and gave me some reading on avoidant attachment, which may
be a part of why I do that instead of
just dealing with my problems. This is like in Dora

(32:43):
when she's like, do you see swiper?

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Oh, he's going do you see it?

Speaker 3 (32:49):
My avoidant attachment? I don't see it.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Say I love you three times and maybe I'll run
away or maybe I'll move in with you.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
We've said we love each other. I have straight up
giving up booze because I am depressed when I drink.
She's dragged me back to the gym. Truth be told.
I was keeping active anyway because my day job can
be really sedentary. But now I'm starting to get ripped again.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
You're gonna get so.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Ripped for all that running you're to do, You're gonna
get swollen from all those torn muscle fibers that rebuild themselves.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Wow, I don't think I mentioned it, but I'm actually
taller than Rach.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
I think you did mention that. Oh wait, so that
was loud. It's like, yeah, she's still shorter.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
It's not how he's working for a real Amazonian seven
and a half feet tall. Yeah, three hundred pounds of
straight up muscle as someone who could pinch your head
with their thumb and index finger.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Who is herself really tall? For a woman six six
feet and change? Whoa she really is an Amazon? In
the past two weeks have started moving me in a
good direction physically. It's early days, but still enjoyable. Rachel
doesn't want me to donate to Ava's girlfriend, so I'm
not going to understandable. She's probably like, yeah, I don't
really want you to donate to your ex girlfriend while

(34:14):
we're getting together. Yeah, I think a better thing is,
what do you want out of that?

Speaker 1 (34:19):
GEA? Do you like it's all good? Rachel being like, hey,
maybe don't do that, but like is that? Like what? Yeah,
where's your head out? Because it seems like you're just
like you literally were like I.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Did say that once upon a time. I just got
me there.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
I'm gonna be dead.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
She's not exactly comfortable with me having kids with another woman,
even if it's all IDF.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
I can get that.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Plus, to be honest, I'm not all that invested in
being tied to Ava, even as a donor, not all
as great. I've been considering quitting my job for unrelated
reasons without too many potentially identifiable details. I want to
own my own work. It's been stressful and the whole
no spicy sleep idea. I fell apart within a couple
of days. You guys are terrible this.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
You're literally living together and sleeping together, and you're probably
gonna get married in like two weeks.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
You're like, but we're taking it slow.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Neither Rage nor I are perfect. And there have been
two arguments, one big one small. The big one was
over the no spicy sleep thing and how Rach was
worried it meant I didn't want her anymore. This is
definitely not the case. The second fight was about why
I seem to let Ava just do crap to me,
and honestly, I really didn't have an answer. Gonna bring
that one up in therapy, but it did make me

(35:34):
decide to not do the IVF deal and go low
contact with Ava. I'm slowly realizing that admiring her as
a professional isn't the same as liking her or being
her friend, and I'm not sure why I keep letting
her into my life. That was a big switch up.
Rach and her mom are still in contact, but it's
going slow, like you're slow, or like real slow, Sharon. Honestly,

(35:55):
I still think of her as a mom. And Jess
have been in contact and have invited us to come up.
By the way, you should come over and listen to
full episodes stories just like this. Just go to Spotify,
Apple Podcast, or iHeartRadio in.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Search of Pooka story time.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Yes, there is a little bit left to this story,
but yes, fed thoughts, Yes, what are they slow it down?

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (36:20):
No, it pumped.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
The brakes are these the only two fish in your sea. Yes,
I think yes, I think these are the only two
women he's ever known in his life. I think we
would have heard about any other ones. Get out there,
go find I mean, fine peace, go on a journey
of self discovery.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
I don't know. Is it like fate? I uh, I
think so.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
I think stuff you like it. I think he's stuck
in a really dramatic romance.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Anime.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
You need the good rocks in your brain. Yeah, you
have the bad rocks in your brain right now. Things
are happening, but not super fast. We're not re married,
and I don't know if we're even trying to go
that way even if we were, it's only been a
few weeks, and neither of us want to go that fast.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
But I really do love her.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
I've missed her and never even let myself admit how
much I missed her, And I'm sort of disgusted with
myself that I didn't fight harder to keep her when
the whole deal with her fake dad and the cheating
accusation happened. I let that craphead pushed me away and
just ran away again. And I'm honestly effing furious with
myself for it, A lot of time wasted. We might've
had kids by now, and now who knows if we

(37:31):
ever will. Just so angry at myself, and yes, this
is stuff for the therapist, not much else to say.
I am still utterly unable to stop being a total
simp for Rach and I honestly don't even care anymore.
I hope this works out. If it doesn't, I hope
at least it helps her heal from all the terrible
crap that worthless bag of crap father did to her typing.

(37:54):
This makes me realize I do want us to get
married again, which is really scary.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
He's like, we're gonna take gets slow, but also I
just realized we need to get marriage.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
And then he's like, I don't even know if I'm
thinking about marriage. And now that I've said it, I'm
thinking about marriage.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
It's like, what's like when you like, don't think about
an elephant? Oh what do you think about it?

Speaker 3 (38:14):
About the elephant?

Speaker 2 (38:14):
And now I have to go buy one because I
thought I have to buy an elephant to buy an elephant.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
So anyway, yeah, that's my reality right now, hopefully in
the future, I'll have more and more positive stuff to share.
And that, my friends, is the end of that story.
What a saga? What truly what a saga? What a saga?
That was a tale? Yeah? Man, wow?

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Any final thoughts, Yeah, final thoughts, like stop for a moment,
breathe into yourself and try to really understand what it
is you want, because it even feels like at the
very end of the story you were like, yeah, I
no know. I mean I might want to get married,
but yeah, I don't think so, And then you immediately said,
just kidding, I do want to get married.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
You don't know what you want, Like, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Your therapist therapist, therapist needs to work over time with you.
You need extra sessions, yeah, or you might need a
new therapy or a new therapist if this one hasn't
gotten it into your noggin.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Yeah, at some point, if you're not seeing tangible improvement,
which it feels like you're doing the same thing. Yeah,
feels like you're doing the exact same thing. That it's
just where you were at before.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
It's literally a cyclog Certainly, Sunshine says, Oh, he needs
to try being alone for a bit. The thing is
that I it feels like, oh, he probably has been
alone in the years since divorcing Rachel.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yes, like we don't.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
We didn't hear about any other people. Maybe he, you know,
went on dates or something.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
We don't know.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
But I think that his problem isn't necessarily that he
doesn't know how to be alone. I think that he
doesn't know how to pace his relationships in a healthy way.
I think that's the issue.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
I would agree, But folks.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
That's the end of that story. And we got another
one on the way.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
I warned my ex, what's this new girlfriend about him?

Speaker 2 (40:02):
So?

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Why is my best friend furious?

Speaker 3 (40:05):
You mustn't trust him?

Speaker 2 (40:06):
For context, I twenty three broke up with my ex
thirty one, about one year ago. We lasted about three years,
lived together two and a half months and well together
and with all his family in his city. By the way,
this comes from user throwaway, and if you want to
submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay
storytime subreddit. So things were not good, neither with him

(40:30):
nor with his family. I'm not going to go into
the details of two long years in which I stopped
being me and became a shadow of the person I
had been. I managed to get out of that harmful
relationship in which his parents and sisters and brothers participated.
Of course, when I had seven people telling me that
I was to blame for the situation and that I
deserved what had happened, I believed it. But that's not

(40:52):
the point here. That's just some brief context. Two days ago,
my ex's new girlfriend twenty one or twenty two, I
guess from her Instagram, texted me. She noticed that my
secondary account, inactive for about three years, was still following
my ex, and she started writing me nasty words that
I won't repeat. I didn't look for her to tell

(41:13):
her anything, because I had no idea she existed. I
blocked my ex from all my social networks when I
left him, except for that one apparently, but I don't
even remember the dang password for that account. I don't
know if I would have done it if I had
known of its existence. Probably not. She probably wouldn't have
believed me either, just like now. However, I didn't get

(41:35):
into the discussion. Actually I didn't answer any of the
taunts or bad words, but I did warn her to
get out of there. I don't know what story they
told about me, but I don't care too much either
at this point. I'm just grateful that I was able
to get out of there and be free after all
of that. So she started sending me audios that I

(41:56):
didn't hear. I simply repeated to her that for her sake,
she should get out of that relationship in which everything
now seemed wonderful before she found herself working to give
them all her money, also doing all the housework, and
taking care of my ex, his father and his brothers because.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
They are men.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Why can't men just be men anymore and be taken
care of hand and foot by all the women around them.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Why can't men just be awful to the women in
their lives when men were men? You know, uh, OPI I.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Think be clear, it's sarcasm.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
If anyone's thick enough out there to think I was
being serious, that's sarcastic.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
If anyone's got slate in the brains. God, Opie, you
are doing and you got out of a terrible situation
and now are trying to help someone else who is
not in the space to believe you or see that
you were right. And really, I think that you're doing
all that you can. Yeah, there's really not much else

(42:57):
you can do. You can't force her to leave.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah, and it's not your responsibility at the end of
the day.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Honestly, like you're doing Angel, move to like continue to
hear you know her verbal abuse is the right while
you're trying to help her.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Say, by the way, didn't listen to that. Just leave
him before it gets bad. I also warned her not
to buy my ex's a good mask. He's not a
nice guy. He knows how to lie, and he knows
how to manipulate. He knows how to make your life
miserable while keeping you tied to him. I warned her
of that and that he would become harmful. I feel
like she didn't want to read anything I had to

(43:29):
tell her, But I hope that at some point my
words will click in her head for her sake.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
I hope. So now, my best friend was with me
when this happened. We'll call her Betty.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
We were meeting another friend and they didn't say anything
at first, more focused on their coffee and gossip until
I reported that I had warned the new girlfriend, and
Betty seemed annoyed and told me I shouldn't have warned her.
Betty seemed to even defend him this time. Betty knows
the whole story, so I was surprised and asked her
why she was defending my ex, But she just started

(44:03):
saying that I had to learn to forgive and let go.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
I was a bit shocked, but my other friends agreed
with her. Bad friends, bad friends. Is he is your
ex manipulating your friends?

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Did he get to them?

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Did he get them?

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Since then, Betty has not spoken to me. I'm confused
about that attitude because she was there to pick me
up every time I was broken. She knows how it
affected me and how it still affects me to this day.
But she then came out with the forgive and forget crap.
She even went as far as to say that I
could have broken up my ex's new relationship. That's the point, which, yeah,

(44:39):
was the intent. If we were reading right, Yeah, she
said leave that guy.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Your friend's like, if she could have left him, Yeah,
that's that's what she's trying to do. Hey, you're not
gonna believe this. Through my other friend, I received the
information that Betty had said that I was resentful and
that I only said all that because I still loved
my ex. Why are your friends saying this? He's seeing her, Betty?

(45:06):
Betty's seeing your ex?

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Dude. Yeah, I asked Betty directly for an explanation, but
she completely ignored me.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
I don't understand. We've been friends since we were little.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
She was there when I managed to get out of
that relationship, and she herself helped open my eyes.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
It had never been like this before.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
I don't know if I really did the wrong thing
by warning my ex's new girlfriend, or if it's something else.
I don't understand why she defends him now. I don't
understand why she says those things, and I don't know
why she ignores me. I don't know if I can
forgive her for this either.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
I don't know what to do.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Does anyone have any idea why she took that attitude?
Did I really do so wrong by advising my exes girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Hey, y'all, it's John og Host here. We're gonna get
back to the story. So but here's a quick three
minute break from as for more sponsors, and there's an update.
We all know what my theory is, but yeah, what
about you?

Speaker 3 (45:58):
So fum No, I think it of course matters what
you said to her, But it doesn't seem like anything
that we heard was negative or you know, trying to
attack her. So I think that you were truly just
trying to let her know what you went through and yeah,
you know, hoping that she could avoid that.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
If it's not cheating, what could it be that's making
her upset?

Speaker 3 (46:21):
I don't know, Like it's such a weird reaction to
have to a person who you helped get over this
kind of really awful situation.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Okay, new theory, new theory, new theory, say it.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
New theory is that Betty has recently undergone some sort
of like life coaching and training and like or like
has been reading a lot of materials and she is
latched onto that whole like forgive and forget. M O
is being like, well, that's the way you have to
live your life, and that's the only way, and that's
the right way, and that's every other way is wrong.
So now Betty's probably just being like, well, I'm like

(46:58):
enlightened now, and it's like I understand that you have
to just frickin forget, and like I wish you could
do that.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
My mentor already told My mentor always tells me that
you just have to move past all of these these
moments because they're ephemeral and they won't last.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yeah yeah, yeah, So hopefully it's that one instead of
anything else. Your friend who can help with your ex.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
I really hope it's not that update.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
I need to get this out of the inside, because
not only do I feel anger, but I feel like
I'm going back again because of Betty's effing whims. I
feel all the faults again. English is not my first language,
and I am also super nervous. So some have asked
me to update. They wrote to me privately asking me
what happened. And even though I don't know if this

(47:42):
counts as an update because I'm venting more than updating,
I'll just leave it here for those who don't know.
I posted a post asking for help because I didn't
understand why my best friend reacted the way she did
when I told her my ex girl. When I told
my ex's girlfriend to stay away from him, not even
a day passed and I found out they.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Were having the spicy sleep and that's why she defended it.
We're all shocked.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
We are all equally shocked about this. No one saw
this coming. No one saw any of this coming.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Wow, I can't see Wow.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Do you think that maybe she was so supportive of
you leaving your ex because she wanted to hook up
with it?

Speaker 2 (48:25):
No?

Speaker 3 (48:26):
No, no, impossibly no.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
No. Now things got screwed up here. She started constantly
trying to contact me, so I blocked her from all sides.
She came to my family's house. I decided to stay
there that night because I needed my mom, and my
mom yelled at her to leave or she.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Would call the police.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Betty even made it on to Reddit once someone I
know who Jay, and You're gonna pay me an adult
soda found the post and started passing it through our
friends and started replying to messages. I'm summarizing it too
much and it may not make sense, but between one
thing and another, I don't even know at what point
it all went so crappy. Betty's boyfriend eventually found out,

(49:10):
but not through Reddit. Betty told him a slightly suspicious
story about why we had argued, but he took the
opportunity at some point to check her cell phone.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
He explained to me that he had only needed an
excuse to do.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
It because he suspected an affair, because he knew that
Betty was lying to him. He himself has accepted that
he needed to leave her after trying to deal with
her for so long. I know Betty doesn't have the
most straightforward character, but I thought of all the good
things that outweighed that he found out about everything and
wrote to me. And I wasn't really interested in the

(49:43):
Betty drama and her breakup, but he now her ex
had also read messages about me between them, and I
feel that I can understand why you would sleep with
him if you were a piece of crap without morals,
but I don't understand why you would pass him pictures
of me. You would talk to him about how I'm doing,

(50:03):
about what I do. I couldn't continue reading the conversation
because I really felt sick. I've tried to get away
from him in every way, blocking him, cutting mutual friends
out of my life, changing my phone number. I even
cut and died my dang hair for good measure, and
she just threw all of that away. Finally, yesterday, when
I got home from work and decided I deserved a

(50:24):
nice bottle of wine a little red of coals, she
came to my house. She started screaming, crying, banging on
the door. I told her to go away or I
would call the police because I didn't want to hear
anything she had to say to me. She ignored it,
so I called the police and my mom. Of course,
she kept yelling that if she ignored her, she would
make me listen the hard way. She said that I

(50:45):
deserved what she had done to me, and that I
was ruining her life, that I had to forgive her,
and so from my perspective, she dug her own grade.
That's just like none of what she just said makes
any sense, like zero. She says, you deserve what you like,
what happened to you. You need to forgive me, right

(51:06):
because she I read it in that book like that
none of what what Like if this was your friend
for like years and years and years and was always
there for you, and then this is like a switch up.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
This is one of those things where it's like is
it a tumor honestly, like when did she.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Start seeing this guy? Because I'm sorry, if if I
had a friend who was in like a terrible relationship
with a horrible person and I heard like everything that
person did, and then I was like, yeah, that's the
person I want to they vetted him.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
He did not pass. Well, they're not because Betty's in
a relationship.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
So this is the infidelity I'm saying, Spike, Yeah, she
wants to get together with Oh well, yeah, I mean
in my head it makes look I don't cheat, so
I wouldn't know, but it makes sense that it's like, Oh,
if I'm gonna cheat, I should cheat with the scumbaga
worse dicum of the earth because I'm already cheating.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
He'll be down for it.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
You know.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
It's like, oh, do I put a third scoop of
ice cream on there? Screw it, Let's just eat the
whole pint.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Let's eat a piece of mud Yeah, but it's mud
pie ice cream.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Can get it. Outside's smoking baby A cent for it. Okay.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
I can overlook on empty threats. I can even deal
with the fact that now I feel insecure again, knowing
that my ex can find me.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
I can be okay with all of that. I'll survive.
I always have.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
But then she blamed me. She told me in front
of the police and my mom that I deserved what
my exit done. She said that it was my own
dang fault because surely I had done something wrong. That
there was most likely something wrong with me, that he
with her was not like that, that he even cried
for me when she showed him my photos. And I

(52:56):
know it might sound silly, Wait, so is she not
only is this insane woman cheating with this cheating on
her partner with this scumbag guy who did ope so dirty. Yeah,
she's now trying to say that he's actually a softie
who just misses you. Really, I've just been trying to

(53:18):
get you guys back together.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
What what would the point of showing him her pictures be?

Speaker 1 (53:26):
She's the bridge.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
I don't understand. She's like, no, you don't.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
You don't get it.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
I've been hooking up with him so that you guys
can get back.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
To trying to actually gray. It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
This woman is clinically insane.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
It's crazy. I'm sorry, that's wild. She's like, I'm the
fixer upper. She's like just comm match maker. Oh, I
really do.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
But after spending so much time in therapy and blaming
myself and feeling inadequate, feeling like something was wrong with me,
and feeling like no one would ever love me because
I felt already and damaged, that was the worst thing.
She could have said, and she knew it because she
knew how I had felt, and she knew that was
taking a NiFe and opening up an old wound. So

(54:13):
ef it, Betty. I can't give details right now, but
I just got out of the police station. I'm waiting
for the complaint to be processed because I don't want
to get involved in legal matters here. I don't know
if it could affect it in any way. I'm extremely
lucky to have witnesses, support, and the love of my
family and friends. I'm hiring a good lawyer too well.

(54:34):
My unrecognized and non biological dad.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Is doing it.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
My stepfather he works in justice too, so he knows
a lot more about all this than I do. I
just wanted to get it off my chest before I
went to work.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
From here.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
It's a long, hard and mentally exhausting process that's going
to start because my ex is also involved.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
I would have left.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Things as they were, but I feel like I can't
just live taking other people's crappity. Maybe that was the
message I gave at that moment, that he could step
on me whenever he wanted without any consequences, but mess
with my best friend to keep pestering me. No, nope,
no more. That was the last straw that made the
dang glass explode. That's an interesting way to think about that.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
That's a malform. Instead of the.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Straw on the camel's back, these are like actual drinking
straws that you've put into a glass.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
You put so many that in.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Glass have full empty or full of straws.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
As the last straw squeezed into that dang exploding glass.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
When life gives you straws, explode a glass with them.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Break glass. Yes, f you two.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
If Jay passes this post again and you see it,
I really want to say, and I hope you too
have a hard time, and that you really feel something
of what I felt those days. You said that I
would end up forgiving and forgetting for being too good.
There's no forgive and forget here, not anymore. They hurt
me in the worst possible way. I'm just going to
defend myself legally. I don't care how much damage this

(56:09):
causes them, and I don't mind ruining their lives and
ending their careers. I don't care if that happens. When
I don't even feel safe at home anymore, I should
have done it when I left him initially, but I
didn't even have the strength to support myself. Now I
have it, and fortunately for me, or I guess unfortunately
for them, I also have the rage to carry it out.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
By the way, you should carry out listening to.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Full episodes with stories just like this one, which you
can carry out on Spotify or Apple podcasts or I
our radio or wherever you listen to podcasts.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Oh you gotta do is search, Okay, storytime. It's that simple.
It's that easy. And then I guess you gotta click
on like an episode. But like but then it's that easy.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
It's it's pretty that's that's pretty simple. So there is
a little bit more story left.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
I think you just gotta move countries.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Yeah, like definitely legally to whatever you can be done
to protect yourself from your ex.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Get like a straining order, I don't know, yeah, cut
off freaking Betty, definitely territory. Yeah, but like I'm not
sure where you're at.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
But if you just like were like, you know what,
I just want to start a new life, Like this
is one of those scenarios when it's like just wiping
the slate and starting a new life kind of makes sense. Yeah,
it's like you're who's she was your best friend and
now she's like your anime and it's like all their family.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Friends, you know, Yeah, kind of agreed with Betty at
least before they knew, you know, hopefully they didn't know
that Betty was cheating with her ex.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
So it's a really scary, like hard thing to tear
it down and start over.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
But yeah, it can be really fulfilling as well, and
it's less scary the more that you do it. I've
done Yeah, I've done it multiple times. I have not
and the first time is really scary, but at some
point you just go, Hey, I roll it with it.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
With a bunch of ye is, let's finish her off.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
I am angry.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Ooh. I feel betrayed and hurt, and I know I
don't deserve it. However, I also know that I'm not alone.
I know it's going to be hard, but I go
to therapy. I have an amazing family and friends who
didn't hesitate to send Betty straight to the lake a fire.
Well that's good, Okay, so you do have friends despite everything.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
I'm fine.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
I will be fine as long as I have myself.
I know I'll be I'm going to go to work,
but my heart is racing and many things are on
my mind. I just hope I can say it's all
over soon, although the judicial process will take time. Much
love and health to all.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
There's an edit.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
I didn't say it here, but my ex was an abuser.
Not gonna spread the details, and that is the end
of that story.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Yeah, get those people out of your life and make
sure they stay one.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
But folks, that's the end of that story and the
end of this episode. So if you love us, make
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Speaker 3 (58:58):
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