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00:09 r/AITAH - AITAH for not insisting that my fiancée forgive my sister for slapping her?
18:34 r/JUSTNOFAMILY - My family didn't show up to my wedding
33:14 r/AITAH - My MIL is oblivious and just making me stressed AITA
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is Sam. This is a John your og
Okay Storytime podcast host and we got some great stories
coming up. Before that, we have a quick two minute
break from the sponsors that keep the show a lot.
I support my fiance's decision to not forgive my sister
what you do. I don't know, I barely nor give
her trigger warning. There's a slap up coming to the story,
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so if that offends you, leave By Crown. I thirty male,
am engaged to K twenty five female. She's an orphan
with no immediate family in the US. Her aunt's godmother
live in Europe. I'm the oldest of six kids and
the issue is with my sister Amy, seventeen female. By
(00:43):
the way, this comes from La lad Na Hefe And
if you want to submit your own stories, go to
the art slash Okay Storytime Supper. And I'm Sam, I'm Sophia,
and I'm Keon And Op says, my family is loud,
boisterous and very close. When I first met Kay, she
was excited to hear about my family and meeting them.
They are lots and Kay is more reserved and quiet,
(01:05):
but she was welcomed with open arms. For the past
two years, there's no issues.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
But now there's an issue. Oh, we play a lot
of games when we get together, and it gets very competitive.
Kay is more chill, but she plays as hard as
everyone else. That's what we love.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Good.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
We love you know, Sophia and I. When we play games,
we go hard. We go hard. Well. With the last
game we played and how long do we play it?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Time tune for four hours?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
The one not man.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
But I didn't lose.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
So Amy and Kay were on the same team for pictionary,
and Amy was going nuts about them losing to the boys, Me,
my brother, dad, et cetera. She was honestly cheating. Kay
didn't play along and kind of laughed when they lost,
saying it's just for fun. Amy slapped her hard across
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the face.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
That's crazy. Now, that's two.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Hard ahead in the game, major loser, insane just in general,
but overall board, over pictuary, over pictionary.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, well, maybe she was trying to have them write
down the word just like. She was like, they are
not getting it. We have to really do it for real.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Slap and she's like, yes, the word.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
None of us could believe it. My parents were very
upset with Amy and immediately sent her to her room.
She was screaming that she didn't mean it. I mean,
I fear what slap means when she means it. If
it was already a huge, big old slap, you can
but she didn't mean it. Yeah, but you could, like
I mean, like here here's a slap if I mean it,
or if I don't mean it. Here's a slap if
(02:45):
I mean it. And if you want to see a
slap if I really mean it. Check into our Dominatrix
streams that we went on yesterday okay and apologized on
Amy's behalf. Kay was holding back years.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
The mom was saying she didn't mean it, she didn't
mean it. I see, yes, I thought I thought Amy
was saying I didn't mean it.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I was. I think Mama's apologeting her behalf and asked
me to take her out of there, which understandable.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, she just got slapped over pictionary.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Since we don't live in my home state. We went
back to the hotel. Kay was very shaken and said
she has never been hit in her life. That would
be pretty shocking, never spent or in a fight, punched
me what that is untrue? But Sophia would stubb her
toe all the time and say Sam, yeah, and I
(03:37):
would get in trouble. Sophia got me in trouble for
doing nothing, for doing nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Then he would attack me.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, brutally. See this is this is exactly what was evident.
The next morning, she had a large welt on her face.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
My god, that it was that hard.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Dang. That means Kay meant it.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
That she had like rings on or something like that.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah. Well, I mean she wouldn't even need it if
she just well slap that hard.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
It looked really bad.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I snapped a photo of it and sent it to
my parents saying we were going back home. That was
two months ago, and Ka wants nothing to do with Amy.
We were in the early stages of wedding planning and
there was talk of all four of my sisters having
some role in the wedding. Ka now wants just her
bff and maid of honor and her maid of honor's
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daughter as flower girl. She originally was going to have
my mom and sisters meet her at NYC to try
wedding dresses and have her aunts come here. Now she's
going to France alone to shop with her family. Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Again, I understand understandable, understandable, that's crazy. A welt really
no way back here for Amy.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
My sisters are very upset. My mom understands how this
affected Kay, and she spoke to her about it. Kay
said that she felt that she did not want to
only exclude Amy, so none of them are included. Dang,
because I feel like it's a little awkward if everyone
else goes yeah but Amy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
But also, well, I think it's not that they're not
coming to the wedding. Well, Amy might not be, but
I think it's that.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
They're invited from like all the wedding activities.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I think she wanted them to be in the wedding party,
and now she's saying I can't include them in the
wedding party. Yeah yeah, which I yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Although I would say, if you still feel like you
have a good relationship with everyone.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Else, then I would still have.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I feel like, honestly, Kay or sorry, Amy would understand
why she wasn't here.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, and if she doesn't, then she needs tremendous amounts
of therapy.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah. Yeah. But she said that if my mom explained
it to Amy and the other girls and they were
okay with that, she would possibly consider some involvement. Wow,
So she's just.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Like, if they talk and they're all cool with just
Amy being excluded, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But that did not go over well Sophia. No, Amy
flipped and demanded it be all of them or none.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Amy, girl, you can't possibly think you have any say anymore.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
My parents talk to me and asked that I bring
Kay to them so we could sit with Amy, have
a face to face to apologize me. Don't bring your
face anywhere near Amy and clear the air. They also
wanted Kay to apologize.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
They're like, Kay really needs to turn the other cheeks.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I said she had nothing to apologize for. When Kay heard,
she said she's not going to their house again if
they think she owes anybody an apology. And I am
one hundred percent behind Kay. Now that is a good fiance.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I love that. Amy has always been the most challenging
of my younger siblings. I love her, but she has
crossed a huge line. Still, I don't want to cause
a massive rift. Am I wrong for one hundred percent
backing my fiance? And there is an update? But Sophia
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Kean Chat is op wrong for backing his fiance.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
No, No, his fiance got hit by his sister, and
now to the point where there's a well a well well,
and now his parents are saying Cayne needs to apologize.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I feel and how the parents need to apologize. That's
crazy just because.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
You said that she needs to apologize. Now you guys
are on.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
They had me in the first half with like, okay,
you guys need to talk face to face. Yeah, and
then I was like, Okay, that seems reasonable. She's gonna apologize, yeah,
but they're like, oh no, you owe her an apology.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
What hypothetical? I slapped Allie hard across the thing.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You guys are about to get married.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Okay, or a really speed running thing for no reason.
I would expect Ali to be uncomfortable around you, but
like after you know, a couple year, after a couple
months and years, I would expect like you guys to
be able to be in the same area.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Like unless there was like a cordial like apology, yeah
and like something like that.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
But that then I wouldn't be able to see Sophia
for a year.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah that Sam. Sam's off of our relationship and he
can't separate.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's very hard to separate. I understand that I would
be wrong, but like, I can't not see my sister.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, yeah, you're talking about our relationship because I would
never slap Valley across the face.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Let me know if you would expect your significant other
to be able to be in the same room with
your sibling after a slap. I imagine most people would
be on Sophia and keyon side, not that I'm on
the other side. By the way, I'm just I don't
want to not see my sister. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I don't want to not see you. I won't slap Balley.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
But we got an update, so I need to clarify
something before the update. The psychologist is a teen specialist,
not a sports one. My dad corrected this. Ka is back.
We're still engaged, still wedding planning, and no issues between us.
Kay was initially not happy with the post, but says
she appreciated the overall support. My mother has apologized to
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Kay and it explained herself to her. Okay, so at
least someone has apologized.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Kay as accepted the apology and is not holding onto
anything negative her exact words. Both of my parents are
concerned about how Amy has begun to lash out and
realize that there are deeper issues that Amy needs to address.
You if someone slapping people over pictionary, there's definitely deeper
issues AND's going to receive therapyfore right. I'm not involving
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myself in this, and Amy has asked my parents not
to share with my brother or me. The only significant update,
as several of you predicted, is that Amy is saying
she's glad she's not going to the wedding and told
my brother, who is getting married in September, that if
he keeps up his attitude with her, she's not going
to come to his wedding.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
She's got your behavioral issues.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
She's got main character syndromes.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Fine, yeah, if you're rude to me, I'm not coming
to your wedding. And he's like, I don't, you're a seven.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I don't want to. You're gonna be slapping everyone at
that thing. He told her that would be fine. Again,
as many of you pointed out, she is playing the victim.
On the positive side, both my aunt and my oldest
sister have said that Amy has been owning up to
the slap. She's like, she's like, yeah, I did it,
So what she's owning up to it so well, yeah,
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not apologizing, oading up and how she has ruined her
relationship with Kay. Never liked that anyway, That's why I
slapped the I did that.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
That was me slap me, you know, and surfs up
stepped on me, practically danced on me.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I guess I'll have to hold judgment until she apologizes
to Kay. Amy's therapist is working with her on this.
Kay has told my parents that she will wait until
Amy is ready. My oldest sister has been there to
help my mom and said that she believes that Amy
I spell isolated and left out of the family for
a while. Again something that will be addressed in therapy.
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She had several tournaments and wasn't able to attend a
family event and didn't get to visit with me with
my mom and youngest sister fifteen. Not an excuse, just
telling those who will ask. Kay and I are planning
on visiting my home state in August. We have a
very big family reunion at the lake every year. Kay
said she's fine with going. She said she is not
afraid and wants to focus on the wedding rather hold
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on to any resentment her words. I guess that's it.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I'm not afraid, but it's not it.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
There is sure, there's more than half of this story.
There's more than half of the story left.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
That's a lot of slabs to get through.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
That's a lot of slabs. Begs again to those who
are had a helpful advice in those that offered support,
Thank you all who responded with great advice and the
wake up call I needed. I end up calling Kay
the next morning and told her about the post. She
wasn't too happy about it, but it did help make
her request and her godmother's request easier. No, Amy is
not at the wedding period. We're having a smaller ceremony
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in Europe and we'll discuss a larger reception back in
the US possibly after this is resolved. Kay is on
her way back home to me and still engaged. Next
I'm in my hometown, but not at my parents' house.
My aunt came and showed my mother the post. I
was not there Monday, but I was on a FaceTime
with them. My oldest sister, twenty nine females also with
my mom. She mom was absolutely devastated reading the responses
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that said harmful act and abuse and press charges He
was in tears and was afraid for Amy. I don't
think she really understood until I reminded her about the
photos and the witnesses. She was very apologetic, and my
dad chimed in reminding her about asking Kay to apologize.
And my mother is going to apologize to Kay. She
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knows she was one hundred percent wrong. And before I
get going here, I'm not excusing the behavior or justifying anything.
I'm just sharing the conversation we had earlier today. Long
story short, Amy thinks Kay dislikes her.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Sap. I mean, she let me lose. I didn't win
the game. She hates me.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
You don't weigh in hearts and minds by slapping people
across the face. You know it can't kiss a baby
then slap someone and accept the mother. Yeah, I mean,
there's a reason that politicians don't go around slapping people
to get votes. Let me just tell you. And has
said that she feels like she's the only one Kay
doesn't like. That's not true, but it's how she feels.
(13:22):
The latest trigger incident happened over Easter weekend when we
were home. All of the girls were talking about college
and Amy was saying she was looking at out of
state colleges because she had received some interest from coaches.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I also just wanted to point out the wording there
of Amy saying, I feel like I'm the only one
that Kay doesn't like.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You slapped her. You're the only one that slapped her.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
But if he said, that's not true. So I'm just
imagining that she doesn't like a lot of people. Yeah,
you're just one of many people that Kate doesn't.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Well, my dad, me and my brother twenty five, Mail,
and my oldest sister all went to big universities in
our home state with athletic scholarships. Amy can as well.
I guess she said to Kay if she went to
a certain college, she could save money and live with us.
I don't think Kay wants you live in with her, no,
Kay said, and miss out on campus life. You would
miss out in so much not being on campus, which
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is true. I think that's true. My oldest sister said
the same thing and also added that the school close
to us wasn't as good in that sport and gave
other reasons, and that was it. Cay and I live
on the East coast, my family in the Midwest. Amy's
coaching teammates are pushing for her to go to California.
It's a great opportunity, and several players from our general
area that Amy knows are also there. What sport volleyballs?
(14:34):
Oh so she's so good to slap it?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Wait? Is it actuallyball?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I don't know. Bah. In her mind, she felt like
she was being pressured into this and that it would
send her away. When Kay commented that it was a
great school, she says she has been struggling with the
pressure and expectations and isn't dealing with it too well. Obviously,
if she's not dealing with it too well, clear, Yeah,
school pressure shouldn't have you slabbing people slapping balls. Maybe volleyball,
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but dad said, and that her coach has been having
her talk to a sports psychologist for the past month. Lastly,
I spoke to Amy, and my mom was firm about
how absolutely horrible her behavior was and what it did
to Kay. I said she should have immediately apologized instead
of screaming and crying. I reminded her that she was
lucky Kay didn't call the police and file charges. She
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responded that she didn't think she snapped. I told her
that she was not coming to the wedding period. She
understands that she may never have a relationship with K
after this, and it is her own faults. So that's
it until Kay and I are back home again. I
appreciate all the helpful and harsh comments I received, and
there's another update.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, I feel like that's all very fair, And I mean,
she still isn't taking, you know, responsibility for what she did,
so I feel like until that is done, there's no
way that you can fix this until she does that.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, I mean, it takes two people to mend a
broken relationship, you know, takes a person who may have
done something wrong to admit to it and repair, and
the person who was hurt to overcome that and repair.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
But I have another update. Kay and I returned from
my family's big annual reunion and Amy was not there
by her choice. She was invited to a tournament out
of state and decided to go, so there was no confrontation.
Her therapy appears to be going okay, but she's still
lashing out and my brother and his fiance and me
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the most. She's been assigned by a therapist to write
out her grievances and then they were going to work
on finding one or two she could work on with
her brothers. Apparently, again my aunt and oldest sister are
my sources. She decided to read them all at a
random dinner, which upset my parents and other two sisters
did then send the list to me and my brother
via email. It was ridiculous and most of it was
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not even accurate. Example, she did a scar in her
palm that she needed stitches for. She fell at the
lake when she was around ten and landed on a
nail on the dock, and my grandmother had grabbed her
hand to see what the damage was and it tore
the Apparently that was my faults. Other things like that. Well,
there's another elevant update, but let's discuss. It seems like
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this Amy is not getting it. Seems like shutter.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, it seems like she's bringing up all of these
past things and then now blaming them on you. It
feels like she's regressing even further.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Yeah, all I'm hearing is excuses in zero accountability zero.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
And I mean she's seventeen, but that's definitely old enough
to be able to know that you're not supposed to
slap people and you are supposed to take accountability if
you do something that bad.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, but we got a little bit more of the
story and I'm gonna go right into it. So the
other big update is that she is not going to
my brother's wedding in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Wow. Well she said that. She said, if you keep
disrespecting me, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Going, And she's not going. And he is done with
her crop the brother. He lives in the next town,
and she has consistently stated that my brother and their
witches are trying to get rid of her. A friend
of the family is taking her for the weekend and
my mother was the catalyst for this ca and I
are good. I know how lucky I am. The wedding
is going to be in Europe in April and it
will be small, fortyish people slash family, and then we'll
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do a party from extended family and our friends in
the summer. So that is it. Thanks again for the
wake up call. Still holding on to hope that we
can come out of this as a family. We can
accept the non closure for a while, and that is
where this story ends. And there you go, But we
got another story for you. Come and ride up Sophia's
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gonna pull up her next one.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Woohoo, my whole family ditched my wedding.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Oh man, must have been a bad wedding.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
As the title says, I thirty three male, got married
three months ago to my lovely wife cute. We had
a wonderful wedding and it felt great to have so
many of my friends buy in and make it a
great day for us. But a few days before the ceremony,
my family told me they would not be there. Ooh,
by the way, this comes from historical sunlight and if
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you would have spent your own store or is go
to the r slash. Okay, storytime separated it.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I'm Sophia, I'm Sam, I'm the third daughter keon and.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Oh p says some background. My mom and dad separated
when I was very young. They never divorced and raised
my older brother and I in an environment that made
us feel like we were still one family unit. We
lived with my mom, and my dad visited us on
birthdays and holidays. He lived a couple of states away,
but we never went to him, instead just keeping in
touch on the phone in between visits. It feels dumb
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to admit, but as a child. I naively felt this
was a normal arrangement. We carried on this way for
years until I was twenty two and decided to make
a road trip to visit my dad. I called to
let him know I was nearby, and over the phone,
he seemed defensive and nervous. Finally he agreed to come
meet me at a nearby restaurant. I waited at a
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table as he entered with a woman I'd never seen before.
It turns out it was his live in girlfriend that
he'd had were years. Honestly, it didn't surprise me that
he was with someone else, and in a way, I
was happy for him. She's actually great and we got
along well. But on this same trip, I learned that
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my dad was married to yet another woman before he
married my mother.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Like there was there was crossover, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
In this marriage. He had four children, four half siblings
I never knew about. My mom was aware of this too,
and neither of them ever spoke a word of it
to me or my brother for twenty plus years.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
So we got a secret family, secret family. I love
a secret family story.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
It just feels like the parents never really, you know,
face anything. They didn't get to it. Yeah, they just separated.
They didn't tell anyone about the kids.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
They just they just kept it under wrapped it. Yeah,
yeah crazy. I feel like you should definitely tell your
current family about your yeah secret family.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
It was shocking to learned that my entire childhood, my
dad still had joint custody of his kids from his
first marriage.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Would he just go on business trips? Like, how do
they keep that in set? How do they keep that hidden?
That's crazy?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
And was helping to raise them through high school. After
learning this, I didn't speak to him for a year
as I needed to digest the information and understand what
it all meant. My mother tried to give me an explanation,
but it always kind of fell flat. She's the type
of person who doesn't want to rock the boat and
likes to sweep problems under the rug, so in a way,
it made sense she would go along with keeping my
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brother and I in the dark about this. Eventually, I
decided to try to be the bigger person for the
good of my family. I began talking to my dad again.
Everyone began to spend time together again, even including my dad's.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Girl friend, Okay Selah kind of just like I'm going
to get through this.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, They're like, all right, I guess.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I guess, yeah, he's.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Under the rug.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I guess it's not under the rug anymore. It's on
top of the rug. And everyone's like, all right, Like,
I guess that's on the rug now.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Just kind of sweep to the side, but I think
it's front and center.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Ie is there. It's just there. Everyone's uncomfortable. There's an
elephant in the room and everyone's greeting it now.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, but it is pretty insane for ope to not
know about this for twenty two years.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
It is crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Soon after, I graduate college at twenty three and move
several states away to take a job. Initially things were good.
My brother gets married and I'm the best man at
his wedding. He has his first daughter. After never being
financially stable, I start to flourish in my career. We
all keep in touch regularly. At first, I go back
home to see my family several times a year, and
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we all get together around the holidays. But after living
away for a few years, no one ever comes to
visit me. It's always me going back home. They always
make vague plans to visit, but something always comes up.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
The other family. That's the other family, keeps up the
OG family. He's busy, Yeah, he's busy. I usually, you know,
your secret family is your practice family, and I think
you might have been the practice family. Now he's going
back to OG.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Like, Okay, I perfected it.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I'm on my way back, on the way back, on
my way back.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I begin to feel like the glue holding the family together,
and it annoys me that no one ever takes the
effort to see me. My brother's family begins to grow,
so obviously my mom and dad place emphasis on spending
time with them. Three years ago, I met a lovely
woman who is the best part of my life. She's gorgeous, charming,
and we get along like the best friends we are.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
That sounds incredible, lovely.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
My career continues to take off, and things feel like
they're going my way after years of feeling lost and aimless.
At the same time, my brother starts to struggle financially,
and I can tell the pressure of supporting a family
weighs on him. I help him out where I can
to help make ends meet, or to provide gifts for
my nieces during the holidays. What brothers do Last year
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I got engaged and my family was so happy for us.
We even bought a house together, and things started to
feel like they were really coming together. I was truly
proud of where I was for the first time in
my life. We planned a beautiful wedding that I'd hope
would finally bring my wife's family and mine together for
the first time. Because of lockdown, they had never been
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able to meet each other. My mom gets a lovely
dress she's excited to wear at the wedding, and knowing
that my mom and brothers still suffer financially, I take
care of travel and lodging for the wedding. I get
plane tickets for my mother, brother, sister in law, and
three nieces. I also find a really nice airbnb for
them because I want to treat them on this important time.
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Our wedding is on a Friday, and three days before
they start to back out of coming. Now crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Also, like three days before is rough because they already
are paid, they've paid for people, Like what.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Is more important than maybe it's a wedding.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Or maybe it's the secret family's wedding.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Em My mom leaves me a voicemail saying that she
has a cold and won't be able to come, but
she feels bad about not being able to make it.
Get over your cold. You have three days, wear a mask,
wear a mask. Cold in three days, it's not the
big it's in three days, you'll feel fine.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, this is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I call my brother two days before to confirm he'll
be there, and he tells me his youngest daughter isn't
feeling well with the stomach ache. Two days. Got two
days to give her some pepto.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Or pepto busy, I.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Don't know, man, give her tombs. She'll be fine. Hell
her tough it out. He tells me he won't be
able to come because he needs to take her to
the doctor, even though my sister in law's parents live
right next door to them and take care of the
girls all the time. Anyway, Finally, my dad and his
girlfriend back out. He claims he's still concerned about the VID,
which may be true, but sounds suspiciously like so many
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other excuses he's given over the years, especially since he
could have driven instead of flying to the White. My
fiance starts crying when she hears all this, and wonders
if we should call off the wedding. But I insist
we go ahead after never being there. I was so
excited for my family to be my my side on
my big day, and they still can't make it work.
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At this point, I feel abandoned, disrespected, and used. I
spent thousands trying to fly them out on top of
an already expensive wedding. I realized that my brother never
really contacts me anymore except ask to borrow money. My
wife was disrespected on her wedding day. She should have
had a new family eagerly welcoming her like her family
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did for me. It has caused a huge rift between
her and my family right at the beginning of her marriage.
It was humiliating to have each of my friends come
up to me and ask if it was really true
that my family didn't show up. Why are they asking
you that on your wedding day?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Is it really true?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Is it really true your family show up?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Are the newspapers are they real? Is the news in
that you're a loser and no one loves you? That's crazy?
That's crazy. Do you need some space from your family?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah? Yeah, either day of or like after the wedding,
I would say, hey, you guys have never shown up
for me, I'm gonna take some space. I'd have to
answer each one, each time, getting harder not to cry.
At a beautiful, happy wedding with sixty guests, I had
zero family present.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I was strong for my wife. I didn't want it
to be a sad day for her, and we both
truly had a great time. But now I can't even
look at wedding pictures. It feels like both the best
and worst day of my life.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Oh that's project.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
At this point, I don't know what to do anymore.
I don't have the energy or desire to try to
keep our relationship going. For literally over a decade, I've
been providing for my family. I've been there for them,
but after being disappointed, lied to take an advantage of,
and now abandon in the most public way possible.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I need to move on Wayne really quick. Op is
helping out his family members financially too.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Financially, he's coming back a lot and they've never won.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Ope, he's putting in the work.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
My wife and I have the most fun, happiest, drama
free relationship, and I'm so excited to be starting this
adventure together. I feel like my family is nothing but
toxic at this point, how can I ever reconcile our relationship?
Is it even worth it?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Do?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I just move on? And how I hate giving up
and I hate failure, I.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Mean really quick. A relationship is a bridge that starts
from each end of the river, and like you have
to have someone at least build a little bit of
that bridge. It doesn't necessarily always have to be right
in the middle equal, but like, if someone doesn't start
building your bridge, it's not going to feel like you're
in that relationship together.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, your bridge is just gonna keep collapsing.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Your bridge is gonna keep collapsing. You need a little
bit of a foundation there. So it sucks. But like
I think, if you put in a lot more effort
than someone else, you're just gonna feel sad. You know,
you can maybe start to match their effort and that
might be hurtful to you a bit short term, but
feel like long term it will protect your heart.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I agree. I'm a loyal person and it tears me
up to turn my back on someone, especially my own blood.
I don't know what to do anymore. And OPI responds
to some comments asking when your family contacts you after
all of this, Again, probably asking for money, because that's
usually how these things go with exploiters. Please hold strong
to your self respect and tell them to go f themselves.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I forgot to mention that my brother already has reached
out to ask for money since the wedding.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
You're kidding?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Ohh I would yeah let them.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
They literally just see you as a meal ticket. Yeah,
like that is that little piggybank that is so so
sad OPI you you deserve more than that.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
ATMs don't have weddings, right, oh boom. I asked him
why he only reaches out when he needs money, and
he flipped out, saying that's effing bs. He said he
was going to mail a laptop back to me. I
got a laptop for him last summer. He was searching
for jobs and really needed a new one to send
out resumes because he didn't want me to hold that
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over his head too. He never sent it back though
I don't want him to, and he has since removed
me on social media. Did they act interested in coming?
I'm wondering how much of the buying tickets, booking, lodging,
et cetera. Was wishful thinking on your part. Maybe they
really were trying to be cautious because of the fit.
This is fair to consider, and believe me, we didn't
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take it lightly that we were having our wedding during
these uncertain times. My wife's grandparents did not make it
because we insisted it was too risky for them. Others
opted out too, but they let us know in the RSVP.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Which is when you should left.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yeah. I totally understand, but the way they backed out
at the last minute fits a pattern that has been
going on for decades. There is a little truth to
the point that taking care of their travel was wishful
thinking on my part, but also I genuinely didn't want
it to be a burden for them. Also, my wife
and I realized after the wedding. In all the frenzy
of wedding planning, we sent my mom and brother details
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about the airbnb, but completely forgot to email them the
flight details, flight number, departure time, et cetera. They never
asked for them. Pretty sure they never planned to come
and just waited until the last minute to tell us. Yeah. Also,
my brother and sister in law weren't even thoughtful enough
to send a card, text or wedding gift. There is
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a little bit left to this story. But oof.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, Kim find said something about how if you're always
trying to bridge that gap, like you're you're in such
a people pleaser mode and you end up just having
like these issues in the in the relationship. And I
feel like op has maybe been in people pleaser mode
for a long time and finally like has an example
of what a healthy relationship looks like with their healthy family,
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and a healthy family looks like fiances. Yeah, and so
like now is realizing maybe I don't need to stand
for this kind of treatment. Maybe I do deserve more.
Maybe I can be treated the way that I want
to be treated, and sometimes it takes like a good
relationship to model what that could look like. I'm honestly
happy that this happened to OPI because now OPI can
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shed some dead weight and relationships that just don't serve
her at all.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Very much agreed, But there is a little bit left.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Let's hear it.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Your family did show up. Your chosen family, consisting of
your friends, was by your side on your big day.
Opie responds, this is so true and is a gift
to learn that I have friends like that. When they
found out I wouldn't have family at the wedding. They
knew it was going to be tough for me, but
they didn't make a big deal of pointing that out.
They just showed up harder, exactly what I needed. Didn't
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you say all of your friends of saying your family
really didn't show up? I mean, these aren't the friends
that you were talking about.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I mean, maybe they didn't say it like that and like, hey,
like I heard your family didn't show up? Or is
it true that your family didn't show up?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Like really true that your family ate too?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
No, I mean I imagine they maybe did it in
a more of like, oh my god, I can't believe
that happened. Hopefully, but we have one more story for
you before we wrap up this episode. Hey, it's Sam,
your og host. Here. We're gonna get back to the stories,
but here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors. My
mother in law tried to hijack every aspect of my life.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Let go.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I've been with my husband for going on six years,
married for almost a year, and expecting twins. Woo. Yes,
I used to have a really good relationship with my
mother in law. She used to invite me over to
dinner weekly, even without my husband when he worked nights,
and she would let me bring our fur baby over
to play in the backyard because we live in a
simple apartment. Awesome. By the way, this comes from Otherwise
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own stories, go to the r slash Okay storytime subrenets.
I'm Sam, I'm Sophia, and I'm Keon and Op says.
Our wedding was supposed to be small. I had a
family fly across the country that I hadn't seen in years.
My mother in law offered help, and we had free
decorations donated, and we told her we wanted to keep
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everything cheap since I was pregnant and we needed to
save for the twins. Also, that is crazy having twins,
like first for family, going from zero to two kids
just sounds like so hard.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, so hard to be ready for anything.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I heard zero to one is hardest, then one to
two is like still pretty hard, and then two to
three is a little bit easier. Yeah, you're like, I
know how to do it already, especially if you have
them like like two to four years apart, because then
like the oldest one can help them yet oh a
little bit. Yeah, bro, you think I didn't help, you
didn't your body. I helped a bunch. You don't want
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your kids to parent other kids completely, but having them,
like I mean.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
At least they help in the sense of, like they
play together.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah, exactly, they just keep them occupied.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, I keep them entertained.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Yeah. Well, she made the wedding about herself. Our wedding
was filled with her friends. She hired a photographer who
spent more time taking pictures of her and her friends
instead of us, and didn't photograph with my family. Her
uninvited friends were extremely rude to my family who had
flown across the country, and my family didn't want drama
but couldn't understand why they were being bossed around. That's crazy.
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She ended up going very extravagant with the food, spending
two thousand dollars, Oh, two thousand dollars of her money
or two thousand dollars. Yeah, who's my money?
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
My husband? I literally asked for two, maybe three things
because it was an afternoon wedding. We just wanted very simple,
cheap fingerfoods. She didn't even have the one food I
asked for it, which was simple. Crock popped cocktail wienies.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
What are cocktail wienies?
Speaker 1 (35:39):
They're great?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Keon? Pull it up? Okay, so that's why that looks great.
I'm now hungry kind of want why Well, yeah, not
for you. She even made a whole wedding post on
Facebook about all the food she had and the picture
she took with her friends, and there was not a
single one of me or my husband, the bride and groom,
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and the wedding boats. That's crazy. She literally just threw
a party. Yeah, potentially on your dime.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
She threw a party for herself. Yeah, that's crazy, and
then posted about it.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I literally tagged myself because it had nothing to do
with me or my husband. I ended up explaining to
her the wedding really upset me and how rudely my
family was treated. She took it very personally and acted
like she had no idea when I saw her standing
right next to her friends being rude to my family.
She ended up not talking to my husband for three
days after I confronted her about it. It felt like
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she was lying to me, acting like she didn't know,
and that she struggles to take accountability. It maybe really
worry about what could happen behind closed doors with my twins. Yeah,
I mean, if your mother in law is acting like that, like,
maybe it's not the best influence for your children.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Knew we should probably find someone who's gonna be a
little bit more, you know, on your guys's side.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I mean, you can still have your mother around the kids,
but maybe just not minding them on superfrisedy. Exactly before
the wedding and before we found out it was twins,
my mother in law wanted to be super involved, which
I didn't mind. She said she would help watch her
dog while I delivered and recovered, and that when I
had to go back to work, she would watch the
baby or now babies. I was on board with that
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until the wedding went down. Also thinking about the fact
she came into my husband's life when he was a teenager,
So it is like a stepmother.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Oh well, I don't know if it's a stepmother came.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Into my husband's life when he was a teenager.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
It might just been like she was she was out
of the picture, she was out of picture and came back.
We don't know. We don't know, but it sounds like
either way She's taken a lot of a.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Lot of liberties for someone who wasn't there the whole time.
She's never had the experience of handling little babies. Okay,
so if she's never had the experience of handling little babies,
then she's probably stepmother. My father in law raised my husband,
so I would have had more trust in him, but
he passed away three years ago. Uh, it all just
didn't sit well with my My doctor ended up writing
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me out of work at twenty eight weeks because I
started having minor complications which was getting progressively worse. Now.
My husband and I had to sit down discussion. We
both agreed that even after I deliver, he just wants
me to stay home with the kids and we would
be fine with him handling the finances. When we went
to dinner with mother in law and I brought up
how I'd be staying home with the kids, she seemed
taken aback and started being a little shallow. Shallow in what.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Way you not like you being a stay at home mom.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Let's see, before even this, she would give unsolicited advice
and once talked about how her friend was a twin
and one of them passed away at birth, which just
turned me off. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Why are you telling OPI about this?
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I don't want to hear about those things. No, my
mom had me super young, so I view my grandparents
as second parents, especially at my grandpa, because I didn't
have my dad in my life growing up. My grandparents
and even my family across the country have bent over
backwards helping us get everything we need for the twins
and more. My grandparents take me to appointments since my
husband works a lot, and my mother in law asked
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uff if there was anything specific we needed for the
twins and to send her links. I kept it very simple,
A bottle washer, sterilizer, bottle warmer, and bottles. I attached
multiple links and said the only thing we really wanted
was the bottle washer sterilizer because it's expensive, but with
twins and me planning to exclusively PUNP, we would need it.
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Last time we went over to her house, she was
flaunting how she bought an extremely expensive sofa, so I
didn't think asking for a bottle washer sterilizer would be
an issue. I see you, it's probably gonna be an issue.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
I think she's gonna make a big stink about it.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
She ended up leaving my message on delivered for over
a month.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
What is her angle?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
It's her deal. I feel like she wants she wants,
like she wants to mind your kids, but then leaves
you on red and like wants to help you, but
wants you to want wants the wedding to be actually
about herself. This is a little weird. Fast forward to now,
I only have about less than a month left in
this pregnancy. I mentioned to my husband how I needed
to know if she wasn't going to get the things
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I messaged her about because and then we need to
get them ourselves. I didn't want to worry about it
being postpartum. He messaged his mother in law and said
she ordered the bottle washer sterilizer come delivery time. It
wasn't it just a sterilizer? What my husband said? She
claimed I didn't send her the links, but I showed
him my phone. He told her, I was very clear
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to my message. We have to return it, and now
she wants us to go out of our way to
return it while I'm on bed rest with complication.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Wait, sterilizer? What what did she buy? I'm confused.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
I feel like maybe it was like a baby bottle sterilizer,
and she only got like a sterilizer for something else.
I don't know. Regardless, it wasn't the right thing.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
What does it sterilize?
Speaker 1 (40:45):
I don't know. Maybe it just got like hand washed. Yeah,
here's the sterilizer you want. She just bought my hand sanitizer. Yeah, yeah,
I just put this in the bottle. Baby's babies love it.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
I present alcohol, never cries, I've fit, never goes.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Right to sleep. I ended up making a boundaries post
about how I want things to go after delivery. Basically,
I don't want anyone in the waiting room for us.
We will have visitors when we're ready, and I didn't
want people showing up to our home. I read it
by my husband before posting to make sure we were
on the same page, and he agreed. He ended up
calling my husband asking if she could wait in the
waiting room to stay updated. I snapped and said no,
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I literally made a clear post about it, and that
I thought she was going to help us by watching
our dog while I delivered. In the phone call, I
overheard her say how when I delivered, she was going
to take time off work for one on one time
with the girls and I laughed and told my husband
absolutely not. No one is getting one on one time
with our tiny newborns except.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
For us, certainly not mama, who constantly critiques and buys
the wrong things.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Yeah, you can't be trusted, mama. My husband asked her
again how we actually just needed her help watching our dog,
who was very well behaved. We had a kennel and
everything ready and it would be only for two days. Max.
She's now refusing to watch our dog. Do you want
to help or not?
Speaker 2 (42:11):
She's like, no, I don't not that much.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Saying she can stay at her apartment or just come
over and let him out. I told my husband I
absolutely do not want her in our apartment. It's a
one bedroom and we converted our sun room into a nursery.
I don't want her sleeping in our bed. Our sofa
is too small, and I don't want to worry about
her going through our things. She told my husband she
doesn't want our dog at her house without him there,
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which was weird to me. Over the course of a relationship,
she would go on vacation countless times and I would
have to dog sit for her for weeks on end.
Yet the one time we need someone to watch her dog.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
It's an issue, yeah, because anytime you want her to
do something.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Well it, she just makes it about her. Yes, she's like,
I don't want to help you. I just want to
spend time with your heath.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
I want babies. I want that helped me when I
have things.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Hey, it's johnyo Og host here. We're going to get
back to the stories, but here's a quick three minute
break of ass from our sponsors. My husband and I
now agreed that we don't want to leave our dog
in a kettle over night. So my husband doesn't want
to board with him because he has separation anxiety from us.
So when I deliver, he's going to have to go
back home a lot take care of him, which upsets
me because it leaves me alone in the hospital. The
other day, I had to go to the er for
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pre eclampsia and hypertension. Yank, you tell us what that is.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
It's just like things that you know can develop after
the babies.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, wait, what is it?
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Pre Eclampsia is a pregnancy complication characterized by high blood
pressure and protein in the urine.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Is it that bad? Is it fine? Yeah? It needs
to be treated that it needs.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
To be treated.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
But yeah, but it's still pretty treatable. But it's still
like a complication that you don't want.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
You don't want that, And I was bawling because I
hated being alone at the hospital when all I wanted
was him there with me. I feel like the only
reason she's refused using now is out of spite. And
Camari Jade says, severe high blood.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Pressure, and there's a couple symptoms with it other than
the high blood pressure, but it's swelling in the hands,
feet and or face, severe headaches, vision changes, adominal pain,
and seizures.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Whitney Anderson says it's bad. Super Nova says it's so dangerous, Okay, jeez,
Like he's trying to find a loophole around my boundaries
to either stay at our apartment or be at the hospital.
I'm very firm on my boundaries. These are my first babies,
and I don't even know how birth is going to
go with the twins. She keeps asking my husband if
I know the day I'm getting induced yet, and I
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swear if she shows up at the hospital, I will
immediately have staff asked her to leave. Do we think
she's going to show up at the hospital or at home.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
I think that she's going to show up wherever she
wants to show up because she doesn't care about whatever anyway. Yeah,
it's only what she wants.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
This mother in law is no good. I want to know, Like, Sophia,
what would you do? Setting boundaries is like saying all
the right things to mother and law, saying like hey,
like do not show up, and like is there anything
else that you could do?
Speaker 2 (45:08):
I think the it's not really an Ope versus mother
in law thing, it's Opie's husband.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
I feel like the husband has been oddly quiet in
the story.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We haven't heard anything really
about like the conversations he's had. Yeah, and I think
he either needs to have a very serious conversation with
her or limit contact a lot.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
He needs to step up. Maybe he is and we're
just not hearing it, but it doesn't sound like he is. Yeah,
let us know in the comments what you think Opie
should do this whole pregnancy. Since the wedding, she has
never asked me how I'm doing or how things are going.
He hasn't been helpful, just adding more stress. I've been
to the er multiple times with complications, and only once
did she check on me, and even then she had
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her mother call me instead of doing it herself. I
do updates on Facebook about pregnancy to keep everyone updated.
Since I have a family all over the country. Everyone
is appreciative of those updates and no one complains. I
don't reach out personally except my mother in law. She
tries to play oblivious to my posts, even though I
know she sees them. She just stopped liking them and said,
blows up my husband's phone, claiming he's trying to stay
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updated when she could easily just reach out to me.
This whole thing has gotten under my skin and I
didn't want it to go all the way, but it did.
My husband has even been seeing how she's playing oblivious,
and he's been scratching his head about that, and I'm
just over it all. Bruh, you gotta do more than
scratch your head.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Stop scratching your head.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
You gotta do some action, Like oh, that sounds crazy.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
I think you need to face it a head on,
head on. Learn from amy not too much, though.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Not too much. Ever since the wedding, I lost trust
with her and was very offended on how she let
her friends treat my family and really made the day
about her. I don't like how she was already disrespecting
my boundaries without the kids even being born yet, and
felt like she's trying to find loopholes. I don't like
how she's now refusing to watch her dog went from
the getting she said she was, and now I'm going
to have to be alone at the hospital for some
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time so my husband can watch them.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Do you not have anyone else that could take this dog?
Is there any other family members, friends?
Speaker 1 (47:12):
I mean you could take you can have anyone take
that dog.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Anyone can take this dog.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Yeah. I feel like there must be other other choices,
or even a dog sitter.
Speaker 4 (47:21):
Yeah, there's sitters, dog hotels, pet sitters.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
There is dog gotails are expensive.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
There is apps where you can hire like a house
sitter who's also a pet sitter.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yeah, and also a lot of those apps people are
at it. They're free, Like you can get a dog
sitter for free. Basically what it's like house sitting. So
the person sitting in your house gets place to stay
at your house and in exchange, you take care of
the dog. Yeah, which is pretty interesting. But I also
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don't like how I feel like she's just avoiding me
now and wants nothing to do with me, but wants
a relationship with the kids, which doesn't sit well with me.
I just don't appreciate how she really hasn't been helpful
at all when I've seen how my family has done
so much for us and more. And I also want
to clarify I am by no means withholding anyone from
seeing the kids at the beginning. Yeah, I don't want
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a lot of visitors because with twins, they're going to
be more underdeveloped than a singleton. And plus I've never
given birth before. I just want time to heal. And
mother in law has been talking about since the beginning
how she wanted to basically smother them, and I don't
want that. Yeah, I am I the egg hole in
this situation, but it's just been so stressful. That's where
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this story ends. Question is opda hole? What do you
think feel?
Speaker 2 (48:36):
No? I think that you have like a family member
who has shown time and time again that they cannot
be relied upon, And I think it's a fair desire
to want to create a little bit of space between them,
And you're like, it doesn't have to be long term forever.
She's never allowed to see the kids. But you're going
you're gonna be in a very vulnerable state when you
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give birth.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Yeah, I just feel like the mother in law's heart
is in the right place. It's like, it feels like
everything she's doing is self serving. She's just thinking about
her own feelings, just not trying.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
She's not trying to make this easier for yous at all.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Not at all. And like, you know, you're giving birth
to twins, you need all the support you can get
and you're not getting none of it. No, you're not
gonna get it anything. But unfortunately there's no update. Let
us know what you think, Oh p should do? I
feel like, oh, he's doing all the right things, but
maybe there's something else that you could do.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Hobby can do.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Hobby needs to stand up, needs to step up. But
that is where that story and this episode. And so
if you love us, make sure to subscribe.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
We love you and see you tomorrow.
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I support my fiance's decision to not forgive my sister
what you do. I don't know, I barely nor give
her trigger warning. There's a slap up coming to the story,
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so if that offends you, leave By Crown. I thirty male,
am engaged to K twenty five female. She's an orphan
with no immediate family in the US. Her aunt's godmother
live in Europe. I'm the oldest of six kids and
the issue is with my sister Amy, seventeen female. By
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the way, this comes from La lad Na Hefe And
if you want to submit your own stories, go to
the art slash Okay Storytime Supper. And I'm Sam, I'm Sophia,
and I'm Keon And Op says, my family is loud,
boisterous and very close. When I first met Kay, she
was excited to hear about my family and meeting them.
They are lots and Kay is more reserved and quiet,
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but she was welcomed with open arms. For the past
two years, there's no issues.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
But now there's an issue. Oh, we play a lot
of games when we get together, and it gets very competitive.
Kay is more chill, but she plays as hard as
everyone else. That's what we love.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Good.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
We love you know, Sophia and I. When we play games,
we go hard. We go hard. Well. With the last
game we played and how long do we play it?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Time tune for four hours?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
The one not man.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
But I didn't lose.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
So Amy and Kay were on the same team for pictionary,
and Amy was going nuts about them losing to the boys, Me,
my brother, dad, et cetera. She was honestly cheating. Kay
didn't play along and kind of laughed when they lost,
saying it's just for fun. Amy slapped her hard across
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the face.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
That's crazy. Now, that's two.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Hard ahead in the game, major loser, insane just in general,
but overall board, over pictuary, over pictionary.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, well, maybe she was trying to have them write
down the word just like. She was like, they are
not getting it. We have to really do it for real.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Slap and she's like, yes, the word.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
None of us could believe it. My parents were very
upset with Amy and immediately sent her to her room.
She was screaming that she didn't mean it. I mean,
I fear what slap means when she means it. If
it was already a huge, big old slap, you can
but she didn't mean it. Yeah, but you could, like
I mean, like here here's a slap if I mean it,
or if I don't mean it. Here's a slap if
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I mean it. And if you want to see a
slap if I really mean it. Check into our Dominatrix
streams that we went on yesterday okay and apologized on
Amy's behalf. Kay was holding back years.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
The mom was saying she didn't mean it, she didn't
mean it. I see, yes, I thought I thought Amy
was saying I didn't mean it.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I was. I think Mama's apologeting her behalf and asked
me to take her out of there, which understandable.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, she just got slapped over pictionary.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Since we don't live in my home state. We went
back to the hotel. Kay was very shaken and said
she has never been hit in her life. That would
be pretty shocking, never spent or in a fight, punched
me what that is untrue? But Sophia would stubb her
toe all the time and say Sam, yeah, and I
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would get in trouble. Sophia got me in trouble for
doing nothing, for doing nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Then he would attack me.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, brutally. See this is this is exactly what was evident.
The next morning, she had a large welt on her face.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
My god, that it was that hard.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Dang. That means Kay meant it.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
That she had like rings on or something like that.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah. Well, I mean she wouldn't even need it if
she just well slap that hard.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
It looked really bad.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I snapped a photo of it and sent it to
my parents saying we were going back home. That was
two months ago, and Ka wants nothing to do with Amy.
We were in the early stages of wedding planning and
there was talk of all four of my sisters having
some role in the wedding. Ka now wants just her
bff and maid of honor and her maid of honor's
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daughter as flower girl. She originally was going to have
my mom and sisters meet her at NYC to try
wedding dresses and have her aunts come here. Now she's
going to France alone to shop with her family. Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Again, I understand understandable, understandable, that's crazy. A welt really
no way back here for Amy.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
My sisters are very upset. My mom understands how this
affected Kay, and she spoke to her about it. Kay
said that she felt that she did not want to
only exclude Amy, so none of them are included. Dang,
because I feel like it's a little awkward if everyone
else goes yeah but Amy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
But also, well, I think it's not that they're not
coming to the wedding. Well, Amy might not be, but
I think it's that.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
They're invited from like all the wedding activities.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I think she wanted them to be in the wedding party,
and now she's saying I can't include them in the
wedding party. Yeah yeah, which I yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Although I would say, if you still feel like you
have a good relationship with everyone.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Else, then I would still have.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I feel like, honestly, Kay or sorry, Amy would understand
why she wasn't here.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, and if she doesn't, then she needs tremendous amounts
of therapy.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah. Yeah. But she said that if my mom explained
it to Amy and the other girls and they were
okay with that, she would possibly consider some involvement. Wow,
So she's just.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Like, if they talk and they're all cool with just
Amy being excluded, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But that did not go over well Sophia. No, Amy
flipped and demanded it be all of them or none.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Amy, girl, you can't possibly think you have any say anymore.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
My parents talk to me and asked that I bring
Kay to them so we could sit with Amy, have
a face to face to apologize me. Don't bring your
face anywhere near Amy and clear the air. They also
wanted Kay to apologize.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
They're like, Kay really needs to turn the other cheeks.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I said she had nothing to apologize for. When Kay heard,
she said she's not going to their house again if
they think she owes anybody an apology. And I am
one hundred percent behind Kay. Now that is a good fiance.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I love that. Amy has always been the most challenging
of my younger siblings. I love her, but she has
crossed a huge line. Still, I don't want to cause
a massive rift. Am I wrong for one hundred percent
backing my fiance? And there is an update? But Sophia
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Kean Chat is op wrong for backing his fiance.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
No, No, his fiance got hit by his sister, and
now to the point where there's a well a well well,
and now his parents are saying Cayne needs to apologize.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I feel and how the parents need to apologize. That's
crazy just because.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
You said that she needs to apologize. Now you guys
are on.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
They had me in the first half with like, okay,
you guys need to talk face to face. Yeah, and
then I was like, Okay, that seems reasonable. She's gonna apologize, yeah,
but they're like, oh no, you owe her an apology.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
What hypothetical? I slapped Allie hard across the thing.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You guys are about to get married.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Okay, or a really speed running thing for no reason.
I would expect Ali to be uncomfortable around you, but
like after you know, a couple year, after a couple
months and years, I would expect like you guys to
be able to be in the same area.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Like unless there was like a cordial like apology, yeah
and like something like that.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
But that then I wouldn't be able to see Sophia
for a year.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah that Sam. Sam's off of our relationship and he
can't separate.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's very hard to separate. I understand that I would
be wrong, but like, I can't not see my sister.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, yeah, you're talking about our relationship because I would
never slap Valley across the face.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Let me know if you would expect your significant other
to be able to be in the same room with
your sibling after a slap. I imagine most people would
be on Sophia and keyon side, not that I'm on
the other side. By the way, I'm just I don't
want to not see my sister. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I don't want to not see you. I won't slap Balley.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
But we got an update, so I need to clarify
something before the update. The psychologist is a teen specialist,
not a sports one. My dad corrected this. Ka is back.
We're still engaged, still wedding planning, and no issues between us.
Kay was initially not happy with the post, but says
she appreciated the overall support. My mother has apologized to
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Kay and it explained herself to her. Okay, so at
least someone has apologized.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Kay as accepted the apology and is not holding onto
anything negative her exact words. Both of my parents are
concerned about how Amy has begun to lash out and
realize that there are deeper issues that Amy needs to address.
You if someone slapping people over pictionary, there's definitely deeper
issues AND's going to receive therapyfore right. I'm not involving
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myself in this, and Amy has asked my parents not
to share with my brother or me. The only significant update,
as several of you predicted, is that Amy is saying
she's glad she's not going to the wedding and told
my brother, who is getting married in September, that if
he keeps up his attitude with her, she's not going
to come to his wedding.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
She's got your behavioral issues.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
She's got main character syndromes.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Fine, yeah, if you're rude to me, I'm not coming
to your wedding. And he's like, I don't, you're a seven.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I don't want to. You're gonna be slapping everyone at
that thing. He told her that would be fine. Again,
as many of you pointed out, she is playing the victim.
On the positive side, both my aunt and my oldest
sister have said that Amy has been owning up to
the slap. She's like, she's like, yeah, I did it,
So what she's owning up to it so well, yeah,
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not apologizing, oading up and how she has ruined her
relationship with Kay. Never liked that anyway, That's why I
slapped the I did that.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
That was me slap me, you know, and surfs up
stepped on me, practically danced on me.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I guess I'll have to hold judgment until she apologizes
to Kay. Amy's therapist is working with her on this.
Kay has told my parents that she will wait until
Amy is ready. My oldest sister has been there to
help my mom and said that she believes that Amy
I spell isolated and left out of the family for
a while. Again something that will be addressed in therapy.
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She had several tournaments and wasn't able to attend a
family event and didn't get to visit with me with
my mom and youngest sister fifteen. Not an excuse, just
telling those who will ask. Kay and I are planning
on visiting my home state in August. We have a
very big family reunion at the lake every year. Kay
said she's fine with going. She said she is not
afraid and wants to focus on the wedding rather hold
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on to any resentment her words. I guess that's it.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I'm not afraid, but it's not it.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
There is sure, there's more than half of this story.
There's more than half of the story left.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
That's a lot of slabs to get through.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
That's a lot of slabs. Begs again to those who
are had a helpful advice in those that offered support,
Thank you all who responded with great advice and the
wake up call I needed. I end up calling Kay
the next morning and told her about the post. She
wasn't too happy about it, but it did help make
her request and her godmother's request easier. No, Amy is
not at the wedding period. We're having a smaller ceremony
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in Europe and we'll discuss a larger reception back in
the US possibly after this is resolved. Kay is on
her way back home to me and still engaged. Next
I'm in my hometown, but not at my parents' house.
My aunt came and showed my mother the post. I
was not there Monday, but I was on a FaceTime
with them. My oldest sister, twenty nine females also with
my mom. She mom was absolutely devastated reading the responses
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that said harmful act and abuse and press charges He
was in tears and was afraid for Amy. I don't
think she really understood until I reminded her about the
photos and the witnesses. She was very apologetic, and my
dad chimed in reminding her about asking Kay to apologize.
And my mother is going to apologize to Kay. She
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knows she was one hundred percent wrong. And before I
get going here, I'm not excusing the behavior or justifying anything.
I'm just sharing the conversation we had earlier today. Long
story short, Amy thinks Kay dislikes her.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Sap. I mean, she let me lose. I didn't win
the game. She hates me.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
You don't weigh in hearts and minds by slapping people
across the face. You know it can't kiss a baby
then slap someone and accept the mother. Yeah, I mean,
there's a reason that politicians don't go around slapping people
to get votes. Let me just tell you. And has
said that she feels like she's the only one Kay
doesn't like. That's not true, but it's how she feels.
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The latest trigger incident happened over Easter weekend when we
were home. All of the girls were talking about college
and Amy was saying she was looking at out of
state colleges because she had received some interest from coaches.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I also just wanted to point out the wording there
of Amy saying, I feel like I'm the only one
that Kay doesn't like.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You slapped her. You're the only one that slapped her.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
But if he said, that's not true. So I'm just
imagining that she doesn't like a lot of people. Yeah,
you're just one of many people that Kate doesn't.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Well, my dad, me and my brother twenty five, Mail,
and my oldest sister all went to big universities in
our home state with athletic scholarships. Amy can as well.
I guess she said to Kay if she went to
a certain college, she could save money and live with us.
I don't think Kay wants you live in with her, no,
Kay said, and miss out on campus life. You would
miss out in so much not being on campus, which
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is true. I think that's true. My oldest sister said
the same thing and also added that the school close
to us wasn't as good in that sport and gave
other reasons, and that was it. Cay and I live
on the East coast, my family in the Midwest. Amy's
coaching teammates are pushing for her to go to California.
It's a great opportunity, and several players from our general
area that Amy knows are also there. What sport volleyballs?
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Oh so she's so good to slap it?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Wait? Is it actuallyball?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I don't know. Bah. In her mind, she felt like
she was being pressured into this and that it would
send her away. When Kay commented that it was a
great school, she says she has been struggling with the
pressure and expectations and isn't dealing with it too well. Obviously,
if she's not dealing with it too well, clear, Yeah,
school pressure shouldn't have you slabbing people slapping balls. Maybe volleyball,
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but dad said, and that her coach has been having
her talk to a sports psychologist for the past month. Lastly,
I spoke to Amy, and my mom was firm about
how absolutely horrible her behavior was and what it did
to Kay. I said she should have immediately apologized instead
of screaming and crying. I reminded her that she was
lucky Kay didn't call the police and file charges. She
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responded that she didn't think she snapped. I told her
that she was not coming to the wedding period. She
understands that she may never have a relationship with K
after this, and it is her own faults. So that's
it until Kay and I are back home again. I
appreciate all the helpful and harsh comments I received, and
there's another update.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, I feel like that's all very fair, And I mean,
she still isn't taking, you know, responsibility for what she did,
so I feel like until that is done, there's no
way that you can fix this until she does that.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, I mean, it takes two people to mend a
broken relationship, you know, takes a person who may have
done something wrong to admit to it and repair, and
the person who was hurt to overcome that and repair.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
But I have another update. Kay and I returned from
my family's big annual reunion and Amy was not there
by her choice. She was invited to a tournament out
of state and decided to go, so there was no confrontation.
Her therapy appears to be going okay, but she's still
lashing out and my brother and his fiance and me
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the most. She's been assigned by a therapist to write
out her grievances and then they were going to work
on finding one or two she could work on with
her brothers. Apparently, again my aunt and oldest sister are
my sources. She decided to read them all at a
random dinner, which upset my parents and other two sisters
did then send the list to me and my brother
via email. It was ridiculous and most of it was
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not even accurate. Example, she did a scar in her
palm that she needed stitches for. She fell at the
lake when she was around ten and landed on a
nail on the dock, and my grandmother had grabbed her
hand to see what the damage was and it tore
the Apparently that was my faults. Other things like that. Well,
there's another elevant update, but let's discuss. It seems like
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this Amy is not getting it. Seems like shutter.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, it seems like she's bringing up all of these
past things and then now blaming them on you. It
feels like she's regressing even further.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Yeah, all I'm hearing is excuses in zero accountability zero.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
And I mean she's seventeen, but that's definitely old enough
to be able to know that you're not supposed to
slap people and you are supposed to take accountability if
you do something that bad.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, but we got a little bit more of the
story and I'm gonna go right into it. So the
other big update is that she is not going to
my brother's wedding in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Wow. Well she said that. She said, if you keep
disrespecting me, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Going, And she's not going. And he is done with
her crop the brother. He lives in the next town,
and she has consistently stated that my brother and their
witches are trying to get rid of her. A friend
of the family is taking her for the weekend and
my mother was the catalyst for this ca and I
are good. I know how lucky I am. The wedding
is going to be in Europe in April and it
will be small, fortyish people slash family, and then we'll
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do a party from extended family and our friends in
the summer. So that is it. Thanks again for the
wake up call. Still holding on to hope that we
can come out of this as a family. We can
accept the non closure for a while, and that is
where this story ends. And there you go, But we
got another story for you. Come and ride up Sophia's
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gonna pull up her next one.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Woohoo, my whole family ditched my wedding.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Oh man, must have been a bad wedding.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
As the title says, I thirty three male, got married
three months ago to my lovely wife cute. We had
a wonderful wedding and it felt great to have so
many of my friends buy in and make it a
great day for us. But a few days before the ceremony,
my family told me they would not be there. Ooh,
by the way, this comes from historical sunlight and if
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you would have spent your own store or is go
to the r slash. Okay, storytime separated it.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I'm Sophia, I'm Sam, I'm the third daughter keon and.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Oh p says some background. My mom and dad separated
when I was very young. They never divorced and raised
my older brother and I in an environment that made
us feel like we were still one family unit. We
lived with my mom, and my dad visited us on
birthdays and holidays. He lived a couple of states away,
but we never went to him, instead just keeping in
touch on the phone in between visits. It feels dumb
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to admit, but as a child. I naively felt this
was a normal arrangement. We carried on this way for
years until I was twenty two and decided to make
a road trip to visit my dad. I called to
let him know I was nearby, and over the phone,
he seemed defensive and nervous. Finally he agreed to come
meet me at a nearby restaurant. I waited at a
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table as he entered with a woman I'd never seen before.
It turns out it was his live in girlfriend that
he'd had were years. Honestly, it didn't surprise me that
he was with someone else, and in a way, I
was happy for him. She's actually great and we got
along well. But on this same trip, I learned that
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my dad was married to yet another woman before he
married my mother.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Like there was there was crossover, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
In this marriage. He had four children, four half siblings
I never knew about. My mom was aware of this too,
and neither of them ever spoke a word of it
to me or my brother for twenty plus years.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
So we got a secret family, secret family. I love
a secret family story.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
It just feels like the parents never really, you know,
face anything. They didn't get to it. Yeah, they just separated.
They didn't tell anyone about the kids.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
They just they just kept it under wrapped it. Yeah,
yeah crazy. I feel like you should definitely tell your
current family about your yeah secret family.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
It was shocking to learned that my entire childhood, my
dad still had joint custody of his kids from his
first marriage.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Would he just go on business trips? Like, how do
they keep that in set? How do they keep that hidden?
That's crazy?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
And was helping to raise them through high school. After
learning this, I didn't speak to him for a year
as I needed to digest the information and understand what
it all meant. My mother tried to give me an explanation,
but it always kind of fell flat. She's the type
of person who doesn't want to rock the boat and
likes to sweep problems under the rug, so in a way,
it made sense she would go along with keeping my
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brother and I in the dark about this. Eventually, I
decided to try to be the bigger person for the
good of my family. I began talking to my dad again.
Everyone began to spend time together again, even including my dad's.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Girl friend, Okay Selah kind of just like I'm going
to get through this.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, They're like, all right, I guess.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I guess, yeah, he's.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Under the rug.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I guess it's not under the rug anymore. It's on
top of the rug. And everyone's like, all right, Like,
I guess that's on the rug now.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Just kind of sweep to the side, but I think
it's front and center.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Ie is there. It's just there. Everyone's uncomfortable. There's an
elephant in the room and everyone's greeting it now.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, but it is pretty insane for ope to not
know about this for twenty two years.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
It is crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Soon after, I graduate college at twenty three and move
several states away to take a job. Initially things were good.
My brother gets married and I'm the best man at
his wedding. He has his first daughter. After never being
financially stable, I start to flourish in my career. We
all keep in touch regularly. At first, I go back
home to see my family several times a year, and
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we all get together around the holidays. But after living
away for a few years, no one ever comes to
visit me. It's always me going back home. They always
make vague plans to visit, but something always comes up.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
The other family. That's the other family, keeps up the
OG family. He's busy, Yeah, he's busy. I usually, you know,
your secret family is your practice family, and I think
you might have been the practice family. Now he's going
back to OG.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Like, Okay, I perfected it.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I'm on my way back, on the way back, on
my way back.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I begin to feel like the glue holding the family together,
and it annoys me that no one ever takes the
effort to see me. My brother's family begins to grow,
so obviously my mom and dad place emphasis on spending
time with them. Three years ago, I met a lovely
woman who is the best part of my life. She's gorgeous, charming,
and we get along like the best friends we are.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
That sounds incredible, lovely.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
My career continues to take off, and things feel like
they're going my way after years of feeling lost and aimless.
At the same time, my brother starts to struggle financially,
and I can tell the pressure of supporting a family
weighs on him. I help him out where I can
to help make ends meet, or to provide gifts for
my nieces during the holidays. What brothers do Last year
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I got engaged and my family was so happy for us.
We even bought a house together, and things started to
feel like they were really coming together. I was truly
proud of where I was for the first time in
my life. We planned a beautiful wedding that I'd hope
would finally bring my wife's family and mine together for
the first time. Because of lockdown, they had never been
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able to meet each other. My mom gets a lovely
dress she's excited to wear at the wedding, and knowing
that my mom and brothers still suffer financially, I take
care of travel and lodging for the wedding. I get
plane tickets for my mother, brother, sister in law, and
three nieces. I also find a really nice airbnb for
them because I want to treat them on this important time.
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Our wedding is on a Friday, and three days before
they start to back out of coming. Now crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Also, like three days before is rough because they already
are paid, they've paid for people, Like what.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Is more important than maybe it's a wedding.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Or maybe it's the secret family's wedding.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Em My mom leaves me a voicemail saying that she
has a cold and won't be able to come, but
she feels bad about not being able to make it.
Get over your cold. You have three days, wear a mask,
wear a mask. Cold in three days, it's not the
big it's in three days, you'll feel fine.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, this is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I call my brother two days before to confirm he'll
be there, and he tells me his youngest daughter isn't
feeling well with the stomach ache. Two days. Got two
days to give her some pepto.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Or pepto busy, I.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Don't know, man, give her tombs. She'll be fine. Hell
her tough it out. He tells me he won't be
able to come because he needs to take her to
the doctor, even though my sister in law's parents live
right next door to them and take care of the
girls all the time. Anyway, Finally, my dad and his
girlfriend back out. He claims he's still concerned about the VID,
which may be true, but sounds suspiciously like so many
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other excuses he's given over the years, especially since he
could have driven instead of flying to the White. My
fiance starts crying when she hears all this, and wonders
if we should call off the wedding. But I insist
we go ahead after never being there. I was so
excited for my family to be my my side on
my big day, and they still can't make it work.
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At this point, I feel abandoned, disrespected, and used. I
spent thousands trying to fly them out on top of
an already expensive wedding. I realized that my brother never
really contacts me anymore except ask to borrow money. My
wife was disrespected on her wedding day. She should have
had a new family eagerly welcoming her like her family
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did for me. It has caused a huge rift between
her and my family right at the beginning of her marriage.
It was humiliating to have each of my friends come
up to me and ask if it was really true
that my family didn't show up. Why are they asking
you that on your wedding day?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Is it really true?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Is it really true your family show up?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Are the newspapers are they real? Is the news in
that you're a loser and no one loves you? That's crazy?
That's crazy. Do you need some space from your family?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah? Yeah, either day of or like after the wedding,
I would say, hey, you guys have never shown up
for me, I'm gonna take some space. I'd have to
answer each one, each time, getting harder not to cry.
At a beautiful, happy wedding with sixty guests, I had
zero family present.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I was strong for my wife. I didn't want it
to be a sad day for her, and we both
truly had a great time. But now I can't even
look at wedding pictures. It feels like both the best
and worst day of my life.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Oh that's project.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
At this point, I don't know what to do anymore.
I don't have the energy or desire to try to
keep our relationship going. For literally over a decade, I've
been providing for my family. I've been there for them,
but after being disappointed, lied to take an advantage of,
and now abandon in the most public way possible.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I need to move on Wayne really quick. Op is
helping out his family members financially too.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Financially, he's coming back a lot and they've never won.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Ope, he's putting in the work.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
My wife and I have the most fun, happiest, drama
free relationship, and I'm so excited to be starting this
adventure together. I feel like my family is nothing but
toxic at this point, how can I ever reconcile our relationship?
Is it even worth it?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Do?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I just move on? And how I hate giving up
and I hate failure, I.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Mean really quick. A relationship is a bridge that starts
from each end of the river, and like you have
to have someone at least build a little bit of
that bridge. It doesn't necessarily always have to be right
in the middle equal, but like, if someone doesn't start
building your bridge, it's not going to feel like you're
in that relationship together.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, your bridge is just gonna keep collapsing.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Your bridge is gonna keep collapsing. You need a little
bit of a foundation there. So it sucks. But like
I think, if you put in a lot more effort
than someone else, you're just gonna feel sad. You know,
you can maybe start to match their effort and that
might be hurtful to you a bit short term, but
feel like long term it will protect your heart.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I agree. I'm a loyal person and it tears me
up to turn my back on someone, especially my own blood.
I don't know what to do anymore. And OPI responds
to some comments asking when your family contacts you after
all of this, Again, probably asking for money, because that's
usually how these things go with exploiters. Please hold strong
to your self respect and tell them to go f themselves.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I forgot to mention that my brother already has reached
out to ask for money since the wedding.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
You're kidding?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Ohh I would yeah let them.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
They literally just see you as a meal ticket. Yeah,
like that is that little piggybank that is so so
sad OPI you you deserve more than that.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
ATMs don't have weddings, right, oh boom. I asked him
why he only reaches out when he needs money, and
he flipped out, saying that's effing bs. He said he
was going to mail a laptop back to me. I
got a laptop for him last summer. He was searching
for jobs and really needed a new one to send
out resumes because he didn't want me to hold that
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over his head too. He never sent it back though
I don't want him to, and he has since removed
me on social media. Did they act interested in coming?
I'm wondering how much of the buying tickets, booking, lodging,
et cetera. Was wishful thinking on your part. Maybe they
really were trying to be cautious because of the fit.
This is fair to consider, and believe me, we didn't
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take it lightly that we were having our wedding during
these uncertain times. My wife's grandparents did not make it
because we insisted it was too risky for them. Others
opted out too, but they let us know in the RSVP.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Which is when you should left.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yeah. I totally understand, but the way they backed out
at the last minute fits a pattern that has been
going on for decades. There is a little truth to
the point that taking care of their travel was wishful
thinking on my part, but also I genuinely didn't want
it to be a burden for them. Also, my wife
and I realized after the wedding. In all the frenzy
of wedding planning, we sent my mom and brother details
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about the airbnb, but completely forgot to email them the
flight details, flight number, departure time, et cetera. They never
asked for them. Pretty sure they never planned to come
and just waited until the last minute to tell us. Yeah. Also,
my brother and sister in law weren't even thoughtful enough
to send a card, text or wedding gift. There is
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a little bit left to this story. But oof.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, Kim find said something about how if you're always
trying to bridge that gap, like you're you're in such
a people pleaser mode and you end up just having
like these issues in the in the relationship. And I
feel like op has maybe been in people pleaser mode
for a long time and finally like has an example
of what a healthy relationship looks like with their healthy family,
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and a healthy family looks like fiances. Yeah, and so
like now is realizing maybe I don't need to stand
for this kind of treatment. Maybe I do deserve more.
Maybe I can be treated the way that I want
to be treated, and sometimes it takes like a good
relationship to model what that could look like. I'm honestly
happy that this happened to OPI because now OPI can
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shed some dead weight and relationships that just don't serve
her at all.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Very much agreed, But there is a little bit left.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Let's hear it.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Your family did show up. Your chosen family, consisting of
your friends, was by your side on your big day.
Opie responds, this is so true and is a gift
to learn that I have friends like that. When they
found out I wouldn't have family at the wedding. They
knew it was going to be tough for me, but
they didn't make a big deal of pointing that out.
They just showed up harder, exactly what I needed. Didn't
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you say all of your friends of saying your family
really didn't show up? I mean, these aren't the friends
that you were talking about.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I mean, maybe they didn't say it like that and like, hey,
like I heard your family didn't show up? Or is
it true that your family didn't show up?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Like really true that your family ate too?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
No, I mean I imagine they maybe did it in
a more of like, oh my god, I can't believe
that happened. Hopefully, but we have one more story for
you before we wrap up this episode. Hey, it's Sam,
your og host. Here. We're gonna get back to the stories,
but here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors. My
mother in law tried to hijack every aspect of my life.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Let go.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I've been with my husband for going on six years,
married for almost a year, and expecting twins. Woo. Yes,
I used to have a really good relationship with my
mother in law. She used to invite me over to
dinner weekly, even without my husband when he worked nights,
and she would let me bring our fur baby over
to play in the backyard because we live in a
simple apartment. Awesome. By the way, this comes from Otherwise
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I'm Sam, I'm Sophia, and I'm Keon and Op says.
Our wedding was supposed to be small. I had a
family fly across the country that I hadn't seen in years.
My mother in law offered help, and we had free
decorations donated, and we told her we wanted to keep
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everything cheap since I was pregnant and we needed to
save for the twins. Also, that is crazy having twins,
like first for family, going from zero to two kids
just sounds like so hard.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, so hard to be ready for anything.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I heard zero to one is hardest, then one to
two is like still pretty hard, and then two to
three is a little bit easier. Yeah, you're like, I
know how to do it already, especially if you have
them like like two to four years apart, because then
like the oldest one can help them yet oh a
little bit. Yeah, bro, you think I didn't help, you
didn't your body. I helped a bunch. You don't want
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your kids to parent other kids completely, but having them,
like I mean.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
At least they help in the sense of, like they
play together.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah, exactly, they just keep them occupied.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, I keep them entertained.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Yeah. Well, she made the wedding about herself. Our wedding
was filled with her friends. She hired a photographer who
spent more time taking pictures of her and her friends
instead of us, and didn't photograph with my family. Her
uninvited friends were extremely rude to my family who had
flown across the country, and my family didn't want drama
but couldn't understand why they were being bossed around. That's crazy.
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She ended up going very extravagant with the food, spending
two thousand dollars, Oh, two thousand dollars of her money
or two thousand dollars. Yeah, who's my money?
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
My husband? I literally asked for two, maybe three things
because it was an afternoon wedding. We just wanted very simple,
cheap fingerfoods. She didn't even have the one food I
asked for it, which was simple. Crock popped cocktail wienies.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
What are cocktail wienies?
Speaker 1 (35:39):
They're great?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Keon? Pull it up? Okay, so that's why that looks great.
I'm now hungry kind of want why Well, yeah, not
for you. She even made a whole wedding post on
Facebook about all the food she had and the picture
she took with her friends, and there was not a
single one of me or my husband, the bride and groom,
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and the wedding boats. That's crazy. She literally just threw
a party. Yeah, potentially on your dime.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
She threw a party for herself. Yeah, that's crazy, and
then posted about it.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I literally tagged myself because it had nothing to do
with me or my husband. I ended up explaining to
her the wedding really upset me and how rudely my
family was treated. She took it very personally and acted
like she had no idea when I saw her standing
right next to her friends being rude to my family.
She ended up not talking to my husband for three
days after I confronted her about it. It felt like
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she was lying to me, acting like she didn't know,
and that she struggles to take accountability. It maybe really
worry about what could happen behind closed doors with my twins. Yeah,
I mean, if your mother in law is acting like that, like,
maybe it's not the best influence for your children.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Knew we should probably find someone who's gonna be a
little bit more, you know, on your guys's side.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I mean, you can still have your mother around the kids,
but maybe just not minding them on superfrisedy. Exactly before
the wedding and before we found out it was twins,
my mother in law wanted to be super involved, which
I didn't mind. She said she would help watch her
dog while I delivered and recovered, and that when I
had to go back to work, she would watch the
baby or now babies. I was on board with that
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until the wedding went down. Also thinking about the fact
she came into my husband's life when he was a teenager,
So it is like a stepmother.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Oh well, I don't know if it's a stepmother came.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Into my husband's life when he was a teenager.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
It might just been like she was she was out
of the picture, she was out of picture and came back.
We don't know. We don't know, but it sounds like
either way She's taken a lot of a.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Lot of liberties for someone who wasn't there the whole time.
She's never had the experience of handling little babies. Okay,
so if she's never had the experience of handling little babies,
then she's probably stepmother. My father in law raised my husband,
so I would have had more trust in him, but
he passed away three years ago. Uh, it all just
didn't sit well with my My doctor ended up writing
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me out of work at twenty eight weeks because I
started having minor complications which was getting progressively worse. Now.
My husband and I had to sit down discussion. We
both agreed that even after I deliver, he just wants
me to stay home with the kids and we would
be fine with him handling the finances. When we went
to dinner with mother in law and I brought up
how I'd be staying home with the kids, she seemed
taken aback and started being a little shallow. Shallow in what.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Way you not like you being a stay at home mom.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Let's see, before even this, she would give unsolicited advice
and once talked about how her friend was a twin
and one of them passed away at birth, which just
turned me off. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Why are you telling OPI about this?
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I don't want to hear about those things. No, my
mom had me super young, so I view my grandparents
as second parents, especially at my grandpa, because I didn't
have my dad in my life growing up. My grandparents
and even my family across the country have bent over
backwards helping us get everything we need for the twins
and more. My grandparents take me to appointments since my
husband works a lot, and my mother in law asked
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uff if there was anything specific we needed for the
twins and to send her links. I kept it very simple,
A bottle washer, sterilizer, bottle warmer, and bottles. I attached
multiple links and said the only thing we really wanted
was the bottle washer sterilizer because it's expensive, but with
twins and me planning to exclusively PUNP, we would need it.
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Last time we went over to her house, she was
flaunting how she bought an extremely expensive sofa, so I
didn't think asking for a bottle washer sterilizer would be
an issue. I see you, it's probably gonna be an issue.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
I think she's gonna make a big stink about it.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
She ended up leaving my message on delivered for over
a month.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
What is her angle?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
It's her deal. I feel like she wants she wants,
like she wants to mind your kids, but then leaves
you on red and like wants to help you, but
wants you to want wants the wedding to be actually
about herself. This is a little weird. Fast forward to now,
I only have about less than a month left in
this pregnancy. I mentioned to my husband how I needed
to know if she wasn't going to get the things
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I messaged her about because and then we need to
get them ourselves. I didn't want to worry about it
being postpartum. He messaged his mother in law and said
she ordered the bottle washer sterilizer come delivery time. It
wasn't it just a sterilizer? What my husband said? She
claimed I didn't send her the links, but I showed
him my phone. He told her, I was very clear
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to my message. We have to return it, and now
she wants us to go out of our way to
return it while I'm on bed rest with complication.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Wait, sterilizer? What what did she buy? I'm confused.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
I feel like maybe it was like a baby bottle sterilizer,
and she only got like a sterilizer for something else.
I don't know. Regardless, it wasn't the right thing.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
What does it sterilize?
Speaker 1 (40:45):
I don't know. Maybe it just got like hand washed. Yeah,
here's the sterilizer you want. She just bought my hand sanitizer. Yeah, yeah,
I just put this in the bottle. Baby's babies love it.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
I present alcohol, never cries, I've fit, never goes.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Right to sleep. I ended up making a boundaries post
about how I want things to go after delivery. Basically,
I don't want anyone in the waiting room for us.
We will have visitors when we're ready, and I didn't
want people showing up to our home. I read it
by my husband before posting to make sure we were
on the same page, and he agreed. He ended up
calling my husband asking if she could wait in the
waiting room to stay updated. I snapped and said no,
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I literally made a clear post about it, and that
I thought she was going to help us by watching
our dog while I delivered. In the phone call, I
overheard her say how when I delivered, she was going
to take time off work for one on one time
with the girls and I laughed and told my husband
absolutely not. No one is getting one on one time
with our tiny newborns except.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
For us, certainly not mama, who constantly critiques and buys
the wrong things.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Yeah, you can't be trusted, mama. My husband asked her
again how we actually just needed her help watching our dog,
who was very well behaved. We had a kennel and
everything ready and it would be only for two days. Max.
She's now refusing to watch our dog. Do you want
to help or not?
Speaker 2 (42:11):
She's like, no, I don't not that much.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Saying she can stay at her apartment or just come
over and let him out. I told my husband I
absolutely do not want her in our apartment. It's a
one bedroom and we converted our sun room into a nursery.
I don't want her sleeping in our bed. Our sofa
is too small, and I don't want to worry about
her going through our things. She told my husband she
doesn't want our dog at her house without him there,
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which was weird to me. Over the course of a relationship,
she would go on vacation countless times and I would
have to dog sit for her for weeks on end.
Yet the one time we need someone to watch her dog.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
It's an issue, yeah, because anytime you want her to
do something.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Well it, she just makes it about her. Yes, she's like,
I don't want to help you. I just want to
spend time with your heath.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
I want babies. I want that helped me when I
have things.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Hey, it's johnyo Og host here. We're going to get
back to the stories, but here's a quick three minute
break of ass from our sponsors. My husband and I
now agreed that we don't want to leave our dog
in a kettle over night. So my husband doesn't want
to board with him because he has separation anxiety from us.
So when I deliver, he's going to have to go
back home a lot take care of him, which upsets
me because it leaves me alone in the hospital. The
other day, I had to go to the er for
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pre eclampsia and hypertension. Yank, you tell us what that is.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
It's just like things that you know can develop after
the babies.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, wait, what is it?
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Pre Eclampsia is a pregnancy complication characterized by high blood
pressure and protein in the urine.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Is it that bad? Is it fine? Yeah? It needs
to be treated that it needs.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
To be treated.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
But yeah, but it's still pretty treatable. But it's still
like a complication that you don't want.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
You don't want that, And I was bawling because I
hated being alone at the hospital when all I wanted
was him there with me. I feel like the only
reason she's refused using now is out of spite. And
Camari Jade says, severe high blood.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Pressure, and there's a couple symptoms with it other than
the high blood pressure, but it's swelling in the hands,
feet and or face, severe headaches, vision changes, adominal pain,
and seizures.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Whitney Anderson says it's bad. Super Nova says it's so dangerous, Okay, jeez,
Like he's trying to find a loophole around my boundaries
to either stay at our apartment or be at the hospital.
I'm very firm on my boundaries. These are my first babies,
and I don't even know how birth is going to
go with the twins. She keeps asking my husband if
I know the day I'm getting induced yet, and I
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swear if she shows up at the hospital, I will
immediately have staff asked her to leave. Do we think
she's going to show up at the hospital or at home.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
I think that she's going to show up wherever she
wants to show up because she doesn't care about whatever anyway. Yeah,
it's only what she wants.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
This mother in law is no good. I want to know, Like, Sophia,
what would you do? Setting boundaries is like saying all
the right things to mother and law, saying like hey,
like do not show up, and like is there anything
else that you could do?
Speaker 2 (45:08):
I think the it's not really an Ope versus mother
in law thing, it's Opie's husband.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
I feel like the husband has been oddly quiet in
the story.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We haven't heard anything really
about like the conversations he's had. Yeah, and I think
he either needs to have a very serious conversation with
her or limit contact a lot.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
He needs to step up. Maybe he is and we're
just not hearing it, but it doesn't sound like he is. Yeah,
let us know in the comments what you think Opie
should do this whole pregnancy. Since the wedding, she has
never asked me how I'm doing or how things are going.
He hasn't been helpful, just adding more stress. I've been
to the er multiple times with complications, and only once
did she check on me, and even then she had
(45:52):
her mother call me instead of doing it herself. I
do updates on Facebook about pregnancy to keep everyone updated.
Since I have a family all over the country. Everyone
is appreciative of those updates and no one complains. I
don't reach out personally except my mother in law. She
tries to play oblivious to my posts, even though I
know she sees them. She just stopped liking them and said,
blows up my husband's phone, claiming he's trying to stay
(46:14):
updated when she could easily just reach out to me.
This whole thing has gotten under my skin and I
didn't want it to go all the way, but it did.
My husband has even been seeing how she's playing oblivious,
and he's been scratching his head about that, and I'm
just over it all. Bruh, you gotta do more than
scratch your head.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Stop scratching your head.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
You gotta do some action, Like oh, that sounds crazy.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
I think you need to face it a head on,
head on. Learn from amy not too much, though.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Not too much. Ever since the wedding, I lost trust
with her and was very offended on how she let
her friends treat my family and really made the day
about her. I don't like how she was already disrespecting
my boundaries without the kids even being born yet, and
felt like she's trying to find loopholes. I don't like
how she's now refusing to watch her dog went from
the getting she said she was, and now I'm going
to have to be alone at the hospital for some
(47:04):
time so my husband can watch them.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Do you not have anyone else that could take this dog?
Is there any other family members, friends?
Speaker 1 (47:12):
I mean you could take you can have anyone take
that dog.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Anyone can take this dog.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Yeah. I feel like there must be other other choices,
or even a dog sitter.
Speaker 4 (47:21):
Yeah, there's sitters, dog hotels, pet sitters.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
There is dog gotails are expensive.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
There is apps where you can hire like a house
sitter who's also a pet sitter.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yeah, and also a lot of those apps people are
at it. They're free, Like you can get a dog
sitter for free. Basically what it's like house sitting. So
the person sitting in your house gets place to stay
at your house and in exchange, you take care of
the dog. Yeah, which is pretty interesting. But I also
(47:51):
don't like how I feel like she's just avoiding me
now and wants nothing to do with me, but wants
a relationship with the kids, which doesn't sit well with me.
I just don't appreciate how she really hasn't been helpful
at all when I've seen how my family has done
so much for us and more. And I also want
to clarify I am by no means withholding anyone from
seeing the kids at the beginning. Yeah, I don't want
(48:11):
a lot of visitors because with twins, they're going to
be more underdeveloped than a singleton. And plus I've never
given birth before. I just want time to heal. And
mother in law has been talking about since the beginning
how she wanted to basically smother them, and I don't
want that. Yeah, I am I the egg hole in
this situation, but it's just been so stressful. That's where
(48:32):
this story ends. Question is opda hole? What do you
think feel?
Speaker 2 (48:36):
No? I think that you have like a family member
who has shown time and time again that they cannot
be relied upon, And I think it's a fair desire
to want to create a little bit of space between them,
And you're like, it doesn't have to be long term forever.
She's never allowed to see the kids. But you're going
you're gonna be in a very vulnerable state when you
(48:57):
give birth.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Yeah, I just feel like the mother in law's heart
is in the right place. It's like, it feels like
everything she's doing is self serving. She's just thinking about
her own feelings, just not trying.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
She's not trying to make this easier for yous at all.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Not at all. And like, you know, you're giving birth
to twins, you need all the support you can get
and you're not getting none of it. No, you're not
gonna get it anything. But unfortunately there's no update. Let
us know what you think, Oh p should do? I
feel like, oh, he's doing all the right things, but
maybe there's something else that you could do.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Hobby can do.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Hobby needs to stand up, needs to step up. But
that is where that story and this episode. And so
if you love us, make sure to subscribe.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
We love you and see you tomorrow.
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