We’ve been together for 2 years… but I think I might be the side chick! | Reddit Stories | EP2168 - ok storytime

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
We've been together for two years, but I think I
might be the side chick. Oh some details, but we're
both foreigners living in Europe. Names have been changed. Tim
is a very private person in general, and so maybe
some of the strangeness stems from that. By the way,
this comes from throw my Troubles Away and if you

(00:30):
want to submit your own stories, go to the r
slash Okay Storytime subpredet. So in order to explain everything,
I think I have to start at the very beginning.
Tim and I met at an event for native English
speakers after each of us i'd lived here for a year.
We hit it off immediately. Later that week we went
to a pub crawl with other people from the event
and hooked up oo ooooooooooo. Only a few days later

(00:54):
we decided to meet up again, but when trying to
decide if it be at my place or his, he
told me it has to be mine and he'll explain
why later.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yep, it's gonna be a great explanation. I'm sure for the.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Record, I do not live in an ideal situation to
be having people, much less men over, and he was
completely aware of the situation. He came over and told
me that he's currently still living with his ex girlfriend
of about three months.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Wait, does she know.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
That she's your ex girlfriend of a couple of months?

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Right? Also, they've been broken up for three months or
they were in a relationship for three months.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
I believe he's saying of an ex girlfriend that has
been broken up with for three months or three months.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
I see, Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
He had his own room and everything, but because he
had prepaid for six months of rent to lend her
some money, he was staying there. Okay, so yeah, I
know this is weird, but who am I to judge?
He says, they're definitely broken up, and I'm just sleeping
with the guy right now, so whatever. A few weeks
go by and we decide to start dating exclusively and officially.

(02:06):
He says, he's just living with his ex who will
name Stephanie temporarily for another three months and then I'll
find another place.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
All right.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
So it's a weird situation, but I trust him and
he'll leave in three months. He complains about having to
live with her and says it's uncomfortable. He also told
me why they broke up, which was because he caught
her cheating on him with her ex at a party rejection.
Are we telling our own story?

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Do we take the story and swap the names? Think so. So.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I'm not worried about them getting back together. I'm not
one hundred percent comfortable with the situation, but it's manageable.
If I never went to my partner's house who lived
with their ex.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yes, yeah, because like I could see where it's like, oh, hey,
hooking up there's kind of awkward, yeah, but like meeting
up like oh, I'll pick you up to go out
to dinner, like like.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Never been anything. A few months past and Tim doesn't
move out. He says he's now got his own little
apartment in the same house, but that it's so much
better for him to stay there because he doesn't have
to buy any furniture and the rent is cheap. Remember,
we're foreigners, so buying a ton of furniture that you're
just gonna have to sell when you leave is annoying.

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He eventually starts saying that he's going to bring me
over there to show me that they're living separately and whatnot.
Long story short, that never happened. Oh, every time I
asked him about her, he said that she'd get upset
and blah blah blah. Apparently she was aware that he
had a girlfriend, but didn't like it and wanted to
get back together. Op doesn't have a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
No Nichols, and no dam I don't mean.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
To be mean to Eup. I understand. I understand you
haven't done anything wrong, However, thought that's checking their gut.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Oh, he hasn't done anything wrong, but he hasn't thought right. No.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
After a year, he finally moved out, not into his
own place, but into the spare room at his buddy's house.
I have been to this buddy's place before only once, though,
and that has been the one and only time I've
ever met one of his non mutual friends, which is
suspicious and strange on its own. I didn't help with
the move, not for lack of trying. So no, I

(04:24):
never saw him move his stuff there. Again, this was
a temporary solution until he found a place of his own.
Do we have any proof that he moved through various
circumstances company being bought out, which led to job and security,
him being extremely picky about finding an apartment. He has
still yet to move into a place of his own.

(04:45):
It's been about ten months since he moved into his
buddy's place and I've yet to be there. Even though
I've asked many times, he always says yes, and then
later says that he just want to intrude or be
a nuisance. So essentially, I've never seen where he lives.
Those things, along with me never having met his friends
or skyped with his family, are the underlying basis for

(05:05):
my suspicions. But here's where the real stuff comes. Oh
last night, when I couldn't sleep, I went Facebook stocking.
I search for tag photos of Tim because I knew
he's weird about his Facebook and doesn't let tagged pictures
and posts show up on his wall. While going through
the pictures, I found three pictures of him while he
was visiting home over the summer. In each of these

(05:28):
three pictures, there is a girl who is untagged and
sitting next.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
To Tim how close.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
In two of the three pictures, his arm is around her,
But the pictures are more posed and everyone's arms are
around each other. Two of the pictures are with friends,
so I figured she's a friend from home, no big deal.
In one picture, though, they are with his sister and
her husband and daughter, so a much more intimate picture.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, almost like their family in the married sense, Ailien
the marriage or like long term dating sense.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
I do not know what Stephanie looks like, and she
doesn't have Facebook. I can't find a picture of her
through googling, but I think this girl might be her.
I don't know exactly why I think that.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
But I do.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I did some more Google research and found Stephanie's grandmother's obituary.
She passed away in January, so after Tim would have
moved out of the house, and definitely after they should
have been broken up. And yet on the obituary his
name is listed next to Stephanie's as members of the family.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
As members of Stephanie's family, which could be husband.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
I do know that he was close to the grandmother
and that she left him stuff in her will, but
still I'm suspicious. Opie's staring at a burning forest fire
and is like, I smell smoke. Wonder where that could
be from?

Speaker 3 (06:56):
But is it on fire? No.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
If so what I suspect is true, that means that
he was able to hide this from me and her
for two years, which is honestly just impressive. Well, when
you have the sleuthing skills of a rock, it's not
that hard. Right now, though, I'm stuck. I don't want
to bring up my relatively weak evidence with him until

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I can be sure, because he'll just have an excuse
and I'll just accept it because I want to trust
him and be with him. I don't know how to
get any more proof that the girl in the pictures
is Stephanie, or how to know for sure one way
or the other. So that's where I'd like advice. I'm
not going to break up with him without knowing one
hundred percent, because I honestly do love him, but I
don't know how I can know one hundred percent. Any

(07:41):
advice or help is appreciated, And there are some relevant
comments and I can already smell them coming.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Ah, but do you have.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Any thoughts before we get into said relevant comments.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
I mean, we have the quickest and easiest thing we
could say ever that will immediately get to at least
major alarm bells, if not the exact plain truth right
in front of us. Hey, it's been with two years.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Two years.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Hey it's been two years. It's crazy. I haven't seen
your place. We're going to your place tonight. Yeah, you
and me together?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Do you have his address? Do you even have his address?
What if something happened to him? How do you not
have his address?

Speaker 3 (08:25):
And then you know what would happen is he'd be
like okay, yeah, yeah, sure babe, Like let's do it.
And then they go they go into a place that's
like bare walls, but like just like three pictures of
like the two of them are like, uh, is this
like an Airbnb?

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Or he takes her to an Ikea. He's like, yeah,
this is where is where I live, just like this.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
In interior design. You know, it's like, oh, let's let's
FaceTime actually, and then he's in this.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
You can get away with that great point. How have
they never FaceTime?

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Who are those two old people looking at your mugs
in the background? That's you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Great kind of insane that we like, I just don't
understand how you haven't in two years seen his place,
freaking face timed him in his place, asked to meet
his ex girlfriend, who he's living with, Like asked him
meet any of his friends, his family, like two years

(09:27):
and none of that happened.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
I think there's an underlying, she said, a little part
where she's like, I want to like confront him with
the stuff, but then he'll give me an excuse and
I'll just accept it because I want to be with him.
It's where it's like, you're so non confrontational that you're like, I, A,
I don't want to bring it up if he gives
me any pushback. So it's like, hey, guys, we we
deserve things like, hey, are you cheating on me for

(09:51):
two years or not? Because of all of said evidence
and suspicions. These are questions that we are entitled to ask.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yes questions from the relevant commentaries. How long have they
been seeing each other? We see each other at least
twice a week, usually more, and he spends the night
almost every weekend. Another commenter says, that's an awful lot
of time to spend away from home with a mistress.
Good point. You mentioned that you are two hours away
from their old apartment. What would allow him to be
away for so long so regularly his job? Is he

(10:21):
still that far away? After moving out, do you ever
do anything in his area? Or are you always in
your area? There's a lot of suggestive hooks for Reddit
to latch onto you ear, but there's not a ton
of meat within your posts to come to an absolute conclusion.
Opie says their old apartment is only about forty minutes away. However,
because I don't have a car, i'd have to get

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there using public transport, and because it's in the middle
of nowhere, it takes me about two hours to get there.
Go go on a weekend, I don't care.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Go mission the place you can go. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Maybe there's like a nice restaurant up there.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, well, so get him like a little gift or something,
and be like, hey, I.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Don't think he's He's said he's not there anymore. This
is the old apartment.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Right, so, yeah, she doesn't even he's at his buddy's
place right now? Is that? Yeah? So he says, cool, right, right,
right right.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
The new apartment is only a twenty minute drive and
much closer to where he works. He does not travel
for work that often, and when he does, it's usually
only for a night or two. During the week, we
mostly stick to doing things around where I am because
I live near to the city where they are actually
things to do. Plus, like I said, getting around where
his friends are is an annoyance with public transportation, and

(11:33):
drinking and driving is definite no go. Does he cancel
plans a lot? Yes, he cancels or comes lake quite often.
I don't know exactly where the new apartment is. I
know the village it's in, but not the address. As
I said before, I've never really met any of his
friends except for one of them one time.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
I have a conspiracy theory. Please tell me.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
I think he's a child. I think just a child
or well, no, I think like maybe I don't because
it's a good point of you know, he spends a
lot of time with Op right, probably really hard to
make all of that, you know, like add.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Up for a partner.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
I think maybe he is actually I think it's a
possibility that either he's cheating, yeah, or he is actually
broken up but has a child that he's not told
OP about. And so that's why you know that, you
know that. That's my considracy theory. I think I think
it's one of those that's pretty good, that's pretty that
could be it yeah, there is an update six weeks later. Oh,

(12:36):
do you have any thoughts before or conspiracy theories? Have
your own?

Speaker 3 (12:39):
I have none. Okay, let's dive right in.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
All right, six weeks later, So it's been a while
the story was developing and I didn't want to update
without knowing anything for sure. I never expected my post
to get so many comments, and minus the few comments
and PM's about being a salute that now what he's
in like a two year committed relationship.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Ha.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
I really appreciate all the input everyone had, and I
read every single comment and message. So first off, thanks
to everyone. As many people suggested I do, I started
with a conversation with Tim Nice where I made very
very clear how much the whole situation bothered me and
why it was an issue for me. I tried to
show him things from my perspective and tried to make

(13:22):
him understand why I was so upset.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
He said he.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Understood and apologized profusely. He cried and I cried. He
said it was never his attention to hurt me, and
that he hadn't realized this had been such a large
issue for me, and that he had been selfish about it.
He said it was all gonna change, and that I
would meet his friends and see where he's staying and
get to skite with his family.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Is there going to be funneled through?

Speaker 2 (13:49):
He said I was the most important part of his
life here and that he can't imagine his life without
me in it. He said he wants to find an
apartment for us to live together, and that when I'm
done with school, he wants to go back home together
for good. He also told me that the girl in
the pictures was an old family friend and that he
was in the obituary because he's still close with the
family and they still wish I was a part of

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the family. I decided to wait and see if he
actually held up his end of things this time, and
so we made up and all was well. What I
didn't mention is that during my snooping phase before this conversation,
I found the phone number to the landline where Stephanie
lives and decided to give it a call, asking for Tim.

(14:30):
Stephanie's dad answered, and when I asked for Tim, he
told me to call his cell phone because this was
the landline, so not exactly helpful. Before you guys freak
out about the dad, thing males is like a duplex
where their parents have their own aff and Stephanie has
her own APF. This is not uncommon in small villages here.
A couple days after Tim and I talked, he texted
me asking if I had called Stephanie's home asking for him.

(14:53):
I decided not to lie and admitted it. He said
that she texted him saying that some girl with an
accident had called the house asked for him, and he
immediately thought it must have been me, like really not
covering track, Soupie, if we're gonna snoop, do better.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yeah, but you shouldn't be stooping. You should be you know, condulker,
You should be talking. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
I explained that I did it because I felt desperate
for answers and just wanted to know what was going on.
I also told him that it was inconclusive. He got
very upset and said I had betrayed his trust and
that I was acting like an insane person. He isn't
exactly wrong about that part, but I explained that I
felt forced to take such actions because I felt like

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I was never going to get any answers any other way.
I apologized for the invasion of privacy and for bothering
Stephanie and her family. After a few days, he calmed
down and forgave me. I knew this is gonna happen, saying, however,
that this may push back me meeting his friends because
he told them what happened and they were pissed that

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I would treat him that way. Shock, or he found
an excuse to push back meeting people and seeing his
house shocking.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
We talked about this yesterday. Wormhole goal posts is where
you take a goalpost, throw it in a wormhole and
then wouldn't you know it's now light years away and
we can't reach it now.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
I waited a few weeks to see if anything would change,
and unsurprisingly it did not. So this past weekend he
got very wasted one night and I was able to
open his phone with his fingerprint while he was sleeping. Again,
I am not an advocate of this at all. I
think that if you've gotten to this point, which Ope
clearly has, of lack of trust, relationships kind of not

(16:35):
working anymore. Yeah, However, it doesn't seem like op he
is able to get out on her own.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah sound I think if Obia had said, hey, just
so you know, there is no trust until we've you know,
met the parents, senior place and met your friends. Like,
until then, I cannot trust you. Yeah, it's just that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
I found text from Stephanie from the day before talking
about what they should make for dinner that night. Told
me he was out of town for work that night.
I found lots of hearts and I love.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yous family friends. Yeah, yeah, you go, I cook dinner
for him?

Speaker 2 (17:10):
You know. Oh, your wife is your family friends.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
You know? Yeah, yeah, your family And Sam's out here
cooking dinner with strangers. You know, he's just if you
can cook dinner for strangers, can we not cook dinner
for a family friend?

Speaker 2 (17:21):
I mean? And even him using the same pet names
for her as he does for me.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
He's not creative easy.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
He told her he was going out of town this
weekend for work and how much he'd miss her. I
looked through the past few weeks of messages between them
and saw that he had sent her quite a few
of the same pictures that he had sent me. He
had invited her to have a glass of wine with
his buddy and her girlfriend. He picked her up from
work multiple times, and there were lots of conversations about
who was making dinner that night and what they should eat. Dang,

(17:50):
this guy has some excellent time management. Bro horrible person
excellent time management. It still could again manage a company
he has. You know, it could be could be a friend.
He's lazy with pet names. You know.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Hey, that's we still don't have the true blue evidence.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
I went back and looked for dates where I knew
he had slept over with me and he had always
told her he was crashing a friend's place out of
town for work or something along those lines. I also
found a group text message titled family that included Tim,
his sister, his mom, and Stephanie. I looked at pictures
of Stephanie that she had sent him and was able
to very obviously see that it was her in the

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pictures that I found on Facebook.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
So you guys were right.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
For the last two years, he's been living with her
and seeing me on the side, all the while telling
me how much he loves and admires me and how
we're gonna have a future together.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
I'm gonna sneeze, no, I'm we're allergic to this. Bs's
logic to this.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
I have been duped and taken advantage of and I
feel like a complete idiot because of it. I haven't
talked to him yet, but when he comes over later
in the week, I plan to tell him that I
know everything. I also plan to tell him that he
is a complete a hole. In my ideal conversation, he'd
explained to me why he did this and what the
FI was thinking doing all this, But I'm pretty sure
those are just things that I'll never know or understand. Obviously,

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I will break up with him, yes, yeah, I also
plan on contacting Stephanie with a letter telling my side
of the story, which is what I was You know,
I was hoping that I'll pee, would you, Yeah, honestly,
just call call back that number and be like, hey,
it's me again. Your husband is cheating on you.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, it's like, uh yeah, just go ahead and call
me back with the cell phone this time. We're gonna
want to hear this one.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Nina Nelson says. I hope will he tells Stephanie very
clearly about this and then moves on forever. I will
give her the dates that I know he spent the
night with me. Just take pictures of all this, honestly.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Take pic I would send screenshots of all of the
conversations with him, saying, oh, you know, I'll.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Be honestly just like yeah, like say literally everything, send him,
send her screenshots from his phone of all the conversations
that you guys have had.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
And that's kind of It's nice because it's like a
lot of times people don't want to do the petty revenge,
but this is actually a it's not petty revenge, but
it helps Stephanie out right, and it exposes him at
the same time, exactly nice.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
I also plan to include a USB stick with pictures
of Tim and me for the last two years and
screenshots of some of our conversations from the last couple months.
O nice. I can't make her believe me, but I
want to at least do my best for her. I
feel like I owe it to her as a fellow
human being to let her know what kind of man
she's been with for the last four years. I am

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open to absolutely any advice on my plan and on
how to move forward from this. I won't lie. I
feel so lost and so helpless right now by breaking
up with Tim, I am losing a huge part of
my life in this country, and I'm definitely going to
be feeling this hole for a while, so any help
is appreciated. Thank you guys so much for listening. And
sorry this is long aft carried away and there is

(21:02):
a second update, folks, Oh do you have any thoughts.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
I'm glad that we finally got to the obvious truth, the.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Very obvious truth, yes.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
And that we are now moving on from here. I
do hope in this update that we get to see
Tim crumble. And I'm curious. I'm just dying of curiosity
to see what the fallout is going to be. Oh
and like I very quick, okay, storytime, I have like

(21:40):
a loose friend who was seeing this guy and turns
out that he had a wife of five years. And yeah,
the thing is.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
There are signs, there are ways to tell if, like
for advice for everyone, if your partner that you start
dating says that you can never come to their house,
that they're living with their ex girlfriend, but you can't
meet them. They're always gone and they're you know, giving
you kind of weird excuses as to why they can't

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make events or they're canceling plans. You never meet their friends,
you never meet their family. You know, when the time
like a normal time to meet family, comes around good good,
you know, signs that something's not right.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
And if they come home on a Sunday morning covered
in glitter and you say, hey, why are you covered
in glitter? That's a little suspicious and they say, oh,
I was at Sunday school with my mom helping the
kids do arts and crafts.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Little sus but we got another update.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Again.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
I'd like to start off this post but the thank
you to everyone who responded with constructive and helpful advice.
So I took your advice and did not try to
have a conversation with Tim. I realized that since he
was so so successfully able to manipulate me for two years,
having one less conversation with him was bound to end
up with me doubting my findings and perhaps my sanity.
I honestly agree with that, because I do think that

(23:12):
you'll believe whatever he says.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Good contextual advice.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
I wrote Stephanie a three page letter detailing the relationship
that Tim and I had over the past two years,
making clear that it was serious and not just a fling.
I mentioned dates and events that most people would not
have known about, and I included the intricate lies and
backstory that he had told me. I included a list
of dates from the last two months that he spent
the night with me and encouraged her to cross check

(23:37):
them with nights that he wasn't at home. I printed
out a few photos of us as quick visible proof,
and I included the rest of the photos on a
USB stick in the letter. The stick also contains screenshots
of any particularly incriminating conversations that we've had over the
last few months. I scanned postcards that he had sent
me from various vacations and included those as well or

(23:59):
safety I also included a copy of the letter in
case the hard copy went somehow mysteriously missing. I gave
her my email address and phone number and asked her
to contact me if she wanted to. On Wednesday night,
I had someone drive me to where she lives. If
Tim was there, I would just have confirmation then he
actually lives.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
There and we'd leave.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
If he wasn't there, I'd ring the doorbell and handle
the letter personally. We drove the forty five kilometers and
Tim was sitting there in the living room on his laptop.
It was obvious he lived there. Oh, you should pull
a love actually and knock on the door hopefully the
Stephanie answers and do the have you seen that scene?

(24:40):
It's okay, it's very same. They also make fun of
it on msnl's skit.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
It's a very popular scene. Yeah, they do. Like the
Q card. Yeah they got don't say anything.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yes, say it's Carol Singer or Carol Singers and then
just being like I've loved you all this time. There's
a very funny SNL sketch with a pete. But anyway,
I think we should do that. Yeah, I say it's
Carol Singers. Your husband's been cheating on you with me
for two years.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Sorry heart heart emoji emoji.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
She was nowhere to be seen. His and her names
were on the mailbox. I called to see if he'd
picked up, and he ignored the call. We headed back home.
On Thursday morning, I mailed the letter. I ensure that
it was a registered post In order to receive the letter,
she'd have to show her ID and sign for it.
On Friday, the letter arrived, she was not home, so

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she received a notification to go pick the letter up
at the post office. On Saturday morning. She picked it
up and I got an email of the receipt with
her signature on it. Throughout all of this, I conversed
normally with Tim, which crazy. I was thinking about that
really impressive to converse normally with your partner who you
know has been cheating on you, Like wells, you've been

(25:54):
kind of the side.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Chick for two years.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Ye yeah, and made excuses as to why he couldn't
come over during the week so as to not tip
him off to anything. You stopped talking to me about
twenty minutes after she picked up the letters Saturday morning,
and I have not heard from him since. He has, however,
defriended me and my family on Facebook. I haven't heard
from Stephanie either. By the way, you can always hear

(26:19):
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Speaker 3 (26:27):
There's a little bit to the story.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
But uh, oh boy, oh man. Wow, you just know
that fallout was crazy. You just know you know the
fact that twenty minutes after she got that letter, like
twenty minutes.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
After she picked it up. Yeah, immedia blocked immedia.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Damn, dang man, dam.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
I wish it's messy, but I wish we could have
been a fly on the wall to see.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
So badly do I want to know what happened.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
We want Tim to face justice. Justice.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, Sophia Colone says, ohp might have been stupidly handling
the relationship, but she is freaking brilliant.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
She knows how to handle the aftermath. She knows how
to handle the aftermath. We cannot deny that, cannot deny that.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
There is a little bit left to the story. But yeah,
oh Pee, please take her advice for future relationships.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Please do so now it's really over.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
I hope with my whole heart that he was not
able to lie and manipulate his way out of the
situation with her, but I'll probably never know. I do
not expect to hear from him again. I feel very lonely,
taken advantage of, and beaten down. I'm going to do
my best to try to come out of the situation
without trust issues and without being cynical and jaded. I
am seeking therapy to make sure I don't slip into depression.

(27:48):
For now, I need to find ways to distract myself
and fill up any free time. Thanks again for all
your help and quick edit. I forgot to mention that
I'm going to go get tested on Tuesday to be safe. Obviously,
if anything comes out of that, I'll do my best
to notify both of them. And that is the end
of that story.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
And that's it. Man man oh man. Wow. Sometimes you know,
you just get in a relationship two years and you
don't see the forest fire in front of your face.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
You don't see the burning flames. It can't see it,
ah man. But that was the end of that story.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
That's right. My girlfriend charged me for rent, so I
started charging her car rides.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Hmmm, a little life for an eye.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Goodness, I don't like what this is going. So I've
been living with my girlfriend for about five years. When
the pandemic hit, I lost my place. At that time,
we'd only been dating for a year. I asked if
I could say with her temporarily while I figured things out.
She agreed, as long as I covered the rent and
she'd handle the other household expenses. It seemed fair, so
I moved in and paid the full rent each month.

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go to the r slash Okay Storytime seprend it. So,
lets say a year ago I found out the place
isn't rented at all. It actually belongs to her and
her family. She never told me they've never paid rent.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Okay, I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for some help, yes,
but to ask him to pay the full rent, the
full rent for a place that you're not paying for
is kind of crazy and not inform him.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yeah, as long as I because I read it as like, oh,
split the rent, as long as I covered.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
The rent full rent?

Speaker 3 (29:26):
How much are we talking about?

Speaker 2 (29:27):
That's crazy place that she doesn't pay for and she
didn't even tell him.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah wow, yeah, let's keep reading. Well. I felt pretty
hurt and betrayed. It wasn't just about the money. It
was the lack of honesty. Yes, yep. I brought it up,
expecting at least a serious conversation or an apology. Instead,
she basically said, you agreed to pay, so what's the issue.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
You didn't give him all the fat.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
You're the one giving me money, so oh oh you good, Yeah,
you gave me the money, so what heck?

Speaker 2 (29:59):
She literally scammed him?

Speaker 3 (30:01):
What the heck?

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Like when like old people like get you know, the
Nigerian prince scam. If you went to that old person,
you're like, well, you agreed to give the money was
the issue. They just got scammed, They.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Got duped bamboozled. I told her I wasn't comfortable continuing
to pay for something that doesn't cost her anything, especially
when she doesn't work and gets money from her parents.
Hey listen, she said, Hey, I'm about to double my
income over here. Yeah. I decided to start saving that
money instead. She then said her parents only allowed me

(30:33):
to live there because I was paying rent. I asked
her to talk to them about changing that, or at
least give me some time to save up and find
a place of my own, and she refused.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Dude, your parents, her parents are your landlords and you
didn't even.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Know right, that's crazy. She didn't even try to discuss
it with them. After that, I started making jokes. Whenever
she'd asked me to drive her somewhere, I'd say things
like that'll be five bucks, or your uber has arrived.
They were just jokes. I wasn't actually charging her, but
it was my way of poking fun at the situation.
Super quickly just to say this could get into dangerous

(31:12):
territory where you are communicating through the jokes instead.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Of that's exactly what's going on. Yeah, yeah, doing the
thing where like you, you know, try and approach conflict
using a silly voice. Yeah, I know, I'm mad at you.
I need you to wash the dishes. What if we
did that, which I've done before.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
I feel like I've heard whispers of that same voice
around the dishwasher in this house. I do this, Yes,
but for this severity of this situation, not great. Not great. Well,
she didn't take it well. We had a big argument,
and I told her that if she could charge me
to live in her house, I could joke about charging
her to use my car. Since then, things have been tense.

(32:00):
You stopped talking to me, started cooking just for herself,
and pretty much ignores me. This is the foundation of
a successful relationship.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
But this is like, this is what happens when you
get a roommate. You know, when you when you like,
whether it be relationship or friendship, Being roommates with someone
is the like final test. Actually, I would say that
the three major tests, well maybe two major tests that
I can think of are roommates and going on a trip.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yes, the pressure cooker who will survive. A few weeks ago,
she felt sick late at night and didn't tell me anything.
She just called an uber and left. I only found
out afterwards. This is bothers, the crap out of me
going somewhere, the silent treatment.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Oh sure, how old are these people?

Speaker 3 (32:47):
A great question? I'm going to guess early twenties. Yeah.
I told her she should have said something, but she
didn't seem to care. Now I'm sitting here just wondering
if I was out of line. I still feel like
I was taken advantage of, but maybe the jokes were
too much. Then again, if the roles are reversed, I
would have never asked her to pay rent to live
in a house that cost me nothing. So am I

(33:10):
the A hole? Quick question? Is OPV? A hole here?

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Sophia for the lack of communication? Yes, but uh for
being upset that your girlfriend was charging you rent under
false circumstances and not informing you about what the actual
situation was when she was actually not actually paying anything.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
You're not the Yeah, this isn't a either or situation.
This is two things true at once. Yes, it's not
the best. I don't know. I wouldn't call them an
a hole. But it's not a good communication style to
just try to insert, use jokes to insert what you
actually feel.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Not the a hole, but certainly not the best move.
It's not going to help your relationship.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Yes, absolutely, And she's again, you know, there could be
a scenario where if you guys had talked like maybe
you'd you chip in a little bit because you are
living there. Maybe that's what the parents want, or maybe
you can all come to an agreement of like, all right, hey,
you can stay here for free. This doesn't cost us anything.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
I don't think it's unreasonable for the parents or Opie's
girlfriend to ask him to pay not some of the rent.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Not at all. It's the it is the lying about it, yes,
and then refusing to talk to the parents like it's
it's total, and then stonewalling him and giving him a
full silent treatment. It's it's the full terrible communication that
has happened here, and also her like she doesn't really
care about how he feels. But we have some relevant comments. Hey,

(34:37):
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Speaker 3 (34:42):
Commentary number one says, no matter who owns the house,
you wouldn't live rent free. It's time for you to
move out. If you don't have a savings account with
enough money for a security deposit in two months rent,
it is time for you to get a second job.
Opie responds, the house is owned, and when that's the case,
there's no mortgage to pay, only the services you use
like water, electricity, et cetera. Again, I don't think it's

(35:04):
unfair for the parents, yeah, or them to ask some
form of if someone else was living there. They totally yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
I don't think it's reasonable to say that you shouldn't
be paying anything.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. Commentary number two says, nope. First,
many homeowners absolutely have mortgages. Yeah yeah, just because they.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
They say, he just said they paid off the margin.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Oh true.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah, I think that part was answered true.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
In fact, it's almost impossible to get a mortgage on
a house you don't own. If you're assuming there isn't
a mortgage because you were told her family owns the home,
that's unfounded. But even once the mortgage is paid off,
there's property taxes which can easily be ten thousand dollars
a year for a very modest house, insurance and maintenance.
Your use of the home creates wear and tear that
devalues it and its contents, and you living there is

(35:50):
an opportunity cost that space that isn't rented out to
a lodger or used for something else. Expecting to live
in your girlfriend or her family's house without paying is
not okay. And money or support your girlfriend gets from
her parents is her money, Yeah, that's yeah. If her
parents let her live there for free, yes, that's her parents.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
I think op is focused on the wrong thing.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Yeah, we need to get our eyes back on the
prize soldier. If her parents are providing her with free
rent or reduced rent to help her with her portion
of the bills, that has zero effect on your contribution,
Opie says. I'm from the Caribbean and in my country,
there are no mortgages on properties that you already own.
You only pay a tax if the property is a
very high value or used for commercial purposes, but that

(36:33):
doesn't apply to residential homes. I understand it's your money,
but I believe I deserve more consideration and honesty from
the start Again. Yes, honesty. No, you don't automatically get
free rent. You're not tilted That commentary number three says
one thousand percent not the a whole. All the people
saying you're the ahole overlook the fact that your girlfriend
doesn't have the job. So the money you're supposed to

(36:55):
be paying for rent is essentially paying for all the
utilities the girlfriend is supposed to be responsible for. Again,
good point. If but the parents, if the parents want
to cover that, then.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yeah, no, no, absolutely. But I think what they're saying
is like, she's told you, oh, I am paying for
the utilities.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Oh right, right, right, he's actually paying for the Yeah, yep. Honestly,
this would be a massive deal breaker for me. Had
she been up front and honest, you could have offered
to pay the utilities the food. But yeah, no, she
had to trick you into thinking something else. And Opie says,
and this is downvoted, by the way, that is the
essence of my frustration. Why not tell me the truth

(37:34):
and charge me such a full rent when you don't
even need it. I never intended to live for free,
but if your parents have been covering the other expenses
since before I moved in, then at least charge a
more reasonable rent.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
I think that is a fair ass.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
That is a fair ass. It's like, hey, I'm happy
to pay something. Can we work something out? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Well, I mean like even if you were in like
a regular situation, you wouldn't be playing the full rent.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Yeah, you know, like let's say, like, yeah, probably, you know.
Common number four says depends on what she was asking for.
Was the rent proportioned to what a single person would pay,
or is she asking you to pay the full rate
for two people living there? Point that is a good point,
including all utilities, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
How much you're paying, opimm.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Yeah, yeah, please, we need the deats regardless of whether
or not it was owned. I would never expect to
live there for free. I would happily pay fifty percent,
as I'm living in someone else's property. If you think
you should be living there for nothing, you're the ale gasp.
Opie responds to that the deal was that I pay
the full rent and she would cover the utilities. I

(38:39):
assumed that before I moved in, her parents were paying
the rent in other expenses since she didn't work, So
it was bittersweet for me to realize the truth. I
was paying rent for two people when I should be
paying for myself because she owns the place and her
share is already settled, so I guess maybe that also
means she has literal equity in the home as well.

(39:00):
Let's getting yeah, as her parents owning it. Besides rent,
I've also covered other expenses. She had been honest from
a start and told me she expected me to pay half.
I would have understood, but paying it all without transparency
felt more like a joke than a fair argument. Coming
to her. Number five says, I think you're way out
of line. What happened to you? Only staying till you
figure things out? If she's paying for water, power, internet, food, phone, shampoo,

(39:22):
dishop and so on, I say, you have a pretty
good deal. Have you seen the prices of one bedroom?
I hope, says. I've always bought my own personal hygiene
items and even hers too. It was never a bother
for me. After living together for a while, we both
agreed to stay that way because we worked well as
a couple and we were planning to get married once
she finished her studies. It wasn't a spontaneous decision, it
was something we committed to with dedication and a future

(39:44):
in mind. I know rent is expensive in other places,
but that doesn't justify hiding the truth or making rent
the priority when we could have been saving for a wedding,
travel or other shared goals that matter to both of
us and we have an update.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
I'm really surprised about how many comments are saying that, oh,
you like, you can't, you can't be mad about this
at all. Yeah, it's I don't understand that.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Guys come on like like, are we reading the same
story and this and this always happens. People fixate on
the surface level thing, which is like, oh pay, Oh,
here's how you split the rent. Da da, That's a
totally objective thing. Yeah, the true root of the issue
is a complete lack of communication in lying, yeah, and
stonewalling and lack of transparency. That is the real Obviously, Yes,

(40:30):
the split of rent is an important thing to consider,
but like, yeah, there's there's still even even if they
had an amicable a rent thing or he was paying
fifty percent or whatever, even just the lying alone is
enough to be like, yo, that's not cool.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah. Absolutely, Like, for example, if our landlord was like,
you guys need to pay this amount because we're paying
for mortgage still, and so you have to help us
cover that because you're living in the house. And then
we find out that there is no mortgage and we're
paying these extra fees for a lie. That would you'd
probably be upset about that.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Like transparency, even though you're dating, does not mean that
you get to like do whatever you want. You know, Yes, honestly,
it should make the like the contract even more important
because you have to be really careful. Like whenever you
do a job for a friend or family, you want

(41:29):
to make sure that the expectations are really lined out,
because doing a job living with someone.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Gets real tricky. It does.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Being a landlord to a friend or family real trick.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Being a landlord to your boyfriend even trickier, even trickier. Also,
this is this might be a bit of a reach,
and it does include some assuming. But she it's it
seems to me that she feels very entitled. Yes, I'm
going to get your rent and like I'm already she
doesn't work, she has everything to drive her. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Yeah, there's a lot of entitlement here.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
And anytime something just goes against you know what you are,
or he catches her in the line, She's like, Nope,
I'm not gonna talk to you.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
No bye.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Did yeah not cool? Not cool, But we do have
an update. Let's see what happens. Honestly, I wasn't even
planning on posting an update because some of y'all really
came at me like I committed a crime.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
I'm shocked by.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
You're under arrest. You used my original post as a
place to dump all your personal frustrations, especially that little
union of single moms. I now fully understand why they're single,
by the way, I guess. I guess some single moms
were mad. Yes, yeah, I get In the original story,
I might have come off as the bad guy. But
no matter what I said in the comments, no matter

(42:45):
how small the clarification, I was always painted as the villain.
Some of you acted like vultures, just waiting to tear
someone apart and feel morally superior about it, even though
a lot of the criticism said more about to you
than it did about me. Let's clear some things up.
The house belonged to her parents when I moved in.
I thought it was a rental and that her parents
were the ones paying the rent. When I moved in,

(43:06):
the condition was that I would pay the full rent,
which I agreed to. Less than a year ago, I
found out that the house actually belonged to her parents.
I asked her to talk to them about lowering the rent,
but she refused without even asking them. Now the house
is under her name. It no longer has anything to
do with her parents. And even then she didn't want

(43:29):
to lower the rent, so she bully owns.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Fully owns it.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Damn wow. That is such an awkward place to put
yourself willingly to be your partner's landlord and not, you know,
even try to commromise or be truthful.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
Wow, you're not thinking through the entitled person's mindset. To her,
she's like, oh, I get to keep charging money and
making money off my boyfriend, and now I own a
home that's insane like double money, so I don't have
to work.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
He is literally she's not working. He's funding her life. Yes,
he's paying full rent like, which is probably I don't know.
I don't even know how much he's paying.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Let's say I mean full rent for full rent. This
is also at least a two bedroom plays I mean
gotta be two grand like the very least like like
fifteen hundred to like thirty five hundred or something. Two
grand to thirty five hundred like that is that's sch money.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
And also this guy is not like he literally said,
he is in between you know. Yeah, he was trying
to save up money to go to move back.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
He doesn't have the savings for the deposit and everything
keeps to pay. This woman, oh golly, her salary. Yeah,
she's like, you're not gonna take my salary away from me. Yeah,
it's like I'm a real estate investor. Okay, it's true.
I clarified it like this because the translation seemed confusing.
I never said I shouldn't pay rent. What I said

(44:59):
is to my partner never told me the house was hers.
I was paying a rent that, compared to other places,
was pretty dang high, and I agreed to it in
the middle of a pandemic, which is like rent was
cheap in the middle of but hard.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
To find places though.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
But hard to find place, I mean, I feel like
it was probably people.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
I mean, I remember it being really hard for me
when I was trying to find a place when I
moved into when I was moving into a college department,
it was really really hard for me.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
To find a place.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
And the only actually reason that I found a place
is because my friend at time's mom bought a condo.
And that's literally the only reason I was able to
find a place. Like there were so many people students
who were living in like RV's Yeah, oh wow, yeah,
like at the beginning of school year because there was

(45:48):
just no housing.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
Yeah, I think it was like there were some places
like the it's like Austin and Arizona where was like
people were flooding in. It's like, okay, there's no places whatsoever.
And then there's places like downtown Manhattan where everyone's like,
I don't want to be trapped in a box.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Sure, yeah, I think it probably. And then of course
there's also a lot of rent forgiveness happening. Yeah, but
then also there was a lot of landlords who were like,
I'm hiking the rent.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
A lot of stuff was happening, A lot of stuff
we had at all, we had it all. Hey it's John,
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When I literally had no other option, I wasn't trying
to freeload. I was trying to survive. The issue is
that she maybe believe the house was her parents, and
now it turns out it was hers all along.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Oh wait, so it'll be the whole time too.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Yes, we just keep uncovering layers of the line.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
If you're paying more than other places are, asking, let's
move out.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
I even asked her to talk to her parents about
lowering the rent back then, and she refused. Now that
I know it's hers, I'm still expected to pay full rent,
no discussion. If we were living in a place neither
of us owned, we'd split the rent fifty to fifty.
But because it's hers, I cover it all. It makes
no sense. And again she just again, what's the root

(47:07):
of it? She doesn't care, She doesn't care.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
She literally she's only thinking about her lifestyle.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Yes, that's it. Yes, how does that make sense? Equality
only seems to apply when it benefits some of y'all
bringing up fairness, and suddenly it's pitchforks and double standards,
and a lot of you came at me like I
was your ex. I don't need blind support. I just
wanted perspective, but instead I got a courtroom. In a sentence, due, dude.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
I'm so upset. I'm so upset. I'm on your side.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
O B, We're on your side.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
I'm so upset. Please OP, I'm gonna go in comment
on that post and say you're not wrong.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
Yeah right. I feel like maybe there was like a
little group and they like kind of became the vocal minority,
because I can't imagine that the majority of people reading
this were like, oh my god, you're and it was
also can I think OP, maybe word of confusing or
there was a translation where it sounded like he was
saying I want to live for free, with the clarifications

(48:05):
like I never expected to live for free, just to
figure out like a more amicable scenario. Yeah, sure, yes.
Also huge cultural disconnect here. I'm Dominican. Where I'm from,
people don't deal with mortgages or mandatory home insurance. You
buy land or a house, pay one time transfer fee
or tax, and that's it. If something breaks, you fix it.
Most people don't have to pay insane monthly costs unless

(48:28):
they're dealing with banks or luxury properties. Basic services like
garbage collection are free in many areas. That sounds lit.
I pay the equivalent of three hundred and thirty three
dollars in rent in a country where the minimum wage
is around three hundred and ninety four dollars. So for context,
like that's basically like a full time minimum wage salary.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Wow yeah wow three indred Wait what was the So
the rent is three hundred and thirty eight, the minimum
wage is three hundred ninety four. Okay, question if we
do like three hundred ninety what's like a typical like
full time working job or minimum is that like forty hours.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Is forty hours times like fifteen dollars an hour?

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Yeah? Yeah, okay yeah, So and this is probably a
young twenty something who's just started working minimum wage jobs
is getting paid three hundred ninety four dollars a month
and paying his whole wage. Yes, that's crazy, Like obviously

(49:31):
I think like coming from LA like three hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Yeah, like incredibly different location.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Different location, totally, Yeah, different situation they tell you to
pay like thirty.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
This is ninety imagine paying ninety percent of your rent. Yeah,
your paycheck as your rent.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Yeah, that you can't live on, that you can't live on,
that you cannot And also he's paying for like groceries
and things, yes, other utilities. She's paying for you, except
he's paying for your tills. No, this is not okay.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Now I earn more than double that, and rent still
eats up almost half of my income. On top of that,
I contribute in other ways of food.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Yeah, he was saying, sorry, So he makes he makes
like six hundred and seven hundred.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Bucks, but still fifty percent is still crazy? Is still crazy.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
They don't want to be paying thirty And there's like
he's got all.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
His other expenses. So yeah, food, shared expenses, stuff we
enjoy together. My girlfriend doesn't work. She studied. Her parents
cover water and electricity, and I genuinely thought they were
covering the rent too.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Yeah, I'm sorry. When I studied, I worked too.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
It's possible, it exists. The world will not melt and
shatter in front.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Of us, And I really I highly doubt that she
was as busy as me. Oh, come on, girl, that's right.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Before moving in, I lived alone and paid one hundred
and sixty dollars, So that's about thirty percent.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Whoa, so he's paying about double Yes that that he was.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Wow, yep, this was a planned decision between the two
of us. We had a great relationship and we were
working towards the future together, not me trying to leach
off of her. By the way, if you would like
to leach off of our knowledge and good advice given Goofily,
you are welcome to do that by going to Spotify,

(51:23):
Apple iHeart and searching Okay, storytime and binging our catalog
of over two thousand episodes. Please enjoy it. It's guys,
I wish I had Sophia. Can I ask you this? Yeah,
think about your favorite show, your favorite podcast you listened
to if it had two thousand episodes available for you
to binge. Would that not be the greatest thing ever?
It would be because you always know, Hey, I can
always go to my favorite show and listen to it.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Yeah, it would be amazing. I always have to like
not listen to it and wait a while because then
I'm running that episode.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
You gotta save up. You don't have to save up.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
But you don't have to do that with us.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Binge immediately or I will cry.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
You don't want to see John when he's crying.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
No, you don't. I kind of do. Oh oh, I'll
be a little cry baby baby. But hosting this ghosts
But we are almost at the end of this story, Sophia,
any closing thoughts.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
I think that unfortunately you've had the conversations, you've been
lied to, un manipulated. Yep, you are paying way too
much in rents.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Indeed, she doesn't care.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
I think it may be time to move out and
maybe reconsider this relationship.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
When someone tells you who you are, who they are,
believe them, believe them.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Yeah, I mean you know what may like I honestly,
I don't know if this relationship can can survive this yeah,
or that it should. But maybe, you know, you move
out and it fixes all the problems.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
But then is it Is it fixing all the problems
because they don't have the pressure coaking that right, it's like, oh,
just don't to your two tests, you know, don't travel,
don't live together. Then it's like, well, but I.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Mean, is this the type of person that you want
to be in a relationship that you want to be
married to. Yes, she's been conditioned to know that she
doesn't have to support herself. Indeed, you know, and may
maybe it's because she's still in school and stuff and
like that is a totally different scenario. But she is

(53:27):
still a person that's gonna lie and you know, not
be truthful about your finances, which is a.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Pretty big red flag.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Absolutely, yeah, and of course maybe she can change, doesn't
mean she has to change with you so.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
That you're having folks. But let's get into the conclusion
of the story. Also, no, she doesn't do everything around
the house. I cook, I clean, I contribute, But I
didn't write out a full day to day breakdown because
I was asking for advice about to one specific issue.
Y'all ran wild, filling in the blanks with whatever narrative fits.
You're outrage So here's the update you didn't want. Oh,

(54:04):
we're still together and we're doing fine.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Okay, because you just kind of gave up because you
had a good conversation.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
And everyone who came at me with cheap insults and
zero nuance. I genuinely hope your night isn't as good
as you hoped. What a uh op doesn't want? Nice?
A mid threat problem. And we do have some top
comments to close out. Commatat number one, why did you
stay she lied and manipulated you for a year. How
did that not destroy your trust? Competation Number two says,

(54:37):
why the actual f are you still with her? You're
the a hole for staying in the relationship. Quit your witching.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
That's such an unsatisfying end. I'm sorry he just stayed
with her and we don't even get like we've been
working on our problems. Be communicated. She agreed to lower
their breath.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Nothing conspiracy theory. I think op was so triggered by
by the audience, He's like, you know what, I'm gonna
make this huge life decision, just staying with her just
to piss off these Reddit comments.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Well, my thinking was that he was so mad at
everyone in the comments that he's not actually telling them
the truth. He's just giving them the ending that he
knows they would hate.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
That could also be it too.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
I really hope for your saco Pee that you are
not with this person and that you have moved out
because you told us no solutions yep to the problems
that you gave us at the beginning of the story,
Like you came, you gave us all these problems, we
offered it by and then you changed nothing. So uh,
I don't know how anything could have been solved. I

(55:44):
guess good that it is solved, but I don't believe you.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
I don't believe it either. Yeah, I completely doubt it.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
I really doubt it. But we're gonna get into this
next story, let's do it. My husband's cousin's wife flirted
with him before our wedding. Now she wants to meet
for car A.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Long story short.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
My husband, Steven's cousin Dave and his wife Daisy, were
married in twenty nineteen. We have been very close to
Dave and Daisy throughout the years. We were even part
of their wedding party. We always went on vacations together,
to bars, to parties, concerts, We went on double dates,
to restaurants the beach, had dinner parties, and overall spent

(56:23):
a lot of time together. By the way, this comes
from ge Mercado zerozo five and if you want to
spit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay
storytime suffered it. So Stephen and I thirty one female,
got engaged in twenty twenty one and we decided to
get married in November twenty twenty two, a month before
our wedding. I met with Daisy for brunch while Steven

(56:43):
went for his final suit fitting with Dave. Dave was
his best man to say the least. Brunch with Daisy
consisted of bottomless mamosaoo.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
She didn't make it.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
To my bachelorette party in Europe, and she told me
the timing of my bachelorette conflicted with her work schedule
and she was not quite sure she fit into my life.
I told her I considered her one of my closest friends,
but not to worry, no hard feelings. She told me
she considered me one of her closest friends too, but
stated that she felt Stephen didn't like her that much.

(57:14):
I told her that was ridiculous and that Stephen absolutely
did love her. Then said, Dave has told her she
makes more sense with Stephen. Her partner told her that
she makes more sense with another guy that doesn't make
any sense. Well, Dave makes more sense with me. I'm
sorry that didn't happen. That didn't happen.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
So basically he's like, hey, we should we're better. Just
swap swap and it's gonna be so much better, right, guys, I.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Don't believe that happened. I think Daisy's lying. Oh, Stephen
is very attractive, and so is Daisy, and I responded
with I can see that you. I can see that
you both are very hot and let it go. What oh, pey,
Dave and I guess are pretty average looking sensitive beings.
I thought it was funny. The men picked us up

(58:05):
after brunch and we went to a bar. We were
talking about investments and the future, and when I asked
Steven if he loved Daisy, he said sure.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
And again wait, yeah, Steven. Sorry. Stephen is Opie's Steven is.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Op partner fiance and Daisy's with David. Daisy left to
the bathroom. We then migrated to another bar to meet
with Daisy's brother as he was going to play at
the guitar as I walked down the aisle on our
wedding day. By the time we got to the next bar,
Daisy and I were pretty schewested. I noticed that Dave

(58:41):
seemed upset and that Stephen was talking to him. I
asked Daisy what was going on, and she said, Dave
saw she had texted Stephen and he got upset. She
swore she did not say anything inappropriate in the messages,
but Dave now thinks they're having an affair.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Oh yeah, well you you.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
She I don't know because.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Daisy was like Daisy said that Stevens said, Oh, we'd
be better swapped.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Daisy said that Dave her partner, Dave. She says, Daisy
said that her partner. Dave said that, oh would be
better swat like better danty Dave and Daisy would better
be danting Stephen. But I don't believe that ever happened.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Crazy.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
She swore she was talking to Steven about my bridal shower.
I told her it's ridiculous that Dave feels that way.
He should have nothing to worry about, and I assured
her I would never think there was anything between her
and Stephen. When we left the bar, Dave still seemed upset,
but he wanted to go elsewhere. However, Stephen said we
had to go on the way to our car. I

(59:46):
asked Stephen why Dave would think he and Daisy were
having an affair.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
He said, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
She was texting me gibberish all night, so I asked
to see the messages, and he said he deleted them.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
Yeah, you know, I don't to have like gibberish like
you know, I got eye.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Clar fluttering up my phone.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
I want I want to keep it, you know, you know,
clean simple messages you know. I just like like, like
keep it or did you have.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Sending me all these weird symbols. They were like like
the greater than symbol or the less than symbol and
a three.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
I don't know what that means. What's less than three? Two?

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Yeah? So I deleted them. This happened when Apple had
released a new update where recently deleted messages could be recovered.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
On I Message. Ahah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
I received a spam text while in the car and
proceeded to delete it. I Message notified me of the
new function with it with the update, thank you for explaining. Ope,
so I told Steven, with the new update, you can
recover recently deleted messages. He recovered the messages, and it
turns out that when she went to the bathroom at
the second bar we were at right after I asked

(01:00:55):
Steven if he loved her, she texted Steven saying they
needed to talk. Stephen asked why and said sure after
the wedding, but that he did love her, with a
smiling emoji at the end. She's taking that totally the
wrong way, Bud. Why are we using the word love?
Why why don't we just use like, hey, yeah, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
He's British's you. But that's but they say like, oh,
good love right, Like they don't say I love you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Yeah, they don't usually go I love you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
No, he's British, he's British.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
She said it could not wait until after the wedding.
Daisy then asked if they were in a soap opera.
He asked her what she was talking about, and she
asked him not to make her say it. You proceeded
to say he was confused, and she finally said that
she wanted him.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Oh, this was the gibberish.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
This was the gibberish.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Yeah, why wouldn't you be like look what she texted me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
He asked since when, and she said since always. He
told her they will talk and to delete these messages.
She asked when and he said tomorrow. So she was
anxious and nervous, but would wait until the next day.
She sent some gibberish texts. After that, he asked her
again to delete the messages and mentioned they would talk.

(01:02:09):
She then said I'm so over you, and he responded with, uh,
that was fast. I looked up at Steven after reading
the messages and said, this is not gibberis she said
she wanted you. He said, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
This guy. I feel like his whole vibe was like
that was some gibbers. I just deleted it. Yeah, I
don't know. I got furious.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
I was yelling in front of my apartment building because
I felt betrayed and stupid. Steven's responses to where it
can be interpreted many ways, but he claimed he was
trying to do damage control because we were all so
close and were friends. He swore he did not mean
his responses in any harmful way. But I told him
deleting the messages made him look suspicious and asked why

(01:02:54):
he didn't tell me right away. He said I was
wasted and he wasn't sure how I would react, and
Dave's obsessed with Daisy and he didn't know how he
would react in the moment either, as we were all drinking,
which is why he told her they would talk the
next day because he was so unsure of everyone's reactions
and needed to play it safe. The next day, we

(01:03:14):
got a text from Dave asking to meet for coffee
to talk. He said Daisy mentioned to him she might
have sent some inappropriate messages to Stephen, but she couldn't
remember what and it appears her messages were deleted. Stephen
refused to.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Meet wait because also he was saying like, oh, I
didn't want to be to be messy and everything. We
were drinking. But David already confronted Stephen that night because
Opie was saying like, oh, they were like talking. It
was like he did. It was already the message.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
So it's already messy.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Just say it you suspicious.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Yeah, and then David said like, oh, well, Daisy told
Opeede that David thought that she was cheating with Stephen.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Yes, so all.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Of this was already out.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
It was already there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
A few days later, Stephen spoke to Daisy via text
and sent her screenshots of the messages. She apologized profusely
and took accountability for her actions. She showed the messages
to Dave, and Dave sent a message to Stephen about
how he and Daisy spoke and they were addressing the problem,
how Daisy had panic attacks over the situation and they
were wanting to mediate and talk. He said that he

(01:04:15):
knew the person that night was not the real Daisy,
and that's why he can be protective of her when
she drinks.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
We did not meet with them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Our wedding was only a few weeks away, and we
wanted to focus on each other. Dave was insisting on
backing out of attending the wedding due to the situation,
but he was the best man. Daisy texted me apologizing
for her betrayal and said she felt she should opt
out of the wedding. I told her if she did,
Steve's best man would not show up on one of

(01:04:43):
the most important days of his life, but that it
was their choice if they showed up for Stephen or not.
She asked me if our friendship had the possibility of
being saved, and I said I needed time. By the way,
I need you guys to take time to listen to
full episodes of story just like this. Just go to Spotify,
Apple Podcast, or iHeart Radio and search a.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
Pokey story time.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
But there is a little bit left to this story.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Do you have any final thoughts?

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Okay? They went to the wedding. I was super wasted bride,
and at the end of the night, I grabbed her
in a tight hug and whispered in her ear, I
forgive you, but I will f you up.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
What is this friend group?

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
This is vile?

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
What is this crazy I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Just I forgive you, but oh, if you up. We
saw them once more for friendsgiving, and it was awkward.
I couldn't control my iciness, and I'm not sure if
I ever really do forgive her. Daisy asked me to
meet with her on this coming Sunday for coffee. It's
been five months now. I agreed, but I don't know
how to feel or how I'm going to feel when

(01:05:48):
I see her again. Any thoughts coming? One says Daisy
needs to stop drinking if she gets like this. Reply
it was the real Daisy. He just hadn't seen that before.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Comment two. I wouldn't be friends with her. She already
showed you who she was wasted or not. She's a snake,
and I would be wary of your husband as well.
Deleting messages and telling her they'll talk tomorrow, not automatically
shutting her down is a big no no for me.
Why are you inviting this person into your home? Comment three?
He how can a grown adult get so wasted? Text

(01:06:22):
their husband's cousin tells, said cousin she has always wanted him,
and then used the line I didn't know what was happening.
You stumble words and say off the wall crap. Going
to the bathroom to secretly text another man was not
a wasted mistake. Well it was, but the only mistake
was bringing it up. Those are her true feelings. Comment four.

(01:06:43):
Steven looks like the only one to have his ducks
in a row?

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
Are we do one of the same, Stephen, I don't
know about that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
He single handedly managed three dramas at once with wasted people.
I disagree with that comment.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Same.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Steven's not good at handling anything.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Literally, not at all. The exact opposite.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Actually, yeah, he's pretty. He's kind of created a lot
of these problems. But folks, that's the end of that
story and the end of this episode. I know, shock,
But if you love us, make sure to subscribe We
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