Comedian Bert Kreischer: My Constant Battle with My Inner Critic (Overcoming Anxiety, Chasing Approval & The Pressure to Be Funny)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My dad's mentality is if you don't get on stage,
if you don't show up to work, all the stuff
that could possibly make your life great just disappears. No
matter what, you show up, get out there and grime
the number one health and well In his.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Podcast, Jay Seddy Jay Sheddy Z. Hey everyone, Welcome back
to On Purpose. I'm your host, Jay Sheddy, and today
I'm sitting down with one of the most entertaining and
unstoppable forces in comedy, Burt Kreischer. From being named Rolling

(00:34):
Stone's number one partier in the nation to becoming one
of the highest grossing stand up comics, Bert has built
an incredible career as a comedian, actor, podcaster, and entrepreneur,
with six Netflix specials to his name. Bert's latest special, Lucky,
was number three in the top ten most watch TV
shows on Netflix. Bert continues to sell out arenas and

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is also the co host of Two Bears One K,
one of the top comedy podcasts worldwide. Bert's energy, storytelling,
and ability to connect with audiences is unmatched, and I
can't wait for you to hear it. Welcome to On Purpose,
Burt Kreischer. Bert, you know what's funny? What I still
remember the flight we were on together and we sat

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down next to each other. And I'm going to sound
like such a douche for saying this, but I have
to say you were the nicest person in the world,
and you were so kind and you were like I
can't remember how you started the conversation. Maybe you can,
but you were like, I really like your stuff, I
love what you're doing. And I was the idiot who's
living under a rock who was like, I think I

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know what you do. It's really cool, but I don't know.
And I came back and I told my team, I
was like, I sit next to Burt Kreischer, like you know,
a texting. He's such a nice guy. He was so wonderful.
And they were like, you met Burt Kreischer. They're like,
he's amazing, he's funny. And I was like, I'm the
idiot who doesn't know. And it was just one of
those moments where like, you were so kind, you were
so in and you were so sweet, and I was

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really touched by the interaction. I never in a million
years thought the number one part here in the world
and me would have something in common.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
So you've got a weird thing that like, usually only
like Reese Witherspoon or or Jennifer Aniston get where you're
strikingly attractive. So when I sat down next to you,
I was like, who's the eyes are these? And then
I was like, wait, I know him. I was like,
oh shit, oh shit, this is Jay Shehtty. I've listened

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to so many of your interviews. You're so good, You're
so good and so uh yeah. I was so excited.
And then I get told by like my friends with
a professional wrestler, Cody Rhodes, and he said, you know,
when I met you, I've never seen more of a
pro wrestler personality like you. You explain yourself with it
a sentence and then and explain why you should like me.
And I'm like, but it's yeah, I'm a talker on

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a plane.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
And you are so funny already. And I was like, oh,
this guy's hilarious because you were like, you know what,
like you, You're you're good, but I'm a pretty big
deal too, you know, sound like me? It was, but
it was it was endearing, like I want to put
it out there like I'm not trying to overcompensate, but
it wasn't arrogance. It was like I was laughing with you.
It was just so you just broke the eyes and

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I was like, this guy's amazing.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Texted such a I'm such a fan of yours. I
really am.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Well now I am too, So that's what I wanted
to do on the show.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
When this opportunity came up, I was like, but it's
the best. And then I got to watch the special too,
and I was just like, I really wanted to get
inside your mind. I was like, I really want to know,
you know, the person behind the amazing success that you've had,
and and the and the wonderful, endearing person you sit
next on the plane. I was gonna ask you probably
had some crazy plain stories. Oh no, no, what's what's
the craziest plane story you've ever had? Seeing as that's where.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
We met, I got I got a good one, all right.
I'm gonna say real names too. I sat next to
a woman first class when I was just married with
kids like I had Isla and George, but they were
still really young. And the woman was coming back from Tibet,
and she was like, had the beads on and Hannah
all over hot, attractive, probably a little older than me,
maybe i'd say forty three. I was thirty maybe six

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at the time. And we start having drinks and we're
talking and then she says, uh, what are you doing
when you land in LA I said, I'm going home.
She goes, don't come to my place. Let's have sex.
I said what. She goes, Uh, I've been amount of divorce.
That's why I went over to to bet. I'm a
little lost, but I'm just looking to get and I
went okay. I said, listen, I'm married, and so you

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got the wrong guy. I go, but I got the
right guy for you. She said really, And I said
trust me. Can you just trust me? So we land
and I call Mike Young. He's a real name. I go, Mike,
and you want sex tonight? And he was like with you.
I go, no, I got a beautiful woman forty three
years old, and he goes, yeah, give her my number.
She gives her to the mother. They meet at the
comedy store, they go back to her place, they have sex.

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They've never talked again, and I was like, boom man,
slam dunk. I got great ones. I said next to
Rick Flair one time, and we both drank identically we
both ordered drinks for our wives and ourselves and then
drank our our wives drinks and then drank our drinks
and I was like, ooh, Rick Flair and I drink alike.
I had a girl walk me into my room. And
so the other night she was like, hey, when it

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come to your room. I was like, and I got
her to the door and I said, listen. I was
really drunk. I go listen. It's very sweet of you,
but I'm I'm married and I'm happily married and I
don't cheat on my wife. And she had this weird
look on her face. And I woke up. The next
time I called my wife, I told her, I go,
I just I'm such a great guy. And then there
was a note under my door and it was like, bert,
I wasn't trying to have sex with you. You were too drunk.

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You couldn't remember what room you were in, and you
didn't have a key. I just wanted to make sure
you got home safe. I was like, oh, I shut
down a good Samaritan.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
How does your wife react to stories like that?

Speaker 1 (05:41):
I've been doing that our whole marriage. Our marriage is
based on fun and laughter. I mean, for real, it
is probably the funnest. It's by far, it's the funnest
relationship I have in my life. We joke NonStop. We're
in a couple's therapy right now, and as we walk out,
I decide who won or who lost. Like it's just
a blast. And I've been doing that ever since, ever

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since we were a young married couple. I'd text her,
I go, just do you know I'm getting jocked, And
then I sat a picture in the end it's like
she's got a lazy eye and I'm like, oh man, yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
And she gives it back to you too, Oh.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, oh yeah. Her and my daughters are just bullies,
like bullies, like they've never they called they call me
baby Walrus. They've they've never They bust my balls harder
than anyone I've ever met other than my two sisters.
The women in my life run my life.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Isn't that the best? Like my wife, we just did
this video and it was planned by my team, but
we did this video where my wife rated my looks
on the red carpet. For the last seven years or
however long, it's been great, And oh dude, I've got
some embarrassing red carpet looks. And my wife does not
hold back in this video. She just goes for it.
And she's got so much banter and she's got so

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much sass, and it's like all the comments are like
she's a savage. I'm like, yeah, you think she looks
cute and all this stuff that this woman can like
go in and it's and I can, I mean, I can,
I can attest to the fact that those are terrible looks.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Oh, Baby Walrus started our chat thread Baby Walris, and
it was pictures where they thought I was cute, and
it's like the worst pictures ever. And it's like one
of them is me on a surfboard covered in in
like in sunscreen, and I just am sitting crisscross apple
sauce on a on a surfboard and I look fat
and I got a hoodie on. It's so bad. But

(07:25):
it's them sending pictures where they think I look cute
but I look like an idiot.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, and so are they're paying you they think you
look cute.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
I mean, the picture on Baby Walris is horrible.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Let's see, we're gonna have to get this with the
ideot as well as everyone on you.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
It's the one of me on the surfboard. Oh yeah, yeah,
and they're all just pictures of me looking horrible.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Oh god, there was We'll get back to the family
in a second. But I wanted to you. Were you
always the class clown? Was this always natural for you?
Were you the guy who could make everyone laugh and
get attention? Was that who you were?

Speaker 1 (07:55):
No? I was like, dare I say, like painfully serious?
Like I mean, I always was funny, but I didn't know.
I thought what I was doing was cool, and when
from the outside looking in, it was and it was funny,
So I didn't realize that I was being funny. I
think a lot of comics have this, Like I told you,

(08:16):
just told the story in therapy the other day. When
I was in first grade, I played second base. I'm
really into baseball. I was really into baseball growing up.
I played second base. Flyball to me, Basis loaded flyball
to me. I catch it, and then I spike it,
and I take my shirt off and I start dancing.
Now my dad was livid. He was like, what is
wrong with you? And but everyone laughed, and I thought

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what I was doing was cool and that people were
be like, yeah, but they just see this six year
old seven year old dancing shirtless in second base. And
so my whole life, I think I was always trying
to be serious. I dressed up his kiss for the
talent show. I'm dead serious, like you're gonna watch me
like kill it out here. And I remember being in

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the thing. I had a guitar, car didn't have strings.
I was going to air guitar and the kid looks
at me and he goes. The kid next to me
had a violin and he goes, you play the guitar
and I said no. He goes, what are you gonna do?
I said, just rock out. He was like, You're just
gonna go up there and dance, and I was like
And when he said it, I was like, this sounds silly. Yeah,
And then I just went out and just air guitared
and danced in my mom's tights, no shirt, her belts

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around my chest, white face paint, but that me and
Brian Callahan put on. So yeah, I think, and I
think I was that way all the way through high school.
I don't think I was very funny in high school,
although I was. I learned how to tell a story
in high school. It wasn't until I gave up sports
in college that people started saying, I was funny.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
What made you learn how to tell a story? In
high school?

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Going to an all boys Catholic high school, it was
the best. It was the best, man, I'm saying, the best.
Your currency was could you hold a table? Wasn't chicks,
wasn't did you look good? Could you hold a table?
And so for lunch you'd have a table your boys
twelve and I would practice my story. Coming from religion

(10:03):
to the table. I'd be like, all right, so we
did a beer run right, and I'm driving, came in,
comes in, he dives in, a dog, grabs his leg.
I take off. That's when I'm practicing the story. And
then I get there and they'd be like, hey, tell
us about the fight. And I'd be like, okay, got
a pivot. Here we go. And I remember the first
time I set a line that like worked well, I said, dude,

(10:26):
he got knocked out. I mean this punch started in
Miami and ended in Washington State, and they were like, oh,
like it was just it was like storytelling was our thing.
And if you could tell a good story, like beach week,
you came up to the room. Everyone wanted to know
if you hooked up with that check and you had
to have a story about it.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
I remember one guy came up, older kid and he
was like, yeah, I didn't have a condumn, so he
used a plastic bag and we're like, what, like just
wild stories. And then when I got to Florida State,
that's when I started realizing I was funny.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Old boys school too. But what I realized was that
a lot of the guys had imaginary girlfriends, so a
lot of the stories were just.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Made out Jesus.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
And when you'd figure out that Felicity wasn't real because
I was an American girl's name off a TV show
and not a girl's name in England, like it never
there's no one I've ever met in England called Felicity.
And then one of our guys was danying a girl
called Felicity, like he's been watching too much American pie.
Like that's like, dude, no feeling. We'd get.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Girls were a perfect example. I was so painfully serious
about losing my virginity. I mean, I was dialed in.
It was my only focus. And then when I did,
it was such a tragedy that that story became I
remember sitting down and they're like, bro, tell the story.

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And all of a sudden there's like three deep and
the story I've told it on may not this may
not be the right setting for it, but I'll just
say it was fast and I did it wrong. And
I mean and there were like dudes standing three people
deep to hear the story. And then you know, we
had two lunches. So the next people come in that
was Ty Rodriguez, like tell it again, and I mean

(12:05):
everything was like a tragedy, like a comedy of tragedies
for me.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
And you've never reconnected back with this peasants.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
The woman yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, I know her
very well. That's Tampa though I know her, I know
her brother, her dad just recently passed. Her dad was
a legend. Her dad was a legend. I got to
say this, and you know, she cheated on me prompt
with my best friend and we had to go spend
the night at her house. Now I'm like, I'm a
really sensitive guy, and I was so humiliated that instead

(12:33):
of going back into the house where they dropped us off,
I went out into her car and I said, I'm
just gonna sit in her car this is. We didn't
have a car to get home. I didn't have anybody
to get home. So I sat in her car. I said,
you know what, screw it. I'm I'm gonna sleep out
in this car. And I laid in the backseat of
her car and her dad just comes out knocks on
the window. He's like boxers or whatever, and he's like, buddy,

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this isn't how it's done. I was like what. He goes,
I know you're hurting right now. Come in the house.
Trust me. I'll make it comfortable. I said, I they
know I've been out here, and he goes, oh, we
all know you've been out here. He goes, just walk
in the house and sleep inside tonight. I'm gonna give
you five minutes. So we went in. I waited five
minutes and I walked in the house and very slick.

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Her dad was like, it was like, Bert, well, can
I get you to drink? Would you like a beer?
And I'm seventeen and I was like, oh, I would
love a beer. And he's like, great, come on, we'll
go sit outside, and just made it very smooth. But
I still know her.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Wow, that's ever. Yeah, that's ever. I remember breaking up
with the girl, and I was just upset that her
father used to have Manchester United season tickets and he
still always take me along. I remember when I broke
up with it, it was like harder breaking up with
her dad than it was with her because we were
like having this bromance moment of like supporting the same team.
And it's just when I think back to times like that,
think about how like those moments felt so big then

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and now when you look back you laugh at them, right,
Like it's at that moment that humiliation. Was that like
the biggest humiliation you'd had at that point in your life.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, And I've had bigger, I've
had bigger, but yeah, that was like that was tough
because I thought I was cool, you know. And I
think that's a little bit where my comedy is. I
always come out the fool a little bit, you know.
I'm always getting myself into something bigger than me, and
I always think I'm doing the cool thing or the
smart thing, and I always screw it up.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
I read that your dad was an interesting figure for
you growing up, and he had like a certain take
on life of like men don't cry, boys don't cry.
They don't show emotions. Yeah, is that true?

Speaker 1 (14:31):
That?

Speaker 2 (14:32):
What's that like? Because I think we hear about it
now and it sounds like almost like a character because
of where society's kind of moved into now. It's like,
but that was very real.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Oh, very real. My dad. My dad's a great dad.
I love my dad. But he just was like, hey,
you don't cry. I was eleven years old. I was
playing catcher and I got hit in the mouth of
the baseball bat and I lost like twenty sixteeth and
my dad came over and he's like, Okay, don't worry.
It was my birthday, by the way, and I was like,
he's like, don't worry, You're okay. Mom's gonna take you

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to the dentist. I need you to go to shortstop.
I was like what. He goes, You're not dying, and
if I sub you out of the game, we forfeit
the game. So finish out the ending a shortstop. And
I remember being like, what, I've been injured, and he goes, yeah,
go finish shortstop and they hit a ground ball to
me at shortstop. I caught it through it at first.
My dad goes, I'm really proud of you go to

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the dentist. But my dad just he just didn't. It
was not he didn't hit us, you know, but like
he just was, like I remember his when I got
into comedy, he told me really clearly, buddy, eat shit
cash checks. That's how the world works. Eat shit cash checks.
His dad was in World War Two. He stormed like

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Omaha Beach or Normandy, and his dad never talked about
the war, sat in the garage, watched Mets games, listen
to Met games, and drank beer. And so my my
dad lost his dad at thirteen. So I think my
dad was just doing the best he could. But yeah,
he told me. I mean, I mean, I remember, I
remember it like an older I remember getting anxiety attacks.

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This is how flat my dad was. One day, I'm
laying in bed. It's like after after David Letterman, and
I'm laying in bed. I had to be ten years old,
and all of a sudden, I have this very crisp
realization that death is real. And I went, hold on,
I go, one day, you're gonna tell me my dad's
gonna die. And I went, oh my god. I started

(16:26):
having a real panic attack. And I went into his
room and I woke him up. My dad doesn't wake easily.
He's like, if you wake my dad, he's like cold on,
you know. And so I scared me. I woke him
up and I was like, Dad, are you going to die?
And he goes what I said, are you're going to die?
And he goes, yeah, you are too, go back to bed.
And then I went, wait, I'm gonna die. I didn't

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think I got it. I knew you would die, but
not me. And that was my dad. I had kids
with panic disorder, and I was so not my dad
with them. I was so like, yo, I got you,
You're gonna be fine, Like but yeah, my dad just
he was just trying to do the best he could.
Uh stuck into a house that he couldn't really afford

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to make an ends meet. He's got three kids, didn't
expect the third one. He's a lawyer. I don't think
he ever wanted to be a lawyer. I mean i'd
say that, I don't know what he'd say, but I
wouldn't say he loves his job, but it's his job
and he does it. But that was his do not cry,
do not cry. And when now I got older and
we got into a something and he saw me, like,

(17:31):
well up, He'd be like, oh, you better enough cry
and I'd be like, cry, now you might explain why
I cried so much as adult.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Now he just held you back.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
I tried my whole life. And then I remember the
first time seeing him cry. It was when I graduated
Florida State and they didn't let me graduate. Two teachers
failed me because I was written up in Rolling Stone
magazine and they were they thought I embarrassed the school,
so they failed me. And I had to drive up
to Tallahassee and they told me the ministry just go
talk to the teachers. And I went to drive up
to Tallahassee and my dad walked me out to the car.

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Was like six in the morning and I was getting
in the car to drive Tallahassee and he started crying.
And I'd never seen him cry, and I was like,
what is this? And he was just and he's like
when someone shook your kid Like I was like, I
got I drove in silence, no music, just in the dark.
Just what did I just witness?

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Did you ever talk to him about that?

Speaker 1 (18:27):
No?

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Still too this day.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Nah. My dad's an interesting guy. He's changed a lot
the older he's gotten, he's way more sensitive than he
was when I was a kid. Joey Diaz gave him
marijuana one time on accident. He gave him like a
handful of marijuana popcorn. Is the first time my dad
had a brad in marijuana. Eastern morning, kids are searching
for eggs. My daddy's a handful of popcorn. I go, buddy,

(18:51):
that's weed. And he goes, what, there's popcorn. I go, no,
that there's weed in the popcorn. He goes, how do
they put weed in the popcorn? I go, Dad, it's
called an edible and you just ate a lot of it.
And so he goes, well, what do I do? And
I said, I grabbed a handful, and I said, I'll
go with you. We're gonna both eat weed, and we
both ate weed. We did a podcast that day and
then everyone leaves and it's me and my dad high
as crap, drinking whiskey at like five in the afternoon,

(19:14):
smoking a cigar, really high, and I leaned over to him,
I go, why don't you like me? Oh, I'm gonna
get emotional, and he just goes, He's like, I love
you. You just make me uncomfortable. He was like, I love
you and I'm afraid you're gonna die. And so I
don't know what that does, but I'm afraid you're gonna die.

(19:36):
I'm not gonna die. And he goes, you don't know that.
He goes, I lost my dad when I was young.
I'm terrified to lose you. And I don't understand you.
I don't understand your lifestyle. And I said, well, how
can we fix this? And he goes, I want to
get you a cardiologist and I said okay, and he goes,
you do that. I go, I want you to feel
more comfortable with me. And he was like, I can
get you a cardiologist. I can do all the tests.
I can pick all the tests they do. And I

(19:57):
said yeah, and he goes, okay, a cardiologist Monday morning
for me, doctor Dan. And they did the CT scan,
they did the stress test, they did all the tests
my dad wanted, and everything came back clean. And my
dad's like, now you'll go to him every six months
and I said yeah. And I want to say, from
that day on, our relationship has gotten so much smoother.

(20:19):
I mean, I've forgiven him for stuff that he's did
and we're just a lot, a lot closer now.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
It's incredible, isn't it. Like my parent's trying to hold
us back from seeing their pain, but actually seeing their
pain is the only thing that kind of penetrates to
make you go, oh, wait, they're a human too.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Oh. I found out my dad was human when I
was twenty one years old. And I remember finding that
out and I didn't understand it. My parents split up,
and I was so mad at my dad. I didn't
even want to talk to him. I did. I just
I always wanted nothing to do with him. And my
uncle Jerry called me and he goes, uh, when was
the last time we talked to your dad? And I said,

(20:57):
it's been a while, and he goes, well, that shit's over.
He goes, you call him today, he's your dad. No, no, Jerry,
I'm I'm mad at him, and he goes, yeah, you
just found out your dad's a human. Okay, your dad's
a human. He's a regular man, he's not some superhero.
So you call him and look, you don't have to
say I love you. Just call him, see how he's doing,
and just touch base. I didn't, and and and then

(21:18):
that was a period you know that was a growing
period of that. But uh, yeah, he's a he's a
pretty he's a pretty great dude. I'll just say this.
You know a lot of people will be at his funeral.
That's like the testament for like a great man. It'll
be yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, he means so much to you.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Oh yeah, I think everyone's dad does, don't they. I mean,
for all our differences, and we have a ton a
ton if you met me and met him, you would
not know we were related. He's pretty quiet, does not
want to get on stage, and sincerely doesn't want you
to get on stage. I mean, he just saw me

(22:06):
do stand up for the first time. No at the Emily.
Yeah no, after all these years, all these years, I
did the Emily, which is the Arena and Tampa, and
I said, Yo, if you're gonna you should come and
see me here. I understand like comedy clubs, but you
should come to the Arena. It's a big deal. Dad.
And he got there and I don't think he realized
what was happening for real, Like he knew I was

(22:27):
doing a show there, but he called me and he goes,
Wade Boggs is here. Wade Bogs like our hero playing
baseball growing up. I said, yeah, I know. I put
him in your box and he goes, no, budd, he's here.
Do you think he knows you? And I said, daddy's
at my show. He goes, Mine, I just saw Mike
Austott football player. I go, yeah, He goes, do these
people know you? I said, Dad, I'm the reason they're here.

(22:47):
And then he came backstage and Derek Brooks, who's a
legend played at Florida State, played it at at the Box,
is backstage talking to my dad, and my dad's staring
at Derek Brooks going, and he goes, and Derek goes,
can you believe how far birds come? He's doing the
amily and I he goes, I was his first show

(23:07):
at Pop Belly's. And Derek Brooks leaves. My dad goes, Buddy,
Derek Brooks knows who you are. I was like, yeah,
I know, Dad, we just spent time with him. He
knows who you are too now. But yeah, my dad
just he just that was the first time he told
me to tell me to stand up.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
What did he say?

Speaker 1 (23:24):
I got to be honest with you. I think it
makes him uncomfortable, like I think he kind of half
looks and half like, I don't think he I don't
think he laughs a lot at it. I don't know.
I mean he says, he goes, you're good, but I
make him uncomfortable. I had a great Shack joke that
Shack wanted me to put in a special. It's dare
I say, borderline racist, But Shack and I talked. It

(23:45):
made us laugh, and Shack's like, you got to put
that in a special. And my dad's like, that does
not go in the special. And I was like, dad,
Shack says, it's okay, and he goes, I don't give
a shit. I am not comfortable with that joke, so
I took it out. Shack's like, you took it out
because your dad? Yeah, what I got a better shock
joke now?

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Okay, oh yeah, what's the best Jack Joe?

Speaker 1 (24:08):
I can't do it is I don't think your audience
wants to hear it. Go see me on the psion
A Party World Tour in September. There we go, that's
pretty aggressive. Oh all right, that's fun.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
That's fine. People going to look forward to seeing that.
But when you know what I'm hearing about your relationship
with your dad, I think it's so interesting where we
just talked about that unlock of you figure out your
parents are human, and you also get context of their humanity,
Like you were saying, his dad died when he was
thirteen years old, and he saw that and then he
was scared of losing you. Like I remember, my dad
took me to his the home he grew up in

(24:41):
in India, and his home was the size of this room.
His home. So the kitchen's in a corner, there's by
the way, there's five kids that grew up in this house.
There's a bed over here. We get there. Outside there's bats,
cockroaches and rats everywhere because he grew up in like
slum like area. Disgusting. I'm nine years old when I

(25:03):
first go, and then they shared a toilet with like
twenty thirty families. And I remember going there at nine
years old, and my whole perspective of my dad completely
changed because all of a sudden, I had like a
reference point. Now, my life wasn't luxury in London by
any means, but it wasn't that. And when you see
like bats and rats and cockroaches at nine years old,

(25:26):
which like freak you out and you think that's how
your dad just walked to the toilet, walked back to
his house. He was the youngest of five kids, and
all of a sudden, you just get like a completely
different perspective on the man you're looking at. And it
sounds like you had that moment as well. And I
guess my question is it sounds like it's not something
you had to reconcile through a conversation, Like it's not

(25:48):
like you've sat there and therapized it out or fixed it.
But there's a resolution that's almost happened between both of
you where he can come and watch you on stage
even when he hasn't for all these years. Like would
you say there's been healing and you said this forgiveness
from your side, Like what does that look like when
there isn't a conversation, Because I think today we've got

(26:09):
so much about you got to have the conversation.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah. No, you know, I think for my dad a
lot of it was he always had the answer. You know.
My dad's the kind of guy that when I was
a kid, the Iraq War started and I came home
and I was like, I was against war because I
knew that's what hippies were about, and I wanted to
be a hippie, and so I thought, that's what the
right answer. I'm against war. And my Dad's like, no,
you're an idiot. Why don't you go to your room

(26:33):
until you realize what an idiot you are, and then
when you come down, I'll explain to you why you're
an idiot. So I went to my room and I
was like, I don't know why I'm an idiot? Like
what did I and everyone should be against war. My
dad came downstairs. I go, I don't know why I'm
an idiot, and he goes, okay, there's a lot of
interesting things about this war. Number one is the first
televised war we've ever seen. We're watching them go to
war and it starts like a football game, and me

(26:55):
and you have the opportunity to watch this. Number two,
this man saw him saying is a monster who was
own people and we are going in to get rid
of him. You do not know any of the politics,
so shut your mouth and sit down and watch the war.
And my dad was like that with everything. If you
ever said an idea, if I to this day, if
I say, if I say something anything political, my dad

(27:18):
takes the opposite side and will tell me so in
a weird way. It never gave me a foot to
stand on politically. So why I don't talk about politics
on stage Because whatever I would say, my dad would
tell me I was wrong. He wanted to show me.
I think he was protecting me from looking foolish, or
protecting me from being the guy at a party that
was a no at all. And you know, my dad
kind of flew under the radar always. And I think

(27:40):
when I started getting successful, there was a part of
my dad where he no longer had an answer for me.
He no longer had the solution. He couldn't he couldn't
put me in the right direction. When they fly they're older,
I send them to a special interest at the airport.
It's a little expensive, but it's easier for them. My
dad had to broken hip and got knee problems. My

(28:02):
mom's my mom's a piece, will work. My mom's like
me okay and so, and he gets really up. He's like, buddy,
I don't need this. I can't. You can't afford this.
And I go, I definitely can afford it, and he's like, no,
you don't know. So one day I had to send
to him like my bank statement and be like I
can afford to put you through there, And he was like,
what the you like? He just I think and that

(28:26):
it's not like the you know, the younger lion taking
over the bigger lion, but like like me, like me
not letting him pay for meals. That makes him uncomfortable.
Like that's who he's been. He's been the leader of
our family. And I'm not saying he's not still our leader.
He is, by every stretch of the means he is. However,
I think not having all the answers for me and
not being able to tell me exactly what to do

(28:47):
and be confident in his decision made him very uncomfortable.
I think, I don't know, but.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
You never It didn't seem like you were searching for
his approval at anybody.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Oh oh my god, that's all I've been doing my
whole life, my whole If he didn't like my long hair,
got a flat top, came into his office and he
was like, you look like an idiot. I was like, god,
dang it, Like all I've ever wanted is that man's approval.
That's it. That's it, entirely, without a doubt, I just
like when he says, and he says very often, how
proud he is of me. It doesn't it doesn't miss me.

(29:18):
It hits me in the chest and it makes me
feel great. And the fact that he'll call up and
he'll be like, Buddy, we went to the macaroni girl.
You know I I say my last name and they go,
are you related to Burt Christ or they knew who
you were? Buddy. I got a table right away. They
gave me. You know, they do the bacon there, you know,
the big bacon. My dad's like that, he loves it.
And I think he kind of loves my whatever celebrity

(29:42):
I have, because it trickles to him. And now like
when he goes to like when he goes like he
went to my Special, Him and my mom sat backstage.
I didn't go in the They sat on chairs on
side stage. And he's deaf and like not death, but
he's losing his hearing. So I'm doing the show and
I hear him say. What did he say? I'm like Jesus,
Dad said. He said he saw her suck as dick

(30:04):
what she lost Wade Albert, He saw her give her
a Leanne gave him a blow job, and I'm like, well,
you two shut up, but yeah, they yeah, I'm constantly
seeking his approval. I think it probably could be said
for my career. I think the reason I'm into comedy
is I'm searching for approval. I want people to like

(30:26):
me I do. I want people to have a good time,
and I want people to go, you were fun. I
don't need to be the best comic, but I want
the people that see me to really have had a
great time.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
And like me, when was the first time you felt
like you got his approval?

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Will Smith? Yeah? Will Smith, Well, I got a deal
and like twenty six years old, I've been doing stand up.
On my twenty sixth birthday, I was in New York
and I was just partying. I wasn't doing stand up.
I've been there for a couple months and I got
hammered the night before and it was my birthday. And
my phone rang at like eight o'clock in the morning,
nine o'clock in the morning, and I saw it was
my dad call her. I d and I said, you know,

(31:00):
I answer it, let him say happy birthday, and I
go back to sleep. I answer it and he says,
you are a tremendous piece of shit. And I'm like,
I go dad, and he goes, yeah, yeah, it's your dad.
And he goes, you are worthless. You have no humility.
You're doing nothing. He goes, I just perjured myself in
court because of you. The judge said, al, how's your

(31:22):
son doing? And I said great, that is a lie.
You are not doing great and you never will do great.
I have failed you as a father. I gave you
no humility. I taught you no life lessons. You never
had to work for anything. Things came easy to you.
And I'm telling you. And I said to him, I
go it's my birthday. And he goes, I know what
day it is. He goes, I gave birth to you.
We were there when you got born. And he goes,

(31:44):
I'm telling you. And I was like Dad, I go, well, okay,
so what do I do with this? He goes nothing.
He goes, I'll foot the bill, be a party boy.
And I was like, well, I want to. I want to.
I don't want you to feel this way about me.
And he goes, no, you should not want to feel
this way about yourself. And I said to him, and
what can I do? He said, well, if you're serious
about comedy, then you'll go to that club tonight and

(32:04):
you'll do whatever you can to get on stage. You'll
go to that man and you'll say, my name is
Burt Kreisler. I would like to be a stand up.
I'll clean up, I'll mop up, I'll i'll flip burgers,
I'll stand out. I'll do whatever you need. But I
need an opportunity. And I said, I remember saying to him,
I go, I can't do it today tonight because I
have a party planned. He was silent, and he just goes,
you have a party. He goes, you don't deserve a party.

(32:26):
What are you throwing a party for? You're a failure.
You go to that club tonight, you take yourself to dinner.
I want you to write down some goals, and then
you after that dinner, you go to that club and
you tell whoever you need to you'll do whatever you can,
and you'll do it for free. And I said that
that's not how it works. I remember him very clearly saying, Hey,
first time young black kid in Harlem, that's how it
works for him. Do you know why? Because he has

(32:46):
humilion and he knows how to get what he wants.
That's how it works for him. Doesn't work for you
because you're white and you feel like everything should be
given to you. And I went okay, so I said,
all right, I'll do it. So I didn't. I took
myself to a restaurant on seventh and Leaker, and then
I wrote down twenty six goals that I had planned
for that year. So I was starting twenty six. I
went to the Boston comedy club. I met a god

(33:06):
named Louis Shaeffer and I told him exactly what my
dad said. My name is Burt. I want to do this.
Any advice, anything you do, get me on stage. And
Louis Shaffer said you should move back to Tampa, and
I went what. He goes, You're not going to be
a comedian in New York. You don't have what it takes.
And I went home almost like victorious. I was like, so, Dad,
this is how it works. I told you. I was right.
I called him the next morning. He goes, how did

(33:26):
it go? I said, not good. This is exactly what
he said, and he goes, perfect, this is what I
want you to do. You go back tonight and you
say the same sentence as if he d never said
it to you. And I said okay. So I said, well,
what do I do if he says the same thing?
And he goes, You're going to do that every single
night until there's a point where you're going to break him.
And he's going to go, fine, I'll give you a job.
So I went back that night and I went, Hey, Louis,

(33:47):
my name is Burt Kreischer. I want to be a
stand up comedian. I'm from Florida. He goes, didn't I
tell you to move back to Florida. I go, listen,
here's the deal. My dad called me a piece of
shit yesterday. I feel like a piece of shit. I
need an opportunity. I go, I'm going to be doing
this every night for the next year as long as
you keep saying this. And he went, fine, if you
can bring in twenty people, I'll put you on at
the end of the night. Nice And I was like,

(34:08):
for real and he goes, yeah, you can go on
after it right before Godfrey, and I was like okay,
and man, I brought in twenty five people. Someone got heckled.
Karen Bergeren got heckled by four Puerto Rican guys. I
brought in because one was going to jail the next day,
and I was like, I said I and Louis Shafer
comes out and he's like, where's a comic and I
was like, no one's here, and he's like, you're on,

(34:29):
Let's go put me on stage. And frat boy Burt
came out and I lit these four Puerto Rican guys
up so hard, and because I knew that guy was
going to jail, and I mean, I was like, hey, man,
have fun tomorrow. Don't drop the soap. The place is
going nuts, and I was like, I was like, can
I give you some advice about jail. I was like,
suck it before you and I mean they it was
so great. They walked out of the room. The place

(34:50):
went nuts, and I was like, and I got a job.
Louis Shaefer's like, you can do this every night. Six
months later, Will Smith discovered me. Will Smith discovered me,
and my dad was floored. He was fed. We watched
the I Sprints on Monday night. Every Monday night. It
was a six figure development deal, and I remember that
was the first time my dad didn't have an answer
and I said, uh, I said, what do I do

(35:11):
with this money? He goes, I don't know. I've never
gotten a paycheck like that. Here's buddy. I. I remember
him stuttering like, I can't tell you. I don't know.
He goes, let me hook you up with Bob Kazari
and I still remember the guy's name over at Merrill
Lynch and we'll figure it out. And that was when
my dad was like, he's like, you met Will Smith.

(35:32):
Will Smith taught me how to pitch movies and pitch
TV shows, and he was like a blessing in my life.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, that's beautiful. I didn't realize we had Will in
commedy either.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Will. I mean, I love Will.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, one of my favorite He's one of my family.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
He is. He is the sweetest guy in the world.
He was so good to me. He gave me great advice.
We're about to pitch ABC. Jamie Tarz's got rest her soul,
and I drove over from the valley with him and
Jay j J L and Uh James J and I
and I had to piss and Will came in and
he goes, I'll go to the bathroom with you. So

(36:07):
he sat at the stall right next to me at ABC,
and all any guy knows that The sound of a
man's urine hitting a toilet sometimes indicates how big their
their their dick is. And he had a fire hose.
I mean it was like aw and I got I
couldn't peet, I got gunshi And Will says to me,
can I tell you everything you need to know about Hollywood?

(36:28):
But I'm so in my head going pee pee pee.
I didn't hear a word. I didn't hear one word.
And then he goes and then he stops peeing. I realized,
if I can't be next to Will Smith, I can't
sell it show next to Will Smith. I start peeing
and all I hear him say is be yourself. That's it.
That's the only thing I heard. And then I went
into the room and uh, Will was like Burt used
to party hard or something. I was like, yeah, you

(36:49):
guys ever try to knock yourself out And they're like huh.
And we used to do that in college, and you
had to do it on the side of a like
put your head against something because if you just hit
your head, it's not gonna happen. And I knocked myself
just like and we sold a sickcom that day.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah, he's the best.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yeah, he's the best, dude. It's like, as I'm listening
to you, I'm just like, there's it's so interesting because
I feel like that moment that you told me about
baseball with you know, you and your dad and your
dad telling you, like on your birthday, just go play
and then we sort it out later. What was the
power of that? Like, what was the good thing about that?

(37:26):
And then what was the hard thing about that? Like
there was good obviously that came from it. This work
epic disability to turn off, the ability to push through pain,
but there must have been some pain that stayed which
search for that approval. But what was the good and
the bad? Because it sounds like you've been able to
process both.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
You know, he had a mentality shitting cash checks. And
when I was at travel Channel at the very tail end,
I was just hoping to get renewed, and I knew
they were changing presidents and I had lasted like three
or four presidents. But every time you went to a
new president, and it was money and I needed money,
had a family. I was ignoring stand up, I was
ignoring the podcast, all the stuff that I do now.
I was ignoring all of it. And I was at

(38:03):
the beach with my dad. We're having a cigar and
a glass of wine, and he goes, so, what's the deal,
what's our plan? I was, I think I was forty
two years old, forty three years old, looking for my
dad's approval and this is so my dad. I go,
you know, buddy, each shit cash checks thinking, he go,
that's my guy, and my dad started crying. He goes, oh,
I think I hit you up. He goes, each shit

(38:24):
cash checks means is for guys like me with no talent,
guys like you need to go after your talent.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
And he was crying. And you know, Rogan had just
said that to me too. He had just had that
conversation with me. And my Dad's like, if you don't
go for it, now you're going to regret it. He's like,
do it because I had this long standing offer from
Showtime Gary Garfinkel, God rest his soul to do a special,
and I kept pushing it to do Travel Channel stuff,
and he goes, buddy, you should do it. You should

(38:52):
hey follow your dreams. So I did this Showtime special.
No one watched it because I took my shirt off.
He's like I remember I'm remember them saying, you know,
if you take your short off of giving the reason
to change channel. But what's fascinating is the thing that
gets them to change the channel. Back in the day
where you were Caesar and you'd be like, no, no,
is the exact opposite for the internet. You see a

(39:12):
guy with no shirt on in the Internet, You're like,
what's this? And you click it? And I posted the
machine story and it went viral and it was I
remember my but my dad gave me this like insane
thing of even if you're sick, you show up, even
if you're even if you're hurt, you show up. I
think it's my punitive way that I work out is
that if I'm hungover, I work out extra hard. I

(39:34):
was hungover. I flew all, drank all day yesterday in
New York, flew here last night. This morning, I got
up at eight, got in the sawa for thirty minutes,
got in the gym. We did abs. Who wants they
do abs? Ran lifted weights and sweated out. But that's
my dad's mentality is like, you get up, you do
your work, no matter what. That was the lesson I

(39:55):
mean I and my takeaway from being eleven and getting
hurt when you finish in and you don't let anyone down,
you don't you get you finish the game, you know.
I had a showcase for ICM one time. This is
just my dad's mentality, and there was a guy that
went opened it and then the next guy went on
was a guy named Earthquake. Do you know earthquake? Unfollowable,

(40:19):
black dude who destroys, destroys. His name's Earthquake, I mean
just and he's Earthquake because he leaves you the room
in an earthquake. And I watched all my friends, I
won't say their names, were all all my white friend
comedians panic. No one wanted to follow Earthquake. And they
just came to me. They're like, you want to go

(40:39):
up after earthquake? And I just my dad would be like, yeah,
that's your job, do your job. And I went up
after earthquake and he had a joke. His last joke
was about his name Earthquake. I forget the joke, but
I knew My first joke was about my name Bert.
So the joke was was my name is Burt. I
know what you're thinking, hot sexy named you do porn. No,
I said, BUR's the last name I want to hear
during just someone check on top of you in the

(41:01):
dark corn ah boot and then I go, sh call
me earthquake and the place exploded. But you know, here's
the thing, and this is my dad's my dad's Brent
mentality is if you don't get on stage, if you
don't show up to work, all the stuff that could
possibly make your life great just disappears. And that's been

(41:22):
my mentality this whole career is you show up, no
matter what. You show up. You got an audition, you
show up, you get they want to meet you in
a general meeting. You still don't think it's right for you.
You show up. And that's definitely the way I've taken
the road. Dude, Let's do the road. Make sun makes
hey while the sun shines. Get out there and grind.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Yeah. Yeah, And that's what it takes. I mean, I
feel like comedy is like there's a new comedian every
month that's taken off. You've had like a long standing career.
It's hard to do that. To keep reinventing yourself, keep
coming back special off to special, success, off to success,
It's hard to do that.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Yeah, it feels like it came from that idea. I
mean a lot of my friends like it. Just like
the pandemic hit and my brain was like, that doesn't
mean we can't do stand up and then like no,
the country is shut down, and I went, I'll figure
it out. And I so I came up with a
type of touring outdoor comedy festivals where I took drive

(42:15):
a movie theaters and I plugged into their system. We
showed it up on the big screen. We shot it
with four cameras. All the feeds went into the car
so everyone could say socially distant. And I did. I
think I did thirty cities. I think maybe did thirty cities,
sixty shows and shows I did. I tore the all
through the pandemic. That's just the way my brain works.
It's like, just because you say no, that doesn't mean look,
you gotta do it. You gotta work. Yeah, don't just

(42:37):
take the foot off the gas.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
What I love about the earthquake story too, it's like
what your dad said, if you didn't put yourself under
that pressure, you wouldn't have found that great new take.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
If you're a dad right now, when you're listening. This
is the only takeaway you need. My dad, whether it's
true or not, always told me you love pressure, buddy.
When all the chips are on the table, you perform
your best. I don't know what it is about you,
but you love the pressure. You just love it. And
I'll tell you my whole baseball career. If we were down, man,

(43:09):
all first and second were down by two runs, that's
when I performed. When we faced the fastest picture we
ever faced. That's the guy I hit the best off of.
And I'll tell you is in stand up I've always
done best when the most pressure is on me. I
need to do secret time. First show, I bomb. I'm
only doing two shows. I bomb. I bomb. I hadn't
bombed with this hour ever, and I bombed. The crowd

(43:31):
had to wait in the rain, we had a power shortage.
It just it was horrible and I'm nervous. I got
one more show. This is my first Netflix special. I
got one more show. And I'm sitting in the green
room and Leanne just echoes my dash. He goes, well,
you know you love pressure. This is when he's going
to form the best sit back everybody, and man, that
show I mean, best stand up show I've ever had

(43:53):
in my entire career was that one show that was murderous.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Well, people say, with comedians, obviously, there's such a defense
mechanism with humor and comedy to mask pain and challenges
and all that kind of stuff. I wonder, and you've
said before as well, like I usually you know laugh
through pain. It's like, what's the pain that you couldn't
laugh through?

Speaker 1 (44:14):
I hesitate to even say this, but I've been very lucky.
I've been very lucky. I haven't had a lot of
tragedy in my life, and I can laugh at just
about anything. I laughed at my grandmother's funeral. I laughed
twice at my grandmother's funeral.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Tell us.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
I started crying. My dad ADU like, don't cry in
front of your kids. And I started crying. And this
is before we put Priscilla down. I started crying. He goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, Hey,
stand up. It's him and my uncle Jerry, and my
dad goes Buddy pulled together and I was like, I'm upset,
and he goes, why, I go because your mom is
in a box up there, and he's like, yeah, she
had a great life. You celebrate her life. You don't cry.

(44:52):
Can't let your girls see you cry. Then they're going
to be freaked out. I was like, Dad, it's just
it's just hard looking at her. And he goes, no, no, no, no,
you're fine. And I go, well, she they have her.
She's not smiling, and he goes, are you an idiot?
He goes, do you want her smiling in that box?
Do you have any idea? Creep you? That is it?
And I started laughing and then he goes, there you go.
All right, you're out of it. Good, let's go. So

(45:14):
then at the end of that funeral, everyone leaves. My
dad and my uncle Jerry. Oh, I mean this makes
they go, hey, come on, I said, what they go,
let's go, let's go say good bye to grandma. And
this was them saying, it's oh, create get a cry.
Oh my god, I've never seen two uglier cries in
my life. These men let go of years of trauma.

(45:37):
I'll tell you, I'll tell you right before she died,
this is the hardest I've ever watched. These two men laugh.
We go to the hospital. My grandmother's a congenitive heart
failure or whatever. So we go to the hospital. Grandma's
in the bed. Uncle Jerry and my dad are in
the corner and they're hiding them their faces because they're crying.
They're hiding their faces behind the curtains, okay, and they're

(45:58):
really emotional, and I'm not, for whatever reason, I'm not
in that moment. And I go, hey, Grandma, how you doing?
And she goes, ugh, my back hurts. That's that's heart
failures when your back hurts. And I go, well, do
you want me to rub your back? And she goes,
I would love that, birdie boy rub my back. So
I start rubbing her back. I go, I love you
so much, Grandma. I go, I think you're gonna make

(46:19):
it out of this. And then I go, wait, I
think you might have dropped a tissue behind your bed,
because I can feel I think there's tissue falling off,
and she goes, that's my skin. And my dad and
my uncle go from crying to laughing hysterically, and my
dad's going he's kicking. I'm going, he's.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Rubbing skin over her back.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
He's rubbing skin over her back, and my uncle Jerry's
just and I'm watching these two curtains shake, and I'm
just rubbing skin off her back on I love your grandma. Yeah,
I laughed. I can laugh through just about anything.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Oh god, that's when was the first of you let
you do? I see you cry?

Speaker 1 (46:57):
I start okay. Uh. I came home, I was on
the treadmill. Leannon's in the room with the girls, and
this is. This is in Priscilla's third knee surgery. Priscilla
had five knee surgeries. On her second knee surgery, they
realized the other knee was bad too. They were gonna
have to do another one. And the guy goes, listen,

(47:18):
you're fifteen grand into this dog. I think it's just
I think we need to put her down. And I
went what And he goes, I can't promise that these
are gonna last. But like I'm telling you, the one
that we already fixed, that's bad again. We got to
do that again. So she's asleep. I can put her
down right now if you'd like. And I went, well,
hold on, and I went, oh my god, give me
a can you give me a second, And he goes, yeah, yeah,
give me Like, go talk to your wife, but call

(47:39):
me soon. So I start crying and I'm trying to
hold it together. And I walk in the room and
the girls see me crying and they start laughing and
they go, oh, mom, dad's crying, and Leanne goes, girls,
if dad's crying, we're all about to be crying in
a matter of seconds. He's like, this isn't funny, and
I go they want to put Priscilla down in George

(48:00):
lad like what and then pull it together? And we
didn't put it down. We got two more We got
those two knee surgeries, then two more knee surgeries and
uh yeah, but they've seen me cry a lot now.
Once I once the flud gates open. Dude, I cried
it the Avengers movie when when Spider Man died Spider
I was sobbing crying and Ila is mocking me. I

(48:23):
cry at movies real quick, and they will and they
just you just watch them. They don't even watch the movie.
They just watch me and stare at me and giggle.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Yeah. Yeah, Well that's why I find you to be
such an interesting fascinating person, because like you've got this
larger than life personality, You've got this party of background,
and then like you've got like this soft time oh
yeah yeah. And it's like and even when I met you,
I could just tell immediately. I was like, you know,
this guy's got the softest heart. And at the same time,

(48:52):
if I swore you, I wouldn't necessarily have that, you know, perception.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
I think that's accurate. I don't think anyone. I think
people will think I'm the one thing, and then when
they find out, like the one that always shocks everyone
is I've only had sex with six women and they're
like what, And I was like, yeah, I'm just I
wasn't that guy like the time I lost my virginity
that changed my life. And that moment I went from Okay,
I'm not cool guy that could just bang chicks. I'm

(49:18):
super sensitive guy that needs you to get me because
I'm not sure I do this right. Like my wife
goes that's why my wife takes those phone calls and
she knows I'm never gonna cheap. She knows I am
a wreck. I am a wreck. But yeah, and so
everyone's like, really, you've only had sex with sick. Yeah.
So in college, I go to a bar and I'm
just hoping someone would get me, like I wanted someone
that wanted to watch Fletch three times in a night.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
How does she get about, obviously all of the exposure
of her life and her sex life as well. What's
like allowed? What? What do you need permission for? What
do you get away with without.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Any She says, as long as it's funny. Oh wow
that she goes, as long as it's not mean and
it's funny, I'm in I remember the time I realized
she was game for anything. She farted during oral sex
and I made a joke and she started crying. I said,
what are you crying about? I'm not wanting the fire hole?
Do you'm shit in my mouth? What do you you're crying?

(50:11):
And she said to me, you're definitely telling this on
stage and I wait, I said, what can I And
she goes, well, yeah, obviously if I did this, someone
else has done this. I'm not the only one that
ever did it. And it's funny. You should talk about
this on stage, and I did, and man it was.
It was like a killer bit for a while, but like, yeah,
she watched this hour and her note was I'm cool

(50:33):
with everything you're saying. I need to know the way
you're saying it has loved it, Like I started a
smile in it because I was doing when you do
material a lot, you get bored of it and sometimes
you don't show the sparkle in it the way you
did when you wrote it. And with this material, I
mean making fun of a woman because she's getting older
and she's going through menopause and she's aging. And if

(50:54):
you don't say it with love or a smile. That
was very exact word. There needs to be a smile
and a little bit of rascal your voice, like you
need to say. And so she was really adamant about that.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
I love that. She's like a comedy coach.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Oh she's. I mean, look, she's not funny. Let's be
very clear. I take offense when she tells the people
at the party, I'm the funny one at home. I go,
hang on, my comedy bought the house. Let's be real. Okay,
she's she's a gangster. She's awesome, and same with our girls.
She kind of monitors the material and and runs runs
it by with them with her and talks to them

(51:27):
about it. And you know, yeah, do.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
They think Dad's really cool or Dad's human?

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Oh? Human? They don't think I'm cool at all. They
do not.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
When did that? When did it go from cool to human?
Or was it ever cool?

Speaker 1 (51:40):
In the cool I don't think it's you know, I
had a period of where Georgia I could tell, thought
I was kind of cool. Like Georgia had this like
we took her on fully loaded one year, her and
her friend Daisy, I got this great picture at the
end of the night, I we I tell the machine,
and then I'd bring all the comics on stage and

(52:01):
I'd have them bring me a beer and I'd kill
a beer and I'd spit it in the air, and
it was a fun moment to wait to close the show.
It was always a really cool picture. And one year
I call all the comics out and then everyone starts
walking off and I'm saying goodbye, and Georgia comes out.
I got this great picture and she throws her arm
in the air like she just did a stand like
she like she didn't stand up, and I was like,

(52:22):
what are you doing? She goes, I just wanted to
see what it felt like. But like I think they
think I'm okay. I don't think they think I'm cool. Like,
in all honesty, if I didn't ever go to their
college ever again, they'd be very comfortable with that.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Well, why do you turn up to the clubs.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Like parents weekend, Parents Weekend, or you know. We went
and looked at colleges. I wanted Georgia to go to Boulder,
and so we went to Boulder and this kid yells
out the window the machine and then all of a sudden,
word got out on campus and kids started running and
finding me. And I watched this kid, my child lose
interest in a school very quick, A great school, one

(53:02):
of the best schools in the universe. I love that school.
And she was like, yeah, I'm not going here. And
I was like, what, she goes, I'm not going to
a place where you have fans. I was like, baby,
I think that's gonna be tough. And then she was like,
I won't go to Florida State. I won't go to Florida.
I'm not going here, not going to Georgia. I'm going
I'm gonna find my place. And so I didn't go
look at schools with her. And the next two schools

(53:23):
she looked at she loved. She got into both of
them and she chose one and same with Isla. Would
they hate when I get recognized? Last night we flew
in and paparazzi was waiting for me at the airport,
and Georgia was just like like she walked in and
stood by a wall and was like, she was like,
can we just mom, can make this stop? And I

(53:44):
was like, I don't. I'm not rude. So I'm like,
I'm gonna talk to them. If they want to talk
to me, I'll say something to them. I'm not gonna
be there forever, but yeah, they I think they would
be cool if I wasn't famous.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
How do you deal with that, Like with when you're
raising kids, You've been doing this for a long time.
They've probably been exposed to it since there were kids, Like,
how how have you had that conversation with them? Because
obviously it's still not easy for them.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
We had a moment we were skiing. It was a
very luxurious thing to do. It's not lost on my
kids because we didn't always have money. But we were
skiing and Georgia was having a rough time. There was
something going on with Georgia. By the way, we didn't
know this, but we all had COVID at the time,
and so George's having a rough time and she has

(54:27):
a meltdown and she's you know, you know what a
junior in college high school at the time, she's having
a meltdown and I'm talking to her in front of
where we're staying, right by the lifts, and we're both
in our ski outfits. I'm hold by snowboard. She's got
her snowboard and she's crying, and I'm trying to talk
to her and help her out with this thing she's
going through. And these two dudes are like, oh shit,

(54:50):
the machine. And I just look in her eyes and
she's like, and I was like, what's up, guys, Like
can we get a picture? Like I'm kind of doing
a thing like real quick, real quick, and I'm like,
it's easier just to take the picture than to and
so I take the picture. She goes, I understand that
this allows us to do this. She goes, it would
be nice just to have my dad sometimes, and I

(55:11):
was like, I know, And it's sharing your your time
with fans is what is difficult for them. And I'm
not a good guy at like saying no, like I don't.
I've seen my friends do that before and it always
rubs me wrong. I'm like, just take a picture with it.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Yeah, yeah, I feel the same way. Yeah, it's like
It's almost like this is the reason why you get
to do what you love every day, and the least
you can do is at.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Least you can do is take a second and listen
to someone.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Yeah, and I'm assuming with you as well. People have
great stories, Like that's why I feel like I get
to talk to people who just have amazing stories to
share and life changing moments. And I'm like, I feel
like if I didn't sit there and listen to that,
it almost gives me fuel to keep going and you know,
keep moving because yeah, I hear amazing things. I'm sure
you do too.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Oh so, I mean, you know, you forget you know
a little bit of what we do is talk. We talk.
You know, there's someone right now that probably has a
weird relationship with their dad and hearing this and this one.
You know, there's things that we hope it's funny too.
But you know, like doing the biggest one I always
got was you got me through the pandemic, because you know,
we put out content for them to distract themselves with
a lot of people didn't have big houses to stay

(56:16):
unduring the pandemic. They were in an apartment and they're
just like, this is miserable, and I get that a lot.
I get, you know, right now, the one I'm getting is,
you know, you know, we just put our dog down.
You I've never I've never laughed and sobbed at the
same time. Thank you for letting us process. And but
you know, at the least I can the least I
can do is take a second and talk to someone

(56:37):
who wants to say hi to me.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Yeah. Yeah, And it's like, I mean that that's something
that you do quite uniquely. I feel like the ability
to make someone laugh and gray even like as we've
been talking today, I'm like, I'm like having like a
really emotional moment with you, and you're like making me
crack off at the other end with like Grandma's funeral,
like being in the hospital, and there's a there's a
real beauty in that. Like have you ever sat and

(56:59):
thought about like, was this the first time in this
special that you got extra emotional and got people to crimes?
Was this like one of the first times, or.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Yeah, I've never done this before. I mean, I'm I
don't I don't mean this like cocky, but I don't
think I don't think there's a lot of comics that's
what I'm saying that are doing that? And I didn't
know if I should do.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
It, like you made you do it? Why did you
go there?

Speaker 1 (57:20):
It was ready. I did that story before Razzle Dazzle.
I was gonna do it at the end Razzle Dazzle,
and I just thought, I don't know it just it
felt weird to me for that material. That material, it
felt weird. And I and then and I was and
Georgia called me one time on stage. I was on
stage and right before I released Razzle Dazzle. She goes,
what are you doing? I said, I'm going to stand up.
She goes, oh, are you telling the escape room story?

(57:41):
And I was like no, why should I? She goes, absolutely, Dad.
Do you remember you almost shit in Papa's mouth? And
I went, oh yeah, And then she kind of broke
down the story on stage told it. I went, that's
my closer and I was like, good, I'll get made
fun of if I do this dog story. Everyone's going
to make fun of me. And and and say, I
just I can I'm thinking of it too much. And
then I do this special and everyone I was working

(58:04):
with was like, are you seeing what's happening in the
room and I was like, no, because you can't really
see anything. And they're like, yo, we're out there, and
they're like grown men are sobbing crying, like people are
holding each other and laughing and crying at the same time.
They're like this is different. Like I remember a dude
I really respect I brought with me on the road.
He's like, that has to be your closer. He's like that.

(58:25):
He goes, I don't know one comic making people cry,
but making them happy cry like they're crying for something
they love, and then they're laughing and you end on
a laugh. He's like, you have to do it. I
just didn't know if it was working. It was like
where you said about writing a book, you sit with
it for four years and then and I shot this
in July and it just came out this March. So

(58:45):
I've been sitting on this special and I just was like,
I am going to get destroyed. Like I just started
in my head going like, no one's gonna like this.
Everyone's gonna make fun of this last story. They're gonna go, oh,
bird always cries, that's all he does. And and I
put it out like the first day. It was trending
at number two and I went which I'd never trended

(59:06):
over six, and I was like, WHOA, that's weird. And
I went into my stories where people like mention you,
and it just looked like a straight line and I
was like whoa. And I was like, I only got
one story. I only got one person mentioning me. And
I hit it and I hit it and I was like,
oh my god. I couldn't get the line to go away.

(59:26):
And I was like, and it was all about this story.
Everyone was just sobbing, crying. People were sending me pictures
of their dogs. They were holding their dogs, they were
filming their husband's crying. They were I mean, it was
so cathartic for me. And I'll be very real. So
you go on Netflix on a Tuesday, you find out
if you trend on Wednesday. I did press all Wednesday morning,

(59:49):
from six in the morning till nine o'clock. I don't
know if anyone's liked the special. I don't know if
it's trending. I don't know any of that. I go
and take a nap and I'm waiting for an agent
or someone to text me. Like I figured, I said
to myself, if it's just trends in the top ten,
I'm gonna be happy. Look, i'm fifty two. Maybe there's
guys doing it better than me, younger than me. I
expect them to just blow my doors off. Just please

(01:00:11):
tell me I have another year of doing stand up
like the way your Head thinking. And I took a nap.
I woke up and I got a text from a
younger comic I really really like Ricky Blez and he
just said, Yo, man, you're killing it. This is a
great special. I've been a fan of yours for a while.
I'd love to hang out next time in LA and
not do a podcast hang out. And I was like,
that's cool. And I like this guy. This guy's doing

(01:00:33):
what I was trying to do at his age. He's
doing it way better than I'm doing it. So I
was like, oh nice. I was like, you liked the special? Cool.
I was like nice, a young kid liked the special.
And then my texts blow up and that's when I
went into my stories and I saw it. And as
I'm watching the stories, people are saying I started sobbing, crying,
just out of gratitude, out of just sitting there going

(01:00:53):
like oh, the thing I did is good. It's not horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
It's not horrible.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
People don't hate me. Oh. I was just sobbing crying
in my bed. I was like, and then Leanne comes
in from her workout class. She's like, what's wrong with you?
She just watched it. She goes, you're training at number
two and I was like, what. I didn't even look
at Netflix. And then I was like and so I
was like, whatever, I'm good. My first day was good.
And then it's been like that every day. The response
has been crazy. People really are connecting with that last story.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Yeah, talk to me about what you just said now,
that that inevitable embracing of insignificance and irrelevance that everyone
goes through, like that idea that one day, oh yeah,
no one's going to care about me, No one's going
to care about you, No one's going to care about
ninety nine point nine percent of everyone who's relevant current

(01:01:41):
whatever trending we want to call it. And there's that
thing that creatives go to where you see them holding
on to their last bit of relevance and significance. And
it's painful to watch, Yeah, but you understand it because
you go, well, wait a minute, I really liked no
matter how much we say, Like you know, Ellen said
something that I love, she goes. I used to always

(01:02:02):
say I didn't care what people thought. That's when everyone
thought I was amazing. Like, you know, it's like it's
really easy to I don't care what anyone thinks when
I'm the number one person in the world. But then
when you actually are not number one, number two, number three,
number four, you start getting down on that list. You'll
be on number ten. Now you do start caring what
people think, especially like what you said the New God like,
and especially when the new God has respect, that's a

(01:02:23):
beautiful thing. Yeah, But when the new god's kind of like,
you know, living how you were when you were the
New God, who has that overconfidence, that arrogance, how do
you think about that? Like how have you reflected? Have
you thought about that at all?

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
It's all I think. You remember, I didn't. I was
like I was just going to be a journeyman comic,
Like I wasn't supposed to be successful. I you know,
I did Travel Channel and I thought that was gonna
be my life. And then when I got let go
from Travel Channel and my special didn't do well, never
the machine didn't do well, and I'm getting fast shamed
by Tommy. I was like, okay, I remember saying, are

(01:03:01):
we cool with this? Can we do this like this?
At this level? Like I was the guy at the store.
When people would talk to me, more successful comments would
talk to me, they'd look over my shoulder waiting for
someone better to talk to. I was a nice guy.
People liked me, but I wasn't relevant to them, and
so they were like, ooh, that guy's Oh, that guy's
twenty eight and he's killing it. I'll give me one second,
but I want to go talk to him. And I

(01:03:21):
was like, am I cool with that? I remember one
to him coming off stage, not wearing cool sneakers, wearing
dad jeans and seeing a young comic murdering it in
the car that my wife and I had seen in
we had looked at that brand car and that he
had the car they had in the showroom, a car
was like two hundred and twenty thousand dollars and I
was like, oh, how can you afford that? So I

(01:03:45):
wasn't supposed to be successful, and I was cool with it.
I was definitely cool with it. I was like, I
can just do comedy at Funny Bones. I love comedy.
I'll keep putting out specials. Maybe never know. Look, Rogan's
a good friend. I can always do his podcast. You know.
That's how my brain worked. I had my podcast, but
no one cared. And then I had the conversation with
my dad. I got like a from Travel Channel. I

(01:04:05):
had the conversation with Brogan and him and Tommy, but
I remember them both saying like, don't worry, we can
help you get ad sales, and I was like, okay,
and then I posted the machine story and then all
of a sudden it went like crazy. I mean I
had never experienced that before, like genuinely viral. And then
all of a sudden, I started selling tickets and I
was like, whoa, holy crap, this is crazy. He's just

(01:04:28):
selling out and not looking at ticket counts, just going
in and knowing everything's clean. And so I really honestly
had kind of already let go of all of it,
but there's a part of me that remembers, Oh, it
was cool when I remember getting right before I got
let go in Travel Channel, I got into a town car.
They got me a town car for something, and I
remember getting in and going this is the last town

(01:04:48):
car ride in I was like, I should really enjoy this.
So I kept always saying that. Every time I went
to theaters, I was like, I probably won't do theaters again.
You only do theaters once. Really, I'll go back to clubs,
but enjoy this. This is the Chicago Theater. Let's go
for a job tonight, watch the sunset, and then yo ah,
this is crazy. I'm doing the Beacon. I probably I'm
not going to sell two shows at the Beacon ever again.

(01:05:10):
So let's really enjoy this. And I brought my girls
that I grew up with in Tampa up to the
out to my bus and we hung out. And then
when I started doing arena, I didn't even know I
was going to do arenas. I didn't know I was
doing an arena. I was in Green Bay and I
was like, I'm doing an arena and they're like yeah,
and I was like, whoa. I got to really enjoy this.
And so I every step of the way have been

(01:05:31):
like I got to enjoy this. But then you know,
I take nine months off wait for the special to
be released, and I was and I did it again.
Am I cool with not being relevant? Am I cool
with not being the thing, the shiny object and maybe
going back to clubs or going back to theaters. I

(01:05:52):
remember I texted my manager to day, I go, hey, guys,
I don't need to do arenas anymore. I can do
I love theaters. So Kevin Hart did a theater. I go,
there's no shame. I've been doing a theater a lot
of them. You can see a lot of me make
more money than an arena. And then a special came
out and I was like, it was just like a relief.
I was like, I was like, I can breathe. I
can breathe that. Oh my god, that is like and uh.

(01:06:15):
And then we're on a call today and they're like, yo,
you know, doing arenas again in the fall starting September.
And I told him, I said, And I said to them,
I said, you know, hey, when we book out twenty
twenty six, I don't have to do arena tours like
I don't have to be holding on to something. I'm
cool with doing some clubs and doing some some theaters
and doing some outdoor venues. I'd like to do the

(01:06:37):
Gorge again, but like I go, let's shake it up,
you know. And they were all like really, I was like, yeah,
I don't know, I don't care like it's but that
it's I've watched it go away for people. It sucks.
You're right, I watching someone hold too Tightly. It's by
that song hold On Loosely by thirty eight Specials. So
great loosely and don't leg shoh because if you hold

(01:07:02):
you tight girl, You're gonna lose control. You're gonna you're gone.
It's a great song. It's a great hold on Loosely.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
No. I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
It's a great name for a special Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Yeah, it is a good yea, it is a good name.
I love what you're saying though that I was. I
was driving to one of my clients homes the other
day and this is someone I grew up watching, huge
fan of someone that I coach and work with, and
I was driving to his house and I walked in
and you know, it's like it's like a mile drive
from the gate to even get to the house. And
I was just like, I have to live in the

(01:07:34):
moment that I cannot believe. And now I've been I've
been working with him for seven years, so I've driven
to this house like every day for years. But I
was like, it loses its value when I stop being
grateful for it. As soon as it becomes familiar, like
what you're saying. I love what you just said. I love, love,
love what you just said. Because as soon as greatness
becomes familiar and excellence becomes familiar and all of this

(01:07:56):
stuff becomes familiar, you lose its value. And then when
you lose it, you don't you never got to experience it.
So you realize you never had it in the first
place because you were just running after it like you
were chasing the whole time. Oh, you never held it.
And what you just said is you held it for
that moment.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
I still hold it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Yeah, you still.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
I just signed up when I did the Machine. I'm
my producer kle Boider. He's he's one of the greatest guys,
like guys happens to be a great movie producer. And
I was like, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna not drink
and not I'm gonna be clean, I'm gonna work out,
i'm gonna eat clean, I'm gonna look good, and he
just kind of looked at me and was like, ya, hey, man,

(01:08:34):
that's that's not who I hired. He's like, look, if
I know who you are, Like, if you're not having fun,
you're not gonna it's gonna show up on screen. But
if you're having fun, it'll show up on screen, like
if you were having fun, And he goes, I can't
tell you the movie's gonna be a hit. I can't
tell if it's gonna be a flop. You never know.
But what I can tell you is you're probably only
gonna get to make one movie, So enjoy this process.
Have fun. And man, I had so much fun making

(01:08:57):
the Machine. It was the experience of a life time
because every day I was like, I will never make
another movie. I will never have another movie where I
don't have to memorize lines because I say whatever I
want to say, Like it was like the greatest life
experience of my life. But yeah, that's how I look
at every project. This is the probably last one I'll do.
You know. I thought, I know I have one more

(01:09:19):
special with Netflix, like I owe them one, and I go,
that might be my last one.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
That only makes it better.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
That so the cool thing about a special and you
don't get to experience this, And I don't think some
comics think about this, but I think about this. So
I take this material that I create about eighteen twenty
four months out and I take this and I work
it and I play with it, and at a certain
point I get bored of it and I reinvent it
and I come back to it. But I play with
this for two years. I work on this same stuff,

(01:09:47):
and when I do my last taping, I did six shows,
and on my last taping, I was present and I said,
this is the last time I'll say these words. Oh,
it's like it's like I give them the universe there.
I'll never get him again. And I get so emotional
saying that. But you know, you're so your material is
who you are, and I can and I go, this

(01:10:08):
is the last time I'll say this word, this wording
and this cadence, and it's just so. It's with the band.
You never do that. And then sometimes you tell a
story like a machine and you've been telling it now
for fifteen years, and I'll still tell it. I'll still
tell it. Listen. I was that story. He changed my
I sat listen. I sat in the Rymen Theater. There's

(01:10:28):
a woman named Angela Johnson, brilliant comic. She's got a
great nail salon bit. I was with Arspear and Nate Bargatzi.
None of us were working very well, none of us
were making money. She had sold out the rhymen and
they were chanting for this nail salan bit. And I
said to the Lord, I said, Lord, give me one
bit that people give a shit about. I'll tell it
until the day I die. And he was definitely listening.

(01:10:52):
He's like, I got you. I'll one up and I'll
make it a twelve minute bit. You're gonna make a
movie out of this bit. I'll tell I got you,
And that's my nail salon bit.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
You've always been so open about mental health when I'm
talking about anxiety, and you know, that's a big priority
for us here as well, because I find that so
many people in their journey never get to share that.
People don't get to see that within people. You've talked
about anxiety, intrusive thoughts like why were you comfortable enough
to open up about that without thinking people are gonna
pick it that look at that weird your peers kind

(01:11:23):
of where where did that get you to get that
courage and confidence?

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
I think it was stupidity. I think I mean, I
just was like, you know, when I got into the business,
I was like one hundred percent transparency. I was watching
comics as a character, and I was like, that doesn't
seem fun. So you're gonna pick a character and then
you stay a character your whole life. I was like,
I'm gonna be Burt, and I'm just gonna be Burt
and anything I think I say, and I'm gonna live
by this sword, die by the sword. This is my thing.

(01:11:48):
And when anxiety came up, I just was like, yo,
it's I have anxiety. Like I have anxiety, have really
bad anxiety. I have OCD, I have intrusive thought I
have I have struggled with all. I don't know. I
don't think I have depression only because I just I can't.
I can't, I can't. I think people that had real,
real depression. I think it's insulting for me to think

(01:12:10):
the thing I go through is depression. I know what
it's like to have anxiety. I had an anxiety attack
driving in college and I didn't know what it was.
I thought I had a brain tumor. And then the
first time I was explaining it to someone then and
this is I mean, this is probably twenty seven years old.
Twenty eight years old. I was explaining it to someone

(01:12:31):
and they were like, oh, you get anxiety attacks. I
went to a therapist and she said, I have a
fear of flying. I don't know if you've noticed, but
I have a fear of flying ritual as I do
when I fly. She said, well, yeah, you have anxiety.
I'll let me give you Xanax. Then I took Xanax
and I was like, oh my god, is this what
regular people feel like? I was like, are you kidding me?
And then I developed a problem with annex as many

(01:12:52):
people with anxiety do. And my wife, right when we
had Georgia, she said, yo, you're done taking xanax like
I had taken it. I've been using it, you know,
and off for like a year. And she may be
a little more in george In lands like, you're done
with x annex. It's you can have one if you
need one, but it can't be your go to every night.
It can't be the way you put yourself to sleep.
And then when I said we started doing podcasts, I

(01:13:13):
just was like, I don't know. I was like, I
just be open and honest, you know, I have ruminating
thoughts where I just chew a thought over and over again.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
What's been the most recent time this morning?

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
You want me to the one this morning. I'm a
great great comic. Nick Fune was telling me about when
he quit drinking, and he said he was having a
liver failure and his back was hurting. And this morning
I woke up on my side and my back hurt.
And I went, that does it. You've party too much.
Your liver's failing. Your liver's failing. And I started going
through thoughts. I could not stop. And I have a

(01:13:47):
saying when I go, when I start having anxiety or OCD,
I go, be like a shark, get out of bed
and start moving. Second you start moving, things start helping.
And I go, get in the gym, getting the saana.
Let's get in the sauna. Let's getting the saw. Let's
sweats some stuff out. It's just back pain. You trust me,
you would have other symptoms and I but I can't
connect with it, and it just it goes on and
on and on, and I just obsess about it and

(01:14:10):
then and I bring it up to almost everyone. I've
brought it up to everyone I've seen today and then
I go, no booze, no booze anymore. I'm done for
a month. I'm gonna cut off for a month. That
does it. And then I come up here and I
see your house, I go, all right, bottle of champagne,
what's it gonna hurt? Right? But I have a saying
with life, whether you're dealing with anxiety, O C D, eating, uh, drinking, masturbate, whatever,

(01:14:37):
you're a little thing is my saying is, and it
kind of calms me down. Let's do today just a
little better than we did yesterday. That's all. We gotta do,
just a baby step a little better than yesterday. And
if we have a bad day today, realize tomorrow we're
gonna have We're gonna do better. We have an opportunity
to do better tomorrow. And so I've been stuck in
that mindset today and I said, let's just get let's

(01:14:58):
do a little bit better today than we did yesterday.
And so that's where my head's at. But yeah, they've
got I've had, really And you know, my daughters have anxiety,
and Leanne doesn't. They have sleep anxiety. They both had
sleep anxiety when they were young. So Georgia would uh
wake up and think she was dying. And I remember

(01:15:20):
I was so glad I had anxiety thenks I could
help her. Leanne's like, just go count sheep. I go, uh,
let's not count. We're not counting. And that's the worst
way to deal with this, just because if you it's
shutting your brain off is the thing you need to do.
And if your brain's just going after it, you're you're screwed. Yeah,
and so uh, but Leanne's also gangster. She got both
of them into therapy immediately.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
And this therapist helped them immensely. But now Georgia and
I can text about anxiety and talk about it and
and you know what's the best thing about it is
when you know other people have it, is you're like, oh,
so I'm not broken, I'm not crazy. Yeah, And that's
the greatest feeling. And it's you know, my don't look
at my family's seen me. When I get ready for

(01:16:03):
a flight, it's like I get physically ill. I start
feeling my head getting tight. I feel this and they're like, hey,
you just have an anxiety. And then to recognize it.
Sometimes it doesn't help one hundred percent, but you can
breathe that's one another one thing I always say, like, wait,
I'm breathing. I'm still breathing, and I just take deep
breaths and I'm still breathing. Crazy anxiety scuba diving.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Oh yeah, I mean definitely trying to breathe and scuba
diving is odd enough.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
I mean probably one of the biggest panic attacks I
ever had. We're scuba diving in a thunderstorm in Fiji
at ninety eight and we're in a tin boat and
I'm just like, I get in the water and we
start sinking and I realize very quick nothing I like
is down at the bottom of this ocean. And I
start kicking up to the top and my dive instructor

(01:16:50):
just grabs me, grabs my BC, grabs my thing, puts
in my mouth, like just holds it there and just
going like this. And I sunk with this Fijian woman
who looked like Junior Sayou. She was a big woman,
and she took me to the bottom of the ocean,
and I was like and then, but you know, I

(01:17:10):
got through it. You get through it. Yeah, you always
get through it. No one dies from anxiety.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
You've developed enough coping mechanisms.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
I don't know if I have, and I don't know
if they're healthy. I know alcohol has been a big
coping mechanism of mine. Yeah. When I the first time
I learned I could sleep without drinking, like you know,
because you do it from twenty two to like, you know, thirty,
and then one day you're like, I gotta try to
go to sleep without a cocktail or out a goss
of wine. First time I did that, I was like, whoa,
I can fall asleep. Shut up. Oh my god, I've

(01:17:39):
got enough tools to shut my brain off.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Yeah, and that relationship feels healthier now with alcohol.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
Oh yeah, I mean, look must be real. Alcohol's poison.
Everyone knows that it's not good you shouldn't do it.
But I'm also not a Mormon. I like to have
a good time. I like to get loose. It's for alcohol.
For me. It's not even the buzz. I gotta be
honest with you. It's the letting loose. It's the celebration.
It's the hey, do you want to do a shot?
And you go, oh, I definitely want to do it,

(01:18:06):
like like the it's the permission to party like it
literally is. I mean, I name that tour, this because
when someone's like, hey, man, when someone likes a joint,
you're like, you want that? That's that's like, go let's
do it, let's get after it. I love when people
crack open a bottle of wine, crack open a drink
and go, hey, you want one. It's It's the funnest

(01:18:27):
thing in the world. When when flight attendants say to me,
can I get you something to drink? I love that
because they don't always say that, but when they do,
I go, here's gonna be a good fight. I always
I said, I have a speech that i've I've people
get passed around. But it is like a first kiss.
When we got married, Leanne goes, I says, it bum
you out, You'll never have sex with anyone. She goes, no,

(01:18:47):
absolutely not. I said me either. I said, I think
I'm good just having sex with you. She goes. What
really bums me out is I'll never get a first kiss.
I know for us, that's the worst because we got
to do the kiss, all the anxieties on us, We
got to wait the whole night. Does you want to
kiss me? Is she gonna gets me? Should I take her?
Should I do it in the car? Should do it?
When we walk to the car. When should I do it? Oh? No,
that was the wrong time. That was wrong time for
a woman. It's just this excitement of like, when's it

(01:19:10):
gonna happen? Is he doing it?

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
When's it is it? When's my present show up? And
that's how I feel about shots.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
Well, what's the whoop telling you? I see you're at
the whoop onne.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
So I'm crazy, I'm crazy, neurotic. Okay, so I check.
I check all of it. My favorite day in the
year is what December thirtieth when they post our scores.
I love whoop and uh. I have found that if
I am overly hydrated, my heart rate is lower. So

(01:19:43):
every night before I go to bread, I drink for
liquid dests, nineteen ounce liquid dests. I drink four of them.
I peel the middle the night, but I drink four
of them. My heart rates around fifty six beats per
minute when I and that's after having you know, bottle
of wine or some porosos and so I'm wildly hydrated.
And that is my key for my whoop. Also, you know,
for me, it also tells you how hard to work out.

(01:20:03):
I love that. I love a goal because you know
when we did the first show of October, we were
Charles all trying to set goals of how hard we
can work out, and that when you see the top
of the mountain, you know where you have to go,
and so you go, all right, I'm not done. I'm
getting back on the treadmill. I'm gonna get on the
assault bike. Okay, here, we're going to do the ski
org for We'll do And I like, I love that,

(01:20:23):
Like right now I've already hit my goal. My goal
was like I slept horrible last night. My goal was, uh,
I think at ten and I'm at nine point six.
But if it wasn't, go to the gym, hit the
ski urg ten calories ten times and we'll see you
just get there ten and get them a minute break. Yeah.
I like this shit.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
I love it. I love whoop chair. It's great to measure.
You need it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
And then they measure your steps and you're like, yo, woop,
how long have you been doing that? Because I didn't
send this in. You just turn something on. Give me
my old steps. I want to know what my old
steps were. Yeah. When I started measuring steps was up
very first. I got a fit bit, the little one
you put in your pocket and brow that change again
for me, I was like, I'm into fitness tracking. And
then when they sent these to us for the first

(01:21:05):
second Sober October, Buddy, I've been this thing does not
come off my wrist unless I do a special I
take it off. You're gonna need to pay me for that. Whoop.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
Yeah, we should figure that out.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
Yeah, they used to. They still do. They They're pretty
good to us.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Yeah, I love that, but it's been I mean, you
are literally the best time, buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
You're the best interview I've ever done. You're so good
at this, but I feel so present. It's crazy you
but you were so much fun. Now you gotta realize
this is like there's good chemistry. What we should do
is we should have a double date, your wife and
my wife. I love that, and then my wife's gonna
go shut the up Bert let him talk.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
I can't wait to me, I know, honestly, we have
to hang outside of this, like I'd love that I've
got your number. You're such a good time, and we
end every episode with a final five. These questions have
to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum. Okay,
but I may ask you to elaborate, because I think
you're going to give you some more. Some answers so questionable.
One is, what is the best advice you've ever heard

(01:22:06):
or received.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
Don't take anyone's advice. That's the best advice. But sometimes
everyone's advice is so built up with their bullshit. I
remember posting a dance video and everyone's like, why would
you do that? It sold out my torn seconds. I'm
so glad I didn't listen to anybody. Don't take a
good show, don't take anyone's advice.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
I love that. I fully agree the amount of publishers
that told me not to call my book Think like
a Monk. That was my first book, and they were like,
don't call it that. No one wants to Think like
a Monk.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
They're telling they're giving you advice based on their failures.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
Totally, and you're not them totally. And then data, which
is which is already in the past.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Yeah, right. Having said that, Joe Rogan gave me the
best advice ever. And he just said he just said
to me, just you know, a little high, little drunk
in the back of the store. He's like, you need
a Netflix special. And I was like, yeah, he's like, no,
you need one. I was like, do you don't know how
to get that? Joe? And he goes, be undeniable and
he just walked away. I was like, the fuck does
that mean? I wrote in my joke book and I
just tried to figure it out. And then what you

(01:23:06):
are undeniable? You're like, h that was great advice.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
I love that question. On the two, what is the
worst advice you've ever heard or received?

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Worst advice I ever got was you should start wearing
a shirt. If I had more of shit told you that.
I will say her name, but some of the work
that showtime. She said, hey, you should wear a shirt
for this. Trust me, no one does it without a
shirt for a reason. You should wear a shirt. And
I was and I almost did. And then she said
how about this. You do one with a shirt, one

(01:23:35):
without a shirt, okay? And I said, well then we
can't cut them between them. She goes, yeah, we'll use
one with a shirt. Do not do it without a shirt.
And I was like, I don't know. I can't remember
thinking I'm a little different, like I want to do
it my way, like I know that, And then a
lot of people were like, why would you not wear
a shirt, my dad, Why would you, buddy put on
a Brooks Brother's coat a tie look sharp? And I

(01:23:56):
was like, no, I'm going to do it shirtless. And
thank god. I mean, like, I think that's been my
I mean that's how some people times. People just go, oh,
I didn't recognize you with a shirt on. That's so good.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
I you know what, when you came in today and
I buzzed you in and I saw you without your show,
and I was like, he's gonna do it without shot.
I love it. I love it. I was, he's gonna
do with that shot. I told the team. I was like,
he's coming with our shirt. He's gonna do it. And
then you came out of the car and then your
your your team had your shirt and I was like, oh,
okay with this.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
People would my breasts are just too meaty. I'm at
the point now where my breast at my stomach. You
don't know what that's like. It's sad. I look good
standing up shirtless, but sitting down shirtless, I have melted candles.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
Dude, it's great. I love it. I was, so I
was like, guys, he's gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
I can answer these last one shirtless, just just to
really be brand friend. God, this is a nice shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
It's a really nice shot.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
I really like it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
Don't you look great?

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
You look great?

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
Yeah. It's like, wow, we're getting out there. We go Okay,
we're getting the full experience. I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
Now. I'm like, okay, what's our next question? They're amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
I love this. Question. Number three is what's different and
similar about the way you parent your kids and the
way your dad parented you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Oh, I'll tell you what's similar. Okay, I parented my
kids the exact way my dad parented me. What's different
is my kids are smarter than I was. And they
told me I was doing it wrong. A dude. I
was a raise your voice, raise your voice kind of dad.

(01:25:36):
Girls didn't. I remember the biggest fight we ever gotten
with girls. They took the collars. They like when our
dogs are naked and we have bull masters Like, oh, girls, second,
you take the colors off. I can't control that dog.
And they let both the dogs out and they chased
a woman and I couldn't get them say that the
collars and I came in and I started yelling at
my girls, and Georgia goes, just so you know, when
you get to hear, we know there's nowhere else you're going.

(01:25:57):
And I was like what. She goes, the threat's over.
This is as bad as a guess. And I was like, well,
she goes, you're not gonna hit us, so it's not working,
all right? And I was like, oh shit, and I realized, oh,
it's not working. You can't just go like that, does it?
I'm not because this is as bad as it gets.
I go, Okay, where does it go from here? And
then Georgia took the car with her friends and you're

(01:26:19):
not allowed to do that, and she was like, here
we go again. LeAnn caught her and I said, yo,
come home right now. She drops her friends off, she
comes home, she sits and she's like, all right, do
it like that? I go, hey, it's just unsafe. Can
you do me a favor? Just write, like, write like
a thousand words on why you think that I'd be

(01:26:42):
upset about this? And she started crying and she goes, wait,
you're not gonna yell at me. I went, no, it
doesn't work. You said that it doesn't work, and it
doesn't work. You still you're still doing bad things. So like,
just write a thousand words and then give it to me.
And she started sobbing, crying, and she was like, she goes,
I think you're you're turning into like a really great dad.

(01:27:03):
And I was like really, and she goes, you understand me,
your dad. It didn't work, and then she wrote a
thousand words and it was all thousand words why she
loves me and doesn't want to let me down. And
I went, oh shit, yeah, I love my dad, but
he didn't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
Wow. Do you think having to do it has changing
like that?

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
Oh? Yeah, those two kids, those two kids are just
incredible kids, really incredible kids who get it and uh
and get me and uh perfect trying to play on
a trip to Hawaiian and both of them want to
get jobs this summer. I'm like, what are we talking about?
My dad said Hawaii. I'd be likeyeh, I've got my

(01:27:42):
job tomorrow. Dad. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
I love that question Number four. You're such an open book.
What's something people don't know about you that they'd be
surprised to hear?

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
I think if people heard my inner dialogue sometimes interesting,
I think they'd I think people would be bummed out
for me. Oh interesting, You know how you say like
you say, like the things sometimes you say to yourself.
You go, I forget their quote, but it's like, you know,
what would what would you say if someone was saying
that about your daughter? Yeah, and you go, what, I

(01:28:13):
beat that person up? And then why would you let
them do it to you? Sometimes my inner dialogue is
it can be really punitive, and I think I think
if people heard it, they would it would break their
heart a little bit. And I that's the one thing
I tried better to change about myself is my inner
dialogue to be more positive about myself. But at the
same time, that punitiveness is the thing that drives me

(01:28:35):
a little bit, where I go, don't let them if
they think that about you, You change, you do better,
You get that does it. Let's get in the gym,
let's write, let's read that script, Let's let's do that movie.
Let's challenge ourselves to do that. Let's go back on door,
let's take time off. Like I think that inner dialogue,
as unhealthy as it may be, I bet if most
people heard that inner dialogue, they'd give me a hug

(01:28:55):
and go I do the same shit.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
Mm yeah, definitely, Yeah, I think we will do. I
do it. We all do it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
You just look in the mirror and then you should
be happy. Look at these crystal blue electric eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
Oh, I think there's so many. I think you're spot
there's so many. And by the way, it is that
you're somewhat trained to be driven and you know that
that level of setting that standard high is what lets
you rise and keep going. Otherwise we would have sat
every ten minutes and walked off right like what, there's
no need. So there's that, and then there's the compassion.

(01:29:30):
And that's why I've seen the best performers in the world.
They have high standards, but then they have high grace.
And it's like if you have one or the other,
it doesn't work. If you have high standards and you
have low grace, you can't actually keep to those high standards.
And if you have low standards and high grace, well
then you'll never get anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
I'm always blown away by guys with crazy confidence, and
I'm like, is that real? Like I go like, like
people just talk wild shit. I'm like, I'm like, yo,
I'm actually a good comic. I'm better than like, I'm
like legitimate, Like you believe that about yourself. I'm always
blown away by that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
Yeah, but you have to, Yeah, you have to. There
was this great Federer gave this Roger feder of the
tennis Player gave this amazing commencement speech last year, and
he was saying that he's only won something like sixty
percent of his points in his lifetime, and he was saying,
the best thing I have to do is lose a
point and then forget about that point. That could got
to move on because others we're going to lose the

(01:30:25):
next points, the next point if I keep thinking about
that last loss. But because I've lost a ton of
points in my life, he goes, My skill is not
to not lose points. My skill is to be able
to leave that point that I lost in the background
to go win the next point. And I feel like that,
that's that compassion, that's that grace of like move on
next one, like you did with your next special the
first one didn't work out, next one, Like let's see

(01:30:45):
what can go.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
So it's crazy. I think that's uh, yeah, I don't
know who i'd be with if I like I sometimes
toy with the idea of getting on prozac or something,
and then I go but wait, I don't want to
get rid of the Maybe that's my mom. I thought
I was gonna own. Was like, she goes, oh, honey,
those are your nooks and crannies. What my mom has?
Zero anxiety, zero anxiety.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
Wow, I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
My dad called one time he's called me on FaceTime.
He goes, hey, buddy, I want to just tell you
that I love you. I'm going into surgery tomorrow. I go, okay,
I said, was it a crazy surgery? He goes no,
but you know, you know, I just want to you
know know, I love you. And I hear from my
mom in the background go, sometimes they don't wake up.
I was like, wait, mom, what she said? Sometimes they
don't wake up, So your dad may not wake up.
He may die. And I'm like I look at my

(01:31:30):
dad's eyes and he's like I live with this woman.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
Oh good? Last two questions?

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
Where am I? Let's do? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
So has there ever been a joke or something you
said in a roast or something like that on stage
where you're like, yeah, I went too far?

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
But yeah, yeah, oh wow, yeah, every podcast I do.
You're sensitive too, that's your thing. Oh, I never I
never want a joke to hurt someone. Yeah, I remember
I told a joke one time about a black women.
It was a good joke. I would have stood by
it had a fan not come up to me as
a black woman. She was really pretty and she said, hey, man,

(01:32:09):
I I'm a fan, and I was like cool. She goes,
I just want you to know that that joke kind
of hurt a little bit. And she goes, and I
know that wasn't your intention, but it didn't make me
feel like I was still part of the team. I
felt like I was now an outsider. And I went ooh,
she goes, yeah, I know, she goes, I didn't. I

(01:32:30):
wasn't thinking about being black until you said that. And
then when you said it, I realized. I was like,
I'm the only black woman in there, and I went, oh,
that's not my intention. She goes, I know that's why
I'm telling you. Wow. That was like yeah, And I remember,
But you don't realize that when you do call me,
you're just trying to get last right. And the one
time I didn't believe it, I was blind and he
was blind. I really regret that I didn't. Tommy told

(01:32:52):
me he wasn't blind. He was lying and I tested
him and then he got up and he was really
blind and I was like, wow, he's really blind. And
then he got blind two days ago and I was like,
oh god, so he wasn't it was, yeah, that was I. Hey,
I can we could do a podcast on regrets. I've
been doing this twenty five years. I regret a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
Oh god, what about what about when you said your door?
I see especially? And then like Dad stopped being a misogynist,
like they were like.

Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
They told me, They go, yeah, I that is just
a misogynist and I went, no, I'm not. And they
went have you ever watched your stand up? And I
was like yeah, and they're like do you hear the
way you talk about mom? And I was like, but
that's mom and they're like do dad? Dude, you're a
wild misogynist. And then Isla was like, could you just
write a joke for women, like to make the women

(01:33:38):
feel like better than the men? And I was like,
I can do that, and then I wrote it and
they didn't like it. They definitely didn't like it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
But but maybe that's coming. Maybe you're you're moving in
that direction.

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
Maybe I don't know. I don't know. What my direction is.
Now that I have this crying joke at the end,
I feel like everyone's gonna be like, what are you
gonna make us cry about next? And I'd be like, oh, God,
hope my dad dies so I buried my dad. They're like,
here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
Final question. We asked this to every guest who's ever
been on the show. If you could create one law
that everyone in the world had to follow, what would
it be.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
The law I would make, Like I really dig like
Siesta in Spain, but not everyone's a napper. But I
like that concept that there's like I would do, like
I would do state mandated happy hours, Like state mandated
happy hours. We're like, we're like you had at five

(01:34:35):
o'clock when you got off work, you couldn't go home.
You had to go to everyone have quarter pointed bars,
and you had to go to these bars and you
don't have to drink, but you got to spend time
and talk to people in the community. Like you've got
to go there and people can drink, and it's only
an hour. It's one hour, but everyone goes you and
everyone has to go and be social and just be
connected to That's where I think so cool about London.
We were talking about that is the pub energy. You

(01:34:57):
guys got that, and I think that in America if
we knew, like I was like, oh, we got to
wrap this up. We got to go to Chili's real quick.
And you're like, oh, you go to Chili's too. I go, well,
this week, I'm going to Chili's. And then we went
to Chili's and you're like, we should get a drink.
I think that would be awesome and I would definitely
do comedy at those shows. I would love that court
appointed mandated happy hour comedy shows.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
There we go, first time ever we've had that on
the show. So it's a good answer. Well, I love it,
but crashier lucky specials.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
Out the luckiest dude.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
This is so much fun.

Speaker 1 (01:35:31):
You're the best, and thank you for thank you for
listening to me tell you how important I was on
that plane. I'm so glad I said that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
In the best ways. I was like, I was like,
he is I already know he's funny, because I was like, no,
normally if someone said that you just it wouldn't line.
But you said it in the most sweet and daring way.

Speaker 1 (01:35:51):
I wish I had recorded that I wish I recorded
that because I would love to hear what I sound
like talking about myself because I know what I know
it comes from a good place. But especially, like I kept,
if I see someone I recognize, I get overwhelmed.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
You were amazing, You're so nice. And then you mentioned
Tom Sagura and I was like, oh, yeah, I know
Tom because my videographer works with Tom, and so I
was aware. And then yeah it was and I knew
what Too Bears was, but it was. It was one
of those weird situations where like we just but we
hit it off. Man, dude, you're here.

Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
What's crazy? As I had you. I had videos of
you saved in my YouTube you send them to and
I was like, I was like, I am watched, I
watch you. I relax, I sit back and listen to
your interviews. You're the best.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
I want to come to your next special, next live.
I'm there in the audience.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
Done double date first.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
I'd love it for that that first. Okay, I love it.
I'm in. I'm in, I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
If you love this episode, you love My interview with
Will Smith on owning your truth and unlocking the power
of manifestation.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
Anybody who hasn't spoken to their parents or their brother,
call them right now. Don't think you're going to have
a chance to call them tomorrow or next week. That
opportunity with my father changed every relationship in my life.

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