How do you normally calm yourself when you’re overwhelmed?
Have you ever tried meditation before?
Today, Jay brings you a diverse exploration of meditation with some of today’s most insightful minds: Dr. Joe Dispenza, Big Sean, Michael Acton Smith, Vishen Lakhiani, and Sam Harris. From science to music, entrepreneurship to spirituality, each guest reveals how meditation has shaped their lives, and how you can use it as a powerful tool for focus, healing, and inner transformation.
Together, they show us that meditation is far more than sitting in silence, it’s a pathway to healing, clarity, and growth. Whether it’s rewiring the nervous system, reprogramming the mind, or unlocking creativity and resilience, this conversation demonstrates the many ways meditation can ground you in the present and while also opening you to what’s possible.
Whether you’re just beginning or returning with new intention, this episode is an invitation to reconnect with yourself. These insights remind us the practice isn’t about getting it “right,” but about consistency, curiosity, and compassion for yourself.
In this episode, you'll learn:
How to Reprogram Your Mind Through Meditation
How to Turn Elevated Emotions Into Healing
How to Build a Daily Meditation Routine That Sticks
How to Heal Your Body by Training Your Mind
Meditation isn’t about where you begin, it’s about the choice to begin at all. Each breath is a chance to return, reset, and remember the calm already within you. Wherever you are, restless, curious, or seeking clarity, meditation offers a doorway inward.
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Jay Shetty.
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What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
04:10 How Meditation Transforms Your Brain and Body
08:33 How Much Practice Do You Really Need?
14:39 There Is No Wrong Way to Meditate
18:30 How to Connect Deeply with Nature Through Meditation
22:17 Debunking the Biggest Myths About Meditation
24:21 What Is Active Meditation and How Does It Work?
28:45 Using Meditation to Elevate Your Everyday Life
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everyone, it's Jay Sheddy. Welcome back to the YouTube channel.
If you haven't subscribed yet, make sure you do so
that you never miss a video mindfulness. Meditation can reduce
quartisole levels by up to twenty five percent, decreasing stress
and inflammation. Long term meditators have brains that are on
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average seven point five years younger than non meditators. Meditation
can reduce the experience of pain by forty percent, which
is greater than morphine, which reduces pain by twenty five percent. Now,
I've been fortunate enough to practice meditation for nearly two decades.
It's a deep part of my practice. It's a part
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of my daily commitment. It's something I turn to for
greater self awareness, alignment and to really tap into my intuition.
But at the same time as knowing the benefits of meditation,
I also recognize it's something that a lot of people
struggle with. Most people today have heard of it, but
a lot of us don't know if we're doing it right.
We're judging ourselves, questioning ourselves. And maybe you've been wanting
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to try meditation but you don't know where to start. Well,
then this videos for you, or maybe you want to start,
but you're worried you're not going to be able to
shut off your mind. Well, this videos for you too,
Or maybe you're someone who's completely skeptical about meditation all together.
Research shows that meditation can actually reduce stress and anxiety,
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It can improve sleep, enhance brain function, and help with
emotional regulation. In my own time as a monk, I've
seen firsthand the power that meditation has over your reality.
And in this episode, we'll hear from top experts about
how anyone can harness that power for themselves to improve
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the quality of their lives. I think for so many
of us today, we're always on, always on the go,
we're always on the move, we're always on top of everything.
Meditation can be that reset, that break, that moment of
the day that is just for you. It's that schedule
time to give yourself a little bit of a break,
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to give yourself a little bit of a reset, and
to give yourself a moment of peace and calm. It's
something I know I turn to all throughout the day
just to get ready before a meeting, just before I
walk on stage, or just before I go to bed,
to make sure that I maximize and improve that moment
of my day, So let's get into it. The number
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one health and wellness podcast Stay Shed. In this first clip,
Dr Joe Dispenser shares data backed insights about how meditation
affects the brain and body and the incredible healing power
it can have. He explains that lasting transformation happens when
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you consistently train to shift your internal state with focus
and intention. Doctor Joe Dispenser shares how meditation helps shift
the body out of stress and survival mode and into
a state of healing, acting like your body's own medicine
by calming the mind, balancing emotions, and supporting physical recovery.
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He shares powerful stories of people reversing chronic health conditions
through consistent practice, proving that when you change your inner state,
you can actually influence your biology and immune system. Whether
you're feeling stuck in stress, burnt out, or emotionally overwhelmed.
Dr Joe Dispenser explains how even small, repeated moments of
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mindfulness can rewire the way you think, feel, and show
up each day. Change might not happen overnight, but that
doesn't mean it's not happening. Meditation helps you stay in motion,
create new patterns and build a new reality from the
inside out. Let's take a listen to what Dr Joe
Dispenza has to say.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
We've done the largest studies on meditation that have ever
been done, just because we have a community of eighteen
hundred people that come to an event that are going
to be getting up at the same time doing the
same thing, pretty much eating, making the same food choices
in pretty much a big laboratory, right, And so our
discoveries in working with eighteen hundred people in measuring brain waves,
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their brain function before and after the event, measuring their
gene expression before and after the event. We're measuring eight
and eighty two metabolites in their blood. We're measuring DNA expression,
We're measuring urine, we're measuring saliva, we're measuring the energy
of the room, We're measuring everything. And meditation in a
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sense that it's not in the traditional way. What we
do is we look at what really works, you know,
we're actually looking to say, well, that's something that we
can actually see it change in So we teach meditation
three ways to become familiar with your own self and
to become familiar with your new self. That's what the
word meditation means familiarization, to become familiar with so we
use that model for change. So slow your brain weighs
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down and get beyond your analytical mind is meditation, and
you teach your body how to do that. And we've
discovered a formula that simply makes it very easy for
people to do it. You practice it, you'll get good
at it, just like anything else you practice. So so
to get beyond the analytical mind, there's another way to
reprogram ourselves. And then meditation is really about getting beyond
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your body, or disconnecting from your body, disconnecting from your environment,
and forgetting about time. And that is that eye of
the needle where we begin to make the most significant changes.
So we're data driven, you know, we're really looking to
see what it is. And when we see brains respond
in the same way, it helps me enormously to teach
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the material better. And so the more people understand what
they're doing and the more they understand why they're doing it,
the more naturally the how becomes easier and nothing is
left to conjecture. If nothing is left to superstition or
dogma or even in spiritual you know, traditional words, New
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science says the contemporary language woul demystify that process, and
you give people numerous times to overcome themselves and numerous
times to connect. Sooner or later, you'll start watching transformation
right before your eyes. And so one of the cool
things that we've discovered is that we have so much
compelling data to suggest that you're greater than you think,
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more powerful than you know, more unlimited than you could
ever dream. We have compelling data to suggest that your
nervous system is the greatest pharmacist in the world, that
it makes drugs that work better than any drug in
a drug store. A drug study is about eighteen to
twenty five percent cause and effect causality. Our data is
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between seventy five in eighty five percent cause and effect.
This is a person creating their own pharmacy of anti inflammatories,
their own pharmacy of anti carcinogenic chemicals, their own pharmacy
of pain relievers, who are seeing this over and over again.
So we have this incredible data that says that this
is no longer pseudoscience, this is this is really science.
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The side effect of a person's transformation is has changed
my belief in what's possible. I have seen people stand
on the stage with stage four cancers that were in
every single organ in their body that metastasized, and they
have no sign of cancer in their body. And we
have data that suggests that you put the blood of
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an advanced meditator and an uterine cancer cell a pancreatic
cancer cell, seventy percent of the micro control function in
the cancer cells diminished the mitochondria stuff energy packet of
the cell. It's taking energy out of the cancer cell.
Works perfect with what we're seeing with the testimonials that
people are telling around the world. We've seen blind people
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see We've seen deaf people here. We've seen people with
spinal cord injuries walk again. We've seen als change, We've
seen all kinds of unbelievable health conditions change by a
person simply changing the way they think, the way they act,
and the way they feel.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
How long have you seen certain things lost?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Like how much does the practice have to continue daily
to sustain impact? Because I feel that you know, this
isn't as you know, isn't a one off thing, and
that isn't what you're encouraging. Like this is the experience
of when someone's coming to a retreat or an event.
They're having this incredible experience, But then do you measure
how people continue to practice?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
That's important.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah, it's super important for us, and of course we
have mounds of data. But let's see if I can
say this as clear as I possibly can. When a
person has that arousal where they're feeling that elevated emotion
and their eyes are closed, they're in a room with
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eighteen hundred people, there's music playing in the background. They're
not eating, they're not smelling, they're not tasting the moving
about and feeling on some level, they're having an inner experience.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
The body is so objective that it's literally believing it's
living in a new environment, and so that elevated emotion
somehow tends to drag the body right out of the
past into the present moment. So many people with everything
from exhama to muscular dystrophe, when they have those events,
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there's a biological change that takes place in their body
where they feel completely differently. Now, some people heal all
the way. Some people are out of their wheelchair and
they're walking again, but they're limping, and that doesn't mean
it's over. It just means they made contact where they
hit gold, and so there's varying.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Degrees that we see.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
We've seen people for seven years work on a terminal
health condition, to them seven years to heal that health condition.
Some people it takes two years, three years. Some people
they do it in three months. There's no predictable menu
that we can say it's this way. Now, when people
have those more profoundly aroused states, it seems like their
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change is much more immediate and much more permanent. But
for the most part, we see people's response pretty dramatic. Now,
it's also important to say that we have seen people
heal from terminal cancers stop feeling those elevated emotions and
return to responding to the circumstances and conditions in their life.
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And we turn back to the same personality, The same
personality is the same personal reality, and their bodies believing
it's living in that same environment, and they're feeling the
same way, and they're in the habit of acting the
same way and thinking the same way, and lo and behold,
the condition returns. We've seen people heal themselves of Parkinson's
disease more than once, have one response to some very
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serious event in their life. That produced a very strong emotion,
and in one hour their condition returned because they literally
went back to the world self. And we've seen that
person turn around and reverse the condition again again. People
do the best with what they think is available. The
person standing on the stage, who we've had numerous physicians
and researchers stand on the stage, they're the four minute mile.
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They're telling the community. I'm the example of truth. This
is no longer philosophy, this is no longer theory. Here's
my scans. We had someone with bilateral breast cancer just recently.
No evidence of cancer in our breasts or any lymph nodes,
no longer in our liver. I'm looking out at the
audience and everybody's leaning in. There's the formut a mile,
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and that person's telling the truth, and they're telling a story,
and it's not pretty. It's not always rosy. They went
through a lot of dark nights, they went through a
lot of their condition getting worse. But every day they
had to show up for themselves. If they stopped showing
up and doing the work, they would really not believe
it was possible. But if they showed up and did
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the work, it means that they believe it's possible. And
I think when you believe in possibility, you got to
believe in yourself. And you believe in yourself, you gotta
believe in possibilities. So it used to be a few
examples of that. Now we have so many great testimonials,
so many great stories that now people it's becoming infectious,
just like a virus or any bacteria becomes infectious. Now
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health and wellness becomes as infectious as disease. And you
get a community of people starting to break through. When
you start seeing these changes where people stand on the stage,
invariably you're going to see a very strong shift in consciousness.
And consciousness is awareness, and if you're unaware that you
could actually heal yourself, you'll make the same choice once
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you see it.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I think it.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Starts creating a brushfire, and that's really the exciting part.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
So we've seen so.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Many great testimonials that are undeniably great stories of transformation,
and many many of those people still no longer have
their exsimus, still no longer have their parkins, still no
longer have their cancer. Life is an experiment. So if
your personality creates your personal reality, and your personality is
made up of how you think, how you act, and
how you feel. If you keep thinking the same way,
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you keep acting the same way, you keep feeling the
same way, your life is going to stay the same
because you're the same. So the experiment is, okay, let
me begin to think differently. So I got to remind
myself how I do want to think, and I have
to remind myself of how I no longer want to think,
so I don't default and go unconscious. Let me remind
myself how I'm going to behave so that I could
actually get my behaviors to match my intentions, and let
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me remind myself of how I'm going to feel. If
I'm able to succeed in that day, then there should
be some change in my life. This is experiment, and
if it doesn't change, that doesn't mean the law doesn't
work for you. It's just you're not that good yet.
It just you just got to keep practicing.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
So the act of disconnecting from your life long enough
to remind yourself of who you do want to be
and who you no longer want to be. That experiment, then,
is the experiment called life.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Our next clip is from The Rapper Big Sean. Now,
if you answered my question earlier that you want to
start meditating, but you're worried you won't do it right,
this next clip is for you. Big Sean challenges the
idea that there's a right way to meditate, whether it's sound, healing,
a walk, or even a quiet What matters most is
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finding what works for you and showing up consistently. There's
no wrong way to meditate. The intention matters more than
the method. Over time, consistent meditation deepens the connection to
self and increase his impact. Big Sean describes his meditation
practice as a deeply spiritual experience, using visualization, energy work,
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and body awareness to realign himself. For him, it's not
just about stillness. It's how he sets the tone for productivity, creativity,
and emotional balance.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
That practice, I am is so much power. So I
am grateful, I am this, I am happy, I am confident.
I am happy that I get to sit down and
talk to my friend Jay today. You know, I'm happy
I get to whatever the case is right.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
So that's what I do.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
And then at the end of it, of the journal
of this, when I do the gratitude stuff, and there
are times where I write how I feel, not as much.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I also speak out loud by myself. You know. There
are a lot of processes I do.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
But when I do that journal, I sign it at
the at the bottom of it like a contract, and
I like, sometimes I put it is done, or I
put like, so be it because it's a declaration. When
I do that, and I sign it because it's that
important to me. I have to sign my contracts. I
have to sign things that will be upheld as an
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important thing. And that's how the level of importance even
more that I hold that too, So I sign it
every time.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
That is so good, man, I've heard that before. I'm
going to start doing that.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
It's powerful.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yeah, I've never signed it. That's done.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
It's powerful. And jad does everything I write down come
to fruition. No, sometimes it does, a lot of them do.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
And then I.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Realize that I'm also on God's time. So the things
that I've always wanted and things that I've desired may
not just be the right moment in my journey for that.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
But that's the beauty of it. Man.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
I'm like, I'm still here, I'm still able, I'm still inspired,
I'm still passionate, you.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Know, yeah, so that's how I that's how I do
my journaling.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
I also have like a there's a book I have
of like poetry too that I like write poems and stuff.
I've only I only write a few a year, honestly,
but like I'll like fully write and draw around the
poem and like it's really like a beautiful art.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
It's just some something I do for fun.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
I haven't actually I've only written one this year, and
last year I wrote a few, so maybe I maybe
inspired me to write one today.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
But that's kind of all it is.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
But I don't spend too much time on It takes
me about five to twelve minutes.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
That's great, max.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
And then I meditate after that because it's kind of
like it's kind of like a good transition to like
the energy is set for me to like to meditate,
because when I meditate, I feel like I'm attracting these
things more and giving myself the best shot of being
the most productive, the most impactful that I can be,
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you know. So that's kind of the first thing I
do when I wake up if I can being a dad,
though there are times where I get if you're woken
up and I have to go immediately, you know, and
so I come back to it later on. That's not
preferred that way, but it's a good trade off.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
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by kid. What about your meditation? What does your practice
look like?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
It depends. I love doing goid in meditation.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Sometimes I love doing I kind of have my own
process where I like and visualize the light of creation,
like the light of the sun, and it like really
filling my whole body up and literally everything that doesn't
align with that, anything that isn't that light and bright,
you know what I'm saying, immediately leaves my body and
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goes back into the earth. And like so you know,
there are times where I if I'm not in nature,
I imagine myself in nature and like things going back
into the earth, and I like surround myself. You know,
from my I forgot the word the esoteric body. I
think it's like one inch off of you, then your
emotional body, then your mental body, and like I just
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do the same thing. Like it's like a shower of light.
It's like hopping in the shower after you work out,
like but of light and whatever it is, I kind
of like cater to how I'm feeling. So from there,
I'll like if I have like somewhere on my stomach,
I'll like for some reason, I associate green with healing energy, right,
and this comes from years of like practice, or I
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associate royal blue with power, you know, the power of
the universe. I associate like red with the love of
the universe, the love and support of the universe, and
like I represent like the violet flame of Saint Germaine,
like to cleanse things that are holding me back, right,
So I do. I have like quite a process and
I break it down in a book and afterwards I
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feel just it really makes a big difference. And you know,
I read this book The Hidden Messages in Water, I
believe it's called, and it talked about, you know, there's
like itty bitty microscopic crystals in water. And they one
of the parts of the book they experiment of like
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how positively when you speak to water, like hey, you're amazing,
I love you, keep going like you're beautiful. And then
they had another water a glass or container of water
where they said, like you suck. It's never that, you know,
real negative And you look at the crystals and one
is like a beautiful snowflake looking crystal, and then the
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other one is like distorted and all damaged, and we
are seventy eighty percent water. So these things, when you
write these affirmations down, or when you say them out loud,
or when you journal, these things have a real effect
on you tremendously, Like scientifically, it's not even like a
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woo woo type of thing. It's not even like it's
not even up for debate, you know what I'm saying
it's literally scientific for the people who are more or
you know, need the proof as opposed to it, you know,
more analytical than like opinion based. So I just want
to stress the importance of it.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
It really is.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
And by the way, the most the most honorable people
that I've met and like what I consider to be
successful and I don't mean richest, I just mean successful
in like the impact what they're doing, how they.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Are they meditate.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
They are you know, from my favorite rappers down to
my favorite down to you, you know, down to anyone
who I just really admire and and and you can
meditate in your own ways. They're like, I know, like
Janey does different meditations, you know, through sound healing or
mirror meditations. I know people who do shower meditations, walking.
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There's no wrong way to meditate either. That's another misconception.
There's no wrong way to do it. The fact that
you take the intention out or if you focus on
your breathing, the fact that you take the time out
to be that conscious or yourself. Over time, you will
get more and more into it. It's like anything you
do and you will see the effects of it.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Next up, Michael Acton Smith, the founder of Calm reflects
on how much the perception of meditation has shifted.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
And I remember these days.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
It used to be met with a lot of doubt,
a lot of scrutiny, but now it's widely seen as
a practical, effective way to support your mental well being.
Early on, people thought meditation required robes or lengthy silence.
Now it's understood you can start with just one conscious
breath in a well designed to distract you. Focus is power.
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Meditation can help you improve your attention and reclaim the
power within you. When you're not aware of where your
attention goes, it's easy to slip into autopilot. Meditation can
help you stay present, avoid distractions, and make more intentional
choices with your time.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
In the early days, when we'd go to parties and
tell people we were building a meditation app, we'd get
one of two reactions. One is that they'd back away
from us and make any excuse to go and talk
to someone else. The second was that they'd be like, oh,
I've heard of that, I've tried it, but I can't
do it. You know, my mind is far too busy.
And it has been extraordinary how that has shifted over
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the last decade. Again, this is connected to mental health.
Do you remember how stigmatized it was. No one talked
about it. Could you imagine telling your boss you were
struggling with your mental health years ago. It wouldn't have
been a good move. And for most organizations now that
has changed dramatically. I think it was because people did
have so many misconceptions about meditation, that were so many
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myths associated with it. I think they thought it was
either religious or connected to the counterculture. They thought they
might have to dress up in robes, or go to
a different country, or sit for hours and hours in
an uncomfortable position, And we just wanted to let people
know that that is not true. You can literally start
with one mindful breath. If you don't have time to
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meditate for a minute or ten or longer, literally start
with one conscious, mindful breath and then build your practice
from there.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
In this next clip vision Lakiani, the founder of Mind Value,
shares how meditation has helped him heal physically and stay
grounded through life's ups and downs. His story is a
powerful reminder that meditation isn't just about calmness. It's about growth,
resilient and finding your center When life feels chaotic. Vision
(25:31):
shares how he used meditation to heal severe acne as
a teenager and how that experience sparked a lifelong fascination
with the mind body connection. Through the Silver Method, he
discovered active meditation, a structured form of inner work that
turns life's challenges into step by step problem solving opportunities.
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He explains the difference between daily meditations that keep you grounded,
like his six phase method, and more tactical techniques used
to solve specific issues. For Vision, meditation isn't about escaping problems.
It's about engaging with them directly and using your mind
to heal, grow, and create real world results. I think
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everyone can remember or has a distinct memory of their
first meditation experience. What was your first meditation experience ever?
Do you remember it like the first time you were
ever introduced to any form of meditation?
Speaker 7 (26:28):
So the first time it happened to me, I was
fourteen years old. I was a young kid in Malaysia,
and I decided to try a form of meditation that
I learned from a book called the Silver Method, a
really all nineteen sixties nineteen seventies book. Back then, I
was fourteen, so must have been like nineteen ninety. There
was no internet in Malaysia. We had four television channels,
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so really to pass the time by, all I did
was I would browse all of the books in my
father's bookshelf, and I discovered this book called the Silver Method. Now,
the book activated me because it spoke about how the
mind can heal the body. What was happening with me
back then is I was having a really horrible skin problem.
My face was covered in acne. I had very little confidence.
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I considered myself ugly. I had difficulty making friends at school.
You know, even if I liked a girl, I had
no confidence to even talk to her. And so when
I read in this book that the mind can heal
the skin, I was game on. I want to figure
this out. So I tried practicing. Nothing happened. I continued practicing.
Nothing happened, and there was very little results. But I
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read and re read and reread that book over and
over and over and over again. Then I started picking
other books, from Bob Procter, from A. Wayne Dyer. I
started reading these books. It became a passion, and slowly
things began to click. And one day applying the silver method.
At this point, I was seventeen years old. Things that
finally started clicking. I begin to understand it's not just
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about hoping and wanting your skin to heal. There was
a process, there was a method, There was a psycho ecology.
When it clicked, in five weeks, I completely healed my skin.
Five years of skin disease healed in five weeks. Today
science talk about this as a thing. It's called psychodematology,
how your mind influences your skin. But that was my
first evidence that we can use our minds to influence
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our bodies. Now, the next thing I did was I
decided to see can I use my mind to accomplish
a really big goal for me. That was qualifying for
the US Open Taekwondo Championships. Taekwondo is Korean karate. I
was really into it and I managed to qualify. My
first ever trip to the United States, which was my
dream land. Since I was like a kid, I wanted
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to go to America. My first ever trip was to
the US Open to represent my country. It was in
Colorado Springs in nineteen ninety three. My first time I
fell in love with America, but it became because I
visualized that in my mind and that was my beginning,
the beginning of my fascination with the human mind that
would later lead to me starting Mind Value and writing
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this book.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
That's amazing. I I love that story for so many reasons.
A Because, well, let me just break this down for everyone,
you had an intention that was very clear, even if
it was to save your skin or to impress a
girl or whatever it was, you were clear of why
you wanted to meditate. The second thing was you were
happy to read the book again and again and.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
Again again and again.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
And I think that takes a lot of resilience because
most of us, when we try something once and it
doesn't work, we give up. And the third thing is
you didn't just test on something small. Once you saw
a small result, you were like, well does this apply
to something bigger? And I think those three lessons in
and of themselves are so powerful. What has changed in
the benefits to you of meditation today? At that time,
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it was solving your skin, it was getting focused around
the Taekwondo championships. How do you view meditation like? What
is its use in your life today? Because I feel
like so many people keep telling us to meditate, and
there's so many benefits, but for you personally, what's the reason.
Speaker 7 (29:54):
So I grew up in a Hindu family in Malaysia,
meditation was never what I was thought. The style of
Hinduism I was thought was very dogmatic. You had prayers,
you had chance, you had mantras, and I found it,
Oh God, so boring and irritating. I hated being dragged
to temple to listen to a pre speak in Sanskrit,
a language I didn't even understand. So when I was nineteen,
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I gave up Hinduism. I decided the religion was not
for me. I read a quote by Gandhi that said,
I'm a Hindu, and I'm a Muslim, and I'm a Christian,
and I'm a Jew and I'm a Buddhist, and I
thought that's it. I want to study and unite ideas
from all of these different spiritual practices, and so that
was my beginning. I got obsessed with spirituality. I started
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reading books by Esther Hicks, by Neil Donald Walsh, and
I became particularly captivated by the spirituality that was emerging
from the United States from everyone from Paramahansa Yogananda, who
was an Indian who crossed over over here to Neil
Donald Walsh too, especially Jose Silva. Now, a lot of
them spoke about spirituality. What made Jose Silva's work different
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was that he broke it down into actionable steps, and
that's what fascinated me most. So a lot of people
spoke about meditation, about sitting still, about going within. Jose
Silva would teach the method you're gonna do, this method
to reduce your brainwave frequency to the alpha level, this
method together down to the data level, this method of
positioning your eyes to activate alpha frequency in your brain,
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this method to reprogram your subconscious, this method to manifest
a goal, this method to do healing, and that structured
approach captivated me. Now we call that active meditation. That's
the word Jose Silva use or show use the same
word active meditation. This means it's different from passive meditation,
which was more than meditation from Hinduism, from Eastern cultures,
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where you focus on your breath or you go within,
and there's a usefulness in that. But what I loved
about active meditation is, in the words of Jose Silva,
you use it to solve problems. You do not push
your problems away. You turn your problems into a project.
You have skin disease, You're gonna heal it to achieve
a business goal. You're going to make it happen. And
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you would apply different tools to solve these problems. Now,
when I was in Silicon Valley, I applied the Silver
Method and it completely transformed my career. I was able
to hold down two jobs. I got promotion after promotion
after promotion. At the age of twenty six, I was
vice president of a booming dot com and I was
meditating using the Silver Method and other practices I would
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combine with it, and one day I certainly had a calling.
I realized that meditation was the most powerful thing I'd
learned in life. It was the reason why I was
successful at my career. Yet my university degree, for which
I paid almost a quarter million dollars for, taught me
jack it wasn't really helping me. So I decided I
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wanted to do something that could help the world. I
decided to quit and become a meditation teacher. Now, as
I started becoming a meditation teachers, I started compiling all
of these methods. I needed something for myself and I
look at meditation from as a two. Okay, so a
lot of people say, all right, meditation is a form
of self awareness of prayer. Yes, yes, yes, But meditation
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is also a tool. The point of meditation, in the
words of the great teacher Emily Fletcher, is not to
get good at meditation. It is to get good at life.
And so I use two different types of tools. Now
let's think about our home. We have coffee makers and
we have electric drills. We use a coffee maker every
single day or a teakettle every single day to put
ourselves in a good state to start our morning. An
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electric drill is a power tool. You don't use it
every day. You use it when you have a problem,
when you have to drill a hole in a wall
or threaten someone. I guess. So in meditation, the style
that I teach, there are two types. You would use
a power tool, like the Silver method, which now sits
on Mine Valley for a really tactical problem, for example
healing right. The Silver method has been proven by doctor
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Okyle Simonton as a very effective form of imagery therapy
for accelerating healing. You're sick, you want to do it
if you are suddenly feeling like you have a mica.
You want to use it to help reduce your migraine.
The six phase is what I developed as not the
electric drill, but the coffee maker, something you use every
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single day, even if your life is amazing. You use
it every single day because it helps put you in
a peak state for work, for happiness, for human connection,
and it puts you in this beautiful state where it
almost feels as if the universe has your back like
you have, you know, the tinker Bell ferry following you around,
blessing everything you do and making your life magical. This
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is how I view meditation. It's an active approach to
tackle the most complex problems in life, but also as
a daily approach to put you in peak states of humanness.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
This is why I love talking to you, because I
love that explanation, and I think that that breakdown of
how meditation can be used differently for different challenges is fantastic.
And I love the analogy with that with the tea
kettle we'll go with and the drill, because I do
think you're right that we've made meditation. What you just
said is about becoming good at meditation, which is absolutely
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irrelevant to life. I hope this episode serves as a
reminder that there's no single way to meditate and no
perfect practice. What matters is that you start. Whether it's
to heal, focus a line, or simply breathe, meditation is
a tool that can meet you wherever you are in life. Remember,
the goal isn't to get good at meditation. The goal
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is to improve your life. So whatever form works for you,
a guided practice, a moment of stillness, or a walk
in nature. I hope this episode inspires you to make
it your own. And if you've ever told yourself I'm
not the meditation type, I hope this conversation helps you.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Realize you already are. You just have to begin.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
If you love this episode, you will also love my
interview with Dohig on how to hack your brain, change
any habit effortlessly, and the secret to making better decisions.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Look, am I hesitating on this because I'm scared of
making the choice because I'm scared of doing the work,
Or am I sitting with this because it just doesn't
feel right yet
Hey everyone, it's Jay Sheddy. Welcome back to the YouTube channel.
If you haven't subscribed yet, make sure you do so
that you never miss a video mindfulness. Meditation can reduce
quartisole levels by up to twenty five percent, decreasing stress
and inflammation. Long term meditators have brains that are on
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average seven point five years younger than non meditators. Meditation
can reduce the experience of pain by forty percent, which
is greater than morphine, which reduces pain by twenty five percent. Now,
I've been fortunate enough to practice meditation for nearly two decades.
It's a deep part of my practice. It's a part
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of my daily commitment. It's something I turn to for
greater self awareness, alignment and to really tap into my intuition.
But at the same time as knowing the benefits of meditation,
I also recognize it's something that a lot of people
struggle with. Most people today have heard of it, but
a lot of us don't know if we're doing it right.
We're judging ourselves, questioning ourselves. And maybe you've been wanting
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to try meditation but you don't know where to start. Well,
then this videos for you, or maybe you want to start,
but you're worried you're not going to be able to
shut off your mind. Well, this videos for you too,
Or maybe you're someone who's completely skeptical about meditation all together.
Research shows that meditation can actually reduce stress and anxiety,
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It can improve sleep, enhance brain function, and help with
emotional regulation. In my own time as a monk, I've
seen firsthand the power that meditation has over your reality.
And in this episode, we'll hear from top experts about
how anyone can harness that power for themselves to improve
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the quality of their lives. I think for so many
of us today, we're always on, always on the go,
we're always on the move, we're always on top of everything.
Meditation can be that reset, that break, that moment of
the day that is just for you. It's that schedule
time to give yourself a little bit of a break,
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to give yourself a little bit of a reset, and
to give yourself a moment of peace and calm. It's
something I know I turn to all throughout the day
just to get ready before a meeting, just before I
walk on stage, or just before I go to bed,
to make sure that I maximize and improve that moment
of my day, So let's get into it. The number
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one health and wellness podcast Stay Shed. In this first clip,
Dr Joe Dispenser shares data backed insights about how meditation
affects the brain and body and the incredible healing power
it can have. He explains that lasting transformation happens when
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you consistently train to shift your internal state with focus
and intention. Doctor Joe Dispenser shares how meditation helps shift
the body out of stress and survival mode and into
a state of healing, acting like your body's own medicine
by calming the mind, balancing emotions, and supporting physical recovery.
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He shares powerful stories of people reversing chronic health conditions
through consistent practice, proving that when you change your inner state,
you can actually influence your biology and immune system. Whether
you're feeling stuck in stress, burnt out, or emotionally overwhelmed.
Dr Joe Dispenser explains how even small, repeated moments of
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mindfulness can rewire the way you think, feel, and show
up each day. Change might not happen overnight, but that
doesn't mean it's not happening. Meditation helps you stay in motion,
create new patterns and build a new reality from the
inside out. Let's take a listen to what Dr Joe
Dispenza has to say.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
We've done the largest studies on meditation that have ever
been done, just because we have a community of eighteen
hundred people that come to an event that are going
to be getting up at the same time doing the
same thing, pretty much eating, making the same food choices
in pretty much a big laboratory, right, And so our
discoveries in working with eighteen hundred people in measuring brain waves,
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their brain function before and after the event, measuring their
gene expression before and after the event. We're measuring eight
and eighty two metabolites in their blood. We're measuring DNA expression,
We're measuring urine, we're measuring saliva, we're measuring the energy
of the room, We're measuring everything. And meditation in a
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sense that it's not in the traditional way. What we
do is we look at what really works, you know,
we're actually looking to say, well, that's something that we
can actually see it change in So we teach meditation
three ways to become familiar with your own self and
to become familiar with your new self. That's what the
word meditation means familiarization, to become familiar with so we
use that model for change. So slow your brain weighs
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down and get beyond your analytical mind is meditation, and
you teach your body how to do that. And we've
discovered a formula that simply makes it very easy for
people to do it. You practice it, you'll get good
at it, just like anything else you practice. So so
to get beyond the analytical mind, there's another way to
reprogram ourselves. And then meditation is really about getting beyond
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your body, or disconnecting from your body, disconnecting from your environment,
and forgetting about time. And that is that eye of
the needle where we begin to make the most significant changes.
So we're data driven, you know, we're really looking to
see what it is. And when we see brains respond
in the same way, it helps me enormously to teach
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the material better. And so the more people understand what
they're doing and the more they understand why they're doing it,
the more naturally the how becomes easier and nothing is
left to conjecture. If nothing is left to superstition or
dogma or even in spiritual you know, traditional words, New
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science says the contemporary language woul demystify that process, and
you give people numerous times to overcome themselves and numerous
times to connect. Sooner or later, you'll start watching transformation
right before your eyes. And so one of the cool
things that we've discovered is that we have so much
compelling data to suggest that you're greater than you think,
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more powerful than you know, more unlimited than you could
ever dream. We have compelling data to suggest that your
nervous system is the greatest pharmacist in the world, that
it makes drugs that work better than any drug in
a drug store. A drug study is about eighteen to
twenty five percent cause and effect causality. Our data is
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between seventy five in eighty five percent cause and effect.
This is a person creating their own pharmacy of anti inflammatories,
their own pharmacy of anti carcinogenic chemicals, their own pharmacy
of pain relievers, who are seeing this over and over again.
So we have this incredible data that says that this
is no longer pseudoscience, this is this is really science.
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The side effect of a person's transformation is has changed
my belief in what's possible. I have seen people stand
on the stage with stage four cancers that were in
every single organ in their body that metastasized, and they
have no sign of cancer in their body. And we
have data that suggests that you put the blood of
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an advanced meditator and an uterine cancer cell a pancreatic
cancer cell, seventy percent of the micro control function in
the cancer cells diminished the mitochondria stuff energy packet of
the cell. It's taking energy out of the cancer cell.
Works perfect with what we're seeing with the testimonials that
people are telling around the world. We've seen blind people
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see We've seen deaf people here. We've seen people with
spinal cord injuries walk again. We've seen als change, We've
seen all kinds of unbelievable health conditions change by a
person simply changing the way they think, the way they act,
and the way they feel.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
How long have you seen certain things lost?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Like how much does the practice have to continue daily
to sustain impact? Because I feel that you know, this
isn't as you know, isn't a one off thing, and
that isn't what you're encouraging. Like this is the experience
of when someone's coming to a retreat or an event.
They're having this incredible experience, But then do you measure
how people continue to practice?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
That's important.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah, it's super important for us, and of course we
have mounds of data. But let's see if I can
say this as clear as I possibly can. When a
person has that arousal where they're feeling that elevated emotion
and their eyes are closed, they're in a room with
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eighteen hundred people, there's music playing in the background. They're
not eating, they're not smelling, they're not tasting the moving
about and feeling on some level, they're having an inner experience.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
The body is so objective that it's literally believing it's
living in a new environment, and so that elevated emotion
somehow tends to drag the body right out of the
past into the present moment. So many people with everything
from exhama to muscular dystrophe, when they have those events,
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there's a biological change that takes place in their body
where they feel completely differently. Now, some people heal all
the way. Some people are out of their wheelchair and
they're walking again, but they're limping, and that doesn't mean
it's over. It just means they made contact where they
hit gold, and so there's varying.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Degrees that we see.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
We've seen people for seven years work on a terminal
health condition, to them seven years to heal that health condition.
Some people it takes two years, three years. Some people
they do it in three months. There's no predictable menu
that we can say it's this way. Now, when people
have those more profoundly aroused states, it seems like their
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change is much more immediate and much more permanent. But
for the most part, we see people's response pretty dramatic. Now,
it's also important to say that we have seen people
heal from terminal cancers stop feeling those elevated emotions and
return to responding to the circumstances and conditions in their life.
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And we turn back to the same personality, The same
personality is the same personal reality, and their bodies believing
it's living in that same environment, and they're feeling the
same way, and they're in the habit of acting the
same way and thinking the same way, and lo and behold,
the condition returns. We've seen people heal themselves of Parkinson's
disease more than once, have one response to some very
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serious event in their life. That produced a very strong emotion,
and in one hour their condition returned because they literally
went back to the world self. And we've seen that
person turn around and reverse the condition again again. People
do the best with what they think is available. The
person standing on the stage, who we've had numerous physicians
and researchers stand on the stage, they're the four minute mile.
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They're telling the community. I'm the example of truth. This
is no longer philosophy, this is no longer theory. Here's
my scans. We had someone with bilateral breast cancer just recently.
No evidence of cancer in our breasts or any lymph nodes,
no longer in our liver. I'm looking out at the
audience and everybody's leaning in. There's the formut a mile,
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and that person's telling the truth, and they're telling a story,
and it's not pretty. It's not always rosy. They went
through a lot of dark nights, they went through a
lot of their condition getting worse. But every day they
had to show up for themselves. If they stopped showing
up and doing the work, they would really not believe
it was possible. But if they showed up and did
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the work, it means that they believe it's possible. And
I think when you believe in possibility, you got to
believe in yourself. And you believe in yourself, you gotta
believe in possibilities. So it used to be a few
examples of that. Now we have so many great testimonials,
so many great stories that now people it's becoming infectious,
just like a virus or any bacteria becomes infectious. Now
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health and wellness becomes as infectious as disease. And you
get a community of people starting to break through. When
you start seeing these changes where people stand on the stage,
invariably you're going to see a very strong shift in consciousness.
And consciousness is awareness, and if you're unaware that you
could actually heal yourself, you'll make the same choice once
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you see it.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I think it.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Starts creating a brushfire, and that's really the exciting part.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
So we've seen so.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Many great testimonials that are undeniably great stories of transformation,
and many many of those people still no longer have
their exsimus, still no longer have their parkins, still no
longer have their cancer. Life is an experiment. So if
your personality creates your personal reality, and your personality is
made up of how you think, how you act, and
how you feel. If you keep thinking the same way,
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you keep acting the same way, you keep feeling the
same way, your life is going to stay the same
because you're the same. So the experiment is, okay, let
me begin to think differently. So I got to remind
myself how I do want to think, and I have
to remind myself of how I no longer want to think,
so I don't default and go unconscious. Let me remind
myself how I'm going to behave so that I could
actually get my behaviors to match my intentions, and let
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me remind myself of how I'm going to feel. If
I'm able to succeed in that day, then there should
be some change in my life. This is experiment, and
if it doesn't change, that doesn't mean the law doesn't
work for you. It's just you're not that good yet.
It just you just got to keep practicing.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
So the act of disconnecting from your life long enough
to remind yourself of who you do want to be
and who you no longer want to be. That experiment, then,
is the experiment called life.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Our next clip is from The Rapper Big Sean. Now,
if you answered my question earlier that you want to
start meditating, but you're worried you won't do it right,
this next clip is for you. Big Sean challenges the
idea that there's a right way to meditate, whether it's sound, healing,
a walk, or even a quiet What matters most is
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finding what works for you and showing up consistently. There's
no wrong way to meditate. The intention matters more than
the method. Over time, consistent meditation deepens the connection to
self and increase his impact. Big Sean describes his meditation
practice as a deeply spiritual experience, using visualization, energy work,
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and body awareness to realign himself. For him, it's not
just about stillness. It's how he sets the tone for productivity, creativity,
and emotional balance.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
That practice, I am is so much power. So I
am grateful, I am this, I am happy, I am confident.
I am happy that I get to sit down and
talk to my friend Jay today. You know, I'm happy
I get to whatever the case is right.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
So that's what I do.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
And then at the end of it, of the journal
of this, when I do the gratitude stuff, and there
are times where I write how I feel, not as much.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I also speak out loud by myself. You know. There
are a lot of processes I do.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
But when I do that journal, I sign it at
the at the bottom of it like a contract, and
I like, sometimes I put it is done, or I
put like, so be it because it's a declaration. When
I do that, and I sign it because it's that
important to me. I have to sign my contracts. I
have to sign things that will be upheld as an
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important thing. And that's how the level of importance even
more that I hold that too, So I sign it
every time.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
That is so good, man, I've heard that before. I'm
going to start doing that.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
It's powerful.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yeah, I've never signed it. That's done.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
It's powerful. And jad does everything I write down come
to fruition. No, sometimes it does, a lot of them do.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
And then I.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Realize that I'm also on God's time. So the things
that I've always wanted and things that I've desired may
not just be the right moment in my journey for that.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
But that's the beauty of it. Man.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
I'm like, I'm still here, I'm still able, I'm still inspired,
I'm still passionate, you.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Know, yeah, so that's how I that's how I do
my journaling.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
I also have like a there's a book I have
of like poetry too that I like write poems and stuff.
I've only I only write a few a year, honestly,
but like I'll like fully write and draw around the
poem and like it's really like a beautiful art.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
It's just some something I do for fun.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
I haven't actually I've only written one this year, and
last year I wrote a few, so maybe I maybe
inspired me to write one today.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
But that's kind of all it is.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
But I don't spend too much time on It takes
me about five to twelve minutes.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
That's great, max.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
And then I meditate after that because it's kind of
like it's kind of like a good transition to like
the energy is set for me to like to meditate,
because when I meditate, I feel like I'm attracting these
things more and giving myself the best shot of being
the most productive, the most impactful that I can be,
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you know. So that's kind of the first thing I
do when I wake up if I can being a dad,
though there are times where I get if you're woken
up and I have to go immediately, you know, and
so I come back to it later on. That's not
preferred that way, but it's a good trade off.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
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by kid. What about your meditation? What does your practice
look like?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
It depends. I love doing goid in meditation.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Sometimes I love doing I kind of have my own
process where I like and visualize the light of creation,
like the light of the sun, and it like really
filling my whole body up and literally everything that doesn't
align with that, anything that isn't that light and bright,
you know what I'm saying, immediately leaves my body and
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goes back into the earth. And like so you know,
there are times where I if I'm not in nature,
I imagine myself in nature and like things going back
into the earth, and I like surround myself. You know,
from my I forgot the word the esoteric body. I
think it's like one inch off of you, then your
emotional body, then your mental body, and like I just
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do the same thing. Like it's like a shower of light.
It's like hopping in the shower after you work out,
like but of light and whatever it is, I kind
of like cater to how I'm feeling. So from there,
I'll like if I have like somewhere on my stomach,
I'll like for some reason, I associate green with healing energy, right,
and this comes from years of like practice, or I
(20:27):
associate royal blue with power, you know, the power of
the universe. I associate like red with the love of
the universe, the love and support of the universe, and
like I represent like the violet flame of Saint Germaine,
like to cleanse things that are holding me back, right,
So I do. I have like quite a process and
I break it down in a book and afterwards I
(20:50):
feel just it really makes a big difference. And you know,
I read this book The Hidden Messages in Water, I
believe it's called, and it talked about, you know, there's
like itty bitty microscopic crystals in water. And they one
of the parts of the book they experiment of like
(21:11):
how positively when you speak to water, like hey, you're amazing,
I love you, keep going like you're beautiful. And then
they had another water a glass or container of water
where they said, like you suck. It's never that, you know,
real negative And you look at the crystals and one
is like a beautiful snowflake looking crystal, and then the
(21:32):
other one is like distorted and all damaged, and we
are seventy eighty percent water. So these things, when you
write these affirmations down, or when you say them out loud,
or when you journal, these things have a real effect
on you tremendously, Like scientifically, it's not even like a
(21:52):
woo woo type of thing. It's not even like it's
not even up for debate, you know what I'm saying
it's literally scientific for the people who are more or
you know, need the proof as opposed to it, you know,
more analytical than like opinion based. So I just want
to stress the importance of it.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
It really is.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
And by the way, the most the most honorable people
that I've met and like what I consider to be
successful and I don't mean richest, I just mean successful
in like the impact what they're doing, how they.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Are they meditate.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
They are you know, from my favorite rappers down to
my favorite down to you, you know, down to anyone
who I just really admire and and and you can
meditate in your own ways. They're like, I know, like
Janey does different meditations, you know, through sound healing or
mirror meditations. I know people who do shower meditations, walking.
(22:47):
There's no wrong way to meditate either. That's another misconception.
There's no wrong way to do it. The fact that
you take the intention out or if you focus on
your breathing, the fact that you take the time out
to be that conscious or yourself. Over time, you will
get more and more into it. It's like anything you
do and you will see the effects of it.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Next up, Michael Acton Smith, the founder of Calm reflects
on how much the perception of meditation has shifted.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
And I remember these days.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
It used to be met with a lot of doubt,
a lot of scrutiny, but now it's widely seen as
a practical, effective way to support your mental well being.
Early on, people thought meditation required robes or lengthy silence.
Now it's understood you can start with just one conscious
breath in a well designed to distract you. Focus is power.
(23:39):
Meditation can help you improve your attention and reclaim the
power within you. When you're not aware of where your
attention goes, it's easy to slip into autopilot. Meditation can
help you stay present, avoid distractions, and make more intentional
choices with your time.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
In the early days, when we'd go to parties and
tell people we were building a meditation app, we'd get
one of two reactions. One is that they'd back away
from us and make any excuse to go and talk
to someone else. The second was that they'd be like, oh,
I've heard of that, I've tried it, but I can't
do it. You know, my mind is far too busy.
And it has been extraordinary how that has shifted over
(24:18):
the last decade. Again, this is connected to mental health.
Do you remember how stigmatized it was. No one talked
about it. Could you imagine telling your boss you were
struggling with your mental health years ago. It wouldn't have
been a good move. And for most organizations now that
has changed dramatically. I think it was because people did
have so many misconceptions about meditation, that were so many
(24:39):
myths associated with it. I think they thought it was
either religious or connected to the counterculture. They thought they
might have to dress up in robes, or go to
a different country, or sit for hours and hours in
an uncomfortable position, And we just wanted to let people
know that that is not true. You can literally start
with one mindful breath. If you don't have time to
(25:01):
meditate for a minute or ten or longer, literally start
with one conscious, mindful breath and then build your practice
from there.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
In this next clip vision Lakiani, the founder of Mind Value,
shares how meditation has helped him heal physically and stay
grounded through life's ups and downs. His story is a
powerful reminder that meditation isn't just about calmness. It's about growth,
resilient and finding your center When life feels chaotic. Vision
(25:31):
shares how he used meditation to heal severe acne as
a teenager and how that experience sparked a lifelong fascination
with the mind body connection. Through the Silver Method, he
discovered active meditation, a structured form of inner work that
turns life's challenges into step by step problem solving opportunities.
(25:53):
He explains the difference between daily meditations that keep you grounded,
like his six phase method, and more tactical techniques used
to solve specific issues. For Vision, meditation isn't about escaping problems.
It's about engaging with them directly and using your mind
to heal, grow, and create real world results. I think
(26:16):
everyone can remember or has a distinct memory of their
first meditation experience. What was your first meditation experience ever?
Do you remember it like the first time you were
ever introduced to any form of meditation?
Speaker 7 (26:28):
So the first time it happened to me, I was
fourteen years old. I was a young kid in Malaysia,
and I decided to try a form of meditation that
I learned from a book called the Silver Method, a
really all nineteen sixties nineteen seventies book. Back then, I
was fourteen, so must have been like nineteen ninety. There
was no internet in Malaysia. We had four television channels,
(26:51):
so really to pass the time by, all I did
was I would browse all of the books in my
father's bookshelf, and I discovered this book called the Silver Method. Now,
the book activated me because it spoke about how the
mind can heal the body. What was happening with me
back then is I was having a really horrible skin problem.
My face was covered in acne. I had very little confidence.
(27:11):
I considered myself ugly. I had difficulty making friends at school.
You know, even if I liked a girl, I had
no confidence to even talk to her. And so when
I read in this book that the mind can heal
the skin, I was game on. I want to figure
this out. So I tried practicing. Nothing happened. I continued practicing.
Nothing happened, and there was very little results. But I
(27:33):
read and re read and reread that book over and
over and over and over again. Then I started picking
other books, from Bob Procter, from A. Wayne Dyer. I
started reading these books. It became a passion, and slowly
things began to click. And one day applying the silver method.
At this point, I was seventeen years old. Things that
finally started clicking. I begin to understand it's not just
(27:55):
about hoping and wanting your skin to heal. There was
a process, there was a method, There was a psycho ecology.
When it clicked, in five weeks, I completely healed my skin.
Five years of skin disease healed in five weeks. Today
science talk about this as a thing. It's called psychodematology,
how your mind influences your skin. But that was my
first evidence that we can use our minds to influence
(28:16):
our bodies. Now, the next thing I did was I
decided to see can I use my mind to accomplish
a really big goal for me. That was qualifying for
the US Open Taekwondo Championships. Taekwondo is Korean karate. I
was really into it and I managed to qualify. My
first ever trip to the United States, which was my
dream land. Since I was like a kid, I wanted
(28:37):
to go to America. My first ever trip was to
the US Open to represent my country. It was in
Colorado Springs in nineteen ninety three. My first time I
fell in love with America, but it became because I
visualized that in my mind and that was my beginning,
the beginning of my fascination with the human mind that
would later lead to me starting Mind Value and writing
(28:57):
this book.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
That's amazing. I I love that story for so many reasons.
A Because, well, let me just break this down for everyone,
you had an intention that was very clear, even if
it was to save your skin or to impress a
girl or whatever it was, you were clear of why
you wanted to meditate. The second thing was you were
happy to read the book again and again and.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
Again again and again.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
And I think that takes a lot of resilience because
most of us, when we try something once and it
doesn't work, we give up. And the third thing is
you didn't just test on something small. Once you saw
a small result, you were like, well does this apply
to something bigger? And I think those three lessons in
and of themselves are so powerful. What has changed in
the benefits to you of meditation today? At that time,
(29:39):
it was solving your skin, it was getting focused around
the Taekwondo championships. How do you view meditation like? What
is its use in your life today? Because I feel
like so many people keep telling us to meditate, and
there's so many benefits, but for you personally, what's the reason.
Speaker 7 (29:54):
So I grew up in a Hindu family in Malaysia,
meditation was never what I was thought. The style of
Hinduism I was thought was very dogmatic. You had prayers,
you had chance, you had mantras, and I found it,
Oh God, so boring and irritating. I hated being dragged
to temple to listen to a pre speak in Sanskrit,
a language I didn't even understand. So when I was nineteen,
(30:16):
I gave up Hinduism. I decided the religion was not
for me. I read a quote by Gandhi that said,
I'm a Hindu, and I'm a Muslim, and I'm a Christian,
and I'm a Jew and I'm a Buddhist, and I
thought that's it. I want to study and unite ideas
from all of these different spiritual practices, and so that
was my beginning. I got obsessed with spirituality. I started
(30:37):
reading books by Esther Hicks, by Neil Donald Walsh, and
I became particularly captivated by the spirituality that was emerging
from the United States from everyone from Paramahansa Yogananda, who
was an Indian who crossed over over here to Neil
Donald Walsh too, especially Jose Silva. Now, a lot of
them spoke about spirituality. What made Jose Silva's work different
(30:59):
was that he broke it down into actionable steps, and
that's what fascinated me most. So a lot of people
spoke about meditation, about sitting still, about going within. Jose
Silva would teach the method you're gonna do, this method
to reduce your brainwave frequency to the alpha level, this
method together down to the data level, this method of
positioning your eyes to activate alpha frequency in your brain,
(31:20):
this method to reprogram your subconscious, this method to manifest
a goal, this method to do healing, and that structured
approach captivated me. Now we call that active meditation. That's
the word Jose Silva use or show use the same
word active meditation. This means it's different from passive meditation,
which was more than meditation from Hinduism, from Eastern cultures,
(31:42):
where you focus on your breath or you go within,
and there's a usefulness in that. But what I loved
about active meditation is, in the words of Jose Silva,
you use it to solve problems. You do not push
your problems away. You turn your problems into a project.
You have skin disease, You're gonna heal it to achieve
a business goal. You're going to make it happen. And
(32:03):
you would apply different tools to solve these problems. Now,
when I was in Silicon Valley, I applied the Silver
Method and it completely transformed my career. I was able
to hold down two jobs. I got promotion after promotion
after promotion. At the age of twenty six, I was
vice president of a booming dot com and I was
meditating using the Silver Method and other practices I would
(32:24):
combine with it, and one day I certainly had a calling.
I realized that meditation was the most powerful thing I'd
learned in life. It was the reason why I was
successful at my career. Yet my university degree, for which
I paid almost a quarter million dollars for, taught me
jack it wasn't really helping me. So I decided I
(32:46):
wanted to do something that could help the world. I
decided to quit and become a meditation teacher. Now, as
I started becoming a meditation teachers, I started compiling all
of these methods. I needed something for myself and I
look at meditation from as a two. Okay, so a
lot of people say, all right, meditation is a form
of self awareness of prayer. Yes, yes, yes, But meditation
(33:06):
is also a tool. The point of meditation, in the
words of the great teacher Emily Fletcher, is not to
get good at meditation. It is to get good at life.
And so I use two different types of tools. Now
let's think about our home. We have coffee makers and
we have electric drills. We use a coffee maker every
single day or a teakettle every single day to put
ourselves in a good state to start our morning. An
(33:28):
electric drill is a power tool. You don't use it
every day. You use it when you have a problem,
when you have to drill a hole in a wall
or threaten someone. I guess. So in meditation, the style
that I teach, there are two types. You would use
a power tool, like the Silver method, which now sits
on Mine Valley for a really tactical problem, for example
healing right. The Silver method has been proven by doctor
(33:50):
Okyle Simonton as a very effective form of imagery therapy
for accelerating healing. You're sick, you want to do it
if you are suddenly feeling like you have a mica.
You want to use it to help reduce your migraine.
The six phase is what I developed as not the
electric drill, but the coffee maker, something you use every
(34:10):
single day, even if your life is amazing. You use
it every single day because it helps put you in
a peak state for work, for happiness, for human connection,
and it puts you in this beautiful state where it
almost feels as if the universe has your back like
you have, you know, the tinker Bell ferry following you around,
blessing everything you do and making your life magical. This
(34:32):
is how I view meditation. It's an active approach to
tackle the most complex problems in life, but also as
a daily approach to put you in peak states of humanness.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
This is why I love talking to you, because I
love that explanation, and I think that that breakdown of
how meditation can be used differently for different challenges is fantastic.
And I love the analogy with that with the tea
kettle we'll go with and the drill, because I do
think you're right that we've made meditation. What you just
said is about becoming good at meditation, which is absolutely
(35:09):
irrelevant to life. I hope this episode serves as a
reminder that there's no single way to meditate and no
perfect practice. What matters is that you start. Whether it's
to heal, focus a line, or simply breathe, meditation is
a tool that can meet you wherever you are in life. Remember,
the goal isn't to get good at meditation. The goal
(35:33):
is to improve your life. So whatever form works for you,
a guided practice, a moment of stillness, or a walk
in nature. I hope this episode inspires you to make
it your own. And if you've ever told yourself I'm
not the meditation type, I hope this conversation helps you.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Realize you already are. You just have to begin.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
If you love this episode, you will also love my
interview with Dohig on how to hack your brain, change
any habit effortlessly, and the secret to making better decisions.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Look, am I hesitating on this because I'm scared of
making the choice because I'm scared of doing the work,
Or am I sitting with this because it just doesn't
feel right yet
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Jay Shetty
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