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September 12, 2022 57 mins

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Today, I sit down with the one and only Kendall Jenner. Kendall is a successful business founder, international supermodel, founder of the incredibly successful tequila brand, 818, and star on the Hulu’s, the Kardashians, which premieres in its second season on September 22nd. 

Kendal shows us a different side of her as she shares how her curiosity for people with brilliant minds and doing so much to give back to the world has eventually led to this interview. Behind the glamor and spotlight, she especially enjoys having some time alone with herself, and she values the importance of setting boundaries and why we should do things that lead to genuine happiness. We talk about her childhood and her love for animals, how the simple things give her the most joys, getting through grief after losing a dear friend, and finding the heart to be more kind to your inner child.

Kendall remains grounded and in tune with her inner goddess and is not allowing negativity and ill intentions change who she is, who she may become, and the purpose she is living by.  

What We Discuss:

  • 00:00:00 Intro
  • 00:00:26 “I think I manifested this interview…”
  • 00:09:53 “I grew up in a horse community.”
  • 00:15:42 Craving the simple things
  • 00:18:51 Setting boundaries for yourself
  • 00:21:46 Putting yourself first
  • 00:27:15 It’s important to be happy
  • 00:28:51 Reassuring yourself of who you really are
  • 00:33:06 Sometimes, family can be overwhelming
  • 00:35:54 Losing a dear friend
  • 00:40:53 Finding a new purpose
  • 00:45:38 Stop being mean to your inner child
  • 00:50:24 Kendall on Final Five

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If your happiness depends on the actions of others, you know,
you're at mercy of things that you can't control. Yeah,
I'm not even just saying this. I literally think I
manifested this, Like it's the after I saw you at

(00:21):
Simmy and Hayes's house. So that was a couple months ago.
And then a few weeks ago, my I was talking
to my social media go randomly. We were just talking
about a bunch of stuff and just kind of what
I would love to represent, just talking about a new
chapter for me and whatever, and I was she was like,
who would you really want to like talk to or whatever?
And I was like, it would be so cool to
talk to Jay and she was like that would be

(00:43):
really cool. And then we kind of just that was
kind of the thought and whatever, and then you hit
me and I was like, no, frickin' way, he's hitting
me right now. So I was like, absolutely, this is
like perfect, It's the universe just putting it in perfect timing,
because that makes me.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
So happy because it was exactly the opposite way. So
I've for a long time had people that I'd love
to sit down with, and every time I saw you
do something with mental Health and Vogue or any of
the segments that you ever did. I was just like,
she's amazing, Like, you know, it's incredible to the way
you were talking about it. When you'd post about it,
I'd be like, Oh, this is incredible, like to see
you speaking so openly about it, vulnerably about it. And

(01:18):
so I've always wanted to do this and then, but
we've never really crossed paths, and so I'm always just
a bit like, and I don't like asking friends of
friends when I haven't met someone. And so I was
like that day, i had to like pluck up the current,
but I'm just going to ask for myself, no, because
it's easier when I asked her, and I know Christy,
so yeah, yeah. But I was like, it's nicer when
there's I told my team too. I was like, it's

(01:39):
so much nicer when there's like a personal connection and
someone really feels comfortable rather than it's like a pr No.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
It was so perfect. Like when I think back to it,
I'm like, that was me just trusting the universe and
not pushing for anything. And I knew it was going
to kind of happen when I was supposed to do
and it literally Yeah you.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Felt it too, Yeah I did.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, And I hope that there is the set of spending.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
More time to you Jenny too.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I would love that because, like I think, also, I
don't know, like I admire people like you. I admire like,
you know, the the Michael Poland's and Michael Singers and
whim Hoffs of the world. And I feel like you've
fin that category for me of just people that are
because you know, I know a little bit about your story.
I'd like to actually know more, which would be really
cool to actually, I know we're obviously not here for

(02:26):
that exactly, but for me just personally, like, i'd love
to know more of your story. I know that you've
had quite the experiences, and I think that's so cool.
I'm like so intrigued by people with just that amount
of curiosity and like determination, determination and patience, Like that
takes so much patience to be like you or like
any of those people that I just listed. It's so

(02:47):
cool to me, and I just I wish I wish
for myself, but I'm working on it, i am. It's
just you know that that level of like I said,
patience and determination is like it's a gift like that
is like a really really amazing gift, and like I said,
like I'm just working on it all the time, and

(03:07):
that's my goal in life.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I guess. Well, I think I feel the same way
about you again that and by the way, I love
all those people you just mentioned too, Yeah, so feel
very honored to be put into that group of people.
And we've had Whim on the podcast before too, so
he's been a guest. But with you, I feel the
same way back when it's like when you see someone
who is so curious, who could get away with not
worrying about these things if you don't want to, but

(03:30):
then still being courageous enough to talk about these things,
and then using your platform as a space to open
up these dialogues, that is as if not more important.
As well as doing the work and doing the path. Yeah,
I mean I can see you doing the way. It's
fun watching you do the work and figuring it out.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
I love working on myself, like it is actually like
a passion of mine and like I just I find
so much comfort and joy and like actually finding where
I think I could better myself and being like even
if it's physical, like physical as in like my physical
health or working out or I just started doing speaking
of whim Hoff, I just started doing like cold plunges

(04:07):
and ice baths and like even if I don't have
the time to go outside, I just got a cold plunge.
I did it right before I got here. It's the
best thing ever. It's also so again, it takes so
much mental. The whole thing of it is all mental.
So I don't know, just stuff like that I really love.
So I'm always I'm always trying to just be the
best version of me, and so I just love that

(04:27):
it like actually makes me feel really good. I love
self care and I just love stuff like that. So
it's been really cool. But it's cool for you to
say that you enjoy seeing that from me, because there's
always been kind of this weird part of it for
me where I'm like, is this a pity party? Because
I don't want it to be like. I want this
to feel very positive. I want to connect with people,

(04:48):
and I guess that's that is my goal there is
to be like, there actually is this side of me
that you might may not know of, But the goal
here is to connect and also not feel like I'm
throwing some pity party for myself, because I want this
to be a learning experience for everyone. I want this
to be really positive and will really well received. I
want you to look at it and actually have a

(05:10):
positive feeling towards it. So I don't know, you'll find
like if I you know, when I do kind of
post about something or when I want to talk about something,
I'm usually sharing a tip or like sharing kind of
like a little technique, even if it's something so simple
as like walking outside, taking a few de breaths and journaling, Like, yeah,
it's just that kind of stuff that I really like
to share because I feel like I want to be helpful, Yeah,

(05:32):
more than anything.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Absolutely, And that's how that's at least how I see it. Yeah,
I see it not not completely, not as a pity
party at all, but so much more as just hey,
here's a reminder, yeah, something that I did, And yeah,
I feel like that positivity shines through too in the
way you do it, so at least if that helps
whatever that's worth from the outside, it definitely comes across
that way.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
And this is easily been the warmest introduction to a
conversation I've ever experiencing my entire.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Life going to say it was actually was actually really
nervous coming in here because this means so much to me, Like,
and I'm serious, because you know, I've done a lot
of interviews in my life and when when thinking about
this one or thinking about that I even wanted to
do something like this, it just it means a lot
to me, and so it made me a little nervous,
and I was like, I just want to get this right.

(06:18):
This isn't like you know, me going out and promoting
something or talking about something. This is, you know, something
very real that we all experience, which is just you know,
ourselves and our well being and just everything.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
So yeah, and this is this is a you know
for me genuinely, and I really do mean this, like
the podcast has been a great excuse or really from
my side and intention to get to know people, and
I really admire and so for me, it's been a
great way of building new friendships and relationships because if
you can sit and talk to someone and really get
along with each other, you're like, oh, we should do

(06:50):
this more often.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
So well I'm honored.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, So for me, it's definitely been that and to me,
you know you saying that, and you know taking it
as intentionally as you it's you know, for me, it's
as important. I always share this before we start recording usually,
but we just flowed. Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose,
the number one health podcast in the world. Thanks to
each and every single one of you that come back

(07:13):
every week to listen, learn, and grow. Now it's very
rare that I get to sit down with someone that
I have admired for a very long time from Afar,
someone that I believe has inspired me through the sharing
of their story, someone who speaks so vulnerably and openly
about the things that I most care about mental health, purpose,
the journey of life, and discovery and curiosity. And what

(07:35):
I want to share about this person is when I
bumped into them at a mutual friends' birthday party. And
I just want to give a big, big shout out
to Sam and Hayes because it wouldn't happen without them.
I love you, Simy and Aes. You've been amazing guests
on the podcast before as well. I would have bumped
into this individual and had this opportunity to reach out
to them, and as soon as I reached out, this
has been the most flowing conversation and connection that it

(07:55):
possibly had on the podcast, to be honest, So I
just want to put that out. I'm speaking about the
one only someone who needs no introduction, but successful business founder,
international supermodel, a founder of the incredibly successful tequila brand
eight one eight, and star on the Hulus The Kardashians,
which premier is in second season on September twenty second.
The one and Only Kendall Jenna Kendell, thank you so

(08:18):
much for doing this.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
For having me. That was a wonderful introduction.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Oh well, it's it's honestly, in such an honor getting
to know someone who it's very rare that I find
someone who functions with very similar values in a personal
connection sense. So when I reached out to you, I
really meant everything I said, and I could have written
you an essay, but I was like, let's spare the
details and then to get your response and then for

(08:43):
us to be here within a couple of weeks of
connecting and even your message this morning, I just want
people to know I was like the text you said
me this morning, I was like, this never happens. I
was amazing, And I was like and I was literally
going to do the same thing, and so to me,
I was like, this is very rare, and so I
love the synergy and the flow that we're experiencing. And
me too, I'm excited to get it now.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
It's funny because I I called Hayes before the other
day and I was just like, oh my god, I'm
going on your friend's show and whatever, and she was like,
he's the best. It's gonna You're just going to flow
right into it. He's so easy to talk to. And
that's literally what happened. And like I told you, I
just feel like I manifested this moment for both of
us and for this just this whole experience. And so

(09:23):
I am really happy to be here and I'm honestly honored.
Like I said, I admire you, and I there's so
many people like you that I admire. So I think
sitting down here with you is just so cool for
me and I get to talk about fun things with you.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Amazing first of many, and I wanted to start with
because I always liked to start with just things that
I've seen more recently. A couple of days ago, I
think you posted a beautiful picture of you hugging your horse,
and you were like, you know, like snuggle time or
something like that, and I was just like, when when
did horses become a part of your life? And how
did you get so close to them?

Speaker 1 (09:54):
I think I've spent many lifetimes with horses. I think
this is very one of many lifetime that I've had.
I grew up in a horse community, so where we
grew up horses everywhere, more trails than there were homes, really,
and so I was always around horses and I just
was deeply in love with them. And I have no explanation,
and that's why I say I feel like in past lives,

(10:15):
I have just been around horses. Yeah, So since I
was a really young kid, loved them and continue to
love them my whole life. They're just the best. They're
the most majestic and gorgeous and spiritual. They feel everything.
I just like it's such an honor to be in
their presence and to be able to do what I

(10:35):
can do with my horse. I find so magical that
I can stand in her stall with her and just
like vibe out with her. I like sometimes come to
like a little get a little tear eyed when I'm
standing in my stall with her because I'm like, this
is so cool that you allow me to do this
and we have this connection without any words. It's just
the best thing ever. So I love them.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, that's so special. I have a different tear eyed
story with horses, but I'll tell you the short version.
So when I proposed to my wife, I can't wait
to introduce you to do. When I proposed to her, which
was eight years ago or something like that, when I
proposed to her, I organized a very what I would
consider like a very a very Hollywood proposal. It was
it was too over the top, and I would do

(11:14):
it totally different today with all everything I've learned. But yeah,
it happens. It happens. And so we were walking by
the Thames in London, which is where we were both
born and raised, and this a cappella group jumps out
and they're singing Bruno Mars and then like they give
her a bouquet of flowers, and then I get on
one knee. I propose we have dinner by the river,
and then we walk around the corner and there's a

(11:35):
horse room and carriage to take us around, to take
us around London, and so we're on this carriage, we
have this beautiful, you know, path through London, and then
we get into the train to get back home to
her parents to tell them, and they already knew. She's
got hives all over her face.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
And she's allergic to and I found out that day
I proposed to her.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
I was like, all right, So then she was like
she had tears And when we got back, our parents
were like, what did you do to her?

Speaker 1 (11:59):
At least got to enjoy the moment.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, But I no, I love horses the same way
you do. Like I used to go to India a
lot when I was a kid, and that's where I
first learned to be with horses.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
And I mean they're so therapeutic.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Absolutely, Yeah, there's a.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Reason there's a coine therapy.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
It's the best exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
They make me. They make me when I'm with her.
I have a few, but I'm most mostly with one
of my horses right now because her name is Delandra.
I didn't name her. She came with her name, but
I call her Dylan or dyl. I love her so much,
But when I'm with her, I genuinely I speak of
like I spoke about how I've just loved horses my
whole life. I feel like a kid around her, Like

(12:41):
I feel like my twelve year old self that would
get up every morning throughout the entire summer at eight
am to go just be at my trainer's facility. And
I would stay there from eight am to eight pm.
I'd ride all her horses, I'd groom all her horses.
I would just sit in the stalls with all the horses.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Like it.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Just anytime I'm with her, I just have that sense
of like being a child again. And it's a really
really good feeling.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, animals have that special ability, don't they like whichever
animal you're attracted to. And yeah, I never thought I would,
but when I lived as a monk. The animal that's
revered in india's cows. And you would never think of
cows being like majestic or you know, in that way,
especially when you're not in India. But the cows in
India have these like lotus like eyes, Like the eyes

(13:24):
are just like a stunning Yeah, and they's so special
and there's such gentle animals yea. And recently Ruddy and
I went trekking with gorillas in Rwanda and gorillas are
the we have to go.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
That sounds unreal.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
It was unbelievable, and the animal that's revered in Rwanda.
So whenever they have a new gorilla that's born, they
have a naming ceremony with the community. It's so beautiful.
But and then I heard somewhere that you your first
job was you were a dog walker, and so I
was taking, like, do you have any lessons or anything
you learned by being a dog walker? I think first
jobs are so interesting.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, No, I mean I was always a super disciplined child,
like meaning to my like I just loved I would
put myself to bed at seven PM, be like my
mom would be like playing with me and my little
sister and be like, mom, it's seven I gotta go
to sleep, like it's time for my bedtime. She'd be like,
are you okay? And so I was always that kid,
And so I think I just was always really eager

(14:20):
to like work. I don't know why. I just like
wanted to always have something to do, something that I
felt passionate about that I really enjoyed. And so yeah,
when I was young, I put some flyers around our
community and said I would walk dogs and I ended
up getting people that would get let me have their
dog for a few hours and take it for a walk.
So I loved animals and I liked having something to do,

(14:41):
so I spent I was a kid that liked to
be by myself with animals, So like, I think that
that was a cool, very fitting thing for me because
I got to be by myself walking, but then also
experience all these little dogs with me.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, I wish I did that. I used to deliver newspapers.
So that was my first job and it's not as
glamorous in life London because it's raining.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Was that what you were desiring or was that and
wanted to make some money just like I need it.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
I was like I need to make some money. Yeah,
and so I was like, I'm going to start doing
this and you don't get to you know, you'd see
it in the movies where the paperboy just like chucks
the paper at the door, but I'd like to actually
go and put it inside. So my only interaction with
dogs is they were on the inside grabbing the paper, right,
and so yeah, barking, yeah and stuff. But I always
love knowing about people's first jobs and how things started.

(15:28):
For them because of you know obviously where you are today.
But what do you think it was in those early
years where you just said you were very disciplined, Like
it sounds like you were you were aware of certain
habits that you built. Then what were some of the
things that you feel confident about or how how did
you look for validation in those early years and where
did it come from for you?

Speaker 1 (15:48):
I mean, it's interesting. So Kylie and my little sister,
she was always the social butterfly. I was always I
just liked being to myself. I don't know if that's
the scorpio in me, so it just came naturally or
whatever I had. I had a group of friends who
I loved, but I just I like convividly remember just
on the weekends, not running to go be with my

(16:08):
friends all the time during the summer I was with them,
but on the weekends in between school, I would I
was really just by myself. I would love to like
hang out in my room. I like was kind of
a nerd. I loved video games and like sitting on
the computer and playing sims all day. Like I just
kind of liked being to myself and then all day
long during the summer was with my horses, and yeah,

(16:29):
I don't know, I just it just brought me joy.
I don't think I have, like, you know, a super
long explanation for that. It was so simple for me
as a kid, Like it was just as simple as
that made me happy, and that's just what I wanted,
and it explains I guess a lot of me now.
I went through like a phase where I felt like
I had to be around people. I think I live

(16:51):
a very social life and my job is very social,
so I was, you know, kind of conditioned to want
to be around people a lot. And then as you know,
the pandemic came around, You're not around as many people anymore.
Now I'm just re enjoying being by myself, which is
really cool. Yeah, and I had the most I had
the best day on Sunday, all by myself. I got up,

(17:13):
I went and rode my horses. I like, took my
niece to ride her pony, just me and her was
so nice. Brought her back home, went to my house,
got in my cold plunge, went in my pool, laid
out journals, like I was having the best day, and
I was just pretty much all by myself. So I
enjoy it so much.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
I love that. I'm sure that's so refreshing for people
to hear too, because I feel like people may from
the outside perceive a life which obviously, like you said,
for work, it's busy, and it's so true, and of
course you have wonderful friends, but to know that you
can feel comfortable in your own company and that's been
a habit that you've developed.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
I crave simple things, like I love my life and
I love my job, and I feel so fortunate that
I have been placed here that for some reason, I
was given this life, Like I feel immensely grateful for that,
and I have had so much fun, and I like
think back on just the experience that I've had, the
experiences that I've had this far, and it's like it's

(18:09):
like a shocking to me. I'm like, this is so frickin'
cool that I live this life. But at the end
of the day, like when I am home and when
I'm alone, like I crave the simple things. I love
a simple day. I love just like a simple routine
and being to myself and being around the people that
I love, my small core crew.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
So yeah, that's beautiful. Yeah, I mean that's I think
that's what we're all striving for, is right, that passion
in our career is and our work and then in
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something that really brings you joy internally when you think
about it or when you had it.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Like I said, I look back and the things that
I've accomplished, just even my job, Like I think I
really at one point when I was younger, decided I
want to be a model and this is what I
want to do, and the fact that I executed because
we talked about that determination like I really was. I
was fourteen years old when I kind of made that
decision and was like, this is what I want to do.

(22:39):
And I went to my mom and I was like,
please help me do this. And I didn't stop until
I was twenty four that I was like, Okay, I
think I need to take it back a notch, which
we can also get into because that's a very kind
of dramatic story, but like I just knew, and I
think I'm proud of myself for or being that kid

(23:01):
and being determined to do that and then executing and
doing it to the level that I had done it
and that I guess I still do. But I also
am proud of, I think more so the self work
that I've done within that process, because there was a
long period of time, i'd say the core five years
of it, that I was extremely overworked, not my happiest,

(23:26):
not because I wasn't doing what I loved, but just
because I was overwhelmed and I felt like I was
saying yes to everything because I felt really, really grateful
and really honored to be in the position that I
was in. So I was always saying yes, and it
just took a lot out of me to the point
where I just wasn't happy anymore. And so I had

(23:47):
to set those boundaries for myself. When I was about
twenty three, twenty four, I'd say, like, what a year
before the pandemic, So yeah, I was probably twenty three.
I really set boundaries for myself, and I was like,
I want to continue to do this because this is
what I love, but I need to start saying no
when I can and prioritizing me and prioritizing, like, you know,

(24:09):
my happiness and my well being. And it has done
wonders for me, like I feel like I can show
up better for myself and I can show up a
better person for the people that get to be around
me that day, and you know that I work with
on that day. So yeah, yeah, so that's what I'm
proud of you. That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
I was I won't say I was hoping for that,
because I'm always open to wherever anyone's life experience goes.
But there's a part of me that loves hearing that, Like,
I really appreciate hearing that, because when you've achieved so
many incredible things in your career, which you have to
then say, well, this is the part, like knowing how
to navigate it or making the right choices at the
right time.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Healthy balance, the healthy balance, it's so important. It's important
for all of us, like we have to this is
what we're prioritizing, you know.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yeah, so how did you find the courage to do that?
The twenty three Marc as you're saying, you're in a
competitive industry. As you said, it was overworking, it's fast paced.
I'm guessing there's comparison in that industry. There's competition in
that industry. It's not an easy space to be. You're
you know, you're in the top zero point zero one
percent in your industry. So it's hard. And the reason

(25:19):
I asked this is because I work with so many
people in this space and to have the courage to
say no, I know that if I sought this out,
then all of this is going to be just fine.
That actually takes more courage than we recognize. We realize
that when you have nothing, then there's nothing to lose,
you can actually have a lot of courage, right, But
when you have everything and there's everything to lose, and

(25:40):
a lot of the time, at least what I've heard
in town is you know older managers and agents and
I'm not saying you have any of this, but people
that I know will be told, well, hey, if you
don't do this, like you'll be forgotten next year, or
you know your your career is only going to last
another six months. How did you have that courage to
say no, no, no, I need to do this, Like where
did that come from?

Speaker 1 (25:58):
And I think that it's interesting, like I've never thought
about it that way. To be completely honest with you,
I just knew that if I had gone any further,
that I was going to lose myself. I was at
that very I was on the teeter totter edge of
that point, where had I gone any further, I was
probably not going to be great. It was so important

(26:21):
to me to feel good that I just knew that
it was something that I had to do. And I
can't say, like, you're absolutely right, like there were so
many people around me that had told me not to
say no and or told me yeah, told me not
to say no, told me not to stop. I fought

(26:42):
my way out of it a little bit because there
were people that had worked for me that you know,
didn't want me to stop because it might have benefited them,
of course, but I got to that point and I
just knew I had to do it, and I just
I don't know, I don't know how to explain it.
I guess it was just such an unbelievable sensation that
I had where I knew that if I do this,

(27:02):
I'm going to be better for everyone, and I'm going
to be better for myself, which means I'm going to
be better for the people around me. And I have
to do this, and so it wasn't really I want
to be able to live with happiness, God forbid any
of this ever went away. And I think that that
was a big moment for me of being like, I'm
gonna be okay if I don't get this job tomorrow,

(27:25):
and I'm gonna be okay if I don't get that
job in a month, if I have to take this
time to do whatever things will come. Everything's going to
work out the way it's supposed to do.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
And I had to trust that well to me from
the outside, And it's beautiful that you didn't see it
in yourself. I al respects it even more wonderful. But
the idea that to me from the outside, that's a
lot of courage. Yeah. I think it takes a lot
of courage. It takes a lot of vulnerability and openness,
and it takes courage every level, whether someone's thinking about
quitting their job to do something they love, or whether

(27:54):
someone's trying to relocate their family and doesn't know how,
or whether someone like you is feeling success but then
going well wait, women. And I think in the past
few years, we've seen athletes and musicians and actors and
people in all creative industries step back and say, well,
I need to put me first. Yeah, And I think
that that's empowering because I think we hear about burnout
in work.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
Culture and corporate pressure so often for sure.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
So what was it that you started to do with
that newfound time at that time? Like, where was is that?
What the curious? Was? The curiosity always there and now
you could actually follow it?

Speaker 1 (28:27):
It was it was, it was always there. And I
had had a lot of people coming to me telling
me about meditation and how it changed their life and
therapy and so many different things. And I was a
bit overwhelmed because I was like, oh my god, what
of this is going to suit me. I think it's
a very personal experience. I think everybody has a very
different version of all of that stuff, and so it

(28:50):
was a little overwhelming. So I think I really just
took the time to be off for a second. It
was even the little things. It was like being able
to go to my friend's birthday party, which I wouldn't
have been able to go before because I was working
a lot.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
I love hearing that because I think it is those
simple things, like you know, giving yourself that space. Yeah,
whatever it is that you needed to do when you
needed it, And like you said, sometimes it's like that's
when all the subscribe buttons come up in front of you.
And it's like try this and try this, and it's like,
well no, no, no, let me just take my time.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
It was also now that I think about it, Yeah,
twenty three, I'm twenty six. I've had my horse for
so around that time is when I bought the horse
that I have now, who is my Like I jump
her and I like, I have two other horses, but
they're like retired, so I don't really ride them the
same way I ride her. So yeah, I guess it

(29:40):
was around that time too that I was like, I'm
going to do this because I love this and like
I want to get back into it and this is
what I've loved my whole life. So so it was
around that time that I feel like all of that
started happening, and I bought my horse and I like
started taking more time for things that made me really happy.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah. What I'm noticing in you and observing, or at
least from just the no in a good way way,
I was just saying, it's like it feels like, no
matter what's happening in your orbit, there's this pillar of
belief that it's important to be happy. Yeah, like you know,
that's like this core center belief in your life where
it's really important to be happy. It's important to be happy.

(30:17):
It's that has to be the goal for sure.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
And you know it's not always easy. We live in
such an interesting industry and in such an interesting time
with social media, that it can be very hard. Sometimes
you can fall victim to so many things that don't
serve you and that don't make you happy. If your

(30:41):
happiness depends on the actions of others, you know, you're
at mercy of things that you can't control. And that's
never where I want to be. So I always want
to live in like me and my therapist talk about
like my higher goddess, my higher self, Like I always
want to live there knowing that you know when I'm there,

(31:04):
you can't take that away from me. That's mine And
no matter what you can disagree with me, you can
agree with me, that's not going. I'm not changing, I'm
not shifting. I'm here, I'm in my higher Goddess. So
I kind of I always live by like holding my
happiness and not letting anyone else affect it. And though
I fall victim to it at times well as we

(31:26):
all probably do, absolutely I strive every day to live
in that place, So.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
What are some of the qualities of your higher goddess
so that that kind of she's awesome.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Like I said, I don't love a pity party. I also, like,
you know, sometimes it feels weird to like say good
things about yourself. But I've also learned a lot about
talking to myself and a lot about looking in the
mirror and being like, you're great, you're gorgeous, you're amazing,
you're loyal, you're positive, you're so many like I love
words of affirmation. I love just sitting there and reassuring

(32:01):
myself of who I am, because that's another thing for me.
You know, there's so many false narratives about me, about
all of us, I'm sure, like so many people think
they have you figured out when they don't even know
the half of it. So sitting there and being like,
you know, you get frustrated. Sometimes it could feel really unfair.

(32:22):
You could be reading something that someone is saying about you,
or hearing something that someone's saying about you and being like,
that is so unfair because that's not who I am,
And that really gets to me sometimes and that really sucks.
But then looking at myself in the mirror and being like,
but I know who I am and that's all. Why
does anything else matter? And my friends know who I am,
and my family knows who I am. My dog knows

(32:44):
who I am, my horse knows who I am, Like,
why does any of everything else is just noise?

Speaker 2 (32:48):
I do this exercise. I don't think I've sh had
this before, but I do this exercise with some of
my clients where we'll go on a walk and we'll
be on a hike wherever we are, and I'll ask
them what they think a piece of you know, maybe
there's a little leaf, or maybe there's some flower or
something that looks a little unique on the path, and
I'll say, what do you think that feels like? And

(33:10):
what do you think it would feel like if you
picked it up in your hand. And they'll be like, Oh,
it looks really rough and like it might scratch me,
and like it looks like a bit, you know, like
uneven or whatever, and it looks kind of hard and strong.
And then I'll ask them to pick it up, and
nine times out of ten it's completely different. Like they'll
pick it up and it will just dissolve in their hands,

(33:31):
or they'll turn it over and the color is really
soft and sorry the shape. The shape's really soft, and
the color's totally different on the other side. And I
do that I exercise to help us realize just how
multifaceted humans are. Today, I've got to meet you, and
obviously we're spending a lot of deep, intimate, vulnerable time together,
so you learn faster about someone. But if someone only
follows someone on social media, or only sees someone at

(33:53):
an event, or only sees one interview, it's so easy
to create such a singular view of someone and I
and I want to say this because I really think
we all feel it. I don't think anyone wants to
be seen in a singular way. If you had to
choose one word that had to be you for the
rest of your life, I don't think anyone wants that.

(34:13):
I think we all know that we're messy and complex
and different, of course, but we like to put someone
else in a box, whoever that may be, because it's
easier than to live life and say, okay, well that's
person's a bright yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
No.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
So there's this beautiful piece of wisdom that I always
share from Charles Horton Cooley, and he wrote this in
eighteen ninety I think it was, which just shows how
true this has been for such a long time and
obviously long before that as well. And he said, the
challenge today is I'm not what I think I am.
I'm not what you think I am. I am what

(34:50):
I think you think I am. And we'll let that
blow everyone's mind. Yeah, Charles Houghton coolly said, the challenge
today is I'm not what I think I am. I'm
not what you think I am. I am what I
think you think I am. And what he's trying to
say is that we live in a perception of a

(35:10):
perception of ourselves. So if I think you think I'm smart,
then I allow myself to feel smart.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Right, It's like we need that, family needs that validation.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Or if I think you think I'm not smart, then
I feel hurt. And the challenges I don't know what
you're thinking at all, especially outside in the world, and
so I find out what you're saying around like, well
what do I think about myself? Like how do I
feel about myself? How do the people that actually know
me feel about me? I think that's really empowering. I
wanted to ask you because I feel like from what

(35:41):
I've seen and from what I've heard, you have great friendships.
You have a great question with your families. You said, like,
what do you think have been really great habits or
traits in relationships that have helped you build up good
friendships and family relationship Because I think for so many
people sometimes their friendships and their family can often be
the most difficult part. But I feel like the way

(36:01):
you communicate, the way you're talking about it, I'm like, Okay,
there's some really good habits in place. Yeah. Yeah. Have
there been any principles or rules that you've learned along
the way that have been helpful?

Speaker 1 (36:09):
I mean, of course honesty. I'm a big person on
like keeping a really honest, healthy, communicative relationship. But I
also think, like I find it really important to have
not feel like you're on top of each other when
you have your family around or your friends around. It's
okay to like sometimes even if you're at like a

(36:31):
family dinner, running to the bathroom and just being like,
let me just take a couple of breaths because this
is getting overwhelming, you know what I mean. So I
just love to like take a second. My feelings are valid,
Like sometimes my family's a lot, which I bet everyone
all already knows family have a sense of crazy to them.
But I think that I can get really overwhelmed really easily.

(36:53):
I am prone to just you know, a good amount
of anxiety and just being extremely overwhelmed and kind of
taking everything too seriously sometimes. So I like to just
step away sometimes and just be like, this is okay.
I'm allowed to feel this way. It's valid. I'm just
gonna take a deep breath and I'm not going to react,
and then I'm gonna go back out there and I'm
gonna be fine. That's a great times I do that.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
I love that. I love how easy it is. No
one needs to learn a new meditation. So sometimes that's
so yeah, it's as simple as that. I love that.
I you know, one of the things that you know
when which which really touched my heart when I saw this,
because I think when things happen in culture and everyone
talks about it, but sometimes you're like, okay, well I
can tell that there's a real connection here, like when

(37:35):
when you lost Virgil, Right like that, when I when
I saw your message and what you spoke about it,
I was like, wow, this is this is someone who
had a really deep connection with this individual, and going
through grief is really really tough, Like you know, people
who lose and I lost two really close people to
me during the pandemic. One was thank you. One was
one was my spiritual teacher since I was twelve years old,

(37:56):
and he died of stage four brain cancer and I
hadn't seen him during the pandemic. I can go back
for his because that was still when it was like yeahwn,
so he couldn't go back for his funeral, and you know,
he'd been the person who'd been such a key piece
of my world. And then the other person, pretty much
in the same year was my best friend as a monk,

(38:17):
so he was still a monk, wow, and he having
to get cancer and he passed to it during the pandemic.
I can see him either, and he was my age
and so to lose someone that was you know and
he was still there and so yeah and so and
so when I saw your you know, your wonderful tribute
to Virgil as well, I was like, you know, how
how do you process something like that when you know

(38:37):
it's not only industry friends but genuine friendship beyond that,
and just how yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Well, my first thought here is why is it always
the best people? Like, why is it always these people
that are just such balls of light in everyone's life?
It's like, so you just think about it and you're like,
this is so unfair, and you're going through every emotion,
and to be honest, it was really shocking because not
everyone knew what he was going through and suffering from,

(39:06):
so it was really shocking. I'll never forget the day
I found out, and it just absolutely obviously breaks your
heart and you can't help but be like, oh my god,
did I ever say enough? Did I ever tell him enough?
It's really interesting to share that feeling with so many people.

(39:29):
It feels good in a way, and you're just like
everyone makes you feel so human, and you're sharing this
emotion with people that knew him, people that didn't know him,
people that just loved him from Afar, and it's just
a really beautiful and incredible thing to a certain degree,
but then also just obviously the most devastating thing. It

(39:51):
hits so hard when so many people are talking about
it and so many people are affected by it. So
it was definitely really shocking, really sad time.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yeah, it was, yeah, yeah, and those and it's really
interesting where you said there is like why And I
had that with my spiritual teacher for sure. I was
just like like he was, you know. And and what's
really powerful about what I could at least remember from
him at that time was that even though he had
staged four brain cancer, which means he'd lost his short
term memory and a lot of his long term memories impaired,

(40:26):
if you ever met him, he would just thank you
for your service to God. Like he would just say
thank you for everything you're doing for other people, and
he would just be grateful.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
And I was just like, that's exactly how v was too.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
He was the most positive lived life, like appreciative, wanted
to say yes to everything, wanted to just be there
for everyone. You could literally ask him to design a
pencil for you and he would be like, it'll be
done tomorrow. What else do you need? Like he just
had so much to give and he gave it. And

(41:02):
that wasn't that was pre his diagnosis. That was like,
that was just who Virgil was. And so to then
find out what he found out at a certain point
in his life and still be that person and still
like I'm going to show up for everyone, and like,
my time here is so special to all these other
people and I'm going to like be here to make

(41:23):
them feel amazing. It's just like unreal, Like it makes
you just be like what, Like how how could you
be that incredible and giving? Like that is so crazy?
There wasn't a selfish bone in that man's body, like
he was just the best. Yeah, but I'm sorry to
hear about your Oh.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
No, No, I think it's actually nice speaking about people
that we both love in a similar way, even though
they're in such different places in life doing very different things.
But to talk about someone's and I think that's a
big part of it for me, at least with grief,
that I feel like when I talk about the beautiful
qualities of the people that I lost, it gives me
so much confidence that they want me to live it

(42:05):
and they want me to try and embody it, and
that how fortunate we are to have experienced that type
of humanity.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Yeah, And those are my thoughts of him. Like, I
think all we ever really want is human beings, is
to be you know, when we do leave this earth,
we want to be remembered so beautifully and positively positively. Ali,
I know at least I do, of course, but like
you just want, you of course want to make people
feel something, and he made so many people feel something,

(42:32):
and for that it is so special, like what they
say that we, you know, we have our purpose here,
and I know that he fulfilled a purpose here that
he was supposed to fulfill, and I think that that's
I think about it beautifully, Like I obviously it's a
very very sad situation and it breaks my heart, but
I have nothing but beautiful thoughts of him, and I

(42:54):
think that's really cool and really special.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
So yeah, thank you for sharing that too. And I
had to ask you because yeah, I just I feel
I love hearing amazing things about amazing people that you know,
because I think so many of the most incredible people
I grew up reading about people that I never met,
and I spent a lot of my life studying books
about people that I never met, some Malcolm X and
Martin Luther King and Einstein and people that I really

(43:17):
see as people that have directed so much of my
life from how they lived. And I feel like he
was potentially one of those people that I never met him,
but whenever I hear about him, I'm just like sure,
Oh this is someone that we could learn from. You
spoke about purpose there. I was wondering, how is your
purpose changed? You had this very confident view of I

(43:37):
want to be a mono. You know you've superseded, exceeded,
and continue to flourish in that world, and I always
wish that you do. How has your purpose evolved as
that time's gone on.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
I think I've learned a lot. I've learned a lot
about myself about what I want from my life, and
which is kind of what we've been talking about. But
I'm actually really excited to get older and to learn
so much more about not only myself, but like the
journey and the path that I guess want to take
and want to be on. So I'd say, you know,

(44:12):
my purpose has evolved from obviously within business, doing what
I want to do and making sure I'm happy and
finding the thing that I love and all those things.
But I've kind of, like I said, really tuned into
me and I think my purpose at least at this
very moment, and what I've kind of evolved into is

(44:32):
my higher Goddess, like I am determined to tune into
her at all times. But also as I get older,
I have so much that I want to connect with
other people and with you know, aka social media and
people that may not know me personally, and just you
know the following. Like I said, I was given this

(44:55):
life for some reason, for whatever reason, I was placed here,
and I do feel a per to share and connect
and put a smile on people's faces or make someone
feel a positive feeling. And so I think that within
me wanting to achieve me tuning into my higher goddess,
I think that also entails me being a great version

(45:17):
of myself for other people to then experience, and my
tips and my tools, whatever I can share, whatever help
I can give. I I really, you know, as corny
as it sounds, I want to spread like I want
people to feel love. That's really I guess the purpose.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Yeah that's beautiful.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
I mean we'll thank you, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
And it is funny that so much of the stuff
that is corny or you know whatever, that's the stuff
that's true, right, That's the stuff it is.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Like, there's also just we all just like live in
such a it's an interesting time obviously, and it can
feel really negative. And I tend to stay off of
platforms like social media platforms because it's hard to look
at it sometimes and it feels really negative. So I
feel like we all just need a little bit of
a smile sometimes.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
I agree. I agree. I post these videos every day
which are just these fun, silly things that happen yeah
old that my team will find, I'll find, and I
post them every day literally for that reason, and that
reason only because I'm like, I may or may say,
may or may not say something that makes someone smile,
but this definitely, like this without will bring some joy.

(46:28):
And if this is the only joy that someone experienced,
I want them to see good in the world and
believe that there's good in the wa.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
That's one of my favorite things to see on TikTok.
When I sit in my bed at night and fall
victim to TikTok, I love to see there's people that
I'll post, like here's like five amazing facts that have
happened in the world in the last couple of weeks
or whatever, and it'll be like the you know, pandas
are not extinct anymore, and like the very great barrier
reef is coming back and stuff like that, and so

(46:55):
I'm like, that's so cool.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
That's what I want to hear exactly. And you know,
if it was like it's going down, it's like it's
going to get a lot of likes and hits, but
it's going up.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Why do we like gravitate towards the negative so much?
Like very interesting?

Speaker 2 (47:10):
We have to retrain I genuinely believe it's just a pattern.
It's a pattern and a habit that's been so long, absolutely,
and we have to retrain ourselves clickbait.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Of it all and the whole thing. And we're like,
that's going downhill. I need to see what's happening, and
we're just like, we do need to retrain our brains.
It's exactly what it is.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Yeah, And it starts with what you said earlier. It
starts with how we see ourselves. It is all from that.
If someone looks in the mirror as you were saying earlier,
or if someone just reflects on themselves, not in the
physically but just internally. Yeah, most of us will spot
all the negative things about ourselves and then we take
that out into the world and spot all the negative
things about everyone else, and then we take that out

(47:52):
into social media.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
So that just propels from all.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Yeah, if we ask someone to sit down and write down.
As you said, we feel uncomfortable taking a compliment, or
we feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Saying saying nice about herself, so exactly.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
And so it all starts with our relationship with ourselves.
If we were able to find three good things about
ourselves today, I promise you're going to find three good
things about the person sitting in front of you, and
that will right exactly.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
I do a lot of like inner child work with
my therapist, and there's actually a trend on TikTok that
was going around, but coincidentally enough, we ended up naturally
speaking about it in my session and it was like
this trend on TikTok. I guess that was like a
girl being like, anytime you're being mean to yourself, just

(48:39):
think this is who you're talking about. And then it
flashes to like a photo of her as a kid,
and so I me and my therapist were talking about
something similar and she was like, why don't you find
like a photo of yourself and put it on your
bathroom mirror so that every morning, every night, every day,
when you walk into your bathroom mirror, you're looking at
her and you're remembering that. If there's anything negative that
you're ever saying about your if you're ever being mean

(49:00):
to yourself, you're talking about her. And so I did that,
and I went into my I went into like my
memorabilia closet in my house, and I was looking through
old like photo books. And I've seen these photo books
my whole life. I've literally seen every photo that's been
in here. And I like flipped to a page and
there was a photo I'd never seen of myself ever.
It was a polaroid, so it was the original photo

(49:22):
and it was just me as a little girl with
a bow in my hair out and a dress on,
and I have like a little alien tattoo or something
right here, and I'm like, have this big cheesy smile
on my face. And I was like, that's the photo
I'm putting on my thing. I can show you the
photo later. I have a picture of it on my phone.
But so I pasted it on my bathroom mirror, and
I talked to her. And I'm always like, if I'm

(49:42):
ever looking in the mirror and being negative towards myself
or anything, I always look right over to her and
I'm like, she's dope, and I love her. And so
It's just another way of just self life.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
I love that. That's such a great tool. That's such
a great too. My team found a kid picture of
me and made an embarrassing of that trend.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
So I'll show you that too, Okay, so you know it.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Yeah, exactly exactly as well, Keto. You were saying earlier
that you know you you wanted to come here, and
you you wanted to share and manifested, and there were
things you wanted to share. What is it that's on
your heart that you've wanted to share that Maybe we
didn't go there today already, or is there something on
your mind and heart, is an experience or any anything
that really drew you here and made this happen, right, Like,

(50:23):
I want to honor that.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
I think we've obviously we've honestly touched a lot of
what I felt like I would have loved to get
off my heart. I don't know. I was really excited,
honestly to come here and share a little bit of
me that I feel is very sometimes scary for me
to share. And like I said, I came in here
and I was a little nervous because this is important

(50:46):
to me, and like this part of you know everyone's
journey and what we're talking about today is it's so important.
I really that was I guess my intention here today
was to come in and share a little bit of
me and maybe for whoever's watching, they find some comfort
in this, or some joy from this, or they understand
me a little bit more, you know what I mean. So,

(51:08):
I think that we've hit a lot of really cool
points and yeah, I mean I feel I feel really
good good.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
I wanted to honor that. I asked that because you know,
I think I think when when you feel you're in
that flow with someone and yeah, I feel like, you know,
we've learned so many new things about you today, and
there's so many moments where I'm like, I just feel
like you're so comfortable and you've been so open with us.
But I just wanted to honor that thank you, to
make sure that you feel that you've really felt heard
and seeing it.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
I appreciate that thank you so.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
So we all want to just be understood at the
end of the day.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
I think the closer you get to people humans, the
closer you get to people of different backgrounds and different
walks of life, the more you start to recognize how similar.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
We all are, yeah, exactly, and how many.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Challenges we all share, despite how much money someone has
in the bank, despite how much fame someone has, despite
how much follows someone as And what we find is
that everyone feels their own guilt for where they are,
and everyone feels their own pressure for where they are,
and everyone feels their own challenge for where they and
you just start to realize that we all have the
same emotions in different mixes.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Yeah, we're all just having a human experience exactly. We're
all just going day by day. I think we all
need to be a little bit kinder to each other
and just take it easy on some people because we are.
We're all we all have our own struggles. And I
don't know, I'm an EmPATH, so I like feel for
things and I feel for people and yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Yeah, and it starts with you the person.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Yeah, it's exactly. Tell yourself with yourself.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
If you can be kinder to yourself, chances are you're
going to be I found that the days I stop
judging myself of judging others, because it changed how I
saw humanities. Yeah, Ken do we end every on Purpose
episode with a final five, which is a fast five round.
I ask you a question and you answer it with

(53:13):
a one word or one sentence maximum, so it's super
quick and share. Okay, okay, and we have to whisk
you away because you need to you need to go
to your next appointment. But okay, So the first question
is what's something you're curious about right now?

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Ooh, I am super curious about I was saying how
I love Michael Singer, and I think what I really love.
I'm reading The Surrender Experiment right now, and I'm only
in the first couple chapters, so he's basically this is
not a quick answer. He's basically the first part of

(53:46):
the book where he's talking about how he was curious
about meditation and how he got into meditation and how
he really just was like on a trip with his
friends and his girlfriend in the woods and like sat
in a corner or sat at a tree and was like,
I'm going to just really dive into this and see
what happens. That's what I'm curious about right now is
just actually, like I meditate, I do a lot of
breathing work, breathing exercises, and I just really want to

(54:07):
tap in. Yeah, like Michael Singer did I love that.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
That's a great answer. That's a great answer. Circond question,
if there's anything that you're working on personally right now?
What are you working on on yourself?

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Is there any Yes, I'm working on I'm working on boundaries,
and I'm working on not a stressor like I can
stress about things in my mind and I overthink and
I just so I'm really working on like calming down
and just letting things flow better and not being so

(54:38):
controlling over things, especially that I can't control.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Love it. Question number three, what's your favorite thing about founding?
Eight one eight ooh, being an entrepreneur, being a founder?

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Probably that Like I, I, you know, was a model
and I worked for people a lot. I kind of
love being my own boss and really being able to
have my own creative a place where I can be
creative and just really express my creativity and have so
much fun doing all of that creative stuff. And I've

(55:10):
learned so much and learning about the culture and learning
about the tequila and everything. Like I've just had the
best time.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
So I love that question Before what's something you used
to value but you don't value anymore?

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Validation? I don't care anymore, at least I'm telling myself that, yeah,
we have to first right, No, but it's true, Like
I used to care so much more about validation, I
really don't care anymore at least, thank you.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Fifth and final question. If you could create one law
that everyone in the world had to follow, what would
it be.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Oh, I would do like on like a Sunday, you
have to take half the day and like not look
at your phone or something.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
I love that's leg That's great, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Kind of nice. Or the full day really crazy? I
love that idea.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
I love that. Kendel Jenner. Everyone, this was amazing, Kendal,
this honestly, and I'm excited to catch up afterwards too.
But there was just so much flow and synergy in
this whole thing happening, and I couldn't thank you more
for doing this with me here on on purpose. And
I hope that this is the first and many times
that will do this, but I hope it's the beginning

(56:23):
of a beautiful friendship and relationship. And I want to
everyone who's been listening or watching back at home, please
let me and Kendle know, tag us, letting us know
what resonated with you, what connected with you, like, what
was it that you've got curious about, or what was
something she said that just shifted your perspective or where
you learned something new. I'd love to hear it. I
know there are tons of moments for me where I

(56:44):
was listening going this is amazing, this is incredible, This
is awesome. So any wisdom nuggets that stuck out to you,
please let us know because I love seeing what made
a difference in your life as well. And a big
thank you to Kendall for opening our heart and opening.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
Up our mind.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Thank you too, honored, Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Thank you so much. That's amazing.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
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