How do you usually calm down?
Have you heard about breathing for anxiety relief?
Today, Jay welcomes back world-renowned breathwork pioneer and “Iceman” Wim Hof to explore how the human body and mind are capable of far more than we believe. Together, they dive into the origins of the Wim Hof Method and how it harnesses the transformative power of breath, cold exposure, and commitment to unlock profound healing, emotional resilience, and spiritual clarity.
Wim shares the emotional story of how his mother’s invocation at his birth and the tragic loss of his wife became catalysts for his life’s mission: to help others reconnect with their inner strength and soul purpose. He explains how breathwork and cold immersion can help regulate the nervous system, reduce inflammation, conquer anxiety, and even break through grief and trauma. Jay and Wim also discuss the simplicity of the method, its scientific validation, and how surrender and intention unlock states of consciousness once thought to be out of reach.
In this interview, you'll learn:
How to Reduce Inflammation Naturally with Breathing Techniques
How to Strengthen Your Immune System in Just 30 Minutes
How to Calm Anxiety Through Simple Daily Breathwork
How to Access Inner Peace by Controlling Your Breath
How to Unlock Your True Potential in Just One Week
You are far more powerful than you realize. Whether you're battling anxiety, feeling stuck, or simply looking to reconnect with yourself, the tools you need are already within you—your breath, your body, and your willingness to try.
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
Safety Disclaimer:
Don't do the Wim Hof breathing in a swimming pool, before going underwater, beneath the shower, or piloting any vehicle. Always practice sitting or lying down in a safe environment. Tinnitus symptoms may appear as a result of pushing too forcefully during the breathing exercise. If this happens, take a step back in your future practice – it's important to increase gradually, not forcefully!
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What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
00:41 Dedicating a Life to Wellness
05:04 The Benefits of the Wim Hof Method Explained
11:31 Unlocking the Untapped Power of Breath
13:45 Gaining Full Control Over Your Mind and Body
17:59 Cleansing the Body Through Proper Breathing
22:24 The Science-Backed Truth About Anxiety
24:11 Can Breathing Right Strengthen Immunity?
25:54 How Discomfort Training Builds Stress Resilience
28:22 Training the Body to Embrace Cold Plunges
31:37 The Origin Story of the Wim Hof Method
33:43 Finding Mental Clarity Through Cold Exposure
40:01 Simple Steps to Take Charge of Your Life
44:23 Exploring the Practice of Mantra Meditation
45:22 Defining and Strengthening Willpower
49:26 Overcoming Life’s Most Difficult Challenges
51:20 How to Self Soothe on Emotionally Tough Days
52:35 Revealing the Hidden Strength of the Body
54:21 How Ice Baths Can Benefit Society
55:49 The Role of Surrender in Facing Fear
58:22 Healing Grief Through Cold Plunge Practices
Episode Resources:
Wim Hof | Website
Wim Hof | Instagram
Wim Hof | X
Wim Hof | Facebook
Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What if we could control the deep autonomic nervous system.
The immune system. Inflammation is the course and effect of
actually every disease. I'm into healing, into bringing down inflammation,
and that is what I give to people within an hour.
So better control over the immune system, better control over
(00:22):
the central nervous system, and you learn to clean the
biochemical residue, which is the result of our daily life
Actic Modern Life, the number one health and wellness podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Jay Sheety Jay Shetty, Hey, everyone, welcome back to On Purpose,
the place you come to become happier, healthier and more healed.
I am so grateful that you decided to tune in today.
Today's guest is truly an icon in this world, someone
(00:56):
that has been able to share prolific lessons, life changing
habits and practices that have transformed millions of people's lives.
His personal journey is also remarkable. I'm really excited to
reintroduce because we've had him on the podcast once. Please
welcome Wim Half Wim. It is such a joy. The
(01:18):
last time I interview it was on Zoom during the pandemic.
Today we're finally meeting for the first time and as
a fan of your work, and as a deep believer
in your work, I'm so excited to have you here,
so thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It's great to meet you in physical presence. I can
feel your energy. It's great. Yeah, you're really a good
man with very important work. Being here, I'm able to
transmit something new, organic life from the heart.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, thank you, Wim, thank you so much. And the
feeling is mutual. And I want to start by asking
you because what I find amazing is people like yourself
who've dedicated their lives to certain work. And I want
to to ask you, what do you believe in so deeply?
Why do you believe so deeply in your work and
the impact that it's making that allowed you to dedicate
(02:10):
your whole life to it.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I think it was my mother at my birth who invocated.
Is a naive, god fearing mother, and yet in fear
that this baby was going to die. There was the
second baby, and nobody knew there was a second one.
I was too deep in so I was too long
and almost suffocated. I came through her fear and pushing
(02:35):
and invocating, Oh God, let this child live. I will
make him a missionary. So I don't think it is
my drive, but it is invocated by my mother, a
naive mother. Yet god fearing is a formula. It is
a powerful formula that is impregnated. It's tattooed on my soul.
(02:58):
While I was nothing more than a purple little nothing
coming out there, defenseless, and yet there her invocation came
right into me. And how that all works. It works
because I've been talking to her. And when I was twelve,
I told my friends, if the world thinks that's the
(03:21):
way it begins to reveal itself, twelve years, you start
thinking about what is life. If the world think that
is a hunger, abuse, pollution, disease, darkness, depression is normal,
then I think it is sick and I'm going to
do something about it. And what I do not know,
(03:42):
I just do it. That is where it came from.
And since then it starts, and every moment is a drop.
After forty to fifty years to draw all those drops
have become a tsunami, a way through the thick wall
of ignorance, because I think it is all sickness, disease, darkness, depression, wars, pollution,
(04:08):
et cetera. Is just based in ignorance. So I've come
up with a way looking in nature, not in books.
Something that works that makes that overwrites my mind of
all that has been filled up with. And then the
cold water came in, and from the cold water you
(04:31):
learn to breathe different, and with that deep breathing you
go past the conditioning, and then you see all what
has been written for real here now and then, because
it is so close, it's so direct, I had no
need for looking in esoteric books anymore, traditions, languages, religions,
(04:56):
anything like that. No, God was suddenly here and now
this is. It was the first time my feeling when
I went into the core order, and I've been doing
it since ever. And you know what, it was my
mother's invocation. She was God fearing, Catholic and all. And
right now the priests of the Catholic Church itself, the doctors,
(05:20):
the theologists, they are coming and they are integrating the
Whimhoff method in the deep religious esoteric disciplines of the Church,
which is equal's mysticism of Islam, Hinduism, Taoism, Buddhism. It's
all the same layer. And that layer now has been
(05:44):
hit and recognized by the best in the Catholic Church.
The most learned of men. And if they are able
to recognize that, then I say I am not into
an abstracting knowledge in philosophies and azo theoretic disciplines making
(06:05):
it all so difficult. Make God where is He? Where
is He? If we go and it is recognized by
the best of them to be a highly esoteric discipline,
then now the discipline is there for everybody accessible in
a half hour. That means God is back.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
For someone who has no idea what the whim Hoff
method is, how would you break it down for them
and introduce them.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
To It is simple, It is scientifically endorsed, and I'm
inviting all the time. I got big studies done recently
they are into publishing and it all shows the effectivity
to go past our normal control, willful control within our bodies.
(06:53):
What if we could control emotion? What if we could
control the deep autonomic news of a system, the immune system.
Those matters are now present and shown in signs that
we are able to control that. So that is based
through very simple techniques.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
And what would change if we could control those before
we know the techniques. If we could control those systems,
what does that mean for humans? What are the benefits.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Oh, there is some multiple benefits from inflammation. Inflammation is
the cause and effect of actually every disease. And we
showed that people injected with the bacteria could withstand the
influence of the bacteria on the immune system. Thus the
inflammation which normally happens within that controlled experiment, this time
(07:49):
it doesn't happen. So people bring down the course and
effect of disease, which is inflammation. And we showed that
in science. Now we see where we are in the
world with the COVID. When there was COVID, we had
to talk and medicines and pills. It's all money, money, money, money, money.
(08:11):
So I'm into healing, into bringing down inflammation. That that
is what I give to people. Within an hour. The
techniques come within an hour. Before they thought, how much
time does it take for people to learn what you
can do bringing down the inflammation after an injection of
(08:34):
a bacteria, Does it take a year one to have
here A said ten days and then it became four days,
and now is a half hour. So better control over
the immune system, better control over the central nervous system,
which includes our emotions. So our emotions become much more
(08:56):
pacified by doing this and you learn to clean the
biochemical residue, which is the result of our daily life,
actic daily modern life. So we bring our emotions, learn
to regulate our emotions. We get a lot more energy
(09:17):
because of the cardiovascular fitness. Workout, a cold shower, it's
so easy. Also, it's remarkable. There was just last week
I wasn't Poland with five hundred people in the mountains
and there was one guy saying, oh wait, I'm doing
the cold and I'm doing this, but my results get lower.
I say, come forward, come here on stage. So how
(09:41):
many pushups can you do? And he said fifteen? Now
breathe this way for thirty times, fully in, lady, go
fully and be with your mind in one thing. You
give the best you got. That's that's all. Follow your
(10:02):
breath fully in fully and thirty times thirty times. Last
time you fully in, let it go on empty lungs.
He did forty pushups. You see, the breath is power.
If you know how to manipulate the nervous system, then
you are able to generate a much greater power.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
And you're breathing in through your nose and out.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, that it doesn't matter so much.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
It doesn't matter what you breathe out through your mouth
or out through your eu.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, it matters a little, they say, the nitrogen in
and through the nose. But if you do, it's such
a short period of time. You go just into the
depth of the whole body. You cleanse the body of
its biochemical residue which is caused by stress of daily life.
(10:55):
And therefore just breathe. Don't think about nasal breath. You know, Suria,
Beata and Chandra and kumbakas and all that. No, don't
be no difficulties if you. If you we go back
to potentially. Potentially says in the beginning Ata yoga yoga
(11:22):
or the yoga is the silencing of the modifications of
the thinking brain. Then the seer appears that unconditional power.
That is where I am aiming at. I just want
to go through the conditioned mind and body. And we
are doing the studies with the psychiatrists, neuroscientists, immunologists, and
(11:45):
it shows that we go where in science was stated
this is not possible for humans, et cetera, And now
it is. And that's my aim. Within a half hour,
I want people to feel their real power.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
So the first step is thirty breaths, full breaths in
and out. Yes, And do you recommend this doing this
first thing in the morning, or is there an empty stomach?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Empty stomach is of course at the best. Or where
you take shower, take also a cold shower and try
it out once that your push How many push ups
can you do if you look to this podcast and
you do only this bio hacking great trick thirty times
(12:33):
fully in relax on a chair or you sit on
the ground, and you know how many push ups you
can do? You want to see how you can influence
the neuromuscular mechanisms in the body for power. Just use
your breath. It's so simple.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
It's really interesting because if you look at boxes, they
all know the value of breath. If you look at athletes,
they all know the value of the breath. If you
look at musicians who play wind instruments, they know the
value of the breath. If you look at singers, they
know the value of the breath. So this is something
that we've known, but for some reason we haven't applied
(13:14):
it to normal life because we all are athletes in
our own way in an everyday life, and I think
we've lost connection with that. I remember when the first
day I went to join the monastery in India, I
saw a young monk teaching younger monks and I went
up to that young monk. He was like ten or
eleven years old, and I said, what did you teach them?
(13:35):
And he said, it's their first day of school? And
I said, oh, well, what did you teach them? And
he said what did you learn on your first day
of school? And I said maybe ABC one, two three,
I can't remember. And he said, well, I just taught
them how to breathe. And I said, what do you
mean you taught them how to breathe?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Oh, but this is important Jay here in America with
the shootings in the school. To simplify, a monkey has
difficulty learning how to swim, and the fish has difficulties
learning how to climb. Our minds and every person is different.
Some fit into the system and some don't. They get
(14:13):
conflict with their identity and so much when the stress
comes in and they still have to perform and give
results and cognitively keep on and they feel not good
compared to others, and all that might jeopardize the identity.
(14:33):
And that goes in many cases to where they lose it,
then they should their father, their mother, their siblings, and
then the people because they are completely lost. We should
bring regulation of emotions done by breathing. As you say,
(14:55):
he was totally right, this man. That was probably the
best lesson you got. The inquisitive nature always brings about answers. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Absolutely, And he was saying the same thing as you're saying.
He said that your breath is the only thing that
stays with you from the moment you're born to the
moment you die. He said, you'll change your country, you'll
change your family, you change your friends, like things change,
but your breath is always with you. And he said,
what changes when you're happy your breath? What changes when
(15:27):
you're sad your breath? What changes when you're angry? Your breath?
And so he said to me, if you learn to
manage your breath, you'll be able to manage any emotion
in life. Exactly like what you're saying. Yes, so you
have these three pillars, breathing, exercises, commitment, and then you
have the cold. Yes, what is commitment? What do you
mean by that?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
With commitment? Just do it, just do it regardless and
stay in that discipline. In the end, if you go
into an ice bath, you learn to control your thoughts
because you learn to shut up if you want it
yes or no. You learn to surrender, let the body
do what the body is capable of. Once you get that,
(16:08):
you get a control. Like in the beginning you said intension,
intention is inter reception, and now we found in Detroit
top down regulated inter reception, which is inter receptive focus,
and that is the will able to enter into the
body and to readjust what needs to be, what is
(16:31):
out of balance, to reconnect with the body. That is
what the colt learns to shut up and to connect
with the body, let the body do what the body
is capable. And then you become aware that you suddenly
willfully are able to control to make stronger your body
without moving, and that is top yoga like Darana Diana somebody.
(16:56):
Those things are now here and we have seen that
it activates the corona radiata and the corona radiata the
nerve endings in the human brain, which is the crown chakra,
the crown endings, the corona radiata, the radiant crown and
(17:16):
now is able to be activated by us because we
learn to surrender that means we learn to let go
and then we are able to full bloom activate our
brain capacity like one hundred percent willfully. That's where we
are in India. The in Bangalore. I'm going to receive
(17:39):
this Price Award for excellence in yoga. What is excellency
in yoga? Yoga means connecting. That's what I bring about
and make it simple. Breathing is so much more important
and we can cover within this hour. Yeah, within this podcast.
(18:01):
Just try it out once and raise the full power
part your conditioned mind and body through breathing. And we
have simplified these techniques now and made it so accessible
that the azoteric disciplines of all the religions, they come
knocking at our door. They say, this is highly esoteric,
(18:25):
this is mystical, and this is here waiting for any
person because God or what is mystical should be there
for everybody, absolutely every time, all the time.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
So you recommend that if ideally people do this on
an empty stomach first thing in the morning, it's going
to allow them to have more clarity, it's going to
allow them to have more energy, it's going to allow
them to focus better.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yes, it cleanses completely the emphatic system. All our daily
habits or activities result in as a biochemical residue. It
accumulates in our bodies and if we don't clean it,
then it obstructs our quality of life.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
How does breathing cleaner?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
If we do these breathing sessions within four rounds, you
will be able to get into the deepest of all systems,
to the deepest to the bone mirror, to the deepest
of your brain and learn to connect willfully. How does
it work? If we do this breathing, we blow off
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the carbon dioxide and then the alkalinity in the blood
goes way up. When it goes way up, you can
axhale and be without the need to breathe, because breathing
is because you become acidic. Now the acid is out
of the body and you are very alkaline. So you're
(19:55):
able to stay one and a half minute, two minutes
without breathing. After exhalation. Now, what happens in the brainstem
the reptilian, the crocodile brain, It says you are not breathing.
This is dangerous. It doesn't look to pH levels in
the blood. Is it alkaline or no? It looks to
(20:18):
oxygen and oxygen is completely depleted. And when that happens,
then the brainstem which is connected to the adrenal axis,
that is the third eye, pituitary gland, hypothalamus, and the
adrenal glands. Then it activates the adrenal axis just to
spike once in the body with twice as much adrenaline.
(20:44):
Then a person who goes for the first time into
a bungee jump in fear. Wow, they have measured the
blood of the people going into a bungee jump with
fear for vertigo. They took their blood and they took
the blood of the people doing this breathing technique, and
(21:05):
then they saw twice as much adrenal spike in the
blood for people doing this breeding technique. Now, what happens
with that double dose of adrenaline. It goes like hormones
into the spinal fluid. And this is where we manipulate.
This is breathing, the techniques manipulation of the key, the
(21:28):
g the prima, the prana. There's ten kinds. But hey, prana.
We call it prana, so we get it sublime. But
we make it simple. We say fully in thirty times
breathing and then axhale and stop and you don't feel
the need to breathe. Now, after one and a half
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minute of what happens if you don't breathe, Five times
more blood flows into the bread, five times more blood
flows into the art. Nobody knew until they did cardio
films on this, and they say this is the future.
This diagnostic cardiology. This is for the future breathing techniques
(22:14):
because it flushes like a battery the heart if it
functions too less, and that's terrible. If you got a
heart that is not strong enough, you can make it
stronger just through doing this. And five times more fluid
into the brain is flushing it now because there's twice
as much adrenaline hormonally in it. It cleanses everything anything
(22:39):
that should not be there that is flammatory markers, but
also pfas, also microplastics, also mRNA techniques, technology, whatever the
shit is, and radio waves, biochemical residue, therefrom all that
has influenced and we don't know how to clean it.
(23:02):
Through doing this, you just clean it.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Before we dive into the next moment, let's hear from
our sponsors. Thanks for taking a moment for that. Now
back to the discussion. It's such an interesting prospect that
we've been given the technology in how we've been created
in order to cleanse, to survive, to live, to heal.
But obviously, you know, today so many people are struggling
(23:26):
with anxiety, and a lot of people listening today. People
may have anxiety about meeting new people, people have anxiety
about their work, people have anxiety about relationships. There's so
much anxiety in the world. How can this help someone
who's struggling with anxiety. Is there a different breathing practice
or is it the same.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
One, exactly the same one that the simplicity is the power,
So just try it out. You will be able to
cleanse that what obstructs you, the quality of your life,
life underperformance when you need to perform. It really could
be a relationship, could be having a new job, interview,
(24:07):
could be a presentation on stage. Whatever is important to
you that you want to feel more than normal in
a functional power. That one needs cleaning, and this one
does it. This takes it away because your body knows
exactly what you are up against. But it is saying, hey,
(24:28):
you are anxious because you cannot function the way you
actually want because you're the shit inside, and we need
to get it out, and that's what it is saying.
So anxiety actually is a neuro signal said Telly, hey,
clean up before you go up, and you will see
(24:50):
that these simple breathing techniques will lead to suddenly, oh
it's easy on stage. All these ah lateness comes by itself.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Is it true that this can also help us get
less sick less often?
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Absolutely? It has been shown in a scientific competitive study
people injected with the bacteria causing inflammation that means fever, headaches, vomiting, nausea,
muscle aches, back aches. But really three to six hours
is a controlled experiment. Sixteen thousand became very sick and
(25:28):
the twelve eye trained not sick. We already showed this
in twenty fourteen bacteria E. Coli virus. It's all the same.
We have, like you said, we got the mechanisms, but
we don't make use of our inner nature anymore to
(25:48):
take down what should not be in there, like sickness,
like anxiety, depression, inflammation of any kind. And it is
inventative as well. The thing is, if you do this
in the morning preemptively, then your day you are able
(26:09):
to accumulate a lot of stress without feeling that you
cannot deal with it.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, yeah, that's your clean yeah right. It's almost like
we could actually deal with more stress than we believe
if we were able to be in a state.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
And there you come into this emotional spiritual state to
take own challenges because you feel suddenly you don't feel
that awkward anxiety, fear, You don't feel it anymore, and
that makes you able to go into the challenges of life.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
You're saying something really important here, But I think the
challenge that people have is we've become seekers of an
even more comfortable life. If you look at everything we're
creating around us, so we can be more comfortable, be
more safe, and I mean even physically comfortable, and we
don't want to do something too challenging. We don't want
to do something that's uncomfortable. We don't seek discomfort. So
(27:06):
how do we encourage people to transform our mind to
realize that discomfort is what creates goodness in life and
comfort is what creates more problems. Laid down the line.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Exactly that, So comfort is a false feeling. It is
in the long term, it's really getting to you, and
it will cause psychosomatic disturbances in the body, it will
heap up, accumulate. The body needs cleaning, and for that
(27:42):
we need to go into a certain kind of stress.
If we stress our bodies up consciously, we learn to
connect with the stress mechanisms in the brain and body,
and with that the stress in daily life. Because if
you're escaping into comfort, behavior will not make you strong
(28:07):
for the shit that is going to happen anyway, so
better be ready before it. And we provide with these
simple techniques not only the ability to tackle stress in
life effectively, but also directly. When you did it, when
(28:27):
you take a cold so you feel good, Yeah, sure,
you give a little, you get so much more back.
And for people who are not motivated to do this,
don't wait until the shit comes to you. You go
to the shit. I say always. If you don't go
to the cold, the cold will come to you and
(28:48):
then you don't like it. So too much disease, too
much anxiety, too much depression, too much darkness, all is happening,
too much stress. It's all happening. We notice, and we
found a way to deal with it. We found the key,
and we just want to hand over out of love
and respect to the person this key.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
When I first started, I think I meant I took
cold showers when I was in the monastery. It was
very normal. But the first time I did a cold
plunge was probably around four or five years ago as well.
And I can honestly say that as someone who has
tried to get massages to feel relaxed and distressed, and
they probably get me to like a seventy eighty percent,
(29:34):
But sitting in the cold and doing the contrast therapy
of maybe ten to fifteen minutes in a sauna and
maybe three to five minutes in the cold, and then
doing it three times over, I have never felt that
level of relaxation or slept better than when I've done
the cold. Whether it's in the morning or the evening
that day, the whole body just feels loose in a
(29:56):
way that I've never felt. You'd assume it feels tight,
like you think when you get in the cold that
your body's just gonna like hold on, but it doesn't.
It does the opposite, Yes, and when you get out
you almost feel so much looser, calmer, less stress. But
that's not what the mind thinks. The mind thinks it's
probably gonna be really hot. It is challenging in the beginning.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
The first time I did it, I was in there
for four minutes because I was doing it with a
friend and we were trying to encourage each other. But
for someone who gets in there and just wants to
get out in the first ten seconds, how did they
get more comfortable with that discomfort? What should they do
if they're in there for ten seconds they're like, I
need to get out? Like, how do you get over
that hunch?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I just know that this really will bring about a
much greater control over stress in your daily life. You
only have to go through this, say a minute, once
you are a minute in, and anybody can do it.
Last weekend I had people of eighty years who never
(30:58):
had been in an ice berth. They went in for
ten minutes, ten minutes, and they loved it. I mean,
young people should not be in the mind thinking. Learn
to be in the body and then know that you
are able to enter into the body, into the depth,
(31:19):
and that will be yours for ten seconds. Yes, that
is your reaction of a body that never has been
in the cult. But you are very able. Let me
be very clear about it. You as a young person.
I'm talking to the person who's watching this, you are
(31:39):
very capable of staying one minute, and what happens then
your body is adapted. What that means is that you're
inner power is on and it's connecting to your will,
and with that you learn to take on stress of
daily life, which you don't need to escape of anymore.
(32:01):
You are able to confront yourself with difficult situations in
all the other areas. So that little bit of a
cold you're going to endure is going to give you
so much more back.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
It's funny how the mind when you're in it and
you finish it, you have a great experience, and then
the mind's like, I don't want to do it again.
It's really hard, like whatever, And then you have to
keep reminding yourself. And I've learned over time that things
that are good for you feel good after, and things
that are bad for you feel good before. Right, anything
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that's bad for you feels good before. You want to
eat badly, you want to drink badly, you want to
do anything. It feels amazing before, and then afterwards it's
like poison. It's like pain. But anything that's good for
you before you do it, you're stressed you're nervous, but
then after you do it, you feel the benefits, and
you have to keep reminding yourself of that value because
it's so easy to lose whim. How did you even
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discover the power of breath work and the power of
cold How did you even come to this for yourself?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yes, I was a young kid and very much in
the head.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
What were you worried about as a young kid? Because
I feel like, now, what were you worried? I'm intrigued because.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I think, herea my, this what I'm going to start? Yeah,
the same stuff as anybody. So I read a lot,
and I was philosophying, a lot of debate running in
my head crazy, and then one day I found this
irrational attraction intuitively to go into cold water. And when
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I did that, this circling this, it came from within rominating. Yes,
stopped right there, it's a this is it? I was
looking in philosophies and religions. What is it? What is love?
It's in you, It's there, it's alive, it's past thinking,
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and it's here now. And the cold has opened that
up to me, past my conditioning. Whatever I had learned.
Those are patterns. They keep you running in the same
conditioning and can be very stubborn. But the cold was
there and it went just straight through by which I started,
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I never stopped and when it was seventeen.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
So for you, it was almost the cold became the
pathway to enlightenment to yourself. Yes, that that was the
pathway because it just stopped the chatter. You can't hear
the noise because the noise becomes well, initially the noise
becomes oh God, it's so cold. Then what happens walk
us through? What that journey was?
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I think I was ready to take on that challenge
within me to get rid of the chatter. What is
that what makes me connect? Instead of chattering? I can say, Oh,
I meditate and I do this, and I do yoga posters,
and I'm very good at the adull and philosophy that
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one I was looking for. I found it and right now,
right now, it shows in a big study we did.
It's submitted that nature is a big scientific paper with
five hundred people and it says they compared it to
meditation and mindfulness, so that the stress reason has stress tools,
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mindfulness and meditation stress tools in the corporate world. So
we took people out of the corporate work, from the
corporate world with a lot of stress, and we took
them and we went through and doing this cold practice
and the breathing, and it shows that it is able
to make this ruminating through the stress of daily life
(35:59):
and having to perform and compete a constantly very high
up and the price House water Coopers people. They are
not into yoga or into galley whatever exercise. They need
to perform with numbers, accountancy, and it's very strenuous and
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arduous and all that they did this and they compared
thus the meditation and mindfulness with this, and it showed
that this is generating much more stress resilience, much higher
cognitive awareness and less stress experience and beyond all, much
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more trust in each other inter reception, inter receptive being.
They just had these feelings and the expressed it five
hundred people. What I want to say with that running
which I had a lot of people have and it
is not just think. It is related to the central
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nervous system and the stress accumulates in biochemistry that is
wrong by which we have no control over it. And
that is anxiety. And now we have the ability to
make it go away. The cold did it for me.
Then I started to do the breathing because I found
out in the cold, if I do a slower breathing deeply,
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I'm able to stay longer in I see water, Yes,
and those who are the findings. This is almost fifty
years ago. And then I started to calculate, Hey, if
that happens in the water, what happens when I do
it out of the water at home? And I did it.
And then I saw Old Di your crass Old or
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what I have been reading for the first time. I
saw it all. But that's not the goal. The goal
is the soul. Goal is God's providence to be direct
here past the chatterbox, and how to surrender, how to
let go, how to not think but be, and they
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are automatically naturally. From there you come into your purpose.
And this podcast is on purpose, the purpose of life itself.
Everybody is different, but everybody has a purpose from the heart,
not thinking from the mind. The heart is able to
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give confidence and trust and that power that goes and
takes on the challenges of life because the soul is indestructible,
and there is no fear, not even for death. Because
you are doing exactly why you are here for and
you feel it because God is at your side, is here.
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And that made me breakthrough with the cold, then the breathing,
and then I learned to control, which I showed in
Sydney lately in a brain scan. A nine and a
half thousand brain scan showed more or less the bandwidth
of what the brain activity is in humans. I did
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nothing in the brain scan, and I was within the
bandwidth of the brain activity of these people. And then
I did what you did in the beginning intention. I
went out for a half hour, did some breathing exercises,
but very strong intention, and let it be your body
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knows when you talk to it. That's a pure inter reception,
and you know how to move it if you just
have that faith, that power that in the reception. That's
what I did. And then I went back in to
the same brain scan. And then the professor saw what
he never had seen before, such an activity of the
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sub cortical higher functioning of the brain. That is, confidence, fantasy, creativity, trust, empathy,
all those areas now willfully completely activated. He saw this,
and this people say, I made you at the ice man,
you can do that. No, no, no, no, no no, excuse.
(40:25):
I only show what we all can do. And then
places like here a podcast, a platform which you make
a made available, which is great work. Thank you, Thank
you for the whole white world. They say make America healthy.
I say, let's make the whole white world healthy. And
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it happens through these things, absolutely, faith.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Something you said just really stood out to me in
a way that it hasn't before. And you just said
that when we talk to our body, it hears us.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
And I was just thinking in a really simple way
when I think to myself, I'm going to take a
glass of water, that is me talking to my body. Yes,
And my body just did that. And then I'm like, oh, yeah,
I'm going to drink some water. And then I drink
and it's like I am talking to my body even
in the simplest of tasks that I do every day,
(41:20):
Because when we hear oh, you can talk to your
body and it hears you think it's some mystical thing,
but the truth is we're all doing it right now.
Like even me lifting my hand, I'm first thinking it
and I'm talking to myself. I'm about to lift my hand.
I'm going to shake whim's hand. I'm going to meet him.
I'm going to greet him. It's I'm already doing that.
But then we forget that we can also code our
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mind and our body with emotion, with intention, with feelings,
with states.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
With a purpose, with a purpose, and getting there and
make the impossible happening past our condition mind and body
that now is on the threshold where I'm working with
these universities and showing for examples, twenty six people emotional distress.
(42:07):
They cannot get out of it. They got PTSD, people
dying within their family, divorces, and they are really victims
in that. I mean, they cannot get out these loops.
It keeps anxiety pure anxiety is very tiring. They are exhausted.
(42:29):
They went into this study. It took only one afternoon
to break those patterns. Wow, and that's the way. And
you know what happens that the next thing is that
they got the feeling, that they got the steering wheel.
Their confidence suddenly is there and suddenly they feel their
(42:50):
purpose of life that they can take on the challenges
twenty six people. We just did the study scientifically, and
all that's shows that we not only here to drink
a glass of water. We are here to drink the
full cup of life and to pass it on to
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our kids fully in confidence and trust and in love
and beauty and power and energy and flow make a paradise.
I'm here to show scientifically that autonomy is ours, that
we have a control far deeper than in science was
(43:33):
thought possible. But now it's here. And through the pharmaceutical
industry and the whole industry and the governments, they are
quite ignorant. Let me tell you that. So we need
to stand up like podcasts like this. We need to
become autonomousts. Not believe in governments, but govern ourselves because
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we are good people all all the sorts where we
got there. Our soil is goodness deriving from and we
should be able to have faith in the goodness of ourselves.
And we bring through these tools autonomy to the people
so they feel confident that they have control over the
(44:18):
sub cortical areas of the brain. We called to subconscious
and all they told us that is only sixteen percent
that we can control. It's one hundred. Sorry, it's one hundred.
And I'm showing that in brain scans. And now we
are shown with cannabinoid receptors, how we are able to
(44:39):
create flow in the body, which is a natural state
of ours. We only got conditioned. And if we look
at society, too many wars, too many depressions, too many inflammation,
too many anxiety and all we can shoot people to
the moon. That's become happy, strong and how I made
(45:00):
a song on that. By the way, it's called Sacha.
My roots are in India.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Do you do you practice montra meditation as well? Like
as you were just singing and chanting right now, I.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Did a lot of that now, mantras, the rap, patitive,
citing words, sounds I'm singing. Yeah, all day should be meditated.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, it's the culture of India. Yeah,
it's not even just repetition of word. It's singing, it's dancing,
it's chanting, it's it's really beautiful.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Meditation should be your natural joyful.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
It's almost like it's a soundtrack to your life. That's
how I think about it when I think about montraal meditation,
it's it's almost like you're listening to a soundtrack, but
the soundtracks within your own heart and consciousness, and that
repeated is kind of creating the rhythm of your life.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, if you sing, you love it. Yeah, you can
yell out at your heart. You let your heart breathe.
It feels great.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Before we dive into the next moment, let's hear from
our sponsors and back to our episode. I wanted to
talk to you about willpower because you talk a lot
about willpower, and you talk about how people with low
willpower make poorer choices in life. Can you define for
us what willpower is? In your opinion, willpower is the
(46:32):
ability to have control within It's the sixth and seven
cents and eight cents willpower, Darana concentration. If I stay
one hour in icy water, I need darana.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
I need concentration. I need to control my core body
temperature to control the nervous system while I'm in this
very stressful environment and data. This is willfully connecting and
that makes my body strong. So anytime I need to concentrate,
(47:09):
using that connection with my central nervous system, which I
exercised in cold water, and it doesn't need an hour,
and it only needs you adapting. Adapting is two three minutes.
Then you are naturally connected with your central nervous system,
which is the instrument of the willpower. You just need
(47:34):
to learn to connect. Don't make it too complicated in yourself,
because it hasn't got to do anything with your thinking.
It's taken on the challenge and your body adapts. Doesn't
matter what it is, heat, cold, stress on the stage
doesn't matter. You learn to take on instead of ruminating
(47:58):
about it. You go into it because you have control
over the central nervous system, which is a connection of
the prefrontal cortex and the central nervous system is everywhere
and it adapts. How far do you want to go?
I tell people if I get people motivated. Last time
(48:20):
I went on the Kilimanjaro in shorts was with a
man who was seventy six years old. Seventy six, He
had no experience in climbing. He was suffering from Lyme's disease,
his debilitating condition, and he had to go in shorts,
and he wanted to do this in record time what
(48:42):
young people cannot do so and I looked in his
eyes and I saw connection. I saw motivation. Motivation is
the right connection with your central nervous You really want
it because you really are there. I went with him,
and this is a mountain you can do between five
(49:04):
and nine days fully dressed, because it's very cold up
there and is half the oxygen and less, and you
need oxygen to combust for energy and it's not there.
So five to nine days and then forty percent only
summit fully dressed. This man did it in thirty one
(49:26):
hours in his shorts. What you know what happened? His
lime's disease was also gone at the same time. What
is willpower? It's there? Do you got it? Do you
really want it? It's there and it's not complicated. Wow,
and you can test it that it is able to
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go way past what you think you can do, and
it takes a half hour. Just try this out. We
simplify these techniques so to make it usable tools. Then
it's only a matter of choice. What do you want
(50:09):
with it? Because you will be able as you shoot,
owning your own mind and body in its full splendor.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Whim you've done so many difficult, challenging things, you encourage
people to do them with you as well. What's the
hardest thing you believe you've ever overcome?
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Who at a certain moment, I could do a world record?
Every day? You know, you get your body ready and
the connection is in the flow. Every day you can
run a marathon barefoot outside in the snow, or stay
two hours in icy water, do crazy stuff. And at
(50:51):
a certain moment I were thinking to myself, actually, I
don't want some ridiculous new challenge doing. I showed enough
and what I want right now, and that might be
the most difficult is to settle down and to let
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hundreds and millions of people are doing what I'm doing. Now.
This is real. With or without my name doesn't matter.
I started this. This is my mission. My mother told
me to do this and to be the missionary. I
did it. I got to the Catholic Church itself, to
the esoteric departments of the Catholic Church, the best of them.
(51:34):
They came to me that my mother is in peace.
So right now I want to go on. I want
to go on on my own and the challenges. I
want to reach billions of people, which is happening. That
is the power of faith that keeps on going. When
actually I thought I did my mission, I will be
(51:58):
keeping on going, of course, I actually it's a normal
life is a bit boring. I want to change the world,
and that it can be difficult. I don't care. I
love well, whom.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
I think it's very clear that you have no doubt
been the modern greatest proponent of breath work, of spending
time in the cold and cold exposure. I don't think
there's anyone else who is not only popularized, but taught
those principles and made them as big and as famous
and popular as they are now. And honestly, all that
(52:35):
credit goes to you, for sure. I don't think those
conversations were being had in the modern world, and so
I thank you for doing that, because it's a it's
such a great unlock for the world to recognize the
power that can be there for free. Right, you don't
have to pay for breath work. You don't have to
pay to have a culture hour every day. Freedom is
for free exactly. Autonomy is there, and we want to
(52:59):
bring is love. Yeah, we want to bring love to
the people. We want them to be able to feel
good whenever they feel bad.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
You do that, I do that. That's why we are
here talk to each other. Five years ago we talked
and it's the same right there. That's the war we
gotta win.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
Absolutely general. Yes, your energy is infectious. I love it.
It's such a like and my team was telling me,
just just to let everyone know. My team was telling me,
you walked here today to my house? How long was
that journey?
Speaker 1 (53:35):
An hour and a quarter?
Speaker 2 (53:36):
Is that all?
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Yeah, okay, Yeah, it's pretty impressive. I think it might
have taken people a bit longer than that.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
Yeah, it's a nice walk. I was way too earlier.
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
Buddy. You live, you live, You live everything like it
was hot today. It was a hotter day in la
You walked here from your hotel or wherever you're staying,
like it's it's amazing because you live and breathe this
like this is who you are. And some of my friends,
Lewis House is a good friend of mine, and he
brought a lot of friends to you a few years
ago in Poland. They had the best time, and everyone
(54:11):
came out of that just saying they couldn't believe how
much time they spent in the cold. And I think
that's my favorite thing about what you unlock for people
beyond the breath, beyond the cold, is we don't know
what we're capable of. We have no idea what this
body and this mind is capable of doing. And if
everyone listening and watching can remember that you are so
(54:33):
much more capable than you believe you are. You're able
to do so much more than you think you can.
Your mind and body are so much stronger than you
believe they are. If you walk away with that message
from today, that will change your life, because in your
head you think you're a lot more limited than you
actually are.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
If people take one message, love is where you are
able to make that what is going bad within good
and that love we want to share and it's not complicated.
Just try it out once and then you will see
for yourselfse feeling is understanding.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Whim A couple of last questions. We've talked about the
mental and physical health benefits. What benefits do you see
for society at large if they practice your method?
Speaker 1 (55:25):
I think it is the soul itself we are now
being approached. I wasn't the Middle East with the Catholic
Church with the highest esoteric departments about providence of God's
providence and the mortification about deep religious practices. They are
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taking this all on and see that God's presence itself
comes much better to word the moment again, and that
is unconditional love to me, and that is now accessible
also for anybody else. So we made God accessible, the
(56:09):
unconditional love accessible, just by learning how to surrender, and
to show scientifically that we are capable of controlling this
deep autonomic nervous system, central nervous system much better than
we have learned in our schools to battle inflammation, depression,
(56:30):
and energy itself. It's all there and it's not complicated.
If you take something away, just do it once.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
How can people understand that breathing and being in the
cold and surrendering ultimately leads you to God, Because I
think a lot of people are doing it. They do
it for the health benefits, they do it for the
physical benefits. They may not even understand the concept of surrender,
which is what happened actually happening when you're in the water.
You have to how do you connect that dot for people?
(57:03):
Or is it just something people have to do and
they'll get there.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
During this conversation we already actually talked about it. It's
your purpose, yes, yes, Once you are driven by your purpose,
it's like if you love somebody, you just there's nothing
that can stop you. If you get your purpose. By
learning to control fear, to have a deeper control over
(57:26):
the central nervous system inside which we showed within a
half hour. Then suddenly fear doesn't block you anymore, the
quality of life doesn't you take on the challenges. Suddenly
our nature is to take on challenges, to take away blockages,
to live up to our purpose. And our purpose is
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rooted in goodness, and that once we are in that power,
we are stronger than what we think, because love is
stronger than what you think. That is happening. I'm not
going to go into philosophies, because this is not about philosophies.
But the best philosophers they come now saying they are
(58:13):
recognizing that the real core principle of the best of
philosophy is being done by doing this. So I take that,
but this is not my starting point yet. I take
it as Hey, these people, they are experts in those
(58:35):
fields of what is God, how to behave there, how
to do, how to practice and all. They are coming
and they say that this and it makes sense to me.
But I say, feeling is understanding. If you do this,
then God will be there. I have no doubt. God's
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presence is a goodness that is a root within every
person in the world, and this makes all the blockages
go away. You connect and your purpose is like a flower,
is like a strong power, It goes past your thinking.
Speaker 2 (59:14):
Last question, you've talked before about this, but you talked
about losing your wife and how that was such a
transformative moment in your life even though it was tragic.
And you've talked today about the definition of love is
being able to transform something that felt like pain into
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something good or purposeful. What helped you grieve and what
helped you walk through that grief?
Speaker 1 (59:41):
Yeah, grief, and we did a lately a grief studier
and her chose within one afternoon, people are able to
get out of these patterns.
Speaker 2 (59:52):
Through breath work.
Speaker 1 (59:53):
And yes, because neurologically you are connected with the love
of your life. She was the mother of my fol
children and she still is and we gotta completely honored
she is here the afterlife. But that there's another discussion.
She is here, she's with us, and I'm with her children,
(01:00:16):
and we have a very successful enterprise in the whole
world on breathing, a mission to bring love and how
to de block So when I went grieving about her
losing her in a suicide, the mother of my children,
the love of my life, nothing could help me, except
(01:00:38):
for going into cold water. Cold water makes your mind
shut up. Different areas of the brain suddenly start to
be activated. The sense of life. The brainstem is about survival,
just to live. What is the purpose of life? To
(01:00:59):
be alive? Fully? So it started over there. It opened
a little bit my grief. It stopped my grief in
those moments by which I opened up to myself, and
there the healing started. I became a person missing my wife,
(01:01:20):
missing the mother. But I've made my family for my family,
my kids, with very little money, a warm nest and
a lot of energy. And that's because I could heal within.
And we still have her in all our honor, and
(01:01:41):
we can still think about all the emotions. But here
we are from there, from that negative story. This movement
now is evolving. So I've learned of the grief, I've
learned of my negativity inside, my darkness inside, and come out,
(01:02:07):
and so can anybody else. This is what we are
showing now in scientific studies. People who also have loss
of family members or divorces can be very strong inside
or PTSD the gruelsome situations of war inside, and you
(01:02:28):
can't change your behavior anymore. You're in despair. This breaks it.
So it broke me back then, and I had to
find it. It's science and it works for millions of people.
Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
I thank you for your work. I'm grateful to have
spoken to you twice. I'm hoping that everyone who's listening
and watching downloads the Whimhoff method to actually practice it,
to breathe every morning. What I really wish for you
is that for the next seven days, just seven days,
if you can start your day with the wim Off
(01:03:07):
method on an empty stomach, just watch how your life
changes just seven days of either the breath work or
the cold shower, whichever one you can. If you do both, amazing,
but just either one of them, and just watch how
your life changes. Because this is all about testing, it's
all about practicing, it's all about building it. And I
don't want you to think that you've got to learn
(01:03:29):
a new technique or whatever it may be. This is
really really simple. Women's made it absolutely accessible for each
and every one of us. And I think one of
the things that I'm going to do based off of
this is just constantly remind myself that whenever you think
you've reached a limit, to realize that that's actually not
(01:03:49):
the limit. Your mind and body can do so much more.
So thank you so much, Whim. Please read the wim
Off Method, download the wim Half Method, follow wim on
social media across platform, and I'm sure we're going to
meet again and continue this mission to you.
Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Love your work you, I respect it, and thank you
so much. I came yesterday all the way out of Europe,
and tonight I fly on. Maybe not so good for
the ecological footprint, but I had to see you. I
had to be with you, and it's worth while all.
Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Thank you, Thank you very much, thank you, Thank you
so much for listening to this conversation. If you enjoyed it,
you'll love my chat with Adam Grant on why discomfort
is the key to growth and the strategies for unlocking
your hidden potential. If you know you want to be
more and achieve more this year, go check it out
(01:04:43):
right now.
Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
You set a goal today, you achieve it in six months,
and then by the time it happens, it's almost a relief.
There's no sense of meaning and purpose. You sort of
expected it, and you would have been disappointed if it
didn't happen.
What if we could control the deep autonomic nervous system.
The immune system. Inflammation is the course and effect of
actually every disease. I'm into healing, into bringing down inflammation,
and that is what I give to people within an hour.
So better control over the immune system, better control over
(00:22):
the central nervous system, and you learn to clean the
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Actic Modern Life, the number one health and wellness podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Jay Sheety Jay Shetty, Hey, everyone, welcome back to On Purpose,
the place you come to become happier, healthier and more healed.
I am so grateful that you decided to tune in today.
Today's guest is truly an icon in this world, someone
(00:56):
that has been able to share prolific lessons, life changing
habits and practices that have transformed millions of people's lives.
His personal journey is also remarkable. I'm really excited to
reintroduce because we've had him on the podcast once. Please
welcome Wim Half Wim. It is such a joy. The
(01:18):
last time I interview it was on Zoom during the pandemic.
Today we're finally meeting for the first time and as
a fan of your work, and as a deep believer
in your work, I'm so excited to have you here,
so thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It's great to meet you in physical presence. I can
feel your energy. It's great. Yeah, you're really a good
man with very important work. Being here, I'm able to
transmit something new, organic life from the heart.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, thank you, Wim, thank you so much. And the
feeling is mutual. And I want to start by asking
you because what I find amazing is people like yourself
who've dedicated their lives to certain work. And I want
to to ask you, what do you believe in so deeply?
Why do you believe so deeply in your work and
the impact that it's making that allowed you to dedicate
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your whole life to it.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I think it was my mother at my birth who invocated.
Is a naive, god fearing mother, and yet in fear
that this baby was going to die. There was the
second baby, and nobody knew there was a second one.
I was too deep in so I was too long
and almost suffocated. I came through her fear and pushing
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and invocating, Oh God, let this child live. I will
make him a missionary. So I don't think it is
my drive, but it is invocated by my mother, a
naive mother. Yet god fearing is a formula. It is
a powerful formula that is impregnated. It's tattooed on my soul.
(02:58):
While I was nothing more than a purple little nothing
coming out there, defenseless, and yet there her invocation came
right into me. And how that all works. It works
because I've been talking to her. And when I was twelve,
I told my friends, if the world thinks that's the
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way it begins to reveal itself, twelve years, you start
thinking about what is life. If the world think that
is a hunger, abuse, pollution, disease, darkness, depression is normal,
then I think it is sick and I'm going to
do something about it. And what I do not know,
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I just do it. That is where it came from.
And since then it starts, and every moment is a drop.
After forty to fifty years to draw all those drops
have become a tsunami, a way through the thick wall
of ignorance, because I think it is all sickness, disease, darkness, depression, wars, pollution,
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et cetera. Is just based in ignorance. So I've come
up with a way looking in nature, not in books.
Something that works that makes that overwrites my mind of
all that has been filled up with. And then the
cold water came in, and from the cold water you
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learn to breathe different, and with that deep breathing you
go past the conditioning, and then you see all what
has been written for real here now and then, because
it is so close, it's so direct, I had no
need for looking in esoteric books anymore, traditions, languages, religions,
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anything like that. No, God was suddenly here and now
this is. It was the first time my feeling when
I went into the core order, and I've been doing
it since ever. And you know what, it was my
mother's invocation. She was God fearing, Catholic and all. And
right now the priests of the Catholic Church itself, the doctors,
(05:20):
the theologists, they are coming and they are integrating the
Whimhoff method in the deep religious esoteric disciplines of the Church,
which is equal's mysticism of Islam, Hinduism, Taoism, Buddhism. It's
all the same layer. And that layer now has been
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hit and recognized by the best in the Catholic Church.
The most learned of men. And if they are able
to recognize that, then I say I am not into
an abstracting knowledge in philosophies and azo theoretic disciplines making
(06:05):
it all so difficult. Make God where is He? Where
is He? If we go and it is recognized by
the best of them to be a highly esoteric discipline,
then now the discipline is there for everybody accessible in
a half hour. That means God is back.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
For someone who has no idea what the whim Hoff
method is, how would you break it down for them
and introduce them.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
To It is simple, It is scientifically endorsed, and I'm
inviting all the time. I got big studies done recently
they are into publishing and it all shows the effectivity
to go past our normal control, willful control within our bodies.
(06:53):
What if we could control emotion? What if we could
control the deep autonomic news of a system, the immune system.
Those matters are now present and shown in signs that
we are able to control that. So that is based
through very simple techniques.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
And what would change if we could control those before
we know the techniques. If we could control those systems,
what does that mean for humans? What are the benefits.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Oh, there is some multiple benefits from inflammation. Inflammation is
the cause and effect of actually every disease. And we
showed that people injected with the bacteria could withstand the
influence of the bacteria on the immune system. Thus the
inflammation which normally happens within that controlled experiment, this time
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it doesn't happen. So people bring down the course and
effect of disease, which is inflammation. And we showed that
in science. Now we see where we are in the
world with the COVID. When there was COVID, we had
to talk and medicines and pills. It's all money, money, money, money, money.
(08:11):
So I'm into healing, into bringing down inflammation. That that
is what I give to people. Within an hour. The
techniques come within an hour. Before they thought, how much
time does it take for people to learn what you
can do bringing down the inflammation after an injection of
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a bacteria, Does it take a year one to have
here A said ten days and then it became four days,
and now is a half hour. So better control over
the immune system, better control over the central nervous system,
which includes our emotions. So our emotions become much more
(08:56):
pacified by doing this and you learn to clean the
biochemical residue, which is the result of our daily life,
actic daily modern life. So we bring our emotions, learn
to regulate our emotions. We get a lot more energy
(09:17):
because of the cardiovascular fitness. Workout, a cold shower, it's
so easy. Also, it's remarkable. There was just last week
I wasn't Poland with five hundred people in the mountains
and there was one guy saying, oh wait, I'm doing
the cold and I'm doing this, but my results get lower.
I say, come forward, come here on stage. So how
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many pushups can you do? And he said fifteen? Now
breathe this way for thirty times, fully in, lady, go
fully and be with your mind in one thing. You
give the best you got. That's that's all. Follow your
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breath fully in fully and thirty times thirty times. Last
time you fully in, let it go on empty lungs.
He did forty pushups. You see, the breath is power.
If you know how to manipulate the nervous system, then
you are able to generate a much greater power.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
And you're breathing in through your nose and out.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, that it doesn't matter so much.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
It doesn't matter what you breathe out through your mouth
or out through your eu.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, it matters a little, they say, the nitrogen in
and through the nose. But if you do, it's such
a short period of time. You go just into the
depth of the whole body. You cleanse the body of
its biochemical residue which is caused by stress of daily life.
(10:55):
And therefore just breathe. Don't think about nasal breath. You know, Suria,
Beata and Chandra and kumbakas and all that. No, don't
be no difficulties if you. If you we go back
to potentially. Potentially says in the beginning Ata yoga yoga
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or the yoga is the silencing of the modifications of
the thinking brain. Then the seer appears that unconditional power.
That is where I am aiming at. I just want
to go through the conditioned mind and body. And we
are doing the studies with the psychiatrists, neuroscientists, immunologists, and
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it shows that we go where in science was stated
this is not possible for humans, et cetera, And now
it is. And that's my aim. Within a half hour,
I want people to feel their real power.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
So the first step is thirty breaths, full breaths in
and out. Yes, And do you recommend this doing this
first thing in the morning, or is there an empty stomach?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Empty stomach is of course at the best. Or where
you take shower, take also a cold shower and try
it out once that your push How many push ups
can you do if you look to this podcast and
you do only this bio hacking great trick thirty times
(12:33):
fully in relax on a chair or you sit on
the ground, and you know how many push ups you
can do? You want to see how you can influence
the neuromuscular mechanisms in the body for power. Just use
your breath. It's so simple.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
It's really interesting because if you look at boxes, they
all know the value of breath. If you look at athletes,
they all know the value of the breath. If you
look at musicians who play wind instruments, they know the
value of the breath. If you look at singers, they
know the value of the breath. So this is something
that we've known, but for some reason we haven't applied
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it to normal life because we all are athletes in
our own way in an everyday life, and I think
we've lost connection with that. I remember when the first
day I went to join the monastery in India, I
saw a young monk teaching younger monks and I went
up to that young monk. He was like ten or
eleven years old, and I said, what did you teach them?
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And he said, it's their first day of school? And
I said, oh, well, what did you teach them? And
he said what did you learn on your first day
of school? And I said maybe ABC one, two three,
I can't remember. And he said, well, I just taught
them how to breathe. And I said, what do you
mean you taught them how to breathe?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Oh, but this is important Jay here in America with
the shootings in the school. To simplify, a monkey has
difficulty learning how to swim, and the fish has difficulties
learning how to climb. Our minds and every person is different.
Some fit into the system and some don't. They get
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conflict with their identity and so much when the stress
comes in and they still have to perform and give
results and cognitively keep on and they feel not good
compared to others, and all that might jeopardize the identity.
(14:33):
And that goes in many cases to where they lose it,
then they should their father, their mother, their siblings, and
then the people because they are completely lost. We should
bring regulation of emotions done by breathing. As you say,
(14:55):
he was totally right, this man. That was probably the
best lesson you got. The inquisitive nature always brings about answers. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Absolutely, And he was saying the same thing as you're saying.
He said that your breath is the only thing that
stays with you from the moment you're born to the
moment you die. He said, you'll change your country, you'll
change your family, you change your friends, like things change,
but your breath is always with you. And he said,
what changes when you're happy your breath? What changes when
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you're sad your breath? What changes when you're angry? Your breath?
And so he said to me, if you learn to
manage your breath, you'll be able to manage any emotion
in life. Exactly like what you're saying. Yes, so you
have these three pillars, breathing, exercises, commitment, and then you
have the cold. Yes, what is commitment? What do you
mean by that?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
With commitment? Just do it, just do it regardless and
stay in that discipline. In the end, if you go
into an ice bath, you learn to control your thoughts
because you learn to shut up if you want it
yes or no. You learn to surrender, let the body
do what the body is capable of. Once you get that,
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you get a control. Like in the beginning you said intension,
intention is inter reception, and now we found in Detroit
top down regulated inter reception, which is inter receptive focus,
and that is the will able to enter into the
body and to readjust what needs to be, what is
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out of balance, to reconnect with the body. That is
what the colt learns to shut up and to connect
with the body, let the body do what the body
is capable. And then you become aware that you suddenly
willfully are able to control to make stronger your body
without moving, and that is top yoga like Darana Diana somebody.
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Those things are now here and we have seen that
it activates the corona radiata and the corona radiata the
nerve endings in the human brain, which is the crown chakra,
the crown endings, the corona radiata, the radiant crown and
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now is able to be activated by us because we
learn to surrender that means we learn to let go
and then we are able to full bloom activate our
brain capacity like one hundred percent willfully. That's where we
are in India. The in Bangalore. I'm going to receive
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this Price Award for excellence in yoga. What is excellency
in yoga? Yoga means connecting. That's what I bring about
and make it simple. Breathing is so much more important
and we can cover within this hour. Yeah, within this podcast.
(18:01):
Just try it out once and raise the full power
part your conditioned mind and body through breathing. And we
have simplified these techniques now and made it so accessible
that the azoteric disciplines of all the religions, they come
knocking at our door. They say, this is highly esoteric,
(18:25):
this is mystical, and this is here waiting for any
person because God or what is mystical should be there
for everybody, absolutely every time, all the time.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
So you recommend that if ideally people do this on
an empty stomach first thing in the morning, it's going
to allow them to have more clarity, it's going to
allow them to have more energy, it's going to allow
them to focus better.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yes, it cleanses completely the emphatic system. All our daily
habits or activities result in as a biochemical residue. It
accumulates in our bodies and if we don't clean it,
then it obstructs our quality of life.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
How does breathing cleaner?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
If we do these breathing sessions within four rounds, you
will be able to get into the deepest of all systems,
to the deepest to the bone mirror, to the deepest
of your brain and learn to connect willfully. How does
it work? If we do this breathing, we blow off
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the carbon dioxide and then the alkalinity in the blood
goes way up. When it goes way up, you can
axhale and be without the need to breathe, because breathing
is because you become acidic. Now the acid is out
of the body and you are very alkaline. So you're
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able to stay one and a half minute, two minutes
without breathing. After exhalation. Now, what happens in the brainstem
the reptilian, the crocodile brain, It says you are not breathing.
This is dangerous. It doesn't look to pH levels in
the blood. Is it alkaline or no? It looks to
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oxygen and oxygen is completely depleted. And when that happens,
then the brainstem which is connected to the adrenal axis,
that is the third eye, pituitary gland, hypothalamus, and the
adrenal glands. Then it activates the adrenal axis just to
spike once in the body with twice as much adrenaline.
(20:44):
Then a person who goes for the first time into
a bungee jump in fear. Wow, they have measured the
blood of the people going into a bungee jump with
fear for vertigo. They took their blood and they took
the blood of the people doing this breathing technique, and
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then they saw twice as much adrenal spike in the
blood for people doing this breeding technique. Now, what happens
with that double dose of adrenaline. It goes like hormones
into the spinal fluid. And this is where we manipulate.
This is breathing, the techniques manipulation of the key, the
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g the prima, the prana. There's ten kinds. But hey, prana.
We call it prana, so we get it sublime. But
we make it simple. We say fully in thirty times
breathing and then axhale and stop and you don't feel
the need to breathe. Now, after one and a half
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minute of what happens if you don't breathe, Five times
more blood flows into the bread, five times more blood
flows into the art. Nobody knew until they did cardio
films on this, and they say this is the future.
This diagnostic cardiology. This is for the future breathing techniques
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because it flushes like a battery the heart if it
functions too less, and that's terrible. If you got a
heart that is not strong enough, you can make it
stronger just through doing this. And five times more fluid
into the brain is flushing it now because there's twice
as much adrenaline hormonally in it. It cleanses everything anything
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that should not be there that is flammatory markers, but
also pfas, also microplastics, also mRNA techniques, technology, whatever the
shit is, and radio waves, biochemical residue, therefrom all that
has influenced and we don't know how to clean it.
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Through doing this, you just clean it.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Before we dive into the next moment, let's hear from
our sponsors. Thanks for taking a moment for that. Now
back to the discussion. It's such an interesting prospect that
we've been given the technology in how we've been created
in order to cleanse, to survive, to live, to heal.
But obviously, you know, today so many people are struggling
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with anxiety, and a lot of people listening today. People
may have anxiety about meeting new people, people have anxiety
about their work, people have anxiety about relationships. There's so
much anxiety in the world. How can this help someone
who's struggling with anxiety. Is there a different breathing practice
or is it the same.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
One, exactly the same one that the simplicity is the power,
So just try it out. You will be able to
cleanse that what obstructs you, the quality of your life,
life underperformance when you need to perform. It really could
be a relationship, could be having a new job, interview,
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could be a presentation on stage. Whatever is important to
you that you want to feel more than normal in
a functional power. That one needs cleaning, and this one
does it. This takes it away because your body knows
exactly what you are up against. But it is saying, hey,
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you are anxious because you cannot function the way you
actually want because you're the shit inside, and we need
to get it out, and that's what it is saying.
So anxiety actually is a neuro signal said Telly, hey,
clean up before you go up, and you will see
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that these simple breathing techniques will lead to suddenly, oh
it's easy on stage. All these ah lateness comes by itself.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Is it true that this can also help us get
less sick less often?
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Absolutely? It has been shown in a scientific competitive study
people injected with the bacteria causing inflammation that means fever, headaches, vomiting, nausea,
muscle aches, back aches. But really three to six hours
is a controlled experiment. Sixteen thousand became very sick and
(25:28):
the twelve eye trained not sick. We already showed this
in twenty fourteen bacteria E. Coli virus. It's all the same.
We have, like you said, we got the mechanisms, but
we don't make use of our inner nature anymore to
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take down what should not be in there, like sickness,
like anxiety, depression, inflammation of any kind. And it is
inventative as well. The thing is, if you do this
in the morning preemptively, then your day you are able
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to accumulate a lot of stress without feeling that you
cannot deal with it.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, yeah, that's your clean yeah right. It's almost like
we could actually deal with more stress than we believe
if we were able to be in a state.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
And there you come into this emotional spiritual state to
take own challenges because you feel suddenly you don't feel
that awkward anxiety, fear, You don't feel it anymore, and
that makes you able to go into the challenges of life.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
You're saying something really important here, But I think the
challenge that people have is we've become seekers of an
even more comfortable life. If you look at everything we're
creating around us, so we can be more comfortable, be
more safe, and I mean even physically comfortable, and we
don't want to do something too challenging. We don't want
to do something that's uncomfortable. We don't seek discomfort. So
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how do we encourage people to transform our mind to
realize that discomfort is what creates goodness in life and
comfort is what creates more problems. Laid down the line.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Exactly that, So comfort is a false feeling. It is
in the long term, it's really getting to you, and
it will cause psychosomatic disturbances in the body, it will
heap up, accumulate. The body needs cleaning, and for that
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we need to go into a certain kind of stress.
If we stress our bodies up consciously, we learn to
connect with the stress mechanisms in the brain and body,
and with that the stress in daily life. Because if
you're escaping into comfort, behavior will not make you strong
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for the shit that is going to happen anyway, so
better be ready before it. And we provide with these
simple techniques not only the ability to tackle stress in
life effectively, but also directly. When you did it, when
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you take a cold so you feel good, Yeah, sure,
you give a little, you get so much more back.
And for people who are not motivated to do this,
don't wait until the shit comes to you. You go
to the shit. I say always. If you don't go
to the cold, the cold will come to you and
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then you don't like it. So too much disease, too
much anxiety, too much depression, too much darkness, all is happening,
too much stress. It's all happening. We notice, and we
found a way to deal with it. We found the key,
and we just want to hand over out of love
and respect to the person this key.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
When I first started, I think I meant I took
cold showers when I was in the monastery. It was
very normal. But the first time I did a cold
plunge was probably around four or five years ago as well.
And I can honestly say that as someone who has
tried to get massages to feel relaxed and distressed, and
they probably get me to like a seventy eighty percent,
(29:34):
But sitting in the cold and doing the contrast therapy
of maybe ten to fifteen minutes in a sauna and
maybe three to five minutes in the cold, and then
doing it three times over, I have never felt that
level of relaxation or slept better than when I've done
the cold. Whether it's in the morning or the evening
that day, the whole body just feels loose in a
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way that I've never felt. You'd assume it feels tight,
like you think when you get in the cold that
your body's just gonna like hold on, but it doesn't.
It does the opposite, Yes, and when you get out
you almost feel so much looser, calmer, less stress. But
that's not what the mind thinks. The mind thinks it's
probably gonna be really hot. It is challenging in the beginning.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
The first time I did it, I was in there
for four minutes because I was doing it with a
friend and we were trying to encourage each other. But
for someone who gets in there and just wants to
get out in the first ten seconds, how did they
get more comfortable with that discomfort? What should they do
if they're in there for ten seconds they're like, I
need to get out? Like, how do you get over
that hunch?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I just know that this really will bring about a
much greater control over stress in your daily life. You
only have to go through this, say a minute, once
you are a minute in, and anybody can do it.
Last weekend I had people of eighty years who never
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had been in an ice berth. They went in for
ten minutes, ten minutes, and they loved it. I mean,
young people should not be in the mind thinking. Learn
to be in the body and then know that you
are able to enter into the body, into the depth,
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and that will be yours for ten seconds. Yes, that
is your reaction of a body that never has been
in the cult. But you are very able. Let me
be very clear about it. You as a young person.
I'm talking to the person who's watching this, you are
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very capable of staying one minute, and what happens then
your body is adapted. What that means is that you're
inner power is on and it's connecting to your will,
and with that you learn to take on stress of
daily life, which you don't need to escape of anymore.
(32:01):
You are able to confront yourself with difficult situations in
all the other areas. So that little bit of a
cold you're going to endure is going to give you
so much more back.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
It's funny how the mind when you're in it and
you finish it, you have a great experience, and then
the mind's like, I don't want to do it again.
It's really hard, like whatever, And then you have to
keep reminding yourself. And I've learned over time that things
that are good for you feel good after, and things
that are bad for you feel good before. Right, anything
(32:36):
that's bad for you feels good before. You want to
eat badly, you want to drink badly, you want to
do anything. It feels amazing before, and then afterwards it's
like poison. It's like pain. But anything that's good for
you before you do it, you're stressed you're nervous, but
then after you do it, you feel the benefits, and
you have to keep reminding yourself of that value because
it's so easy to lose whim. How did you even
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discover the power of breath work and the power of
cold How did you even come to this for yourself?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yes, I was a young kid and very much in
the head.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
What were you worried about as a young kid? Because
I feel like, now, what were you worried? I'm intrigued because.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I think, herea my, this what I'm going to start? Yeah,
the same stuff as anybody. So I read a lot,
and I was philosophying, a lot of debate running in
my head crazy, and then one day I found this
irrational attraction intuitively to go into cold water. And when
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I did that, this circling this, it came from within rominating. Yes,
stopped right there, it's a this is it? I was
looking in philosophies and religions. What is it? What is love?
It's in you, It's there, it's alive, it's past thinking,
(34:05):
and it's here now. And the cold has opened that
up to me, past my conditioning. Whatever I had learned.
Those are patterns. They keep you running in the same
conditioning and can be very stubborn. But the cold was
there and it went just straight through by which I started,
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I never stopped and when it was seventeen.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
So for you, it was almost the cold became the
pathway to enlightenment to yourself. Yes, that that was the
pathway because it just stopped the chatter. You can't hear
the noise because the noise becomes well, initially the noise
becomes oh God, it's so cold. Then what happens walk
us through? What that journey was?
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I think I was ready to take on that challenge
within me to get rid of the chatter. What is
that what makes me connect? Instead of chattering? I can say, Oh,
I meditate and I do this, and I do yoga posters,
and I'm very good at the adull and philosophy that
(35:13):
one I was looking for. I found it and right now,
right now, it shows in a big study we did.
It's submitted that nature is a big scientific paper with
five hundred people and it says they compared it to
meditation and mindfulness, so that the stress reason has stress tools,
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mindfulness and meditation stress tools in the corporate world. So
we took people out of the corporate work, from the
corporate world with a lot of stress, and we took
them and we went through and doing this cold practice
and the breathing, and it shows that it is able
to make this ruminating through the stress of daily life
(35:59):
and having to perform and compete a constantly very high
up and the price House water Coopers people. They are
not into yoga or into galley whatever exercise. They need
to perform with numbers, accountancy, and it's very strenuous and
(36:20):
arduous and all that they did this and they compared
thus the meditation and mindfulness with this, and it showed
that this is generating much more stress resilience, much higher
cognitive awareness and less stress experience and beyond all, much
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more trust in each other inter reception, inter receptive being.
They just had these feelings and the expressed it five
hundred people. What I want to say with that running
which I had a lot of people have and it
is not just think. It is related to the central
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nervous system and the stress accumulates in biochemistry that is
wrong by which we have no control over it. And
that is anxiety. And now we have the ability to
make it go away. The cold did it for me.
Then I started to do the breathing because I found
out in the cold, if I do a slower breathing deeply,
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I'm able to stay longer in I see water, Yes,
and those who are the findings. This is almost fifty
years ago. And then I started to calculate, Hey, if
that happens in the water, what happens when I do
it out of the water at home? And I did it.
And then I saw Old Di your crass Old or
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what I have been reading for the first time. I
saw it all. But that's not the goal. The goal
is the soul. Goal is God's providence to be direct
here past the chatterbox, and how to surrender, how to
let go, how to not think but be, and they
(38:14):
are automatically naturally. From there you come into your purpose.
And this podcast is on purpose, the purpose of life itself.
Everybody is different, but everybody has a purpose from the heart,
not thinking from the mind. The heart is able to
(38:35):
give confidence and trust and that power that goes and
takes on the challenges of life because the soul is indestructible,
and there is no fear, not even for death. Because
you are doing exactly why you are here for and
you feel it because God is at your side, is here.
(38:57):
And that made me breakthrough with the cold, then the breathing,
and then I learned to control, which I showed in
Sydney lately in a brain scan. A nine and a
half thousand brain scan showed more or less the bandwidth
of what the brain activity is in humans. I did
(39:18):
nothing in the brain scan, and I was within the
bandwidth of the brain activity of these people. And then
I did what you did in the beginning intention. I
went out for a half hour, did some breathing exercises,
but very strong intention, and let it be your body
(39:40):
knows when you talk to it. That's a pure inter reception,
and you know how to move it if you just
have that faith, that power that in the reception. That's
what I did. And then I went back in to
the same brain scan. And then the professor saw what
he never had seen before, such an activity of the
(40:03):
sub cortical higher functioning of the brain. That is, confidence, fantasy, creativity, trust, empathy,
all those areas now willfully completely activated. He saw this,
and this people say, I made you at the ice man,
you can do that. No, no, no, no, no no, excuse.
(40:25):
I only show what we all can do. And then
places like here a podcast, a platform which you make
a made available, which is great work. Thank you, Thank
you for the whole white world. They say make America healthy.
I say, let's make the whole white world healthy. And
(40:46):
it happens through these things, absolutely, faith.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Something you said just really stood out to me in
a way that it hasn't before. And you just said
that when we talk to our body, it hears us.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
And I was just thinking in a really simple way
when I think to myself, I'm going to take a
glass of water, that is me talking to my body. Yes,
And my body just did that. And then I'm like, oh, yeah,
I'm going to drink some water. And then I drink
and it's like I am talking to my body even
in the simplest of tasks that I do every day,
(41:20):
Because when we hear oh, you can talk to your
body and it hears you think it's some mystical thing,
but the truth is we're all doing it right now.
Like even me lifting my hand, I'm first thinking it
and I'm talking to myself. I'm about to lift my hand.
I'm going to shake whim's hand. I'm going to meet him.
I'm going to greet him. It's I'm already doing that.
But then we forget that we can also code our
(41:42):
mind and our body with emotion, with intention, with feelings,
with states.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
With a purpose, with a purpose, and getting there and
make the impossible happening past our condition mind and body
that now is on the threshold where I'm working with
these universities and showing for examples, twenty six people emotional distress.
(42:07):
They cannot get out of it. They got PTSD, people
dying within their family, divorces, and they are really victims
in that. I mean, they cannot get out these loops.
It keeps anxiety pure anxiety is very tiring. They are exhausted.
(42:29):
They went into this study. It took only one afternoon
to break those patterns. Wow, and that's the way. And
you know what happens that the next thing is that
they got the feeling, that they got the steering wheel.
Their confidence suddenly is there and suddenly they feel their
(42:50):
purpose of life that they can take on the challenges
twenty six people. We just did the study scientifically, and
all that's shows that we not only here to drink
a glass of water. We are here to drink the
full cup of life and to pass it on to
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our kids fully in confidence and trust and in love
and beauty and power and energy and flow make a paradise.
I'm here to show scientifically that autonomy is ours, that
we have a control far deeper than in science was
(43:33):
thought possible. But now it's here. And through the pharmaceutical
industry and the whole industry and the governments, they are
quite ignorant. Let me tell you that. So we need
to stand up like podcasts like this. We need to
become autonomousts. Not believe in governments, but govern ourselves because
(43:56):
we are good people all all the sorts where we
got there. Our soil is goodness deriving from and we
should be able to have faith in the goodness of ourselves.
And we bring through these tools autonomy to the people
so they feel confident that they have control over the
(44:18):
sub cortical areas of the brain. We called to subconscious
and all they told us that is only sixteen percent
that we can control. It's one hundred. Sorry, it's one hundred.
And I'm showing that in brain scans. And now we
are shown with cannabinoid receptors, how we are able to
(44:39):
create flow in the body, which is a natural state
of ours. We only got conditioned. And if we look
at society, too many wars, too many depressions, too many inflammation,
too many anxiety and all we can shoot people to
the moon. That's become happy, strong and how I made
(45:00):
a song on that. By the way, it's called Sacha.
My roots are in India.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Do you do you practice montra meditation as well? Like
as you were just singing and chanting right now, I.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Did a lot of that now, mantras, the rap, patitive,
citing words, sounds I'm singing. Yeah, all day should be meditated.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, it's the culture of India. Yeah,
it's not even just repetition of word. It's singing, it's dancing,
it's chanting, it's it's really beautiful.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Meditation should be your natural joyful.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
It's almost like it's a soundtrack to your life. That's
how I think about it when I think about montraal meditation,
it's it's almost like you're listening to a soundtrack, but
the soundtracks within your own heart and consciousness, and that
repeated is kind of creating the rhythm of your life.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, if you sing, you love it. Yeah, you can
yell out at your heart. You let your heart breathe.
It feels great.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Before we dive into the next moment, let's hear from
our sponsors and back to our episode. I wanted to
talk to you about willpower because you talk a lot
about willpower, and you talk about how people with low
willpower make poorer choices in life. Can you define for
us what willpower is? In your opinion, willpower is the
(46:32):
ability to have control within It's the sixth and seven
cents and eight cents willpower, Darana concentration. If I stay
one hour in icy water, I need darana.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
I need concentration. I need to control my core body
temperature to control the nervous system while I'm in this
very stressful environment and data. This is willfully connecting and
that makes my body strong. So anytime I need to concentrate,
(47:09):
using that connection with my central nervous system, which I
exercised in cold water, and it doesn't need an hour,
and it only needs you adapting. Adapting is two three minutes.
Then you are naturally connected with your central nervous system,
which is the instrument of the willpower. You just need
(47:34):
to learn to connect. Don't make it too complicated in yourself,
because it hasn't got to do anything with your thinking.
It's taken on the challenge and your body adapts. Doesn't
matter what it is, heat, cold, stress on the stage
doesn't matter. You learn to take on instead of ruminating
(47:58):
about it. You go into it because you have control
over the central nervous system, which is a connection of
the prefrontal cortex and the central nervous system is everywhere
and it adapts. How far do you want to go?
I tell people if I get people motivated. Last time
(48:20):
I went on the Kilimanjaro in shorts was with a
man who was seventy six years old. Seventy six, He
had no experience in climbing. He was suffering from Lyme's disease,
his debilitating condition, and he had to go in shorts,
and he wanted to do this in record time what
(48:42):
young people cannot do so and I looked in his
eyes and I saw connection. I saw motivation. Motivation is
the right connection with your central nervous You really want
it because you really are there. I went with him,
and this is a mountain you can do between five
(49:04):
and nine days fully dressed, because it's very cold up
there and is half the oxygen and less, and you
need oxygen to combust for energy and it's not there.
So five to nine days and then forty percent only
summit fully dressed. This man did it in thirty one
(49:26):
hours in his shorts. What you know what happened? His
lime's disease was also gone at the same time. What
is willpower? It's there? Do you got it? Do you
really want it? It's there and it's not complicated. Wow,
and you can test it that it is able to
(49:49):
go way past what you think you can do, and
it takes a half hour. Just try this out. We
simplify these techniques so to make it usable tools. Then
it's only a matter of choice. What do you want
(50:09):
with it? Because you will be able as you shoot,
owning your own mind and body in its full splendor.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Whim you've done so many difficult, challenging things, you encourage
people to do them with you as well. What's the
hardest thing you believe you've ever overcome?
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Who at a certain moment, I could do a world record?
Every day? You know, you get your body ready and
the connection is in the flow. Every day you can
run a marathon barefoot outside in the snow, or stay
two hours in icy water, do crazy stuff. And at
(50:51):
a certain moment I were thinking to myself, actually, I
don't want some ridiculous new challenge doing. I showed enough
and what I want right now, and that might be
the most difficult is to settle down and to let
(51:12):
hundreds and millions of people are doing what I'm doing. Now.
This is real. With or without my name doesn't matter.
I started this. This is my mission. My mother told
me to do this and to be the missionary. I
did it. I got to the Catholic Church itself, to
the esoteric departments of the Catholic Church, the best of them.
(51:34):
They came to me that my mother is in peace.
So right now I want to go on. I want
to go on on my own and the challenges. I
want to reach billions of people, which is happening. That
is the power of faith that keeps on going. When
actually I thought I did my mission, I will be
(51:58):
keeping on going, of course, I actually it's a normal
life is a bit boring. I want to change the world,
and that it can be difficult. I don't care. I
love well, whom.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
I think it's very clear that you have no doubt
been the modern greatest proponent of breath work, of spending
time in the cold and cold exposure. I don't think
there's anyone else who is not only popularized, but taught
those principles and made them as big and as famous
and popular as they are now. And honestly, all that
(52:35):
credit goes to you, for sure. I don't think those
conversations were being had in the modern world, and so
I thank you for doing that, because it's a it's
such a great unlock for the world to recognize the
power that can be there for free. Right, you don't
have to pay for breath work. You don't have to
pay to have a culture hour every day. Freedom is
for free exactly. Autonomy is there, and we want to
(52:59):
bring is love. Yeah, we want to bring love to
the people. We want them to be able to feel
good whenever they feel bad.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
You do that, I do that. That's why we are
here talk to each other. Five years ago we talked
and it's the same right there. That's the war we
gotta win.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
Absolutely general. Yes, your energy is infectious. I love it.
It's such a like and my team was telling me,
just just to let everyone know. My team was telling me,
you walked here today to my house? How long was
that journey?
Speaker 1 (53:35):
An hour and a quarter?
Speaker 2 (53:36):
Is that all?
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Yeah, okay, Yeah, it's pretty impressive. I think it might
have taken people a bit longer than that.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
Yeah, it's a nice walk. I was way too earlier.
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
Buddy. You live, you live, You live everything like it
was hot today. It was a hotter day in la
You walked here from your hotel or wherever you're staying,
like it's it's amazing because you live and breathe this
like this is who you are. And some of my friends,
Lewis House is a good friend of mine, and he
brought a lot of friends to you a few years
ago in Poland. They had the best time, and everyone
(54:11):
came out of that just saying they couldn't believe how
much time they spent in the cold. And I think
that's my favorite thing about what you unlock for people
beyond the breath, beyond the cold, is we don't know
what we're capable of. We have no idea what this
body and this mind is capable of doing. And if
everyone listening and watching can remember that you are so
(54:33):
much more capable than you believe you are. You're able
to do so much more than you think you can.
Your mind and body are so much stronger than you
believe they are. If you walk away with that message
from today, that will change your life, because in your
head you think you're a lot more limited than you
actually are.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
If people take one message, love is where you are
able to make that what is going bad within good
and that love we want to share and it's not complicated.
Just try it out once and then you will see
for yourselfse feeling is understanding.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Whim A couple of last questions. We've talked about the
mental and physical health benefits. What benefits do you see
for society at large if they practice your method?
Speaker 1 (55:25):
I think it is the soul itself we are now
being approached. I wasn't the Middle East with the Catholic
Church with the highest esoteric departments about providence of God's
providence and the mortification about deep religious practices. They are
(55:46):
taking this all on and see that God's presence itself
comes much better to word the moment again, and that
is unconditional love to me, and that is now accessible
also for anybody else. So we made God accessible, the
(56:09):
unconditional love accessible, just by learning how to surrender, and
to show scientifically that we are capable of controlling this
deep autonomic nervous system, central nervous system much better than
we have learned in our schools to battle inflammation, depression,
(56:30):
and energy itself. It's all there and it's not complicated.
If you take something away, just do it once.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
How can people understand that breathing and being in the
cold and surrendering ultimately leads you to God, Because I
think a lot of people are doing it. They do
it for the health benefits, they do it for the
physical benefits. They may not even understand the concept of surrender,
which is what happened actually happening when you're in the water.
You have to how do you connect that dot for people?
(57:03):
Or is it just something people have to do and
they'll get there.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
During this conversation we already actually talked about it. It's
your purpose, yes, yes, Once you are driven by your purpose,
it's like if you love somebody, you just there's nothing
that can stop you. If you get your purpose. By
learning to control fear, to have a deeper control over
(57:26):
the central nervous system inside which we showed within a
half hour. Then suddenly fear doesn't block you anymore, the
quality of life doesn't you take on the challenges. Suddenly
our nature is to take on challenges, to take away blockages,
to live up to our purpose. And our purpose is
(57:49):
rooted in goodness, and that once we are in that power,
we are stronger than what we think, because love is
stronger than what you think. That is happening. I'm not
going to go into philosophies, because this is not about philosophies.
But the best philosophers they come now saying they are
(58:13):
recognizing that the real core principle of the best of
philosophy is being done by doing this. So I take that,
but this is not my starting point yet. I take
it as Hey, these people, they are experts in those
(58:35):
fields of what is God, how to behave there, how
to do, how to practice and all. They are coming
and they say that this and it makes sense to me.
But I say, feeling is understanding. If you do this,
then God will be there. I have no doubt. God's
(58:57):
presence is a goodness that is a root within every
person in the world, and this makes all the blockages
go away. You connect and your purpose is like a flower,
is like a strong power, It goes past your thinking.
Speaker 2 (59:14):
Last question, you've talked before about this, but you talked
about losing your wife and how that was such a
transformative moment in your life even though it was tragic.
And you've talked today about the definition of love is
being able to transform something that felt like pain into
(59:34):
something good or purposeful. What helped you grieve and what
helped you walk through that grief?
Speaker 1 (59:41):
Yeah, grief, and we did a lately a grief studier
and her chose within one afternoon, people are able to
get out of these patterns.
Speaker 2 (59:52):
Through breath work.
Speaker 1 (59:53):
And yes, because neurologically you are connected with the love
of your life. She was the mother of my fol
children and she still is and we gotta completely honored
she is here the afterlife. But that there's another discussion.
She is here, she's with us, and I'm with her children,
(01:00:16):
and we have a very successful enterprise in the whole
world on breathing, a mission to bring love and how
to de block So when I went grieving about her
losing her in a suicide, the mother of my children,
the love of my life, nothing could help me, except
(01:00:38):
for going into cold water. Cold water makes your mind
shut up. Different areas of the brain suddenly start to
be activated. The sense of life. The brainstem is about survival,
just to live. What is the purpose of life? To
(01:00:59):
be alive? Fully? So it started over there. It opened
a little bit my grief. It stopped my grief in
those moments by which I opened up to myself, and
there the healing started. I became a person missing my wife,
(01:01:20):
missing the mother. But I've made my family for my family,
my kids, with very little money, a warm nest and
a lot of energy. And that's because I could heal within.
And we still have her in all our honor, and
(01:01:41):
we can still think about all the emotions. But here
we are from there, from that negative story. This movement
now is evolving. So I've learned of the grief, I've
learned of my negativity inside, my darkness inside, and come out,
(01:02:07):
and so can anybody else. This is what we are
showing now in scientific studies. People who also have loss
of family members or divorces can be very strong inside
or PTSD the gruelsome situations of war inside, and you
(01:02:28):
can't change your behavior anymore. You're in despair. This breaks it.
So it broke me back then, and I had to
find it. It's science and it works for millions of people.
Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
I thank you for your work. I'm grateful to have
spoken to you twice. I'm hoping that everyone who's listening
and watching downloads the Whimhoff method to actually practice it,
to breathe every morning. What I really wish for you
is that for the next seven days, just seven days,
if you can start your day with the wim Off
(01:03:07):
method on an empty stomach, just watch how your life
changes just seven days of either the breath work or
the cold shower, whichever one you can. If you do both, amazing,
but just either one of them, and just watch how
your life changes. Because this is all about testing, it's
all about practicing, it's all about building it. And I
don't want you to think that you've got to learn
(01:03:29):
a new technique or whatever it may be. This is
really really simple. Women's made it absolutely accessible for each
and every one of us. And I think one of
the things that I'm going to do based off of
this is just constantly remind myself that whenever you think
you've reached a limit, to realize that that's actually not
(01:03:49):
the limit. Your mind and body can do so much more.
So thank you so much, Whim. Please read the wim
Off Method, download the wim Half Method, follow wim on
social media across platform, and I'm sure we're going to
meet again and continue this mission to you.
Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Love your work you, I respect it, and thank you
so much. I came yesterday all the way out of Europe,
and tonight I fly on. Maybe not so good for
the ecological footprint, but I had to see you. I
had to be with you, and it's worth while all.
Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Thank you, Thank you very much, thank you, Thank you
so much for listening to this conversation. If you enjoyed it,
you'll love my chat with Adam Grant on why discomfort
is the key to growth and the strategies for unlocking
your hidden potential. If you know you want to be
more and achieve more this year, go check it out
(01:04:43):
right now.
Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
You set a goal today, you achieve it in six months,
and then by the time it happens, it's almost a relief.
There's no sense of meaning and purpose. You sort of
expected it, and you would have been disappointed if it
didn't happen.
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