March 5, 2025 • 35 mins
Nancy Ozeas was married to David Bloom for nine years. They enjoyed an extravagant lifestyle together, residing in their $1.6 million loft in Venice Beach and taking exorbitant vacations all over the world. David paid for everything. Or at least, that’s what he led Nancy to believe. But one day when she finds a stack of bills from creditors demanding payment from her, Nancy suddenly realizes - David Bloom had actually stolen her identity to fund their entire life together.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Previously on Once Upon a Con he has a hedge
fund in London.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Buy my whole block of shares of twenty six foot
quarter actually, Randaz, yes, you'll have a wire transfer.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
My business partners and I started recording David Bloom's phone
calls as evidence for police, listening to him psychopath saying
yeah stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I mean, basically, he's just confirmed everything he's done on
that call that.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
We've recorded, and his history of using bogus IPOs to
con people is long, and David Bloom does not discriminate.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
He in the eighties took over one hundred people for
over fifteen million dollars. One of the victims was his
own grandmother.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
And then I discover as bad as he might have
scammed me, the woman who was married to him lost
so much more.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
It's kind of like a cult. That's what I'd liken
it too. He brainwashed me. He made me feel like
the world hated me, and he was the only person
that under stood me and loved me. And I could
not live without him, is what you boys.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I'm Caroline de Morig and this is Once Upon a
Con Episode five. He loves me so much.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I met David in a wine bar in the West
Village in New York in the summer of two thousand
and eight.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
That's David Bloom's ex wife, Nancy Osias. She was married
to David for almost ten years, and being associated with
David Bloom even to this day has cost her jobs
and friendships, and it's cast a permanent cloud of suspicion
around her. Some of David's victims have even come to
her demanding she returned their quote investments they made with him.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You know, I would say, I understand why you want
your money back. I'd like my money back too, you know.
So as frustrating, hurtful, and devastating it was to be
accused of working with David, you know, when you're desperate
and you want your money back, particularly if you've taken
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money from your friends. He's good at working friend networks
and local networks. You now feel responsibile to them. I
can't fault people for trying to get their money back.
I'm sorry that they thought that I was involved.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Nancy emphatically insists she had nothing to do with any
of David's scams, and she is, in fact one of
his biggest victims. David actually stole her identity to scam
people for years, and she's lost a couple hundred thousand
dollars because of his lies and manipulations, But what she
lost most of all, you can't even begin to put
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a price on ten years of her life. She thought
she knew who David Bloom was. She truly loved him,
and she thought he loved her. But she was dead wrong.
And now years later, she's sifting through the wreckage that
David left in his wake, trying to put her life
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back together again.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
As I had freely admit, and I am embarrassed about.
I was not my most elegant self. You know. I
was left very damaged and I was angry, and I
have carried some of that on with me to this day.
And I'm trying to understand my anger, my hurt, and
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I think it's when I feel like I'm being taken
advantage of I snapped.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I really feel for this woman. God knows, I've cried
my own tears over what David Bloom did to me.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
He's a predator and he needs to be stopped.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Nancy's Nightmare with David Bloom starts back in two thousand
and eight in New York City, She's forty four years
old with long, dark hair and tailored business suits, working
in politics at the time. She gets set up on
a blind date and ends up having zero chemistry with
the guy. We've all been there, so the date ends
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really early, but Nancy isn't ready to go home, not yet.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Oh. I was just feeling like I put all the
effort into getting dressed up, I might as well take
advantage of it. You know. I'm right by this wine
bar I love, so I'm going to stop in inn
Apple bus And when I was walking in, David was
walking out with one of the owners. He saw me.
I went in and was sitting by myself. He came
back in, sat beside me, and that was it.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yep, David's trap had been set, and it springs fast
with razor sharp teeth that dig in deep.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
So he starts sizing you up from the minute he
sees you. He's a fantastic listener. He's really engaging. You know.
We started talking about the wine they had, and he
said he knew the owners because he knows everybody. Then
just he knows everything about New York City. He grew
up there, and so he's just a wonderful conversationalist. He
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knows food, he knows wine. He's just charming, smart, intuitive,
seemingly empathetic. He's so well read. He has a photographic memory.
He can remember every name, every property, they own, their business,
their net worth, you know, other people they know. He
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knows everyone. He does his homework, which makes so much
of what he says sound viable because he actually knows
what he's talking about.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So Nancy sits in that West Village wine bar for
hours that night, having a really good time with David Bloom.
She's so impressed with him. By the time they say
their goodbyes, they make plans to get together again.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
We exchanged information and he told me he was going
to the Hamptons for the weekend to stay at Tommy Hillfriggers.
I was like, wow, how cool is that? You know?
And I remember I was going to the US Open
with my friends over the weekend, and so we had
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planned to get together when he got back from the Hamptons.
But I remember texting him all week, and you know,
we were just excited to see each other. And I
was telling my friends about this amazing man that I met.
But he was in the Hamptons and I couldn't wait
to see him.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Days later, they have a second date, a third, and
then a fourth. Always fancy restaurants, always a phenomenal time.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
David and I you know, got serious right away, right,
So he's spending more and more time at my apartment.
I lived near Penn Station at the time, and he
was not clear about where he lived initially, but he
said he lived in somewhere in the West Village too,
But he was going to be buying this house. And
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it's this beautiful, pinkish house and it was Richard Gear's
old house.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Uh huh, Richard Gear's old house. Dropping celebrity names is
just classic David Bloom. Eventually, Nancy introduces David to some
of her friends.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
So I had one friend who met him, and she
was like, I don't get it. She goes, his nails
aren't clean and his teeth are weird. If he has
all that money, why would his hands look like that.
So we met and we walked around and we looked
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at this apartment that he said he owned, and it
didn't seem like he lived there. And then we kind
of walked around and looked at the Richard geerhouse and
it didn't seem to be on sale, and so we
were a bit skeptical, and we googled him and found
out about his past, and I met him back at
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that wine bar and confronted him.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
At this point, David's past consists of those two criminal convictions,
for the Ponzi scheme he ran in the nineteen eighties
and for those bartenders he scammed out of fifty thousand
dollars in the late nineties. And here now is Nancy
ten years later confronting him about both of those crimes.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And he caught to it and said that, you know,
done this in the past. He made some poor decisions,
you know, kind of started connecting it to his family
growing up. His parents always wanted to be a part
of a more affluent crowd, and when David came out
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and started making money, he was able to provide that
for them, and they were proud of him for the
first time in his life. And he started, honestly, he said,
investing money for his parents' friends. So he knew most
of these a lot of these people. And he said,
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initially he was successful and he was actually making money
the real way, and then as he started losing some money,
he panicked and then it turned into a Ponzi scheme.
His family ultimately lost all their money and moved out
of the city out of humiliation. But you know, he
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insisted that that was behind him, that he was actually
living with his aunt in Union Square, and that I
was so important to him. You know, this was motivating
him to go on and lead this honest life, and
that he really hoped that I would give him another chance.
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And I remember leaving and I had to think about
it because it was obviously a lot. And somehow, over
the you know, following weeks, he worked cond wormed his
way back into my life and convinced me he was
on the straight and arrow.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
So Nancy takes him back, and like a lot of
women who fall in love with a troubled man, myself included,
she believes she can fix him.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
David, you know, confessed his love to me, and you know,
even credited me, as did his family, as the person
that they all felt could help him go straight. I
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was this person in his life. He had never really
loved anyone the way he had loved me before, and
the way he spoke about me, and the things we
did and the times we spent, and I was from,
you know, this kind of good, honest, working class family.
They really all believed and hoped that this would be
the time and the relationship that would be meaningful enough
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to David to help him change his life. You know,
I felt joyful. I felt you know, I'm from a
family of nurtures, and I felt like this is my purpose.
David gives him me and takes care of me, and
I'm his rock. You know, I'm the one that believed
in him, and if I believe in him, together we
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can do this.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
At the time, David convinces Nancy that her her love
is enabling him to turn over a new leaf and
live an honest life. He says he's working in legitimate
investments now making good money, and she's falling deeper and
deeper in love with him with each passing day. She's
happier than she's ever been in her entire life.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I was interested, infatuated, you know, high from the experience
of meeting this wonderful person who cared about me and
wanted to take care of me and doted on me,
and was you know, David. I laugh and it's not funny,
but David never missed a phone call, never missed a date,
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was always on time. He's like your soul mate, he's
your best friend. He's an adventurer. He loves to walk,
he loves to explore, he loves to read and talk
and learn about whatever. Whatever I was doing, he'd learn
all about it, so he could be like the best
conversationalist and help me in any way that he, you know,
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thought would be helpful to me. He convinced me that
he was the only one who really knew me, who
loved me like no one else had, the only one
that truly understood me. And then, you know, how could
I be without him. I finally found this person, and
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he was able to identify kind of my insecurities and
basically played them. You know, I wanted to be taken
care of, so he took care of me. I was
always a bit insecure, but he understood me, and he
thought I was fantastic, you know. So he was all
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those things that I had always wanted, but at the
same time continuing to undermine and make me more and
more dependent upon him. I think he may have been
seeing another woman before he met me, but of course
he dumped her because he just found me, and he
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just didn't want to be with anyone but me.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Not surprisingly, Nancy's relationship with David Bloom moves lightning fast.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So we met in September, and then around probably November,
we start planning to travel to California for the holidays
so he could meet my family and then we could
go meet David's family, his parents who were living in
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northern California, as well as his sister. So we're planning
this trip. It's wonderful. We're going to fly out to
California together. And then somehow the day or as we're
going to the airport, he can't leave that day and
he's got to either stay in the city to take
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care of his say, or to take care of a client,
or you know. He said he was doing working with
a couple individual clients. So I went to the airport,
I fly to California, and then he tells me, you know,
the real thing is is I'm afraid to fly because
I don't, you know, I have this record. I don't
want to be arrested. And I was like, they arrest
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people just because they had a record. I didn't know.
I was like, Okay, he goes, but I'm going to
take a bus, and I'll meet you in California. So
David takes a Greyhound across the country and I pick
him up at the bus depot in downtown Los Angeles,
and must love me right. He just traveled across the
country on a bus to meet my family. Must love
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me right. So we have a wonderful time with my family.
I mean, you know, obviously there are a little trepidationous
you know, he's a former criminal con but my family
always wants to support me, and so there's supporting me.
I'd say to this day, my brother never liked him.
I guess the other thing that I have to say
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is when everybody tells you you're doing the wrong thing,
you're probably doing the wrong thing. But I was sure
I was right. We drove north, we visited his family,
and they were, you know, delirious with joy, look at
their son. Finally, David was happy. He had a normal girlfriend,
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and he was you know, he was working and you know,
see and still taking care of the aunt. I remember
them talking about his aunt, who I think, you know,
had some psychological issues, as did her son, who I
think was institutionalized. And his sister and her husband came
over and they had a bit of an awkward relationship,
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but everybody really was making an effort and it was
a lovely time, you know. When we went to fly home,
David said, I think I'd better take a bus. I
flew home, he took a bus back.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And when Nancy and David get back to New York,
things suddenly take a turn.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
After getting home, I was looking for some jewelry that
my mother had given me. It was a diamond necklace
and a gold coin ring from my father who died
when I was five, and his name was Leon and
he was Latvian, and these were two very important keepsakes
to me, and I kept them hidden in the back
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of a closet. So I went to get them and
they were gone. And I was like, where's the jewelry,
where's the jo And David, of course, I have no idea.
Let's look through everything. You couldn't have misplaced them. Let's
tear that closet apart. Let's look through everything. So we did.
Finally he said, cleaning lady must have stolen I was like, ugh,
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how would she know to be looking in the back
of my closet in a pocket? And was it? You know?
But he kind of convinced me that long enough, and
talking to my friends, I was like, this just doesn't
feel right.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
At that time, in early two thousand and nine, Nancy
is working in politics in New York City and she
has powerful connections.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
So I contacted some private investigators through some contacts I
had had, and they did some searching. They found the
jewelry had been sold to a local pawnbroker who had
by now sold them or melded them or whatever.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
They were gone, and Nancy is shocked to discover according
to her pis, David Bloom is the culprit. She is
furious and she gets the authorities.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Involved, and we staged something in my house like kind
of an arrest. I honestly can't remember if they arrest
did him then, for they knew cops who arrested had
him arrested, but he ended up back in prison in
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the Tombs, which is in Lower Manhattan, and David was
in jail.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
The jewelry David allegedly stole from the back of Nancy's
closet was valued at around eleven thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
At that time. They arrested David and were able to
put him in prison because he had violated parole, which
was why he wouldn't fly, because he would have been caught.
So that all makes sense. And then you know an
example of how absolutely brazen David was. The Pearol office
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that he had absconded from was literally on street level
next to the building where I lived, and he walked
by the parole officers who were looking for him every day.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
And they never noticed him, not once. At this point
in the story, if Nancy had not been romantically involved
with David Bloom, she would have been done with him forever.
But tragically, she really did love him, and loves not
something you can just turn off and on like a faucet.
So as Nancy's criminal case against David Bloom starts moving forward,
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she begins to feel guilty, and David seizes on her
guilt and starts doing what he does best, explaining everything away.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
But at this point, my head spinning. You know, I've
never been involved in anything like this before in my life.
This is the person I felt loved me. You know,
I've never been involved in anything like this before in
my life. This is the person I thought loved me.
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We just had this trip, and of course, you know
he stole. He did that because it was a trip
that was so important to me. He wanted to make
sure he had the money to take me and to
go on a big trip so we could meet our families.
He really just did it for me because he loved
me so much. So here I am. I go in
and they decide they're going to file charges, and so
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they hold him in prison, and I don't talk to
him for a while, and then he starts calling me
from prison, and I start feeling terrible. There's a three
strikes law in New York. He's already been in prison.
I could just have sent David back to prison for
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a significant amount of time. It's not the rest of
his life. And all he really wanted to do was
take me on a trip because he loves me so much.
He took a bus across the country, and so he
worked his way back in.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Now, before you judge Nancy too harshly, think back to
when your best friend, or your brother or your sister
was in a really bad relationship with an abuser, or
a cheater, or a drug addict or all of the above,
and then you hear they finally left them. You are thrilled.
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Then later you find out that they actually took them back,
and your heart breaks. Being in love with a bad
person can really destroy your life, and Nancy is about
to learn that lesson the hard way.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I started visiting him in prison. Twice a week. I
would go to the tombs and go through the rigmarole
that you have to to visit someone in prison, which
is quite interesting, and it takes about five hours to
go through all the waiting and the clearance and the abuse. Basically,
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you get sitting with all the other people who are
visiting their friends, relatives, other convicts, and you go into
a room. You sit across a table from someone. They
walk in the prisoners in their fatigues, and you have
probably twenty minutes to a half an hour to visit.
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You don't touch, you know, you're out in public. Then
they marched them out. I did not look like most
of the other people in there. I kind of stood
out and it was an interesting learning time. But here
I had worked in government and I was really kind
of shocked and horrified at how this really goes down.
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And I thought, you know, government's supposed to be on
our side, but look at what they're doing to people.
It was really unfair, and to see these generations of
people who you know, the son was in jail because
the father had been in jail, and the brother was
in jail, and you were like, these people don't have
a chance. So it started to really mess with me.
There is this is kind of an injustice. And I
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saw the way David was treated and when he'd have
his kind of hearings, and it was just so dysfunctional.
And then David got a job in prison because of course,
and he was allowed to stay up all night and
do like rounds, hourly rounds to check on everybody's safety,
which means he was not locked up at night. And
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then he would kind of sleep during the day, read books,
read newspapers, and that's kind of how he entertained himself.
David after being in jail, I think about twelve years
before he met me, and then this time he knows
how to maneuver in jail. He is a little person,
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but he knew how to use his brains to survive,
and that's what he did whether he was in jail
or out of jail.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
After reconnecting with David in jail and rekindling their romance,
Nancy's guilt for putting him back in there becomes too
much and she moves heaven and earth to undo what
she did.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Well, I get him out of jail. I go back
to an attorney that had represented David when he was younger,
plead my case, my love, what can I do? I
want to get him out. I feel terribly I can't
send him to prison for the rest of his life.
Basically says how much money do you have? And I
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didn't have much at that point. He said, okay, I'll
help you. He helped me get David out of prison
and into kind of a rehab or an intermediary place
in the Bronx. So David went from the tunes to
one of these places in the Bronx where everyone went
after prison, and got a job when he was there
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as part of their work program, so he lived there.
I probably forgot one important little detail. I marry David
in prison. Yeah, kind of hard to admit, but yes.
So after visiting him and he just loved me, was
so appreciative that I was standing by him, and we
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just fell more deeply in love. He was going to
go straight this time. He only did that for me
and I got married in prison in the tombs in
New York. I laughed. Probably not every mother's dream. I
had a cousin who was a minister in New York.
He was my guest. We were allowed to bring one
person in with us. My cousin, Bob, came with me.
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It was fifty dollars cash to get married in prison.
A former inmate had found God when he was released
from prison, became a minister and now performed prison marriages
for fifty bucks cash. We went to the dilapidated chapel
in the tombs. We waited for them to bring our
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inmate fiances in, and my cousin who was there, helped
with our ceremony. And I just saw him in the
last year and you know, jokingly said, I still blame
you for this marriage. And he told me, you know,
he thought very seriously about whether he should do it.
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He consulted with a fellow minister who said, Bob, she's
going to do this with or without you, so you
should go and support her. And he said, but you know,
it's been a burden my whole life. And we just
kind of laughed about it. I mean, sometimes you just
have to laugh about it. So by the time David
gets out of prison and he's living in the Bronx.
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We're married. David's working at Paragon Sporting Goods in Union
Square selling tennis rackets, and of course David is the
highest grossing tennis racket seller in the country. Showing up
to work on time. He's got OCD. So he's just,
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you know, punctual, put together, fastidious, And we lived together
for the first time as a married couple. Living together
was great. I mean, obviously it took a little bit
of getting used to, and he actually adapts pretty quickly
to whatever environment he's in. That's a skill he's developed.
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You know, he could live in a multimillion dollar mansion
and he could live on a street corner and a store.
I mean, it just doesn't seem to penetrate him for
whatever reason. So he had a wife, he had a job,
and he was on Pearl and we adhere to Pearl.
We were in by whatever it was nine o'clock. Every
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night Pearl came to visit at the house. They do
surprise checks kind of on you to see if you're there.
We were always there. He went to his Pearl meetings,
and you know, we seem to be doing pretty well.
We were happy. He's a great partner.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
But that happy life in New York is not without
a iccups.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Every once in a while we would run into someone
from his past. It was obviously always uncomfortable, and I
really hated cold winters, and so I think it was
November or December. I was like, we got to get
out of here. I can't do this again. You know,
why don't we go to California. I had lived there before,
and it just seemed like a place for a fresh start.
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And I think, you know, in California, there are all
kinds of people out here. It seemed like a good
place for us to start a new life together.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
So in early twenty ten, the newlyweds moved cross country
to Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
And we're living in Santa Monica. He completes his parol
while we're here, but he's out trying to get a
job and he can't get a job. So he's getting frustrated,
and he ended up going to a local organization that
works with formerly incarcerated population, housing challenge population formally addicted
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population to help provide job training, job skills, resume building.
The organization of is called Chrysalis, and then there are
people that come to them employers who understand that they
are hiring out of a challenge population, a population with
a past. And David got a sales job selling advertising
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on bus benches in Los Angeles, and he sold the
hell out of those bus benches. He brought in new customers,
he increased the buys from existing customers. He was thriving,
and so he was making very good money. We were
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doing well. I had a good job. He had a
good job.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
And with all that happiness and money, they begin to
feel an altruistic urge to do something to help people
less fortunate than themselves.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
And so we were working with a number of different
organizations and we were just trying to think about how
to use our experience to give back and to do
good for others. So we came up with an initiative
that we would take back a contract that had formerly
been a city contract to clean the bus benches and
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empty the adjacent garbage cans, and worked with some local
organizations who worked with formally incarcerated men and hired those
men to do those jobs. It's really hard to get
a job when you get out of prison, and that's
really a key to your stability. So we were helping
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employ people who David could talk their language. And it
currently seemed like that high he had gotten from committing
crimes he was now getting from helping people and from
being my husband and from working with me to do that,
and kind of from the credit or the acceptance or
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praise he was getting from people who said, wow, David
really turned his life around, and now he's actually doing
good and he's earning an honest living. And for several
years it seemed like we had done it. I was
so happy. I was like, this is something I believed
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could happen. I believed there was goodness in David. You
know that he had made some poor decisions and you
know who knows why, low self worth, you know, dysfunctional family,
you know, whatever it was. But I really felt like
we have created this environment in this new place. He
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had a fresh start, and he's really determined to make
the most of it, and it seemed like it was working.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Of course, it wasn't really working, but Nancy has no idea.
She's in the throes of one of David's most elaborate scams.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yet it was insane. The stuff he was doing was
insane and I was trying to make sense of something
that doesn't make any sense, or to understand things that
I could not have thought of in my wildest dreams
to do. So, how could we understand what he's doing?
We would never think about doing it ever.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Next time on Once Upon a Con like you called
me in the week when we came back from France
and you asked me, I think, did you give him money?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah, That's what I asked you.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
And then I said yes. I make a shocking realization
that everyone David ever introduced me to he also scammed.
They just had no idea. Can I ask you, did
I blow this up for you guys? Or was it
already blown up? I mean you did blow it up
for us. This podcast is dedicated to the memory of
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my amazing mother, Bonnie Major, who would be super proud
of me standing up for myself. Once Upon a Con
is a production of AYR Media and thirty two Flavors,
hosted by Me Caroline de Morey. Executive producers Eliza Rosen
for AYR Media, Alex Baskin for thirty two Flavors, and
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producer Caroline de Morey, Senior Associate producer Joe Pushesnik, Coordinator
Molena Kroyevsky. Sound designed by Tim Mulhern, edited and mixed
by Tim Mulhern, Supervising editor Victoria Chang, Mastered by Victoria Chang.
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Engineering by Justin Longerbeam Legal counsel for AYR Media Gianni Douglas.
Our theme song, Freshly Served, was written and performed by
the incredibly talented Mattie Noise and is available on her
SoundCloud
Previously on Once Upon a Con he has a hedge
fund in London.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Buy my whole block of shares of twenty six foot
quarter actually, Randaz, yes, you'll have a wire transfer.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
My business partners and I started recording David Bloom's phone
calls as evidence for police, listening to him psychopath saying
yeah stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I mean, basically, he's just confirmed everything he's done on
that call that.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
We've recorded, and his history of using bogus IPOs to
con people is long, and David Bloom does not discriminate.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
He in the eighties took over one hundred people for
over fifteen million dollars. One of the victims was his
own grandmother.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
And then I discover as bad as he might have
scammed me, the woman who was married to him lost
so much more.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
It's kind of like a cult. That's what I'd liken
it too. He brainwashed me. He made me feel like
the world hated me, and he was the only person
that under stood me and loved me. And I could
not live without him, is what you boys.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I'm Caroline de Morig and this is Once Upon a
Con Episode five. He loves me so much.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I met David in a wine bar in the West
Village in New York in the summer of two thousand
and eight.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
That's David Bloom's ex wife, Nancy Osias. She was married
to David for almost ten years, and being associated with
David Bloom even to this day has cost her jobs
and friendships, and it's cast a permanent cloud of suspicion
around her. Some of David's victims have even come to
her demanding she returned their quote investments they made with him.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You know, I would say, I understand why you want
your money back. I'd like my money back too, you know.
So as frustrating, hurtful, and devastating it was to be
accused of working with David, you know, when you're desperate
and you want your money back, particularly if you've taken
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money from your friends. He's good at working friend networks
and local networks. You now feel responsibile to them. I
can't fault people for trying to get their money back.
I'm sorry that they thought that I was involved.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Nancy emphatically insists she had nothing to do with any
of David's scams, and she is, in fact one of
his biggest victims. David actually stole her identity to scam
people for years, and she's lost a couple hundred thousand
dollars because of his lies and manipulations, But what she
lost most of all, you can't even begin to put
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a price on ten years of her life. She thought
she knew who David Bloom was. She truly loved him,
and she thought he loved her. But she was dead wrong.
And now years later, she's sifting through the wreckage that
David left in his wake, trying to put her life
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back together again.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
As I had freely admit, and I am embarrassed about.
I was not my most elegant self. You know. I
was left very damaged and I was angry, and I
have carried some of that on with me to this day.
And I'm trying to understand my anger, my hurt, and
(03:53):
I think it's when I feel like I'm being taken
advantage of I snapped.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I really feel for this woman. God knows, I've cried
my own tears over what David Bloom did to me.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
He's a predator and he needs to be stopped.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Nancy's Nightmare with David Bloom starts back in two thousand
and eight in New York City, She's forty four years
old with long, dark hair and tailored business suits, working
in politics at the time. She gets set up on
a blind date and ends up having zero chemistry with
the guy. We've all been there, so the date ends
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really early, but Nancy isn't ready to go home, not yet.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Oh. I was just feeling like I put all the
effort into getting dressed up, I might as well take
advantage of it. You know. I'm right by this wine
bar I love, so I'm going to stop in inn
Apple bus And when I was walking in, David was
walking out with one of the owners. He saw me.
I went in and was sitting by myself. He came
back in, sat beside me, and that was it.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yep, David's trap had been set, and it springs fast
with razor sharp teeth that dig in deep.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
So he starts sizing you up from the minute he
sees you. He's a fantastic listener. He's really engaging. You know.
We started talking about the wine they had, and he
said he knew the owners because he knows everybody. Then
just he knows everything about New York City. He grew
up there, and so he's just a wonderful conversationalist. He
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knows food, he knows wine. He's just charming, smart, intuitive,
seemingly empathetic. He's so well read. He has a photographic memory.
He can remember every name, every property, they own, their business,
their net worth, you know, other people they know. He
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knows everyone. He does his homework, which makes so much
of what he says sound viable because he actually knows
what he's talking about.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So Nancy sits in that West Village wine bar for
hours that night, having a really good time with David Bloom.
She's so impressed with him. By the time they say
their goodbyes, they make plans to get together again.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
We exchanged information and he told me he was going
to the Hamptons for the weekend to stay at Tommy Hillfriggers.
I was like, wow, how cool is that? You know?
And I remember I was going to the US Open
with my friends over the weekend, and so we had
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planned to get together when he got back from the Hamptons.
But I remember texting him all week, and you know,
we were just excited to see each other. And I
was telling my friends about this amazing man that I met.
But he was in the Hamptons and I couldn't wait
to see him.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Days later, they have a second date, a third, and
then a fourth. Always fancy restaurants, always a phenomenal time.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
David and I you know, got serious right away, right,
So he's spending more and more time at my apartment.
I lived near Penn Station at the time, and he
was not clear about where he lived initially, but he
said he lived in somewhere in the West Village too,
But he was going to be buying this house. And
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it's this beautiful, pinkish house and it was Richard Gear's
old house.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Uh huh, Richard Gear's old house. Dropping celebrity names is
just classic David Bloom. Eventually, Nancy introduces David to some
of her friends.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
So I had one friend who met him, and she
was like, I don't get it. She goes, his nails
aren't clean and his teeth are weird. If he has
all that money, why would his hands look like that.
So we met and we walked around and we looked
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at this apartment that he said he owned, and it
didn't seem like he lived there. And then we kind
of walked around and looked at the Richard geerhouse and
it didn't seem to be on sale, and so we
were a bit skeptical, and we googled him and found
out about his past, and I met him back at
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that wine bar and confronted him.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
At this point, David's past consists of those two criminal convictions,
for the Ponzi scheme he ran in the nineteen eighties
and for those bartenders he scammed out of fifty thousand
dollars in the late nineties. And here now is Nancy
ten years later confronting him about both of those crimes.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And he caught to it and said that, you know,
done this in the past. He made some poor decisions,
you know, kind of started connecting it to his family
growing up. His parents always wanted to be a part
of a more affluent crowd, and when David came out
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and started making money, he was able to provide that
for them, and they were proud of him for the
first time in his life. And he started, honestly, he said,
investing money for his parents' friends. So he knew most
of these a lot of these people. And he said,
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initially he was successful and he was actually making money
the real way, and then as he started losing some money,
he panicked and then it turned into a Ponzi scheme.
His family ultimately lost all their money and moved out
of the city out of humiliation. But you know, he
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insisted that that was behind him, that he was actually
living with his aunt in Union Square, and that I
was so important to him. You know, this was motivating
him to go on and lead this honest life, and
that he really hoped that I would give him another chance.
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And I remember leaving and I had to think about
it because it was obviously a lot. And somehow, over
the you know, following weeks, he worked cond wormed his
way back into my life and convinced me he was
on the straight and arrow.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
So Nancy takes him back, and like a lot of
women who fall in love with a troubled man, myself included,
she believes she can fix him.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
David, you know, confessed his love to me, and you know,
even credited me, as did his family, as the person
that they all felt could help him go straight. I
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was this person in his life. He had never really
loved anyone the way he had loved me before, and
the way he spoke about me, and the things we
did and the times we spent, and I was from,
you know, this kind of good, honest, working class family.
They really all believed and hoped that this would be
the time and the relationship that would be meaningful enough
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to David to help him change his life. You know,
I felt joyful. I felt you know, I'm from a
family of nurtures, and I felt like this is my purpose.
David gives him me and takes care of me, and
I'm his rock. You know, I'm the one that believed
in him, and if I believe in him, together we
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can do this.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
At the time, David convinces Nancy that her her love
is enabling him to turn over a new leaf and
live an honest life. He says he's working in legitimate
investments now making good money, and she's falling deeper and
deeper in love with him with each passing day. She's
happier than she's ever been in her entire life.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I was interested, infatuated, you know, high from the experience
of meeting this wonderful person who cared about me and
wanted to take care of me and doted on me,
and was you know, David. I laugh and it's not funny,
but David never missed a phone call, never missed a date,
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was always on time. He's like your soul mate, he's
your best friend. He's an adventurer. He loves to walk,
he loves to explore, he loves to read and talk
and learn about whatever. Whatever I was doing, he'd learn
all about it, so he could be like the best
conversationalist and help me in any way that he, you know,
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thought would be helpful to me. He convinced me that
he was the only one who really knew me, who
loved me like no one else had, the only one
that truly understood me. And then, you know, how could
I be without him. I finally found this person, and
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he was able to identify kind of my insecurities and
basically played them. You know, I wanted to be taken
care of, so he took care of me. I was
always a bit insecure, but he understood me, and he
thought I was fantastic, you know. So he was all
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those things that I had always wanted, but at the
same time continuing to undermine and make me more and
more dependent upon him. I think he may have been
seeing another woman before he met me, but of course
he dumped her because he just found me, and he
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just didn't want to be with anyone but me.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Not surprisingly, Nancy's relationship with David Bloom moves lightning fast.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So we met in September, and then around probably November,
we start planning to travel to California for the holidays
so he could meet my family and then we could
go meet David's family, his parents who were living in
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northern California, as well as his sister. So we're planning
this trip. It's wonderful. We're going to fly out to
California together. And then somehow the day or as we're
going to the airport, he can't leave that day and
he's got to either stay in the city to take
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care of his say, or to take care of a client,
or you know. He said he was doing working with
a couple individual clients. So I went to the airport,
I fly to California, and then he tells me, you know,
the real thing is is I'm afraid to fly because
I don't, you know, I have this record. I don't
want to be arrested. And I was like, they arrest
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people just because they had a record. I didn't know.
I was like, Okay, he goes, but I'm going to
take a bus, and I'll meet you in California. So
David takes a Greyhound across the country and I pick
him up at the bus depot in downtown Los Angeles,
and must love me right. He just traveled across the
country on a bus to meet my family. Must love
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me right. So we have a wonderful time with my family.
I mean, you know, obviously there are a little trepidationous
you know, he's a former criminal con but my family
always wants to support me, and so there's supporting me.
I'd say to this day, my brother never liked him.
I guess the other thing that I have to say
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is when everybody tells you you're doing the wrong thing,
you're probably doing the wrong thing. But I was sure
I was right. We drove north, we visited his family,
and they were, you know, delirious with joy, look at
their son. Finally, David was happy. He had a normal girlfriend,
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and he was you know, he was working and you know,
see and still taking care of the aunt. I remember
them talking about his aunt, who I think, you know,
had some psychological issues, as did her son, who I
think was institutionalized. And his sister and her husband came
over and they had a bit of an awkward relationship,
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but everybody really was making an effort and it was
a lovely time, you know. When we went to fly home,
David said, I think I'd better take a bus. I
flew home, he took a bus back.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And when Nancy and David get back to New York,
things suddenly take a turn.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
After getting home, I was looking for some jewelry that
my mother had given me. It was a diamond necklace
and a gold coin ring from my father who died
when I was five, and his name was Leon and
he was Latvian, and these were two very important keepsakes
to me, and I kept them hidden in the back
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of a closet. So I went to get them and
they were gone. And I was like, where's the jewelry,
where's the jo And David, of course, I have no idea.
Let's look through everything. You couldn't have misplaced them. Let's
tear that closet apart. Let's look through everything. So we did.
Finally he said, cleaning lady must have stolen I was like, ugh,
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how would she know to be looking in the back
of my closet in a pocket? And was it? You know?
But he kind of convinced me that long enough, and
talking to my friends, I was like, this just doesn't
feel right.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
At that time, in early two thousand and nine, Nancy
is working in politics in New York City and she
has powerful connections.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
So I contacted some private investigators through some contacts I
had had, and they did some searching. They found the
jewelry had been sold to a local pawnbroker who had
by now sold them or melded them or whatever.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
They were gone, and Nancy is shocked to discover according
to her pis, David Bloom is the culprit. She is
furious and she gets the authorities.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Involved, and we staged something in my house like kind
of an arrest. I honestly can't remember if they arrest
did him then, for they knew cops who arrested had
him arrested, but he ended up back in prison in
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the Tombs, which is in Lower Manhattan, and David was
in jail.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
The jewelry David allegedly stole from the back of Nancy's
closet was valued at around eleven thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
At that time. They arrested David and were able to
put him in prison because he had violated parole, which
was why he wouldn't fly, because he would have been caught.
So that all makes sense. And then you know an
example of how absolutely brazen David was. The Pearol office
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that he had absconded from was literally on street level
next to the building where I lived, and he walked
by the parole officers who were looking for him every day.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
And they never noticed him, not once. At this point
in the story, if Nancy had not been romantically involved
with David Bloom, she would have been done with him forever.
But tragically, she really did love him, and loves not
something you can just turn off and on like a faucet.
So as Nancy's criminal case against David Bloom starts moving forward,
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she begins to feel guilty, and David seizes on her
guilt and starts doing what he does best, explaining everything away.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
But at this point, my head spinning. You know, I've
never been involved in anything like this before in my life.
This is the person I felt loved me. You know,
I've never been involved in anything like this before in
my life. This is the person I thought loved me.
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We just had this trip, and of course, you know
he stole. He did that because it was a trip
that was so important to me. He wanted to make
sure he had the money to take me and to
go on a big trip so we could meet our families.
He really just did it for me because he loved
me so much. So here I am. I go in
and they decide they're going to file charges, and so
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they hold him in prison, and I don't talk to
him for a while, and then he starts calling me
from prison, and I start feeling terrible. There's a three
strikes law in New York. He's already been in prison.
I could just have sent David back to prison for
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a significant amount of time. It's not the rest of
his life. And all he really wanted to do was
take me on a trip because he loves me so much.
He took a bus across the country, and so he
worked his way back in.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Now, before you judge Nancy too harshly, think back to
when your best friend, or your brother or your sister
was in a really bad relationship with an abuser, or
a cheater, or a drug addict or all of the above,
and then you hear they finally left them. You are thrilled.
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Then later you find out that they actually took them back,
and your heart breaks. Being in love with a bad
person can really destroy your life, and Nancy is about
to learn that lesson the hard way.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I started visiting him in prison. Twice a week. I
would go to the tombs and go through the rigmarole
that you have to to visit someone in prison, which
is quite interesting, and it takes about five hours to
go through all the waiting and the clearance and the abuse. Basically,
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you get sitting with all the other people who are
visiting their friends, relatives, other convicts, and you go into
a room. You sit across a table from someone. They
walk in the prisoners in their fatigues, and you have
probably twenty minutes to a half an hour to visit.
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You don't touch, you know, you're out in public. Then
they marched them out. I did not look like most
of the other people in there. I kind of stood
out and it was an interesting learning time. But here
I had worked in government and I was really kind
of shocked and horrified at how this really goes down.
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And I thought, you know, government's supposed to be on
our side, but look at what they're doing to people.
It was really unfair, and to see these generations of
people who you know, the son was in jail because
the father had been in jail, and the brother was
in jail, and you were like, these people don't have
a chance. So it started to really mess with me.
There is this is kind of an injustice. And I
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saw the way David was treated and when he'd have
his kind of hearings, and it was just so dysfunctional.
And then David got a job in prison because of course,
and he was allowed to stay up all night and
do like rounds, hourly rounds to check on everybody's safety,
which means he was not locked up at night. And
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then he would kind of sleep during the day, read books,
read newspapers, and that's kind of how he entertained himself.
David after being in jail, I think about twelve years
before he met me, and then this time he knows
how to maneuver in jail. He is a little person,
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but he knew how to use his brains to survive,
and that's what he did whether he was in jail
or out of jail.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
After reconnecting with David in jail and rekindling their romance,
Nancy's guilt for putting him back in there becomes too
much and she moves heaven and earth to undo what
she did.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Well, I get him out of jail. I go back
to an attorney that had represented David when he was younger,
plead my case, my love, what can I do? I
want to get him out. I feel terribly I can't
send him to prison for the rest of his life.
Basically says how much money do you have? And I
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didn't have much at that point. He said, okay, I'll
help you. He helped me get David out of prison
and into kind of a rehab or an intermediary place
in the Bronx. So David went from the tunes to
one of these places in the Bronx where everyone went
after prison, and got a job when he was there
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as part of their work program, so he lived there.
I probably forgot one important little detail. I marry David
in prison. Yeah, kind of hard to admit, but yes.
So after visiting him and he just loved me, was
so appreciative that I was standing by him, and we
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just fell more deeply in love. He was going to
go straight this time. He only did that for me
and I got married in prison in the tombs in
New York. I laughed. Probably not every mother's dream. I
had a cousin who was a minister in New York.
He was my guest. We were allowed to bring one
person in with us. My cousin, Bob, came with me.
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It was fifty dollars cash to get married in prison.
A former inmate had found God when he was released
from prison, became a minister and now performed prison marriages
for fifty bucks cash. We went to the dilapidated chapel
in the tombs. We waited for them to bring our
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inmate fiances in, and my cousin who was there, helped
with our ceremony. And I just saw him in the
last year and you know, jokingly said, I still blame
you for this marriage. And he told me, you know,
he thought very seriously about whether he should do it.
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He consulted with a fellow minister who said, Bob, she's
going to do this with or without you, so you
should go and support her. And he said, but you know,
it's been a burden my whole life. And we just
kind of laughed about it. I mean, sometimes you just
have to laugh about it. So by the time David
gets out of prison and he's living in the Bronx.
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We're married. David's working at Paragon Sporting Goods in Union
Square selling tennis rackets, and of course David is the
highest grossing tennis racket seller in the country. Showing up
to work on time. He's got OCD. So he's just,
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you know, punctual, put together, fastidious, And we lived together
for the first time as a married couple. Living together
was great. I mean, obviously it took a little bit
of getting used to, and he actually adapts pretty quickly
to whatever environment he's in. That's a skill he's developed.
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You know, he could live in a multimillion dollar mansion
and he could live on a street corner and a store.
I mean, it just doesn't seem to penetrate him for
whatever reason. So he had a wife, he had a job,
and he was on Pearl and we adhere to Pearl.
We were in by whatever it was nine o'clock. Every
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night Pearl came to visit at the house. They do
surprise checks kind of on you to see if you're there.
We were always there. He went to his Pearl meetings,
and you know, we seem to be doing pretty well.
We were happy. He's a great partner.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
But that happy life in New York is not without
a iccups.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Every once in a while we would run into someone
from his past. It was obviously always uncomfortable, and I
really hated cold winters, and so I think it was
November or December. I was like, we got to get
out of here. I can't do this again. You know,
why don't we go to California. I had lived there before,
and it just seemed like a place for a fresh start.
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And I think, you know, in California, there are all
kinds of people out here. It seemed like a good
place for us to start a new life together.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
So in early twenty ten, the newlyweds moved cross country
to Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
And we're living in Santa Monica. He completes his parol
while we're here, but he's out trying to get a
job and he can't get a job. So he's getting frustrated,
and he ended up going to a local organization that
works with formerly incarcerated population, housing challenge population formally addicted
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population to help provide job training, job skills, resume building.
The organization of is called Chrysalis, and then there are
people that come to them employers who understand that they
are hiring out of a challenge population, a population with
a past. And David got a sales job selling advertising
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on bus benches in Los Angeles, and he sold the
hell out of those bus benches. He brought in new customers,
he increased the buys from existing customers. He was thriving,
and so he was making very good money. We were
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doing well. I had a good job. He had a
good job.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
And with all that happiness and money, they begin to
feel an altruistic urge to do something to help people
less fortunate than themselves.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
And so we were working with a number of different
organizations and we were just trying to think about how
to use our experience to give back and to do
good for others. So we came up with an initiative
that we would take back a contract that had formerly
been a city contract to clean the bus benches and
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empty the adjacent garbage cans, and worked with some local
organizations who worked with formally incarcerated men and hired those
men to do those jobs. It's really hard to get
a job when you get out of prison, and that's
really a key to your stability. So we were helping
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employ people who David could talk their language. And it
currently seemed like that high he had gotten from committing
crimes he was now getting from helping people and from
being my husband and from working with me to do that,
and kind of from the credit or the acceptance or
(32:17):
praise he was getting from people who said, wow, David
really turned his life around, and now he's actually doing
good and he's earning an honest living. And for several
years it seemed like we had done it. I was
so happy. I was like, this is something I believed
(32:40):
could happen. I believed there was goodness in David. You
know that he had made some poor decisions and you
know who knows why, low self worth, you know, dysfunctional family,
you know, whatever it was. But I really felt like
we have created this environment in this new place. He
(33:02):
had a fresh start, and he's really determined to make
the most of it, and it seemed like it was working.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Of course, it wasn't really working, but Nancy has no idea.
She's in the throes of one of David's most elaborate scams.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yet it was insane. The stuff he was doing was
insane and I was trying to make sense of something
that doesn't make any sense, or to understand things that
I could not have thought of in my wildest dreams
to do. So, how could we understand what he's doing?
We would never think about doing it ever.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Next time on Once Upon a Con like you called
me in the week when we came back from France
and you asked me, I think, did you give him money?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah, That's what I asked you.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
And then I said yes. I make a shocking realization
that everyone David ever introduced me to he also scammed.
They just had no idea. Can I ask you, did
I blow this up for you guys? Or was it
already blown up? I mean you did blow it up
for us. This podcast is dedicated to the memory of
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my amazing mother, Bonnie Major, who would be super proud
of me standing up for myself. Once Upon a Con
is a production of AYR Media and thirty two Flavors,
hosted by Me Caroline de Morey. Executive producers Eliza Rosen
for AYR Media, Alex Baskin for thirty two Flavors, and
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Jonathan Walton for Jonathan Walton Productions. Written by Jonathan Walton
producer Caroline de Morey, Senior Associate producer Joe Pushesnik, Coordinator
Molena Kroyevsky. Sound designed by Tim Mulhern, edited and mixed
by Tim Mulhern, Supervising editor Victoria Chang, Mastered by Victoria Chang.
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Engineering by Justin Longerbeam Legal counsel for AYR Media Gianni Douglas.
Our theme song, Freshly Served, was written and performed by
the incredibly talented Mattie Noise and is available on her
SoundCloud
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