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July 30, 2024 7 mins

On this episode of Our American Stories, following the Charles Manson murders, Manson's lead henchman, Tex Watson, stayed in Los Angeles for almost two months before fleeing to Texas, where he was arrested. But it’s those two months following the Manson murders, where this story from our listener (Patty Kingsbaker) picks up.

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
This is Lee Habib and this is our American Stories,
and we tell stories about everything here on this show,
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and everything in between, including your story. Send them to
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And this next story comes to us well, Greg Hangler
brings it to us, and actually the person providing this

(00:34):
story is a listener in Colorado.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Charles tex Watson was just a young guy from Texas
in nineteen sixty nine when he came under the spell
of drugs and Charles Manson and helped kill seven people.
Watson attended cal State Los Angeles but dropped out less
than half a semester. Later got a job selling wigs
and began living it up in the party scene of
Los Angeles. Fateful evening, he was driving home and picked

(01:02):
up a hitchhiker. In Watson's words, hitchhikers were pretty common
on Sunset Boulevard, and I pulled over to pick one up.
When he told me his name was Dennis Wilson, it
didn't mean anything to me, but when he said he
was one of the Beach Boys, I was impressed. Wilson,
the Beach Boys drummer then directed Watson to his home

(01:24):
on Sunset Boulevard in the Pacific Palisades area of Los Angeles.
Watson was shocked when he pulled up. In the living room,
Watson found a man sitting on the floor with his guitar,
surrounded by six young women. He looked up, Watson later recalled,
and the first thing I felt was a sort of gentleness,

(01:45):
an embracing kind of acceptance and love. Another man at
the house introduced them, This is Charlie Charlie Manson. On
August ninth, nineteen sixty nine, under the direction of Charles Manson,
Watson and three other Manson girls murdered pregnant actress Sharon

(02:07):
Tate and four other people on Benedict Canyon. The following night,
Manson accompanied the previous night's killers and supervised the murder
of two more victims in Los Felis. These murders are
considered some of the most gruesome and shocking in American history.
Tex Watson stayed in Los Angeles for almost two months

(02:30):
before fleeing to Texas, where he was arrested. But it's
those two months following the Manson murders where the story
from our listener in Colorado picks up. Here's Patty Kingsbaker.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
This story happened in nineteen sixty nine. I had graduated
from high school in Miami and moved out to California
to live with my brother who was living in Los Angeles.
At the time. It was the sixties. My brother was
ten years older than me, so we kind of, you know,

(03:04):
it felt like we had really grown up in different
generations and our ideals, and he was a little worried
about me being hippy and maybe going down the wrong
path with him at this time of my life. So
I had been in Los Angeles four year, had gotten
to know a few people, and you know, was doing

(03:27):
the things that kids in the sixties did.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
You know.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
One of the days, I was with a friend of
mine and I'm not sure why I was hitchhiking either.
I didn't have a car yet. It was kind of
probably right after I got there, but we had hitchhiked
from the valley Samfordanda Valley over to the beach. And
when my brother heard about it, he lost his mind

(03:51):
and he was like, no, no, you were not hit anyway.
So I eventually got a car, and you know, it
was a time when things were just more opened and
a lot of people were hitchhiking, and you know, we
picked people up. You know, it was just what happened.
But this one night, I had been over in Malibu

(04:12):
with some friends and I was coming back into the
valley and I was coming through to paying A Canyon
and when I made the turn off Pacific Coast Highway,
there was this guy. It was raining, it was like
torrential raining, and there was this guy on the side
of the road, and so I pulled over. A. He
was out there in the middle of this rainstorm, and

(04:34):
B that's just what we did back then. So I
pulled over. But as soon as he opened the door
and got in my car, I just got this sick feeling.
It was I don't know what evil is. I don't
know what it is, but I felt it. I was scared.

(04:59):
I was absolutely scared. And I was like, I knew
right then I hadn't made a mistake letting this guy
in my car, but there was nothing I could do.
He's there. So we're driving through Panga Canyan. Now, I mean,
it is torrential rain and there are mud slides on
the road. I'm scared. I'm having to go much slower

(05:22):
than I would have gone through the canyon. I'm just thinking, God,
get me to the other side of this canyon. And
he was going to Resida. I remember that, and I
lived in Woodland Hills, which is another part of the
San Fernando Valley. But I just wanted him out of
my car, and he was trying to engage me in conversation,

(05:44):
and I was just like, I finally just said, you know,
I really can't talk. I can't talk. I really just
need to concentrate on the road and my driving. I
just can't talk. I was I've never felt an anything
like that before. So when we got to the other
end of Panga Canyon, I just pulled over and I said,

(06:06):
I'm really sorry, but I'm going a different direction and
I need to leave you here. But and he was
like okay, and he got out and there was no incident.
I mean, there's nothing, nothing bad happened. But it was
just that feeling just stuck with me, and I was
just like, I didn't get it. It was a few

(06:29):
months later that I picked up the paper one day
and on the front of the paper were the pictures
of the Manson family. And the guy who was in
my car that night was Tex Watson. Needless to say,
I've never picked up another hitchhiker ever. That was enough,

(06:50):
that not just that feeling taught me not to do that.
And there's been times I've passed people that I think,
oh that I just have ever been able to bring
myself to do it.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Well, that's a heck of a hitchhiker's story picking up
Tex Watson, one of the worst killers and murders of
all time, and she could feel evil. Patty Kingsbaker's story
a great listeners story, a really awful hitchhikers story. Here
on our American Stories. Here are to our American Stories.

(07:32):
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