July 2, 2025 • 30 mins
On this episode of Our American Stories, Bill Corum, author of The Ultimate Pardon, shares his incredible story of redemption and explains how he went from being a feared enforcer in the Kansas City underworld to becoming a free man and a prison minister on a mission.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
And we returned to our American stories. Up next, a
story of redemption out of Kansas City, Missouri.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Let's get into it.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
So my name is Bill Crumb. I was the enemy
of God for thirty nine years. I just celebrated my
fortieth year as a Christian. But my life I started it.
Let me tell you about the eight times I should
have died. One specific time, My sister died seven years ago,
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and I never knew until she was on her deathbed.
And we were talking one day and I asked her
if she was going to be buried in the same
cemetery as my mom and dad, because I knew they
had two other lots there. And she said no, She said,
Lloyd and our to be buried down in another cemetery.
She said, why don't you and Davy take those two lots?
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And I said why did dad have four lots? Anyway,
she said, you don't know, and I said, no, I
don't know. Sharon. My sister was seven years older than
I was. And so she said, when Mama was pregnant
with you, the doctor told Mama and dad that she
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would die had given birth to you, and you would die.
And so Daddy went and bought four lots, one for
you and Mama, and then one for him and I
when we died, And so I now tell people this.
I've known for years that the Devil's tried to kill me.
I've been in over twenty five car wrecks and motorcycle wrecks.
I've been in riots, in prisons. I've overdosed a few times.
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I've had two heart attacks to do it cocaine. The
Devil's been trying to kill me forever, but I just
found out seven years ago. He was trying to kill
me before I was even born. He didn't want me
to be born telling you how good God is, and
the devil did not want me to do that. But
it took a long time to get there. When I
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was about eight years old, I started smoking cigarettes. I
started looking at pornography. I started stealing, and it just progressed.
My mom and dad took me to church as a kid,
but I was always doing something wrong, even in church.
At church, I was doing stuff wrong, and I was
always doing stuff wrong. I had a rebellious streak in me,
and the older I got, the worse it got. When
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I was eighteen years old, I was at a crossroads
in my life. Let me back up. A year before that,
I was shooting pool in the pool hall. I stayed
in the pool hall about twelve hours a day. I
didn't go to school. I learned more in the pool
hall that I did school anyway, So that's where I
loved to go every day. And I was shooting pool
one day and a guy that I barely knew came
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up behind me and said, Hey, Bill, let's go join
the Marines. And I said, let me finish this game.
And that's how serious I took life, because I knew
if I didn't like the Marines, I just quit. Because
I quit everything. I quit jobs, I quit girls, I
quit anything that didn't go the way I thought it
should go. And so I thought, if the Marines don't
go right, I'll just quit. And so when I was eighteen,
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I stood before a Marine Corps colonel. I'd already gotten
in a lot of trouble in the Marines, and I
stood before a Marine Corps colonel and he said, if
you don't straighten up, you'll be in the penitentiary before
you're twenty one years old. And I was at a
crossroads in my life right there. I had a choice
of straightening up, taking his advice, and my life would
have gone a different direction. But what do you think
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I did. I laughed in his face. And by the
time I was twenty one, I had ridden twenty five
hundred miles in handcuffs and leg irons and waite chains.
I'd been locked up in several states. I'd seen murders
and rapes and suicides and prisons. I came out of
that prison a very hard hearted man. And when I
came out of that prison in nineteen sixty four, I said,
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I had two goals. I'm never going back and I'm
never gonna get caught. I had no intentions of living
a law abiding life. I had no intentions of straightening up.
I was just going to be more careful. And I
went for almost nineteen years before I got caught. And
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in that nineteen years, my life progressed from everything from
small petty burglary, really, from as small as picking tips
up off tables. I always picked up tips. If I
had three or four thousand dollars in my pocket, I
was walking out of a restaurant and there was two
or three dollars laying on the table, and nobody was looking,
I had now three or four and two dollars in
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my pocket. I did anything that was illegal, and so
I went from petty burglary to international gun smuggling. My
partner was going to Columbia to Bogata to buy cocaine,
and we were sending midnight specials over there. We'd buy
pistols on the street for one hundred dollars, and in
South America, a handguns illegal and they would bring one
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thousand dollars, and so we would send ten handguns over
there and turn one thousand dollars into ten thousand dollars.
That's pretty serious crime if you get caught for international
gun smuggling. But that was the least of my worries
because I didn't think I could get caught. I had
moved up to where I wanted power and money and influence,
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and I had all three of those things. I had
enough money to stay in five hundred dollars a night hotels,
I rode in limousines. I bought twenty thousand dollars for
a one night party worth of cocaine. So I had
the money had always wanted. I had enough power to
make a phone call and have somebody killed so I
had the power it had always wanted, and I had
enough influence that when I was arrested, it was September fifth,
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nineteen eighty two, and it wasn't a traffic ticket. I'd
put on sitches in the back of a guy's head
with a ball bat, and it was a very serious charge,
originally attempted murder, and I got booked in the jail.
I love to ask this questions in jails. I love
to ask guys, how many of you have ever been
locked up on a weekend? And every hand goes up,
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every hand goes up. And then I asked this question,
what happens when you get arrested on a weekend and
everybody yells at the same time nothing, because you're not
going anywhere on a weekend. Well, they booked me in
the jail at two o'clock Sunday afternoon, September fifth, nineteen
eighty two, and I walked out of that jail at
one thirty Monday morning. Because of the influence I had.
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When I got arrested, we made our first phone call,
called a city councilman, and we were selling cocaine too,
and said you knew who to call, and this city
councilman called the judge that we were selling cocaine to.
And I love to ask this question in prison, how
many of you know that when you're selling cocaine to
a judge, he doesn't want you in jail. So we
were out of jail in less than twelve hours on
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a weekend. I walked out of that jail at one
thirty Monday morning. And when I walked out of that jail,
I said, Bill Korm, you finally arrived. You got money,
you got power, and you got influence. But there was
something missing in my life. I had this money and
this power and this influence. The Bible says, what's it
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gained him? What is the profit a man to gain
the whole world and lose his own soul? And that's
where I was. I had all this money and power
and influence, but I had no peace. I was looking
for peace all the time. I'd been looking for years.
I mean there was a time in my life I
looked like a white mister t I wore my shirts
on button down to my belly button, with gold chains
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around my neck and carrying guns anything to you know,
look important. But I was really looking for peace. And
I had no peace. If I was in a restaurant
eating and a cop came in, I'd go pay my
bill and get out the door. Or I might go
in the bathroom, go out the window to pay on
what stage of my life I was in and guess what.
The cop wasn't even after me. He didn't even know
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Bill korm was in the restaurant. The cop came in
there because he was hungry. He just came in there
to get something to eat. And after I became a Christian,
I was reading in the Bible and it says a
wicked man runs when no one's chasing him, and I
went wow, I left a lot of steak dinners sitting
at the table because the waitress said, just set my
meal down, and a cop walked in, and I got
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up and went and paid my bill and walked out
the door. And after I read that, I was like,
I could have eate all them dinners.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And you're listening to Bill Korham, and what a line
that is.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
A wicked man runs when no one's chasing him, and
he well, he was running, and he was running towards peace.
He couldn't find it. He tried power, he tried money,
he tried influence. None of them worked. He made one
phone call and got himself out of jail. Had the
power to kill a person, and would routinely have large parties,
large limos fancy tell rooms something was missing in his life.
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And boy, the young Bill Korum, and I can just
see the scene of him looking at a superior officer
in the Marine Corps and just laughing in the guy's face,
and all he was trying to do that officer was
warn him that if he kept going down the road
he was going, he'd end up in prison. I love
the way this started. I was the enemy of God
for thirty nine years. When we come back, more of
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Bill Korum's story from Kansas City, underworld Enforcer to prison ministry.
Here on our American Stories, and we returned to our
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American stories and the redemption story of Bill Korum. He's
the author of The Ultimate Pardon. Pick it up at
Amazon or wherever books are sold. You won't be able
to put it down. When we last left off, Bill
was telling us about how he was a criminal, the
enemy of God in his own words. Now Bill turns
to telling us about his parents and reading from his
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aforementioned book, Take it away, bill Oh.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
My mother was on her knees for her life. Her
knees were wore out. There is no one I know
of on my mother's or dad's side of the family
whoever went to prison or got into trouble like I did.
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I have to take responsibility for my own actions. No
one held a gun in my head. I made choices.
If there was ever a black sheep in family, it
was me, and I was the blackest of them all.
There's one commandment in the Bible that comes with the
promise that says, if we honor our father and mother,
we will have long life. I would not be honoring
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my parents if I didn't tell you this about them.
I have personally never known anyone whose parents loved them
like mine. I'm not saying there is no one. I
have just not personally met them. Most inmates I have
talked to over the years have come from broken homes.
My parents were married sixty three years. Drugs and alcohol
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have plagued most inmates homes since their birth. My folks
never touched the drop of alcohol in their lives. My
mother and father didn't smoke or use any kind of drugs.
I never heard a curse word come out of either
one of their mouths. The only time in my life
I remember my dad saying anything that could be considered
cussing was when I was with that fifteen year old
girl in the hotel and he asked me what I'd
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done to her. I worked by my dad's side building
houses and never heard him swear or tell a dirty joke.
I did see him walk away when other people told him.
My mother died when she was ninety three years old,
and she had never been in a movie theater or
to a dance. They were the most loving, unselfish people
I've ever known in my whole life. I remember Mom
would put me and my sister to bed at night,
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and if Dad asked for a bowl of ice cream,
she would not get him one unless she got Sharon
an eye up and gave us one. They visited me
everywhere I got locked up. When I got locked up
in Clarksdale, Mississippi, they drove five hundred and fifty miles
to see me. When I was waiting to go to
try And, Oxford, they drove six hundred miles to see me.
Dad told me years later that sometimes they drove down
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visited me then drove home bathe changed clothes and drove
right back. It was a twelve hundred mile round trip,
and they made him many times. I remember one time
they came to see me and ask if I wanted
a chocolate malt. I wanted one, for sure, but there
were ten or twelve guys in the big cell I
was in. Dad asked the jailer if he could bring
everyone malts. The jailer gave him me okay. In a
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few minutes, he returned with the malts for everyone, including
the jailer. When my friends and I hopped the freight
trade and got locked up in took them carey New Mexico,
my dad made the thirteen hundred mile round trip to
get us out of jail and take us home. When
I was sent to Ashland, Kentucky for sixty day observation,
they made a fourteen hundred mile round trip to see me.
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I was there with guys who had been locked up
for years and their families only lived an hour or
two away, and they never got a visit. They visited
me in San Diego when I was in boot camp,
which was sixteen hundred miles one way. When I was
in the brig in Millington, Tennessee. They drove over five
hundred miles to see me. Inglewood, Colorado, was another place
they drove six hundred miles to see me. I figured
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it up once. My dad drove over twenty five thousand
miles in one year visiting me. The average Miley on
a car back then was ten thousand miles a year.
If I came in at eleven o'clock at night with
a couple of buddies, my mom would get out of
bed ask if we were hungry. All one one of
them had to do was nod his head, and she
whipped up a five course meal. She loved to cook
for me and to watch me eat. I think she
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tried to kill every friend I brought around with food.
There was no one who could cook like my mother.
She didn't use recipes, and everyone in our family has
tried to copy her cooking since she's been gone, but
no one's mastered it. Are you starting to get the
picture of how much my parents loved me? No matter
what I did. They loved me and my sister and
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I came first and they were second. They did everything
possible to help me, and still I was a rebel.
If there was ever a human on this earth who
should have excelled and never been in trouble, it was me.
I had their blessing from the time I was born
until they died. And see when I wrote this, I
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didn't know I was supposed to die before I was
even born. If they did all that for me when
I was rebellious, how much more would they have done
for me if I had not been rebellious. I don't
believe they would have done anymore because their love was
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not conditional. Mom used to have dreams about me. She
wore her knees out praying for me. She told me
so many answers to the prayers she prayed for me.
I could fill another book. When Debbie started praying for me,
Mom encouraged her and they prayed together. My Saint Me.
Mother prayed for almost forty years for me. Just surrender
to Jesus. She prayed, many times, not my will, but
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that will be done. My dad gave me godly advice
all my life. He tried everything he knew of to
point me in the right direction, although I didn't listen
to him at the time. Thankfully, he saw me walk
out of the darkness and into the light before he
died in nineteen ninety one. We got to spend eight
years together on the same page. Mom got to enjoy
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seeing me love God and loved my dad those last
eight years of his life. Mom died in nineteen ninety nine,
but she spent the last sixteen years of her life
praising the Lord for his answer to her prayers for
my salvation. We had many good times together. Mom and
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her best friend and life dad are together and get
in heaven. I look forward to the day I joined them,
no wonder. I hated and cussed that psychiatrist at Ashland
when he told me that it was my mom and
Dad's fault that I turned into a criminal. So you know,
I was doing five hundred dollars worth of cocaine to day.
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I was drinking two quarts of whiskey to day. I
was kissed my wife goodbye and say I see tonight.
And I'd come home for weeks. My kids had called
come over and say where's Dad, Debbie sav and senr Dad.
In weeks, I was doing every kind of legal drug
there was. I mean, I would have took a earth
control pill if I thought I could get eige on it.
There was nothing I wouldn't do, and I did it
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in massive amounts. If everybody else was doing three of them,
I wanted to do six. I wanted to do more
than anybody getting implicated. As one of the leading cocaine
dealers in Kansa, Missouri, I had a lot of money
being an enforcer for the Kansas City Underworld. I was
out there doing enforcement, doing contract work, doing some serious,
serious stuff. I wasn't thinking about my kids. I was
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thinking about what I was doing for the family out there,
and that's all I cared about was my job I
was doing, making sure I did it right. Didn't care
about anybody except me. I carried a flamethrower on my
back and it was always lit. I'd burn up every
bridge I went over because I wasn't going back. I
had no reason to go back. I was only going forward.
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My motto is, if you're not living on the edge,
you're taking up too much space. And I was out there, going, going, going.
My wife says, I was going two hundred miles an
hour in the world, just doing cocaine and drinking, and
people go, well, you couldn't drink two quarts of whiskey,
And I said you never did cocaine, did you, Because
when you're doing cocaine, you could drink ten quartz of whiskey.
You can't get drunk when you're doing cocaine. That's why
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people die of speedballs. They do heroin and cocaine together
because your heart's beating so fast. Like I used to
go home when i'd been gone for three four weeks
at a time, there was a seven eleven not far
from our house. Remember that seven eleven used to be
up there on the Right Time Road, and we lived
at sixty two twenty four Willow And I'd be gone
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three weeks and I decided to go home, and I
didn't have nothing. I didn't have any downers or no pills.
I'd pull in that seven eleven, I'd buy four or
five bottles a n iquill and I'd start driving toward
the house because I was trying to slow my heart
down so she wouldn't hear it, because I thought it
was going to jump out of my chest. That's why
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I had two heart attacks from doing cocaine, because your
heart's getting go so fast, And that's why people mix
it with heroin and they do. That's what John Belushi
died of was speedballs, heroin and cocaine mixed.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
And you're listening to Bill Korham talk about his life
on the edge and that, unlike so many people he
shared prison space with, he was not the product of
a broken home. When we come back more of Bill
Korham's story here on our American Stories, and we return
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to our American Stories and the final portion of our
story with Bill korm author.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Of The Ultimate Pardon.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
When we last left off, Bill had become an enforcer
for the Kansas City Underworld and had gotten.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Arrested for attempted murder.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Let's return to the story here again is Bill Koram Well.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I I was still moving a lot of drugs even
though I'd gotten busted. I was charged with first gear
assault with intent to kill, which carried fifteen to life
of Missouri. And we also were charged with first green burglary,
which carried like five to twenty or something, so really
I faced some minimum of twenty years in a maximum
of life. And then I got implicated as being one
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of the leading cocaine dealers in the city, which just
added to the problems. I was staying away from home
because they were watching us and by that time, after
a guy gave a twenty page statement to the Missouri
and Narcotics Division, which was like a book, and he
named everybody in there that we were dealing with, including
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the judge that we got out of jail with. All
of the people that we knew and were associated with
were starting to fall like flies. I mean they were
starting to drop, and they were getting arrested, they were
getting killed, they were getting you know, And I was
watching all this stuff, taking it all in. I was
still moving drugs, but I was staying out of town
about seventy five miles from here, and I was standing
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in an old farmhouse a friend of mine that I'd
been an associate with, and he was a real big gangster,
I mean, a killer early and one night I went
to bed. And I don't know if the story's worth
telling or not, but every time i'd come to Kansas
and go back down there, like when I was going
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across seven Highways, was down toward the lake. And every
time i'd go down that seven highway, and back then
it was single lane, a lot of it, I would
drive that car as fast as it'd go. If I
was in a car that they'd go one hundred and forty,
I'd go on hundred and forty. If I was in
a car, go one hundred and ten, I'd go under ten.
And it was almost like I wanted to die. There
was a real war going on. I mean, the more
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I think about it, I should really write it all
down someday, hadn't I But anyway, this one particular night,
I went upstairs to go to bed, and I was
going upstairs.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
And looking at the wall.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Painting on the wall was coming off. The handrail was
all chipped, and I thought, this, this whole house looks
like I feel because even though I was only not
quite forty, but I had a lot of miles on me.
Like I said, I've been locked up in ten states.
I've ridden twenty five hundred miles in handcuffs like underways.
I've been in car wrecks and motorcycle wrecks and just
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a lot of stuff that I shouldn't have made it through,
crazy crazy stuff, And you know, I got implicated or
not implicated. I got nicknamed crazy Bill because of some
of the stupid stuff I did. Just completely off the chain.
And I just was going up that stairway and I
was tired, I was so tired, and I got in
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bed and I turned on the rock and roll and
I was laying there and the radio, you know how
like some radios when they don't have good connection and
you're trying to tune them in and or mean to
hear a little music, and I turn it and I
find I got it on a rock and roll station.
I was laying there and then it went and I
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heard a preacher going, no matter what you've done, God
loves you. He's got a plan for your life. And
I went, I don't want to hear that. Back to
the rock and roll, and I laid back down. Jesus
will forgive you no matter what you've done. He loves you.
And I went and it just kept happening. It kept
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going back to this guy preaching, and then God gave
me like a vision, I mean almost a vision. I
guess I never had a vision, I don't think, but
maybe that time, but I remember seeing I don't think
it was a dream. I think I was right away,
but I saw rex I'd had like I flipped a
van one time, six times, end over end, after went
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end over end six times. Then I rolled it down
a hill. It ended up in a like a creek.
Every piece of metal was twisted and mangled. Three of
the wheels and tires got ripped off. Looked like a
train hited. I took my mother to see that van.
She started crying and she said, son, don't you see
God his his hand on you. And I looked there
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and I said, Mom, God had nothing to do with that.
I'm a good driver. And that's how warp my mind was.
I didn't have a seatbelt on. I broke the steering
wheel in half, and I bent the brake pedal on
a forty five degree angle. Pushing. I pulled my hamstring
real bad because I knew if I let go, I
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was going out. So I stayed in there. I held
on and so I'm like, God didn't do that. I
did that. I mean, look how big and strong. Because
I used to be real big and strong. I'm a
good driver. I didn't let go. My nickname was Superman.
I thought I was Superman. So that night the Lord
showed me and some of those wrecks and some of
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those crisis and some.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Of the things that I'd done, and that it wasn't me,
it was his love. And that's the night that's the night,
and I said, God, if you're real and you can change,
Bill Cornwall lived my life for you. And I went
to sleep and slept peacefully, which I never did usually.
Woke up the next morning, called her and said, you
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want to come get me? And I left my guns.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Down there and didn't think about that, went home, slept
for a week. I get a phone call one day
she's at work. I answered the phone and all I
heard was you can't walk out on us. Click, and
I knew what it meant, and I had this terrible fear.
I didn't have a Bible yet, but her Bible was
laying there, and I picked it up, then opened it up,
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and it said, if a man's ways please God, he
makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.
That's the only thing I could see. If a man's
ways please God, he makes even his enemies to be
at peace with him. And I said, God, I want
my ways to please you, because I knew I had
some enemies. After I got that phone call.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I knew that.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I knew that, so then I fell asleep. I had
her Bible and I sit down and recliner and I
laid back and I had her Bible right here on
my chest, and I had a dream of her. I
heard the doorbell, I saw her walk across the floor,
opened the door, and I saw the barrel of the
gun and the fire and saw her fall to the
floor dead. And I just woke up in total fear.
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And I'm like, oh my god, they're gonna kill Debbie.
They're not gonna kill me, They're gonna kill her. They're
gonna kill my family. And again her Bible was right here,
so I just opened it up and the only words
I could see said, no weapon formed against you, So prosper.
And then I flipped it just went like this, and
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the only words I could see said, the Lord is
my Light and my salvation. Whom shall I fear? Of
Whom shall I be afraid? And I was like, wow,
this book is true. And then I began to read
and then said, if you don't do what it says,
you deceive your own self. And see I was the
poorst deceiver of the planet. I wanted to deceive everybody.
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I lied to everybody. When I was married to my
first wife, I had three girlfriends at the same time.
None of them knew I had other girlfriends. She didn't
know I had any girlfriends. I was cheating on all
four of them, and I loved it. I had an
old lady tell me one time when I had my
office up there at that Baptist church. That old woman said,
you know, she was about ninety five. I was probably
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fifty five. She goes, you know, son, if you never
tell a lie, you don't have to remember what you said.
And I thought, wow, that's a whistle there. In nineteen
eighty seven, I went to Africa with some men from
our church. And that was a miracle too, because I
was on paper. I was on prole and when I
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went and asked my pro officer could I go to Africa,
he laughed at me. He said, Bill, you can't even
go across the state line. I'm not going to let
you leave the country. And I said, well, I didn't
figure you would, but I just wanted to ask. And
I was getting ready to walk out of his office,
and he said, hey, Bill, tell you what I'll do.
If you'll write a letter to the judge who sentenced you,
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and that judge will give you permission to even apply
for a passport, I'll let you go to Africa. I did.
I sent the letter to the passport application and the money,
and I went to Africa. So I'm in Africa. I'm
walking along a trail with ten men from the church
and I almost stepped on a grasshopper and I picked
it up and just kind of threw it to the side,
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and out of the side of my eye, I saw
it landing a little puddle of water, and I said, hey, guys,
hold up, wait up. So they all stopped and I
ran over in the grass. I got the grasshopper out
of the water to put him in the grass, and
I ran and caught up with him. And they said, Bill,
what were you doing back there? And I said I
didn't want that grasshopper to drown. And then I started crying,
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and they said why are you crying? And I said,
because four years ago I would kill a man for money,
and today I don't want a bug to die. And
I knew right then that God had taken my heart
of stone and given me a heart of fleation. I
wrote a little track called Heart of Stone, and I
would sing this over and over and over if I
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had the opportunity. I'll just tell you what it says.
I can't sing it because I tell guys in prison.
If I sing, you'll sign up for death row. Because
my voice is terrible. I've got a face for radio
and a voice for the dog pound. I can't sing.
I wish I could sing, because I'd love to sing
this song. The song says this, it's my desire to
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live for Jesus. It's my desire to live for him.
If you could see where Jesus brought me from to
where I am today, you would know the reason why
I love him. So if you could see where Jesus
brought me from to where I am today, then you
would know the reason why I love him. So that's
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my story.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
And a special thanks to Bill Korum for sharing his
a story and man it's rough, and that story about
the grasshopper, we're just crying in our studio. The story
of Bill Corum a beautiful faith story and the end
is story about God, his story about Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Here on our American Stories
And we returned to our American stories. Up next, a
story of redemption out of Kansas City, Missouri.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Let's get into it.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
So my name is Bill Crumb. I was the enemy
of God for thirty nine years. I just celebrated my
fortieth year as a Christian. But my life I started it.
Let me tell you about the eight times I should
have died. One specific time, My sister died seven years ago,
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and I never knew until she was on her deathbed.
And we were talking one day and I asked her
if she was going to be buried in the same
cemetery as my mom and dad, because I knew they
had two other lots there. And she said no, She said,
Lloyd and our to be buried down in another cemetery.
She said, why don't you and Davy take those two lots?
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And I said why did dad have four lots? Anyway,
she said, you don't know, and I said, no, I
don't know. Sharon. My sister was seven years older than
I was. And so she said, when Mama was pregnant
with you, the doctor told Mama and dad that she
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would die had given birth to you, and you would die.
And so Daddy went and bought four lots, one for
you and Mama, and then one for him and I
when we died, And so I now tell people this.
I've known for years that the Devil's tried to kill me.
I've been in over twenty five car wrecks and motorcycle wrecks.
I've been in riots, in prisons. I've overdosed a few times.
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I've had two heart attacks to do it cocaine. The
Devil's been trying to kill me forever, but I just
found out seven years ago. He was trying to kill
me before I was even born. He didn't want me
to be born telling you how good God is, and
the devil did not want me to do that. But
it took a long time to get there. When I
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was about eight years old, I started smoking cigarettes. I
started looking at pornography. I started stealing, and it just progressed.
My mom and dad took me to church as a kid,
but I was always doing something wrong, even in church.
At church, I was doing stuff wrong, and I was
always doing stuff wrong. I had a rebellious streak in me,
and the older I got, the worse it got. When
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I was eighteen years old, I was at a crossroads
in my life. Let me back up. A year before that,
I was shooting pool in the pool hall. I stayed
in the pool hall about twelve hours a day. I
didn't go to school. I learned more in the pool
hall that I did school anyway, So that's where I
loved to go every day. And I was shooting pool
one day and a guy that I barely knew came
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up behind me and said, Hey, Bill, let's go join
the Marines. And I said, let me finish this game.
And that's how serious I took life, because I knew
if I didn't like the Marines, I just quit. Because
I quit everything. I quit jobs, I quit girls, I
quit anything that didn't go the way I thought it
should go. And so I thought, if the Marines don't
go right, I'll just quit. And so when I was eighteen,
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I stood before a Marine Corps colonel. I'd already gotten
in a lot of trouble in the Marines, and I
stood before a Marine Corps colonel and he said, if
you don't straighten up, you'll be in the penitentiary before
you're twenty one years old. And I was at a
crossroads in my life right there. I had a choice
of straightening up, taking his advice, and my life would
have gone a different direction. But what do you think
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I did. I laughed in his face. And by the
time I was twenty one, I had ridden twenty five
hundred miles in handcuffs and leg irons and waite chains.
I'd been locked up in several states. I'd seen murders
and rapes and suicides and prisons. I came out of
that prison a very hard hearted man. And when I
came out of that prison in nineteen sixty four, I said,
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I had two goals. I'm never going back and I'm
never gonna get caught. I had no intentions of living
a law abiding life. I had no intentions of straightening up.
I was just going to be more careful. And I
went for almost nineteen years before I got caught. And
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in that nineteen years, my life progressed from everything from
small petty burglary, really, from as small as picking tips
up off tables. I always picked up tips. If I
had three or four thousand dollars in my pocket, I
was walking out of a restaurant and there was two
or three dollars laying on the table, and nobody was looking,
I had now three or four and two dollars in
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my pocket. I did anything that was illegal, and so
I went from petty burglary to international gun smuggling. My
partner was going to Columbia to Bogata to buy cocaine,
and we were sending midnight specials over there. We'd buy
pistols on the street for one hundred dollars, and in
South America, a handguns illegal and they would bring one
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thousand dollars, and so we would send ten handguns over
there and turn one thousand dollars into ten thousand dollars.
That's pretty serious crime if you get caught for international
gun smuggling. But that was the least of my worries
because I didn't think I could get caught. I had
moved up to where I wanted power and money and influence,
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and I had all three of those things. I had
enough money to stay in five hundred dollars a night hotels,
I rode in limousines. I bought twenty thousand dollars for
a one night party worth of cocaine. So I had
the money had always wanted. I had enough power to
make a phone call and have somebody killed so I
had the power it had always wanted, and I had
enough influence that when I was arrested, it was September fifth,
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nineteen eighty two, and it wasn't a traffic ticket. I'd
put on sitches in the back of a guy's head
with a ball bat, and it was a very serious charge,
originally attempted murder, and I got booked in the jail.
I love to ask this questions in jails. I love
to ask guys, how many of you have ever been
locked up on a weekend? And every hand goes up,
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every hand goes up. And then I asked this question,
what happens when you get arrested on a weekend and
everybody yells at the same time nothing, because you're not
going anywhere on a weekend. Well, they booked me in
the jail at two o'clock Sunday afternoon, September fifth, nineteen
eighty two, and I walked out of that jail at
one thirty Monday morning. Because of the influence I had.
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When I got arrested, we made our first phone call,
called a city councilman, and we were selling cocaine too,
and said you knew who to call, and this city
councilman called the judge that we were selling cocaine to.
And I love to ask this question in prison, how
many of you know that when you're selling cocaine to
a judge, he doesn't want you in jail. So we
were out of jail in less than twelve hours on
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a weekend. I walked out of that jail at one
thirty Monday morning. And when I walked out of that jail,
I said, Bill Korm, you finally arrived. You got money,
you got power, and you got influence. But there was
something missing in my life. I had this money and
this power and this influence. The Bible says, what's it
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gained him? What is the profit a man to gain
the whole world and lose his own soul? And that's
where I was. I had all this money and power
and influence, but I had no peace. I was looking
for peace all the time. I'd been looking for years.
I mean there was a time in my life I
looked like a white mister t I wore my shirts
on button down to my belly button, with gold chains
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around my neck and carrying guns anything to you know,
look important. But I was really looking for peace. And
I had no peace. If I was in a restaurant
eating and a cop came in, I'd go pay my
bill and get out the door. Or I might go
in the bathroom, go out the window to pay on
what stage of my life I was in and guess what.
The cop wasn't even after me. He didn't even know
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Bill korm was in the restaurant. The cop came in
there because he was hungry. He just came in there
to get something to eat. And after I became a Christian,
I was reading in the Bible and it says a
wicked man runs when no one's chasing him, and I
went wow, I left a lot of steak dinners sitting
at the table because the waitress said, just set my
meal down, and a cop walked in, and I got
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up and went and paid my bill and walked out
the door. And after I read that, I was like,
I could have eate all them dinners.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And you're listening to Bill Korham, and what a line
that is.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
A wicked man runs when no one's chasing him, and
he well, he was running, and he was running towards peace.
He couldn't find it. He tried power, he tried money,
he tried influence. None of them worked. He made one
phone call and got himself out of jail. Had the
power to kill a person, and would routinely have large parties,
large limos fancy tell rooms something was missing in his life.
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And boy, the young Bill Korum, and I can just
see the scene of him looking at a superior officer
in the Marine Corps and just laughing in the guy's face,
and all he was trying to do that officer was
warn him that if he kept going down the road
he was going, he'd end up in prison. I love
the way this started. I was the enemy of God
for thirty nine years. When we come back, more of
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Bill Korum's story from Kansas City, underworld Enforcer to prison ministry.
Here on our American Stories, and we returned to our
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American stories and the redemption story of Bill Korum. He's
the author of The Ultimate Pardon. Pick it up at
Amazon or wherever books are sold. You won't be able
to put it down. When we last left off, Bill
was telling us about how he was a criminal, the
enemy of God in his own words. Now Bill turns
to telling us about his parents and reading from his
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aforementioned book, Take it away, bill Oh.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
My mother was on her knees for her life. Her
knees were wore out. There is no one I know
of on my mother's or dad's side of the family
whoever went to prison or got into trouble like I did.
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I have to take responsibility for my own actions. No
one held a gun in my head. I made choices.
If there was ever a black sheep in family, it
was me, and I was the blackest of them all.
There's one commandment in the Bible that comes with the
promise that says, if we honor our father and mother,
we will have long life. I would not be honoring
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my parents if I didn't tell you this about them.
I have personally never known anyone whose parents loved them
like mine. I'm not saying there is no one. I
have just not personally met them. Most inmates I have
talked to over the years have come from broken homes.
My parents were married sixty three years. Drugs and alcohol
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have plagued most inmates homes since their birth. My folks
never touched the drop of alcohol in their lives. My
mother and father didn't smoke or use any kind of drugs.
I never heard a curse word come out of either
one of their mouths. The only time in my life
I remember my dad saying anything that could be considered
cussing was when I was with that fifteen year old
girl in the hotel and he asked me what I'd
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done to her. I worked by my dad's side building
houses and never heard him swear or tell a dirty joke.
I did see him walk away when other people told him.
My mother died when she was ninety three years old,
and she had never been in a movie theater or
to a dance. They were the most loving, unselfish people
I've ever known in my whole life. I remember Mom
would put me and my sister to bed at night,
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and if Dad asked for a bowl of ice cream,
she would not get him one unless she got Sharon
an eye up and gave us one. They visited me
everywhere I got locked up. When I got locked up
in Clarksdale, Mississippi, they drove five hundred and fifty miles
to see me. When I was waiting to go to
try And, Oxford, they drove six hundred miles to see me.
Dad told me years later that sometimes they drove down
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visited me then drove home bathe changed clothes and drove
right back. It was a twelve hundred mile round trip,
and they made him many times. I remember one time
they came to see me and ask if I wanted
a chocolate malt. I wanted one, for sure, but there
were ten or twelve guys in the big cell I
was in. Dad asked the jailer if he could bring
everyone malts. The jailer gave him me okay. In a
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few minutes, he returned with the malts for everyone, including
the jailer. When my friends and I hopped the freight
trade and got locked up in took them carey New Mexico,
my dad made the thirteen hundred mile round trip to
get us out of jail and take us home. When
I was sent to Ashland, Kentucky for sixty day observation,
they made a fourteen hundred mile round trip to see me.
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I was there with guys who had been locked up
for years and their families only lived an hour or
two away, and they never got a visit. They visited
me in San Diego when I was in boot camp,
which was sixteen hundred miles one way. When I was
in the brig in Millington, Tennessee. They drove over five
hundred miles to see me. Inglewood, Colorado, was another place
they drove six hundred miles to see me. I figured
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it up once. My dad drove over twenty five thousand
miles in one year visiting me. The average Miley on
a car back then was ten thousand miles a year.
If I came in at eleven o'clock at night with
a couple of buddies, my mom would get out of
bed ask if we were hungry. All one one of
them had to do was nod his head, and she
whipped up a five course meal. She loved to cook
for me and to watch me eat. I think she
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tried to kill every friend I brought around with food.
There was no one who could cook like my mother.
She didn't use recipes, and everyone in our family has
tried to copy her cooking since she's been gone, but
no one's mastered it. Are you starting to get the
picture of how much my parents loved me? No matter
what I did. They loved me and my sister and
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I came first and they were second. They did everything
possible to help me, and still I was a rebel.
If there was ever a human on this earth who
should have excelled and never been in trouble, it was me.
I had their blessing from the time I was born
until they died. And see when I wrote this, I
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didn't know I was supposed to die before I was
even born. If they did all that for me when
I was rebellious, how much more would they have done
for me if I had not been rebellious. I don't
believe they would have done anymore because their love was
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not conditional. Mom used to have dreams about me. She
wore her knees out praying for me. She told me
so many answers to the prayers she prayed for me.
I could fill another book. When Debbie started praying for me,
Mom encouraged her and they prayed together. My Saint Me.
Mother prayed for almost forty years for me. Just surrender
to Jesus. She prayed, many times, not my will, but
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that will be done. My dad gave me godly advice
all my life. He tried everything he knew of to
point me in the right direction, although I didn't listen
to him at the time. Thankfully, he saw me walk
out of the darkness and into the light before he
died in nineteen ninety one. We got to spend eight
years together on the same page. Mom got to enjoy
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seeing me love God and loved my dad those last
eight years of his life. Mom died in nineteen ninety nine,
but she spent the last sixteen years of her life
praising the Lord for his answer to her prayers for
my salvation. We had many good times together. Mom and
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her best friend and life dad are together and get
in heaven. I look forward to the day I joined them,
no wonder. I hated and cussed that psychiatrist at Ashland
when he told me that it was my mom and
Dad's fault that I turned into a criminal. So you know,
I was doing five hundred dollars worth of cocaine to day.
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I was drinking two quarts of whiskey to day. I
was kissed my wife goodbye and say I see tonight.
And I'd come home for weeks. My kids had called
come over and say where's Dad, Debbie sav and senr Dad.
In weeks, I was doing every kind of legal drug
there was. I mean, I would have took a earth
control pill if I thought I could get eige on it.
There was nothing I wouldn't do, and I did it
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in massive amounts. If everybody else was doing three of them,
I wanted to do six. I wanted to do more
than anybody getting implicated. As one of the leading cocaine
dealers in Kansa, Missouri, I had a lot of money
being an enforcer for the Kansas City Underworld. I was
out there doing enforcement, doing contract work, doing some serious,
serious stuff. I wasn't thinking about my kids. I was
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thinking about what I was doing for the family out there,
and that's all I cared about was my job I
was doing, making sure I did it right. Didn't care
about anybody except me. I carried a flamethrower on my
back and it was always lit. I'd burn up every
bridge I went over because I wasn't going back. I
had no reason to go back. I was only going forward.
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My motto is, if you're not living on the edge,
you're taking up too much space. And I was out there, going, going, going.
My wife says, I was going two hundred miles an
hour in the world, just doing cocaine and drinking, and
people go, well, you couldn't drink two quarts of whiskey,
And I said you never did cocaine, did you, Because
when you're doing cocaine, you could drink ten quartz of whiskey.
You can't get drunk when you're doing cocaine. That's why
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people die of speedballs. They do heroin and cocaine together
because your heart's beating so fast. Like I used to
go home when i'd been gone for three four weeks
at a time, there was a seven eleven not far
from our house. Remember that seven eleven used to be
up there on the Right Time Road, and we lived
at sixty two twenty four Willow And I'd be gone
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three weeks and I decided to go home, and I
didn't have nothing. I didn't have any downers or no pills.
I'd pull in that seven eleven, I'd buy four or
five bottles a n iquill and I'd start driving toward
the house because I was trying to slow my heart
down so she wouldn't hear it, because I thought it
was going to jump out of my chest. That's why
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I had two heart attacks from doing cocaine, because your
heart's getting go so fast, And that's why people mix
it with heroin and they do. That's what John Belushi
died of was speedballs, heroin and cocaine mixed.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
And you're listening to Bill Korham talk about his life
on the edge and that, unlike so many people he
shared prison space with, he was not the product of
a broken home. When we come back more of Bill
Korham's story here on our American Stories, and we return
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to our American Stories and the final portion of our
story with Bill korm author.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Of The Ultimate Pardon.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
When we last left off, Bill had become an enforcer
for the Kansas City Underworld and had gotten.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Arrested for attempted murder.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Let's return to the story here again is Bill Koram Well.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I I was still moving a lot of drugs even
though I'd gotten busted. I was charged with first gear
assault with intent to kill, which carried fifteen to life
of Missouri. And we also were charged with first green burglary,
which carried like five to twenty or something, so really
I faced some minimum of twenty years in a maximum
of life. And then I got implicated as being one
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of the leading cocaine dealers in the city, which just
added to the problems. I was staying away from home
because they were watching us and by that time, after
a guy gave a twenty page statement to the Missouri
and Narcotics Division, which was like a book, and he
named everybody in there that we were dealing with, including
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the judge that we got out of jail with. All
of the people that we knew and were associated with
were starting to fall like flies. I mean they were
starting to drop, and they were getting arrested, they were
getting killed, they were getting you know, And I was
watching all this stuff, taking it all in. I was
still moving drugs, but I was staying out of town
about seventy five miles from here, and I was standing
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in an old farmhouse a friend of mine that I'd
been an associate with, and he was a real big gangster,
I mean, a killer early and one night I went
to bed. And I don't know if the story's worth
telling or not, but every time i'd come to Kansas
and go back down there, like when I was going
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across seven Highways, was down toward the lake. And every
time i'd go down that seven highway, and back then
it was single lane, a lot of it, I would
drive that car as fast as it'd go. If I
was in a car that they'd go one hundred and forty,
I'd go on hundred and forty. If I was in
a car, go one hundred and ten, I'd go under ten.
And it was almost like I wanted to die. There
was a real war going on. I mean, the more
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I think about it, I should really write it all
down someday, hadn't I But anyway, this one particular night,
I went upstairs to go to bed, and I was
going upstairs.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
And looking at the wall.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Painting on the wall was coming off. The handrail was
all chipped, and I thought, this, this whole house looks
like I feel because even though I was only not
quite forty, but I had a lot of miles on me.
Like I said, I've been locked up in ten states.
I've ridden twenty five hundred miles in handcuffs like underways.
I've been in car wrecks and motorcycle wrecks and just
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a lot of stuff that I shouldn't have made it through,
crazy crazy stuff, And you know, I got implicated or
not implicated. I got nicknamed crazy Bill because of some
of the stupid stuff I did. Just completely off the chain.
And I just was going up that stairway and I
was tired, I was so tired, and I got in
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bed and I turned on the rock and roll and
I was laying there and the radio, you know how
like some radios when they don't have good connection and
you're trying to tune them in and or mean to
hear a little music, and I turn it and I
find I got it on a rock and roll station.
I was laying there and then it went and I
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heard a preacher going, no matter what you've done, God
loves you. He's got a plan for your life. And
I went, I don't want to hear that. Back to
the rock and roll, and I laid back down. Jesus
will forgive you no matter what you've done. He loves you.
And I went and it just kept happening. It kept
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going back to this guy preaching, and then God gave
me like a vision, I mean almost a vision. I
guess I never had a vision, I don't think, but
maybe that time, but I remember seeing I don't think
it was a dream. I think I was right away,
but I saw rex I'd had like I flipped a
van one time, six times, end over end, after went
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end over end six times. Then I rolled it down
a hill. It ended up in a like a creek.
Every piece of metal was twisted and mangled. Three of
the wheels and tires got ripped off. Looked like a
train hited. I took my mother to see that van.
She started crying and she said, son, don't you see
God his his hand on you. And I looked there
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and I said, Mom, God had nothing to do with that.
I'm a good driver. And that's how warp my mind was.
I didn't have a seatbelt on. I broke the steering
wheel in half, and I bent the brake pedal on
a forty five degree angle. Pushing. I pulled my hamstring
real bad because I knew if I let go, I
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was going out. So I stayed in there. I held
on and so I'm like, God didn't do that. I
did that. I mean, look how big and strong. Because
I used to be real big and strong. I'm a
good driver. I didn't let go. My nickname was Superman.
I thought I was Superman. So that night the Lord
showed me and some of those wrecks and some of
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those crisis and some.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Of the things that I'd done, and that it wasn't me,
it was his love. And that's the night that's the night,
and I said, God, if you're real and you can change,
Bill Cornwall lived my life for you. And I went
to sleep and slept peacefully, which I never did usually.
Woke up the next morning, called her and said, you
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want to come get me? And I left my guns.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Down there and didn't think about that, went home, slept
for a week. I get a phone call one day
she's at work. I answered the phone and all I
heard was you can't walk out on us. Click, and
I knew what it meant, and I had this terrible fear.
I didn't have a Bible yet, but her Bible was
laying there, and I picked it up, then opened it up,
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and it said, if a man's ways please God, he
makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.
That's the only thing I could see. If a man's
ways please God, he makes even his enemies to be
at peace with him. And I said, God, I want
my ways to please you, because I knew I had
some enemies. After I got that phone call.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I knew that.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I knew that, so then I fell asleep. I had
her Bible and I sit down and recliner and I
laid back and I had her Bible right here on
my chest, and I had a dream of her. I
heard the doorbell, I saw her walk across the floor,
opened the door, and I saw the barrel of the
gun and the fire and saw her fall to the
floor dead. And I just woke up in total fear.
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And I'm like, oh my god, they're gonna kill Debbie.
They're not gonna kill me, They're gonna kill her. They're
gonna kill my family. And again her Bible was right here,
so I just opened it up and the only words
I could see said, no weapon formed against you, So prosper.
And then I flipped it just went like this, and
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the only words I could see said, the Lord is
my Light and my salvation. Whom shall I fear? Of
Whom shall I be afraid? And I was like, wow,
this book is true. And then I began to read
and then said, if you don't do what it says,
you deceive your own self. And see I was the
poorst deceiver of the planet. I wanted to deceive everybody.
(27:03):
I lied to everybody. When I was married to my
first wife, I had three girlfriends at the same time.
None of them knew I had other girlfriends. She didn't
know I had any girlfriends. I was cheating on all
four of them, and I loved it. I had an
old lady tell me one time when I had my
office up there at that Baptist church. That old woman said,
you know, she was about ninety five. I was probably
(27:25):
fifty five. She goes, you know, son, if you never
tell a lie, you don't have to remember what you said.
And I thought, wow, that's a whistle there. In nineteen
eighty seven, I went to Africa with some men from
our church. And that was a miracle too, because I
was on paper. I was on prole and when I
(27:46):
went and asked my pro officer could I go to Africa,
he laughed at me. He said, Bill, you can't even
go across the state line. I'm not going to let
you leave the country. And I said, well, I didn't
figure you would, but I just wanted to ask. And
I was getting ready to walk out of his office,
and he said, hey, Bill, tell you what I'll do.
If you'll write a letter to the judge who sentenced you,
(28:07):
and that judge will give you permission to even apply
for a passport, I'll let you go to Africa. I did.
I sent the letter to the passport application and the money,
and I went to Africa. So I'm in Africa. I'm
walking along a trail with ten men from the church
and I almost stepped on a grasshopper and I picked
it up and just kind of threw it to the side,
(28:29):
and out of the side of my eye, I saw
it landing a little puddle of water, and I said, hey, guys,
hold up, wait up. So they all stopped and I
ran over in the grass. I got the grasshopper out
of the water to put him in the grass, and
I ran and caught up with him. And they said, Bill,
what were you doing back there? And I said I
didn't want that grasshopper to drown. And then I started crying,
(28:49):
and they said why are you crying? And I said,
because four years ago I would kill a man for money,
and today I don't want a bug to die. And
I knew right then that God had taken my heart
of stone and given me a heart of fleation. I
wrote a little track called Heart of Stone, and I
would sing this over and over and over if I
(29:11):
had the opportunity. I'll just tell you what it says.
I can't sing it because I tell guys in prison.
If I sing, you'll sign up for death row. Because
my voice is terrible. I've got a face for radio
and a voice for the dog pound. I can't sing.
I wish I could sing, because I'd love to sing
this song. The song says this, it's my desire to
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live for Jesus. It's my desire to live for him.
If you could see where Jesus brought me from to
where I am today, you would know the reason why
I love him. So if you could see where Jesus
brought me from to where I am today, then you
would know the reason why I love him. So that's
(29:55):
my story.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
And a special thanks to Bill Korum for sharing his
a story and man it's rough, and that story about
the grasshopper, we're just crying in our studio. The story
of Bill Corum a beautiful faith story and the end
is story about God, his story about Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
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