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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is Lee Habiv and this is our American Stories,
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They're some of our favorites. And now onto the History Guy.
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heard here at Our American Stories. The life of the
youngest ever winner of the Nobel Prize for Literature, Rudyard Kipling,
was filled with tragedy. He survived a difficult childhood to
go on to become one of the most celebrated authors
of his day, penning such classics as The Jungle Book
and Just So Stories. Here's the History Guy with the
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story of Rudyard Kipling.
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Now a ninjus, send a climb. What do you used
to spend my time? Son of her Majesty the Queen?
All the black face to crue. The finest man I
knew was regimental Beastie Gungaden, was Din Din Din you
limp and Leppo, brick dust Gungadin, high slippery, hithero water
bring it to Perry low Yes, squishy nosed, no idle Gungadin.
Written in eighteen ninety The poem Gungaden was one of
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the most famous poems in the world in its time.
Chronicles the life of a British soldier in Indian offers
an unlikely hero in the person of Gungaden, the regimental waterbearer,
who represents an idea, perhaps surprising to the souldier narrator,
that a person's worth is not defined by their race.
The poem has inspired films and songs, and its famous
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last line, You're a better man than I am Gungaden
is an off quoted bit of praise, but the author
of the poem, the youngest person ever to receive the
Nobel Prize for Literature, lived a tragic life. Rudyard Kipling,
the author of such beloved classics as The Jungle Book
and Captain's Courageous, suffered an abusive and difficult childhood. Went
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on to become one of the most famous authors of
his time, but lived a life of tragedy. The father
of three, only one of his children would survive him.
Rudyard Kipling was born to Lockwood Kipling, who was the
head of an art school, and his wife Alice, in Bombay, India,
on December thirtieth, eighteen sixty five, They entrusted the early
care of their son to an Indian nurse who carried
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the young Kipling with her during her daily duties to
the bazaar. He was with her so much that Kipling's
first language and the one that he said he spoke
in his dreams, was Hindi, But then Nre's always reminded
Kipling to speak only English to his parents, so that
they didn't necessarily know the extent of his fluency. Kipling's
parents were concerned about the health of their amiable son.
He was nicknamed the little Friend of the World because
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of his friendly attitude, and their second child, a daughter
named Alice whom everyone called Tricks, who was born a
few years later. Typhoid, cholera, and other epidemics were common,
partially because the causes of the disease were unknown, and
the Kiplings believe their children would be safer from potential illness.
Back in England, they found a boarding house in the
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south of England that seemed like the perfect place, but
they apparently didn't check all the appropriate references, and it
was an unfortunate decision for Rudyard and Tricks. The family
that ran the boarding house called the Holloways told the
children that their parents had left him behind in England
because they had been bad. There never seemed to be
enough to eat. Would called the lady the house, quizzing
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him about his daily activities and then picking Aparty's every answer.
In an effort to catch him in a lie. The
Halloway's son cruelly beat the five year old Kipling with
his fists. If the children cried after receiving a letter
from their parents, they were locked in the basement for
an entire day. The word help was carved into the
house's walls by one of the children kept by the Holloways.
It was bleak. Kipling forever after called the place the
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House of Desolation. Later in life, Kipling wrote a semi
autobiographical novel entitled Bob Bob Black Sheep that detailed the
lieves of a six and three year old were left
in the care of an abusive family in the south
of England. Kipling's readers didn't know that he had modeled
the story after his own life. For when young lips
have drunk deep o' the better waters of hate, suspicion,
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and despair, all the love in the world will not
wholly take away that knowledge, though it may turn darkened
eyes for a while to the light, and teach faith
where no faith was Bob Bob black Sheep, eighteen eighty nine.
After Rudyard's mother came to take care of children home
six years later, she was putting Kipling to bed and
went to give him a kiss good night. He automatically
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threw up his hands as if to ward off an attack.
It was then that she realized how awful the boarding
house life had been to her children. Emotional scars ran deep.
Trix would struggle with what might be now labeled as
bipolar disorder for her entire life. Rudyard, on the other hand,
had intermittent periods of what he called depression and according
to some historians, and an ability to form a close
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relationship with his wife. Kipling said he'd dealt with his
variable moods by working long, at sometimes as much as
sixteen hours in a day. You'd later write to a friend,
my head is all queer and I'm going to have
to have it mended someday. But that someday never seemed
to come. Kipling received his formal education at United Services
College in Devon. It was another boarding school on one
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at which he didn't necessarily thrive, who called being terrified
as this fellow students hung him by his ankles out
of the window on the fifth floor of a dormitory.
Never particularly athletic, the dreamy and bukish Kipling was described
as an indifferent student. Yet there be certain times in
a young man's life when, through great sorrow or sin,
all the boy in him is burnt and steered away,
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so he passes at one step to the more sorrowful
state of manhood The Dream of Duncan Parnis eighteen eighty four.
But there were echoes of Kipling's earlier amiable attitude towards
the world. One of his classmates remembered him as a capering,
podgy little fellow, as precocious as ever could be. When
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he finished his time at United Services College, Kipling took
a job at a newspaper near his parents in Lahore, India,
which is now in Pakistan. Kipling began publishing his poetry,
which was incredibly well received by the public. Almost from
the beginning of his career. He formed a close relationship
with an American publicist in London named Walcott Bellister, and
when Balister unexpectedly died. Kipling married the deceased man's sister, Carrie,
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in January eighteen ninety two. The rush wedding was small,
with only four people in attendance, because London had virtually
come to a standstill there was a crippling influenza epidemic
sweeping in the city. Kipling described the atmosphere in his
biography as it was in the thick of an influenza epidemic,
when the undertakers had run out of black horses and
the dead had to be content with brown ones.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
And you're listening to the history guy tell the story
of the youngest winner in the history of the Nobel
Prize for Literature, Rudyard Kipling, And what a childhood he
suffered at the hands of Mike Goodness, Monsters, the House
of Desolation, the story of the boarding house.
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He grew up in.
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An indifferent student. You hear that a lot about really
talented folks. They're in different students because they just haven't
been tapped for their potential and their talent. We capture
that often on the stories we tell here. When we
continue more of the remarkable life of poet and writer
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Let's return to the history Guy.
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The couple honeymoon to the United States for a time
and went on to Japan, where they received news that
their bank had collapsed and taken much of their fortune
with it. They returned to the States, Carrie's home country
pursas a home near her family in Brattleboro, Vermont. Carrie
Kipling discovered she was pregnant and gave birth to the
couple's first child, Josephine, on December twenty ninth, eighteen ninety two,
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and his biography, Kipling wrote that his daughter was born
in three foot of snow on the night of twenty
nine December eighteen ninety two, her mother's birthday being the
thirty first, and mine the thirtieth on the same month.
We congratulated her on her sense of the fitness of things.
Kipling described this period of his life as the happiest
and most productive as his career. He loved living in
the countryside of Vermont, away from the noisy cities or
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temptatos like alcohol or opium. He wrote such classics as
The Jungle Book, Captain's Courageous, both of which would later
be made into films, and other books filled with short
stories and poetry. Now this is the law of the Jungle,
as old and as true as the sky, and the
wolf that shall keep it may prosper, But the wolf
that shall break it must die. As the creeper, the
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girls the tree trunk. The law runneth forward and back,
For the strength of the pack is the wolf, and
the strength of the wolf is the pack. The Second
Jungle Book, eighteen ninety five. In eighteen ninety six, Carrie
gave birth to the couple's second child, a daughter named Elsie.
And a son quickly followed in eighteen ninety seven, whom
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they named John. Kipling began telling his eldest daughter, Josephine,
whom he called Effie, versions of his now beloved just
So stories for little children every night before bed, he said,
in the evening there were stories meant to put Effie
to sleep, and you were not allowed to alter those
by one single little word that would be told just so,
or Effie would wake up and put back the missing sentence.
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So at last they came to be like charms, all
three of them. The Whale Tale, the Camel Tale, and
the Rhinoceros Tale. The just So stories are imaginative stories
about how animals began to look and act the way
they do in nature. The titles detail each story. There's
how the whale got his throat and how the camel
got his hump. The enduring popularity of these stories speaks
to the loving care with which Kipling wrote them for
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his children. I keep six honest serving men. They taught
me all I knew. Their names are what and where
and when and how and why and who? The Elephant's
Child nineteen o two. The Kipling's idyllic existence in the
United States ended when Kipling had a public run in
with Carrie's brother, Baby Ballister. Blister struggled with addiction to
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alcohol and money troubles after publicly threatening to blow off
Kipling's head, Balister was arrested and a trial followed, which
drew quite a lot of attention from the press because
of Kipling's popularity as an author. As for his part,
Kipling seemed to mourn the loss of his privacy, ever,
moved his family back to England in an effort to
reclaim it. Were all islands shouting lies to each other
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across seas of misunderstanding. The Light They Failed eighteen ninety one. Unfortunately,
he suffered one of the largest losses of his life.
The Kipling's eldest daughter, Josephine, aged six, succumbed to pneumonia
on March sixth, eighteen ninety nine. Kipling had been ill
at the same time, and at first the family feared
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that they would lose them both. Ever, Kipling survived to
discover that his daughter had not. The world is very lovely,
and it is very horrible, and it doesn't care about
your life or mine or anything else. The Light They
failed eighteen ninety one. When The Justice Stories for Children
was first published in nineteen o two, Kipling illustrated the
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stories himself. The timing of the publication so soon after
the loss of Josephine was particularly poignant. The loss forever
after changed the author. According to those close to him,
the man who had once been described as as a
friend of the world smiled and laughed a little less often.
Kipling's sister Tricks said, he became a sadder and a
harder man. Kipling received the Nobel Prize for Literature in
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nineteen oh seven, and remains the youngest person ever to
have obtained the honor, but his star seemed already to
be fading. He espound imperialistic political ideas and encouraged countries
to pursue imperialistic policies. Kipling wrote the poem The white
Man's Burden, and an effort to encourage the United States
to take a more active role in the Philippines. Take
up the white Man's Burden, Send forth the best you breed, Go,
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bind your sons to exile, to serve your captive's need.
The white Man's Burden eighteen ninety nine. He was also
in support of the Great War World War one encouraged
his son John to serve the conflict. At first, John
failed a medical examination to join the Royal Navy because
of his weak eyesight. He attempted to list two more times,
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it was rejected both times, and then, using his father's connections,
Kipling joined the Irish Guards took part in the bloody
Battle of Lose, the largest British assault of nineteen fifteen.
John Kipling, age eighteen, was assumed to have been blown
apart by shells, and no piece of his corpse was
ever recovered for his family to mourn. Over twenty fifteen,
the Commonwealth Grave Commission announced it had located the grave
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of John Kipling, whose remains been buried in a French cemetery.
If any question why we died, tell them because our
fathers lied. Epithets of War nineteen eighteen. This second last
hit Kipling and his wife incredibly hard. Kipling said he
read the novels of Jane Austen to his wife and
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remaining daughter over and over again in an effort to
shake the grief he felt at John's death. He also
joined the group that would later become the Commonwealth War
Graves Commission in honor of his lost son, Kipling suggested
some of the biblical verses the Commission put on the
stones of the war dead. He also wrote a regimental
history of the Irish Guards, which was published in nineteen
twenty three and has been considered by some to be
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one of the best examples of a regimental history ever pinned.
There were too many almost children, of whom no record remains.
They came out of Warley with the constant renewed drafts,
lived the span of a second lieutenant's life, and were
spent the Irish Guards in the Great War. Nineteen twenty three,
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while morning his lost children in Kipling's health began a
study decline. Kipling suffered from dwadno Ulcler's, which it is
believed eventually killed him at age seventy. The writer's ashes
are interred at Westminster Abbey's Poet's Corner This Forever and
of the remains of Thomas Hardy Charles Dickens, Kipling's only
surviving child, Elsie, married George Bambridge, a diplomat, in nineteen
twenty four. She never had any children, so Kipling's bud
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line ended. She died on April twenty fourth, nineteen seventy six.
Like some celebrities today, Kipling's death was reported ahead of
its time. Reading about it in a magazine, he wrote
to the magazine, I've just read that I died. Don't
forget to delete me from your list of subscribers. Many
of his political viewpoints, notably about imperialism, no long younger
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held sway in the international world as he grew older,
and he did receive much criticism for that. George Orwell
described him as a jingo imperialist who was morally insensitive
and a gutter patriot. His literary career had a meteoric rise,
but then seemed to stagnate, and he often spoke to
friends about the foibles of early fame, like his idyllic
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views of empire. In many ways, Rudyard Kipling seemed to
become history even before his days had passed, especially in
the way that the loss of his children affected him.
But what is left of Rodger Kipling when everything else
is turned to dust are his writings, like perhaps his
most famous poem if Penn in eighteen ninety five, which
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seems to represent his tragic life but exhorts us all
to be the best that we can be, even in
the face of terrible loss. If you can make one
heap of all your winnings, risk it on one turn
of pigeon toss, lose.
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Start again at your beginnings.
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Never say one word about your loss. If you can
force your heart and nerve and sin you to serve
your term long after they are gone, and so hold
on when there is nothing in you except the will
that tells them all. Hold on if you can talk
to crowd to keep your virtue, walk with kings, nor
lose the common touch. If neither foe nor loving friend
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can hurt you, If all men matter to you, but
none too much. If you can fill the everlasting minute
with sixty seconds of distance roun, then yours is the
earth and everything that's in it. And what's more, you'll
be a man, my son.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
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Google search and you'll enjoy what you see. Poet's Corner
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is remarkable all by itself with memorials, but the very
few who actually got buried. There include, as was indicated,
not just Dickens and Chaucer and Tennyson, but in the
end Kipling too, joining this August breed. And in addition
there are memorials for au Jane Austen and Blake the poet,
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and Auden and.
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Lewis Carroll and C. S. Lewis and T. S.
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Eliot and Samuel Taylor Coleridge, and the list goes on
and on. There was something special about the British talent
for literature, poetry, and all else. It may be one
of the great special gifts that the British gave us.
It was a shared and common language, not just the laws,
but the common language. The story of Rudyard Kipling a
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story of loss and tragedy and beauty.
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