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January 9, 2025 27 mins

On this episode of Our American Stories, on January 29, 1774, Benjamin Franklin was called to appear in Britain before a select group of the King's advisors—in an octagonal-shaped room in a Palace called 'the Cockpit'. Though Franklin entered the room as a dutiful servant of the British crown, he left as a budding American revolutionary. This event ultimately pitted Franklin against his son, suggesting that the Revolution was, in no small part, also a civil war. Here to tell the story is renowned Franklin historian Sheila Skemp, author of The Making of a Patriot: Benjamin Franklin at the Cockpit.

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is Lee Habib and this is Our American Stories,
A show where America is the star and the American people.
On January twenty ninth, seventeen seventy four, Benjamin Franklin was
called to appear in Britain before a select group of
the King's advisors in an octagonal shaped room in a

(00:30):
palace known as the Cockpit. Though Franklin entered the room
as a dutiful servant of the British Crown, he left
as a budding American revolutionary, and it was this event
that ultimately pitted Franklin against his own son, suggesting that
the revolution was in no small part a civil war.

(00:51):
Here to tell the story is renowned Franklin historian Sheila Skimp,
author of the Making of a Patriot. Benjamin Franklin at
the Cockpit, Let's take a listen.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Benjamin Franklin was not a provincial man. As a young boy,
he had lived in England for eighteen mostly pleasurable months,
when he was still trying to figure out what he
wanted to do with his life. He returned in seventeen
fifty seven remained in London five more years. This time
he came not as a bewildered boy trying to find

(01:26):
his way in the big city. But as a man
whose intellectual credentials had dazzled men of letters throughout Western Europe.
He'd already conducted his famous kite experiment, becoming known everywhere
as the man who tamed the Lightning. He'd been admitted
to London's prestigious royal society and honor a few Englishmen

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and even fewer Americans were ever able to attain, and
once in England he was wined and dined, and feted
and celebrated everywhere he went. It's not surprising that when
he finally left for home in seventeen sixty two, he
wasn't very happy about it. He might have missed his
wife and daughter, but he promised one London friend. He said,

(02:12):
I will return, and this time I will settle here forever.
He got back home, and he still missed London. He
told more than one person Pennsylvania, even Philadelphia is a
provincial backwater. It just doesn't compare to the big city.

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And so he was delighted when less than two years
after he got back to Philadelphia for the second time,
he returned to England once more. He went there ironically
to try to get the King to turn Pennsylvania into
a royal colony. This at the very time when the

(02:56):
Stamp Act was just going into effect. So the irony there,
to my mind, is rather amazing. Franklin loved England not
just because of the friends he had, not just because
of the honors he received, not just because of the
stimulating conversations he enjoyed there, but because he had devoted

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most of his adult life to the service of king
and country. Just a few examples, He'd helped raise money
for the King's army during the French and Indian War.
He'd used his influence to secure a job as Royal
Governor of New Jersey for his son William. He'd worked

(03:43):
long and hard, and ultimately fruitlessly to make Pennsylvania a
royal colony. He had made excuses over and over and
over again for King and Parliament when the government enacted
the Stamp Act and the Townshend Acts, earning himself enemies

(04:03):
in Pennsylvania. As a result, he steadily sought to become
a member of the King's government to get a more
important position than that post office job. He did all
this and more not just because he was an ambitious man,
though I think he was a very ambitious man, but
because he really and truly believed that Englishmen on both

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sides of the water would benefit from seeing themselves, as
he put it, not as belonging to different communities with
different interests, but as one community with one interest. He
wanted an Anglo American alliance based upon equality that would be,

(04:48):
as he put it, the awe of the world. And
so he was a real English patriot up until almost
the end. As late as seventeen seventy, the year of
the Boston massacre, he was urging the colonists to maintain

(05:09):
a steady loyalty to the king and claimed that George
had the best disposition toward us and has a family
interest in our prosperity. And not surprisingly, he moved in really,
really august circles. He knew personally many of the men

(05:29):
whom political leaders at home were saying, we're trying to
destroy American liberty, and he would say, yeah, a few
of them. Maybe there were some of them that he
did despise, no doubt about that. But he also knew
because he was there, and he knew these people personally
and didn't just know about them from rumors spread across

(05:50):
the Atlantic Ocean. He knew that there were many, many
friends of America in England, and he knew that most
others were not out to destroy colonial liberty. They might
have been misguided, they might have been stubborn. Some of them,
he admitted, were not very bright, but they were not evil. Thus,

(06:15):
even when he was frustrated by government policy, Franklin was
always hopeful. The popular inclination here, he would say, confidently,
is to wish us well and that we may preserve
our liberties. Benjamin Franklin changed his tune after seventeen seventy four.

(06:36):
His humiliation at the Cockpit was a critical encounter for
Benjamin Franklin. He was never again the same.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
And you've been listening to Sheila Skimp, and she's a
renowned Franklin historian. In the book is the Making of
a Patriot Benjamin Franklin at the Cockpit. You're learning a
lot about Franklin here that we were not taught in school.
I didn't know any of this until much later in life.
Having read quite a number of books. We have a
terrific one about Franklin and the battle that he and

(07:08):
his son had called loyal Son, and it's about the
war inside Ben Franklin's own family. So when anyone tells
you Americans have never been more divided, one need only
look at Ben Franklin's home to get the answer to that.
When we come back, we'll find out why. With Sheila
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Speaker 1 (07:56):
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went from being an Anglo file in the end to
what we might call an American file. Let's pick up

(08:20):
where we last left off with historian Sheila Skim.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Franklin entered a tiny room in Whitehall Palace that was
known as the Cockpit on January twenty ninth, seventeen seventy four.
The room was built by Henry the Eighth, and he
used it to stage cockfights, which is why it became
known as the cockpit. Long since that was no longer

(08:45):
the case, the government used it to conduct normal official business,
but the old name stuck. Franklin's appearance physical appearance that
day was not designed to impress. He had a very
old fashioned wig on and wore a simple blue coat
of Manchester velvet. He entered the room, he looked around,

(09:09):
and he realized that all the seats were taken, and
so the sixty eight year old man was forced to
stand as a man young enough to be his son,
harangued and berated him to the delight of an overthrow crowd.
For about an hour, everybody who was anybody was there

(09:32):
to watch Franklin be humiliated. Lord North was there. General
Thomas Gage also managed to make it. Even the stray
scientist or philosopher was squeezed into the room. Most members
of the prestigious Privy Council were also there. Significantly, I

(09:54):
think crucially, Franklin knew most of these people personally. He
had hoped to be one of them. He counted them
among his friends, and so from the beginning this was
personal for him as well as political. Why was he there,

(10:14):
Ostensibly he came to defend a petition from the Massachusetts
legislature asking for the removal of two men from office,
Governor Thomas Hutchinson and Lieutenant Governor Andrew Oliver. Franklin was
there as an agent, which is kind of like a
lobbyist for Massachusetts, and he knew when he walked in

(10:37):
that this petition was going to be rejected. In fact,
he was surprised that he even had to show up,
but it was his job to go through the motions
defend it if he could, and so he was there
in that capacity. Two things made what under any other
circumstances would have been a mere formality into a spectacle

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that captured the attention of everybody in London. First, the
timing could not have been worse. Franklin had been originally
prepared to defend the petition on January eleventh, but when
he found out on January eleventh that Governor Hutchinson had

(11:21):
hired a lawyer to defend him, he thought, well, maybe
I should get a lawyer to defend me too, and
so he asked for a postponement. Unfortunately for him, he
got it, and so instead of defending the petition on
January eleventh, he defended it on January twenty ninth, eighteen days.

(11:43):
Eighteen days meant in this case a lot, because it
turned out that on January twentieth, just nine days before
he appeared at the Cockpit London, received word about what
we now know as the Boston Tea Party. Had he
gone on the original date, January eleventh, he would have

(12:06):
gotten there before news of the Boston Tea Party arrived.
Rightly or wrongly. English leaders were furious at the Boston
Tea Party. To them, this was the last straw. They
had done, from their standpoint, everything that they could to

(12:26):
be conciliatory towards the colonists for ten years, and this
was the thanks that they got. A bunch of Boston
ruffians had thrown private property into the ocean and had
shown that they had no respect for England, its laws
or its lawmakers. They were hurt, they were angry, they

(12:50):
were frustrated. They were out for blood. They were looking
for someone, anyone to blame for the ills that beset
the English Empire. And Benjamin Franklin was a convenient target.
But why Franklin? He clearly had no control over the
men who destroyed the tea. In fact, when he first

(13:12):
heard about it, he was furious and said, why did
they do this? He was not pleased at all, So
why Franklin. Franklin himself was partly to blame, which brings
us to our second reason for what happened in that room.
To understand this, you have to go back a little

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bit and look at some background. Between seventeen sixty eight
and seventeen sixty nine, Thomas Hutchinson and Andrew Oliver had
written occasional letters to a man by the name of
Thomas Weightly. Weighty was a member of Parliament. He was
a supporter of the stamp Act. Both Oliver and Hutchinson

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had been victims of mob violence during the stamp ACKed riots.
Their houses had been destroyed, their most prized possessions had
been ground into the dust. They had barely escaped with
their lives. Three years later, for some reason, they were
still angry, and so in letter after letter to Waitly,

(14:20):
they talked about the mob violence that characterized Boston, and
they insisted over and over again England must clamp down
on the colonies before it was too late, otherwise independence
would be inevitable. Thomas Weighty died in seventeen seventy two,

(14:43):
but the Hutchinson Oliver letters survived, and in the winter
of seventeen seventy two, someone Franklin never told anybody who
historians still don't know who it was. Somebody got possession
of those letters, gave them to Franklin and said do
with them what you will, and Franklin forwarded the letters

(15:09):
to Thomas Kushing, who was Speaker of the House in Massachusetts.
Franklin's explanation for his decision to send the letters back
to Massachusetts has been people just still shake their heads
at it. This is supposed to be a smart guy.

(15:30):
What was he thinking, he said, and he never stopped
saying this. He thought that when people saw these letters
that they would feel the same way that he had.
He said. When he saw them, light dawned, everything suddenly
made sense. Now he knew why King and Parliament were
so determined to destroy colonial liberties, which he just couldn't

(15:53):
figure out. Before Parliament's efforts to tax the colonies, the
government's decision to send redcoats to Boston in seventeen sixty eight,
which led to the Boston massacre, came because people like
Hutchinson and Oliver had intentionally misled London officials lying to them.

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He thought sending these letters would bring England and America
closer together. It was about as wrong a prognostication as
anybody has ever made. Immediately, the Massachusetts legislature drew up
a petition asking the King to remove the governor and

(16:36):
Lieutenant governor from their offices. It was an audacious demand.
I mean, these people served at the discretion of the king.
This was not a democracy. It wasn't going to happen.
But they nevertheless sent this petition to London. And it
was this petition that Franklin was trying to defend at

(16:59):
the Cockpit.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
And you've been listening to renowned Franklin historian Sheila Skimp,
author of the Making of a Patriot, Benjamin Franklin at
the Cockpit, And now you know what the cockpit was
and how it got its name from a cockfighting tradition
long before this meeting.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
That there is.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Franklin in this little room, walks in and it's a
total setup. All these people he'd known, people like Lord North,
General Thomas gage, and there they are not even leaving
him a seat to sit in, and he is going
to take a beatdown. Total humiliation he's about to experience
when we come back more of this remarkable story, the

(17:37):
Making of a Patriot, Benjamin Franklin at the Cockpit. Here
on our American stories, and we continue with our American

(18:10):
stories and the story of the Making of a Patriot.
We're talking about Benjamin Franklin's time at the cockpit, and
there he was. He found himself in seventeen seventy four
in that room with all of British high society and
every aspect of British society, from the military to letters,
to lords and nobles. Let's pick up when we last

(18:31):
left off with Sheila Skimp, author of the Making of
a Patriot.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
And so when he walked into the cockpit, Franklin encountered
the perfect storm. The King's men were furious about the
tea party. They were furious about Franklin's use of the
Hutchinson Oliver letters. They had put two and two together
and they had come to the conclusion that it was

(18:56):
Franklin's fault that the relationship between Massachuset and England was
so bad he was to blame for the petition. He
was even to blame for the Boston Tea Party. Still,
even though he knew that people were mad, Franklin was
not ready for what happened to him in the cockpit.

(19:18):
One man stood up to defend Hutchinson and Oliver. His
name was Alexander Wedderburn. He was the Attorney General of
the king. He was known everywhere for his ability to

(19:40):
use words as weapons. He was an orator par excellence,
and he was never in better form. General Gage said
Wedderburn was serious, pathetic, and severe by turns. And it
was the attack on Franklin, not a defense of Hutchinson,

(20:00):
which he hardly even mentioned, that was at the heart
of Wedderburn's performance. Franklin, he said, was the leader of
a secret cabal whose members were determined to destroy the empire.
He was a true incendiary who had intentionally set the
whole province in flame. On and on he went. I've

(20:24):
just picked a few of the worst things, he said.
I mean, it just went on just forever. It seemed like,
I'm sure, especially to Franklin. By any standard, it was
a spectacular performance. The audience loved it. They hooted, they
applauded as Wedderburn and one man's words poured forth such
a torrent of virulent abuse on doctor Franklin as no

(20:46):
man had ever endured before. And through it all Franklin
stood said nothing, didn't even allow his facial expression to change.
He thought that a common criminal would not have been
subject to the treatment he received at the cockpit. Finally

(21:07):
it was over, Wedderburn sat down. He invited his victim
to respond. Franklin simply said, I do not choose to
be examined, and there was nothing more to say, and
he walked out of the room. And as he walked out,
he looked at everybody gathered around Wedderburn, congratulating him on

(21:29):
his brilliant performance, shaking his hand, slapping him on the back.
No one in that room seemed to understand what they
had just done. They had turned a loyal English subject
into a patriot in less than an hour's time. In
short order, the Privy Council rejected the Massachusetts petition, which

(21:53):
they could have and should have done without any of
this grand descilay. Two days later, Franklin was fired from
his position as the King's Deputy Postmaster of the American colonies,
a position he'd had for two decades on his own.
He resigned his position as Massachusetts Agent, knowing full well

(22:18):
that whatever use he had been to the colony was
at an end. He was now a private man, with
no one to serve, no job to do. It's impossible
to overstate the significance of Franklin's humiliation at the cockpit.
It was devastating. He was a proud and loyal empire man,

(22:45):
and now he was a committed patriot. At the time,
he tried to pretend that it didn't matter. He said,
I've not lost a single friend as a result of this.
People are coming to my rooms every day and telling
me that they still support me and that they're indignant
at the unworthy treatment that I received. He told his

(23:06):
sister Jane that he was proud that he had lost
his post office job. This was a badge of honor.
He said that he never tried to defend himself, but
just kept a cool, sullen silence. That wasn't exactly true.
After the cockpit, Franklin's mood darkened perceptibly. His vision changed

(23:28):
in a variety of ways. Let me just give you
a couple of quick examples kind of the before and
after picture before the cockpit. He laughed when he heard
people like Samuel Adams and Patrick Henry say that the
King and his ministers were the masterminds of an insidious
plot to destroy colonial liberty. He said, this is paranoid.

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I know these people. This is not true. They respect us,
they love our liberties. Again, they make them a mistake
now and then, but this does not mean evil intention.
After January of seventeen seventy four, Franklin said, the men
who hold the reins of power in England look at

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Americans with total disdain. If somebody like Wedderburn could sneer
at him, a world renowned scientist, a man of letters,
a talented man, what must he think of ordinary Americans?

(24:36):
If ministers who had once told him that they thought
he deserved a position in the government were laughing uproariously
at Wetterman's jibes, how could Franklin cling to the belief
that Englishmen would ever join the colonies in this pan
empirical empire that would be the envy of the world.

(25:00):
I don't think it's an accident that on the day
he signed the Franco American Treaty of Alliance in seventeen
seventy eight. He put on that same suit of Manchester
velvet to sign the peace treaty. It was like he
was saying, you got me, then, I've got you now.

(25:21):
So America would have survived without Benjamin Franklin, as much
as I think he would hate to think that that
was the case. But I don't think Franklin would have
done so well without America. He made mistake after mistake
after mistake, and somehow ended up landing on his feet.

(25:43):
And he landed on his feet because he made one
decision that allowed most observers then and especially now to
forget all the other mistakes he ever made. He embraced independence.
His poor son, William was a loyalist and was on

(26:05):
the losing side. And who but me has ever heard
of William Franklin. But Benjamin Franklin made the right choice
in doing this. He has gone down in history as
one of the most valuable members of the new nation's
founding generation. And it was the cockpit that made him

(26:29):
make that decision when and how he did.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
And a terrific job on the editing and production by
our own Greg Hengler, and a special thanks to Sheila Skimp,
author of the Making of a Patriot Benjamin Franklin at
the Cockpit, And we learned look he was entering the cockpit.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
It was a perfect storm.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
I do not choose to be examined, were Franklin's words after.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
The beatdown he experienced.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
And then of course he turns and becomes what would
become a major part of our revolution and one of
our founding fathers.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
But I love what Kemp said.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
America could have survived without Franklin, no doubt. Franklin could
not have survived without America. The story of the Making
of a Patriot Benjamin Franklin at the Cockpit.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
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